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Open Thread 6/23

by Carl Ballard — Monday, 6/23/14, 8:01 am

– Will the Supreme Court Ignore the Evidence? Facts vs. Beliefs in the Hobby Lobby Case

– The Spokesman-Review should probably do a better job of getting pictures.

– Let’s Build The Ballard Spur!

– I honestly couldn’t have told you who was the Seattle School District Superintendent, but now he might be leaving.

– My Real Change vendor keeps asking me to go to his church, but this is neat too.

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Coming Soon: Sunday Street View Contest

by Lee — Sunday, 6/22/14, 12:00 pm

Last week’s Bird’s Eye View Contest was won by ChefJoe. It was Pocatello, ID.

As I mentioned last week, that was the final Bird’s Eye Contest. Last week, it was announced that my company is being acquired by the HERE group within Nokia. Up until now, this weekly contest was never about promoting a particular technology or mapping service, but since I’ll soon be working for one, that’s the one I’ll be using. HERE’s maps do not have the aerial views that I’ve used for this contest up until now, but it does have a large set of street views.

So starting next week, I’m planning to set up this contest as a ‘Street View’ contest, where instead of an aerial view, you’ll have to guess the location of a street view from HERE.

One aspect of the previous contest I’d like to continue is the rotation between random locations, single-state random locations, and locations related to news events. I may need to think through some other aspects of how this’ll work, so please let me know your thoughts in the comments.

As always, thanks for playing and making this a fun contest every week.

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HA Bible Study: Deuteronomy 22:13-21

by Goldy — Sunday, 6/22/14, 6:00 am

Deuteronomy 22:13-21
If a man takes a wife and, after lying with her, dislikes her and slanders her and gives her a bad name, saying, “I married this woman, but when I approached her, I did not find proof of her virginity,” then the girl’s father and mother shall bring proof that she was a virgin to the town elders at the gate.  The girl’s father will say to the elders, “I gave my daughter in marriage to this man, but he dislikes her.  Now he has slandered her and said, ‘I did not find your daughter to be a virgin.’ But here is the proof of my daughter’s virginity.” Then her parents shall display the cloth before the elders of the town, 18 and the elders shall take the man and punish him. They shall fine him a hundred shekels of silver, and give them to the girl’s father, because this man has given an Israelite virgin a bad name. She shall continue to be his wife; he must not divorce her as long as he lives.

If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the girl’s virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death.

Discuss.

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Friday Night Multimedia Extravaganza!

by Darryl — Saturday, 6/21/14, 1:28 am

Rick Perry sets the record straight on homosexuality.

Matt Binder: The Conservative strategy to lower school gun violence…don’t count ’em.

Seattle comic Derek Sheen does San Francisco.

Gov. Walker’s Investigated for Crimes:

  • Ed: Walker’s troubles.
  • Chris Hayes: Gov. Scott Walker (R-WI) accused of ‘criminal fundraising scheme’
  • Ed and Pap: Gov. Scott Walker (R-WI) won’t do well in the Pokey.

Jimmy Dore on George Will’s idiotic comments.

Mental Floss: 29 weird museums.

Maddow: Why the GOP sucks.

Chris Hayes: ObamaCare is winning.

Sam Seder and Cliff Schecter: What does Cantor’s loss mean for Mitch McConnell?

Quagmire Accomplished:

  • Ann Telnaes: Dick Cheney forgets his own failed foreign policies.
  • Thom and Howard Dean on those who got Iraq wrong.
  • Young Turks: You will not BELIEVE what Glenn Beck says.
  • Sam Seder: Glenn Beck says that, ‘Liberals were right on Iraq.
  • Pap and RFK Jr.: How idiotic warhawks destroyed Iraq.
  • Stephen welcomes back The Iraq Pack
  • Sam Seder: Megyn Kelly calls out Darth Cheney
  • Ann Telnaes: Bush’s squawking chickenhawks:

  • Michael Brooks: Here comes the Clown Car
  • Mark Fiore: Create your own Caliphate!
  • WaPo: The Sunni-Shiite divide explained.
  • Thom and Pap: If it’s Sunday, meet the Chickenhawk Republicans…
  • WaPo: The politics of Iraq
  • Joy Reid: The Bushie murderers are slithering out of their snake holes
  • David Pakman: Even Pat Robertson says the Bush Administration sold us a bill of goods on Iraq.
  • Ari: What should the U.S. do about Bush’s mess?
  • Young Turks: Finally a reporter challenges Darth Cheney…Megyn?!?
  • Sam Seder: What’s really behind the success of ISIS in Iraq?
  • Michael Brooks: Reporter who lied about WMD now calls for media accountability on Iraq
  • Ann Telnaes: Tony Blair is barking up the wrong tree.
  • Sam Seder: Poor warhawks…U.S. and Iran share common interests in Iraq.

John Oliver chats with Stephen Hawking.

Some things Obama wants to protect.

Alex Wagner: Texas Gov. Rick Perry is intellectually unqualified to be President!

Jon can’t believe that Republicans are willfully blind on climate change.

Full Interview with Bill Gates on the Common Core (27:53).

Jimmy Dori interviews Bill O’Reilly.

Benghazi Derangement Syndrome:

  • David Pakman: Benghazi suspect says anti-Muslim video WAS a factor
  • Young Turks: Benghazi suspect caught…FAUX sees conspiracy
  • Sam Seder: FAUX suggests that Obama captured Benghazi attack ringleader to promote Hillary Clinton’s book.
  • David Pakman: Right Wing conspiracy theories about Benghazi capture EXPLODE
  • Sharpton: Heritage Foundation’s Benghazi conspiracy theory panel’s Islamophobic delusions
  • Conan: FAUX News interviews Hillary on her book Benghazi.
  • Young Turks: The guy who did Benghazi was freed by BUSH…silence from the Wingnuts
  • Benghazi conspiracy panel attacks Muslim student

Young Turks: Washington R******s looses their trademark protection.

PsychoSuperMom: How far to the right is right enough?:

Eric Cantor sets off Brian Schweitzer’s gaydar.

Richard Fowler: Another nail in the coffin for Texas women’s rights.

WaPo: Who is Josh Earnest?

White House: West Wing Week.

Stephen does Jay Carney.

Last week’s Friday Night Multimedia Extravaganza can be found here.

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Seems Responsible

by Carl Ballard — Friday, 6/20/14, 8:00 pm

Oh hey, Clint Didier is still running for office. This time it’s for Congress from Eastern Washington. And his campaign is giving away guns (Tri-City Herald link). Because sure.

Supporters must submit their names, ZIP codes and email addresses at Didier’s website to get updates from his campaign.

The winners of the guns — two pistols and a military-style rifle — will be randomly chosen. The contest allows people to civilly show support for the Second Amendment at a time when it is being threatened, Didier told the Herald.

“All these shootings are occurring at gun-free zones by individuals on some type of drugs with mental issues,” Didier said. “The guns are not pulling the trigger, the people are pulling the trigger. These gun-free zones are enticing people to go to these areas to do these terrible deeds.”

[…]

The prizes are two Ruger 2300 LC9 pistols and a DB-15 S rifle, including a 30-round clip with ammunition, Didier’s website said. He will give away the guns when he reaches 10,000 “likes” on his Facebook page or followers on Twitter, or July 4, whichever comes sooner.

The winners will have to follow all laws — including being of legal age and going through a background check — to claim their prizes, Didier said.

I had originally read Joel Connelley’s piece that doesn’t include reference to background checks, but when I asked the campaign about it, their spokesperson Larry Stickney* directed me to the longer piece on the Herald.

When I asked how a background check would weed out people on drugs or “with mental issues” he didn’t respond. It seems like the maybe not the greatest plan to give a potential murder weapon to some random stranger because they were nice enough to give you their name, email address, and zip code, even if they are able to pass a background check.

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$15 Minimum Wage Blowback: Seattle Hotels Sell for Record Price Despite Rising Wages

by Goldy — Friday, 6/20/14, 6:40 pm

Remember how opponents warned that a $15 minimum wage would surely cost the city thousands of jobs, hurting the exact same low-wage workers the ordinance was intended to help? Well, in Seattle’s booming hospitality industry, not so much:

The former Red Lion Hotel in downtown Seattle sold Thursday for $130.7 million, or nearly $410,000 a room, the highest price ever paid in the metro area, according to hotel experts.

But the record price for the 319-room hotel, now known as Motif Seattle, could quickly be surpassed by the pending sale of the 120-room Hotel 1000: Two groups are buying it for $63 million or about $525,000 a room, according to a report this week in The Wall Street Journal, which didn’t identify its sources.

“It is the highest price paid (per key) ever for a hotel in Washington state,” said Chris Burdett, senior vice president of CBRE Hotels in Seattle, which was not involved in the transaction.

The record-price deals for downtown Seattle hotels are the latest good news for a surging hotel market that’s kicked off a wave of new construction. Downtown Seattle has roughly 12,000 hotel rooms; the construction of R.C. Hedreen’s mega-convention hotel and smaller hotels could add another 3,000 rooms to the inventory.

Wait. I thought the $15 minimum wage was supposed to destroy capitalism as we know it. And yet in the immediate wake of its passage, investors continue to sink hundreds of millions of dollars into an industry that is one of the city’s largest employers of low-wage workers. I’m so confused!

And it’s not just here in Seattle. Just weeks after SeaTac voters passed their $15 minimum wage, Cedarbrook Lodge, one of the initiative’s most vocal opponents, announced a $16 million 67-room expansion. It’s like the industry’s mouth is saying one thing while its money is saying something entirely else. Weird.

I can only conclude one of two things. Either paying hotel housekeepers and other low-wage workers $15 an hour won’t squeeze all the profits out of Seattle’s labor-intensive hotel industry, or all the smart capitalists investing hundreds of millions of dollars into our soon-to-be-living-wage hotel industry are in fact incredibly stupid.

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Franchise Association’s ERISA Claim Just as Ridiculous as the Rest of Its Hilarious Lawsuit

by Goldy — Friday, 6/20/14, 11:26 am

The International Franchise Association’s hilarious lawsuit challenging the constitutionality of Seattle’s $15 minimum wage ordinance prompted instant ridicule from actual lawyers. “Crazy talk,” laughed labor and employment attorney Dmitri Iglitzin. “Frivolous,” scoffed University of Washington School of Law lecturer David Ziff. “Bonkers,” wrote Ian Millhiser, the Senior Constitutional Policy Analyst at the Center for American Progress Action Fund.

But while most of the suit’s claims were based on absurdly broad constitutional reaches (like alleging that impinging on a business’s profits would violate its First Amendment right to commercial speech), there was one claim that gave some attorneys pause—that the slower phase-in schedules for businesses providing health benefits were preempted by the federal Employee Retirement Income Security Act (ERISA). It’s not that the attorneys thought the claim had any merit, just that ERISA is an incredibly complex area of the law in which none of them had particular expertise.

Well in fact, there is plenty of relevant case law on this issue, and not surprisingly it turns out that the IFA’s ERISA claim is just as frivolous as the rest of its ridiculous suit. From Ironworkers Dist. Council of the Pacific Northwest v. Woodland Park Zoo Planning & Development:

We agree with the attorney general opinion that the prevailing wage statute does not require employers to establish benefit programs or make benefit contributions. The respondents concede, both in their briefing and at oral argument, that an employer can satisfy the statute by making cash payments in lieu of benefits. Because J.A. Jones ‘s preemption holding was based on the faulty premise that the statute requires employers to make ERISA contributions and to make them at a certain level, we do not adopt it. Rather, we follow other jurisdictions that hold that ERISA does not preempt prevailing wage statutes similar to Washington’s, which consider the amount of usual benefits in computing the total prevailing wage, but do not require that employers actually make such contributions. See Associated Builders & Contractors, Saginaw Valley Area Chapter v. Perry, 115 F.3d 386 (6th Cir.1997); Burgio & Campofelice, Inc. v. NYS Dep’t of Labor, 107 F.3d 1000 (2d Cir.1997); WSB Electric v. Curry, 88 F.3d 788 (9th Cir.1996), cert. denied, 519 U.S. 1109, 117 S.Ct. 945, 136 L.Ed.2d 834 (1997); Minnesota Chapter of Assoc. Builders & Contractors v. Minnesota Dep’t of Labor & Indus., 47 F.3d 975 (8th Cir.1995); Keystone Chapter, Assoc. Builders & Contractors v. Foley, 37 F.3d 945 (3d Cir.1994).

Each of these cases hold that prevailing wage statutes that consider the amount of usual benefits but do not require the establishment of benefit programs or benefit payments are not preempted by ERISA because they regulate wages, not benefits. Wages are a traditional subject of state concern and are not within ERISA’s coverage. Massachusetts v. Morash, 490 U.S. 107, 118, 109 S.Ct. 1668, 1674–75, 104 L.Ed.2d 98 (1989). Like the prevailing wage statutes in the above cases, Washington’s statute does not prescribe the type of benefit plans or amount of contributions. Nor does it impose any sort of administrative burden on ERISA plans. Most importantly, the employer can comply with the prevailing wage statute without any ERISA plan whatsoever. Accordingly, applying the Travelers analysis, we conclude that the prevailing wage statute does not “relate to” any employee benefit plans because Congress did not intend that ERISA control state wage regulation and the prevailing wage statute does not have an impermissible effect on ERISA plans.

That’s a lot of federal case law the Washington State Court of Appeals cites, and it all concludes the same thing: “Congress did not intend that ERISA control state wage regulation.” And while the above case deals with prevailing wage law rather than minimum wage law, the issues raised in the IFA suit are entirely analogous. IFA claims that the ordinance is preempted by ERISA because it “relates to” employee benefit plans, but the courts have repeatedly ruled that such wage statutes do not.

Minimum wage critics love to disparage “burger flippers” as unworthy of earning a livable wage, yet they have no qualms about paying attorneys $1,000 an hour to file a ridiculous lawsuit like this. Amazing.

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Open Thread 6/19

by Carl Ballard — Thursday, 6/19/14, 5:12 pm

– On Monday my computer was acting up, so we had a later in the day Open Thread, today I’m just acting up (ie, I didn’t prep enough earlier) and we have an afternoon Open Thread. Any preference if it’s morning or evening on Mondays and Thursdays?

– I don’t know if it’s sad or saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad that his polling firm is still trying to unskew the polls on Eric Cantor’s race.

– Women in the Workplace: Bryant Corner Café and Bakery

– One of my favorite things about the Internet is when people who don’t share my obsessions do something. This piece about how Fox News would cover The Marvel Universe is great even as a non-comics guy.

– Report: Obama Can Act to Reduce Inequality for Women, Minorities

– A lot of sports try to sell the economic benefits to a place rather than the cultural ones. And most of the time that’s bunk. If you care about the fact that the US Open is coming to the area next year, I’d think what it says about us is more interesting than the potential dollars. But Emmett tries to sort it out.

– We break it Obama owns it

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More Good Wishes from My New Fox Friend, Tom

by Goldy — Thursday, 6/19/14, 3:05 pm

How freaked out are the wingnuts at the prospect of gay-loving, pot-smoking, $15-minimum-wage-paying Sodoms and Gomorrahs like Seattle and San Francisco economically out-competing the gun-toting, free-market-loving regions of the country? Via email, my new friend Tom explains:

Looking at the election returns, few patriotic Americans remain on the Left Coast, and their relative numbers will be further reduced by the current influx of illegals occasioned by the feckless narcissist squatting in the Oval Office. Granted, the loss of even one human (by definition, this term excludes ‘progressives’) is to be grievously mourned, yet such would be more than offset by the social, financial, health and security advances inevitably following the extermination of the leftist scum and their fellow travelers. Damn shame there is no virus which specifically vectors those defectives with the survival-adverse gene mutation causing liberalism. Then again, perhaps Michael Savage is correct in his claim it is a mental disease and thus treatable. In either event, there is an immediate need for a cure if America is to survive.

Out of courtesy, I’ll keep Tom’s full name and email address to myself (along with the names of the online gun forums on which he frequently deals firearms). But that is some seriously fucked up shit.

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What Do Critics Fear Most About Seattle’s $15 Minimum Wage? That It Will Succeed!

by Goldy — Thursday, 6/19/14, 11:50 am

You know, what the headline says. Really.

No doubt there are local business owners who genuinely fear for their own profit margins, but nationally, this is an ideological conflict. And if the economies of cities like Seattle and San Francisco continue to thrive despite imposing the highest minimum wage in the nation, it would strike a substantial blow against free market dogma.

No, just because a $15 minimum wage works here in Seattle doesn’t mean it’s appropriate for Yakima. But this is about more than just the minimum wage. This about undermining the deregulatory, low-tax, supply-side orthodoxy that has guided US economic policy since the Reagan administration, and that has played a major role in creating the crisis of income inequality we face today.

It’s also about being proven right or wrong. And everybody hates to be proven wrong.

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If Philly Gets It’s Own Space Needle, I’m Heading Home!*

by Goldy — Thursday, 6/19/14, 8:37 am

Skyspire

SOURCE: US THRILLRIDES

Finally, I can move back to Philadelphia!

PHL Local Gaming — one of the five contenders for that ever elusive casino license in Philadelphia — has announced a potential new feature for its LoSo Entertainment Center: a 615-foot-tall Skyspire with rooftop restaurant and observation deck, both of which would be reached by gondola. The tower would be designed to look much like Seattle’s Space Needle, though it would be 10 feet taller (take that, Seattle!).

Except for the casino part, it sounds great.* Though personally, rather than the Skyspire, I would opt for the Polercoaster, which instead of those stupid gondolas would wrap the tower with a 615-foot vertical roller coaster!

* Note: Not really.

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Welcome, Fox News Wingnuts!

by Goldy — Wednesday, 6/18/14, 11:44 pm

I did an interview with Fox News about Seattle’s $15 an hour minimum wage, which of course is bringing a lot of new readers to HA. For example, Tom, who via email, goes out of his way to establish himself as an Old Testament Christian. Genesis 18-19, to be exact.

Here’s hoping the next earthquake, or better yet, wild fire, will wipe out everything within 50 miles of the existing coast …. If it should, I promise to celebrate even more joyfully than I did the death of the Chappaquiddick swim champ – toasting it with a grin on my face, a song in my heart and an appropriately delightful aged single malt I can savor in my memory for years as I recall the pleasure taken in the demise of the vile scum infesting this Republic.

Not sure what you have against the Olympic Peninsula, but hey, thanks for the constructive criticism, Tom!

As for the rest of my new Fox friends, please feel free to use this post as an open thread in which to wish death and/or destruction on us freedom-hating liberals.

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What To Cut

by Carl Ballard — Wednesday, 6/18/14, 5:16 pm

In a press release about the budget forecast there’s, a paragraph about McCleary where Representative Terry Nealey says:

“The demands by the state Supreme Court for the Legislature to meet educational funding requirements under the McCleary decision will likely lead for new calls during the 2015 session to raise taxes. That would be devastating to our state’s economy. The correct course of action is to fund education first within the budget and let the economy heal by resisting job-killing tax increases. If we stay the course, Washington’s citizens will have more job opportunities, our state will reap the benefits of higher revenue, and we will be able to meet our constitutional requirements as it relates to education.”

This is a broader press release about how the revenue forecast increased $157 million for the biennium. But we’re billions behind. As long as 2 billion or so is more than 157 million, we’re not just going to be able to grow out of our problems.

But I will meet Rep Nealy part of the way: Yes raising taxes can have a deleterious effect on the economy. That’s true. But what the GOP never acknowledges is that so does cutting government services. So I would like to hear how the state could cut the difference between what grew or what the state can expect to grow and what’s needed to fulfill the McCleary obligations. Because suddenly making massive cuts to social services will also affect the economy in a negative way.

Hell, even the largely mythical wringing efficiencies from the government or cuts to wages and pensions would hurt the economy as it would mean less money being pumped into the economy. Government spending drives the economy in its way. Obviously, when we have a balanced budget, those efficiencies are generally balanced out by the taxes that have to be paid to fund them. But that’s the point: we’re going to have to look at spending and at taxes if we want to fix McCleary without doing too much damage to the economy. And since we’ve been mostly cutting in the past years, it may be time for more taxes.

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He’s Alive Today Because He Didn’t Have a Gun

by Goldy — Wednesday, 6/18/14, 9:31 am

Yet another reminder that for the vast majority of Americans, guns don’t make you safer:

JIM MCMAHON would leave home and forget how to get back.

Sometimes, he would stay in his room and lie on his back in the dark because the pain in his head was so excruciating. At his darkest moments a few years ago, when it was just about too much to handle, the former Chicago Bears quarterback thought about killing himself.

“I am glad I don’t have any weapons in my house or else I am pretty sure I wouldn’t be here,” McMahon said. “It got to be that bad.”

I know, I know… the gun nuts will scream in the threads that I want the guvmint to take away their guns. That’s not the point of these posts at all. What I want is to educate Americans that guns don’t make you safer. Especially handguns. They just don’t.

If you’re a hunter or a sportsman then you need a gun. I’ve got no problem with that. Hunting is at least as moral as factory farming (assuming you intend to eat your kill), and I know from personal experience that target shooting can be loads of fun. But if you’re just some average Jane or Joe purchasing a handgun for personal protection, you’re making a big mistake. Having a handgun in the house dramatically increases the risk of you or a loved one being a shooting victim. Men in particular are much more likely to shoot themselves than an intruder.

The best way to reduce gun violence is to reduce easy access to guns—particularly handguns. And the best way to do that is to change Americans’ attitudes towards guns so that we’re less likely to keep one lying around the house.

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Open Thread 6/17

by Carl Ballard — Tuesday, 6/17/14, 5:22 pm

– Where the Growth is Happening

– For a town that is really proud of being progressive and pro-lady and pro-gay and pro-brown-people and pro-equality, we have still got some truly rotten, stinking, embarrassing, hateful slop festering just barely under the surface. And it’s down to all of us to talk about it and act on it.

– I’m just going to say it: Boo Canada.

– This WaPo piece on a Heritage Foundation panel hating Muslims has been going around, but I’d be remiss if I didn’t point to it.

– Summer Meltdown

– It almost sounds crazy to write this, but 45 years ago today, the Seattle City Council tried to destroy the Pike Place Market.

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