Tonight on “The David Goldstein Show”, 7PM to 10PM on Newsradio 710-KIRO:
7PM: Is President Bush unfit to lead?
That’s what columnist Joe Klein says in this week’s Time Magazine, in which he outline’s the Bush administration’s “epic collapse.” Do you agree with Klein that “arrogance (the surge), incompetence (Walter Reed) and cynicism (the U.S. Attorneys)” makes this administration “one of the worst in American history”…? I sure do.
8PM: Immigration
9PM: TBA
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Finally, someone loses their job
Cuyahoga Co. Elections Director Resigns
WEWS News (Cleveland
“And last month, two elections board workers were convicted of illegally rigging the 2004 presidential election recount so they could avoid a more thorough review of the votes.”
Gee whiz! Didn’t Bush win the election because of Cuyahoga County?
No. They are not “one of” the worst . . .
They are the worst by any G.D. measure.
Rat bastards.
“illegally rigging” Let’s see…. How can we “spin” that to make it look like Republicans were ” …convicted of illegally rigging the 2004 presidential election recount.”
When we get the executive branch back, we should use the powers GWB grabbed for the executive to keep an eye on people stupid, mean, and traitorous enough to still support the Republican Party.
They already have the concentration camps and secret prisons in place. It would be sweet revenge indeed to use it on them.
They declared this political war, but we will finish it.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200704060003
Conservative Radio Host,
Imus, apologized for “nappy-headed hos” remark
After reportedly defending his April 4 description of the Rutgers University women’s basketball team, which is comprised of eight African-American and two white players, as “nappy-headed hos,” on the April 6 edition of MSNBC’s Imus in the Morning, host Don Imus apologized for the remark. Imus called his comments “insensitive and ill-conceived,” adding that “[i]t was completely inappropriate, and we can understand why people were offended.” He further called the comments “thoughtless and stupid.”
“ (I am)thoughtless and stupid.” Imus
I think he speaks for all Republicans!
Things are so bad for Republicans that a generic Democrat would get 68% of the vote.
I’m wondering when 18 GOP senators will begin thinking about self-preservation.
The problem is not that Bush is unfit to command, the real problem is that people are unfit to vote.
A lie only works if people are stupid enough to believe in the lie.
re 9: Bush never won. Let that sink in, then come back.
“Activist contends passport stall tied to anti-war efforts
“By BRANDON ENG
“P-I REPORTER
“A local activist thinks the federal government is trying to prevent him from leaving the U.S. because of his anti-war efforts that included displaying pictures of Iraq war victims.
“Thomas Hays, 38, says he applied for a passport with his birth certificate, Social Security card and Washington state identification card in February. He then received a surprise in the mail at the end of the month when the government said it needed much more documentation — some of which is difficult to quickly obtain — to give him a passport. The State Department … wanted Hays to provide ‘school transcripts, high school yearbook pages showing your name and photograph, religious records, medical records, (and) tax/employment records.’ All the records … had to be submitted within 30 days … but a full employment record has to be obtained through the Social Security Administration, which can take three to six weeks ….
“Hays … is planning an accredited trip through Evergreen State College for the Group of Eight Summit in Germany in June followed by a trip to Mexico. … Now the State Department’s request threatens to disrupt Hays’ schoolwork. Not only would Hays miss his opportunity for his study-abroad program if his application is denied, but he would have to delay his plans for graduate school for a year.
“The department stated in Hays’ letter that the identification provided was insufficient. …
“Hays believes his plans … to be a medic for protesters at the G8 Summit may have something to do with his passport delays. Hays is part of PeaceGuard Northwest, a group of anti-globalization activists who give aid to demonstrators …. After protests from June 6-8 in Germany, Hays intended to interview working people in Mexico about the effects of G8 decisions.
“Hays does not feel that he was given a rationale for the harsh guidelines for obtaining a passport. He says he has been cleared for background checks for youth care and to be a teaching assistant.
“Attorney Paul Richmond is … an independent civil rights attorney based in Port Townsend. Richmond helped Hays write a reply to the department. Richmond is … surprised by the letter from the department and admits, ‘creepy things have happened since (the Department of) Homeland Security came out; the ACLU has dug up some creepy (government watch) lists.'”
Quoted under Fair Use; for complete story and/or copyright info see http://tinyurl.com/yqecgf
Roger Rabbit Commentary: When we get the executive branch back, we should comb lists of GOP donors, then require all of those people to submit the same information requested from Mr. Hays to get THEIR passports. Let ’em know what it feels like. And why shouldn’t the rules be the same for everyone?
“Climbers Witnessing Global Warming
“Saturday, Apr. 07, 2007
“By AP/JOHN HEILPRIN Article
“(Bend, Ore.) — Mountaineers are bringing back firsthand accounts of vanishing glaciers, melting ice routes, crumbling rock formations and flood-prone lakes where glaciers once rose.
“The observations are transforming a growing number of alpine and ice climbers, some of whom have scientific training, into eyewitnesses of global warming. …
“‘I personally have done a bunch of ice climbs around the world that no longer exist,’ said Yvon Chouinard, a renowned climber and … founder of Patagonia, Inc. …. ‘I was aghast at the change.’ …
“Alpine climbers are worrying about the loss of classic routes and potential new lines up mountains that are melting, from the Cascades in the Pacific Northwest and the Alps in Europe to the Andes in South America and the Himalaya in Asia. Their anecdotes often reflect what science is finding, but with stories and pictures from places where most scientists aren’t able to reach.
“‘As climbers we see these places, we go all over the world,’ Mark Bowen, a climber and physicist who wrote a book on climate and mountains, told the American Alpine Club at its annual meeting last week in Bend. ‘We’re in touch with the natural world like few people are. We can see the changes better than most people can,’ he said.
“Scientists and diplomats at an international conference in Belgium predicted on Friday that global warming would turn many glaciers to lakes and cause rock avalanches because of frozen ground melting up high. … Already, Switzerland’s Matterhorn had to be closed to some climbing at times because of recent summer rockfall attributed to global warming and its Great Aletsch Glacier — Europe’s largest – has retreated … miles from its … length in 1860. …
“At Montana’s Glacier National Park, glaciers are vanishing like the storied snows of Africa’s Mount Kilimanjaro. In South America, the great ice fields of Patagonia in Argentina and Chile are shrinking ….
“The glacier from which Edmund Hillary and Tenzing Norgay made their first ascent of 29,035-foot Mount Everest in 1953 has retreated so much that mountaineers now walk hours longer to reach it. …
“Japanese mountaineer and explorer Tomatsu Nakamura, editor of the Japanese Alpine News, said climbers are seeing more melting and less snow and ice in the mountains of the eastern Himalaya, Tibet and Bhutan, home to many of the highest unclimbed peaks in the world.
“Since the 1940s, when geologist Maynard Miller began conducting research on Alaska’s vast Juneau Icefield, he has seen how global warming has affected glaciers studied in the longest continuous research program of any icefield system. ‘We’re going to be in one heck of a mess, I can guarantee that. We have mucked up the world’s climate,’ said Miller, who was part of the 1963 expedition that got the first Americans to the summit of Mount Everest. ‘Everything is changing, minute after minute, nothing is the same,’ he said. ‘Glaciers are extraordinarily sensitive indicators of climate change.'”
Quoted under Fair Use; for complete story and/or copyright info see http://tinyurl.com/357ltj
Roger Rabbit Commentary: Who do rightwing liars think they’re kidding? You could put Redneck on an Arctic ice floe and when it melted from under him, he’d still be braying, “There is no global warming, there is no global warming … ”
Come to think of it, I just had a brainstorm …
Roger Rabbit @ 11
Denying this fellow a passport seems perfectly legitimate to me. 22 CFR 51.70(b)(4) allows a passport to be denied if: “The Secretary determines that the national’s activities abroad are causing or are likely to cause serious damage to the national security or the foreign policy of the United States”.
http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7.....r51.70.htm
Thomas Hays has publicly admitted that he wishes to help disrupt the G-8 summit in Germany in June of this year. So the State Department has every legal right to deny this fellow a passport, or to require strict proof of his identity if they decide to issue him one anyway.
@13 “Thomas Hays has publicly admitted that he wishes to help disrupt the G-8 summit in Germany in June of this year.”
Since when is it the State Department’s job to police demonstrations in West Germany? Isn’t that the job of the West German police? Isn’t he being denied a passport for political reasons, contrary to State Department policy?
If protesting is the litmus test that determines whether one can get a passport, then no Republican should be able to get a passport, because their support of this administration’s constitutional violations constitutes a disruptive protest against the laws of our land.
Pope sounds more like he’s stumping for conservative votes every day! The $64 question is, which office is he running for this time? Has Pope set his sights on the Big Prize? Will he advance from losing port commissioner to losing the presidency itself?
Frankly, I think we should all drop the phony pretenses and openly run a partisan government. That’s going to happen anyway. When they’re in power, liberals can’t get passports. When we’re in power, conservatives can’t get passports. When they steal elections, we should steal them back! If they punch us in the nose, we should kick them in the nuts!! May the best assholes win!!!
I also think we should investigate Pope’s sources of campaign funds, to make sure he’s not robbing his kids’ piggy banks. I’m not saying he is; I’m merely suggesting we take routine precautions.
Voice of Chalk Scratching: So Nancy Pelosi is?
Logan Act:
“Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply himself, or his agent, to any foreign government, or the agents thereof, for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects. ”
As soon as Pelosi took whatever was said by Olmert to Assad, she broke the law. I bet she said it was written in the male personage so it didn’t apply to her.
Of course the law is lost on Moonbat!s, even when I posted the USA Today and WAPo editorials last Thursday!
@ 18- fine and good, but the White House briefed Pelosi before she went, therefore “without the authority” is a stretch.
And what about the Republicans who went before her?
And what about the Republican House telling foreign leaders to ignore Clinton?
re18: And yet, PudWax, your righteous fury seems not to extend to Ronald Reagan, who was making arms for hostages deals with Iran while Carter was President — treasonously undermining a sitting President.
Conservative radio personality, Imus, called women’s basketball team “nappy-headed hos”
http://mediamatters.org/items/200704040011
On the April 4 edition of MSNBC’s Imus in the Morning, host Don Imus referred to the Rutgers University women’s basketball team, which is comprised of eight African-American and two white players, as “nappy-headed hos” immediately after the show’s executive producer, Bernard McGuirk, called the team “hard-core hos.”
Republicans are treasonous, lying, SUBMISSIVE/”AUTHORITARITARDS”!!
Poonbat-Headless Lucy!
How many names does Voice of Chalk Scratching allow you to use?
Pudwax. Are you an”AUTHORITARITARD”! ???
Betcha Are!
Is it OK for wingnuts to call black women “nappy-headed hos”?
C’mon. Weigh in, suckuh!
See last week’s newspapers about Bush and Condi saying not to go to Syria. I guess that tidbit was missed by Headless Lucy! Ooops.. “PoonBat”
re 24: George W. Bush is not the legally elected President of the United States. She is not bound to listen to anything he says.
Conservative radio personality, Imus, called women’s basketball team “nappy-headed hos”
http://mediamatters.org/items/ 200704040011
“On the April 4 edition of MSNBC’s Imus in the Morning, host Don Imus referred to the Rutgers University women’s basketball team, which is comprised of eight African-American and two white players, as “nappy-headed hos” immediately after the show’s executive producer, Bernard McGuirk, called the team “hard-core hos.”
PudWax = SUBMISSIVE/”AUTHORITARITARD”!!
Headless: Good try at deflection. Your argument is defenseless as others put forth.
So I will not comment on Don Imus! Especially to you!
I think it’s perfectly OK forConservative radio personality, Imus, to call a women’s college basketball team “nappy-headed hos” because he is a conservative and he just joking (3/5’s of the time). hehe
Notice Headless in most of the comments above must have looked up Bush and Condi telling Pelosi not to go to Syria. Next we see Olmert rebutting Pelosi. She broke the Logan Law which I put up for all to read. As soon as she opened her mouth she broke it.
Can’t use the Repubs because they don’t control congress.
Remember Pelosi told Bush she was in control two weeks ago. So… your argument holds no water.
“Good try at deflection…. I will not comment on Don Imus! Especially to you!” PudWax
So, I’m “deflecting”?
What about Reagan making arms for hostages deals with the Iranians while Carter was President? That’s treasonous! The Iranians contributed millions of dollars to Reagan’s campaign.
I bet you will not deal with this issue. You can’t.
Not without looking like a chump!
So, Puddybud. All those people who wrote letters to the Iranian government during the hostage crisis, saying “please let our people go” were in violation of the Logan act. Let’s round ’em up, boys!
People that write letters to the Israeli government saying that they shouldn’t negotiate with Hezbollah would also be in violation of the Logan act. For that matter, wasn’t there a group that took out an ad in the New York Times, encouraging Israel to stand up to the Palestinians? Off to jail with them!
Oh dear. Lots of church leaders have gone to countries all over the world in an effort to get their governments to become more humane. Billy Graham will probably have to spend the rest of his life in jail. Oh, well. The law is the law. At least he’ll have lots of company. Does he get along well with Rev
RidiculousRobertson?That would also include most of the leadership of every major denomination, and most minor ones. If they’ve ever written a letter trying to influence any foreign government, then they’re guilty.
If they’ve written to China to ask for better treatment for missionaries. If they’ve written to Russia to ask that people be able to bring Bibles into the country, they’re guilty. If they have ever discussed anything more substantive that the weather with a foreign leader, they’re guilty.
Wow, Puddybud. You and Mr. Stupid should get together. I think he wants to put all Christians in jail too.
A partisan chump who allows conservatives to shit all over him!
You sorry little chump.
Ok Voice of Chalk Scratching who wrote Comment #28?
Let’s see if Voice of Chalk Scratching is an HONEST person. I say he won’t tell because a Moonbat! wrote it.
1) He’s dishonest
2) He’s a Moonbat!
3) He’s a Libtard
4) All of the above
Okay and the answer is…
Wrong John Barelli. Anyone can ask for someone to do something. Pelosi took a private message and blabbed it. Good Try John.
I really expected more from you.
I love all the excuses you Moronic Moonbat!s make for Pelosi!
So, Mr. Pud, let me understand this, if the Democrats do it, it is illegal, if the Republicans do it, you can’t seem to acknowledge it?
Another question, has this President done anything wrong? If so, can/should we do anything about it? If not, well, nevermind.
Headless Lucy (Poonbat) the results came back on your IQ Exam – Negative!
How ’bout this Pud:
“WASHINGTON, April 7 — Three months after the United States successfully pressed the United Nations to impose strict sanctions on North Korea because of the country’s nuclear test, Bush administration officials allowed Ethiopia to complete a secret arms purchase from the North, in what appears to be a violation of the restrictions, according to senior American officials.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04.....ref=slogin
Bush and Co. are encouraging North Korea, one of the “axis of Evil”, and by the way, the ONLY one with nuclear weapons, to sustain its economy with arms sales.
Please help me understand.
@18 Few things are more dangerous than (a) loaded guns and (b) uneducated simpletons who think they know some law.
Give me your moronic excuses for Bush.
K – Cornell Grad like Voice of Chalk Scratching: Did Pelosi break the law or not.
BTW – From Wikipedia
“The October Surprise conspiracy was an alleged plot that claimed representatives of the 1980 Ronald Reagan presidential campaign had conspired with Islamic Republic of Iran to delay the release of 52 Americans held hostage in Tehran until after the 1980 U.S. Presidential election. In exchange for their cooperation, the United States would supply weapons to Iran as well as unfreeze Iran’s monetary assets being held by the US government.
Jimmy Carter had been attempting to deal with the Iran hostage crisis and the hostile regime of the Ayatollah Khomeini for nearly a year. Those who assert that a deal was made allege that certain Republicans with CIA connections, including George H. W. Bush, arranged to have the hostages held through October, until Reagan could defeat Carter in early November, and then be released, thereby preventing an “October surprise” from the Carter administration in which the hostages would be released shortly before the election. The hostages were released the day of Reagan’s inauguration, twenty minutes after his inaugural address.
After 12 years of news reports looking into the alleged conspiracy, both houses of the US Congress held separate inquiries into the issue, and journalists from sources such as Newsweek and The New Republic looked into the charges. Both Congressional inquires, as well as the majority of investigative reports, found the evidence to be insufficient. Nevertheless, several individuals, most notably Lyndon LaRouche, continue to claim otherwise.”
So you who claim this must be Lyndon LaRouche followers.
Waaaaaa haaaaaa haaaaaa HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR!
Nuff Said!
BTW the Moonbat!s were in charge of Congress when the report was released!
If she broke the law, let the Bush Justice Dept. get her. I’ve heard no indication that they will.
And if Wikipedia is the best you’ve got, you’ve got nothing. I can edit it tonight to change it, if it were worth the time.
Tell me about North Korea.
Most dangerous thing in the world is a retired guvmint retread lawyer, PelletHead, who “claims” to be an exspurt in everything.
The thing about law that always trips uneducated simpletons is that even when laws are written in plain English, they don’t mean what they say in plain English.
Whoa K – When PelletHead and others quote from Wikipedia nary a peep from as ASSWIPE such as yourself. Hypocrit!
Stuff it BUTTASS!
Pudhole, if you think that’s the most dangerous thing, that explains a lot.
Pudass, I do not feel compelled to answer every comment here, only those addressed to me.
Why don’t you answer any of mine?
Goldy asks “Is President Bush unfit to lead?”
If ever there rhetorical question – this is it.
So PelletHead, when the USA Today and WaPo put out editorials saying she was wrong, they must be simpletons?
Gosh PelletHead, your mind is getting mushier every day!
Are you sure it was your back and not alzsheimers?
North Korea? Hijacking the thread?
Scary ReBUTTal don’t like dat!
My computer scans are done, and Pud refuses to engage, so off to bed.
K – Maybe you should use dat IVY league edumication and pay attention sometimes!
K – Keep hoping I’ll answer your comment when you skip over mind.
oops. should be mine.
Puddybud
Read the act again.
Of course the examples I cited were absurd, and if anyone ever tried to prosecute any of them, they’d be laughed out of court on any number of grounds.
The US Government has disputes and controversies with China and Russia with regards to freedom of religion and treatment of missionaries. The act would apply.
The US Government has disputes and controversies with Israel with regards to negotiation with Hezbollah and the treatment of Palestinians. The act would apply.
The US Government had disputes and controversies with regards to hostages held in Iran. The act would apply.
The US Government has had disputes and controversies with just about every government on the planet at one time or another. The act does not make an exception if you’re writing or communicating in favor of the US position.
That is my point. It was passed in 1799 and there has never been a successful prosecution under the act.
If you would have thought to do a bit of research yourself, rather than just parroting the talking points out of NewsMax, you would know that.
Additionally, back in 1975, when Sen McGovern went to Cuba to speak to the Cuban government, the US State Department under President Ford determined:
Sorry, Puddybud. It won’t fly on any number of different levels.
The Logan Act was enacted in 1799, but even though it has been on the books for 208 years, no one has ever been prosecuted under it. Consequently, no court has ever had occasion to rule on its constitutionality. In 1964, a federal judge, in dicta, suggested the law probably is unconstitutionally vague.
The State Department published its interpretation of the Logan Act in 1975 in response to complaints about a visit to Cuba by two senators. It said:
“The clear intent of this provision [Logan Act] is to prohibit unauthorized persons from intervening in disputes between the United States and foreign governments. Nothing in section 953 [Logan Act], however, would appear to restrict members of the Congress from engaging in discussions with foreign officials in pursuance of their legislative duties under the Constitution.”
Under this interpretation, Pelosi’s visit to Syria is perfectly legal.
Golly John are you this dense before Easter. NewsMax. I haven’t visited them in a WEEK!
Let me say it again.
Pelosi took a “message” from Israeli Prime Minister Olmert to Syrian President Bashir Assad! The Logan Act says only the executive (president and state department) can take messages between countries!
BTW the Act was amended in 1994.
Again, this is not about the US and another country. She took a “message” from one country and went to another country and blabbed it. She is not allowed to do that under Logan.
Did you FORGET Moonbat!s Olmert OFFICIALLY came out and said she was WRONG? Is that lost on you too?
Oops… the wife is calling and I always deliver Goodnight Moonbat!s
@47 Dangerous to him, maybe, because whenever he posts bullshit here, I debunk it.
@50 An editorial is not a judicial opinion.
Just checking before I went to sleep.
PelletHead – You are the king of Bullshittium Element!
PelletHead NEVER place editorials on ASSWipes again then. Can you keep your own word?
Doubt it!
What we have here, folks, is a 208-year-old law for which no authoritative interpretation exists for the simple reason it has never been applied to an actual set of facts. You can speculate all you want about what it means, but unless you’re a federal judge hearing a case, your opinion doesn’t mean squat. So, to go around saying “Pelosi broke the law” — and using the Logan Act as your authority for this assertion — is presumptuous, not to mention foolhardy. Add to that the issue of constitutionality, and these assertions definitely belong in the “hot air” category. Pudwhacker, you’ve already embarrassed yourself enough tonight; I suggest you leave this topic to lawyers like me. You are clearly in over your head on this one.
Read the act one more time, Puddybud. The words are clear.
If you commence correspondence with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, then the act applies.
Actually, under a closer reading, it could easily be argued that the dispute between Syria and Israel is not a dispute or controversy with the United States, so the act would not apply. There is no prohibition in the plain words of the act against a person doing any sort of negotiating as long as the United States is not a party to the dispute.
Yes, as Israel is a close ally, and our foriegn affairs are rather closely interwoven, that argument is splitting hairs, but the writers of the act didn’t envision us having that sort of relationship with any foriegn country.
The border dispute is between Israel and Syria. We aren’t officially a party to the dispute, so Speaker Pelosi can do any negotiating she wants between the two countries.
So the Logan Act doesn’t apply. Not guilty.
Roger Rabbit Quiz
Before you go to bed, Pudwhacker, I’ve decided to reach out to you and give you a chance to rehabilitate yourself — intellectually speaking — by writing a quiz so easy even YOU should get it right.
Are you READY? Here goes:
The Logan Act is named after a guy named:
(A) Smith
(B) Jones
(C) Doe
(D) Shevardnadze
(E) Logan
Please write your answer here: _________
Hint: This is not a trick question, nor does it require any technical expertise in law.
Roger Rabbit @ 11
IS THIS “THOMAS HAYS” THE SAME AS THE ALLEGED SEXUAL OFFENDER FROM THURSTON COUNTY?
There may very well be a good reason why the State Department wants better documentation of the identity of “Thomas Hays”. There are only five people named “Thomas Hays” registered to vote in Washington. One of these is allegedly “Thomas Anthony Dean Hays”, allegedly born on November 30, 1968, who is registered to vote in King County. Presumably, the same person, since the fellow in the Seattle P-I claims to be 38 years old.
When I search for “Thomas Hays” on the statewide case name index for civil and criminal cases in superior, district, and municipal courts, I get four cases that are possibly associated with this same person:
http://dw.courts.wa.gov/index......rms=accept
2 Hays, Thomas
Respondent Thurston County Dist SA06-0001 06-29-2006 Civil
Sexual Assault Protection
5 Hays, Thomas
Defendant Thurston Superior 06-2-01365-1 07-26-2006 Civil
LWR CRT APPL
8 Hays, Thomas Anthony
Defendant Seattle Municipal Ct 436394 03-24-2003 Criminal Non-Traffic
9 Hays, Thomas Anthony Dean
Defendant Kcdc-east Div (sho) CP37201KC 02-01-1996 Criminal Non-Traffic
As for case # 8, this appears to be the same 2003 arrest in Seattle that is mentioned in the full Seattle Post Intelligencer article. The charges were dismissed on August 25, 2003 and he wasn’t convicted of anything.
Interestingly enough, his date of birth is listed as November 30, 1968 on the state voter database, but as November 20, 1968 with Seattle Municipal Court. So it is possible that there is some confusion as to when he was actually born or who he actually is.
Much more alarming, of course, is the possibility that this “Thomas Hays” could be associated with Cases # 2 and # 5 on this list. It appears that someone named “Thomas Hays” was sued by a female petitioner in Thurston County District Court in June 2006 for a sexual assault protection order.
A sexual assault protection order is a protection order that an alleged victim of sexual assault can apply to the court to keep the alleged perpetrator away from them. It is designed for victim of stranger sexual assault who do not meet the “domestic relationship” requirement with the person who sexually assaulted her/him to qualify for a domestic violence protection order.
Whoever this “Thomas Hays” happens to be, it appears that he lost in district court and got slapped with a sexual assault protection order. He apparently appealed this order to Thurston County Superior Court, where no decision has yet been rendered on the appeal. In any event, one of the parties appealed, and I would bet dollars-to-donuts that it was the alleged perpetrator instead of the alleged victim doing the appealing.
The Seattle P-I article said that this “Thomas Hays” with passport problems is affiliated with The Evergreen State College, which happens to be located in Olympia, in Thurston County. None of the other four “Thomas Hays” persons are registered to vote in Thurston County, and I haven’t been able to find any other “Thomas Hays” with a logical connection to Thurston County.
I am not passing judgment on (A) whether the “Thomas Hays” with the passport problems is the same “Thomas Hays” involved in the sexual assault protection order proceeding in Thurston County, or (B) whether the “Thomas Hays” in the Thurston County court system should be found either civilly or criminally liable for alleged sexual assault.
All I am saying is that the State Department certainly has good reasons to further verify the identity of the “Thomas Hays” who is applying for a United States passport.
@65 The exception paragraph is important too, John. Notwithstanding other provisions of the Act, you are permitted to petition a foreign government for redress of grievances. Let’s say, for example, your child is being held hostage by Iran. It’s not a violation of the Logan Act for you to ask the leaders of Iran to release your child.
But underlying all of this is the probability that the law is unconstitutional to begin with.
At least, that’s what the only federal judge ever to speak on the subject (albeit in dicta) suggested.
Puddingbrain probably doesn’t know what “dicta” is. He probably thinks a “dicta” is the part-time ruler of a country too small to need a full-time “dictator.”
@68 How the hell would I know, Richard? I don’t know the guy. All I did was copy-and-paste a news story. If he’s a sex offender, he shouldn’t get a passport. That seems pretty fucking obvious.
Roger Rabbit @ 14
“West Germany”? Are you suffering from short-term memory loss? That is an archaic political designation. Germany was re-united in October 1990. “West Germany” referred to the “Federal Republic of Germany” when the nation was divided, with “East Germany” being the now-former “German Democratic Republic”. Since October 1990, the nation is simply referred to as “Germany”.
You probably didn’t want to give Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush credit for their efforts in re-uniting Germany and getting rid of the Soviet occupation of the eastern sector of that nation.
@68 (continued) But if he is a sex offender, why would it take the State Department more than 5 minutes to deny his passport application? Why can’t the State Department find that out with a few computer keystrokes? Sounds like a mismanagement issue.
I’m only a Democratic party hack and liberal propagandist. Performing background checks on subjects of news stories ain’t in my job description.
@74 Reagan didn’t get rid of the Soviet occupation of East Germany; Gorbachev did.
And given that ol’ Ronnie was comatose from 1982 on, according to reports of witnesses of cabinet meetings, I think it’s high time you started giving Nancy Reagan the credit she deserves for running the country for 7 years.
She should’ve been impeached for that Iran-Contra business, though. That was unconstitutional and illegal, not to mention immoral.
Roger Rabbit @ 73
Even if he is the same “Thomas Hays” from the Thurston County court system, he may very well be legally entitled to a U.S. passport. There is a important difference between having a civil protection order based upon a sexual assault and being convicted of a sexual assault crime. Even if he were a convicted sex offender, he could still be issued a passport if there wasn’t a warrant for his arrest, and if leaving the U.S. didn’t violate any condition of his parole or other legal restriction placed upon him.
But just because a sex offender may have a legal right to a U.S. passport doesn’t mean that other countries are required to admit that person. Germany and other countries have the right to flag a sex offender, not allow them to enter on visa-free conditions that other U.S. citizens may otherwise enter under, place special scrutiny on any visa applications, and deny visa or entry entirely. They also have a right to place him under special scrutiny if they do decide to let him enter their country.
If this “Thomas Hays” is the same person involved in the Thurston County sexual assault protection order proceeding, the State Department will probably want to put that into our intelligence computers and share this same information with our friends and allies to go into their intelligence computers. So it should be extremely important to verify this person’s exact identity, so his liberties in other countries can be protected if he is not the same person, and the security of other countries can be protected if he is.
Roger Rabbit @ 77
He listened to Ronald Reagan when he said “Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!” Took less than 30 months to do so.
Roger at 11:36PM
Agreed, but a school class simply writing and asking that a non-related hostage be released would not fall under “redress of grievences”, so could be considered a violation.
Of course, the whole argument is silly. It took me a while to realize that Puddybud is also somehow stretching the term “carry on”, which normally means “to continue to do or be involved in something” to somehow include acting as a messenger.
That argument is so absurd that it took me a while to realize what he was saying.
@80 So you’ve changed your mind and he’s not a sex offender anymore?
@81 No, Richard. He listened to the legislative bodies of the constituent republics of the USSR that voted to declare their independence. And why not? The Soviet constitution allowed secession.
Isn’t it ironic that America, paragon of democracy, refused to allow member states to secede and fought a bloody civil war to prevent their secession; whereas the rulers of the USSR, history’s archetype totalitarian state, not only allowed its member states to quit but voted to disband their government when they did?
It’s easy to gauge Reagan’s importance in the dissolution of the USSR. Simply ask this question: Would the Soviet Union have fallen without Reagan? The answer is yes, and on nearly the same timetable. That makes Reagan a bit player in the drama.
Roger Rabbit @ 83
I am withholding judgment on that issue, until I see what the real judges have said about him. I would have to see what the court files say about him — first, to see if he is that “Thomas Hays”, and second, to see if the judge issued a sexual assault protection order.
The one thing I am clear about is that the State Department has solid reasons to demand better proof of his identity.
Of course, I’m well aware that it’s an article of faith among conservatives — to the point of religious fervor — that Reagan single-handedly knocked over the Soviet Union.
Well, they’re wrong about everything else, so it’s not surprising they’re wrong about that, too.
@86 ‘Richard’ is a common given name, and ‘Pope’ is a common surname. There are a lot of Richard Popes in this country, and I’ll bet at least one of them is “an alleged sex offender”! So, if you ever apply for a passport, I think the State Department should request school transcripts, high school yearbook pages showing your name and photograph, religious records, medical records, and tax/employment records. And give you only 30 days to respond. To make sure you’re not THAT Richard Pope. Can’t be too careful, you know! Also, your affiliation with the Republican Party is further grounds for suspicion.
Okay, Richard, now that we’ve had our fun with this — why don’t you admit it looks like the government is jerking this guy around because they don’t like his politics?
And while you’re at it, you can throw in, for good measure, that’s an abuse of power.
Roger — aren’t you supposed to be out laying Easter eggs?
Roger — would you like to wager a bet on whether or not the stymied passport applicant is the same “Thomas Hays”?
@92 How do you plan to verify that, Richard?
BREAKING NEWS — DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE VIOLATES LOGAN ACT!!!
“By FOSTER KLUG
“Associated Press Writer
“ELMENDORF AIR FORCE BASE, Alaska — New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson left Saturday … for North Korea, where he hopes to reclaim the remains of American soldiers killed in the Korean War. … [Richardson] flew to Pyongyang on a U.S. government aircraft and was scheduled to arrive Sunday. …
“‘Richardson is someone who the North Koreans actually seem to listen to and have confidence in,’ said Ralph Cossa, president of the Pacific Forum CSIS think tank.
“Richardson has regularly made diplomatic trips, often on his own initiative, to a number of countries at odds with the United States. He has built a special rapport with North Korean officials – this will be his sixth visit there.”
Quoted under Fair Use; for complete story and/or copyright info see http://tinyurl.com/29jcy9
Roger Rabbit Commentary: A mere governor with no diplomatic portfolio goes to North Korea to repatriate U.S remains! The horror! The horror!
@91 What do you think I’ve been doing for the last 1 1/2 hours? =:-)
http://tinyurl.com/2soc5d
So if Nancy Pelosi violated the law by going to Syria – then so did the three Publicans who went with her. You invred righties can’t have it both ways. Even though you wish you could.
MR Stupid I’ll deal with you first.
The Republicans did not deliver a message to Bashir Assad from Ehud Olmert. Can that Rosy Palmed Brain of your get it?
Mr PelletHead: You and others say Bush broke laws.
Name them. Not speculation from editorial left-win whack-job web sites. No help from Google. Since you are the holier-than-thou lawyer, name the laws broken.
John Barelli: Keep up the mantra. Nancy Pelosi had no agenda and didn’t misspeak.
John what part of “Israel is ready to engage in peace talks” which she said, and Olmert immediately announcing “until Syria stopped its support of terrorist groups there would be no peace talks” confused you? What part of Hamas, Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad did she forget John?
Unless she was directly charged by the State Department to carry diplomatic messages between two other countries (which we know she wasn’t), she was in Logan violation.
Forget what PelletHead said. Remember PelletHead said he likes your sides crooks better than my side, so they get a pass. Look it up on ASSWipes. He wrote it regarding John Murtha, William the Fridge Jefferson, and the VW guy.
Isn’t this the new Moonbat! Congressional Shadow Goverment in action? What part of separation of powers confuses you John.
For instance John, when your hero Jesse Jackson went to the Middle east and got the military personnel released, he WAS NOT in violation of the Logan Act.
The canard you Moonbat!s bring up is personal redressing of grievances against a foreign power.
I NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT THAT! Where did I blog that. Citation please. You libtards keep mentioning that.
And John did you forget these same terrorist groups are now in the USA begging for libtard Moonbat! funds to send overseas? Her visit to their sponsoring nation carrying the wrong message makes you happy?
http://www.somebodyhelpme.info.....rk_map.gif
Are these groups the next donkocrapic voting block?
Visit http://www.somebodyhelpme.info/. Especially look at http://www.somebodyhelpme.info.....ikids.html.
It may open your eyes. Naah… nothing can open the eyes of your side anymore.
John since Voice of Chalk Scratching will filter my original #103 message put the following into one word: some body help me, then add the period and attach info to the end. Navigate around. See your friends and the Fascists (people who want to take away your guns) in action!
See what Islamic Jihad spokesman Khaled Al-Batch said:
“Nancy Pelosi understands the area [Middle East] well, more than Bush and Dr. [Condoleeza] Rice. If the Democrats want to make negotiations with Syria, Hamas, and Hezbollah, this means the Democratic Party understands well what happens in this area and I think Pelosi will succeed. … I hope she wins the next elections.”
Even they got it John. Man you are blinded by your Moonbat!tism
John: Why not call for a special prosecutor to investigate what was said behind closed doors in the donkocrapic caucus and subpoena the donkocrapic congressional PC email system and see if this shadow government is in action? Since she did no wrong per you and PelletHead, lets have open hearings.
PUDDYBUD! YOU’VE BEEN SHREDDED! NORMALLY YOU’D THINK YOU SCORE A POINT WHEN PEOPLE HERE IGNORE YOUR BULLSHIT EVEN WHEN YOU’VE BEEN DEBUNKED TIME AND TIME AGAIN!
AND THAT REMARK ABOUT “LEFT-WIN WHACK JOB WEBSITES”! HAH! YOU’RE THE FREAKING KING OF RIGHT WING BULLSHIT WEB SITES!
OK DID PELOSI BREAK THE LAW? FINE. LET ONE OF THOSE WHACK JOB U.S. ATTORNEY’S THAT ROVE PERSONALLY APPROVED PROSECUTE PELOSI. HELL I’M ALL FOR IT. IF THE DAMN FOOL IDIOTS YOU WORSHIP ARE THAT STUPID THEN THE REPUBLICANS WILL BE TRULY PUT OUT OF BUSINESS FOR AT LEAST A GENERATION.
FOR RAILROADING A GRANDMA!!! LMAO!!!
HELL, THEY FIRED EIGHT REPUBLICAN ATTORNEYS. KARL ROVE, HERE’S YOUR NOMINEE – PUDDYBUD, THE KNOW-IT-ALL BLOWHARD!!!
LMAO!!!
Puddybud:
No, as the words “carry on correspondence” in the act refers to continuing ongoing correspondence. The meaning of the phrase “carry on” in this context means “to continue to do or be involved in something“.
It does not mean to act as a messenger, which I’m sure that you must have learned in middle school English class.
Puddybud, please go read the history of the Logan Act. It was interesting reading for me, and you might also enjoy it.
Here’s a reference from the Library of Congress, done last year that directly speaks to the matter:
http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL33265.pdf
It only 14 pages long, so it shouldn’t take you much time to read it, and it has most of the pertinent information. Just to ease your mind, it was done back while the Republicans were still in control of Congress.
I’m not a lawyer or legislator, and to my knowledge, neither are you. The report above was written by a lawyer, expert in this area of law, for legislators.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/r.....nde08.html
“The arms-for-hostages proposal divided the administration. Longtime policy adversaries Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger and Secretary of State George Shultz opposed the deal, but Reagan, McFarlane and CIA director William Casey supported it. With the backing of the president, the plan progressed. By the time the sales were discovered, more than 1,500 missiles had been shipped to Iran. Three hostages had been released, only to be replaced with three more, in what Secretary of State George Shultz called “a hostage bazaar.”
When the Lebanese newspaper “Al-Shiraa” printed an exposé on the clandestine activities in November 1986, Reagan went on television and vehemently denied that any such operation had occurred. He retracted the statement a week later, insisting that the sale of weapons had not been an arms-for-hostages deal. Despite the fact that Reagan defended the actions by virtue of their good intentions, his honesty was doubted. Polls showed that only 14 percent of Americans believed the president when he said he had not traded arms for hostages.
While probing the question of the arms-for-hostages deal, Attorney General Edwin Meese discovered that only $12 million of the $30 million the Iranians reportedly paid had reached government coffers. Then-unknown Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North of the National Security Council explained the discrepancy: he had been diverting funds from the arms sales to the Contras, with the full knowledge of National Security Adviser Admiral John Poindexter and with the unspoken blessing, he assumed, of President Reagan.
Poindexter resigned, and North was fired, but Iran-Contra was far from over. The press hounded the president: Did he know about these illegal activities, and if not, how could something of this magnitude occur without his knowledge? In an investigation by the Reagan-appointed Tower Commission, it was determined that, as president, Reagan’s disengagement from the management of his White House had created conditions which made possible the diversion of funds to the Contras. But there was no evidence linking Reagan to the diversion.
Speculation about the involvement of Reagan, Vice President George Bush and the administration at large ran rampant. Independent Counsel Lawrence Walsh investigated the affair for the next eight years. Fourteen people were charged with either operational or “cover-up” crimes. In the end, North’s conviction was overturned on a technicality, and President Bush issued six pardons, including one to McFarlane, who had already been convicted, and one to Weinberger before he stood trial.
Although laws had been broken, and Reagan’s image suffered as a result of Iran-Contra, his popularity rebounded. In 1989 he left office with the highest approval rating of any president since Franklin Roosevelt.”
I apologize. I was full of shit. Reagan did arms for hostages deals for many many years and I was lying about it and searching for sources that don’t deny it, they just say that congress can’t find enough evidence to indict a popular president.
Big surprise. I am so full of crap.
Pretty obviously, the post above isn’t from Puddybud, and the imposter is someone from the liberal/progressive side of the conversation.
Folks, our arguments stand up well enough on their own. Goldy doesn’t put many restrictions on posters here, but one that he has asked us to comply with is that we don’t impersonate other posters.
The wingnuts would love to stop the discussions on this board. We shouldn’t help them do it.
The worst thing about that post is that the information it contains is pertinent to the discussion and rather interesting. If it were posted on its own, it would have been a pretty good post.
John Barelli: Mr Scratchy Voice will not erase posts from libtards who hijack righty names.
He did out JCH for posting as PelletHead. I doubt he’ll admit who it was. Is Mr Scratchy voice an honest person? – NEGATIVE!
Clueless: Your side claims the 8 asst US attnys were fired for political reasons. Yet your side used political reasons to stop the Fox ambassadorial appointment.
You can’t have it both ways.
Oops… yes you can if you are donk moby trolls!
I have not been taken apart on Pelosi and Logan. Why did the WaPo and USA Today write about it? You are not too well read are you Clueless?
John Barelli: These ladies friends of yours?
http://www.dallasnews.com/shar.....0a267.html
Puddybud:
We’ll see. I e-mailed him and asked him to look into the matter.
Perhaps if you were to send a polite e-mail identifying imposter posts and asking him to remove them, you might be surprised at his response. He doesn’t spend every waking moment reading this blog or monitoring his e-mail, but it wouldn’t surprise me to see that post vanish.
Although when making the request, you might want to use a bit more polite tone. I know that when someone sends me a request filled with insults, I tend to be somewhat slower about accomodating them. Just human nature.
John was this your psychologist? Maybe it was Clueless’? Heck, he’s old enough to be PelletHead’s?
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/arti.....48T613.DTL
Notice he’s from Pelosi Country. And notice a Moonbat! judge slashes his bail?
Yet your side used political reasons to stop the Fox ambassadorial appointment.
OH CRY ME A RIVER PB!!! THAT GUY IS A SCUMBAG LIKE BOLTON AND HE’LL GET HIS JOB JUST LIKE BOLTON DID. THE NERVE THAT ASSWIPE HAD TO PRAISE JOHN KERRY IN PUBLIC WITH A SHIT EATING GRIN ON HIS LYING FACE.
I have not been taken apart on Pelosi and Logan. Why did the WaPo and USA Today write about it?
DREAM ON PUDDYLOSER! THE WAPO EDITORAL BOARD WROTE ON IT BECAUSE THEY’RE A WSJ EDITORIAL PAGE WANNABE AND USATODAY PLAYS BOTH SIDES OF THE FENCE!
YOU’RE SO F’ING STUPID!!!
John, that’s crap. As soon as PelletHead complained about the doppelganger he removed it.
But thanks for the concern.
Me nicely emailing Mr Scratchy Voice. Come on. He personally outed me on this board! He bragged about it. Honesty? – NEGATIVE!
Ahhh Clueless: Your true colors shine through again. First you claim I don’t use libtard MSM. When I do use libtard MSM, they are fence sitters or wannabees.
Allen Neuharth was NEVER a conservative! He created the USA Today paper.
WaPo? You use them too.
Such a sieve-like argument from the king of sieves Mr. Clueless
He personally outed me on this board! He bragged about it.
IF ANYONE DESERVED IT, IT WAS YOU!! LIAR! FRAUD! PHONY!!!
AND SHOW US WHERE HE BRAGGED ABOUT IT! THAT’S PROBABLY BULLSHIT TOO.
Puddybud (at 10:39)
Nope. Yours?
Seriously, they sound like folks looking to grab some headlines, although the Dallas Police should probably keep an eye on them.
Gotta go.
When I do use libtard MSM, they are fence sitters or wannabees.
USE THE MSM ALL YOU WANT PUDDYLOSER. AS LONG AS YOU’RE WEDDED TO THE RIGHT-WING’S LOSING AGENDA AND USING THEIR LOSING TACTICS YOU’RE GOING THE SAME PLACE THEY ARE – NOWHERE!!!
Clueless: You who still can’t find Headlice Lucy’s comments now I have to find Mr Scratchy Voice’s comments too?
Wrong bud. I don’t do your DD. You need to figure out simple equations.
If Mr Scratchy Voice is honest – Negative – he’d post what he said. I’m sure christmasghost who jumped all over him for his comments remembers. Don’t worry ‘ghost I don’t need your help. Mr Clueless should be known as Mr Helpless.
Clueless I have to go now so keep playing with yourself. Better yet, invite Mr Stupid so he can “do” your wife so you can watch and that’ll keep you occupied while I’m gone.
Time to whip out the chain saw. Time to massacre some trees!
Clueless look up the latest congressional approval rating. When you claim GWB is in the toilet, see where the donkocraps are!
oops… I forgot when Mr Stupid does your wife, it’s be a less than a minute excursion in futility. But you should invite him over anyway. You two are cut from the same cloth!
SHOW ME FOOL!! YOU’RE AFRAID CUZ’ IT’S BULLSHIT. YOU’VE SAVED HL’S REMARKS TO TROT OUT WHEN YOU FEEL LIKE IT, BUT YOU WON’T BRING OUT GOLDY’S.
SO UNTIL YOU DO – I CALL BULLSHIT.
AS FOR YOUR LITTLE TREE HUNTING ERRAND, GOOD RIDDANCE!! FOR NOW AT LEAST!
THIS BLOWHARD BRAGS ABOUT HIS “GOOGLE SKILLS” AND THEN WON’T BACK UP HIS BULLSHIT!
HE’S AFRAID TO SINK ANY LOWER THEN HE ALREADY HAS!!
CLueless I have two words for you
F Y!
Is that clear enough? I kept headlice’s words cuz they are nasty.
ADN YOU STILL DIDN”T FIND THEM DID YOU Mr Helpless Clueless?
I didn’t keep Mr Scratch Voice’s words because ‘ghost immediately jumped all over him. It was a pretty sight!
So do your damned due duiligence or STFU
Sink lower than I have, you have no argument save: Look at what the country voted November 7th. Your single claim to “fame”.
That’s all you have in your repertoire. I deliver polls, news and my opinion. You check Kos, MM, Moore, etc. to see what to think.
Even JSA says I make him think at times.
No one considers that of you. You and Mr Stupid are from the same Mommy/Daddy.
YOU WON’T ANSWER PUDDYBUD!!!! WHERE DID HL CALL YOU THE “N” WORD? wHERE DID HL SAY BLACK FOLKS WERE INFERIOR TO WHITE FOLKS OR ANY BULLSHIT LIKE THAT?
LIKE I SAID BEFORE. HE REACTED TO YOU PLAYING THE RACE CARD!! HE REACTED IN THE WRONG WAY PLAYING INTO YOUR HANDS.
MTR CALLED SEATTLEJEW TWO SLURS AND YOU IGNORED THAT!!! TO SEATTLEJEW’S CREDIT, HE JUST IGNORED MTR!!! YOU ON THE OTHER HAND HAVE PLAYED IT UP FOR ALL IT’S WORTH!!
YOU WERE PLAYING AS MWS FOR AT LEAST A FREAKING YEAR BEFORE GOLDY OUTED YOU!!! HELL YOU AND MWS WERE HAVING “CONVERSATIONS”. TOTAL INSANITY!!! LIAR, FRAUD, PHONY AND NUTCASE TO BOOT!!!
YOU QUOTE THE SAME BULLSHIT ARGUMENTS AS RIGHT WING BULLSHIT SITES. THOSE SITES TWIST THE MSM TO THEIR PURPOSES. PERIOD END OF STORY!!!
PudWax:
What Syria does is state sponsored terrorism. What we do in Iran with former Taliban members is “foreign policy”.
Great way to win hearts and minds!Viewing the world through your wingnut monocle is getting this country nowhere fast.
You gripe about “Hollywood Types” but your whole political philosophy is based on sophomoric Hollywood westerns from the 50’s.
You guys need to grow up.
re 129: You make me think that public education fails with some people.
You need to pay more attention so you can pass the Fuhrer sponsored tests.
Headlice: Your side is the Fascists. Your side wants to take away guns like Hitler in 1931. It’s here today in 2007.
Democrats – Fascists of the New World Order!
Headlice: What happened to Poonbat? You retired him too?
Headlice wrote: What we do in Iran with former Taliban members is “foreign policy”.
Yes, what the Donkocrapic Party does in Iran (Sean Penn for example) is spot on!
Clueless: Aww little man has no Internet skills. Run along to your wife. She has the big nipple bottle waiting for you after Mr Stupid finishes!
Then Clueless answer your own questions. GBS called Headlice on it. He even said he did last week (item missed by your fermented cranial orifice).
Find it.
Next Clueless, you want me to yell at MTRK for his Seattle Jew Remark when you don’t call Headlice (of course you can’t find it). Even when GBS mentions he found it distateful you still can’t find it or agree with GBS. When you call for Headlice to apologize and HEadlice apologizes I will THINK about telling MTRK about his comments.
At least I respect GBS. You, you’re Mr Helpless Clueless.
Clueless, I can see your kids in school.
Teacher: “XXXXXXX Clueless what is the answer to the problem?”
XXXXXXX Clueless: “Duh, I don’t know.”
Kid in the back: “Man you’re Clueless”.
Class laughs!
Until then Clueless…
PUDDYBUD: I FOUND HL’S TACTICS DISTASTEFUL AS WELL. YOU WON’T ANSWER MY QUESTIONS BECAUSE YOU ARE AFRAID!
DID HL CALL YOU THE “N” WORD OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT?
NOW YOU WANT ME TO TAKE ORDERS FROM YOU SO YOU’LL “THINK” ABOUT IT?
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!
WHEN HELL FREEZES OVER I’LL “THINK” ABOUT IT!!!!
PUDDYBUD: SO YOU HAVE NO ARGUMENT AND YOU’RE SUCH A LOSER YOU MAKE FUN OF MY KIDS!
HOW LOW CAN YOU GO…
LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING. MY OLDEST STARTED RECOGNIZING WRITTEN SPEECH AT 3 YEARS OLD. WE COULD WRITE STUFF ON A BLACKBOARD AND HE COULD READ IT BACK TO US. HIS PRESCHOOL TEACHER HAD HIM READ KIDDIE BOOKS ALOUD TO HIS CLASS.
MY YOUNGEST STARTED READING THE SAME TIME I DID – ABOUT THE SECOND HALF OF 1ST GRADE.
THEY BOTH ATTEND SEATTLE PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND ARE DOING FINE.
SO F Y TO YOU TOO – LOSER!!!
Clueless: No I used Mr Stupid humor. We are allowed cuz this is a libtard open site. You can’t take Mr Stupid humor? Thin skinned person you are.
Clueless, I told you when Headlice officially apologizes I WILL consider chastising MTRK.
So the ball is in Headlice’s court! Maybe you should blog him directly.
Oh yeah Clueless, you are always telling me what to do and now you get JAUNDICE when the tables are turned?
When you look up the actual words used by Headlice, you will answer your own question. Can you dig it? I DON’T TAKE ORDERS FROM YOU. You are the ONE TRICK pony
Waaaaaa haaaaaa haaaaaa HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR!
Clueless: Keep using caps you blowhard!
Clueless: You never cease to amaze me. So don’t keep asking me to do your due diligence. I don’t take orders from you. Search the Internet. Ask the fifth lead horseASS headlice. He can tell you EXACTLY what he called me over those few weeks.
Remember he knows what it like to be around blacks 24/7!
BTW Clueless my older is on the deans’ list at UW!
my older is on the deans’ list at UW!
SO YOUR OLDEST IS DOING JUST FINE – AT A “MOONBATIC” SCHOOL!
THAT’S GREAT PUDDY! FANTASTIC. JUST DON’T LET THIS LITTLE SECRET OUT OVER AT (UN)SP OR OTHER “WINGNATIC” ENVIRONS!!
LMAO!!!
PUDDY THIS NONSENSE ABOUT HL IS NEITHER HERE NOR THERE.
YOUR WINGNUT PAL MTR CALLED SEATTLEJEW A COUPLE OF SLURS. YOU ARE SILENT. YOU ARE A HYPOCRITE. YOU’VE SAID CONSERVATIVES LOVE JEWS AND PEOPLE LIKE ME HATE JEWS.
PROBABLY WHAT YOU MEANT TO SAY IS THAT CONSERVATIVES LIKE YOU LOVE ONLY “WINGNATIC” JEWS. SO GOLDY IS OUT. SEATTLEJEW IS OUT. ANY JEW WHO CALLS FOR A PALESTINIAN STATE IS OUT, ETC.
SO LET’S SEE YOUR CONVICTIONS BUT WE’RE NOT GOING TO SEE THEM BECAUSE THAT’D MEAN YOU’RE A LOSER.
END OF STORY!!!!
AND PUDDY WHAT IS YOUR OLDEST DOING AT A “MOONBATIC” SCHOOL? DIDN’T YOU TELL HIM OR HER THAT’S THERE’S A HOLY STRUGGLE TO PREVENT SHARIA LAW IN THE USA OVER IN IRAQ?
JUST THINK. YOUR OLDEST CAN DON THE UNIFORM, PUT THE HAND ON BIBLE AND SWEAR TO DEFEND THE CHIMPANZEE YOU VOTED TWICE FOR!
OH EXCUSE ME! I MEANT DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE USA FROM SHARIA LAW!!!
LMAO!!!