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Drinking Liberally — Seattle

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DLBottleIt’s Tuesday, and that means the Seattle Chapter of Drinking Liberally gets together for conversations over a drink. Stop by if you wish.

We meet tonight and every Tuesday at the Roanoke Park Place Tavern, 2409 10th Ave E, Seattle. You’ll find us in the back room starting about 8:00pm.

Chapters of Living Liberally are all over the place…if you can’t make it to the Seattle chapter, stop by another chapter near you.

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  1. It’s Tuesday, indeed. It’s also poll time:

    Harvard/Harris: A majority supports Operation Epic Fury.

  2. More polling info:

    Harvard Harris Poll: Key Takeaways on Iran & the War:

    •76% say the U.S. is currently winning the war against Iran

    •64% say Iran violated its nuclear deal

    •62% view Iran as a direct U.S. national security threat

    •67% say Iran is a leading source of instability, terrorism, and war

    •68% believe the Iranian people do not support the regime

    •73% support Israel over Hamas

    •51% support U.S. Israel strikes on Iran, 54% say the campaign is justified

  3. Gallup clearly did not poll G-clown:

    U.S. Energy Concerns Not Spiking in War’s Early Stages
    Thirty-five percent of U.S. adults worry a great deal about the availability and affordability of energy, the same as in 2025

    WASHINGTON, D.C. — During the initial weeks of the U.S. war with Iran, Americans appear to be taking higher energy costs in stride. About one in three U.S. adults interviewed March 2-18 say they worry “a great deal” about the availability and affordability of energy, unchanged from a year ago. Relatively few mention high gas prices as the most important problem facing the nation. And 43% of U.S. adults, lower than Gallup has seen at other times of high gas prices, expect the U.S. to face a critical energy shortage in the next five years.
    …
    Thirty-five percent of U.S. adults say they worry “a great deal” about the availability and affordability of energy, unchanged from last year and similar to the 2024 reading of 37%. In 2022, during the last major spike in gas prices, 47% said they worried a great deal.

    To be fair, Biden gave people far more reason to worry about everything.

    Boxcheck Momala was not a serious choice for vice president.

  4. Say, who’s looking forward to the EC distribution after the 2030 census?

    Kevin Dalton
    @TheKevinDalton

    Los Angeles County sees largest population decline in the U.S.

    The Gavin Newsom Effect continues.

    11:41 AM · Mar 30, 2026

    Nice 21 second video clip showing how many people are moving where. A surprising number moving to WA. Not many moving to OR, which is too bad, as OR is predicted by some to lose an electoral vote after the census.

  5. I own this orange pos:

    The Russian oil tanker Anatoly Kolodkin was just offshore the port of Matanzas, Cuba, early this morning, carrying an estimated 730,000 barrels of oil. The delivery offers a critical measure of relief for the island nation, which has struggled to function under crippling, sometimes dayslong electricity blackouts since January, when the Trump administration told the rest of the world to stop providing Cuba with oil.

    President Trump eased up on that stance over the weekend. “We don’t mind having somebody get a boatload, because they need — they have to survive,” Trump said on Sunday night. “I told them, if a country wants to send some oil into Cuba right now, I have no problem with that. Whether it’s Russia or not.”

    Kiss my ass, lil’ Marco..

  6. @ 5

    It’s a 12.5 day lifeline, and that’s assuming Cuba still possesses the ability to convert it to diesel.

    There is little benefit to the US – and substantially more headache – if Iran and Cuba each collapse at the same time.

  9. Can’t have anyone ready to step up and lead when the IGRC falls, can they?

    They were living under the old leadership, no?

  11. The bikes should be crushed in a public event.

    San Francisco & Peninsula News
    85 bikes seized, riders cited during Bay Bridge take over attempt, CHP says

    The California Highway Patrol said its officers were alerted by the San Francisco Police Department that a large group of bicyclists was riding through the streets recklessly and were believed to be heading to the Bay Bridge, with the intent of taking over the bridge.

    The San Francisco Police Department said its real-time investigations center conducted surveillance on the group, providing updates on their whereabouts. The riders were seen riding directly at moving vehicles, swerving in and out of traffic and coming dangerously close to pedestrians on city streets, CHP said.
    …
    The group entered the bridge by riding the wrong way up the Harrison Street off-ramp, where they were met by officers from the CHP and police department, the CHP said.

    Deranged libbies have more to worry about than just ICE.

  13. There is nothing a liberal mother won’t do to keep her child safe.

    Mom told investigators she killed daughter to protect her from Elon Musk, authorities say

    MADISON, Wis. (WMTV/Gray News) – A mom in Wisconsin allegedly told investigators she killed her daughter to protect her from Elon Musk, according to authorities.

    Tyiece Oninski called the non-emergency number of the Rock County Communications Center on Friday, March 20, claiming she had killed her daughter.
    …
    Oninski told dispatchers she “murdered [her daughter] to protect her from somebody else, period,” and later explained she was protecting her daughter from Elon Musk.

    She requested an ambulance and a hearse. When dispatch asked if she wanted an ambulance for her daughter, Oniknski allegedly responded, “she’s dead, honey. She needs a hearse.”

    Joke’s on her. It was a Tesla hearse.

  14. They were livingimprisoned under the old leadership…

    Israel kills the old guard and now they’re dead. And dumbfuck remains a cucked dumbfuck Israel fan boi for our entertainment.

    Thanks Israel.

  16. @ 15

    Your tally would include Twin Towers deaths if Tesla had a dealership on the ground floor of one of them when the planes hit.

  17. Just do it.

    Eyal Yakoby
    @EYakoby

    BREAKING: Huge uplift in vessel traffic through the Strait of Hormuz today.

    The regime has lost control.

    8:11 AM · Mar 31, 2026

    Twelve seconds of video showing ships moving through the Strait.

    Iran has no air force. Iran has no navy. Iran has no missile production. Iran has almost no drone production.

    And it’s being noticed.

  19. What, no expressions of outrage over today’s 8-1 SCOTUS opinion?

    Why, it’s almost as if cutting the breasts and penises off of minor children is a step too far, even for far-left libbies.

  20. What, no expressions of outrage over today’s 8-1 SCOTUS opinion?

    By a vote of 8-1, the justices agreed with Kaley Chiles, the licensed counselor challenging the law, that the ban discriminates against her based on the views that she expresses in her talk therapy.

    “pray teh gay away” is protected speech..

    A comfort to ignorant parents.

    cutting the breasts and penises off of minor children is a step too far

    And a silly dumbfuck remains a dumbfuck..

  21. @ 19

    Ah. Libbies don’t want to touch the Chiles opinion because part of it includes Kagan calling KBJ a moron.

    Greg Price
    @greg_price11

    Wow.

    Justice Kagan’s concurring opinion attacks the dissent of her fellow liberal Justice Jackson.

    7:11 AM · Mar 31, 2026

  22. Justice Kagan’s concurring opinion attacks the dissent of her fellow liberal Justice Jackson.

    KBJ made a states rights argument.. Over a state’s right to regulate health care. Something repukes do all the time..

    well when it’s convenient for them.

    This is all I could find about Kagan’s “attack”:

    JUSTICE JACKSON’s dissenting opinion claims that this is a small, or even nonexistent, category. See post, at 21–22, n. 8. But even her own opinion, when listing laws supposedly put at risk today, offers quite a few examples. See post, at 32–33, and n. 13. Her view to the contrary rests on reimagining—and in that way collapsing—the well-settled distinction between viewpoint-based and other content-based speech restrictions. See, e.g., Vidal v. Elster, 602 U. S. 286, 292–293 (2024) (explaining the difference).

    A lawyerly disagreement.. yawwwn.. In summary, more masturbatory fever swamp blather from dumbfuck.

  23. Oracle cutting 18% of its workforce.

    POP!

    It was going to happen sooner or later. The hope had been that it could be delayed just long enough to turn the AI crap shoot around. But then President Angry Grandpa started a Holy Sport War and closed the Strait of Hormuz. And so we got sooner.

  24. @ 23

    POP!

    Massive revenue expansions go BOOM!, not pop.

    In September, Oracle disclosed that its remaining performance obligations, a measure of contracted revenue that has not yet been recognized, jumped 359% to $455 billion following an agreement with OpenAI worth over $300 billion.
    …
    “Demand for AI infrastructure, both GPU and CPU, continues to exceed supply,” Magouyrk said on an earnings call earlier this month. “This is directly visible in our $553 billion remaining performance obligations.”

    I assume those obligations will be met by the remaining employees, who apparently took Democrats’ advice some years ago and learned to code.

  25. Not a good day on Wall Street today. NOT A BUYING OPPORTUNITY DAY!

    Dead babies!? THE DOW IS AT 50,000!

  26. Libbies don’t want to touch the Chiles opinion because part of it includes…

    … me apparently imploring my pre-teen patients to take up cigarette smoking.

    Cuz that’s muh “viewpoint”.

  27. @ 22

    KBJ made a states rights argument..

    Arguing that the Tenth Amendment trumps the First Amendment is usually a nonstarter, YLB.

    Kagan called out KBJ for claiming no difference between viewpoint-neutral speech and viewpoint-based speech. Instead of just reading the footnote you should read the asterisk-containing section in the text of the concurrence that leads to that footnote. Here, let me help you out:

    The same may well be true of content-based but viewpoint-neutral laws regulating speech in doctors’ and counselors’ offices.[2]* Medical care typically involves speech, so the regulation of medical care (which is, of course, pervasive) may involve speech restrictions. And those restrictions will generally refer to the speech’s content. Cf. Reed, 576 U. S., at 177 (Breyer, J., concurring in judgment) (noting that “[r]egulatory programs” addressing speech “inevitably involve content discrimination”). But laws of that kind may not pose the risk of censorship—of “official suppression of ideas”—that appropriately triggers our most rigorous review. R. A. V., 505 U. S., at 390. And that means the “difference between viewpoint-based and viewpoint-neutral content discrimination” in the health-care context could prove “decisive.” Vidal, 602 U. S., at 330 (opinion of Sotomayor, J.). Fuller consideration of that question, though, can wait for another day. We need not here decide how to assess viewpoint-neutral laws regulating health providers’ expression because, as the Court holds, Colorado’s is not one.

    https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/607/24-539/

  31. @24

    Quoting an article on mass layoffs at Oracle isn’t the flex you think it is.

    You just assumed no one would cut and paste a quote about six months ago (September in the quoted passage) to get context.

    MAGAts are so lazy.

  32. Is there any more aggressive way “a country that shall remain unnamed” might project authority within the region of the Persian Gulf than to put a toll booth on the Strait of Hormuz?

  33. We got us a billion dollar hole in the ground and potential destruction of government property’s charges.

    Judge on the Ballroom and by extension Kennedy Center:

    No statute comes close to giving the President the authority he claims to have.

    Donnie of course over on his fake Twatter is taking it well.

  34. Republicans aren’t “originalists” all the time, it seems, only when it suits them:

    In court filings, Solicitor General D. John Sauer told the justices to imagine a century-old statute guaranteeing “equal protection of the laws.” Lawmakers who passed it would’ve intended it to allow for separate-but-equal facilities. But courts today wouldn’t read it that way, Sauer noted. They’d interpret it to forbid segregation.

    Sauer says the same logic should apply to the 1940 citizenship law. “Because that statute echoes the Citizenship Clause’s language, it is best understood to codify the Clause’s objective meaning, not a late-arising misunderstanding of the Clause,” Sauer wrote in court filings.

    https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5808113-trump-birthright-citizenship-supreme-court/

    Now for a lesson in statutory interpretation. Courts interpret statutes according to legislative intent. Thus, if Congress enacts a law in 1940 containing language identical to a constitutional amendment Congress approved in 1866, but the 1940 Congress’s interpretation of the language is different, courts must go with the intent of the 1940 Congress, not the 1966 Congress, because they’re interpreting the statute, not the amendment. Courts can, of course, conclude that the 1940 Congress’s intent was identical to the 1866 Congress’s intent, but are not required to do so, and this should be a matter of objective analysis. Got that, armchair lawyers? All the Supreme Court justices know this, of course, so let’s just hope no more than four of them are partisan hacks who set aside proper legal analysis in favor of the bigotry of a political faction.

  35. What goes Pop! are rapidly deflating balloons worn as fake breasts. Like the ones Kristi Noem’s hubby apparently likes to wear.

  36. ‘Nother one

    Federal courts say Executive Branch cannot shut off funding to NPR/PBS.

    Reading the opinion had the Orange Messiah not peppered his order with language of doing it for bias in coverage and ‘unfair’ treatment of Republicans it might have stood.

    BUT the Trump administrations is permanently enjoined from trying again because the original violation of the first amendment makes any future made up fiscal or organizational argument for defunding smell like bullshit.

  37. @6 There is little benefit to the US – and substantially more headache – if Iran and Cuba each collapse at the same time.

    Why’s that? Because we only have enough troops to colonize only one country at a time?

  39. @12 Iran isn’t the only country imprisoning people for ideological reasons. America’s dictatorship does it, too.

  40. @27 Arguing that the Tenth Amendment trumps the First Amendment is usually a nonstarter, YLB.

    Yeah, and this aggravates DeSantis to no end.

  41. @35 Does anyone here besides you give half a shit about what Kristi Dogkiller’s cuckolded husband wears?

  42. A little racism and then uses the EXACT EXAMPLE debated in Congress passing the amendment.

    Donald J. Trump @realDonald Trump

    Birthright Citizenship has to do with the babies of slaves, not Chinese Billionaires who have 56 kids, all of whom “become” American Citizens. One of the many Great Scams of our time! President DONALD J. TRUMP

    Sen Cowan on debating the 14th Amendment

    is it proposed that the people of California are to remain quiescent while they are overrun by a flood of immigration of the Mongol race? Are they to be immigrated out of house and home by the Chinese?
    ..,
    They may pour in their millions upon our Pacific coast in a very short time. Are the states to lose control over this immigration?

    Sen. Congress, CA replies

    the children begotten of Chinese parents in California, and it is proposed to declare that they shall be citizens.
    …
    I voted for the proposition to declare that the children of all parentage whatever, born in California, should be regarded and treated as citizens of the United States, entitled to equal civil rights with other citizens of the United States.

    It was literally considered by the original debate on what ‘Citizenship’ and ‘Persons’ would mean.

    Where’s this 56 baby Havin’ chinese welfare queen this gutter rapist is pointing to?

  43. I assume those obligations will be met by the remaining employees, who apparently took Democrats’ advice some years ago and learned to code.

    Both Oracle and Amazon and other big tech have laid off thousands.. Why?

    They need the money to buy GPUs for Data Centers.

    And “learn to code”.. why bother?

    Has dumbfuck ever heard of “dark factories”? 3 guy shops churning out fully kitted software applications for paying customers and not writing a single line of code.

    How do they do that? They write something but it’s not code. Sometimes they don’t even write anything. They can dictate with voice.

    The world is changing rapidly and magats and most klownservaturds have feet of clay.

  44. Socialism is really fucking up San Francisco politics.

    One month ago:

    Protester shouts ‘tax the Jews’ at San Francisco event announcing plan to increase housing, jobs
    The Democratic Socialists of America, who organized the protest at a press conference with the city’s Jewish mayor, claim the woman is not part of their organization.

    And now we have a DSA SF supervisor finally admitting she’s a fucking psycho.

    Mission Local reported that Fielder told the outlet in a brief phone interview Friday that she is not well and planning to quit.

    “Jackie Fielder is going through an acute personal health crisis right now and we are not at liberty to share details, but we appreciate the support people have given us and are proud of her for taking care of herself,” Fielder’s legislative aide said in a statement on her condition shared with the Chronicle.

    Undiagnosed psychosis at a minimum is, of course, a requirement for advancement in any DSA member group.

  45. @ 43

    YLB has an announcement for all of us:

    They write something but it’s not code. Sometimes they don’t even write anything. They can dictate with voice.

    The world is changing rapidly …

    Say, did anyone here besides YLB not know that speech recognition has been around for nearly 30 years?

  46. speech recognition has been around for nearly 30 years?

    And since when has talking into a microphone resulted in software for paying customers? And not writing a line of code?

    Dumbfuck remains a dumbfuck and it didn’t even bother to google “dark factories”.

  47. dumbfuck is so “serious” it conflates talk therapy with surgery.

    Or it’s just fucking stupid.

  48. Say, did someone mention San Francisco?

    Top S.F. official who led Dream Keeper equity program charged with felonies: ‘abuse of power’

    Sheryl Davis, once San Francisco’s most powerful civil rights watchdog, continued her spectacular fall on Monday when she was booked on suspicion of a raft of felony financial misconduct and ethics-related charges, the Chronicle has learned.

    Oh, look! More people cashing in on George Floyd’s overdose death:

    Prosecutors said Davis used public funds for personal benefit, while a city audit flagged spending on a 30-night luxury hotel stay, hundreds of sports tickets and lavishly catered events.

    Dream Keeper was described as a $120 million investment in San Francisco’s Black communities following Floyd’s death, with officials initially seeking to redirect funding away from law enforcement.

    Prosecutors alleged Davis remained connected to the nonprofit’s finances even after taking her city role, including serving as a signatory on its bank account and helping steer how the money was spent.

  50. @44 First of all, Fielder isn’t the “protester.” Not sure you insinuated that, but your comment could be read that way. From your first link:

    Jackie Fielder, a member of DSA and the San Francisco Board of Supervisors for District 9, said the woman who was shouting anti-Jewish language is “mentally unstable” and “known to construction workers in the area.” She said the confined setting made it difficult to distinguish her from other protesters. The woman has not been publicly identified.

    Secondly, nothing in your second link says Fielder’s health issue is psychological in nature, but Wikipedia noted that “A statement from her office said she was ‘navigating a mental health condition.'” That doesn’t mean she’s “psycho.”

    However, countless of your HA posts strongly indicate you’re psycho.

  51. @41

    I had the video and I shared it with VLAD. Why do you think Kristi helped us get the geriatric to attack Iran and let Vlad sell the oil. Now that she’s of no use to me we can burn her.

  52. They are literally delusional.

    Rep McCormick R-GA went on Newsmax

    We were horrible in Vietnam until we did Rolling Thunder Two, then we won. As soon as we do half-measures, we lose. The faster we get this over the better. If we seize Kharg island, it could be done almost flawlessly. If we have enough firepower, it would be very easy to defend.”

  53. @42,

    Well?
    Just as predicted the Golden State has been completely overrun with Carradines.
    You can’t get a lunch reservation anywhere in this town.

  54. 50,

    If the troll is busy posting, then the troll is busy lying.

    It’s the First Axiom of HA.

  55. Fat Hitler just signed an EO ordering the creation of a national voter registration system.

    It’s already blocked before he’s even had a chance to sell the Sharpie.

    Looks like he’s ready to admit he’s not getting his voter suppression act passed. 🌮

  58. Trump has scheduled a nationwide TV address tomorrow night to announce “mission accomplished.”

  59. BREAKING:

    Doddering old fool has an unconstitutional directive put in front of him and signs it.

    Film at eleven.

    (The executive branch has as much authority over elections as I have over my now 21 year old daughter’s curfew time at University)

  61. You have to understand we defeated you.

    We beat you in every way.

    I don’t care anymore if you control the Straight of Hormuz.

    It’s immaterial.

    We won.

    You lost.

    Accept our terms of surrender or we will keep trying to blow up your defenses and kill your civilians.

  62. Accept our terms of surrender or we will keep…

    …feeding you the children of our poor.

  63. Yes, President Trump was found to have raped a woman by a jury in a court of law.

    A randomly selected jury of 12 persons sworn to consider only the evidence.

  64. Fat Hitler is still withholding the Epstein Files.

    It’s not coincidental.

  66. As soon as someone is brave enough to explain to President Angry Grandpa that he will be forced to sit quietly for 90 minutes while other people talk in tomorrow’s SCOTUS oral, he will cancel his appearance.

    Or we are going to get artists renderings of a sick old man sleeping.

  67. Iran now busy executing its imprisoned dissidents.

    American Taliban tactic.

    But I get your point in that you not so much bothered by the executions, you’re just trying to rub in a victory. But it’s a bit premature, just like everything you do is. You best hope you don’t have to eat your own ass.

  68. The funniest part of this is that Bob, and many other men, can’t run faster than many woman. They never could and never will be able to,

    That’s why they don’t want them to have the right to vote.

  69. Pool betting on Polymarket for when the sick old man falls asleep during oral.

  70. Iran now busy executing its imprisoned dissidents.

    ICE has been doing that here for more than a year now.

    I guess that means MAGA is thoroughly beaten.

  75. A sobering reality of what Americans should be looking forward to after Republicans lose control of Congress next year is that Trump will go wild with his veto pen.

    And without two-thirds majorities to override his vetos, new legislation restoring healthcare funding, restoring cuts to Medicare, reforming DHS, the DOJ, and the DOD will not be possible. Trump will use his cult control over remaining MAGA Republicans in Congress to attempt to block everything. And the MAGA zombies will produce more shitdowns than ever before.

    It’s important for Democrats to talk about what they can do for Americans after the MAGA majorities are swept out of office, including what they can do for Americans after Trump is gone forever. But it’s also important for Democrats to be realistic, mindful of the legislative leverage granted to a Congressional minority in league with an insane dictator. And the messaging defining that looming allegiance needs to begin now.

    Trump is an insane cult leader. Everything about him, his weird family, his disfunctional cabinet of cronies and grifters, and his meat puppets in Congress plays directly into that narrative. The weird cabinet praise sessions. Gold statues. Putting his name on the money. His rants to his cult. His grotesque ballroom. His naked lust for violence and power. His mandatory prayer sessions. The giant shoes to signal obedience. It all tracks and plays directly into defining his lame duck final two years as an insane cult mass suicide hoping to drag America into oblivion.

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