See, this is why I’m really, really rooting for Rudy Giuliani to win the GOP nomination. In the words of Rev. James Dobson:
Speaking as a private citizen and not on behalf of any organization or party, I cannot, and will not, vote for Rudy Giuliani in 2008. It is an irrevocable decision. If given a Hobson’s – Dobson’s? – choice between him and Sens. Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama, I will either cast my ballot for an also-ran – or if worse comes to worst – not vote in a presidential election for the first time in my adult life. My conscience and my moral convictions will allow me to do nothing else.
Abortion, domestic partnerships, philandering, multiple marriages, dressing in drag… these are all reasons Dobson cites in asserting Giuliani is not “presidential timber.” And if Christian conservatives like Dobson can’t bring themselves to vote for the GOP nominee, many will stay home from the polls altogether, disadvantaging Republican candidates up and down the ticket. Democratic voters already tend to turn out in relatively greater numbers during presidential elections — imagine a close race in a rematch between Darcy Burner and Dave Reichert, in which the right-wing Republican base is turned off by a Giuliani candidacy.
I sure as hell am.
Rompin’ Rudy! What a delicious revenge against Karl Rove!
Goldy said: “imagine a close race in a rematch between Darcy Burner and Dave Reichert, in which the right-wing Republican base is turned off by a Giuliani candidacy.”
Oh.My.Goodness. I hadn’t even thought of the ramifications that would trickle down to the local levels. And it would/could happen to create tsunamis out of a whole new national “Wave”. I don’t think any of the other candidates will satisfy the religious right’s convictions either, between all the cabal of mistresses and 2nd/3rd wives in the mix. Sounds like Newt is even considering jumping into the fray to save the situation – but his laundry is nearly as unclean as Rudy’s. This may be one truly FUN election to see!
Dobson presumably would vote for Newt despite his philandering, multiple marriages, and mortal sins.
Those failings never stopped a wingnut preacher (or a preachy wingnut) from voting for someone whose attitude on abortion and homosexuals was “right.”
I can’t wait until the IAFF runs ads against him.
If Dobson and Robertson drop dead too, is that a trifecta?
Hey, I’m not advocating it or even wishing for it; just asking a question, that’s all.
This is HUGE!!! If the Immoral Minority stays home, Rove won’t be able to suppress enough black votes to steal the election, because there aren’t that many blacks!
Goldy, I think your analysis is slightly off. IMHO, Rudy is the biggest threat to Hillary. Rudy would pull a lot of moderate and “fiscal” conservatives together. This is Hillary’s base. It would make the race close. I think this upcoming election its all about the center. The political base of the right is certainly disillusioned and their numbers will be weak compared to the left anyway you slice it. But at the end of the day “it is the independents stupid”. Of course if Bloomberg jumps in all bets are off. Either way it is Hillary’s race to lose. We get some crazy to the win the republican nomination many of the moderate right voters with be likely staying home and we get sweeping majority in the Senate. Rudy gets the nomination, the senate seats will be tougher to win. That’s just my opinion I could be wrong.
The real question is what does a NY “subway series” election (Clinton, Bloomberg, Giuliani) do to the national political scene? I think it makes things harder out west and in the south and southwest. Because there are many of us who resent the fact that the East coast is so much the power center of the country.
Gordon @7,
I think you underestimate the political genocide of the moderate wing of the Republican Party. I also think you overstate the appeal of “fiscal conservatism” vs. “get the fuck out of Iraq.” Unless Giuliani repudiates the war and promises to bring the troops home, he doesn’t win the center. And that is the center, particularly amongst independents.
And besides, Bill Clinton was a fiscal conservative. That rubs off on Hilary.
@8
I agree on all your points. That is why I said this is Hillary’s race to lose. But with Guiliani at the top of ticket the party differences will be blurred somewhat and I think that makes senate and congressional races more unpredictable. Last cycle everybody got to run “against” George Bush. That will be a less clear cut frame in 2008. Of course the war is the biggest issue and second is fiscal policy, which is just another way of saying “how much are we paying for this war again?”.
And with Blair on the out I think this war is coming to a much more abrupt end than even Bush is willing to admit. So Guiliani might not even have to face that question directly in the general election.
By the way what do you think of a Bloomberg/Hagel ticket? Anti-War and fiscal conservative. Could make things interesting.
Breaking News: Time Magazine Reports That Gore Flies Commercial
Now, at last, the authoritative truth can be told: WINGNUTS ARE LYING WHEN THEY CLAIM AL GORE FLIES ON A PRIVATE JET.
“Gore … has logged countless miles in the past four years, crisscrossing the planet to present his remarkably powerful slide show and the Oscar-winning documentary that’s based on it, An Inconvenient Truth, to groups of every size and description. He flies commercial most of the time ….”
http://www.time.com/time/natio.....09,00.html
The Malaise of George W. Bush
Al Gore wrote in his new book, “The Assault on Reason”:
“The persistent and sustained reliance on falsehoods as the basis of policy, even in the face of massive and well-understood evidence to the contrary, seems to many Americans to have reached levels that were previously unimaginable. A large and growing number of Americans are asking out loud: ‘What has happened to our country?’ …
“We have a Congress. We have an independent judiciary. We have checks and balances. We are a nation of laws. We have free speech. We have a free press. Have they all failed us?
“Why has America’s public discourse become less … less reasoned? Faith in the power of reason … remains the central premise of American democracy. This premise is now under assault.
“American democracy is now in danger … from unprecedented changes in … the marketplace of ideas. It is simply no longer possible to ignore the strangeness of our public discourse. … For example, hardly anyone now disagrees that the choice to invade Iraq was a grievous mistake. Yet, incredibly, all of the evidence and arguments necessary to have made the right decision were available at the time and in hindsight are glaringly obvious. …
“Our Founders’ faith in the viability of representative democracy rested on their trust in the wisdom of a well-informed citizenry, their ingenious design for checks and balances, and their belief that the rule of reason is the natural sovereign of a free people. The Founders took great care to protect the openness of the marketplace of ideas so that knowledge could flow freely. Thus they not only protected freedom of assembly, they made a special point … of protecting the freedom of the printing press. …
“The potential for manipulating mass opinions and feelings initially discovered by commercial advertisers is now being even more aggressively exploited by a new generation of media Machiavellis. … As a result, our democracy is in danger of being hollowed out.
“In order to reclaim our birthright, we Americans must resolve to repair the systemic decay of the public forum. … We must stop tolerating the rejection and distortion of science. … Americans in both parties should insist on the re-establishment of respect for the rule of reason.”
http://www.time.com/time/natio.....15,00.html
Roger Rabbit Commentary: Al Gore sounds an awful lot like a man who not only is smart enough to be president, but possesses the intellectual capital and moral compass needed to rescue our nation from the malaise into which George W. Bush has led it.
Gore flies commercial. And paid more than you do to make sure that the electricity he used comes from renewable green sources.
And that big plane that Speaker Pelosi “demanded”? Turns out that was asked for by The House Security Chief and she had nothing to do with it.
Now, on topic: I don’t want Hillary Clinton to run. I don’t want a candidate that “enables innovation by changing thought paradigms on existant situations”, I want someone who knows that invention starts by thinking about old problems in new ways.
I want an intelligent, plain-speaking person who will address the issues (security, jobs, energy, health care and the rest) in plain english.
If I wanted crappy double-speak, I’d just stick with the Neocon Republicans.
@7 The dynamic is different for the ’08 Senate races. In a nutshell, Republicans have twice as many seats up for grabs in ’08 as Democrats, and a good number of them are in play. Regardless of what happens in the presidential race, the Democrats should make Senate gains in ’08 sufficient to give them an absolute majority. Look for potential gains of 5 or 6 seats. Then we won’t need Leiberman’s vote anymore.
Oh God I love this shit. Watching the Publicans go after each other is more fun than fucking Puffybutt’s ugly wife.
Rompin Rudy’s lack of ANY social conservative credentials will keep millions of Publican voters home. His multiple marraiges (one to a cousin) his cross-dressing – his own kids not speaking to him – his shady financial dealings – and of course his pro-choice views – make certain that we’ll win the White House by the largest margin in recent history. I sense a double-digit win once you throw in a little truth-telling about how 9.11 was made WORSE by this fucker and his ties to the Bush regime and the most unpopular war in decades.
RR I see us getting a VETO-proof majority in 08. This will make it impossible for the right wing to continue their goal of destroying America and our freedom. Perhaps we can then go about putting all these right wing bastards in jail where they belong, starting with that gay-escort-loving Karl Rove.
Now that we’ve run that neo-con Wolfie out of his post, let’s get the job done on the most crooked AG in American history – I predict Bush’s butt-boy Alberto is gone this time next week.
One-by-one, we are knocking them down. Indicting, investigating, jailing and laughing at the most incompetent, corrupt group of asshole Publicans ever. HE HE! Sucks to be a rightie.
WHERE’S PUDDYBUD THIS MORNING?
CAN’T WAIT FOR THAT LOSER TO PRAISE GOLDY FOR LINKING TO WINGNUT DAILY.
Moonbat!s: The Republican party is not the party of mind-numbed goose-stepping jack booted thugs like your libtard fascist party is. Disagreements abound everyday.
If you disagree with abortion in the Donko Party, a woodshed visit is demanded by NARAL.
If you disagree with telling a girl to lie to authorities in the Donko Party, a woodshed visit is demanded by Planned Parenthood.
If you disagree with gay marriage in the Donko Party, a woodshed visit is demanded by GLA and GLAAD.
If you disagree with man-boy sex in the Donko Party, a woodshed visit is demanded by NAMBLA.
If you disagree with child porn viewing in the Donko Party, a woodshed visit is demanded by Virginia ex-ACLU President.
If you disagree with GITMO visitor treatments in the Donko Party, a woodshed visit is demanded by ACLU.
If you disagree with your constituents taking Jack Abramoff contributions in the Donko Party, a woodshed visit is demanded by Carl Levin & Debbie Stabenow.
If you disagree with why liberal radio sucks in the Donko Party, a woodshed visit is demanded by Dennis Kucinich.
Shall I continue?
Cluelessman: What Voice of Chalk Scratching links to is apparent. This is his blog.
I said you are a non-critical thinker. You are a cut and paster and a plagiarizer. Lately, you started using my BULLSHITTIUM.
Cluelessman, critical thinking requires a mind. I’m sorry to say…, you proved beyond a shadow of doubt there is nothing in your cranial orifice resembling human brain matter!
Cluelessman: See your “big” tent in #18.
Oh there’s more.
If you disagree with nepotism hiring in the Donko Party, a woodshed visit is demanded by John Effin Kerry and Harry Reid.
If you disagree with helping your husband line his pockets with government contracts in the Donko Party, a woodshed visit is demanded by Dianne Feinstein.
If you disagree with carbon credits not being a sham in the Donko Party, a woodshed visit is demanded by Al eGore.
If you disagree with taking your constituents to a Jack Abramoff skybox in the Donko Party, a woodshed visit is demanded by Byron Dorgan and Tom Harkin.
If you disagree with your constituents taking Jack Abramoff contributions in the Donko Party, a woodshed visit is demanded by Carl Levin & Debbie Stabenow.
If you disagree with filing erroneous trip reports in the Donko Party, a woodshed visit is demanded by Nancy Pelosi, Neil Abercrombie and Barney Frank.
If you disagree with disclosing land sales on your annual public ethics reporting form the Donko Party, a woodshed visit is demanded by Harry Reid.
But all the items I’ve identified so far are business as usual for Moonbat!s for the most “ethical” congress to date!
Shall I continue?
Oh darn Cluelessness: I didn’t mention William Jefferson Clinton in any of #18 or #20.
Those were the ones that immediately popped into my mind. If I sit down and really think about it Cluelessman, I could pull a Pelletman and sit here all day writing about the “Rainbow Coalition” of the NEW Democratic Party, where woodshed visits are demanded when you stop reading the Michael Moore/MoveOn Script or spit out the kool-aid!
Funny how that is!
If the presidential race in 2008 is between Hillary and any Republican, the Republican will win. In much of the country, Hillary is hated beyond belief.
If we have a Republican win in 2008, the government will be divided. When a government is divided, it’s generally good for the whole country because no one political party can do as much damage. Look at the mess created by the Republicans when they had the House, Senate and White House in recent years. And don’t forget the times when Jimmy Carter and the Democrats were running things.
Yep, it’s best to keep the government divided.
Oh I have to say this one:
If you disagree with accepting $100,000 in cash in bribe money to bribe a foreign official and hiding the money in your freezer in the Donko Party, a woodshed visit is demanded by William Jefferson D-LA.
Chuck Hagel, Al Gore, etc.
PelletMan, my ‘bots are at work so I don’t have to work so hard.
Do you know what ‘bots are? Oops… dumb question… you are a mind-numbed goose-stepping jack booted robot!
Too bad you’ll never be a Mr Data. He remembered everything he was exposed to. The only thing we’re expose to are the multitudinous pellets you drop as three and four word entries on this blog!
Hey headlice when are you going to answer my three questions? And don’t tell me you didn’t read them.
So headlice this ain’t you?
Washington School Information Processing Cooperative
You have to love Fred Thompson.
First he dispenses with Michael Mooron here: http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=611
and now he dispenses with Dennis Kucinich and his Fairness Doctrine here: http://tinyurl.com/2vjlg3
Pelletman: I have to check in on my ‘bot report so I’ll be gone for a while.
See ya!
Run Darcy Run
Please run Darcy Burner again…..Please.
The Second Event
“9/11.2” Just weeks before the election of 2008, the Liberian registered cruiseship, Fanataseas, set off el Qaeda’s first atomic bomb beneath the Golden Gate Bridge. President Bush and Vice-President Pelosi were immediately rushed to Guantanamo to secure them from possible indigenous terrorists. In the now famous, “Dawn over Havana Meeting” they appeared with President Raul Castro, to announce that Western Hemisphere nations had united behind the staggered colossus of the north to prevent any wide spread violence and bring aid to the stricken regions of New York and New Jersey. Castro’s kind gesture would later lead to the Monrovian alliance and the formation of the Hemispheric Union (see Treaty of Bolivar).
Of course the immediate and intended effect was on the US election. As later revealed in the biography of Caliph Mouassa Ali, this was the intent of Osmar bin Laden,(see founder of el Qaeda, first president of Islamic Republic of Arabia). The American voters immediately turned away from the likely election of Mrs. Clinton (see William Clinton, Martha Stewart, Chief Justice Rodham) and vice Presidential candidate Stephen Jobs (see Apple-Sony) to the more militant Rudolph Giuliani and Thomas Franks(see war crimes trial, Montreal ).
The overwhelming election of November 2008, leading to the “permanent majority” is well described in the 2011 edition of “A Handmaid’s Tale, II” by Margaret Attwood. Senator Atwood, writing from her home in the breakaway province of Free Cascadia, tells how the believers of America and teh Islammic Umaya finally found common cause leading to the restoration of the Caliphate.
History of the Islamic Century, Daoud ibn Saladin, New Mecca Press 2210
“9/11.2″ Just weeks before the election of 2008, the Liberian registered cruiseship, Fanataseas, set off el Qaeda’s first atomic bomb beneath the Golden Gate Bridge. President Bush and Vice-President Pelosi were immediately rushed to Guantanamo to secure them from possible indigenous terrorists. In the now famous, “Dawn over Havana Meeting” they appeared with President Raul Castro, to announce that Western Hemisphere nations had united behind the staggered colossus of the north to prevent any wide spread violence and bring aid to the stricken regions of New York and New Jersey. Castro’s kind gesture would later lead to the Monrovian alliance and the formation of the Hemispheric Union (see Treaty of Bolivar).
Of course the immediate and intended effect was on the US election. As later revealed in the biography of Caliph Mouassa Ali, this was the intent of Osmar bin Laden,(see founder of el Qaeda, first president of Islamic Republic of Arabia). The American voters immediately turned away from the likely election of Mrs. Clinton (see William Clinton, Martha Stewart, Chief Justice Rodham) and vice Presidential candidate Stephen Jobs (see Apple-Sony) to the more militant Rudolph Giuliani and Thomas Franks(see war crimes trial, Montreal ).
The overwhelming election of November 2008, leading to the “permanent majority” is well described in the 2011 edition of “A Handmaid’s Tale, II” by Margaret Attwood. Senator Atwood, writing from her home in the breakaway province of Free Cascadia, tells how the believers of America and teh Islamic Umaya finally found common cause leading to the restoration of the Caliphate.
History of the Islamic Century, Daoud ibn Saladin, New Mecca Press 2210
Goldy,
I actually disagree and think Rudy would be the strongest of the current gop crop to beat. The nuts are just making noise but will hold their nose and vote for him. If he gets the nomination he will be forced to pick a strong family values type idiot for his running mate, i.e.Kemp in 96. The trick for Rudy will be getting the nomination. The other advantage for Rudy will be his ability to slip away from the Iraq mess. Far easier for him than the box McCain has got himself in.
Robin
You were prophetic. See my post 32.
PUDDYSTUPID:
YOU SHOULD BE FLATTERED I USE YOUR BULLSHITIUM. IMAGINE THAT. SOMEONE LIKE ME BORROWING SOMETHING FROM AN IDIOT LIKE YOU.
WANT IT BACK? TAKE IT.
PLAGIARIZER? WHAT ABOUT YOU TAKING “FUWA” FROM MTR?
WHAT YOU TAKING “LIBTARD” FROM ROBTARD?
SHREDDED AGAIN…
I’ve always thought that Puddybud tries to be reasonably honest in his opinions, I’ll have to continue that by saying that he apparently believes the tripe that he’s been told about Democrats supporting NAMBLA and child porn, and all the other absurd comments that he’s posted.
But Puddybud, somewhere down deep in your heart you must know that what you’ve just posted is simply untrue, but you are so blinded by partisanship that you refuse to look at it.
I’m really not sure who you’re trying to reach with your posts. Certainly, you must understand that when you start out by calling us names, that whatever else you’re trying to get across will fall on deaf ears. Are you just posting for the pleasure of insulting us? Is that something that you really want to do?
Yes, you get insulted here. It’s a left-wing blog, and even if somehow you originally got here by mistake, you must realize that by now. Many here are not kind to right-wingers, but those right wing types that are actually trying to generate a bit of understanding between the parties understand that they cannot give in to the temptation to respond in kind.
So, there are really only two reasons for a right-wing person to post here.
1) You think that there is a particular point that you can make that might get some folks here to consider your point of view
— or —
2) You simply want to ridicule people you disagree with.
Certainly, you don’t think that your posts on this thread are likely to convince anyone to consider your point of view. The posts are simply deliberate insults to all Democrats, including me.
So, that leaves us with option number two. I understand the temptation to ridicule people that I disagree with. To my shame, I’ve even given in to that temptation on occasion.
But you seem to do it in the majority of your posts. Is that really the person you are? More to the point, is it the person you want to be?
Frankly, Mr. Pope and Janet S and even Christmasghost are far more effective in their posts. They make arguments that occasionally get people here to at least consider that they might have a point.
From a purely partisan perspective, I should just let you rant. It keeps anyone from even looking at your opinions, while solidifying folks in my party. We can look at your posts and say “see, this is what the Republicans really think of us.”
But I like debate, and I think that it’s important for differing perspectives to be considered. You’re intelligent enough to make effective points in a way that will get at least some people to understand them, even if they don’t agree.
I suppose that’s one reason I keep going after you. It’s because I haven’t given up on you.
AND THE STUPID LISTS THAT YOU “BORROW” FROM NEWSWHACKOS OR SOME OTHER WINGNUT PUBLICATION DOESN’T ERASE THE FACT THAT MINIONS OF THE CORRUPT PARTY YOU WORSHIP ARE GOING TO JAIL OR RESIGNING IN DISGRACE IN DROVES. A FEW DEMS STUPID ENOUGH TO JOIN THE BANDWAGON OF THE LAST 12 YEARS MAY RESIGN OR GO TO JAIL AS WELL – AS THEY SHOULD.
NO MATTER – YOUR CORRUPT PARTY IS GOING OUT OF POWER FOR A GENERATION OR MORE AND THE ADULTS ARE TAKING THEIR PLACE.
Our legislature should pass a law providing a civil remedy for interference with a person’s voting rights. Any person who falsely or negligently challenges the registration of a voter who turns out to be entitled to vote, should be liable to the voter who costs and attorney fees, and liquidated damages of $5,000; except that, if the voter was prevented from voting by the wrongful challenge, the liquidated damages will be doubled; and if the voter is a minority protected by the Federal Voting Rights Act, he or she will be entitled to treble damages.
@23 “In much of the country, Hillary is hated beyond belief.”
Congratulations, righties. Your hate-propaganda machine works.
In all of the country, Republicans are despised beyond belief; but they deserve to be.
Dream GOP ’08 Ticket: Rompin Rudy & Flip Flopping Mitt
@16 The reassuring thing about American voters is they are patient, and will trust a politician (or party) for a long time, but once they leave they never come back.
I do believe America will come to its senses. People know Republicans are charlatans, but they have to go through a process of assimilating and accepting the truth about allowing themselves to be duped.
I predict when they finally achieve clarity of thought, they will be very very very angry at the people who duped them.
What follows is going to be an awful lot of fun to watch.
Dingbat! puddy @19 “The Republican party is not the party of mind-numbed goose-stepping jack booted thugs”
Yeah, it is. Click here for photo of GOP rally.
http://www.gwu.edu/~ww2/pics/march.gif
@26 “PelletMan, my ‘bots are at work so I don’t have to work so hard.”
Yes, Dingbat! puddy, we know you’re living on the sweat of the working class. All your commentary on HA exudes your robber-baron mentality.
JOHN,
PUDDYBUD STARTED HERE WITH THE WORDS “MOVEON.PORK” AND “DEMOCRAPIC” FLOWING FROM “HIS KEYBOARD” (SATISFIED PB?).
HE NEVER WAS INTERESTED IN REASONED DEBATE. HE CAME FROM (UN)SP THINKING HE WAS SMARTER THAN EVERYONE ELSE. HE’D BLATHER HERE AND GO OVER TO (UN)SP AND CALL THE PEOPLE HERE NAMES WHO WERE SERIOUSLY ANALYZING THE EVIDENCE FOR THE 2004 GOVERNOR’S ELECTION CONTEST.
OUR SIDE CAME OUT ON TOP.
PUDDYBUD ALONG WITH OTHER WINGERS THEN HUNG AROUND TO GLOAT WHEN I-912 (REVENGE OF THE WINGNUTS) WAS PUT ON THE BALLOT. INDEED EVERYONE THOUGHT THAT WAS GOING TO PASS. ANTI-TAX BALLOT INTIATIVES HAVE HAD A GOOD RECORD OF WINNING.
BIG SURPRISE ON THAT ONE AND THANKFULLY DUE TO GOLDY’S GOOD WORK, DAVID IRONS JR WAS ROUTED FOR KING COUNTY EXEC. PUDDYBUD LOST AGAIN.
ALL DURING THIS TIME, WINGNUTS LIKE PUDDYBUD SAID THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY WAS GOING TO GO THE WAY OF THE WHIG PARTY. THE NOV 2006 ELECTION WOULD FINALLY CONFIRM THAT ONCE AND FOR ALL. THEN THE CASCADING CORRUPTION SCANDALS CAME CRASHING DOWN: CUNNINGHAM, NEY, ABRAMOFF, SAFAVIAN, FOLEY, HAGGARD AND ON AND ON.
PUDDYBUD LOST AGAIN.
PUDDYBUD IS STILL LOSING BECAUSE HE CHOSE AND CLINGS TO THE PATH OF LOSING. THAT IS WHY HE IS STILL HERE. NOV 2008 WILL BE THE ULTIMATE TEST FOR PUDDYBUD. WITH A DEM IN THE WHITE HOUSE AND A DEM SUPER-MAJORITY IN CONGRESS, WILL PB STAY OR WILL HE GO?
HE WILL STAY BECAUSE HE IS ADDICTED TO RIGHT-WING PROPAGANDA AND NOTHING GIVES HIM MORE JOY THAN COPYING AND PASTING IT WITH A FEW CHOICE INSULTS MIXED IN. I PREDICT AN UNPRECENDTED ORGY OF HATE SPEECH COMING FROM THE RIGHT AFTER NOV 2008 THAT WILL MAKE THE REACTION TO CLINTON’S 1992 VICTORY LOOK WEAK.
PUDDYBUD WILL BE IN HIS ELEMENT.
As usual, Dingbat! puddy punctually disappeared at 9 a.m. Here’s Dingbat! puddy’s schedule:
7 AM to 9 AM – post on HA
9 AM to 10 AM – commute to work
10 AM to 11 AM – work
11 AM to 2 PM – take 3-hour break to post on HA
2 PM to 3 PM – work
3 PM to 4 PM – commute to home
4 PM to bedtime – post on HA about how “hard” he “works” to “earn” his money
@36 “he apparently believes the tripe that he’s been told about Democrats supporting NAMBLA and child porn, and all the other absurd comments that he’s posted”
No, he doesn’t. No sentient being could believe that tripe, unless he was drugged.
PUDDYBUD:
I HAVE TO ADMIT. THE REPUBLICANS ARE BIT MORE EFFICIENT. THERE’S ONLY ONE WOODSHED FOR REPUBLICANS WHO WANDER OFF THE RESERVATION.
Now back to our regularly scheduled thread (sorry about the long personal, but I’ve asked Puddybud to contact me off-line, with no response to date.)
In reality, Mr. Giuliani might be a bigger threat than some of the others. I’m not convinced that Dr. Dobson and the rest of the “leaders” of that group really have any more influence with the Republicans than Reverend Jackson or Reverend Sharpton have with Democrats.
And, his being against them might encourage all those Republicans that are sick of having their party apparently run by the religious right to come back and vote Republican again.
It’s been pretty well shown that the religious right had very little actual influence on any topic that was important to the right wing. Lots of lip service, but little effective action. Even on abortion, the single most polarizing issue on the table, the actual results must be pretty disappointing to Dr. Dobson and his crowd.
(You’d think that Republican leaders don’t want to do anything that might make any real changes to the current situation, where they can rant and rage about the evil pro-choice candidates.)
But perceptions are reality in politics, and many Republicans are sick of the perception that their party is being run by the Moral Majority and Focus on the Family. Lots of those folks are looking at Democrats, and others are looking at third party options. (Libertarians should be gathering these folks in, but they seem to be too busy complaining about how they’re being ignored.)
No, I think that the Republicans would gain far more than they lose by running Mr. Giuliani. He may not be as vulnerable as we would like to think. We should be hoping that they run someone that Dr. Dobson would actually support. Maybe we could we start a “Draft Newt” campaign for them.
C’mon, Republicans. You know you want him. Go, Newt! (Please?)
“It’s been pretty well shown that the religious right had very little actual influence on any topic that was important to the right wing.”
Newsweek columnist Jonathan Alter addresses this very issue in the current issue. Basically, he says that Falwell was “famous, but not important.” That’s because Falwell had very little actual influence, probably added little or nothing to Reagan’s vote in 1980, and Pat Robertson and Ralph Reed had far more to do with organizing the Religious Right into a voting bloc than Falwell did. Alter did give Falwell credit for establishing a university that his 20,000 students and “qualified teachers,” which “is not easy to do,” which is likely to be Falwell’s most enduring (really, his only) legacy.
The Religious Right has been screwed by Bush, who paid lip service to their agenda, but did nothing meaningful to get it enacted. Bush is a one-dimensional leader who has devoted himself to serving the interests of big corporations and the rich.
Religiously motivated rightwing voters are fickle. They’re very capable of staying home in droves. In fact, before Reagan most of them were dropouts from voting and participation in politics. Efforts to organize them into a voting bloc to promote their agenda turned them into GOP activists and brought them back to polling places, but they’ve gotten precious little return on their enormous investment of time, effort, and money.
At some point, they’ll realize they’ve merely been used by the GOP power brokers who are only interested in making corporations more powerful and the wealthy even richer. While their disgust with the Republican leadership is of a different character than ours, and for different reasons, nevertheless the disenchantment of this group is inevitable in light of the Republican Party’s persistent ignoring of their wants. At some point, they’ll walk, and since they have no alternative political party to walk to, they’ll go back into their former state of apathy and non-participation and non-voting.
That Giuliani is even being discussed at all is an indication of the weakness of the GOP field. 2008 is shaping up to be a great year for Democrats and, therefore, the nation.
@38
Roger – I’d accept those penalties for interfering with a legal voter, provided the penalties for illegal voting were just as harsh. Non-citizens, dead people and felons** don’t get to vote. Organized vote fraudsters like ACORN should be doing hard time in the Federal pen.
** Unless they’ve had their voting rights restored via the courts.
Dobson and various candidates notwithstanding, even Republican strategists have said (off record) that actually reversing Roe vs Wade would put Republican candidates out of business for years.
It’s the analogue of “tax and spend Democrats” – rhetoric.
Al Gore said yesterday that he has NOT ruled out another run at the presidency.
Al Gore vs. any GOP = Dem victory. Priod. I’ll take wagers from wing nuts who don’t mind losing their money if Al Gore opts to run.
GBS
Hello Moonbat!s:
I am away but I had to check in.
PelletHead, the ‘bots are running just fine thank you. Sweat for my efforts? What an IDIOT! Keep checking up on me. Keep sitting on that fat dumb ass.
John, I’ll contact you. You missed my satire? Some of those were satiric and others were actual actions of Donk!
What only Cluelessman can use satire? Half of my complaints were about the “abhorrent” actions by Liberals claiming to “look out” for our kids. I’m sorry John, I guess I should have break it down for you.
Got to go now. Oh… Cluelessness, you’ll see I am not posting from home base!
Keep thinking trees have feelings and Hilary is the greatest thing since sliced bread!
See ya Moonbat!s
BTW John, when I posted nicely without swearing as Reckless, without antagonism, without innuendo, just posting facts, it fell on deaf ears.
Goldy you must have struck a nerve with the traitor Puffybutt. His wild attempts at deflection show just how badly this news worried him. If he really thinks that somehow his fellow bible-thumpin right wing nutjobs are gonna forgive Rompin Rudy because of something some low-level Democratic politician is accused of by Newsmax, he’s dumber than even I thought he was.
Puffybutt the traitor says…
“BTW John, when I posted nicely without swearing as Reckless, without antagonism, without innuendo, just posting facts, it fell on deaf ears.”
Don’t you just love it when a so-called Christian tries to justify acting like a devil’s asshole?
Pud @ 19
Yet the Democratic Senate Majority Leader is pro-life! So different from what you assert. How strange.
Don’t bother Puffybutt with facts. Slows down his 23 IQ!
Lib @ 23
That assertion could stand some support. Nationwide, her “favorable opinion” percentage is 50%.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/p.....7-poll.htm
The four most recent polls with a head-to-head matchup between Clinton and Guilani show Clinton winning in two, Guiliuani winning in one, and one tied.
http://www.realclearpolitics.c.....ional.html
Check it out for yourself. She beats McCain in four of the last five, and beats Mitt Romney in all of them.
Go figure. Republicans just aren’t that popular.
However, the point of the post was specifically that a a Guilani candidacy for Republicans would hurt their chances down-ticket, where the candidate will almost certainly NOT convice moderate voters to cross over.
John @ 48
Again, the post was really about a Giuliani candidacy hurting down-ticket races where GOP base turnout is potentially more important.
But let’s think about your take. The last few elections pivoted on the GOP side on turnout, turnout, turnout, and BASE turnout at that. It was all about Karl Rove realizing that the huge moderate “center” everyone kept opining about and seeming to visualize kind of sloshing back and forh to elect candidates who “moved to the center” really didn’t exist; that the country is really very polarized, and the so-called “moderates” are really just weak partisans who nonetheless vote for one party or the other more or less exclusively; and that thus relentlessly turning out the base was the true path to victory and that moving to the center just depressed base turnout (keeping in mind that we are talking nationally).
We also witnessed a larger base turnout working to elect Democrats on 2006 (although some moderate Dems gained victories in swing states, it was a base turnout project niontheless.
In that scenario, if Rudy depresses the base, he won’t pick up enough “moderate” votes to win, and would lose by a very few percentage points.
Keeping in mind also that if Rudy gets the nomination his campaign will be FEAR FEAR FEAR 24/7.
Delbert:
What you fail to realize about the ACORN scandal is that the fraud was against ACORN.
Voter registration drives are held to get more voters, especially more voters that subscribe to the same political views as you do.
The people that pulled the stunt with ACORN were just trying to pick up some extra money by padding their registration numbers. The people and parties supporting ACORN got no benefit from that stunt, nor were they likely to.
Of course, that leads us to the point that ACORN (and other groups) need to be more careful about how they set up their internal systems, to prevent unscrupulous people from abusing the system.
So we can agree that the folks that actually committed deliberate fraud should go to jail. Those people did the Democrats and liberals far more damage than they did to Republicans, and they committed and act that did every one of us (both sides) a grievous injury.
Puddybud:
Ok, if that’s the way you want to continue to post, then go ahead. I give up. Hope you enjoy taking over for JCH as the official HorsesAss punching bag. He got a lot of responses to his posts too, but didn’t convince anyone of anything.
One favor, please. Cease using my name when preaching. I think you’re actually pushing people away from Christianity, and do not support your putting stumbling blocks in the way of people that might otherwise be willing to at least listen to Christians.
Daddy Love:
Good points. I’m not sure that I agree, because we have a lot of “small c” conservatives that used to vote straight (or nearly straight) Republican, and are now starting to at least consider the Democratic candidates.
Yes, the religious right tends to vote in a block, and is pretty good at getting out their vote, so in some areas we’ll get hurt by them.
But I think that is offset by the number of Republicans that are disenchanted with the religious right movement. Getting those folks to consider Democrats is a major, long-term victory for us.
And this coming election is possibly the best time for us to do that. The chances of us losing control of Congress is miniscule, and unless the Republicans can pull off some sort of miracle, they’ll lose the White House in 2008 to almost anyone we are likely to run.
I admit to some seriously mixed feelings about the whole scenario. If they run someone acceptable to Dr. Dobson and his crowd, they are almost certainly finished as a major party, and while I greatly prefer having the Democrats dominate the government over having the Republicans dominating, I see a need for some balance.
I’d really prefer that they somehow get their house in order and become the party that the few honest folks left over there want them to be. While such a party would be more difficult to beat in elections, they would do far less damage (and possibly even some good) if they got into power.
@65
John-
ACORN has shown a pattern of fraudulent voter registration in 2003, 2004, and 2006 in Missouri. Disavowing those that have been caught (and now convicted) seems a bit disingenuous and very likely.
Relevant bits below.
“(A) ACORN Linked To Voter Registration Fraud In Missouri
In September 2003, St. Louis Election Board workers discovered more than 1,000 suspicious new voter registration forms among a batch of 5,000 submitted by ACORN.”
(D) Corrupted Voter Rolls And Double-Voting In Missouri
In May 2004, Democrat State Auditor Claire McCaskill released an audit finding that the St. Louis Election Board’s voter files included dead people, felons and Illinois residents. McCaskill’s audit found that “nearly 10 percent, or 24,000, of the city’s registered voters are either dead, been convicted of a felony, registered in another jurisdiction or otherwise questionable.”
SeattleJew’s 2008 scenario is interesting indeed. What may be a more plausible concern is that if Congress doesn’t thoroughly dismantle the Bush/Rove/Gonzo “Department of Just Us” (thank you, Dave Horsey!) we might still see a pre-election “putsch” facilitated either by the indictment of a large number of Democratic candidates or the arrest of very large numbers of Democratic voters. None of this would be on valid charges, just a lot of bullshit paperwork–but if it’s done close enough to the election to monkey-wrench the result…well, I don’t think I need to draw a picture.
Barring that, Gore could be considered partly responsible for getting us into this mess by not more vigorously challenging the hijacking of the 2000 election. So, if he wants to get himself elected and clean it up, fine–the sumbtich OWES us!
Puddybud @ 58:
“when I posted nicely without swearing as Reckless, without antagonism, without innuendo, just posting facts, it fell on deaf ears.”
When you say “facts” do you mean your “Able Danger” type of “facts”, or do you mean facts and as in:
FACT
Definition:
1. something known to be true: something that can be shown to be true, to exist, or to have happened kind of facts?
I’m jis axin’ cuz suma yo’ facts be wrong.
@67 ACORN is a community group that works for affordable housing, living wages, education, the environment, Katrina relief, against predatory lending and registers voters — exactly the kind of group wingnuts hate.
Have they had problems with some of the people they hired? Yes:
“On November 1, 2006, four part time ACORN employees were indicted in Kansas City, Missouri for voter registration fraud, after being caught, fired, and turned in by ACORN.”
http://tinyurl.com/27fsqe
While ACORN is taking responsibility for its failures and trying to clean up its act, administration officials do exactly the opposite:
“In 2005, Schlozman and DOJ were pressing for a lawsuit against Missouri accusing the state of failing to make a ‘reasonable effort’ eliminate ineligible people from voter rolls. The then US Attorney for Missouri, Todd Graves — whom Schlozman succeeded after Graves’ forced resignation — refused to sign off on the lawsuit, which was subsequently authorized by Schlozman himself. The suit named the newly elected Missouri secretary of state, Robin Carnahan – the daughter of the late governor Mel Carnahan, and … Senate candidate Jean Carnahan (who was narrowly defeated by Jim Talent) – as the defendant. On April 13, 2007 a federal judge dismissed the lawsuit, asserting that the Secretary of State couldn’t police local registration rolls and noting, further, that the government had produced no evidence of fraud. …
“In addition to the complaints regarding the lawsuit against the State of Missouri, described above, attention has focused on his lawsuit against several former employees of the activist group ACORN. In the summer of 2006, ACORN ‘paid workers $8 an hour to sign up new voters in poor neighborhoods around the country. Later, ACORN’s Kansas City chapter discovered that several workers filled out registration forms fraudulently instead of finding real people to sign up. ACORN fired the workers and alerted law enforcement.’ Schlozman, in a controversial move that appeared to violate longstanding Department of Justice policy, announced the indictments of four former ACORN workers just five days before the 2006 elections, during an extremely close Senate race between the incumbent Jim Talent and eventual winner Claire McCaskill. Joseph D. Rich, a 35-year veteran of the Department of Justice, and chief of its voting section from 1999 to 2005, wrote, in a Los Angeles Times op-ed, ‘Missouri had one of the closest Senate races in the country last November, and a week before the election, Schlozman brought four voter fraud indictments against members of an organization representing poor and minority people. This blatantly contradicted the department’s long-standing policy to wait until after an election to bring such indictments because a federal criminal investigation might affect the outcome of the vote. The timing of the Missouri indictments could not have made the administration’s aims more transparent.'”
http://tinyurl.com/35j42r
My oil stock is up another $2.22 today! I thought about taking profit, but you stupid humans are still burning as much gas as you can get your paws on, so I think I’ll wait a little while because my stock is sure to go up some more as we move into summer tire-squealing season! Thanks for your business, suckers! I appreciate your money.
Last night some fucking jackass in a pickup truck was showing what a studmuffin he was by weaving through traffic at about 90 going south on I-5 past Northgate. Apparently he cut in front of someone, causing the driver of that vehicle to swerve and precipitate a three-vehicle pile-up against the Jersey barrier along the center lane. I don’t know whether they caught the jerk or not.
Not much from Puffybutt in the last few hours on this thread. The dayroom at the sex offender unit must be closed so he has no access.
@74 He has to work between 2:00 and 3:00 so he can get home by 4:00 and start posting on HA at 4:15. See #47 above for puffy’s schedule.
Pelletman: Keep my schedule in your head and you’ll be overloaded.
Unlike you Stupidman, whom sits at home sucking on mommy’s tit in Depends, I had to do some work. Network ‘bots working well, and… server determinations operating nominally.
Pelletman, the demagogue for the left, Do you remember what I do for a living? If you can’t figger it out maybe some Ginko Biloba will help.
John, I post the idiocy of the left uncut.
Sorry if that bothers you. If you are passionate on GLA and GLAAD activities, if you like NAMBLA, if you need an ACLU lawyer, go for it!
Because Pelletman, and this will be the LAST comment unless you can remember what I do for a living, just STFU and continue to have your bad hare day!
seattlejew….what a sicko you are! wishful thinking again? oh, let me guess….this is just your CREATIVE writing, right?
freak…….
and to the other seattlejew…goldy…..man, you really have it BAD for that hideous burner don’t you?
gawd…you are so transparent. does she know you don’t work and never will?
this is the hillary model you are following huh? you get into politics through the back door? geez…to do that at least be as smart as hillary [how hard could THAT be?]and find a candidate with some class and draw. you know…like your ex wife.
PUDDYBUD: I DON’T TAKE ANYTHING YOU WRITE SERIOUSLY. FACTS SNEAK IN BY ACCIDENT.
YOUR CRAP IS 99 PERCENT RIGHT WING BULLSHIT.
Yes Cluelessman@82: 18 & 20 were “RW BS” as you small paramecium determined. Unfortunately for you none of that came from “RW BS” sites.
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Oops 19 & 21.
John Barelli @ 37:
Hey, Puddybud, like me, likes to throw fireballs on this blog. I do it for entertainment value mostly and to make an occasional point. Puddybud does it for his own reasons I’m sure and he may explain them to some time. Maybe over lunch. (A little side advice, if you wait from him to “buy” it’ll be 12-18 months.)
In person, he’s a nice guy. Reasoned, but with a different point of view to say the least. He’ll listen to your point of view, and if you’re persuasive enough, he might “give you that point” or even agree with you outright.
Overall, all BS aside, he’s a good guy. Now that I know him, it’s why I’m comfortable joking with him about race or getting into serious discussions about religion.
He is a big “sum-bitch” too. I would recommend not getting on his bad side unless you’re pretty sure you can back it up. Although, I’m not worried about him because in the samy way Samson had a weakness, so too does Puddybud. And I know what it is.
Even if he didn’t have a weakness, I’m pretty confident in my skills that I could take that “Big Brother From Another Mother.” Although, I wouldn’t arm wrestle him for money, rumor is he’s been working out with the iron. That and he wrestles with his ‘blacak momba’ on a regular basis. Pretty hairy grip when you shake his hand if you know what I mean.
Cluelessman: Last year I challenged you to not visit Kos or Media Morons for a day at a time and I would stay away from Newsmax and Free Republic. You failed on the first day and I went almost 100 days.
Naah, you are the BULLSHITTIUM expert! You go into dementia tremors without that kool-aid drink.
GBS
While I appreciate that you have a perspective on Puddybud that I lack, he claims to represent a Christian point of view, and reinforces the stereotype that many liberals and Democrats have come to believe is the true face of my faith.
I find myself talking about Christianity around here far more than I probably should, just to try and show that we aren’t all hate-filled fireball throwers.
Despite his protests that he is not a follower of Dr. Dobson or Rev Falwell, or Rev Robertson, his rhetoric and intolerance closely reflects that of the followers of those individuals.
I hope that he is not the hate-filled, angry, intolerant bigot that he projects here on this blog. People like that tend to be miserable and filled with self-loathing. I feel sorry for them, as I have the option of leaving, or turning off the screen. They have to live with themselves, and I wouldn’t wish that on anyone.
But since he’s started dragging me into some of his religious arguments, and I think that he’s actively preventing people from even considering that we Christians might actually be reasonable people that have something to say, I’ve asked him to leave me out of his ranting, and I’m essentially putting him in the same category as Mr. Redneck and Mr. Minion.
They have nothing important to say, and are only trying to disrupt the conversation.
81 Cheese Whiz, Ghost….it’s Friday afternoon, for heaven’s sake. Grab a beer and calm down, willya?
The intensity of your post makes it sould like SeattleJew must have hit a nerve. From my point of view, his post (and mine that followed, for that matter) would seem pretty preposterous, except that seven years ago anyone positing that things would ever get to where they are now would have been laughed at, if not fitted for a strait jacket.
GBS: Damn you bring a smile to my face. June lunch is on. It may have to be a Monday or a Friday as my schedule is filling up fast.
I’m a luvva not a fighta unless provoked. I got the black mamba joke too, but that’s Stupidman with his Storeria occipitomaculata.
John:
Is there a gray area in religion?
What did God say about Laeodicia in Revelation?
There are specific tenets of the Bible which you choose to compromise which I choose not to. That’s our difference. Your side throws it’s refuse at me while you are blind to it. I guess Deuteronomy 28: 15-end has no meaning to you.
Now regarding Falwell, Dobson, and their ilk; they can have similar views but they diverge in many areas. You have similar views to Cluelessman, Stupidman and Pelletman. Good for you. I think many of their choices are foolish.
Pelletman calls it Cheap Labor Conservatives. When I PROVE his side has Cheap Label Liberals he discounts it. All he puts forth is rhetoric. His try at shoving down our throat the “voting” issues I go to the county and prove they are Moonbat!s. OMG I am a bad guy for this?
John when I post satirically 19 & 21 you went nuts. Each of those actions happened John. The difference is I love the sinner not the sin. Sin is sin John. It killed our Saviour. This is where we differ and this is where we’ll never see eye-to-eye.
Progressives like your friends say “drop dead I’m going to shut you up”. I agree with Mike Savage: Liberalism is a mental disorder!
PUDDYLIAR: I GO WHERE’S THERE’S FACTS. FREEPERLAND AND NEWSWHACKOS ARE PURE BULLSHIT.
IF YOU DIDN’T GO, YOU’D GO TO OTHER MURDOCH, SCAIFE, MOON PUBLICATIONS OR WINGNUTS BLOGS.
LINK? CITE? I WOULDN’T ACCEPT A BULLSHIT CHALLENGE LIKE THAT.
PUDDYSTUPID: THE MENTAL DISORDER THAT IS WINGNUTTIA WAS SOUNDLY REJECTED LAST NOVEMBER.
AND THAT’S ONLY THE START!!
90 “Is there a gray area in religion?”
Sadly, all too often there isn’t. People seem to like to hide behind their dogma instead of acting on logical thoughts and altrustic feelings. That in and of itself is really sad. Our Creator gave us hearts and brains, then may have been more than a little disappointed that he still had to provide us with written instructions.
I CAN’T BELIEVE PUDDYBUD THINKS 19 & 21 ARE WORTH THE PIXELS THEY’RE PRINTED WITH.
PURE BULLSHIT. WHERE’S THE INDICTMENTS (DELAY)? WHO’S SITTING IN JAIL (CUNNINGHAM, NEY)? WHO IS OUSTED FROM OFFICE IN DISGRACE (FOLEY, CRAZY CURT WELDON)?
IN 2008, THERE’S GOING TO BE A DEM IN THE WHITE HOUSE AND A DEM SUPER-MAJORITY IN CONGRESS – IT’S ALMOST A SURE THING.
ALMOST FORGOT!
WHERE ARE THE LOSERS? (BLACKWELL, STEELE)
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Cluelessman: You always ax me to prove my points. Every point I posted in 19 and 21 were from credible MSM sources. So I call BULLSHITTIUM on your 91 post.
I don’t answer to you Cluelessman.
I don’t answer to you Cluelessman.
I don’t answer to you Cluelessman.
I don’t answer to you Cluelessman.
I don’t answer to you Cluelessman.
You are now the great URL sleuth, each one of those I posted from Feinstein in the SJ Mercury News to the ex Virginia ACLU pres in the WA Post.
Good luck Cluelessman. I doubt you can handle the task.
Oh yes Cluelessman, Mike Steele was pariahed by liberals after they nuked their own Kweisi Mfume. Liberals don’t like blacks. Remember Carl McCall in NY against Andrew Cuomo? Kerry and blacks in his campaign or his shadow cabinet?
Ken Blackwell ran a bad campaign.
Give me a break Cluelessman. You of all people can’t speak about blacks in politics with the worthless record of Moonbat!s
PUDDYSTUPID – NO LINKS NO PROOF. THAT 19 AND 21 IS JUST THE SAME OLD PUDDY CRAPOLA. HALLUCINATIONS ABOUT NAMBLA AND THE ACLU – SAME OLD WINGER CRAP, JUST LIKE I TOLD MWS WHEN I FIRST SAW THAT LOSER COMMENT THE FIRST TIME.
OH SORRY. I FORGOT YOU AND MWS ARE THE SAME! LMAO!!!!
YOU IMPLIED I ACCEPTED A CHALLENGE FROM YOU – SHOW ME THE PROOF.
HEY PUDDY – BRING BACK MWS. I LIKE THE SHOUT OUTS YOU USED TO DO TO EACH OTHER.
“HANG TALL PUDDY!”
“JUST LIKE PUDDY SAID…”
“MWS, I LIKE YOUR STYLE…”
WHAT A NUTCASE! LMAO!!!
HEY PUDDYWHACKO – I PROVIDED A LINK TO YOUR “MOVEON.PORK” BULLSHIT.
YOU CAN’T BE BOTHERED BECAUSE YOU’RE FULL OF WINGNUT BULLSHIT!!!
LMAO!!!
HEY PUDDY – YOU WANT ME TO SHOW EVERYONE YOUR SHOUT OUTS TO MWS?
HILARIOUS!!
Cluelessman@98-101:
Snore zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
BTW Now you resort to veiled threats? That’s all in your arsenal? You do whatever you want.
I already provided the links earlier this year. Did you actually read post #96? Naah your Cluelessman, still clueless even after the intelligence bump received when you got married!
Speaking of liars Cluelessman: I remember November 2006 you said you were leaving HorsesAss only to visit occasionally. All you did was retrun as YOS LIB BRO Want to see the link?
PUDDYBUD – IT’S NOT A THREAT, IT’S A PROMISE.
YOU’RE NUTS AND WHY SHOULDN’T EVERYONE SEE THE PROOF?
LMAO!!!
Cluelessman, remember I can find just about anything. The big liar, Cluelessman said he was leaving. Here is his lie:
For the Clueless says:
Greeting fellow liberals,
We have won. Our victory march started in November 2004 with the questionable re-election of Preznit (I’ll never call him President) Bush. Here in Washington State when wingnuts should have celebrating, they were instead tearing their hair out when Christine Gregoire edged out the BIAW creature Dino Rossi. The wingnuts fought back hard with the reality-challenged hysterical ravings of Sharansky, his phony “orange” revolution and the election contest.
After judge-shopping and spending over two million dollars the wingnut-dominated Republicans lost big time. DISMISSED WITH PREJUDICE!
It was just the beginning. The wingnuts then tried to get revenge with I-912. Even most Dems and liberals thought they’d win that one. The people, sick and tired of squabbling and obstructionism on road construction that started with that greedy, self-promoting prick Eyman voted NO! These wingnuts tried to put up another BIAW creature, David Irons Jr., to oust Ron Sims. He was a woman abuser and a serial liar. Goldy exposed this poor excuse for a leader. The wingnuts lost again!
Now here it is 2006. We have organized, donated and doorbelled. We have taken back Congress and advanced our majority in the State Legislature. We have won! I’ll say it again. We have won!
However, the victory is also bittersweet. Some good people like Ned Lamont didn’t prevail. Darcy Burner may not pull through. That one is especially close to home and will hurt if it doesn’t go our way.
Back in 2004, I knew the wingnuts were corrupt and completely wrong. I used to hang out at (un)SP and its predecessor Shark Blog to bug the righties. Sharansky banned me once. It was over there that I discovered HA.org and I’ve been here ever since. I have skewered every wingnut I could with their lies, corruption and hypocrisy. It’s been fun most of the time but it’s also been tiring. So on a high note I announce my retirement from HA.org. [Such a liar]
I’m starting a blog of my own focused on lifestyle. It will be about 80 percent focused on living the good life, about 10 percent on something or another and only 10 percent on politics. The political commentary will be strictly limited to discussion of issues. I’ll come back here to HA.org under a new handle with a link to my blog to weigh in on issues. It won’t be very often. [Another big lie]
It’s been a great pleasure hanging out here. Some special thanks are due to Goldy. May your winning streak continue. More thanks to the inimitable Roger Rabbit. Your commentary has had me in stitches. Thank you. Some relative newcomers like rhp, Daddy Love and Proud Leftist have written excellent commentary. Thank you. Carl and Teresa Grossman have skewered the odious JCH and ProudAss – some of the most entertaining takedowns I’ve seen. Thank you so much. There are many more who have weighed in over the years. Thank you all.
We’ve come a long way to taking our country back. Now we have to keep what we’ve won and advance against the most corrupt regime in our memory. We still have more work to do to keep our country and clean up the godawful mess the right has made.
11/11/2006 at 10:19 am
The link: http://www.horsesass.org/?p=2215#comment-620684
That was post #15.
Yos Lib Bro first post, #156 appears at 11:10 PM
Cluelessman liar didn’t leave for four hours!
And… while I singlehandedly determined Cluelessman and Yos Lib Bro were the same mentally deranged Moonbat!
It took a Voice of Chalk Scratching rat out for you to figger out MSW and Puddy were the same.
You can change the name of the donk butt he’s still a HORSES ASS!
There’s one issue that all the other issues stem from and neither Goldy’s dream date nor anyone else from the two mainstream parties will do anything differently about it. The US needs to begin drawing down it’s empire. See Chalmers Johnson’s recent articles or the notion that Rick Steves had about a quick way to reduce the war budget. It was in an essay in the Seattle Times a year or so ago.
Again Moonbat!s, every thing I posted in #19 & 21 were identified in MSM links over the last few months. Cluelessman has no memory because he chooses not to read my links. That’s fine. That’s his choice. But don’t call my links unless you read them. And… he has the unmitigated gall to cry about my links when he plagiarizes from the most vile libtard sites, Kos and Media Matters without attribution, trying to hide the fact he drinks from the George Soros Kool-aid dispenser?
I will not repost what I post unless I WANT TO. Cluelessman ain’t my momma. He’s a deranged Moonbat!
DAMN! THAT WAS A FINE SPEECH. THANKS FOR POSTING THAT PUDDY! IT WAS ALL THE MORE BETTER BECAUSE IT HAD NOT ONE MENTION OF YOU!
LMAO!!!
YOU COULDN’T EVEN WAIT UNTIL I POSTED ONE OF YOUR “DIALOGS” WITH MWS. DON’T WORRY IT’LL COME!
LMAO!!!
Notice Moonbat!s, Cluelessman has admitted he lied.
Nice job!
No mention of the fact he posted as Yos Lib Bro the SAME DAY.
He always tries to slink away without saying anything pertinent. In fact he never says anything pertinent.
Liar and a plagiarizer!
His tombstone : Here lies Cluelessman, atheist, liar and plagiarizer!
NEW POLL SHOWS THAT 57% OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE BELIVE THAT FAT ASS HILLARY WILL SAY ANYTHING TO GET ELECTED.I WONDER IF SHE GETS ON HER KNEES FOR BILL.
PUDDYWHACKO: I’LL LET YOU SLIDE ON 19 & 21. IT’S OBVIOUSLY TOO MUCH TO ASK FOR YOU TO BACK UP THAT MUCH BULLSHIT.
HOWEVER, I’M STILL WAITING FOR THE PROOF OF THAT CHALLENGE YOU IMPLIED I ACCEPTED.
YOU REFUSE TO PROVIDE IT.
ATTRIBUTION? WHAT AN EFFIN’ LAUGH! I’VE CAUGHT YOU AGAIN AND AGAIN POSTING BULLSHIT FROM THE MOONIE TIMES AND NEWSWHACKOS OR WINGNUT DAILY WITHOUT ATTRIBUTION.
OH EXCUSE ME PUDDY! A LOT OF THOSE TIMES IT WAS MWS POSTING THE BULLSHIT!
LMAO!!!!
Cluelessman@116: Last time little man. Check the ‘Wipes archives. Each line in #19 was vetted by libtard MSM links. If you didn’t read them your loss. But you can search Google just like I did.
Now in less than one day Cluelessman becomes Yos Lib Bro. Then he tries to cover it up in posts above.
Why didn’t you leave Cluelessman? Liar!
Next he copies posts word for word from Kos and Media Matters without attribution. Plagiarizer!
Show me where I posted from NewsMax without attribution. I founf it in the MSM and you found it in MewsMax. What does that prove?
Caught in your own web of lies now you have to deflect. So when are you going back to Cluelessman?
What other doppelgangers are you using now? Because Clueless man you are OOAK!
ROTFLMAO ITSFWI
You should see what FMV is for that paramecium brain of yours? $.02 maybe.
You are still pizzed off I figured you out as Cluelessman. Then when I post your own lying words of leaving you deflect.
Standard playbook material for a libtard!
PUDDYBUD:
IT’S PRETTY OBVIOUS NOW WHY YOU CREATED MWS. IT WAS SO THAT YOUR ALIAS COULD POST WINGNUT BULLSHIT WHILE YOU POSTED FROM MSM. OR MAYBE IT WAS TO AVOID THE ROLLING PIN FROM THE WIFE.
NAAAAAAAAH!. IT WAS JUST BECAUSE YOU WERE NUTS!
LMAO!!!!
CORRECTION: ALWAYS WAS AND ALWAYS WILL BE TOTALLY LOONEY TUNES!!!
LMAO!!!
OH AND PUDDYBUD, I’M STILL WAITING FOR THE PROOF THAT I ACCEPTED A BULLSHIT CHALLENGE FROM YOU.