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by Goldy — Wednesday, 11/8/06, 3:54 pm

Forced quit

UPDATE: (5:39 PM)
Not that we didn’t already know the Dems took control of the Senate, but the AP just officially called Virginia for Webb.

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  1. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 4:10 pm

    I just want to remind everyone what kind of people post comments on Sound Politics.

    “Congratulations Speaker Pelosi, now let the bombs fall where they may. My prediction: terror attack on domestic soil passenger aircraft within the next six months. Casualties in the 2-300 range. And, unfortunately, maybe that’s just what we need. It’s obvious people don’t remember what happened 5 years ago.”
    Posted by FullContactPolitics at November 8, 2006 10:52 AM

    http://tinyurl.com/ydlfwu

    (Quoted in full; nothing taken out of context.)

  2. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 4:10 pm

    And these people criticize Kerry?

  3. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 4:11 pm

    All Kerry did was bungle a jibe directed at Bush. This guy is saying he wants terrorists to kill Americans (apparently in revenge for electing Democrats).

  4. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 4:12 pm

    FullContactPolitics — you are one bitter, sick, twisted psycho. Please seek professional help.

  5. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 4:13 pm

    Mike!? McGavick joins the ranks of John Carlson, Ellen Craswell, and Motherbeat Irons as big-time Republican loooosers! Even Richard Pope got better numbers than McGavick! He did better than Low Tax Looper, though.

  6. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 4:15 pm

    Mike!? McGavick — another failed GOP politician consigned to the footnote section of state history textbooks; never to be heard from again.

  7. Brian spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 4:15 pm

    Goldy,

    Don’t you know Rummy doesn’t run on a Mac?

  8. rhp6033 spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 4:35 pm

    I suspect McGavick wants to run again in two years, but he will not want to take a position lower than Senator, President, or Chief Justice.

    In the meantime, he will want a job to pad out his resume. I don’t think lobbying will work for him this time. He won’t be very welcome (or effective) with the Democrats in charge of the House, and possibly the Senate also. But lots of Bush appointees will be abandoning ship over the next year (it always begins the moment the President becomes a lame duck). He may want to slide into some cabinet or diplomatic post as a Bush appointee to tide him over until he starts his campaign run again next year.

  9. rhp6033 spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 4:37 pm

    Probably the first question McGavick asked this morning was: “Okay, Cantwell wasn’t the easy pickings we thought. When does the other Senator – eh, what’s her hame – run for re-election again?”

  10. stedman spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 4:41 pm

    This should be our theme song for this victory:

    Martha And The Vandellas Dancing In The Streets Lyrics

    Calling out around the world
    Are you ready for a brand new beat
    Summer’s here and the time is right
    For dancing in the street
    They’re dancing in Chicago
    Down in New Orleans
    Up in New York City
    All we need is music, sweet music
    There’ll be music everywhere
    There’ll be swinging swaying records playing
    Dancing in the street

    Oh it doesn’t matter what you wear
    Just as long as you are there
    So come on ev’ry guy grab a girl
    Ev’rywhere around the world
    They’ll be dancing
    They’re dancing in the street

    It’s just an invitation across the nation
    A chance for folks to meet
    There’ll be laughing, singing, music swinging
    Dancing in the street
    Philadelphia, PA
    Baltimore and D.C. now
    Can’t forget the Motor City
    All we need is music, sweet music
    There’ll be music everywhere
    There’ll be swinging, swaying, records playing
    Dancing in the street

    Oh it doesn’t matter what you wear
    Just as long as you are there
    So come on ev’ry guy grab a girl
    Ev’rywhere around the world

    Dancing
    They’re dancing in the street
    Way down in L.A.
    Every day
    Dancing in the street

  11. Another TJ spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 5:11 pm

    This piece by Digby adds a little more meat to Goldy’s post below about the role of the netroots and grassroots in reforming the Democratic Party and righting the nation.

  12. The Socialist spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 5:41 pm

    I think now is the time for the Socialist party and the Democratic party to merge and become the Democratic Socialist Party of America.

    We should start by electing Berney Sanders as leader of the Senate in this new congress.

  13. The Socialist spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 5:42 pm

    I think now is the time for the Socialist party and the Democratic party to merge and become the Democratic Socialist Party of America.

    We should start by electing Berney Sanders as leader of the Senate in this new congress.

  14. proud leftist spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 5:46 pm

    Stedman @ 10
    Gloating online is not as satisfying as gloating in person, but it ain’t bad, is it?

  15. Another TJ spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 5:55 pm

    Following up on my post above, I just noticed that FDL has a pretty good roundup of the scramble for credit and competing lessons of this election.

    Also, TBogg’s hilarious predictions post needs to be seen. Compare his predictions to your election night experiences.

  16. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 6:11 pm

    As Goldy’s update points out, Associated Press just called Virginia for James Webb! Democratic House, Democratic Senate.

  17. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 6:11 pm

    Subject to recount. At this moment, Virginia has the highest concentration of lawyers on the planet.

  18. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 6:13 pm

    Let’s not forget that yesterday’s election was marred by dirty tricks. We need to talk more about that in the days ahead. Like the gun-packing dude who stopped Hispanics on their way to the polls …

  19. RightEqualsStupid spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 6:13 pm

    Yes the righties are out to hurt America and they hate it that we’ve taken the country back from them so bad that they are hoping for terror attacks against US cities.

    Let’s hunt these fuckers down and give em some justice. They’re traitors. Simple fact.

  20. RightEqualsStupid spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 6:13 pm

    Yes the righties are out to hurt America and they hate it that we’ve taken the country back from them so bad that they are hoping for terror attacks against US cities.

    Let’s hunt these fuckers down and give em some justice. They’re traitors. Simple fact.

  21. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 6:17 pm

    “In Arizona, three men, one of them armed, stopped Hispanic voters and questioned them outside a Tucson polling place, according to voting monitors for the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund.

    “In Maryland, sample ballots misidentifying the party affiliations of Republican Gov. Robert Ehrlich and Senate candidate Michael Steele were handed out by people bused in from out of state, The Washington Post reported.

    “In Virginia, election officials contacted the FBI over complaints of voter intimidation. In some states, long lines formed, prompting appeals to judges to keep polls open longer.”

    Quoted under Fair Use; for complete story and/or copyright info see http://tinyurl.com/yghvd2

  22. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 6:21 pm

    “THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

    “States reporting voter intimidation efforts and dirty tricks on Election Day:

    “VIRGINIA

    “In a neck-and-race Senate race between Republican George Allen and Democrat Jim Webb, the FBI was probing reports of phone calls apparently encouraging voters to stay home on Election Day or face criminal charges. Other calls directed voters to the wrong polling place. …

    “ARIZONA

    “In Arizona, three men, one of them armed, stopped Hispanic voters and questioned them outside a Tucson polling place, according to voting monitors for the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund.

    “MARYLAND

    “Sample ballots suggesting Republican Gov. Robert L. Ehrlich and Senate candidate Michael Steele were Democrats were handed out by people bused in from out of state. Democrats outnumber Republicans in Maryland by nearly 2-to-1.

    “OHIO

    “A federal judge in Cleveland ordered 16 Cuyahoga County polling locations stay open 90 minutes past the scheduled 7:30 p.m. close because of delays caused by voting machine problems and lines that were an hour long.”

    http://tinyurl.com/tp2vp

  23. Dylan Carlson spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 6:23 pm

    Did you notice that gas prices went up today? hmmmm….

  24. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 6:27 pm

    “N.H. makes GOP stop some automated calls

    “By KATHARINE WEBSTER
    “ASSOCIATED PRESS WRITER

    “CONCORD, N.H. — A Republican organization agreed to stop making automated phone calls to New Hampshire residents on the federal do-not-call list. But the Democrats said Monday that the calls still violate federal rules.

    “The National Republican Congressional Committee agreed on Sunday to stop calling homes on the registry after a citizen complained to the state attorney general. Under New Hampshire law, political campaigns can contact people on the do-not-call list, but cannot use automated recordings.

    “The calls criticize Democratic congressional challenger Paul Hodes, who is locked in a tight race against Republican Rep. Charles Bass … a spokesman for Hodes said the calls also violate a Federal Communications Commission rule that says automated calls must identify their source at the beginning of the message. …

    “The NRCC is using ‘robo calls’ in at least 53 competitive House races nationwide. …

    “‘This is the same kind of dirty tricks we’ve seen up here in the last couple of election cycles,’ Hodes spokesman Reid Cherlin said. In May, a former Republican National Committee official, James Tobin, was sentenced to 10 months behind bars for his role in the jamming of New Hampshire Democrats’ telephones on Election Day 2002. He was the third person sent to prison in the case.”

    Quoted under Fair Use; for complete story and/or copyright info see http://tinyurl.com/yl4aby

  25. ManofTruth spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 6:32 pm

    nice visual pun !

  26. vancouver sucks spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 6:58 pm

    Hey long timers:

    How come the right winger trolls always have a long list of pornographic sites at their fingertips?
    Do you think there is a correlation between the discovery of sexual enhancement drugs and the right wing becoming so destructively vitriolic?
    Is there a connection between the vitriol and impotence?

    Just wondering.

  27. The Socialist spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 7:00 pm

    ELECTION 2006

    Dems complete election sweep of Congress
    WASHINGTON — Democrats completed an improbable double-barreled election sweep of Congress on Wednesday, taking control of the Senate with a victory in Virginia as they padded their day-old majority in the House.
    Update · 6:32 p.m.

    http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/

  28. The Socialist spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 7:01 pm

    Burner narrows gap as King County results are announced
    Political newcomer Darcy Burner, the Democrats’ only remaining hope of gaining a congressional seat in Washington state, closed in slightly on Republican U.S. Rep. Dave Reichert as new results were announced Wednesday. The race remained too close to call.
    Update · 6:41 p.m.

    http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/

  29. dpk spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 7:04 pm

    (November 08, 2006 — 09:48 PM EST // link)
    100% of precincts in King County reporting, Darcy Burner is up by about a thousand votes over Rep. Reichert (R) in WA-8.

    http://www.metrokc.gov/electio.....sPage4.htm

  30. K spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 7:07 pm

    Much as I’d like to believe that’s it, dpk, you also need to count the votes from Pierce Co in WA-8.

  31. The Socialist spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 7:08 pm

    CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT NO. 8

    Ballots Cast/Registered Voters: 126040 / 316777 39.79%

    Poll Precincts Counted/Total Poll Precincts: 745
    / 745 100.00%

    United States Representative Congressional District No. 8

    Darcy Burner DEM 62516 50.31%

    Dave Reichert REP 61595 49.56%

    Write-in 161 0.13%

  32. Anonymous spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 7:08 pm

    Goldy —

    When the excitement subsides, maybe you can work on the blog to figure out how to screen out the spammers.

  33. christmasghost spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 7:28 pm

    kids…are you ignoring your buddy “the socialist” again? come on…that’s not nice and we all know that you libs are really cozy with socialists so why snub him in public, hmmmmmmmmm?

  34. proud to be an Ass spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 7:33 pm

    christmasghost, why shouldn’t we be “cozy” with socialists? Wingnuts are cozy with nazis, the KKK, and other eliminationists.

    Your point is, well, pointless, and it can only be hoped that your kind are consigned to politcal irrelevancy. Enjoy the holiday season.

    Regards,

  35. busdrivermike spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 7:39 pm

    Since the first vote count in the 8th district, Reichart has held a 2700 vote lead. According to statistical theory, that is fishy. If reichart wins by 2700, we better check the trail of that smell.

  36. christmasghost spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 7:39 pm

    ass…my kind?
    and just what kind is that? do you mean a person that owns a company that employs people at a very good wage? or the person that spent her own money and blood, sweat and tears to save a wetland? how about the person that does wildlife rescue?
    that person? you want that person to go away?
    let me guess…you are a seattle parasite that talks big but does nothing. except for yourself…..am i warm yet?

  37. The Socialist spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 7:44 pm

    39#

    Thanks

    I think

  38. The Socialist spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 7:47 pm

    are you a liberal christmasghost?

    you know Socialist were kind of the origanel liberals

  39. Don Joe spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 7:49 pm

    You know, Ghost, for someone who spends a lot of time griping about other people expressing unconstructive thoughts, you sure seem to not engage in much discussion that has any kind of constructive aim.

  40. The Socialist spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 7:51 pm

    Early American Marxism

    A rich archive of works about the early history of Marxism in the United States of America, and the documents of the various Marxist groups and founders of the union movement, 1864-1930.

    see we helped found the union moments in the U.S.A.

  41. The Socialist spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 7:57 pm

    Socialism was born out of the extreme operation of the industrial revolution , of child labor and working people all most to death for barely enough to live on. You can still see this process going on in china and India and other countries we have allowed our capitalist to exploit. and don’t worry if the capitalist have there way it will be coming back to America really soon.

  42. For the Clueless spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 8:04 pm

    ghost, what are you still doing here? We know your posting history. You’ve earned zilch regard from anyone here. You name call. You hang out at (un)SP. Shall we dig up some choice quotes?

    You’re environmentally conscious and active. Big deal! You hate Washington State so what are you doing here?

    That Hollywood liberal DemocratRepublican Schwarzenegger was re-elected. Celebrate.

    Get on with your life. We’ll be fine.

  43. For the Clueless spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 8:05 pm

    Goldy’s two favorite people in the whole world.

    Like attracts like.

  44. The Socialist spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 8:10 pm

    oh she’s from Californei that explains it

    (rolling eye’s)

  45. Don Joe spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 8:25 pm

    Clueless, I think the Ghost’s most interesting reaction is the seeming outrage at the backlash of some Democrats directed toward Republicans after decades of being demonized by Republicans. I detect a distinct inability, or at least significantly impaired ability, to stand in someone else’s shoes. At times, I wonder if this kind of self-absorbsion isn’t a fairly common phenomenon amongst the right-wing.

  46. For the Clueless spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 8:43 pm

    Yes Don Joe, I agree. I think that self-absorption and that tendency to demonize is at its core narcissistic and is quite common among the right.

    Look at Stefan Sharansky. He takes everything personally. He keeps a lid on it to some extent in public but on his blog anything goes. It’s sad.

  47. Frank spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 9:03 pm

    Um…. Sad as it is… you’re not looking at TOTALS on the Burner race above…. you are only looking at King County totals…

    The Totals, as of tonight are:

    Darcy Burner
    Democrat 74,861 49.1027%
    Dave Reichert
    Republican 77,597 50.8973%

    Wish it was better news…

  48. Don Joe spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 9:27 pm

    Bummer about Burner, but that’s just so damn close for a district that had been written off as a safe Republican district that has never sent a Democrat to Congress.

    The good news is that Reichert’s wings are pretty much clipped by the rest of the Democrat landslide, and we still get to make Reichert jokes for the next two years.

  49. Frank spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 9:35 pm

    Amen.

    This district has NEVER elected a Gooper… yet we get closer every time… the tide is turning!

    I am SOOOO proud of the campaign that Darcy has run here… she represents what is GOOD about the Eastside.

    Reichert on the other hand… represents the redneck, pierce county mullet heads.

    Sigh.

  50. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 9:45 pm

    31

    Do you think there is a correlation between the discovery of sexual enhancement drugs and the right wing becoming so destructively vitriolic? Commentby vancouver sucks— 11/8/06@ 6:58 pm

    Yeah.

  51. harry poon spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 9:56 pm

    re 41; your such a poor little victim. But I don’t believe a word you say.

    You need a good spanking! That will get your juices flowing. I’ll do it. I’ll leave red hand marks on your bottom and you’ll be telling me,”Daddy, I’ve been a bad wittle girl….”

    Can you save some of that wetland for me?

  52. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 10:04 pm

    51

    Look at Stefan Sharansky … on his blog anything goes. Commentby For the Clueless— 11/8/06@ 8:43 pm

    Well that’s certainly true! Just today a poster on Stefan’s sucky little blog suggested “we need” another terrorist attack against the U.S. as an antidote to people voting for Democrats. Sick. And Stefan the self-described patriot won’t even censor it.

  53. Marcy, I mean Darcy spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 10:06 pm

    I am so relieved! I thought there for a minute that I might have to actually stay in a job for two years! Can you imagine?

    The voters in the 8th aren’t very bright, as pointed out on this blog. I bet most of them didn’t go to Harvard, like I did. I even bet most of them didn’t work for Microsoft!

  54. harry poon spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 10:09 pm

    The media is treating Pelosi as if she’s the de-facto president. What a relief we’ve got these clowns caged.

    The emperor not only has no clothes , he has no brain.

  55. harry poon spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 10:10 pm

    When will it sink in, Righties? You are so OVER.

  56. harry poon spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 10:15 pm

    Bush’s Texas accent gets more pronounced the more desperate he gets. It’s really amusing to see him still strutting around like he’s large and in charge.

    You’ll not see that clown deferred to any longer. I’m glsd we’ve got Reichert to hector and wear down.

    “Dig for the dirt on Republicans. And if you can’t find it, keep looking. I’ve never known one that wasn’t tainted.” Rahm Emmanuel

  57. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 10:16 pm

    65

    When the neocons stole power I never imagined they would drown themselves in their own slime so soon. I thought it would take at least 10 years.

  58. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 10:26 pm

    I want to remind everyone, especially our wingnut friends, this is not the Democrats’ ultimate victory but only the beginning. For the next 2 years, Democrats will pass remedial legislation on a broad array of problems — then watch Bush veto all of it, setting up his party for a crushing repudiation in 2008 that will make 2006 look like child’s play.

  59. Truth2006 spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 10:39 pm

    Now here is a word from Ann Coulter:

    History was made this week! For the first time in four election cycles, Democrats are not attacking the Diebold Corp. the day after the election, accusing it of rigging its voting machines. I guess Diebold has finally been vindicated.

    So the left won the House and also Nicaragua. They’ve had a good week. At least they don’t have their finger on the atom bomb yet.

    Democrats support surrender in Iraq, higher taxes and the impeachment of President Bush. They just won an election by pretending to be against all three.

    Jon Tester, Bob Casey Jr., Heath Shuler, possibly Jim Webb — I’ve never seen so much raw testosterone in my life. The smell of sweaty jockstraps from the “new Democrats” is overwhelming.

    Having predicted this paltry Democrat win, my next prediction is how long it will take all these new “gun totin’ Democrats” to be fitted for leotards.

    Now that they’ve won their elections and don’t have to deal with the hicks anymore, Tester can cut lose the infernal buzz cut, Casey can start taking “Emily’s List” money, and Webb can go back to writing more incestuously homoerotic fiction … and just in time for Christmas!

    But according to the media, this week’s election results are a mandate for pulling out of Iraq (except in Connecticut where pro-war Joe Lieberman walloped anti-war “Ned the Red” Lamont).

    In fact, if the Democrats’ pathetic gains in a sixth-year election are a statement about the war in Iraq, Americans must love the war! As Roll Call put it back when Clinton was president: “Simply put, the party controlling the White House nearly always loses House seats in midterm elections” — especially in the sixth year.

    In Franklin D. Roosevelt’s sixth year in 1938, Democrats lost 71 seats in the House and six in the Senate.

    In Dwight Eisenhower’s sixth year in 1958, Republicans lost 47 House seats, 13 in the Senate.

    In John F. Kennedy/Lyndon Johnson’s sixth year, Democrats lost 47 seats in the House and three in the Senate.

    In Richard Nixon/Gerald Ford’s sixth year in office in 1974, Republicans lost 43 House seats and three Senate seats.

    Even America’s greatest president, Ronald Reagan, lost five House seats and eight Senate seats in his sixth year in office.

    But in the middle of what the media tell us is a massively unpopular war, the Democrats picked up about 30 House seats and five to six Senate seats in a sixth-year election, with lots of seats still too close to call. Only for half-brights with absolutely no concept of yesterday is this a “tsunami” — as MSNBC calls it — rather than the death throes of a dying party…

  60. Truth spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 10:53 pm

    Are you open-minded? Good. Then go to abort73.com and educate yourself. Especially see section 1A on the left of the homepage and click through. But only if you’re open-minded and interested in being informed.

  61. Don Joe spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 10:57 pm

    Thank you, truthless, for showing us that the Coultergeist is willing to cling to her delusions through thick and thin. But, perhaps you can tell us, why did she leave out Clinton’s sixth year mid-term?

    Facts, drunks and lamp-posts again.

  62. Don Joe spews:

    Wednesday, 11/8/06 at 11:00 pm

    I have to say that I didn’t learn a thing from about73.com that I didn’t already know. What’s your point? That abortion is horrible? Agreed. Can we move on from that, and to the next question?

  63. Daddy Love spews:

    Thursday, 11/9/06 at 5:43 am

    A few days ago Bush was saying “Elect the Democrats, and the terrorists win.”

    I think we’d better show him who REALLY won.

  64. Another TJ spews:

    Thursday, 11/9/06 at 6:09 am

    But according to the media, this week’s election results are a mandate for pulling out of Iraq (except in Connecticut where pro-war Joe Lieberman walloped anti-war “Ned the Red” Lamont).

    Lieberman won because he changed his position on Iraq. Now he’s for getting out, but thanks for not paying attention.

    I can’t say I’m surprised, though. It’s well-known that non-voters are less informed than voters, and Coulter can’t vote.

  65. jaybo spews:

    Thursday, 11/9/06 at 6:13 am

    One day after Republicans lost their majority in the U.S. House and Senate, a question: Just how solid is the alliance among Democrat incumbents, moderates, newly-elected conservatives who used to be Republicans, and the fringe left?

    Northwest Progressive Institute (NPI) did something today on their website that may reveal rogue riptides in the ‘blue wave’ that swept through Tuesday’s elections:
     A blog entry was posted by NPI contributor ‘Stilwell’ which blasted Rahm Emanuel and Democrat leadership over private meetings, held pre-election, to discuss how the liberal wing of the party would not be allowed to dominate the agenda next year. ‘Stilwell’ was none-too-happy, as evidenced by these excerpts: “We knew before the election that the mindless centrists who brought us twelve years of hell would immediately try to throw progressives under the bus. And sure enough Rahm Emmanuel has already started that attempt… The centrists should cut the crap and accept progressives as full partners, or we keep fighting. Their call. Deep down they know they would still be the minority if it weren’t for progressives…”. Pretty provocative piece, so I linked to it.
     I went back to the post later, to see if any comments had been entered. One had, by ‘Possum’ of the Roadkill blog. Roadkill is a self-described moderate who has been equally tough on the GOP and Democrats. But Possum’s comment was a more of a warning: that the people who had actually been thrown under the bus were moderates who felt betrayed by the GOP for not living up to the promise of conservative government for the past 12 years, and that if Democrats thought they had a mandate to do anything they wanted or cater to the extreme left of the party, they too would be voted out of power. Stilwell’s response? “Screw you troll”. I couldn’t resist and left a comment: “Spoken like a true progressive”.
     A few hours later, I discovered the post had been pulled. At first I wasn’t sure if it was intentional or due to technical problems, but I had my answer later when I discovered the link was being re-directed to the main NPI blog page. It was obvious at the point an effort was underway by NPI to hide the Stilwell post.
     I couldn’t find the post in my browser cache, but I was able to take a snapshot of a Google search which shows the post was up long enough to be in the Google search index (click here if you want to see it).
    So here are the questions I have: Why did NPI take the post down? Did they get pressure from Democrat leadership? What is the plan by the netroots if they are shut out of power by the Democrats and are not accepted as “full partners”?
    I really wish I had cached or copied the full post because it represents why the new Democrat majority in congress is less of a “house of blue” and more of a “house of cards”. It’s a majority that was acquired by running conservative democrats against GOP incumbents, in part fueled by money raised from the extreme left and blogosphere. As slim as the majority is, it seems like it will be difficult to keep all factions happy and motivated and feeling like they have a place at the table.
    And, as an aside, how ironic that the netroots biggest and most expensive goal – replacing Joe Lieberman with Ned Lamont – failed. And not only for failing to get Lamont elected, but by making Lieberman, now a swing-voting independent in 49-49-2 split Senate, even more crucial to the Democrats plans to ride that ‘blue wave’.
    And if you know of other examples of netroot or progressive meltdowns towards Democrats, send them my way. There should be plenty.
    This entry was posted on Wednesday, November 8th, 2006 at 11:46 pm and is filed under Informational. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site.

  66. Another TJ spews:

    Thursday, 11/9/06 at 6:42 am

    Jaybo, did you honestly think that no one would check the NPI website? stillwell’s post is there.

    http://www.nwprogressive.org/w.....up-dc.html

  67. GBS spews:

    Thursday, 11/9/06 at 10:19 am

    Don’t you just hate it when the Culture of Corruption NECONS come on this blog and lie? I for one am sick of it.

    ChristmasGhost if you’re going to continue to come to HA and lie, whine, bitch, complain, and be unpatriotic, please stay away.

    “this tokenism about the minimum wage. why not actually raise it to a living wage? why? because then every company would do what i have already started to do….automate everything.

    honey…the sooner you figure out that i am always ahead of you, the better off you’ll be.

    Commentby christmasghost— 11/7/06@ 10:10 pm”

    “ass…my kind?
    and just what kind is that? do you mean a person that owns a company that employs people at a very good wage? or the person that spent her own money and blood, sweat and tears to save a wetland? how about the person that does wildlife rescue?
    that person? you want that person to go away?
    let me guess…you are a seattle parasite that talks big but does nothing. except for yourself…..am i warm yet?

    Commentby christmasghost— 11/8/06@ 7:39 pm”

    When will these fucking lying pieces of shit NEOCONS learn not to lie in writing? Don’t you know you get caught and shamed by us truth seeking LIBERALS?

    ChristmasGhost, if you keep lying like this and I’ll bitch slap you around on this blog until you forced to never come back just like I did to that lying piece of shit JCH.

    Get over it, you lost. Like President Clinton said, “when Americans vote in mass DEMOCRATS get elected.” Why do you think your fucking shitty party tries to suppress voter turn out? You lying scumbag. The Culture of Corruption runs deep in you immoral shit bags.

    So yes, if you’re going to continue to be unAmerican please do us all a favor and stay away.

  68. Mike Barer spews:

    Thursday, 11/9/06 at 10:20 am

    Good riddance, George Allen, in fact as far as I can see. Get all the Georges out of there

  69. jaybo spews:

    Thursday, 11/9/06 at 10:35 am

    Bad news for the kos kids and other progressives.

    Bill Clinton: Election No Move to the Left by U.S.
    In Ottawa Canada last night, former president Bill Clinton told a crowded forum that the election results were “a rejection of hard-headed, ideological politics in which people just make up their mind what the answer is and then they try to make the facts fit the answer,” according to a report in the Toronto Star.
    At a press conference before his address to a Jewish National Fund dinner, Clinton noted: “I think the American people prefer, first, a government that gets things done and is not mired in partisan gridlock.”
    Clinton also told reporters at the press conference that Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld’s resignation was “more or less inevitable” because even before the elections, notable military publications in the U.S. were asking for a new direction in Iraq.
    It provides an opportunity “to make a new beginning” on Iraq, Clinton added.

    Clinton told the dinner crowd that Americans, while more “culturally conservative” than Canadians, are at the core “a practical people,” adding, “It would be a big mistake to read the results as some big move to the left in America.”
    Confessing that he flew to Canada after staying up until 5 in the morning celebrating his wife Hillary’s re-election to the U.S. Senate, the former president concluded that U.S. voters clearly want a government that doesn’t stray too far to the right or too far to the left.
    “They thought that the government has gone too far to the right, is too unaccountable,” Clinton said. “So what they voted for was not necessarily to legitimize the whole Democratic agenda but to give us a chance to build the vital centre of America and to get things done and come together.”
    The mid-term results are marching orders to President Bush “for the country to get together,” Clinton concluded.
    The Star noted that former Liberal prime minister Jean Chrétien and his wife, Aline, were at the head table — while Conservatives were notably absent.

  70. Pale Rider spews:

    Thursday, 11/9/06 at 11:01 am

    Firing Rummy was simply a case of the old story about “I don’t have to outrun the bear, I just have to outrun you.”

    Bush hopes that throwing Rummy overboard will be enough of an offering to the Deep Blue Sea gods that the storm will subside.

    No chance, Georgie. The invasion if Iraq has been a fundamental piece of Neocon strategy at least as far back as the 1992 Defense Planning Guidance produced by Wolfowitz and Libbey for then-Defense Secretary Dick Cheney. This war is chained to your neck and there’s no getting away.

    BTW, here’s a promise to all the right-wingers out there who are asking for civility: I promise to be as civil to all you knuckle-dragging Fascist right-wing howlers as Ann Coulter and Bill O’Reilly are to Liberals. Stick that in your crack pipes.

  71. christmasghost spews:

    Thursday, 11/9/06 at 3:12 pm

    GBS….lying dear? i believe that is your forte, is it not?
    what? what i have done and have to say disturbs you because it ruins your whole little “shrewisms” about evil nasty republicans?
    oh bring it on baby……i would love to see you TRY to take me down. because you can’t.
    this is what happens when you generalize about a whole group of people you ACTUALLY know nothing about. you are just trash that has never ammounted to anything by your own fault [it’s called laziness] and are standing outside the candy store looking in….without anything to buy the candy with. should we feel sorry for you? no….you are a parasite…you have proven that too many times.
    ahhh…the base of the far left…..if you thought the far right was crazy these people really take the cake.
    and here’s a little thinker for you. you should try and remember that you really don’t KNOW who you are talking to….now do you?
    you give the term MEME a whole new meaning as in “what about ME , ME , ME , ME, ME ????????????????
    but your post is hysterical.
    first of all, what have you done? talked alot [bingo] and done nothing. walked around holding a sign soemeone else made? and still did nothing.talked about the environment but you don’t actually ever do anything, right?
    you hate big oil [and once again for that little lefty whine to mean anything…where is LITTLE oil?] and yet, here you are typing on it and burning it up as electricity.
    does your hypocrisy know no bounds??????
    you are nothing more than a gasbag phoney.
    and sweets…i didn’t lose anything. i wasn’t running for office. my god with your lack of grasp of the english language it’s a wonder you can cross the street………

  72. For the Clueless spews:

    Thursday, 11/9/06 at 5:53 pm

    jaybo and ghost: you lost, get over it.

    Progressives are going to do just fine over the coming years. Get used to it. We’re never going to forget what you liars have done to this country since 1994 or since 1980 with Raygun for that matter.

  73. christmasghost spews:

    Thursday, 11/9/06 at 9:02 pm

    clueless…raygun? ohmygod…you can’t even come up with YOUR OWN insults. good grief. are you a californian? no? then stop line stealing…it’s so tacky. but obviously you are a 1960’s retread…that line gave you away.
    “progressives” won’t be running the DNC or the house and senate…didn’t you get the memo honey? just ask bill or rahm…they already announced it far and wide…where were you?
    god…so it’s true!!!! AMAZING!
    you fools didn’t even realize you were being used only to be discarded as nuts. i am not worried about the future of this country. i am not worried about moderate democrats. you tools scared the crap out of me….but let’s face it, you are the ONLY ONES that didn’t realize you wouldn’t be running the dog and pony show.
    wow…this is really amazing….i am going to be laughing for a long, long time……….

  74. For the Clueless spews:

    Thursday, 11/9/06 at 9:19 pm

    ghost: you’re such a kook. Keep laughing. The laugh of a mad woman. Did we scare you? Oh sorry about that. NOT!

    The democratic caucus moved in a progressive direction. Maybe a modestly progressive direction but still the right direction.

    We’re going to keep working to move things in a positive, progressive direction. People like you are for the reactionary way. I’m ok with that. It reminds me of what I’m working against.

    I’m not worried about the future either.

    About Raygun: he was a bit of a sci-fi buff. He talked about an invasion from Mars with Gorbachev in Iceland. Look it up. It’s true. Hell he loved that a-bomb pumped space laser stuff.

    I bet you loved it too.

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