October 3, 2006
Congressman Dave Reichert
2737 78th Ave SE
Suite 202, Second Floor
Mercer Island, WA 98040Dear Congressman Reichert,
I write to you today as a constituent and mother. We cannot compromise the safety of our children and the integrity of the House of Representatives, so we must set partisanship aside and stand together on principle.
The disgraceful acts committed by former Congressman Mark Foley are a black mark on the halls of the people’s House. The inaction of the House leadership in addressing the issue only makes it worse.
Today you released a statement in support of an investigation of this matter. An investigation is called for, but insufficient. An investigation is certainly in order, so is the immediate resignation of those House leaders who knew about Mark Foley’s grossly inappropriate communications with young pages.
Today the editorial board of the Washington Times called on Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert to resign. The paper writes “Either he was grossly negligent for not taking the red flags fully into account and ordering a swift investigation, for not even remembering the order of events leading up to last week’s revelations — or he deliberately looked the other way in hopes that a brewing scandal would simply blow away…. Mr. Hastert has forfeited the confidence of the public and his party, and he cannot preside over the necessary coming investigation, an investigation that must examine his own inept performance.”
Dennis Hastert’s ineffective handling of this issue follows numerous other scandals that have plagued our Congress under his watch, including the indictment of former House Speaker Tom DeLay, the Jack Abramoff lobbying scandal and the conviction of Rep. Duke Cunningham. There’s no more room for excuses. We need a substantial change in the leadership of the House of Representatives.
I ask you to join me in calling for the resignation of Speaker Dennis Hastert.
Sincerely,
Darcy Burner
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“Today the editorial board of the Washington Times called on Speaker of the
House Dennis Hastert to resign.”
WHAAAAAT? The Moonie Gazette? The rag that prints bullshit so Limbaugh can quote it? And ABC is merrily spewing the content of all the IM messages?
I smell a rat here folks. This is looking like it might be something like the Dan Rather saga on a much larger scale. Can’t halp but wonder if this is going to be allowed to fester for another week or so, then we get some revelation that the whole thing was faked, supposedly by some Democratic staffer. And there may the makings of Rove’s “October surprise”.
It’s long since reached the point where I wouldn’t put ANYTHING past these creeps.
1 – Naaahh. An independent group was haranguing the FBI to do something a while back. The pages have IM logs.
Foley was compulsive. The R leadership looked the other way. Slam dunk.
To wingnuts: take WingNut Daily off your reading list. Joe Farrah has decided the Republicans are too liberal for him.
can you say “paranoia”?
Art,
Nothing there. The GOP wants to get this behind them, pronto. If Hastert has to take the fall, such is life. A good soldier taking one for the team. In this manner the whole sorry saga looses its most malignant political fallout, and the GOP can crow about “cleaning house” and “standing up for values” enabling them to return to prattling on about Dems being “cut-‘n-runners”.
I used this technique myself. It works. Ask Bukharin.
As we are now into day 5 of Foleygate, where is Janet S. and proudofherfatlyingthreateningass? They have yet weigh in here on this issue.
Where do you stand ladies? Hastert resign? Are you outraged at the coverup? Are you outraged at the grooming of minors? Or do you agree with Drudge and O’Lielly, it was the kids fault?
Funny how that works.
Wow, it turns out Foley was molested by a priest in his teens. Who’da thunk it?
Goldy,
Actual letter or?
Good letter by Darcy. Let’s see if Reichert has enough courtesy to respond.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15116366/
Oops now that we KNOW THAT WE KNOW Rice is a traitor, let’s see if the republicans are republicans first and Americans second or the other way around.
Pedophile = Republican
Well done Darcy, well done.
Hastert should’ve put Reichert on this case as soon as it come to his attention.
It would’ve provided Hastert with the perfect cover story.
He could’ve said I’ve got someone with law enforcement experience investigating this matter.
Given Reicherts track record of catching serial criminals, it would’ve taken Reichert 20 years to catch Foley.
Should’ve
Would’ve
Could’ve
Ahhhhh the demise of inaction, dishonesty and corruption.
@ 5:
Duhhhhh! You didn’t think they had the courage to admit when they’re wrong do you?
They’re just following their little Hitler’s lead!
Why did Denny Hastert ignore the news that a House member who was well-known to aggresively pursue House pages was e-mailing a young man who complained that it ws “sick?”
Well it’s really sad. You see, Denny Hastert has a serious drinking problem. On top of that, he was sexually molested as a teenager himself. So you can’t blame him.
I never thought I would say this, but I agree with Joe Stalin.
The best thing we can hope for is Hastert standing tall right up to November 7.
Foley’s lawyer just said on TV that “There was absolutely never any inappropriate sexual contact with any minor.”
Ummm, I think that’s an answer to the wrong question. If 16 is the age of consent, then the meaning of “is” is that we need to ask specifically whether Foley had sex with anyone under 18, and with anyone he met in the page program.
Be it noted, while we’ve all been conveniently distracted by “buggergate”, the GOP managed to hand Bush another um-de-ump billion dollars to send American soldiers only a few years older than the Congressional pages off to kill and be killed in his beloved senseless war.
I honestly don’t know which is more perverted.
Republicanics is a euphemism for perversion. It has gotten tiresome.
No one ever disputed the accuracy of Rather’s revelations, rather(hehe) they impugned the authenticity of the documents used to expose the evildoing by GWB. They never proved the documents were(hehe) doctored, but rather (hehe) that they “might” be doctored(hehe).
Wow!!!! Foley really blew it(hehe) for you flag-draped retards.
I don’t understand all this. I thought fucking the help was a good thing. Just like Bubba…
I think all you moonbats said that what he did in his personal life didn’t matter. Why does it matter now? Shit, all this guy did was write nasty e-mails. He didn’t stick his dick in the kid like Bubba did. Or do you just hate homos. Can you explain?
Hey loocy – How’s the stress level? Any luck working that “negro problem”?
“Black people can be stressful to be around 24/7. Believe me , I know.” Commentby headless lucy— 9/16/05@ 10:12 pm
Thanks Cynical though for your help with the Negro problem.
Commentby headless lucy— 9/17/05@ 7:47 am
Loocy – you got any more gems of economic theory?
…the oil industry is a zero sum game ( like checkers )
Commentby headless lucy— 4/9/06@ 2:56 pm
GBS YOU LITTLE FUCKIN PISSANT.SPEAK OF DISHONEST YOU LITTLE COWARD,I HAVE NO RESPECT FOR YOU ANYBODY WHO GETS BOOTED OUT OF THE NAVY LIKE YOU DID IS A DISGRACE.THEY SHOULD SHIP YOUR ASS TO CUBA.HELL THATS WHERE ALL YOUR FRIENDS ARE.YOU ARE TRULEY A POS.IM SURPRISED THAT WALLMART HIRED YOU,GUESS THEY DO NOT DO BACKGROUND CHECKS.
Love how Stefan is trying to FUD a cantwell story instead of dealing with the serious issue at hand…
I’ve read the IM transcripts.
Wow!
I wish I could get a boner like that Pagefucker Foley!
I have to beat up hookers for hours before I can even manage a semi-chubber.
Sorry Darcy. Don’t expect Reichert to do anything resembling acting like a leader….. He is only a little snake, in a big pit of snakes. If he hisses, he may get eaten…..
Total control party….
Bad for democracy.
Everything for the party, nothing for the people.
Did you all demand that the Democrat leadership resign when Barney Franks gave up his house seat after it was learned that he was running a prostitute ring out of his residence? Oh, wait. Franks didn’t resign.
Did you all demand that the Democrat leadership resign when Gerry Studds was caught with a 17 year old page, and resigned his seat? Darn, another one who didn’t resign in the face of scandal.
Have you all demanded that the reporter from ABC who has been sitting on all these IMs for months, and thereby putting the pages at great risk? I guess not. That’s different.
Foley should have resigned. But so should William Jefferson. And what about Cynthia McKinney? Never heard anything from any of you. Jack Murtha is not only feeding govt contracts to his brother, but he has slandered the US military troops. He also has made many quite wealthy with his pork. And the guy from West Virginia? Not a word from you. Why? Because they are Democrats, and so a lower standard of behavior is expected.
Whoo-hoo, did you hear Darcy on the Ron & Don Show tonight? Seems Reichert was slated to come on at 5:05 to discuss the Seattle Times article and Democrat charges against him but, true to his cowardly nature, he took a powder instead. So they invited Darcy on, and she kicked Reichert’s yellow ass. Plus got all that free, unanswered media time. Well done, girl! And smart move, Ron and Don – she’s a far better speaker than the empty suit!
Well, Mark, Monica was not a minor. And Janet, so “you did it too” is your best response? As for Murtha slandering troops, bullshit. He criticizes the leadership.
You guys run on that. We’ll see how it turns out.
Did you see the part where I said Foley was right to resign? I missed your part where you say, yes, I agree, and so should the dems.
I also see where Murtha holds the power in the house, doling out earmarks to those who vote as he tells them. He even has an unofficial seat in the chamber that all the Dems are scared to sit in. I wonder if Inslee, McDermott, Larsen et all kiss his a$$ the same way all the other dems do. Seems he will have a leadership position if Pelosi takes over. Just wait for the corruption fun to really start then!
You mean more corruption than Abramoff and Company?
Wasn’t so long ago Murtha was the WHite House’s favorite Democrat. Now he’s a threat. THe Democrats did make Jefferson give up his committee assignments. THey can’t make him resign (he should).
THe Republicans should take away leadership from those who deliberately hid this scandal. To so clearly put keeping powerabove morals is disgraceful. THen again they sold their fiscal principles to the highest bidder, so it’s just another step.
Should ABC fire their reporter for sitting on information about teens being preyed on? How about all the Democrats who knew about it, but decided that it was better to spring this right before the election, rather than protect the teens by outing Foley sooner?
This isn’t a partisan scandal. Pelosi was in a position to know as much as Hastert and the rest of the Republican leadership. Should she resign? Why not? Why do you assume Hastert knew, but she didn’t?
Janet S, you ignorant slut,
How was Pelosi in the same position to know?
They didn’t even tell the Democrat on the Page Board.
Boehner and Renoylds are both saying it was Haserts duty to check it out.
This is purely a GOP thing.
Loser Yellowback,
You sure seem to have a problem with the difference between consensual sex and sex with a minor. What’s wrong, never had consensual sex?
Lt. Jesus JCH ChunderHelmet at 25:
“I’ve read the IM transcripts.
Wow!
I wish I could get a boner like that Pagefucker Foley!
I have to beat up hookers for hours before I can even manage a semi-chubber. ”
I found that if I wear a crackerjack suit and sell myself to indonesian sailors claiming I’m in the Navy, I don’t even have to get s semi-chubber. But I have to call them “Tookie.”
JDB – I don’t buy it. How long has ABC known? Who told them? CREW is a Soros-owned place, so the dems were in a position to know that this was coming. I have troubles listening to the Democrats bleating about the children, when they were in an equal position to call an end to this months ago. Hastert didn’t know, and didn’t pursue it. The Democrats knew, and didn’t release the information. Which is worse?
If only Darcy was packing heat at the Capitol, sh’d have taken care of this..
Janet at 36:
Mr. Ross dismissed suggestions by some Republicans that the news was disseminated as part of a smear campaign against Mr. Foley.
“I hate to give up sources, but to the extent that I know the political parties of any of the people who helped us, it would be the same party,” Mr. Ross said, referring to Republicans.
Please give me a single piece of evidence that any one in the Democratic leadership knew more than Hastert, Boehner or Reynolds? Or knew anything before Hastert, Boehner or Reynolds. As for CREW, they gave the information ot the FBI in July. Hastert, Boehner and Reynolds did nothing until it was made public. I guess you would have rather CREW just covered it up like the GOP did?
Damn, my inner frenchman keeps getting the better of me.
Faux News Channel and the GOP knew of the ped Foley for years and held the info back fearing political consequences. These sick fucks don’t care if teens are the victim of a predator – politics is all that matters to them.
Too bad it wasn’t Janet/Pam Roach’s son who was getting courted by Foley. That would be justice.
FOX News has finally figured out how to blame the Democrats for Foley since everything else that the GOP has tried has failed today.
They just labeled him a Democrat when they cut to his picture three (3!!!) times during O’Reilly today.
I guess saying that the GOP was all right for covering it up because the Dems somehow knew everything about it anyway was just not working.
http://www.wonkette.com/politi.....mes-desper ate-measures-205075.php
Deflection-deception – GOP playbook.
Who cares whether or not Dems timed the release of this info to make political hay? The GOP did worse. They were actually in power and had the ability to stop it. The Dems had no power since the GOP controls everything.
This is the kind of deflection the righties always try. Anything to change the subject. The guy who supposedly stood for values is a homo ped. And the GOP doesn’t care.
And can anyone imagine what Faux News would do with this story if Foley were a D? There’d be a completely different tone wouldn’t there?
Hypocrite child rapists deserve to die – painfully – slowly.
Attention all Democrats, just step back and let the GOP destroy itself:
A prominent and powerful evangelical Christian leader, James Dobson, said yesterday that the Mormon faith practiced by Governor Romney of Massachusetts could pose a serious obstacle if Mr. Romney makes a bid for the Republican presidential nomination in 2008.
“I don’t believe that conservative Christians in large numbers will vote for a Mormon but that remains to be seen, I guess,” Mr. Dobson said on a syndicated radio program hosted by a conservative commentator, Laura Ingraham.
http://www.nysun.com/article/40802
Frankly, I would like to see just one example of any kind of proof for any of the RNC blastfax imaginary “facts” that Janet S throws out there.
I will not hold my breath.
WoW!!!!!!!!!!!! Foley really blew it (hehe) for the Republicans! He just kept it up and kept it up(hehe) all those years with the nubile ,young Republican male pages.
Even Foley must have known that he would eventually have to come down.(hehe)
Maybe Rush could steer him toward a good anal cyst physician.
JDB@34 ONLY WITH YOUR WIFE
Boneher:
Wow, did you find a 5th grader to help you with that one?
“We must set partisanship aside”? Give me a break. I prefer Burner to Reichert, but she should state her opinion in a press release rather than claiming it is just a nonpartisan letter from “a constituent and mother”.
I remember the Studds/Crane congressional page scandal and there were many many people, Dems and Reps, that called on both of them to resign. Both congressmen refused to resign, and the terms for removing a congressman from office did not apply. Unfortunately, after the House Ethics Committe Investigation, the committe decided on a censure.
After the censure, it was up to the voters of their states to decide whether or not to re-elect them.
Please note that a House Ethics Committee Investigation was part of this procedure.
I remember the Barney Franks case as well. Mr. Franks was asked to resign by many many people, both Dems and Reps. He refused and the House Ethics Committee Investigation and police investigation found that he had no knowledge of the prostitution ring and when he did find out about it, he immediately took steps to stop it. Because of this, the rules on removing a member of the house did not apply. He was censured. After the censure, it was up to the voters in his state to decide whether to re-elect him.
Once again there was a House Ethics Committee Investigation involved in this process.
Now please, stop with the “but..but..but..Clinton!” and the “Democrats must have done this on purpose right before the election” crap.
Here is what probably happened. A Republican lawmaker or a Republican staffer with integrity and morals is told about Mr. Foley very soon after Mr. Hastert and crew find out about it.
They wait and wait for something to be done, an ethics committee investigation or at least Mr. Foley being asked to step down from the committee, something; unfortunately it’s getting close to summer of 2006 and there is a new group of interns coming and Mr. Foley could be elected to another term of office in the fall.
So, they leak the story to the press, because they don’t want to see more pages put into this situation, hoping by this to force the issue and remove a pedophile from where they can take advantage of kids.
Here’s the thing. The Republican Party has been campaigning for years on the “WE are more moral and ethical than them. WE stand for families and America and Morality. WE have integrity and believe that no one should be able to use ‘victimhood’ to get off from crimes. WE stand for law and order.”
Rather than whining “It’s all the pages/democrats/medias/clintons fault” they should have stated firmly, as soon as they found out about Mr. Foley last year – “Mr. Foley is no longer part of the “missing and exploited children” committee.” They should have asked him to resign, and publicly launched an ethics committee investigation.
If they had done so, then they would be backing up their talk with actions. The problem they now face on this is many people in their voter base are now questioning what else they say that they aren’t backing up by actions.
Melanie Sloan says CREW told the FBI about the emails in July, right after CREW received them. What’s the FBI done between then and now? Anybody know?
” Foley should have resigned. But so should William Jefferson. And what about Cynthia McKinney? Never heard anything from any of you. Jack Murtha is not only feeding govt contracts to his brother, but he has slandered the US military troops. He also has made many quite wealthy with his pork. And the guy from West Virginia? Not a word from you. Why? Because they are Democrats, and so a lower standard of behavior is expected. ”
And gee when it comes to corruption, compared to the Republicans the Democrats are cub scouts.
Did you notice Jefferson had $$$ but no charges? What is the problem….. entrapment? Congressman Murtha tells the truth, and god the Republicans hate it when you tell the truth. Remember how they spread the rumor Scott Ritter was an agent of Saddam, and a pedofile, because he said Saddam had no WMD’s. The Republican human feces party will slander anyone telling the truth. Just look at Joe Wilson. Dan Rather got slammed by the corporate pigs for running a story that was true. Donohue’s show dropped because he actually interviewed anti war guests.
The list goes on, and on, and on….
Anyone that is still supporting Republicans these days should walk to the nearest nuthouse, and demand help!!!!!
Bunch of anti American, anti Democracy maggots.
” Melanie Sloan says CREW told the FBI about the emails in July, right after CREW received them. What’s the FBI done between then and now? Anybody know?
Commentby Emily— 10/4/06@ 5:14 am ”
The FBI is only investigating Democrats these days. Haven’t you heard? You have Abramoff running the White House, and handing out favors like balloons at the fair, and how many people in the White House have been indicted, er convicted? One. Safavian.
The FBI is a political tool of the Bush Crime Family, and nothing more. If you rob a bank they are interested, but if you steal millions from our treasury, you will never get investigated.
Republican Rule!!!
36 Janet S.
“The Democrats knew, and didn’t release the information.”
Please point us to some more convincing source that your ill-informed surmise for this, or state it as your uninformed opinion.
Who cares about Fley? All the attempts to paint Foley as a sint because he resigned and ring up 23-year-old Studds scandals (while conspicuously omitting Rep. Crane’s contemporaneous buggering of a 17-year-old female page) is off the point.
Yes, Fley was a longtime serial page chaser, and it was an open secret in the House for years, documented since 2001, and specificslly known to House leaders since last fall at around this time.
But the scandal is not Foley. The scandal is that Hastert, Reynolds, and Shimkus, and potentially more Republicans who hold all of the levers of power and who run all of the mechanisms of investigation and protection in Congress did NOTHING but sit on this until it blew up in their faces. They abandoned their responsibility to protect the House pages, violated ther oaths of office, and betrayed the trust of the American people. They do not deserve to lead.
Throw the bastards out.
“And the guy from West Virginia? ”
Glad to see that you have all the facts to your fingertips.
Apparently Janet S is the only republican who is blaming Democrats for Foley.
Amazing..hard to believe an extreme can become so extreme that even her own party leaves her out on the extreme pasture….
” 36 Janet S.
“The Democrats knew, and didn’t release the information.”
Please point us to some more convincing source that your ill-informed surmise for this, or state it as your uninformed opinion.
Commentby Daddy Love— 10/4/06@ 6:47 am ”
You know the best thing about being a liberal Janet? Every fact supports my ideology, and I don’t have to lie.
Get it?
Do you enjoy lying, or are you so drop dead loyal to the GOP that the truth matters nothing? You spew their lies to your “friends” and pretend like the dickens these lies are true.
BEING A REPUBLICAN MUST SUCK, ALL THAT LYING!!!!
The GOP is in it so deep this time, they can’t even begin to get all their lies straight.
Remember the number one rule in politics.
We are all in this alone….
Speaking of reality, this is just a symptom of the real problem. The house leadership is only worried about 2 things. Hanging on to power at any cost, and making sure the ruling class gets every advantage (taxes and otherwise), so they can increase their fortunes.
Show me where I am wrong….
Remember an IRS study showd 99% of Americans are losing ground to inflation, and the top 1% is making so much money, they more than make up for it, and the total numbers actually show the economy doing well. They are raking it in!!!!
By the way, which one of your bills has gone down because the Republicans have been in control the last 5 years? Oh I forgot. You got a muffler, and your children will have to pay for it.
Remember that Janet S is actually Pam Roach and she just quotes the party line. They get a fax from that coward Rove and repeat it over and over. But this time it won’t work. We KNOW Hastert knew because his fellow republicans ratted him out. The righties try to make everything out like it’s the media’s fault, or Bill Clinton’s fault, or the DNC’s fault.
NOPE! It’s the lying, theiving, cowardly, perverted, hypocritical republican party’s fault.
JanetS:
Why didn’t you blast ABC for lying about “The Path to 9/11?”
GOP = Gay Old Pedophiles!
~Jay Leno
How true!
YO @ 23:
Anytime you want to meet up, just name the date/time!
Pussy.
“Or do you just hate homos. Can you explain?
Commentby Mark The Redneck KENNEDY— 10/3/06@ 5:53 pm”
Sure, MTR, let me explain.
We don’t hate homosexuals, we hate pedophiles. We HATE Republicans who will sheild another Republican from investigatiion when clearly there is pedophile predatory behavior going on in the name of protecting their political power. We hate people like you who vote for Reichert that will continue this type of criminal activity against children.
Clear enough for you? You supporter of pedophilia.
When the law is being broken it’s no longer a private matter, it is by law a public matter.
When two consenting adults engage in sex, it’s a private matter. Particularly when that information comes to light via an illegal wire tapped phone call (familiar pattern) and passed on the the Special Prosecutors office, who, in turn, illegally leaks that information (familiar pattern) to the prosecution in a civil matter.
I know you won’t change your mind and that’s what makes you un-American. You, like all Republicans are with al Qeada.
Where’s your Bill Frist White Flag? Flying proudly over your mobile home?
Loser.
20- MTR
“I think all you moonbats said that what he did in his personal life didn’t matter. Why does it matter now? Shit, all this guy did was write nasty e-mails. He didn’t stick his dick in the kid like Bubba did. Or do you just hate homos. Can you explain?
Sure. And I’ll talk S-L-O-W-L-Y.
The scandal is not Foley. Think about that. The scandal is that Hastert, Reynolds, and Shimkus, and potentially more Republicans, who hold all of the levers of power and who run all of the mechanisms of investigation and protection in Congress, did NOTHING but sit on this until it blew up in their faces. They abandoned their responsibility to protect the House pages, they violated ther oaths of office, and they betrayed the trust of the American people. They do not deserve to lead.
Throw the bastards out.
E-3 GBS, Been many years and I had little to do with missiles. My experience was Newport Class LSTs in the Western Pacific [home based in San Diego, Ca] In Gunnery (something that an old-timer like me would know more about) you have terminology like “Hangfire” and “Misfire”. I would assume that in missiles it would be the same – but would not swear to it. If you have a “hangfire”, you wait a length of time (5 mins unless you have a HOT GUN) to see if it will be a delayed fire. If after 5 mins, the projectile does not leave the barrel on its own, you classify it as a misfire and take other steps to remove the round (open breech and remove). However, if you have a hangfire in a hot gun (determined by the number of rounds fired in a specific length of time), you would take other steps because of the concern for a “cook-off” due to the projectile/powder case sitting in a hot barrel. The steps include external and internal cooling of the barrel. We trained by cooling the barrel with fresh and salt water. Again, 3 inch/50s have little to do with today’s weapons. That was your last question, E-3 GBS. Report to your LPO ASAP!!!
MSNBC: Bush’s job approval rating is at 39 percent
Wall Street Journal/NBC: Bush’s job approval rating is at 39 percent
CNN: Bush’s job approval rating is at 39 percent
MSNBC: Bush’s job approval rating is at 39 percent
Oh, come on. That’s just one (CLEARLY biased) poll.
Wall Street Journal/NBC: Bush’s job approval rating is at 39 percent
Oh, come on. That’s just one (CLEARLY biased) poll.
CNN: Bush’s job approval rating is at 39 percent
Oh, come on. That’s just one (CLEARLY biased) poll.
“No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.”
Hey Darcy, if you are running for the US Congress, shouldn’t you be more interested in holding up the US Constitution? Take a careful read here folks. Look especially at those magic words…. Due Process. Isn’t this the same website that has been bitching that the Patriot Act is wrong and that it breaks down our constitutional rights, specifically illegal search and seizure? So you Dems only want part of the constitution enforced, when it benefits you and your political goals? Come down off your high horse and let the process take its course. If Hastert is shown to have had knowledge of this horrible act, committed by a US Congressman, then I will personally join you in requesting his resignation not only as the Speaker, but from Congress as well. But asking a former sheriff to disregard the law, and convict based on an incomplete report, is not only foolish, but unethical.
#67 – oh yes, the Republican leadership is the standard-bearer for upholding the Constitution.
You do realize, though, that refers to conviction / trial, not holding an elected office? Different issues.
Has Sheriff Hairspray responded yet?
And if Speaker Hastert were represented by a Union, what do you think the process would be? Ummmm let’s see, an Investigation, Charges, an appeal of Charges, and then possibly arbitration. But the first act, in everything is a thourough investigation. NOT charges. Are your guys this hypocritical in your real life, or just on here?
Darcy who? Darcy Burner? Who the hell is that?
nope, not buying. Apples and oranges.
Due process under a court of law, YES of course no question.
But resigning from a leadership position in Congress? Yes of course no question.
Same standard we should hold Rep William “freeze dried money” Jefferson to.
RH,
So you believe that if someone is “ACCUSED” of something, they should resign? I accuse you of being a hypocrite. Will you quit your job? Come on man, it’s called COMMON SENSE. When/if there is evidence of wrong doing, then I agree. But so far, there is only accusations. Wait for an official investigation, wait for all of the facts to come out, then pass judgement. Why do you insist on passing judgement based on an incomplete investigation with no hard evidence, yet? Tell me, when Clinton was accused of wrongdoing under Whitewater, did you call for his resignation? Or did you use common sense, and decide to wait until all of the facts were presented and then reached your a decision?
It’s for the Children.
*cough*Bullshit*cough*
67 Union Fireperson
“ If Hastert is shown to have had knowledge of this horrible act”
You mean if, say, the House Majority Leader, the Charirman of the House Page Board, and the Representative who heads up the House Republican Congressional Committee say he knew? Or would that not satisfy you?
72 Union Fireperson
Hey, you’ve got me convinced. Are you going to tell all the Republicans who are claiming it’s a Democratic, George-Soros-backed election-year trick to wait for an official investigation, wait for all of the facts to come out, then pass judgement?
Are you going to tell the parents of Congressional pages that they should Wait for an official investigation, wait for all of the facts to come out, then pass judgement?
No? You’re just going to tell the people who have already heard three top House republicnas say they told the Speaker and he did nothing that we don’t really know that this is true.
Union Fireperson
I’ll be sure to wait for the investigation because God knows I wouldn’t want to believe this just because it’s the guy closest to all the principals who’s saying it…
This is why throwing the stooges to the wolves can, appropriately enough, come back to bite you in the ass. Kirk Fordham, the (be patient) former Chief of Staff for Rep. Foley, and more recently Chief of Staff for Rep. Reynolds of the RCCC, who has been “advising” Rep. Foley for about a week now, and who approached ABC last week to try to bribe them into suppressing the Foley IM story, was fired from his job as Reynolds CoS, and it looked like the GOP was going to try to pin as much of this as they would on him.
Well, does Fordham have the last laugh? That is, the last laugh as he’s biting them in the ass while being thrown to the wolves? (sorry) It turns out that he now says he had multiple conversations about Foley with “senior staff at the highest level of the House of Representatives” way back in 2004. But they did nothing.
72 Union Fireperson
I’m sure when you say “wait for the investigation” you mean like CREW waited for the FBI to investigate. Right?
on CNN TV they just had 2 more pages admitting they got IMs that were sexual in nature from Foley.
I think the “investigation” is what we’re seeing, UF. Like it?
Re: Kirk Fordham
Fordham also says he’ll disclose to the FBI and House ethics committee “any and all meetings and phone calls” regarding Foley’s behavior that he had with senior leadership staffers. In other words, this is just getting started.
74
That would be the National Republican Congressional Committee, or NRCC.
MaMa Hate,
Once again, you are jumping to conclusions. Let me try to spell this out at a 3rd Grade level….. The Media (Yes that includes CNN and FOX) are not a Grand Jury, a Judge or a Jury. So far, you are willing to convict on what the media reports. And god knows that the media has never been wrong. Tell you what, I will agree with you and even write a letter to call for the resignation of Speaker Hastert, if you agree that all of the following “Convicted” individuals should have to pay back any restitution and serve out their original sentences…
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=169169
http://www.sundayherald.com/40592
http://www.cbc.ca/news/backgro.....convicted/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M.....of_justice
All of these cases were reported in the Media as being guilty and guess what, Turns out they weren’t. Look, I’m not saying that this should become another OJ issue. And the evidence is stacking up. But even your misguided mind must realize that sometimes the media makes mistakes. In fact, just the other day there was a teenager on a very popular nation wide news program that claimed to be a person with intimate knowledge of a recent school shooting. Turns out, the kid was lying and trying to further his own personal career. Yes, for me it is as simple as waiting for all of the facts to come out. I’m not an irrational close minded Lib. Hell, I even defend President Clinton on a regular basis with all of my NeoCon friends. Long story short, you are angry and willing to lash out with all the facts. Sorry MaMa hate, that just isn’t me.