I hate making calls like this.
“Is this Denise Passinetti?” I asked the woman at the other end of the line. “The Denise Passinetti who served as Councilman Irons chief of staff?”
There was a long, awkward pause. “Yes…” she finally replied.
There was another awkward moment of silence, only this time, it came from me. I was calling to ask Passinetti about allegations that she had quit the councilman’s staff due to his abusive and harassing behavior, but since I had few details about the specifics, I was unsure exactly how uncomfortable this subject might be. I introduced myself, and struggled to put my question into words, but before I could finish, she cut me off.
“I think I know why you are calling,” she said.
Another uncomfortable pause. I guess I had hoped she would start offering up details. But she didn’t.
So I tried to reassure her and pressure her at the same time. I told her that she was not alone, that David Irons Jr. had reportedly turned his temper towards other council staffers, leaving angry, abusive voicemail messages, and exploding into screaming fits that sent at least one staffer running from the room in tears. But, I told her, none of the victims whom I had identified were willing to come forward, apparently fearful for their jobs, or concerned that such public allegations would disrupt the council’s unusually collegial work environment.
All I got in return was a long sigh. So I changed my tact. “I’m going to run with something,” I told her “and I don’t want to unfairly smear anybody. If I’m wrong about the reason you left your job, I want you to tell me.”
I had reached Passinetti on her cell phone, and she explained that she was waiting for an appointment, but she did want to talk, and that she would call back the next morning. I told her that I believed other reporters — real reporters — had her name as well. I meant it merely as a heads up, a warning that she might be getting more calls, but I guess she thought I was afraid I might lose my scoop, so she promised she would talk to me first. We hung up. At this point, she had neither specifically confirmed nor denied the allegations.
The next morning I awaited her call. It never came. I left several messages on her home and cell phone voicemail. No reply. Finally, a few days later she left a message on my voicemail. She said that she didn’t really want to talk about her time working for David Irons Jr., but that “my actions sort of speak for me.”
So in response to allegations that she quit her job due to Irons’ abusive behavior, all she would say on the record was this: “I was his chief of staff for a little over two years, and in this election I have maxed out my contributions to Ron Sims, and that’s who I’ll be voting for, for executive. So I’ll just let that speak for itself.”
Interpret our halting conversation as you will, but in context, and coming from a Republican staffer, I understood her refusal to deny the allegations as an unspoken confirmation of the underlying charge. I do not know exactly what kind of behavior caused Passinetti to leave her post, whether there was a specific incident or she merely tired of Irons’ temper. I do not know if he slammed doors or threw objects or screamed and yelled or worse… or if Passinetti may have been overly sensitive to the rude and intimidating tantrums of yet another high-strung, arrogant politician.
What I do know — or at least, reasonably believe to be true — is that Passinetti did indeed quit her job due to what she believed to be abusive and harassing behavior on the part of her boss. This is what she reportedly told others at the time. This is what she refused to deny to me.
And this depiction of a short-tempered, verbally abusive David Irons Jr. is one I’ve heard again and again from county staffers, from former Brigadoon officers and from Irons’ own family.
One of the reasons I found Janet C. Irons account of her own son’s abusive behavior so believable, is that while the details were shocking, they were totally consistent with what I had been hearing for months. As Gregory Roberts, writing in the Seattle P-I gingerly put it, Irons “has developed a reputation in some quarters as a sometimes short-tempered co-worker who’s not good at listening.” Indeed, I would reckon that there is not a single reporter who has closely covered the King County Council who has not heard tales of Irons’ angry and abusive temper… most recently an incident that occurred during the taping of his video voter guide, in which Irons unexpectedly exploded at young, female staffer… a tantrum so shocking in its context that it remained a topic of office scuttlebutt for weeks to follow.
According to multiple sources, Irons was accompanied to the studios of the Seattle Channel by a part-time county elections worker, whose job that day was to assure that the video met the county’s detailed ethical guidelines. County protocol prohibits candidates from displaying emblems of organizational affiliations, and so the elections worker asked Irons to remove his customary Rotary lapel pin… at which point he exploded in an abusive rage.
Those present were stunned by the suddenness and ferocity of the outburst, especially in such an inappropriate setting, and report that the woman who was the target of Irons’ rage was visibly shaken. While sources at the Seattle Channel refused to provide details or go on the record — citing the necessity to remain neutral observers if they are to achieve their primary function — they did confirm that an incident took place. Friends of the woman have also confirmed the general description of the events, but she herself has declined to be interviewed, and so I must honor her desire to remain anonymous.
Indeed, the reason I have sat on such damning charges as long as I have, is that nearly all my sources have insisted on remaining anonymous or off the record entirely, for with the exception of Passinetti’s subtle non-denial, I could not garner permission to use a single accuser’s name. Of course this is not surprising coming from central staff who must fear retribution from Irons should he be elected, and who cannot possibly perform their jobs effectively without maintaining the trust of his Republican colleagues… regardless of who holds the executive office.
Yet the accusations are numerous, explicit, consistent, come from multiple sources… and tell a story of a pattern of abusive behavior — almost exclusively targeted at female staffers — that Irons has displayed throughout his career on the council.
Many of the stories arise from when Irons was Vice-Chairman of the Growth Management and Unincorporated Areas Committee. During last year’s sometimes bitter negotiations over the Critical Areas Ordinance, Irons developed a reputation for leaving abusive voicemail tirades for several female staffers, often recorded during angry, late-night rages. One staffer remarked on the level of anger the councilman displayed, calling it “unpleasant and over the top,” while another described these messages as “scary” and “downright weird.” Yet another staffer reportedly transcribed a particularly harassing voicemail and passed it around the office. (A public records request searching for this and other communications won’t be fulfilled before November 8.)
But the incident most frequently cited involved a female central staffer, who was working alone with the councilman on some CAO related issue, when Irons suddenly became enraged, screaming with such fury that the staffer ran from the room in tears, refusing to return, and eventually sending a male co-worker back to retrieve her papers. According to very reliable sources, the incident prompted Councilman Dow Constantine, the chair of the committee, to intervene on the staffer’s behalf, establishing an unwritten protocol that Irons was never to be alone in a room with that staffer again. I asked Councilman Constantine’s office to confirm or deny the allegation, but he declined to comment through an aide.
When I interviewed Irons’ mother for my original story, she expressed genuine surprise that her son had not shown more of a temper during his tenure on the King County Council. “He sometimes goes bonkers,” she told me. Well, as it turns out, she knows her son very well, for not only are stories of his abusive outbursts rampant amongst council staff, he apparently displayed similar behavior at Brigadoon.com as well. A top Brigadoon executive described Irons as “explosive” and “temperamental”, saying his biggest complaint with his performance as COO was the abusive and angry way he often dealt with people.
Yes, Irons denies that he ever hit his mother (although he’s yet to join her in taking and passing a polygraph), but he’s never refuted the larger pattern of abusive behavior she alleges… a pattern that he apparently repeated during his years at Brigadoon and on the county council… a pattern he would surely repeat as King County executive. It is a lifelong pattern entirely consistent with the character testimony of Irons’ own parents, who consistently argue that their opposition to their son’s candidacy is not based on a single incident, but rather on their sincere conviction that he lacks the integrity, the experience, the intellect and the temperament to run a county government larger than that of thirteen states.
A couple weeks back I shared some tales of Irons’ council outbursts with a prominent local columnist, who questioned what was possibly newsworthy about an arrogant and verbally abusive politician? I agreed that yes, there are many elected officials on both sides of the aisle, who are… well… assholes.
That David Irons Jr. is an asshole, may not be news. But nonetheless, voters have a right to know.
That’s it… Part Three of my Irons Trilogy is now complete. Let the voters decide.
A Long Time Ago (well, the 90’s)
In A County Council Far Away (not to Belltowner)…..
THE IRONS WARS
If any of you douchebag trolls are interested, I’ll go halfsies on the web domain http://www.billfinkbienerforco.....ve2009.com
you know… if you’re interested…
It is clear that you approached this with the objective eye of a “reporter” and not someone out to smear a political candidate on the eve of the election. You have a real tenacity for getting at your predetermined “truth” and backing it up with hearty helpings of “allegedly,” “non-denial” and “declined to comment.” I wonder why you even bothered to research anything at all. Anything to get your candidate elected, I guess. I hope they rewarded you handsomely.
Your mother would be proud of you, David. Mazel tov!
I would give it weight if his chief of staff had had enough. If it comes out more like that he won’t be a capable executive. Having worked in local government before and experiencing these little napoleon’s. My response was to slow down their work for them if I had the chance. No one likes asshole leaders in government. We just sit around and bait them for fun.
shuffle signatures in the wrong order. Mis dating. gone home already when the 5 o’clock call comes in. The worst is a lost file, found at the last moment. Or the folder has the wrong content, and you are looking at a 1000 folders not sure which one it is in.
Irons hires females, because he is afraid of males.
shit- she gave 1000 to sims last year…
how hard did you hit her, David?
@ 6
I’m sorry, that was totally innapropriate. my intern typed that awful nonsense.
if anything, I can’t fucking stand political types who shit on the little guys. screaming at some poor girl who’s just doing her job is bullshit.
you know, to his credit, I heard Clarence Thomas is nice to every doorman and elevator operator in the Supreme Court. I guess Irons never got the memo:
“Be Nice To People You See On The Way Up, Because They’re The Same People You See On The Way Down.”
Mark @4,
Since when have I ever claimed to be a “reporter”…?
I laid out this story as honestly as I could. I recounted the whole dialogue between me and Denise so that readers could make up their minds for themselves. I made it very clear that my sources refused to go on the record, and much of the piece is written in the first person… an inherently subjective form. I believe my depiction of Irons to be true… but you, make up your own mind.
That said, had I laid down some wonkish, irrefutable, hard evidence… the trolls wouldn’t have believed that either.
“abusive behavior – almost exclusively targeted at female staffers”
Why am I not surprised this little prick only picks on women? Because if he did it to a man — hell, even a little bunny — he’d get his teeth transplanted to where his knees are? Hey Irons — try that on an 8 5/8-lb. bunny I know … go ahead, try picking me up by my ears … ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
I’m sure our righty trolls have no compunction about voting for a cowardly bully, so they see no problem …
So Stefan … if you win your PDA lawsuit against KCRE that generous donors paid for, are you gonna share the money with them, or keep it all for yourself?
Belltowner-8
To his credit, I heard that Bill Clinton was a perfect southern gentleman to all the women he harrassed sexually, including the ones he raped.
Roger Rabbit-11 ‘..no compunction about voting for a cowardly bully..’
I did not vote for Bill Clinton, so you are wrong.
Of course she maxed out to Sims campaign…SHE LIVES WITH HIS CAMPAIGN MANAGER. LOL Are you crazy? She left Irons office to get a better paying job at Boeing and has been extremely vocal of her support of Irons for years, UNTIL her romantic involvement with her current paramour, that is. Give it a rest, Goldy….your confusing romance with a political issue.
Denise lives with Sims’ campaign manager. Of course she maxed out for Sims. And she left Irons’ office for a better paying job at Boeing. Enough said – except your smarminess knows no bounds.
Dear David CLOWNstein—-
Once again you not so eloquently write something about nothing.
You are a CLOWN.
This lengthy nothingness is akin to screaming at the top of YOUR lungs about WHO LEFT THE TOILET SEAT UP!!!!
I presume a FANCY BOY like David CLOWNstein likes to sit down when he pees.
You rationalize your SHITSQUAD tactics with the disclaimer that you are not a reporter. That somehow that justifies any and all of your actions & words.
Most CLOWNS like to scare people This is why I am a member of IHATECLOWNS! Anyone else who agrees you are a Low-life CLOWN can also join an official organization meant to express our contempt for feminine CLOWNS like you @
http://www.ihateclowns.com
Often times last minute SHITSQUAD tactics unfortunately work.
Goldy, you are much worse than what you claim to abhor.
Your BUTTBUDDY Don Ron Sims King’s campaign staff obviously knows everything you do. I believe they have lead you and orchestrated this in a very clear chain of disclosure…..
Give the information to the FRINGE LUNATIC LEFTIST PINHEADED BLOGGER DAVID CLOWNSTEIN. Allow CLOWNstein to hurl the shallow, hollow allegation. Then the Sims Campaign directs the losers at the MSM to your trash….and they go with it.
I believe that is the formula.
Goldy…….who else has CORRESPONDED with you on this hollow revelation??? Did you talk or communicate in any way with Christian or anyone else connected with the Sims campaign?
I’m sure you will deny….cuz you are prone to lie when cornered…like most DemoRATS.
For all you LEFTIST PINHEADED CLOWNS all lathered up about almost everything……….
Mrs. Sotelo corrected her error as soon as she became aware of it.
How many of these 140 challenged voters will not vote because of the error??? What is the damage? By now, the list and information is very public. The people on this list either know or “should have known” that this challenge is an error. Good luck Rabbit with your pursuit of a Grand Jury investigation. It will not fly. On voter registrations, people NUST disclose their Residential Address unless they apply for Address Confidentiality Program.
You CLOWNS are like a swarm of Piranha’s.
I can’t wait to see one of these 140 erroneously challenged voters stand up in Court and say they did not vote because of this challenge.
Good work, Goldy. Sotelo should be doing time, not apologizing. Her actions were willful misrepresentations.
All Republicans should hand their head in shame for this.
ACCORDING TO SOURCES ON THE OTHER SIDE:
Denise lives with Fatland (not Hadley), a campaign advisor for Sims is every campaign he has been in. She did in fact leave for a better paying job at Boeing and was extremely gracious regarding her experience with Councilor Irons.
Also, I have known an aide in said Councilor’s office for about 6 months and haven’t heard anything about this. Nor do I expect to.
ACCORDING TO MY SOURCES: Denise lives with Fatland (not Hadley), a campaign advisor for Sims throughout his life. She left for a better paying job at Boeing and was extremely gracious regarding her experience with Councilor Irons.
I also happen to know one of Irons’ current aides. This crap isn’t true.
After the local branch of the HA.org BUSH-DAVIDIANS examine the evidence laid out by Goldy’s stories, this is their conclusion:
DAVID IRONS JR. IS OUR KIND OF GUY!!! “STRONG” LEADERSHIP!
Hey Cynical:
You hate clowns? Don’t look in the mirror!
That shouldn’t be a problem for you though. It’s pretty clear from your posting history that self-loathing is what you’re all about.
Get help.
if the people who worked for and with him are reluctant to come forward with their stories what does that say? i have been the object of an abusive situation. the person being abusive APPEARS to most of the outside world as normal, capable, and intelligent. then something snaps and wow! the tirade is amazing, scary, very threatening and you know this crazy person will go to any length to get back at you. no you are not going to come forward publicly.
Jenny @15, Josef @20,
After I talked with Passinetti, I learned she and Fatland have a relationship, though I do not know to what extent. In fact, I suspect that Fatland might have advised her not to talk to me after our initial call. While I know it plays against the trolls myth making here, it seems that Sims’ people were somewhat spooked by my initial story, and word may have gone out NOT to cooperate with me on the council story that I was clearly pursuing at the time. I can tell you that the unwillingness of people to talk was extraordinary.
And just to be clear, Rolin Fatland is NOT Sims campaign manager, though I understand him to be an advisor to Sims in some unofficial capacity. He is a longtime consultant and political operative for both Republicans and Democrats, and a former top aide to the last Republican KC executive Tim Hill.
As for Passinetti, she talked to others about her problems with Irons at the time she left his office. In researching this story, her name came up repeatedly as somebody I should talk to. AND… hers is but one of many examples of Irons inability to work well with staffers.
But again… unlike what you’d find in a newspaper, I laid out my conversation with Passinetti in extraordinary detail, so that my readers could interpret the nuance for themselves.
Irons called his mother a liar, yet provided nothing to back up that claim. I went out there and found a number of other people who reluctantly corroborated at least part of her claim… that he has an explosive, abusive temper. Were they all lying?
And despite the smear allegations, you all voted for Clinton. And so it goes. What Goldstein is unwilling to admit, is that this is not about Irons. This is about getting Sims reelected. Goldstein wants to keep the Democrat machine rolling. Others do not. Irons has my vote.
Finally, a man who can get things done. Yelling and screaming
is the only way to make a granola eater cry. Sometimes you gotta
vote for abuse over the cover-up machine. Truly unbelieveable.
John McDonald @ 26:
You probably voted for Bush, too, How’s that working out for you, you loser?
Ivan,
I did vote for Bush. Thanks. Yes, it’s working out great. There are only two things I wanted out of Bush. A continued bellicose approach to Islamic fanaticism, and conservative supreme court nominations. I actually don’t agree with Bush’s religious views, views on abortion, stem cell research, right to die, etc. But none of that matters if we continue an appeasement policy towards the Middle East which allowed 30 years of bigger and bolder terror, that finally reached our soil in 1993, and was still ignored.
As for the Supreme court, the prospect of a conservative court worries me, but it worries me far less than an activist liberal court the treats the Constituion like a crystal ball from which anything can be read or divined.
So, yeah, Bush is not ideal, but I’m sure glad that the majority of the country is made up of people who are willing to stay calm and rational as opposed to the anti-war leftist progressive aggro types that post here and rail on and on with profanity, etc.
Have a nice day.
You know if you look through history you will find many great leaders had “explosive” personalities, Patton, Al Haig, to a point Reagan and yes even Hillary has been known to throw a vase or two according to White House staffers. To judge David Irons on insinuations that have NOTHING to do with running county buisiness is a wrong policy. I have no doubt that as a leader/supervisor he is VERY demanding, just the type I want in charge! I want a man that will give me my moneys worth and demands his staff also does that.
And to add, I havent seen anything in Simms track record that displays to me that the taxpayer is getting his/her moneys worth, but oh well, I dont vote that office anyway, I am in Pierce county.
@14
“yearight” who did Bill Clinton bully? are you really this fucking stupid? don’t answer that, we know the answer is yes. let me spell it out for you. the question is not whether you voted for Bill Clinton but whether you voted for David Irons, and if so, whether you had any compunctions about it. the cowardly bully is Irons, not Bill Clinton. comprende? no, you don’t comprehende, you stupid wingnut.
John McDonald @26,
Um… do you actually read my blog? I’ve been quite open about my admiration for Ron Sims, and that yes, I passionately advocate for his election.
But as much as the GOP might want it to be, Tuesday is not a retention vote on Ron Sims… voters have a choice between two candidates, and I think it is fair that voters know that Irons has a long history of abusive behavior, and that he has lied on his resumes, essentially fabricating much of the 25 years of executive experience he touts as his major qualification for running a $3.4 billion government.
Let me also make a point that I did not clearly make in this post, and that is, that the fact that others support his mother’s depiction of Irons behavior, supports the assertion that she was being truthful in general, and that one can trust her description of his non-executive role at his parents Cable TV company.
Irons parents, who owned the company, claim his role there gave him no management or executive experience whatsoever… essentially refuting 13 of 25 years of experience Irons claims. Dismiss that as a he said/she said dispute too if you want, but Irons has presented no evidence to support believing him over his parents.
The guy simply does not have the qualifications he claims… which makes him both unqualified, and a liar.
jenny @15
jenny, are you really as stupid as you look? if your theory is correct, how come Mary Matalim didn’t turn into a flaming Democrat after marrying James Carville?
Marriage (or romance) does not change one’s political beliefs.
@18
“Mrs. Sotelo corrected her error as soon as she became aware of it.”
So Cynical, if a moving company drops a piano on your head, which btw wouldn’t hurt anything, and “corrects their error” as soon as they become aware of it, you’re not gonna sue them — right?
Goldy @ 33
Irons took a page from unelected Rossi who was very good at lying on his resume too (real estate broker) ….
@18 (continued)
Or let’s say, Cyn, that a bank robber thinks about what he did and the next day returns the money to the bank and apologizes, he shouldn’t be prosecuted or go to jail — is that what you’re saying?
That voters who were wrongly challenged by alleged perjurer Lori Soleto should just turn the other cheek? That nobody should do anything about 140 cases of felony perjury?
correction, sotelo not soleto
Thomas Trainwinder@37
Actually Rossi was actually elected, he was just recounted and recounted untill King County screwed him.
@26
“And despite the smear allegations, you all voted for Clinton.”
Yes, many Democrats voted for Clinton, despite all the (unfounded) GOP smear allegations against him. I didn’t, because I didn’t like his draft dodging, which is not a smear but a fact. But Clinton turned out to be a 1,000 times better president than Bush — who is a not merely a draft evader but a deserter — is.
YOu call that objective reporting? Great novel, but if you’re going to base such fantasy on reality, at least have the decency to tell everyone that Denise is sleeping with Sim’s campaign consultant. That sure changes the picture now doesn’t it?
27
“Sometimes you gotta vote for abuse”
Yeah, you’re right Mark about one thing, sometimes you trolls are “Truly unbelieveable.”
Hey Mark, does abuse work for you with your wife and kids, too? How about your employees (if you have any)? Do you use abuse to train your dog? to speed up the traffic in front of you? in the grocery checkout line?
Mark … let me ask you just one question … are you still beating your wife and children, kicking the dog, and strangling the cat?
John McDonald 229
“There are only two things I wanted out of Bush. A continued bellicose approach to Islamic fanaticism, and conservative supreme court nominations.”
I gather then, John, you don’t mind that Bush is
A) presiding over human rights abuses on a qualitative par with Hitler and Stalin,
B) spying on American citizens who haven’t broken any laws,
C) looting the U.S. economy,
D) systematically staffing the federal government with incompetent dolts,
E) wrecking the environment,
F) aiding terrorists by attacking the wrong country,
G) looking the other way (if not participating in) treason against CIA agents,
etc. ad nauseum.
By this post, you have proven yourself to be a pathetic blind goose-stepping wingnut.
@30
Hillary was justified in throwing the vase, if she aimed it at Bill’s head (or crotch). Irons was not justified in beating up his mother; and his abusive behavior toward female county employees likely is legally actionable, if someone wants to pursue it.
wingnuts = apologists for abuse, physical assault, and hysterical temper tantrums
@42
No, it doesn’t change the picture at all. As Goldy has pointed out, Fatland has also consulted for Republicans. Sounds like a guy who works both sides of the aisle for a paycheck.
In any case, how does sleeping with someone change a person’s politics? Are you really this fucking stupid? Can you swear to us that you never dated a Democrat? How do you know? Did your dates have to fill out a questionnaire and take a lie detector test to get a movie and a Dick’s cheeseburger out of you? Did you ask them what their political affiliation was before you groped them in the back seat?
You are a numbskull along with the rest of the wingnuts on this board.
Hey Stefan, I know you read this board, so how about it — if you win your PDC lawsuit against KCRE, are you going to share the money with the generous donors who paid for the lawsuit, or keep it all for yourself?
STEFAN VIGIL – DAY 5
Stefan is strangely silent about whether he’s going to share the proceeds of his PDC lawsuit against Dean Logan and KCRE with the supporters whose donations paid for the lawsuit.
Note that although Stefan lives in an $800,000 house, he isn’t about to pay for this lawsuit with his own money. He’s financing it with OPM.* (* other people’s money)
By way of illustration, here’s how it might work. Let’s assume the lawsuit costs $25,000 and Stefan raises $35,000 in three large donations of $10,000 apiece (from people who have more money than they know what to do with) and $5,000 in small donations from 200 people who contributed an average of $25 apiece.
By way of further illustration, let’s assume a sympathetic judge somehow rationalizes that Stefan’s lawsuit against Logan and KCRE for alleged PDC violations actually has some sort of merit, and awards him $5.00 in statutory penalties and $35,000 in attorney fees, as authorized by RCW 42.17.340(4).
Now let’s assume Stefan pockets the whole $35,005, disbursing none of it to the donors who fronted the cost of the lawsuit.
That’s a $35,005 profit on a $0 investment. Not a bad business model, if you can find suckers willing to donate $35,000 to your “legal action fund.”
Maybe that’s how one gets to live in a $800,000 house.
So – how about it, Stefan – is that what you’re up to? Dump the costs on your “investors” and take all the revenue for yourself? Don’t be bashful now – you can ‘fess up, there’s nothing to be ashamed of – that’s how Republicans ALWAYS do business, if they can get away with it – your pals will be proud of you.
So, how about it Steffy Baby, are you gonna share the winnings with your generous donors, or keep all the money for yourself?
Correction on post above, in the illustration given, Stefan’s theoretical profit is $10,005, not $35,005. I forgot to subtract costs from gross revenue. On the other hand, Stefan’s profit theoretically could be $35,005 if he stiffed not only his donors but also his lawyer. So the $35,005 theoretically could be correct.
So, Stefan, how about it? Are you gonna stiff your lawyer? No particular reason for asking, just curious, that’s all.
Cheesy Chuckie @31
Hey Chuck, if you’re worried about getting your money’s worth, why don’t you contribute to Stefan’s “legal action fund?” Who knows, you might get a nice dividend – although don’t bank on that just yet.
Goldy – You tried laying out the story, but nothing substantial stuck in my mind. Rabbit – What temper tantrums ? Sims admitted yesterday that Irons never lost his temper in all of his interactions with him on KVI in their debate. Doubt if many over here listened to it, because it was on that bad right-wing station. Irons did accuse Sims of lieing about his credentials and his support of I-605, which Sims did not rebut on the air.
People hear what they want to hear and are too lazy or self-absorbed to not bother to check out the facts, and that’s why there are many uninformed voters.
If Sims happens to win, that will be why. Its all about taking sides in the culture war, which is ripping the guts out of this country and county. Noone will pursue something that may have happened by accident more than 10 years ago – anyone who believes that is stuck on stupid. Just another smear tactic that is nothing but flatulence. Search for the truth for a change – if you have the cajones ! Have a nice day.
Irons, Irons–puddin’ and pie
Hit the girls and made them cry.
When the boys came out to play
David Irons ran away!
GOOGLE the word: “failure”.
KS @ 53
“Rabbit – What temper tantrums ? Sims admitted yesterday that Irons never lost his temper in all of his interactions with him on KVI in their debate.”
If you’ve been following this story, you’ve read by now that Irons only blows up at women, and usually only when there are no witnesses. The little prick doesn’t have the guts to do this to Sims, who is a big guy and could crush Irons like a bug if he felt like it. For that matter, he doesn’t have the guts to do it to ANY male. Hell, he doesn’t even have the guts to try it on a fluffy 8 5/8-lb. bunny with pink ears and a cute cottontail … if he picked me up by my ears, my powerful hind feet with razor-sharp claws would rip him a new belly button, and his intestines and liver and other guts would be spread all over the carpet. God, what a mess! So go ahead, Irons, you fucking mother-beater coward, make my day, pick up Roger Rabbit by the ears you fucking creep …
Josef—
Excellent work my friend in disclosing the fact that a SIMS Campaign adviser, FATLAND, is boning the source of CLOWNstein’s BIG SCOOP!!! Something tells me that CLOWNstein knew this all along and “conveniently” omitted it from the truth and whole truth. Typical. You busted CLOWNstein for his SHITSQUAD tactics at their worst!!!!
And Rog—
C’mon. Your an attorney. How many of these 140 will not vote because of Mrs. Sotelo’s error? The error was publicly corrected. A number of those folks already know they can vote.
In the end, it is much ado about nothing. No one will stand before us under oath and say they didn’t vote because of this. No one!!!
So go ahead you LEFTIST PINHEADED CLOWNS…..hurl yourselves on the ground and feign damage. It is what you are best at….acting offended at anything you disagree with. There is no damage. I’m glad these legitimate voters can vote. It’s the way it should be. But what about the others that are illegally registered?????? Ohhhhhhhhh, I get it….ignore these. Logan basically put the onus on citizens to challenge voter registration….despite the fact that virtually every other County follows up on obvious illegal registrations like mailbox services and storage warehouses WITHOUT A FORMAL CHALLENGE!!!!
If Sims loses================LOGANCLOWN is FIRED!!!!
If David Irons wins=========LOGAN CLOWN IS FIRED!!!!!!!!
That’s good enough for me!
Everything starts with competent Elections in a Representative form of Government you CLOWNS!
@55
I just ran a search on “miserable failure” and came up with a long list of hits on “George W. Bush” again.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
CLOWNstein sez at SoundPolitics (nice of you to post on a professional Blog David):
” Reporters at both the Times and the P-I had most of the information I have… they have the names of the women involved in these incidents, and obviously, they couldn’t get them to talk on the record either.”
So how does CLOWNstein know what reporters at the Times and TASS have???? Are these fine masters of professional journalism sharing confidential information with a FRINGE LUNATIC LEFTIST PINHEADED BLOGGERCLOWN named David CLOWNstein???
I believe that the Sims Campaign feeds CLOWNstein….CLOWNstein posts and then the losers at the Times & P-I jump on it. This is a well-orchestrated sham!!
Thank you CLOWNstein for busting yourself…..again with the insight on what “reporters” at the TImes and P-I have.
You are truly a CLOWN!!
So your BIG SCOOP source of this thread is BONING one of Sims Campaign manager’s??!!! That’s just great Goldy.
It’s hilarious to watch the HA trolls trip over themselves trying to justify and rationalize WSRP’s screwup – even after Chris Vance publicly apologized for it! They’ve certainly displayed their true colors today. Fucking apologists for voter intimidation and vote suppression.
Reply to 140
“How many of these 140 will not vote because of Mrs. Sotelo’s error?”
I’d guess about a third to half of them.
Reply to 57 (continued)
Hey Cynical, Pop Quiz:
Question 1: Why did Vance & WSRP wait until 2 days before the election to spring these challenges on nearly 2,000 voters? Why didn’t they file these challenges weeks ago?
Question 2: Why did Vance & WSRP cherry pick Democratic precincts in King County, instead of challenging suspected ineligible voters throughout the state including strongly GOP-leaning counties?
Question 3: What was Gregoire’s winning margin, and if the GOP had wrongly challenged Democratic 140 voters 2 days before the Nov. 2004 election, who consequently did not vote, would that have put the candidate who was NOT chosen by the voters in power?
I suspect your score on this quiz is going to be zero.
Cynical = apologist for unethical vote suppression
So Dave Irons Jr. must still be leading Sims in the polls? I would think that you’d believe that Sims’ record alone would be enough to re-elect him. But apparently you’re worried that it is not sufficient.
@57
“In the end, it is much ado about nothing. No one will stand before us under oath and say they didn’t vote because of this. No one!!!”
This is your excuse for letting Sotelo off the hook for swearing under oath these people weren’t entitled to vote without having made reasonable inquiry into the truth of the matter or conducted any due diligence? You’re pathetic.
That’s like saying a guy who sticks up a 7-11 but doesn’t get any money because the clerk couldn’t open the drop safe is innocent because nothing was taken.
Perjury is perjury, Cynical. The false swearing is a crime regardless of whether it deprives anyone of their vote. But the chances are good that Sotelo’s false swearing will discourage some people from voting.
Cynical = apologist for crime
GOP = party of crooks, liars, and perjurers
Roger Rabbit-62
Answer 1: Taking a page from the Goldy book of politics. Wake up!
Answer 2: Low-hanging fruit. The biggest bang for the buck, etc. Everyone now knows that KC is ripe with illegal registrations AND illegal votes.
Answer 3: It would take a lot more than 140 ballots to overcome the extra ballots, double and felon voters. Now if you also exclude the 1500 the GOP got right, that may have changed things.
So, Stefan, are you gonna stiff your lawyer as well as your donors? Just curious.
Here we are a year after the 2004 elections and the lefties are still in overdrive defending incompetence and illegal voting, as well as poo-pooing honest efforts to do what KCE and WA dems refuse to do. And all this while everyone should be celebrating Merry Fitzmas, the Alito filibuster, lies about lies about WMDs, and Rove doing the perp walk.
Life is good, and the left is empty.
Reply to 67
Here’s your graded quiz.
Answer 1 – Answer is unresponsive to the question that was asked. Score: 0
Answer 2 – 1/2 point for first part of answer – honesty and candor will be rewarded in this class. Subtract 1/2 point for second part of answer – gross misstatements of fact will not be tolerated in this class. Net score: 0
Answer 3 – Wrong. Winning margin of 133 votes – 140 illegally suppressed Democratic votes = -7 votes which results in the losing candidate, Dino Rossi, becoming the unelected governor. See discussion of Answer 1 above regarding unresponsive answers to questions. Score: 0
Total Score: 0
I told you so
Denise left Irons’ office for a better paying job at Boeing, that required fewer hours than her position on Irons staff.
– Denise has been romantically involved with [Rollin] Fatland for several years. She worked for him and then became his live in girlfriend some time ago.
– Fatland has worked on every Sims campaign (including this one) and will lose more than $250,000 a year in income the moment Sims is out of office.
The biggest bombshell here is that a woman who is invested in Sims’ re-election refuses to be used in an attempt to falsely smear Sims’ opponent.
Goldy @ 9
If you don’t and never claimed to be a reporter, don’t go around to other blogs requesting to be “protected” under McKenna’s proposed “reporter shield law”.
The fact remains that Goldy’s motivation is NOT to help the public. It is to HELP SIMS and he should stop pretending otherwise. If the GOP nominated Mother Theresa (when she was alive), Goldy and the Dems would try and dig dirt.
Goldy, it takes a “special kind of defective” to run for political office. A close friend was what the MSM calls a professional “political operative” for the Dems and worked with local and national offices and campaigns here and in other states. Issues ranged from the tame (e.g. the Seattle Dem officeholder who couldn’t get out of bed without talking to political consultants) to the serious (anger management, pathological lying, sexual harassment, etc.). And why is my friend no longer in politics? Because they went in as a bright-eyed and hyper-talented idealist and left disgusted with the WHOLE process — especially because they thought the Dems were the “good guys” and not just a different flavor of the same old thing.
Goldy, if you are exposing real issues in GOOD FAITH, that is fine. But unless you’re willing to expose the same evils and corruption within your own party and its candidates, don’t pretent that you’re some red-caped superhero. You’re just the same partisan who is in denial about how sausage is made.
I will gladly donate to a hothead… compared to Ron Sims.
There was no need for David to take off his Rotary pin. Now if it was a Bush-Cheney or Rossi pin, that’d be a different story.
@72
So what if Goldy’s motive is to help Sims? Your motive is to help Republicans, no matter how corrupt, immoral, or unfit they are. Furthermore, you’re doing it on Goldy’s blog, at his expense. Go screw yourself and your armadillo.
Roger @ 74
You think my motive is to help Republicans, blah, blah, blah?? Show me proof. I have challenged Goldy’s assertions, his research and his motives, but I’ve also made public challenges to both the local and national GOP for things I disagree with. I know it is hard for a thoroughly-programmed, Kool-Aid sipping Lefty like you to understand, but not every person who identifies with a party is a blind, arrogant, loudmouthed lemming partisan like you are. Lemme ask you… What did you get for selling your mind and soul??
Goldy’s motive is Goldy.
You all remember in the 2nd grade the snot-nosed, attention seeking, little agitator waving his hand: “Teacher, Teacher, David looked at me funny”… “Teacher, Teacher, Dino wouldn’t let me play with him at recess”…. “Teacher, Teacher, George won’t share”… “Teacher, Teacher Tom and Dick hurt my feelings“…well that snot-nosed, attention seeking little agitator has gotten bigger (notice I did NOT say he’s all grown up) and now runs a blog.
Proud—
Actually when CLOWNstein was in 2nd Grade he got bitchslapped for his milk money daily by a kindergartner (man was she tough…huh Goldy?).
But unless you’re willing to expose the same evils and corruption within your own party and its candidates, don’t pretent that you’re some red-caped superhero.
This is such a freaking broken record and it sure it doesn’t lend you much credibility Marky Mark.
Question for ya: what recent trial balloon did Goldy criticize and what happened after that?
You’ve criticized Republicans? Gee I hope so. If the Republicans keep offering up winners like Craswell, Carlson, Nethercutt and now Irons – they’re not going much of anywhere unless people fall asleep on their civic duties or become numbed to the whole thing.
Bottom line: Democrats, if they want to win, are going to pursue a positive, issues-based agenda. If they want to lose they’ll take orders and advice from Republican partisans like you.
@ 72
“they thought the Dems were the “good guys” and not just a different flavor of the same old thing”
Truth be told, I tried to convince some fellow libs at DL that there is precious little to be gain by not playing the game as hard and as tough as the GOP. Dems and libs are gunshy about playing hardball, I think.
“But unless you’re willing to expose the same evils and corruption within your own party and its candidates, don’t pretent that you’re some red-caped superhero”
Frankly, thats just not his role. thats Sharkansky’s role. there is a sort of detante (sp?), a balance, and if Goldy starts beating the shit out of Dems, well, I really doubt shakansky will be taking GOoPers to task on anything.
more @ 72
Besides, I prefer to savage Dems not in public over my disagreements (gun control, religeon, poverty issues). If I were to hammer, say, Ron Sims over election shit, I’d be counted among the lunatics at uSP, and I prefer not to be. When Ron came to DL, I ask him whats changed in the election department, and what else has got to be fixed. to some, thats probably a bunch of BS, but he took all the questions I had and answered them straightforward. so, it won’t change anybody’s mind, but I think the man shoots straight
A few righty commenters have posted the uninformed opinion that Bush’s bellicose attitude toward Muslim extremists is why they voted for him. I would like to remind them, once again, that 9/11 was easily preventable and the Bush administration had prior knowledge that al Qaida was planning something destructive and dramatic in the near future.What did they do about it? Nothing. Your president read a children’s book to a class of third graders KNOWING that we were under attack! What a putz….
9/11 happened on George W. Bush’s watch. His response was to read a children’s book and , later, quote a Bon Jovi song. Your righty image of the way the U.S. foreign policy goes is something like this: the U.S. is like some kind, gentle giant who only wants to do good in the world and spread democracy and prosperity. Oh, sometimes we make a little mistake ( like supporting right wing dictators and training South American death squads ) but deep down, for gosh sake, we MEAN WELL!
The righty attitude is: “We’ve been good guys long enough, now let’s kick some ass!” That is the immature view of a 14 year old. It takes more than 30 seconds to explain, so most people will not make the effort to understand, but righties cannot overcome the stupidity and ineptitude of Bush and his entire team as they tried their mightiest to cope with Katrina but could be seen by the world for the incompetent fools that they are.
How about “the rest of the story”.
Irons is followed by the staffer who clearly is not only a KC employee, but also a Sims supporter. While Sims is constantly presenting himself as KC executive, democrat, minister, whatever, having his staff car and police escort and all other signs and benefits (unpaid by the campaign I might add), Irons is asked unduely and silly requests. When asked to remove his rotary pin (which has nothing to do with either KC or any other relevant issues), he says: “Oh come off it, this is ridiculous”.
Now, would this be considered a blowing up and being beligerent ? Not in my book, but Goldy would make a case like this into all sorts of scandals and such. As I said before, as long as Goldy ommits relevant facts and makes up stories, he’s nothing more like a political hack (and why not). The problem is that many on this board lack the cognitive complexity to question the facts or the willingness to put things in perspective. And then pretending to be or (desperately want to be) a reporter ….it’s a joke.
Clueless @ 78: “Bottom line: Democrats, if they want to win, are going to pursue a positive, issues-based agenda. If they want to lose they’ll take orders and advice from Republican partisans like you. “
Do you actually think before you type or are your postings the result of the “infinite monkeys with infinite typewriters” theory?
I have on more than one occasion said ALMOST EXACTLY what you said in “bottom line.” There would be nothing more healthy for this country than an election where both candidates engaged in issues-based (or solution-based) campaigning. I’m NOT a rabid partisan and I have voted for Dems when they were the better option (OK, so Locke was a ‘lesser evil’ vote). I welcome the day when I am torn between two (or three?) solid candidates for an office.
re 83: It’s not, “infinite monkeys with infinite typewriters”. It’s a roomful of monkeys with a roomful of typewriters– and an infinite amount of TIME. Kind of like the way evolution works.
Here we are 6 months after Judge Bridges dumped Rossi’s bullshit election contest and the righties are still in overdrive claiming fraudulent voting, as well as poo-pooing dishonest efforts by WSRP to disenfranchise legal voters in targeted Democratic precincts. And all this while they need to be worried about Merry Fitzmas, an Alito filibuster, lies about WMDs, and Rove doing the perp walk.
Reply to 72
Helping Sims helps the public because Irons is such an ass.
@73
Josef = apologist for cowardly female abuser
@75
“What did you get for selling your mind and soul??”
Free lettuce for life, but I have to hop up to Stefan’s garden to get it, and I may get shot at.
@78
“Bottom line: Democrats, if they want to win, are going to pursue a positive, issues-based agenda. If they want to lose they’ll take orders and advice from Republican partisans like you.”
Message for the clueless: We don’t take orders from dicks like Mark, MTR, Cynical, ASS, Pudwhacker, etc. ad naus.
@79
“I really doubt shakansky will be taking GOoPers to task on anything.”
Of course not. He’s a bootlicker, just like the whiny-ass trolls who think they’re being cute by polishing Irons’ dick on HA.
There is a solid candidate in this race – Irons. He has 25 years of business experience, is described by his former co-workers and business associates as being of the highest integrity, and he is talking about real issues. In contrast the Sims’ campaign is misrepresenting Irons’ positions in an effort to distract the electorate from Sims’ own failings: the election fiascos, millions on computer systems that never materialize, sexual abuse in the jails, and blatantly tying building permits to campaign contributions. Do we want another four years of mismanagement by Sims or a proven manager with more experience than Sims will ever have? Vote the man, not the party…and elect the best choice we’ve had in many years – Irons. As for Goldy – his use of profanity whenever he wants to make a point just underscores his lack of intellect and limited vocabulary. GOldy need to swallow hard and admit that Irons is man we need and Irons deserves to win.
@80
“Besides, I prefer to savage Dems not in public over my disagreements”
We handle our internal problems internally, instead of hanging them out to dry like the Pukes do.
@81
“A few righty commenters have posted the uninformed opinion that Bush’s bellicose attitude toward Muslim extremists”
Bush, to his credit, also cautioned his rabid supporters not to take out their bellicose attitude on Muslim’s generally, or on Muslims simply for being Muslims, but those racist fucks didn’t listen to that part of his speech.
Is one of Sims’ failings the recent upgrading of King county to the highest federal financial rating possible?
Goldy has amply pointed out that Irons is no “business executive”—- any more than Paris Hilton is an actress.
Sounds like an apologia for a loose cannon who refuses to follow the rules everyone else has to follow.
N.B., #94 is in reply to #82
Reply to 91
“There is a solid candidate in this race – Irons. He has 25 years of business experience, is described by his former co-workers and business associates as being of the highest integrity, and he is talking about real issues.”
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Thanks for the laughs, Jenny, I needed that.
Hey, did anyone happen to hear about the old guy that called the police to report that someone hit him in the head with an ax? Yeah, well he ended up telling the truth about it later when the ambulance got there, he fell! Think that is what happend with Irons’ mom, she made it all up and got her daughter to collaborate her bullshit story to discredit her estranged son.
You Dems are such a bunch of total idiots. The first to buy hook line and sinker anything negative in order to justify your skewed version of reality. I have to laugh and shake my head, it’s just so damn pathetic.
Maybe this has been said before, and I don’t even reside in KingCo so it doesn’t affect me, but do ya think maybe the reason you can’t get anybody to “go on record” is that you are being fed a whole shit load of allegations that are not true, overblown, have a reasonable explanation? Good grief, Don Quixote did a better job than you are right now.
How does this sound? I heard from a friend how knows somebody who works with a staffer in the building Sims is in. That nameless person also couldn’t name the person they know but they promise me they think they heard Sims call another nameless person a cracker.
Jesus Goldy. Read your own post for context and then tell us what you think about it.
And this staffer “Passinetti”? Who did she contribute to in 2001? What is her boyfriend’s job? There’s a reason she left. It’s called conflict of interest. She was a democrat working in a republican campaign.
Something really funny????? Watching Roger Rabbit go more and more ballistic as he sees the Seattle Dems dream candidate start to crumble.
Have any of you listened to any of the debates on any of the stations that have managed to get these guys together? Sims is an idiot. He hasn’t been able to answer one hard question yet. Your passion to have a democrat “in power” no matter who will end up hurting Seattle and the entire region.
Rog@93 sez:
“We handle our internal problems internally, instead of hanging them out to dry like the Pukes do.”
I guess if “handle” means to send out SHITSQUADS to lie and deceived, deny any responsiblity for any Election problems and jerk each other off about how much you hate Bush as somehow defending your incompetence…i suppose.
Marky Mark @ 84
You didn’t answer my question. I’ll repeat: what recent trial balloon did Goldy criticize and what happened afterwards?
Goldy has done the people of King County a great service by exposing the dangerous nature of the fraud that is David Irons Jr.
Clueless–@103
You are a real CLOWN…….
An unsubstantiated 11 year-old allegation from a Battle-Ax of a mother who hates her son because of his political beliefs. That’s a favor?
A meaningless conversation where Madame GoldCLOWN somehow “devines” something evil happened…….yet Madame GoldCLOWN fails to disclose this BIG SCOOP source is boning one of Sims Campaign Manager’s.
That’s a favor???
Yeah, right.
Here’s an excerpt from Janet A. Irons, David Jr’s sister, that she has apparently been trying to post on this comment thread, and claims that Goldy is blocking her from doing so:
Horseass.org has a piece this morning alleging that Denise Passinetti, a ex Irons staffer, was verbally abused and left Irons’ staff as a result. I have tried to post the following facts, but my URL is being blocked. Could you please get this out there? I confirmed this information with David this morning.
– Denise left Irons’ office for a better paying job at Boeing, that required fewer hours than her position on Irons staff.
– Denise has been romantically involved with [Rollin] Fatland for several years. She worked for him and then became his live in girlfriend some time ago.
– Fatland has worked on every Sims campaign (including this one) and will lose more than $250,000 a year in income the moment Sims is out of office.
Cynical: See 23.
It’s a free country Mr. Cynical Clown. People are free to pair up with the person of their choosing. Just ask Mary Matalin.
Republican=Crook
Brad @ 99
You made a freudian slip buddy. You mention only the two female family members who oppose Junior. You forgot the male..
David Irons Senior. He also opposes his son’s candidacy and agrees that he’s unfit for office.
I think we know where you head is at, pal.
The only time Irons’ father has spoken regarding this election was on the radio, when his wife forced on the air, and he endorsed neither candidate. Failing to endorse is a long way from “opposing”. And considering the way his wife was on the radio who can blame him for taking a non-confrontational position?! Would you want that woman mad at you? Whew…
Clueless Clown @104
Mrs. Irons hates her son because of his political beliefs? Isn’t she a Republican? Isn’t he a Republican?
But … if Mrs. Irons DOES hate her son because of his political beliefs, she’s unique among mothers. I’ve never heard of a mother hating her own child because of politics.
What is more plausible is that she dislikes her son because he beat her up.
Jenny:
Senior also stated that Junior admitted to striking his mother.
Is Senior lying? How can you support a man with a history of being abusive towards women?
jenny @ 92 Wow, don’t you think it is about time to take of the rose tinted bifocals, stop with the neocon kool aid and get your life back in order? Damn, what a mixed up nutcase
@99
“The first to buy hook line and sinker anything negative in order to justify your skewed version of reality.”
You mean like you guys did with the Swift Boat tales?
@100
“do ya think maybe the reason you can’t get anybody to “go on record” is that you are being fed a whole shit load of allegations that are not true, overblown, have a reasonable explanation”
Fear of retaliation from a psycho with a violent temper seems like a perfectly reasonable explanation to me.
You really should try to get a copy of what was said on the radio so you can see how wrong you are. The father did NOT say Irons admitted to hitting his mother. He said his son apologized but denied the mom’s story – and that he (the father) personally believed his wife’s story. How dreadful to be put in that position – picking between a spouse and a son. Irons older sister, aunts, uncles, cousins, virtually everyone else in the family, support Irons and says the mom is prone to making up stories about those she is angry at. See Irons’ website – there is a pictures of a bunch of family members waving signs for Irons. Think they’d do that if the mom was right? It’s the mom that has problems: attacking not only her son but her daughter too on the radio. Did you hear her? Mean and spiteful doesn’t really capture it. She is obviously not well and it is sad she is being used by the Sims’ campaign. Irons is qualified, well respected by those he has worked with, and a good, decent man. He deserves to be elected – and we deserve someone of his caliber leading King County.
If Passinetti thought Irons was unqualified why didn’t she speak up when he ran for re-election to the counsel? Was she living with Sims’ man Fatland then? Interesting question. Anybody know the answer?
Goldstein @33,
The bottom line for me is why should I trust you? You have no factual backup for your claims other than heresay. And there have been just as many who’ve said that Irons is a standup guy. If you had an arrest warrant, a physical abuse case, a picture of bruises from his mother, a police report, or anything at all other than heresay from people who clearly are against Irons politically, then it might be worth noting.
But, you have none of the above. You have a family dispute, in which some in the family side one way, and some the other. I don’t know about your family, but mine is split politically, and if anyone was running for office in my family, I could see family members siding one way or the other. This is not news. And if anything it’s undone by Mr. Irons Senior’s claims that he was trying to hold the family together. If he was truly trying to hold the family together, none of this would have come out. Mrs. Irons had more than ample time to file a complaint, or a case if she had wanted to, back when the alleged event occured. And it’s interesting that the feud only seemed to surface when Irons decided to run against Derdowski, with whom, Irons’ sister was affiliated. Your accusations, flimsy at best.
Then you take your current allegation. Again, not really supportable, and again, made by people with documented political opposition to Irons.
At best from what I can gather, Irons is a difficult personality, who is quite demanding. If you look in the mirror, you’d probably see the same. A lot of people, who are leaders, are difficult and create enemies. But without substantiation of any real wrongdoing, this simply makes these people frustrating. And I know Irons is frustrating to you, because he stands in the way of an obvious victory for Sims.
Of course you’ve also failed to address any real issues, where there is substantial documentation, such as Sharkansky’s meticulous counting, scanning and documentation of irregularities with provisional and absentee ballots. Go have a look for yourself. I’m very concerned about an election department that counted suspect provisionals in a rush, right before certification, and you should be as well.
I see a lot of bluster in your posts, but nothing substantial. And the fact that you would go to so much trouble to discredit Mr. Irons, if anything makes me suspicious of your motives.
@101
“Watching Roger Rabbit go more and more ballistic as he sees the Seattle Dems dream candidate start to crumble.”
If you mean Sims, he’s crumbling upward because the latest polling data indicate the race has changed from a dead heat to a 7-point Sims lead. Last I saw, it was Sims 48% to Irons 41%. Even allowing for a sampling margin of error, that’s probably insurmountable with only a couple days to go until the election.
On your other point, it’s hard to see how Roger Rabbit could become more ballistic about Republicans than he has always been. I’ve had in for you America-hating, unpatriotic, fascist thugs from Day One. No changes there.
Irons is qualified, well respected by those he has worked with, and a good, decent man. He deserves to be elected – and we deserve someone of his caliber leading King County.
Ah, an appeal to the issues I see. If that’s all it takes to be King County Executive, why, Sims should easily win. He beats Irons hands down by this mushy yardstick.
You moved the goalposts in the wrong direction.
@ 107.
I know where my head is at as well, pal. If I thought for one minute that Irons Sr. wasn’t being coerced by his evil son-hating at all costs wife, who would obviously do anything to kill her son’s political carreer, then I would have included it with the other two.
You know what pal is short for right? Personal Ass Licker. That title fits you more than it does me. As you and your America-hating, unpatriotic, fascist thugs, that share your skewed version of reality on this blog have your collective heads so far up the democraps ass, you could see out their bellybuttons!
I think the REAL question of the election is WHY IS GOLDSTEIN SO AFRAID OF/OBSESSED WITH DAVID IRONS?
16 articles in 23 days.
32 PAGES.
257 PARAGRAPHS.
71,798 WORDS, for God’s sake.
Maybe King Ron and Corrupt Sims County is paying him by the word.
I have to wonder though… does he pay THAT much attention to his daugher and her dog?
Has he written HER 32 pages of letters, 71,798 words of daddy love, 257 paragraphs of daddy encouragement and daddy praise?
I doubt it.
@ 109
But … if Mrs. Irons DOES hate her son because of his political beliefs, she’s unique among mothers. I’ve never heard of a mother hating her own child because of politics.
Are you serious? Jeezus what a load of touchey feely bullshit! I got a huge clue for you Bugs, Mothers hate their sons(or daughters) for any number of reasons. Political beliefs are definately one of those reasons. Personally I think that she hates him merely for the fact that he got elected instead of his sister, who can obviously do no wrong in her mothers eyes.
And actually what is more plausible is that she made it up, cause she is old and bitter. Just like the guy with his story about being hit with an axe.
Roger @ 93
Yeah, you handle the problems “internally” — like telling women sexually harassed by Dem Congressmen to withdraw their complaints, suck it up and live with it “for the good of the party.”
Clueless @ 103: “what recent trial balloon did Goldy criticize and what happened afterwards”
WTF are you talking about?
Typical Lefty Idiot @ 85: “It’s not, ‘infinite monkeys…’ It’s a roomful of monkeys… and an infinite amount of TIME. Kind of like the way evolution works.”
Yet again, you are WRONG. Common, modern usage of the theorem, based on the writings of Emile Borel, is infinite monkeys. Borel’s original comment had to do with a million monkeys typing ten hours a day. But what makes you even more of a pedantic jackass is that the whole thing is a metaphor in the first place!
Roger @ 90: “We don’t take orders from… Mark, MTR, Cynical,…”
That’s true. If you did, you’d be better human beings. Instead, you dutifully sip your Kool-Aid and await your next “mental download” of talking points from MorOn.org.
Roger @ 109: “I’ve never heard of a mother hating her own child because of politics.”
Try your pal Crawford Cindy. She shows how much she hates him every time she spits on his memory, the memory of the other soldiers lost and the ones serving out country now with her traitorous comments and protests. And for what? Self-aggrandizement and her 15 minutes.
await your next “mental download” of talking points from MorOn.org.
More kneejerk partisanship. Really “adult”. Roger is one of the more informed and independent-minded persons here.
WTF are you talking about?
Someone’s in need of some memory boost. Hint: Spokane
@ 120
his evil son-hating at all costs wife
Making my point…
you and your America-hating, unpatriotic, fascist thugs, that share your skewed version of reality on this blog have your collective heads so far up the democraps ass, you could see out their bellybuttons!
You’re on fire now PAL! You are a true Irons kind of voter!
Idiot @ 99
Irons’ mom took a lie detector test and passed with flying colors.
Sonny boy refuses to take the same test because he’s a pathological liar.
Personally I think that she hates him merely for the fact that he got elected instead of his sister,
Uh.. His sister wasn’t running for anything.
Clueless @ 128
Roger spends 1/4 of his posting time retyping the same talking points blather. Another 1/4 is devoted to typing “HA,” “HAR” and smiley faces. Yet another 1/4 is spent obsessing over Stefan. 3/16 are spent insulting Cynical. And, yes, 1/16 is spent on the actual topic at hand.
As for “Spokane,” thanks for refreshing my memory. That was almost a month ago and a lot of sewage has flowed through the HA pipes since then.
Now, to refresh YOUR memory, go look up my comment acknowledging Goldy’s good post (with an admitted lighthearted tweak).
Brad – just when I thought you Rethugs couldn’t get any more stupid, you really raised the bar with you apologia for mommybeater David Irons.
Even Ted Bundy’s mom loved him – and he was no David Irons.
Clueless @ 130
His sister DID run a write-in campaign against Irons. Also, Irons chose to run against family friend Derdowski — thus causing all kinds of ill-feelings toward the younger Irons.
Rabbit, I’d like to abuse you. However, you think Stef is gonna
make 35 grand off donations. The beauty of it is he can buy his
corporation a new HUMMER and write it off. $800,000 house, wait
that was this morning, $835,000 house and no taxes paid on the
HUMMER money. Note: Price increase on house do to liberal and enviromental policies. Rabbit you are retarded. You and your ilk
should move to North Korea.
Mark @ 133
Thanks for that man, Clueless really is, it would seem, well, CLUELESS! HAHA! IDIOT! CLOWN!
Keep chanting that “mommybeater” mantra though, even though there is not one, I REPEAT NOT ONE SHRED OF HARD EVIDENCE, to actually indicate that he has done so.
Oh yeah, also exactly how many democrap clowns testified “under oath” and consequently commited perjury during the election contest trial/farce earlier this year? Quite frankly, who gives a flying fuck that 140 supposed democrap voters were disenfranchised by the mistake freely admited to by Mr. Vance. How many THOUSANDS were disenfranchised when attorney general gregoire stole this election thanks in large part to Dean “The Counting Machine” Logan, AND HIS SOON TO BE OUSTED BOSS, Ron Sims?
Cry me a river, you granola eating, tree hugging, anti-american, fascist, jack booted, thugs!
Roger spends 1/4 of his posting time retyping the same talking points blather.
To respond to the trolls’ talking points. They need constant re-education. I disagree with characterizing RR’s informed opinion as talking points.
Another 1/4 is devoted to typing “HA,” “HAR” and smiley faces.
If he didn’t laugh, he’d have to cry – over the ignorance of the partisan trolls.
Yet another 1/4 is spent obsessing over Stefan.
Goldy doesn’t read SP as much so the rest of us don’t have to. RR is just filling in.
3/16 are spent insulting Cynical.
Just maintaining a healthy dialogue. Someone has to do it I guess. I wonder: has ‘LEFTIST PINHEAD’ just recently turned to ‘CLOWN’?
And, yes, 1/16 is spent on the actual topic at hand.
That certainly does add up to one. ;) I’d have to disagree with the fractions though.
Idiot @ 135
Ok smart jack-booted fascist Republican thug – which of Junior’s two council runs did sister write in for? First, second or both?
Follow up question, smart thug: did mother according to your theory start “hating” the son after the first or second council run? Hint: she couldn’t hate him before the first because it would contradict your well thought-out theory.
Feel free to shed some light here Mark..
Thug @ 135
Wow you’re on a roll your thugness! How many democrat witnesses to the election contest are sitting in jail because they committed perjury?
A couple of those witnesses were academics. Are they in jail now?
Last question your thugness: why couldn’t a Republican Judge in Chelan County tell they were giving false testimony? Why did he see things their way?
YOU ARE ONE BRIGHT, BRILLIANT IRONS KIND OF GUY YOUR THUGNESS!
Hey Mark is this guy one of the “whackos” you mentioned in a previous comment to me?
Brian Derdowski was one of the biggest chumps ever to walk the halls of the county council. No one in government had any respect for him. The sad thing is that Irons replaced him. I wonder what kind of idiot pills they take out there. Sims will win, but Gentry Lange is a good alternative for the disenfranchised.
Re Bush and Islam. Bush is a moderate towards islam. He favors a working solution. whereas people of my ilk favor deportations and all out war to roll that pseudo religion back to Mecca. There is nothign respectful about a Muslim. 10 percent of them are radicalized, 80 percent of them let radicials steer their worldwide image without a blink of an eye. there are more Paris burning sprees coming.
Mr Cynical = Roger Rabbit. They were twins separated at birth. A Karl Rovian social experiment. Someday you will hear Rove say.
Roger I am your Faaaather!!!! rasp……
Roger Rove has a ring to it.
Clueless @ 137 & 138
Yes, there seems to be some Rabbit-esque ranting to Brad’s comments. But he isn’t wrong that there is no hard evidence, per se, just allegations with no criminal complaint or medical records. I still stand by my belief that there is a LOT more to the Irons family dysfunction than the elections and his mother’s allegation. Unfortunately, Goldy has put forth this story with a Springer-esque tone rather than that of a Dr. Phil.
No, it is not a good thing for even one legitimate voter to be disenfranchised. It is also an equally bad thing for even one illegal vote to be counted.
No, a simple “whoopsie” is no excuse for sloppy work. But I don’t disagree with the goal of filtering out the “low-hanging fruit” illegal registrations in KingCo. Note that the list of 1900+ included the Eastside.
Yes, Brad and others need to “get over” the 2004 election. Just like the Left needs to get over 2004, 2000 and the 1941 election of “Pappy” O’Daniel over LBJ for Senate.
Geez….all this talk you don’t even know the history of the mom’s bizarreness! It’s fun. Follow me on this one. The mother first opposed Irons when he ran against her friend, Brian Derdowski, in the R primary in 1999. The mom came up the allegation about abuse toward the end of that Derdowski race, when Irons was ahead in the polls. (Just one of her many attacks by the way – look it up.) The mother then financed the daughter to run as a D as a write in against Irons in the general 1999 election. Irons won again…and the mom went ballistic and quit talking to Irons and his supportive sister…real rational. Mommie deareat trotted out the abuse allegations a 2nd time when Irons ran for re-election with the Derd opposing him AGAIN – claiming to be a D…lol. And now – four years later – the brillant bunch here act like it is a new story. It was discredited when Irons ran against the Derd in the primary in 1999, and again when Irons ran against the Derd in the general election in 2000. And the mom has been waaaay out there from the beginning. Irons has a lot of character witnesses, as shown in the many MSM articles about his integrity and business experience. No one has come forward to support the mom….hmmmmm….wonder why? Could it be because she is not stable and is getting worse? Follow the story, see the pattern, and then ignore it as irrelevant as it truly is. Sims is smearing Irons and this site is helping. Anybody who bases their vote on this kind of smear campaign is wasting their vote!
McWingnut @117
The bottom line for us is why should we trust you wingnuts? Everything you say is heresy.
@122
“I got a huge clue for you Bugs, Mothers hate their sons(or daughters) for any number of reasons.”
I defer to your obvious expertise in sons hated by their mothers, as I suspect you have extensive experience in this field.
Soooo … Brad … when did you stop beating your mother, or are you still doing it? Just curious.
@123
“Yeah, you handle the problems ‘internally’ – like telling women sexually harassed by Dem Congressmen to withdraw their complaints, suck it up and live with it ‘for the good of the party.'”
Why are all you Republicans liars? Is it congenital, or do you guys go to a special school for this? When our Dem politicians sexually harass women, they make them pay a large financial settlement, and retire them in disgrace. Ask Mike Lowry and Brock Adams. Wait, never mind Adams — he’s deceased.
I think there was one down in Oregon that we ran out of public life for that, too, although I can’t remember whether he was a D or R.
GOP = party of women haters and harassers
Do you guys notice how Laura always walks behind her husband? I’d like to see someone get a Democrat to walk behind her husband — ha!
@126
“Roger @ 90: “We don’t take orders from… Mark, MTR, Cynical,…”
“That’s true. If you did, you’d be better human beings.”
Who’s a human being? If you can’t tell the difference between a fluffy 8 3/4-lb. bunny with pink ears, a cute cottontail, and powerful hind legs equipped with razor-sharp claws, and a human being, then I can’t help you.
Why are all Republicans so fucking illiterate?
@126 (continued)
I’m not a “human being,” I’m “urban wildlife.”
@127
Roger @ 109: “I’ve never heard of a mother hating her own child because of politics.”
“Try your pal Crawford Cindy. She shows how much she hates him every time she spits on his memory, the memory of the other soldiers lost and the ones serving out country now with her traitorous comments and protests. And for what? Self-aggrandizement and her 15 minutes.”
Where’d you get the rabies? I don’t remember biting you. But you can bite me any time you want – hee hee.
Mark doesn’t worry me, I’ve had my shots.
@130
“His sister wasn’t running for anything.”
She was busy running from him.
Roger @ 145: “Ask Mike Lowry and Brock Adams. Wait, never mind Adams – he’s deceased.”
I thought that Lowry passed away, too. There’s a new leader in Palestine, right? ;)
@131
“Roger spends 1/4 of his posting time retyping the same talking points blather.”
You guys do it, so why can’t I? Why should Republicans be the only ones allowed to repeat the same talking points over and over? You guys want a fucking monopoly on everything. Screw you and your armadillo.
“Another 1/4 is devoted to typing ‘HA,’ ‘HAR’ and smiley faces.”
(sigh) Is there really anyone left who doesn’t know how to cut-and-paste? Okay, here goes.
CUT AND PASTE INSTRUCTIONS
1. Open a new Word document.
2. Type “HA” 3 types.
3. Place cursor over “HA HA HA” and highlight.
4. Right click once.
5. When drop-down menu appears, left click on “Copy.”
6. Move cursor to end of “HA HA HA”.
7. Right click once.
8. When drop-down menu appears, left click on “Paste.”
9. Repeat until desired number of “HA’s” are on page.
10. Commence blogging.
11. Upon reading a troll post that calls for derisive laughter, highlight the entire page of “HA HA HA’s,” click on “Copy,” move cursor to “Your Comment” box in HorsesAss page, and click on paste.
12. After you create and save your “HA HA HA” page, it takes only 3 seconds to copy-and-paste as much derisive laughter as the particular troll seems to deserve.
@131 (continued)
“Yet another 1/4 is spent obsessing over Stefan. 3/16 are spent insulting Cynical.”
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@134
So, you admit to a secret wish to abuse cute fluffy little animals. Do you fantasize about pulling the wings off monarch butterflys too, you sick fuck?
@135
“Cry me a river, you granola eating, tree hugging, anti-american, fascist, jack booted, thugs!”
You’re behind the times, Brad. We liberals don’t do this wet-eyed thing anymore. Our new SOP is to kick the living shit out of you fucking Nazis whenever we see you.
So, Stefan, are you going to SHARE the lawsuit proceeds with the generous donors who paid for the lawsuit, or pocket all the money for yourself and leave your investors in the lurch?
@138
Frankly I think that Brad guy has some personal issues.
@139
“10 percent of them are radicalized, 80 percent of them let radicials steer their worldwide image without a blink of an eye.”
Sounds like a pretty good description of pseudo-Christians, too.
@140
WTF??? I thought my paternity records were SEALED!!! I’m the good twin, Cynical is the evil twin. I’m the reason why Dad … I mean Rove … never bares his midriff in public — he has an extra belly button!!! That’s what the abusive bastard got for picking me up by my ears.
@141
Gee Mark, for a second there you had me tagging along with you … I thought you were trying to be reasonable … but it was just a ruse to suck us into your lame justification for trying to suppress voters in Democratic precincts while doing NOTHING to investigate or stop illegal voting by Republicans in Republican precincts. When you’re ready to get serious about cleaning up voter registration rolls, reducing errors, and policing illegal voting, in a nonpartisan and even-handed manner that addresses election deficiencies throughout the state (not just King County), let us know. Until then, screw you and your armadillo!
Our new SOP is to kick the living shit out of you fucking Nazis whenever we see you. Comment by Roger Rabbit— 11/5/05 @ 8:38 pm
With what? Your dirty toes hanging off the end of your Birkenstocks? News flash, babe – REAL men wear SHOES… they work well for making field goals with Roger Rove rabbits.
Peace not War, babe…. isn’t that the motto of libs, cowards, nutburgers and fruitcake fringies?
@145
“I thought that Lowry passed away, too. There’s a new leader in Palestine, right?”
What a lame remark! You sick racist bastard.
@164
Get your tetanus shot, then come see us.
What the hell are you talking about, sweetcheeks?
Time to cut off the scotch and soda (or wine cooler, as the case may be) for tonite.
Roger: Here, let me help you out with the following template. You can use it (hopefully) once, and then we’ll know your opinion on Goldy’s post. Since your opinion never changes, you can cut ‘n paste for each post, and that includes your ‘Ezkémo’ comments, too.
1. Goldy is correct!
2. Let’s see what’s going over at (un)SP: Stefan is an idiot.
3. You ‘pukes are all anti-american fasicts.
4. GOP = f r e e l o a d e r
5. Screw you and your (insert animal of choice)
6. HA HA HA HA etc.
See? Isn’t that better than the usual 75% of comments made around here?
gather then, John, you don’t mind that Bush is
A) presiding over human rights abuses on a qualitative par with Hitler and Stalin,
B) spying on American citizens who haven’t broken any laws,
C) looting the U.S. economy,
D) systematically staffing the federal government with incompetent dolts,
E) wrecking the environment,
F) aiding terrorists by attacking the wrong country,
G) looking the other way (if not participating in) treason against CIA agents,
etc. ad nauseum.
By this post, you have proven yourself to be a pathetic blind goose-stepping wingnut.
Comment by Roger Rabbit— 11/5/05 @ 10:30 am
Hey Wabbit your friends that sent you to Viet Nam had a better resume than that. Would you be so kind and post LBJ’s resume also. Your view of the world and your present fears are all due to that great President. Did you give Headless Lucy a hug today?
Before you all go to bed tonight please bend a knee and say a prayer for the kind Wabbit. With all the exictement today might stress his little ticker. Wabbit don’t forget to take your med’s, to lose you would be unbearable for the rest of your admiring friends. Headless Lucy you better run over and give him a warm good-night hug. Sweet Dreams Wabbit
Roger @ 169: Just a little late night humor…didn’t know it was going to trigger an grand mal Bush rant.
Irons gets 15% of the vote.
Carries…Carnation.
You don’t get out much, do you rugrat?
Drive around the OUTSKIRTS of the Seattle metro area…(you know, the area that will be Cascade County… the one where the Corrupt Exec doesn’t steal good citizens land) and let us know how many SIMS SIGNS you see, sweetcheeks.
Facism will pop out of the Democratic party before it does out of the Republican party. All one had to do was observe the Nov 2nd protests. The breakage anomaly is already there where Democratic gay Jews support the palestinians who wish to cut their heads off as their first priority. Can there be a more fucked up situation?
The only asshole on this blog site is the guy who writes these slanderous articles – baseless accusations with no witnesses – just rumors.
The reason why idiots like you are not taken seriously is because all you can do is write about rumors and hearsays. Where is your proof? Sorry, the unstable mother is easily offset by the well-spoken and educated sister.
And how much are you reporting to the PDC as an “in-kind” contribution to the Sims campaign?
Lastly, it is amazing to see yet another Sims ass-kisser who can’t mention one good thing that Sims has actually accomplished during his time as County Exec – the only thing that can be done is to spread lies and false accustations about his opponent.
You would make a great employee for the Seattle Times or the P.I. Your lack of journalistic talent and integrity would fit right in.
16 articles in 23 days. 32 PAGES. 257 PARAGRAPHS. 71,798 WORDS, for God’s sake.
So at that rate, with 3 days left (Sunday, Monday and Tuesday {son’t want to miss any late voters, dontcha know}) we can expect 3 more ‘Why I hate Irons’ articles out of Goldstein… 2 pages, 48 paragraphs and 13,462 more words about his current obsession.
Don’t you just know, right now he’s sitting there furiously pounding out his next outrage and accusation with a smarmy grin on his mug?
By the way, have we seen any articles, pages, paragraphs and/or words by him as to why we should vote for Sims?
Latest polls:
Irons – 53%
Sims – 42%
Other Candidates – 5%
Shoulda known better, Goldfuck.
Our new SOP is to kick the living shit out of you fucking Nazis whenever we see you. Comment by Roger Rabbit— 11/5/05 @ 8:38 pm
With what? Your dirty toes hanging off the end of your Birkenstocks? News flash, babe – REAL men wear SHOES… they work well for making field goals with Roger Rove rabbits.
Peace not War, babe…. isn’t that the motto of libs, cowards, nutburgers and fruitcake fringies?
Comment by HowCanYouBePROUDtobeAnASS— 11/5/05 @ 8:52 pm
Yo ass, urban progressives beat you rural minded redneck fucks in the first civil war and we will in the next. There are plenty of us liberals who have taken your hostility to heart and we will match you blow for blow from now on.
Go fuck yourself.
Smear campaigns are a sign of desperation. Goldy and friends don’t talk about Sims because there is nothing good to say about him – failed management and disaster after disaster in financing. And no, Sims can NOT take credit for the AAA rating. The budget was passed by the Counsel after LOTS of changes from Sims proposed get-rid-of-social-services agenda. If you don’t believe it, look it up. Irons put social services back in and the Counsel balanced the budget. Vote for the guy with integrity, who is talking issues – Irons.
Comment by Andrew Carson — 11/6/05 @ 3:13 am
What’s your source on these poll #s? I’m dying to know – SurveyUSA/KING-5? KVI? KOMO? KIRO?
Geez, we have not heard from the brilliant headlice. Must be
cable problems at tent city. I sometimes wonder if the rabbit and her had children what they would turn out like. HMMM
OK – lardASS…
He’ll carry INDEX too.
jenny – check the mirror, quick. your eyes are really green.
D
This is David Irons, Sr. writing because I’m tired of my son lying about his mother. Junior admitted to me, within minutes of the assault, that he hit his mother and knocked her to the floor. When he later denied it, I suggested both Junior and his mother take polygraph tests. His mother took the test and proved the obvious, she was not influenced by a medical condition and Junior did hit her.
This is the second time I have challenged Junior to take a polygraph. The first was when he made a false police report about his nephew. His nephew took a polygraph and proved beyond any doubt that Junior was lying. But Junior refused to be tested then and I expect him to refuse again because he can ill afford to have the truth known.
Regarding Junior assaulting his mother, no one but he, our youngest daughter, my wife and I witnessed any specifics of the violent episode. We observed the torn up office and the telephone ripped from the wall while Junior remained at the office and his mother fled in terror. And Junior’s panic call to me to come to the office immediately.
Junior has changed his story about the assault incident several times. First he admitted he struck his mother and knocked her to the floor. Next he modified the story by saying his mother walked into his arm and fell down. Then he denied hitting her and said she had a hallucinatory diabetic “seizure” and fell down; it should be noted that diabetics do not suffer seizures as Junior describes. Now Junior is denying that the assault occurred, saying, “it just didn’t happen.”
But Junior’s abuses are displayed outside the family, too. He worked for us for almost 15 years and we learned after our business sold that Junior had been swearing and throwing tools at other employees. If we had known about it at the time, he would have been fired. When we asked the employees why we hadn’t been informed of his unacceptable conduct, the men said they were afraid to report him. Intimidation is a terrible hammer.
Now we learn from subsequent work sources that Junior hasn’t changed his spots. He is still abusive and his coworkers are still reluctant to report him. Abuses usually take place when and where no witnesses are available so it is hard for the abused to find relief.
As for Junior being endorsed by aunts, uncles and cousins; the people he references, with one exception, wouldn’t recognize him on the street and certainly don’t know him. He generated the family backing just like he invented the fabricated business experience and the phony education resume.
And when we refused to help Junior on a political venture that would cost his younger sister her job, he threatened that if we didn’t help him, we would never see his three children again. We didn’t believe he would do such an abusive thing to his children or to us, but he did. We haven’t been allowed to see his daughters for over five years.
Junior professes to be a family man but taking his children’s only grandparents away defies the image of a caring parent.
Dave Irons, Sr.
Smear campaigns — like in swift boat.
Even though INDEX is in Snohomish County…Vance will get votrs outta there.
gossipy-goldy and his puppets……..so, basically what you are ALL saying is that based on the gossip you heard [or made up…more likely] you think everyone should vote for sims. how is what you are doing any different than what carlson was doing? oh, that’s right carlson actually had facts on his side. BUT…….you are still doing it? when is a judge going to tell you to shut up?
and how much are you getting paid by sims?
and you are so busy trying to get this BS out there and yet you take the time to block someone with FACTS.[thank you richard @ 105] interesting. i think it’s called propaganda goldy.
and then this real PEARL from one of goldy’s alter egoes…….
*****Yo ass, urban progressives beat you rural minded redneck fucks in the first civil war and we will in the next. There are plenty of us liberals who have taken your hostility to heart and we will match you blow for blow from now on.
Go fuck yourself.*****
this isn’t a blog…..it’s campaign headquarters for sims now.
once you start salting the mine the way you have with lies, innuendo and vicious gossip………you cease to be relevant.
and thank you jon..that was classic..and so true about rabbit/goldy.
Christmas fuck, you are in for a big surprise come tuesday.
I hope you can read this.
As a republican I’m supposed to vote for Irons but I really want what is best for King County. However, I was a citizen before I became a republican. Guess that leaves me free to vote for the best man. Since Sims is one of the first politicians I’ve observed that has the guts to stand up for what’s right, regardless of the impact on his political career, he has my vote.
jamesRV–
I’m sure you are a Republican, you asswipe……NOT!!!!!!!!!!!
Sims has the guts to stand up for incompetence in an Election Dept where guys like Sharkansky have to wait for months to get PUBLIC RECORDS and the LEFTIST PINHEADED CLOWNS get information immediately.
Go play make believe somewhere else you CLOWN!
The KingCo Circus all comes down to one key word that captures the essence of the LEFTIST PINHEADS:
clown–(n)
*** a rude ill-bred person
***a fool, jester or comedian in a play OR OTHER ENTERTAINMENT (elections are entertainment for these goofballs)
***a grotesquely dressed comedy performer in a circus.
***One who habitually plays the buffoon.
The last definition applies perfectly to the buffoon, David CLOWNstein.
The buffoons in the P-I picture, especially the one who hasn’t voted in 11 years!!! and the other CLOWN who isn’t even on the list!!!
They are CLOWNS who enjoy acting perpetually offended and being the center of attention.
I believe the term LEFTIST PINHEAD is certainly appropo….
However, the word that truly captures the essence of their foolishness is CLOWN!!
Mr. Cynical – if name calling got votes, you could probably win something. Since that isn’t the case, maybe you should look at facts. Or is that too difficult for you.
Ya see there james, the problem is, we have looked at all the evidence, plus the evidence that continues to be dug up on what seems like a daily basis. Everything you read here, is basically a bunch of propaganda. Generalizations, half-truths, and even outright lies, but hey that’s what I at least have come to expect from liberals in the state of seattle.
But hey, you go right on believing what you read here, and see on the T.V. cause it has to be the truth. When you want to wake up and take the blinders off, let the rest of us in the real world know so we can welcome you back to reality.
brad – as a conservative i almost want to believe you. then i recall the rossi lies, the vance lies, the irons lies, the bush lies, the libby lies, the cheney lies and the rove ranging fabrications. who is a good conservative to believe. i’m sure we’ll find wmd’s, it just takes time. i’m sure we’ll confirm that mrs. wilson wasn’t outed intentionally. i’m sure bush’s praise of brownie was because he really believed brownie was doing a great job.
problem is bush just doesn’t get it. and rossi, vance stoleit, irons, libby and chency follow the bush lead.
brad – what evidence? the rossi law suite? even his hand picked judge realized rossi and vance are liars. the wmd’s? the whole world knows the truth. the cia outing? wait for the other shoe to fall.
jamesRV seems like you are new here. Wellcome aboard. A little history…Cynnical Idiot married Christmas Goat back in the 50’s. Their first ‘off’ spring was Proud Ass and he never got past 8th grade. Second/third were prr/pbj twins and they were kicked out of grade school for obsessive/compulsive dissorders (they only thought about themselves and could not get along with anyone else). 4th way off spring was the recently deceased Chardonnay (RIP). the fifth/sixth and final (thank goodness for judge mandated sterilization) was another set of twins- yearight and kickmypuddybutt. These two neanderthal rednecks have been locked up in a mental institution in Western Montana for the past 16 years and once in a while they sneak out and use the internet of their neighbor boyfriend. Hope that helps you sourt out this little family of neocon talibaptist trolls that have inhabitted thisite (because all other blogs ban them for stupidity)
JP Patches…………NOW that wasn’t even funny.try to at least be humorous, okay? you couldn’t even “clear” up something [ no one asked……..] without being a bigot. talibaptist..wow, so clever.
and then you go on to make fun of mentally disabled people, gay people,christians..and i shouldn’t forget your generalization of anyone living in montana as a “redneck”.
ah…the party of peace ,love, and compassion. behold them in all their ignorant glory.
banned from sites? oh really? which ones? do tell….we are awaiting your interesting answer.
goldy is not going to do it my friend…he can only type so fast now, and he has his hands full of alter-egoes……literally.
Yep, character assassin Denise Passinetti is shacking up with top Ron Sims consultant Rollin Fatland. I verified this personally just an hour or so ago, and it looks like this may cost Mr. Fatland his opportunity to cast a vote for Ron Sims on Tuesday.
I first looked up PDC contribution reports. Ms. Passinetti’s recent contributions show her address as 318 1st Avenue, South, Apartment # 601, Seattle, Washington 98104.
Mr. Fatland’s contributions in the last two months showed at least three different addresses for himself:
216 1st Avenue, South, # 260, Seattle, Washington 98104
111 1st Avenue, South, # 601, Seattle, Washington 98104
4919 53rd Avenue, South, Seattle, Washington 98118
So then I decided to check voter registrations.
Ms. Passinetti is registered to vote at 318 1st Avenue, South, Apartment # 601, Seattle, Washington 98104.
Mr. Fatland is registered to vote at 328 1st Avenue, South, Apartment # 604, Seattle, Washington 98104.
This seemed close, but no cigar. So I decided to check out the validity of these addresses on the internet. There appeared to be a multi-story apartment building at 318 1st Avenue, South, but nothing on the even side of the 300 block of 1st Avenue, South higher than 322.
So I went down personally to look at the buildings on the 300 block of 1st Avenue South. At 318, there is a multi-story apartment building, which is labeled “Seattle Quilt Building” on the outside. 320 is Cuttysark, a business which sells marine antiques and artwork. 322 is Flury & Company, Ltd, which runs an art gallery called Jackson St Gallery. There is nothing more with higher numbers on the east even side of 300 1st Avenue South – which is the NE corner of 1st Avenue South and South Jackson Street.
The address of “328 1st Avenue, South, Apartment 604″, where Mr. Fatland claims to reside for voting purposes, is completely non-existent.
The “Seattle Quilt Building” at 318 is a security building, with a building directory and push-button intercom for access inside the outer front door. Apparently, there is no first floor at 318. The second and third floors house a number of businesses. The fourth, fifth, and sixth floors have a number of apartments: 401 to 406, 501 to 506, and 601 to 610 respectively.
The buttons marked 601 are for Fatland and Passinetti. The button marked 604 is for two entirely different last names.
I am going to file a challenge against Mr. Fatland tomorrow (which is the last day permitted) for being improperly registered at an incorrect and non-existent address. This challenge should be upheld by the canvassing board, since it is factually correct and supported by the evidence.
Unfortunately for Mr. Fatland and Mr. Sims, state law only allowed Mr. Fatland to correct his registration address through the third day before the election, which was Saturday, November 5, 2005. (Dean Logan opened the election office for special Saturday hours to allow challenged voters to do exactly that.)
So Mr. Fatland will now have to cast a challenged ballot when he goes to the polls on Tuesday (in the King County Administration Building polling place to boot!). It is now too late for him to correct his voter registration address, and his ballot should not end up getting counted.
Credit should go to both Goldy and Mr. Fatland. They both provided the inspiration for Goldy’s last minute (s)hit piece, and for my follow-up research into this matter. And if Mr. Fatland had not given an incorrect residence address (in a possible attempt to conceal his live-in relationship with Ms. Passinetti), there would be no basis to challenge his registration and take away his right to vote. And if Goldy had not come out with his (s)hit piece at the last minute, Mr. Fatland would have had time to correct his registration address.
I verified this personally just an hour or so ago
So I went down personally to look at the buildings on the 300 block of 1st Avenue South.
I am going to file a challenge against Mr. Fatland tomorrow
What an absolute waste of time, just to screw one guy out of his vote. You need to get a fucking life, Pope. Really.
LiberalDave—
FatHead is a Sims Campaign Manager. The babe he is shacking up with and likely boning is the source of a GOLDY SHITSQUAD piece.
Richard has a legitimate challenge….the residential address is wrong.
LiberalDave—……as with most liberals you have totally missed the point. ricard isn’t “screwing” anyone out of their vote. the guy, fathead, did that to himself. it’s called dishonest.
but what a classic ‘liberal’ moment you gave us there……..LOL.
typical…….you are the same guy that 40 years ago would have blamed the woman for being raped because she had the nerve to be breathing and wearing something attractive.
YOU are the one that needs to get a life ….and perhaps a few morals wouldn’t hurt either.
interesting relationships revealed in these postings!
wonder how the rich and normal are engaged these days.
and does it all change after the election?