This just in…
Ms. Hague,
I am writing to you to inform you that I have been given the full authority of the Bellevue Firefighters IAFF Local #1604 to advise you that they have pulled the endorsement that they have given you for your re-election campaign. At this point the Bellevue Firefighters IAFF Local #1604 will not be endorsing for this race. Item next, I will be pulling my personal endorsement as a Bothell City Council member for your re-election campaign. I, as well, will not be endorsing in this race. At this point you are to discontinue using our endorsements, and to have all references of them removed from all campaign material as well as Voter guides. Failure to do so will result in our issuing a press release stating our actions.
Respectfully,
Del Spivey
Bellevue Firefighters
IAFF Local # 1604Bothell City Council
Member
There are a ton of Hague yard signs all over the district proudly sporting the “Firefighter Endorsed” placard. Looks like Hague’s army of enthusiastic supporters will be awfully busy yanking yard signs. (Or maybe, they could just ply Hague with wine, put her behind the wheel, and have her knock over the signs herself?)
No need for Hague’s volunteers to inconvenience themselves. In return for an appropriate donation to the Help Roger Rabbit Live Like A Republican Fund, I’ll send 50,000 rabbits to dig holes under the signs to make them fall over.
Oooooooo. Goldy that was cruuuuuel.
Oh and WELCOME BACK ROGER RABBIT!!!
NOW WE CAN REALLY KICK SOME WINGNUT ASS AROUND HERE!
Nice to see you back, Roger.
@2 NOW WE CAN REALLY KICK SOME WINGNUT ASS AROUND HERE!
Starting with the wingnut hypocrites who think it’s “treason” to criticize Gen. Petraeus (back in 1917 they said the same thing about anyone who criticized Marshal Foch) but the Swift Liars’ lies and smears about John Kerry were perfectly okay.
Sooooo … maybe one of you unpatriotic fascist troll liars can EXPLAIN to me why it’s okay to call a presidential candidate a “traitor” but it’s not okay to suggest a general is betraying the soldiers he commands by subordinating military efficacy to political bootlicking.
@3 I’ve been very busy touring the agricultural areas of our state, Richard! This is harvest season, and it’s important that I personally sample our state’s produce to make sure it’s fit for rabbit consumption. Especially the carrots. YUMMY!!! I LOOOOVE CARROTS!!!!!!
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Another bunch of rightwingers who thought it was “treason” to criticize their warmongering also comes to mind. http://tinyurl.com/pn49h
Welcome back, Roger.
There’s an abuser of bagpipes (a loathsome device some idiots believe is a musical instrument) that we want you to meet. You’ll recognize him by the length and vacuity of his ramblings.
I wonder why the firefighters are pulling their endorsement. Oh, that’s right. It is the firefighters (like me) that have to pull the bloody bodies out of the cars the drunk drivers smash with their SUV’s.
Makes sense……
Bush is cutting funds to the FBI so that more of his buddies won’t get busted:
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/.....fbi28.html
umm, if Goldy got this, how is this different than a press release? I see no distinction, certainly low-brow politics from Del.
I didn’t want to risk off topic deletion in the “Jena” thread (and out of respect for Lee’s request to keep it rational) but I couldn’t help but notice the absolute silence from Uncle Tom Puddy, champion of African-Americans everywhere.
Snort.
Jacob @11,
Yeah, Hague drives drunk, curses the police officers, lies about her resume, fucks up her campaign finance and disclosure, and refuses to take responsibility. But Del is the bad guy here.
Del didn’t send me the email, Richard did.
POPE! POPE! POPE! POPE! POPE! POPE! POPE! POPE! POPE! POPE! POPE! POPE! POPE! POPE! POPE! POPE!
And yet ..
Richard is getting no coverage and is raising no money.
Was going to raise the same comment as @11. It looks like it has become a press release.
Goldy @13, it was given to you by Richard Pope, the opposing candidate? Clearly not a press release from Del Spivey. Is this stuff all public record?
Goldy @13
I am not saying Del is the bad guy…from the looks of it (until you clarified Pope sent it to you), it looked like a pretty shitty move from someone who said if you don’t do X, I am going to do Y. Yet, he did Y before she had the chance to do X.
As a follower of City of Bothell politics, Del is a good guy.
But his letter doesn’t make Richard Pope a good guy.
I’m still waiting for all you left of the tote board odds makers to cover the spread of Pope’s defeat. What will it be? 10, 15, 20, 25 points?
How many out there are willing to bet the farm and your kid’s college fund that he’ll win?
Didn’t think so…
The Piper
@8…Chadt…
Your qualifications to be a musical critic are…?
The Piper
Why won’t Richard talk about his time in Texas? He seems really nervous when it comes to questions about his personal history. Maybe he can shed some light on this for the thread…or perhaps the voters will decide for themselves.
@8 Another newby? Or one of the old retreads?
@14 I can’t, for the life of me, understand how Democratic Party leaders can be so blinded by their control fetish to overlook the nearly limitless potential benefits to the party of Richard’s conversion to Democrathood.
@18 We don’t expect wingnuts like you to love him. Rejection hurts! How’s it feel to be jilted, asshole? And by Richard Pope, no less! Here’s a salt shaker, rub some into your wounds.
@20 “Why won’t Richard talk about his time in Texas? He seems really nervous when it comes to questions about his personal history.”
If I’d been a Republican in Texas with Shrub, I wouldn’t want to talk about it either.
@23…RR…
Good riddance to bad…
But you failed to put your money where your mouth is: Pope’s margin of defeat…what’s your bet on how large it will be?
Or would you like to wager on his victory…Want odds? 20, 30, 40, or 50 to one?
I’m sure there are some among you who would call that a sucker bet, but all who seem willing to die on the hill of Richard Pope should be willing to call it an act of faith.
Which is it?
The Piper
So Jane Hague is a lying Republican drunk who violates the law then blames others for it (doesn’t that just mean she is a Republican? I mean, except that she should also be gay).
And Richard Pope (no offense bro) is an underachieving perennial also-ran who lucked into a scandal.
Given the choice, Richard is my guy. But the choice isn’t a real impressive one.
Is Del Spivey in any way related to Joe Spivey? If the Piper will stretch his musical memory, he may recall that Allan Sherman went hiking with Joe Spivey, “… who developed poison Ivy.”
The head coach at the camp was apparently quite literate, as he spent many a lively evening reading James Joyce’s ‘Ulysses’ to the lads in an effort to squelch any sissyish impulses.
“Die on the hill of Richard Pope?”
Is that how Republicans characterize not wanting a lying drunk who ducks responsibility to represent us?
@26…DL…
Where is it written that you’re required to make a choice? Aren’t there times, if you conscience is so strong, that it’s simply best to sit one out? Or write in another name?
Why hang your hat on a peg that’s an absolute loser from the get go?
Given his track record in elections, Richard Pope couldn’t come in third in a two-candidate race! King County Democrats did the smart and principled thing and tossed him overboard, yet so many seem willing to jump overboard with him only to end up getting yourselves politically drowned.
Or would you care to make book on his chances? In the words of Rod Tidwell…”Show me the money!”
The Piper
@25
I’ll bet 10 bucks on Pope’s victory at 50 to 1 against if you’re offering those odds.
@27…SC…
Hello Muddah…Hello Fadda…Here I am at…Camp Grenada!
Yes…I’m of that vintage.
Del Spivey is a firefighter who also is in his first term on the Bothell City Council. While I’m not a Bothell resident, I follow Bothell politics, and by all accounts, he’s a good egg.
The Piper
Interesting how all of you consistenly cite the problems of the incumbent, yet when it comes to Richard’s personal issues (of which there are a ton!) you seem to have selective criteria. If you are partisans, and simply love supporting the D in the race- that’s one thing. But to say that personal issues matter in this race and clearly support Dickie P shows what fools you are. There is well documented evidence of violence towards women (TRO in fact), temper issues (cited in depositions), indecisiveness (can’t pick a party to stick with), and the list goes on and on. Add all that to the fact that this guy is a consistent loser who is bat-shit crazy and Jane is the easy choice.
@31
Pope’s a winner and Hague is a loser. I can feel it.
Still waiting to hear Richard tell us about Texas…his silence is defeaning. Oh well, we’ll hear soon enough.
GEE WONDER HOW THAT LAW SUIT IS WORKING OUT FOR CONGRESSMAN MERTHA (D).JUST ASKIN.
PIPER
RICHARD POPE COULD NOT MAKE OUT IN A WOMANS PRISON WITH A HAND FULL OF PARDONS
@30…Luigi…
I don’t want you to blow your entire allowance, so I’m giving you one last chance to reconsider…
And @33…
Is that what you feel? Or is it the green chili burrito you had for lunch? Don’t confuse acid reflex disease with political insight.
The Piper
#37 — reflux, not reflex
I’m surprised at some of your careless errors. Have you been out wine-tasting with Jane Hague?
I can’t vote for someone so stupid and out of control that they yell at a cop who has busted them for drunk driving.
Even Mike?!?! McGavick had more sense than that.
Vote for Richard Pope. If for no other reason than he doesn’t call himself ‘Dick”.
@38…SC…
Hey! Pound for pound, my keyboarding skills beat SJ’s six ways to Sunday!
I will attribute the error to dizziness caused by the raw fish I had for lunch today at the Ballard Sushi and Bait Emporium.
The Piper
Piper,
I will take your bet, but being the friendly guy I am, I am willing to accept odds of just 5 to 1 on a $20 bet.
I will take Pope and 9 point win. If he wins by less, I pay. If he wins by 9 or more points, you pay.
If you wish to increase the bet amount, I am open to discussion. I don’t mind taking your money, but I don’t want you so broke your kids won’t eat.
Deal?
MLF
@39…SC…
Then either don’t vote in the race or write in someone’s name! No law says you’re stuck with just the names on the ballot!
The Piper
@42…MLF…
You do know that by now the Washington State Gaming Commission considers HA to be an unlawful wagering den of iniquity?
You’re really willing to wager that Pope has a chance of winning???
What happens when he loses?
Let’s see…counting noses…aside from the maybe two or three dozen regular posters on HA who’ve publicly announced for Pope, his other core base of support is…NOBODY!
Not to say that the incumbent isn’t without serious baggage…But the most astute comment to date was one in The Times from an Eastside former office holder who simply said, “Her margin of victory won’t be as large.”
Don’t you worry about my kids and eating…In fact, my oldest, the staff sergeant who’s home for a week, fed me today. Italian omelette at The Brown Bag in Kirkland…
The Piper
Pooper Scooter @19
One certainly need not be a music critic to laugh at bagpipes; a rudimentary sense of decency is all that’s required. But, I was a music major, so accusing me of ignorance won’t wash.
Actually, the issue is less the bagpipes than the bag of air operating the device.
P scooter:
The lessons learned here by betting with welshing wingers will prevent most people on this board from trusting their money with the likes of you and MTR.
Chadt@11: Unlike you I don’t live here. I have a family to support which means I have to work for a living, unlike you who clings to mommy’s stockings. I haven’t visited the Jena thread yet.
Batting .99427 in stupidity. Keep it up and you can hit five sigmas soon! Wait… there’s hope 34 more entries to read.
Go home and suck your 8 oz bottle now!
@42
5 to 1 against is still a good value bet.
@37
I don’t want to reconsider. I can feel it.
@37
Did I read somewhere that you’re a Canuck?
@50…LG…
Reading restroom walls again?
Born in Pocatello, ID.
@49…
Lie down until the feeling goes away. If you still have it in the morning, call someone – anyone – who’s been around electoral politics for more than five minutes.
Prediction: Even with the incumbent’s admitted baggage and the negative publicity – not all of it undeserved, I might add – Richard Pope won’t crack 40%.
Here’s a clue: The more negative publicity the incumbent receives, the more attention is drawn to the…uhm…”record” of Richard Pope, and the less likely it is that now informed voters will check off his name on their ballot.
The Piper
Piper Scott,
You’ll have a hard time finding bet takers here. The last wingnut who made a very public bet with Goldy—it was Mark the Redneck, who bet that I-912 would win by 10 points–lost the bet. In fact, I-912 lost, as well. But, Mark the Redneck refused to pay up.
He admitted they had a bet and that he lost, but still wouldn’t. Wingnuts have very little credibility ’round here.
I AGREE WITH YOU PIPER!!! THESE OUT-OF-THE-MAINSTREAM, LIBERALS HERE ARE SO MEAN TO JANE HAGUE. SO MEAN!! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH… ITS SO AWFUL THE THINGS THEY’RE SAYING ABOUT HER. YOU KNOW, ABOUT DRUNK DRIVING ON THE 520 BRIDGE AND ALL AND CURSING AT POLICE OFFICERS. GEE IF YOU’RE DRUNK ON A ROAD LIKE THAT YOU CAN REALLY KILL SOME PEOPLE. IT’S SO AWFUL TO CONTEMPLATE! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!
HOW CAN THESE LIBERALS SAY SUCH MEAN THINGS!?!?! WHEN I HEAR STUFF LIKE THAT, I PUT MY HANDS OVER MY EARS!!! I WANT TO BLOCK IT OUT!! I DON’T WANT TO HEAR IT!! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!
STOP ATTACKING JANE HAGUE YOU MEAN LIBERALS!!! WAAAAAAAAAH!!! STOP! STOP! SHE’S A NICE REPUBLICAN LADY STANDING FOR TRADITIONAL AMERICAN VALUES!! THAT MEAN RICHARD POPE IS DIGGING UP SO MUCH DIRT ABOUT HER DIPLOMAS AND HER CAMPAIGN FINANCES!! HE’S SO MEAN!!! STOP! STOP!
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
AND PIPER!!! TAKE MY ADVICE!! DON’T BET WITH THESE MEAN LIBERALS!!
LOOK HOW MEAN THEY WERE TO MARK THE REDNECK!!! WAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!! THEY CALL HIM A BET WELSHER!!!
THAT’S NOT TRUE!!! HE DIDN’T WELSH ON A BET HE CHALLENGED GOLDY TO – HE JUST DIDN’T PAY!!! THERE’S A DIFFERENCE!! I’M SURE OF IT!!!
HE’LL EXPLAIN IT!!! ONE DAY.. UNTIL THAT DAY COMES, THESE LIBERALS ARE SO MEAN TO HIM!!! THEY WON’T GIVE HIM THE CHI SQUARED ANALYSIS ON AVERAGE TEMPERATURE OVER TIME TO PROVE GLOBAL WARMING!!!
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!
Where is the Piper? He challenged everyone. Two of us accepted his challenges. Where is he? My original proposal stands. Piper mentioned the possibility of 50 to 1 against in his original proposal. I accept.
@26 Luck has nothing to do with it. Richard’s m.o. is to ferret out officeholders with serious liabilities, then run against them — such as the judge who faced re-election while under suspension …. It doesn’t take a genius to figure out that if you have no party organization behind you and no money, you’d better start out with a weak opponent.
However, this strategy hasn’t worked for Richard Pope, and it didn’t work for Low-Tax Looper, either. Looper, you may recall, figured the best opponent to run against is a dead one, so he murdered his opponent, figuring that would make him a shoo-in on a ballot with only his name on it. Unfortunately, Looper failed to foresee the possibility of a write-in candidacy. The write-in candidate got 96% of the vote, to Looper’s 4%.
Richard Pope, who is smarter than Looper, has hit on a more rational (not to mention more ethical) strategy: Change parties. Or, at least, change what he calls himself. Low-Tax Looper called himself a Democrat and lost, so Looper switched to calling himself a Republican, and ended up in Brushy Mountain Penitentiary. Pope called himself a Republican and lost; so he switched to calling himself a Democrat, and (let us hope) may end up on the county council.
That, in my opinion, is a good place for him. Richard seems like a decent enough guy, and has a disabled child dependent on him for support, so he could use a paying job. And the council is a safe job to elect him to; the council is a committee, where no single individual, no matter how crazy, can do much damage by himself or herself. And who knows, Richard might even turn out to be a credible office holder, and perhaps even advance to something bigger, such as parking ticket magistrate. In any case, it is harder for me to see how anyone can make a case for re-electing Hague.
@29 “Given his track record in elections, Richard Pope couldn’t come in third in a two-candidate race!”
Really? He has scored over 40% against big-league pols. It’s true Richard has never won, but he has gotten numbers that make some of the GOP’s anointed candidates look like gadflies (Roadkill McGavick and Motherbeater Irons come to mind). Which makes you wonder about what the GOP’s leadership and voters are thinking when they nominate these people. It’s ironic how they are trashing Richard, who happened to be one of their better vote-getters.
@25 Given previous experiences with wingnut bettors on this board, any bets on election outcomes will require that wingnuts place funds in escrow to ensure payment in the event they lose.
Memo to Redneck: Your account is now two years past due.
@44 Let’s see …
You offered to bet that Pope will lose.
MLF offered to accept your bet.
Instead of accepting the wager, you went mealy-mouth on us.
Thanks for playing, wingnut. Next contestant, please.
@54…L…
I had an earlier post offering you a chance not to lose your allowance, but it’s run afoul of the spam filter.
Let me get this straight…You’re willing to bet $$$ that Richard Pope will win? And not just win but win big?
BTW…I was born in Pocatello, ID.
And @53…FofW…
The term is “welcher,” not welsher.
The Piper
@54 You didn’t even ask him to put the wager money in escrow, and he still wouldn’t accept the bet. Another wingnut coward exposed.
Definitions of welsh on the Web:
Goldy loves the democrats who have issues with women, Richard Pope, City Councilman Mark Olson, Brock Adams and Mike Lowry.
Asshole, you don’t want us to list Republicans who have issues with women. Or babies. Or cops in crappers.
Call me naive and hopelessly idealistic in the Internet age, but it’s disturbing to me that HA would make itself into a simple tool of the Richard Pope campaign this way. There’s a distinction between working on behalf of a candidate you support and letting his campaign use you to distribute its opposition research.
It will be hard to read future comments/dirt on Jane Hague posted on HA as anything other than another installment from Pope 2008.
Piper: Are you a BON VIVANT and a RACONTEUR?
67:
I knew there was something about him. I just could not put my finger (not that I really wanted to) on it.
Bleeeeeech! I bet he loves French food and lifts his pinky whilst sipping coffee.
YellowPup @ 66,
Yep…your naive. Most of what Goldy has posted about Hague has come from newspapers. This letter came from Pope.
Do you doubt the Del Spivey letter? Since this kind of information is easily verified, if it is incorrect, an apology will be forthcoming from Goldy.
If it is true (and it almost certainly is), why on earth would Goldy chose not to post it? That wouldn’t seem to be very sensible.
SC,
Neither. He’s the original Piper at the Gates of Dawn, and his mind has gone in pretty much the same direction as old Syd’s went. When it comes to critical thought, as the saying goes, there’s no “there” there.
I think we should all get together, and sing a chorus of Wish You Were Here for Piper. Or, Shine On You Crazy Diamond, perhaps?
By the way, Piper, either “welcher” or “welsher” is an acceptable spelling for the word meant to refer to someone who fails to make good on a bet. The former, however, is the politically correct term, as it is less of a reference to the Welsh people. Which leads me to ask, why are you being so PC on a lefty blog?
Darryl@69: I’ve been following Hague’s flameout via Goldy right here from the beginning. HA going after Hague’s alleged criminal activities and exposing her lying and lack of judgment has been great, it’s a public service. I don’t doubt the veracity of the letter, but the information was handled and presented poorly.
Here you have exclusive information that a political campaign appears to be leaking/laundering through HA via Goldy, and it’s not made clear in the post. Why, for example, didn’t Pope post this information on his own blog?
I would just humbly suggest that if information is supplied to HA from a political candidate/campaign that its source be attributed upfront. That would have made a world of difference to me here.
I’m glad that Goldy clarified the source for this post in the comments because at least it’s clear now that the author of the communication (about whom I otherwise know nothing) didn’t leak it himself, but that it’s just Richard Pope campaigning his own way. Pope is an interesting case because he wears many hats here (political candidate, “political gadfly,” “HA regular”), I think it’s worth being mindful of this.
@70…DJ…
Sorry…never been a Pink Floyd fan. My tastes run more toward The Fab Four, CSN&Y (I ignore Neil’s goofy politics), and PP&M…plus The Strathclyde Police, Bruce Gandy, the Lee brothers, the Bobs of Balmoral, Alisdair Gillies, and others.
I also like Broadway show tunes (particularly fond of Mandy Patinkin, perhaps the best interpreter of Sondheim tunes alive), bluegrass (Flat & Scruggs, Nickel Creek, and Allison Krause), Eva Cassidy, Bette Midler, Martina McBride, Nat King Cole, etc.
I like standards (Cole Porter, Gershwin), classical (Chopin, Mozart, Beethoven), jazz (Monk, Art Blakey, Burbeck), and other stuff.
My tastes are eclectic…
Welch is the preferred spelling…Welsh has too many other meanings…
@67…SC…
I have been so called by others, but to myself I avoid lending such appellations. Since I’m powerless to prevent otherwise, you may call me as you will. I, on the other hand, will simply stick to the issues…
@68…MLF…
I do like French food, though its richness can be heavy and, at my advanced age, somewhat unhealthy. Other cuisines I enjoy include Indian (huge fan!), Mexican, Italian, Greek (no uzo, though), British (too often derided, but nothing better than a good shepherd’s or steak and kidney pie…BTW, while in Scotland in 2001 playing in the World Pipe Band Championship, I discovered curry and chips, a marvelous combination!), classic American, Chinese, Indonesian, seafood (oysters on the half shell by the dozens!), and my own specialty, BBQ (I make my own sauce…charcoal only, no gas, which is for cheaters).
I’m a beer man over wine without much of a taste for hard liquor. Guinness is my preferred pour, having developed a real taste for it when I toured the Dublin brewery during my college days.
Still…you can’t beat Adams’ Old Fashioned with strawberry jam on whole wheat with an ice cold glass of milk!
And, when drinking tea from a classical tea cup, I do extend my pinkie. The handles on the damn things almost force you to, they’re so small!
There you have it…More grist for your collective criticism mill…
The Piper
Goldy hated Richard unhtil he switrched back to the Democratic party. Suddenly, they’re lovers. Only goes to show that Goldy is willing to embrace a lunatic with major stalker issues so long as he has a “D” after his name.
2&@
Jesus, windbag, who gives a shit? You think this blog exists as an admiration society for your self-satisfied autobiographical musings?
What a pompous buffoon. You couldn’t “stick to the issues” if you were covered with tar.
Typical conservative: perfect in every way.
@74…Chadt…
You folks seem to spend an inordinate amount of time speculating about my tastes and proclivities, I thought I’d simply address the issues, end the speculation and give you an opportunity to blow a gasket about something else.
Hey! I’m not the one who raised the issues, so don’t blame me!
Hope you have a nice, albeit chilly outside, day, there, Chadt…Don’t forget to take your blood pressure medicine; today’s efforts to date evidence you really do need it.
The Piper
Speaking of “covered with tar”, where is Uncle Tom Puddy this morning? Worshipping the new autobiography of Clarence Thomas?
– From Slate, today
I say “covered with tar” in the context that this must describe Puddy; If he were truly a Black man, he couldn’t embrace the Republican snake.
Of course, Clarence Thomas is a demonstrable pyschopath, a product of the Bush family of loons, so maybe Puddy is really a psychopath instead of just psychotic, as his ramplings would indicate.
@76…Chadt…
How racist are you? What gives you the right or authority to decide what a man – any man, irrespective of color – should think? Since when were you given the right to determine who is “…truly a black man?”
Elitist, bigoted crap…
The Piper
You have the nerve to call me elitist and bigoted, you pompous asshole??? Stick it up your butt, you pussified aristocrat wannabe.
On second, it would just fall out, due to the overuse of the orifice that constitutes your persona.
Roger @ 56: “Richard seems like a decent enough guy, and has a disabled child dependent on him for support, so he could use a paying job. And the council is a safe job to elect him to; the council is a committee, where no single individual, no matter how crazy, can do much damage by himself or herself. And who knows, Richard might even turn out to be a credible office holder, and perhaps even advance to something bigger, such as parking ticket magistrate. In any case, it is harder for me to see how anyone can make a case for re-electing Hague.”
I suppose as an act of strategic voting I’d reluctantly support Pope over Hague if I were in the district. However, I can’t agree that Pope is a “decent enough guy.” Over the last few years he has practiced some pretty creepy Rovian smears that suggest someone with serious ethical limitations. If Pope wins — and he well could if Hague continues to implode — I suspect that his darker side will return and cause the Democrats no end of problems.
Sure, Hague has got to go. But why glorify Pope in the process?