When Seattle Mayor Greg Nickels decided to start signing up US cities in the fight against global warming, I don’t think he ever though he’d be this successful:
Mayor Greg Nickels welcomed 52 more cities to Seattle’s climate protection campaign bringing the total to 592 as an influential organization of mayors unanimously supported a national goal of reducing climate pollution 80 percent by 2050.
Five hundred and ninety-two? To think, this whole thing started a few years ago.
“It’s time for the federal government to follow the lead of mayors across this country and begin taking action to address the growing threat of global warming,” Nickels said. “Everyone has a role to play in saving our planet from the effects of climate change. Cities have rolled up their sleeves and now it is time for the federal government to do the same.”
The 52 cities joining the U.S. Mayors Climate Protection Agreement come from just two states, Florida and Iowa. The announcement means 596 cities across America have now joined the Seattle-led effort to cut greenhouse gas pollution.
While conservatives extol the virtues of “local control”, that creed goes out the door when it comes to global warming. Righties mocked Nickels for his DIY approach, saying it wouldn’t add up to much. Hundreds of cities later, their apologies aren’t forthcoming. (I’m sure their congratulatory emails are just stuck in the “tubes”)
Meanwhile, the full U.S. Conference of Mayors today endorsed a resolution sponsored by Nickels that calls on federal leaders to approve aggressive climate pollution reductions as part of an ambitious, five-point climate-protection plan.
Co-sponsored by the mayors of Los Angeles, San Francisco, Chicago, Philadelphia, Miami and 24 other cities, Nickels’ resolution calls on the 110th Congress and the White House to set a national greenhouse gas reduction target of 80 percent below 1990 levels by 2050, a threshold most scientists say is necessary to stabilize the climate. Coupled with the target is a call for a flexible national cap and trade system and incentives to reward energy conservation and development of clean energy technologies.
The conventional wisdom on global warming is that the American people aren’t ready to makes the changes necessary. With so many mayors signing on to needed legislation, why is Congress so gutless? Folks are ready for the kind of inventive free-market solutions to global warming. It’s just the guy in the White House who doesn’t get it.
Just one problem… global warming is a myth.
I’m still waiting for someone to PROVE that current temperatures are outside historical norms.
And can any of you admit that maybe THE FUCKING SUN has an influence?
Gullible fucking dumshits…
Leveling the field? WTF?
C’mon… it’s just good ol’ fashioned gummint greed.
seattletimesDOTnwsourceDOTcom/html/editorialsopinion/2003765073_interneted28DOThtml
Are you guys ever ashamed of the fucking idiots that run this state?
1 Mark, let’s talk about it when you’re shopping for pontoons for your SUV.
lol ArtFart
my benz wouldn’t float even with the pontoons…
damn thing weighs about 3800lbs.. as much as both of MTR’s trucks combined… fortunately it’s a greasecar, and gets about 25mpg on the freeway+ the added benefit of no war necessary to fill the tank…
I’m not too big on getting a pruis or a bug though, although either of those would float… =) so no global warming for me…
BTW, MTR: Come back and play after you’ve renounced your membership to the flat earth society. There are adults talking here… run along now.
Well speaking of “stopping global warming”
Let’s make the leap of faith that humans have a disproportionate effect on global temperatures. And we can, thru whatever moonbat initiatives “curb” global warming..
What temperature do we want? I mean, which is the right one? If we as a species have such a dramatic effect on the “rise” in temperature, and can “curb” or “reverse” the effects, who decides what temperature?
hmmmmmm?
Now, ArtFart. Mr. Redneck is just trying to educate us poor, unenlightened liberals about the conspiracy among the vast majority of the world’s climatologists, ecologists, geologists, geophysicists, glaciologists, hydrologists, oceanographers, meterologists, volcanologists, etc…
He wants to give us the benefit of his vast knowledge in all of the earth sciences. I’m certain that he’ll be telling us all about his multiple degrees in all of those fields, together with the many professional papers he’s published. Certainly, all of those lesser specialists quake at the very mention of his name.
Any time now, he’ll tell us about the meeting held in the basement of a Federal Way house, where all of those supposed “experts” got together and decided on a common theme for all of their published work, so that they could con us poor, beleagered liberals into believing that they actually understood their various disciplines.
Or, maybe that meeting was just Mr. Redneck, a few of his buddies and several cases of Old Milwaukee.
Just one problem… global warming is a myth.
Mark, I hate to be the one to burst your bubble here, but when you lost your baby teeth and put them under the pillow, it was your mother that put the quarter there, not the tooth fairy.
right stuff,
will you quit with the straw man… I have hayfever.
Is Nickels gonna take mass transit to work or ride a bike?
Whether or not global warming is a myth, it still behooves us all to take as good a care of our environment as possible and practical. If this means we end up paying higher taxes or have to live with some inconveniences, then I don’t have any problems with that so long as there is real protection involved and not just some snazzy grandstanding.
We really don’t understand global climate as well as we’d like, and in the absence of a firm and comprehensive knowledge on the subject, caution is in order. There are not enough humans living on the planet that our actions can affect things on a very large scale.
So, for me, no one has to conclusively prove that something like global warming exists. It merely needs to be shown that there is a very real likelihood that our actions *can* affect changes on a global level. I, personally, believe that to be the case.
We can debate how we should go about protecting and being a good steward to our environemnt, but not the need to do so, IMO. The “how” is debatable, but the need is not, and we do not have the luxury to wait until, like the Titanic, it is already too late to do anything to save ourselves because of previous mistakes or inaction (the Titanic was the best analogy I could come up with on the fly, sorry).
@10 Er…
Should read: There are enough humans living on the planet that our actions can affect things on a very large scale.
“Whether or not global warming is a myth, it still behooves us all to take as good a care of our environment as possible and practical.”
here here…
Oh, and Mr. Stuff?
Offhand, I’d probably put the “right” temperature as that which does not flood hundreds of thousands of square miles of land that people are currently living on, and does not disrupt long-standing weather patterns that millions of people rely on for agricultural purposes.
Of course, that’s just me. I’m sure there are real estate speculators around Indio, CA that might disagree, as even a 7 meter rise in sea level gives them waterfront property on the Gulf of California.
Of course, the Bangladeshis had better learn how to swim.
Uh… just one problem. Sea levels are NOT rising.
Sorry to bust your myth…
inventive free-market solutions
WILL, A LINK IS NEEDED HERE TO BACK THIS UP.
14 – YOU STILL WAITING FOR THAT CHI-SQUARED BULLSHIT?
JUST PAY YOUR FUCKING GAMBLING DEBT, WELSHER.
If this means we end up paying higher taxes or have to live with some inconveniences,
EUROPE AND JAPAN HAVE TAKEN THE HIGHER TAX ROUTE AS FAR AS IT CAN GO I THINK. THEY COULD SLAP CARBON TAXES ON TOP OF THEIR ALREADY VERY HIGH FUEL TAXES AND SOMEHOW PEOPLE WOULD FIND A WAY TO DUMP CARBON IN THE AIR.
GOVERNMENTS HAVE TO FOCUS ON SWAPPING OUT CARBON INTENSIVE TECHNOLOGIES. THE FEEBATE IS ONE APPROACH TO DOING THAT. LEVYING A FEE ON AN SUV AND THEN REBATING THAT FEE TO A LIGHTWEIGHT PLUG-IN HYBRID OR ELECTRIC VEHICLE IS AN EXAMPLE.
EVERY AMERICAN ON AVERAGE DUMPS 42,500 LBS OF CARBON INTO THE AIR. THE CHALLENGE IS TO REDUCE THAT TO A MUCH SMALLER FRACTION THAT IS SUSTAINABLE.
Free market? Hmmm…might be nice to try it some time.
The problem is that we’ve never had one, at least not in the lifetime of anyone of us here. What we may have had at one time is a semi-socialist regulated economy which put some limits on excesses of greed.
What we have now is more a system of mandates and franchises doled out by government to the highest bidder.
I’m one of those who agree that at least in the short term and in local contexts, the results of climate change might not be entirely unpleasant or negative. Some warming Canada and the northern tier of the United States might be a tremendous boon to agriculture. Some warming of waters at higher latitudes could possibly make them more hospitible to fish like mahi-mahi and kingfish. The critters already there may or may not get by, but I learned that they catch quite a bit of halibut off southern California as it is. Hell, the value of our timeshare at Kala Point might go up if there’s more comfortable swimming weather in early spring and late fall.
At the same time, I wonder what Bush thinks about what’s happening right now to some of his erstwhile neighbors in Texas. (Assuming he thinks at all…)
the results of climate change might not be entirely unpleasant or negative
WHOA PARTNER! GOOD FOR US OR (NOT AS BAD) SURE. BUT HOW ABOUT THE REST OF THE WORLD? HOW ABOUT THE TROPICS? AFRICA?
YES, THEY ARE MOST LIKELY TO TAKE THE BRUNT.
AND AS WE SAW WITH 9/11, NOT CARING MAY LEAD TO BAD CONSEQUENCES.
JESUS H. CHRIST, YOS, STOP YELLING.
it’s stylin’ but it’s stupid stylin’!
I love this new argument that Who’s to say what the right temperature is? That’s the one floated (pun intended)by the director of NASA who apparently doesn’t believe in science. Ouch! Good thing he wasn’t in charge when we were trying to get to the moon.
I’d say the right temperature would be one not influenced by 6 Billion of us.
@1 I’ll listen to the world’s scientists before I’ll take the word of a fucking bet welsher. Pay up or get out! You’re a squatter here.
21 IS A TROLL. IF I DIDN’T KNOW BETTER I’D THINK IT’S TYPICALNAZI PLAYING LEFTY.
NICE TRY LOSER.
Redneck: Unfuck yourself and pay your debt!
@6 Old Milwaukee is too good for Redneck. He drinks some off-brand of Ozark piss water.
Redneck drinks reprocessed hillbilly urine.
PAY YOUR FUCKING GAMBLING DEBT MARK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
@11 Glad you clarified that.
Whatever ambiguity may exist as to the existence, causes, and consequences of global warming this much is clear: Redneck owes Goldy $100 that is MORE THAN 1 YEAR PAST DUE!!!
@14 Where did you get that bullshit from?
Personally I think climate change is great! You stupid humans are going to open up the poles to colonization by rabbits before you exterminate your species! Good fucking riddance to humans, more room for rabbits! Rabbits will rule the earth, and I’ll be their king!!
mmmmm… rabbit stew…
glad i have my cwp, and a penchant for urban hunting.
run roger, run!
YOS @ 23
I’m not a troll, fuck you. Goldy, can go ahead and ban me if he thinks I’m a troll.
I’m just sick of your all caps yelling “it’s just my style” bullshit. Why don’t you plug your ears and hum real loud.
By way of example, see Roger Rabbit’s posts in the mid-20s? CAPS = YELLING!!!! Cut it the fuck out, twit!
Okay, enough of the ad hominem… sorry about that.
The only trouble I have with Mayor McCheese and his global warming leadership is his staunch refusal to even try riding his bike to work. I mean I know it’s insanely dangerous, but maybe he needs the crap scared out of him on the mean streets of the Seattle waterfront a few times a year.
Is Nickels going to sell his three tax payer paid cars and get on the bus finally? Are the council’s going to give up their paid parking spots and car allowances finally?
Hypocrits!
@32 Run for what? I’m a king, not a politician. We’re not going to hold any fucking election to decide who will be king of the rabbits, and that’s not negotiable.
@33 Ban? What are you talking about? Goldy doesn’t ban anyone, not even trolls. You’re confusing him with someone else; this isn’t Stefan’s pathetic little blog.
As we appear to have some new trolls here, let me reiterate the ad hoc HA posting rules:
1. This is a liberal blog.
2. Anyone can post here.
3. There is no censorship.
4. As liberals, our mission is to verbally kick the living shit out of America-hating, Constitution-shredding, pigfucking fascist trolls!
5. No mercy for wingnuts.
6. Our terms are unconditional surrender; there will be trials.
7. klake is a nazi.
33 Just for the love of God, spare us all the sight of Nickles wearing Spandex!
Aside from that, the “why-doesn’t-the-mayor-ride-the-bus” and “Al-Gore’s-house-is-too-big” arguments are pure irrelevant trollfuck bullshit. If all leadership has to be by example, Saint King Dumbfuck sure has no damned business sending other people off to war, does he?
Nah, I’m a single issue voter. If it’s bad for cycling it’s bad for the world. Greg should ride.
23
You new around here? He does that to make fun of YO, a wingnut who can’t even spell his own name right, who always posts in all caps. Hence the name, YOS LIB BRO.
However I’m afraid the act got old rather quickly.
38
It is said that out of respect for their lady, the good people of Coventry went indoors when she rode naked through the streets of the city.
In some versions of the story she is said to have done this to pay off a bet. Too bad we can’t enforce payments like that anymore.
Anyway, if you’re going to make Nichols ride through the streets, please warn us ahead of time so we can stay indoors. And it won’t necessarily be out of respect.
Okay, enough of the ad hominem… sorry about that.
BY ALL MEANS CONTINUE. WHY FIGHT AGAINST YOUR RIGHT-WING NATURE?
Hey, technically, if Greg rides in a city-owned vehicle, he is using public transit.
Yer Killing Me:
Yos Lib Bro’s act got tiresome November 10, 2006 in the evening when he was posting as Clueless, November 10, 2006 in the morning. In fact he’s still clueless so I call him Cluelessman!
Poster Child: I know you are a Moonbat! who likes bikes.
http://www.horsesass.org/?p=3031
Cluelessman is 100% ASS (always LHAO) and has no memory. You have to excuse him. He’s also 100% DICKHEAD! Yeah, being a Moonbat! you can be greater than 100% IDIOT.
http://www.horsesass.org/?p=1271#comment-183682 – Proves Poster Child is a ‘Bat!
I wonder why Cluelessman didn’t post his “spider” results of Poster Child? It was eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeasy to find Cluelesslam
Would have proved him 100% IDIOT… What you say? When he was Clueless he was 100% IDIOT!
Cluelessman: A LEGEND IN HIS OWN MIND.
Ooops… my caps lock must have stayed down too long.
BTW, Since Puddy believes in global warming (predicted in the Bible), maybe these Moonbat! mayors are reading the Good Book?
Naaaaaah, it’s grandstanding…
Poster Child you have to excuse Pelletman@36. He swings with the wind and there is a lot on the left side of ASSes!
Since he’s a retired “rabbit” lawyer his brain is microsized without much retention power!
I love how Moonbat!s turn on each other. If you are not a RABIT DOG, you have to be a Republican. I call Poster child a member of the Progressive NEW Bike Riding Wing of the Moonbat! Party!
RABID DOG. I have Pelletman on my mind!
PUDDYSTUPID: POSTER CHILD IS A RIGHT WING RABID DOG POSING AS A LEFTY – THE WORST KIND OF TROLL.
EXCEPT FOR YOU OF COURSE.