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So, today is the impeachment vote

And by now it seems rather rote

If you think they have some gall

Well, give them a call.

Or at least you can write them a note.

Comments

  2. 2

    So who’d like to send us all to look at another Emerson poll today?

    Anyone? Helooooo? Anyone? (this thing on?)

  3. 3

    The senator I’d most like to see disrobed.

    Sen. Kyrsten Sinema Stands And Applauds Tax Cuts Amid Sitting Democrats

    Sen. Kyrsten Sinema of Arizona broke from her Democratic colleagues by giving a standing ovation for “opportunity zones” during President Trump’s State of the Union address Tuesday. While the majority of Democrats sat as Trump commended Sen. Tim Scott, R-S.C., for his work on opportunity zones, Sinema stood and applauded her colleague.

    Opportunity zones were created in tandem with the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. They provide tax advantages for certain investments in lower income areas.

    https://thefederalist.com/2020/02/04/sen-kyrsten-sinema-stands-and-applauds-tax-cuts-amid-sitting-democrats/

    I was looking at opportunity zones in the south Snohomish Couny area. There’s one in the vicinity of the Paine Field airport. Within it, the average resident income is, like, $55k. How is that a zone of poor residents?

    Anyway, back to Senator Sinema. I don’t care how she votes later today. It’s nice to see someone on the Democrat side of the aisle in addition to Joe Manchin who can credibly be referred to as “moderate”. Y’all have claimed that people like that have been kicked out of the Democrat party. Bragged about it, even.

    Nice to know y’all didn’t finish the job.

  4. 4

    You must have meant writing campaign ads over ripped paper.

    Goldy Retweeted

    Susie Meister✔
    @susie_meister

    The people who shrugged at caging kids, mocking the disabled, and defaming Gold Star families are now clutching their pearls over ripped paper.

    1h

    The Democrat party is self-destructing before your very eyes, and you’re defending childish behavior by your party’s leader. Isn’t that what you are alleging of me?

  5. 5

    So who’d like to send us all to look at finalized Iowa caucus results this morning?

    Anyone? Helooooo? Anyone? (this thing on?)

  7. 7

    Can’t make this shit up.

    Liz Warren Finishes In 5th Place In Pocahontas County, Iowa

    Warren has claimed throughout her academic career that she has Cherokee ancestry. She listed herself as “Native American” on a Texas state bar registration form in April 1986 and as a minority in the Association of American Law Schools directory from 1986 to 1994.

    She taught at Harvard Law School before she became a politician, and as recently as 1996, the school referred to her as Harvard Law School’s only Native American professor.

    https://dailycaller.com/2020/02/05/liz-warren-iowa-caucus-pocahontas/

    So unlikable.

  8. 8

    Madam Speaker really got under the dotard’s skin last night, eh?

    Nothing like a Twitter meltdown after the State of The Union to really drive home the message.

  9. 9

    Joe Manchin who can credibly be referred to as “moderate”

    Not sure I’d call Joe a moderate, I think I’d call him a Repuke.

  10. 10

    @ 8

    I went onto Trump’s thread and found this.

    Donald J. Trump Retweeted
    ErinKateSta
    @DrErinKateStair
    ·
    6h
    That was weak, Nancy. I wish she held her cool. Plays into every female stereotype.
    #PelosiTantrum

    Probably not what you were referring to, but it does explain why YLB liked it so much.

  11. 11

    The Democrat party is self-destructing before your very eyes, and you’re defending childish behavior by your party’s leader. Isn’t that what you are alleging of me?

    Typically, as like now, I read the comments in order and respond that way to….so, maybe this is addressed above by someone else, but if not does someone want to tell Bob that he’s looking at himself and his Party in the mirror? Or do you think he looks in the mirror and sees a horse? Both?

  12. 12

    I’ve gotcher Iowa results right here:

    Ronna McDaniel
    @GOPChairwoman
    ·
    Feb 3
    Congratulations to
    @realDonaldTrump
    for officially breaking the turnout record for an incumbent president in the #IACaucus!

    Hey libbies! Howdja do on turnout?

  13. 13

    Isn’t that what you are alleging of me?

    Allege? No, alleging. You’ve been doing it, along with treasonous other behavior, for the past 3 years.

  14. 14

    Turns out turnout was a problem for y’all.

    In other words: Democrats were counting on Barack Obama-levels of enthusiasm. They got Hillary Clinton numbers, instead.

    Looking at the low turnout estimate in Des Moines late Monday night, an adviser to one candidate said simply, “Wow.”

    Getting Hillary Clinton anything is not a good look.

  15. 15

    Hey libbies! Howdja do on turnout?

    Oddly enough, if a majority of aging, liver spotted, per-diabetic, non-college-educated rural white folks are unenthused about national politics right now, I’m cool with it.
    Very cool.

  18. 18

    @ 15

    …if a majority of aging, liver spotted, per-diabetic, non-college-educated rural white folks are unenthused about national politics right now, I’m cool with it.

    That really isn’t your problem, QoS McHillbilly.

    This is your problem:

    Entrance polls showed first-time caucus-goers down this year, to about one-third of all caucus-goers. That fell lower not only than 2008, when nearly 60 percent of caucus-goers were first-time participants, but also 2016.

    It was a deflating acknowledgment for a party that is desperate to register and turn out first-time voters in the fall.

    Maybe they’ll get excited about Mayor Cheat sometime down the road. But Mayor Cheat will be taken out by The DNCBloomberg.

    Not much excitement about another rich white guy in his 70s, is there?

  19. 19

    “… and you’re defending childish behavior by your party’s leader. Isn’t that what you are alleging of me?”

    Not everything is about you, bot-farm.
    Childish behavior is however the least is what we have ably proven* about your party’s leader:
    https://youtu.be/uNXgjnBpxGI

    You’ll never outrun the guy.

    *Not hard to prove. Obviously.

  20. 20

    I should rephrase @ 18 my description of Bloomberg.

    I meant short, rich white guy in his 70s.

    Pretty soon Trump will be referring to Mini-Mike as Boxboy.

  21. 21

    @ 19

    So vote him out.

    You’ll need to do something very different from what you are doing so far. You know that by now.

  22. 22

    Entrance polls showed first-time caucus-goers down this year, to about one-third of all caucus-goers. That fell lower not only than 2008, when nearly 60 percent of caucus-goers were first-time participants, but also 2016.

    In 91% white Iowa where more than two thirds of voting age population is over 40. If you were doing the job Putin pays you to do not a single one of ’em would have turned out.

  25. 25

    @21 “So vote him out.”

    And then, your tribe says, it will be 1860 all over again.

    So, Dumbfuck, the question is: Will you accept the election legitimate if we do? Will you let a Democrat govern?

    Whatever your answer, the GOP’s response is clear: Not a fucking chance.

    Elections don’t matter to Republicans anymore. They’ve already imposed a rightwing dictatorship in their minds — to hell with the voters if they don’t agree to it — and for them, it’s now only a matter of implementation. Implementing with guns, if necessary.*

    * That’s not me saying that; that’s Republicans saying that. I’m just stating what they said.

  26. 26

    23,
    The only one claiming he’s innocent is the RapeHero himself. Occasionally kicking Susan Collins in the teeth as he does so.

    By now the GOP have already got Rudy circulating an RFP to a few dozen foreign dictatorships seeking to trade weapons systems for election hacking.

    It’s Every Republican You Know, including the ones who pretend to be EEN-DEE-PEN-DUNCE.

  27. 27

    “Regardless of your answer, the GOP’s answer will be: Not a fucking chance.”

    And as he is doing right now and always has, bot-farm will back their play. You have their answer. You have his answer. You’ve had it all along.

  30. 30

    Susan Collins is now officially a national joke.

    “After much hemming and hawing, … Collins announced on Tuesday that she would vote to acquit President Donald Trump ….

    “‘I do not believe the House has met its burden that the President’s conduct, however flawed, warrants the extreme step of immediate removal from office,’ Collins said in a speech on the Senate floor. … [‘blah blah blah’].”

    “Which, OK. Collins’ argument … boils down to this: Sure, what Trump did isn’t great — and I wouldn’t have done it. But inappropriate isn’t the same thing as impeachable. Had Collins left it there, she would have been fine. But she didn’t leave it there. … Collins said ‘I believe that the President has learned from this case’ and that Trump ‘will be much more cautious in the future.’ HA HA HA.”

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/05/politics/susan-collins-trump-impeachment/index.html

    This is the naivete of a 6-year-old. Or someone in pathological denial. Or a blimp-sized liar.

    I’m inclined to opt for the latter. Collins has never been the so-called “moderate” she pretends to be. She’s one of McConnell’s tin soldiers, marching to his orders; always has been, always will be. We’ll soon find out whether this is okay with the Maine voters she pretends to represent.

    https://www.senatemajority.com/polls/2020/new-maine-polling-on-susan-collins-and-impeachment/

    Yes, he is guilty of abusing power of his office……. 53
    No, he is not guilty of this……………………………. 40
    Not sure …………………………………………….. 7

    When Susan Collins takes positions on controversial issues, do you think she generally (a) makes a principled decision about what’s best for the country and Maine, or (b) makes a political decision about what’s the best for her and least risky politically?

    (a) Makes a principled decision…… 37
    (b) Makes a political decision……… 50
    Both equally ………………… 8
    Not sure ……………………………. 5

    If Susan Collins votes to find President Trump not guilty in the impeachment trial, do you think she will vote that way (a) because she actually believes Trump did not commit an impeachable offense, or (b) because she is following a party line and doing what she thinks is in her own best political interest?

    (a) Believes Trump did not commit an impeachable offense … 39
    (b) Following a party line/doing what’s in her political interest … 51
    Not sure ………………………………………………………….. 10

  32. 32

    That leaves two “undecided” senators — Manchin and Sinema, both Democrats. If they vote for removal, then …

    No Democratic votes for acquittal.
    At least one Republican vote for removal.

    … and POOF! go Trump’s “bipartisan” talking points, and his acquittal will look exactly like the partisan hackjob it is.

  34. 34

    No Comment, None Necessary, Dep’t …

    “A high school principal has publicly apologized after a Facebook post she wrote surfaced suggesting that Kobe Bryant deserved to die in the helicopter crash that killed him and eight others on Jan. 26.

    “Liza Sejkora, principal of Camas High School in Camas, Washington, has found herself embroiled in controversy after she wrote a Facebook post the day that Kobe Bryant died that said: ‘Not gonna lie. Seems to me that karma caught up with a rapist today,’ according to a screen grab of the post that made the rounds among students within the Camas community over the past week and was obtained by ABC News’ Portland affiliate station KATU. Sejkora confirmed that the post was indeed hers.

    “Sejkora, who has been the principal at Camas High School for the past three years, admits that it was only last year when she counseled staff and students at the school about being careful about posting online and how it could adversely affect your life.”

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/high-school-principal-apologizes-suggesting-kobe-bryant-deserved/story?id=68770374

    (I posted this to troll Doctor Dumbfuck, now I’ll sit back and wait … )

  35. 35

    Dow +450 at noon.

    Anybody still wanna believe a Democratic win in November could take down this market? I wouldn’t bet on it.

  37. 37

    Breaking news — Manchin and Sinema will vote for removal.

    There will be NO Democratic votes for acquittal.

  38. 38

    I can’t really blame Biden for not taking Iowa seriously. The temptation must be incredibly overpowering. But it wasn’t for lack of money or backing. Still, Biden put a pre-schooler in charge of his state field ops – a pre-schooler preoccupied with planning her wedding to a Bloomberg capo no less.

    Biden does not take ground game seriously. He does not think these people make a difference. That should be very concerning to Democrats.

  39. 39

    Assuming Romney will be the only GOP senator to break ranks with his party, the final verdict will be:

    Trump — acquitted but not exonerated; unleashed and more dangerous than ever

    Collins — gutless
    Murkowski — gutless
    Gardner — gutless
    Alexander — apathetic
    The rest of the GOP senators — partisan, obeisant, unpatriotic, unprincipled, cowardly to the core

  40. 40

    I can’t stand that orange pos…

    Now would I rather have the black guy???

    oohh uuuhh I don’t know if I can go there.

  41. 41

    Traitorous:

    Steve Guest
    @SteveGuest

    GALLUP: Nearly six in 10 Americans (59%) now say they are better off financially than they were a year ago, up from 50% last year.

    #KeepAmericaGreat
    5:59 AM · Feb 5, 2020

  44. 44

    “…is hereby acquitted…”

    I know the “bi-partisan” feeling..

    Reminds me of the time I shared the hot tub with Ken Starr and Dersh at Epstein’s place.

  46. 46

    All was not lost in @ 7 Pochahontas County for Senator Warren.

    She was awarded 1/1024 delegate for her fifth-place finish.

  49. 49

    Some credit to Willard.

    Romney is the first U.S. Senator in history to vote to remove a president from his own party.

  50. 50

    After more than two years of listening to “diehard Trump supporters” like bot-farm endlessly crying and pouting about dirty dirty Republicans in the FBI following the orders of the dirty dirty Republican Attorney General and using secret FISA courts to spy on Russian spies now we we are watching an entire Congress filled with Republicans about to renew the secret FISA courts and…

    … crickets.

    It’s almost like they aren’t sincere about any of this shit.

  51. 51

    @100 It’s a game.

    Not when you say it, Roger. Only when dumbfuck says it, and says it with an apology. Until he does that, and does it sincerely, this is no longer a fucking game. If Dr. Robert Hawkins, if that’s who he really is, does apologize, I’ll accept it. It’s only the doubt that he is who Lib Sci said he is that has saved him from the ass-kicking of his life and a swimming lesson in the cold waters of Puget Sound.

    You all should know by now that I have friended several trolls, including Puddy, Max, the HNMT and to some extent, even Marvin. I also have very little respect for Goldy and his Christian bashing BS and would still love to smack the pussified liberal Daddy Love around for just kicks. And yet I’m far more forgiving than Elijah comes off as, that’s for sure.

    The only person I know who has friended a troll besides myself would be you Roger. Didn’t you even go to Puddy’s wedding or something like that?

  52. 52

    Hell, I was even pissed off at Darryl and his BS excuse for banning Marvin. What horseshit that was. Darryl banned Marvin because he kept posting links to his damning student reviews, which he probably fucking deserved.

  53. 53

    From an Email from Team Pete

    Based on the rules of the Iowa Caucuses, a candidate must have the support of at least 15% of everyone at a caucus in order to be viable and be eligible to win delegates. One thing that has stood out to us is that Pete was viable in almost 88% of precincts. That means he has built the broadest coalition.

  54. 54

    51,
    I’m absolutely not forgiving, that’s for sure.
    This thing of theirs has gone to damn far. I really don’t care about why, or wherefore. Lives are at stake. And yet I wish no harm should come to any of these people, including bot-farm.

    I just want them permanently removed from civic life. I want to see their votes and voices liquidated. Other than that, I could care less about any of them except insofar as any of them are available to hold the elevator for me – which near as I can tell is all any of them are qualified to do anymore.

  55. 55

    @52 I never liked Darryl’s reasons for putting my comments under review before releasing them, 2 days later after new comment threads were opened.

    Sorry Darryl, just piling on.

    I also felt like he was taking a
    It a bit personally that I was attacking Heterosexuals And it made meal feel like he was a homophobe

  56. 56

    @46 Racist Incel.
    I know strong women scare the piss out of you, but she’s in currently in third place in Iowa.
    86% reporting, Delegate count.
    Pete Buttigieg 11
    Bernie Sanders 11
    Elizabeth Warren 5
    Joe Biden 0
    Amy Klobuchar 0
    Tulsi Gabbard 0

  57. 57

    “Sorry Darryl, just piling on.”

    WTF? I can’t believe he would do that to you! I f I’d have kown, I’d have said something. That was not right. Darryl should be fucking removed, The blog is dead but for the comment section. Carl and Darryl just mail it in these days. Goldy’s too busy sucking shit out of a billionaire’s asshole to even post anymore. Some of the comments like Elijah, Roger and others should given the reigns.

    And don’t get me going on Carl. His bus rider rants are fucking pathetic. he lost my respect long ago.

    We’ve had our differences, but I’m with you, Gman.

  58. 58

    Trump himself has said he did it. His lawyers have said he did it. Everyone around him said he did it. The mountain of verified evidence said he did it.
    Republicans in the Senate trial said he did it.

    53 Senators said they’re fine with this.

    There was a bipartisan vote for conviction and a purely partisan vote for acquittal

    See you in November.

  59. 59

    @54 We’re on the same page, Elijah. Right now, I’m even more unforgiving that you are, and I respect you very much for being that way. Civil war has already begun, our democracy is at stake, but it’s only a war or words. So far. I’m only surprised Roger doesn’t realize that yet.

    Dumbfuck is hopeless. He needs to get his act together or he’s the enemy.

    I take it back, I’ll forgive any conservative who is on the right side of history. There’s too much at stake. We need to beat back these fascist traitors together. But there’s not very many decent conservatives, and that’s sad.

    Dumbfuck has a chance to be such a person, but I’ve come to believe he’s just a snide fascist traitor. I’ll listen if he cares to prove me wrong, but he’s never shown us he can do it. Until he can, that’s all he is, a snide fascist traitor who revels in the needless deaths of black children.

  60. 60

    “Racist Incel.”

    The real Dr. Hawkins looks like he’s never seen a pussy except in x-ray images. But he does look like the type to get it up the ass by a horse, that’s for sure.

  61. 61

    @56 I’m liking Pete. I never did like Biden, ever, but at least he isn’t a fucking traitor, so I’d vote for him anyway. I’ve often criticized Obama here at HA for both ACA and Syria.

  62. 62

    And sure, Hillary’s got a cackling laugh, but she is competent and isn’t a traitor. So I voted for her because I love American democracy more than I despise her laugh.

  63. 63

    I see dumbfuck ran away. Call me surprised. Not only is he a fascist traitor, he’s a fucking coward. But who here didn’t already know that?

  64. 64

    59,
    “Dumbfuck is hopeless. He needs to get his act together or he’s the enemy.”

    Of America? He’s just the enemy, period.

    Think about it. If some person from some other country stood at a point of entry to the US and made the declarations that bot-farm has made over the last three years they’d be denied entry, much less citizenship and the right to vote. These people really have declared their opposition to the rule of law and the constitution.

    To wit, and in point of fact they are categorically unwilling to absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty. Moreover, and as events in the Senate today amply demonstrate they are unwilling to support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America. Nor are they willing to bear true faith and allegiance to the constitution.

    It’s pretty clear people like that should not be here.

    But it doesn’t stop there. Bot-farm and his ilk have repeatedly and consistently over the past three years set out to attack and do injury to the Constitution and laws of the United States of America on behalf of both a lawless president but also on behalf of at least one foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty.

    They are the enemy. It doesn’t matter why. It doesn’t matter that the march of globalization made their 10th-grade educated butt hurt, or that seeing a black family eat healthy food while listening to Nina Simone in the White House gave them a diminished sense speshulness. We’re past that. Fuck Hillbilly Elegy and the New York Times. They can assign a special correspondent to every single aging white racist in middle America and it won’t redeem a single goddam one of them or bring them back into the American fold.

    They just aren’t part of America any more.

  66. 66

    @50 “It’s almost like they aren’t sincere about any of this shit.”

    HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR!!!!

    Are you trying to crack my ribs? Go easy on the old rabbit. My bones are brittle.

  67. 67

    Remember y’all, it’s FUCK YOUR FEELINGS.

    Not sure my feelings got hurt, but I think I have to go see an eye doctor after looking at them two.

  68. 68

    It might come down to one thing and that is RESIST! Don’t let them know you have feelings. Let them know that THEY aren’t getting away with it without a fight. And bring to the fight everything you have.

  69. 69

    @51 I didn’t “friend” Puddy. I met him once at SeattleJew’s house for about 30 seconds. I was arriving as he was leaving. Introductions, that’s all. He didn’t take a swing at me, and didn’t seem the like type who might. Very different from his online persona. I was polite. That was the only interaction I’ve ever had with Puddy. In retrospect, I don’t think he was nuts; I think he was playing. He saw it as a game.

    Over the years I’ve many times likened the HA comment threads to an Old West movie saloon brawl: When you crotch-kick somebody, or hit him with a chair, it’s all in good clean fun.

    Please do not post suspected names of trolls who have chosen to be anonymous, or make any attempt to identify them, no matter how deserving of being “outed” you feel they are.

    That’s a precedent I don’t want established on this blog. If we can do it to them, they can do it to me. That will make it much harder for me to ask Goldy or Darryl to banish Shortbus or anyone else for trying to “out” me, and that could persuade my Roger Rabbit character to disappear.

  70. 70

    https://www.wndu.com/content/news/Warsaw-woman-creates-Scrabble-quilt-for-Mayor-Pete-567600921.html

    I agree there shouldn’t be a bunch of the Mayor Pete quilts out there, they should be unique.

    But I’m always impressed with quilt work – I’d love to have her make me one (of any other kind that she can think of – it could be farmhouse for all I care – she’s the artist) and buy it from her and then she could split or give partial of her money to Mayor Pete. I know that kind of sounds stupid, but she should overprice them and then give that extra “over pricing” over to the campaign – a win win win situation for everyone.

  71. 71

    @54 I’ll settle for our side winning elections. I don’t want them holding the elevator door for me. They’d probably slam it shut on my cute cottontail.

  72. 72

    @55 You’re too defensive. Be proud of who you are, and make no apologies for what you are. Boosting yourself doesn’t require detracting from others. It’s true you stupid humans are an inferior species, but it’s not your fault you weren’t born a rabbit. You couldn’t choose your parents.

  73. 73

    @57 “We’ve had our differences”

    We wouldn’t be Democrats if we didn’t quarrel among ourselves. Look at the fucking Republicans. A crowd of toadies if there ever was one. Thank God we’re not like them.

  74. 74

    @59 ” I’m only surprised Roger doesn’t realize that yet.”

    Oh, but I do. These people have talked up civil war for years. The “cival war” umpire didn’t start it, he merely misspelled it. Ann Coulter wrote a book years ago that talked about “executing” liberals or putting us in “concentration camps.” Some asshole down in Federal Way (I forget his handle) repeated the same thing either on HA or Stefan’s now-extinct sucky little blog (I don’t recall now), and I went after him for it. This was the basis for my “Liberals must arm” mantra.

    I recognized something else, too: Except for a few hotheads on their fringes, they never intended to fight this civil war with bullets, having apparently learned a lesson from their ancestors’ experience. It’s underway, and they’re fighting it with voter suppression, dirty tricks, racial discrimination, propaganda, and now demagoguery and foreign subversion of our elections.

    America’s Civil War 2.0 is underway. Do not be deceived by the absence of gunfire. They’re saving that for last. I don’t think Coulter was kidding, nor do I think she’s an outlier; she gives voice to their aspirations, and that’s why her books and speeches sell so well. I do suspect, however, that she’s in it only for the money and doesn’t give a damn how it turns out.

  75. 75

    @65 Cuts both ways. I no longer care if their coal jobs go away, their communities rot, and their kids overdose. God helps those who help themselves, and if God can’t help them, it’s beyond my power also. The big chip they wear doesn’t exactly motivate me to want to.

  76. 76

    @65 @67 Those tee shirts sell well to people yearning to be ostracized from polite society. I would not shake hands with, say “hi, how are ya” to, engage in conversation with, or have anything to do with someone wearing one of those. I would shake my head and walk away.

  77. 77

    @72 Good advice Roger. I’m learning. Thanks. I tend to let things slide more so nowadays. Life is too short. Sure I’ll still get angry, but it’s not as constant and definitely a lot less. But never let your guard down and fight or resist when you have to.

    You can’t go forward if you get stuck in neutral or reverse. I’ve learned a lot over the last 5-6 years, but still haven’t learned enough; it’s been a transformation.

    I can forgive and forget. To not to, doesn’t move you forward.

    If you, or anyone, ever decides to visit NYC – I would suggest June when you can experience the longest and best Parade in NYC or any city. Who knows – maybe even Mayor Pete might be in attendance this year.

    The parade can be a bit crazy for some, but it really is one of the best parades.

  78. 78

    “White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham released a statement celebrating ‘the full vindication and exoneration’ of the president ….”

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry/live-blog/trump-impeachment-trial-senate-votes-articles-impeachment-n1130646/ncrd1131166#liveBlogHeader

    “Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., one of the president’s closest allies in the Senate, said in a statement Wednesday that ‘the cloud over the presidency has been removed.'”

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/trump-allies-revel-end-hoax-impeachment-democrats-say-vote-normalized-n1131186

    Uh, no.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/impeachment-vote-president-trump-andrew-mccarthy

    And that’s from the Fox’s mouth, not some “liberal” outlet.

  79. 79

    Meanwhile, Susan Collins walks back her earlier remarks:

    “On Wednesday, Collins told a reporter from Maine outlet WGME-TV that she used the wrong verb” when she said Trump has “learned a lesson” from his impeachment. “A better word, she decided, would have been [she] ‘hopes’ …” he has.

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/susan-collins-donald-trump-impeachment_n_5e3b2cd9c5b6b70886f96878

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: So Collins, after voting to “exonerate and vindicate” Trump, and “remove the cloud” hanging over him, now “hopes” for a better-behaved Trump in the future. Okay, boomer. (From one boomer to another).

  80. 80

    @79 she’s pathetic. But not as pathetic as anyone who votes for her. They have no standards.

  81. 81

    One year I went to the Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade with my brother and his wife, my father and sister, while Mom stayed at my apartment cooking the turkey and babysitting one of my nephews. We had Thanksgiving dinner in 400sf apartment.

    It was the most boring Parade I’ve ever been too. Bored out of my mind. To quite. It was like being in a church for 3 hours, but even more quite – I couldn’t wait to get back to my apartment where I could hear taxis beeping their horns and sirens of a fire engine or ambulance.

    At least if you watch it on tv you have the hosts narrating. In person all you do is watch them walk by waving. And the attendees, although they might be all smiley, the hardly make any noise, I can’t even remember if they clapped.

    In June – a ton of energy, music, cheering and loving.

  85. 85

    That’s a precedent I don’t want established on this blog.

    You either haven’t been paying attention, Roger, or you waited several years to object. Either of those is your problem, not mine.

    You see, that precedent has already been set. It was Lib Sci who posted it. That’s the only reason why I know it. Lib Sci was an ER physician at the time. So he’s not what I’d call an irresponsible man, and neither am I.

    I agree with Elijah. He is the enemy. I gave dumbfuck plenty of opportunities, more than he deserved, and it was clearly stated why he needed to show us otherwise, and he failed every goddamned time.

    Frankly, my dear, I don’t give a damn.

  86. 86

    I see dumbfuck is showing his true colors again, running away and hiding like a cowardly traitor. Figures.

  87. 87

    “I also felt like he was taking a
    It a bit personally that I was attacking Heterosexuals”

    It’s okay with me for you to attack that SOB Darryl and heterosexuals, including me. Heterosexuals have done a lot worse than attack LGBTQ with just words. You don’t need me to tell you about Matthew Shepard.

    Besides, if you think that’s bad, try reading what his students have to say about him. I’d post a link but the SOB would ban me too.

    That’s why Marvin was banned. Darryl simply couldn’t fucking deal with it. And he was so cowardly about it, he had to make shit up.

    Fuck Darryl. All he does anymore is post links he gathers through the week that are already irrelevant when he posts them. I haven’t paid any attention to his shit for years.

  88. 88

    Hell, just calling out Darryl for his lame ass posts is more of a display of courage, which it isn’t, than dumbfuck has shown us in all his years posting here.

  89. 89

    Steve. I understand you are angry. Current events are enraging. But lashing out and attacking like this will kill this site more effectively than anything in the racist incels wet dreams.
    Please either calm it down or stop reading this site.

  90. 90

    Let me add to Red that for anyone angry enough or better yet energized and enthusiastic enough to want to make a difference you can help with turnout in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania without having to go there, and you don’t have to give money.

    Trump in particular and Republicans in general will depend upon disillusionment of voters to depress turnout in those states. His combined margin of victory in those states was less than 78,000 votes. Overcoming margins like that with a well organized turnout effort is a very achievable goal. Plenty of people are already hard at work trying to help make sure that happens. Once very good example would be https://www.turnoutpac.org/ They are specifically targeting voters who did not cast a ballot in 2016 in the key battleground states.

    They are opening 60 field offices right now and hiring and training several thousand paid canvassers to fan out and directly contact over 7 million voters in those states who did not vote in 2016. They will depend on lots of volunteers to support them, including remote volunteers to make that happen.

    Other similar groups with similar structures and similar numeric goals are working to register college students, low income single moms, and the working poor in key battleground states. Still others are focusing on identifying and targeting the large number of voters who cast ballots for third party candidates in 2016.

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, it won’t matter who the Democratic Party nominates. Trolls and traitors will find whatever the fuck excuse they need to somehow blame them so they can once again vote for treason. But that coin has another side to it. It ultimately won’t matter to most progressive Real American voters who the Democratic Party nominates either. They want to see Trump gone just as much as any of us. They will vote for the Democratic Party nominee if we can just get them to come out and vote. And all it takes is 100,000 of them in the right states. That’s trivial.

  91. 91

    “Please either calm it down or stop reading this site.”

    No intentions to offend you, Red, but I don’t come here to please anybody and never have. But if you want to get rid of me, I will not be offended. I’m sure if you ask Carl or Darryl, they will gladly oblige. Banning isn’t an effective way of ridding someone from these threads anyway, but I would respect that and leave.

    (u)SP tried banning me, Pudge several times, but I ignored them.

    Personally, I think the site has already died because the blogging activity is non-existent compared to what it once was. It only lives on in the threads where no one new has shown up for a very long time.

  92. 92

    And all it takes is 100,000 of them in the right states.

    And yet it’s so hard to do, especially given the fascist’s need to deny Americans their right to vote.

  93. 93

    Try having lunch with Roger and getting a word in edgewise, even with two more present. They have the same problem. Been there, done that. Never again. I respect his views expressed here because, well, at least he doesn’t come off as being so damned disrespectful and insensitive to his surroundings. I had to raise my voice to get him to STFU to get a word in. Clueless that way.

  94. 94

    What’s this? Trouble in liberal paradise?

    Maybe if y’all libbies would shower once in awhile, when y’all got together for lunch an’ shit there might be a woman other than YLB in the mix.

  95. 95

    @ 91

    Personally, I think the site has already died because the blogging activity is non-existent compared to what it once was.

    Personally, I think the site is alive but not doing well.

    There will be very substantial, albeit perhaps brief, improvement when the Monte Carlo analyses start up. Traffic might be greater than in past quadrennial election years due to the fever libbies have to bounce Trump.

    But then what?

    Steve, one of the reasons the site is not doing well is that for months you have brought nothing to it other than calling me a traitor and linking me to Putin. I repeat, Steve, you have brought nothing to HA other than to make fun of me.

    Howz that working out for you? You will soon be consolidating yourself around a man in his late 70s, one who not long ago was a Republican, who chose to buy the Democrat nomination. You will do this in hopes of beating Trump, because for the second straight primary season the DNC will take down Bernie Sanders.

    In doing this, Steve, you will in all likelihood lose. Again.

    I keep pointing out the merit in some of the candidates who have not caught on. You keep responding that I am in bed with Putin.

    Steve, what value do you bring to HA? What useful commentary have you made in the last several months?

  96. 96

    From Obama to this, in only four short years:

    Chris Hayes✔
    @chrislhayes

    It’s amazing to me how much Bloomberg’s presence in the race is hurting Biden and helping Sanders. Bloomberg exists as this theoretical white knight for a certain group of Dem donors/moderates that gives them an escape valve from do-or-die Biden support.

    5:45 AM – Feb 6, 2020

    Y'all hate the 1% so much that you're cheering while one of the 0.000001% buys his way onto the top of your ticket.

    Think about that for a bit.

  97. 97

    It’s OK to be upset, Steve.

    It’s not OK to take it out on Darryl.

    Tom Perez✔
    @TomPerez

    Enough is enough. In light of the problems that have emerged in the implementation of the delegate selection plan and in order to assure public confidence in the results, I am calling on the Iowa Democratic Party to immediately begin a recanvass.

    9:18 AM – Feb 6, 2020

  98. 98

    92,
    It’s not that hard. It’s just that prior to Obama in 08 nobody was doing it. And nobody has done it since. Big mistake. Somewhat uniquely Clintonian mistake.

    Left all that territory unprotected and wide open for TeaBagger lunatics to run wild, amply supported by a handful of billionaires eager to use them to a) turn back the tide of voters seeking to level the political and economic playing field and just as important b) distract from their collapsing of the global economy for sport.

    There’s a pool of more than 3 million voters available in those three states to offset that meager 78,000 vote margin. Given the math and the available technology that’s a very, very achievable goal.

    Contrast that with the state of the GOP. Across the board their entire game is big media ad buys for attack ads. Ads that everyone will see and hear. Ads that “diehard Trump supporters” like bot-farm will relish. Ads that will be carefully scientifically crafted to spark outrage in all of us, one way or another. All over America “diehard Trump supporters” like bot-farm troll will chub up at the thought of all the “Leftist Tears”. But that well is already at capacity. They’ve been pumping it with everything they’ve got for ten years now.

    And in that time the Tea Party “rage” has become transformed into something uniquely Trumpian. There are no longer any achievable goals. Nothing real to look forward to. Immigration declined more under Obama (it’s the economy). Trump’s SOTU relies on empty lies. The people they need to reach, the “WWCMs” left ignored during the Clinton era, the people that formed the outer fringes of the Tea Party activism see little in Trumpism to attract them. Bannon and his calls for sweeping middle class tax cuts, manufacturing jobs programs, and “workforce empowerment zones” was driven out of the US with a whip and a chair.

    I’m not saying the Democrats can reach any of the TeaBaggers. But as meager and as limited as their margin may have been for Trump and the GOP in 2016, there’s plenty of evidence that it will not be repeated, much less increased or built upon. Bless their hearts, Trump and the GOP chose to consolidate when they could not afford to do so. Largely because to do anything else would have meant to defy their money.

    So where Democrats have a wind screen filled with nothing but blue sky in all directions, the GOP have their Flight 93 on auto pilot with the ground rapidly approaching.

  99. 99

    From Obama to this, in only four short years:

    From a “diehard Trump supporter” who over the course of eight wonderful years never tired of sharing Gomer-links to 4chan fabrications about secret “Whitey” tapes, moooslim orgies in the Lincoln bedroom, watermelon feasts in the Rose Garden, and TanSuit Outrage.

    Hey bot-farm, when you see Pelosi tearing that speech in half and your blood begins to boil, just remember the Christmas Tree Cock Rings, mmkay?

  100. 100

    @ 99

    In 2023 Trump will still be president. Pelosi will no longer be Speaker.

    I can wait.

  101. 101

    In 2023 Trump will be dead, Mike Pence will be leading Xtian men’s retreats in the Holy Land, and some millennial barista Bob abused while he was ordering coffee in 2017 but who since went on to complete a nursing program will be quietly moving his heart pills just far enough out of reach while nudging a cart wheel over his drip line.

  102. 102

    Also worth noting while bot-farm is patiently waiting for Nancy Pelosi to no longer be Speaker, that with nothing more than a simple gesture that took less than a second she transformed the media cycle and completely denied Trump the valorization and approval that he sought.

    She knows what she’s doing most of the time far better than the men around her. You may not agree with what she does. But you have to respect and admire the way she gets it done.

  103. 103

    I see all 7 venues for Franklin Graham’s upcoming U.K. tour canceled his bookings. The U.K. doesn’t have our free speech laws, and they’re private venues anyway, so they don’t have to give a closet Nazi a soapbox to spew his hate, and they’ve apparently decided not to.

    Good for them.

  104. 104

    A truly breathtaking spectacle at the White House this morning that really says all that needs to be said about the state of the GOP today.

    Hundreds of staffers, supporters, and GOP House and Senate members along with cabinet members and family assembled on short notice to give applause and ovation to the butt hurt dictator in a crowded East Room.
    Absolutely nutz.
    https://youtu.be/kLUktJbp2Ug

  105. 105

    @102 Trump taking on Pelosi is like a pimply Moldavan teenager trying his luck in a bull ring with a bull that has already dispatched numerous other aspiring matadors on Amateur Day. The crowds packed into the arena to watch this one.

  106. 106

    @100 “In 2023 Trump will still be president. Pelosi will no longer be Speaker.”

    If we’re going to make bold predictions today, even though she’s older than he is, I think he’ll drop dead before she does.

  107. 107

    @85 I didn’t say you posted it. My comment was prompted by your repeating it. That isn’t necessary and serves no useful purpose, and could endanger my anonymity. For my own protection, I’m asking everyone to refrain from “outing” anonymous posters. I’d be a hypocrite if I didn’t take that position.

  108. 108

    105,
    Moments after seeing Pelosi a MAGA Assistant Chief of Police in Alabama posted on his Facebook a call for The Speaker to be assassinated in road side bombing attack.

    Now his career is circling the drain and his department is being flooded with calls for an investigation. And the Secret Service isn’t even involved yet.

    Another #owngoal just like that idiotic performance in the East Room. And while the leader of the GOP sweats and swears and pounds the podium, and bot-farm feverishly mines 4chan for more Christmas Tree Cock Rings, Pelosi makes this shit look truly effortless. I don’t think they are winning at all.

  109. 109

    @ 105

    Oh, look! Roger Dumbfuck Rabbit tries his hand at posting like QoS McHillbilly!

    Imitation is the most pathetic form of flattery.

  110. 110

    @91 “Banning isn’t an effective way of ridding someone from these threads anyway.”

    It got rid of JCH and Shortbus.

  111. 111

    @109 Sincere flattery is when you cut and run. The fact you don’t reply to 90% of my ripostes has not gone unnoticed. You’re a dumbfuck, but even a kite knows not to take on a P-51.

  112. 112

    @94 We’re not repressed and inhibited like your crowd is. Having differences of opinion isn’t a capital offense in our gatherings. Let a Republican try getting a word in edgewise about what’s going on around him/her, and watch what happens to him/her. We’re not cowards like your crowd is, either. You’ve got exactly one who isn’t.

  113. 113

    @95 “the fever libbies have to bounce Trump”

    Most of us are too young to remember, but there was a time when millions of Americans had a “fever,” as you call it, to “bounce” another race-baiting demagogue who rose to power on bogus promises to make his country “great again.” It cost hundreds of thousands of their lives, but they felt it was worth it.

    You’re on the wrong side of this Trump fever, doc. You’re a carrier, not a cure. That’s surprising coming from someone who supposedly has medical smarts.

  114. 114

    @ 111

    The fact you don’t reply to 90% of my ripostes has not gone unnoticed.

    As you have nothing else to do, I am not surprised.

    If I respond to 10%, and people say I post too much, what might that say about your posting volume?

    90% of what you post isn’t worth my time. The lion’s share of the remaining 10% is worth my time only to document your falsity, Roger Dumbfuck Rabbit.

    You’re a clown.

  115. 115

    @96 We all know that if you had to choose between Bloomberg and Trump, you’d pick Trump, because he speaks for what you are.

  116. 116

    Hunter Biden might not have time to take down Creepy Joe, as Biden’s support is cratering nicely on its own.

    But since Trump was impeached for wanting Creepy Joe investigated, we might as well find out why that investigation was wanted, right?

    Treasury Department sent information on Hunter Biden to expanding GOP Senate inquiry

    Grassley and Johnson have sought to obtain some of the most sensitive and closely held documents in all of federal law enforcement — highly confidential suspicious activity reports (SARs) filed by financial institutions with FinCEN, an agency of the Treasury that helps to police money laundering.

    The senators’ requests to the Treasury have borne fruit…

    A source familiar with the matter said the Treasury began turning over materials less than two months after Grassley and Johnson wrote to FinCEN on Nov. 15, 2019, requesting any SARs and related documents filed by financial institutions regarding Hunter Biden, his associates, their businesses and clients.

  117. 117

    @93 Sounds like you had the bad luck to be present at the one DL I’ve attended in the last 5 years.

    Think about it this way. About that same time, Shortbus wanted to meet me there to discuss our differences. Imagine if he had and then smile.

  118. 118

    @ 115

    I’d pick Bloomberg. But that’s not the real question.

    Real question: Will Democrats?

  119. 119

    Why did Creepy Joe let his son launder money, and provide cover for him using the power of his vice presidency while it was ongoing?

    Why does Creepy Joe continue to insist that nobody is saying that Hunter did anything wrong? There are millions of Americans who are saying Hunter did something very, very wrong. And not just fucking the widowed wife of his brother.

  120. 120

    @116 The “fruit” you’re speaking of — production of a file — is a long way from an indictment.

    While we’re on that subject, how many Trump associates have been indicted, convicted, or entered pleas? I’ve lost count.

    Meanwhile, the number of Democrats who’ve actually been prosecuted by this “lock them up” regime is exactly zero.

    It’s surprising that Trump still has any credibility with his lynch mobs, having failed to provide them with any lynchings for over 3 years.

  121. 121

    @ 120

    Meanwhile, the number of Democrats who’ve actually been prosecuted by this “lock them up” regime is exactly zero.

    John Durham.

    I can wait.

  122. 122

    116,
    The full might of GOP corruption has arrayed itself against the guy who finished Iowa in forth with zero delegates.

    Congratulations, Dumbfuck. You and your party are well on track to defeat Hillary Clinton again.
    Squirrel!

  123. 123

    @118 As I’ve said before, I can’t visualize the Democratic grassroots flocking to a billionaire trying to buy the nomination to protect himself and his fellow billionaires from Sanders and Warren.

    But that said, I believe Democrats would turn out in November to vote for Bloomberg, because he’s not Trump.

    You should be able to understand this, given that — according to you — even you can’t stomach Trump.

  125. 125

    Which Democrat candidates have the easiest run to the center after receiving the nomination?

    1. Klobuchar
    2. Bloomberg

    Bloomberg has the money to make that run credibly, should he so choose. Klobuchar likely will not be running in two weeks, maybe in one week, although her Iowa results are surprisingly close to Creepy Joe’s.

    He is a little too authoritarian for my tastes. But there is one Democrat in the running whom I believe would preserve the majority of the stock market’s current gains.

    It’s Bloomberg.

    Roger Dumbfuck Rabbit @ 35 wrote something incredibly stupid:

    Anybody still wanna believe a Democratic win in November could take down this market? I wouldn’t bet on it.

    I think there’s one Democrat candidate who could pull that off. Hopefully.

    And I think that anyone who bets along with Roger Dumbfuck Rabbit on anything is a fucking fool. I’m talking to you, Newt.

  126. 126

    @ 124

    Horowitz gave teh Dumbfuck plenty of practice.

    Horowitz did not have subpoena authority.

  128. 128

    118,
    Remember when it was Tulsi? How’d she do in Iowa?

    And speaking of calling Democrats dirty socialists trying to nationalize the economy, while Teh Dumbfuck was on here complaining that we aren’t conservative enough for him, the same AG that he praised effusively this morning for going after imaginary servers in Ukraine was spending that precise moment proposing (with White House and GOP blessing) that the US taxpayer purchase a controlling stake in a mobile communications tech company.

  129. 129

    @125 “But there is one Democrat in the running whom I believe would preserve the majority of the stock market’s current gains.”

    This has just gotta be the #1 priority of the average Democratic primary voter or caucus goer, yes?

    The way you preserve these stock market gains is by continuing the financial engineering — Fed rate cuts and corporate buybacks — that created them in the first place.

    Faster economic growth had nothing to do with it, because there isn’t any. The economy is slowing, not accelerating. The rally that began in October is nothing more than multiple expansion. You know that as well as I do.

  130. 130

    @126 et al.: Get back to us when Durham actually produces something. Until then you’re just blowing hot air.

  131. 131

    Y’all hate the 1% so much that you’re…,

    Now that’s not true. No hate, just think they can do something more for the Country that they supposedly love and that unturned them to be the 1%, aside from not needing all that money.

  133. 133

    126,
    That isn’t true.
    You just stomped on another 4chan rake you idiot.

    Any IG has broad administrative subpoena duces tecum authority. So they can pull any document, record, or device from any agency and compel testimony from any employee relevant to those documents, records, or devices. But they have to loop in the AG (or DAG). A Special Counsel can impanel a GJ and issue them independently and keep them secret.
    So what you just said says far more about AG Barr and his desire to do this in secret than it does about Horowitz or the validity of any such inquiry.
    Keep waiting. Don’t forget to hold your breath.

  136. 136

    133,
    Just wanted to add so there’s no confusion, since that’s obviously what bot-farm neeeeeds right now.
    An IG could pull any State Department record from any era however distant in the past. DOD, DOJ, NSC, FISC, etc.
    The AG could if they cared to. Certainly the President could.
    That’s in the constitution.

    So if there was somehow some secret record of a former VP way back in time rigging some dirty scheme in a corrupt foreign country in order to help “fix” a future election on the off chance that a reality television star runs for office and hires one of Roger Stone’s coke party friends working as a third party bag-man for one of Putin’s hand puppets… Geeezus.
    The point is, however idiotic and fucked up lunatic this Giuliani conspiracy fever dream is, if it had ever existed Trump and Barr have the records already right now. They would have had them all along.

    The reason for hiring Rudes in the first place is… wait for it…
    …the records never existed because none of it ever happened.

    Ding! Ding! Ding! Duh!
    When you hear hoof beats, it’s probably horses, not zebras unicorns.

    Were any of the 4chan bullshit remotely true they’d already have enough documentation. Grassley and Johnson issuing subpoenas is a fucking press release and nothing more. BREADING NEWS: The DOJ and the White House have always had broad authority to investigate themselves.
    Wanting to is another matter.

    Interesting side note: While bot-farm and 4chan await the mighty Durham, Trump, exercising his article II powers, is actually accelerating the destruction of records in the National Archives.

  138. 138

    You will soon be consolidating yourself around a man in his late 70s, one who not long ago was a Republican, who chose to buy the Democrat nomination

    Geese, I wish I had your crystal ball, I’d use it to play Powerball.

    Go Mayor Pete!!!

  139. 139

    Hey! Btw, funny thing, again.
    At the spontaneous Yelling-at-America party conference Trump held this morning in the East Room he declared for like the thousandth time that he fired his FBI Director to protect himself from an investigation.
    The room leapt to their feet in applause and cheers.
    So cool!

  140. 140

    @139 “The room leapt to their feet in applause and cheers.”

    Looks like they understand what an honest investigation could do to their boss and their jobs.

    People who act like they have something to hide usually do.

  141. 141

    Musing of the Day

    A refrigerator or dishwasher that lasts less than 3 years is still a better deal for the consumer than an airplane that lasts less than one flight.

  143. 143

    Just in case you had any doubt, less than 24 hrs after Senate Republicans ignored all the testimony from dozens of eyewitnesses and mountains of documentary evidence and refused to convict one of their own, he turned right around and froze the remaining military aid to Ukraine.

    For “reasons”.

  145. 145

    Chinese can build a hospital in 2 weeks, they should be able to figure out how to hold a new election.

  147. 147

    All is progressing as I have foreseen.

    AP Politics✔
    @AP_Politics

    BREAKING: The Associated Press is unable to declare a winner of Iowa’s Democratic caucuses because of irregularities in this year’s process and the tight margin between Pete Buttigieg and Bernie Sanders. http://apne.ws/yFLdFYI

    3:30 PM – Feb 6, 2020

  149. 149

    You would think that Elizabeth Warren, who falsely claimed to be a token minority herself until she was forced to admit she’s as pale as the driven snow, would be sensitive to this.

    A half-dozen women of color have departed Elizabeth Warren’s Nevada campaign in the run-up to the state’s caucuses with complaints of a toxic work environment in which minorities felt tokenized and senior leadership was at loggerheads.

    The six staffers have left the roughly 70-person Nevada team since November, during a critical stretch of the race. Three of them said they felt marginalized by the campaign, a situation they said didn’t change or worsened after they took their concerns to their superiors or to human resources staff.

  150. 150

    Trump’s worst fear: The Democratic nominee is someone who doesn’t have a son named Hunter.

    Doctor Dumbfuck’s worst fear: The Democratic nominee is someone who doesn’t have a son named Hunter and isn’t a billionaire.

    Franklin Graham’s worst fear: The next president is someone who doesn’t have a son named Hunter, isn’t a billionaire, and married a man but isn’t Amy Klobuchar or Elizabeth Warren.

  151. 151

    Everyone should face their fears. I intend to do what I have to do to contribute towards Franklin Graham facing that worst fear.

    Possibly he could consult with Gym Jordan.

  154. 154

    Impeachment was successful! It took out Biden.

    Political Polls
    @PpollingNumbers
    .
    @FiveThirtyEight
    Forecast on early and super Tuesday states ____ has the best chance of winning:

    Sanders:
    New Hampshire
    Nevada
    California
    Texas
    North Carolina
    Virginia
    Massachusetts
    Minnesota
    Colorado
    Tennessee
    Oklahoma
    Arkansas
    Utah
    Maine
    Vermont

    Biden:
    South Carolina
    Alabama

    4:32 PM · Feb 5, 2020

  155. 155

    I like Mike

    And Steve probably liked John Anderson.

    Between the two of you there might be a Sunday show.
    But not a President.

  156. 156

    @153 I always expected you to adopt Franklin Graham’s position on human rights, i.e. some humans don’t have rights. I believe Vlad, Xi, and Kim are on board for that approach, too.

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