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Drinking Liberally

by Goldy — Tuesday, 12/27/05, 12:09 pm

Settled into those post-Christmukkah, pre-New Years doldrums? The Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally meets tonight (and every Tuesday), 8PM at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E.

I’ll bring a menorah, we’ll all say the barucha, and then we’ll unwrap a pitcher of Manny’s.

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  1. Libertarian spews:

    Tuesday, 12/27/05 at 12:23 pm

    Let’s start a rumor that Ann coulter is going to show up.

  2. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 12/27/05 at 12:39 pm

    Roger Rabbit hardly ever attends DL due to traffic problems caused by crowds of admiring fans, papparazzi, and process servers. It’s safe to say, though, that Ann Coulter and her retinue won’t be there adding to the congestion. She’s a chickenshit who hides out in her New York apartment and won’t even walk to the corner deli because she’s afraid of being assassinated. There’s about as much chance she’ll show up at DL to arrest Roger Rabbit for being a Democrat, as there is of prr showing up, or Mark the Redneck paying his gambling debts!

  3. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 12/27/05 at 12:40 pm

    Mr.* Coulter’s fears of being assassinated are overblown. He’s* no John Lennon.

    * Have you noticed his adam’s apple?

  4. Belltowner spews:

    Tuesday, 12/27/05 at 12:43 pm

    Belltowner will read aloud from The International Jew by Henry FordThe Da Vinci Code by Dan Brown.

  5. Belltowner spews:

    Tuesday, 12/27/05 at 1:02 pm

    BTW, I googled “The Int’l Jew”, and you can STILL BUY IT. That’s sort of sad. I wonder if Amazon has it. Yikes…

  6. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 12/27/05 at 1:05 pm

    I see prr is back, and stinking up the litter box again, after hiding from a 9 1/2-lb. bunny for several weeks.

  7. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 12/27/05 at 1:06 pm

    Oh, did I forget to mention? — prr is a bootlicking Nazi, and a fascist pig.

  8. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 12/27/05 at 1:06 pm

    A coward, too.

  9. kap0w spews:

    Tuesday, 12/27/05 at 1:18 pm

    It’s nice to see the DL invitation posted a little earlier. I almost always see them Wednesday morning. It’s not that it would really be that hard to remember, but c’mon… I’m a Jewish Seattle Progressive… I must have an IQ of what? like 10?

  10. prr spews:

    Tuesday, 12/27/05 at 1:20 pm

    Ahh, Rabbit,

    I’ve been reading some of your backlogs todays and noticed that you seeemed to have been glued to this board overv the past couple weeks. Great evidence of what a lonely loser you actually are. Apparently no-one saw fit to include your pathetic bitter ass in their holiday plans.

  11. Mark The Redneck spews:

    Tuesday, 12/27/05 at 2:28 pm

    Story today that natural gas prices have fallen 23% in the past week. Tell me moonbats, is that because of Senator Windfalls’s awesome political power to intimidate oil companies, or is there some other mechanism at work??

  12. Belltowner spews:

    Tuesday, 12/27/05 at 2:31 pm

    @ 12

    Um, that would be free markets.

  13. Mark The Redneck spews:

    Tuesday, 12/27/05 at 2:33 pm

    Belltown – Really? You mean supply and demand? That whole macro-economic thing? Nah…

  14. Mark The Redneck spews:

    Tuesday, 12/27/05 at 2:45 pm

    PI is running a big sob series on the plight of the poor. Today’s installment is about old ladies having to work. I read some of the other articles and some common factors jump out:

    1) Most of them have little education.
    2) Most of them have few marketable skills.
    3) Many of them have drug and booze problems, either now or in the past.
    4) Many of them have lots of kids.
    5) Most of them never gave a thought to saving for their futures.
    6) Many of them admit to having lived beyond their means for most of their lives.

    Many of you moonbats like to attack me for saying that economic poverty is nearly always preceded by poverty of character. Yet, in the PI series, it’s on parade for all to see.

    My question is this: Is there ever a point where people should take responsibility for their lives, to make investments in themselves, to plan for the future, and to make good choices? Or, is it always the responsibility of the Producers to pay for the choices of the bad choice crowd no matter how stupid they have been?

  15. Voter Advocate spews:

    Tuesday, 12/27/05 at 3:00 pm

    The Producers? Are you speaking of Matthew Broderick and Nathan Lane?

  16. RonK, Seattle spews:

    Tuesday, 12/27/05 at 3:08 pm

    MTR’s poverty of character saddens me. You’d hope a little grace might have found him, especially at this time of year.

  17. Belltowner spews:

    Tuesday, 12/27/05 at 3:08 pm

    Blessed is he that considereth the poor: the Lord will deliver him in time of trouble.
    -Psalms (ch. XLI, v. 1)

  18. fire_one spews:

    Tuesday, 12/27/05 at 3:08 pm

    VA – That was a good one! I’ve been needing a good laugh! Thanks!

  19. Commander Ogg spews:

    Tuesday, 12/27/05 at 3:10 pm

    MTR @ 11, any adjustment in energy prices only occur because those who own production have decided to increase or decrease supply.

    Massachusetts latest to take aim at Sempra.

    Fears gas crisis is scam to raise prices

    Seniors Freeze While Traders Reap Hot Bonuses

    John Q Public is being ripped off royally. The only reason there might be any relief from high energy prices is because members majority political party up for reelection next year have told the Corporate bosses to cool it, at least for now.

  20. Belltowner spews:

    Tuesday, 12/27/05 at 3:15 pm

    `If one of your countrymen becomes poor and is unable to support himself, help him as you would an alien or a temporary resident, so he can continue to live among you. Do not take interest of any kind from him, but fear your God, so that your countryman may continue to live among you. You must not lend him money at interest or sell him food at a profit.

    -(Leviticus 25:35-37)

    This is my favorite, and I’m not even a big “Leviticus” guy.

  21. Belltowner spews:

    Tuesday, 12/27/05 at 3:27 pm

    @ 20

    Don’t lend the poor money, or sell them food at a profit… So I guess that makes God a SOCIALIST, hmm?

  22. Ronk, Seattle spews:

    Tuesday, 12/27/05 at 3:38 pm

    VA @ 15 — Yes, the responsibiity of the Producers is to sell 50% of the action to each of three different backers, and then try to make sure the show flops.

    Hmmm.

    Could that be what really happened in the Bush/Cheney transition office?

  23. Mark The Redneck spews:

    Tuesday, 12/27/05 at 3:43 pm

    Ogg- I figured your argument would come up. So in other words, GWB is behind this because he’s a puppet of the oil companies and he did because his ratings are down.

    how many moonbats agree with Ogg?

  24. Sven spews:

    Tuesday, 12/27/05 at 3:44 pm

    15,

    Be fair, it was Gene Wilder and Zero Mostel in the original.

  25. Sven spews:

    Tuesday, 12/27/05 at 3:45 pm

    I’ll come but only if we can sing a christmas carol……

  26. Voter Advocate spews:

    Tuesday, 12/27/05 at 4:03 pm

    I must admit that it is a tall order to be as attached to a blue blankey as Gene Wilder, or to have quite as wild a look in ones eye as Zero Mostel when he says to Bloom “What was that you said? NO, I mean about making a big profit from a flop.”

  27. Dr. E spews:

    Tuesday, 12/27/05 at 4:04 pm

    C’mon righties, if GWB is such a great president, you can sign it:


    The Loyal Citizen’s Contract With the American Government:

    “I (the undersigned) believe President George W. Bush when he says that the United States of America is fighting a ‘new kind of enemy’ that requires ‘new thinking’ about how to wage war. Therefore, as a loyal citizen of President Bush’s United States, my signature below indicates my agreement to the following:

    “1. I believe wholeheartedly in the Patriot Act as initially passed by Congress in 2001, as well as the provisions of the Domestic Security Enhancement Act. Therefore, I grant the FBI access to:

    “a. my library records, so it may determine if I am reading material that might designate me an enemy of the nation;

    “b. my financial records, including credit reports, so it may determine if I am contributing monetarily to any governmentally proscribed activities or organizations;

    “c. my medical records, so it may determine if my prescriptions, injuries, or other conditions are indicative of terrorist activity on my part;

    “d. any and all other personal records including, but not limited to, my store purchases, my school records, my web browsing history, and anything else determined as a ‘tangible thing’ necessary to engage in a secret investigation of me.

    “I agree that I do not need to be notified if my records have come under scrutiny by the FBI, and, furthermore, I agree that no warrant is needed for the FBI to engage in this examination of my personal records. Additionally, I agree that the FBI should be allowed to monitor any groups it believes may be linked to what it determines to be terrorist activity.

    “2. I believe that the President of the United States has the power to mitigate or set aside any and all laws passed by the Congress and that he has such power granted to him by his status as Commander-in-Chief in the Constitution as well as the 2001 Authorization of Military Force, passed by the Congress, which states that the President can use ‘all necessary and appropriate force’ in prosecution of the war. Therefore, I grant the United States government the following powers:

    “a. that the National Security Agency, under the direction of the President, may tap my phone lines and intercept my e-mail without warrant or FISA oversight;

    “b. that the President may hold me or other detainees without access to the legal system for a period of time determined by the President or his agents;

    “c. that the President may authorize physical force against me or other individual detainees in order to gain intelligence and that he may define whether such physical force may be called ‘torture’:

    “d. that the President may set aside any and all laws he sees as hindering the gathering of intelligence and prevention of terrorist acts for a period as time determined by the President, including, but not limited to, rights to political protest.

    “I agree that the Judicial and Legislative branches should be allowed no oversight of these activities, and that such oversight merely emboldens the terrorists. I also agree that virtually all of these activities may be conducted in complete secrecy and that revelation of these activities amounts to treasonous behavior on the part of those who reveal these activities to the press and the citizenry.

    “3. Finally, this document is my statement that I believe the President of the United States and the entire executive branch, as well as all departments and agencies involved, as well as all of their personnel, will treat these powers I have granted them with utmost respect. I believe that these powers will not be abused, nor will any of the information I have given them permission to examine be misinterpreted. However, should such abuse or misinterpretation occur, I agree that such actions are mere errors and no one should be subject to investigation, arrest, or employment action as a result.

    “My consent freely given,
    “(Your signature)”

  28. marks spews:

    Tuesday, 12/27/05 at 4:06 pm

    Goldy,

    I’d buy you a beer, but it is year-end and I just gave the Red Cross $1,040 (I wonder if I triggered an IRS audit for nuanced cynicism).

    Belltowner @17

    That passage is meant to convey one’s desire to see the poor achieve an elevated status. You know the proverb by Confucius; Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime…

    “Considering” the poor does not translate well into the political tactic of calculating what it will cost you to buy their vote.

  29. marks spews:

    Tuesday, 12/27/05 at 4:07 pm

    Hmmm, a lot of irony in that comment, now that I read it…

  30. Voter Advocate spews:

    Tuesday, 12/27/05 at 4:09 pm

    How ’bout this one?

    Christmas time is here, by golly
    Disapproval would be folly,
    Deck the halls with hunks of holly
    Fill the cups and don’t say “when”,
    Kill the turkeys, ducks and chickens
    Spike the punch, drag out the Dickens
    Even though the prospect sickens
    Brother, here we go again.

    On Christmas Day you can’t get sore
    Your fellow man you must adore,
    There’s time to rob him all the more
    The other three hundred and sixty-a-four,

    Relations, sparing no expense’l
    Give some useless home utensil
    Or a matching pen and pencil,
    Just the thing I need, how nice,
    It doesn’t matter what it is or
    How sincerely felt the sprit
    Sentiment will not endear it
    What’s important is – the price,

    So, let the raucus sleigh bell jingle
    Hail our good old friend Kris Kringle,
    Driving his reindeer across the sky
    Don’t stand underneath when they fly by.

  31. Voter Advocate spews:

    Tuesday, 12/27/05 at 4:12 pm

    Just so the joos don’t feel left out

    I’m spending Hannukah in Santa Monica,
    Wearing sandals, lighting candles by the sea.
    I spent Shavu’ot in East Saint Louis,
    A charming spot, but clearly not the spot for me.

    Those eastern winters, I can’t endure ’em,
    So every year I pack my gear and come out here til Purim.
    Rosh Hashana I spend in Arizona.
    And Yom Kippur way down in Mississipper.

    But in December there’s just one place for me.
    Amid the California flora I’ll be lighting my menorah.
    Like a baby in its cradle I’ll be playing with my dreidel,
    Spending Hannukah, in Santa Monica, by the Sea!

    Here’s to Judas Macabeus, boy if he could only see us,
    Spending Hannukah, in Santa Monica, by the Sea!

  32. Harry Tuttle spews:

    Tuesday, 12/27/05 at 4:22 pm

    MTR @11
    Might have more to do with this:
    http://money.cnn.com/2005/12/2.....suit.reut/
    Prices fall whenever traders become wary that artifical restrictions of supply might be removed.

  33. Voter Advocate spews:

    Tuesday, 12/27/05 at 4:25 pm

    Is that Tuttle or Buttle?

  34. GBS spews:

    Tuesday, 12/27/05 at 4:55 pm

    marks @ 27

    Read your potato chip story. Very funny. Nothing like a bunch of bored sailors is there?

    Happy New Years. You squid!

  35. Mr. Cynical spews:

    Tuesday, 12/27/05 at 5:14 pm

    Belltowner@ 20–
    I enjoy the Book of Leviticus too. Leviticus is the third of the five Old Testament books ascribed to Moses. It is also called “The book of the Law of the Priests” in that it contains very little historical information, but is mostly priestly legislation and the practice of the law among the people. It records God’s instructions, given at Sinai, for worship by His people. See Exodus for information on the dates and origins of this book. Leviticus addresses two groups of people, the priests, and the people as a whole. There are three major themes taht can be identified throughout the book. The first theme can be summarized by the word ‘Holy’. This word is used 87 times in the book, and shows that the true importance of worship is more than just ritual. The second theme is summarized in the word ‘Sacrifice’. This word, or words meaning the same (e.g. offering) is used more than 300 times. The final theme is ‘attonement’, which appears some 49 times. In studying Leviticus, these three key themes help to define how we can better understand our relationship with God, what He has done for us, who He is, and what He expects from us. Happy Bible-studying!

  36. Puddybud spews:

    Tuesday, 12/27/05 at 5:44 pm

    Belltowner@20: That’s called welfare.

  37. Mark The Redneck spews:

    Tuesday, 12/27/05 at 5:48 pm

    Geez, here’s a conundrum for the girlz who run the Feminist Utopia of Washington (FUWA)…

    The anti smoking nuts now want to make smoking an issue in child custody cases. They want to make it a factor in deciding who gets custody and they want to set rules on smoking behavior when the non custodial parent gets visitation.

    So this will be real interesting… will the FUWA girlz allow ANYTHING to interfere with mothers getting custody (and the money that comes with it) or will they look out for “the best interests of the child”?

    My guess is that they’ll show that they don’t really give a shit about kids and will do some great gymnastics in the process to defend mothers’ behaviors. It’ll be real entertaining.

  38. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 12/27/05 at 6:01 pm

    10

    “I’ve been reading some of your backlogs todays and noticed that you seeemed to have been glued to this board overv the past couple weeks. Great evidence of what a lonely loser you actually are. Apparently no-one saw fit to include your pathetic bitter ass in their holiday plans.”

    My Christmas was just fine, thank you! I even found a gift salad under my tree!!! As for the glue, yes, I had a little Super Glue accident here a while back, but the veterinarian assured me over the phone that a new layer of skin and fur will grow in 12 weeks or so, and I’ll eventually shed the outer layer and get unstuck.

  39. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 12/27/05 at 6:02 pm

    11

    “Story today that natural gas prices have fallen 23% in the past week. Tell me moonbats, is that because of Senator Windfalls’s awesome political power to intimidate oil companies, or is there some other mechanism at work??”

    I haven’t been following that story. When did the indictments come down? How many of Cheney’s pals are going to jail this time?

  40. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 12/27/05 at 6:06 pm

    23

    “Ogg- I figured your argument would come up. So in other words, GWB is behind this because he’s a puppet of the oil companies and he did because his ratings are down. how many moonbats agree with Ogg?”

    I don’t know about humans, but any rabbit with common sense would figure that if Cheney’s “energy task force” had nothing to hide, Cheney wouldn’t be trying so hard to hide it.

  41. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 12/27/05 at 6:22 pm

    37

    We have chauvinist pigs like you to thank for the feminist movement.

  42. Mr. Cynical spews:

    Tuesday, 12/27/05 at 6:58 pm

    Rog@38 sez
    “My Christmas was just fine, thank you! I even found a gift salad under my tree!!! As for the glue, yes, I had a little Super Glue accident here a while back, but the veterinarian assured me over the phone that a new layer of skin and fur will grow in 12 weeks or so, and I’ll eventually shed the outer layer and get unstuck.
    Comment by Roger Rabbit— 12/27/05 @ 6:01 pm”

    Hey Rog, I thought your favorite glue was “airplane glue” cuz it helps you get all wound up for another exciting night of posting on HorsesAss.org!!! Life ain’t worth livin’ without airplane glue and HorsesAss.org according to Clueless the KLOWN!

  43. Voter Advocate spews:

    Tuesday, 12/27/05 at 7:11 pm

    How many Bush officials to screw in a lightbulb?

    None. There’s nothing wrong with that light bulb. There is no need to change anything. We made the right decision and nothing has happened to change our minds. People who criticize this light bulb now, just because it doesn’t work anymore, supported us when we first screwed it in, and when these flip-floppers insist on saying that it is burned out, they are merely giving aid and encouragement to the Forces of Darkness.

    — John Cleese.

    ’nuff said.

  44. Mr. Cynical spews:

    Tuesday, 12/27/05 at 7:25 pm

    Hi! My name is Larry The Cable Guy! To make a long story long, I was born in the back of an El-Camino during a Foghat concert many years ago! My mother was normal mother just like anybodys. She cooked, cleaned, kissed us goodnight, and was an Elvis impersonator on weekends! She actually looked more like the girl that played “Ralph The Carpenter” on Green Acres than Elvis, but she loved Elvis and actually sounded a little like him when she sang “Teddy Bear”. She never won a contest, however one time no one else showed up and she took 3rd. My father saw action in World War II, Korea, Vietnam, the Falklands, and a Wal-Mart in Jackson, Mississippi! He lost a leg in a car accident in 1986. He rolled over three times and wound up in a ditch, and that was just walking to the car! He’s been sober ever since, and since he only has one leg, he’s been working at a brewery making hops!

    I grew up in a good Christian home, I love freedom, the United States of America, Miss September and making boobs out of Playdough! I do political social commentaries on radio stations throughout America, and on this very web page! I started on a station in Tampa Bay and have been adding more stations every year! People ask me two questions. Number one, why are you called “The Cable Guy” and number two, how many licks does it take to get to the Tootisie roll center? Number one, I’m called Larry The Cable Guy cause my name’s Larry and I used to install cable. Number two, forty five, unless your Rosie O’Donnell, then you just eat the stick all in one crunch. I ran for president in ’92, ’96, and am currently running again. I also ran for state senate in Florida, but ran outa money at a strip club in Daytona Beach! I’m the only candidate that tells it like it is! I feel that if you don’t address the problems with true talk, then nothing will ever get solved. Nowadays the candidates talk the talk, but when it comes to walkin the walk, they trip and stumble like Ray Charles in a pumpkin patch!

    I don’t believe in solving problems by throwin money at them. I think political correct people are not solving problems but part of the problem and creating more! I believe I just pooped my pants! I believe in less government and more state control! I believe people should take personal responsibility. I believe all the telletubbies is queer, not just the purple one! I believe in the right to bear arms! Not only against scumbag criminals, but also against a tyrannical government! I believe my speling sucks! I believe Mary-Ann was a better piece of ass than Ginger! I believe that we are gradually losing personal freedoms and that if this trend continues, we will be living in a world of corporate socialism! I believe in a strong military, the Dukes Of Hazzards, and that chicken fried steak and gravy taste better than a cheerleader on game day! (I apologize) I believe the media stirs the fires of racism for ratings, and that they have sold there soul and this country out for their own gain! I believe Jesse Jackson, janet reno, Ted Turner, and the New Hollywood squares are all spawned from the devil himself! (Notice Janet Reno doesn’t even deserve capital letters) I believe in free speech, especially 900 numbers!

    My fellow Americans, remember, the more we become dependent on government as mommy and daddy, the more government has you under their authority just like mommy and daddy! I believe in America, and I believe in the people that live in it, and I believe if you don’t like my site, than you’re a commie and you need to get your fat ass off it!!

    That’s my story and my beliefs. I’m not racist, I’m not hateful, and I’m not homophobic! I’m just a concerned commentator wondering what happened to the free America that my forefathers fought and died for! Git-R-Done and GOD BLESS MY FANS AND THIS COUNTRY!!

    Larry The Cable Guy

  45. For the Clueless spews:

    Tuesday, 12/27/05 at 8:07 pm

    42 – Happy Holidays and Season’s Greetings to you too,

    BOZO!

  46. marks spews:

    Tuesday, 12/27/05 at 8:26 pm

    GBS,

    Best wishes (and I mean it; may your new year be blessed).

    Try to stay off the glass (you may remember the signs about sailors and grass?)…

    BTW – My wife still jokes about the squid thingy…

  47. Wells spews:

    Tuesday, 12/27/05 at 8:31 pm

    It’s very interesting the way the so-called moral majority, in all their religious piety, regard humanity in the Darwinian sense. Interesting, as in, what a bunch of fucking hypocritics, that is. Oh, did I say fucking? Oh, excuse me. I beg pardon of all fucking moronic republicans on the day they learn humility.

  48. sgmmac spews:

    Tuesday, 12/27/05 at 9:33 pm

    MTR
    I am praying that not only do you not have custody of any kids but that you arn’t visiting any kids either. We don’t need any more male chauvinists in this world. Thank heavens your spouse got out in time, I hope it was in one piece, because I wouldn’t put anything past someone who talks like you do.

  49. karl spews:

    Tuesday, 12/27/05 at 10:13 pm

    41

    I cant say I disagree.

    Having been screwed over by the custody system in California though, I hate for them to introduce yet another element to the system that will muddy the waters….

  50. GS spews:

    Tuesday, 12/27/05 at 10:26 pm

    I’ll bring the movie “Munich” to play for you so you can begin to understand the threat that islamic terrorism like Iran wanting to wipe Israel off the face of the earth can bring.

  51. sgmmac spews:

    Tuesday, 12/27/05 at 10:35 pm

    @48

    I agree with you and MTR about the craziness of smoking with custody. But then, there are rumors circulating about a future bill in our legislature calling for outlawing cigarette smoking in your house if you have children under 21 in your house. Who thought the cigarette nazi’s would stop at 901? They also want to outlaw smoking in your cars.

    Who said you can do what you want in the privacy of your home, that only applies in Democratic states, which Washington isn’t these days! This is the nanny state from hell where they will legislate and regulate every thing you do or say.

  52. karl spews:

    Tuesday, 12/27/05 at 10:52 pm

    50

    Well i quit in 91, and my mom is dying from lung cancer, so i dont have a great love for cigarettes.

    I have often wondered if the dangeras are so real, why it is not banned. The answer is easy: Money, not just to the politicians (republicans have taken 81% of the 31 million this last year) but also to the retailers and other beneficiaries.

    Also the federal and state governments gain billions in tobacco taxes, which if banned, would be hard to replace.

    But if the lawmakers in washington dc dont have the balls to just outlaw tobacco, we might as well expect an ever restrictive environment.

    As long as it is legal, I think the restrictions are hypocritical, but it wont stop them. So it is the world we live in.

  53. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Wednesday, 12/28/05 at 12:03 am

    42

    “Hey Rog, I thought your favorite glue was “airplane glue” cuz it helps you get all wound up for another exciting night of posting on HorsesAss.org!!! Life ain’t worth livin’ without airplane glue and HorsesAss.org according to Clueless the KLOWN!”

    I don’t know anything about airplane glue, but you seem to have expertise in this subject.

  54. Libertarian spews:

    Wednesday, 12/28/05 at 7:33 am

    If the anti-smoking folks got their way, nobody would smoke. But then there’d be no revenues from tobacco sales either. Something tells me our tax-loving government wouldn’t like that.

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