Crosscut’s Ted Van Dyk writes:
As it happened, I was in Prescott, Arizona over Memorial Day weekend and thus got a first-hand view of the current version of the Sarah Palin Show.
Yes…Van Dyk “happened” to be in Arizona. When he eventually gets around to writing about Sarah Palin, he makes a remarkable observation (my emphasis):
A friend of ours, the insurgent/reform candidate for mayor, running against the good-ole-boy GOP incumbent, approached Palin and asked that she sign her mayoral petititon.
Palin did so (even though, as a non-resident, her signature would of course be disqualified).
Sure…as a non-resident, her signature would have to be disqualified, but wasn’t this an act of election fraud?!?
Here it is…under title 16 of the Arizona Revised Statutes:
16-1020. Signing of petitions; violation; classification
A person knowingly signing any name other than his own to a nomination petition or a petition for formation, alteration or dissolution of a special district […] or who is not at the time of signing a qualified elector entitled to vote at the election initiated by the petition, is guilty of a class 1 misdemeanor.
For years Republicans have engaged in fetishistic hand-wringing over voter fraud, even as numerous investigations find little evidence of actual voter fraud. Its a good issue for Republicans, because under the guise of “election integrity” they can systematically disenfranchise, en masse, voters who tend to vote Democratic. And, man, have they been disenfranchising voters. (Apparently, blocking people entitled to vote from exercising their right isn’t an equally important integrity issue.)
So I hope Republican voters will stay true to their fetish strategy convictions and express shock and outrage over Sarah Palin’s demonstrably blatant act of election fraud. If so, one might expect enraged calls for her prosecution, if not angry mobs chanting something about a hanging.
As for me…I am truly shocked beyond belief over this matter.
Breaking news from Ted Van Dyk?!?
Don’t worry, even though WW2 vets won’t be allowed to vote in Wisconsin anymore, felons will be allowed to carry handguns into daycares, so no one except felons will dare to molest your kids.
Oh, and let’s not forget, Republicans don’t allow currently serving solders to vote, either.
http://www.gregpalast.com/mass.....-soldiers/
In other election news, Sen. John McCain has gone certifiably senile.
http://the-reaction.blogspot.c.....obama.html
If every qualified voter actually voted, the GOP would never hold office anywhere. They have always relied on racially based caging lists, they’ve always deliberately committed mass count frauds in Ohio, Florida and Texas. The GOP is the Fascist Party and will do absolutely anything to gain control of the Government. They’re the mafia party, the nationalist-corporatist party. To them, the law and the Constitution is just another thing they have to work around.
I’m sure Spuddy would be goosestepping with a smile on his face right through the gate of that “family camp”.
I am for applying the Bush Doctrine to all Republicans as they clearly pose a very real threat to the continuation of the republic.
You might ask yourself, “What if the Palins had moved from Alaska? Is there any possibility they have a house in Arizona?”
Otherwise, van Dyk breaking news in Crosscut is no more unusual than Dan Savage writing in the Stranger that he had voted in the Iowa primary and licked doorknobs at Gary Bauer’s headquarters out of fear that said homunculus would be elected President. (Savage beat the rap in court, claiming that he didn’t know vote fraud was illegal.)
When it comes to election fraud the Republicans are the masters, from the retail level of vote fraud to the industrial level of re-writing or manipulating electronic voting totals, as we’ve seen in Iowa, Indiana, Ohio, and Wisconsin lately.
The Palins do have a house in AZ, but it’s in Scottsdale, not Prescott so she still broke the law.
Oh, Sarah, please say it isn’t so . . . This country needs you so badly. Then, you give the socialist media this piece of raw meat. You need to discipline yourself, girl, if we’re going to take back this country.
On this Memorial Day, let us pause and reflect that Republicans believe you should serve in the military and die for your country so they don’t have to.
George W. Bush – AWOL from National Guard
Dick Cheney – 5 deferments, never served
John Ashcroft – 7 deferments, never served
Phil Gramm – 4 deferments, never served
Jeb Bush – never served
Karl Rove – never served
Dennis Hastert – never served
Bill Frist – never served
Dick Armey – never served
Tom DeLay – never served
Newt Gingrich – never served
Trent Lott – never served
Saxby Chambliss – never served
Mitch McConnell – never served
Rick Santorum – never served
Roy Blunt – never served
Richard Shelby – never served
Dana Rohrabacher – never served
John M. McHugh – never served
JC Watts – never served
Jack Kemp – never served becaue of “knee problem” which didn’t keep him from playing in the NFL for 8 years
Arnold Schwarzenegger – AWOL from Austrian army
George Pataki – never served
Spencer Abraham – never served
John Engler – never served
Elliott Abrams – never served
Paul Wolfowitz – never served
Vin Weber – never served
Richard Perle – never served
Douglas Feith – never served
Rudy Guiliani – never served
Kenneth Starr – never served
Antonin Scalia – never served
Clarence Thomas – never served
Ralph Reed – never served
Michael Medved – never served
Charlie Daniels – never served
Ted Nugent – never served
Jon Kyl – never served
Tim Hutchison – never served
Christopher Cox – never served
George Will – never served
Chris Matthews – never served
Bill O’Reilly – never served
Sean Hannity – never served
Rush Limbaugh – never served
Michael Savage – never served
Paul Gigot – never served
Bill Bennett – never served
Pat Buchanan – never served
Pat Robertson – never served
Bill Kristol – never served
Ann Coulter – never served
Scott Walker – never served
Donald Trump – never served
Sarah Palin – never served
Mike Huckabee – never served
Jon Huntsman – never served
Mitt Romney – never served
I’ve got relatives that served in all the big wars from the revolution to Vietnam. 2 uncles served in the marines in ‘Nam, they’re Ok now, but they were fighting the war for twenty years after they came home. Another uncle was dead at 56 thanks to the bottle that helped him deal what he went through over there. A great uncle, who died when I was a kid, lived his life crippled up and in pain thanks to mustard gas in WWI. Another great uncle went off to fight in the pacific (another marine!) he went over a nice guy and full of fun. The guy I knew was just plain mean. According to my grand mother it was the war that did it.
What is it I’m supposed at be all puffy chested and proud about?
Rog, you forgot Sarah P.
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What is it I’m supposed at be all puffy chested and proud about?
Grandpa served in the Army in the Pacific Theater. Gramdma was a war bride, married him when she was just turned 15. He was 21 or so, and left in late 42. According to Gram, he was a good hearted, hard working farmers kid right out of rural Oklahoma, and he was the nicest, funniest guy around.
Then he came back in 46, mean, nasty, unsmiling and downright unfriendly to everyone around him. He was apparently only in two battles, Saipan and Tinian, and others on board ship with the AA gunners shooting at everything that flew over, friend or foe. He spent the last year of the War, washing his friends off the insides of B25 and B29 gun turrets with a firehose and rags.
I met a SeaBee several years ago, a customer that had come in to have a part made. He had this permanent edge about him like he was going to jump out of his skin any second. His job in Vietnam was as a heavy equipment operator. What that meant, was that he would be welded into a cage on a D-9 caterpillar, then carried by helicopter from the ship to the place where he was going to bulldoze, dropped into the jungle
and do nothing but run the Dozer, eat C-rations and sit in his own shit for a week at a time. Welded in. with bullets bouncing off the armor and enemy soldiers crawling around it the whole time he was there.
War just fucks everyone up. There are no “positives” to war, no matter what Emerson or Stephenson wrote about it. Be puffy, for no other reason that no matter what the naiveté’ of the individual soldiers, or the attitudes of the politicians that sent them there, they went there and did their jobs. Whether our country is better off politically for it I have my doubts. But at least our country still exists.
It’s not just that Palin isn’t a resident of the state. Obama is from Hawaii, which as we all know isn’t part of the USA – so Sarah Palin isn’t from the USA either!! Alaska gained statehood the same year as Hawaii, so if one doesn’t count, neither does the other. And we all know that being an illegal alien trying to vote in Arizona is just about the worst thing possible. And she’s got a funny name, too.
And isn’t her husband, like, an Eskimo?? Who let them into our country!!???
Live by wingnut logic, die by wingnut logic.
Nice catch, Darryl. But wasn’t the right-wing slut in DC at the Rollin’ Thunder shindig?
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Can’t a family go on a nationally announced bus tour family vacation and not be badgered by the lame (Ted Van Dyk) stream media?
Won’t you people let poor Sarah live her life in private?
Slingshot,
Unless Mr. Van Dyk was snookered by a Sarah Palin impersonator, he saw Palin in Prescott on Friday.
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Mr. Van Dyk strikes me as being the sort of man that would be fooled by almost any female impersonator.
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Can Crosscut not find a fine, quality, writer that lives closer than Arizona? Their motto is “News Of The Great Nearby” after all and Arizona doesn’t exactly strike me as near by.
Speaking of people who did or ot serve… Why not Charles Krauthammer Roger Dumb Rabbit…
Why haven’t you give attribution to Democratic Underground where this list was compiled? Oh yes because you get away with abject plagiarism because you are a lefty!
Colin Powell US Army 35 years service
* Legion of Merit with oak leaf cluster
* Bronze Star Medal
* Purple Heart
* Vietnam Service Medal with one silver service star
* Combat Infantryman Badge
* Ranger Tab
* Air Assault Badge
* Parachutist Badge
* Vietnam Campaign Medal
Donald Rumsfeld US Navy
Attended Princeton University on academic and NROTC scholarships
United States Navy active duty(1954-57)as a Naval aviator.
Naval reserves 1957-1975
Standby Reserve 1975 to 1989 when he first becam SECDEF.
Not one of my favorite people, but there you have it.
Norman Mineta US Army
Mineta was born in San Jose, California. During World War II he was detained in an internment camp near Cody, Wyoming, along with hundreds of other Japanese Americans.
1953 joined US Army, don’t know his exit date. Probably one term.
Served as an intelligence officer in Japan and Korea
Anthony Principi, US Navy
1967 graduate of the United States Naval Academy at Annapolis, Maryland, and first saw active duty aboard the destroyer USS Joseph P. Kennedy. He later commanded a River Patrol Unit in Vietnam’s Mekong Delta.
Bronze Star
Tom Ridge, U.S. Army
Infantry staff sergeant in Vietnam, earning the Bronze Star for Valor, the Vietnamese Cross of Gallantry and the Combat Infantry Badge. A ruptured appendix cut short his tour and he returned home in 1970.
John McCain, US Navy
Served in Vietnam as a naval aviator.
McCain was captured and tortured as a prisoner of war, released in March 1973.
Commendation Medal, Silver Star, Bronze Star, Distinguished Flying Cross, and the Prisoner of War Medal
Dummocrapts WHO LIED about Vietnam service
Richard Blumenthal took repeated deferments to avoid service during the war
Tom Harkin – But he could attack John McCain
Other DUMMOCRAPT Liars
Bill Richardson,lied about playing professional baseball.
Presnit Obummer never served but hung with peeps who bombed the Pentagon.
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BTW Did Hillary serve?
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My dad was drafted for Korea a and ended up working one week a month at Fort Lewis’s Madigan Hospital, he spent the rest of the time working his dad’s farm. Another uncle was a really good welder and when he got drafted for Korea they sent him to work in a ship yard that was short on welders. If we’re going to go to war we should all go to war. Everyone plays a role, we raise taxes to pay for it, whatever it takes.
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Lt Col Allen West
Completed airborne training at Fort Benning.
Battalion Task Force fire support officer for 2d Battalion, 16th Infantry Regiment for the 1st Infantry Division
Retired as battalion commander of the 2d Battalion 20th Field Artillery, 4th Infantry Division
Lt. Mitch McConnell, released from Ft Know Kentucky for early multiple sclerosis symptoms.
Commander Mark Kirk, US Navy
Received the Navy and Marine Corps Commendation Medal, Navy Achievement Medal, National Defense Service Medal, and the Global War on Terrorism Service Medal, as well as the Joint Meritorious Unit Award, the Navy Unit Commendation, and the Navy Meritorious Unit Commendation.
I have to find each of them individually. But there are over 50 in congress and 19 or so in the senate who served or continue to serve in the reserves.
Dean Logan is working for the GOP in AZ now?
whoda thunk?
St. Sarah is neither dusky, nor poor, nor a liberal, and thus, in Teabag Town, she cannot commit crimes. Why is that so hard for you Seattle libs to understand?
P.S. There was no My Lai massacre — just ask Colin Powell, he wrote a report back then on the matter — and Rep. Jim McDermott is not a veteran of the US armed forces.
Puddy logic again. Group A of people share a common quality. Group B of people share a quality opposite of group B. Therefore the quality ascribed to group A does not exist.
@7
The Palin’s do not own a house in Arizona. A holding company believed to be associated with the Palin’s recently purchased a home in Arizona.
Sarah’s just folksy. Don’t we all have LLCs to purchase our major assets so we can treat major capital investments as corporate debt rather than taxable personal assets? Scream class welfare all you want but there’s your hypocricy on display. Those with enough previous assets to make use of the court and licensing system to set up personal corporations can use the courts and licensing systems to receive services that by their very actions they avoid paying for through their personal income taxes. But it’s the poor who leech of the wealthy, right?
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Lying again.
Sarah Palin.
Half-Term Governor, Full Time Twit.
There’s no Monday morning Open Thread so I guess this one will have to do. And what’s with all the deletions in this thread?
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It’s just LD and puddybitch…no great loss.
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@22 “Why haven’t you give attribution to Democratic Underground where this list was compiled?”
Because I compiled my own list from multiple sources over a period of several years, asshole.
Fyi, the recent additions to my list were done by checking each current GOP presidential candidate’s bio on Wikipedia and other sources by me personally; nothing came from Democratic Underground. I don’t use that website and didn’t even know they had a similar list.
Cripes, if I had grass growing in my front yard, you would claim I plagiarized it from my neighbor’s lawn.
Go fuck yourself.
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What Puddy doesn’t recognize (or more likely, refuses to acknowledge) was that the original list contained some of the most ardent pro-war advocates in the U.S. government, including those who thought it was a great idea to manipulate and cherry-pick intelligence to justify going to war in a country where there was not, at the time, any Al Quida presence. By not serving personally, and to my knowledge without having their children serve, they qualify for the dubious distinction of being a “Chicken Hawk” – a great advocate of having others serve their dubious policies, but without the courage to do so themselves, or have any of their children do so.
Now, if Puddy wants to compare Democrat and Republican service records, lets not forget the following:
Daniel Inouye, the venerable Democratic Senator from Hawaii, who not only served in WWII, but was awarded the CONGRESSIONAL MEDAL OF HONOR.
Jim Webb, the current Democratic Senator from Virginia, who was a Naval Acadamy graduate and served in combat in Vietnam. Although formally a Republican (serving in the Reagan and George W. Bush administrations, ultimately as Secty of the Navy), he crossed party lines when when he saw how shabbily the Bush administration was using the troops – including at least one of his sons, who was a Marine serving in Iraq.
And our own poster, Roger Rabbit, who was a grunt in Vietnam.
I, also, found it surpising that Palin was in Arizona while her bus tour was kicking off from Washington D.C.
My guess is the bus is going to do the driving, but she’s going to fly back and forth while she tries to keep her face in the media every day.
She claims the bus tour isn’t political. Yea, right. She’s just burning through her corporate donations and keeping her mug in the media every day, until such time as she actually declares and has to start reporting the sources of her funding.
@22 (relates to 39)
Because Puddy is an idiot…..
827 F.2d 569: Fred L. Worth, Plaintiff-appellant, v. Selchow & Righter Company, Horn Abbott, Ltd., Defendants-appellees
This is the relatively famous Trivial Pursuit decision. In short, facts cannot be copyrighted so requesting that someone “credit” a source for confirmable factual information is just Puddy being stupid.
Facts are not intellectual property.
I’m assuming the bus tour is going to stop in New Hampshire. While that may be the site of the northern-most battles of the Revolutionary War, you don’t think that the fact that it is the first primary state has anything to do with it, hmmmmmm?
@44 “Facts are not intellectual property”
While that was a nice attempt to educate, czechsaaz, I’m afraid you lost the wingnuts with the word “Facts”. These wingnuts make up their own reality. It’s like they’re posting comments from an alternate universe or something. Hell, you’d get farther talking with a squid than a wingnut.
@34 “There’s no Monday morning Open Thread so I guess this one will have to do. And what’s with all the deletions in this thread?”
heh- That was actually kind of funny. That’s not the usual rabbit humor there so I’m going to guess that you lucked into it.
Folks…This is not an open thread.
# 38: As far as Medicaid is concerned, the Republican line is going to be that their plan “saves” Medicare, whereas the Democrats aren’t doing anything about it.
Of course, there would be NO financial problems with Medicare except for two things, both of which were caused by the Republican Congress and George W. Bush administration: (a) Medicare Part D, which provided prescription benefits but didn’t have provisions to control drug costs or have any way in place to fund the program; and (b) the economic collapse of 2008, which ensured that unemployment in excess of 9% would cause Medicare tax receipts to plumet.
I’ve always thought that Medicare Part D was a rather cynical attempt to buy senior’s votes but kick the funding problem down the road, hopefully to a Democratic administration. If so, they have succeded as far as timing goes.
But one commentator I heard this past weekend went even further – saying it was a “poison pill” which was INTENDED to bankrupt Medicare, so it could be privatized. Of course, privatization just means taking tax money away from the middle class and giving it to rich companies who will serve as the middleman after extracting 30% + for their “administrative costs”, including executive bonuses.
We need to make sure that voters understand that it is the Republicans who have endangered Medicare, and the solution is to make sure the program is fully funded – ideally, from taxes on Republicans (i.e., those within the top 20% of income).
By the way, today’s Wiley cartoon explains Puddybud logic:
Argument-Winning Techniques
Note: This link is to the current day’s cartoon. If you are looking at this on any day other than 31May2011, then use the date feature to find that day’s cartoon.
Darryl @ 48;
Okay, okay. I’ll try to keep it to comments about Sarah Palin. Or Ted Van Dyke. Or Memorial Day. Or Republican voter fraud & electoral manipulation. Or Arizona.
@48 You know, Darryl, if you wanted the “open thread” comments posted in the Drinking Liberally thread (which wasn’t posted yet when I posted my comments here) you could have moved my comments from this thread to that thread. I put some fair amount of time and effort into those comments and now nobody can read them because you vaporized them. My suggestion is that you post a new open thread at the beginning of every day (instead of halfway through it) so this sort of thing doesn’t happen.
Tough shit rabbit turd….its about time somebody kept you from stinking up every thread with off topic subjects….you are the worst offender here by far.
Thanks daryl for stepping up
When it comes to palin, I think just about everyone agrees that she stands no chance in winning a prez election…she is clearly doing what she does for cash and notoriety…..people on the left and right who pay attention to her are just tools.
Just slightly O.T. but while we’re comparing military careers, take a moment to look at the service, promotions and medals won by Gen. Wesley Clark.
But all that doesn’t keep a certain Seattle based, respect the military, right wing radio host from being incapable of pronouncing his name. You know, the type of who is “above name calling” who seems to think w-e-s-l-e-y is pronounced Weasel-y. (And yes, he went ape-shit over the Gen. Betray-us nonsense.)
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Oh great, now we have troll-bots.
Okay let’s take a moment looking at General Wesley Clarke… Didn’t he shake hands, pose for pictures and trade hats with well-know war crimes criminal Serbian General Ratko Mladic in 1994? Didn’t Clinton’s State Department ask him not to go to Banja Luka in the middle of the war? “It’s like cavorting with Hermann Goering.” – US Official.
Didn’t he attack John McCain in 2008? Yes he did. So let’s remember General Wesley Clark. Yes, let’s really remember.
Did he get a medal for all that too from Willie Clinton?
BTW not a fan of Palin, but she does bring out the best of PDS in HA libtardos. It’s so glorious watching the fruitless go bonkers here!
So now we have someone cavorting with Goering, another heading the Goebbels Media Service, and the Secret Service Brown Shirts monitoring the Fox News Channel. And two of these news bits coming out on the Memorial Day Weekend.
P R I C E L E S S!
Puddy. More right wing wack? Nice link.
And your money quote, -U.S. official. No attribution. Who is it? The janitor during Rumsfeld’s tenure of cavorting with Saddam Hussein. I don’t know, but neither does Puddy.
But as to your “unauthorized” claim. Hey, the Pentagon (the Defense Dept.) is on record saying they sent Clark over the objections of State.
Here’s an actual news link. Sorry it doesn’t fit your fiction.
http://www.nytimes.com/1994/09.....-serb.html
Right Wing hack? It was all over the news. That picture came back to haunt Wesley Clark.
You can survey the whole Internet by Google Yahoo Bing whatever and it all sez is US official. The US official had no attribution. The Truth Wins. You lose. Butt you’re toooooooo stoooooooooopid to figger that out.
So the Clinton Pentagon led by William J Perry overruled the Clinton State Department led by Warren Minor Christopher? BTW that’s his name.
Toooooooooooooo
Dammmmmmmmmmmmn
Funnnnnnnnnnnny
Actually Puddy, that’s about the first factual thing on here. The defense department authorized the meeting. It was all over the news because it was a clash between two cabinet level departments. (U.S. Official, that’s what’s called an anonymous source ignoramus. Any person who works for the CDC, FBI, USDA or any official government entity can be quoted as a U.S. Source. That’s the point Puddy, please keep up.) A random person who refuses to be named compared Clark to a Nazi. Good enough for Puddy.
“John Boehner meeting with Paul Ryan is like Captain Kangaroo meeting with the Symbionese Liberation Army” – U.S. Source (See what I did there?)
To suggest that Clark was unauthorized or broke command is too stupid for words. It’s all over the internet. It was an official meeting organized by NATO and approved by the Pentagon.
Your google links making the Goehring comparison top two:
Weekly Standard – right wing hack, anonymous source quoted
Free Republic – right wing hack, anonymous source quoted
the rest are all unknown blogs repeating the anonymous source.
Except Democratic Underground where an anonymous poster says, “Clark Defies Orders.”
I’m sorry, when did the State Department get the authority to order the military to do anything? Hmmm? Puddy? State can send the Military into battle? State can override an official Pentagon directive? Please, educate me. How does the chain of command work in your world.
No matter how many ‘o’s or all cap letters you use, it’s not funny. It’s sad how ignorant you are.