Rand Paul and head stomper Tim Profitt
If you thought the brutal head stomping of a MoveOn activist outside last night’s U.S. Senate debate in Lexington KY was some sort of random act of mob violence, well, think again. It turns out that the assailant was Tim Profitt, Paul’s now-former Bourbon County Coordinator. And, according to the victim, it appears to have been premeditated as well.
“The Rand Paul campaign knows me and they have expressed their distaste for my work before,” Lauren Valle, 23, told TPM and two other reporters on a conference call this afternoon.
According to Valle, several men surrounded her before Paul arrived at the event in Lexington last night.
“They surrounded me,” she said. “There were about five of them, they started motioning to each other, and they got behind me.”
Valle says her partner, whom she identified as Alex, overheard the men threaten, “we’re here to do crowd control and we might have to take someone out…”
“Rand Paul’s car arrived, and as soon as it did, a couple of them stepped right in front of me and so I stepped off the curb to get around them, back out to the front, and at that point they started grabbing for me and I ran all the way around the car with them in pursuit, and the point at which they see the footage is after I’ve run all the way around the car and am in front of the car and that is when they take me down,” Valle said.
I’m not sure what’s more disturbing, the thought that this might have been an unprovoked, premeditated act of physical violence, or the thought that assailants actually believed that a 23-year-old, female MoveOn activist presented enough of a clear and present physical threat to Paul, that they chased her around car, tackled her to the ground, and stomped on her head in self-defense?
Because if they really believe that our mere presence is so dangerous, absolutely anything could happen next.
Leftist union thugs beat black tea-party member Ken Gladney:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wr_4ZWEFOjQ
re 1: Fuck you.
A few of those good old boys may be facing some felony charges if intent was involved. Couldn’t happen to nicer guys.
@2 awesome logical rebuttal!
re 1: Why the hostility, you might ask?
Barry Goldwater advised never to argue with an idiot — of which you are one. What do you think Eugene Debs would have to say about it.
I’m sure the guy has had years of practice with his wife and kids.
Domestic violence laws are one of those things the tealiban consider unconstitutional.
Be nice to see a real man take out that bald, knuckledragging, right wing closeted homosexual, Tim Profitt. Or as the weak and stupid Saudi cum guzzler Gee Dumbya Boosh calls, him, “Timmy, my favorite top other than anyone named Bin Laden.”
I wonder what Ron Paul, who at least is old enough to have an innate streak of chivalry (or chauvinsm, if you prefer), thinks of the company his kid is keeping these days.
Stupid@1 is one of our paid trolls.
RepubliCorp
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Last week I went to the Obama Rally. 11,000 rabid Obama fans walked by some LaRouche idiots right in front of the entrance to Hec Ed with a huge poster of obama with a Hitler mustache, and another sign calling for his impeachment.
I can hardly imagine a more provocative act. They were begging for a confrontation. Nothing happened. No violence. No videos of people getting their head stomped on.
I’m just sayin’
Yet another sideshow. Anything to avoid discussing the FU by the Democrats and ImamObaMao. Straight out of the Saul Alisnsky Rules for Radicals.
Desperation.
4
That is far more courtesy than you deserved.
Cynny
You think a violent, ideologically-based assault on a young woman expressing her political opinions is a “sideshow”? Do you honestly think this incident does not deserve media coverage? You and your ilk are thugs. You do not engage in discourse because you are incapable of thinking, processing facts, or changing your mind. Enjoy your last flash of glory, Cynny, because the world is leaving you behind.
If someone claims Kenneth Gladney was assaulted and doesn’t mention that Gladney assaulted Reverend Elston McCowan, that person is simply a right-wing loon demonstrating his/her ignorance.
We need to also keep in mind that Mr Profitt’s accomplice is a well known Lexington organizer who advocates for open carrying of firearms. Would he have been willing to use one in this instance?
Cyn is off his meds. He is suppose to be taking Thorazine for prompt control of senile agitation.
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Buying Democracy, One Race at a Time
Enjoy your last flash of glory, Cynny, because the world is leaving you behind.
Wishful thinking. I don’t think the world will out grow thugs and bullies. We must constantly be on guard against the barbarians waiting like slavering dogs, to loot and pillage.
Updates on the Kentucky fracus:
1. The Rand Paul campaign has emphasized that the guy who did the head-stomping, Tim Profitt was a “volunteer”, but then fired him as a county coordinator for the campaign.
2. Tim Profitt will be served with a summons as a judge decides whether or not he will face charges (which is the most unusual arrest/indictment proceedure I’ve ever heard of).
3. Tim Profitt is blaming the police, saying they should have intervened earlier. To do what – keep him from stomping on somebody? It turns out (according to his story) that he pointed the girl out to police and asked them to remover her because “she’s about to do something”. They wisely refused to be thugs on his behalf, saying “that’s not our job”.
Oops, forgot the source for # 18:
Paul volunteer ordered to court for scuffle
But will this story change hearts and minds?
His faithful won’t care. What’s that old joke? He’d have be found in bed with a dead girl or a live boy before they would not vote for him. And they probably wouldn’t care about the dead girl.
The media lies, the cops framed him, the story was taken out of context, he ran out of gas. he had a flat tire. he didn’t have enough money for cab fare. his tux didn’t come back from the cleaners. An old friend came in from out of town. Someone stole his car. There was an earthquake. A terrible flood. Locusts. IT WASN’T MY FAULT, I SWEAR TO GOD. (sorry, it morphed into a Blues Brother’s riff)
Are there still undecided in that race?
J. Boner is correct – arguing with trolls is utterly pointless. They should be ignored. Their function here is that of agent provocateur, and they accomplish their goal of pushing discussion to the right by yelling. We should discuss Republican voter Suppression amongst ourselves, and not engage them at all. They’re just intellectual shitstains.
oops – I meant to link to Republican Voter Suppression
This is what happens when you bring the libertarians into town.
It’s quickly coming to the point where the only patriotic thing to do is to exercise the Bush Doctrine against all members of the Republican Party. Obviously, a preemptive war against the Republican Party is the only option we have to keep America free from tyranny. I’m pretty sure we can prove they really do have access to Weapons of Mass Destruction.
Wait a minute.
Are you telling me that the candidate for Kentucky’s US Senate seat, the guy who kidnapped a girl and made her pray to the AquaBuddha when he was a young college student, Randroid Paul, has a volunteer regional coordinator, Tim Proffit, video taped throwing a defenseless woman to the ground and stomping her head into the curb?
Two points:
(1) What you see once again is the actual respect Republican office seekers, office holders, and the teabagging American Taliban have for our constitution and the rule of law.
(2) You’ve seen enough already. You did not need to see this to motivate you to get your ballot in and to ensure all your friends and family know which side of this election to come down on.
Don’t leave it to Cleaver!
American Fascism.
The 33 second video clip is remarkable, I just wish the tape was longer. What is most remarkable is Rand Paul is seen in closeup getting out of a car before they pan over to the violence by the right-wing goons and thugs. Very rarely do you get something like this where the politician is right there when it happened.
Everyone and their mother knows that the violence is highly concentrated on the right, especially anything associated with the Tea baggers. Once again, thank you Glen Beck, Bill O’Reilly, Michael Savage, Rush Limbaugh, and a whole host of other right wing nutjobs inciting violence. You show me one single progressive on talk radio or TV advocating violence as solution to problems. There aren’t any. To choose violence you have to be ignorant, stupid and immoral. Welcome to the Tea Party!
Looks like Mitch McChinless is going to get a Democratic counterpart.
This was an unprovoked assault on a 23 year old girl; there is no other way to describe it. The fact that there is such a strong connection between Rand Paul and the aggressor means that this definitely deserves national attention and is not a sideshow.
Keep in mind that most swing voters are women. I’m sure that the fact that Rand Paul enlisted the services of a man who stomps the heads of 23 year old women will surely influence their vote.
Goldy or anyone else, what do you think of the recent announcements by the Tea Party that they will be questioning voter’s registration in light of this incident? Should a warning be given out that young women need to wear helmets when they go to the polls to protect themselves from Tea Party ‘registration checkers’?
29
But, Cynny says the incident is a sideshow. He wouldn’t lie, would he?
http://www.americablog.com/201.....-rand.html
Well la-dee-da-dee-da.
Well, well, well.
On a different thread I commented about this, and asked whether our local right-wing goon squad had any inclination to:
1. Condemn this act;
and/or
2. Comment on the observation that contemporary political violence seems to come excluxively from their side of the partisan divide. Meat cleavers, head stomping, eliminationist rhetoric, “2nd Ammendment Solutions”, and on and on.
So far, on Clinical seems to have weighed in, and is, as expected, dismissive, belittling this most recent act of violence as a sideshow to distract from…something. (As it is obvious that distraction from reality is, in fact, the Republicans’ only hope for success).
As for our other worthy right-wing opponents…
*crickets*
Let’s also note the comparative size of the guy who stomped on the girl, and that there were apparantly several of them involved.
I mean, really – my Dad would have kicked my ass if I hit a girl, and this guy thinks he needs three of them to take down a gall about half the size of one of them, and then he stomps on her head to boot.
He’s a coward and and a thug. I’m sure he wouldn’t try that with me (though I’d love for him to try it sometime).
You’re a real turd aren’t you?
Like I said in the previous thread, a little shouting and jostling is normal behavior. But, chasing someone down and delivering a premeditated beat down is not normal or OK. I hope the young woman wins a big settlement and those thugs go to jail for a long time.
@33 rhp6033 on 10/26/2010 at 4:57 pm,
But the only reason he stomped her with his foot is “because he can’t bend over because of back problems“.
Surely had his back been feeling better he’d have given her only a few restraining blows to the head with his fists.
“He’s a coward and and a thug. I’m sure he wouldn’t try that with me (though I’d love for him to try it sometime).”
My first thought. And any man who witnessed this attack on a woman and didn’t do something is a spineless coward.
36
Remarkable. The idiot just keeps talking. You’d think he’d be smart enough to get a lawyer, who would promptly tell him to shut the fuck up. But, either he’s too dimwitted to do that or he’s ignoring his lawyer’s advice. In either event, what we’ve got is one dumb thug–a dumb thug to whom Rand Paul gave a position in his campaign.
LS @32,
+++
That’s the meat of it right there. The righties think it’s their right to attack (physically or otherwise) those who disagree with them.
Are the other folks involved in the attack being charged with any thing?
I guess Guantanamo is the new ideal for Teahadists.
Fucking cowards.
There was a shooting at 2nd and Pike today…probably somebody carrying a Patty Murray sign.
@38
Please tell me that the woman that got stomped can sue those fuckers for every thing they’re worth.
@14, using the SEIU to bolster your position ATJ?
Oh My Goodness!
Toooooooooooooooooooooo
Damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
Funnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnny
She was a MoveOn worker? Wearing a wig so she wouldn’t be recognized? Trying to get close to Rand Paul? Was she carrying a pie?
Anyway attacking a woman like that needs help.
Wana Corporate?
What is that supposed to mean? Oh, it’s puddly, nevermind.
Is that your idea of a condemnation of political violence?
She was pushed to the ground by multiple men, and one of them then stomped on her head?
What about you prevents you from saying that this is WRONG WRONG WRONG?!
At long last, do you have no decency, sir?
@42 & 43
I see puttybutt is trying to justify Profitt’s action. Have you no sense of decency sir?
Man rob and marks are two STUPID libtardo morons twisting what Puddy said.
Well it makes sense. They’re both useless!
What did I twist, puddles? I asked a simple question, “What is that supposed to mean?” It doesn’t make any sense, but considering the source, it’s no surprise. You could try clarifying, but instead you resort to insults. Again, no surprise. So like I said, nevermind.
Rob, Puddy has nothing to explain to an idiot like you. Name calling you bet. Don’t like it too bad!
Puddy doesn’t accuse people of being on meds. It’s your side that does. The person needs help. PERIOD
Sorry puddles, that’s completely incoherent. Try again.
Michael @ 42
Indeed, she can sue them for civil assault and battery. And, unlike Washington (one of only 4 states, I believe, without such damages), I believe that Kentucky permits punitive awards. So, if intent can be proven, bring on the punitive damages, which do not need to relate to actual damages! With wingnut thugs out there acting like SS Troopers, Washington should permit punitive damages. That would be an initiative I could support.
Puddy
Sorry, man, your sentence makes no sense. It can be read in at least 3 ways, and two of them make you look pretty bad. Try some punctuation.
Stomp on some lib’s head, have Rand Paul include your name prominently in a full-page advertisement
http://barefootandprogressive......today.html
And, Puddy: could you pleeze stop mixing the morphine and whiskey. It makes you more incoherent than usual.
@53
Yay!
I bet it wont take too many lawsuits for these folks wives to sit them down and tell them not to do anything stupid.
Maybe our trolls are part of the “she got what she deserved crowd.
Gwaker has the goods on Mike Pezzano, the guy with the really F’ing lame take down.
http://gawker.com/5673921/
57
Nice catch: “to cause a raucous”
It’s amazing to me that these people who are “English only” advocates are, um, less than literate with the mother tongue. The gal in the post you posted didn’t even spell her candidate’s name correctly–she said “Ran,” not “Rand.” And, these folks want to lead the nation, deal with the Middle East, China’s emergence, Brazil/India/Turkey/Indonesia becoming major economic forces. Rand Paul, Sharron Angle, Ken Buck, Christine O’Donnell–really?
The guy who stomped a woman’s head wants an apology from her.
“I don’t think it’s that big of a deal,” Profitt said. “I would like for her to apologize to me to be honest with you.”
Disgusting. Absolutely fucking disgusting.
Teabagger candidate Reynolds thinks Puddy sells drugs because he’s a black male.
“I’ve been in the city and the dichotomy of the women and the men in the minorities, there is a difference in the fact that most minority women, either the single parent or coming from a poor neighborhood, are motivated more so than the minority men,” Reynolds said, when asked what he would do to increase diversity at state colleges. “And it’s a pretty good reason. Most of the women who are single parents have to find work to support their family. The minority men find it more lucrative to be able to do drugs or other avenues rather than do education. It’s easier.”
He’s “been in the city” so he knows this for a fact. He knows Puddy like a book.
WTF is wrong with you people?
I’d ike to see us change our references to this despicable act from “stomped” to “curb stomped.” Curb stomping is a much more dangerous and malicious form of attack, and this woman was held down with her head on a curb and her body in the street. Mistake? Inadvertent? I don’t think so.
These Randy Paul thugs have no doubt seen American History X and have no doubt played Grand Theft Auto and/or Gears of War, all of which prominently feature curb-stopmping as a fun thing to do.
I sure hope he says that in court too!
Brutal head stomping? Seriously? Were you watching the same video I watched?
Man up, Goldy. You’ll experience brutal on Tuesday. Stupidity should be painful.
@62 I hear you, Daddy. That’s exactly what I thought when I saw it. It also looked like if that one guy hadn’t of said, “No, no, no, back off”, he’d have done it again.
By their silence, our trolls here condone this despicable act. That tells me everything I need to know about them. All that insipid KLOWN can do is inanely post more Rasmussen.
@64 If that’s all you can say then you can just STFU. Man up you say? Bring it on, you shit.
@62
It was inadvertent. Watching the video, it’s pretty obvious that Randy’s Rough Boys didn’t have a clue what they were doing.
the Republican mantra – Kill ’em all, let god sort ’em out.
Disgusting.
It’s not OK. It’s criminal. I hope that turd gets nailed.
The vids beg more questions about this weird event.
Why was she wearing a wig? Why the disguise? That alone is creepy.
Why did she need so desperately to shove her sign into Paul’s face, in his SUV?
I’m glad this will be all over in a week.
@69
Glad to see we a agree on that. All three people have been ID’d and the head stomper has a date with a judge.
The woman in the video is an activist from Moveon who’d been doing a bunch of work around the Paul campaign and I guess she thought she’d be more likely to be able to present Paul with a cheesy award if she had the wig on. Probably a bad move on her part, but nothing that should get you taken to the ground and your head stomped. Plus, since they new exactly who she was and what she was doing they knew she wasn’t a threat.
@70
So was she stalking him? Is she a volunteer or paid employee of MoveOn?..
This is all just curiosity on my part. Non of it matters with regards to her being assaulted.
I hope that guy gets what he deserves.
“It’s not OK. It’s criminal. I hope that turd gets nailed.”
Good for you, Right Stuff. It’s not like I’d see something like that happening to a woman and first check party affiliation in order to see if I was good with it or not.
@71 As I understand it, she pulls these stunts – in this case trying to get a photo of her and her sign standing next to Rand Paul. Not my cup of tea, but she was harmless and was exercising her right of free speech.
Kudos to Right Stuff.
@73
Ahh, ok.
Well not my idea of fun times, but whatever.
I just saw the video again. There was one person, another woman who appears to be a Paul supporter, who stepped up and took action to help the woman on the ground. She pushed the dude off who had been holding her down.
Good for her! Shame shame shame on those nutless pussies who thought it was cool to forcefully throw that woman to the ground, hold her down and stomp her head. The more I watch it the angrier it makes me.
All involved need to nut up and take responsibility for what they did.
Sheesh
@75 I watched a number of times in slo-mo on a large screen TV and I couldn’t tell exactly what that woman was doing. My first impression was that she had whacked the woman who was down with her campaign sign. But I really couldn’t say for sure what she did. I’ll have to look at it again in light of how you saw it.
According to news reports, Valle is going to file a civil suit against Proffit. Let’s hope he faces criminal charges, as well. Even if some Republican prosecutor in Kentucky gives him a get-out-of-jail-free card, there’s no way he can stop the civil suit and juries in personal injury cases are awfully hard to control, as every insurance defense lawyer in America knows. Hell, even Republicans admit it — they’ve been trying for years to impose legislative caps on juries’ discretion. I wouldn’t want to be Tim Proffit right now. He’s unemployed, looking at possible jail time, and his net worth (whatever it is) will soon be a fond memory.
Speaking of civil juries, one of the world’s biggest and most influential Big Pharma companies is getting taken down big-time this week amid the stench of a major product-quality scandal. News sources report today that a jury has awarded a company whistleblower $96 million. That comes on top of a $750 million regulatory fine. It turns out GlaxoSmithKline’s quality control is so bad you wouldn’t feed their pills to your neighbor’s dog — you know, the one that barks all night, that you’ve been setting out rat poison for.
@75
Yeah, me too. I’m growing tired of the silly stunt crowd.
I’ve always been on the side of letting a little mutual shoving and yelling go on, to get that crap out of peoples systems. I don’t like it, but I do think it’s part of human nature. But, this one was way beyond acceptable and obviously wasn’t mutual.
Tainted food. Tainted pills. Shoddy new home construction. It seems corporations can’t do anything right anymore, even as they rack up record profits amid staggering unemployment. This is the legacy of the anti-regulation and anti-worker Republican administration of George W. Bush and John Boehner. Their response to the mess they created? Cut the stimulus, let the banks fail, take away your right to sue irresponsible companies who injure or kill your family members, and increase the deficit by giving more tax breaks to rich people. Why would anyone vote to put Republicans back in power? You’d have to be a damned fool to vote Republican in this year’s election.
Just imagine if someone from rush.com with a documented history of “civil unrest” wearing a disguise was running up to Obama with a package in his hands.
I wouldn’t second guess the secret service protecting the President.
Roger,
Of course, a case could be made for the Paul campaign being held vicariously liable for the idiot’s acts. He thought he was acting within the scope of his employment when he took action against the gal. Also, there is some evidence of a coordinated effort among Paul campaign workers to take action against her. If I were her attorney, I’d be looking at adding the Paul campaign as a defendant.
@81
They knew who she was, they knew what she was doing, they knew she might be an annoyance, but wasn’t a threat. The police were around, the police notified, the police decided she wasn’t a problem or a threat and had just as much right to be there as anyone else.
Had she been a real threat and the police, the secret service, or any other professional group, been involved would have just used any of a number of “come along” positions and walked her away. No take down (that was more of a lame ass tackle than a take down anyway) no head stomping needed.
She was down on the ground and completely compliant when she got stomped. Sorry, that’s not OK. And it took three Manly Men to take down a small woman who wasn’t even fighting back? WTF?
Is any of this getting through your thick skull? Or are you one of the 1 in 1,000 that needs to be pepper sprayed and an arm-bar take down used on them before they learn any thing?
@82
I was wondering about that.
@69
Good for you RS. I believe you’re the only one of our local right-wingers to express such a sentiment. My sincere complements for simply being a decent human.
Notably, Cynical and Puddy above came out of the closet as total assholes, as might be expected, but at leat they registered an opinion.
Lost? Lost? Id? Troll? MOT?
*crickets*
@81
Do you need to be reminded of the wingnuts who brought rifles to an event at which Obama was speaking? No one head stomped them, in fact, nothing happened to them. Try again.
If you think that assaulting a harmless woman because you don’t agree with her is okay, just say so. It’s a free country, and you’re allowed to let us know your true opinion without beating around the bush with the hypotheticals.
@86
And if we catch him following his beliefs in public we get to help the woman out until he’s either running off or prone and compliant!
The problem with adding the “Rand Paul Campaign” as a defendant is that by the time the election is held, there’s usually nothing in the campaign bank account but I.O.U.s to the candidate for money he/she loaned his own campaign, and to friendly donars, and a few vendors who didn’t have the sense to require cash up front.
If the candidate loses, then the debts seldom, or ever get paid. Sure, the candidate might hold some post-election fundraisers, but they seldom bring in much, because the unsuccessful candidate doesn’t have anything to offer the donars in the form of favors, access, or even the remote chance that a grateful candidate would remember them as they moved on to higher office.
If the candidate wins, it still might take years for the I.O.U.s to get paid, but at least a successful candidate has a better chance at fundraising than a successful one.
But if there’s a large verdict hanging over the campaign fund, it’s unlikely the candidate is going to make any special effort to raise money simply to see it seized by the opposition.
Now, making a claim against Rand Paul personally might be another matter. It’s a tougher case to make, but more likely to result in at least some payoff. He’s not judgement proof, but he could file bankruptcy. Either way, it might be entertaining to watch, and at least partially rewarding in a financial sense.
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.c.....lawyer.php
Here’s something Rabbit may be interested in…
@89
Based on this turdballs actions to date…I’d guess he’ll choose to represent himself…
Felony=good start.
Burn him down (euphemistically of course)
So he knew who she was, and I doubt he ever believed a boho girl in a wig was going to hurt Mr. Paul – though it being his job to head security, I get that he didn’t want there to be any inconvenience to Mr Paul due to lack of crowd control. But that moment of indiscretion where he puts his foot on her skull at a point when she could not longer be *construed* as a serious threat by *anyone* with normal intelligence…
He just hated her and thought he could get away with expressing that physically. I think they’re ALL a bunch of idiots, including the kid who was wearing a wig while trying to get close to a political figure to present said figure with a wacky fake award. But he was being abusive (in an after-the-fact kind of way that wouldn’t aggravate his back injury) – probably because of feeling powerless – which is NOT AN EXCUSE, just a possible reason why someone might ACT LIKE A DICK … &/or donate lots of money to a political campaign. And he should be held accountable for being an abusive dick, it doesn’t matter if it was just for a moment, or if he didn’t think it would really hurt her, he *did* give her a concussion just because he felt like it.
It’s nice to see political matters once again degrade into unreasonable rancor. Almost everyone seems to do it to some degree – people respond to their world view being (too often disrespectfully)challenged by reflexively putting others down – metaphorically or literally. And then even if their worldview is RESPECTFULLY CHALLENGED… they will often do the same damn thing. It’s like we can’t even consider being wrong, if we have we’ve betrayed ourselves, instead of possibly IMPROVED our selves. Sticking to your guns has it’s place – but not in the world of ideas. It doesn’t matter if someone is dead wrong and accomplishes jack shit, they just want to feel self-righteous, blame their problems on SOMEONE ELSE and then they can veg out on the sofa or sell vegan cupcakes…or kick each other in the face … or beat the crap out of each other with imagined impunity. Because they believe they were correct, and well gosh if they won that just proves it – even if they only won in their own mind – even if the other person may have had a valid point or piece of information they will never know now.
Of course it helps if someone knows how to pose an argument without being an irritating superior prick, and can actually have a polite reasonable disagreement.
“Libert”Arians believe that physical force is justifiable only as self-defence; this has the practical effect of making it easy for them to see any act of violence they might wish to do as merely defending themselves—much as anyone who starts by thinking it’s o.k. to torture terrorists will suddenly realize that everyone he wishes to torture is a terrorist.