Proof that evolution is no longer producing an improved human species. From Washington to GW in just over 200 years–at this rate, in another 50 years or so, we’ll be looking to feudal lords as our political leaders.
Smirky McFlightsuit has been reading about other Presidents and is so delusional that he probably thinks his legacy can/will be be resurrected after his term expires.
He has spoken of Truman and others, and probably REALLY thinks he goes down in history as something OTHER than the absolute worst.
Proof that evolution is no longer producing an improved human species. From Washington to GW in just over 200 years–at this rate, in another 50 years or so, we’ll be looking to feudal lords as our political leaders.
More like some inbred human equivalent of a spider monkey (but with the proper aristocratic bloodlines, of course).
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GBSspews:
@ 4:
Damn! You beat me to the punch.
GOP = al Qaeda sympathizers.
Conservatives/Republicans = terrorists who hate America and want to undo the constitution.
Why do Bush supporters hate America like the terrorists do?
Now that I think about it, I’m glad they’re leaving Gitmo open. Apparently, we’ll need the extra room for the Republicans that’ll be getting waterboarded there.
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GBSspews:
@ 2 & 5:
So, uhh, is this the human/animal hybrids that Bush was talking about in his SOTU address a couple of years ago?
So, uhh, is this the human/animal hybrids that Bush was talking about in his SOTU address a couple of years ago?
I was thinking more along the lines of ‘We are DEVO! Are we not men?’ but maybe you are on to something. Maybe there is a secret lab somewhere, funded by Scaife, looking for a way to produce the perfect puppet president. GWB was the beta version…..
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Davidspews:
Well happily for end timers and far right nutjobs, Bushikins snuck some provisions into last October’s Defense Appropriations bill that will make it much easier to declare the country under Martial Law.
Unfortunately for them, some nasty congresspeople are sponsoring a bi-partisan bill to repeal those provisions.
A Pakistani woman politician was shot by an Islamo-nutcase because she refused to wear the veil.
Isn’t Islam just the most peachy-keeno religion around? Doesn’t it make ya want to convert?
There’s somthing fundamentally wrong with Islam. The only problem is that it’s up to the followers of Islam to change it, and I don’t think they’re up to the task.
Don’t hold your breath waiting for a change.
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proud leftistspews:
Lib
No religion should be defined by its fringes. You will recall that sad episode in Christian history known as The Crusades. Not that long after that episode, in Moorish Spain, Islamic University of Salamanca scholars invited the best Christian and Jewish scholars to join them in the pursuit of academic truth, thereby creating what may have been the finest scholarly institution in the world at the time. That certainly seems like a world away, but it suggests possibilities.
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GBSspews:
@ 12:
I know how you feel! I felt the same way when domestic terrorists assassinate doctors at abortion clinics, or when they try to blow up a Planned Parenthood office all in the name of Jesus Christ.
There’s something fundamentally wrong with religious zealots. The only problem is that it’s up to the followers of a particular religion to change its fringe members. And I don’t think the Rev. Haggard, Jerry Falwell types are up to the task.
What do you think?
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Libertarianspews:
Sure, Christians were nasty people, too, but I think they got over the idea of blowing someone’s brains out over the dress code.
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GBSspews:
@ 9:
Geeezuss, if ‘W’ is the beta version they ought to back to the drawing boards and start all over! That test beta has way, WAY, WAAAY too many flaws in it even to be a sock puppet president!
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ArtFartspews:
We’ve come a long way in 230 years, huh?
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YOS LIB BROspews:
IT’S SO SIMPLE. TERRORISTS LOVE REPUBLICANS BECAUSE THE PHONY WAR ON TERRA IS IN REALITY “A WAR TO CREATE MORE TERRORISTS”.
WHY SHOULDN’T THE TERRORISTS THROW SOME MONEY TO THE RNC? THE RNC HAS DONE MORE TO RECRUIT MORE TERRAISTS THAN OSAMA COULD EVER HOPE FOR.
“Sure, Christians were nasty people, too, but I think they got over the idea of blowing someone’s brains out over the dress code.”
This seems like one I should take, as I’m both a Christian and old enough to remember “God’s law” being used as a reason to sent attack dogs after children and hang people for talking to others of the wrong color.
Just as the vast majority of Christians deplored the actions of the few, to the point where Christians of all colors marched in protest, the vast majority of Muslims deplore the actions of the few.
In many of the Muslim countries the government is held hostage to the most radical fringes of their religion. Something like what our most radical fringes would like to do here. It is only the strict separation doctrine that stops this from happening, and is why most Christian denominations support that doctrine.
Government makes a lousy church, but churches make pretty lousy governments as well.
I’ve actually walked the streets of a number of Muslim countries. In most of them, I felt at least as safe as I do walking through any American city, and certainly safer than I would have walking through many of the Southern cities during my youth.
It isn’t the religion. It is those few people out on the fringes of the religion. Unfortunately, our policies (and the United States is seen by the Muslim world as a Christian nation) has emboldened and strengthened those fringes in the Muslim countries.
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Libertarianspews:
This seems like one I should take, as I’m both a Christian and old enough to remember “God’s law” being used as a reason to sent attack dogs after children and hang people for talking to others of the wrong color.
You know John, you kinda full of yourself.
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Libertarianspews:
The reason I call attention to these un-random acts of violence is that Islam is getting worse, not better. This religion needs reform, desperately!
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GBSspews:
@ 21:
Reallllly Libertarian?
Tell us; what specific personal knowledge of Islam do you have?
When you say Islam is getting worse not better can you quantify that with dates, statistics and facts? Or are you generalizing an entire religion based on the rhetoric of others?
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proud leftistspews:
21
“Islam is getting worse, not better.”
The whole religion is getting worse? What is getting worse, the centuries-old doctrine? Has the Koran taken a turn for the worse, maybe someone’s added some new verses? C’mon, Lib, you’re usually a little more careful with your assertions. The problem is that Islamic fundamentalists have become more prominent and more brazen. So have Christian and Jewish fundamentalists, it seems. Religions don’t get worse; sometimes, religious practitioners become more extreme. Fundamentalism, in all its stripes, often spreads in times of insecurity and uncertainty. We seem to be in such a period now.
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Libertarianspews:
OK, GSB, I take it back – Islam is getting better. That execution for the dress code violation was really designed to show us Islam’s progress towards peace and understanding. Chopping off Daniel Pearl’s head was just offering the West an olive branch. And the Taliban shooting women in a soccer field before mid-day prayers? Well, that’s just exercising civic responsibility.
Yeah, right…
Islam is being dominated by a bunch of crazy religious zealots. It won’t improve unless the good people of Islam can work up the courage to break the fanatics’ strangle hold on the religion. The US and others cannot change what is fundamentally wrong with this faith.
I’ve been to Turkey, Pakistan, Egypt, the Sudan, and Oman, BTW. I’ve had lots of contact with followers of Islam, than you very much.
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ArtFartspews:
20 Better’n being full of shit.
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ArtFartspews:
When you get right down to it, the excesses of the extreme fringes of most religions have been deplorable, and regrettably don’t seem to be going away.
Committing atrocities in the name of God (whichever name you want to use) is the ultimate blasphemy.
I looked up the story (correct me if I got the wrong one) and it appears that this particular nutcase (no argument from me on that account) was opposed to women in government. The “dress code” was not the issue.
And while I cannot find recorded instances of women being killed in this country for being active in politics, I do have a couple of black friends that might find this story altogether too familiar.
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rhp6033spews:
JB at 19 said: “Government makes a lousy church, but churches make pretty lousy governments as well.”
Thanks, John. I’ll have to remember that one. It rather nicely summarizes what I usually take several paragraphs to try to explain.
I keep running into people who think that all the U.S. problems would be better if the Bible were taught in public schools. Yet no one has ever been able to explain to me how public school teachers could do better at teaching the Bible than they do math. Nor do they understand that it is Christianity itself which is endangered when it becomes too closely tied to government.
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proud leftistspews:
rhp @29
My (retired) Lutheran minister father still tells me that separation of church and state protects the church from the state. As Martin Luther would have said, “this is most certainly true.”
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GBSspews:
Lib @ 24:
Ahhhh, nothing quite sharpens the ol’ debate more than questions with specificity to them, does it?
It’s obvious by your comment that you’re well traveled in countries where Islam is the prevalent religion. In fact, you said you had “lots of contact with followers of Islam.”
That being the case, would you characterize all of the followers of Islam that you met as brutal killers as you described?
Or, would you say only 90% of them were killers?
Perhaps only half of them?
25%?
10%?
Did you meet even one follower of Islam that you know for a fact was a brutal murderer throughout your well traveled experience through the Middle East?
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marie2spews:
Of course Malissa is the better actor. Just about anyone would be doing a better job than Bush right now. We need someone to lead us properly and solve the issues that really matter to us. If President Bush or any other president really wants to protect our country from future terrorists, he or she should combat global poverty which is at the root of the problem. We don’t need to be in a war that benefits the businesses of Americans. We need to be helping the rest of the world in order to help ourselves which would really benefit the economy. We could actually be doing businesses with the past “poor” countries of this world.
Particle Man spews:
Malissa is the better actor.
proud leftist spews:
Proof that evolution is no longer producing an improved human species. From Washington to GW in just over 200 years–at this rate, in another 50 years or so, we’ll be looking to feudal lords as our political leaders.
Jim spews:
Smirky McFlightsuit has been reading about other Presidents and is so delusional that he probably thinks his legacy can/will be be resurrected after his term expires.
He has spoken of Truman and others, and probably REALLY thinks he goes down in history as something OTHER than the absolute worst.
I almost feel sorry for the poor bastard.
RightEqualsStupid spews:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17241633/
Another Publican terrorist caught.
Tlazolteotl spews:
Proof that evolution is no longer producing an improved human species. From Washington to GW in just over 200 years–at this rate, in another 50 years or so, we’ll be looking to feudal lords as our political leaders.
More like some inbred human equivalent of a spider monkey (but with the proper aristocratic bloodlines, of course).
GBS spews:
@ 4:
Damn! You beat me to the punch.
GOP = al Qaeda sympathizers.
Conservatives/Republicans = terrorists who hate America and want to undo the constitution.
Why do Bush supporters hate America like the terrorists do?
Now that I think about it, I’m glad they’re leaving Gitmo open. Apparently, we’ll need the extra room for the Republicans that’ll be getting waterboarded there.
GBS spews:
@ 2 & 5:
So, uhh, is this the human/animal hybrids that Bush was talking about in his SOTU address a couple of years ago?
Sawyer spews:
Worst post ever.
Tlazolteotl spews:
So, uhh, is this the human/animal hybrids that Bush was talking about in his SOTU address a couple of years ago?
I was thinking more along the lines of ‘We are DEVO! Are we not men?’ but maybe you are on to something. Maybe there is a secret lab somewhere, funded by Scaife, looking for a way to produce the perfect puppet president. GWB was the beta version…..
David spews:
Well happily for end timers and far right nutjobs, Bushikins snuck some provisions into last October’s Defense Appropriations bill that will make it much easier to declare the country under Martial Law.
Unfortunately for them, some nasty congresspeople are sponsoring a bi-partisan bill to repeal those provisions.
Read about it here
YOS LIB BRO spews:
TERRORISTS LOVE REPUBLICANS!!!
LMAO!!!!
Libertarian spews:
A Pakistani woman politician was shot by an Islamo-nutcase because she refused to wear the veil.
Isn’t Islam just the most peachy-keeno religion around? Doesn’t it make ya want to convert?
There’s somthing fundamentally wrong with Islam. The only problem is that it’s up to the followers of Islam to change it, and I don’t think they’re up to the task.
Don’t hold your breath waiting for a change.
proud leftist spews:
Lib
No religion should be defined by its fringes. You will recall that sad episode in Christian history known as The Crusades. Not that long after that episode, in Moorish Spain, Islamic University of Salamanca scholars invited the best Christian and Jewish scholars to join them in the pursuit of academic truth, thereby creating what may have been the finest scholarly institution in the world at the time. That certainly seems like a world away, but it suggests possibilities.
GBS spews:
@ 12:
I know how you feel! I felt the same way when domestic terrorists assassinate doctors at abortion clinics, or when they try to blow up a Planned Parenthood office all in the name of Jesus Christ.
There’s something fundamentally wrong with religious zealots. The only problem is that it’s up to the followers of a particular religion to change its fringe members. And I don’t think the Rev. Haggard, Jerry Falwell types are up to the task.
What do you think?
Libertarian spews:
Sure, Christians were nasty people, too, but I think they got over the idea of blowing someone’s brains out over the dress code.
GBS spews:
@ 9:
Geeezuss, if ‘W’ is the beta version they ought to back to the drawing boards and start all over! That test beta has way, WAY, WAAAY too many flaws in it even to be a sock puppet president!
ArtFart spews:
We’ve come a long way in 230 years, huh?
YOS LIB BRO spews:
IT’S SO SIMPLE. TERRORISTS LOVE REPUBLICANS BECAUSE THE PHONY WAR ON TERRA IS IN REALITY “A WAR TO CREATE MORE TERRORISTS”.
WHY SHOULDN’T THE TERRORISTS THROW SOME MONEY TO THE RNC? THE RNC HAS DONE MORE TO RECRUIT MORE TERRAISTS THAN OSAMA COULD EVER HOPE FOR.
BUT REALITY NEVER MEANT MUCH TO A WINGNUT.
John Barelli spews:
This seems like one I should take, as I’m both a Christian and old enough to remember “God’s law” being used as a reason to sent attack dogs after children and hang people for talking to others of the wrong color.
Just as the vast majority of Christians deplored the actions of the few, to the point where Christians of all colors marched in protest, the vast majority of Muslims deplore the actions of the few.
In many of the Muslim countries the government is held hostage to the most radical fringes of their religion. Something like what our most radical fringes would like to do here. It is only the strict separation doctrine that stops this from happening, and is why most Christian denominations support that doctrine.
Government makes a lousy church, but churches make pretty lousy governments as well.
I’ve actually walked the streets of a number of Muslim countries. In most of them, I felt at least as safe as I do walking through any American city, and certainly safer than I would have walking through many of the Southern cities during my youth.
It isn’t the religion. It is those few people out on the fringes of the religion. Unfortunately, our policies (and the United States is seen by the Muslim world as a Christian nation) has emboldened and strengthened those fringes in the Muslim countries.
Libertarian spews:
This seems like one I should take, as I’m both a Christian and old enough to remember “God’s law” being used as a reason to sent attack dogs after children and hang people for talking to others of the wrong color.
You know John, you kinda full of yourself.
Libertarian spews:
The reason I call attention to these un-random acts of violence is that Islam is getting worse, not better. This religion needs reform, desperately!
GBS spews:
@ 21:
Reallllly Libertarian?
Tell us; what specific personal knowledge of Islam do you have?
When you say Islam is getting worse not better can you quantify that with dates, statistics and facts? Or are you generalizing an entire religion based on the rhetoric of others?
proud leftist spews:
21
“Islam is getting worse, not better.”
The whole religion is getting worse? What is getting worse, the centuries-old doctrine? Has the Koran taken a turn for the worse, maybe someone’s added some new verses? C’mon, Lib, you’re usually a little more careful with your assertions. The problem is that Islamic fundamentalists have become more prominent and more brazen. So have Christian and Jewish fundamentalists, it seems. Religions don’t get worse; sometimes, religious practitioners become more extreme. Fundamentalism, in all its stripes, often spreads in times of insecurity and uncertainty. We seem to be in such a period now.
Libertarian spews:
OK, GSB, I take it back – Islam is getting better. That execution for the dress code violation was really designed to show us Islam’s progress towards peace and understanding. Chopping off Daniel Pearl’s head was just offering the West an olive branch. And the Taliban shooting women in a soccer field before mid-day prayers? Well, that’s just exercising civic responsibility.
Yeah, right…
Islam is being dominated by a bunch of crazy religious zealots. It won’t improve unless the good people of Islam can work up the courage to break the fanatics’ strangle hold on the religion. The US and others cannot change what is fundamentally wrong with this faith.
I’ve been to Turkey, Pakistan, Egypt, the Sudan, and Oman, BTW. I’ve had lots of contact with followers of Islam, than you very much.
ArtFart spews:
20 Better’n being full of shit.
ArtFart spews:
When you get right down to it, the excesses of the extreme fringes of most religions have been deplorable, and regrettably don’t seem to be going away.
Committing atrocities in the name of God (whichever name you want to use) is the ultimate blasphemy.
John Barelli spews:
That’s about the nicest thing anyone has ever said I was full of (I think).
It’s quite possible that most of those other folks were right, too.
John Barelli spews:
Oh, and Libertarian?
I looked up the story (correct me if I got the wrong one) and it appears that this particular nutcase (no argument from me on that account) was opposed to women in government. The “dress code” was not the issue.
http://www.reuters.com/article.....1020070220
And while I cannot find recorded instances of women being killed in this country for being active in politics, I do have a couple of black friends that might find this story altogether too familiar.
rhp6033 spews:
JB at 19 said: “Government makes a lousy church, but churches make pretty lousy governments as well.”
Thanks, John. I’ll have to remember that one. It rather nicely summarizes what I usually take several paragraphs to try to explain.
I keep running into people who think that all the U.S. problems would be better if the Bible were taught in public schools. Yet no one has ever been able to explain to me how public school teachers could do better at teaching the Bible than they do math. Nor do they understand that it is Christianity itself which is endangered when it becomes too closely tied to government.
proud leftist spews:
rhp @29
My (retired) Lutheran minister father still tells me that separation of church and state protects the church from the state. As Martin Luther would have said, “this is most certainly true.”
GBS spews:
Lib @ 24:
Ahhhh, nothing quite sharpens the ol’ debate more than questions with specificity to them, does it?
It’s obvious by your comment that you’re well traveled in countries where Islam is the prevalent religion. In fact, you said you had “lots of contact with followers of Islam.”
That being the case, would you characterize all of the followers of Islam that you met as brutal killers as you described?
Or, would you say only 90% of them were killers?
Perhaps only half of them?
25%?
10%?
Did you meet even one follower of Islam that you know for a fact was a brutal murderer throughout your well traveled experience through the Middle East?
marie2 spews:
Of course Malissa is the better actor. Just about anyone would be doing a better job than Bush right now. We need someone to lead us properly and solve the issues that really matter to us. If President Bush or any other president really wants to protect our country from future terrorists, he or she should combat global poverty which is at the root of the problem. We don’t need to be in a war that benefits the businesses of Americans. We need to be helping the rest of the world in order to help ourselves which would really benefit the economy. We could actually be doing businesses with the past “poor” countries of this world.