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  1. The answer to the problems in Iraq and Iran can be found in one of two ways: B-52 [BUFFs] Linebacker II strikes, or nuclear tipped sea/air/sub delivered high/low/medium “J” band self guidance correcting Tomahawk cruise missiles. These are the weapons Jesus would use as they have extremely cool names and work EVERY time they are tried.

  2. The answer to the problems of JCH’s psychotic babbling is inpatient treatment. Maybe his pal Karl Rove will drive him on over.

  3. Well, I see from the previous thread that “willy woger wabid wabbit” has left us already! That one didn’t last very long. I’ve noticed trolls with any spine are getting scarcer … the rightwing Bluff Machine is belching smoke, grinding gears, and popping valves! Somebody forgot to oil it.

  4. “Willy woger wabid wabbit” isn’t the first spineless gooper to discover HorsesAss isn’t exactly what he/she/it thought it was …

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  5. I don’t normally pay attention to anything JCH has to say, but does he always repeat his ranting material like this?

  6. Now that only the most inbred wacky fooling idiotic morons still defend the Pretender In Chief, you gotta wonder just how stupid can people really be? The fact that 3 in 10 Americans still support Monkey Face at all is surprising to me. Even the republican controlled media, like Faux News and the Moonie Washington Times are criticizing Baby Bush. I suppose our resident cowardly traitors and trolls here on HA still think Bush is doing the right thing. Shows how stupid some people can be. How’s it feel to be in the extreme minority you punks?

  7. Anyone else notice that Bush’s family friend Osama bin Laden is still running around on the lam? How hard can it be to find a seven foot tall towell head carrying a kidney machine? You have to guess Bush is giving his family friend a pass and of course the right stands silent while Bush lets the guy who actually had something to do with 9.11 get away with it.

    Think about it. No one. Not one person on the planet saw more benefit from 9.11 than Bush.

  8. 9/11 was a huge — HUGE — gift to the bush administration. Too large a gift to leave to chance.

  9. Remove all silly idealogical thoughts from your mind–make it simply about money, and the transfer of wealth from the public to the private sector. Think about it as a zero-sum game, where the resource being used up is “America,” and its citizens. What’s the easiest way to extract as much money as possible from the maximum number of people with no questions asked? Then look at what BushCo has accomplished. In many ways, it’s brilliant.

    The single most brilliant part is that they identified a demographic that is easy to manipulate and have rode it long and hard.

  10. Back on topic, it would be nice if King Gregoire would relinquish control. Thanks for pointing that out.

  12. Admit it ghostly zapporo. You chipped in your own money to pay Davis, Wright, Tremaine for that top notch bit of lawyering.

    We’re looking forward to seeing that “investment” pay off this November 2006 just as well as it did in November 2005. Oh Indeed we are.

    Thank you for reminding us of the wise strategeries devised by the “adults” running the WSGOP.

  13. All you rat fucker R Bircher windbags, just wit till THE Gregoire has a long session to get thing done….just wait…..going to be spectactular.

    Too DIZY to comtemplate. She has reinvened Onlympia in a model that had been abandoned.

    Solve the problems, get the players negotiating, tell you own hacks to shove it, and do the state’s business. She locked so called legislativ e leaders out of some meetings……reduced the bickering a lot.

    I think the old Olympia is gone forever. The results of the last session had benefits for all sectors. Hard core fighting sides topics under stree for 30 yers moved to resolution. Water issues, medical liability issues, gay rights, road rebuilding and bridges, and many more.

    Amazing last legislative session – just wait fot the next. Better Dem. margins, Gregoire in form, longer time line and more, much more moola as the economy improves.

    The one benefit of the sales tax tit is that it pays off at once. Next month, next week. As spending increases, our state has money to use.

    Go Christine, yes Mama, you will be QUEEN OF OLYMPIA . Love your solid mnd and hard core get to the problem and solve it approach.

    Trolls, move to Louisiana……..where prayer substitutes for policy and , truely only GOD knows were all the money goes.

  14. OUT OUT OUT — to the yard and something intresting – what a day.

    Renewal, rememer we had a winter.

  15. If there are 20 million illegal Mexicans in the US, shouldn’t we import 20 million African blacks, too? And since the Mexicans live in California, shouldn’t WASH state take all 20 million illegal black Africas [say, from the Sudan, or Zimbabwe]? And shouldn’t all 20 million get free health care, a nice place to live, welfare, food stamps, free legal services, lots of “guvment jobs” at great pay, free K12 and college education at UW or WSU? And taxes must go up a lot to pay, right? Anything less would be racist. hehe, JCH

  16. If there are 20 million illegal Mexicans in the US, shouldn’t we import 20 million African blacks, too? And since the Mexicans live in California, shouldn’t WASH state take all 20 million illegal black Africas [say, from the Sudan, or Zimbabwe]? And shouldn’t all 20 million get free health care, a nice place to live, welfare, food stamps, free legal services, lots of “guvment jobs” at great pay, free K12 and college education at UW or WSU? And taxes must go up a lot to pay, right? Anything less would be racist. hehe, JCH

  17. If there are 20 million illegal Mexicans in the US, shouldn’t we import 20 million African blacks, too? And since the Mexicans live in California, shouldn’t WASH state take all 20 million illegal black Africas [say, from the Sudan, or Zimbabwe]? And shouldn’t all 20 million get free health care, a nice place to live, welfare, food stamps, free legal services, lots of “guvment jobs” at great pay, free K12 and college education at UW or WSU? And taxes must go up a lot to pay, right? Anything less would be racist. hehe, JCH

  18. 15, 16, 17…….Roger Rabbit, You need 20 million new Democrat neighbors!!! Enjoy, JCH

  19. Green Thumb, If there are 20 million illegal Mexicans in the US, shouldn’t we import 20 million African blacks, too? And since the Mexicans live in California, shouldn’t WASH state take all 20 million illegal black Africas [say, from the Sudan, or Zimbabwe]? And shouldn’t all 20 million get free health care, a nice place to live, welfare, food stamps, free legal services, lots of “guvment jobs” at great pay, free K12 and college education at UW or WSU? And all 20 million will vote Democrat in this WASH Hillary Villiage!!! And taxes must go up a lot to pay, right? Anything less would be racist. hehe, JCH

  20. Herman, take your racist ramblings over to unsound politics, where they’re in favor. Do you even think? All you do is repeat the same shit over and over again.

  21. JCH does post over on SP, but for some reason, he doesn’t take his racist / anti-semitic / obsessive-compulsive mental circus over there. Such is the life of a barely-serious right wing troll.

  22. 20, 21………YOU are the racist because YOU refuse to import 20 million blacks from Africa to live in YOUR state and in YOUR neighborhoods. These people have needs, and you are greedy. Where is your compassion? Explain yourselves!!!!

  23. Anonymous and LiberalRedneck, I have referred your greedy and racist posts to the Most REV Jesse Jackson.He wants to know how many New Orleans blacks YOU took in and how much money YOU have to donate to “ATONE” for your lack of compassion to “black peoples”.

  24. It is time for you libs to “ATONE” for doing nothing while black Democrats in New Orleans were forced to loot BEST BUY for 42 inch Sony Plasma HDTVs!! !! Make checks to : “Atonement Fund For Stupid, Greedy, Liberal Democrats, ATTN: JCH, Hawaii

  25. John, the keyboard is sticky again. Didn’t I tell you to stay away from Horse’s Ass!

  27. 5

    “I don’t normally pay attention to anything JCH has to say, but does he always repeat his ranting material like this?” Commentby Nindid— 4/23/06@ 10:41 am

    Pretty much so.

  28. 10

    Straighten out your gender nouns, then we’ll talk. Oh, what the hell … let’s talk. Gregoire won, Rossi lost. If you don’t like it, you can suck my rabbit dick! Is that plain enough for ya?

  30. Normally it takes at least two or three generations to turn a human being into a Republican, although Ebola can do it in 10 minutes.

  31. Tasty treats for wingnuts in denial.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/section.....3415.shtml

    When no weapons of mass destruction surfaced in Iraq, President Bush insisted WMD claims were the result of faulty intelligence. A former top CIA official tells CBS the White House only used intelligence it liked, ignoring other information.

    Bon Appetit!

  32. The Unitary Executive: Is The Doctrine Behind the Bush Presidency Consistent with a Democratic State?

    When President Bush signed the new law, sponsored by Senator McCain, restricting the use of torture when interrogating detainees, he also issued a Presidential signing statement. That statement asserted that his power as Commander-in-Chief gives him the authority to bypass the very law he had just signed….

    The Divine Right of Kings is a European political and religious doctrine of political absolutism. Such doctrines are largely, though not exclusively, associated with the medieval and ancient régime eras. It states that a monarch owed his rule to the will of God, not to the will of his subjects, parliament, the aristocracy or any other competing authority. This doctrine continued with the claim that any attempt to depose a monarch or to restrict his powers ran contrary to the will of God.

    Court is adjourned.

  33. Right about now…

    jch has run out of drugs (no credit left with his dealer), the Jack’s all gone, and the Bud’s given way to Milwaukee’s Best.

    He’s sweatin’ buckets…hunched over the keyboard SCREAMING at the top of his lungs.

    Pure unadulterated apoplexy!

    Ohhhh the life of a wingnut troll. Makin’ the world better for ALL of us.

  36. Normally it takes at least two or three generations to turn a human being into a Republican, although Ebola can do it in 10 minutes.

    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 4/23/06@ 4:38 pm

    I wonder how much crack the DNC will be peddling to find their constituencies come 06.

  37. Whassamatta Roof-

    ‘Fraid the RNC blogger $$$$ gonna dry up?

    All your “handlers” are gonna be in prison, man. Heck…maybe you too!!!!

  40. Obviously JCH is nothing more than a David Duke racist. The Republican party is filled with people who are only “conservatives” because they are, in fact, hate-filled damaged people.

    People like David Duke, JCH, Dennis Falk, are whiners, first and foremost. They are insecure, overwhelmingly selfish people AND they do not even have curiousity about the truth. All they are looking for is people to blame, so long as those people are not people they identify with.

    They only blame people they already don’t like. This is absolute. NEVER, EVER, would JCH blame Republicans for importing cheap labor or sending jobs overseas. Never would he blame Republicans for raising deficits so radically, as they have.

    That’s now what politics are about for people like Duke, Falk, JCH. The world, for them, is a place where other people are to blame. All their problems, anything they don’t like, they project onto others – hence, of course, the obvious, latent homosexuality they exhibit. Their insane homophobia is clear evidence of that.

    Homosexuality only makes people agitated if they are unsure of their own sexuality, like JCH.

    The great thing about this time is it gives us an opportunity to watch conservatives in an atmosphere where all their heroes have proven to be cynical liars who stand for nothing. While Democrats are constantly debating with each other, Republicans just keep hammering away at the same nonsense with unquestioning unanimity.

  44. I LOVE Mary’s “producer” image of himself. It’s hysterical…if inaccurate. It may be the only way he can get an erection, though, so work it if you have to, partner.

  45. dlaw @ 40:
    In general I agree. What makes HA interesting, however, is that we don’t really know anything about the trolls. Are they loners in search of a connection, however perverse? Are they paid hacks whose marching orders have nothing to do with engaging substantive debate?

    My guesses: Janet S. is clearly a paid p.r. hack who has a foot in both the state and national scenes. If Richard Pope isn’t already a paid hack for the state Republicans, he is angling to become one. Mr. Cynical and JCH show familiarity with agitprop tactics, but sometimes will lapse into making an argument on an issue near and dear to them (e.g., Mr. Cynical has a particular fondness for land-use issues).

    I can’t tell whether Rufus, MTR and Klake are paid trolls; their arguments often seem too outlandish to be associated with any mainstream Republican or business organization. Are they loners or part of strategy to push the dialogue to the extreme right so that Bushism doesn’t sound so radical?

    The White House recently took away Karl Rove’s policy hat so that he could concentrate on the 2006 congressional elections. Word has it that the biggest fear of the Bushies is that the Democrats will gain the power to launch investigations by taking over the House. Opinion polls notwithstanding, it won’t be easy for the Democrats to pick off enough seats in swing and Republican-leaning districts. Rove has always had special fondness for the dirty trick, and so we can expect an unusual (and creative) assortment of them this time.

    I would expect this to increasingly show up in blogdom as the election approaches. One small manifestation: The trolls will show less and less willingness to critique Republican actions, no matter how corrupt or inept. In other words, their logic will become increasingly detached from reality. It will be fun to watch, but the danger is that the average voter may not be able to recognize the absurdity of their arguments without a bit of help.

  46. Mary The Redneck @ 43

    What a laughable fraud you are:

    Republicans have made a religion of freeloading. From Ayn Rand to your idiotic MAGICAL VERSION of the Laffer Curve (as taxes approach zero government revenues approach infinity, right?) all you want to prove is that the people who profit are somwhow actually the **victims** in society and that they shouldn’t pay anything.

    And the really funny part is that the vast majority of Republicans are just losers who as sticking up for the wealthy AT THEIR OWN EXPENSE purely our of emotional insecurity and the hideous, pathetic need to suck up to the powerful.

    What a complete lost fucking cause you are.

    Please, tell us again about the “Laffer” curve and all your degrees, you bozo.

    Funny stuff. Pathetic, but funny.

  47. Reagan, Christie Whitman, Orange County, CA, Bush Jr.

    ALL REPUBLICANS KNOW HOW TO DO IS BORROW AND BORROW AND BORROW AND BORROW because they are freeloaders who have made a religion of not paying bills.

    Please, please, please, explain the Laffer Curve to us, will you?

    Please?

    It’s so cute when Republi-trolls talk “economics”.

  48. Dlaw, Retake ECON 101, then read Dr. Milton Friedman’s “Capitalism and Freedom” and “Free To Choose”. Starteach book on page one. Do your homework. As for the Laffer curve, Dr. Laffer explans the relationship of TOTAL REVENUE with Marginal TAX RATES. My guess is this is way beyound your understanding. BTW, do you dream about me? You seem to include me in most of your posts. Many might find that a little sick. So do I. You need a life, and probably a sex partner of the OPPOSITE sex. No more “Tookie Williams” anal homo Democrat queer sex for you!!!

  49. Dlaw, Retake ECON 101, then read Dr. Milton Friedman’s “Capitalism and Freedom” and “Free To Choose”. Start each book on page one. Do your homework. As for the Laffer curve, Dr. Laffer explains the relationship of TOTAL REVENUE with Marginal TAX RATES. My guess is this is way beyond your understanding. BTW, Dlaw sicko, do you dream about me? You seem to include me in most of your posts, and I find that a little wacko. Some might find that a little sick. My guess is you need a life, and probably a sex partner of the OPPOSITE sex. No more “Tookie Williams” anal homo Democrat queer sex for you!!!

  50. Hmmm… looks like it’s time for another lesson in Moonbat Economics:

    Government exists to make private wealth possible.
    Commentby Belltowner— 3/12/06@ 4:15 pm

    I like Castro’s system better. He confiscates the employer’s property, shoots the employer, and the workers get quality health care for free. We need something like that in America.
    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 3/19/06@ 3:42 pm

    Don’t talk to me about “core beliefs…”
    Commentby headless lucy— 3/25/06@ 7:07 pm

    …the oil industry is a zero sum game ( like checkers )
    Commentby headless lucy— 4/9/06@ 2:56 pm

    “…higher PRODUCTIVITY means fewer jobs…”
    Commentby Donnageddon— 4/9/06@ 4:06 pm

    “Most wealthy people inherited their wealth and haven’t worked a day in their lives…”
    Commentby headless lucy— 4/13/06@ 5:14 pm

    ..Corporate profits are driven by the cheap labor binge. Corporate executives, board members and their lackeys have rewarded themselves hugely.
    Commentby For the Clueless— 4/15/06@ 12:12 pm

    America has been reduced to an oil for paper trade.
    Commentby For the Clueless— 4/15/06@ 1:05 pm

    …The only way to battle the oil-paper-land casino is to opt out of it through micro-capitalism, localized production and consumption…
    Commentby For the Clueless— 4/15/06@ 4:21 pm

    The rich people who get all these tax breaks lend us that money back in the form of government bonds that they buy and that we have to repay them at interest.
    This is not investing in the economy. It’s a double jeopardy rip-off!
    Commentby harry poon— 4/18/06@ 8:21 pm

    …I said the revenue was the result of deficit SPENDING DO YOU SEE THE WORD “SPENDING” SPENDING SPENDING SPENDING…
    Commentby dlaw— 4/18/06@ 10:17 pm

  51. Hmmm. Looks like it’s time to discuss MTR’s genocidal tendencies:

    “There are 6 billion people in the world. 2 billion of them are muslim. That means that all the rest of need to pair up and kill one of them. When we all do that, the problem will be solved. And it really is like a cancer… you hafta get every trace of it… every cell, or it will come out of remission with a vengeance. This also solves the global population problem you guys are so worried about, so we kill two birds with one stone.”

    Commentby Mark The Redneck— 12/17/05@ 8:51 pm

    The next time MTR arrogantly struts around his “advanced” economics knowledge, remember that his morals are no better than Hitler’s.

  52. MTR is a morally repugnant chilling nazi

    Commentby Mark The Redneck� 4/11/06@ 4:15 pm”

  53. Donnageddon: Is that all you can throw at MTR this evening? I guess dull knifedom is dulling your mind. Come on “Donna”, you can rise to the occasion!

    Okay, okay MTR did write something really stupid regarding killing off the muslims. But I do have a question for my librul Christian brothers. This leave you out donnageddon.

    Here it is: In the Koran (Qur’an) it says that Ismael was the chosen son of Abraham (Ibrahim) over Isaac. It says Abraham wanted to sacrifice Ismael. In the Koran it says Jesus is NOT the Son of God. So with just those two differences (read the Koran libruls), how can we say we are in agreement with our muslim “friends” if their book in interesting places contradicts our Christian beliefs in the Bible? Either Jesus is the Son of God or He isn’t. I choose to be like Joshua in Joshua 24:16 – “As for me and my house we will serve the Lord”. Jesus is the Son of God.

    What say you librul Christians? Do you agree with my premise or do you disagree with my premise?

  55. For those who love Latin from Calvin:

    Joshua 24:15 – “Quod si molestum est1vobis servire Jehovae, eligite vobis hodie quos colatis: sive deos, quibus servierunt patres vestri, qui fuerunt trans flumen, sive deos Aemorrhaei, in quorum habitatis terra: ego vero, et domus mea colemus Jehovam.”

  56. Green @ 46

    Listen the Republican message machine is second to none, but NOT because it is planned from above. That is actually a dangerous myth. These idiots don’t know from “agit-prop” all you have to do is read “www.townhall.com” and you can read the current state of the Republican message and see how it is developed.

    The message is developed by a LARGE network of talented columnists, radio hosts, Think Tank Reps, Televangelists and their staffs. They make their living selling their message to pathetic losers like the Republi-trolls here. But what they do differently is they pay careful attention to what messages are working and what messages aren’t IN THE PUBLIC by paying attention to the response rates on radio and TV, letters to the editor and, most importantly, by how many of the other professional Republitalkers take up a message – the echo-box.

    What’s really important is that they market-test this message, whereas Democratic talkers mainly “test” their message internally. We really do talk to each other. And, we are much, much less willing to take new lines. Republitalkers switch positions at will.

    Thus Bush Jr. is a great fiscal conservative AND terribly smart for borrowing and spending away the recession. He’s a great “patriot” for “defending” us from Al Qaeda by destroying Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction that didn’t exist and giving Al Qaeda a new home in Iraq after the Afghans threw them out and we didn’t catch them.

    Yeah, of course it’s a pure absurdity, but political messaging is not about consistency, it’s about a story, first and foremost. Make the story fit into a larger arc of stories and it will sound persuasive, even if it is totally contradictory with what you said a few days before. You just need a lot of talented message-creators and ways to run that message against multiple audiences in a competitive space.

    The problem the Republicans have now is that they have lied so much for so long that the baseline “truths” they have depended on are falling apart.

    For example, one “truth” is that liberals always support the outsiders in a conflict and are therefore “unpatriotic”. But of course it was Republicans, not liberals, who supported Muslim fundamentalism to use it against the Soviets.

    This then goes to the “argument” about how liberals always support foreigners here at home. Well, obviously the businesses that use illegal labor and benefit from it are vastly Republican and of course Republicans have stymied every single piece of legislation that ever threatened the use of cheap, illegal labor. But you don’t expect Republicans to alienate fruit growers, contractors, restaurant owners, and the meat packing industry, do you? No, it’s far, far simpler just to try and get everybody to hate Mexicans.

    And the great thing is that Bush, because HE really believed the hype and didn’t know that it was all crap, has completely fucked up their little dreams. His administration is so bad that they have fundamentally crippled that carefully crafted propoganda structure – not the structure that produces the propoganda, but the structure of the message itself.

  57. Mary the Redneck is a fraud who CAN’T explain how the Laffer Curve works because HE DOESN’T UNDERSTAND IT!

    What a joke!

    What an idiot!

    How embarrassing it mus tbe for Republicans to have morons like Mary the Redneck and vicious, self-hating gay BIGOTS like JCH running around!

    Talk, guys! Talk! Volunteer! You ARE the message and THE MESSAGE SUCKS.

    God, it just makes me so happy to mock complete worthless idiots like you.

  58. DLaw in Post #57 puts forth the donko talking points.

    First DLaw lets discuss the Joe Wilson and Niger. Here is the Italian newspaper from Milan. http://www.ilfoglio.it/uploads.....rgate.html
    Scoop del Sunday Times affossa il Nigergate di Rep: l’Iraq cercò l’uranio in Africa
    IL FOGLIO, 20 aprile 2006

    IL FOGLIO — 20/04/2006

    The Time’s scoop buries La Repubblica’s Nigergate: Iraq sought uranium in Africa

    Nato sources reveal that the French gave the British (and the British Bush) a letter that proved Saddam’s attempts at procurement.

    Milan. What little remained of the Nigergate so dear to La Repubblica has sunk under the force of the clamorous revelations of the Sunday Times of London and Slate, the online review of the Washington Post group. Now the names, and motives, of those who fabricated the dossier containing a false supply contract in Saddam Hussein’s name for Nigerien uranium are known. Now there is also the certainty that the ex policeman, Rocco Martino, was in the service of the French and not the Italians. It can also be seen that around the case, which dates back to 2000, that is long before the war in Iraq and September 11, a well organised disinformation campaign was implemented even though, as we now know, the information was true, that it had been verified and that to date is still confirmed by the French and British Intelligence Services.

    The truth is he following: Saddam tried to buy uranium from Niger, sending, to this end, Wissam al-Zahawie, Saddam’s ex representative to the Atomic Agency of the United Nations and to the Conference on Non Proliferation of the United Nations, to the central African nation. The contract was never formalised but the attempt was carried out and the proof of this exists. The ex ambassador, and decisively anti-Bush, Joe Wilson, at the centre of the Ciagate scandal that has rocked Washington, was sent to Niger by the Cia and his wife Valeria Plame in order to investigate the attempts at procurement didn’t uncover them and is now obliged to give evasive replies on American talk shows.

    The Sunday Times, citing Nato sources close to the official Nigergate investigation, has for the first time revealed the existence of a letter dating back to the year 2000, obtained by the French in 2002 but not from Rocco Martino or the authors of the false dossier, which explicitly details the visit to Niger of Saddam’s envoy charged precisely with the scope of obtaining uranium. This letter – and only this letter, not the false dossier so dear to La Repubblica – is at the origin of the famous 16 words pronounced by George W. Bush in his January 2003 State of the Union address. On the occasion Bush said that the British government had information regarding Saddam’s attempts at procuring uranium in Africa. The interpretation given by the ex-ambassador Wilson, La Repubblica and a couple of radical journalists hired by CBS, the authors of the false anti-Bush scoop, is that the American president made his statement on the basis of false documents ‘cooked’ in Rome and disseminated with the complicity of Sismi in order to do a favour to Neocon friends in Washington. Il Foglio has on more than one occasion demonstrated, graphically and logically, how the reconstruction of La Repubblica didn’t stand-up (demonstrations agreed upon and shared by the Ds, Margherita and Rifondazione Comunista who, through the Trotskyist Senator Luigi Malabarba, went as far as to define the Repubblica’s articles as ‘fantasies’).

    A letter from 2000

    Up to this point the numerous contradictory versions offered by Wilson, the bipartisan American inquiries, and all of the possible imaginable denials have not been sufficient to halt the flow of speculation. Not even the conclusions of the British Butler Commission’s report, which clearly explained how Bush’s words referred to indications supplied by the British that were not based on the false ‘Italian’ documents but on ‘well founded’ evidence in possession of the British Government, have been enough. Up to here there was always a slight doubt: exactly what was the ‘well founded’ evidence in possession of the British. The Sunday Times has finally revealed the answer: the letter from the year 2000 detailing the visit to Niger by Wissam al-Zahawie. Proof that does not originate in Rome or in Washington, quite the contrary, evidence that comes from the French Intelligence services and thus from the Intelligence services of a country which opposed the Iraq war. Proof which the French still continue to consider well founded and based on facts. In 2002 the Dgse in Paris passed the documents that were the evidence of Saddam’s interest in procuring uranium to MI6 in London with the caveat that they could not be shown to any other Intelligence service (a procedure quite common amongst Intelligence services) because they would have put the source’s life at risk. In addition to the British the inspectors of the Iaea saw the letter, albeit through a French official and hidden from the attention of the Parisian delegation, and judged it, on the contrary of the dossier ‘cooked’ in Italy, true. The British limited themselves to transmitting an overview of the contents of the letter to the Cia and from there the information ended up in the President’s State of the Union Address. Thus in synthesis: Bush did not lie and the evidence that Saddam sought uranium in Niger was supplied by the French and confirmed by the United Nation’s nuclear agency.

    The scoop in the Sunday Times is by Michael Smith, a ferociously anti-Bush English journalist. This fact rules out any accusations of his being ‘in the service’ of the White House. Smith revealed the names of the two officials from the Niger embassy in Rome who prepared the false documents, one is an Italian and the other is a Nigerien Diplomat. The Italian, assistant to the Nigerien ambassador until now know as ‘la Signora’ (The Lady), is called Laura Montini. The other is the consul Adam Maiga Zakariaou.

    This is how things really went. A Sismi agent, Antonio Nucera, was transferred to another division and in February 2000 put his ex source, Laura Montini, in contact with the ex-agent Rocco Martino. Nucera did this as a favour to his ex-source, in his new role he no longer required ‘La signora’ and in order to help her economically he created the link to Rocco Martino. Since 1996, according to the Sunday Times, Martino had been a French spy under the control of the chief of the Dgse station in Bruxelles who paid him 2.000 euro a month. Montini became a sub-agent to Martino, a role for which Martino paid her 500 Euro every month. The French were seeking information relative to the movements of uranium in Niger, Martino and Montini supplied them with documents, including one regarding the visit to Niger by al-Zahawie (not however the most consistent one which was transmitted to the British by the French). The Intelligence services in Paris asked Martino for additional information and promised conspicuous sums of money should he be able to procure a copy of the sales contract between Sadam and Niger. Attracted by the money, and in agreement with the consul, Montini put together the false contract, something that she kept Martino in the dark about. Martino then passed the false contract to his French bosses. According to the Sunday Times the French told Martino that the documents were false almost immediately however intelligence sources have told Il Foglio that from various inquiries it has emerged that Martino was only informed at the beginning of 2003, that is months after he had attempted to sell them to a journalist from Panorama and in the new context of the ‘war on terrorism’.

    This is the interpretation of Christopher Hitchens of Slate. In 2000 the French came into possession of both the real documents and false documents regarding the attempts by the Iraqis to procure uranium in Niger. After September 11, and in the months proceeding the invasion of Iraq, the French passed the real document to the British but allowed one of their agents, Rocco Martino, to disseminate an obviously false dossier which, if discovered, would have raised doubts in regards to Iraq’s real attempts to procure uranium, this operation would, in addition, carry Italian ‘fingerprints’ and not French ones. Panorama didn’t fall for it but other media organisations did.

    — Christian Rocca

    So DLaw those 16 words were truthful! Again you donks like to jump the gun!

  61. DLaw: The captured Iraqi documentation it their translations are forthcoming. You donks can ignore it all you want but as I wrote many months before that there is a big surprise coming, it’s building and when the American people get wind of these documents and their translation, you all will be EATING CROW!

    Here is the Iraqi document discussing the briefcase bombs:

    Beginning of the translation of page 2 of document CMPC-2003-005935 http://70.169.163.24/released/.....005935.pdf

    In the Name of God the Most Merciful the Most Compassionate

    The Presidency of the Republic

    The Intelligence Apparatus

    Mr: The Respected Director

    Subject: Projects of a Plan

    Below are projects of the plan for the year 2000 and according to the budget suggested for it in the spending budget of the year 2000 and as follow:

    1. Prepare an armored brief case to protect the VIPs 180 days.

    2. Study on the Epoxy used currently in preparing the IEDs and the possibility of finding another type that will not affect the explosive.

    3. Studies and researches of the materials that increase the intensity of the explosive.

    4. Prepare theoretical and applied lessons on the popular explosives 120 days.

    5. Training of the Arab Feedayeens- within the plan of the year 2000.

    Establish tournaments specialized in the explosives 30 days

    Please review and your command with regards

    Signature…

    Khaled Ibrahim Ismail

    Senior Chemist

    22/11/99

  62. DLaw How about this one which is the follow on to the one from November 1999 for Iraqi 2000 budget year: http://fmso.leavenworth.army.m.....028868.pdf

    Beginning of the translations of pages 20, 21, and 22 of the pdf document ISGP-2003-00028868

    Translation of Page 20 in the pdf document:

    In the Name of God the most Merciful and the most Compassionate

    Top Secret

    Recommendation on how to use the Arab Feedaeyeens (Suicide Martyrs)
    1. Supervision for training and usage

    Formation of a devoted commission headed by Lieutenant General Hamza Alwan Zaher from the Directory of Military Engineering and the membership of Staff General Azawi Saleh Hassan from the Directory of Planning and the and Colonel Dr. Abdel Rahim Abdel Saheb Ali from the Directory of Political Orientation and that the commission will be related to Mr. assistant of Chairman of Army Training Staff.

    2. The Training Course

    The commission will prepare a very intensive training course for a period of week where it will be focused to raise the physical fitness and train on how use the automatic rifle Kalashnikoff and hand grenades and the largest section of the course will be specialized to focus of using the explosive material in the body, in motorcycle, in cars, and in camels.

    3. Instructors

    They must be dedicated from the Special Forces Command, from the Directory of Military Engineering and from the First Military School those that appear in them competence and capability.

    (1-3) Top Secret

    Translation of page 21 in the pdf document:

    Top Secret

    4. Requirement of duty

    A. The Explosives

    All the explosives and its attachments will be provided by the Directory of Military Engineering.

    B . The Cars

    All the cars and motorcycles that will be used in fulfilling the duties will be provided by the Department of Armament and Equipping.

    C. The Camels

    Will be provided by the Directory of General Military Intelligence.

    D. Light Weapons

    The Kalashnikoff rifles and the hand grenades will be provided by the Department of Armament and Equipping.

    5. Usage

    The Directory of General Military Intelligence will take the responsibility to provide the dictations and supervise the execution of duties and that this will occur after that the end of extensive training period.

    (2-3) Top Secret

    Translation of page 22 in the pdf document.

    Top secret

    6. General issues

    A. The representative of the Directory of Political Orientation and the Religious Scholars from among the volunteers to give religious sermons that emphasis on Jihad for the Arab volunteers outside the hours dedicated for training.

    B. Provide the Badwen clothing and other equipments (Travel homes,…) by the directory of general military intelligence.

    Signature….. 28/2

    (3-3) Top secret.

  63. DLaw: There are many more documents being translated as I write. It is coming and the librul MSM filters are becoming sieves!!!

  65. re 64: These 50,000 pages of documents are being sifted through not with the determination to arrive at the truth of things, but rather , to justify neo-con actions that are unjustifiable. Their attitude is : “If one lie doesn’t work, try another.”

    It is similar to the way American Fundamentalist Clerics read the Bible: They search the 30,000+ passages until they find one that supports, or can be twisted in meaning to support, their pre-conceived notions. And then , voila! They were right all along. God says so!

  66. ‘McKinney Orders Reporter Not to Air Public Comments’

    I just saw on UPN’s ”The Daily Buzz,” McKinney flash her bug eyes and shark teeth at the reporter for asking ”simple” questions about her Capitol Police ”strike-fist.” And,when she walked out with her mike on and got caught bad-mouthing the reporter, mcKinney came back to make an understood ”threat” as to what SHE would allow the press to report. It was a hoot that ALL this was caught on tape.

  67. “Anything that is captured by your audio, that is captured while I’m not seated in this chair, is off the record and is not permissible to be used. Is that understood?” McKinney said.”

    Apparently not, pigface. I’ll give the station credit for reporting it. She sounds like Hillary! in blackface.

  68. Jeez, JCH. This obsession of yours is getting so overwhelming, and is bouncing around so much in your head – you can’t even explain a short video segment so people can understand what yer talkin’ about.

  69. -You donks can ignore it all you want but as I wrote many months before that there is a big surprise coming, it’s building and when the American people get wind of these documents and their translation, you all will be EATING CROW!-

    Speaking of barely sane right wing trolls, how funny is it that Puddy is STILL promising WMD and an “imminent” threat posed by Saddam….THREE YEARS LATER!

    It’s almost as if clowns like JCH/Puddy are trying to embarrass themselves on purpose. There really can’t be another explanation for it. They MUST be liberals in disguise – or just plain old anarchist trolls.

  70. Just another example of how leftists are not progressive, but actually extremely reactionary.

    The leftist politicos think themselves as members of the peerage – little lords and ladies who are better than the hoi-palloi. They believe they have a right of lordship, where the commoners must obey them, and that they can treat the peasants any way they choose.

    That is why the left seems so infatuated with dictators and ‘rock star’ politicians – they want to be ordered around, they need someone else to take care of them. They are mentally challenged in that they believe all lefty dictators are somehow, despite mass graves to the contrary, given to noblesse oblige.

    So Duchess McKinney feels right to strike the peasant constable who dared to question, nay, had the gall to talk to her and touch her. Laws are for commoners, not the lords, donchaknow. And of course, the Duchess can order around the press.

    I’m tired of it. And of Democrats.

  71. -Either Jesus is the Son of God or He isn’t. I choose to be like Joshua in Joshua 24:16 – “As for me and my house we will serve the Lord”. Jesus is the Son of God.-

    It absolutely blows my mind that vicious, disgusting, hateful, racist, anti-semites like Puddy, MTR and JCH actually consider themselves to be Christian, and pretend they are driven by moral values. If these barely-human repugnant right wingers are the face of good American values, this country is in trouble, folks.

    Basically, our HA trolls are just exact replicas of jihadist Muslims – on the other side of the spectrum.

    Culturally, the GOP Talibangelist crowd has a lot more in common with the average Wahabbist than he does with mainstream American values.

  72. -The leftist politicos think themselves as members of the peerage – little lords and ladies who are better than the hoi-palloi.-

    Is JCH drunk? Is that what makes him ramble using incoherent sentences?

    What you are REALLY tired of is yourrself, JCH. That’s the product of being an angry, frustrated, over the hill crank.

  73. LibrulRedNeck: You must not be Christian because you didn’t answer my question. Why not just shut up and let someone with a working brain tackle it.

  74. Somebody with a working brain, or somebody who adheres to your particular vicious political/religious cult?

    I would imagine the latter.

  75. [JCH] listens only to American Fundamentalist clerics — who are pretty much the same as Muslim jihaddists. [hehehe]

  77. LibrulRedNeckASS: For the last time I am not an anti-semite. I am neo-con per donnagedumb, horseless looselips, tree farming frogs, etc. Neo-cons love Israel. We support Israel. Donk support Palestinians. Donk support Hamas. How can I be anti-semite? You are spewing daily curse talking points!

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