Awww, gee…I hate calling someone a liar.
Even as a degenerate “far left” liberal who grew up in a household colluding with Satan to destroy America (i.e. with a divorced parent), my mother taught me to give the benefit of the doubt. I call someone a liar only after other possibilities become implausible.
I can, in good conscience, call Tim Eyman a liar. I mean, he admitted to lying about taking donor money as personal compensation. Mike McGavick earned the moniker through a whole series of fibs and “parables” offered as fact (discussed here and here).
I’m not yet ready to pronounce Mr. Rossi a serial liar—even considering that he is (1) a Republican, (2) a Washington state Republican and (3) a real estate broker salesman. Not yet…but, man, Rossi and his campaign are sure trying my good will.
Yesterday Neil Modie at the PI reported on the misleading rate of fundraising that the Rossi campaign was boasting about.
His campaign reported last week that he brought in “over $463,300 during the month of October. He announced his candidacy for governor on October 25th.”
Curt Woodward of the AP adds:
In that fundraising statement, spokeswoman Jill Strait bragged about Rossi raising nearly $500,000 “in roughly one week.” The campaign refused to offer any supporting documentation.
So reporters from the mainstream media were duped into writing about the spectacular rate of fundraising—for example, take this post from, umm…Mr. Modie:
Rossi bursts rapidly out of the fund-raising gate
A lot of checkbooks were waiting to open once Dino Rossi declared his long-expected 2008 candidacy for governor Oct. 25.
In the week between his announcement and the end of October, the Republican raised more than $463,000 for his race against Democratic Gov. Chris Gregoire, his campaign reported Thursday. And he raised an additional $110,000 the first two days of November.
Or, as Woodward explains:
Based on Strait’s statement and interviews, The Associated Press and other news organizations reported that Rossi’s initial fundraising burst began with his Oct. 25 campaign announcement.
The campaign never raised any issues of accuracy about those reports. But campaign officials knew, and never clarified, that Rossi had been collecting campaign donations for about two weeks by the time he officially announced his gubernatorial bid.
After examining the Rossi’s campaign finance records, Neil Modie learned that:
…[Rossi’s] campaign started accepting contributions Oct. 12 and took in $97,750 even before he announced his candidacy Oct. 25. Of that sum, $86,800 came in donations of $2,800 each, the maximum amount allowed by law for the primary and general elections combined.
An additional $60,873 came in on the day of the announcement, more than half of it in contributions of $2,800 each.
The campaign, seemingly coming to the realization that it’s not nice to fool political reporters, has now issued an apology.
“I apologize to you if you feel like you were misled,” Strait told the AP. “I agree that we could have clarified that the first check came in on the 12th.”
Yep…you could have, but you didn’t. Instead, in issuing the apology, the Rossi campaign lied to reporters again (my emphasis):
After apologizing, Strait claimed that “there was never a secret” that Rossi decided to run for governor on Oct. 11, the day before he collected his first donations.
That statement is untrue: when asked about an impending Rossi campaign shortly before the official Oct. 25 announcement, Strait refused to offer any details of Rossi’s plans, saying only that he would be talking about his political future.
Ouch! The publicly-disclosed Rossi campaign is less than a month old (or the not-secret-unless-you-asked campaign is just over a month old) and already the media is insinuating that the Rossi campaign is a pack of liars.
I’m guessing that one of the first things you learn in Becoming a Politician 101 is “Never, ever, ever piss off the press by getting caught lying to them.” (Lying to the people? Probably okay…but not the press.)
The rest of Woodward’s article sure reads like someone who feels betrayed:
The “nearly half a million dollars” raised in “roughly one week” actually referred to the approximately $365,000 Rossi collected in the last week of October, combined with some $110,000 the campaign says Rossi raised on the first two days of November.
The most recent campaign finance reports do not include November donations, making it impossible to immediately confirm whether Rossi actually raised that much money in the first two days of the month.
And Neil Modie seems a little peeved, too. In yesterday’s article deflating Rossi’s fundraising hyperbole, Neil meanders to the topic of a PDC investigation of illegal campaigning on the part of Rossi:
[Lori] Anderson [Spokeswoman for the state Public Disclosure Commission] said the commission is also investigating a Rossi campaign Web site, telldino.com, because it was registered Sept. 8, before Rossi says he decided to run. Strait, his spokeswoman, said a Rossi campaign volunteer, Thomas Swanson, registered it on his own without telling Rossi so that the Web address would be available if the candidate did decide to run.
Strait said Swanson took the action after he and J. Vander Stoep, a Rossi campaign adviser, discussed the idea of creating telldino.com to enable citizens to give Rossi their suggestions for improving government.
Wait a minute! That sure has the look and smell of a tenny-weeny little fib.
If Rossi had not decided to run by September 8th, what purpose would there be in discussing a new web site for folks to offer Rossi “suggestions for improving government?” Isn’t that exactly what The Washington Idea Bank (a wholly owned subsidiary of Forward Washington Foundation) was created for? The site has a web form for offering ideas…to Rossi’s pre-campaign organization.
Are we really to believe that on September 8th (three days before Rossi secretly resigned from Forward Washington Foundation) a (future?) campaign adviser had discussed creating a new “Rossi Idea Bank” site, but that was all “before Rossi says he decided to run,” and the site was registered for non-campaign purposes? Right.
Now the needle is pegged on my implausiometer.
If Rossi had not decided to run by September 8th, what purpose would there be in discussing a new web site for folks to offer Rossi “suggestions for improving government?” Isn’t that exactly what The Washington Idea Bank (a wholly owned subsidiary of Forward Washington Foundation) was created for? The site has a web form for offering ideas…to Rossi’s pre-campaign organization.
Are we really to believe that on September 8th (three days before Rossi secretly resigned from Forward Washington Foundation) a future campaign adviser had discussed creating a new “Rossi Idea Bank” site, but that was all “before Rossi says he decided to run,” and the site was registered for non-campaign purposes. Right.
I’m telling you he was a quantum candidate back then. Both a candidate and not a candidate at any given time.
If Rossi needs to solicit ideas for improving government, he isn’t ready to be governor. By the time someone runs for governor, they should already have a clear vision of how to govern the state, and a clear understanding of why it should be governed that way.
Rossi should take a clue from the evangelical establishment. When they get caught fucking, stealing, and/or lying (usually all three in combination), they at least have the humility (or, more likely, pragmatism) to admit to their “sinfulness” and beg for “forgiveness” from those whom they have betrayed.
You fuckan liberals-always bashing the republicans! Never giving them the benefit of the doubt. Wait ’till Piepr Scoot gets home and reads this. He’ll straighten your asses out!
Here’s a case for Rossi and his handlers to study. Now, understand, I’m not suggesting they emulate these characters’ behavior; I’m only suggesting they emulate the principal perpetrator’s insincere repentance. Hey, insincere repentance is better than no repentance, which is the point.
This story ends, or more correctly begins, with the following homily by the 34-year-old head pastor of Chapel Hill Harvester Church in Georgia.
“‘I am so very sorry for the collateral damage it’s caused our family and the families hurt by the removing of the veil that hid our humanity and our sinfulness,’ said D.E. Paulk, who received the mantle of head pastor a year and a half ago.”
So what, you ask, did Pastor Paulk do to disgrace his church? Nothing except be born. He was apologizing on behalf of the megachurch’s founders, his uncle Archbishop Earl Paulk and his father Don Paulk.
But wait! According to court-ordered paternity tests, the archbishop isn’t the pastor’s uncle, and Don Paulk isn’t his dad. His “uncle,” you see, was fucking his brother’s wife 35 years ago.
That isn’t the only person now-80-year-old Earl was fucking, either. His sex objects also included church employees, church members, and little girls. And now Earl is in perjury trouble with the courts for lying about it under oath.
But wait! Sex isn’t the only thing Earl Paulk lied about. He also claims to have been one of the few southern white ministers to march with Rev. Martin Luther King Jr., and to be a signer of the civil rights movement’s Ministers Manifesto. There’s no evidence he did either of those things. Not a shred. Try as they might, everyone who has examined the original Ministers Manifesto can’t find Earl’s “John Hancock” on it, even with the aid of an electron microscope, and nobody remembers seeing him within a country mile of the legendary civil rights leader.
Earl Paulk is, however, an interesting character in his own right. In addition to starting one of the earliest megachurches, he is considered a Dominionist. Those are the guys who want to supersede our constitutional government with a theological dictatorship. His politics lean rightwing (did you need to ask?).
And oh yeah, his church members for decades were required to tithe 10% of their income so the archbishop could afford to live in style. He is, after all, a Man of God. And … if you don’t pay up, you’ll be denied salvation, and you’ll go to H ell. Yep, he’s one of those Rent-An-Afterlife entrepreneurs.
So, what we have here is yet another greedy, lying, perverted, child-raping, theocrats. And, caught with his pants down, he sends his nephew … er, I mean his son … to face the congregation and beg for forgiveness.
http://news.aol.com/story/_a/s.....0000000001
Okay, so the lesson here for Dino is this. If you don’t have enough guts to admit you’re a cheat and a liar, then delegate the job to your bastard son. But wait! I don’t know if Rossi even has a brother to cuckold. What if he’s an only son, and didn’t have a sister-in-law, and doesn’t have any bastard sons? Well, the thing to do in that situation is to send your hired flack to face the reporters, profess sinfulness, and beg forgiveness. But wait! What if his hired flack is a, you know, compulsive liar who can’t be trusted with such an important mission? Well, in that case, maybe he could get the dog to do it.
And if he doesn’t have a talking dog, he could always call Jane Balogh and ask to borrow hers.
Man, these rightwingers never fail to be entertaining.
By the time someone runs for governor, they should already have a clear vision of how to govern the state
Oh Lossi downloaded his vision from the BIAW. Anything Tom McCabe didn’t dictate, Lou Guzzo filled in.
An alternate title for this post could be “Run (from a lie) Dino, Run (from a lie)”.
Nice write up. Looks like the scrutiny on Rossi is going to make this a long and tough campaign sell for him this time around.
@4 I hear ya, Rev. I’m a sinful rabbit — I’ve fuck every cute female bunny in Green Lake Park — and next time I’m in church I’m gonna put a dollar in the Poor Box.
Don’t bother me with the facts. I’ve already made my mind up — and so have 60 million other Americans!
How could they be wrong?
I win!
The Pooper
Speaking of the governor……
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/.....ion20.html
OLYMPIA — Gov. Chris Gregoire tried to take a target off her back Monday and called for a one-day special session of the Legislature to reinstate a 1 percent limit on property taxes that was struck down by the state Supreme Court.
The special session would be Nov. 29.
“I believe we can easily enact the necessary legislation during a one-day session,” Gregoire said in a letter to legislative leaders. “The citizens of our state expect that we will expeditiously deal with this subject, and this subject only, to give them certainty about their property tax bills for the upcoming year.”
@8 Wouldn’t it be funny if Dino got knocked out in the primary? Trouble is, the Republicans don’t even have a fallback candidate in the wings in case Dino implodes. But wait! There’s always Richard Pope! He could become a Republican again, and who knows, he might even beat Dino in the primary! And, against Gregoire, he’d get his customary 42%, Gregoire would get re-elected, and everyone will be happy. 42% is more than any other GOPer can get in this state. Richard is the GOP’s best vote-getter, even when he runs as a Democrat.
In fact, Richard usually outpolls other GOP candidate even when he doesn’t run at all but merely squats on the ballot.
The WSRP isn’t exactly what you’d call a competitive political party …
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Gee, it’s a trifecta of fraud: Satterberg, Reichert, and now Rossi. Can the WSRP run a non-crooked campaign?
(Darryl, spelling notes: “Satan,” “publicly”)
@11 What’s your point, George? Do you oppose this? The citizens of Washington clearly want a 1% property tax cap, even if Timmie The Bungler is too inept to write a valid initiative, so it’s now up to the Democratic legislature and Democratic governor to accomplish what Timmie couldn’t. Why are you against tax relief for homeowners?
@14 I think it’s a disease with those guys.
YellowPup,
Thanks for the heads-up on the typos!
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hehehe Ah the dems are already scared. Oh it’s going to be a long year for them. Re-elect Dino
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Actually Chrissy ensured here defeat when she was
(s)elected.
Q: How do we know when Dino the Dim isn’t lying?
A: When he is sleeping. (Of course, even then, he is having dreams of deluding the populace.)
I can out Har that fucking rabbit. I wonder how long will it be before Rossi is caught in a pubic restroom wearing a wetsuit with a twenty dollar bill in one hand and a __________ in the other.
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I am Shocked, Shocked!!!
BTW …
John Edwards … financed his camnpagin for three years withy “foundations,” somehow staffed by folks who later became his campaign staff.
Our Dear Guv, as a Sorority President voted to keep ni
gce colored folks out. The denied she was a racist.Mitt Romney claims to be Christian but his close body, apparently, w/o telling Mitt, has been push polling on the Mormon issue.
Hillary Clinton “changed her mind” on drivers liscences.
Guiliani chnaged his on prety much everything.
FDR denied he had troops figting in Mongolia before 7 Dec.
Nixon, lied a lot.
Dwight David Eisenhower, a relatively poor guy, left the White House a Multimillionaire, same for Bill and Hillary. And then there wqs honest Bob Dole.
There HAVE been hinest politicians …,
Ron Sims .. “we need an income tx…”
Jimmy Carter “We need an energy policy …”
Ronnie Reagan (well, lying is OK if your obtunded)
McGovern … we are losing this war
Goldwater .. no lies, not much right either
John Kerry … “War hero vs AWOL idiot”
John McCain … “Bush is incompetent …”
Adlai Stevenson … no lies, too smart to lie.
Is there a pattern here?
Where is Karl Rove when we need him?
Being a HorsesAss does not mean one needs to Act LIke an Asshole
Look, demeaning Dino is all fine, good blogger fodder,
But, most this shit is NOT going to effect the voters.
Gregoire is not popular because she has done an poor job as a leader. She has obvious skills as an administrator and ..
by and large .. she is a consistent leftish lady. This and $3.50 will get here a Macchiato Duplio with Mocha.
She is less than popular because she has failed to show leadership in much of anything that is publically visible. Instead she has been missing form the field when a long pass was needed for any of Seattle;s transportation issues and after a lot of hoo haaa has been pretty dim in her support for education. Tax reform .. dongothere!
Trying to pin Rossi with the same things Edwards has done (on a far bigger scale BTW) is only useful if someone can show he has actually broken a law. Otherwise the Public will weight his against the guv’s huge travel schedule … hay Chris, where DID you stay in Tokyo? And who paid for the Fugo???
A bigger weakness of Rossi’s may be his association with Guzzo IFF someone can bridle that donkey to Rossi’s cart.
Last time many of the DL crowed tried o paint Dino as real Reprican Right Raptosaurus. There were cliams that he was secretly planning to enforce chastity on all females not married and bring back mandatory God worship before football games. Scary stuff but the more I digged the elss concrete evidence I could find of anything worse than memebrship and faith in the Roman Catholic Church. This can be disturbing, but only if the believer(s) thinkl it is their right to inflict Catholic law on the rest of us AND, if the believers are in apositon where there beliefs matter,
You know, like the current majority of the US Supreme Court, is it 5/9 or 6/0?
My point here is that accusing Dino Rossi of having certain beliefs will only work politically if there is evidence of intent to act on those beliefs. Otherwise, jibes at him may backlash.
224 Maybe, maybe not, but I type them neater than you do.
@25 “Is there a pattern here?”
Yeah, honest pols lose. The sheep prefer liars.
@26 I disagree with you that Gregoire isn’t a leader. She got more done in her first year than her predecessor did in 8 years. Of course, the fact Locke had to deal with a state senate controlled by GOP obstructionists has a lot to do with that. I could give you a long list of Gregoire accomplishments but you really should do this research yourself, SJ. Until you do, you’re talking through your hat. Is Gregoire above criticism? No, of course not. But between her and Rossi, there’s nothing to choose. Rossi has nothing to offer the people of our state. No experience. No vision. No commitment to the public good. He would be owned lock, stock, and barrel by developer interests. He would not appoint competent people to run state agencies; the GOP, which has been out of power in this state for 26 years, does not have anyone in their party with any experience at running agencies. A Governor Rossi would be continually at odds with the Democratic legislature, and absolutely nothing would get done. A Rossi administration would not be good for our state.
One of the things that didn’t happen during the 10 years that Republicans controlled the senate is that our roads didn’t get repaired because they refused to approve any gas tax increases. (Gas taxes are NOT indexed to inflation, and have to be raised periodically just to stay even.) The result was a huge backlog of deferred maintenance built up. After the 2004 election brought in a Democratic governor AND a Democratic legislature, transportation funding was passed within a few weeks. And what did our state’s Republicans do? They tried to repeal a 9.5 cent gas tax increase to help pay for all that deferred maintenance.
Never mind that gas tax increase didn’t cost Washington drivers a penny. Every cent of that gas tax money would have gone to oil company profits if it hadn’t gone to the state for road repairs. Anyone who understands how supply and demand works knows that.
The last several years have been a time of tight gas supplies. We have witnessed what economics refer to as price-rationing. When the supply of something is limited, and suppliers can’t increase supplies enough to meet demand, they will raise prices until demand comes into line with supply. If supply and demand are in balance at $3.25 per gallon, then that’s what gas will cost at the pump, regardless of whether the gas tax is 5 cents, 50 cents, or $1.50.
At the time of I-912, 5 cents of the 9.5-cent gas tax increase had been implemented. If voters had passed I-912, the oil companies would simply have raised the pump price 5 cents. If they didn’t, demand would exceed supply, and some pumps would run dry. If you don’t ration a limited supply of something with price, then it will get rationed some other way, such as first-come-first-served or only-10-gallons-per-customer. There is no way that taking 5 cents off the price increases the supply. It does, however, increase the demand with the result there isn’t enough gas for everyone who wants to buy it.
Probably many voters didn’t know enough about economics to understand this. However, most voters do know that roads aren’t free. A majority of our state’s voters agreed the gas tax increase was necessary to maintain our roads. Probably some, at least, also understood they would pay the same price for gas regardless of whether the state gas tax increased or stayed the same, and if they didn’t give that nickel to the state they’d have to give it to the oil companies, but either way they wouldn’t get to keep that nickel.
The gas tax is a regressive tax, but it’s about as fair as a regressive tax can be. Those who use the roads pay for them. You can reduce the gas tax you pay by driving less, or by buying a more fuel efficient vehicle, or by using mass transit. People who drive gas guzzlers pay more tax, but generally speaking are people with a greater ability to pay. All in all, the gas tax is a very fair tax, and everyone who pays it get something for their money.
Some, of course, get more than others. For example, the people in the “red” counties who voted for Rossi, and voted for I-912, and voted for the Republican legislators who for years refused to raise gas taxes for needed road repairs, get a lot more roads than they’re paying for. They are subsidized by the drivers in King County, who export over $125 million a year in gas tax money to 30 of the state’s other 39 counties. Do you really think all those highways in eastern Washington bordered by 1 farm every mile are paid for by the gas taxes paid by those farmers? They’re getting close to a 100-to-1 return on their gas tax money! Yet, they’re the people who bitch the loudest about gas taxes.
Maybe what we should do is let each county pay for their own roads and highways, then see how the anti-tax Republicans like driving on dirt cow paths.
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@24 You lose, but thanks for playing. =:-D
Instead she has been missing form the field when a long pass was needed for any of Seattle;s transportation issues
She finesse’d this the first time around by saying it would all go to a blue ribbon panel who would magically make it better, but we saw how well that worked.
There is little doubt the repubs will hand the disaster that is Seattle transportation right around her neck.
Hey Perfesser Darryl:
I remember this article in the Seattle Times. Funny did your 24 hour liberal mind forget it again?
http://archives.seattletimes.n.....8;query=st
“Gregoire’s prowess at filling coffers continues
By Ralph Thomas
Seattle Times Olympia bureau
OLYMPIA — Anyone thinking about taking on Democratic Gov. Christine Gregoire in the 2008 election better start rounding up a lot of campaign cash real soon.”
Hey Perfesser Darryl, I suggest you work harder at your day job because millions on welfare depend on you!
Dino Rossi:
Serial liar – his campaign is off to a flying start. The bottom line is that Washington state republicans have disgraced themselves once again. Luckily, Rossi never became governor – he doesn’t have the organization, the people or the ability to tell the truth needed to hold public office.
However, he whines really well….
From an excerpt posted on Scott McClellan’s (former Bush spokesman) publisher’s Web site and discovered by Editor and Publisher:
“The most powerful leader in the world had called upon me to speak on his behalf and help restore credibility he lost amid the failure to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. So I stood at the White house briefing room podium in front of the glare of the klieg lights for the better part of two weeks and publicly exonerated two of the senior-most aides in the White House: Karl Rove and Scooter Libby.
“There was one problem. It was not true.
“I had unknowingly passed along false information. And five of the highest ranking officials in the administration were involved in my doing so: Rove, Libby, the vice president, the president’s chief of staff, and the president himself.”
@26
Seattle Jew: You miss the point – it is not just the lies but the incompetence.
It is not just that Rossi has broken the law or skirted it (by the way – where is the evidence that Edwards did anything like that? – national campaign laws are not the same as state laws) but the Rossi campaign is incompetent.
that is the key – they can’t even file a correct FEC report, they lie to reporters and lie to cover up their lies.
This goes at the heart of the rossi campaign – yeah, Gregoire may not have been the best leader – but rossi can’t lead his way out of a paper bag – what colossal incompetence at the very start of his campaign!
He lacks organization, honesty and the ability to deal with the press…hmmm, not great material for governor.
Yeah, speaking of liars… I recall Queen Christine in debates proclaiming she’d never raise the gas tax without the approval of voters. It didn’t take her even 1 year to lie wholeheartedly. Yeah, I-912 was defeated, but not until after she had lied to us already…