Howard Dean defines the new Democratic Party:
“We are going to do the 50-state strategy for the next 150 years so we can be the dominant party power in this country again,” he said. “You can’t be the powerful party in this country who controls the government unless you are willing to let the people control you. And the only way you can do that is ask everybody for their vote, understand everybody is our boss even if they vote for you or not.”
http://www.lacitybeat.com/arti.....sueNum=180
“Though the post-victory haze, I perceived a final pathetic spin, based in the fiction that the people still respond to Bush’s supposed charisma: that to lay a Democrat glove-of-impeachment on the president would alienate the electorate big-time. We were being urged to forgive, forget, and all get along. As in forget the lies and the spies, the Constitution and Geneva Conventions, the war profiteering and the body count. Forget that New Orleans’s 9th Ward is still in ruins, forget the inflated homophobia, the decimated middle class, for-profit health care, reproductive rights and embryonic stem cells, and all the small-time insanity, like the Terri Schiavo debacle. Forget My Pet Goat and the War on Christmas? And the accusations of everything from treason to dementia leveled at most of my friends?
Believe me, I have no inclination to forget any single damned thing, or to make any attempt to get along. I want to see every dirty secret dragged out and exposed, until George W. Bush is doing the Nixon perp-walk to the helicopter.”
http://dmoz.org/Science/Social.....auss,_Leo/
Here’s a page that contains lots of scholarly articles refuting and criticising the political philosophy of, Leo Strauss.
He should have stuck to making jeans!
Ka Ching…… as far as the 50 state strategy. It is obvious that the GOP only has the interests of the super rich in mind.
I like the comment above. Bush practically called me a traitor for wanting the truth……
Mr weewee: Go ahead make our day!
What say you Clueless? Oops… Yos Dos Bros!
Gee, anybody else notice that JCH and MTR have been missing from these threads for over a week?
Perhaps after the Nov. 7th elections they are in hiding in their basements, or they threw themselves off a cliff? Perhaps they just are too ashamed to admit that their predictions of an easy Republican victory were wrong, as with every other statement they made? Or perhaps to avoid any of the above, they just changed their log-in name, and are posting under some of the newer names which have appeared in the past week or so?
Or perhaps they were under the payroll of the Republican party, and their job was to distract us from the truth by attempting to divert our discussions in other directions (a common tactic they employed. If this was the case, then they would have dissapeared as soon as their paychecks from the Republican party stopped.
Of course, MWS is still around. His rantings are too indecipherable to make him eligible for employment.
If the Democrats really want to have political power, they need to move towards the middle ground. Having Howard Dean and other like him running the party is not helping the Democrats accomplish that.
Oh, the new Republican minority leader, in an interview, denied that the massive losses suffered by the party during the Nov. 7th elections were a repudiation of the Republican party by the American electorate.
Instead, he claimed that the elections were “only about Iraq”, and since President Bush had already formed the Baker commission and fired Rusmfield, then it was a “dead issue”, already taken care of.
I heard this on the radio. I wished I could have seen his face. I am always fascinated by people who can look at you with a straight face and tell you a bald-faced lie, and expect you to believe it.
Gee, anybody else notice that JCH and MTR have been missing from these threads for over a week?
My understanding is that we have GBS to thank for the loss of JCH. I think they had a bet over whether the Dems would take both the House and the Senate. They wagered permanent exile to the loser.
If the Democrats really want to have political power, they need to move towards the middle ground. Having Howard Dean and other like him running the party is not helping the Democrats accomplish that.
What do you mean by “middle ground?” Do you mean that Dean is too liberal or that he is not “bipartisan” enough?
# 1: I’m all for investigations and digging out the truth, but I’m not for impeachment based upon the facts we already know or suspect. Bush only has two more years in office, and and impeachment investigation, hearings, House Resolution, and Senate Trial would take up most of 2007. This raises a couple of problems:
(a) Are there really enough votes for impeachment and removal? I would be surprised if there were.
(b) So, what happens if Bush is impeached? Cheney takes office. He nominates a new Vice-President, subject to approval by the Senate. Then Cheney resigns (alleging health problems), leaving the new Vice-President to take over the Presidency. But if they choose it right, the new Vice-President isn’t damaged by being too close to the Bush administration. Maybe McCain? Then he goes into the final half-year of the 2008 Presidential election with the advantages of incumbency, a feeling of support (“rally-around-the-President in times of crisis”), and his contrast with Bush will be remarkable. As long as he doesn’t pardon Bush and others in the Bush administration (as Ford did), he’s pretty much erased the current Administration’s problems from being an issue the 2008 race, by claiming that the Republican Party has reformed itself, and all of that is “old news”. If they time it right, the new vice-president could still be elected in 2008 and run for re-election in 2012.
It reminds me a little of what Robert E. Lee said, upon hearing of the removal of McClellan from the command of the Army of the Potomic: “If they keep changing their generals, eventually they will find one who I don’t understand”.
I would rather see Bush as the incumbent in 2008, with every Republican candidate pleading with him NOT to make a campaign appearance on their behalf.
“You can’t be the powerful party in this country who controls the government unless you are willing to let the people control you. And the only way you can do that is ask everybody for their vote, understand everybody is our boss even if they vote for you or not.”
I thought it was that the top 2% of income earners collectively grabbed the President and the two houses of Congress by the short hairs and said “you work for us, or else.” Is that the way it’s always been? Like, should I find this in the writings of Thomas Paine and James Madison, or is this just part of the post-Goldwater Republican strategy?
BTW, I like the improvements. Thanks for spending time on this, Goldy.
I decided to check out Steffy’s blog to see how he handled dissapointment last week, and to see what sort of “spin” he was giving to the electin. I didn’t get that far.
Instead, I found that on Nov. 15th he was complaining about cartoons in the local papers.
“Whoever chose the cartoons at the Times and the PI in that time period made no effort at all to tell both sides of the story, no effort to let their readers see cartoons from both the left and the right. I don’t think that either newspaper did this as a matter of deliberate policy, but I do think this imbalance shows a deep-seated bias at both newspapers.
Not only were the cartoons biased, on the whole; they were often misinformed, based on false assumptions. Worst of all, the cartoons attacking Bush and the Republicans were rarely funny — and I generally love political cartoons, even those I disagree with. (There were a couple of amusing Oliphant cartoons, but they were the cartoons that did not make a partisan point. And he also did two of the very worst cartoons.)”
Unfortunately for Stephan, its very hard to appreciate a cartoon which skewers your party or its leaders, as he found out. The fact that he only liked the “non-political” ones by Oliphant demonstrates that. After all, there were some GREAT Horsey cartoons in the P.I. during the period which were covered.
Stephan forgets (or ignores) that
(a) Editorial cartoons are on the editorial pages for a purpose. The papers are under no obligation to make sure the cartoonists they hire or publish under syndication are “balanced”.
(b) If the Seattle Times didn’t carry sufficiently pro-Republican cartoons for Stephy’s taste, it probably was because they couldn’t find one. I’m sure the Times would have published a cartoon in favor of repealing the Estate Tax if they could have found one.
(c) So, in the face of Republican disasters in Iraq, federal deficits and national debt at all-time high, American influence and prestige abroad at an all-time low, Republican incompetence and corruption being demonstrated at every level of government, and even Republican congressmen being outed for lurking after their male pages, Stephan believes that the Republican party’s defeat was caused in part by – not enough pro-Republican cartoons in the local papers? That somehow the papers have an obligation to make sure the Republican propoganda is sufficiently publicized in the cartoon pages?
Well, if he’s looking for balance, there’s always Mallard Filmore. Both conservative and not funny.
Bipartisanship means liberal Democrats working with Blue Dog Democrats. Republicans are too insignificant to give a shit about.
Mr. Sucks. I’ll bet you have a weak chin and a small penis.
re 8: We are moving to the middle. Hope you Rightards don’t mind a little AGGRESSIVE REDISTRICTING!
Silverbow,
You’re an idiot. Go fuck yourself.
tHE LIES HAVEN’T CHANGED MUCH AND THE SMIRKS ARE RETURNING. dON’T THESE rIGHTARDS REALIZE THAT THEY ARE THE WATERBOYS OF THE ECONOMIC ELITE.
tHEY ARE NOT THEMSELVES THE ELITE.
“Howard Dean defines the new Democratic Party”
You should just at that sentence. It fits perfectly.
Ah yes. The level of the liberal intellect is on display for all to see. What is it with you liberals and your obsession with intercourse and defecation? It appears that synonyms for such comprise the entirety of your vocabulary.
Of course they aren’t under any obligation to be balanced. But then stop complaining when it is pointed out that they aren’t balanced and have a liberal bias. Sheesh!
RE :21: Are you reclining in an artful slouch on an Italian leather “Barcalounger” with your prunelike look of supercilious disdain, contemplating nouns and verbs and gerunds of Greek and Roman Nomanclature?
If I were, the topics of contemplation would certainly extend beyond the realm of the primordial instincts of copulation and defecation and actually venture into higher cerebral territory. That is mountain I feel you are ill-equipped to climb.
Pentagon links homosexuality with bet-wetting and fear of flying
Defense Department guidelines that classified homosexuality as a mental disorder have been changed and now put it among a list of conditions or “circumstances” that range from bed-wetting to fear of flying.
http://english.pravda.ru/news/.....exuality-0
White House displays wrong Vietnamese flag on its official website
The White House Web site for Bush’s Asia trip displayed a picture of the flag of the former Republic of Vietnam – South Vietnam – instead of the current actual flag of
http://english.pravda.ru/world.....540-flag-0
re 24: Don’t bet your life on it, junior. We just kicked your asses into the following century.
This is what it took to get George W. Bush’s flacid ass over to Vietnam.
Any comparisons now with Jane Fonda are merely humorous.
Aerosol!!!!
The vocal Fringe Left and vocal Fringe Right need to recognize that both are NOT wholly in synch with the American public. As I’ve mentioned before, the future success of the country lies with folks like McCain, Giuliani, Obama, Hillary (a former Goldwater Girl)… the Moderate Republicans, the DLC, the Blue Dogs… the Gang of 14. It is time to send the fringies back to the fringes. That isn’t to say that they should be silenced — not at all. They have a place in the government if they are duly elected by their constituents. However, it is time for the adults to run the country.
I never thought I’d say it, but in a fantasy election, I’d vote Bill Clinton over GWB. GWB is like a baseball power hitter with a bad on-base percentage and iffy fielding. He has his deserved moments of glory, but more often than not, you cringe when he comes to the plate. Clinton was more like a solid .280 hitter with a decent glove who takes too many chances with baserunning. Just when you think he’s gonna win it for you, he gets caught stealing.
Since the topic of liberals, Righties, Blue Dogs, etc. has come up, I think folks on here should take the non-partisan http://www.PoliticalCompass.org test and see where they actually rate. Are you a fiscal Commun1st with Fascist social tendencies? Are you Gandhi or Stalin or ??? Post your two scores (fiscal, social) here in this thread. Goldy & BunnyBoy, I’d particularly like to see your scores…
re 28: Blah blah blah…….
re 28: You suck like a truck-mounted carpet cleaning unit. You are the best!
THE DEAN QUOTE IS EXCELLENT GOLDY. THE BRAINDEAD WINGERS AROUND HERE LIKE ASS, PBJ, MTR, MWS AND OTHERS WERE LAUGHING AT DEAN, SMUG IN THEIR CONVICTION THAT DEAN WOULD LEAD THE DEMS INTO THE TALL WEEDS.
THEY’RE NOT LAUGHIN’ MUCH NOW ARE THEY?
THE LAUGH IS NOW OURS AND IT IS THEY, THE WINGNUTS, WHO ARE FADING INTO THE WILDERNESS. DUBYA’S EXCELLENT ADVENTURE IN IRAQ WAS LOST ALMOST AS SOON AS IT BEGAN. THE WINGERS WENT ECSTATIC WITH BLOODLUST. THEY ARE SHALLOW, HOLLOW PEOPLE. ALL IT TAKES IS AN EVIL SWARTHY MAN WITH A MUSTACHE THUMBING HIS NOSE AND SHOOTING A GUN IN THE AIR TO GET THESE WINGNUTS EXCITED ENOUGH TO SELL OUR CHILDREN’S FUTURE DOWN THE RIVER.
WE HAVE TO TAKE AMERICAN MEN AND WOMEN OUT OF HARM’S WAY. WE HAVE TO REDEPLOY TO DEFEND OUR ALLIES AGAINST THE INSTABILITY. WE HAVE TO GIVE HOPE TO THE AFGHANS AND KEEP THE RESURGENT TALIBAN AT BAY. WE CAN’T LET AL-QAEDA HAVE BACK THEIR OLD SANCTUARY. THE SUNNI AND SHIA IN IRAQ HAVE OLD SCORES TO SETTLE. LET THEM SETTLE IT OUT. OUR SOLDIERS AND MARINES ARE JUST TARGET PRACTICE FOR THEM. IF EITHER SIDE REACHES OUT TO US WE’LL LISTEN. ONLY 2 PERCENT OF LOCAL CASUALTIES HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH ANY FOREIGN JIHAD. A DEMOCRACY IN IRAQ IS A PIPE DREAM, A PR CAMPAIGN DIRECTED AT AN AMERICAN PUBLIC THAT FOR THE MOST PART HAS NO UNDERSTANDING OF THE MIDDLE EAST.
re 31: But there’s a lot of money to be made on the human misery of this war. International arms manufacturers are milking these things.
“Masters of War”
MASTERS OF WAR — ZIMMERMAN
Come you masters of war
You that build all the guns
You that build the death planes
You that build the big bombs
You that hide behind walls
You that hide behind desks
I just want you to know
I can see through your masks
You that never done nothin’
But build to destroy
You play with my world
Like it’s your little toy
You put a gun in my hand
And you hide from my eyes
And you turn and run farther
When the fast bullets fly
Like Judas of old
You lie and deceive
A world war can be won
You want me to believe
But I see through your eyes
And I see through your brain
Like I see through the water
That runs down my drain
You fasten the triggers
For the others to fire
Then you set back and watch
When the death count gets higher
You hide in your mansion
As young people’s blood
Flows out of their bodies
And is buried in the mud
You’ve thrown the worst fear
That can ever be hurled
Fear to bring children
Into the world
For threatening my baby
Unborn and unnamed
You ain’t worth the blood
That runs in your veins
How much do I know
To talk out of turn
You might say that I’m young
You might say I’m unlearned
But there’s one thing I know
Though I’m younger than you
Even Jesus would never
Forgive what you do
Let me ask you one question
Is your money that good
Will it buy you forgiveness
Do you think that it could
I think you will find
When your death takes its toll
All the money you made
Will never buy back your soul
And I hope that you die
And your death’ll come soon
I will follow your casket
In the pale afternoon
And I’ll watch while you’re lowered
Down to your deathbed
And I’ll stand o’er your grave
‘Til I’m sure that you’re dead
RE 33: tRY TO EXPLAIN TO ME THAT THAT AIN’T gwb AND vIETNAM? NO WAY……..
“You ain’t worth the blood that runs in your veins”
Go ahead and fly away with your “capital”. We still got the numbers and now we got the guns.
Truth2006 says:
“Howard Dean defines the new Democratic Party”
You should just at that sentence. It fits perfectly.
—————
Who would you rather have running the country? Dr. Dean, or a retarded chimp with an ego problem?
I will take the doctor with the impeccable credentials over the #1 failure in history.
mr weewee says:
RE 33: tRY TO EXPLAIN TO ME THAT THAT AIN’T gwb AND vIETNAM? NO WAY……..
11/17/2006 at 9:56 pm
How about I piss down your throat and watch you drown.
FSMP @ 36 “Who would you rather have running the country? Dr. Dean, or a retarded chimp with an ego problem?”
That is a moot question since neither Dean nor Gore are going to get another chance.
peewee @ 33
So, HA is now “Poetry Corner?” Well, here’s another poem someone like you can relate to:
IMAGES – GREENE (Murphy)
Dark and lonely on a summer’s nightKill my landlordKill my landlord
Watchdog barkin’Do he bite?Kill my landlordKill my landlord
Slip in his windowBreak his neckThen his houseI start to wreck
Got no reasonWhat the heckKill my landlordKill my landlord
C-I-L-LMy land-lord
re 37 & 38: “So long. It’s been good to know ya…” Woody Guthrie
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Mike Webb Sucks says: Mr weewee: Go ahead make our day! — 11/17/2006 at 4:44 pm
You already made ours! Last Tuesday. We thank you and your wingnut buddies for making it easy for us by being a pack of lying, thieving pricks.
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Silverbow says: If the Democrats really want to have political power, they need to move towards the middle ground. — 11/17/2006 at 4:51 pm
All the Democrats have to do is run against Republicans.
Silverbow says: If the Democrats really want to have political power, they need to move towards the middle ground. — 11/17/2006 at 4:51 pm
All the Democrats have to do is run against Republicans.
I want to add that we must reign in the fairness doctrine. Free speech is great but we can not let these repubs get away with their lies. We need to stop the right wing talking heads or we are doomed the next time we get hit by the terrorists.
You idiots on the Left are sooooooooooooo moronic.
You keep screaming about how you will not allow Social Security to be privitize…….even a little.
Yet my addle-brained fools…it already has been…a little.
Do any of you silly savages have a clue as to how it has been done?
I’ll bet not.
Surprise me.
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The Real Mark says: Post your two scores (fiscal, social) here in this thread. Goldy & BunnyBoy, I’d particularly like to see your scores… — 11/17/2006 at 8:48 pm
I don’t take orders from you.
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LeftOut(of their minds!) says:
You keep screaming about how you will not allow Social Security to be privitize…….even a little. — 11/18/2006 at 12:00 am
Bush doesn’t want to privatize Social Security “a little.” He wants to divert a major part of the SS revenue stream to “private accounts.” Explain to me how he can do this without (a) raising taxes or (b) cutting benefits? If he thinks SS has a surplus that would allow diverting $1 trillion to “private accounts” without raising taxes or cutting benefits, then SS doesn’t need “fixing,” does it?
LEFTOUT(WHEN THEY WERE PASSIN’ OUT THE BRAINS):
YOU’RE A LOSER, A MORON. YOU LOST. GET OVER IT. YOU PROBABLY BELIEVED IN KARL ROVE, KEN MEHLMAN AND THEIR “METRICS”. YOU WERE DELUDED LIKE THEY WERE. THEY TOOK YOU FOR A FOOL WHICH YOU ARE BY THE WAY.
YOU HAVE BEEN DEFEATED. THE INTIATIVES, THE CONGRESS, THE STATE HOUSES, GOVERNORSHIPS. YOU’VE BEEN WIPED OUT. THE PEOPLE HAVE REJECTED YOU AND YOUR KIND. YOU HAVE NO ARGUMENT. END OF STORY.
HEY WINGNUTS! How’s your privatized airport security working out for ya?
“Private Airport Screeners Cheated on Security Tests
“By AARON C. DAVIS, AP
“SACRAMENTO, Calif. (Nov. 18) – Federal transportation security officials and a private security company at San Francisco International Airport cheated on undercover tests of screeners at passenger checkpoints, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security has found.
“The department’s Office of Inspector General concluded workers with the Transportation Security Administration and Covenant Aviation Security compromised nearly a year’s worth of tests by using surveillance cameras to track undercover agents as they made their way through the airport. …
“The department found tests were undermined from August 2003 to May 2004 – a period during which officials at the airport were trying to demonstrate that Covenant screeners were as good as or better than TSA screeners.
“San Francisco was the only major airport in the country chosen in 2002 to be part of a pilot program using private security screeners instead of TSA employees. The TSA last month awarded Covenant a four-year contract worth more than $300 million to continue screening at the airport. …
“The investigation began in 2004 after a Covenant screener balked at giving screeners descriptions of undercover agents, then wrote a letter to the TSA detailing the practice. The TSA asked the inspector general’s office to investigate after it received the whistle-blower’s letter. … ”
Quoted under Fair Use; for entire story and/or copyright info see http://tinyurl.com/yyaqx2
YOUR VOTE DOES MATTER
Rep.-elect Joe Courtney, D-Conn., won by just 90 votes in a race in which the candidates received over 120,000 votes apiece.
The Real Mark:
Interesting test at Political Compass. My score was Economic: -2.38; Authoritarian: -3.79.
By the way, I saw Borat tonight and it made me laugh til my stomach hurt. But you won’t like it if you’re a tight ass.
Wayne @ 50
Party on, Wayne! (like you haven’t heard that 1,000 times…)
Borat was hilarious. But while most people focus on the “raw” comments or sentiments of the yokels, they miss two other major commentaries Cohen makes. First, you also get to see Americans bending over backwards to be polite to someone that clearly offends their sensibilities. Second, Borat makes for an incredibly anti-Muslim (or at least anti-non-Christian) caricature.
BTW, my scores were Economic: +1; Authoritarian: -.5.
My guess is that ol’ BunnyBoy is a -7 Economic and a +7 Authoritarian — because in his mind,
FatherThe Government Knows Best and everyone on his kolhoz agrees with him!Well Marky’s hero Tom Foley came out of seclusion. Now he can go to jail where he belongs. The racist right installed Lott in the number two position. The infighting in the GOP over control of the soul of the party was lost to John BONER. He was their leader when they got their ass kicked and he’s still their leader so it proves that the GOP learned nothing from the absolute ass kicking they took in the election.
Topped off with gas prices going back up proving that Bush had the fix in and it’s another great week for the liberals. Get used to it righties. Your world sucks.
rhp6033 says: Of course, MWS is still around. His rantings are too indecipherable to make him eligible for employment.
11/17/2006 at 4:50 pm
Yes, the truth to a Moonbat! is indecipherable! I will continue to be indecipherable to Moonbat!s because the truth, like facts hurt the Moonbat!tic mind.
mr miniscule weewee says: Mr. Sucks. I’ll bet you have a weak chin and a small penis. 11/17/2006 at 6:02 pm
Are you saying you want to sample both? You’ll get one shot at the chin. You can blow me all you want!
rhp6033: read the following carefully. I realize the Moonbat!tic mind may need to reread this below because of low IQ or slowness in mental comprehension.
mr miniscule weewee says: tHE LIES HAVEN’T CHANGED MUCH AND THE SMIRKS ARE RETURNING. dON’T THESE rIGHTARDS REALIZE THAT THEY ARE THE WATERBOYS OF THE ECONOMIC ELITE. tHEY ARE NOT THEMSELVES THE ELITE.
I would rather be with the economic elite, than the hollywood elites or the MSM elites. At least with the economic elites I have a chance to make money.
The hollywood elites are blowhards. When they are shown to be politically idiotic (Danny Golver, Dixie Chicks, Sean Penn, Susan Sarandon, the list goes on and on and on…), they get shrill. They couldn’t make up their minds to or not to support Arnold Schwarzenegger. Can you say fractured?
Speaking of the MSM elites you had Dan Rather. Need I blog more? You have CNN – the Al Qaeda branch of the MSM news showing US Soldiers getting shot.
mr miniscule weewee: What about George Soros? Is he poor?
Didn’t he fund moveon.org, cert and other MOONBAT! organizations with his $$$billions? Of course he don’t count?
What about the hollywood elite movie moguls like steven spielberg, jeffy katzenberg, etc.? Of course they don’t count?
Spastic STUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUPIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIID Moonbat!
Roger Rabbit says: 28 The Real Mark says: Post your two scores (fiscal, social) here in this thread. Goldy & BunnyBoy, I’d particularly like to see your scores… — 11/17/2006 at 8:48 pm I don’t take orders from you.
You should Furball. Then you’d stop fucking animals!
re 56: Ah! The depths to which you have sunk! You are arguing with a man who calls himself mr weewee!
Oh YEAH, mr weewee!!!!!!!
It is to laugh! Exit , stage left!
re 57: Are you lactating?
Yes we lost in non-local politics Yos Dos Bro (AKA Clueless) but this has a special ring:
U. S. Representative District #8
King*, Pierce* Totals – Last updated 11/17/2006 5:39:58 PM
Candidate Party Vote Vote %
Darcy Burner —- Moonbat! 116,021 48.4608%
Dave Reichert – Republican 123,391 51.5392%
Vote Totals —————239,412 100%
Locally people saw through the nutroots and librul donk moby troll Moonbat! Darcy was/is/forever will be! So yes, many conservative Blue Dogs were elected. I told you this last week but most loony HorsesAss Moonbat!s wrote me off as wrong. The Steny Hoyer vote over John Murtha vote says yes. You all said librul ideals won. I bet Charles Rangel voted for Hoyer even though he received that threatening phone call from San Franfreako Pelosi!
Some of us can see the real deal. Moonbat!s only see the loony left librul ideals. This was Darcy Moonbat to most in the Congressional 8th! The Heath Shulers and others came in as Blue Dogs from Reagan Democrats. I know that term is bile to a HorsesAss Moonbat! So watch and see if the loony librul Moonbat! policies of San Franfreako Pelosi get implemented. There will be 44 more seats in play if San Franfreako Pelosi gets her way!
mr weewee says: re 56: Ah! The depths to which you have sunk! You are arguing with a man who calls himself mr weewee! 11/18/2006 at 7:24 am
You choose your name. Too bad your low IQ mind can’t be more creative. I argue with your whack-job loony librul moby troll Moonbat! donk political positions! Hopefully that makes it clear! Have you read the latest Al Qaeda positions on your party’s latest political lines? I already posted a bunch which some party leaders came through as predicted.
Roger Rabbit says: HEY WINGNUTS! How’s your privatized airport security working out for ya?
It was the librul Moonbat!s who complained in US Donk controlled areas that their local companies lost their union workers jobs to Federal TSA. Your side tried to make it a political football in 2004, among other useless things. So Bush appeased the donk and this happens. Furball your mind is a terrible thing!
I’mRightButStupid says: Well Marky’s hero Tom Foley came out of seclusion. Now he can go to jail where he belongs. The racist right installed Lott in the number two position. The infighting in the GOP over control of the soul of the party was lost to John BONER. He was their leader when they got their ass kicked and he’s still their leader so it proves that the GOP learned nothing from the absolute ass kicking they took in the election.
Topped off with gas prices going back up proving that Bush had the fix in and it’s another great week for the liberals. Get used to it righties. Your world sucks.
John Boehner became the leader over Roy Blount because Blount was the wrong guy. Blount was a Abramoff lackey, and he lost the vote. Boehner came in after the damage was already done. I realze a Moonbat! like yourself can’t process my links on the truth because facts hurt the librul Moonbat! mind. I already told you why we lost. Each person, from choking someone to political payola lost. Funny how you reelect those who do the political payola. It will be interesting to see when Abramoff starts giving up the Moonbat! senators.
Case in point: Moonbat!s in action.
http://www.daytondailynews.com.....ftweb.html
Notice when white Moonbat!s do the crime there no color descriptions. When minorities do the crime, their skin color is prominent.
@ 28
I took the politcal compass test here’s where I finished.
Economic left/right: -4.13
Social libertartian/authoritarian: -6.05
I’m right next to The Dalai Lama and very opposite of George W. Bush.
Thank God.
MWS, WE GOT YOUR NUMBER. YOU’RE INPATIENT AT WESTERN STATE FROM TIME TO TIME. WHEN YOUR OUTPATIENT, YOU’RE IN YOUR MAMA’S BASEMENT SCRAWLING RIGHT WING BILGE. THE SHRINKS THAT TREAT YOU HAVE WRITTEN UP YOUR DISORDER. IT’S CALLED WINGNUTTIA. YOU’RE WHACKY, LOONY-TUNE, IRRELEVANT LIKE THE KLOWN OF OLD. AT LEAST HE MOVED ON. YOU CAN’T. THE SHRINKS HAVEN’T FOUND THE RIGHT DRUG FOR YOU. END OF STORY.
I stand by what I said: if the Democrats let the far-left branch of their party run the show, they will not take the White House in 2008 nor will their majority continue in the House and Senate. They will be right back to the situation of a bunch of greedy, arrogant and crooked Republicans running the Executive and Legislative branches.
Art Fart, taking shots at me for stating my opinion and giving advice isn’t going to change things.
Roger Rabbit says:
“Bush doesn’t want to privatize Social Security “a little.” He wants to divert a major part of the SS revenue stream to “private accounts.” Explain to me how he can do this without (a) raising taxes or (b) cutting benefits?”
This is the question I’m asking YOU to answer, you silly wabbit! It has been accomplished right under your little pink wet nose. You can’t figure out how it happened??
I’ll give you a hint….it has to do with a bill passed in the last month or so. And it’s not as readily apparent as lowering taxes or cutting benefits. It’s actually quite brilliant and mainly benefits the lower and middle class folks who are often incapable of saving money on their own. It does not benefit the wealthy…which ought to make you happy Mr. Rabbit.
I’m gonna let you chew on this awhile Mr. Rabbit…kinda like a carrot. I’ll give you an occassional hint.
These guys argue with rabbits and weewee’s. How funny is that?
“Well, I sure gave mr weewee a piece of my mind!”, said Mr. Sucks.
But, Mr sucks, you never answered my question:
ARE YOU LACTATING?
Hey, folks. Just a small peeve here.
Mark Foley, the Republican, despite what Faux News would like everyone to believe, is the perverted child molester that gets his rocks off by sending pornographic and probably illegal instant messages to under age boys. We’re all hoping that he gets to spend some time under close supervision, enjoying the company of like minded folks in a secure facility somewhere in Florida.
Tom Foley, the Democrat, former Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives and ambassador to Japan. He served honorably in the US Congress from 1965 to 1995. His thirty year career in Congress was notable for its length and for his steady climb up the ranks of the Congressional and Party leadership.
Please remember, Mark Foley is an embarassment to the Republican party and a disgrace to Congress that belongs behind bars.
Tom Foley is an honorable gentleman that performed his duties as Representative from our state, Speaker of the House, and Ambassador to one of our most important allies in an distinguished and honorable fashion.
The Republicans would love for us to confuse the two of them.
Remember: Mark (as in Mark the Redneck) Foley = dirtbag.
Tom (as in Tom Terrific) Foley = gentleman and statesman.
John Barelli says:
The Republicans would love for us to confuse the two of them.
Remember: Mark (as in Mark the Redneck) Foley = dirt bag.
Tom (as in Tom Terrific) Foley = gentleman and statesman.
11/18/2006 at 10:11 am
Reverent John and you are like John that Baptist in the same comparison, right? John you are to save sinners not judge them for their short comings for you are a sinner yourself. How did you carry the tune when you sang God Bless America the other night?
52
You mean Mark Foley, don’t you?
53
Anytime a wingnut starts flinging the word “truth” around, watch out! This is a hardhat area! Pigeon poop drops from the skies here!
55 Wingnut blowhard says: “I would rather be with the economic elite, than the hollywood elites or the MSM elites. At least with the economic elites I have a chance to make money.”
Roger Rabbit Reply: No, you don’t, actually. That’s just a delusion that dittoheads have talked themselves into believing. The economic elites didn’t get that way by sharing! The thing with CHEAP LABOR CONSERVATIVES is they don’t believe in paying ANYONE. It’s a philosophical thing; they think their hired help should work for free, or as close to free as they can finagle from them. This includes their sycophants and bootlickers like you, too. So go ahead and labor away doing their bidding and when you finally wake up to the fact you’ve been used and then tossed aside like a dirty dishtowel, come talk to us. We have a nice union you can join that will treat you a hell of a lot better than your economic masters ever will no matter how much you suck their dicks.
57 Mike Webb Sucks says: You should Furball. Then you’d stop fucking animals! — 11/18/2006 at 7:16 am
I don’t do humans. Bestiality is for Republicans.
61 How’s it feel to nearly get your ass kicked by a 35-year-old novice with no resume in a district that has never gone Republican?
63 “So Bush appeased the donk and this happens.”
Your mind must be pretty damned weak if you’re reduced to arguing that Bush appeases Democrats. That ridiculous assertions speaks for itself; no further reply needed.
64 Mike Webb Sucks says: It will be interesting to see when Abramoff starts giving up the Moonbat! senators.
Please, please, please take a deep breath and hold it until Abramoff “gives up the [Democratic] senators.” I will enjoy watching you slowly choke! Do you seriously believe a rabid Republican like Abramoff wouldn’t have already fingered the Democrats on his payola sheet — if there were any? The fact is, not one single Democrat got money from Abramoff, not one! Your boy Jack is a REPUBLICAN SCANDAL from start to finish. You fuckers own this pig … she’s all yours. Suck on it.
65 Betcha they’re Freepers. Holding up a store to get the Playstations looks like a Freeper crime to me. The Freepers probably plan to sell them on Ebay to raise funds for their terrorist activities.
66 Roger Rabbit is the Bunny Gandhi.
69 Let me guess, it’s the latest Bush budget-balancing scheme … you’ve heard of the “nuclear option?” Well, this works like the “stock option” — it’s not on the books, and you pretend it doesn’t exist.
Yep, this off-books accounting works great! If you don’t put the Iraq war in the budget, you get the war free! Or at least it looks that way to the hoi-polloi you’re trying to sell the war to. It’s a great deficit-reduction tool. You make your deficits look only one-third as big as they actually are by (a) counting Social Security surpluses as operating budget revenue and (b) counting Iraq war spending as zero.
70 ARE YOU LACTATING?
I can answer for him … no, he’s not lactating, he’s merely sucking the pus out of the pimple on his ass.
72 klake says: Reverent John and you are like John that Baptist in the same comparison, right? John you are to save sinners not judge them for their short comings for you are a sinner yourself. How did you carry the tune when you sang God Bless America the other night? — 11/18/2006 at 11:00 am
I’m sorry, you have the wrong number! If you want salvation call a priest.
I stand by what I said: if the Democrats let the far-left branch of their party run the show, they will not take the White House in 2008 nor will their majority continue in the House and Senate.
Please identify the policy positions of Howard Dean that you feel make him representative of the “far left” branch of the Democratic Party.
BunnyBoy @ 81
Yeah, right. Comrade Hare Brain is the Bunny Stalin. -7 Economic & +7 Authoritarian.
ATJ @ 86
It isn’t so much his policy positions, but a combination of his vitriol & foot-in-mouth disease. The public didn’t want to hear it from the Right and they’ll have little tolerance for it from the Left (outside of the Kos/MorOn.org echo chamber).
87 The Real Mark says: Comrade Hare Brain is the Bunny Stalin. -7 Economic & +7 Authoritarian. — 11/18/2006 at 12:56 pm
Thanks for taking the test for me. Saves me the trouble. P.S., your score sucks.
4 MWS
“every dirty secret dragged out and exposed” will make your day? Mine too!
28 Mark
I guess it’s just me, the Dalai Lama, and Nelson Mandela…
Economic Left/Right: -3.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.72
64 MWS
“John Boehner became the leader over Roy Blount because Blount was the wrong guy. Blount was a Abramoff lackey, and he lost the vote. Boehner came in after the damage was already done.”
It’s Blunt, by the way. Roy Blunt. But Boehner had ties to Abramoff also.
Yeah, I think you could tell this November how much the “reformer” Boehner helped the Republicans recover from their scandals. He was brilliant at it, no?
“It will be interesting to see when Abramoff starts giving up the Moonbat! senators.”
That just more wingnut smoke and mirrors. First, the alleged “connections” are the same old stories that “Abramoff clients” gave Democrats money. Well, Indian tribes ALWAYS gave Democrats money. Abramoff’s job was to funnel all of their money that he could to Republicans. A Republican asked last week about this supposed scandal-in-the-making put it best, saying, “I don’t think Jack Abramoff knows eight Democrats.”
Second, you guys ALWAYS think that the big scandal that will tar your opponents is just about to break, and it never does. Do us a favor, and hold your breath while you’re waiting for this one.
Hey, wingnuts, another quiz! By the way, all too often you change the subject instead of answering. Do try this time.
What’s your favorite part of the US Constitution and why?
Anyone can answer…
Not surprisingly, I came in a bit to the right and just slightly less libertarian than Daddy Love.
Economic Left/Right: -2.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.31
It’s probably just that I don’t consider big corporations to be automatically bad, just that they need careful watching. Of course, if Wal-Mart makes another run at Gig Harbor, that could change.
Good quiz. At least in my case, I can’t disagree with the findings. Go on, Roger. It was fun.
Is Dean going to endorse Borgen to challenge Reichert in 2008? I think the sheriff vs. the high-profile humanitarian could be one of the top races in the country… Assuming the Dems pick Borgen over Burner.
93 What’s your favorite part of the US Constitution and why?
All of it.
Roger Rabbit says:
69 Let me guess, it’s the latest Bush budget-balancing scheme … you’ve heard of the “nuclear option?” Well, this works like the “stock option” — it’s not on the books, and you pretend it doesn’t exist.
NOPE…it’s nothing as sinister as that Roger.
Keep thinking.
Here’s another hint….How is your Social Security Withholding Calculated??? Think it thru and look at the recent tax law change.
I know you can figure it out.
It’s really not all that bad…it just shifts some $$ from SS to private.
97 leftout
There is no shift of money out of SS.
What’s your favorite part of the US Constitution and why?
The framers of the Constitution knew that they did not know what the future would bring. Many of them also believed that there were a number of flaws in the document, but that those flaws would have to be fixed at a later date, as politics and opinions of the time would not allow them to be addressed until later.
But they also made it difficult to amend, so that frivolous changes would not be made, nor would a simple majority be able to impose its will on a minority.
The wisdom to know that you don’t know everything. I would only wish that our current politicians could have such good judgement.
DL @ 91: “I guess it’s just me, the Dalai Lama, and Nelson Mandela…”
Nothing against any of the three of you, but you do realize that it is easy to be economic Left if you don’t have to work for a living. For example, Mandela came from (at least relative) wealth and the Dalai Lama isn’t putting his plane tickets on his personal Visa card.
100 Mark
Well, then, what’s wrong with me? I’ve been continuously employed for all but a very few months since I was a teenager.
Oh, and the Dalai Lama works. He runs a monastery, and travels constantly to teach and speak. I don’t know if he makes much money. My impression is that he’s not too impressed with it.
Nelson Mandela worked as a guard at a mine and as a clerk at a law firm while he finished his university degree, before he started to devoted all of his time and energy fighting apartheid and running the ANC. I don’t think that paid too well either. And I don’t think he was working during the twenty seven years he was in prison.
DL @ 101
Just like any other celebrity, the Dalai Lama exists outside the “real world.” He can afford not to be impressed because I highly doubt he wants for anything. Unlike his followers, he only starves if he chooses to fast. Mandela came from African (tribal?) royalty.
As for you, have you ever owned or even run a business? Or have you always been in the labor force? It is easy to be halfway down the scale toward to C*mmunism when it is someone else’s money.
97
Anything that shifts $$$ from SS to private will result in a SS revenue shortfall in coming years that will have to be dealt with by raising taxes or cutting bennies.
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The Real Mark says: … have you ever owned or even run a business? Or have you always been in the labor force? It is easy to be halfway down the scale toward to C*mmunism when it is someone else’s money. — 11/18/2006 at 8:13 pm
It figures … CHEAP LABOR CONSERVATIVES figure your wages are THEIR money even after you do the work and they’re forced to pay you!
Memo to Surreal Mark: My wages are MY money!!! How does working for wages (as opposed to owning a business) make the wages “someone else’s” money? Fucking fascist pigdicker.
On-The-Dole BunnyBoy @ 104
Considering you’ve never worked an honest day in your life, you’re one to talk… You made Alcee Hastings look good… Were you removed from the bench, too?
As for your neo-Commie talk… Without the ideas and capital, labor just sits one one big union coffee break. A recent study showed the Conservatives are far more likely to be charitable donors than Liberals. So, how much of your gov’t. check do you give to charity? As I said before, your ilk just wants to tax everyone else’s money so your own check gets fatter.
Without the ideas and capital, labor just sits one one big union coffee break.
IS THIS GUY FOR REAL? OF COURSE NOT, IT’S SURREAL MARK. EVERYONE TO THE LEFT OF ROSSI IS A COMMIE TO HIM.
YLB @ 106
Unless you or your family suffered under Communism, don’t even BEGIN to talk. Just like the rest of the Far Left nutjobs, you’re either an ivory tower elitist or a “cog in the machine” seething with jealousy because you’ll never rise much higher. You do little to earn a change in circumstances, yet you feel an incredible sense of entitlement — either in the form of a government (pay)check or taking (via taxes and “income reallocation”) from those who do try that extra percent.
It is people like you who fear a flat tax (with no loopholes) because you could never imagine paying your true fair share.
“Daddy Love says:
97 leftout
There is no shift of money out of SS.”
I never said there was a “shift of money out of SS”.
Perhaps Daddy Love, there is a shift of money IN!
Think about how SS withholding is determined.
Rate X Taxable Wages…..RIGHT?!!
Keep thinking about what just happened….if you actually take the time to stke the time to study tax laws as opposed to ranting & raving.
Roger & Daddy Love–
Perhaps future generations will be better served once they get used to saving for retirement on their own. Too many people live from day-to-day obsessing about things. Too much credit card and home equity debt. It’s not all bad when an employer can force them to save outside of SS.
Someday, employees will thank employers for forcing them to save.
So let’s see what Republican priorities really are? Ah yes, the ever present “regulations bad, businesses need freedom” line of BS that gave us Enron, Worldcom & Adelphia:
That’s all that matters. Getting rid of regulations and government oversight. Luckily, the moderate Republican they elected to run the SEC gets it. Markets work best when investors can have faith in them, and investors need an advocate (businesses have plenty of advocates:
John Murtha—House Majority Leader. Crook saved by Tip O’Neill
Alcee Hastings—Crook…One of only 6 Federal Judges ever impeached for massive cases of Bribery & Perjury. Now in-line as Chair of House Intelligence Committee.
This is beautiful!!!
It’s actually more fun to be the Minority Party.
I thought Nancy Pelosi planned on “cleaning up the House!!”
And of course, our own Jim McDimwit.
Every single Democratic Party leader will face the same “litmus test” on Ethics they scrutinized their enemies with.
We need to run a 39 County strategy in Washington. We can win with Bill Grant in Walla Walla, and we can find good Democrats to defeat Glen Anderson and Cheryl Pflug in the 5th district.
cricket @ 110
Enron, Worldcom & Adelphia all happened on Clinton’s watch. And while many/most Republicans will argue for varying degrees of deregulation, none are in favor of outright fraud.
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