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by Goldy — Saturday, 9/30/06, 10:18 am

In his new book, “State of Denial,” Bob Woodward describes a White House in disarray, and a deteriorating war in Iraq that is going much worse than the Bush Administration portrays it. But there was also this tidbit I found interesting:

The book also reported that then-CIA Director George Tenet and his counterterrorism chief, Cofer Black, grew so concerned about a possible al-Qaida attack in summer 2001 that they abruptly decided to drive straight to the White House to get high-level attention.

Tenet called Rice, then the national-security adviser, from his car to ask to see her in hopes that the surprise appearance would make an impression.

But the meeting on July 10, 2001, left Tenet and Black frustrated and feeling brushed off, Woodward reported. Rice, they believed, did not feel the same sense of urgency about the threat and was content to wait for a policy review.

Never before as an administration been so wrong on so many things with such devastating consequences. This is what comes from governing on belief rather than knowledge.

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  1. Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 10:30 am

    Pyongyang–Rodong Sinmun in an article today says Kim Jong Il is a gifted thinker and theoretician who has glorified the revolutionary idea of President Kim Il Sung as the eternal guiding idea of the era of independence with his outstanding ideological and theoretical activities. Today, the revolutionary idea of the President is highly praised by progressive humankind… [….OK, “The Socialist”……..Headless Lucy……GBS………Who wrote this??????]

  2. For the Clueless spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 10:30 am

    Wingnuts,

    Shrubya lies to you:

    In May, President Bush spoke in Chicago and gave a characteristically upbeat forecast: “Years from now, people will look back on the formation of a unity government in Iraq as a decisive moment in the story of liberty, a moment when freedom gained a firm foothold in the Middle East and the forces of terror began their long retreat.”

    Two days later, the intelligence division of the Joint Chiefs of Staff circulated a secret intelligence assessment to the White House that contradicted the president’s forecast.

    Instead of a “long retreat,” the report predicted a more violent 2007: “Insurgents and terrorists retain the resources and capabilities to sustain and even increase current level of violence through the next year.”

    OOOPS!

    But that’s ok. You wingnuts will lap up any lie for the team.

  3. Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 10:38 am

    CHICAGO (AP) — A federal judge has dismissed a lawsuit filed on behalf of an immigration activist who took refuge in a Chicago church after the government ordered her to deportation to Mexico. Elvira Arellano, 31, had hoped the judge would rule that deporting her would violate the constitutional rights of her 7-year-old son, Saul, an American citizen. [………………………Illegal Mexican alien plus anchor baby plus Jewish lawyer equals: Democrat Hillary Village third world “Baja Norte”. Atlas has Shrugged.]

  4. Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 10:39 am

    For the Clueless, One Trident….Iran. We win. The Terror war is over.

  5. My Left Foot spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 11:00 am

    We have long known that Bush’s stubborness has led to many poor decisions. What is new is that his stubborness has filtered down through his minions. They BELIEVE that they are right, they BELIEVE that God is on their side. Funny thing about that, the terrorists BELIEVE the very same thing.

    Just one question for you on the right wing, how is this working for you so far?

    Keep drinking the Kool-Aid, soon you will be pissing fruit punch.

  6. JDB spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 11:25 am

    JCH:

    You are not a congressman from Florida, are you? I’m just saying.

  7. JDB spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 11:27 am

    The President’s job approval among American adults fell a point today to 39% making it the first drop below 40% since early August. Fifty-eight percent (58%) disapprove of the way the President is performing his job.

    President Bush receives approval among 44% of Caucasians and 29% of Americans of other ethnicities. His lowest approval rating, however, is among African Americans at a mere 9%.

    On a state-by-state basis, in 21 of 27 states surveyed by Rasmussen Reports recently the percentage of those who disapprove of the President’s job performance outweighs the percentage of those who approve. Bush fares exceptionally poorly in Oregon, Connecticut, Maryland, New Jersey, Rhode Island and Washington

    Yep, so smart of the Bush to nationalize the election around him. I bet Reichert is spinning in his grave.

  8. RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 11:49 am

    Well the only thing worse than a Christian Jew Hater is a liberal Jew hater. Take this for example:

    Haq’s friend said he couldn’t believe the timid, “geeky” man he knew from the tutoring center was capable of such violence.
    “Are you sure we’re talking about the same person?” he said Sunday………….

    He said Haq was not a devout Muslim and often complained that the Tri-Cities were too politically conservative.
    “I’m beginning to think I was his only friend in the Tri-Cities.

    I don’t recall him hanging out with anybody else.”
    Now for the other side we turn to Darryl’s story on HA July 30, 2006:

    Psssssssssstttttttt…….

    Ah it looks like the story was all a bunch of hot air. Well there you have it. Enjoy all you Nazi Libs.

  9. JDB spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 11:53 am

    Maf54: You in your boxers, too?
    JCH: Nope, just got home. I had a college interview that went late.
    Maf54: Well, strip down and get relaxed.

    Another message:

    Maf54: What ya wearing?
    JCH: tshirt and shorts
    Maf54: Love to slip them off of you.

    And this one:

    Maf54: Do I make you a little horny?
    JCH: A little.
    Maf54: Cool.

  10. JDB spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 11:55 am

    Doofus:

    You keep forgetting to finish your story. Haq was a peaceful liberal until he came under the influence of a far right Christian Church where he was baptized. So, by your own reasoning, it was his far right brainwashing that made him hate Jews.

    Doofus, why do you hate Christians so?

  11. For the Clueless spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 12:53 pm

    the only thing worse than a Christian Jew Hater

    Aaaaah. Lookee here. DOOFUS is excusing the right-wing Christian Jew haters.. Figures. They’re his peeps!

    Why do you hate Jewish people so much DOOFUS?

    Hey DOOFUS! Would Jesus vote for Foley? for Hastert? for Boehner?

    Poor Doofus. Just can’t stop losing!

  12. Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 1:06 pm

    Kofi, Spike and Blade will be among the pupils arriving at primary schools in four years time, all with Democrat parents. Also popular in Democrat minority communities are “MoFo”, “GuvCheck” and “Marlboro”.

    Ahhh for the good old days when chillrens were named LaShonda, Aquavelva, Chlymidia, LaChammonique, Rawanda, and Shaniqua….Yes, These names would take a young Democrat far!!!!

  13. Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 1:09 pm

    JCH:

    You are not a congressman from Florida, are you? I’m just saying.

    Commentby JDB [No…Are you? I’m just “axing”? [A little Ebonics there so our black Democrats can follow along.]

  14. Jim King spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 1:10 pm

    Let’s see- this is the same Bob Woodward who claimed to have snuck into William Casey’s hospital roo to have a final deathbed interview?

    C’mon, Goldstein- Woodward has as much credibility as Kitty Kelly…

  15. Mark1 spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 1:14 pm

    ‘a deteriorating war in Irag that is going much worse than the Bush administration portrays it’…..I ask again: Why, why, why then does Maria Cantvotewell continually support and vote for this war and it’s funding time and time again? Simple question which probably most of you leftist morons have no real answer for.

  16. John Barelli spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 1:57 pm

    “‘a deteriorating war in Irag that is going much worse than the Bush administration portrays it’…..I ask again: Why, why, why then does Maria Cantvotewell continually support and vote for this war and it’s funding time and time again? Simple question which probably most of you leftist morons have no real answer for.

    Commentby Mark1— 9/30/06@ 1:14 pm

    At least you choose to paraphrase the question that was asked and answered on other threads. I’m at the office right now, and my time is somewhat limited, so I apologize that I have not taken the time to re-phrase my earlier answer.

    As many of us here have stated, many times, her votes on that are not something to be proud of. Lots of people originally believed the lies that we were told and voted for the war, but have since then learned the truth and changed their positions. She has not, nor has she (in my not-so-humble opinion) given a good reason for her continued support.

    ** Side note ** Even I can see some good reasons for us to stay in Iraq, although not with our current leadership. She may believe that once the current leaders are out, we may be able to do some good, and that simply pulling out would be a betrayal of the Iraqis that have risked their lives to help us, trusting that we would help them rebuild their country. Still, if this is her position, she should say so.

    Unfortunately, our current government seems to be determined to continue the policies that have gotten us into this mess. Given a choice between continuing to alienate the entire world (while strengthening and enlarging the terrorist groups determined to kill us) and simply getting out and refusing to do any more damage (and killing a bunch more American and British troops), I’ll go with getting out.

    Bad choices all around, but those are the choices we seem to have today. I don’t like Ms. Cantwell’s votes on Iraq, but I can understand them, and considering that the alternative is a fervent Bush supporter that has come out publicly in favor of this latest outrage upon our Constitution, I’ll stick with Ms. Cantwell.

    How, exactly, is that hypocritical?

    Commentby John Barelli— 9/30/06@ 1:35 pm

  17. For the Clueless spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 2:03 pm

    Mark1 – you’re the moron. Dems in Congress don’t vote against war funding because they care about the troops.

    When the Dems (adults) are in charge, we’ll rotate out of Iraq to Afghanistan and finish the job with al-Qaeda and the Taliban.

    You know get bin Laden and al-Zawahiri? Remember them?

  18. Daddy Love spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 3:01 pm

    Mark1

    Not only that, your framing of Maria Cantwell “voting for the war” is oncorrect. The Senate voted on and passed an Authorization of the Use of Force. Their vote was based on the incomplete (I would say “cooked” but some would not, but irrefutably incomplete) intel they were fed, pressure to vote for the AUF because it was drummed up just before the midterms (not that the GOP would politicize the GWoT or anything), and the president’s promises to use force only as a last resort after diplomacy failed and after the inspections were complete, even though that liar knew they were already planning a March attack.

    Had the Senate known the true state of current intelligence at the time and that the president was a lying sack of shit, the Democrats who voted for the AUF would never have done so.

  19. Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 3:13 pm

    “We must understand the Mooooooooslims.” [Daddy Love]

  20. Facts Support My Positions spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 3:19 pm

    It is hilarious how the right wing nuts complain about everything under the sun, except for the lies that roll off Bush’s lips every single day.

    Democrats will do this, Democrats did that.

    Totally ignore the TREASON being committed daily by Bush, and his poodles in congress.

    I can’t wait till the investigations start.

    Bush did say he would use force as a last resort, after tellng the British when the bombing would begin.

    If Maria made a mistake, it was believing her president. That would be her only mistake. What mistake/s have you made wingnuts? Voting for lying traitors, or tools in congress.

    Saying you support any Republican these days labels you as an enemy of decency, democracy, and humanity.

    I know, I made you mad. Go torture your wife, or message a page…

  21. Facts Support My Positions spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 3:22 pm

    What is mind blowing is the overwhelming evidence Bush did absolutely nothing to protect us when he first took office, even with multiple in your face warnings, and people still support him.

    Eight months, and did not even call a meeting to discuss terrorists, when the Clinton folks told them over, and over it should be their #1 concern.

    How can you righties sleep at night.

    It sure wasn’t any of your family killed on 9-11, because if it was, you would be screaming for REPUBLICAN BLOOD, alongside Bin Laden’s.

    Support Republicans = Inhuman

  22. Daddy Love spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 3:40 pm

    JCH, where is your humanity?

  23. skagit spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 3:43 pm

    But that’s ok. You wingnuts will lap up any lie for the team.

    Commentby For the Clueless— 9/30/06@ 10:30 am

    They relish the terror, not the lie. Why do you think Rove has allowed Bush to publish the chosen excerpts? These are bullies following a bully. Ass-doc is one of the biggest bullies. Rufuck is a confused bully – occasionally he starts to think but immediately catches hiimself.

    You guys try to so hard to be reasonable with bullies. They feast on the terror; they sell the terror; they are addicted to the terror. Why else would this Resident Idiot and his Wizard Rove want to cover the land in terror and fear? These people love it.

    The sheep will remain herded, cowered and obedient in the face of terror. And the bullies will remain in charge and their torture will continue.

    Bush is the devil disguised and these people are following a false god . . . an idol. God help them when this devil is revealed.

    Until then, your words and your reasoning will go unheard for bullies don’t want to stop. . .

  24. The Socialist spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 4:10 pm

    14 POINTS OF FASCISM

    1. Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism

    From the prominent displays of flags and bunting to the ubiquitous lapel pins, the fervor to show patriotic nationalism, both on the part of the regime itself and of citizens caught up in its frenzy, was always obvious. Catchy slogans, pride in the military, and demands for unity were common themes in expressing this nationalism. It was usually coupled with a suspicion of things foreign that often bordered on xenophobia.

    2. Disdain for the importance of human rights

    The regimes themselves viewed human rights as of little value and a hindrance to realizing the objectives of the ruling elite. Through clever use of propaganda, the population was brought to accept these human rights abuses by marginalizing, even demonizing, those being targeted. When abuse was egregious, the tactic was to use secrecy, denial, and disinformation.

    3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause

    The most significant common thread among these regimes was the use of scapegoating as a means to divert the people’s attention from other problems, to shift blame for failures, and to channel frustration in controlled directions. The methods of choice—relentless propaganda and disinformation—were usually effective. Often the regimes would incite “spontaneous” acts against the target scapegoats, usually communists, socialists, liberals, Jews, ethnic and racial minorities, traditional national enemies, members of other religions, secularists, homosexuals, and “terrorists.” Active opponents of these regimes were inevitably labeled as terrorists and dealt with accordingly.

    4. The supremacy of the military/avid militarism

    Ruling elites always identified closely with the military and the industrial infrastructure that supported it. A disproportionate share of national resources was allocated to the military, even when domestic needs were acute. The military was seen as an expression of nationalism, and was used whenever possible to assert national goals, intimidate other nations, and increase the power and prestige of the ruling elite.

    5. Rampant sexism

    Beyond the simple fact that the political elite and the national culture were male-dominated, these regimes inevitably viewed women as second-class citizens. They were adamantly anti-abortion and also homophobic. These attitudes were usually codified in Draconian laws that enjoyed strong support by the orthodox religion of the country, thus lending the regime cover for its abuses.

    6. A controlled mass media

    Under some of the regimes, the mass media were under strict direct control and could be relied upon never to stray from the party line. Other regimes exercised more subtle power to ensure media orthodoxy. Methods included the control of licensing and access to resources, economic pressure, appeals to patriotism, and implied threats. The leaders of the mass media were often politically compatible with the power elite. The result was usually success in keeping the general public unaware of the regimes’ excesses.

    7. Obsession with national security

    Inevitably, a national security apparatus was under direct control of the ruling elite. It was usually an instrument of oppression, operating in secret and beyond any constraints. Its actions were justified under the rubric of protecting “national security,” and questioning its activities was portrayed as unpatriotic or even treasonous.

    8. Religion and ruling elite tied together

    Unlike communist regimes, the fascist and protofascist regimes were never proclaimed as godless by their opponents. In fact, most of the regimes attached themselves to the predominant religion of the country and chose to portray themselves as militant defenders of that religion. The fact that the ruling elite’s behavior was incompatible with the precepts of the religion was generally swept under the rug. Propaganda kept up the illusion that the ruling elites were defenders of the faith and opponents of the “godless.” A perception was manufactured that opposing the power elite was tantamount to an attack on religion.

    9. Power of corporations protected

    Although the personal life of ordinary citizens was under strict control, the ability of large corporations to operate in relative freedom was not compromised. The ruling elite saw the corporate structure as a way to not only ensure military production (in developed states), but also as an additional means of social control. Members of the economic elite were often pampered by the political elite to ensure a continued mutuality of interests, especially in the repression of “have-not” citizens.

    10. Power of labor suppressed or eliminated

    Since organized labor was seen as the one power center that could challenge the political hegemony of the ruling elite and its corporate allies, it was inevitably crushed or made powerless. The poor formed an underclass, viewed with suspicion or outright contempt. Under some regimes, being poor was considered akin to a vice.

    11. Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts

    Intellectuals and the inherent freedom of ideas and expression associated with them were anathema to these regimes. Intellectual and academic freedom were considered subversive to national security and the patriotic ideal. Universities were tightly controlled; politically unreliable faculty harassed or eliminated. Unorthodox ideas or expressions of dissent were strongly attacked, silenced, or crushed. To these regimes, art and literature should serve the national interest or they had no right to exist.

    12. Obsession with crime and punishment

    Most of these regimes maintained Draconian systems of criminal justice with huge prison populations. The police were often glorified and had almost unchecked power, leading to rampant abuse. “Normal” and political crime were often merged into trumped-up criminal charges and sometimes used against political opponents of the regime. Fear, and hatred, of criminals or “traitors” was often promoted among the population as an excuse for more police power.

    13. Rampant cronyism and corruption

    Those in business circles and close to the power elite often used their position to enrich themselves. This corruption worked both ways; the power elite would receive financial gifts and property from the economic elite, who in turn would gain the benefit of government favoritism. Members of the power elite were in a position to obtain vast wealth from other sources as well: for example, by stealing national resources. With the national security apparatus under control and the media muzzled, this corruption was largely unconstrained and not well understood by the general population.

    14. Fraudulent elections

    Elections in the form of plebiscites or public opinion polls were usually bogus. When actual elections with candidates were held, they would usually be perverted by the power elite to get the desired result. Common methods included maintaining control of the election machinery, intimidating and disenfranchising opposition voters, destroying or disallowing legal votes, and, as a last resort, turning to a judiciary beholden to the power elite.

    NOTE: The above 14 Points was written in 2004 by Dr. Laurence Britt, a political scientist. Dr. Britt studied the fascist regimes of: Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia), and Pinochet (Chile).

    Does any of this sound familiar? As America sinks deeper and deeper into corporate greed will this country continue to be a democracy by the people and for the people or will it be ruled by the few? Will the trinity of money, power and greed over come one of the greatest countries in the world? Only we, the people, can keep it free. SPEAK OUT AND LET YOUR THOUGHTS BE KNOWN…ONLY BY SILENCE WILL WE BE DEFEATED!

    “What no one seemed to notice. . . was the ever widening gap. . .between the government and the people. . . And it became always wider. . . the whole process of its coming into being, was above all diverting, it provided an excuse not to think for people who did not want to think anyway . . . (it) gave us some dreadful, fundamental things to think about . . .and kept us so busy with continuous changes and ‘crises’ and so fascinated . . . by the machinations of the ‘national enemies,’ without and within, that we had no time to think about these dreadful things that were growing, little by little, all around us. . .

    Each step was so small, so inconsequential, so well explained or, on occasion, ‘regretted,’ that unless one understood what the whole thing was in principle, what all these ‘little measures’. . . must some day lead to, one no more saw it developing from day to day than a farmer in his field sees the corn growing. . . .Each act. . . is worse than the last, but only a little worse. You wait for the next and the next. You wait for one great shocking occasion, thinking that others, when such a shock comes, will join you in resisting somehow.

    You don’t want to act, or even talk, alone. . . you don’t want to ‘go out of your way to make trouble.’ . . .But the one great shocking occasion, when tens or hundreds or thousands will join with you, never comes. That’s the difficulty. The forms are all there, all untouched, all reassuring, the houses, the shops, the jobs, the mealtimes, the visits, the concerts, the cinema, the holidays. But the spirit, which you never noticed because you made the lifelong mistake of identifying it with the forms, is changed. Now you live in a world of hate and fear, and the people who hate and fear do not even know it themselves, when everyone is transformed, no one is transformed. . . .You have accepted things you would not have accepted five years ago, a year ago, things your father. . . could never have imagined.” :

    From Milton Mayer, They Thought They Were Free, The Germans, 1938-45 (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1955)

    back to Contents

  25. skagit spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 4:37 pm

    Awesome video, but when you watch, be sure to look for Mark, AssDoc, Rufuck, Proud2bStupid, Jim King, even Smeg . . . if you look, you’ll see their faces in the crowd. They are really there! You’ll love it! (This is redstate blog if you’re curious.)

    Commentby skagit— 9/30/06@ 4:35 pm

  26. skagit spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 4:38 pm

    Socialist – those points have been posted so many times and they really take up a lot of space. Why not bullet the really important words and make the point in a way that the fools on this blog will really read. Long posts just get skipped over.

  27. RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 4:51 pm

    You keep forgetting to finish your story. Haq was a peaceful liberal until he came under the influence of a far right Christian Church where he was baptized. So, by your own reasoning, it was his far right brainwashing that made him hate Jews.

    Doofus, why do you hate Christians so?

    Commentby JDB— 9/30/06@ 11:55 am

    the only thing worse than a Christian Jew Hater

    Aaaaah. Lookee here. DOOFUS is excusing the right-wing Christian Jew haters.. Figures. They’re his peeps!

    Why do you hate Jewish people so much DOOFUS?

    Hey DOOFUS! Would Jesus vote for Foley? for Hastert? for Boehner?

    Poor Doofus. Just can’t stop losing!

    Commentby For the Clueless— 9/30/06@ 12:53 pm

    What we need to do is keep an eye on lifelong liberals which Haq was. We must lock up anyone who says they hate conservatives. It is a matter of life or death to Jewish people.

  28. RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 4:54 pm

    How can you righties sleep at night.

    It sure wasn’t any of your family killed on 9-11, because if it was, you would be screaming for REPUBLICAN BLOOD, alongside Bin Laden’s.

    Support Republicans = Inhuman

    Commentby Facts Support My Positions— 9/30/06@ 3:22 pm

    We can sleep at night because over 80% of the people doing the fighting are republican. Of course you lefties know that because you go out of your way to make sure the military doesnt vote.

  29. Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 5:25 pm

    Of course you lefties know that because you go out of your way to make sure the military doesnt vote.

    Commentby RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy [……Democrat libs “serve” in the State Department [“civil service” in Washington, D.C.], or in the “Peace Corp”, or as ACL Jew lawyers, not NEVER do they put their lives or their kids lives on the line in the American military.]

  30. Commander Ogg spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 5:26 pm

    RUFUS Fitzgerald, go and play with the other 101st keyboard Commandos

    I am retired military, I vote and no one has stopped me.

    And if you really believe that 80% of the military who are doing the fighting are Republicans, your smoking and it is not tobacco:

    Now running for office: an army of Iraq veterans

    Among the Democratic vet candidates, 10 have served in either Afghanistan or the current Iraq war, or both.
    The Republicans have one Iraq war vet running for Congress, Van Taylor of Texas…
    http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/.....-uspo.html

  31. Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 5:30 pm

    Two bearded young men laugh and joke for the camera. They appear relaxed, well groomed, intelligent….These images are part of a videotape, nearly an hour long, that was filmed at Osama Bin Laden’s lair in Afghanistan 6½ years ago. They are revealed today for the first time, and they are a missing chapter in the searing story of the attacks on America on September 11, 2001. [……….The terrorists are OK as long as they vote Democrat, right Daddy Love?]

  32. Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 5:31 pm

    Commander Ogg, Al Gore tried to kick out military votes in FL [NOV 2000] because they were Democrat votes??? Hello!!! Anyone home????

  33. sillyguy spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 5:40 pm

    28 Skagit is delusional and the video was not awesome.

  34. Daddy Love spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 5:43 pm

    24 The Socialist

    Don’t keep posting huge tracts. Really. Please. You’ve been here a while; you know that it’s mostly regular posters (unfortunately in some ways). Paste an excerpt, then link to the rest. We’ve all seen it in already other threads. It’s a big pain to keep scrolling past huge stretches of the same highway again and again.

  35. Daddy Love spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 5:44 pm

    JCH

    Al Gore’s team in 2000 tried to keep military votes that were received past the legal deadlines from being counted, to the best of my recollection.

  36. JDB spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 5:51 pm

    JCH: good so your getting horny
    Teen: lol . . . a bit
    JCH: did you spank it this weekend yourself
    Teen: no
    Teen: been too tired and too busy
    JCH: wow…
    JCH: I am never to busy haha
    Teen: haha
    JCH: or tired . . . helps me sleep
    Teen: that’s true
    Teen: haven’t been having a problem with sleep though . . I just walk in the door and collapse
    JCH: i am sure
    Teen: I don’t do it very often normally though
    JCH: why not
    JCH: at your age seems like it would be daily
    Teen: not me
    Teen: im not a horn dog
    Teen: maybe 2 or 3 times a week
    JCH: that a good number
    JCH: in the shower

  37. JDB spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 5:58 pm

    JCH:

    People from Indiana say “axe.” If you are not too busy out blowing sailors on a weeknight, watch Letterman.

    At least get your bigotry right you idiot.

    What a maroon.

  38. Commander Ogg spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 6:00 pm

    Doctor JCH @32 Yeah, go and change the subject. What you do not know, and do not care, is that the 2400 ballots that the Democrats wanted to reject violated Florida/Federal law because they were absentee ballots that did not arrive until after the election. The 11th circuit court allowed the vote to be counted.
    http://archives.cnn.com/2000/L.....index.html
    A three-judge panel of the 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said the ruling by U.S. District Judge Maurice Paul in Gainesville, Florida, was consistent with recent comments by Florida’s highest court about the workings of the absentee ballot law.

    Course it did not much what the Florida Supremes ruled, because an unsigned opinion by 5 Republican operatives released in the middle of the night selected GWB as the Pres:

    The decision was widely criticized for the following sentence in the majority opinion:
    Our consideration is limited to the present circumstances, for the problem of equal protection in election processes generally presents many complexities.
    The court’s defenders considered this a reasonable precaution against the possibility that the decision might be read overbroadly, arguing that in the short time available it would not be appropriate to attempt to craft language spelling out in greater detail how to apply the holding to other cases. Critics, however, interpreted the sentence as stating that the case did not set precedent in any way and could not be used to justify any future court decision, and some suggested that this was evidence the majority realized its holding was untenable. It was seen by many as a departure from the stare decisis principle.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_v._Gore#Decision

  39. For the Clueless spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 6:01 pm

    We must lock up anyone who says they hate conservatives.

    I don’t know anyone who hates conservatives but I do know plenty of people who loathe facists and worshippers of authoritarianism.

  40. Commander Ogg spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 6:01 pm

    Suppers waiting. Ogg out.

  41. For the Clueless spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 6:04 pm

    What we need to do is keep an eye on lifelong liberals

    99.99% of lifelong liberals never kill anyone. The same is probably true of conservatives – more or less.

  42. For the Clueless spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 6:04 pm

    39 – correction: fascists.

  43. skagit spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 6:05 pm

    28 Skagit is delusional and the video was not awesome.

    Commentby sillyguy— 9/30/06@ 5:40 pm

    Got you to watch it, now didn’t it? Did you see yourself in the crowd?

  44. Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 6:06 pm

    99.99% of lifelong liberals never kill anyone.
    Commentby For the Clueless [Pol Pot…..Chairman Mao, Fidel Castro, Uncle Joe Stalin, Kamer Rouge, Hillary Clinton [Fort Marcy Park?]

  45. sillyguy spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 6:07 pm

    36 JDB

    Your attempt at humor is sad and lacking. Your time would be better spent in making valid comments about the topics at hand rather that to try to associate someone you don’t know or appreciate with illegal activities.

  46. For the Clueless spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 6:09 pm

    Hey DOOFUS! Would Jesus vote for George “Macaca” Allen? For Bob Ney? for Duke Cunningham?

  47. Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 6:09 pm

    Commander Ogg, Like I said………Al Gore did his damnest to kick out the Florida military votes while attempting to count all the prison felon votes in black Broward County. Typical scum Democrat………….

  48. sillyguy spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 6:09 pm

    43 – Skagit

    You are still delusional and are need of medical help. Please leave me out out your delusions. Thanks!

  49. Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 6:10 pm

    Who votes Democrat? Felons, blacks, welfare hacks, “guvment” employees on the dole, guilty libs, 90% of Jews, and homo Hollywood fags.

  50. JDB spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 6:12 pm

    Saturday, September 30, 2006

    Fox News’ first slump may be a sign of the times

    By DAVID BAUDER

    THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

    Fox News Channel will mark its 10th anniversary next week in an unusual position: knocked back on its heels.

    The network is in the midst of its first-ever ratings slump. Cable news’ most stable lineup is being juggled. And the blow-up over President Clinton’s interview with Chris Wallace suggests that Democrats are attacking Fox because they perceive the same vulnerability in the network as they do in the Bush administration.
    . . .

    But the years of explosive growth have ended at Fox. Viewership over the first eight months of the year was down 5 percent compared to 2005, with a steeper 13 percent decline in prime time, according to Nielsen Media Research. For 12 straight months, Fox’s prime-time audience has been smaller than the year before. Meanwhile, CNN viewership inched up 5 percent this year through August.

    . . .

    Some believe there’s a correlation to the declining popularity of President Bush and concern about the Iraq war. “The rah-rah enthusiasm that was there in 2002, four years later has dissipated,” Sorenson said.

    Some of the bigger stories of the past year, such as Hurricane Katrina and the wars in the Middle East, played better to the newsgathering strengths of CNN, Heyward said.

    Olbermann’s growing popularity — and growing partisanship — along with the response to Clinton’s “Fox News Sunday” interview also indicate that Fox’s foes have less fear about taking the network on.

  51. Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 6:14 pm

    BTW, Al Gore flew in on a private G-4 [Gulfstream], took a V8 limo [10 MPG] to an air conditioned suite big enough to house 3 welfare families, and gave a speech in Sundance, Utah in a ballroom that required enough electricity to power a small town. The theme was “Energy Conservation”. hehe, JCH

  52. JDB spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 6:16 pm

    Sillyguy at 45

    Please see JCH at 49.

  53. JDB spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 6:22 pm

    JCH: really
    JCH: do you really do it face down
    Teen: ya
    JCH: kneeling
    Teen: well I don’t use my hand . . . I use the bed itself
    JCH: where do you unload
    Teen: towel
    JCH: really
    JCH: completely naked?
    Teen: Well ya
    JCH: very nice
    Teen: lol
    JCH: cute butt bouncing in the air
    Teen: haha
    Teen: well ive never watched myslef
    Teen: but ya I guess
    JCH: i am sure not
    JCH: hmmm
    JCH: great visual
    JCH: i may try that
    Teen: it works
    JCH: hmm
    JCH: sound interesting
    JCH: I always use lotion and the hand
    JCH: but who knows

  54. Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 6:39 pm

    Who votes Democrat? Felons, blacks, welfare hacks, “guvment” employees on the dole, guilty libs, 90% of Jews, and homo Hollywood fags. Oh…….add in illegal alien votes, Jews who live in New York but also vote in Palm Beach and Miami, and those who are died and are buried in Cook County, Il. Did I miss any??????? Oh, losers on HA.ORG who have “guvment” jobs any believe everyone else should be paying more taxes so they can have their “guvment” job.

  55. Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 6:40 pm

    JDB, It sounds like your sex life. Alone………..or with barnyard animals.

  56. RightEqualsStupid spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 6:53 pm

    Bad news for the cowards and traitors on the right. The traitor Bush is exposed in this book which will be on the Best Seller List by Wed.

    And to all the traitors who support Bush be careful. As your friends and neighbors find out you support a traitor, you may find yourself in trouble.

  57. JDB spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 7:14 pm

    Teen: i don’t use lotion . . . takes too much time to clean up
    teen: with a towel you can just wipe off . . . and go
    JCH: lol
    JCH: where do you throw the towel
    Teen: but you cant work it too hard . . . or its not good
    Teen: in the laundry
    JCH: just kinda slow rubbing
    Teen: ya…
    Teen: Or youll rub yourself raw
    JCH: well I have aa totally stiff wood now

  58. sillyguy spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 7:23 pm

    52 JDB Please see my original comment at 45. Your sad attempts at humor are lackng in intelligence and originality. You post both here and at SP. Rather than dicussing the topic, you insist on going off-topic with what you consider humor. Your humor is not there. Please reconsider and post on topic on-topic.

  59. Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 7:29 pm

    58, cont……….yeah! JCH

  60. RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 7:31 pm

    Now running for office: an army of Iraq veterans

    Among the Democratic vet candidates, 10 have served in either Afghanistan or the current Iraq war, or both.
    The Republicans have one Iraq war vet running for Congress, Van Taylor of Texas…
    http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/.....-uspo.html

    Commentby Commander Ogg— 9/30/06@ 5:26 pm

    Yep, when the going gets tough the dems always cut and run for office.

  61. Heathen Sinner spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 7:34 pm

    hey, JCH Kennedy – get a life, you low life….you forgot to mention who votes for Republicans – those illegal aliens that Bush is trying to prop up like spring lilies.

  62. RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 7:35 pm

    JCH

    Al Gore’s team in 2000 tried to keep military votes that were received past the legal deadlines from being counted, to the best of my recollection.

    Commentby Daddy Love— 9/30/06@ 5:44 pm

    Yeah, Al Gore wanted to ignore a federal law stating that the votes were legal. Of course what do you expect from a democrat.

  63. JDB spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 7:39 pm

    sillyguy:

    Didn’t know you have been appointed thead police by Goldy. Question, how is one off topic in an open thread?

    Second, please name any time that JCH has posted on topic?

    Babe, I know it is hard being a conservative now days with everything you believe in tanking. But learn to chill. Otherwise we will just have to call you wrong guy.

    But I do understand that John Craig is such a wimpering bitch that you want to defend him…, are you his pimp?

  64. Francine Busby-Democrat Cali spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 7:40 pm

    hey, JCH Kennedy – get a life, you low life….you forgot to mention who votes for Republicans – those illegal aliens that Bush is trying to prop up like spring lilies.

    Commentby Heathen Sinner— 9/30/06@ 7:34 pm

    Yeah you tell em sinner. That is why we are for voter ID cards and….. wait…. What the hell am I saying. I am a democrat and live of the illegal vote. Nevermind.

  65. Heathen Sinner spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 7:47 pm

    Francine – you sure your not a Republican? – you sound like a real hypocrite….wait…did I mean Republican.

  66. JDB spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 7:55 pm

    Heathen at 65:

    Same thing.

  67. JDB spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 7:55 pm

    Teen: but you cn find something softer than a towel o giess
    JCH: but it must feel great spirting on the towel
    Teen: ya
    JCH: wow
    JCH: is your little guy limp . . . or growing
    Teen: eh growing
    JCH: hmm
    JCH: so you got a stiff one now
    Teen: not that fast
    Teen: hey
    Teen: so you have a fetich
    JCH: hey what
    Teen: fetish**
    JCH: like
    JCH: I like steamroom
    JCH whats yours
    Teen: its kind weird
    Teen: lol
    JCH: I am hard as a rock. . so tell me when you reaches rock

  68. JDB spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 8:00 pm

    Doofus at 62:

    Given that GWB has never found a federal law that he hasn’t walked all over, I really don’t think you want to make that point.

  69. RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 8:09 pm

    68

    Why are you dems so concerned about the rule of law all of a sudden. You obviously didnt care in the 90’s. Oh, thats right your not in power.

  70. sillyguy spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 8:12 pm

    63 JDB

    It so happens that your posts are total obnoxious and make this Blog X-Rated to the point I would not even want to show my wife. You are one of the only people making my point. (Left Hand is another but he is Recovering and getting better.). If you would clean up your posts then HA would be very much more believable in the world of blogs!!!

  71. Heathen Sinner spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 8:15 pm

    Relgious Cooks

  72. LauraBushKilledAGuy spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 9:57 pm

    JCH stands for:

    Just Cunt Hair

  73. YO spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 10:35 pm

    JDB YOU STILL USING YOUR COMPUTER AT WORK.YEP LEAVE IT TO THE LEFT TO SCREW THE PEOPLE THEY WORK FOR.JDB BLOGS ON THE PEOPELS DIME.AND YOU GOT THE BALLS TO TALK ABOUT THE OTHER SIDE.

  74. YO spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 10:38 pm

    CLUELESS@17 YOUR DEMOCRATIC PARTY COULD NOT FIND A PHONE BOTH WITH A MAP.

  75. sgmmac spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 10:46 pm

    The following is a very interesting perspective about our “Drive by Media!.” Victor Davis Hanson is a professor at Fresno State.

    Eye of the Beholder by Victor Davis Hanson The American Enterprise Online

    War-torn Iraq has about 26 million residents, a peaceful California perhaps now 35 million. The former is a violent and impoverished landscape, the latter said to be paradise on Earth. But how you envision either place to some degree depends on the eye of the beholder and is predicated on what the daily media appear to make of each.

    As a fifth-generation Californian, I deeply love this state, but still imagine what the reaction would be if the world awoke each morning to be told that once again there were six more murders, 27 rapes, 38, arsons, 180 robberies, and 360 instances of assault in California –
    yesterday, today,tomorrow, and every day. I wonder if the headlines would scream about “Nearly 200 poor Californians butchered again this month!”

    How about a monthly media dose of “600 women raped in February alone!” Or try, “Over 600 violent robberies and assaults in March, with no end in sight!” Those do not even make up all of the state’s yearly 200,000 violent acts that law enforcement knows about.

    Iraq ‘s judicial system seems a mess. On the eve of the war, Saddam let out 100,000 inmates from his vast prison archipelago. He himself still sits in the dock months after his trial began. But imagine an Iraq with a penal system like California’s with 170,000 criminals – an inmate population larger than those of Germany , France , the Netherlands, and Singapore combined.

    Just to house such a shadow population costs our state nearly $7 billion a year – or about the same price of keeping 40,000 Army personnel per year in Iraq . What would be the image of our Golden State if we were reminded each morning, “Another $20 million spent today on housing our criminals”?

    Some of California ‘s most recent prison scandals would be easy to sensationalize: “Guards watch as inmates are raped!” Or “Correction officer accused of having sex with under-aged detainee!” And apropos of Saddam’s sluggish trial, remember that our home state multiple murderer,Tookie Williams, was finally executed in December 2005 – 26 years after he was originally sentenced.

    Much is made of the inability to patrol Iraq ‘s borders with Iran, Jordan , Kuwait , Saudi Arabia , Syria , and Turkey . But California has only a single border with a foreign nation, not six. Yet over 3 million foreigners who sneaked in illegally now live in our state.
    Worse, there are about 15,000 convicted alien felons incarcerated in our penal system, costing about $500 million a year. Imagine the potential tabloid headlines: “Illegal aliens in state comprise population larger than San Francisco!” or “Drugs, criminals, and
    smugglers given free pass into California !”

    Every year, over 4,000 Californians die in car crashes – nearly twice the number of Americans lost so far in three years of combat operations in Iraq . In some sense, then, our badly maintained roads, and often poorly trained and sometimes intoxicated drivers, are even more lethal than Improvised Explosive Devices. Perhaps tomorrow’s headline might scream out at us: “300 Californians to perish this
    month on state highways! Hundreds more will be maimed and crippled!”

    In 2001, California had 32 days of power outages, despite paying nearly the highest rates for electricity in the United States . Before complaining about the smoke in Baghdad rising from private generators, think back to the run on generators in California when they were contemplated as a future part of every household’s line of defense.

    We’re told that Iraq ‘s finances are a mess. Yet until recently, so were California’s. Two years ago, Governor Schwarzenegger inherited a $38 billion annual budget shortfall. That could have made for strong morning newscast teasers: “Another $100 million borrowed today – $3
    billion more in red ink to pile up by month’s end!”

    So is California comparable to Iraq ? Hardly. Yet it could easily be sketched by a reporter intent on doing so as a bankrupt, crime-ridden den with murderous highways, tens of thousands of inmates, with wide-open borders.

  76. Maf54 spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 10:58 pm

    sillyguy: how old are you? if ur under 18 give me a call.

    rufus: ditto

  77. Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 11:03 pm

    Join “Democrats For Voter ID!” Oh, wait…….There is no such organization? Never mind!!!!!!

  78. JDB spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 11:04 pm

    YO:

    Lay off the drugs. I work in the private sector, and it is Saturday! Dolt.

    Damn WAREZ kids are so annoying.

    Sillyguy. You do live up to your name, don’t you. First of all, nothing I posted is x-rated. These are the words of one of the fine conservatives who serve the people in the other Washington. Congressman Mark Foley. I found them at http://abcnews.go.com/images/WNT/02-02-03b.pdf. You did notice that I put JCH’s messages in italics to show that they were a quote?

    JCH is the best example of a conservative we have around here. You are obviously proud of his bigoted, racist, misogynistic, foolish lying ass. (Ask him why he has never been able to post a single link proving that Bill Clinton called Dick Morris a “jew bastard.” What I post is true.) Given that he is obviously a self-loathing old queer, I figured that he must be Mark Foley posting here. So I thought I would post some of his messages here. I would think you would be as proud of those post of a great conservative as you are of JCH, a great conservative.

    It’s not my fault that your point of view seems to give rise to an awful lot of sick bastards. Perhaps you would want to do something about that. Also, I would think that you would want your wife to know what sort of people the GOP have representing you back in Washington. Why would you not want her to know the truth?

    Second, Please point out somewhere else where my language was “bad” other than when I was posting Congressman Foley’s messages? Outside the few outright bigots here (Loser Yellowback and JCH), I try to be snarky at worse.

    So, until you get your bitch John Craig to play nice, you will forgive me if I just laugh my ass off when I hear your little whine. Babe, please, you can’t be as stupid as your posts make you seem. And I find it highly offensive that someone like you doesn’t care to question a blatant racist like John Craig Herman. As a gentleman, I await your apology sir.

  79. Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 11:10 pm

    Race and immigration could determine the 2008 presidential race, Democratic Party chief Howard Dean told a group of Hispanic leaders Saturday. […….”Another 10 million illegal Democrat votes from Mexico, and a few hundred thousand cases of Marlboros and Black Velvet, and Democrats can win in 06!” [Howard Dean]]

  80. Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 11:13 pm

    (Ask him why he has never been able to post a single link proving that Bill Clinton called Dick Morris a “jew bastard.”

    Commentby JDB [………Dumb ass!! It was Hillary who called Dick Morris a “FUCKING JEW BASTARD!” Not Bill, and get the quote right!!!!]

  81. A concerned Democrat spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 11:15 pm

    It is imparative to have background and ID checks for every gun purchased in the US…… what? We are talking about fair elections and not gun control. Nevermind.

  82. Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 11:16 pm

    “So, until you get your bitch John Craig to play nice..”

    Commentby JDB— [……Nope. Sorry, JDB. So bend over and let Democrat black felon hero “Tookie” Williams give your rectum the 9 inches of “Tookie love” you so enjoy!! Even if Democrat black felon hero “Tookie” is dead, He’s still 9 inches of stiff “Democrat love” for you!!!]

  83. Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 11:16 pm

    Join “Democrats For Voter ID!” Oh, wait…….There is no such organization? Never mind!!!!!!

  84. JDB spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 11:20 pm

    Sillyguy:

    Something else I’m sure you wouldn’t want your wife to read:

    House Majority Leader John A. Boehner and Speaker J. Dennis Hastert knew since spring that Mark Foley was screwing around with young boys, and apparently didn’t do a damn thing about it.
    Now that’s moral leadership!

    Meanwhile, the Chicago Trib’s Washington bureau is furiously asking why Foley was allowed to remain the chairman of the House Caucus on Missing and Exploited Children when the GOP leadership knew he was having “inappropriate contact” with teen boys.

    Duh. Because he’s an expert in the field!

    http://www.wonkette.com/politi.....204414.php

    Yep, Boehner and Hasert kept him as chair of the House Caucus on Missing and Exploited Children. Amazing how many sick bastards like JCH conservatism attracts.

  85. Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 11:24 pm

    “IDs for voting is racist because Democrat blacks are too stupid to get IDs for voting, but are smart enough to get IDs for welfare, food stamps, and cashing “guvment” checks”. [Howard Dean]

  86. Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 11:25 pm

    (Ask him why he has never been able to post a single link proving that Bill Clinton called Dick Morris a “jew bastard.”

    Commentby JDB [………Dumb ass!! It was Hillary who called Dick Morris a “FUCKING JEW BASTARD!” Not Bill, and get the quote right!!!!]

  87. Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 11:26 pm

    JDB, Do you know REP Barney Fag, er, Frank, DEMOCRAT. MASS??

  88. Doctor Maf54 Kennedy spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 11:32 pm

    (Ask him why he has never been able to post a single link proving that Bill Clinton called Dick Morris a “jew bastard.”

    Commentby JDB [………Dumb ass!! It was Hillary who called Dick Morris a “FUCKING JEW BASTARD!” Not Bill, and get the quote right!!!! I should know, I made it up!!!!]

  89. Doctor Maf54 Kennedy spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 11:35 pm

    Skagit at 25:

    Now that is my kind of video!!! It is great to see people who agree with me. Thanks for putting that up. Everyone, you should check this out!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....#038;eurl=

  90. Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 11:47 pm

    Doctor Maf54 Kennedy, You need to spend some night “quality” time in 100% Democrat cities such as Detroit, Gary, Philly, and South Central LA. Walk the streets, and enjoy being away from evil Republicans! Get to know the local Democrats!! Enjoy a smoke and drink with the local Democrat “MoFos”!!! hehe, JCH

  91. Doctor Maf54 Kennedy spews:

    Saturday, 9/30/06 at 11:54 pm

    Doctor JCH Kennedy, Are you some kind of Dumbocrap? The only people who spend “quality” time in places like that are the ones that like the old “tookie love.” What kind of fag are you?

  92. JDB spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 12:14 am

    Among those who became aware earlier this year of the fall 2005 communications between Mr. Foley and the 16-year-old page, who worked for Representative Rodney Alexander, Republican of Louisiana, were Representative John A. Boehner, the majority leader, and Representative Thomas M. Reynolds of New York, chairman of the National Republican Congressional Committee. Mr. Reynolds said in a statement Saturday that he had also personally raised the issue with Speaker J. Dennis Hastert.

    “Despite the fact that I had not seen the e-mails in question, and Mr. Alexander told me that the parents didn’t want the matter pursued, I told the speaker of the conversation Mr. Alexander had with me,” Mr. Reynolds said.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10.....ref=slogin

  93. RightEqualsStupid spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 5:28 am

    JCH =

    Just Can’t Helpbeingafuckingmoron

  94. Daddy Love spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 7:29 am

    75 sgmmac

    Although I am a writer by profession, it’s not just my silly preference, it’s the law. When referring to copyrighted material, reprinting it in toto is not allowable under “fair use” provisions of copyright law. To make such a reference, excerpt the material (the <blockquoet> tag is good for this) and then adda link to the legal publishing site.

  95. Heathen Sinner spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 8:03 am

    Leave it to Republicans to bring to the table good political discussuion. Cry and Cry and Cry when the Democrats are in power, then still Cry and Cry when their in power. How can they hold accountable their own party when all they do is cry and blame the liberal Democrats. Thier heros are Rush “I don’t do drugs” Limbaugh and Sean “Cry Baby” Hannity. They hold themselves so righteous and everyone else don’t belong – sounds like Hitler’s philosphy to me. Instead of debating the issues, they have their heads up their ass.

  96. sillyguy spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 8:29 am

    84 JDB

    There is a tremndous difference between the truth and your feeble attempts at x-rated humor.

  97. JDB spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 8:36 am

    Sillyguy, you really are silly.

    Again, what you consider to be my “feeble attempts at x-rated humor,” are verbatim transcripts of Congressman Mark Foley (R)-FL/JCH. Your party leadership knew about this for 10 months and let it keep on going.

    Now that is pornographic.

  98. JDB spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 8:40 am

    Now if you want a feeble attempt at x-rated humor (using that phrase figuratively, which you apparently are doing), have your wife read this, she’ll get a kick out of it:

    Did you hear about the leper who visited the prostitute?

    He left a tip.

  99. Another TJ spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 9:04 am

    Victor Davis Hanson is a professor at Fresno State.

    And a freakin’ idiot.

  100. Another TJ spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 9:04 am

    Let’s fix those tags.

    Victor Davis Hanson is a professor at Fresno State.

    And a freakin’ idiot.

  101. sillyguy spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 9:46 am

    97 JDB

    Item 67 was a feeble attempt at x-rated humor not your quote.

  102. Mike Webb SUCKS spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 10:24 am

    Moonbats: In an election year, Senator, Mary Landrieu, (D-Louisiana), is presently asking the Congress for $250 BILLION to rebuild New Orleans. Interesting number, what does it mean?

    a. Well, if you are one of 484,674 residents of New Orleans every man, woman, child, you each get $516,528.

    b. Or, if you have one of the 188,251 homes in New Orleans, your home gets $1,329,787.

    c. Or, if you are a family of four, your family gets $2,066,012.

    That’s donk mathematics. Doesn’t matter if it’s needed, Just Do It!

  103. Mike Webb SUCKS spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 10:30 am

    From Milton Mayer, They Thought They Were Free, The Germans, 1938-45 (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1955) back to Contents Commentby The Socialist— 9/30/06@ 4:10 pm

    Nice cut and paste job. You must be friends of For Thoroughly Clueless.

  104. Mike Webb SUCKS spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 10:33 am

    Amazing thought from Cmdr Ogg: Among the Democratic vet candidates, 10 have served in either Afghanistan or the current Iraq war, or both. The Republicans have one Iraq war vet running for Congress, Van Taylor of Texas… http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/.....-uspo.html Commentby Commander Ogg— 9/30/06@ 5:26 pm

    10/140,000 is a very LOW number. Counting rotations 10/200,000 is an even LOWER number. You’re doing a fine moonbattic job!

  105. Mike Webb SUCKS spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 10:43 am

    JCH Al Gore’s team in 2000 tried to keep military votes that were received past the legal deadlines from being counted, to the best of my recollection. Commentby Daddy Love— 9/30/06@ 5:44 pm

    Google it to clear your recollection. Your eyes will be opened to what David Boies did for Al Gore! Puddy did a great job detailing this on this full of left wing static station! I realize left wing moonbat idiots like For Thoroughly Clueless don’t read Puddy, but his links and Internet usage provides facts that hurt the librul mind. So does HowCan. She provides facts that hurt the librul mind too from URLs.

    I like KLake when he posts URLs being career military. All Carl can do is swear and call him names in his usually ineffective deflection schemes! Only Carl can attack sgmmac and KLake because carl was a career “officer”. John Barelli served for a time so he gets a pass. I see GBS was busted for attacking a superior officer, but he was a Seal so he gets a pass. The rest of you puke filled moonbats should shut up when attacking sgmmac, KLake, or even JCH on military matters because you didn’t serve. Are you all that STUUUUUUUUPIIIIIIIIIID?

  106. Mike Webb SUCKS spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 10:52 am

    Thanks Cmdr Ogg: I was waiting for the wikipedia attack. http://news.com.com/2061-10796_3-6033082.html.

    Don’t use Wikipedia to make political commentary. Both sides use it to disparage each other.

  107. Mike Webb SUCKS spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 11:00 am

    House Majority Leader John A. Boehner and Speaker J. Dennis Hastert knew since spring that Mark Foley was screwing around with young boys, and apparently didn’t do a damn thing about it.
    Now that’s moral leadership! Meanwhile, the Chicago Trib’s Washington bureau is furiously asking why Foley was allowed to remain the chairman of the House Caucus on Missing and Exploited Children when the GOP leadership knew he was having “inappropriate contact” with teen boys.

    Duh. Because he’s an expert in the field!
    http://www.wonkette.com/politi.....204414.php Yep, Boehner and Hasert kept him as chair of the House Caucus on Missing and Exploited Children. Amazing how many sick bastards like JCH conservatism attracts. Commentby JDB— 9/30/06@ 11:20 pm

    That is a mighty lofty attack. JDB do you have a cogent referential personal thought not tied to some moonbattic URL? Do you THINK for yourself? Didn’t think so.

    Do you have proof he was molesting boys? Did NAMBLA prvide the proof? Has any boy stepped forward saying he was fondled? Or are you trying to provide cover to the NEA for all those donk teachers stealing the virginity of underage boys?

    I’ll ask again: Where is the librul call for jurisprudence? Where is innocent until proven guilty? Where is the librul call for fairness? NOWHERE as I can see. Hypocrites!

  108. Mike Webb SUCKS spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 11:05 am

    Francine – you sure your not a Republican? – you sound like a real hypocrite….wait…did I mean Republican. Commentby Heathen Sinner— 9/30/06@ 7:47 pm

    What a STUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUPIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIID donk.

    It was translated and Busby replied: “Everybody can help, yeah, absolutely, you can all help. You don’t need papers for voting, you don’t need to be a registered voter to help.”

    Bilbray said at worst, Busby was encouraging someone to vote illegally. At best, she was encouraging someone who is illegally in the country to work on her campaign.

    “She’s soliciting illegal aliens to campaign for her and it’s on tape – this isn’t exactly what you call the pinnacle of ethical campaign strategy,” Bilbray said. “I don’t know how she shows her face.”

    http://www.signonsandiego.com/.....busby.html

    I’d use Michelle Malkin, but moonbats made disparaging remarks about her Asian heritage. There is noting left scared to a moonbat anymore!

  109. JDB spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 11:20 am

    sillyguy:

    Post 67 is a verbatim transcript of Congressman Foley/JCH. No joke. Just the truth.

    MWS: Foley, Boehner and Hasert are all innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. I’m glad that you believe that they should all be indicted and tried.

    However, none of that excuses the House Majority Leader and the Speaker from having protected a perv like Foley and leaving him on the caucus in charge of exploited children.

    What’s wrong, are you afraid that if Foley can’t molest children that you will have to stop?

  110. JDB spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 11:24 am

    MWS:

    Since you obviously don’t want to talk about how the House Republican Leadership was protecting one of their pervs, maybe you want to talk abou this:

    On May 26, the Pentagon released an unclassified report to Congress, required by law, that contradicted the Joint Chiefs’ secret assessment. The public report sent to Congress said the “appeal and motivation for continued violent action will begin to wane in early 2007.”

    There was a vast difference between what the White House and the Pentagon knew about the situation in Iraq and what they were saying publicly. But the discrepancy was not surprising. In memos, reports and internal debates, high-level officials of the Bush administration have voiced their concern about the United States’ ability to bring peace and stability to Iraq since early in the occupation.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....t/asection

    Republicans, Bad at Homeland Security, Good for Child Molesters. No wonder you are a Republican MWS.

  111. Heathen Sinner spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 11:31 am

    Hey Mike, how is Bush doing? You think a Republican administration could have done something about spending $7 Billion on compensation to victims of the 9/11 attack. Each death claim averaged over 1.5 million dollars; just to protect the Airline Industry from lawsuits. You think someone could have prevented the airline idustries in this event without spending a dime. This was money well spent. Boo Hoo Hoo, so you lost your daddy; how many other people loose their daddy’s on any given day. Like the money brought back their loved one. $7 billion for 3,000 people. Not that I’m for appropriating $250 Billion to New Orleans, but you have to outline where the money is going; obviously the money isn’t going directly to individuals of NO. Think of all the small business that must be getting their hands on that money. You make a big statment but with very little meaning. Oh by the way, GO FUCK YOURSELF!

  112. Mike Webb SUCKS spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 11:31 am

    JDB The Real Child Molester of HorsesAss: Your side loves to convict before proof is delivered. Do you remember Merry Fitzmas in October 2005 and May 2006? I want to see where he fondled boys. As I stated Friday if he did the act send him to the pokey. Headless will be waiting for him for the hokey pokey.

    FTR WRT Child Molesting: Not my style, never done it and I for sure do not support NAMBLA either. You and your friends here on AssesHorse do! Never saw you decry their acts. Never saw you decry the NEA support of female teachers raping young men! Still waiting for Fot Thoroughly Clueless to say he doesn’t support NAMBLA either. I haven’t seen Goldie say he doesn’t support NAMBLA!

    Where did I write Boehner and Hastert are innocent of any “projected by JDB” crime? Nowhere! Citation please? I wrote Foley is innocent until proven guilty. I realize in the rush to judgment you are blurred by the facts. Facts hurt the librul mind.

  113. Mike Webb SUCKS spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 11:33 am

    Heathen Sinner@111: You sould get your facts straight when you want to attack me. New Orleans and Louisiana graft is part and parcel of DONKS! Go back and try again. I’ll wait until then…

  114. Another TJ spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 11:37 am

    I want to see where he fondled boys. As I stated Friday if he did the act send him to the pokey.

    You should inform yourself about the issues involved before commenting.

  115. Heathen Sinner spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 11:42 am

    Oh ok, your smart one. Stick a dildo up your ass! Just like a Republican, knows how to call people names; just doesn’t know how to speak about all the great things their party is doing. Tell us Mike, all the good thing that Bush is doing. You can’t – YOU BIG FUCKIND DONK!

  116. Heathen Sinner spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 11:56 am

    Hey Big Donk Mike, let me tell you about my neighbors, both Republicans, Husband is divorced but quite the family man. They both work for the Air National Guard, there income is government subsidized. They live +3000 miles from Florida, but have both of their vehicles registered in Florida, probably because mommy lives in Florida, to avoid state taxes in the state in which they truly reside in…..So, it sounds like they should be living in New Orleans and Louisianna with the rest of the Donks. Again, Republicans hold themselves as the most righteous people – you should grow up – your like a 9 year old child. DONK.

  117. rujax206 spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 11:57 am

    Hey Dumbfucks-

    “If the GOP can’t even keep a bunch of 15 year olds safe, how can they keep America safe?”

    A question from a reader at “Talking points Memo”, but I like it , too.

  118. Heathen Sinner spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 12:00 pm

    They can’t, neither can the Democrats – don’t you guys get it, its not the affiliation of a political party that makes you who you are, but your own actions. DONK, DONK.

  119. Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 12:21 pm

    Doctor JCH Kennedy, Are you some kind of Dumbocrap? The only people who spend “quality” time in places like that are the ones that like the old “tookie love.” What kind of fag are you?

    Commentby Doctor Maf54 Kennedy [……………………………………………………………………………Nope….Not a Republican within miles of these black Democrat urban shit holes. Just Democrat welfare hacks, felons, criminals, and human trash. All vote Democrat early and often as long as the KFC, Black Velvet, and Marlboros are given away.]

  120. For the Clueless spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 12:23 pm

    Hey WOS – I see you’re hiding in this old thread.

    That Gorelick Wall bullshit was totally shredded. You like to believe in fairy tales. Figures. You’re a child.

    You ask if I support NAMBLA. I do not support their mission, no. I believe it is immoral. If they are caught breaking the law, they should face the consequences.

    However like the ACLU, I support their RIGHTS as granted by law including the right to defend themselves in a court of law against things they had nothing to do with.

    Just like I support similar rights for YOU!

  121. For the Clueless spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 12:25 pm

    Correction: replace similar with “the same”

  122. Heathen Sinner spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 12:26 pm

    Well spoken Doc! Now we know why America is what it is. Doc, sounds like your upset; maybe a wind storm picked up your mobile home?

  123. For the Clueless spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 12:31 pm

    122 – you hiding in there WOS? Your world’s coming apart and I am damn pleased to see it happen.

    Redeem yourself. Vote Democrat.

    You voted for Brian Sonntag. I know you can do it.

  124. Don Joe spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 12:37 pm

    Clueless, do you really expect MWS to grasp the distinction between supporting different people’s rights and supporting their causes?

  125. For the Clueless spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 12:45 pm

    124 – I’m not holding my breath.

  126. Heathen Sinner spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 12:46 pm

    Clueless – I hate to pop you ballon. I’m a newbie to this room – I’m not WOS. I have no idea who WOS is. No wonder they call you clueless.

  127. Mike Webb SUCKS spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 12:50 pm

    #126: Well Said About Clueless! He doesn’t know who WOS is either. I’m MWS. He’s Clueless!

  128. Mike Webb SUCKS spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 12:51 pm

    Clueless Can you figure out the punchline?

    Pigeon Problems

    The mayor of Houston Texas was very worried about a plague of pigeons in Houston. The mayor could not remove the pigeons from the city. All of Houston was full of pigeon poop. The people of Houston couldn’t walk on the sidewalks or drive on the roads. It was costing a fortune to try to keep the streets and sidewalks clean.

    One day a man came to City Hall and offered the Mayor a proposition. “I can rid your beautiful city of its plague of pigeons without cost to the city. But, you must promise not to ask me any questions. Or, you can pay me five million dollars and ask one question.” The mayor considered the offer briefly and accepted the free proposition.

    The next day the man climbed to the top of City Hall, opened his coat, and released a red pigeon. The red pigeon circled in the air and flew up into the bright blue Texas sky. All the pigeons in Houston saw the red pigeon. They gathered up behind the red pigeon. The Houston pigeons followed the red pigeon as she flew eastward out of the city.

    The next day the red pigeon returned completely alone to the man atop City Hall. The Mayor was very impressed. He thought the man and the red pigeon had performed a wonderful miraculous feat to rid Houston of the plague of pigeons.

    Even though the man with the pigeon had charged nothing, the mayor presented him with a check for 5 million dollars and told the man that, indeed, he did have a question to ask and even though they had agreed to no fee and the man had rid the city of pigeons, he decided to pay the 5 million just to get to ask ONE question.

    The man accepted the money and told the mayor to ask his question.

    The mayor asked: “Do you have any red Mexicans?

  129. skagit spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 12:52 pm

    Skagit at 25:

    Now that is my kind of video!!! It is great to see people who agree with me. Thanks for putting that up. Everyone, you should check this out!

    “awesome video”

    Commentby Doctor Maf54 Kennedy— 9/30/06@ 11:35 pm

    Thanks Ass-Doc-2K! See, I hope everybody views it . . . especially you, Smeg & King.

  130. skagit spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 12:54 pm

    BTW, Smeg, if you knew anything at all, you’d know Victor Hanson is an apologist and militarist for this administration. That’s why he’s stuck at Fresno.

    God help you, Smeg. You’re a grandma who should be more caring for the safety and education of her grandkids.

  131. For the Clueless spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 12:54 pm

    127 – Thanks for answering my question in 123. I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt as to identity, however the thoughts I offered apply equally to you.

    To summarize: if you support lies, incompetence and corruption vote Republican otherwise throw the rascals out.

  132. Mike Webb SUCKS spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 12:55 pm

    Alternative Toe Jam: Results 1 – 10 of about 572 for Mark Foley Fondled Boys.

    Find one where he fondled boys. He emailed them sure.

  133. Mike Webb SUCKS spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 12:58 pm

    For Thoroughly Clueless: I voted for Sonntagg because he is the opposite of you! GGGGGet itttttt?

  134. For the Clueless spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 1:01 pm

    133 – busted. Puddybud…

  135. skagit spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 1:05 pm

    If all the intelligent and informed of us quit posting on this blog, who would be left?

    The AssxNine Kennedies, sillyguy, smeg, king, and few others . . . I’d love to see it! They’d be trying to outdo each other in stupidity . . .

  136. Another TJ spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 1:20 pm

    Find one where he fondled boys. He emailed them sure.

    Again, you should inform yourself about the issues involved before commenting.

  137. Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 1:23 pm

    “The AssxNine Kennedies . .????”

    Commentby skagit [WE RULE!!! We do as we wish, we rape, we kill, we cheat, and you dumb ass libs vote for us every election!!]

  138. Heathen Sinner spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 1:27 pm

    Gas it up baby!

  139. Mike Webb SUCKS spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 1:51 pm

    Good Try For Thoroughly Clueless. I admit I voted for Brian Sonntag. I voted donk for once in my life. Wait a minute. I voted for Bill Clinton in 1992. That’s twice I voted donk.

    Yes Clueless you got me. I am puddybud! NOT. Do I write like him? Do I attack you with the Internet like him? I would have to keep straight all the names I call you and all the names he calls you. Even for a conservative that’s a tough task.

    I am also pbj, YO, yossarian, Kevin Cairns, Cynical, PacMan, righton, Janet S, Howcan too. There is only one person I am not. JCH. I don’t live in Hawaii.

    Back to work now. Keep Searching. I’ll give you a hint Clueless. I showed my friends in an nacestrial search my ancestors came from Europe in the 1700’s. Now if Puddy is a black man, his ancestors came from where…? New Zealand?

    STUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUPIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIID!

  140. Puddybud spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 1:53 pm

    Karma Clueless you claimed I was PacMan. Then you tried Kevin Cairns. Hellovaneffort Karma boy. Keep up the good work. Still searching for your meaning in life.

  141. Puddybud spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 1:55 pm

    I remember PacMan and I had to submit our Internet connections for Karma Boy.

    Let me clue you in Karma Boy. Many conservatives voted for Brian Sonntagg. Good try at politics. We know a good donk when we see him. Have you ever voted Republican? Tell me Karmaboy? It’s okay, momma will let you play in the sand box!

  142. Puddybud spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 1:58 pm

    BTW KArmaboy, is your daughter turning tricks yet? Since you seem to be zeroed in on Mark Foley, one of the first to yell about the Dubai ports deal you dumbASS moonbats forget was suggested by Clinton.

  143. Puddybud spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 2:03 pm

    Goldy: I need to get the address of horsesass, oops I mean headless lucy. I want to take September 5 thru September 16 postings so his workplace can see the horsesass he is. Can you help me?

  144. For the Clueless spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 2:06 pm

    Calm. Calm, Puddybud…

    Yes I have voted for a Republican: Norm Maleng and I’d like to vote for John Bridges for Supreme Court if he has a mind to run. I’d love to see Bridges whup the BIAW’s man.

    And I’d like to vote for more Republicans. They just have to show some degree of sanity.

    They have to be very unlike you…

    And if you’re not WOS, you sure got some tag team going there like you had with PacMan aka Jared Taylor’s fool.

  145. Puddybud spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 2:06 pm

    They need to see what a good librul headless lucy really is. They need to see his compassion. They need to see his racism.

    Then he has the audacity to write about George Allen. Up your headless lucy.

    I bet Darcy Moonbat! doesn’t know who supports her. Oh yes, I read Emily’s List does.

  146. Heathen Sinner spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 2:09 pm

    Puddybud, you sound gay – are you a gay Republican? Oh no.

  147. Puddybud spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 2:09 pm

    PacMan left bozoland because peeps like you didn’t take headless to task. Maybe his skin is thinner than mine. I also know this move took a real toll on his family life. It ain’t going too good for my friend Paccy.

    Tag teaming? You mean like your with your friends GLA and GLAAD? OR your friends ALF and ELF?

  148. For the Clueless spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 2:09 pm

    is your daughter turning tricks yet?

    Do I see a glimmer of support there for Foley, Puddybud? No wonder. Like most wingnuts he’d never pay for it, he’d always find a way to get what he wants with OPM – the room and the bubbly would be charged to the taxpayer.

    Cheap labor wingnuttery personified!!

  149. Heathen Sinner spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 2:11 pm

    All this name calling – isn’t it so sweet – smell the success.

  150. Puddybud spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 2:14 pm

    Headless Sinner: You have the wrong man for gayness. I suggest you try Rudejacks!, Boeing Bob, or Windie! I am very happily married way over 20+ years (not bragging) with the same woman. I love pussy; I practice everything imaginable you do to it to make the woman connected to it groggy eith ecstacy. I am a happy black man. I don’t need Viagra, Levitra or Cialis. God built me well. Thank you Jesus!

    MWS, my relatives are Western African. Well hung, quick footed and good looking! We can think on our feet and on our butts and we can easily use the Internet to dissect donk attacks.

  151. Heathen Sinner spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 2:17 pm

    Just checking, you sound very suspicious with those fancifull words.

  152. Puddybud spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 2:19 pm

    MWS: Funny joke on the pidgeon.

    Donk friends: I proved in URLs how Gore tried to kill the Pensacola vote, the Hillsborough County, Seminole and Martin Counties and then tried to recount the four donk controlled counties that had voting problems. I proved through URLs the problems Miami-Dade, Broward, Palm Beach, and Hillsborough Counties had with polling stations and they controlled the machine. I proved through family recollections from newspapaer articles how Gore and his lawyer gang (why do donk kill tort reform each time it comes up in Congress?) hated the military. When it broke 58/42 vs 70/30 they had to eat crow!

  153. Puddybud spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 2:21 pm

    Heathen Sinner: I have an IVY League edumication like Goldy and “K”. I choose to write ebonics because, well, I am from the inner city. Philadelphia that is. Remember Goldy is from the lily white ‘burbs around Philly. I gave you my addresses of where I grew up!

  154. Heathen Sinner spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 2:23 pm

    Anyone know how George is doing, he is our current President, isn’t he?

  155. Heathen Sinner spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 2:24 pm

    If you had any education, you would know how to spell it, maybe you were writing with you big black dick.

  156. Puddybud spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 2:28 pm

    Heathen Sinner: Either you are DUMB (maybe) or you don’t visit the Internet too often. Look up edumication. I use that word for a reason. See if you can figure it out.

  157. Heathen Sinner spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 2:30 pm

    Don’t want to waste my time. You go and look-up dip shit.

  158. Puddybud spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 2:40 pm

    Last post on Heathen Sinner as he’s not worth my time.

    Dip shit? Now you are showing cultural diversity? Are you equating brown skinned people with shit? More special name calling by the donk specialists. If you look at your post #155 you said I can’t spell education. Just proved that lie wrong. I told you why I use edumication. You are too dumb.

  159. Heathen Sinner spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 2:46 pm

    No, it’s just that you are too smart. Dip shit was not a reference to any color; merely reference to you. Pleasure speaking with you. Keep up the good work – name calling is so much fun.

  160. skagit spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 2:57 pm

    Commentby skagit [WE RULE!!! We do as we wish, we rape, we kill, we cheat, and you dumb ass libs vote for us every election!!]

    Commentby Doctor JCH Kennedy— 10/1/06@ 1:23 pm

    You heard it here first from the rectal orifice of the GOP!

  161. Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 3:13 pm

    skagit, “We” would mean “us Kennedys”…….You know, from MASS?? Ted, Pat, JFK, Bobby?? Hello??????

  162. Heathen Sinner spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 3:21 pm

    Now, now boys…..How old are we?

  163. Heathen Sinner spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 4:13 pm

    Boy, things got quite. Hope it wasn’t me – I didn’t mean to stop the conversation, I was just hoping more meaningfull discussions would ensue.

  164. Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 4:51 pm

    Hey Mooooooooslim terrorists!! JDB is selling ceramic bobblehead doll of the Prophet Muhammed on EBay! Now, some might consider this to be “disrespectful” of Islam, so you ragheads might consider doing a site check on JDB, and giving him a Mooooooooooooslim “visit”!!! If you do behead JDB, could I buy the “YouTube” video for resale? Best regards, and “BUSH NO GOOD!” JCH

  165. Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 4:53 pm

    If you had any education, you would know how to spell it, maybe you were writing with you big black dick.

    Commentby Heathen Sinner [??????? Heathen Sinner: JDB?]

  166. Mike Webb SUCKS spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 5:01 pm

    I know moonbats don’t have much compassion (witnes libruls on horsesass) but a friend of mind has a nephew going in for brain surgery tomorrow. Pray for his safety adn the doctors’ steady hands.

  167. Another TJ spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 6:35 pm

    I know moonbats don’t have much compassion (witnes libruls on horsesass) but a friend of mind has a nephew going in for brain surgery tomorrow. Pray for his safety adn the doctors’ steady hands.

    You’re a sick twist, but I’ll hope for the best because I’m better than you.

  168. For the Clueless spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 6:53 pm

    I have all the compassion in the world for your friend’s nephew. My best wishes to him, your friend and their respective families. At times like these politics are pretty superfluous.

    But I sure don’t have much in the tank for you WOS – you’ve done near zilch to earn it.

  169. For the Clueless spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 6:55 pm

    Hey PUDDYBUD!!!

    I just remembered that I voted for another Republican!

    Gerry Alexander, a Dan Evans Republican, a dying breed in this state.

    He whupped ass on the BIAW’s man – the asshole Groen.

    How sweet it is!!!

  170. Puddybud spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 7:26 pm

    So Clueless: You lied on the voting form as said you were Republican?

    WTF is that?

  171. Mike Webb SUCKS spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 7:32 pm

    I am a sick twist Always The Jerk? I doubt you know what you write about.

    Regarding you betting better than me. Isn’t that the standard leftist mantra? Isn’t that the reason you guys can’t be trusted with much in government?

  172. Doctor Maf54 Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 7:37 pm

    [WE RULE!!! We do as we wish, we rape, we kill, we cheat, and you dumb ass libs vote for us every election!!]

    Commentby Doctor JCH Kennedy— 10/1/06@ 1:23 pm

    Yep, it amazes me that people keep voting for Republicans like us, JCH, especially when if they knew that we live for taking it up the ass, they would hate us. Glad to know you don’t have any of them Kool smoking Malt liquor drinking heathen near you my white brother. Hopefully no women either, we wouldn’t want anyone to get in the way of our pure love JCH. I will need to meet you some time, where do you hang out?

  173. Daddy Love spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 7:40 pm

    112 MWS

    “I wrote Foley is innocent until proven guilty.”

    I guess I’m not sure what you’re talking about here. You’re going to assume that Foley is innocent of sending the IM and e-mail communications that he has admitted sending and that he resigned his seat over, until we is proven guilty of having sent them? I kinda don’t get it. That he sent them is a given at this point.

    He may or may not be guilty under the “Adam Walsh Child Protection and Safety Act of 2006” (of which Foley was a co-sponsor), along with 18 U.S.C. 2251, which make discussion or solicitation of sexual acts between Foley and any “minor” under the age of 18 a criminal offense. I can wait.

    The Republican leadership may or may not be found guilty of ethics violations for sitting on this for what looks like about a year. I can wait.

    But this is a scandal that’s going to be covered. It has sex, it has coverups, and it has lots of documentary evidence. Unlike the Abramoff scandal, this one is going to get covered in People magazine and the National Enquirer.

  174. Daddy Love spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 7:50 pm

    Of course, Foley might NOT be a sexual predator at all. I’m sure he asked one young boy to measure his penis and tell him the measurement and told another how he’d LOVE to slip his shorts off of him as part of his….um….RESEARCH for sexual predator bills. Yeah, research, that’s it.

  175. Daddy Love spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 7:54 pm

    What did Coach Hastert and his buddies know and when did they know it?

  176. Another TJ spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 8:12 pm

    I am a sick twist…?

    Most assuredly.

  177. Mike Webb SUCKS spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 9:12 pm

    You’re NOT my hero Always The Jerk.

  178. Puddybud spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 9:54 pm

    Clueless: You went dark!

    Did you say you are a Republican to vote for Alexander? If so you are exhibiting the traits of a pathological liar. So pathological liar, why should I EVER BELIEVE ANYTHING YOU BLOG AGAIN.

    You should just fold your tent and scram!

  179. For the Clueless spews:

    Sunday, 10/1/06 at 10:49 pm

    You lied on the voting form as said you were Republican?

    Gee Puddybud did you just have a brain fart or something? The judicial race was non-partisan but it’s well-know Alexander is a Republican.

    What are you going to tell me next that Groen is a lefty? How could that be? You voted for him!

    HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!

  180. Mike Webb SUCKS spews:

    Monday, 10/2/06 at 7:10 am

    For Thoroughly Clueless: You missed his point (Clueless maybe)! You had to choose party afflilation on this primary ballot. So you chose to be a Republican and lie about yourself? You really are a cross-dresser after all? I wonder if Mrs Clueless knows this? You mentioned earlier this year you have two children? I think it’s a legitimate question how you managed to vote conservative being a donk. Is schizophrenia a family disease?

  181. Mike Webb SUCKS spews:

    Monday, 10/2/06 at 7:19 am

    Here is why Kerry can’t be president.

    “The major issue in the Swiftboat stories is, and always has been, what John Kerry did in 1971 after he returned from Vietnam.

    Kerry cast a long dark shadow over all Vietnam Veterans with his outright perjury before the Senate concerning atrocities in Vietnam. His stories to the Senate committee were absolute lies..fabrications..perjury..fantasies, with NO substance. That dark shadow has defamed the entire Vietnam War veteran population, and gave “Aid and Comfort” to our enemies..the Vietnamese Communists. Kerry’s stories were outright fabrications, and were intended for political gain with the radical left..McGovern, Teddy and Bobby Kennedy followers, Jane Fonda, Tom Hayden, and the radical left who fantasized that George McGovern was going to be elected in 1972. Little wonder that returning soldiers from Vietnam were spit upon and castigated as “baby killers”. A returned war hero said so.

    Kerry cut a dashing figure as a war hero, lots of medals, and returned home because of multiple war wounds..even a silver star. His Senate testimony confirmed what every hippie had been chanting on the streets..”Hey hey LBJ..How many kids did you kill today”????? He obviously was running for political office in 1971.

    Until Lt. John O’ Neil, himself a Swiftboat commander, spoke out before the 1972 elections against Kerry’s outright deceptions, there was no one from the Swiftboat scene that could contradict Kerry’s self serving lies.

    I was a POW of the Vietnamese in Hanoi in 1971, and I am aware that the testimony of John Kerry, the actions of Jane Fonda and Tom Hayden, and the radical left; all caused the commies to conclude that if they hung on..they would win. North Vietnamese General Bui Tin commented that every day the Communist leadership listened to world news over the radio to follow the growth of the anti-war movement. Visits to Hanoi by Jane Fonda and Ramsey Clark gave them confidence to hold in the face of battlefield reverses. The guts of it was that propaganda from the anti-war group was part of their combat strategy.

    While the Commies were hanging on, innumerable U.S. Soldiers, Sailors, Marines and Air Force members were being killed in combat. Every battle wound to Americans after Kerry’s misdirected testimony is related to Kerry’s untruthfulness. John Kerry contributed to every one of these deaths with his lies about U.S. atrocities in Vietnam. He likewise defamed the U.S. with our allies and supporters. His conduct also extended the imprisonment of the Vietnam Prisoners of War, of which I was one. I am certain of at least one POW death after his testimony, which might have been prevented with an earlier release of the
    POWs.

    My friend and Hanoi Hilton room mate Senator John S. McCain denounced the Swiftboat video by John O’Neil. I have a different take on the Swiftboat tape and disagree with my good friend John.

    John Kerry opened up his character as a war hero reporting for duty to the country with a hand salute…and his band of brothers..of which he was the chief hero. Most of his convention speech was about John Kerry..Vietnam hero, and his band of brothers. John Kerry’s character is not only fair game, it is the primary issue. He wants to use Bill Clinton’s “is”, as an answer to his lack of character.

    The issue is trust. Can anyone trust John Kerry?? “Never lie, cheat or steal” is the West Point motto. When a witness perjures himself at trial, the judge notes that his testimony lacks credibility. Should we elect a known proven liar to lead us in wartime??

    I draw a direct comparison of General Benedict Arnold of the Revolutionary War, to Lieutenant John Kerry. Both went off to war, fought, and then turned against their country. General Arnold crossed over to the British for money and position. John Kerry crossed over to the Vietnamese with his assistance to the anti-war movement, and his direct liaison with the Vietnamese diplomats in Paris. His reward. Political gain. Senator..United States. His record as a Senator for twenty years has been pitiful. Conjure up, if you will, one major bill that he has sponsored.

    John Kerry for President? Ridiculous. Unthinkable. Unbelievable. Outrageous.”

    Col. Geo. “Bud” Day, Medal of Honor, Vietnam POW 1967-1973,USMC- USA- USAF- Attorney 1949-2004 850-243-1234

  182. Mike Webb SUCKS spews:

    Monday, 10/2/06 at 7:23 am

    Members have watched with envy as Mr. Murtha has used earmarks to remake Johnstown, Pa., an impoverished former steel town that now includes a Murtha highway, a Murtha airport and Murtha health centers. He has steered billions of dollars to his district over the years, including more than $80 million in the defense spending bill passed Friday, according to a preliminary tally.
    Mr. Murtha’s patronage has transformed Johnstown into a national hub of the defense business, attracting giants like Lockheed Martin and Northrop Grumman. He even built one contractor from scratch. In 1988, Mr. Murtha asked the chancellor of the University of Pittsburgh to set up a nonprofit that could use Navy money to establish a Center for Excellence in Metalworking in Johnstown.

    Since then, Mr. Murtha has delivered earmarks to the organization, now called Concurrent Technologies Corporation, for work like consulting on counterterrorism, designing ejection seats for pilots and developing software. The military and other federal agencies have paid Concurrent nearly a billion dollars in grants and contracts since 1999. In the most recent defense bill, Mr. Murtha inserted $1.3 million for Concurrent to research Army tank designs.

    “It is Murtha’s pet rock,” said Stephen Gage, chief executive of an Ohio economic development organization that once worked with Concurrent.

    Concurrent’s executives, in turn, have given more than $114,000 to the congressman’s campaigns over the last three elections, making it one of his biggest corporate donors. The organization pays about $500,000 a year to a lobbying firm, the PMA Group, whose executives and clients have given Mr. Murtha more than $1.2 million in donations since 1999.

    Can you say return unto the hand that feedeth thee?

  183. Mike Webb SUCKS spews:

    Monday, 10/2/06 at 7:24 am

    HERE, is a great web site. Pennsylvanians should stand up and notice.

    http://www.bootmurtha.com/

  184. Mike Webb SUCKS spews:

    Monday, 10/2/06 at 7:27 am

    Post #182 was a NY Times smippet. Goldie’s web system was “too busy to post” and I moved on so I lost the link. Awwwww too bad moonbats.

  185. Another TJ spews:

    Monday, 10/2/06 at 7:54 am

    You’re NOT my hero

    And to think, the only thing keeping me going all this time was my belief to the contrary. Oh, the humanity!

    You missed his point (Clueless maybe)! You had to choose party afflilation on this primary ballot.

    You are affilicted with an advanced case of the stupids. Seek help.

  186. For the Clueless spews:

    Monday, 10/2/06 at 8:02 am

    You had to choose party afflilation on this primary ballot.

    WOS – the cloud of brain farts through which you conduct what is charitably called your life has gotten the better of you. Scratch that – there is NO BETTER TO BE GOT!

    The ballot is divided in THREE sections. Democratic, Repulican and NON-PARTISAN.

    Guess where the judges races were? Did you even freakin’ vote?

    YOU ARE SO STTTUUUUUUUUUUUUUUPPPIIIIIIIIIID!

  187. Daddy Love spews:

    Monday, 10/2/06 at 9:36 am

    181 MWS

    So it’s Col. Geo. “Bud” Day’s opinion the Kerry did not tell the truth? How convincing.

    You know, Day was captured and tortured. I certainly don’t blame him for being angry at anti-war protesters. I can see that as one very plausible reaction to what he endured. But that doesn’t meant that he knows the details about what John Kerry said. And John Kerry was only one of hundreds of VVAW. It just happens that John Kerry was a born leader who led in Vietnam and rose to lead an antiwar organization after he realized the war’s folly.

    In the absence of any factual claims by Bud Day, I don’t find his opinion to be particularly useful. Doesn’t add a lot to a discussion; just increases the noise.

  188. Daddy Love spews:

    Monday, 10/2/06 at 9:40 am

    You know, if Congressman Foley had chosen to be a Democrat, perhaps he could have come out with his homosexuality and someday have a mature adult homosexual relationship with some nice man. Instead he’s Republican, closeted, stunted, stuck in a perpetual adolesent fantasy world which then leads him to use his considerable power to prey on young teenage boys in secret and then what…drink himself insensible afterward in shame?

    Healthy party you guys have there.

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