In an article in New York magazine, a man operating a small business in New York City made this startlingly honest confession:
I hate to say it, but there’s no way I’m hiring a black guy to work for me.
Is this a good indication of how racism still significantly affects our society and continues to create artificial barriers to success for minorities? Absolutely, but not in the way you think. The business owner who made that statement isn’t a racist at all. He runs one of New York’s marijuana delivery services, and he knows that if he hires a black man to be a delivery person, that person is significantly more likely to get arrested on his route. He then tells reporter Mark Jacobson:
Fact is, pot is legal for white people but not for black people, which is total bullshit.
Recent arrest statistics compiled by Queens College Professor Harry Levine back up this observation:
In this way, the NYPD has arrested tens of thousands of New Yorkers every year for possessing small amounts of marijuana. These arrests are expensive, costing nearly $90 million a year. And there are other costs: an arrest record can result in severe collateral consequences, like loss of employment, or the chance at a college scholarship. Spending the night in one of the City’s overcrowded holding pens or in Riker’s can itself be traumatic.
The most alarming component of these arrests, however, are the racial disparities. Nearly 90% of all those arrested for possession of marijuana are Black and Latino. Whites comprise 35% of the City population, but make up less than 10% of all those arrested for possession of marijuana. These disparities are not indicators of who uses marijuana–over 1/3 of all adults U.S. have tried marijuana, and anyone on a casual weekend stroll through the Upper West Side or Prospect Park will find a number of white people puffing away.
As Gabriel Sayegh also points out in that same post, the number of arrests for low-level marijuana possession have risen from 900 in 1993 to 40,000 in 2008. With nearly 90% of those arrests being of minorities (and most of them young), those arrests tend to erase the kinds of opportunities that would otherwise be available. This trend hasn’t just been with marijuana either. All forms of drug enforcement – especially the long disparity between crack and cocaine sentencing guidelines – have created a gigantic divide between how the drug war affects white communities and how it affects minority communities.
It’s become fashionable to claim that racism in America is largely over and that the folks who claim it isn’t are attempting to exploit the gullible. The numbers from America’s drug war emphasize how false that belief is. Wherever one goes in America, the racial disparity in drug arrests is only becoming more extreme. In California, blacks are only 7% of the population, but make up 33% of marijuana felony arrests. There are six times as many whites and blacks in the state, but more black men are picked up for marijuana felony offenses than whites, even though whites and blacks use marijuana in equal percentages and there are six times as many whites in the state. From coast to coast this occurs, giving us a massive disparity in our prison population and creating a huge wealth gap between white and minority communities.
What’s interesting to note about this phenomenon is that throughout the criminal justice system, from prosecutors to police officers to judges, the individuals within the system will be adamant that they’re not racists themselves. And I think most of them are telling the truth. The system itself really isn’t the root of the racism. The racism tends to come from what the community expects of this system and pushes politicians to do with it. When it’s understood that way, as the manifestation of lingering American eliminationism, the results we have start to make more sense.
A perfect illustration of this phenomenon occurred a few years back in an exchange I had with a blog commenter from the Bay Area. She first left a comment agreeing with me that marijuana prohibition is stupid and that people shouldn’t be arrested for using it. Then, when I mentioned the racial disparity, her attitude changed. She became defensive of law enforcement and falsely claimed that blacks get arrested because they commit more drug crimes (they don’t). Finally, I posted a video of an old episode of COPS, where several black men where being tackled and arrested after buying small bags of weed from an informant. She quickly went from being against marijuana prohibition to expressing gratitude to the police for getting these dangerous people off the streets. To this day, I guarantee you that she doesn’t think of herself as a racist, and if you ever accused her of it, she’d flip out just as she did in the comments of that post.
This is the difficulty in understanding the real level of racism that infects our political debates today, and more specifically, the extent to which racism drives the “teabagger” movement. I sympathize with genuine small government conservatives who have been consistent in their opposition to both Republicans and Democrats. But I also get the sense that they don’t recognize how miniscule they are within the ranks of those who are waving tea bags and calling Obama a Communist.
On the other hand, I think Jimmy Carter is wrong when he says that the reason for such heated opposition is because Obama is black. It’s not simply because Obama is black (one could easily see the same protests if Hillary Clinton was President), it’s because Obama is a Democrat, and the Democrats are seen as the party that represents the interests of black America. The reason we’re seeing such an intense backlash to government spending all of a sudden is not because government is being more irresponsible with its spending than it was during the Bush era, it’s because the perception is that the money is being spent on the undesirables within our society, the same people who always seem to bear the brunt of our nation’s drug war.
As Glenn Greenwald points out in this post, it makes absolutely no sense to be more concerned about the tiny sums of money that we dish out to ACORN for the relatively minor scandal that they’ve been caught up in after years of being disinterested in the vast sums of money that we’ve given to war profiteers like Blackwater, or various war-crime-committing nations, or to the financial services companies that drove our economy into the ground. The only explanation is that ACORN is representative of black America, and therefore is seen as a threat disproportionate to their actual influence. But don’t dare call that phenomenon racist.
Until we start demanding that all Democrats sign onto to total drug reform, and releasing the half million who are injail today due to nonviolent drug “crimes,” while those who create and enforce the laws also did drugs (about half of them) and enjoy their expensive cocktails, nothing will change.
This means NOT donating to and not voting for liberals who would continue the war on drugs.
As long as we keep reelecting them, they will not change.
That’s the most ignorant analysis I’ve seen so far. It’s not that Obama is black, it’s not that his dumbass is a Democrat, the real reason we oppose him is he’s a socialist- Everything in this dumbasses life has centered around socialism from Frank Marshall Davis to Bill Ayers, to Jeremiah “God Damn America” Wright.
This sugar coated turd is finally getting the vetting that should have been done prior to entering the oval office. Unfortunately, the only truth based media left in this country is Fox News and independent journalists like the youngsters that infiltrated ACORN’holers and have them on tape aiding and abetting international human traficking for the purposes of child molestation/prostitution.
Yup, you Democrats should hold your head up high knowing you’re complicit in this by defending a group like the ACORN’holers.
ignorant beyond belief analysis, but hey, consider the source. Maddow is a racist for calling out a majority South Carolinians “obese”. To an elitist carpet muncher to call salt of the earth people like in SC obese- most of those are black- Maddow is simply regurgitating a sterotype of lazy black, obese people.
ACORN got $53 million in federal funds since 94, now eligible for up to $8 billion more:
http://www.washingtonexaminer......06217.html
But don’t let the facts get in the way of your ignorant propaganda, Lee.
3 – Wow look at that url – “opinion”.
Which are like assholes – everyone’s got one
And some people like Little Empty Suited Dumbass ARE ONE.
8 Billion more – what a stupid fantasy. What’s the source on that Bachmann? Really credible…
It is now that they’ve been exposed as the criminal organization they’ve always been and only getting nailed as of late thanks to videotape of them aiding and abetting in human traficking and child molestation/prostitution. Even Obama’s dumbass can’t help but sign the Congressional resolution to rescind all ACORN monies that were to come through the stimulus package.
Excuses are like assholes, everyone has one and they all stink. The clowns defending a reprehensibile group like ACORN are simply political ideologues so cemented in their stale thinking that they’ll excuse nearly everything in order to advance their agenda. Pathetic.
Lil’ Empty Suit Dumbass @ 2,
” Maddow is a racist for calling out a majority South Carolinians “obese”.”
You know, Squirt, you could try making an argument without exaggerating things to the point of being a lie.
Maddow did not call a majority of South Carolinians obese (or “obese”).
She pointed out, quite accurately, that, based on a 2009 Robert Wood Johnson Foundation study, SC ranked 5th in the nation for obesity. A graphic pointed out the state obesity rate at 29.7%.
@ 6 the nutty, lazy and unprepared professor Darryl @ 6
And why should that be a concern of yours up here in the NW? Many of those statistics reflect their culture and unless you would choose to impose restrictions on their eating habits (ala hitler), that’s not likely to change. I’ve lived in Charleston and the people there are very genuinely friendly (unlike Seattle) salt of the earth people. They’re more of a diverse population than you’ll ever see in this cowtown.
Again, why does a POS like Rachel Maddcow really care about the plight of S.Carolinians? In a word, she doesn’t. She’s just parroting DNC talking points in order to make Stanford and Joe Wilson look assbackwards. MSNBC isn’t a news organization (just look at their ratings), it’s simply a DNC mouthpiece that is hemmorhaging viewers with each passing day.
This has been your reality check…
The majority of South Carolinians are not “obese,” they’re “stupid.”
But that’s not why I’m here.
It has become fashionable among Republicans to claim that racism in America is largely over. By racism, am assuming (I presume correctly) that you are referring to the personal and institutional racism of the politically and financially dominant ethnic group against ethnic and/or racial minorities.
And when irrefutable examples, whether statistical or anecdotal, of such racism are presented to Republicans, they are DEAD SET against taking any action whatsoever to correct, punish, alleviate, or ameliorate the acts. Because that would be wrong.
What they ARE in favor of is immediate and overwhelming action to punish or legislate against any actual, perceived, or even just ginned-up acts of racism against any white person.
It’s kinda weird. They ‘re totally fired up against “racism” against whites (you know, the oppressed minority “discriminating against” the oppressors in some hard-to-understand way), but racism against blacks or Latinos does not exist, oh no (and even when it does we shouldn’t do anything about it because that wouldn’t be fair to white racists).
It’s no surprise that their favorables are in the toilet everywhere outside the South.
Today’s Republicans: In your heart, you know why they’re losing.
@ 8 ~ you’ve never stepped foot in SC so shut your fucking cunt hole about the residents there. You’ve shown that you’re nothing more than another Seattle groupthinker incapable of independent thought.
Lil’ Empty Suit Dumbass @ 7,
“And why should that be a concern of yours up here in the NW?”
Why not?
“Many of those statistics reflect their culture and unless you would choose to impose restrictions on their eating habits (ala hitler), that’s not likely to change.”
So? The fact is, as a state, SC has an abysmal record in standard indicators of health. That was the point.
“I’ve lived in Charleston and the people there are very genuinely friendly (unlike Seattle) salt of the earth people.”
That hardly seems relevant.
“They’re more of a diverse population than you’ll ever see in this cowtown.”
Without question. Relevance?
“Again, why does a POS like Rachel Maddcow really care about the plight of S.Carolinians? “
Because she cares about health care becoming available and affordable to people in every state.
“In a word, she doesn’t.”
That is your opinion born of either ignorance or your unmanaged anger.
“She’s just parroting DNC talking points in order to make Stanford and Joe Wilson look assbackwards.”
Some S.C. politicians have actively hampered the reforms she is interested in promoting.
“MSNBC isn’t a news organization…”
Fact: They are recognized as a bona fide news organization.
“(just look at their ratings)”
Fact: A ratings criterion is not used to differentiate between news organizations and non-news organizations.
“it’s simply a DNC mouthpiece that is”
Fact: It is unaffiliated with the DNC.
“hemmorhaging viewers with each passing day.”
Got any actual facts for that, Squirt? Here’s something from August 19th:
Your opinion would seem to be (as usual) wrong.
“This has been your reality check…”
(*Snicker*)
No one with a modicum of intelligence believes that, Darryl. But you can keep thinking it.
Care to share the ratings comparison with Fox News and other cable news programs? No, I didn’t think so.
In re: S.Carolinians- They likely don’t give a fuck what some lazy and unprepared professor from the NW thinks bout their lifestyle. That’s the great thing about America, you get to choose how you live your life despite liberals wanting (in their unending need to control others) to monitor and change their habits. No metrosexual liberal pussy from Seattle is going to tell a S.Carolinian what to do, I can assure you of that.
Lil’ Empty Suit Dumbass @ 12,
“No one with a modicum of intelligence believes that, Darryl. But you can keep thinking it.”
If, by “no one with a modicum of intelligence,” you are oxymoronically referring to “Wingnuts,” then I agree…but beliefs shaped by angry emotion are not facts.
“Care to share the ratings comparison with Fox News and other cable news programs? No, I didn’t think so.”
Try to keep up with the pace, Squirt. The excerpt I gave did discuss CNN and FOX News.
“In re: S.Carolinians- They likely don’t give a fuck what some lazy and unprepared professor from the NW thinks bout their lifestyle.”
I’ve not offered any opinion about the lifestyle of South Carolinians.
“That’s the great thing about America, you get to choose how you live your life despite liberals wanting (in their unending need to control others) to monitor and change their habits.”
Indeed…free as can be, unless your lifestyle violates some fundamentalist Christian belief. And…so long as you are white and male and not too poor.
“No metrosexual liberal pussy from Seattle is going to tell a S.Carolinian what to do, I can assure you of that.”
I suspect you are right. But we haven’t seen any metrosexual liberal pussy from Seattle trying to tell a South Carolinian what to do, have we?
Spoken like a true low self esteem guilt ridden white male in Academia….oh, did I mention a bigot towards religious people?
Newsflash dumbass, the president you bow down to is a supposed devout christian (most likely a phony one but helped jump start his political career in Chicago). Wow, there is no shortage of stupid people on this blog, as Darryl’s comments show.
Lil’ Empty Suit Dumbass,
“Spoken like a true low self esteem guilt ridden white male in Academia….”
LOL, Dumbass! What, on earth, does my statement have to do with self-esteem, guilt, or academia????
“oh, did I mention a bigot towards religious people?”
Huh? How is it bigotry to point out the fact that conservative (esp. fundamentalist) Christians have fought against other people’s lifestyles.
You are engaging in classic Wingnut projection! Precious.
“Newsflash dumbass, the president you bow down to is a supposed devout christian”
Yes…I know. What of it?
“(most likely a phony one but helped jump start his political career in Chicago).”
Sorry, Asshole, you are NOT the arbiter of who is and who is not Christian.
“the real reason we oppose him is he’s a socialist”
You wouldn’t know a socialist if one came up and sang you all the verses of The Internationale, in French.
Also: When did you start hating women? I suspect you drink heavily.
Your irrelevance is matched only by your rudeness.
acorn is a relatively mild scandal??? you fucking lying jackass.
Wow, I believe I’m watching an educated Southerner kick a bunch of urban intellectuals around inside their own echo chamber. Priceless!
I don’t think most repubs are racist. I think all teabaggers are racist and stupid, but then again those things usually do go together.
I think that that hillbilly Joe Wilson felt empouwered to heckle the president during the address to Congress because he thought he could. And he thought he could heckle the president because other white people who feel as he does wouldn’t have an issue with it. The ones sitting next to Wilson were smirking when he did it. They weren’t embarassed for him, they weren’t alarmed at what he did. Their expressions said they agreed that it was the right thing in the the right forum to do. And people like that whomper do this sort of thing because they are racist. Plain and simple.
Also, I had no idea that Christians said shit like “shut your cunt mouth.” The baby jesus would be sad, fucker.
Anyone hear about the EFF’s “Take The Field With Glenn Beck” extravaganza at Safeco this Saturday (9/26)?
My oppo-research department (spouse) has uncovered this side event to Glenn getting the key to the city in Mt. Vernon.
http://www.glennbeckseattle.com
From the website:
“These are difficult days in terms of the economy and the growing chasm between citizens and their government. Glenn Beck is a powerful spokesman for shrinking that chasm.”
You’ll have to sit in the stands to learn how to shrink the chasm. The diggers of the trench will have the premium seats ($100 to $500) that are all sold out. The ones where you get close enough to the great whacko commentator to touch his sleeve.
http://www.glennbeckseattle.com/tickets.php
I’m just askin’. This doesn’t seem like a spoof. Right here in Seattle, people are willing to pay big bucks to have a tea party. If it is a spoof, Pam Roach has fallen for it, she’ll be flying her mother in for the family values event. It wasn’t mentioned if she’ll be in a sheet.
http://pamroachreport.blogspot.....in-me.html
Glenn Beck shreds any liberal in his path and he merely does it with facts. It’s just that simple. Name one thing he’s lied about. Obama wouldn’t be President if white people didn’t vote for him. Most of those regret it now. Obama has got to go. His ideas are fail and more fail.
i love the way rick sanchez, cnn anchor, spent more time yesterday talking about the people who made the acorn video, than the issues of acorn. took it right out of the playbook when they attacked linda trip for making the lewinksky tapes instead of the content. so amazing.
or various war-crime-committing nations,
by the way lee, just curious. if one of the countries was israel, for their opression of the palestinians, would that be ok to say, or is israel the only country not subject to your war crime scrutiny.
2. Empty Suit Obama
After carefuly explaining that opposition ot Obama is not racial, he descrobed the president as
He then describes
and in post 3, goes on to say,
@8 @12 then goes on to refer to Professor Holman,
and Ms. Maddow as a piece of shit who wants to impose restrictions on (South Carolina’s) habits (ala hitler)
apparently Open Suit means empty head unless he thinks Ms. Maddow considers South Carolina full of Jews?
Of course Seattle is a
So maybe South Carolina is Dachau?
to all this @18. thinkforyourself spews:
Darry
You are among the top ten
This is a n honor higher than my nown accolade as a
Congrats!
Nice E.S.O., you exposed so-called “Professor” Darryl, his massive inferiority complex, lack of factual content, and general lack of real world life experience (and his brother) for what it is; not to mention his continuing jealousy while seeing other men in the locker room. LMFAO, and thank you.
Oh lookie here ylb arschloch fartin again
Ummm ylb arschloch, let Puddy tell you again, since you run from facts… from this morning stupido in the Open Thread…
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Hey ylb arschloch,
“Citizen’s Consulting Incorporated, you know that wonderful organization where our tax money goes in but there is no accounting is the real front for the 361 affiliated orgs that ACORN oversees. When you add up all the funds available in th Porkulus bill and who can access them that’s the 8+ Billion. Butt, don’t let facts stand in the way ylb arschloch. Keep on those kook-aid web sites. Well, Puddy knows you have limited reading skillz so here is a great site to become ACORN educated. Since you have so much time on your hands enjoy a great read.”
Puddy realizes facts hurt your femtometer mind and it’s not porn your crazy left eye craves.
EPIC FAIL fool!
The Prosecution Rests
Hye ylb arschloch,
Your mentor, Saul Alinsky dedicated his Rules for Radicals to Lucifer. Open your copy and read it closely. Puddy now realizes there is more truth to the comment of Hari Sevugan:
Hey ylb arschloch,
Did you remember when Puddy put this on the blog. Check the PuddyMissives. You can find it…
“Barack Obama’s training in Chicago by the great community organizers is showing its effectiveness. It is an amazingly powerful format, and the method of my late father always works to get the message out and get the supporters on board. When executed meticulously and thoughtfully, it is a powerful strategy for initiating change and making it really happen. Obama learned his lesson well.
I am proud to see that my father’s model for organizing is being applied successfully beyond local community organizing to affect the Democratic campaign in 2008. It is a fine tribute to Saul Alinsky as we approach his 100th birthday.”
ESO @ 3
I never tire of the hilarious spectacle of Republican so-called “thinking.” You don’t know, but you should, that an opinion column carrieslittle to no weight as a citation. The writer was really funny, I’ll give him that. He tells us that over fifteen years ACORN ahd received $53 million in federal funds (an average, in case you stopped at third grade, of $3.5 million a year). This amount does indeed qualify as “the tiny sums of money that we dish out to ACORN.”
But then the writer concludes from this previous meager pitance that that they “could” receive “up to” the entire budget of housing stimulus funds and Community Development Block Grant funds. Not that they ever have. ACORN is “eligible” for $8 billion in about the same way that everyone buying a lottery ticket is eligible for the multi-million dollar jackpot. This is another baseless right-wing scare story from a right-wing rag.
Community Development Block Grants fund soup kitchens, homeless shelters, and other support systems, that are actually financed mostly with private dollars. After all, we’ve had thrity years of Republican cuts in domestic programs–which of course won’t be enough until they’ve eliminated them altogether. If these organizations did not exist, the government would have to pay more or their would be significantly more crime since there are no jobs after Bush drove the economy into the toilet.
“Are there people out there who don’t like me because of race? I’m sure there are. That’s not the overriding issue here. I think there are people who are anti-government. I think there’s been a long-standing debate in this country that is usually that much more fierce during times of transition, or when presidents are trying to bring about big changes.” PuddyEmphasis – the preznit.
If you HA Libtardos remember Joe Wilson’s outburst came when “the messiah” claimed no illegal aliens would receive health care. Everyone in the liberal MSM ran to say “the messiah” was truthful. But what happened that Friday September 11? The New York Times came out and said the messiah’s administration would bar illegal aliens from purchasing into the exchange. Puddy placed the article for all to read. Check with ylb arschloch as he has all the PuddyMissives.
Even “the messiah’s” favrit 24×7 channel claimed
Today, for the first time as far as we know, the administration is backing a provision that would require proof of citizenship before someone could enroll in a plan selected on the exchange.
–Undocumented immigrants would not be able to buy private insurance on the exchange.
–Verification will be required when purchasing health insurance on the exchange PuddyEmphasis.
Wait a minute… Puddy and others showed this from the non-political Congressional Research Service (CRS) too. Notice the date August 26th. This is what Joe Wilson was referring to. Must be the HA Libtardos are exhibiting 24 hour memory disease.
“H.R. 3200 does not contain any restrictions on noncitzens participating in and paying for coverage available through the Exchange—whether the noncitizens are legally or illegally present, or in the United States temporarily or permanently.”
“Some have expressed concerns that since H.R. 3200 does not contain a mechanism to verify
immigration status, the prohibitions on certain noncitizens (e.g, nonimmigrants and unauthorized aliens) receiving the credits may not be enforced. However, others note that under §142(a)(3) of the bill, it is the responsibility of the Health Choices Commissioner (Commissioner) to administer
the “individual affordability credits under subtitle C of title II, including determination of eligibility for such credits.” Thus, it appears, absent of a provision in the bill specifying the verification procedure, that the Commissioner would be responsible for determining a mechanism to verify the eligibility of noncitizens for the credits.” – So some government bureaucrat “Commissioner” will verify the continual status of 6.5-11.9 million illegal aliens 24×7. Sure!
If you remember Puddy placed here the House Ways and Means Committee July 15, 2009 vote where Democrats killed by a party-line vote of 26-15, Rep. Dean Heller’s (R-NV) amendment. What was Rep. Dean Heller’s (R-NV) amendment? He called for improve screening of subsidized health care applicants to verify they are actually citizens or otherwise entitled to the health care. Sorry Democrats didn’t like that verification in their bill.
Now the whitey house backs these!
Puddy also placed here Rep. Nathan Deal’s (R.-GA.) amendment which Democrats killed July 18, 2009. Rep. Nathan Deal sits on the House Energy and Commerce committee. Rep. Nathan Deal’s amendment would provide verification requirements to prevent illegal aliens from receiving Medicaid benefits. Sorry Democrats didn’t like that verification in their bill.
So all this ballyhoo over race is the latest playbook attempt by Democrats to get support for “the messiah’s” health care plan which isn’t really his since his team isn’t writing it but three house committees and at least one senate committee. Probably being coordinated by the whitey house through rhambo or axelrod and implemented by congress.
So peeps can see this is another attempt by the Democrats to claim the race card here is the NY Times article again on the about face of the whitey house…
“Illegal immigrants were to be allowed in the exchange and even in the public plan if they used their own money under legislation that passed three committees in the House and one in the Senate. Before Friday, there was little indication that that would change, even in the crucial Senate Finance Committee, which is facing a deadline of early next week to complete a comprehensive health bill.” – PuddyEmphasis
@3
From the CDC: During the past 20 years there has been a dramatic increase in obesity in the United States….Thirty-two states had a prevalence equal to or greater than 25%; six of these states (Alabama, Mississippi, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, and West Virginia ) had a prevalence of obesity equal to or greater than 30%.
http://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/trends.html#State
I have relatives in both S & N Carolina and everytime I have been to either state the # of obese people is shocking. Heart disease and diabetes, two very preventable killers, returning people to the salt of the earth more and more every year. Sad.
Puddy the Good Kitty???
Joe Wilson’s out burts, have nothing to do with what Mr. Obama said.
He said that the bill would not provide funds to illegals. That is simply true.
The problem is simple .. cost shifting. If an illegal comes into Overlake Hopsital ER for an ear ache, the costs of handling what could be a simple office visit may be as much as $1000 and those costs arfe shifted to other parts of the OH budget. Someone gotta pay.
That expense does not end at paying for ER level care. In order to shift the costs, a bunch of bureaucrats have to find out how to hide the unfunded mandate .. adding a large administrative overhead.
There is really only one alternative … refuse healthcare to any uninsured person who can not prove citizenship. Are you willing to put armed guards in the ERs to turn away peole who need healthcare?
A Practical Problem for Puddy
We are about to pro0tect the nation by vaccinating children for swine flow. Protection requires vaccinating everyone, that is how a vaccine works.
Would you refuse to vaccinate Pedro because he is an illegal?
Send Pedro home SeattleJew. That’s the SIMPLE and CORRECT answer.
No if’s ands or buts
SeattleJew, if what you claim in #34 is true then why the September 11th Friday night surprise from “the messiah” and his “disciples”?
Why did this happen right after SeattleJew – “
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“Already under fire from the Right on the issue of illegal immigration, President Obama is now coming under fire from the Left for making it harder for undocumented workers to buy private health insurance.” – Notice the George Steponallofus code words “undocumented workers” because he received the DNC memo “Don’t use illegal aliens anymore”.
“Referring to the Obama administration, Gutierrez said: “Those who should be our friends, our allies, are more and more giving Rep. (Joe) Wilson, R-S.C., exactly what he wants to continue with this prejudice against our community.”” – Now that’s interesting. Now “the messiah” is actually agreeing with Joe Wilson complained about in the health care bill but they still call Joe a liar. This can’t get any better for Democratic comedy!
Speaking of Obama. What a fucking coward not to appear on Chris Wallace’s show. That cunt is going to appear on 5 networks including univision (which no one sane watches) today, but he’s a fucking coward of the lowest order for not appearing on the only network that people respect and can expect to get their news.
Fuckin’ pussy. Just as I expected, the thin skinned cunt runs and hides from real interviews.
Are you fuckin’ retarded? I wasn’t aware that tiny sums of money constituted 3.5 Million you ignorant cunt. Fact is, they shouldn’t receive one dime from the federal government unless we, as taxpayers, want to be complicit in an organized criminal organization.
I Watched that dumb cunt Bertha Lewis (ACORN-holer in charge) on Chris Wallace’s show with Rep. Issa. That dumb cunt didn’t even look at Issa and when asked a question, she resorted to talking points to the point that wallace had to lead her dumb ass back to the question she was asked. Wow, if that pig is the head of ACORN, it is no surprise that they’re in the trouble they’re in…Stupid doesn’t begin to explain that organization and its leadership.
Racism exists, but it isn’t what’s holding black people back. They are holding themselves back, then blaming it on racism.
heh. Little Empty Suited Dumbass suffers from a bad case of Obama Derangement Syndrome.
For a sad case like him, there can be no other mental condition. If Obama wasn’t around he’d hate something else.
Pretty pathetic way to go through life and he doesn’t end up doing violence to someone, he’ll certainly fuck his own stupid self up.
Awwwwww… Little Stupsie says my mentor is Alinsky.. Wouldn’t ya know it?
However it doesn’t seem to sink in to little Stupsie’s pin head that the biggest readers of Rules for Radicals these days are his own right wing peeps including pimp and ho James/Hannah..
http://www.politico.com/blogs/.....insky.html
Right wingers influenced by Satan – who’d a thunk it but poor little Stupsie..
Poor little Stupsie..
More on Satan and his pimp and ho:
http://www.newshounds.us/2009/.....linsky.php
Poor little Stupsie..
You would know pathetic cunt boy arscloch. Try getting a job and moving outside the parents basement bitch. If I needed a child molesters point of view, you’re the first person I’d dial…you fuckin’ cowardly pedophile.
44 – WAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
I laugh at you and your hateful “mind” little empty suited dumbass.
You deserve all the derision, contempt, ridicule we can muster.
Stick around here a long time little empty suited dumbass. Nothing but entertainment for all of us on the winning side!
@ 45~ run along cunt boy arscloch. You have little to offer in the form of debate as Puddy has dismantled you on a regular basis. You’re little more than a trainable chimp of the DNC and we determine how high or low you jump.
Stupes…
ALINKSKY!
BOO!
46 – LOL! Didn’t you get the memo little empty suited dumbass???
We don’t take orders from shitheaded right wing nutjobs! Freepers – psychophants of Limbaugh and Sean’s Inanity!
We’ll NEVER take your orders!
That must really BURN… YOUR… ASS!!!!
AAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
So I read that Stupes believes in that stupid 8.5 billion fantasy.. Sean Inanity inflated that into the TRILLIONS…
Just like he believed in those mythical oil wells off Cuba..
Just comes a time when you just gotta turn off the noise from nutjobs..
What you mean is people like limbaugh and hannity that actually report the news. Of course you don’t dumb cunt…you prefer to be spoon-fed a shit sandwich compliments of the DNC and gobble it up like the good little puppet you are, arscloch boy.
If ignorance is bliss, YLB is happier than a pig in shit.
News like 2 million people on the “Million Moron March”..
Yeah right and you wonder why we laugh at you..
Little Empty Suited Dumbass…
You are too ignorant to even talk to YLB, so you’re dismissed.
Go suck your thumb somewhere else cunt boy.
on that we agree, the lazy and ill prepared president is a dumb ass in an empty suit.
“ignorant cunt” “dumb cunt” “thin skinned cunt” “cunt boy”
heh- I’m sure Marvin will be here any moment now to slime the Empty Suit as a woman hater.
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asswipe @ 51
You just said you believe Limbaugh when he says the million moron march attracted 2 million morons.
Great! Thanks for playing.
Little Empty Suited Dumbass.
Puddwaxx comes home to find his wife in bed with another man.
She starts laughing when he holds a gun to his head, ready to shoot.
“Don’t laugh,” he says, “You’re next.”
First we start off with Winston sucking his doorknob…
Ooooooh, really NOT funny! Because unfortunately for you Puddy is all the man she needs fool!
Sucka!
ESO,
ylb arschloch can’t read about how the $8+ Billion level was reached. 361 organizations get money ylb arschloch fool. Please continue to stay ignorant. Puddy gave ylb arschloch the URLs and ylb arschloch skips right over them telling all of us who think right ylb arschloch don’t take orders but ylb arschloch loves to give orders all the time.
Funny ESO, rujax has nuthin to say for his cousin the dumb brick. He’s past being an empty suit… it’s an empty mind.
ESO,
Look at what the dumb brick ylb arschloch wrote in 42 & 43 as a result of reading this…
Of course ESO ylb arschloch is confused. In fact ylb arschloch’s so confused ylb arschloch will be looking up soon from ylb arschloch’s bed with unblinking unfocused eyes with piss and shit in ylb arschloch’s pants with a cold sweat and drool coming from ylb arschloch’s mouth.
Wait a minute… ylb arschloch already has the unblinking and unfocused eye. The picture is already there for all to see. Vacancy is flashing dead center in the neon light. From ylb arschloch’s blog entries it’s evident ylb arschloch’s in the catatonic state in each and every post.
That has nothing to do with the question. As long as there have been borders, there have been illegals. Our law requires ERs to care for all comers, THEN your kind can deport them.
The question still needs an answer.
As for sending Pedro home, a minimal estimate of the ocst of doing that runs something like
100 billion dollars ($5,000 to apprehend and process 20 million Pedroes). ERRR AHHH … are you willing to pay some sort of tax for this purpose? BTW, I assume you are also them willing to care for all their children who now become parentless US citizens?
@37 Puddy
If you want to play in my league here, you better do a better job thinking out your argument or you will choke on the fur balls.
Obama said no federal funds would go to subsidize health insurance for illegals. An illegal who buys private insurance is not getting federal funds.
ESO
SJ really has begin to wonder about what kind of a pervert ESO may be.
He tells us …
Obama is a thin skinned cunt. Now that is an odd image. Does ESO prefer thick skinned vaginas?
Obama is a fucking coward. I guess this means Obama is not brave enough to practice the S&M ESO likes? How does ESO know what sort of intercourse the President practices?
Univision is only watched by insane people, apparently speaking Spanish is a diagnosis for schizophrenia in ESO land.
Fucks News is the only network “people” respect. ESO. apparently moves in odd circles?
Perhaps ESO’s respect for Fucks News comes from a concern for other sexual issues? He seems to worry that Daddy Love may be “fuckin’ retarded?” and Bertha Lewis is a “dumb cunt.” I suppose this means ESO thinks DL does not practice intelligent design during intercourse? Does he actual;ly think some vaginas have intelligence of their own? Is he an intelligent cunt?
Could be because he thinks Mike Wallace leads guests around by their dumb asses! No wonder Mr. Obama didn’t have the “courage” to be on that show!
limbaugh and hannity (note the clever reference to ee cummings!) actually report the news. Meantime, the other news media feed people shit sandwiches with a spoon?
The words of the right wing moron himself:
So that explains why the right wingers like Stupes are so obsessed with it and using it to guide their stupid teabagging!
Caught in a web of his own idiocy!
Hey Stupes!
Look out!
ALINSKY!
BOO!
All of them spelled A C O R N right little Stupsie?
Moron…
I heard something funny about the 8.5 billon dollar fantasy of Stupes and his fellow travellers:
“tin foil hat adjustment”
Too funny. What a bunch of idiots.
SeattleJew, Puddy is shocked about your comment@61…
SeattleJew The HR 3200 does not require any identity verification whatsoever for anyone claiming born in the U.S.A.
As stated above, the non partisan CRS report page four states “H.R. 3200 does not contain any restrictions on noncitizens – whether legally or illegally present, or in the United States temporarily or permanently – participating in the Exchange [Health Insurance Exchange]”
In 2008, the March 2008 Current Population Survey (CPS) was performed by the US Census Bureau. The US Census Bureau determined there were approximately 37.3 million foreign-born persons in the United States in 2008. The foreign-born population was comprised of approximately 15.1 million naturalized U.S. citizens and 22.2 million illegal aliens. Isn’t that an amazing number SeattleJew?
““Nonresident alien” is a term under tax but not immigration law. For federal tax purposes, alien individuals are classified as resident or nonresident aliens. In general, an individual is a nonresident alien unless he or she meets the qualifications under a residency test. Thus, legal permanent residents, and noncitizens and unauthorized aliens who qualify as resident aliens (i.e., meet the substantial presence test), would be required under H.R. 3200 to have health insurance.” PuddyEmphasis
SeattleJew what does “substantial presence test” really mean?
As Puddy sees it the substantial presence test is defined by the IRS as someone having been in the USA for at least 31 days of the current year and someone having been in the USA at least 183 days of the current year and previous two years. Do you see any mention made of legal status in the legislation for determining substantial presence SeattleJew? So if an illegal alien meets the substantial presence test, is he required to have insurance? You can read just as well as Puddy.
SeattleJew as Puddy stated above… HR 3200 provides, a Health Insurance Exchange. This Exchange in HR 3200 if passed, would begin in 2013. This Exchange would offer private plans alongside a public option. These are guvmint option private plans. Things not offered now SeattleJew. Something new SeattleJew. Something in the HR 3200 bill SeattleJew.
“In addition, under H.R. 3200, a “Health Insurance Exchange” would begin operation in 2013 and would offer private plans alongside a public option. The Exchange would provide eligible individuals and small businesses with access to insurers’ plans, including the public option, in a comparable way. Individuals would only be eligible to enroll in an Exchange plan if they were not enrolled in other acceptable coverage (for example, from an employer, Medicare and generally Medicaid). H.R. 3200 does not contain any restrictions on noncitzens participating in the Exchange—whether the noncitizens are legally or illegally present, or in the United States temporarily or permanently. Nonetheless, only aliens who could be classified as resident aliens would be required under the bill to have health insurance.”
Here SeattleJew, let Puddy help you…
TITLE II–HEALTH INSURANCE EXCHANGE AND RELATED PROVISIONS
Subtitle A–Health Insurance Exchange
Subtitle B–Public Health Insurance Option
Subtitle C–Individual Affordability Credits
Subtitle C–Disclosures To Carry Out Health Insurance Exchange Subsidies
SEC. 100. PURPOSE; TABLE OF CONTENTS OF DIVISION; GENERAL DEFINITIONS.
(a) Purpose-
(1) IN GENERAL- The purpose of this division is to provide affordable, quality health care for all Americans and reduce the growth in health care spending.
(2) BUILDING ON CURRENT SYSTEM- This division achieves this purpose by building on what works in today’s health care system, while repairing the aspects that are broken.
INSURANCE REFORMS- This division–
(A) enacts strong insurance market reforms;
(B) creates a new Health Insurance Exchange, with a public health insurance option alongside private plans;
Subtitle D–Additional Consumer Protections
Sec. 131. Requiring fair marketing practices by health insurers.
Sec. 132. Requiring fair grievance and appeals mechanisms.
Sec. 133. Requiring information transparency and plan disclosure.
Sec. 134. Application to qualified health benefits plans not offered through the Health Insurance Exchange.
TITLE II–HEALTH INSURANCE EXCHANGE AND RELATED PROVISIONS
Subtitle A–Health Insurance Exchange
Sec. 201. Establishment of Health Insurance Exchange; outline of duties; definitions.
Sec. 202. Exchange-eligible individuals and employers.
Sec. 203. Benefits package levels.
Sec. 204. Contracts for the offering of Exchange-participating health benefits plans.
Sec. 205. Outreach and enrollment of Exchange-eligible individuals and employers in Exchange-participating health benefits plan.
Subtitle C–Individual Affordability Credits
Sec. 241. Availability through Health Insurance Exchange
Sec. 242. Affordable credit eligible individual.
Sec. 243. Affordable premium credit.
Sec. 244. Affordability cost-sharing credit.
Sec. 245. Income determinations.
Sec. 246. No Federal payment for undocumented aliens.
There are more Health Insurance Exchange entries in HR 3200. You can read all about them.
Once again SeattleJew you resort to doublespeak.
You see SeattleJew the amendment to verify citizenship was voted down in committee by the Democrats as stated above. HR 3200 has no mechanism to verify US citizenship status before getting the proposed healthcare. Democrats killed by a party-line vote of 26-15, Rep. Dean Heller’s (R-NV) amendment. What was Rep. Dean Heller’s (R-NV) amendment? He called for improve screening of subsidized health care applicants to verify they are actually citizens or otherwise entitled to the health care. An illegal alien can simply claim to be legal using fake credentials and there is no verification. The use E-verify and SAFE were rejected by your favrit party, Democrats.
What a tard ylb arschloch appears…
Moron, how did you come to this conclusion? Did you find it on your thumb when you pulled it from your arschloch? You looked and said: “Look what I found. Let me write this on HA.” What a moron, the people who think right are using Democratic tactics against them like a great general will learn the tactics of his enemy and figger out a strategy to turn enemy tactics against themselves. This doesn’t mean one iota they agree or believe them.
This is why you are the dumbest brick on HA ylb arschloch. Dumb and getting dumber by the femtosecond!
ylb arschloch screams
Yep, that ylb arschloch, he’s amazing…
Another amazing deduction from ylb arschloch
Where did Puddy say this ylb arschloch?
Time and Date Stamp?
Citation?
URL?
Puddy will wait SUCKA!
71 – You fantasized it. With right wing idiots like you, an organization you’ve been trained like a seal to hate goes from getting 3.5 million to 8.5 billion to 8.5 trillion.
That hate.. it make you FEEL good doesn’t it lil’ Stupsie?
http://www.politifact.com/trut.....on-federa/
SeattleJew@62,
funny you should mention the news…
When looking at the Media Bistro data for ABC, CBS and NBC, you know the one who didn’t know about ACORN and admitted it, the one who left the morning news, and the one from the “all messiah channel”, one immediately sees the following…
* Their viewership are down at least twenty eight percent from late January when the messiah became preznit.
* Looks like they are only drawing around twenty million viewers. That’s pathetic!
* Over thirty seven percent have said no thanks to these three in the marketing rich 25-54 year old demographic. Advertisers are running away.
* They are down by almost nine percent overall and greater than eighteen percent in the 25-54 demographic from a year ago.
* People are getting tired of “the all messiah channel” NBC.
And we all know about CNN and PMSNBC vs Fox eh SeattleJew? Just burns you up huh?
ylb arschloch responds
He’s still the dumbest brick on that side of the aisle!
Where’s da beef ylb arschloch? Oh you ain’t packing da beef. You don’t wear da pants either!!!!
SeattleJew,
Puddy said advertisers are running away above. Here’s the link. Notice layoffs at “the all messiah channel”. But remember Van Jones was “instrumental” in getting the Glenn Beck boycott yet Fox News viewership has increased.
SeattleJew@62
SeattleJew you thinking about Eve Ensler’s Vagina Monologues again?
@2 “the real reason we oppose him is he’s a socialist”
Congratulations — you’ve superseded the most ignorant analysis you’ve seen with an even more ignorant analysis. You clearly have no fucking idea of what the word “socialist” means.
@6 “criminal organization”? You must be referring to the GOP. That’s a criminal organization if there ever was one …
@76 Puddy
Actually, I have not read the Vagina Monologues, seemed to incestuous to me. What sort of porn do you read?
I tend to the older, mofre romantic stuff .. like this ….
(expurgated for the too delicate eyes of HA younguns ..???
SHE Let him kiss me with the kisses of his mouth— for his love is more delightful than wine.
Dark am I, yet lovely, O daughters of Jerusalem,….I liken you, my darling, to a mare harnessed to one of the chariots of Pharaoh.
My lover is to me a sachet of myrrh resting between my breasts.
…. our bed is verdant .. I delight to sit in his shade, and his fruit is sweet to my taste
HE
Your lips are like a scarlet ribbon; your mouth is lovely. …..your two breasts are like … like twin fawns of a gazelle
Your lips drop sweetness as the honeycomb, my bride; … milk and honey are under your tongue.
You are a garden locked up, my sister, my bride; … Your plants are an orchard of pomegranates….
SHE
Blow on my garden, that its fragrance may spread abroad.Let my lover come into his garden
and taste its choice fruits.
@73 Puddy
Gosh, so HATE SELLS? hOW ABOUT SEX? BREAD NZAD GAMES? PORN???
I thought you was a Christina? DO you think your Jesus would like Glen Beck?
@67 Puddy spools long turdy cat shit ..
Nothing you posted changes the facts that the bills do nothing for illegals. True they can BUY insurance. They can do that now, only NOW of they don’t do that we all pay for their care by cost shifting .. at estimated $1500 per each of us.
is that a good thing?
Seriously man, oif you want to discuss something do so, but posting broadsides of irrelevant fact just wastes pixels.
Puddy’s dumb quotes
Did BHO promise to make nationality a test for healthcare in ERs? Is that what you want????
The exchange is simpy a way, as proposed by McCain, to force the effin insurance companies (you like them?) to compete with each other. They are NOT subsidized in the plan.
Supposedly the pubhealth option will also be self financing. … we can debate that very real issue separately, but, rhe worst interp of this is that some illegals would choose to pay for their healthcare rather than freeloading as they do now. Is that bad?
We miss you at DL. Bring Mrs kat, BRS needs lady cat company!
SeattleJew, SeattleJew, SeattleJew,
Not what the non-partisan CRS said and you know it. There were many holes in the bills which illegal aliens could get into the plan along with the Exchange.
The preznit, finally said on George Steponallofus’ Sunday show that the health care bills will have a nationality test. For emergency care there won’t be one.
You seem to conveniently forget the two attempts for citizenship nationality were rejected.
You seem to conveniently forget the CRS stated illegal aliens can purchase into the plan because there were no citizenship tests. Also since many would meet the substantial presence test they could get insured without any questions due to faulty documents. If this wasn’t true why did the Sept 11 2009 whitey house health care announcements happen and the NY Times carry them the next day September 12th? Because you are one of those being dense to what the preznit said vs. reality he had to clarify the citizenship test.
SeattleJew,
It was you who attacked ESO over the word vagina. All Puddy did was remember that stupid Eve Ensler thing and ask you about it. Puddy thought it was stupid then and it’s still stupid now.
Sorry Ouddy, I did not attack hum ,, just summarize his words to save folks time.
@83 Puddy
sweet and fluffy you may be, but that red ribbon and cat bell around your neck make it hard to take you seriously.
What BHO said is that the bill would not (and still does not) provide federal funding to illegals. Letting them buy insurance is not providing any money, it actually saves money since it eliminates cost
SeattleJew,
What are you drinking? Just because “the messiah” said something doesn’t make it true. Otherwise the late Friday night September 11th pronouncements weren’t needed because per your commentary “he said it was this way, therefore it’s that way”. That’s one fallacious argument dude. All the verification check amendments were rejected before his “health care speech” and now are going to be added. SeattleJew, I expected more from you than being a kook-aid drinker. There were no E-Verify or SAVE methods in the bills.
You need to get your paws cleaned cuz you’ve entered the turd zone!!!!!
puddy ..
Come down from your tree. Obama said the bill would not provide a federal subsidy for illegals. They do not.