The Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally meets tonight (and every Tuesday), 8PM at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E. What better way to beat the heat than some icy cold beer, and… um… air conditioning?
Not in Seattle? Liberals will also be drinking tonight in the Tri-Cities. A full listing of Washington’s eleven Drinking Liberally chapters is available here.
UPDATE:
Almost forgot… King County Prosecutor candidate Bill Sherman will be dropping by tonight. I would publicly endorse him tonight, but I’ve pledged to keep Drinking Liberally above politics.
IF THIS IS GOOD NEWS,
WE ARE F*CKED!
Whoaaaa. Bush’s approval ratings are at 14%…. no wait, that is the democrat congress….. Nevermind. hehehehe
No better way to increase awareness of global warming than a concert by Hoobastank.
Ah, the hyena is back slobbering all over. It’s too bad your republican owners didn’t think you were worth a rabies vaccination.
I guess they would know, though…….
Hey, “Dan Rather” (you imposturing dweeb who can’t even be bothered to make up a decent name), who exactly votes for “congress” anyhow?
The thing you’re missing in trotting out public approval ratings for congress, is that most people who will express negative feelings about the legislative branch still approve of the politician they sent to office (although in your case, I hope you live in Jim McDermott’s district).
Asshat. The GOP is going down.
Hey Dan. Has Congress EVER gotten a high rating? Just wanted to know.
It was reported today that your gawd algore earned D grades in earth science in school. Apparently that’s what it takes to be an expert in “global warming”?
Figures…
The thing you’re missing in trotting out public approval ratings for congress, is that most people who will express negative feelings about the legislative branch still approve of the politician they sent to office (although in your case, I hope you live in Jim McDermott’s district).
It sure is an odd correlation. The approval rating going down around 6 months after you dems take over the congress… wait, no it isn’t heeehhe Yeah, the American people got hoodwinked again. Be prepared for the second coming of 1994.
algore’s 7 point pledge includes getting rid of electric plants that burn coal.
are you gullible fucking moonbats aware that Murka gets 50% (half) of it’s elec power from coal plants?
So what the fuck is your plan? How the fuck do you plan on replacing that capacity?
Moonbat energy policy:
no oil drilling anywhere.
no nuke plants
get rid of coal plants
What the fuck is your plan? You tried mandating wind power last fall and it failed. Do you think everybody driving a Prius will fix the problem?
This is just one example of why Murka is in so much danger from libruls. You have no fucking clue how the world works and just make shit up from your ignorant views…
Smile and bend over, Mark! Hillary is approaching with a supermajority congress in tow. You can read the news, too, and your denial won’t stop reality.
Be prepared to start paying your fair share of taxes.
Smile, Mark. We libruls certainly are, and all your trollfuck hissy fits are very amusing, so you must be VERY HAPPY if you’re willing to give us all that free mirth!!!
The Smartest Woman In The World will easily get the moonbat nomination. Go for it…
And she is 100% unelectable…
Good luck
And what exactly is my “fair share”.
From each according to his means and to each according to his needs?
yeah… thought so…
re 9: We’re counting on the “free market” to take care of things automatically. The coal plants we have now are mostly old because in the 70’s plants that were already in existence did not have to comply with the new emissions standards. So, they stopped making new plants.
So, we’re counting on the “free market” to take care of things automatically.You do believe in the free market, don’t you?
I’m just a treasure trove of information that challenges every 3×5 wingnut talking point you have in your pointed little noggin!
re 10: We are developing the plan as we go. I would say that your plan of “more of the same, now and forever” ain’t gonna last long.
re 10: It’s people like you that were shouting, “Get a horse!” in 1905.
Now that you’ve gotten used to fossil fueled and nuclear power, it’ll take us another 100 years to get you to quit dragging your feet on the present changes.
In case you were not aware of it, we will run out of nuclear fuel before we run out of fossil fuel — and that’s at the current rate of usage.
Every time I see a slug, I think of the GOP.
This exchange between me and Proud Leftist is so good, I am going to post it in every thread on HA from now on. It destroys the Publicans’ stupid talking points – period.
“I’m working really hard to understand how President Bill Clinton’s actions act as justifcation for the righties. Read this fuckwads.
If your lame ass argument is that Bill Clinton was a bad President – which is what you say – and if your argument now is that the AWOL coward GW Bush is in someway comparable to Bill Clinton, what you are actually saying is that GW Bush is NO BETTER THAN CLINTON.
Does it hurt to be that stupid? I really want to know.
proud leftist says:
RES @ 18
You’ve hit it on the nose. The rightwing fringefucks consider Clinton to be the personification of evil–indeed, he is the devil incarnate in their twisted little minds. Nonetheless, their justification for all of the Bushites’ sins is, always, “well, Clinton did it, too.” Methinks they never studied logic.”
And what’s better, is that the rightie traitor keeps pointing out that this is true. Thanks MTR. Please keep proving my point for me.
Bush approvals – 24% – Democratic Congress 49% – Publican Congress 14% – looks like America prefers Dems to Publicans any day of the week.
re 10: So, what’s YOUR plan, genius?
I need to know….
what did you moonbats do today to reduce your “carbon footprint”?
Or do you just talk a good story?
Thought so… fucking hypocrites…
Headlice – Glad ya asked…
1) Drill in ANWR
2) Drill off coast of SoCal
3) Put windmills off coast of cape cod so Ted The Swimmer can see them.
4) Build 10 new nuke elec plants per year every year for next 30 years
5) Drop kook regulations on refineries
6) Build 10 new coal plants per year every year for next 30 years
7) Eliminate ALL taxes on ALL energy companies so they can invest in new technology and new infrastructure.
8) Make the next DOE Secretary a former CEO of an energy company such as halliburton.
What’s your plan you fucking idiot?
Doesn’t matter, Mark. The libruls are coming, and are they pissed! 12 years of conservative legislation and 6 years of Bush have taught them well. Bend over and smile. You’re about to be done to as you have done. Keep shrieking and hissing and acting superior, it’s funny. Psychopaths rarely are so you’re unique in that regard.
What problem are you trying to solve pin head redneck? Do you know that PSE’s gas fired plants are idle 50% of the time, just used for peaking power?
Did you like it when the Houston Ship Canal was flammable due to refinery discharge? Or when worker die due to explosions?
And you have Halliburton in charge of national policy right now.
re 21: “7) Eliminate ALL taxes on ALL energy companies so they can invest in new technology and new infrastructure.”
What makes you think they’ll invest the money in infrastructure? What will you do if they don’t? Why do we need “private” power companies at all?
Sure… nationalize them…. that has a great track record…
Ya know… the more I think about it… the more I think you moonbats need to seriously consider my “earth axis tilt” theory of “climate change”.
Think about it…it’s hot in northern hemisphere. It’s cold in southern hemisphere. If your “greenhouse gases” were responsible, it should be warmer everywhere.
A slight shift in the tilt of earth’s axis is a far more viable explanation for this pattern. I think you guys need to consider every possible explanation before jumping on algore’s D grade earth science view.
Wouldn’t it be cool to attach rockets to the poles and move earth’s axis?
LMAO…
Wasted space at 26. Think you’re funny and smart. Demonstrate neither.
I’m still waiting… did any of you gullible hypocrites do even a token thing today to reduce your “carbon footprint”?
I did… I drove my SUV and ran my air conditioner.
MY PLAN:
BURN THE UNNATURAL GAS SPEWING OUT OF MTR’S ASS.
SHOULD POWER THE PLANET INDEFINITELY AND IT WILL MORE THAN MAKE UP FOR THE GAMBLING DEBT HE WELSHED ON.
NOT TO MENTION REMOVE THE STINK FROM AROUND HERE.
re 25: The “private” energy companies were given their charter to perform this public service for the good of all — not just themselves. We are not a money farm for private interests.
If you want to be a slavish whore to private interests — move to China or Russia.
I made another contribution to the DCC. The next demo regime will tax the shit out of your SUV. Enjoy!!!
I’M A BIG FAN OF THIS PLAN.
I AGREE WITH IT IN THE MAIN ALTHOUGH THE SPECIFICS PROBABLY AREN’T WORKABLE. BUT YOU GOT TO GIVE THE AUTHOR POINTS FOR THINKING HARD AND WORKING OUT THE NUMBERS.
MTR: IT’S WRITTEN BY AN ENGINEER AND THE GUY LEANS RIGHT WING TO BOOT. AFTER YOU’RE DONE, PAY YOUR FUCKING GAMBLING DEBT.
Testing 1,2,3
Socialist
Mark, I flew my private jet today and it was so damn nice I rolled down my window to se all my homes!
I am all for the fight on global warming, as long as it is on a “volunteer” basis and you donks do all the fighting. The soldiers who are in Irag are all volunteer. We republicans can sit back and laugh while patting each other on the back on how patriotic we are by dissenting. Ok when do we start? Woof woof
#30 We are not a money farm for private interests.
You dumb fuck
It is government OF the people, BY the people FOR the people… not government SCREW the people, as much as you may wish it.
Furthermore, PRIVATE interests are just that – get the govenment the fuck out them: get your liberal rules, regulations, mandated, diverisity and political correctness
crap out and get the fuck out of the way.
DOOFUS @ 36
WAS THE KIDDIE RAPIST A LIBERAL OR A CONSERVATIVE?
37
Keep shrieking. When the libruls get in we’ll go back to the pre-reagan corporate taxation and regulation that worked well for people. And the PEOPLE will support it. You asshole conservatives had your way for decades, and fucked it up.
Clinton is way to rightwing with the DLC bullshit, but the proper number of liberal legislators will encourage a fairer distribution of responsibilities.
Deny all you want, the numbers are there. You’re going down.
re 37: Somehow, I don’t think you are a part of the monied power elite. Somewhere along the line, you read a book.
The wrong book.
Dan Rather @ 2
You don’t give us any reason to beleive the number you pulled out of your ass.
Presidential job approval is averaging in the mid-to-high 20s:
http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm
Congress overall has job approval ratings in the mid 20s:
htt://www.pollingreport.com/CongJob.htm
But strangely enough, Democrats in Congress have a job approval rating that, depending on the poll, ranges from the mid-30s to mid-40s, considerably higher than the president:
http://www.pollingreport.com/cong_dem.htm
And when asked in a CNN poll “Do you think it is good for the country or bad for the country that the Democratic Party is in control of Congress?”, the responses were
Good 57%
Bad 31%
Neither 7%
http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm#misc
I wonder what Americans would answer if asked “Are you aware that every piece of legislation considered in the Senate is being filibustered by Republicans, effectively requiring a 60-vote margin to pass a bill?” I wonder what they woudl say?
Still a fan of the “nuclear option,” Dan?
So now that we know that Gonzales lied to Congress. And lied to Congress. And lied to Congress. And either ignored the management of the Justice Department or lied to Congress about it. And most recently, LIED TO CONGRESS about his kowledge of violations of the legal restrictions on FBI National Security Letters, why don’t we start by impeaching HIM? We’ve got him dead to rights, we can almost certainly get the votes to convict at this point, and then we can watch the Boy Blunder try to (a) FIND a candidate who would want the position and (b) tear said inept candidate limb from limb in the confirmation hearings. Good television, eh?
9 MTR
Well, Al Gore’s TEN step plan to which he referred in his Congressional testimony prposes only that we “Impose a moratorium on construction of any new coal-fired power plant not compatible with carbon capture and sequestration.” Funny how that both differs in significant ways, ways that you apparently do not understand, from “getting rid of electric plants that burn coal,” and also does not require that we “[replace] that capacity.”
Weird, huh?
21 MTR
Here’s a start:
http://fypower.org/news/?p=1017
1) Immediately freeze carbon emissions at the existing level; then implement programs to reduce it 90% by 2050.
2) Reduce taxes on employment and production, instead taxing pollution (especially CO2). These pollution taxes would raise the same amount of money, but make us more competitive by encouraging employment while discouraging pollution.
3) A portion of the revenues must be earmarked for low-income and middle class people who will have a difficult time making this transition.
4) Negotiate a strong global treaty to replace Kyoto, while working toward de facto compliance with Kyoto. Move the start date of this new treaty forward from 2012 to 2010, so the next president can act immediately, rather than waste time trying to pass Kyoto right before it expires. We have to try to get China and India to participate in the treaty. If they don’t immediately participate, we have to move forward with the treaty regardless, trusting that they will join sooner rather than later.
5) Impose a moratorium on construction of any new coal-fired power plant not compatible with carbon capture and sequestration.
6) Develop an “electranet” — a smart grid that allows individual homeowners and small businesses to create green power and sell their excess power to the utility companies at a fair price. Just as widely distributed information processing led to a large new surge of productivity, we need a law that allows widely distributed energy generation to be sold into the grid, at a rate determined not by a the utility companies, but by regulation. The goal is to create a grid that does not require huge, centralized power plants.
7) Raise CAFE standards for cars and trucks as part of a comprehensive package. Cars and trucks are a large part of the problem, but coal and buildings must be addressed at the same time.
8) Set a date for the ban of incandescent light bulbs (Power Plug, 1/31/07) that gives industry time to create alternatives. If the date is set, industry will meet this challenge.
9) Create Connie Mae, a carbon-neutral mortgage association. Connie Mae will defer the costs of things like insulation and energy efficient windows which cut carbon but are often not used by builders or renovators because they add to the upfront costs of homes, only paying for themselves after several years of energy savings.
10) The SEC should require disclosure of carbon emissions in corporate reporting.
The US military (via AP) says:
No one outside of the 25-percenters believes that we have been making progress in Iraq since 2003, yet the occurrence of wave after wave after wave after wave of spectacular attacks would ensure our complete sucess according to the logic of our military propagandists. The worse Iraq gets, the better it means our plan of victory is working.
Huh?
25 PERCENT. THAT MEANS ONE OUT OF EVERY FOUR AMERICAN YOU SEE IN THE STREET, A DINER, MOVIE HOUSE, ANYWHERE THINKS THAT SIMIAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE IS A OK.
TO ME, THAT’S SCARY!
YLB:
No insult intended, but you don’t get out much, do you? I work in a technical field where a majority of my co-workers have formal training in physical sciences. There are a few, including at least one manager, that believe that the Bible is 100% literally true. That taken, who can have trouble believing that 1/4 of the populace buys the rest of the conservative bullshit?
Anybody who believes, in spite of all the hard sciences, that the planet is 6000 years old, has no problem swallowing ANYTHING that comes with a hint of self-righteous fundamentalism attached.
CHADT: I GET OUT PLENTY. SO MANY OF US ON THIS SIDE OF THE POLITICAL FENCE SEEM TO REGARD THE “75%” FIGURE AS GOOD NEWS. AND IT IS – TO A POINT.
I GUESS I PLEAD GUILTY TO BEING A GLASS HALF EMPTY KIND OF GUY AT TIMES.
BUT BEING A WORRY WORT CAN KEEP YOU FROM FALLING INTO COMPLACENCY.
THAT 25% CAN BE AMPLIFIED BY THINGS LIKE GERRYMANDERING AND THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE.
I agree absolutely! And it is wise to realize that a huge percentage of anti-bush feeling most assuredly does NOT mean that all those people have adopted liberal views; MANY are pissed off that bush is not even worse.
49 chadt
Sure thing Chad. I mean, do you assert that the fact that the job disapproval number for Bush is 66%, the fact that the number of Americans who answer Yes to “the United States made a mistake in sending troops to Iraq” is 62%, and that fact that the number of Americans who answer “favor” to “Do you favor or oppose removing all U.S. troops from Iraq by April 1st of next year” is 71% is just coincidence, and that somehow significant numbers of conservatives disapprove of the President yet favor the war? Just seems hard to believe.
Believe what you want. If those numbers convince you that the battle is won, so be it
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