Ah, come on…considering how they’re so full of it…

Who’s the one in the middle?

By the way, anybody have a link to Katherine Harris’ concession speach? That should be a doozy.

Adios, fascist motherfuckers.

By the way, anybody have a link to Katherine Harris’ concession speach? That should be a doozy. Commentby rhp6033— 11/9/06@ 4:26 pm

http://tinyurl.com/yd38pu

So there you have it — Harris lost because of the liberal media!

http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....amp08.html

Another blow to the moronic hypocritical Christian right. There precious Jesus Camp (Home to man-on-man massage lover Haggard) is done.

Man you right wing assholes are certainly having one fucked up week aren’t you?

HE HE!

Righty tax logic 101:

The rich pay most of the taxes so it’s unfair to raise taxes on the rich.

The rich hire expensive tax lawyers and they end up not paying any taxes anyway, so it makes bad sense to raise taxes on the rich, because you’ll just end up paying them yourself.

How can you believe both of those statements, simultaneously? You can only believe it in DUMBLAND — the deep South.

oh ok well were can I get a full count of the total?

16 Yeah…he’s apparently garnered the approval of Pistol Packin’ Pam’s constituents.

well I guess I will have to stop sending hate mail to the P.I. now

:-(

It doesn’t matter how much one grimaces and squints, that’s probably not the way to bring on The Rapture.

We didn’t actually vote Republicans out of office.

We flushed the toilet.

Same thing either way……

what is it about republicans they just can’t seem to stop lieing about anything and everything?

Qustion:

What do you call it when a conservative takes a shit?

Answer:

A lobotomy!!

I thought conservatives were congenially constipated?

Ronald Reagan was a Poon on his mother’s side! Bet you Republicans were unaware of that!!!

Add Sherwood, Reynolds, Pombo, DeWine, Talent to the list!

They got their asses handed to them!

No MORE lying monkeys, sons of bitches giving King George everything he wants.

Their day of reckoning has ARRIVED!

C’mon. Enough with the Poon Puns,harry!

what’s poon? is that a republican teen age girl that has been getting corn holed in the butt for years because she’s trying to save her virginity?

They don’t even know why they hate Pelosi, they just heard she is from San Francisco, and that must mean Gays like her, so we must hate her. Just like Soros and Hilary, they don’t know what to hate about them, they just know they should. (How easy it must be to be a republican, just somebody tell me who to hate.)

That’s why we call them Sheeple.

#2 – Market Down – Reality sets in…..

The market was stagnant for 6 years and now here come all the big expectations and bullshit remarks……Truth2006, grow-up…..Why don’t you go research all the lieing, stealing and cheating that the Republicans know best.

I like it – if the situation hurts a Republican, I like it even better – hope you get fucked in the stock market.

“I like it – if the situation hurts a Republican, I like it even better – hope you get fucked in the stock market.”

I don’t own stocks. Sorry to disappoint you hateful moonbat.

And Speaking of Hateful. You fascist pig….HAIL HITLER!

I was checking out the “Gay old man porn” site advertised above as part of my gay agenda and I swear I saw Stefan in a gay daisy chain .

Harry, I cant remember the original Chinese for ‘poon tang’. I know the GI’s brought it into the slang lexicon at the same time as ‘nooky’ or “Nu Chi”, ‘young woman essence(spirit)’.

Still waiting for one of you nitwits to actually answer my question:
Liberals put forth that by attacking any Muslim country, that was just what Bin Laden wanted and creates more terrorists.
We attacked Afghanistan, a Muslim country. Liberals all claim that was the proper course of action. So liberals are saying they were for playing into Bin Laden’s hands and creating more terrorists?
Commentby Truth2006— 11/9/06@ 6:20 pm
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Libs went after Iraq because the casualties were higher, thus they figure that they can sell opposition to Iraq easier. If the casualty figures were reversed libs would claim that the Iraq invasion was a good idea but that the Afghanistan invasion was causing more terrorists. If we pull out of Iraq the libs will then demand that we pull out the troops from Afghanistan.

But please, keep pursuing your radical revenge agenda. Distracting investigations, dismantling the tools that have allowed Homeland Security to keep AQ from striking us again. Go full steam ahead with ever Bush hating measure you have come up with. Please. Pretty please with sugar in top. Oh and put nuts like Roger Rabbit front and center for all America to see what Democrats looke like. Let hims speak his mind too.
Commentby Truth2006— 11/9/06@ 3:11
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Exactly, Americans need to be reminded how anti-American and kooky the libs are. Too bad the Frenchfuck libs don’t have the guts to practice what they preach and impeach Bush; but moonbats on parade in countless investigations will be almost as good.

‘07 will be a great year for conservatives.

Lemme see now,. . .take yer shoes off, no, now no liquids , no, buy duct tape and saran wrap. Man I feel so much safer with Homeland Stupidity on the job. You don’t get it, but most Americans do. It’s time for the adults to take charge.

Thanks for telling me about 女气, I didn’t know that one!

The lex maniacs at the Oxford English Dictionary say that Poontang is probably French (from putain – prostitute). The first usage is 1929, well before any of the land wars in Asia. Believe what you want.

Commentby phalangefirst— 11/9/06@ 6:52 pm

Hey, our Phalangist buddy is back! I notice that you posted Pravda2006’s question without bothering to post the answer, so I’ll do it for you.

Liberals put forth that by attacking any Muslim country, that was just what Bin Laden wanted and creates more terrorists.

We attacked Afghanistan, a Muslim country. Liberals all claim that was the proper course of action. So liberals are saying they were for playing into Bin Laden’s hands and creating more terrorists?

Commentby Pravda2006— 11/9/06@ 6:20 pm

Ok, I answered this on another thread, but I can do it here too.

First, when did “liberals” make the claim “attacking any Muslim country, that was just what Bin Laden wanted and creates more terrorists“? Somehow they left me off the distribution for that memo, and I missed getting that word.

Liberals, yours truly included, did make the claim that attacking Iraq under the circumstances that we did would create more terrorists. According to several intelligence agencies, including our own CIA, that appears to be the case.

I’m sure some liberal somewhere probably made the claim you stated, just as I can find some conservative somewhere that made the claim that we should simply nuke the entire Muslim world, killing every man, woman and child living there regardless of whether they’ve done us any harm, or even regardless of whether they were actually Muslim.

Since your basic statement (that liberals had claimed that attacking any predominantly Muslim country would increase terrorism) is false, the rest of your question is meaningless.

But, even if your basic statement were true, it would simply mean that we would have to decide if the goal was worth the increased risk.

Was reducing or eliminating the ability of the terrorists to train in relative safety worth the risk of encouraging a few people to join them? I tend to think so.

Was capturing the leader of a country that we had effectively neutralized and surrounded worth the thousands of US lives, hundreds of thousands of Iraqi lives, billions of dollars, and the vastly increased incentive to join the terrorists? No, I don’t think so.

Does that clear it up for you, or should I use smaller words?

Commentby John Barelli— 11/9/06@ 6:52 pm

And to answer another of your posts:

“‘07 will be a great year for conservatives.”

Maybe, once the Republicans run the honest ones out of your party. I expect some of them will become Democrats and others will join the Libertarians (making that party more of a force in politics).

You see, most liberals get along pretty well with honest conservatives. Different perspectives, but often the same goals. Real conservatives believe in smaller, less intrusive government. Real conservatives believe in the rights guaranteed by the Constitution. Real conservatives believe in finding ways to help folks that do not intrude on their personal liberty.

We have our differences, but we can hold discussions with honest conservatives, often finding ways to accommodate their goals while working towards ours. Quite often the goals are not mutually exclusive.

Heck, there is a rather large percentage of Democrats that would have been considered conservative, back before the neo-cons somehow preempted the term.

Yes, conservative Democrats may well have a good year in ’07, but you neocons and fascists are going to have a really lousy year. Don’t worry. You can always blame it on President Clinton.

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Previouys post to “Truth:”

“Liberals put forth that by attacking any Muslim country, that was just what Bin Laden wanted and creates more terrorists.“

Wow, your comprehension is really lacking. I told you about this and gave you a link. You could have followed the link and read it to understand what was going on; instead, you attribute the conclusion to “liberals” and then try to set up your very clever trap. Hope I don’t fall into it?

Anyway, the 9/11 commission stated only that “ ‘a source reported that an individual whom he identified as the big instructor‘ (probably a reference to Bin Ladin) complained frequently that the United States had not yet attacked. According to the source, Bin Ladin wanted the United States to attack, and if it did not he would launch something bigger.”

So it was the 9/11 commission and their source, and not “liberals,” who “put that forth.”

Then, you set the trap:

“We attacked Afghanistan, a Muslim country. Liberals all claim that was the proper course of action.“

Counldn’t be further from the truth. Many people opposed the invasion of Afghanistan. For example, I did not oppose the invading Afghanistan as a means to get to the perps of 9/11, but I opposed the Bush administration stonewalling the legitimate Afghani government’s reasonable requests for US to share the information that led them to believe bin Laden was at fault before they’d turn him over to us, and I oppposed the US subsequently invading as lacking legitimacy because of it.

However, that said, the US military action WAS popular and supported by lots and lots of people of all political stripes because of the 9/11 attacks. Weird, huh?

“So liberals are saying they were for playing into Bin Laden’s hands and creating more terrorists?“

The 9/11 commission report came out in 2004. It’s the president’s actions and Republican suppport for same since we found out (a) that it’s part of bin Laden’s plan and (b) that we’re creating more and not fewer jihadists in Iraq that we have turned against, as sensible, non-ideologically blindered people SHOULD do.

Not that bin Laden favoring or not favoring a course should be the basis of our foreign policy. But when our intelligence services all concur that he’s right, we should fucking think about it for a fucking minute.

And that, children, is how the Republicans lost the Congress.

Regarding secret, warrantless wiretapping of US residents…

“rather than move to authorize the program, Democrats said they would push in January to investigate how the program had been run . . . . ”

It’s secret, so we don’t even know what’s been happening. But THIS (finally!) is how open, transparent government of, by, and for the people works. Public officials are in on what our republic does. If there’s nothing wrong, all the better. If someone who has been operating unaccountably has been doing something illegal or unconstitutional (which is the hazard of any untrammeled branch of government), then we need to freakin’ fix it.

We’re all patriots here, and everyone wants “terrorist sleeper cells” or whatever else keeps Republicans hiding under the bed to be caught and punished. Some of us just want a little more assurance that our government is not spying on us all along the way. And that the either follow our laws or request new ones wiht some good reasons instead of just ignoring them. Down that road lies dicatorship.

I just want to remind everyone what kind of people post comments on Sound Politics.

“Congratulations Speaker Pelosi, now let the bombs fall where they may. My prediction: terror attack on domestic soil passenger aircraft within the next six months. Casualties in the 2-300 range. And, unfortunately, maybe that’s just what we need. It’s obvious people don’t remember what happened 5 years ago.”
Posted by FullContactPolitics at November 8, 2006 10:52 AM

http://tinyurl.com/ydlfwu

(Quoted in full; nothing taken out of context.)

All Kerry did was bungle a jibe directed at Bush. This guy is saying he wants terrorists to kill Americans (apparently in revenge for electing Democrats).

Mike!? McGavick joins the ranks of John Carlson, Ellen Craswell, and Motherbeat Irons as big-time Republican loooosers! Even Richard Pope got better numbers than McGavick! He did better than Low Tax Looper, though.

Goldy,

Don’t you know Rummy doesn’t run on a Mac?

Probably the first question McGavick asked this morning was: “Okay, Cantwell wasn’t the easy pickings we thought. When does the other Senator – eh, what’s her hame – run for re-election again?”

This piece by Digby adds a little more meat to Goldy’s post below about the role of the netroots and grassroots in reforming the Democratic Party and righting the nation.

I think now is the time for the Socialist party and the Democratic party to merge and become the Democratic Socialist Party of America.

We should start by electing Berney Sanders as leader of the Senate in this new congress.

Following up on my post above, I just noticed that FDL has a pretty good roundup of the scramble for credit and competing lessons of this election.

Also, TBogg’s hilarious predictions post needs to be seen. Compare his predictions to your election night experiences.

Subject to recount. At this moment, Virginia has the highest concentration of lawyers on the planet.

Yes the righties are out to hurt America and they hate it that we’ve taken the country back from them so bad that they are hoping for terror attacks against US cities.

Let’s hunt these fuckers down and give em some justice. They’re traitors. Simple fact.

“In Arizona, three men, one of them armed, stopped Hispanic voters and questioned them outside a Tucson polling place, according to voting monitors for the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund.

“In Maryland, sample ballots misidentifying the party affiliations of Republican Gov. Robert Ehrlich and Senate candidate Michael Steele were handed out by people bused in from out of state, The Washington Post reported.

“In Virginia, election officials contacted the FBI over complaints of voter intimidation. In some states, long lines formed, prompting appeals to judges to keep polls open longer.”

Quoted under Fair Use; for complete story and/or copyright info see http://tinyurl.com/yghvd2

Did you notice that gas prices went up today? hmmmm….

nice visual pun !

ELECTION 2006

Dems complete election sweep of Congress
WASHINGTON — Democrats completed an improbable double-barreled election sweep of Congress on Wednesday, taking control of the Senate with a victory in Virginia as they padded their day-old majority in the House.
Update · 6:32 p.m.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/

(November 08, 2006 — 09:48 PM EST // link)
100% of precincts in King County reporting, Darcy Burner is up by about a thousand votes over Rep. Reichert (R) in WA-8.

http://www.metrokc.gov/electio.....sPage4.htm

CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT NO. 8

Ballots Cast/Registered Voters: 126040 / 316777 39.79%

Poll Precincts Counted/Total Poll Precincts: 745
/ 745 100.00%

United States Representative Congressional District No. 8

Darcy Burner DEM 62516 50.31%

Dave Reichert REP 61595 49.56%

Write-in 161 0.13%

kids…are you ignoring your buddy “the socialist” again? come on…that’s not nice and we all know that you libs are really cozy with socialists so why snub him in public, hmmmmmmmmm?

Since the first vote count in the 8th district, Reichart has held a 2700 vote lead. According to statistical theory, that is fishy. If reichart wins by 2700, we better check the trail of that smell.

39#

Thanks

I think

You know, Ghost, for someone who spends a lot of time griping about other people expressing unconstructive thoughts, you sure seem to not engage in much discussion that has any kind of constructive aim.

Socialism was born out of the extreme operation of the industrial revolution , of child labor and working people all most to death for barely enough to live on. You can still see this process going on in china and India and other countries we have allowed our capitalist to exploit. and don’t worry if the capitalist have there way it will be coming back to America really soon.

Goldy’s two favorite people in the whole world.

Like attracts like.

Clueless, I think the Ghost’s most interesting reaction is the seeming outrage at the backlash of some Democrats directed toward Republicans after decades of being demonized by Republicans. I detect a distinct inability, or at least significantly impaired ability, to stand in someone else’s shoes. At times, I wonder if this kind of self-absorbsion isn’t a fairly common phenomenon amongst the right-wing.

Um…. Sad as it is… you’re not looking at TOTALS on the Burner race above…. you are only looking at King County totals…

The Totals, as of tonight are:

Darcy Burner
Democrat 74,861 49.1027%
Dave Reichert
Republican 77,597 50.8973%

Wish it was better news…

Amen.

This district has NEVER elected a Gooper… yet we get closer every time… the tide is turning!

I am SOOOO proud of the campaign that Darcy has run here… she represents what is GOOD about the Eastside.

Reichert on the other hand… represents the redneck, pierce county mullet heads.

Sigh.

re 41; your such a poor little victim. But I don’t believe a word you say.

You need a good spanking! That will get your juices flowing. I’ll do it. I’ll leave red hand marks on your bottom and you’ll be telling me,”Daddy, I’ve been a bad wittle girl….”

Can you save some of that wetland for me?

I am so relieved! I thought there for a minute that I might have to actually stay in a job for two years! Can you imagine?

The voters in the 8th aren’t very bright, as pointed out on this blog. I bet most of them didn’t go to Harvard, like I did. I even bet most of them didn’t work for Microsoft!

When will it sink in, Righties? You are so OVER.

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When the neocons stole power I never imagined they would drown themselves in their own slime so soon. I thought it would take at least 10 years.

Now here is a word from Ann Coulter:

History was made this week! For the first time in four election cycles, Democrats are not attacking the Diebold Corp. the day after the election, accusing it of rigging its voting machines. I guess Diebold has finally been vindicated.

So the left won the House and also Nicaragua. They’ve had a good week. At least they don’t have their finger on the atom bomb yet.

Democrats support surrender in Iraq, higher taxes and the impeachment of President Bush. They just won an election by pretending to be against all three.

Jon Tester, Bob Casey Jr., Heath Shuler, possibly Jim Webb — I’ve never seen so much raw testosterone in my life. The smell of sweaty jockstraps from the “new Democrats” is overwhelming.

Having predicted this paltry Democrat win, my next prediction is how long it will take all these new “gun totin’ Democrats” to be fitted for leotards.

Now that they’ve won their elections and don’t have to deal with the hicks anymore, Tester can cut lose the infernal buzz cut, Casey can start taking “Emily’s List” money, and Webb can go back to writing more incestuously homoerotic fiction … and just in time for Christmas!

But according to the media, this week’s election results are a mandate for pulling out of Iraq (except in Connecticut where pro-war Joe Lieberman walloped anti-war “Ned the Red” Lamont).

In fact, if the Democrats’ pathetic gains in a sixth-year election are a statement about the war in Iraq, Americans must love the war! As Roll Call put it back when Clinton was president: “Simply put, the party controlling the White House nearly always loses House seats in midterm elections” — especially in the sixth year.

In Franklin D. Roosevelt’s sixth year in 1938, Democrats lost 71 seats in the House and six in the Senate.

In Dwight Eisenhower’s sixth year in 1958, Republicans lost 47 House seats, 13 in the Senate.

In John F. Kennedy/Lyndon Johnson’s sixth year, Democrats lost 47 seats in the House and three in the Senate.

In Richard Nixon/Gerald Ford’s sixth year in office in 1974, Republicans lost 43 House seats and three Senate seats.

Even America’s greatest president, Ronald Reagan, lost five House seats and eight Senate seats in his sixth year in office.

But in the middle of what the media tell us is a massively unpopular war, the Democrats picked up about 30 House seats and five to six Senate seats in a sixth-year election, with lots of seats still too close to call. Only for half-brights with absolutely no concept of yesterday is this a “tsunami” — as MSNBC calls it — rather than the death throes of a dying party…

Thank you, truthless, for showing us that the Coultergeist is willing to cling to her delusions through thick and thin. But, perhaps you can tell us, why did she leave out Clinton’s sixth year mid-term?

Facts, drunks and lamp-posts again.

A few days ago Bush was saying “Elect the Democrats, and the terrorists win.”

I think we’d better show him who REALLY won.

One day after Republicans lost their majority in the U.S. House and Senate, a question: Just how solid is the alliance among Democrat incumbents, moderates, newly-elected conservatives who used to be Republicans, and the fringe left?

Northwest Progressive Institute (NPI) did something today on their website that may reveal rogue riptides in the ‘blue wave’ that swept through Tuesday’s elections:
 A blog entry was posted by NPI contributor ‘Stilwell’ which blasted Rahm Emanuel and Democrat leadership over private meetings, held pre-election, to discuss how the liberal wing of the party would not be allowed to dominate the agenda next year. ‘Stilwell’ was none-too-happy, as evidenced by these excerpts: “We knew before the election that the mindless centrists who brought us twelve years of hell would immediately try to throw progressives under the bus. And sure enough Rahm Emmanuel has already started that attempt… The centrists should cut the crap and accept progressives as full partners, or we keep fighting. Their call. Deep down they know they would still be the minority if it weren’t for progressives…”. Pretty provocative piece, so I linked to it.
 I went back to the post later, to see if any comments had been entered. One had, by ‘Possum’ of the Roadkill blog. Roadkill is a self-described moderate who has been equally tough on the GOP and Democrats. But Possum’s comment was a more of a warning: that the people who had actually been thrown under the bus were moderates who felt betrayed by the GOP for not living up to the promise of conservative government for the past 12 years, and that if Democrats thought they had a mandate to do anything they wanted or cater to the extreme left of the party, they too would be voted out of power. Stilwell’s response? “Screw you troll”. I couldn’t resist and left a comment: “Spoken like a true progressive”.
 A few hours later, I discovered the post had been pulled. At first I wasn’t sure if it was intentional or due to technical problems, but I had my answer later when I discovered the link was being re-directed to the main NPI blog page. It was obvious at the point an effort was underway by NPI to hide the Stilwell post.
 I couldn’t find the post in my browser cache, but I was able to take a snapshot of a Google search which shows the post was up long enough to be in the Google search index (click here if you want to see it).
So here are the questions I have: Why did NPI take the post down? Did they get pressure from Democrat leadership? What is the plan by the netroots if they are shut out of power by the Democrats and are not accepted as “full partners”?
I really wish I had cached or copied the full post because it represents why the new Democrat majority in congress is less of a “house of blue” and more of a “house of cards”. It’s a majority that was acquired by running conservative democrats against GOP incumbents, in part fueled by money raised from the extreme left and blogosphere. As slim as the majority is, it seems like it will be difficult to keep all factions happy and motivated and feeling like they have a place at the table.
And, as an aside, how ironic that the netroots biggest and most expensive goal – replacing Joe Lieberman with Ned Lamont – failed. And not only for failing to get Lamont elected, but by making Lieberman, now a swing-voting independent in 49-49-2 split Senate, even more crucial to the Democrats plans to ride that ‘blue wave’.
And if you know of other examples of netroot or progressive meltdowns towards Democrats, send them my way. There should be plenty.
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Don’t you just hate it when the Culture of Corruption NECONS come on this blog and lie? I for one am sick of it.

ChristmasGhost if you’re going to continue to come to HA and lie, whine, bitch, complain, and be unpatriotic, please stay away.

“this tokenism about the minimum wage. why not actually raise it to a living wage? why? because then every company would do what i have already started to do….automate everything.

honey…the sooner you figure out that i am always ahead of you, the better off you’ll be.

Commentby christmasghost— 11/7/06@ 10:10 pm”

“ass…my kind?
and just what kind is that? do you mean a person that owns a company that employs people at a very good wage? or the person that spent her own money and blood, sweat and tears to save a wetland? how about the person that does wildlife rescue?
that person? you want that person to go away?
let me guess…you are a seattle parasite that talks big but does nothing. except for yourself…..am i warm yet?

Commentby christmasghost— 11/8/06@ 7:39 pm”

When will these fucking lying pieces of shit NEOCONS learn not to lie in writing? Don’t you know you get caught and shamed by us truth seeking LIBERALS?

ChristmasGhost, if you keep lying like this and I’ll bitch slap you around on this blog until you forced to never come back just like I did to that lying piece of shit JCH.

Get over it, you lost. Like President Clinton said, “when Americans vote in mass DEMOCRATS get elected.” Why do you think your fucking shitty party tries to suppress voter turn out? You lying scumbag. The Culture of Corruption runs deep in you immoral shit bags.

So yes, if you’re going to continue to be unAmerican please do us all a favor and stay away.

Bad news for the kos kids and other progressives.

Bill Clinton: Election No Move to the Left by U.S.
In Ottawa Canada last night, former president Bill Clinton told a crowded forum that the election results were “a rejection of hard-headed, ideological politics in which people just make up their mind what the answer is and then they try to make the facts fit the answer,” according to a report in the Toronto Star.
At a press conference before his address to a Jewish National Fund dinner, Clinton noted: “I think the American people prefer, first, a government that gets things done and is not mired in partisan gridlock.”
Clinton also told reporters at the press conference that Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld’s resignation was “more or less inevitable” because even before the elections, notable military publications in the U.S. were asking for a new direction in Iraq.
It provides an opportunity “to make a new beginning” on Iraq, Clinton added.

Clinton told the dinner crowd that Americans, while more “culturally conservative” than Canadians, are at the core “a practical people,” adding, “It would be a big mistake to read the results as some big move to the left in America.”
Confessing that he flew to Canada after staying up until 5 in the morning celebrating his wife Hillary’s re-election to the U.S. Senate, the former president concluded that U.S. voters clearly want a government that doesn’t stray too far to the right or too far to the left.
“They thought that the government has gone too far to the right, is too unaccountable,” Clinton said. “So what they voted for was not necessarily to legitimize the whole Democratic agenda but to give us a chance to build the vital centre of America and to get things done and come together.”
The mid-term results are marching orders to President Bush “for the country to get together,” Clinton concluded.
The Star noted that former Liberal prime minister Jean Chrétien and his wife, Aline, were at the head table — while Conservatives were notably absent.

GBS….lying dear? i believe that is your forte, is it not?
what? what i have done and have to say disturbs you because it ruins your whole little “shrewisms” about evil nasty republicans?
oh bring it on baby……i would love to see you TRY to take me down. because you can’t.
this is what happens when you generalize about a whole group of people you ACTUALLY know nothing about. you are just trash that has never ammounted to anything by your own fault [it’s called laziness] and are standing outside the candy store looking in….without anything to buy the candy with. should we feel sorry for you? no….you are a parasite…you have proven that too many times.
ahhh…the base of the far left…..if you thought the far right was crazy these people really take the cake.
and here’s a little thinker for you. you should try and remember that you really don’t KNOW who you are talking to….now do you?
you give the term MEME a whole new meaning as in “what about ME , ME , ME , ME, ME ????????????????
but your post is hysterical.
first of all, what have you done? talked alot [bingo] and done nothing. walked around holding a sign soemeone else made? and still did nothing.talked about the environment but you don’t actually ever do anything, right?
you hate big oil [and once again for that little lefty whine to mean anything…where is LITTLE oil?] and yet, here you are typing on it and burning it up as electricity.
does your hypocrisy know no bounds??????
you are nothing more than a gasbag phoney.
and sweets…i didn’t lose anything. i wasn’t running for office. my god with your lack of grasp of the english language it’s a wonder you can cross the street………

clueless…raygun? ohmygod…you can’t even come up with YOUR OWN insults. good grief. are you a californian? no? then stop line stealing…it’s so tacky. but obviously you are a 1960’s retread…that line gave you away.
“progressives” won’t be running the DNC or the house and senate…didn’t you get the memo honey? just ask bill or rahm…they already announced it far and wide…where were you?
god…so it’s true!!!! AMAZING!
you fools didn’t even realize you were being used only to be discarded as nuts. i am not worried about the future of this country. i am not worried about moderate democrats. you tools scared the crap out of me….but let’s face it, you are the ONLY ONES that didn’t realize you wouldn’t be running the dog and pony show.
wow…this is really amazing….i am going to be laughing for a long, long time……….

Sad, isn’t it.

Mike!? McGavick is the problem, not the solution. He wants to increase federal deficits by creating “private accounts” with Social Security taxes. We already have private accounts … they’re called IRAs, Roths, Keoghs, and 401(k)s.

Worst Treehouse of Horror episode ever.

Worst Treehouse of Horror episode ever. Commentby Reporterward— 11/6/06@ 12:51 am

Yeah, it doesn’t follow the TOH format. It’s too true-to-life.

Next thing you know the wingnuts will accuse O’Connor (a Republican appointed by Reagan) of being a “liberal activist judge.”

Makes you wonder how it even got on the ballot in South Dakota.

19 A few years back, when email spam was just starting to become a real problem, I and other systems administrators would attempt to contact the ISP’s of the originators and point out that such activitity violated their published terms of use. In the course of this I discovered how many of the major porn purveyors were hosted by the likes of AT&T and uunet.

When you vote Tuesday don’t forget the Bushies made America safer by posting Iraqi documents on the internet that tell terrorists how to assemble a nuclear bomb. Commentby Roger Rabbit— 11/6/06@ 12:45 am

Furball, you said: “Where are the WMD’s in Iraq?” So how could something nonexistent be posted by your worthless logic?

Why is moonbattism against all that is good.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....=rss_world

“With a potentially historic U.S. midterm election on Tuesday and the war in Iraq a major issue at the polls, many soldiers said the United States should not abandon its effort here. Such a move, enlisted soldiers and officers said, would set Iraq on a path to civil war, give new life to the insurgency and create the possibility of a failed state after nearly four years of fighting to implant democracy.

“Take us out of that vacuum — and it’s on the edge now — and boom, it would become a free-for-all,” said Lt. Col. Mark Suich, who commands the 1st Squadron, 89th Cavalry Regiment just south of Baghdad. “It would be a raw contention for power. That would be the bloodiest piece of this war.”

The soldiers declined to discuss the political jousting back home, but they expressed support for the Bush administration’s approach to the war, which they described as sticking with a tumultuous situation to give Iraq a chance to stand on its own.”

Being moonbat is a mental disorder!

Here is something to wake up the clueless ones in the morning:

http://people-press.org/reports/tables/295.pdf

The race is tightening up!

GBS………..Very soon!!! Thank you John “Swift Boat” Kerry!!!!

Mike Webb SUCKS! Come over. I need a massage. Bring some “stuff” too.

I’ll let you talk to the Preznit…

My posts disappeared.

Maybe it was naother thread that MWS W\was spamming with the same posts (minus the three-page WorldNetDaily scumfest).

For all of you who said that the NYTimes was guilty of treason for exposing illegal administration activities:

You do not post detailed classified plans for making the components of a nuke on the Internet! As if this needs any escalating qualifiers, you especially don’t post it in Arabic in the middle of a war against well-financed terrorists teeming with crazy, suicidal jihadists. We have no way of knowing how much this helped the bad guys, but that’s hardly the point. It does not matter how useful the information given away turns out to be. At the least, for those at fault it should mean being firedb> plus immediate revocation of any and all security clearances. If done knowingly for a seedy, ulterior motive against the stated consensus of seasoned national security professionals, it is a capital crime. You’re lucky if you get forty years in the federal pen for giving secrets to the enemy.

Right?

You do not post detailed classified plans for making the components of a nuke on the Internet!

Yeah. WOS is really into that crap. The Preznit made sure the 101st fighting keyboarders and crazy Curt Weldon could fuel their fantasies with all that crap and in the process hand WMD howto over to anybody.

Wingnuttia is the real deal mental disorder!

WOS loves terror..

I traced all the troll posts to Ed Orcutt. He is soooo predictable.

If Democrats are getting edgy, then why is the NRCC paying for robocalls that violate FCC rules?

The democrats lack the cohesive plan to generate victory on Tuesday. “Bush is bad” is good…but not enough to do a 1994-like turn.

Too bad, if they could have gotten it together this year, it would have been easy.

Dick Cheney hasn’t announced his hunting buddies yet for this trip. That will be determined after tomorrow’ election. Lots of “expendable” Republicans will be available, who will have a lot of extra time on their hands.

56 NPR was reporting that Cheney’s going hunting with his daughter.

OOPS! Sorry.

Oprah told about a bazillion chicks to vote DEM. Who you think them chicks listen to? Rush Limbaugh or Oprah Winfrey-Stedman.

Uh oh! Oprah spotted that “Winfrey-Stedman” comment and she’s headed my way with a skillet full of hot bacon fat!!!

51 Observer

I thought this was the only poll that counts:

Fox news poll: “Nearly half of likely voters — 49 percent — favor the Democratic candidate in their House district and 36 percent the Republican, with 15 percent still undecided in a FOX News poll conducted the final weekend before the midterm elections. More Democrats (37 percent) than Republicans (26 percent) say they are extremely interested in tomorrow’s elections, and more Democrats (89 percent) than Republicans (81 percent) say they plan to vote for their party’s candidate in their district…Independents favor the Democratic candidate by 42 percent to 27 percent…”

Anyway, what you’re seeing is Democrats getting excited. The ass kicking is about to begin. I predict 27 seats in the House and 5 in the Senate (1 short of control). Say hello to Speaker Pelosi.

54 TT

“The democrats lack the cohesive plan to generate victory on Tuesday”

The Republicans lack a cohesive plan to “generate” victory in Iraq, and everyone knows it.

And the seven-point lead in the (USAToday/Gallup) generic poll is exactly where the congressional generic was for the Gallup poll for the Republicans in 1994. And Fox News is reporting a 13-point edge in the generic poll.

So, to close, you don’t know what you’re talking about. However, your ignorant opinion is noted.

JCH,

You’re correct, very soon one of us will be banned from HA permanently. Since we’re so close to never exchanging barbs again let me ask you just one question. And, for Pete’s sake, please be honest.

Why did you mislead people and try to convince them that the reason you didn’t finish flight school and become a Naval aviator was just a figment of my “vivid imagination?”

66 Stedman

Unfortunately, your response proves my point.

The Dems platform is effectively “The Reps. don’t have a strategy”.

You say I don’t know what I’m talking about. Perhaps. I hope the Dems take at least one house. I just feel that they missed their big change.

GBS, Again, your question has been answered in previous posts. FYI, I figure you are out of here in 48 hours, and I will take full credit for taking out the liberal Democrat traitor garbage. [BTW, COKER wins in TENN………Liberman goes independent, and Kerry’s big liberal “insult the troops” mouth kicks you off HA.ORG. “Game…….Set……..Match” Regards, JCH

SurveyUSA polls in Virginia shows Jim Webb with 52% of the likely voters, with 44% going to Macaca Allen.

Count Virgina into the total, baby!

Dear Terrorist Moooooooooooooslims and illegal aliens, NO!! YOU MAY NOT VOTE!!!!! Border Patrol with big attack dogs and the MinuteMen will be at EVERY poll!!! In addition, Democrat blacks in Milwaukee who destroy Republican vans tonight will be arrested and will lose their “guvment” checks!!!!

Pennsylvania: Casey (D) win
Ohio: Brown (D) win
Maryland: Cardin (D) win
Rhode Island: Whitehouse (D) win
Montana: Tester (D) win
Virgnia: Webb (D) win
Missouri: McCaskill (D) win

And Connecticut? I think Lamont can do it, but it’s not a good bet.

JCH,

You never said “why” you felt compelled to lie about your military service, which has been the gist of my line of questioning all along.

What you don’t understand about the Liberman race is that if he wins that helps my position because Liberman will cacus with the Democrats for control of the senate. Remember the bet; whichever party controls the senate.

Riiiiigghhht, Daddy, Rrrriiight.

Not.

Absolutely Awesome! I have found Cliff to be a bit ‘inappropriate’ – like with a woman named Mary Katherine-somebody he debated on CNN a couple of weeks ago but, matched with an A–hole like this Brad, he was perfect.

No negotiations with these bastards, Goldy! We’ll never return to “business as usual” with Republicans. Nothing less than unconditional surrender and Nuremberg-style trials. Let’s bomb them into submission!

Pastor Ted confesses to his flock (through a spokesman).

I HAVE SINNED!!!!

Sigh.. Like we haven’t heard this before?

Damn you for telling me to watch that and not warning me about the involvement of Rita Cosby.

Cliff is my hero. Right up there with Keith Olbermann and, oddly enough, Mike Lupica, the esteemed and extremely liberal, sportswriter at the NY Daily News. Today he had the following FRONT PAGE OPINION in the NY Daily News. Take a moment and read it.

We are not going to take it anymore. We are taking our damn country back.

Bravo to Cliff, best thing is he’s probably Jewish!

Isn’t it funny that the word “testosterone” keep running in the crawler for a segment hosted by Rita Cosby?

The righties probably will spin it as a Democratic attempt to reduce the amount of money refunded to employers to cut into BIAW’s L & I refund skimming racket.

Schecter is a LIAR. Clinton was President when teh USS Cole was attacked.

And Cliff didn’t say he wasn’t. He said Bush didn’t respond to the Cole attack. Bush was president when the intelligence agencies confirmed who was behind the Cole attack. So, thanks for highlighting another Bush screwup.

Commentby FaithfulDemocrat

I agree. If only all Democrats were like Joe Lieberman! When Joe called Lamont a jerk, that was classy. And when Joe’s supporters blocked Lamont from speaking at a senior center, that made me want to run out and vote immediately. And when Joe changes his positions to match whatever he thinks his audience wants to hear, my faith in democracy is reestablished.

IT’S THAT “LIBERAL MEDIA” AGAIN!!!

Hmmmm … the Vancouver Columbian isn’t exactly a bastion of lefty thinking, especially on its editorial pages. In particular, that newspaper prints copious quantities of irrational, wingnutty, far right “letters to the editor.” Maybe they just grow ’em crazy down there in Clark County. Anyway, their editorial staff apparently has at least one voice of reason:

‘Death tax’ might be on its death bed

Sunday, November 5, 2006
JOHN LAIRD Columbian editorial page editor

Two weeks ago I boldly suggested that increasing the investment in public education might increase the dividends. Such a bizarre theory, as expected, had the anti-tax crusaders contorting like bacon on a griddle. Many unleashed their hackneyed lament about “just throwin’ money at the problem!”

Cheer up, tightwads! I bring good tidings. I predict Initiative 920 will pass next Tuesday, and our state estate tax will be repealed. Oh, but the news gets even better: When the “death tax” dies, that means $184 million will be taken from public education. And that comes on the heels of last week’s lawsuit filed by a dozen school districts, claiming that the state is spending $130 million short of what’s needed for special education.

So, instead of just throwin’ money at the problem, in these two cases we can actually deny public education a combined $314 million! All together now: Cell-uh-brate! Good times! Come on!

Flash back to 1944, when Congress decided to just throw money at a public need, mostly in public education. In the ensuing eight years, an astounding $14 billion was thrown by the government. Whitey Ford never threw so much. The commitment continues today. We just keep throwin’ money too many billions to accurately measure by now.

The original intent was to help victorious American soldiers of World War II resume their regular lives. The Servicemen’s Readjustment Act of 1944 became better known as the GI Bill.

Writing for the Los Angeles Times (his column appeared in The Columbian last Tuesday), author Edward Humes noted that the GI Bill “transformed the nation and the very nature of the American dream, opening up the colleges, raising suburbs out of bean fields, creating a new middle class and providing the medical, engineering and scientific prowess that conquered long-feared diseases, ushered in the Information Age and helped win the Cold War.” Bob Dole called the GI Bill the “biggest piece of legislation the country ever passed.”

GI Bill money has been thrown at 20 million veterans and dependents, people who went on to become three presidents (George H.W. Bush, Gerald Ford and Jimmy Carter), 14 Nobel Prize winners, doctors, nurses, teachers and tycoons.

But what’s in it for the taxpayers?

Anti-tax crusaders will snarl: So what? Just more government hand-outs, right? Perhaps, but a congressional study in 1988 revealed that the GI Bill has returned almost $7 for every dollar the public has invested. That dividend is measured in increased consumer spending and increased taxes paid by people who would not have gone to college without the GI Bill. Even as America’s gesture of gratitude to veterans has become a six-decade investment with a return of almost 7-to-1, surely there were those back in 1944 who complained about “throwin’ money at the problem.”

Fast-forward now to 2006 and the pending death-tax funeral. The Colum-bian endorsed I-920, and I predict most voters will agree. But a few of us voted against I-920 for one simple reason: We believe recipients of unearned income should be taxed the same as recipients of hard-earned income. The death tax’s postmortem will show two things:

* That $184 million tab won’t go away. Ultimately it will be paid by you and me, recipients of our own hard-earned income, mostly middle-class folks.

* Recipients of unearned income a few hundred multimillionaire heirs will hoist crystal goblets to toast I-920. Fat cats will get to buy bigger yachts.

Until then, while many angry people excoriate public investments, consider a few common personal investments:

Have you ever paid a dollar for a 20-ounce bottle of water? That’s $6.40 a gallon for the most plentiful liquid on Earth, stuff you can walk into any public building and drink for free.

Ever paid 75 cents for air for your tires? Or 45 cents extra just to use a debit card at a gas pump?

Finally, were you one of those giddy “investors” who poured $458 million last year into our state lottery ($73 per state resident)? Oh, but that was voluntary, you insist? Yes, but I would argue that supporting public education and investing in milestone measures such as the GI Bill likely will pay a bigger dividend than scratching frantically in some parking lot on a piece of cardboard.

http://tinyurl.com/y2cphn

(Quoted under Fair Use)

The Vancouver Columbian reported today,

“An oversight by an employee in the U.S. Postal Service’s Portland office led to delayed delivery of several thousand Clark County ballots, mostly to Ridgefield-area voters. Auditor Greg Kimsey said they finally were delivered five or six days later than should have been the case, but still well ahead of Nov. 7.” http://tinyurl.com/ydwoaw

Watch the wingnuts spin that into,

“King County disenfranchised military voters again!”

Schecter opened a nice can of whupass on that guy. There are so many facts to sling at these crooks that it is hard to do it effectively and breathe too. Cliff is a model for how to play this bullshit “he said she said” game. And oh, didn’t Rita try her damndest to prop up the Bushies on the Saddam verdict? Just like her Ken Mehlman talking points told her to.

Roll on Tuesday.

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Commentby lesbian gangbang— 11/5/06@ 12:09 pm

Another GOP campaign ad … ?

I certainly hope that after the Democrat party is dealt defeat in their attempt to take over the congress that they finally overthrow the leftist hate American scum that has taken over the party and return to it roots as a centrist party.

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It makes me want to say to hell with it. Commentby FaithfulDemocrat— 11/5/06@ 1:18 pm

Maybe you should go back and review Coulter’s remarks about wanting to kill liberals and Democrats. You’re under attack, my friend. Newt Gingrich told these guys to wage “civil war” against us, and that’s exactly what they’re doing. Would you rather get shot in the front advancing toward the enemy or shot in the back running from the enemy? If you’re a Democrat, you have no other choices at this point.

32

Is that you, ProudAss? Pretending to be a “faithful Democrat?”

Comment 34 is hereby retracted. “Faithful Democrat” isn’t a Democrat, he’s a wingnut liar.

On another blog, someone described Republicans as corporitists, bigots or gay-haters. Guess that about covers it.

So he went to Iraq – the one country where the dictator didn’t want anything to do with Osama?

Even in context, Rabbit’s right. What fools you all are! (I’m laughing so hard at this weak attempt to diffuse an accurate quote) Afghanistan was the war . . . Iraq an induldence that cost thousands their lives while Bush dithers in bush-cutting country. What idiots you are!

And Bundy was a Republican. So what? You’ve reached the bottom of the barrel. Finally.

Apparently no HTML is allowed. Or Clownstein is censoring again.

The question is…

When we defeat the cowardly traitors on the right who’ve tried to give the terrorists a win by destroying our Constitution, will the inbred right wing republicans be:

1) Going to Lush Flimbaugh for some Viagra

so they can

2) Spend money visiting Pastor Ted’s gay prostitute?

HE HE! You righties are about to see what being asswhipped is all about. I can’t wait to see how many of you have turned tail and run on Wed. We’ll be here Wed to rub it in your cowardly chests.

I can’t wait to spit on you child raping assholes!!!!!!!!

McGavick$!, hypocrisy is your name.

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“Claim: Quotes reproduce statements made by Democratic leaders about Saddam Hussein’s acquisition or possession of weapons of mass destruction. …

“All of the quotes listed above are substantially correct reproductions of statements made by various Democratic leaders regarding … Saddam Hussein’s … weapons of mass destruction.

“However, some of the quotes are truncated, and context is provided for none of them — several of these quotes were offered in the course of statements that clearly indicated the speaker was decidedly against unilateral military intervention in Iraq by the U.S.

“Moreover, several of the quotes offered antedate the four nights of airstrikes unleashed against Iraq by U.S. and British forces during Operation Desert Fox in December 1998, after which Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen and Gen. Henry H. Shelton (chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff) announced the action had been successful in ‘degrad[ing] Saddam Hussein’s ability to deliver chemical, biological and nuclear weapons.'”

Snopes.com then discusses at great length the context of the quotes. http://tinyurl.com/3btfn

This sort of cherry-picking produces results like this:

Original (hypothetical) quote:

“Roger Rabbit is a liberal freak. He shouldn’t call me a wingnut traitor. I’m a nice guy.”

After Roger Rabbit’s editing:

“Roger Rabbit is a … nice guy.”

See what I mean? I can play this selective-quotes game too! Why shouldn’t I? You guys do it. Why should you have a fucking monopoly on selective quoting? Republicans want a monopoly on every fucking thing!

All sources to these quotes can be found .

Commentby Truth2006— 11/5/06@ 3:03 pm

Your quotes mean nothing to me. They can’t bring back the lives spent on this charade. Clinton never did my thinking for me. Just because you let others do your thinking for you . . . don’t ass-u-me we are all lazy bastards who buy the line. I listened to the people who were there . . . not the politicians. You’re ignorant if you get all your information from politicians and bureaucrats. So typically Rethuglican.

@24

Commentby sgmmac— 11/5/06@ 3:25 pm

You continue to show you ignorance Smeg. The money will come from those of us in the middle who are already paying 17% of our incomes on taxes . . . while the rich are paying in aggregate about 4%. What an insipid and uninformed voter you are. You will trade your grandchildren’s education for more taxes on their parents.

55

So Mac — which tax should be raised to provide adequate funding for education? The estate tax?

42

Liar Rabbit, how about printing the FULL quote instead of the select portions? LIAR!!! Commentby FaithfulDemocratJoeDemocrat— 11/5/06@ 2:58 pm

See #56. I’m a partisan hack.

Skagit,

You arn’t paying any taxes for education in this state. Wrong estate tax.

Roger,

My point is – it’s ridiculous to rely on a tax that relies on someone from a certain class dying. If I believe the ads – we are relying on less than 1% of the population in Washington state to die………

How about a state income tax – so skagit can pay big bucks! Better yet, why not make the income tax progressive so that Bill Gates and Paul Allen can start paying for education NOW!

Our state constitution requires adequate funding for education from the STATE. Why can’t they find a STABLE income source? SMEG

YOU are the STATE you fool. You are the stable income source. I guess you like it that way. Or have you got a better tax in mind? If you do, put it out there. I might have some glimmer of respect for you if you can find a solution instead of being part of the ignorant problem.

@58,

“I listened to the people who were there . . . not the politicians. “

Apparently not. You wish to ignore Petty Officer Jennifer Kudrick when he reports that under a Democrat administration, he would be court martialed if he had fired on those terrorists. Let’s see EXACTLY what he said, shall we?

“we would have gotten in more trouble for shooting two foreigners than losing 17 American sailors.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Cole_bombing

Your attempt to try to fake out the people into believeing that Democrats do not have nothing but utter contempt for our troops is and obviously a lie. From the contemptuous statements from Democrat John Murtha who presumes our marines guilty before a trial to John Kerry calling them dumb, Americans KNOW who supports them and who does not. Hint, it isn’t the Democrats.

Let the troops speak for themselves
http://www.whatreallyhappened......oteout.jpg

BTW, Smeg, why have almost all the papers come out against it? Do you even read the papers . . . or look at information sites besides this one? Or are you one of those propagandized blowhards who hasn’t got a clue?

You are much to nice to this ignorant bigot and fool, Rabbit. BTW, I thought you made a great call to Goldy last week. He should have been nicer. You made a good point.

I like your idea Roger, are you running for office? I’ll vote for you…………..

As for the gas……… oh my. We will buy gas! There’s a news story out about the gas tax not being able to fund all of the projects these next two years…….

Skagit – You’ve been drinking or smoking too much dope!

PLEASE get informed, Smeg. For the sake of your grandkids if not for your own.

57

Glad to see you finally figured out how to use your own fucking computer! I don’t have time to be your secretary. Since you’re criticizing ME for not quoting Wikipedia in entirety, I’m sure you won’t mind if I criticize YOU for selectively quoting from Wikipedia. Here’s the whole thing:

“etty Officer John Washak said that right after the blast, a senior chief petty officer ordered him to turn an M-60 machine gun on the Cole’s fantail away from a second small boat approaching. ‘With blood still on my face,’ he said, he was told: ‘That’s the rules of engagement: no shooting unless we’re shot at.’ He added, ‘In the military, it’s like we’re trained to hesitate now. If somebody had seen something wrong and shot, he probably would have been court-martialed.’ Petty Officer Jennifer Kudrick said that if the sentries had fired on the suicide craft ‘we would have gotten in more trouble for shooting two foreigners than losing 17 American sailors.'”

So why couldn’t they shoot? Because of the Rules of Engagement. Now let’s ask, where do the ROE come from? Good question. Here’s the answer:

“The US Department of Defense officially defines ROE as: ‘Directives issued by competent military authority which delineate the circumstances and limitations under which United States forces will initiate and/or continue combat engagement with other forces encountered.'”

Aha! Clinton didn’t make the ROE! “Competent military authority” did. So why even have ROE? For the same reason we don’t let cops blow away anybody they want whenever they feel like it. To protect innocent people.

I suppose some wingnut ignoramus who made a point of not reading up on the subject could attempt to paint ROE as a black-and-white, you’re-for-America-or-against-America issue. He’d be blowing shit out of his ass:

“The ROE are extremely important: They provide a consistent, understandable and repeatable standard on how forces act. Typically they are carefully thought out in detail well in advance of an engagement and may cover a number of scenarios, with different rules for each. They assist in the synchronization of political-diplomatic and military components of a strategy by allowing political commanders to better understand, forecast and tailor the actions of a force.
The first rule of engagement for United States military forces is always the right to use force in self-defense.

“In any engagement, the ROE need to balance two competing goals: The need to use force effectively to accomplish the mission objectives and the need to avoid unnecessary force. This creates room for two types of error:

“Excessively tight ROE can constrain a commander from performing his mission effectively, called a Type I error. It is typical for the political leadership to constrain the actions of military commanders. This is often a source of tension between the political leaders, who are trying to accomplish a political or diplomatic objective, and the military commanders, who are trying make the most effective use of their forces. Sagan [2] provides an excellent discussion of this topic. The UN Peacekeeper’s ROE (see UNAMIR) during the Rwandan Genocide is a tragic example of too restrictive ROE.

“Excessively loose ROE can facilitate the escalation of a conflict which, while being tactically effective, negates the political objectives that the use of force was meant to achieve. This is a Type II or ‘escalatory’ error and an example of it may be the killing of Jean de Menezes on July 22, 2005.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_of_engagement

You see? It’s complicated! And wingnuts don’t understand complicated stuff, e.g. how to spell “to.”

Jean de Menezes, in case you don’t remember, was the innocent Brazilian that idiotic British bobbies pumped full of lead in a case of mistaken identity. The same kind of fuck-up that our government makes with depressing regularity in our officially sanctioned torture chambers. But the fact the majority of people our government has tortured were completely-fucking-innocent and were tortured because our government is completely-fucking-incompetent is too complicated for wingnuts to understand, too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J.....de_Menezes

64

“a tax that relies on someone from a certain class dying”

Well if you believe taxes are based on class, then the estate tax is no worse than taxing soda pop, which is a tax on people who can’t afford Chivas Regal.

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“Democrats do not have nothing but utter contempt for our troops is and obviously a lie.” Commentby Truth2006— 11/5/06@ 3:40 pm

Let’s review. Democrats fought in all our wars. Most of the veterans in Congress are Democrats. 9 of the 10 Iraq war veterans who ran for Congress this year are Democrats. Kerry served two tours in Vietnam, pulled dangerous duty on river patrol boats, was wounded and decorated. Bush was a draft dodger who used family pull to jump the line into a National Guard outfit so he wouldn’t go to Vietnam, then went AWOL from the Guard. Cher, a Hollywood liberal of the type people like you despise, personally donated $150,000 to Operation Helmet and raised public donations to buy battle helmets for our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan they can’t wring out of Bush’s Pentagon.

P.S. — I gave $99 to http://www.operation-helmet.org/ but you haven’t ponied up squat! Until you walk the talk, you’re a fake patriot and a lying POS.

“And any estate taxes they pay are deducted from the federal taxes. It keeps the money at home. But, then, you probably didn’t know that either. ”

Yes, I knew that. I also know that some are leaving the state to keep the money in their pocket instead of the state’s pocket.
You will continue to pay those obscene taxes in Seattle as long as you continue to support sin taxes and death taxes.

The estate tax is an unreliable source of income for education, because it is dependent upon an external force. If no-one in that class dies – the money isn’t there. The truly rich in Seattle will NEVER pay the tax, they’ve hired the lawyers and advisors to shelter all of their money. If I was a multi-millionaire – I’d give it all away BEFORE I died!

2,006 Lies — Trying to change the subject after getting your ass kicked @ 54 & 80?

Gidget!

It will stay in their pocket with the right tax advisors and the right states.

As for who is leaving – I don’t remember his name – he had a press conference and he’s moving most of his businesses and his money to another state………..

Some people are doing it for the “principal” of it. While it’s true that the poor and the working class are paying a larger percentage of their income in taxes, the rich are paying the majority of the taxes in this country. The poor and the middle class in THIS state are hit with way more than their fair share because this state doesn’t have a state income tax….

Let’s clarify a couple things.

First, I’m not a “cartoon character,” I’m a real live rabbit living in a hole in a public park. Does this look like a fucking cartoon? http://tinyurl.com/yhmz5h

Second, there is no connection between my name and any other rabbit, real or imaginary, named “Roger.” My daddy was a rabbit. My mommy named my “Roger.” It’s a common Christian name. Ergo, “Roger Rabbit.” I mean, you didn’t expect them to name me “Roger Mule” or “Roger Centipede” or “Roger Eagle” when I’m a fucking rabbit, did you?

Third, I have no affiliation, connection, or association with the inventors, producers, etc. of any comic, book, film, or literary work about some other “Roger Rabbit.” Until they give me a share of the profits, I have nothing to do with it.

Fourth, “Roger” and “Rabbit” are both common English words and therefore not copyrightable. Calling myself “Roger Rabbit” is the same thing as John Smith calling himself “John Smith.” The fact that some other John Smith is in jail is no reason for challenging his voter registration, and anybody who tries it ought to be in jail, too.

Fifth, “Roger Rabbit” is alliterative. This is a big word, in fact it’s a huge word, so you’ll probably need to look it up in a dictionary. I’m sure you don’t have one in your trailer, so you’ll need to go to a public library, I’m sure there’s one in your community where wingnuts haven’t burned all the books yet. Try rolling it off your tongue … “R-r-r-o-g-g-g-e-r-r-r-r R-r-r-r-a-b-b-i-t-t … see what I mean? Alliterative. That’s why I like it.

Sixth, I didn’t read the book or see the movie either, so I have no fucking idea what they’re about, so I couldn’t possibly have adopted the persona of a cartoon character. The Roger Rabbit of HorsesAss.org together with all of my persona, thoughts, adventures, and opinions is solely a creative of my own furry paws pounding on my own fucking keyboard.

Seventh, if you don’t like it, take a deep breath and bend over as far as you can and suck a fart out of your ass. Be sure to swallow when you’re done.

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“the rich are paying the majority of the taxes in this country”

Why shouldn’t they? They have the majority of the income and property in this country.

Despite income taxes, estate taxes, and all the other abuse that society heaps on wealthy cheap labor conservatives, they still manage to …

not work
own the biggest houses
drive the most expensive cars
have fancy yachts
drink the best booze
belong to country clubs
send their kids to private schools and colleges
avoid military service
boss everyone else around
get waited on hand and foot

Personally, I could live with that! Sure doesn’t look to me like they’re being killed by income taxes, capital gains taxes, or estate taxes. They’re especially not being killed by taxes they don’t pay, which is most taxes, most of the time. In addition to all of the special privileges and perks listed above, they also have accountants and lawyers who are good at reducing their tax burden. They avoid a lot more taxes than wage earners do! And they get all sorts of neat exemptions, allowances, credits, and deductions the rest of us don’t get.

Mike!? McGavick is the problem, not the solution.

Rabbit, go easy on Mike! He’s history.

Well let’s all vote with the newspapers endorsements Skagit…

I read the Time,and you all had a cow for their opinion, so I guess you are voting for Mike and Dave……

Well let’s all vote with the newspapers endorsements Skagit…

Commentby Kiroking— 11/5/06@ 4:48 pm

That’s why I said most. Blethen didn’t . . . but my post with “most” is more accurate than yours. Name another. . .

I was talking to one of my classroom parents the other day and we discussing the poor state of education today, esp. among the lower class and even lower middle class. He suggested that it was public policy to keep people stupid . . . might be something to that.

Roger,

I wasn’t arguing that they shouldn’t pay the majority of taxes. Just trying to get a point across to the bone-headed school teacher…………..

I read newspapers everyday. As a matter of fact, I consume them!

Well, they are high in fiber.

If we win big we’ve still got to keep the pressure on these goddamn politicians or they’ll backslide into the comfort of selling out to the big corporations. Muckraking seems to work the best.

The value of humiliating a sellout and at the same time retrieving any of their ill gotten gains is the way to go.

It was Harry Truman who said that any politician who went into politics without money and came out rich is a dishonest politician.

We gotta keep an eye on these toads and hopefully keep the “bully pulpit” of free speech via the internet.

What can we do to further punish Joe Lieberman? When he retires I want him to be a sad and broken man.

I think ending up in hell will be bad enough for the creepy thug.

(the video clip is terrific)

Lizzy Dole, ex beauty queen . . . with the intelligence to screw up the Red Cross? What a catch!

Skagit

Why do you think “others” such a RICH people need to pay your share? Don’t you think the Rich People GIVE? Look at the gates foundation. Are you disappointed that they GIVE tons to OTHER countries who are a hell of alot worse off than us here?

As a school teacher, you of all people should understand the eductation system in this country. If you want a free ride, then hop on a plane to france. But if you want to enjoy the freedoms of the USA, then pay your fair share, and quit trying to suck off the teet of the rich.

There is a real good reason they are RICH, they had opportunities, and they took advantage of them. Tap into your mental resources, and take advantage of your opportunities. But most of all, don’t whine that you are a poor washington teacher(you knew how much you would make when you took the job), just trying to make america a better place and it for the children. It is the choice you made.

Make the best of it, but don’t take away from others because of the choices you made.

114 – Sheer propaganda. Rich people earn loads of income they don’t have to sweat for – there is no reason this income shouldn’t be taxed at a higher rate to level the playing field for all citizens. You wingnuts may have a point when you complain your taxes are too high on money you have to earn but never sabotage the future of your kids by being complicit in passing on government debt to them.

But most of all, don’t whine that you are a poor washington teacher(you knew how much you would make when you took the job),

Where did I whine about my paycheck? I think you could use some remedial reading . . . I’m available if you can afford me.

@80,

“Let’s review. Democrats fought in all our wars. Most of the veterans in Congress are Democrats. 9 of the 10 Iraq war veterans who ran for Congress this year are Democrats. Kerry served two tours in Vietnam, pulled dangerous duty on river patrol boats, was wounded and decorated. Bush was a draft dodger who used family pull to jump the line into a National Guard outfit so he wouldn’t go to Vietnam, then went AWOL from the Guard. Cher, a Hollywood liberal of the type people like you despise, personally donated $150,000 to Operation Helmet and raised public donations to buy battle helmets for our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan they can’t wring out of Bush’s Pentagon.

P.S. – I gave $99 to http://www.operation-helmet.org/ but you haven’t ponied up squat! Until you walk the talk, you’re a fake patriot and a lying POS. “

Once again you lie like a typical liberal.

First of all let’s start with this lie:

“Most of the veterans in Congress are Democrats.” – lying Rabbit

US House of Representatives:

Reps with military service: 24.2%

Breakdown by party:

Republicans with military service: 15.2%
Democrats with military service: 9%
Independants with military service: 0%

Senators with military service: 30%

Republicans with military service: 17%
Democrats with military service: 12%

http://www.whoserved.com/

Now, let’s look at presidents:

Of the last four presidents, only the Republicans have served in teh military.

George W Bush
Military Service: Texas Air National Guard 1968 – 1973

Bill Clinton – NONE. Protested his country during Vietnam war on foreign soil.

George H W Bush

Military Service: Navy 1943 – 1945
Combat Service: World War II

* Was the youngest Naval Aviator at the time at age 18
* Flew combat missions in the Pacific during World War II
* Awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross, Air Medal (x3) and the Presidential Unit Citation

Ronald Reagan

Military Service: Army Reserve 1935 – 1941
Air Force 1941 – 1945

* Initially commissioned as a reserve cavalry officer in the Army in 1935
* Assigned to the First Motion Picture Unit in the United States Army Air Force after the attack on Pearl Harbor in which he made training and education films

So you gave $99 for helmet pads. And like John Kerry trying to pass himself off as a patriot, you never miss an opportunity to mention it either. Well asshole lawyer, I gave $500 to operation support the troops. http://www.operation-support-our-troops.org/ And that is probably one hell of a bigger percentage of my income than what $99 represents to to you asshole.

Perhaps if you liberal scum blocking supplies at the port then maybe they’d get to our troops.

But as we learned recently, you liberals think the troops are all uneducated and dumb and that is how they ended up in Iraq.

Go to bed Truthiness and sleep it off.

Yeah, and they won those major wars in less time than it takes this guy to develop a plan.

“Truth2006”, could please summarize the New Hampshire phone jamming scandal? Thanks so much.

Dear ACORN Democrat cheaters, Democrat Mexican Illegals, New York City Jews who “double” vote Democrat in NYC and Palm Beach, and Democrat Blacks who get bussed to several polls in Milwaukee, Border Patrol with attack dogs, and the MinuteMen will be at EVERY poll to arrest and deport you on Tuesday!! Voter fraud is a capital offense!!! Only English will be spoken!!!!!!!

http://sp-usa.org/

http://www.marxists.org/

http://www.cpusa.org/

http://www.socialistalternative.org/

I think there gona lead sadum out and shoot him on monday to help the republicans get elected tuesday

Vote with your heart. The only chance these United States have to try and regain our once lofty position in the world order is to gut GWB’s rubber stamp congress and hold him accountable. Now is the time to stand up for your rights and vote Democratic.

And stop being a bunch of right-wing closeted homosexual homophobia. Get out of that closet and because a lefty or at lest a log cabin republican you will feel a lot better about your self and you will probably get laid a lot more .

It is not the gay party we don’t like it is the hypocrisy part .

I wuz perty biizzy taday… did jon cary git a perpel hart fer shoting hisef inna foots?

Somebody gottta explain her ads to me…

It’s little surprise to the rest of us that you don’t understand Burner’s ads. After all, you still don’t grok the fact that fractions have both a numerator and a denomnator.

I don’t know why Darcy is only campaigning on the time for change theme.

I think America could stand a little more Republican control. You know, no accountability, no honesty, no integrety, no control, no taking responsibility, no competence, and no end to the lies, corruption, and criminal behavior.

Anyone supporting Reichert has more Denial than the Sahara has sand. The Pacific has water.

“I am Republican – I lie, cheat and steal when I’m not crying about how bad everyone else is or taking money from Mr. Abramhoff (I’d like to suck his cock too)”.- Rep. Bob Ney

What will Kathrine Harris and Anne Coulter talk about if they are in prision together in Florida?

http://wonkette.com/politics/k.....211987.php

http://www.wonkette.com/politi.....211898.php

Sorry, Socialist, but it might just be a bit beyond you as well. We’re talking about rational numbers.

No offense intended. I just couldn’t resist.

Geez, it looks like Algore is full of shit… as usual:

Quoting from the gawd of global warming: “Two thousand scientists, in a hundred countries, engaged in the most elaborate, well organized scientific collaboration in the history of humankind, have produced long-since a consensus that we will face a string of terrible catastrophes unless we act to prepare ourselves and deal with the underlying causes of global warming. Ladies and gentlemen, the warnings about global warming have been extremely clear for a long time. We are facing a global climate crisis. It is deepening. We are entering a period of consequences.” http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0912-32.htm

Let’s see… how many major hurricanes have we had so far this season? Hmmm…. hmmmmmm…. shit… the answer is FUCKING ZERO !!!!!!!

Some “string of terrible catastrophes.” A string of ZERO !!!!!!!

And you fucking idiot kool aid drinkers were all in a lather about his stoopid fucking movie when it came out. Do you feel stoopid now?

Despite his track record of impressive achievements in network technology, he obviously doesn’t know jack shit about science.

I’m calling for Darcy Burner tomorrow — mostly because I really feel like paying more taxes.

It’s fun and the kids love it. Won’t have time for crystal meth and a gay prostitute, though.

Here’s what moonbats are running against:

1) Record high employment.
2) Record low interest rates.
3) Record high stock market
4) Zero attacks since 911
5) Global warming fixed
6) Home ownership at all time high.

Campaigning against peace and prosperity. How’s that going?

Yeah and now that I got my new job at Walmart, I might be able to afford a double wider like yours Mark – things are really looking up. But I’m not worried because I’ll find a way to cheat or steal to make ends meet if need be. Thanks for the Job.

re 28: It’s going great! You know why? Because Bush’s spiritual advisor is a crack smoking whoremonger.

I guess the great news about everything else kind of gets lost when people ponder that.

Nobody mention to Loser Yellowback the constant string of wild fires in California this year because of the very hot drought they are having. We wouldn’t want him to know that it is a system, not just one event, that has been thrown out of skew by global warming.

Sort of like thinking that you accomplish something against Al Qaeda by attacking Iraq.

Sheesh Yellowback, are you just currious what it would be like to be a total idiot, or does it come naturally?

Thought I’d post the latest vote counts before the weekend. 158260 ballots are in in King County.

County___ BallotsCast___ LastMatchback
Adams__ 1974 ballots___ 11/3/2006 10:50:59 AM
Benton__ 21171 ballots___ 11/3/2006 10:50:59 AM
Chelan__ 5981 ballots___ 10/27/2006 4:26:47 PM
Clallam__ 16408 ballots___ 11/3/2006 3:17:49 PM
Clark__ 59383 ballots___ 11/3/2006 5:06:53 PM
Columbia__ 1240 ballots___ 11/3/2006 11:56:15 AM
Cowlitz__ 11770 ballots___ 11/3/2006 11:45:11 AM
Douglas__ 6307 ballots___ 11/2/2006 5:08:57 PM
Ferry__ 1217 ballots___ 11/2/2006 7:16:40 PM
Franklin__ 5495 ballots___ 11/2/2006 5:08:57 PM
Grant__ 9872 ballots___ 11/2/2006 5:08:57 PM
Grays Harbor__ 10769 ballots___ 11/2/2006 12:57:11 PM
Island__ 10750 ballots___ 11/2/2006 5:08:57 PM
Jefferson__ 9229 ballots___ 11/2/2006 2:26:27 PM
King__ 158260 ballots___ 11/3/2006 10:50:59 AM
Kitsap__ 43861 ballots___ 11/2/2006 7:16:40 PM
Kittitas__ 5237 ballots___ 11/2/2006 7:16:40 PM
Klickitat__ 388 ballots___ 10/23/2006 7:11:58 PM
lewis__ 13246 ballots___ 11/3/2006 10:50:59 AM
Lincoln__ 2562 ballots___ 11/3/2006 10:50:59 AM
Mason__ 10964 ballots___ 11/2/2006 10:12:48 PM
Okanogan__ 6901 ballots___ 11/2/2006 5:08:57 PM
Pacific__ 2740 ballots___ 11/2/2006 7:16:40 PM
Pierce__ 75660 ballots___ 11/3/2006 4:06:36 PM
San Juan__ 3606 ballots___ 11/2/2006 12:00:11 PM
Skagit__ 22634 ballots___ 11/3/2006 3:58:52 PM
Snohomish__ 79346 ballots___ 11/3/2006 4:47:51 PM
Spokane__ 89504 ballots___ 11/3/2006 4:47:27 PM
Stevens__ 4652 ballots___ 10/31/2006 2:59:15 PM
Thurston__ 37385 ballots___ 11/3/2006 11:45:11 AM
Wahkiakum__ 1049 ballots___ 11/2/2006 8:10:14 PM
Walla Walla__ 7130 ballots___ 11/3/2006 5:16:28 PM
Whatcom__ 35193 ballots___ 11/3/2006 5:13:17 PM
Whitman__ 6149 ballots___ 11/2/2006 6:49:10 PM
Yakima__ 28083 ballots___ 11/2/2006 8:15:51 PM

You know the other day I said on the news that I didn’t know a Mike Jones, but you know now that I think of it he’s the guy who gave me my massage – you see, I pulled a muscle jogging so I needed a massage (my fat whore wife wouldn’t do it)and Rush Limbaugh told me how crystal meth would help out the pulled muscle too, but when I found out its what the black people take, I prayed to Jesus and decided the pain would be better. Amen. And Hail Hitler!

And how can you be against people who go around “buying whores and drug dealers to spew their garbage.” Without that, there would be no talk radio for wingnuts.

Commentby JDB— 11/3/06@ 8:00 pm

Damn, you make it sound like they are taking money from little boys and girls and then turning around and claiming bankruptcy. Hey that sounds familiar. hehehehee

Here is what Loser Yellowback supports:

1) Killing American Soldiers

2) Incompetently run wars

3) Manipulating Intelligence

4) Spying on Americans

5) Getting rid of Habeas Corpus

6) Never firing those who mess up their job, better to give them the medal of freedom

7) Terrible growth in real wages

8) Gigantic debts and deficits

9) Never investigating wrong doing.

10) Molesting teenage boys

11) Doing meth before getting it on with a male prostitute

Loser, why do you hate America so?

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Hey I admire you up there in KC. You just flat out steal elections with no questions asked. Why the hell do you think we got Logan down here now. Why go out and have illegals vote when you can just find a bag or two of ballots.

Here’s what rightwing traitors are running on:

1) Record high under-employment
2) A reduction in earning power
3) A stock market that’s hardly any better off than it was six years ago when Baby Bush stole his office.
4) Unsolved anthrax attacks since 911
5) Highest trade deficits in history
6) Highest trade deficits in history
7) A world that’s less safe because of the war in Iraq (according to Bush’s own intel)

I can tell you how that’s going for the righties….just look at the polls. They’re getting their asses kicked.

How’s it feel to be a traitor, a closeted gay republican man, a coward AND to be on the looooosing side Mark The Cowardly Redneck?

5) Getting rid of Habeas Corpus

Ooooh the horror. geeesh. hehehehe

If you are talking about the ‘04 election, you have been mis-informed. A judge found that the only illegal votes were for Dino Rossi, the Republican. But fortunately the system worked, so they were not able to “steal” the election as you say. So you shouldn’t accuse them of that like you do.

Commentby JDB— 11/3/06@ 8:20 pm

You mean the ballots they found at the second….. wait was that the second count….. no Rossi won….. oh that is right the third count were all illegal votes for Rossi? Wow that is news to me.

Silly Francine, those were legal votes. As the Judge said. Remember, Rossi would not appeal that decision. And that is why you have recounts, to find votes that should have been counted but were not.

Funny how all those votes went to one candidate…. wait no it isnt. hehehehe Keep on spreading frosting on that turd of an election. You guys up there are awesome though. You put Chicago to shame. heheehe

re 58: Well. We won and you lost. Do you get it now? I sure hope you do because if your side pulls another Diebold stunt there’s gonna be blood in the streets.

Commentby harry poon— 11/3/06@ 8:43 pm

Better get ready. This Tuesday you will be blaming it on diebold. Better be careful what you wish for, republicans carry guns.

Comrade Francine:

Funny how they were not all for one candidate. They broke the same as King County as a whole. Just as you would expect.

Perhaps you should know something ’bout what you are saying next time. Go read Judge Bridge’s opinion. Here’s the link:

http://www.seattleweekly.com/n.....cision.php

And here is a good time line of events:

http://www.nwprogressive.org/p.....lenge.html

I know facts are not a big thing to Republicans, but you might find knowing the truth to be more interesting than repeating old, discredited GOP talking points.

re 59: So does everyone else. Having a gun is a lot different than using it.

Bill Maher was Awesome tonight (comes back on later)
The opening skit is perfect, but the final new rule rocks.

PS I haven’t read the string, but go to hell you Nazi’s anyway.

REPUBLICAN TRIES TO KILL IRAQ FRAUD INVESTIGATIONS

“Senators Push to Keep Iraq Fraud Investigator
“By ANNE PLUMMER FLAHERTY
“AP

“WASHINGTON (Nov. 3) – Senate supporters of an investigator’s office that has unearthed waste and fraud in the rebuilding of Iraq say they will try to keep it alive, setting up a potential showdown with a Republican lawmaker who helped pass legislation to shut it down. …

“The agency’s work has resulted in four criminal convictions and, most recently, evidence that a Halliburton subsidiary exploited federal regulations to hide details on its contract performance. …

Earlier this year, (Sen.) Collins pushed through the Senate a measure that would … (keep) the IG office in business. But that provision … was stripped … (by) Rep. Duncan Hunter, chairman of the House Armed Services Committee. …

“Democrats said the office was being killed by Hunter, R-Calif., and other administration loyalists to bury bad news.”

This article is quoted under Fair Use; for complete story and/or copyright info, vote for me or click on http://tinyurl.com/yf9hqc

Roger Rabbit Comment: Only 4 more days! Investigations! Subpoenas! Frog Marches! Trials! Pink Jumpsuits!

Mike?! McGavick is the problem, not the solution

Would Mike?! McGavick LIE about ratting out a bus driver with a twitchy finger like Rubberstamp Reichert did? I bet he would! He LIED about privatizing Social Security and he LIED about Cantwell raising taxes on Social Security benefits! You just can’t trust Republican liars.

Mike?! is the problem, not the solution.

Comrade Francine:

No, really, read the links I gave you. Many other counties found votes too. Strangely enought, the most populous county found the most votes. But per capita, there were many Rossi Counties that found more.

Come on. Are you completely ignorant. Even the most foolish of U(sp)poster gave up on these old arguements a long time ago.

Commentby JDB— 11/3/06@ 9:34 pm

Yeah, most other counties found maybe one or two. How did KC do in reconciling votes cast to registered voters? hehehehe

Rep. Nancy Pelosi (sf.nancy@mail.house.gov), U.S. House of Representatives

If you feel strongly about this issue, we encourage you to ask your friends and family to vote on it at this link: http://www.vote.com/vote/60426681/index.phtml

This week, Ted Kennedy and John Kerry dumped $1 million from their campaign war chests into Democrat coffers. They answered the call of liberal groups who are pressing Democrats to pour tens of millions into a final push to gain control of Congress.

Andrew Sullivan: This isn’t an election – it’s an INTERVENTION!

Sorry Reichart and McGavick – maybe in saner times you could get elected – but not now.

Let’s recap:

Winner of 2004 governor election: http://tinyurl.com/vsddr
Loser of 2004 governor election: http://tinyurl.com/bz8kv

“It’s sad. So sad.
It’s a sad, sad situation
And it’s getting more and more absurd
It’s sad. So sad. Why can’t we talk it over?
Oh it seems to me
Sorry seems to be the hardest word.”
— Elton John

What is wrong with John Kerry? What is missing from the Massachusetts senator’s makeup that will not allow him to admit that he’s human? And why did he wait so long to clean up a political mess that hurt his party in the short run and damaged his own long-term presidential prospects?

This is, after all, a guy who called the secret service member assigned to protect his life a “son of a bitch” for colliding with him on a ski slope. When asked later by a reporter about falling down, Kerry angrily declared, “I do not fall down.”

1st recount: Gregoire +1289, Rossi +1070, Bennett +69
2nd recount: Gregoire +919, Rossi +784, Bennett +49

Funny how ALL 3 candidates GAINED votes!

So gregoire got more vote on both counts. Whoah what are the odds. Were they counting the same ballots from the first count? There were more ballots added in KC on the second recount. Actually quite a bit more. Did you find out how far off KC was on the reconcillation between votes cast and registered voters? Just more evidence that KC stole the election.

It doesnt matter in the long. At least the right man won the Presidency in 2000 and 2004 despite rampant voter fraud from the dems in both elections.

Stop the presses. Bill O’Reilly is lashing out at the New York Times.

But this time the King of Cable News is not going after the Newspaper of Record for slanted news coverage on Iraq, Republican scandals or culture wars. This time O’Reilly’s angst is reserved for the Times’ book review staff.

The man who built Fox News primetime into a ratings juggernaut is a hard guy to ignore. O’Reilly is everywhere.

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O’Liely’s ratings are in the toilet.

I but the wingnuts didn’t bother to watch HBO last night with the voting lines a half mile long in metropolitan areas of Ohio, and voting machines galore in rural Ohio. As long as Bush won (sic) that’s all that counts right wingnuts? A couple million uncounted Kerry votes boo hoo right? Stealing Americans right to vote is the worst crime I can think of. That and protecting pedophiles.

Fascist Traitors.

Americans are sick of Republican Scum.

Even Republicans are sick of Republican Scum.

I should know, I used to be one of them.

I think Vlad the Impaler has the proper treatment for the disease of being Republican.

I think impalement is too good for the average Republican. The crime of treason, which is what calling yourself a Republican these days amounts to should carry a penalty far worse than impalement.

Maybe Ted Haggard could get some moral support from Jim West…..

I have Jeff Gannon’s number Ted. Got any crank?

What is really funny is how Republicans worship tax dollars (cuts) (deferrments actually) more than anything, but can’t stand the thought of one single auditor in Iraq……

The Republican’s only true god is THEIR OWN GREED!

BOSTON — By now you may think that “San Francisco Liberal” is her last name. “Nancy Pelosi San Francisco Liberal” is being used to frighten voters everywhere from Indiana to Georgia to Scarborough Country. She’s caricatured as “Michael Moore,” “a specter hanging like a cloud over America,” and a woman waiting to rule the country with “illegal immigrants” and a “radical homosexual agenda.”

But if being demonized is the price for power, Pelosi is willing to pay it. The Democratic leader may not be renowned for delivering the party message, but she’s great at keeping the House Democrats on message. And if they win a majority next week, she will become the first woman speaker of the House, two heartbeats away from the presidency.

Wow! Goldy posted nothing and this thread already has over 100 comments! That’s more than the pathetic little competing blog gets even when Stefan posts something.

By Kevin Tillman

Editor’s note: Kevin Tillman joined the Army with his brother Pat in 2002, and they served together in Iraq and Afghanistan. Pat was killed in Afghanistan on April 22, 2004. Kevin, who was discharged in 2005, has written a powerful, must-read document:

It is Pat’s birthday on November 6, and elections are the day after. It gets me thinking about a conversation I had with Pat before we joined the military. He spoke about the risks with signing the papers. How once we committed, we were at the mercy of the American leadership and the American people. How we could be thrown in a direction not of our volition. How fighting as a soldier would leave us without a voice… until we get out.
Much has happened since we handed over our voice:
Somehow we were sent to invade a nation because it was a direct threat to the American people, or to the world, or harbored terrorists, or was involved in the September 11 attacks, or received weapons-grade uranium from Niger, or had mobile weapons labs, or WMD, or had a need to be liberated, or we needed to establish a democracy, or stop an insurgency, or stop a civil war we created that can’t be called a civil war even though it is. Something like that.

Somehow America has become a country that projects everything that it is not and condemns everything that it is.

Somehow our elected leaders were subverting international law and humanity by setting up secret prisons around the world, secretly kidnapping people, secretly holding them indefinitely, secretly not charging them with anything, secretly torturing them. Somehow that overt policy of torture became the fault of a few “bad apples” in the military.

Somehow back at home, support for the soldiers meant having a five-year-old kindergartener scribble a picture with crayons and send it overseas, or slapping stickers on cars, or lobbying Congress for an extra pad in a helmet. It’s interesting that a soldier on his third or fourth tour should care about a drawing from a five-year-old; or a faded sticker on a car as his friends die around him; or an extra pad in a helmet, as if it will protect him when an IED throws his vehicle 50 feet into the air as his body comes apart and his skin melts to the seat.
Somehow the more soldiers that die, the more legitimate the illegal invasion becomes.
Somehow American leadership, whose only credit is lying to its people and illegally invading a nation, has been allowed to steal the courage, virtue and honor of its soldiers on the ground.
Somehow those afraid to fight an illegal invasion decades ago are allowed to send soldiers to die for an illegal invasion they started.
Somehow faking character, virtue and strength is tolerated.
Somehow profiting from tragedy and horror is tolerated.
Somehow the death of tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of people is tolerated.
Somehow subversion of the Bill of Rights and The Constitution is tolerated.
Somehow suspension of Habeas Corpus is supposed to keep this country safe.
Somehow torture is tolerated.
Somehow lying is tolerated.
Somehow reason is being discarded for faith, dogma, and nonsense.
Somehow American leadership managed to create a more dangerous world.
Somehow a narrative is more important than reality.
Somehow America has become a country that projects everything that it is not and condemns everything that it is.
Somehow the most reasonable, trusted and respected country in the world has become one of the most irrational, belligerent, feared, and distrusted countries in the world.
Somehow being politically informed, diligent, and skeptical has been replaced by apathy through active ignorance.
Somehow the same incompetent, narcissistic, virtueless, vacuous, malicious criminals are still in charge of this country.
Somehow this is tolerated.
Somehow nobody is accountable for this.
In a democracy, the policy of the leaders is the policy of the people. So don’t be shocked when our grandkids bury much of this generation as traitors to the nation, to the world and to humanity. Most likely, they will come to know that “somehow” was nurtured by fear, insecurity and indifference, leaving the country vulnerable to unchecked, unchallenged parasites.
Luckily this country is still a democracy. People still have a voice. People still can take action. It can start after Pat’s birthday.

Brother and Friend of Pat Tillman,
Kevin Tillman

We live in a world of curious euphemisms. There are things we want to say at times but cannot. So we say them in different ways.

For instance, whenever we say Pakistan, what we really mean is Muslim. When we say Pakistan is behind something, what we actually mean is: These Muslims are behind it. But since it’s still politically incorrect to blame an entire community, and a minority one at that, we blame it on Pakistan. Pakistan , to the average Indian, incorrectly I dare say, represents all that is wrong with Islam. Every time we blame Pakistan, we are actually blaming Muslims.

For we, or at least a very large section among us, are veering around to the belief that a secular India is not a place for Muslims- for Muslims owe allegiance, first and foremost to Islam, not to any nation.

While this may not be entirely true, as I know many Muslims who swear by India and secularism just as I know many Arabs who swear by Palestine, not Islam, the truth is also that, worldwide, Muslims appear to be firming up in their belief that their faith is more important than their nationality. That Allah is more important than India or UK or Saudi Arabia. We read about this daily. We watch it on TV.

Republicans have betrayed America, our soldiers, and the voters.

Two years later and the gooper crybabies are still whining about losing an election. Sore loooooosers! Sheesh. Grow up.

… and Mark1 calls ME “juvenile and immature”?

(sarcastic bunny laughter)

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And if they win a majority next week, she will become the first woman speaker of the House, two impeachments away from the presidency.

President Pelosi. Get used to saying it!

HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR

There’s nothing the cheap labor conservatives would like better than to get their riches tax-free!

No income tax. No capital gains tax. No estate tax. No tax, period.

And they didn’t work for it. It came from other people’s work. The whole point of being a Republican is to live off other people’s labor so you don’t have to work!

This is worth repeating:

Editorial
The Great Divider
Published: November 2, 2006

As President Bush throws himself into the final days of a particularly nasty campaign season, he’s settled into a familiar pattern of ugly behavior. Since he can’t defend the real world created by his policies and his decisions, Mr. Bush is inventing a fantasy world in which to campaign on phony issues against fake enemies.

In Mr. Bush’s world, America is making real progress in Iraq. In the real world, as Michael Gordon reported in yesterday’s Times, the index that generals use to track developments shows an inexorable slide toward chaos. In Mr. Bush’s world, his administration is marching arm in arm with Iraqi officials committed to democracy and to staving off civil war. In the real world, the prime minister of Iraq orders the removal of American checkpoints in Baghdad and abets the sectarian militias that are slicing and dicing their country.

In Mr. Bush’s world, there are only two kinds of Americans: those who are against terrorism, and those who somehow are all right with it. Some Americans want to win in Iraq and some don’t. There are Americans who support the troops and Americans who don’t support the troops. And at the root of it all is the hideously damaging fantasy that there is a gulf between Americans who love their country and those who question his leadership.

Mr. Bush has been pushing these divisive themes all over the nation, offering up the ludicrous notion the other day that if Democrats manage to control even one house of Congress, America will lose and the terrorists will win. But he hit a particularly creepy low when he decided to distort a lame joke lamely delivered by Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts. Mr. Kerry warned college students that the punishment for not learning your lessons was to “get stuck in Iraq.” In context, it was obviously an attempt to disparage Mr. Bush’s intelligence. That’s impolitic and impolite, but it’s not as bad as Mr. Bush’s response. Knowing full well what Mr. Kerry meant, the president and his team cried out that the senator was disparaging the troops. It was a depressing replay of the way the Bush campaign Swift-boated Americans in 2004 into believing that Mr. Kerry, who went to war, was a coward and Mr. Bush, who stayed home, was a hero.

It’s not the least bit surprising or objectionable that Mr. Bush would hit the trail hard at this point, trying to salvage his party’s control of Congress and, by extension, his last two years in office. And we’re not naïve enough to believe that either party has been running a positive campaign that focuses on the issues.

But when candidates for lower office make their opponents out to be friends of Osama bin Laden, or try to turn a minor gaffe into a near felony, that’s just depressing. When the president of the United States gleefully bathes in the muck to divide Americans into those who love their country and those who don’t, it is destructive to the fabric of the nation he is supposed to be leading.

This is hardly the first time that Mr. Bush has played the politics of fear, anger and division; if he’s ever missed a chance to wave the bloody flag of 9/11, we can’t think of when. But Mr. Bush’s latest outbursts go way beyond that. They leave us wondering whether this president will ever be willing or able to make room for bipartisanship, compromise and statesmanship in the two years he has left in office.

http://tinyurl.com/u7q98

(Quoted under Fair Use)

you have been out drinking with the lma agien haven;t you rabit

Well I guess it is friday night :-)

The estate tax deserves to be repealed. Vote “yes” on I-920.

Commentby For the Clueless— 11/3/06@ 10:17 pm

Yep, did that.

I just won’t put up with any more.

Commentby harry poon— 11/3/06@ 10:21 pm

Hold that thought. Let’s see how you feel Wednesday morning. Ah that is going to be funny. heheehe

Mike?! McGavick is a Republican (although he doesn’t want you to know that).

Really, so he acts like a tax and spender? Yeah right. I voted for him as well. On Tuesday I am oging to vote for him again in KC. Hey if the dems can vote twice why cant we.

The Churches are just big business’s. The like of Haggard, Dobson, Falwell and Robertson selling fear of a life after.
They are just like the Life insurance industry, selling crap that does you no good in this life. All the while the executives are lining their pockets….and it’s TAX FREE. Maybe it’s the best business going, but just a business.

re 123: If giving the rich tax breaks means we actually collect more taxes, then not taxing them at all would mean that nobody would have to pay taxes.

If the rich did not contribute to charities,charities would collect more money.

Go a head a vote twice buttnuts and you will end up in jail like man coulter.

Commentby The Socialist— 11/3/06@ 11:00 pm

No I won’t, I found a Kerry/Edwards button. heehhee

There should be no inheritance tax so that wealth can be concentrated in fewer and fewer hands.

That’s patriotism.

yeh but if you show up with a kerry edwards button some right wing goon will think you are a demercrat beat you up to keep you from voting butnutz

I would like to see the end of privit property

But what I don’t like about him is his hypocrisy. I think the worst punishment for a man like that would be to TAX HIS ASS OFF!

Can you imagine the uproar in this country if John Kerry’s pastor turned out to be what Tim Haggard is? You’d never hear the end of it.

from the SPUSA Statement of Principles
The SOCIALIST PARTY strives to establish a radical democracy that places people’s lives under their own control — a non-racist, classless, feminist, socialist society in which people cooperate at work, at home, and in the community…A society based on radical democracy, with power exercised through people’s organizations, requires a socialist transformation from below. People’s organizations cannot be created by legislation, nor can they spring into being only on the eve of a revolution…Our tactics in the struggle for radical democratic change reflect our ultimate goal of a society founded on principles of egalitarian, non-exploitative and non-violent relations among all people and between all peoples…Our aim is the creation of a new social order, a society in which the commanding value is the infinite preciousness of every woman, man and child

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How have republicans betrayed the soldiers? They are not the party trying to keep them from voting. Commentby Francine Busby-Democrat Cali— 11/3/06@ 10:45 pm

Want to bet?*

* (Given the lousy track record of trolls in paying off lost bets, all bets made by trolls must be backed by cash in escrow.)

“AFRICAN-AMERICAN SOLDIERS SCRUBBED BY SECRET GOP HIT LIST

“by Greg Palast
“As reported for Democracy Now!

“The Republican National Committee has a special offer for African-American soldiers: Go to Baghdad, lose your vote.

“A confidential campaign directed by GOP party chiefs in October 2004 sought to challenge the ballots of tens of thousands of voters in the last presidential election, virtually all of them cast by residents of Black-majority precincts.

“Files from the secret vote-blocking campaign were obtained by BBC Television Newsnight, London. They were attached to emails accidentally sent by Republican operatives to a non-party website.

“One group of voters wrongly identified by the Republicans as registering to vote from false addresses: servicemen and women sent overseas.

“Here’s how the scheme worked: The RNC mailed these voters letters in envelopes marked, ‘Do not forward’, to be returned to the sender. These letters were mailed to servicemen and women, some stationed overseas, to their US home addresses. The letters then returned to the Bush-Cheney campaign as ‘undeliverable.’

“The lists of soldiers of ‘undeliverable’ letters were transmitted from state headquarters, in this case Florida, to the RNC in Washington. The party could then challenge the voters’ registration and thereby prevent their absentee ballots being counted.

“One target list was comprised exclusively of voters registered at the Jacksonville, Florida, Naval Air Station. Jacksonville is third largest naval installation in the US, best known as home of the Blue Angels fighting squandron.

[See this scrub sheet at http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.g.....038;size=o ]

“Our team contacted the homes of several on the caging list, such as Randall Prausa, a serviceman, whose wife said he had been ordered overseas.

“A soldier returning home in time to vote in November 2004 could also be challenged on the basis of the returned envelope. …

“The BBC obtained several dozen confidential emails sent by the Republican’s national Research Director and Deputy Communications chief, Tim Griffin to GOP Florida campaign chairman Brett Doster and other party leaders. Attached were spreadsheets marked, ‘Caging.xls.’ Each of these contained several hundred to a few thousand voters and their addresses.

“A check of the demographics of the addresses on the ‘caging lists,’ as the GOP leaders called them indicated that most were in African-American majority zip codes.

“Ion Sanco, the non-partisan elections supervisor of Leon County (Tallahassee) when shown the lists … said: ‘The only thing I can think of – African American voters listed like this – these might be individuals that will be challenged if they attempted to vote on Election Day.’

“These GOP caging lists were obtained by the same BBC team that first exposed the wrongful purge of African-American ‘felon’ voters in 2000 by … Katherine Harris. Eliminating the voting rights of those voters — 94,000 were targeted — likely caused Al Gore’s defeat in that race.

“The Republican National Committee in Washington refused our several requests to respond to the BBC discovery. However, in Tallahassee, the Florida Bush campaign’s spokespeople offered several explanations for the list.

“Joseph Agostini, speaking for the GOP, suggested the lists were of potential donors to the Bush campaign. Oddly, the supposed donor list included residents of the Sulzbacher Center a shelter for homeless families.

“Another spokesperson for the Bush campaign, Mindy Tucker Fletcher, ultimately changed the official response, acknowledging that these were voters, ‘we mailed to, where the letter came back – bad addresses.’

“The party has refused to say why it would mark soldiers as having ‘bad addresses’ subject to challenge when they had been assigned abroad. …

“The GOP mailed the letters first class, at a total cost likely exceeding millions of dollars, so that the addresses would be returned to ‘cage’ workers.

“’This is not a challenge list,’ insisted the Republican spokesmistress. However, she modified that assertion by adding, ‘That’s not what it’s set up to be.’

“Setting up such a challenge list would be a crime under federal law. The Voting Rights Act of 1965 outlaws mass challenges of voters where race is a factor in choosing the targeted group.

“While the party insisted the lists were not created for the purpose to challenge Black voters, the GOP ultimately offered no other explanation for the mailings. However, Tucker Fletcher asserted Republicans could still employ the list to deny ballots to those they considered suspect voters. When asked if Republicans would use the list to block voters, Tucker Fletcher replied, ‘Where it’s stated in the law, yeah.’

“It is not possible at this time to determine how many on the potential blacklist were ultimately challenged and lost their vote. Soldiers sending in their ballot from abroad would not know their vote was lost because of a challenge.

“For the full story of caging lists and voter purges of 2004, plus the documents, read Greg Palast’s New York Times bestseller, ARMED MADHOUSE: Who’s Afraid of Osama Wolf?”

http://tinyurl.com/jv9nf

Got any more smartass cracks about military votes, “Francine”? Let me ask you something.

Why do Republicans work so hard to keep American soldiers from voting in their own country, yet they’re willing to squander those same soldiers’ lives to give “democracy” to Iraqis?

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GOP READIES CHALLENGE TO TENN. VOTE

Republicans, anticipating a loss in Tennessee, aren’t waiting for election day to claim voting fraud.

“(T)he GOP is planning to declare fraud after next Tuesday’s election. As initially linked by DRUDGE (which should tell you almost all you need to know) earlier today, the GOP is laying the groundwork:

“Several electronic voting cards, used to cast ballots, are missing from a polling place in Memphis, according to the Tennessee Republican Party.

“In a letter to the Shelby County Election Commission, state GOP chairman Bob Davis Jr. charges the ‘lack of oversight and control’ over the so-called Smartcards ‘has created a situation which could allow for voter fraud.’

“The situation is not ‘lack of oversight and control’ of these smart cards. It’s lack of oversight and control of our electoral system such that we’ve come to a place where there are so many access points to the system, it’s virtually impossible, with this equipment, to have any kind of security that could ensure a legitimate vote.

“You’ll also note this unsubstantiated allegation from the AP coverage of the claims in TN:

“Davis sent his letter one day after Gibbons said he asked the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation to look into allegations two people each cast two ballots during early voting in Shelby County.

“Looks like the GOP is in good shape in Tennesse at this point. If they lose, they can make whatever claims they like: Fraud by Electronic Voting, or Voter Fraud by those nasty double-voting Dems. … ”

BLOGGED BY Brad ON 11/3/2006 5:58PM PT

http://www.bradblog.com/

I almost don’t dare hope for it, but it appears that the right may indeed lose control of Congress next Tuesday. If so, they’ve brought it on themselves by believing their own bullshit.

Seattle Post-Intelligencer Editorials for this Sunday:

General election endorsements. Notice that they are not making any endorsement in the Northeast District Court race:

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/.....raped.html

My opponent sent out a mailer to promote his candidacy and knock mine. His mailer prominently featured excerpts from the 09/24/2006 Seattle P-I editorial, where they commented on my first place finish in the primary. Given all that, it is very interesting that they have decided that his candidacy isn’t worthy of endorsement either.

In other views, the Seattle P-I comments on the lawsuit over special education funding, and the anemic approach to education funding in this state in general:

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/.....suited.asp

RECRUITERS TELL KIDS IRAQ WAR IS OVER

From ABC News:

Cameras Show Army Recruiters Misleading Students

(Nov. 3) — An ABC News undercover investigation showed Army recruiters telling students that the war in Iraq was over, in an effort to get them to enlist.

ABC News and New York affiliate WABC equipped students with hidden video cameras before they visited 10 Army recruitment offices in New York, New Jersey and Connecticut.

“Nobody is going over to Iraq anymore?” one student asks a recruiter.

“No, we’re bringing people back,” he replies. “We’re not at war. War ended a long time ago,” another recruiter says. …

One Colorado student taped a recruiting session posing as a drug-addicted dropout. … The recruiters … helped him cheat to sign up.

During the ABC News sessions, some recruiters told our students if they enlisted, there would be little chance they’d to go Iraq. But Col. Robert Manning, who is in charge of U.S. Army recruiting for the entire Northeast, said that new recruits were likely to go to Iraq. …

ABC News found one recruiter who even claimed if you didn’t like the Army, you could just quit. …”

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I see the P-I endorsed Darcy.

LOL! Pope-A-Dope you really are impressed with yourself aren’t you. Your shit little race doesn’t warrant the attention of an endorsement. Besides they sure weren’t gonna endorse you so be thankful.

I predict this will be number 15 on your list of failed attempts. But hey, you got close once. That can be your fish that got away story.

Had an interesting conversation with a bar owner last weekend. His lawyer and he are planning on getting payment from the state for the smoking ban if I-933 passes.

To Roger Rabbit and his friends, there are only two worlds left: terrorist free or terrorist controlled. Apparently are for the latter. Why? Below is an article with real names, not one with anonymous entries from unnamed sources!

“Terrorists love Democrats: “By Aaron Klein
© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

JERUSALEM – Everybody has an opinion about next Tuesday’s midterm congressional election in the U.S. – including senior terrorist leaders interviewed by WND who say they hope Americans sweep the Democrats into power because of the party’s position on withdrawing from Iraq, a move, as they see it, that ensures victory for the worldwide Islamic resistance.

The terrorists told WorldNetDaily an electoral win for the Democrats would prove to them Americans are “tired.”

They rejected statements from some prominent Democrats in the U.S. that a withdrawal from Iraq would end the insurgency, explaining an evacuation would prove resistance works and would compel jihadists to continue fighting until America is destroyed. Of course, donk and islamofascists think alike!

They said a withdrawal would also embolden their own terror groups to enhance “resistance” against Israel.

“Of course Americans should vote Democrat,” Jihad Jaara, a senior member of the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades terror group and the infamous leader of the 2002 siege of Bethlehem’s Church of the Nativity, told WND.

“This is why American Muslims will support the Democrats, because there is an atmosphere in America that encourages those who want to withdraw from Iraq. It is time that the American people support those who want to take them out of this Iraqi mud,” said Jaara, speaking to WND from exile in Ireland, where he was sent as part of an internationally brokered deal that ended the church siege.

Jaara was the chief in Bethlehem of the Brigades, the declared “military wing” of Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas’ Fatah party.

Together with the Islamic Jihad terror group, the Brigades has taken responsibility for every suicide bombing inside Israel the past two years, including an attack in Tel Aviv in April that killed American teenager Daniel Wultz and nine Israelis.

Muhammad Saadi, a senior leader of Islamic Jihad in the northern West Bank town of Jenin, said the Democrats’ talk of withdrawal from Iraq makes him feel “proud.”

“As Arabs and Muslims we feel proud of this talk,” he told WND. “Very proud from the great successes of the Iraqi resistance. This success that brought the big superpower of the world to discuss a possible withdrawal.”

Abu Abdullah, a leader of Hamas’ military wing in the Gaza Strip, said the policy of withdrawal “proves the strategy of the resistance is the right strategy against the occupation.”

“We warned the Americans that this will be their end in Iraq,” said Abu Abdullah, considered one of the most important operational members of Hamas’ Izzedine al-Qassam Martyrs Brigades, Hamas’ declared “resistance” department. “They did not succeed in stealing Iraq’s oil, at least not at a level that covers their huge expenses. They did not bring stability. Their agents in the [Iraqi] regime seem to have no chance to survive if the Americans withdraw.”

Abu Ayman, an Islamic Jihad leader in Jenin, said he is “emboldened” by those in America who compare the war in Iraq to Vietnam.

“[The mujahedeen fighters] brought the Americans to speak for the first time seriously and sincerely that Iraq is becoming a new Vietnam and that they should fix a schedule for their withdrawal from Iraq,” boasted Abu Ayman.

The terror leaders spoke as the debate regarding the future of America’s war in Iraq has perhaps become the central theme of midterm elections, with most Democrats urging a timetable for withdrawal and Republicans mostly advocating staying the course in Iraq.

President Bush has even said he would send more troops if Gen. George Casey, the top U.S. commander in Baghdad, said they are needed to stabilize the region

The debate became especially poignant following remarks by Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., the 2004 presidential candidate who voted in support of the war in Iraq. Earlier this week he intimated American troops are uneducated, and it is the uneducated who “get stuck in Iraq.”

Kerry, under intense pressure from fellow Democrats, now says his remarks were a “botched joke.”

Terror leaders reject Nancy Pelosi’s comments on Iraqi insurgency

Many Democratic politicians and some from the Republican Party have stated a withdrawal from Iraq would end the insurgency there.

In a recent interview with CBS’s “60 Minutes,” House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, stated, “The jihadists (are) in Iraq. But that doesn’t mean we stay there. They’ll stay there as long as we’re there.”

Islamic Jihad’s Saadi, laughing, stated, “There is no chance that the resistance will stop.” – Moonbats how come the CNNs of the world could not find these Muslims? Or I think they didn’t want to show America the real enemy. They were scooped!

He said an American withdrawal from Iraq would “prove the resistance is the most important tool and that this tool works. The victory of the Iraqi revolution will mark an important step in the history of the region and in the attitude regarding the United States.”

Jihad Jaara said an American withdrawal would “mark the beginning of the collapse of this tyrant empire (America).”

“Therefore, a victory in Iraq would be a greater defeat for America than in Vietnam.”

Jaara said vacating Iraq would also “reinforce Palestinian resistance organizations, especially from the moral point of view. But we also learn from these (insurgency) movements militarily. We look and learn from them.”

Hamas’ Abu Abdullah argued a withdrawal from Iraq would “convince those among the Palestinians who still have doubts in the efficiency of the resistance.” Did you say cut and run emboldens their resistance?

“The victory of the resistance in Iraq would prove once more that when the will and the faith are applied victory is not only a slogan. We saw that in Lebanon (during Israel’s confrontation against Hezbollah there in July and August); we saw it in Gaza (after Israel withdrew from the territory last summer) and we will see it everywhere there is occupation,” Abdullah said.

While the terror leaders each independently urged American citizens to vote for Democratic candidates, not all believed the Democrats would actually carry out a withdrawal from Iraq.

Saadi stated, “Unfortunately I think those who are speaking about a withdrawal will not do so when they are in power and these promises will remain electoral slogans. It is not enough to withdraw from Iraq. They must withdraw from Afghanistan and from every Arab and Muslim land they occupy or have bases.”

He called both Democrats and Republicans “agents of the Zionist lobby in the U.S.”

Abu Abdullah commented once Democrats are in power “the question is whether such a courageous leadership can [withdraw]. I am afraid that even after the American people will elect those who promise to leave Iraq, the U.S. will not do so. I tell the American people vote for withdrawal. Abandon Israel if you want to save America. Now will this Happen? I do not believe it.”

Still Jihad Jaara said the alternative is better than Bush’s party.

“Bush is a sick person, an alcoholic person that has no control of what is going on around him. He calls to send more troops but will very soon get to the conviction that the violence and terror that his war machine is using in Iraq will never impose policies and political regimes in the Arab world.” – Now where did he hear that except from the fringe moonbats!

Next for your review Roger Rabbit. This is the real world. Something you and your furballettes do not live in:

“ELECTION 2006
Lawmaker: Terrorists
right about Democrats
GOP congressman reacts to militants’
endorsement of ‘party of cut-and-run’

——————————————————————————–
Posted: November 3, 2006
12:41 p.m. Eastern

© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo.

Leaders of Mideast terrorist organizations such as the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades and Islamic Jihad are right – in one way, according to Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo.

Terrorists interviewed by WorldNetDaily suggested Americans should vote for Democrats Tuesday, because the party’s plan to remove U.S. troops from the Mideast would hand their factions victory.

Tancredo today told WND the assessment is hard to dispute.

“I guess the conclusion to which anyone could come … maybe they recognize that both the general nature of the Democratic Party and the people who are at its head are folks that would rather cut and run than stand their ground on an issue of this nature,” he said.

“They’re right. I also worry about a lot of things, the way the war has been prosecuted. But beyond Iraq, here’s what I believe. I believe that there are more Republicans than Democrats that understand we are in a clash of civilizations.

“In fact the idea that Western civilization has advantages over other civilizations, that is not a concept that most Democrats would buy into, and I think the radical Islamic groups recognize that,” he said.

Multiple messages left over the course of two days seeking comment from the Democratic National Committee, the Democratic Leadership Council, the offices of Sens. Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton and others were not returned to WND.

The Republican National Committee also did not return a message asking for comment.

The president’s recent statements also have given the terrorists reason to hope for better results should the Democrat Party leadership be in power rather than the existing decision-makers.

“The fighting in Iraq is tough, and I understand it’s tough, and you know it’s tough, and so does the enemy. They have no conscience. They kill innocent men, women and children. They film the atrocities, they broadcast them for the world to see. They offer no hopeful vision. The only thing they know is death and destruction,” Bush said during a recent campaign stop.

“Our goal in Iraq is victory,” Bush said. “Victory in Iraq will come when that young democracy can sustain itself, and govern itself, and defend itself, and be a strong ally in the war against terrorists.

“But they hope these violent images will cause us to lose our nerve. They make a big mistake. They do not understand the true strength of the United States. We don’t run in the face of thugs and assassins, we’ll defend ourselves,” he said.

His comments were on the same subject being discussed by those terrorist leaders this week.

“Of course Americans should vote Democrat,” Jihad Jaara, a senior member of the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades terror group, and infamous leader of the 2002 siege of Bethlehem’s Church of the Nativity, told WND.

“This is why American Muslims will support the Democrats, because there is an atmosphere in America that encourages those who want to withdraw from Iraq. It is time that the American people support those who want to take them out of this Iraqi mud,” said Jaara, speaking to WND from exile in Ireland, where he was sent as part of an internationally brokered deal that ended the church siege.

Jaara and others told WND that they believe if the Democrats come into power because of the party’s position on withdrawing from Iraq, that ensures victory for the worldwide Islamic resistance.

They rejected statements from some prominent Democrats in the U.S. that a withdrawal from Iraq would end the insurgency, explaining an evacuation would prove resistance works and would compel jihadists to continue fighting until America is destroyed.

They said a withdrawal would also embolden their own terror groups to enhance “resistance” against Israel.

Jaara was the chief in Bethlehem of the Brigades, the declared “military wing” of Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas’ Fatah party.

Together with the Islamic Jihad terror group, the Brigades has taken responsibility for every suicide bombing inside Israel the past two years, including an attack in Tel Aviv in April that killed American teenager Daniel Wultz and nine Israelis.

Muhammad Saadi, a senior leader of Islamic Jihad in the northern West Bank town of Jenin, said the Democrats’ talk of withdrawal from Iraq makes him feel “proud.”

“As Arabs and Muslims we feel proud of this talk,” he told WND. “Very proud from the great successes of the Iraqi resistance. This success that brought the big superpower of the world to discuss a possible withdrawal.”

Bush’s comments came on a campaign swing through southern states, where he was stumping for Republican candidates in a mid-term election that could leave either Republicans or Democrats in control of Congress, and terrorists a focal point of many debates.

“We will defeat them,” he promised. “We’ll defeat them because our commanders on the ground have all the flexibility necessary to make sure that we constantly stay ahead of the enemy. We’ll defeat them because we got a fantastic United States military,” he said.

“We will succeed in Iraq because the Iraqis want to live in a peaceful society. Twelve million – nearly 12 million defied car-bombers and assassins and terrorists and went to vote. … And I believe strongly that they’ll become a government of the people, and by the people, and for the people.

“As a matter of fact, I believe the only way we cannot succeed is if we leave before the job is done,” he said.

Bush said Democrats have talked a lot about different plans to deal with terrorism.

“They’ve come up with a lot of creative ways to describe leaving Iraq before the job is done. Sometimes they say, ‘immediate redeployment.’ Sometimes they say they wouldn’t spend another dime on our troops. Sometimes they say the idea that we’re going to win this war is an idea that unfortunately is just plain wrong. However they put it, the Democrat approach in Iraq comes down to this: the terrorists win and America loses,” he said.

But in a statement on their website, the Democrats said, “We will protect Americans at home and lead the world by telling the truth to our troops, our citizens and our allies. We believe in a strong national defense that is both tough and smart, recognizing that homeland security begins with hometown security.”

“Democrats have a plan that is comprehensive – from repairing our military, to winning the war on terror, to protecting our homeland security, to ensuring success in Iraq and freeing America of its dependence on foreign oil – and it will finally prepare America for the security needs of the 21st Century. And we honor the sacrifices our troops, their families and veterans by making sure we take care of them when they come home,” the statement continued.

A new New York Times poll also indicated that Americans believe the U.S. will pursue a “quicker exit from Iraq” should the Democrats be in control. The survey said Americans believe the Democrats “have coalesced around a general position of finding a way to reduce or end American involvement in Iraq” but it also noted “there is substantial disagreement among Democratic Congressional leaders and candidates about exactly how to accomplish that.”

“Nearly 75 percent of respondents, including 67 percent of Republicans and 92 percent of Democrats, said they expected that Americans (sic) troops would be taken out of Iraq more swiftly under a Democratic-led Congress.”

The poll said 41 percent of respondents said they expected that troop levels would decrease if Democrats won control, while 40 percent said the party would seek to remove all troops. Forty-one percent said that they expected troop levels to remain the same if Republicans won, while 29 percent said they thought the United States would send more troops if the Republicans continued to control Congress.

Vice President Dick Cheney has reinforced Bush’s plans:

“Time and time again, we’re seeing examples of Democratic Party leaders apparently having lost their perspective concerning the nature of the enemy we face, and the need to wage this fight aggressively,” he said in a campaign stop this week. “No sharper example can be found than the Democratic Party chairman himself, Howard Dean, who said the capture of Saddam Hussein didn’t make America any safer.”

Abu Abdullah, a leader of Hamas’ military wing in the Gaza Strip, told WND the policy of withdrawal “proves the strategy of the resistance is the right strategy against the occupation.”

“We warned the Americans that this will be their end in Iraq,” said Abu Abdullah, considered one of the most important operational members of Hamas’ Izzedine al-Qassam Martyrs Brigades, Hamas’ declared “resistance” department. “They did not succeed in stealing Iraq’s oil, at least not at a level that covers their huge expenses. They did not bring stability. Their agents in the [Iraqi] regime seem to have no chance to survive if the Americans withdraw.”

Abu Ayman, an Islamic Jihad leader in Jenin, said he is “emboldened” by those in America who compare the war in Iraq to Vietnam.

“[The mujahedeen fighters] brought the Americans to speak for the first time seriously and sincerely that Iraq is becoming a new Vietnam and that they should fix a schedule for their withdrawal from Iraq,” boasted Abu Ayman.

Many Democratic politicians and some from the Republican Party have stated a withdrawal from Iraq would end the insurgency there.

In a recent interview with CBS’s “60 Minutes,” House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, stated, “The jihadists (are) in Iraq. But that doesn’t mean we stay there. They’ll stay there as long as we’re there.”

Pelosi would become House speaker if the Democrats win the majority of seats in next week’s elections.

WND read Pelosi’s remarks to the terror leaders, who unanimously rejected her contention an American withdrawal would end the insurgency.

Islamic Jihad’s Saadi, laughing, stated, “There is no chance that the resistance will stop.”

He said an American withdrawal from Iraq would “prove the resistance is the most important tool and that this tool works. The victory of the Iraqi revolution will mark an important step in the history of the region and in the attitude regarding the United States.”

I guess John Murtha is right? Wrong!

36 Americ afirst

“How typical of a bunch of lib Dem scumbags to go around buying whores and drug dealers to spew their garbage”

Hey, the real score was when our secret Democratic crack whore operatives got the president of the American Evangelical Assocation to admit to it. Well, that and the e-mails and tapes.

Ted Haggard is gay.

John Kerry can’t tell a joke.

I think my three posts say it all about the cause and how moonbats don’t see the world.

How have republicans betrayed the soldiers? They are not the party trying to keep them from voting. Commentby Francine Busby-Democrat Cali— 11/3/06@ 10:45 pm

Want to bet?*

Sure, the disenfranchisement of the military voter is explained in the following article:

From Navy Seals.com
http://www.navyseals.com/commu.....fm?id=6536

By Chad Miles

A recent report issued by the National Defense Committee, a nonprofit organization that supports the U.S. military and encourages veterans to run for elective office, recently found that 25 percent of ballots cast by military personnel in the 2004 presidential election went uncounted. Incredibly, that rate of disenfranchisement could be even higher due to the fact that the study relied on voluntary disclosure of information from local election officials.

Unfortunately, the issue of soldiers being disenfranchised during an election is nothing new. We all remember the 2000 Florida recount fiasco and the events surrounding it. During that election, the rate of uncounted ballots cast by members of the armed forces was even higher at a staggering 29 percent nationwide.

In Florida, which turned out to be the pivotal state in determining the winner of the 2000 election, around 1,400 military absentee votes were left uncounted, largely because of the role of lawyers working for the Democratic Party at local canvassing boards who followed a directive from the party to challenge all military ballots on the premise that they likely were votes for Republican nominee George W. Bush.

Although many lawmakers vowed that the level of disenfranchisement seen in the aftermath of that election would never happen again, it looks like it did.

According to the committee’s study, “Military and Overseas Absentee Voting in the 2004 Election,” the largest problem in managing military absentee ballots is not hostile attorneys, but rather what military historians call “the tyranny of distance” – the unavoidable difficulties inherent in getting ballots to our deployed military people serving overseas.

During the election in 2000, the study found that, 30 percent of military personnel did not receive their ballot in time to cast a vote. When you combine that figure with the number of votes that were tossed out for various reasons – including arriving to the absentee voters via snail mail past voting deadlines – you can see that the scope of the problem is enormous.

The challenge of getting ballots to soldiers was even worse during the 2004 election due to the post-9/11 deployments of military units to Iraq, Afghanistan and dozens of other countries in support of the Global War on Terror, the committee found. Units frequently on the move and mail delays caused by local threats such as the danger of roadside bombs made the task of getting ballots to the troops even more daunting.

However, military absentee voters once again in 2004 found themselves the target of partisan political maneuvering as had happened in Florida four years earlier.

Recognizing the fact that more time would be needed to count all of the military ballots arriving from overseas, the Pennsylvania legislature in 2004 requested that Gov. Edward G. Rendell authorize a two-week extension for the acceptance of military ballots to compensate for the issues surrounding the wartime situation in which our soldiers are now engaged.

However, in Pennsylvania in 2004, as in Florida in 2000, political operatives were motivated by their longstanding knowledge that a strong majority of military voters generally supports Republican candidates.

Rendell, a Democrat, initially refused the request to assist military absentee voters. But it later was discovered that he had launched an aggressive “get out the vote” information campaign within the state’s prison population, informing inmates of voting rights and providing them with absentee ballots for the election. Other studies have shown that a majority of the prison voting population supports Democratic candidates. The adverse publicity prompted Rendell to approve the extension for military overseas voters.

In Washington state, the U.S. Justice Department threatened to sue less than a month before the 2004 election because election officials had yet to even mail out absentee ballots to military personnel overseas. What may have been bureaucratic incompetence may well have altered the outcome of that state’s gubernatorial election.

The Washington state governor’s race between Republican nominee Dino Rossi and Democratic nominee Christine Gregoire turned out to be even tighter than the Florida presidential vote count in 2000. The Republican candidate won the first two re-counts but ultimately lost the third by 128 votes. With a total of 31,910 overseas ballots mailed out for that election, it’s easy to see that even a few lost, late or missing military votes made a huge impact in the election, ultimately deciding the race.

When it was time for Congress to ratify the 2004 election results and electoral vote count for the offices of President and Vice President during a joint session last December, two Democratic legislators challenged the results on the basis of voting irregularities and disenfranchisement. Was someone finally going to raise the issue of one-fourth of our deployed military men and women not having a voice in the democratic process? No.

The challenge concerned votes cast in the state of Ohio, which turned out to be the pivotal state in 2004 with enough electoral votes to swing the election and the Presidency to John Kerry. The challenge centered on disqualification of a newly created provisional ballot, not the military vote, and was nothing more than a symbolic protest by the party that had lost the presidential election.

It appears that once again the rights of military overseas voters are no longer an issue within the political establishment.

We should not have to still be struggling with this issue. Before the 2004 election, the Department of Defense launched an online voting system called the Secure Electronic Registration and Voting Experiment (SERVE), designed to give military personnel deployed around the world the ability to vote instantly online. This would have obviously corrected the problems surrounding the reliance of postal mail for balloting, and put an end to the partisan shenanigans we saw in Florida with Democratic Party lawyers targeting military voters for ballot rejection.

Alas, DoD officials opted to shut down the SERVE program before the election due to security concerns dealing with the sensitive nature of the data and the possibility of illegitimate votes being tabulated. Since DoD manages to send thousands of classified messages daily around the globe, many of them stamped “Top Secret,” it is hard to imagine that these security and privacy concerns cannot be resolved.

It is ridiculous to have our troops filling out paper ballots and placing them in the mail in a day and age when publicly available technology allows you to take a picture and send it to someone on the other side of the world with a small cellphone. The disenfranchisement on the scale that we have seen in recent years is unacceptable, but it is definitely correctible.

If DoD officials take the time to develop a secure and dependable electronic voting system, some election results may be drastically different in the years to come – but unlike the number of contested elections we have seen since 2000, the results will more likely reflect the judgment of all of the voters – including those serving in harm’s way to protect our freedoms.

Contributing Editor Chad Miles is a U.S. Army veteran who served with the 82nd Airborne Division and the 5th Special Forces Group during the 1990s. He founded the website WhoServed.com, which tracks the military service of previous and current U.S. government leaders, and is currently pursuing a degree in political science from the University of Michigan – Dearborn. He can be reached at chad@whoserved.com. Send Feedback responses to dwfeedback@yahoo.com.

I get my facts straight from the military, not lying proganda from some lefty, moonbat site.

WOS – straight cut and paste from Wing Nut Daily. You are a hollow man.

You suck Mike Webb.

What do you three cut and pastes say? We interviewed terrorists and they want Democrats because they want us out?
Well fucking Duh!
Even if these interviewies didn’t have their testicles attached to a car battery in Abu Garib.
They know as well as all of the fucking world, that there is no dealing in anyway to come to a solution with this administration.
They will have to keep dying as well as our young people. Because this fuckwad only knows diplomacy with killing.

And now to find out about the war profiteering going on while 1000’s of people are dying. This group is gonna have a lot of splainen to do. Now the reconstruction theifs want to bail, without doing fucking anything but stealing money.
Speak of Cut and Run. Go fuck up Iraq, kill their people, promise reconstruction then don’t do it, then tell them them you need to put a democracy in this cesspool we have left you. We have made enough profit for now.
Fucking Treasonous war profiteers.

Everyone is tired of this war including those on the make for 73 virgins…they are running out of virgins.

They want democrats, because they know that we are going to have to make YOUR Mia Culpa for making the mideast a cesspool.

They know we are the ones who are going to try to mend relationships with the rest of the world, that Bushco has fucked up.

Just like anytime we have a GOP President, it takes the next Democrat to fix the fucking mess you leave, we have to raise taxes to pay for YOUR irresponsible credit card spending.

So next time you want to say Democrats are ‘obstructionists’
We’ll reply ‘Thank you’. somebody has to be there to slow down the carnage that you leave for us to fix. Both abroad and domestically.

I am still Republican – I still cheat, lie, and steal when I’m not crying about being a hypocrit and a family. I hate liberals, but I want to liberate Iraq. Weep, weep, weep….I have to pay taxes – why cant’t everything in life be free like the poor black folks get it…boooh hoooo hoooo. HAIL HITLER!