John Barelli says:
Klake, can I introduce you to an interesting concept called the “paragraph?”
After a bit of eyestrain trying to figure out where your sentences began and ended, I gave it up as simply not worth the effort.
Oh, and didn’t you claim to be a commissioned officer last time you made the claim to military service? You certainly did not make the claim to being a Chief, and your current claim rings false. Chiefs have a brotherhood that transcends politics. No real Chief would ever play the stupid games that you do with a fellow Chief.
As to your attempting to ridicule my faith, sorry klake. It just brings a big grin to my face.
“Blessed are you when men hate you, when they exclude you and insult you, and reject your name is evil because of the Son of Man.” Luke 6:22 NRSV
I’ll pray for you. Reverent John Barelli I’m not making fun of your faith like some of your friend’s does mine. To make it perfectly clear I’m not an Officer but an NCO, Roger is the one who claims that rank. Now Chief in the Air Force is not like a Navy Chief but more like a Master Chief. Pastor John you would make a great Church Leader rather than a Choir Boy singing songs when you could be saving Soul’s. Hate is a strong word brother John. The emotion is closer to love, so don’t accuse someone of hate unless they express that emotion, and it is directed towards you. Now our friend Roger really does not hate anyone but really needs a hug and some forgiveness for his sins. Reverent John watch that word hate you falsely accuse others of it and you express it in your writings. God Bless. Chief Lake
John Barelli says:
klake, can I introduce you to an interesting concept called the “paragraph?”
After a bit of eyestrain trying to figure out where your sentences began and ended, I gave it up as simply not worth the effort.
Oh, and didn’t you claim to be a commissioned officer last time you made the claim to military service? You certainly did not make the claim to being a Chief, and your current claim rings false. Chiefs have a brotherhood that transcends politics. No real Chief would ever play the stupid games that you do with a fellow Chief.
As to your attempting to ridicule my faith, sorry klake. It just brings a big grin to my face.
“Blessed are you when men hate you, when they exclude you and insult you, and reject your name is evil because of the Son of Man.” Luke 6:22 NRSV
I’ll pray for you.
02/12/2007 at 1:33 pm
John Barelli would not use the word Bullshit. He is to polite.
I’m not.
I am more like FurBall)
Fuck you!
02/12/2007 at 6:41 pm
My left foot read for yourself.
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Mrs Carl Grossmanspews:
Ohh baby.
With all that we have GROWIN\’ on…in…
you better just tuck your wee willie winkie back into your tighty whiteys.
Sucking… isn\’t that what got us into this itchy-scratchy predicament?
dental hygiene baby, it is your friend.
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klakespews:
Now there is hope for Al Qaeda in twenty four years if they are tried in a German Court. What next pardons for the far-left supporters of Osama bin Laden in the United States when the Democrats win in 2008? Remember Jimmy Carter pardoning the Draft dodgers that went to Canada durning the Veit Nam War.
German Court Orders Release of Far-Left Terrorist
By JUDY DEMPSEY
Published: February 12, 2007
BERLIN, Feb. 12 — A German court today ordered the release of Brigitte Mohnhaupt, a leading member of the far-left terrorist Red Army Faction who has spent 24 years in prison for carrying out several kidnappings and murders in the 1970s.
The decision to release her on March 27 set off sharp protests, led by the German police union, but the ruling was welcomed by several political parties, including the Social Democrats and the Free Democrats.
Konrad Freiberg, chairman of the police union, said the court’s decision “left a bitter taste,” adding that the murders that Ms. Mohnhaupt committed would never be forgotten. Günther Beckstein, interior minister of Bavaria, also criticized the court, saying the former terrorist had shown no signs of regret.
Ms. Mohnhaupt was a leading member of the Red Army Faction, also known as the Baader-Meinhof gang, along with its founding members, Ulrike Meinhof and Andreas Baader. It began in the 1968 student protest movement but evolved into an armed struggle against capitalism. Its activities included bank robberies, bomb attacks on government buildings and American military sites, kidnappings and assassinations.
The court in the southern German city of Stuttgart stressed today that Ms. Mohnhaupt’s release was not a pardon.
Roger are you going to let a bunch of Germans steal your thunder? Hell how many bumper stickers did you sell to Free Tibet? Now China will give it away for just a Kiss.
Gere Urges Germany to Press China
The Associated Press
Monday, February 12, 2007; 10:47 AM
BERLIN — Actor Richard Gere on Monday urged Germany, which currently holds the European Union and G-8 presidencies, to press China about human rights and Tibet.
Gere, 57, a longtime advocate of the Tibetan cause, argued at a news conference that the twin presidency marks “a historic moment for Germany to step forward.”
“This is a moment of great possibility for … not just punishing but encouraging China to become part of the modern world,” he said. “Tibet should be ever-present in any discussion with China.”
China has exercised harsh rule over Tibet since communist troops marched into the country in 1950.
German Chancellor Angela Merkel has publicly raised the broader issue of human rights with Chinese leaders, saying during a visit to Beijing last May that they are “an important issue of bilateral dialogue.”
Gere was in the German capital for the annual Cinema for Peace gala, which runs alongside the Berlin film festival. It gathers together celebrities to raise funds for humanitarian organizations such as the U.N. Children’s Fund.
@1 “To make it perfectly clear I’m not an Officer but an NCO, Roger is the one who claims that rank.”
Huh? I never claimed to be an officer. Not ever! I was an enlisted shmuck.
“Now our friend Roger really does not hate anyone”
That’s not true. I hate Adolf Hitler, Jowef Stalin, Pol Pot, Idi Amin, Slobodan Milosevicz, and ____________ (fill in blank).
” … but really needs a hug and some forgiveness for his sins.”
I’ll take the hug; keep our forgiveness. I don’t neeed to be forgiven by the likes of you.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
BREAKING NEWS – 6 DEAD IN MONTANA MALL SHOOTING
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Mrs Carl Grossmanspews:
oh baby, you\’re such a little carl-one-note!
Your fav infected yeast beast, stunt cunt, hot twat needs some great BIG diversity of imagination.
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harry poonspews:
You know if we leave Iraq in 50 years because of the cowardly Liberals, al
Qaida will just be waiting to take over!
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Roger Rabbitspews:
@17 Mrs. Rabbit heard that on King 5 10:00 news. King 5’s web site has a headline saying a man randomly shot several people at a Utah (not Montana) mall, but I can’t get into the story because they want you to register. Another story says 3 people were shot dead in a Philadelphia business meeting.
Gunman Opens Fire at Trolley Square
February 12th, 2007 @ 10:00pm
KSL Team Coverage/AP
A man wearing a trench coat and toting a shotgun walked into a crowded Trolley Square tonight in Salt Lake City and opened fire. He killed five people before he was shot and killed.
\”I was working and all of a sudden I heard a shot and I saw security run by. I didn\’t really know what was going on. People just started running,\” a witness named Maya said.
Five shoppers were killed. Others were wounded. Hundreds more ran into the streets before the gunman was shot and killed. The chaos at the mall erupted at 6:45 p.m. Witnesses told us they saw the gunman, heard the shots and screaming, and saw the wounded.
\”We have six fatalities (including the gunman) and multiple victims at hospitals,\” police Detective Robin Snyder said. \”They were found throughout the mall. I don\’t know male or female or ages.\”
Fifth South and Sixth South are shut down around Trolley Square tonight. Northbound lanes on Sixth East and Seventh East are closed.
Salt Lake police are encouraging anyone who was inside the mall at the time of the shooting, who may need counseling, to call Valley Mental Health at 261-1442.
Barbara Lund was working in a store. \”We heard the gunshots. They were pretty loud. Then one of my friends came out and told me there were gunshots there.\”
The terror seemed to begin in the parking lot near the Williams Sonoma store. Two brothers leaving the mall saw a wounded youth taking shelter in a car.
\”The young boy, he ran and jumped in a car. He\’d been shot on this side, and his ear looked like meatloaf.\”
As the gunman entered the mall, he started blasting away with a shotgun. Fear and confusion spread. Police arrived within a few minutes. Hundreds of shoppers and workers took cover, hiding wherever they could. Some heard the final confrontation.
\”I heard the policeman yell, \’Drop your weapon! Police! Drop your weapon.\’ Then we heard a lot of gunshots,\” said Matt Lund.
Witnesses reported dozens of shots, perhaps 50 or more. And then silence. As some were cleared to leave by police, they saw the gunman\’s shotgun shells scattered around in front of shops.
\”As we were running towards the north side of the building, we looked to our left and there was glass shattered all over the floor next to the escalators. And maybe, it was so quick, but maybe ten bodies lying on the ground,\” said witness Clifton Black.
Melinda Gurr added, \”We were rushed out pretty quickly. We saw a bunch of bodies heaped on the floor, and there was glass everywhere. A pretty gory sight.\”
\”It was really just scary. I wanted to get out of there,\” Black said.
Salt Lake City police Detective Robin Snyder said many employees and shoppers — \”a lot of scared people\” — still were inside at 9 p.m. MST, hunkered down and waiting for a police escort. \”This is a huge area to cover,\” she said.
An antique-store owner, Barrett Dodds, 29, said he saw a man in a trench coat exchanging gunfire with a police officer outside a card store. The gunman was backed into a children\’s clothing store.
\”I saw the cops go in the store. I saw the shooter go down,\” said Dodds, who watched from the second floor.
Victims have been transported to several area hospitals. Some of the more seriously injured were taken to University Hospital.
At least four people were hospitalized. Two men in critical condition — one 50 and another 16 — were at University Hospital, spokesman Chris Nelson said. Another two people — one in critical and one in serious — were at LDS Hospital, said spokesman Jess Gomez.
Victim Information
University of Utah Hospital
Critical Condition
50-year-old male
16-year-old male
LDS Hospital
Critical Condition
one patient
Serious Condition
one patient
Salt Lake Regional Hospital
Pregnant woman treated for psychological trauma
A woman who is 32-weeks pregnant was taken to Salt Lake Regional Hospital because of severe psychological trauma.
When one of our KSL crews arrived at Trolley Square, groups of people were huddled on the corners. They\’d been evacuated and were waiting in the cold to be reunited with family, or to get their cars out of the parking lot, or their personal belongings.
We talked to a lot of those people. All were in different stores at the time of the shooting, but all heard the same thing.
\”I heard the gunshot and I saw the security guards run.\”
\”Just heard this bang. Bang, bang, bang. It was just like random shots going off.\”
\”We heard what sounded like big balloons, boxes being stamped on. You never expect gunshots. Then heard the glass doors being shot out, and the gunman coming through there. We all screamed and ran and hid in the store.\”
\”So we said to the owner of the store, \’Lock the doors. Lock the doors.\’ She did, and she turned the lights out so it looked like the store was closed.\”
Police eventually gathered all the witness inside Hard Rock Cafe to question them about what they saw.
As people ran from the mall for their lives, people also flocked to Trolley Square to see for themselves what was happening.
As KSL\’s Sam Penrod walked up to the scene, less than an hour after the shooting started, people were in tears and in shock, just wondering if this was really happening. They were also waiting for some kind of an indication that it was safe again. The victims who were inside the mall at the time of the shooting and ran for their lives just stood around, almost in disbelief. Many of them witnessed the shooting, they heard the shots, they saw people running and screaming to get out.
They told us they waited for the police to get here. The sight of the police cars was a huge relief, knowing that something could be done to end this nightmare.
With all the commotion, neighbors started coming out of their houses to see what was happening. Soon, fire trucks and ambulance after ambulance came to the scene. So did police officers. More than an hour after the shooting, reinforcements continued to arrive.
For those who were here tonight, it\’s been terrifying and traumatizing. People are going to need time to heal emotionally, to recover from such a terrible night.
Police have not identified the gunman or a motive.
Navy Yard Shooting Leaves Four Dead
Valerie Levesque Reports
Web Extra: Chopper 3 Area Scene
(CBS 3) PHILADELPHIA A gunman fatally shot three men at a business meeting before committing suicide Monday night in an office building at the old Philadelphia Navy Yard, police said.
Another man was critically injured with a gunshot wound to the abdomen, and two other men were bound with duct tape but were not seriously injured, Deputy Commissioner Richard Ross said. The victim that suffered the gunshot to the abdomen was rushed to Thomas Jefferson University Hospital.
The gunman appeared to get upset at a board of directors meeting for a company that might have been an investment firm or a marketing company, Ross said. The gunman\’s role in the company was not immediately clear, but Ross said police believed he might have been an investor.
The shooting took place in a second-floor conference room in a business at the Philadelphia Naval Business Center, part of the old Philadelphia Navy Yard, police said. Ross described the scene inside the conference room as \”utter chaos.\”
\”This is a tragic situation,\” Ross said, \”one you never hope will hit Philadelphia.\”
Police received a 911 call at about 8:30 p.m. of a shooting in Building 79 of the business park formerly known as the Navy Yard.
Police said the man, who had a semiautomatic handgun, got into an argument about \”some issue about money\” with others at the board meeting.
\”It appears from what we learned thus far is that the shooter was upset about something that was going on within the business,\” said Ross.
After the gunman shot the men in the conference room and duct-taped the two others, he shot at police, who returned fire. The gunman then moved behind a door and shot himself, police said.
One of the duct-taped men informed police that the gunman had shot himself; that man was bound tightly, Ross said.
\”The officer mentioned to me that he had to take a knife out to cut this person loose,\” Ross said.
Police did not immediately release the names of anyone involved, and were unsure of the name of the company involved.
The Philadelphia Navy Shipyard was one of the Navy\’s busiest shipbuilders during World War II, but since those years, much of the commercial shipbuilding industry has moved to Japan and South Korea where production costs are cheaper.
After 1970, the yard only refurbished military vessels, and the Navy Yard closed in 1995.
Two years later, a private company, Kvaerner, resumed commercial shipbuilding in a portion of the shipyard, which is now known as Aker Shipyard. Other areas of the Navy facility have been converted to business and office use.
Gunman kills 5 in Utah shopping mall By JENNIFER DOBNER, Associated Press Writer
39 minutes ago
SALT LAKE CITY – A man with a shotgun entered a shopping mall and began randomly shooting customers Monday night, killing five people and injuring at least four others before being killed, police said.
More than three hours later, police still were searching stores for shocked shoppers and employees who were hunkered down awaiting a safe escort from the Trolley Square mall.
\”We have six fatalities and multiple victims at hospitals,\” police Detective Robin Snyder said. \”They were found throughout the mall. I don\’t know male or female or ages.\”
At least four people were hospitalized, three in critical condition and one in serious condition, hospital spokesmen said. Two of the critically injured were a 16-year-old man and a 50-year-old man, a spokesman said.
Authorities offered few details about the shootings but said the gunman entered the enclosed mall about 6:45 p.m. MST. The two-story building, southeast of downtown, is a refurbished trolley barn, with a series of winding hallways and about 80 stores.
Antique store owner Barrett Dodds, 29, said he saw a man in a trenchcoat exchanging gunfire with a police officer outside a card store. The gunman, he said, was backed into a children\’s clothing store.
\”I saw the cops go in the store. I saw the shooter go down,\” said Dodds, who watched from the second floor.
Barb McKeown, 60, of Washington, D.C., was in another antique shop when two frantic women ran in and reported gunshots.
\”Then we heard shot after shot after shot — loud, loud, loud,\” said McKeown, saying she heard about 20. She and three other people hid under a staircase until it was safe to leave.
Many employees and shoppers — \”a lot of scared people\” — were still inside the mall hours after the shootings, waiting to leave, Snyder said.
\”This is a huge area to cover,\” she said.
Streets were blocked outside the mall as police swarmed the two-block scene. Dozens of people lingered on the sidewalk, many wrapped in blankets as they talked about what they had seen inside.
An off-duty officer from Ogden was in the mall and involved in the shooting, said Ogden police Sgt. Blaine Clifford, who declined to release the officer\’s name.
The officer was not injured, but \”I don\’t know anything more,\” Clifford said.
“Governor says viaduct ballot flawed, but won’t pull money yet
“By Associated Press
“OLYMPIA, Wash. (AP) – Gov. Chris Gregoire said Monday that Seattle’s upcoming vote on replacing the quake-damaged Alaskan Way Viaduct will be flawed and without credibility, but rejected GOP calls to shift billions of dollars in state financing to other mega-projects.
“House Transportation Chairwoman Judy Clibborn, D-Mercer Island, said the March 13 advisory vote will be largely irrelevant as Olympia moves inexorably to approve a rebuild of the elevated highway along Seattle’s downtown waterfront. …
“Gregoire acknowledged the passion of some Seattle leaders for the tunnel, but said, ‘We need to be fiscally responsible to the taxpayer. I’d also prefer a Mercedes, but I can’t afford that, either.’ …
“The governor was biting in her comments Monday about Seattle’s handling of the vote …. ‘You know, I tried to warn Seattle, she told a news conference. ‘I tried to tell them while you’re indecisive … every legislator outside of Seattle is looking at that money ….’
“Republican transportation leaders in the House and Senate said Monday that while the viaduct question is being sorted out, the money should be redirected to … a new Highway 520 bridge … and expansion of Interstate 405 ….
“Gregoire said the Seattle advisory vote won’t add much light to the Olympia debate …. ‘How do we pay credence to a ballot that says (you can vote for) Option A, Option B, all of the above or none or the above? How does one really say this is a credible ballot?’ …
God you are stupid, klake! Why would ANY lefty support Osama? Osama is as reactionary as they come! “If you don’t pray to MY God, I’ll fucking KILL you!” Sounds very Republican to me.
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Mrs Carl Grossmanspews:
Roll over and go to sleep baby… you\’re boring… don\’t forget your snore strip.
¿Comprende usted?
BORING
Poor little Carl just hates it when I make fun of him in public… he prefers it confined to our bedroom.
He doesn\\’t actually mind that I mock him, just that others know I mock him.
Sorry, baby. No nookie tonite..itchy scratchy twat rot still goin on.
Thank God.
RONALD REAGAN WAS A RACIST, before he forgot what that is…
“Southern Strategy: The race question has haunted Reagan and the GOP for decades.”
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we know a jerk when we see onespews:
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Coward!
Sucks to be you!
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Roger Rabbitspews:
@24 It’s beneath LOW to pose as another poster’s wife! Nothing is beneath our Republican trolls. Click here for photo of Republican troll: http://www.fotosearch.com/bigc.....111946.jpg
The funny thing is that he thinks that he is annoying me. All he is doing is wasting space on the servers.
He can’t be original or clever. If he was, I would be the first to acknowledge it.
It really does suck to be him.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
Nowadays every yahoo with a grudge against the world goes to a mall and drills a bunch of strangers. Just like Baghdad. At least there’s one less Bush voter tonight.
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harry poonspews:
http://crime.about.com/od/serial/p/tedbundy.htm
“A New Ted Bundy: Bundy worked on the re-election campaign of Washington’s Republican Governor Dan Evans. Evans was elected and he appointed Bundy to the Seattle Crime Prevention Advisory Committee. Bundy’s political future seemed secure, when in 1973 he became assistant to Ross Davis, chairman of the Washington State Republican Party. It was a good time in Bundy’s life. He had a girlfriend, his old girlfriend was once again in love with him, and his footing in the political arena was strong.”
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Roger Rabbitspews:
@33 Ever notice Republicans don’t want to discuss the issues?
“Republican Party Chairman Sam Walls,
who is married, was urged to drop his
candidacy for Congress when it was found he likes to dress up
in women’s clothing”
They can’t discuss the issues. They fucked them all up.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
Alaska Air Contract Baggage Handlers Arrested For Theft
“By JIM FORMAN / KING 5 News
“SEATAC, Wash. – They’re accused of stealing everything from credit cards to high-end electronics … baggage handlers at Sea-Tac Airport are busted after targeting the luggage of passengers. This isn’t the first time Menzies workers have been arrested for theft.
” … Menzies Aviation … is the same company where a KING 5 Investigators uncovered serious flaws in safety and security. Now it is dealing with charges that its workers have been stealing from passengers.
” … Port of Seattle police arrested two baggage handlers late last week …. Both suspects work for Menzies Aviation, which handles ground services for Alaska Airlines. … [T]he two cases … could just be the tip of the iceberg.
“This isn’t the first time Menzies workers have been arrested for theft. Last December in Houston, 68 looted bags were found in a Texas dumpster. The discovery led to the arrest of seven Menzies employees. …
“Chris Johnson investigated theft for Menzies at Sea-Tac before he was laid off in what he called a cost-cutting move. Johnson says before his departure he warned Menzies managers they had a theft problem. ‘They don’t want anyone to know it …,’ he said.”
Roger Rabbit Commentary: You get what you pay for, and if you fly on Alaska, you’re giving your hard-earned money to a union-busting airline that replaced its union baggage handlers with a non-union contractor that hires gang-bangers and criminals. Me, I’d rather hop to Vegas — it’s slower but I’ll have all my fur when I get there.
I’m not convinced that our trolls are even Republicans. These aren’t folks like Janet S and sgmmac, or even Mr. Sharkansky, whose garden you like to raid. (klake may be a Republican, but if he is, he should consider taking the pledge.)
The latest bunch sounds more like middle school, or perhaps some rather immature high school students, that don’t get enough supervision on daddy’s computer. They may be part of the Young Republican group at school, but they certainly aren’t old enough to vote.
Every school has these kids. Heck, my old high school actually had a group of Nazis. Really weird kids that looked like the “before” pictures on an acne cream commercial.
I’m figuring that our latest trolls are the same kind of kids. They keep this up and Goldy will eventually have to put in some sort of sign-in system. Too bad, as I’ve actually gotten to enjoy this free-for-all.
This is why the children’s computer should be out where the parents can see what is going on.
I couldn’t agree with you more. A sign-in system helped cure the TPS boards of similar anonymous, middle-schoolery. Now people have to back up what they say with the fortitude of their real name. Asinine trolling had reduced any qualitative discussion to minimal levels. Now, actual, mindful debate and exchange of views reign. No Right-wing death squads, or employment denied, so far. The “foolishness” and fear of this step is just that: silliness and misplaced anxiety.
Also: simply because you have a right to post, doesn’t mean you should or must.
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Moron Lefties Love Islamo-Nutjob\'sspews:
Who were the horsesasses singing the glories of the Dipsy Chimps and Grammy\’s…
The laugh is on you punks and the little big bitches:
Country radio won\’t forgive Dixie Chicks
Group\’s Grammy haul may even spark another backlash
Updated: 3:57 p.m. PT Feb 12, 2007
NASHVILLE, Tenn. – Country radio still isn’t ready to make nice with the Dixie Chicks.
With a haul of Grammys Sunday, the Texas trio topped their comeback from their 2003 Bush-bashing comment that turned them from superstars to pariahs — but Music Row isn’t welcoming them back into the country-music fold.
“Most country stations aren’t playing the Chicks, and they aren’t going to start now,” said Jim Jacobs, owner of WTDR-FM, a country radio station in Talladega, Ala.
The awards might have the opposite effect, sparking another radio backlash against the group. Country broadcasters said Monday that the group’s five Grammys show how out of touch the Recording Academy is from the average country fan.
“I think (the listeners) are outraged,” said Tony Lama, program director for KXNP in North Platte, Neb. “This is rural, conservative America. They are just disgusted.”
Country stations quit playing the Chicks in 2003 after singer Natalie Maines told a London audience: “Just so you know, we’re ashamed the president of the United States is from Texas.
Almost overnight, Maines became a lightning rod in the debate over the Iraq war, with conservatives blasting her for criticizing the president, especially while on foreign soil.
The Chicks sang about the controversy in their single, “Not Ready to Make Nice,” which won Grammys as record and song of the year. Their album, “Taking the Long Way,” won album of the year.
“I’m not ready to make nice. I’m not ready to back down,” Maines sang. “I’m still mad as hell, and I don’t have time to go round and round and round.”
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Moron Lefties Love Islamo-Nutjob\'sspews:
Hating America gets you accolades from lefties.
Hating America wins you prizes from lefties.
Hating America does NOT sell music or tickets.
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Mrs The NEXT future EX-Mrs Carl Grossmanspews:
Loverboy @ 37… the issue is the hot twat crotch rot you gave me, baby.
Loverboy sure gets testy when he ain\’t getting any… and the prospects are dim….
Mrs The NEXT future EX-Mrs. Carl Grossman
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Moron Lefties Love Islamo-Nutjob\'sspews:
But the rift with country-music radio seems impossibly wide. The Chicks have said they never felt at home on Music Row, even when they were a top-selling country act.
“If you’re trying to offer an olive branch to country radio, that’s not the way to do it,” said Ken Tucker, Billboard country music correspondent. “The Chicks are celebrating being the outlaws.”
Wes McShay, program director of KRMD-FM, in Bossier City, La., said country fans understand that the big stars don’t win Grammy awards.
“If you’re talking about who’s selling out 15,000-seat auditoriums, those acts are not awarded at the Grammys year after year,” McShay said.
Consider the Country Music Association awards handed out a few months ago in Nashville: Entertainer of the year went to Kenny Chesney; the other big winners were radio favorites Brooks & Dunn, Brad Paisley, Keith Urban and Rascal Flatts.
That the Chicks weren’t even nominated for a CMA award shows how narrow-minded and parochial Nashville’s Music Row can be, Maines said.
“Country music, as far as radio and the industry, they are all right there on four blocks in Nashville,” Maines said after the show Sunday.
The Dixie Chicks peaked at No. 36 on the Billboard country charts with “Not Ready to Make Nice.” That ought to disqualify them from winning best country album, said Jacobs, the Alabama radio station owner.
“How do you win country music album of the year, when country music radio is not playing you?” he said.
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Schvincter-tite'n'ritespews:
re 43: I don’t hate America. I hate Republicans. Why? Because thay take the best impulses and values of the common man and bend and twist them to give the rich even more than they have.
You are not America. You Republicans are devious traitors and your day of reckoning is soon to come.
An attack on Iran will have a huge backlash. Prepare for your political demise.
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Moron Lefties Love Islamo-Nutjob\'sspews:
The words, HOLLOW VICTORY come to mind…
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Schvincter-tite'n'ritespews:
re 44: Dixie Chicks : 5 grammies.
Tennessee Ernie Ford and Jimmie Dean: 0
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Schvincter-tite'n'ritespews:
re 46: ” … come to mind.”????????? You sure ’bout that? Willie and Waylon , and J. Cash all had their run-ins with the right wing ‘tards in the CMA.
Kiss my petoot, you posing piece of doo-doo.
“We got a convoy.” of Grammies: for the Dixie chicks. Face it. You are old and in the way. Grab that bottle of Viagra and get the hell outta here.
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Stoopid Wingnuts Betray their Childrenspews:
Count ’em. If you can. 5 grammies.
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rhp6033spews:
Personally, I don’t care about either the grammy’s or the CMA’s. If you look back on their history, you will see that those awards are simply the culmination of PR and marketing campaigns, a glorification of “pop” over substance.
They don’t reward the real artists until twenty years later, when they realize that they might die soon without ever having been recognized by the group, so they prop them up onstage for a “lifetime achievement award”.
As for the Dixie Chicks, I like some of their music, others not so much. I like a little country/folk/blues in my music, especially if its combined with a classic rock beat.
I’ve always thought it ridiculous to give any music artist or actor any special credibility regarding their political beliefs, whether it be Ted Nugent or Madonna, Charlton Heston or Jane Fonda. If they want to earn credibility in politics on their own merits, (Sting, Ronald Reagan), fine. But otherwise, I turn them off.
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Stoopid Wingnuts Betray their Childrenspews:
re 50: Jethro Tull won the first Metal Grammy. Considering songs like “We Used to Know” ans Locomotive Breath”, I think this was a very prescient choice.
Wow. This Dixie Chicks thing is still going. You righties sure seem spooked by it.
Knoxville radio stations won’t play them. Tour dates in Fresno are cancelled.
Album debuts at number one on both the Pop and Country charts.
Furious rednecks are trying to silence the Dixie Chicks by burying them in money. Dixie Chicks are scrambling for tax shelters in a desparate attempt to deal with their newfound riches.
Hey, is there some way I can make you guys that mad at me?
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Right Stuffspews:
Iraqi insurgents using Austrian rifles from Iran
By Thomas Harding, Defence Correspondent
Last Updated: 11:55am GMT 13/02/2007
U.S. officer: Iran sends Iraq bomb parts
By STEVEN R. HURST
ASSOCIATED PRESS WRITER
Iran is making decisions that may make it impossible NOT to act.
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The right’s loathing of the Dixie Chicks is curious. Country music is hardly the politically monolithic entity that Chicks-bashers seem to propose. Country icons from Merle Haggard to Tim McGraw to Willie Nelson have taken shots at Bush. They still get played on country stations (of course, some country stations, such as Seattle’s KMPS, do play the Chicks). Maybe the rightwingers target the Chicks because of their gender–women, in the traditionalist view that pervades the southern wing of country fandom, really need to just shut up and sing about such topics as cheating husbands, lost loves, and raising children. For that reason, outspoken women like the Chicks threaten the hell out of the right.
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jsa on commercial drivespews:
RS @ 55:
Iran is making decisions that may make it impossible NOT to act.
Yep.
And as we used to say back on the school playground, you and what army?
The one that’s tied down in Iraq?
The one that’s at the DMZ keeping an eye on North Korea?
Or maybe the one that’s trying to keep Afghanistan down to a controlled level of chaos?
Oooops!
Snark’s over. Let’s get to reality. One of the benefits of our enormous defense spending is the ability to project force anywhere at any time. It’s not the best way to solve problems, but force, or at least the threat of it works well when you’re dealing with difficult states like Iran or N. Korea.
Because our military is so busy in Iraq now, we have lost a large part of that ability to project force. President Rafsanjani of Iran and his government know that, as does Dear Leader Kim Jong-Il, which is why they are playing the games they are currently playing.
None of these events happen in a vacuum. The administrations’ mishandling of the military, and foreign policy have made the world a more dangerous place.
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Mrs Carl Grossmanspews:
Baby, baby, I love that I get to you, but baby, stay out of my underwear drawer… finding your pubes in my thong is not a great way to start the day.
Kisses from the soon to be EX-Mrs Carl the boring Grossman.
Years ago, we played Beatles albums backwards to get hidden messages in the music. Someone recently tried playing a country music song backwards.
He got his house back, his wife back, his truck back, his dog back and his job back.
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proud leftistspews:
JB @ 60
Since childhood, I’ve been afflicted with a deep fondness for country music. In my high school and college years, while my friends listened to sophisticated bands like Earth, Wind & Fire, Steely Dan, and Chicago, I’d go off and listen to Charlie Daniels and Johnny Cash. With time, I outed myself. Though I faced considerable ridicule after doing so, I eventually was able to overcome the shame of my affliction. Now, I can proudly say, “I love country music. Let’s hear some Loretta.”
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Stoopid Wingnuts Betray their Childrenspews:
re 55: “Iraqi insurgents using Austrian rifles from Iran”
We should go to the source and nuke the Austrians!
awww baby, as I tell you in all our fights, when I smack the shit out of you, just stay down. You really are my little dopey boy and Mommy always knows best!
Shouldn\’t you be doing your Monday chores outlined on that spreadsheet I made for you???
Mommy will be home soon and your work better be done.
Make the mikveh appointment or no sucky sucky for little wee wee, baby.
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GBSspews:
@ 64:
Blow chunks in your oxygen mask lately?
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headless lucyspews:
re 64: You are disgusting.
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Mrs Carl Grossmanspews:
Baby, should I be jealous that MY baby has 2 big mouth, little brain broads defending his wee wee willie winkie?
You are attempting draw me into a battle of wit. I have far too much honor to engage in a battle of this type with you, someone who is so completely unarmed.
Sir, if you must, if it feeds your wholly undeserving ego, you may consider yourself the victor. To boast of one upping you would only serve to diminish myself in the eyes of my listener.
Coward!
Sucks to be you!
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Mrs Carl Grossmanspews:
\”sir\”
See that deux bimbo\’s @ 65 and 66? … THAT is how you own a man.
Baby, I\’ve repeatedly told you it is completely unnecessary to debase yourself in front of your little playmates.
Got those chores done?
I hope dinner is ready or no sucky sucky for wee wee wittle carl!
Better make that two mikveh\’s.
Kisses baby… The Boss.
OH! baby, I got you a cute little shirt for valentines day… big red heart says \”MY WIFE IS ALWAYS RIGHT!\”. You will wear it tomorrow. Add it to your list, snookems.
You are attempting draw me into a battle of wit. I have far too much honor to engage in a battle of this type with you, someone who is so completely unarmed.
Sir, if you must, if it feeds your wholly undeserving ego, you may consider yourself the victor. To boast of one upping you would only serve to diminish myself in the eyes of my listener.
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Reread 68 until it sinks in. If you need help, you can always Google any words you don’t understand. For instance: honor.
Coward!
Sucks to be you.
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Mrs Carl Grossmanspews:
Oh baby, you know I don\’t sippy sip your limpy dick drip… not even on Valentines, no matter how much you beg.
klake spews:
John Barelli says:
Klake, can I introduce you to an interesting concept called the “paragraph?”
After a bit of eyestrain trying to figure out where your sentences began and ended, I gave it up as simply not worth the effort.
Oh, and didn’t you claim to be a commissioned officer last time you made the claim to military service? You certainly did not make the claim to being a Chief, and your current claim rings false. Chiefs have a brotherhood that transcends politics. No real Chief would ever play the stupid games that you do with a fellow Chief.
As to your attempting to ridicule my faith, sorry klake. It just brings a big grin to my face.
“Blessed are you when men hate you, when they exclude you and insult you, and reject your name is evil because of the Son of Man.” Luke 6:22 NRSV
I’ll pray for you.
Reverent John Barelli I’m not making fun of your faith like some of your friend’s does mine. To make it perfectly clear I’m not an Officer but an NCO, Roger is the one who claims that rank. Now Chief in the Air Force is not like a Navy Chief but more like a Master Chief. Pastor John you would make a great Church Leader rather than a Choir Boy singing songs when you could be saving Soul’s. Hate is a strong word brother John. The emotion is closer to love, so don’t accuse someone of hate unless they express that emotion, and it is directed towards you. Now our friend Roger really does not hate anyone but really needs a hug and some forgiveness for his sins. Reverent John watch that word hate you falsely accuse others of it and you express it in your writings. God Bless. Chief Lake
My Left Foot spews:
Klake, I am calling BULLSHIT on your comment at 1.
That’s all.
harry poon spews:
http://mediamatters.org/issues.....man_rights
Robertson: “Too much plastic surgery gives people “Oriental” eyes”
My Left Foot spews:
John Barelli would not use the word Bullshit. He is to polite.
I’m not.
I am more like FurBall)
Fuck you!
My Left Foot spews:
I have been reading effinunsound for months. Great blog. Very funny. If you love snark. And I do.
Mrs Carl Grossman spews:
Damn you and the crotch rot you gave me! Bring me a fucking yogurt popsicle, you unfaithful neanderthal.
Mrs Carl Grossman spews:
It was you, wasn\’t it??
Oh my mind is slip, slip, sliding away lately.
I just can\’t seem to keep my story straight.
Let\’s see….
OK I have it, now!
No dear, It\’s just a normal little ph imbalance… No, you don\’t need to be tested… Hmm? You think it looks suspiciously like an STD??
How dare YOU???
My Left Foot spews:
6 and 7
Coward.
Sucks to be you.
klake spews:
John Barelli says:
klake, can I introduce you to an interesting concept called the “paragraph?”
After a bit of eyestrain trying to figure out where your sentences began and ended, I gave it up as simply not worth the effort.
Oh, and didn’t you claim to be a commissioned officer last time you made the claim to military service? You certainly did not make the claim to being a Chief, and your current claim rings false. Chiefs have a brotherhood that transcends politics. No real Chief would ever play the stupid games that you do with a fellow Chief.
As to your attempting to ridicule my faith, sorry klake. It just brings a big grin to my face.
“Blessed are you when men hate you, when they exclude you and insult you, and reject your name is evil because of the Son of Man.” Luke 6:22 NRSV
I’ll pray for you.
02/12/2007 at 1:33 pm
http://www.horsesass.org/?p=2523#comments
My Left Foot says:
John Barelli would not use the word Bullshit. He is to polite.
I’m not.
I am more like FurBall)
Fuck you!
02/12/2007 at 6:41 pm
My left foot read for yourself.
Mrs Carl Grossman spews:
Ohh baby.
With all that we have GROWIN\’ on…in…
you better just tuck your wee willie winkie back into your tighty whiteys.
Sucking… isn\’t that what got us into this itchy-scratchy predicament?
dental hygiene baby, it is your friend.
klake spews:
Now there is hope for Al Qaeda in twenty four years if they are tried in a German Court. What next pardons for the far-left supporters of Osama bin Laden in the United States when the Democrats win in 2008? Remember Jimmy Carter pardoning the Draft dodgers that went to Canada durning the Veit Nam War.
German Court Orders Release of Far-Left Terrorist
By JUDY DEMPSEY
Published: February 12, 2007
BERLIN, Feb. 12 — A German court today ordered the release of Brigitte Mohnhaupt, a leading member of the far-left terrorist Red Army Faction who has spent 24 years in prison for carrying out several kidnappings and murders in the 1970s.
The decision to release her on March 27 set off sharp protests, led by the German police union, but the ruling was welcomed by several political parties, including the Social Democrats and the Free Democrats.
Konrad Freiberg, chairman of the police union, said the court’s decision “left a bitter taste,” adding that the murders that Ms. Mohnhaupt committed would never be forgotten. Günther Beckstein, interior minister of Bavaria, also criticized the court, saying the former terrorist had shown no signs of regret.
Ms. Mohnhaupt was a leading member of the Red Army Faction, also known as the Baader-Meinhof gang, along with its founding members, Ulrike Meinhof and Andreas Baader. It began in the 1968 student protest movement but evolved into an armed struggle against capitalism. Its activities included bank robberies, bomb attacks on government buildings and American military sites, kidnappings and assassinations.
The court in the southern German city of Stuttgart stressed today that Ms. Mohnhaupt’s release was not a pardon.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02.....?ref=world
klake spews:
Roger are you going to let a bunch of Germans steal your thunder? Hell how many bumper stickers did you sell to Free Tibet? Now China will give it away for just a Kiss.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....00510.html
Gere Urges Germany to Press China
The Associated Press
Monday, February 12, 2007; 10:47 AM
BERLIN — Actor Richard Gere on Monday urged Germany, which currently holds the European Union and G-8 presidencies, to press China about human rights and Tibet.
Gere, 57, a longtime advocate of the Tibetan cause, argued at a news conference that the twin presidency marks “a historic moment for Germany to step forward.”
“This is a moment of great possibility for … not just punishing but encouraging China to become part of the modern world,” he said. “Tibet should be ever-present in any discussion with China.”
China has exercised harsh rule over Tibet since communist troops marched into the country in 1950.
German Chancellor Angela Merkel has publicly raised the broader issue of human rights with Chinese leaders, saying during a visit to Beijing last May that they are “an important issue of bilateral dialogue.”
Gere was in the German capital for the annual Cinema for Peace gala, which runs alongside the Berlin film festival. It gathers together celebrities to raise funds for humanitarian organizations such as the U.N. Children’s Fund.
My Left Foot spews:
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Coward!
Sucks to be you.
Mrs Carl Grossman spews:
ohh baby… originality please… missionary style just ain\’t where it\’s at anymore with us hip libs.
And I told you about that sucking babe…
green teeth = no suck
icky breath = no suck
mouth sores = no suck
rough beard =
no suckoh babyMy Left Foot spews:
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Coward!
Sucks to be you!
Roger Rabbit spews:
@1 “To make it perfectly clear I’m not an Officer but an NCO, Roger is the one who claims that rank.”
Huh? I never claimed to be an officer. Not ever! I was an enlisted shmuck.
“Now our friend Roger really does not hate anyone”
That’s not true. I hate Adolf Hitler, Jowef Stalin, Pol Pot, Idi Amin, Slobodan Milosevicz, and ____________ (fill in blank).
” … but really needs a hug and some forgiveness for his sins.”
I’ll take the hug; keep our forgiveness. I don’t neeed to be forgiven by the likes of you.
Roger Rabbit spews:
BREAKING NEWS – 6 DEAD IN MONTANA MALL SHOOTING
Mrs Carl Grossman spews:
oh baby, you\’re such a little carl-one-note!
Your fav infected
yeast beast,stunt cunt, hot twat needs some great BIG diversity of imagination.harry poon spews:
You know if we leave Iraq in 50 years because of the cowardly Liberals, al
Qaida will just be waiting to take over!
Roger Rabbit spews:
@17 Mrs. Rabbit heard that on King 5 10:00 news. King 5’s web site has a headline saying a man randomly shot several people at a Utah (not Montana) mall, but I can’t get into the story because they want you to register. Another story says 3 people were shot dead in a Philadelphia business meeting.
for Roger spews:
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=888784
Gunman Opens Fire at Trolley Square
February 12th, 2007 @ 10:00pm
KSL Team Coverage/AP
A man wearing a trench coat and toting a shotgun walked into a crowded Trolley Square tonight in Salt Lake City and opened fire. He killed five people before he was shot and killed.
\”I was working and all of a sudden I heard a shot and I saw security run by. I didn\’t really know what was going on. People just started running,\” a witness named Maya said.
Five shoppers were killed. Others were wounded. Hundreds more ran into the streets before the gunman was shot and killed. The chaos at the mall erupted at 6:45 p.m. Witnesses told us they saw the gunman, heard the shots and screaming, and saw the wounded.
\”We have six fatalities (including the gunman) and multiple victims at hospitals,\” police Detective Robin Snyder said. \”They were found throughout the mall. I don\’t know male or female or ages.\”
Fifth South and Sixth South are shut down around Trolley Square tonight. Northbound lanes on Sixth East and Seventh East are closed.
Salt Lake police are encouraging anyone who was inside the mall at the time of the shooting, who may need counseling, to call Valley Mental Health at 261-1442.
Barbara Lund was working in a store. \”We heard the gunshots. They were pretty loud. Then one of my friends came out and told me there were gunshots there.\”
The terror seemed to begin in the parking lot near the Williams Sonoma store. Two brothers leaving the mall saw a wounded youth taking shelter in a car.
\”The young boy, he ran and jumped in a car. He\’d been shot on this side, and his ear looked like meatloaf.\”
As the gunman entered the mall, he started blasting away with a shotgun. Fear and confusion spread. Police arrived within a few minutes. Hundreds of shoppers and workers took cover, hiding wherever they could. Some heard the final confrontation.
\”I heard the policeman yell, \’Drop your weapon! Police! Drop your weapon.\’ Then we heard a lot of gunshots,\” said Matt Lund.
Witnesses reported dozens of shots, perhaps 50 or more. And then silence. As some were cleared to leave by police, they saw the gunman\’s shotgun shells scattered around in front of shops.
\”As we were running towards the north side of the building, we looked to our left and there was glass shattered all over the floor next to the escalators. And maybe, it was so quick, but maybe ten bodies lying on the ground,\” said witness Clifton Black.
Melinda Gurr added, \”We were rushed out pretty quickly. We saw a bunch of bodies heaped on the floor, and there was glass everywhere. A pretty gory sight.\”
\”It was really just scary. I wanted to get out of there,\” Black said.
Salt Lake City police Detective Robin Snyder said many employees and shoppers — \”a lot of scared people\” — still were inside at 9 p.m. MST, hunkered down and waiting for a police escort. \”This is a huge area to cover,\” she said.
An antique-store owner, Barrett Dodds, 29, said he saw a man in a trench coat exchanging gunfire with a police officer outside a card store. The gunman was backed into a children\’s clothing store.
\”I saw the cops go in the store. I saw the shooter go down,\” said Dodds, who watched from the second floor.
Victims have been transported to several area hospitals. Some of the more seriously injured were taken to University Hospital.
At least four people were hospitalized. Two men in critical condition — one 50 and another 16 — were at University Hospital, spokesman Chris Nelson said. Another two people — one in critical and one in serious — were at LDS Hospital, said spokesman Jess Gomez.
Victim Information
University of Utah Hospital
Critical Condition
50-year-old male
16-year-old male
LDS Hospital
Critical Condition
one patient
Serious Condition
one patient
Salt Lake Regional Hospital
Pregnant woman treated for psychological trauma
A woman who is 32-weeks pregnant was taken to Salt Lake Regional Hospital because of severe psychological trauma.
When one of our KSL crews arrived at Trolley Square, groups of people were huddled on the corners. They\’d been evacuated and were waiting in the cold to be reunited with family, or to get their cars out of the parking lot, or their personal belongings.
We talked to a lot of those people. All were in different stores at the time of the shooting, but all heard the same thing.
\”I heard the gunshot and I saw the security guards run.\”
\”Just heard this bang. Bang, bang, bang. It was just like random shots going off.\”
\”We heard what sounded like big balloons, boxes being stamped on. You never expect gunshots. Then heard the glass doors being shot out, and the gunman coming through there. We all screamed and ran and hid in the store.\”
\”So we said to the owner of the store, \’Lock the doors. Lock the doors.\’ She did, and she turned the lights out so it looked like the store was closed.\”
Police eventually gathered all the witness inside Hard Rock Cafe to question them about what they saw.
As people ran from the mall for their lives, people also flocked to Trolley Square to see for themselves what was happening.
As KSL\’s Sam Penrod walked up to the scene, less than an hour after the shooting started, people were in tears and in shock, just wondering if this was really happening. They were also waiting for some kind of an indication that it was safe again. The victims who were inside the mall at the time of the shooting and ran for their lives just stood around, almost in disbelief. Many of them witnessed the shooting, they heard the shots, they saw people running and screaming to get out.
They told us they waited for the police to get here. The sight of the police cars was a huge relief, knowing that something could be done to end this nightmare.
With all the commotion, neighbors started coming out of their houses to see what was happening. Soon, fire trucks and ambulance after ambulance came to the scene. So did police officers. More than an hour after the shooting, reinforcements continued to arrive.
For those who were here tonight, it\’s been terrifying and traumatizing. People are going to need time to heal emotionally, to recover from such a terrible night.
Police have not identified the gunman or a motive.
(The Associated Press contributed to this report)
for Roger spews:
http://cbs3.com/topstories/loc.....13744.html
Navy Yard Shooting Leaves Four Dead
Valerie Levesque Reports
Web Extra: Chopper 3 Area Scene
(CBS 3) PHILADELPHIA A gunman fatally shot three men at a business meeting before committing suicide Monday night in an office building at the old Philadelphia Navy Yard, police said.
Another man was critically injured with a gunshot wound to the abdomen, and two other men were bound with duct tape but were not seriously injured, Deputy Commissioner Richard Ross said. The victim that suffered the gunshot to the abdomen was rushed to Thomas Jefferson University Hospital.
The gunman appeared to get upset at a board of directors meeting for a company that might have been an investment firm or a marketing company, Ross said. The gunman\’s role in the company was not immediately clear, but Ross said police believed he might have been an investor.
The shooting took place in a second-floor conference room in a business at the Philadelphia Naval Business Center, part of the old Philadelphia Navy Yard, police said. Ross described the scene inside the conference room as \”utter chaos.\”
\”This is a tragic situation,\” Ross said, \”one you never hope will hit Philadelphia.\”
Police received a 911 call at about 8:30 p.m. of a shooting in Building 79 of the business park formerly known as the Navy Yard.
Police said the man, who had a semiautomatic handgun, got into an argument about \”some issue about money\” with others at the board meeting.
\”It appears from what we learned thus far is that the shooter was upset about something that was going on within the business,\” said Ross.
After the gunman shot the men in the conference room and duct-taped the two others, he shot at police, who returned fire. The gunman then moved behind a door and shot himself, police said.
One of the duct-taped men informed police that the gunman had shot himself; that man was bound tightly, Ross said.
\”The officer mentioned to me that he had to take a knife out to cut this person loose,\” Ross said.
Police did not immediately release the names of anyone involved, and were unsure of the name of the company involved.
The Philadelphia Navy Shipyard was one of the Navy\’s busiest shipbuilders during World War II, but since those years, much of the commercial shipbuilding industry has moved to Japan and South Korea where production costs are cheaper.
After 1970, the yard only refurbished military vessels, and the Navy Yard closed in 1995.
Two years later, a private company, Kvaerner, resumed commercial shipbuilding in a portion of the shipyard, which is now known as Aker Shipyard. Other areas of the Navy facility have been converted to business and office use.
for Roger spews:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....h_shooting
Gunman kills 5 in Utah shopping mall By JENNIFER DOBNER, Associated Press Writer
39 minutes ago
SALT LAKE CITY – A man with a shotgun entered a shopping mall and began randomly shooting customers Monday night, killing five people and injuring at least four others before being killed, police said.
More than three hours later, police still were searching stores for shocked shoppers and employees who were hunkered down awaiting a safe escort from the Trolley Square mall.
\”We have six fatalities and multiple victims at hospitals,\” police Detective Robin Snyder said. \”They were found throughout the mall. I don\’t know male or female or ages.\”
At least four people were hospitalized, three in critical condition and one in serious condition, hospital spokesmen said. Two of the critically injured were a 16-year-old man and a 50-year-old man, a spokesman said.
Authorities offered few details about the shootings but said the gunman entered the enclosed mall about 6:45 p.m. MST. The two-story building, southeast of downtown, is a refurbished trolley barn, with a series of winding hallways and about 80 stores.
Antique store owner Barrett Dodds, 29, said he saw a man in a trenchcoat exchanging gunfire with a police officer outside a card store. The gunman, he said, was backed into a children\’s clothing store.
\”I saw the cops go in the store. I saw the shooter go down,\” said Dodds, who watched from the second floor.
Barb McKeown, 60, of Washington, D.C., was in another antique shop when two frantic women ran in and reported gunshots.
\”Then we heard shot after shot after shot — loud, loud, loud,\” said McKeown, saying she heard about 20. She and three other people hid under a staircase until it was safe to leave.
Many employees and shoppers — \”a lot of scared people\” — were still inside the mall hours after the shootings, waiting to leave, Snyder said.
\”This is a huge area to cover,\” she said.
Streets were blocked outside the mall as police swarmed the two-block scene. Dozens of people lingered on the sidewalk, many wrapped in blankets as they talked about what they had seen inside.
An off-duty officer from Ogden was in the mall and involved in the shooting, said Ogden police Sgt. Blaine Clifford, who declined to release the officer\’s name.
The officer was not injured, but \”I don\’t know anything more,\” Clifford said.
My Left Foot spews:
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Coward!
Sucks to be you!
Roger Rabbit spews:
“Governor says viaduct ballot flawed, but won’t pull money yet
“By Associated Press
“OLYMPIA, Wash. (AP) – Gov. Chris Gregoire said Monday that Seattle’s upcoming vote on replacing the quake-damaged Alaskan Way Viaduct will be flawed and without credibility, but rejected GOP calls to shift billions of dollars in state financing to other mega-projects.
“House Transportation Chairwoman Judy Clibborn, D-Mercer Island, said the March 13 advisory vote will be largely irrelevant as Olympia moves inexorably to approve a rebuild of the elevated highway along Seattle’s downtown waterfront. …
“Gregoire acknowledged the passion of some Seattle leaders for the tunnel, but said, ‘We need to be fiscally responsible to the taxpayer. I’d also prefer a Mercedes, but I can’t afford that, either.’ …
“The governor was biting in her comments Monday about Seattle’s handling of the vote …. ‘You know, I tried to warn Seattle, she told a news conference. ‘I tried to tell them while you’re indecisive … every legislator outside of Seattle is looking at that money ….’
“Republican transportation leaders in the House and Senate said Monday that while the viaduct question is being sorted out, the money should be redirected to … a new Highway 520 bridge … and expansion of Interstate 405 ….
“Gregoire said the Seattle advisory vote won’t add much light to the Olympia debate …. ‘How do we pay credence to a ballot that says (you can vote for) Option A, Option B, all of the above or none or the above? How does one really say this is a credible ballot?’ …
Quoted under Fair Use; for complete story and/or copyright info see http://www.komotv.com/news/5771456.html
My Left Foot spews:
21 22 23
Coward!
Sucks to be you!
Roger Rabbit spews:
@11 “far-left supporters of Osama bin Laden”
God you are stupid, klake! Why would ANY lefty support Osama? Osama is as reactionary as they come! “If you don’t pray to MY God, I’ll fucking KILL you!” Sounds very Republican to me.
Mrs Carl Grossman spews:
Roll over and go to sleep baby… you\’re boring… don\’t forget your snore strip.
¿Comprende usted?
BORING
Poor little Carl just hates it when I make fun of him in public… he prefers it confined to our bedroom.
He doesn\\’t actually mind that I mock him, just that others know I mock him.
Sorry, baby. No nookie tonite..itchy scratchy twat rot still goin on.
Thank God.
I think I need a mikveh.
harry poon spews:
http://www.time.com/time/natio.....21,00.html
RONALD REAGAN WAS A RACIST, before he forgot what that is…
“Southern Strategy: The race question has haunted Reagan and the GOP for decades.”
we know a jerk when we see one spews:
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Coward!
Sucks to be you!
Roger Rabbit spews:
@24 It’s beneath LOW to pose as another poster’s wife! Nothing is beneath our Republican trolls. Click here for photo of Republican troll: http://www.fotosearch.com/bigc.....111946.jpg
My Left Foot spews:
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Echo 30
My Left Foot spews:
Roger,
The funny thing is that he thinks that he is annoying me. All he is doing is wasting space on the servers.
He can’t be original or clever. If he was, I would be the first to acknowledge it.
It really does suck to be him.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Nowadays every yahoo with a grudge against the world goes to a mall and drills a bunch of strangers. Just like Baghdad. At least there’s one less Bush voter tonight.
harry poon spews:
http://crime.about.com/od/serial/p/tedbundy.htm
“A New Ted Bundy: Bundy worked on the re-election campaign of Washington’s Republican Governor Dan Evans. Evans was elected and he appointed Bundy to the Seattle Crime Prevention Advisory Committee. Bundy’s political future seemed secure, when in 1973 he became assistant to Ross Davis, chairman of the Washington State Republican Party. It was a good time in Bundy’s life. He had a girlfriend, his old girlfriend was once again in love with him, and his footing in the political arena was strong.”
Roger Rabbit spews:
@33 Ever notice Republicans don’t want to discuss the issues?
harry poon spews:
REPUBLICAN VALUES CREATE MURDERERS AND CHILD MOLESTERS
http://www.armchairsubversive.com/
“Republican Party Chairman Sam Walls,
who is married, was urged to drop his
candidacy for Congress when it was found he likes to dress up
in women’s clothing”
My Left Foot spews:
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They can’t discuss the issues. They fucked them all up.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Alaska Air Contract Baggage Handlers Arrested For Theft
“By JIM FORMAN / KING 5 News
“SEATAC, Wash. – They’re accused of stealing everything from credit cards to high-end electronics … baggage handlers at Sea-Tac Airport are busted after targeting the luggage of passengers. This isn’t the first time Menzies workers have been arrested for theft.
” … Menzies Aviation … is the same company where a KING 5 Investigators uncovered serious flaws in safety and security. Now it is dealing with charges that its workers have been stealing from passengers.
” … Port of Seattle police arrested two baggage handlers late last week …. Both suspects work for Menzies Aviation, which handles ground services for Alaska Airlines. … [T]he two cases … could just be the tip of the iceberg.
“This isn’t the first time Menzies workers have been arrested for theft. Last December in Houston, 68 looted bags were found in a Texas dumpster. The discovery led to the arrest of seven Menzies employees. …
“Chris Johnson investigated theft for Menzies at Sea-Tac before he was laid off in what he called a cost-cutting move. Johnson says before his departure he warned Menzies managers they had a theft problem. ‘They don’t want anyone to know it …,’ he said.”
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Roger Rabbit Commentary: You get what you pay for, and if you fly on Alaska, you’re giving your hard-earned money to a union-busting airline that replaced its union baggage handlers with a non-union contractor that hires gang-bangers and criminals. Me, I’d rather hop to Vegas — it’s slower but I’ll have all my fur when I get there.
John Barelli spews:
Hi, Left Foot and Roger.
I’m not convinced that our trolls are even Republicans. These aren’t folks like Janet S and sgmmac, or even Mr. Sharkansky, whose garden you like to raid. (klake may be a Republican, but if he is, he should consider taking the pledge.)
The latest bunch sounds more like middle school, or perhaps some rather immature high school students, that don’t get enough supervision on daddy’s computer. They may be part of the Young Republican group at school, but they certainly aren’t old enough to vote.
Every school has these kids. Heck, my old high school actually had a group of Nazis. Really weird kids that looked like the “before” pictures on an acne cream commercial.
I’m figuring that our latest trolls are the same kind of kids. They keep this up and Goldy will eventually have to put in some sort of sign-in system. Too bad, as I’ve actually gotten to enjoy this free-for-all.
This is why the children’s computer should be out where the parents can see what is going on.
Laurence Ballard spews:
Good morning, Mr. Barelli,
I couldn’t agree with you more. A sign-in system helped cure the TPS boards of similar anonymous, middle-schoolery. Now people have to back up what they say with the fortitude of their real name. Asinine trolling had reduced any qualitative discussion to minimal levels. Now, actual, mindful debate and exchange of views reign. No Right-wing death squads, or employment denied, so far. The “foolishness” and fear of this step is just that: silliness and misplaced anxiety.
Also: simply because you have a right to post, doesn’t mean you should or must.
Moron Lefties Love Islamo-Nutjob\'s spews:
Who were the horsesasses singing the glories of the Dipsy Chimps and Grammy\’s…
The laugh is on you punks and the
littlebig bitches:Country radio won\’t forgive Dixie Chicks
Group\’s Grammy haul may even spark another backlash
Updated: 3:57 p.m. PT Feb 12, 2007
NASHVILLE, Tenn. – Country radio still isn’t ready to make nice with the Dixie Chicks.
With a haul of Grammys Sunday, the Texas trio topped their comeback from their 2003 Bush-bashing comment that turned them from superstars to pariahs — but Music Row isn’t welcoming them back into the country-music fold.
“Most country stations aren’t playing the Chicks, and they aren’t going to start now,” said Jim Jacobs, owner of WTDR-FM, a country radio station in Talladega, Ala.
The awards might have the opposite effect, sparking another radio backlash against the group. Country broadcasters said Monday that the group’s five Grammys show how out of touch the Recording Academy is from the average country fan.
“I think (the listeners) are outraged,” said Tony Lama, program director for KXNP in North Platte, Neb. “This is rural, conservative America. They are just disgusted.”
Country stations quit playing the Chicks in 2003 after singer Natalie Maines told a London audience: “Just so you know, we’re ashamed the president of the United States is from Texas.
Almost overnight, Maines became a lightning rod in the debate over the Iraq war, with conservatives blasting her for criticizing the president, especially while on foreign soil.
The Chicks sang about the controversy in their single, “Not Ready to Make Nice,” which won Grammys as record and song of the year. Their album, “Taking the Long Way,” won album of the year.
“I’m not ready to make nice. I’m not ready to back down,” Maines sang. “I’m still mad as hell, and I don’t have time to go round and round and round.”
Moron Lefties Love Islamo-Nutjob\'s spews:
Hating America gets you accolades from lefties.
Hating America wins you prizes from lefties.
Hating America does NOT sell music or tickets.
Mrs The NEXT future EX-Mrs Carl Grossman spews:
Loverboy @ 37… the issue is the hot twat crotch rot you gave me, baby.
Loverboy sure gets testy when he ain\’t getting any… and the prospects are dim….
MrsThe NEXT future EX-Mrs. Carl GrossmanMoron Lefties Love Islamo-Nutjob\'s spews:
But the rift with country-music radio seems impossibly wide. The Chicks have said they never felt at home on Music Row, even when they were a top-selling country act.
“If you’re trying to offer an olive branch to country radio, that’s not the way to do it,” said Ken Tucker, Billboard country music correspondent. “The Chicks are celebrating being the outlaws.”
Wes McShay, program director of KRMD-FM, in Bossier City, La., said country fans understand that the big stars don’t win Grammy awards.
“If you’re talking about who’s selling out 15,000-seat auditoriums, those acts are not awarded at the Grammys year after year,” McShay said.
Consider the Country Music Association awards handed out a few months ago in Nashville: Entertainer of the year went to Kenny Chesney; the other big winners were radio favorites Brooks & Dunn, Brad Paisley, Keith Urban and Rascal Flatts.
That the Chicks weren’t even nominated for a CMA award shows how narrow-minded and parochial Nashville’s Music Row can be, Maines said.
“Country music, as far as radio and the industry, they are all right there on four blocks in Nashville,” Maines said after the show Sunday.
The Dixie Chicks peaked at No. 36 on the Billboard country charts with “Not Ready to Make Nice.” That ought to disqualify them from winning best country album, said Jacobs, the Alabama radio station owner.
“How do you win country music album of the year, when country music radio is not playing you?” he said.
Schvincter-tite'n'rite spews:
re 43: I don’t hate America. I hate Republicans. Why? Because thay take the best impulses and values of the common man and bend and twist them to give the rich even more than they have.
You are not America. You Republicans are devious traitors and your day of reckoning is soon to come.
An attack on Iran will have a huge backlash. Prepare for your political demise.
Moron Lefties Love Islamo-Nutjob\'s spews:
The words, HOLLOW VICTORY come to mind…
Schvincter-tite'n'rite spews:
re 44: Dixie Chicks : 5 grammies.
Tennessee Ernie Ford and Jimmie Dean: 0
Schvincter-tite'n'rite spews:
re 46: ” … come to mind.”????????? You sure ’bout that? Willie and Waylon , and J. Cash all had their run-ins with the right wing ‘tards in the CMA.
Kiss my petoot, you posing piece of doo-doo.
“We got a convoy.” of Grammies: for the Dixie chicks. Face it. You are old and in the way. Grab that bottle of Viagra and get the hell outta here.
Stoopid Wingnuts Betray their Children spews:
Count ’em. If you can. 5 grammies.
rhp6033 spews:
Personally, I don’t care about either the grammy’s or the CMA’s. If you look back on their history, you will see that those awards are simply the culmination of PR and marketing campaigns, a glorification of “pop” over substance.
They don’t reward the real artists until twenty years later, when they realize that they might die soon without ever having been recognized by the group, so they prop them up onstage for a “lifetime achievement award”.
As for the Dixie Chicks, I like some of their music, others not so much. I like a little country/folk/blues in my music, especially if its combined with a classic rock beat.
I’ve always thought it ridiculous to give any music artist or actor any special credibility regarding their political beliefs, whether it be Ted Nugent or Madonna, Charlton Heston or Jane Fonda. If they want to earn credibility in politics on their own merits, (Sting, Ronald Reagan), fine. But otherwise, I turn them off.
Stoopid Wingnuts Betray their Children spews:
re 50: Jethro Tull won the first Metal Grammy. Considering songs like “We Used to Know” ans Locomotive Breath”, I think this was a very prescient choice.
Sometimes they ARE right.
My Left Foot spews:
43
Coward!
Sucks to be you!
John Barelli spews:
Wow. This Dixie Chicks thing is still going. You righties sure seem spooked by it.
Knoxville radio stations won’t play them. Tour dates in Fresno are cancelled.
Album debuts at number one on both the Pop and Country charts.
Furious rednecks are trying to silence the Dixie Chicks by burying them in money. Dixie Chicks are scrambling for tax shelters in a desparate attempt to deal with their newfound riches.
Hey, is there some way I can make you guys that mad at me?
Right Stuff spews:
Iraqi insurgents using Austrian rifles from Iran
By Thomas Harding, Defence Correspondent
Last Updated: 11:55am GMT 13/02/2007
U.S. officer: Iran sends Iraq bomb parts
By STEVEN R. HURST
ASSOCIATED PRESS WRITER
Iran is making decisions that may make it impossible NOT to act.
My Left Foot spews:
John @ 54
ROFLMAO!!!!
Very, very funny.
proud leftist spews:
54
The right’s loathing of the Dixie Chicks is curious. Country music is hardly the politically monolithic entity that Chicks-bashers seem to propose. Country icons from Merle Haggard to Tim McGraw to Willie Nelson have taken shots at Bush. They still get played on country stations (of course, some country stations, such as Seattle’s KMPS, do play the Chicks). Maybe the rightwingers target the Chicks because of their gender–women, in the traditionalist view that pervades the southern wing of country fandom, really need to just shut up and sing about such topics as cheating husbands, lost loves, and raising children. For that reason, outspoken women like the Chicks threaten the hell out of the right.
jsa on commercial drive spews:
RS @ 55:
Iran is making decisions that may make it impossible NOT to act.
Yep.
And as we used to say back on the school playground, you and what army?
The one that’s tied down in Iraq?
The one that’s at the DMZ keeping an eye on North Korea?
Or maybe the one that’s trying to keep Afghanistan down to a controlled level of chaos?
Oooops!
Snark’s over. Let’s get to reality. One of the benefits of our enormous defense spending is the ability to project force anywhere at any time. It’s not the best way to solve problems, but force, or at least the threat of it works well when you’re dealing with difficult states like Iran or N. Korea.
Because our military is so busy in Iraq now, we have lost a large part of that ability to project force. President Rafsanjani of Iran and his government know that, as does Dear Leader Kim Jong-Il, which is why they are playing the games they are currently playing.
None of these events happen in a vacuum. The administrations’ mishandling of the military, and foreign policy have made the world a more dangerous place.
Mrs Carl Grossman spews:
Baby, baby, I love that I get to you, but baby, stay out of my underwear drawer… finding your pubes in my thong is not a great way to start the day.
Kisses from the soon to be EX-Mrs Carl the boring Grossman.
Did you make me that mikveh appointment yet?
John Barelli spews:
Years ago, we played Beatles albums backwards to get hidden messages in the music. Someone recently tried playing a country music song backwards.
He got his house back, his wife back, his truck back, his dog back and his job back.
proud leftist spews:
JB @ 60
Since childhood, I’ve been afflicted with a deep fondness for country music. In my high school and college years, while my friends listened to sophisticated bands like Earth, Wind & Fire, Steely Dan, and Chicago, I’d go off and listen to Charlie Daniels and Johnny Cash. With time, I outed myself. Though I faced considerable ridicule after doing so, I eventually was able to overcome the shame of my affliction. Now, I can proudly say, “I love country music. Let’s hear some Loretta.”
Stoopid Wingnuts Betray their Children spews:
re 55: “Iraqi insurgents using Austrian rifles from Iran”
We should go to the source and nuke the Austrians!
My Left Foot spews:
59
Coward!
Sucks to be you!
Mrs Carl Grossman spews:
awww baby, as I tell you in all our fights, when I smack the shit out of you, just stay down. You really are my little dopey boy and Mommy always knows best!
Shouldn\’t you be doing your Monday chores outlined on that spreadsheet I made for you???
Mommy will be home soon and your work better be done.
Make the mikveh appointment or no sucky sucky for little wee wee, baby.
GBS spews:
@ 64:
Blow chunks in your oxygen mask lately?
headless lucy spews:
re 64: You are disgusting.
Mrs Carl Grossman spews:
Baby, should I be jealous that MY baby has 2 big mouth, little brain broads defending his wee wee willie winkie?
My Left Foot spews:
67
You are attempting draw me into a battle of wit. I have far too much honor to engage in a battle of this type with you, someone who is so completely unarmed.
Sir, if you must, if it feeds your wholly undeserving ego, you may consider yourself the victor. To boast of one upping you would only serve to diminish myself in the eyes of my listener.
Coward!
Sucks to be you!
Mrs Carl Grossman spews:
\”sir\”
See that deux bimbo\’s @ 65 and 66? … THAT is how you own a man.
Baby, I\’ve repeatedly told you it is completely unnecessary to debase yourself in front of your little playmates.
Got those chores done?
I hope dinner is ready or no sucky sucky for wee wee wittle carl!
Better make that two mikveh\’s.
Kisses baby… The Boss.
OH! baby, I got you a cute little shirt for valentines day… big red heart says \”MY WIFE IS ALWAYS RIGHT!\”. You will wear it tomorrow. Add it to your list, snookems.
Ta till later.
John Barelli spews:
Carl, I suspect that our worthless coward liar poster is “he who will not be named in my posts”.
Poor grammar, inconsistent punctuation and a fascination with you give him away. You didn’t really think he would keep his word, did you?
My Left Foot spews:
69
Reread 68 until it sinks in. If you need help, you can always Google any words you don’t understand. For instance: honor.
Coward!
Sucks to be you.
My Left Foot spews:
John,
I knew he was a liar, yes. Not sure what his facination is with me. I suspect he craves a father figure and is testing me, as children often do.
Mrs Carl Grossman spews:
Baby, how many times have I told you not to embarass me?
Use the tools button, baby, spelling and grammar.
\”facination\”
Find the correct spelling, baby and write it 100 times so it sinks in.
What time did you schedule my mikveh?
My Left Foot spews:
73
You are attempting draw me into a battle of wit. I have far too much honor to engage in a battle of this type with you, someone who is so completely unarmed.
Sir, if you must, if it feeds your wholly undeserving ego, you may consider yourself the victor. To boast of one upping you would only serve to diminish myself in the eyes of my listener.
73
Reread 68 until it sinks in. If you need help, you can always Google any words you don’t understand. For instance: honor.
Coward!
Sucks to be you.
Mrs Carl Grossman spews:
Oh baby, you know I don\’t sippy sip your limpy dick drip… not even on Valentines, no matter how much you beg.
I\’m the suckee and you are the sucker!
My Left Foot spews:
75
See 74
Coward!
Sucks to be you!