Join us at the Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally for an evening of politics under the influence. We meet at 8:00 pm at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E—some of us show up a little early to sample from the terrific menu.
If you find yourself in the Tri-Cities area this evening, check out McCranium for the local Drinking Liberally . Otherwise, check out the Drinking Liberally web site for dates and times of a chapter near you.
IAFF Fireman spews:
Why not meet up at a Union run restaurant? How about a tally of American Union made autos that your DL people arrive in, versus cars manufactured by foreign made companies? You chould change event name to Cheap Labor Liberals Drinking
ArtFart spews:
1 How about taking a nice, close look at your bunker gear, your BA and the radios on your rig and seeing how many labels there are that say MADE IN CHINA.
At least they still make LifePaks in Redmond…or do they?
Mr. Cynical spews:
IAFF
Actually these KLOWNS smuggle in their own cheap ass whine…2 Buck Chuck!
And they all use Mass Transit.
These lads walk their talk!!
Nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
Darryl spews:
IAFF “Fireman”,
“Why not meet up at a Union run restaurant?”
Why?
“How about a tally of American Union made autos that your DL people arrive in, versus cars manufactured by foreign made companies?”
I refuse to own the shitty Ford, GM, or Chrysler vehicles.
“You chould change event name to Cheap Labor Liberals Drinking”
I prefer “Free Market Liberals Drinking.”
Jane Balough's Dog spews:
IAFF, don’t you know that the unions are just a ploy by democrats to extort money from government and private individuals and turning it into political donations. Geeesh Where have you been.
Politically Incorrect spews:
No matter what you opinion of labor unions, do not drink liberally and drive tonight or any other night, please.
The Blatantly Obvious spews:
@ 6 , a very politically correct statement.
I agree.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@1 Why don’t you stop voting against unions and working people, hypocrite?
Roger Rabbit spews:
Roger Rabbit will not attend tonight for health reasons.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@1 (continued) What autos are made in the U.S. besides Hondas and Toyotas?
Roger Rabbit spews:
@5 Would someone please kick that fucking dog. Preferably in the nuts so he can’t reproduce. Felons shouldn’t have puppies because they set a lousy example as parents.
The Blatantly Obvious spews:
@ 11 , a very politically incorrect statement.
I agree.
Jane Balough's Dog spews:
I dont understand why everyone thinks Hillary lied about Bosinia. A democrat should always duck around US soldiers. roof roof
The Blatantly Obvious spews:
@ 13 and a republican should just stand there and take the nut kicking the soldiers would give a republican traitor.
And the spitting the troops would give the republican’s prone body.
Typical White Person (aka rob) spews:
I declare March 25, annual punch a migrant hippie in the nuts day. All you have to do is find a hippie that migrated here from another part of the world (not to difficult) ask them if they make fun of United States Soldiers war injuries (Darryl) and punch them in the nuts if they say yes.
Your participation will be appreciated.
The Blatantly Obvious spews:
I declare tomorrow March 26 “Kick rob in the nuts and spit on his prone body” day.
It’s easy, just find a mouth breathing, knuckle dragging, kool aid drunk, bat shit crazy, wingnut and kick them in the nuts. Then spit on them.
The mouth breathing, knuckle dragging, kool aid drunk, bat shit crazy, wingnut may not be rob, most wingnuts fit that description, but it doesn’t matter.
Either way America wins! And a lot of mouth breathing, knuckle dragging, kool aid drunk, bat shit crazy, wingnuts will be on the ground in the fetal position, covered in spit.
Typical White Person (aka rob) spews:
RE: 16, I guess you must be one of the migrant hippies?
The Blatantly Obvious spews:
@ 17, No. You must be one of those mouth breathing, knuckle dragging, kool aid drunk, bat shit crazy, traitorous wingnuts.
Jane Balough's Dog spews:
15
Could I just piss on his leg???? roof roof
The Blatantly Obvious spews:
18 cont. whose nuts will be awful sore tomorrow.
Typical White Person (aka rob) spews:
RE: 18, really” where are you from?
The Blatantly Obvious spews:
20 cont. and covered in spit.
The Blatantly Obvious spews:
@ 21 Seattle, dipshit.
I assume you are the result of the angry anal raping your father performed on your mother.
Typical White Person (aka rob) spews:
RE: 22, oooohhhh covered in spit too, what a tough guy. Where are you from again?
The Blatantly Obvious spews:
@ 24, hell, rob, have a child read @ 23 for you, moron.
Typical White Person (aka rob) spews:
Re: 23, I meant where were you born? Sorry most people would recognize my meaning but hippies are a bit dense. Must be all the illegal drugs they use that cause so many people’s murders.
The Blatantly Obvious spews:
Fuck, rob, you can’t read, can you?
Jane Balough's Dog spews:
Why do draft dodging democrats want to all of a sudden become war heros….. ah that’s right they are running for president. Nevermind.
Typical White Person (aka rob) spews:
RE: 27, It is obvious that you are a hippie, you cuss alot to make up for your lack of intelligence.
Let me ask you slow hippie, where were you born? If you were born in Seattle I have to change the premise of “Punch a Migrang Hippie in the Nuts Day” to just punch a Hippie in the nuts day to include you.
I am sorry if I did not include you.
Typical White Person (aka rob) spews:
*migrant
Roger Rabbit spews:
@15 “not to difficult”
Still can’t spell “too,” I see. You’re lucky you didn’t go to a parochial school or you wouldn’t have any knuckles left. http://www.thegvda.org/ugly_nun.JPG
Roger Rabbit spews:
@21 “where are you from”
I’m from America. What nuthouse are you from?
Roger Rabbit spews:
@28 Nobody wants to be a hero, but someone’s got to do it, because you Repukians won’t, so that leaves us.
Roger Rabbit spews:
rog drinks liberally at home.
Roger Rabbit spews:
rob
Roger Rabbit spews:
rog does too, but only for medicinal purposes. (koff koff)
Typical White Person (aka rob) spews:
RE: 33, Hillary Clinton, War Hero.
CBS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BfNqhV5hg4
Typical White Person (aka rob) spews:
Borack Obama: War Hero: This space is blank
Typical White Person (aka rob) spews:
John McCaain: War hero:
McCain retired from the Navy on April 1, 1981,[63] as a Captain.[64] During his military career, he received a Silver Star, a Bronze Star, the Legion of Merit, the Purple Heart and a Distinguished Flying Cross.[65]
Hannah spews:
@37-This whole thing with Hillary’s “minor blips” just pisses me off to no end! And the lies have been told time and time again during her campaign! My entire family (males) have been military and are all die hard republicans, when they heard this story, they laughed so hard…then got pissed!
I am for Obama while my family is for McCain, my cousin in Iraq, on and off since the beginning, for some reason is for McCain, but this Hillary story is soooo disrespectful to our entire country, let alone our military! While they are fighting for democracy, she is LYING about her trips around the world using it as “foreign policy”. If it was so damn dangerous, why did she allow Chelsea to go with her???
Jane Balough's Dog spews:
John Kerry’s military medical records: This space is blank.
This one too typical…roof roof.
My Left Foot spews:
38:
So being a war hero qualifies you to be president exactly how? It makes someone better than me, or you, exactly how?
Being a war hero somehow changes your character exactly how? (Keep in mind that the current war hero cheated on his first wife a sure sign of character, right?)
Please keep in mind that you are answering a veteran. The son of a genuine American war hero and the father of another. Please list your military service.
What a dipwad.
My Left Foot spews:
TWP (rob)
When one of you wingnuts gets going there is no stopping you. Please, by all means, continue your blathering and the nice cut and paste you have learned to do with your computer.
Moe-ron!
Roger Rabbit spews:
@41 “John Kerry’s military medical records: This space is blank.”
Of course you don’t expect a stupid dog to get this (or anything else) right. Kerry released his complete service record to 3 major news organizations. No, he didn’t give all of his personal information to the general public — neither did I, nor would you — why should he? News organizations act as proxies for the rest of us; if there had been anything there, they would have reported it. Now would someone please kick that fucking dog again, and again, and as many times as it takes to make sure he can’t have puppies.
My Left Foot spews:
Roger,
I am quite sure that Jane’s dog has been fixed. Hence the barking he does here to make himself feel whole.
Jane Balough's Dog spews:
My entire family (males) have been military and are all die hard republicans,
This is a indicator that she is telling the truth. If she said her “entire family (males) is military and they are all die hard democrats” you would know she was full of shit. On top of that it would be damn ass funny. roof roof
My Left Foot spews:
Becoming a hero is not something you set out to do. Most heroes do not know that they are heroes. They are both the victim and benefactor of circumstance. McCain is no different than anyone else who has been called a hero. He is no different from hundreds of thousand hero soldiers who have honorably served this country. He deserves no extra cache for being a “hero”.
Typical White Person (aka rob) spews:
RE: 42, Being a former member of the military in my opinion is a prerequisite for being Commander in Chief of the Military. As for my service I was in the Marines from 1970 to 1973 E5, my father was a lieutenant jg in the navy in during WWII and my grandfather served in the Navy before him.
You can take your typical liberal elite position and shove it.
Darryl spews:
Hey Puddybud,
Thanks for showing up at Drinking Liberally. It was a pleasure meeting you!
Hannah spews:
@46 – but remember all in my family are not die hard reps, my extended family seem to be majority dem. I am just pissed that Hillary’s lies are a slap in the face to my cousin currently serving in Iraq, and the rest of my retired military family members…she never stepped foot under fire!
Roger Rabbit spews:
Well let’s see. The only way Obama could get into the military would have been by volunteering, because we don’t have a draft anymore. He chose not to. That’s why a “volunteer” military is all about.
Chimpface volunteered for military service … in a manner of speaking. He volunteered for a nice, cushy, safe, stateside berth in the Texas Air National Guard so he wouldn’t get drafted in wartime. He used his congressman daddy’s pull to jump ahead of 200 other people for 1 of 2 open slots in the TANG unit in question. We taxpayers spent over $1 million training this baboon to fly combat jets only to get no useful service out of him because (a) he went AWOL, (b) he was grounded for refusing to take his flight physical, and (c) his brain was so fried by crack he couldn’t fly a paper airplane let alone a real one. Other guys were getting shot down in Vietnam while chimp rested on his daddy’s laurels, so to speak. His congressman daddy saved chimp’s bacon because anyone else would have been shot for desertion. This is what passes for a “war hero” in the GOP.
Remember Dan Quayle? Now there’s a “Vietnam Veteran” for you. That’s what Quayle called himself, even though he never got within 10,000 miles of Vietnam. Quayle was another one of our brave GOP Weekend Warriors. He used family pull to get in an Indiana National Guard journalism unit that was already 150% overstaffed. A fucking Journalism Unit, for chrissakes!! Quayle put a “Vietnam Veteran” bumper sticker on his briefcase. Then some real Vietnam Veterans came along and made him take it off.
There’s a term for pretending to be a war hero or a veteran when you’re not. It’s called “Stolen Honor.” There’s also a term for someone who smears and slanders real war heroes. He’s called a “Republican.” Republicans and stolen honor go together like piss and urinals.
Roger Rabbit spews:
what not why
Jane Balough's Dog spews:
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Well instead of giving it to the Boston Globe and other water boys for the left he should released it to Fox news. That way he would be credible. Bush released his military medical records to See BS (they actually forged documents to try to destroy his bid in 2004)…. Why can’t Kerry do the same for Fox????
My Left Foot spews:
46:
My entire family is military too. We are all proud Democrats, though in a moment of weakness my father voted for Nixon once, something he deeply regretted until his death. Your justification of someone’s veracity based on political party is full of shit. Just like you are.
Democrats love their country too.
Moe-ron.
Hannah spews:
Wierd story:
http://www.kirotv.com/politics.....etail.html
Kinda creepy they all seem to have some relation
Roger Rabbit spews:
As a real Vietnam Veteran, I’ll tell you straight up that I don’t consider Weekend Warriors to be “veterans.” They didn’t even qualify for veterans benefits, so why should they be allowed to call themselves “veterans”? They weren’t even real Rear Echelon Motherfuckers (REMFS). They were only REMF temps. They’re the guys we called when there was no bottom left in the barrel. To a real Vietnam Veteran like me, an NG was a fucking joke.
Roger Rabbit spews:
NGs were the guys 10,000 miles behind the REMFs.
Typical White Person (aka rob) spews:
RE: 51: Roger Rabbit Says: Well let’s see. The only way Obama could get into the military would have been by volunteering, because we don’t have a draft anymore. He chose not to. That’s why a “volunteer” military is all about.
You’re right rabbit, Obama didn’t volunteer like millions of Americans, he went to Harvard like most racist liberal punks.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@53 Kerry did the right thing by giving his record to real news media instead of your rightwing cartoon factory.
Hannah spews:
@54 – Did I say the dems in my family don’t love this country??? I actually question my cousin why he is voting McCain!!!
And you say “Your justification of someone’s veracity based on political party is full of shit.”
Where was I justifying ANYONES veracity????
Jane Balough's Dog spews:
54
If you are talking WWII or even Vietnam, I believe you. It’s just that there are very few democrats now in the active military. It has been that way for over 20 years.
Hannah spews:
@54 – The ONLY person I am questioning is HILLARY! As she has repeatedly lied about her trip to Bosnia! Obama needs to take advantage of this womans repeat lies! If she can lie about something we have video proof disputing, what can she lie to us about that goes on behind closed doors? GWB has lied enough for all of us, we do not need any more lies!
Roger Rabbit spews:
@58 “he went to Harvard”
I’ll bet you couldn’t get into Harvard even if you wanted to. They don’t take illiterate morons.
John Barelli spews:
Hannah
You’re getting incensed about a post that was directed to Jane’s dog, not you. Chill. Try some decaf, or even better, a Guinness.
Jane Balough's Dog spews:
@53 Kerry did the right thing by giving his record to real news media instead of your rightwing cartoon factory.
03/25/2008 at 10:12 pm
Your telling me. Someone had to make some BS, the liberal media is great at that.
Typical White Person (aka rob) spews:
RE: 54, You mean democrats like Jeremiah Wright and his best friend Barrack Hussein Obama?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M-kD0QdRJk
Roger Rabbit spews:
@62 I haven’t followed that story so I don’t know if Hillary told a lie or not, nor do I care. But let’s assume, arguendo, she did. I find it strange you criticize her for a relatively little lie, yet never once have you ever criticized chimpface for any of his huge lies. In fact, I can’t remember you ever criticizing any Republican for anything on this blog. Could it be that’s because “Hannah” is really “Wingnut Hannah”?
John Barelli spews:
Ah, Jane’s dog. Speaking of that which you do not know.
I assure you, there are lots of Democrats in the military, unless they all got out in the last nine years.
NCC(AW) John Barelli, USN, Ret (1999)
The Blatantly Obvious spews:
Wholly Crap! Buddypud met up, again, with GBS, and then went to Drinking Liberally?
And he supports Obama for Pres?
And he was a democrat before the tragic event that soiled his thinking in 1996?
I smell a soul coming back to the the light.
If he would just give up the last vestiges of wingnuttery, he would become a decent human being. And cease being a racist.
You can do it, Puddybud!
John Barelli spews:
Oh, doggie? Here’s a bone for you to chew on.
http://www.militarycity.com/polls/2006_main.php
From the last time polling was allowed (2006):
proud leftist spews:
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Puddy showed up for Drinking Liberally? If so, I’ve gotta give him credit. Way to go, man, stepping into the den.
Hannah spews:
@62 – re-read thru threads, I always point out how GWB and admin have screwed up beyond! I don’t know much about senate and congress so I have no room to criticize anyone, either rep or dem, without knowing much about them. I have criticized Hillary in the past and continually praise Obama. I also have never praised McCain…hmmmm go figure!
Roger Rabbit spews:
Click here for photo of typical redneck person:
http://one-salient-oversight.b.....edcom.html
My Left Foot spews:
48
Lemme see, typical liberal elitist? OK, I graduated high school, a four year university, a business school and I joined the military. I served in the United States Army. 20+ years. As a Ranger. As an officer. My son and father both Rangers, both Sergeants. Both combat decorated. Both injured. Again, both Democrat, both patriotic. Both men are my heroes.
Please, do not give me anymore of your bullshit about elitist liberal attitude. Your years of service indicate you might have served in combat, yet you did not mention that you were in any theater of operations. I am guessing you stayed stateside. So until you know what combat is about, until you understand that serving in the military does not necessarily qualify you to be a leader you will be lost amongst the trees looking for a forest.
Leaders motivate. Leaders inspire. Barack Obama has what it takes to be a great leader. McCain is an old, angry man who is a veteran. He is tough, he is patriotic. He is not a leader and he lacks the temperament to be president.
Hannah spews:
@74 – “Leaders motivate. Leaders inspire. Barack Obama has what it takes to be a great leader.” EXCELLENT way to put it!
My Left Foot spews:
53
FOX Noise, credible?
HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR
Roger Rabbit spews:
@72 “I don’t know much about senate and congress”
What rock have you been sleeping under? Some two dozen GOP congressmen have gone to jail. Read a newspaper once in a while.
Puddybud spews:
I actually enjoyed the repartee.
Darryl, I ejoyed meeting you too along with many others whom I spar with now and then. Yes, I am real.
Funny…
ByeByeGOP was missing…I was looking forward to meeting that fool.
John Barelli spews:
Doggie:
Sorry, I mis-spoke. There was another poll allowed. And the news for you should be good. President Bush’s approval rating among the troops has actually gone up!
He’s all the way up to 40%! And 50% “expressed some degree of optimism that the U.S. will succeed in Iraq”!
Puddybud spews:
Just Blatant, not a racist. Ask Seattle Jew.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@74 “Please, do not give me anymore of your bullshit …”
That’s what they’re here for. They don’t have anything else going for them, so that’s what they have to use.
Hannah spews:
@78 – BBG was a no show AGAIN?
Roger Rabbit spews:
Q: How can you tell a Republican is lying?
A: His lips are moving.
My Left Foot spews:
58:
Attend Harvard and you are a racist? Wow. Rob, the wheels are off the cart now aren’t they? I sense a high school education on your part. No hope of earning a four year degree and you hate everyone who has achieved more than you in your sad life.
John Barelli spews:
Puddy, the idea that RES would actually show up and face you is ridiculous, and we both know it. (Still, I was hoping for some pictures!)
My Left Foot spews:
60
Hannah, learn to read. That post you quoted from me was aimed at Jane’s dog, I believe, not you. But if the shoe fits….
The Blatantly Obvious spews:
Please someone tell me Puddybud was part of the Drinking Liberally podcast!!!
Now that would be a lively debate!
Hannah spews:
@86 – Sorry you quoted stuff I said in my prior post to Jane, but she quoted me, my mistake!
The Blatantly Obvious spews:
@ 80 Puddybud, for the record, I know you are not a racist. But giving up the wingnut world view you espouse here on HA would make your support for Obama more credible.
And less a risk for a “cognitive dissonance” risk.
The Blatantly Obvious spews:
erratum “And less a risk for a “cognitive dissonance” risk.”
Should have read “And less a rick of a “cognitive dissonance” implosion.”
The Blatantly Obvious spews:
erratum “rick” should have read… well, you get it.
My Left Foot spews:
61
You are so wrong. You are so very wrong. You could not be more wrong. The military only seems to vote Republican. Most of the front line grunts, the ones who make up most of the military, do not even vote. Level of education has a lot to do with it. Next time they show the military vote, add the total number of votes and compare that to the total number of men and women in our military forces. You will be surprised at the low turnout.
The Blatantly Obvious spews:
Wish I had been there at DL, Puddybud. I really think that while you are certainly crazy, it would have been great to meet you.
Typical White Person (aka rob) spews:
My left foot, I am not here to tout my military service and I don’t usually talk about it. If you must know I was with the 4th CAG Marines in Vietnam in the 4-3-6 in a Mobile CAP. We were at Bo Bang in the Quang Tri Provence.
So tell me what have you been doing in your 20 years of service? I refrain from name calling because that just isn’t my style on the interwebs. If I need to do that I do it in person.
Typical White Person (aka rob) spews:
RE: 84, see my screen name. I lifted it from H. Obama.
Also see the guy who married him and baptized his children.
Jeremiah Wright.
First Borack Hussein Obama.
http://www.powerlineblog.com/a.....020088.php
Second Boracks best friend, Jeremiah Wright
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ38N8OUg3Q
PU spews:
74 your full of shit.were did you serve in combat.john mccain has more time as a pow than you probley had in overseas tours.and once served as the co of the largest navy squardron.and obama.
Typical White Person (aka rob) spews:
Time for bed, Have a good one libtards.
The Blatantly Obvious spews:
@ 96, you had your capkey in the wrong position again. Meth addiction will do that to you.
Try again.
The Blatantly Obvious spews:
@ 97, g’night wingnut, don’t let the DT’s disturb your sleep!
My Left Foot spews:
My service ended about six years ago. Without detail, I served with the 75th Ranger Regiment, 2nd and 3rd Battalions. Theaters of operation in which I served included Grenada (Urgent Fury), Panama (Just Cause) and the middle east (Desert Shield, Desert Storm).
PU spews:
GEE CHECK OUT HOW MUCH MONEY OBAMA GIVE TO HIS RACIST CHURCH IN THE LAST TWO YEARS.DOES 27,500 RING A BELL.WHAT A TURD
My Left Foot spews:
96
Dear PU,
Drinking liberally before you type is generally not a good idea. It allows the idiot inside of you to escape.
THE FAKE LT. spews:
HEY BARELLI IS THAT FUNNY WHILE YOU WERE AT THE WING WE WERE IN THE SAME HANGAR UNLESS YOU WERE AT BLG 381 THE WHITE HOUSE
nameless soldier spews:
92
What are you saying, then? Just so I understand, do you mean to say that the military is overwhelmingly Republican, or just that they have low turn out? Either case, I don’t disagree that there’s truth there. I do think that that might be changing. A lot of the soldiers I’ve served with have been very disenchanted with Iraq and the Bush administration. Also, the fact is that Democrats have been very bad at showing their stuff on defense in the last 20 years. Obviously, the sort of people who volunteer for the military rate defense as high on their priority list. Once Democrats realize that we do, in fact, have good defense policies and come out from under our bushes and fight the republicans on their claim to be stronger on defense, I think you’ll see a lot of military voters turn. Unfortunately the military has a lot of apathetic or low-info voters.
My Left Foot spews:
101
So you jealous because you have not earned $27,500 total in the last three years?
My Left Foot spews:
104
I am saying the Republican members of the military are more likely to vote. The low income, poorly educated grunt is less likely to do so.
PU spews:
DEAR LEFT FOOT ISNT THAT NICE.
PU spews:
BYEBYE IS STILL TRYING TO GET THE STOOL OUT OF HIS ASS
My Left Foot spews:
104
I believe that the military is like the general public, just slightly more Dems than Reps.
PU spews:
MY LEFT FOOT HOW ABOUT YOUR OUT TO SEA AND DO NOT GET MAIL FOR THREE WEEKS AT A TIME THAT MITE HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH LOW VOTER TURN OUT.THATS JUST ONE EXAMLE
nameless soldier spews:
106
I was just curious. I’m always interested in how people perceive military voting trends. Like I said, I don’t disagree. I do think, and hope, that there is a very real chance of change on the horizon though. Also, and this only adds to your point, but the moment when a soldier is most likely to oppose a particular war is when he (or she) is in the middle of fighting it. Unfortunately, that is also the time when it’s the hardest to vote (not that there’s anyone to really blame for that, it’s just the nature of being on the other side of the globe).
PU spews:
92 THATS WHY THERE SUPPOSE TO HAVE VOTEING OFFICERS FOR.
Broadway Joe spews:
Roger @ 10:
Currently, seven ‘foreign’ brands build cars in the US. In addition to Honda and Toyota, Nissan, Hyundai, Kia, Mercedes-Benz and BMW all have assembly plants in the US, and I’ve recently been hearing rumors that Volkswagen AG may build an assembly plant for some of its brands (they own Audi and Porsche, as well as the Europe-only brands SEAT and Skoda).
Oddly enough, more and more ‘American’ cars are being built overseas (GM imports the latest Pontiac GTO and the upcoming El Camino from its Australian subsidiary Holden, and imports SUV from China). And GM is also responsible for arguably the most global cars ever, the Saab 9-2x (a repackaged Subaru Impreza WRX, hence the nickname ‘Saabaru’) and 9-7 SUV (a similarly repackaged Chevy TrailBlazer that I call a ‘Saaburban’).
In the end, what’s more American? A Honda made in America, or a Chevrolet made in Australia? Is it better that American workers get paid, or CEO’s and stockholders?
PU spews:
HEY LEFT TURD MY ONE CHECK IS FOR MORE THAN THAT.HOW MUCH DOES A 2ND LT WITH 20 YEARS GET.
nameless soldier spews:
112
Ha, voting officers, that’s kind of funny. It’s true that every unit has a voting officer, but it’s just an additional duty assigned to some Lieutenant, who probably has three of four other additional duties, and that’s not counting his actual job. It’s not like voting officers have time to talk to each and every soldier and discuss the issues, especially when you start looking at state and local elections.
My Left Foot spews:
114
PU,
No idea without using “the Google” what a 2nd Lt makes. Don’t care either. What is your point?
My Left Foot spews:
PU.
It is apparent you have an affection for mind altering substances of some sort. The rambling, incoherent babble that you spout is evidence. I am sure your “one check” is far less than you imagine it to be. Now, go to bed and sleep it off. You can start over in the morning.
The Blatantly Obvious spews:
MLF, you are actually trying to converse with PU?
I salute you my friend!
My Left Foot spews:
118
First time that I have run into him. He is keeping me entertained while I watch the news and play with Elvis Pupsley, who seems to think that 11:30PM is an appropriate time to play ball.
YLB spews:
I smell a soul coming back to the the light.
Stupes wants to bathe in reflected liberal glory.
Pffft! There’s a smelly legacy here in these comment threads that will not be forgotten.
The Blatantly Obvious spews:
YLB, I understand your skepticism.
But one can always have hope.
I-Burn spews:
@100 3rd Batt., eh? Did you run across Col. Ohl?
Roger Rabbit spews:
92, 104 – The truth is, no one knows who the military votes for. If anyone claims otherwise, ask them (a) whether military personnel get to vote by secret ballot like everyone else (the correct answer is “yes”) and (b) what polling data they have (the correct answer is “none” because federal law prohibits polling organizations from surveying active duty military personnel). Anything anyone says about how the military votes is guessing.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@112 Congratulations! You succeeded in misspelling 3 words of a 9-word sentence, or 33% of the total words! Moreover, you evidently have no understanding of what the function of a Voting Assistance Officer is. They’re not there to make soldiers vote, and cannot order soldiers to vote; their job is to provide ASSISTANCE to soldiers who REQUEST it — comprende? No, you don’t; you comprehend nothing.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@114 I take it you’re not paid to teach English.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Isn’t it funny that the xenophobes who insist others use English are themselves unable to speak, write, or spell their own language?
Roger Rabbit spews:
@118 See #126.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@110 Whose fault is the military mail system? To hear you Republicans screech about it, if a sailor doesn’t get his mail for 3 weeks because his ship is in Antarctica, it’s Dean Logan’s fault.
Richard Pope spews:
Hannah @ 55
True, but their cousin relationships are fairly distant — sixth cousin (John McCain & Laura Bush) means you have to go back over 200 years before you find a common ancestor. Barack Obama and Dick Cheney is something like ninth cousins.
And you will never guess which HA regular happens to be Britney Spears’ third cousin …
My Left Foot spews:
Col William Ohl, I know who he is, I did not serve with him. He had some legal problems with the Army concerning discrimination as I recall. Not sure what it was about.
I-Burn spews:
@130 I don’t know all of the details myself. Just that it was enough to derail the career of the finest commander I ever served under – albeit briefly.
Puddybud spews:
Clueless Idiot: Last night at Drinking Liberally I promised SeattleJew I would elevate my attacks IQ and would engage in a real conversational debate when possible. A real man confronts others head on. You are not that at all.
We had a long discussion. During this discussion you Clueless Idiot and a few others came up as silly inane posters. I was included because I sank to your level. No more. I will be skipping many of your silly posts from now. Keep up the drivel. I will post BULLSHITTIUM when yours and others commentary ranks that identification.
Ta da Clueless Idiot. I hope momma’s apron feels good.
Puddybud spews:
Hannah, We need to meet at a future DL. I will attend another soon. I’ll give Clueless Idiot and ByeByeGOP another change to redeem their manhood.
I got to meet the men from the Philly ‘burbs last night. I guess Goldy and I will disagree on Bala Cynwyd being “Philly”.
Too bad the oxygen starved one was a no-show too.
Puddybud spews:
I guess Professor Darryl Richard Pope on Britney Spears.
Puddybud spews:
Pelletizer: It’s a documented fact in 2000 Al Gore tried to suppress the FLA military vote. David Boies, his lead lawyer, submitted lawsuits for Escambia, Seminole and Martin Counties. I posted these lawsuits many times for you to read.
Gore and his villians felt the military vote would break 70-30 against him, so he tried to disenfranchise those good people serving overseas. When the lawsuit was thrown out and the military votes were counted it broke 58-42 against him. He had some big time egg on his face.
YLB spews:
I hope momma’s apron feels good.
Well, Stupes, this new tone from you is indeed “elevated”.
You will not escape what you’ve sown here.
YLB spews:
Take yesterday’s comment from Stupes about the “kink of lefties”.
Interesting the kink of right wing hypocrites:
http://www.armchairsubversive.org
“Elevate” that.
GBS spews:
Puddybud, props to you. Wow, you must’ve eaten your Wheaties yesterday for breakfast. Lunch with a lib and an apperance at DL.
ByeByeGOP, gotta say you were a now show at both events and you made a HUGE mention that you’d be at DL after you were a no show at lunch.
Puddybud answered the bell to defend his wife’s honor, you embarrassed yourself.
From this day forward SHUT YOUR BIG FUCKING MOUTH WHEN IT COMES TO PUDDY’S WIFE AND BACK THE FUCK OFF.
Puddybud spews:
GBS: Been busy today.
Thanks for the directed statement.
correctnotright spews:
@132: First – I commend Puddy for taking the high road and not leveling personal attacks anymore. Also – I agree with GBS that personal attacks on Puddy’s wife and honor are out of bounds. We are here to discuss issues and we may have disagreements – and even get a little heated – but that should be it. I disagree on most issues with Puddy (and even get upset with him some) but I am also in agreement on a few things and he is a person too – and not to be insulted just because I disagree with him.
Second – to say Gore has egg on his face for any vote recount in florida…is ludicrous. Gore would have won Florida with a total state recount – the supreme court took it away from him. I am against any voter suppression – but if I remember there were irregularities with some of the military votes – they were cast after the election, I think.
YLB spews:
I commend Puddy for taking the high road and not leveling personal attacks anymore.
He’s not even close to being there.