The Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally meets tonight (and every Tuesday), 8PM at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E. Come join us for some good beer and even better conversation.
If you happen to be a liberal drinker on the other side of the mountains, the Tri-Cities chapter of DL also meets Tuesday nights, 7 PM, Atomic Ale, 1015 Lee Blvd., in Richland. Go ask Jimmy for more details.
Meanwhile the Tacoma chapter of DL meets tomorrow night (and every Wednesday,) 8 PM at Meconi’s Pub, 709 Pacific Ave. They’ll be launching their “Guest Drinker” series with Rep. Dawn Morrell (D-Puyallup).
First – Wingnuts blow!!!
Let’s see, with Al-Zarqawi eating an extra helping of US Air Force tactical bomber loving and a certain member the King County Elections department getting an out of state pay raise, hell yeah I’ll be stopping by to break bread with you folks.
Just get Montlake to start serving hard pear cider from now on.
Add this to your topics for discussion tonight.
I received an e-mail from the Dept. of Transportation. It said in part:
“Hear and Be Heard
at public open houses to be held this month:
Roads, Bridges & Mobility
Building our Transportation Future
You Have Choices: Put Yourself in the Driver’s Seat
Learn about the recently completed Tolling Study that examines ways to better use our existing road capacity and to fund sorely needed infrastructure to keep our state moving forward.
Take Control of the Wheel
Come speak with the Transportation Commissioners and see how today’s advances in tolling technology are effectively improving mobility.
See how other states are getting a grip on congestion by optimizing their roadway capacity through tolling.
Watch a 3-D animation of how electronic toll collection will work on Washington’s newest toll projects.
Hear the latest on the Tacoma Narrows Bridge and Good to Go!, the modern, easy-to-use e-sticker for your car so you can pay tolls without stopping.
Determine Your Destination
Then tell us what you think. We’ll use your comments to let the Washington State Legislature know how transportation issues affect our lifestyle and our economy.”
Sounds to me like the issue is already decided. This isn’t a “be heard” meeting as much as a “be told” meeting, an excuse to trot out a dog-and-pony show put on by the contractors who want the state to pay for an electronic tolling system.
I don’t like tolls on public highways, because they are the first step towards a segregated transportation system. The wealthy get favored treatment, the rest of us get stuck in the traffic, watching them whiz by. The wealthy will oppose future attempts to improve the entire system becuase it doesn’t affect them, so they don’t want to help pay for it. The toll lanes will get better, the rest of the system will decline.
It is interesting that the only meeting schedule for the Seattle area will be held in Mercer Island!
Also interesting today is an article that says Russians are getting fed up with the wealthy and influential being able to use the center lanes, and being largely immune to traffic laws.
Too much info to post all of it here. I put most of it here.
RHP… uh… that’s how it works pal. The wealthy get to live better because they make the world a better place. That’s how they got wealthy; by producing something that people want and are willing to pay for. Why the fuck should I be forced to sit in traffic while shit like you impede my progress? My time is worth more than yours. Sit there and stew in the mess you made of your life. I’ve got things to do…
HOw many of you moonbats will be riding buses to DL tonight? Remember what your GOd ALgore said… you all have to do your part. C’mon… get on Ron Sims empty fucking buses and ride there. Do your part so we don’t all die.
Or do you just want others to follow your religion?
Congressional investigators say the government doled out as much as $1.4 billion in bogus help to victims of Hurricanes Katrina and Rita, getting hoodwinked to pay for season football tickets, a tropical vacation and even a
divorce lawyer.
Prison inmates, a supposed victim who used a New Orleans cemetery for a home address, and a person who spent 70 days at a Hawaiian hotel all were able to wrongly get taxpayer help, according to evidence that gives a new black eye to the nation’s
disaster relief agency. [………………………………………….So GBS was visiting Hawaii for a couple months!!! Spending other people’s money is sooooooo much better than spending your own!!!]
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“The wealthy get to live better because they make the world a better place.” Commentby Mark The Redneck Kennedy— 6/13/06@ 6:05 pm
haw! haw! haw! I’m adding this one to my collection of unforgettable Reddick quotes! You’ll be seeing it again on HorsesAss — I promise!
No, Mark, the wealthy live better because they’re greedier and better at grabbing than the rest of us.
Roger Rabbit rarely attends DL two weeks in a row because a moving target is harder to hit — just ask the Republicans who ran in all directions when Dick Cheney invited them on a hunting trip.
AND NOW FOR A WORD FROM A BIGOT
From today’s Seattle Times letters to the editor:
“Regarding the death of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, it is now one down and 1,299,999,999 to go! Just how much does one of those 500-pound bombs cost? — Will Stoddard, Sequim”
http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....ets13.html
Hmmm … let’s see … what does Mr. Stoddard of Sequim have in mind? According to Wikipedia, “There are approximately 1.2-1.3 billion Muslims worldwide.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim
Yup, that’s it — kill ’em all … men, women, and children … guilty or innocent. At least this wingfuck, unlike our resident trollfucks, does some research and got the number of the world’s Muslims right. (It took me 5 seconds to find it on Wikipedia, but that’s more work than any of HA’s trollfucks, who habitually muck up even elementary facts, are willing to invest in intellectual activity.)
Betcha Mr. Will Fucking Bigot Stoddard of Sequim voted for Rossi, too. He sounds like the type who would.
Correction: Posts 7, 8, and 9 above are by Roger Rabbit, not Mrs. Rabbit d/b/a Gop Lies.
Another letter in today’s Seattle Times (same link as above), by Dan Allison of Lake Forest Park, is worth quoting from:
“Regarding ‘Online persona can ruin your shot at that job’ [page one, June 11], it’s appalling that employers would be snooping around a prospective employee’s personal life using Google or the social-networking Web sites such as Facebook, MySpace, etc.
“Frankly, it’s none of their business what someone does in their personal life …. If a company determines through online searches that a prospective employee’s politics are at odds with those of the company or the boss, what’s to stop the hiring manager from throwing that person’s résumé in the trash? …
“Finally, one word of advice for people who put their persona online and who might be concerned about the misuse of this information: Don’t use your real name ….”
Any questions, trolls? Hey, if John Craig Herman of Hawaii doesn’t care if we know he’s the idiot posting as “JCH” (note use of real initials), that’s his business. As for “Roger Rabbit,” that’s a FAKE name, in case you wingidiots didn’t realize it.
I am, however, a real rabbit when there’s a full moon.
Speaking of rabbits, why does Bush need a 747 and 667 barrels of oil to hug Dave Reichert, when Darcy Burner can hug Roger Rabbit with nothing more than her right arm? The 8th Congressional District needs a congress(wo)man who can get things done without burning half the world’s oil reserves to do them! It’s time for a change.
Do the math: A 747 burns 5 gallons of jet fuel per mile (according to Boeing), and it’s 5,600 miles roundtrip from D.C. to Seattle, and there’s 42 gallons in a barrel, so that’s 667 barrels of kerosene.
Just to raise money for a congressman who’s so stupid it took him 20 years as a cop to catch a serial killer, and at the rate he’s going, it’s going to take him at least that long to hug a rabbit as a congressman.
Washington — Democratic House and Senate leaders are planning to reduce the cost of student loans and prescription drugs, raise the minimum wage and launch an effort to develop alternative fuels if they win back control of Congress. In an interview Tuesday with USA TODAY, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi previewed the “New Direction for America” platform hammered out by Democratic members of Congress, mayors and governors. [………………………………………………………….Onward To Socialism!!!!]
Also in today’s Seattle Times, columnist Leonard Pitt, writing about Ann Coulter, offers us this memorable portrait of the people who worship the Virgin Bitch:
“Frankly, it’s easy to do what Coulter does. Just say the most outrageous thing in the most inflammatory way. Just give moral and mental cover to that small-minded, anti-intellectual strain of the electorate that recoils like Superman in the face of Kryptonite from complexity and incertitude. And when people call you on it, just wrap yourself in the flag and declare yourself a straight-shootin’ conservative under siege by that mean ol’ liberal media. … Ann Coulter is not reviled because she is conservative. … No, Coulter is reviled because she is mean, malicious, the barbed-wire frontwoman for a cabal of bloviators, bully boys and blowhards …. But again, it plays in Peoria. And why not? It is loud, simple, stupid.”
http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....tts13.html
Small minded. Anti-intellectual. Recoils from complexity and incertitude. Wrap themselves in the flag and bawl about being abused by the mean liberal media. A cabal of bloviators, bully boys, and blowhards. Loud, simple, stupid.
Sure sounds a lot like our HA troll cabal.
Man, it sure is a kick poking fun at the trollfucks! It’s easy, too.
I have always been a staunch Republican. I have even managed to ignore the obvious betrayals of the Neocons to the conservative Republican values of fiscal responsibility and restraint in international affairs.
But this lady in the “Dates for Democrats” blogads is making me feel kind of funny. There she is with her basketball, ponytail, winning smile and pert …. Nothing at all like the frumpish bagladies in the Republican party.
Well, I am thinking that perhaps I cannot forgive the neocons anymore!
I am voting Democratic this year!
Does anyone know how I can get in touch with that lovely lass?
In a previous thread I called Sillyguy’s scheme to amend the state constitution to require revotes in close elections “a flying machine that won’t fly.”
Let’s check on Sillyguy to see if he’s gotten that thing off the ground yet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I.....hopter.JPG
Nope, it (and he) are still on the ground. But I betcha she’d get airborne if he takes her down to the Gulf Coast and sets her up on the beach when a hurricane comes ashore.
Rabbit @ 7 – That’s why you are a fucking loser. That’s why you bitch about being poor. You don’t get it. Wasted your whole life not getting it. LMAO……..
Sillyguy, you’re supposed to run things like that past the RNC before you publish them — you know, peer review. Rove might not like your idea. He might say something like,
“YOU FUCKING IDIOT!!! HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN FLORIDA AND OHIO? WHAT WERE YOU THINKING??!”
Carlson had Coulter on yesterday. She was great. You guys are pissed because she called bullshit on your tactic of having “untouchable” kooks out there like Sheehan and Murtha. You tried to position them as being above criticism. Bullshit. Game over.
You guys hate it because MSM is no longer “main”. You don’t get to decide what the news is and how to spin it. You can’t win the intellectual argument, so you tried putting up people that we can’t attack. Bullshit…. they’re shrill hacks just like the rest of you. They (and you) WILL be challenged. And as usual, you will lose.
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I don’t bitch about being poor. One reason being I’m not poor. … I don’t bitch about paying FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS in alimony and child support either. Because I didn’t have to. (pause)
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Betcha Mr. Will Fucking Bigot Stoddard of Sequim voted for Rossi, too. He sounds like the type who would.
Commentby Gop Lies— 6/13/06@ 7:56 pm
Gop Lies what a stupid name, and did your other half man/women/wife/girl friend/donkey/goat/sheep/ or more than one partner stick you out back in the dog house. You talk like you got your butt whip. Maybe you should go to your rainbow church the Godless Socialist Democrats, get on your prayer rug, and then thank the Socialist for you perfect world.
HEY TROLLS! I see that John Carlson is teaming up with Gary Locke to promote the REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION TAX PACKAGE. I think we’re now only one step away from Carlson doing shows on Rossi’s failed attempt to steal the election.
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“Does anyone know how I can get in touch with that lovely lass?” Commentby I feel funny— 6/13/06@ 8:18 pm
No, but there’s more where she came. Try this:
1) Attend your district Democratic organization’s monthly meetings,
2) Join the U.W. Chapter of Young Democrats,
3) Attend Drinking Liberally,
4) Become an itinerant Democratic campaign worker,
5) Join Ex-Republicans Anonymous and attend their meetings at least three times weekly.
Geez, you guys have had a bad run last week or so…
1) Zarqawi killed.
2) Dean Logan out.
3) Rove cleared.
Two of your guys taken out. Our guy untouched.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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I find it interesting that you noticed her face. Most people don’t make it past the bottom half of the picture.
Carlson had Coulter on yesterday. She was great.
Commentby Mark The Redneck Kennedy— 6/13/06@ 8:25 pm
Looks like Mark duh Redneck is fixing to lose $500,000 and his penis this time!
HAR HAR HAR!
Not whining about Ann Coulter again. Whaaaaaaaa. You dems are pussies. No wonder the military hates you. Hehe
Geez, you CONS have had a bad run last week or so…
1) Zarqawi killed. (Have to invent a new Boogeyman)
2) Dean Logan got a better job.
3) Rove ratted out Cheney to save his ass.
One of your guy’s (Zarqawi) taken out, One of your favorite targets-for-lies gets a promotion, and the King Maker makes a deal to save his puffy ass.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Looks like LA county is gearing up for a tight election. They got a good hack in Logan. I wonder what hack will replace him? I wonder if he will have that same dumb “deer in the headlight” look as Dean did when he fucks up the next election? Only time will tell.
All the drunks gathering with their fat guts hanging out of their “Che” T-Shirts while balancing on the bar with butts so big only one cheek will fit on it at a time and the ass cracks are so large they’s make a plumber proud. All the while pontificating about things they know nothing about. Yup, just another liberal gathering.
There’s a 12″ talking Ann Coulter doll that’s for sale in all sorts of places, including both right- and left-wing blog sites. Apparently the lefties think it’s a funny satire and the righties give ’em to their daughters to teach them how a real lady is supposed to talk.
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” … called bullshit on your tactic of having ‘untouchable’ kooks out there” – Commentby Mark The Redneck Kennedy— 6/13/06@ 8:25 pm
So it’s okay now if we call bullshit on your untouchable kooks? This one, for example? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:North.jpg How about this one? http://www.nndb.com/people/923/000023854/ Or this one? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I.....mbaugh.jpg Or the mother (father?) of all untouchable rightwing kooks? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wi.....n_1981.jpg
It seems a pretty good argument for riding the bus that Mark the Redneck won’t be riding with you. Probably don’t have to worry about him showing up at DL either, because after tooling around all day in his Suburban he can’t afford to buy any booze.
“No wonder the military hates you.”
As the Iraq Veterans running as Democrats for Congress, we must say that the Republicans are as respected as Bin Laden among the troops.
Q: What does a soldier say when he steps in camel shit?
A: Someone forgot to pick up their Republican again!
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Are you having another seizure, klake? Should I call 9-1-1?
As the Iraq Veterans running as Democrats for Congress, we must say that the Republicans are as respected as Bin Laden among the troops.
Commentby Veterans Running For Congress— 6/13/06@ 8:44 pm
Running for congress because they cant take the heat of warfare….hmmmm. That sound familiar.
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You aren’t having such a good week yourself, Redneck. The only people who can spend as much time on HA as you do are the unemployed. Not to mention FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS gone, out the window, poooof! for alimony and child support.
HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR
Reddick, poor sap, can’t even pay a $100 gambling debt. Lucky for him he lost that bet to Goldy instead of the local Mafia bookie, or he’d be swimming in the Strait of Juan de Fuca wearing cement flippers.
“Running for congress because they cant take the heat of warfare….hmmmm. That sound familiar.”
Commentby RUFUS— 6/13/06@ 8:46 pm
Ah, Another wingnut showing his support for the honored troops!
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I think Reddick and Coulter should get married. They’re perfect for each other. They’re both white Anglo male queers.
Laura Bush killed a guy.
The Bush twins are whores.
George Bush is a coward.
That about says it all!
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If Mark the Red-Nosed Reddick is on the road, DUI would be a concern.
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People are supposed to take a scooper and plastic bag with them whenever they walk their Republican. It’s a Baghdad city ordinance.
Let’s check on sillyguy again and see if he’s gotten that thing airborne yet:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I.....hopter.JPG
Nope. But there’s still hope — another hurricane is coming.
Of course I support the troops. I vote republican in liberal King county. Something a lot of troops stationed here dont get to do. It is my way of paying tribute to them.
Man, I LOVE that photo!!! It’s so … so … SILLY … looking.
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“I vote republican in liberal King county. Something a lot of troops stationed here dont get to do. It is my way of paying tribute to them.” Commentby RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy— 6/13/06@ 8:55 pm
DUFUS never tires of posting this lie; and I never tire of calling BULLSHIT on it.
FACT: Over 14,000 military/overseas ballots were counted in King County.
FACT: Only 16 military/overseas ballots were disqualified for arriving too late in King County.
Hey Dufus! Click here to see what awaits you, if you renounce war and Republicanism, and become an anti-war protester:
http://www.barewitness.org/photoalbum/Iwontgo.htm
D’RAT “women”
Republican women
DUFUS never tires of posting this lie; and I never tire of calling BULLSHIT on it.
FACT: Over 14,000 military/overseas ballots were counted in King County.
FACT: Only 16 military/overseas ballots were disqualified for arriving too late in King County.
Commentby Roger Rabbit— 6/13/06@ 8:59 pm
Fact- Rabbit source is the KCRE. Which means everything else is BULLSHIT.
Just because you call bullshit fact doesn’t make it fact. It is still bullshit. Nuff said.
I wonder why we have heard any polls regarding Bush? Are the MSM running out of democrats to poll? I guess they will have to dip into the pool of liberal illegal voters now. Hehe
Really, RUFUS, quit voting against us. We now you hate us, but just sit this one out. We need your “support” like we need another IED under our underarmoured Humvees.
Just sit back, relax, and we will get in touch with assholes like you when we get back.
Geez, you CONS have had a bad run last week or so…
1) Zarqawi killed. (Have to invent a new Boogeyman)
2) Dean Logan got a better job.
3) Rove ratted out Cheney to save his ass.
Commentby Mark\’s Brother What Survived— 6/13/06@ 8:38 pm
Well I know the dems Fitzmas in July is ruined. hehe
Roger Rabbit is not attending DL tonight. He’s having too much fun posting on HA.
RUFUS! Ixney on the SMMAY!
We got your back… we are owned by the defense contractors and global corporations… but you keep up attracting attention to us and more people will realize that we are nothing but mouthpieces for the Project for a New American Century!
Sure we report polls you don’t like, but we can’t get away with lying about everything! And Bush doesn;t matter, we are just providing more room for Republicans to distance themselves from Bush and with the help of our voting machines ensure a continued rule by our puppets in congress.
Stop fucking up the plan!
Man I LOVE that picture of sillyguy with his flying machine! :D :D :D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I.....hopter.JPG
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“Just because you call bullshit fact doesn’t make it fact. It is still bullshit.” Commentby RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy— 6/13/06@ 9:05 pm
So true, Dufus. So very true. This one goes into my “Memorable Troll Quotes” folder!
Just sit back, relax, and we will get in touch with assholes like you when we get back.
Commentby The Military— 6/13/06@ 9:11 pm
Wow a lefty in the Military and he wants to get a hold of me when they get out. See ya in three months. Be carefull shooting yourself in the ass for that last purple heart. Hehe
Well, let’s see, what’ve we got so far?
“Ummm…. if the President says it… it’s not a ‘leak’. A ‘leak’ is disclosing information without authorization. Since the President is the boss, it is by definition not a leak since he can authorize whatever the fuck he wants. That’s how things work when you’re boss.” Commentby Mark The Redneck— 4/10/06@ 3:06 pm
“The wealthy get to live better because they make the world a better place.” Commentby Mark The Redneck Kennedy— 6/13/06@ 6:05 pm
“Just because you call bullshit fact doesn’t make it fact. It is still bullshit.” Commentby RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy— 6/13/06@ 9:05 pm
“Our ‘oil’ problem has been created by lawmakers for the last 40 years in both parties.” Commentby sgmmac— 5/1/06@ 9:22 am
” Be carefull shooting yourself in the ass for that last purple heart. Hehe”
Ah Yes, The Soidiers in Iraq will have a lot to talk to you about, RUFUS. We can feel your Republican support from here.
Ah Yes, The Soidiers in Iraq will have a lot to talk to you about, RUFUS. We can feel your Republican support from here.
Commentby The Military— 6/13/06@ 9:23 pm
A word of advice. Don’t release your military medical records if you run for politics. Follow the lead of the dozen others who were before you. That’s all soldier.
“As the Iraq Veterans running as Democrats for Congress, we must say that the Republicans are as respected as Bin Laden among the troops.
Commentby Veterans Running For Congress— 6/13/06@ 8:44 pm”
Democrats running away is more like it. Lt Watada, a card carrying Democrat proves the point.
They can run under the banner “Cowards for Congress”
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What this. Oh I get it. Rabbit is pissed off at MTR’s list so he is trying to make his own. Hehehehee. Oooooh that hurts hahahaha rabbit. Hahahahaaha stop your killing me…..hehahahahaha
Yes, Yes, RUFUS and pbj1… show your Republican support for the soldiers!!!
More, people need to see this Republican support of the troops!
We will remember, especially those who have purple hearts.
What is wrong with these Republicans! I thought they were pro business? This Bush Market is killing me and my cats!
The stock market has not gained a penny in 5 years!!
Bush is running America as well as he did every company he bankrupted.
@70: But look on the bright side, America is still afloat, and foreigners are still eager to buy our T-bills and other financial assets to the tune of billions of dollars per year.
This is OK as long as our economy is growing faster than their buying, otherwise, the cat is out of the bag.
The stock market has not gained a penny in 5 years!!
Bush is running America as well as he did every company he bankrupted.
Commentby Heddy Greene— 6/13/06@ 9:52 pm
That your problem if you are to stupid to invest in oil stocks. You deserve to lose your moeny.
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Not a problem for Bush. He doesn’t have any military medical records. He didn’t show up for his flight physical. So they grounded him, and $1 million of fighter pilot training went down the drain.
@ 28: Geez, you guys have had a bad run last week or so…
Talk to me in November, Vagina Lips. Otherwise, you are just blowing shit as usual–moron.
We will remember, especially those who have purple hearts.
Commentby The Military— 6/13/06@ 9:45 pm
Yeah, yeah. Just remind them if they recieved their ballot last election and 70% will be back in the repub corner in no time. Asking the military to vote donk is like asking a welfare mamma to vote repub. It just aint gonna happen. Nuff said.
I’m surprised anyone still remembers Heddy Green.
Roger Rabbit is not attending DL tonight. He’s having too much fun posting on HA.
And keep up the good work, Roger!!!!
“I’ve learned that great wealth isn’t nearly as good as average sex.” – Ted Turner
Maybe that’s why he divorced Jane Fonda.
Anybody hear the one about “republicans are scum”?
Oh. You heard it already.
Julius Rosenwald, one-time Sears CEO, is a lot more quotable than Reddick or Dufus ever will be:
“I could never understand the popular belief that because a man makes a lot of money, he has a lot of brains. Some very wealthy men who have made huge fortunes have been among the most stupid people I have ever known.”
But this one is for the ages:
“If you can’t be a good example, then you’ll just have to be a horrible warning.” – Catherine Aird
Hmmm, let’s see, who do we know that fits to a “t”?
Stuuuufus @ 72 above: “That your problem if you are to stupid to invest in oil stocks. You deserve to lose your moeny.”
Anybody can pick out a winner ex post, you dumb fuck. If everybody had sold everything to buy oil stock two years ago, the smart money would have been buying everything else.
What can I say? If I wanted to suffocate somebody, I’d have them read your comments, stuuuuufus. They take one’s breath away with their ignorance and stupidity.
Fucking gasbag.
ROGER RABBIT “HORRIBLE WARNING” LIST
Nominations are now being accepted from the following candidate list:
[ ] 1. George W. Bush
[ ] 2. Karl Rove
[ ] 3. John Craig Herman
[ ] 4. Mark the Welsher
[ ] 5. Rufus the Dufus
HEY TROLLS! I see that John Carlson is teaming up with Gary Locke to promote the REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION TAX PACKAGE. I think we’re now only one step away from Carlson doing shows on Rossi’s failed attempt to steal the election.
Commentby Roger Rabbit— 6/13/06@ 8:28 pm
Yeah, I saw that one, too, Roger. Betcha’ he’s doin’ it for the money. The sleazy shit.
Look, the top 200 weathiest families in this state, with all their Bush tax breaks and fancy lawyers, could pay for the R-Tid without missing a bond payment. That’s the real crime here.
It came out today that Karl Rove lied about being in college to avoid having to go to Nam. Yet ANOTHER republican chickenshit chickenhawk!
@ 76 “I’m surprised anyone still remembers Heddy Green.”
I was just featured on the History Channel. And you wippery snappers have a lot to learn about good stock markets.
OIL STOCKS!? You think one sector will save the country from a crash? Or a market that hasn’t moved in 5 years?
No wonder they call you DUFUS!
If I had stock in RUFUS’s brain… I would SELL!
Old money is more respectable than new money. Isn’t that what they say?
After spending all their money on interestpayments that go to the already rich the Republican wannabe millionaires cast about for villains who are preventing THEM from being millionnaires , too. Do they find the culprits in banks , credit cardf companies and big oil?
Not on your life! They find them in the ghetto with kids in underfunded pre-school programs. What chumps and losers these wannabe Republican millionnaires are! They want to be like Don LePre with his Rolls Royce and Cheesy Bimbo.
That’s their ultimate dream.
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Think the military is rock-solid behind Bush? Read this article. http://www.washingtonmonthly.c.....wells.html
Excerpts:
“‘I’m a strong Republican, but the Republicans have been the problem; we’ve been treated like second-class citizens,’ a retired Vietnam Marine helicopter gunnery sergeant named Don Beaver told me in North Carolina.
“Elsie P. Smith, the town’s Republican mayor, says: ‘There’s a few people who have become very hostile [towards the Bush administration] … the longer the war goes on, the more of that subtle shift you’re going to see.’
“This subtle distancing of Republicans from Bush has begun to show up, locally and nationally, even among those conservative politicians who spent this administration’s first two years hugging the president as if their political future depended solely on the strength of their grip. …
“A similar mood is emerging in small, patriotic towns around the country. According to a study conducted in mid-October by Stars and Stripes, half of American soldiers in-country say their units have low morale, that they were insufficiently trained, and that they won’t reenlist. …
“Charles Carter, a retired Naval chief petty officer, told Knight Ridder: ‘I will vote non-Republican in a heartbeat if it continues as is.’ Carter’s opinion is representative. While the GOP hasn’t lost the military vote, if present trends continue, it could see substantial defections in one of its core constituencies. …
“A reassignment of less than two-hundredths of 1 percent in the military vote to the Democrats from the Republicans in Florida in 2000 would have moved that state to the Democratic column, and a similar shift of less than 5 percent in the veteran vote alone would have given Arkansas, Nevada, and New Hampshire’s electoral votes to Gore ….”
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Yeah, but I never tire of hearing that one!
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I don’t get History Channel. I’m too cheap to let the cable crooks take my hard-earned money.
Stefan’s diatribe on Goldy’s radio show was ornery and mean-spirited even for Stefan. It simply drips with jealousy.
Cowards like me and left turd are “running” alright. Running away like little girlie men. When is the next democrat hate america gathering being held? Will all of us Democrats call some more Marines guilty without any evidence and demand they be shot while advocating the release of prisoners at Guantanamo?
Yours truly comrades,
Lt Erin “The Cowad” Watada – Loyal to Democrat principles of destroying America through any means possible.
500k for Redneck’s ex old lady? No wonder he welshes on bets.
WHAT’S THE MATTER REDNECK? YOU MADE A “BAD CHOICE”?
84 – Mark the bet welshing redneck gets my top vote followed very closely by DOOFUS.
“Cowards like me and MTR are “pissing our pants” alright. Pissing our pants like little girlie men.
Commentby RUFUS— 6/13/06@ 10:42 pm
We know RUFUS, we know.
Hey all you Democrat America hater traitors, see what a real man does when he takes the country to war:
Bush Makes Surprise Visit to Iraq
Tuesday, June 13, 2006
FoxNews
BAGHDAD, Iraq — In a whirlwind trip that came as a surprise to all but about a half-dozen presidential aides, President Bush went to Iraq Tuesday for a face to face visit with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, in which he pledged continuing U.S. support for the emerging democracy.
Unlike cowardly Democrat presidents who were too cowardly to visit the war zone, Bush shows he is more man than any America hater traitor Democrat rat could ever hope to be.
Cowardly Clinton sent people to bomb kosovo. Did the coward ever visit Kosovo during the war? Nope. He was to busy chasing skirts and running away like he ran during the Vietnam War.
What Roger Rabid really means is I can’t get cable as I don’t pay my bills. Therefore all he can comment upon is “Night Lie.”
Right Roger, Stefan really relishes Goldy’s non-life: No job having, no wife having, sharing daughter with some other Guy Daddy, etc.
Righhhhht.
Too late for you to get a life Roger, but let up on those who already do.
Happy Birthday when it comes, since you’ll be lonely then, and I and everyone else will be busy.
I think that Mayor Nickels and the Seattle City Council should take full advantage of Judge Mary Roberts ruling striking down Initiative 747 and immediately raise property taxes in the City of Seattle by 27.3% (the compounded difference between 1% annually and 6% annually over the last five years) without a vote of the people.
Worthwhile government projects that can be funded by the City of Seattle property tax increase:
1. Tunnel to replace Alaskan Way Viaduct — i.e. the $2 to 3 billion or more of additional funding that is needed to finish the project beyond what the state allocated
2. Extend Sound Transit light rail from downtown Seattle-ish to Northgate (all of this is within the City of Seattle) — $1 billion or more
3. Build a state-of-the-art monorail system all throughout the City of Seattle ($2 billion for the original project, but fund it for $4 billion so a more extensive system can be built)
4. Replace the Evergreen Point Floating Bridge (i.e. the $500 million or more that isn’t being covered by state funding)
5. Build a brand new, practically rent-free, arena for the Seattle Sonics (at least $200 million)
Bush a real man? PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE!
He spent a few hours in one of the most heavily guarded bunkers in the universe after forcing the REAL men to clear the area and put their lives at risk so he could do a photo opp.
This draft dodging, AWOL coward is about as much real man as Janet S. Oooops – well that might not be the best analogy.
Watada is a card carrying republican. Nuff said.
Looks like the BIAW’s new Butt-Boy has the ethics you’d expect of a republican.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....rt14m.html
We need to mobilize BIG time against this basssstarrrd!
104 – The wingers here at HA.org and (un)SP derive the meaning of life from brown-nosing the BIAW.
So, I’m late to respond to Mark the Redneck. That’s because after making my post, I left to go to a business dinner, where we finalized the details of over a billion dollars in sales between an Asian company and a local manufacturer. So that’s why MTR’s message, which I just saw this morning, is even more hillarious:
“The wealthy get to live better because they make the world a better place.”
Some do, most don’t. Most are just lucky, but they don’t want to admit it. They cover themselves by claiming that they are smarter, work harder, etc., but fail to recognize that there are lots more people who are smarter than them and work harder than them who aren’t quite so lucky. Obviously, MTR is in this catagory. As for me, I do fine, thank you, and I give more than 10% of my earnings to charity every month, and devote at least 10% in time – including serving at a local meals program for the homeless. What did you this week to make the world a better place?
“That’s how they got wealthy; by producing something that people want and are willing to pay for.”
Again, some do, other’s don’t. Bill Gates and Microsoft did very well, but the actual “producers” of their programs didn’t do so well. I think the DOS designer got $10,000 for his work on the program, which Bill gates then flipped to IBM (keeping the rights to re-sell for himself). And the Xerox designers of the Mac/Windows interface (co-opted by Apple, then Microsoft) just got their regular salaries. The college professor who designed the computer spreadsheet never received a penny off his invention, although Lotus, Apple, and then Microsoft have made a bundle off it. I don’t have anything against Bill Gates, but it’s an example of how you cannot claim that only the rich are the “producers”.
“Why the fuck should I be forced to sit in traffic while shit like you impede my progress? My time is worth more than yours. Sit there and stew in the mess you made of your life. I’ve got things to do…”
Gee, I made a ton of money for my employer yesterday, and even more for the local economy over the next five years. Maybe shit like you should pull over and wait for me to pass?????
I could pay for tolls if I wanted too, and I bet my employer would pay for them if I asked. But I won’t, because I don’t think its a good idea to allow a favored few to get special benefits on the public highways, only because they have more money. Raise the money and fix the whole problem, don’t just fix it for a few. I’m willing to pay my fair share.
I forgot to add in response to MTR’s rather lunatic comments:
“The wealthy get to live better because they make the world a better place. That’s how they got wealthy; by producing something that people want and are willing to pay for. ”
So, could you please explain to me, how Paris Hilton makes the world a better place? And what, other than a sex tape, has she produced? (No, I don’t count TV shows which show how dumb, lazy, spoiled, and self-centered she is “producing” anything of value. Sometimes I slow down to look at a car wreck, but that doesn’t mean its a good thing.)
re 100: Right!!! Richard Pope!!! And don’t give even one single penney to the tax MOOCHERS in Eastern WA. for their roads. And keep their own property taxes at a low, low rate so they can’t even maintain what they have.
How ’bout them apples, Richard Pope?
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I pay all my bills on time and have a credit rating that makes the Republican-run U.S. government look like a trailer park deadbeat. Come to think of it … the GOP-run government IS a trailer park deadbeat! Check out today’s inflation numbers.
We’re running about 6% to 7% inflation, according to the official government numbers. They try to make it look better by ignoring energy and food costs. So, okay, inflation is a little better if you don’t drive or eat. Even the higher figure is as phony as a three-dollar bill. Gas prices are up nearly 70% since January. In Seattle, housing prices are going up about 6% or 7% a month. We are well on the way toward a 2001 dollar (when Bush took office) being worth a dime. This is devastating to senior citizens living on fixed pensions and minimum wage workers.
I see in today’s news that Congress is getting a $3,300 COLA. That amounts to about 1/3 of the annual earnings of workers earning the federal minimum wage of $5.15 an hour. They haven’t received an increase since the early 1990s, and last year the CHEAP LABOR CONSERVATIVES in Congress refused to raise the minimum wage by even one fucking penny. SHAME on those cheap bastards. I don’t need to tell you who they are — Republicans.
That’s one of roughly a million reasons why voters need to throw these greedy, grasping, Republican millionaires out of Congress and replace them with decent, compassionate Democratic millionaires.
re 107: The thing about the rich being “strong” and “productive” may work in a case like Jimmy Carter ( who earned his wealth ) , but all you need to do is look at “W” attempting to credibly hold a simple hammer to realize that these guys can’t do anything. They couln’t even change a tire. And withoout the wealth that they INHERITED they couldn’t pay someone to do their dirty work.
No, the truly dangerous people are not the people who inherited wealth , but the Republican millionnaire wannabes who do all their legwork for them.
They pay huge prices, interest, fuel prices and everything and it all goes to the rich. Then they look in theghetto at some poor toddler in an underfunded Head Start Program for a BOGEYMAN to explain why they are not millionnaires.
Didn’t Jimmy Carter make his fortune farming peanuts? And isn’t peanut farming a highly regulated enterprise done only with the permission of the govt? That means that it is a govt controlled monopoly. Only an idiot wouldn’t make money, because the game is rigged in the first place.
Kind of like Al Gore and his oil profits courtesy of Armand Hammer.
Oh, yeah, then there is the Kennedy family who got rich of prohibition.
Wingnuts have taken to bragging about the jobs now being created by the “Bush economy.” Let’s put this in perspective. The economy suffered an absolute loss of 2.2 million jobs in Bush’s first three years, disregarding the increase in the workforce over that period. Although the economy has been adding jobs since early 2005, it needs 156,000 new jobs a month to accomodate workforce growth, in other words that’s what is needed to keep the unemployment rate from rising, and job growth is falling well short of that number in most months. So, the “Bush economy” is still growing unemployment instead of growing prosperity.
But wait. Bush’s deficit spending has, predictably and inevitably, created raging inflation that is pushing down real wages, especially at the minimum wage level.
The $5.15 federal minimum wage is now worth, in purchasing power, maybe half (or less) of what it was when enacted. In other words, we now have a $2.50 minimum wage. Needless to say, lowering the minimum wage creates more low-end jobs. Theoretically, the number of jobs the economy creates at a $0.00 wage rate is infinite. But those $2.50 jobs aren’t creating prosperity, they’re creating poverty. They’re also creating higher deficits, because at that wage level, the government instead of employers is providing these workers’ food (food stamps), medical care (Medicaid), and housing (public housing, Section 8, and housing subsidies).
But wait! There’s more! Bush’s immigration policies (i.e., opening the floodgates to an influx of cheap foreign labor) is pushing wages even lower. Poor blacks are now complaining they can no longer compete for day labor jobs against immigrants (many of them illegals) who will work for far less than the legal minimum wage. Have you noticed who is building all those ultra-expensive new homes and condos going up all over Seattle? About 90% of the laborers on those construction sites are non-white, non-English speaking, and lord knows what the contractors are paying them but I’ll bet they aren’t making $15 an hour or even $8 an hour or even necessarily our state’s legal minimum wage. Of course this is taking jobs and income away from American construction workers who used to make a middle class living.
This kind of job creation isn’t prosperity, it’s downsizing the standard of living of the average American, at the same time it’s downsizing the job market itself. There are fewer jobs for Americans, at lower pay, with less benefits, and no job security. This sucks! Why in hell would ANYONE except the filthy rich (and morally filthy) capitalists whose personal fortunes are growing exponentially VOTE for the assholes responsible for the policies that produce this economic result? When are the trailer park idiots shooting themselves in their feet going to wake up and realize they’re cutting their own throats by voting Republican? (Don’t answer that; these damn fools are unteachable, and the answer is “never.”)
Speaking of morally filthy capitalists, another news item today is that pension funds are now suing corporations en masse for backdating executive stock options. It works like this. Let’s say a company’s stock price is $20 when John Doe comes on board, so his captive board gives him a million options. In theory, if the stock goes up to $30 under his leadership, he makes $10 million. But wait! The cheating motherfucking backdates his options to when the stock price was $10! He turns out to be a crappy CEO and the stock goes down to $15. John Doe gets fired, but walks away with $5 million even before the friendly board starts stuffing the shareholders’ money into his golden parachute. This is stealing, folks. STEALING. And it’s happening on a massive scale.
The pension funds are pissed. They’ve filed lawsuits against at least 40 companies, and there’s likely to be hundreds more. The lawyers are going to clean up. This scandal is going to generate billions, if not tens of billions, in legal fees. I think maybe I should go job hunting.
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I like our crooks better than your crooks.
Posts 109, 110, and 112 were posted by Roger Rabbit. When Mrs. Rabbit posts on HorsesAss under a different screen name, and I subsequently get my turn on the computer, Goldy’s software defaults back to the last screen name used. This happens EVERY time Mrs. Rabbit posts on HA. No matter. Mrs. Rabbit is just as liberal as I am, so who cares if Roger posted it, or Roger’s supervisor posted it. Same dif, six of one, half a dozen of the other. Eat shit, righty traitors. Both of us are out to get you.
113 is Roger Rabbit too.
Bush has been reduced to bragging about creating $2.50 an hour jobs.
And many of those jobs are in Iraq. Let’s see, a dogface Army PFC makes, what, $17,000 a year? He’s on duty 24-7. So he’s making about $1 an hour to get shot at. The ultimate cheap labor.
Janet S Said:
“Didn’t Jimmy Carter make his fortune farming peanuts? And isn’t peanut farming a highly regulated enterprise done only with the permission of the govt? That means that it is a govt controlled monopoly. Only an idiot wouldn’t make money, because the game is rigged in the first place”
No, you are thinking of Senator George Prescott Bush and (ex) President George H. W. Bush. Prescott Bush made his fortune using east-coast money to buy up oil (mineral) rights in Texas during the Depression when even oil prices hit bottom and everyone was broke. Later, as part of the anti-depression programs of the Roosevelt administration, the price of gasoline was artificially set higher than the market price by the federal government in order to fight against “deflation”. The policy encouraged exploration and production in the short run, but had bad long-term consequences we are feeling even today, and it remained in place far too long (into the 1970’s).
But more importantly, the oil subsidy served as a cover where future President George H. W. Bush could “manage” his father’s firm, run it for a few years in an industry where you would have to be a complete dufus to lose money, and then take credit as being a “businessman” when he ran for office.
They tried to do it again with George W. Bush – use his father’s money and political backing to set him up in the oil business. But the oil business in the 1970’s and 1980’s wasn’t the same as it was in the 1940’s and 1950’s. With prices fluctuating, you had to be bright and actually be a pretty good businessman to avoid going broke. George W. Bush was neither. He managed two oil rights companies which were going downhill fast, but each time he was saved when he was bought out by a cabal of investors (at far above a fair market price for the troubled company). The investors were not buying the companies so much as they were hoping to buy favor with the father, who by then was a big shot in the Republican party and running for President.
After being bought out of the oil business the last time, Bush was put forward as the front man for the consortium buying the Texas Rangers. When that baseball team was sold, he did make a fair amount of money. What is questionable is where he got the money for his initial investments in the first place. The money he made off the oil industry was clearly insufficient to buy a fraction of his interest in the team, so it appears that the other investors gave him an unequal share of the team so he would appear to be the “majority owner”.
From that, he used his resume as a “Texas Businessman”, and his father’s political connections, to win the governer’s race in Texas, and after that he became President.
Now, are calling Carter’s reliance on agriculture programs which every farmer is entitled to rely upon, and which is the only thing currently keeping family farms in existence? If so, then perhaps you should advertise in Eastern Washington that the Republicans intend to eliminate those benefits? Yea, I didn’t think so. Instead, the Republicans will quietly make the benefits available only to large agribusinesses, while reducing benefits to the family farm until they don’t exist anymore. They just won’t admit that’s what they are doing, except when they don’t think their comments will be repeated.
Hillary clinton was booed at Take Back America when she suggested Dems ought to support the troops.
112: It is true that the immigrants are taking the labor positions, and this is having the effect of competing with other minorities for the same positions. It has happened over and over again – first when the Irish arrived in the U.S., then when the Italians arrived, then the eastern Eurpeans, then the Asians, and now the Latinos. Unfortunately for the blacks (excuse me – African-Americans), it seems that they are the ones that keep getting pushed out. I’d be pissed too. But for them the best answer is to continue to push for upward mobility. When you are at the bottom rung of the ladder, there is nowhere to go but to be pushed off the ladder completely.
In my younger days I have held quite a variety of jobs (some at the same time): lifeguard, swim instructor, construction & landscape laborer, short-order cook, bartender, waiter, retail clerk, mainframe computer operator, and courier, all before getting my undergraduate degree. I always felt that if push came to shove, and the economy tanked, I could always support my family (on a subsistance level) using one of those occupations.
But a couple of years ago, my teenage son attempted to get his first summer job on his own (he didn’t want me to help). After many discouraging forays in job searches, I told him that perhaps he was setting his sights to high, perhaps he should just get a job at the local MacDonald’s for the summer – anything so he could get that “first job” on his resume. “But Dad”, he said, “I’ve tried. They told me I had to be fluent in Spanish so I could communicate with the other workers there”. That’s when I started to pay attention, and realized how few entry-level jobs are NOT being staffed by rather recent immigrants. It’s good for them, but I worry about the effect it has on our teenagers, when traditional summer or part-time entry level jobs are no longer available to them. (Yes, my son did eventually find a good job working in a bookstore, and he did it on his own, but it took a lot longer than we expected).
Before anyone claims I am racist, I should point out that my wife’s step-mother is Hispanic (from California, not Mexico, she proudly points out that her family was in California “before the Anglos were here”). My wife’s mother was Scottish/Samoan, and her father was Polish. All of her cousins are mixed-race in some form or another, including a few of us anglos, a good representation of blacks, and also hispanics, Japanese, Koreans, Chinese, Vietnamese, and a few others in the mix. I would be in bad shape if I was prejudiced.
But the family reunions are a blast – the whole family has great cooks, and when everybody brings food, its the best buffet on the planet. I also get a kick out of the people who think I’m lying to them when they ask what kind of group it is, and I tell them its a family reunion.
re 111: “Highly regulated and done only with government permission.” Janet S, you mean like the oil industry, the auto industry, the steel industry, the carpet cleaning industry,the textile industry, the aerospace industry — stuff like that. Halliburton NO BID CONTRACTS. GOVERNMENT SANCTIONED BONING OF THE GENERAL POPULATION THROUGH GOVERNMENT SANCTIONED GAS PRICE GOUGING.
You worthless , divisive , un- American CREEP, jANET s!
I have always been a staunch Republican. I have even managed to ignore the obvious betrayals of the Neocons to the conservative Republican values of fiscal responsibility and restraint in international affairs.
But this lady in the “Dates for Democrats” blogads is making me feel kind of funny. There she is with her basketball, ponytail, winning smile and pert …. Nothing at all like the frumpish bagladies in the Republican party.
Well, I am thinking that perhaps I cannot forgive the neocons anymore!
I am voting Democratic this year!
Does anyone know how I can get in touch with that lovely lass?
Commentby I feel funny— 6/13/06@ 8:18 pm
Let me present Maureen Dowd! You can go for it.