So if “everything is on the table” at all levels because everything is completely SNAFU, budget-wise, are we still going to stupidly spend tons of money arresting and locking up pot smokers?
In related, Atrios points out ending prohibition is the current number two issue at change.gov.
UPDATE [Lee]: Jon, the answer is no for the state legislators who introduced this bill today.
Roger Rabbit spews:
If cuts must be made in law enforcement, it makes sense to let pot smokers out of jail to keep cops on the street.
Cascadian spews:
I think the title of this post explains why marijuana prohibition is never going to end. What should be a sensible and serious policy proposal just makes people think of annoying pot smokers.
YLB spews:
How many of our resident trolls (that means you Stupes) are touching themselves over the exploits of Joe the Plumber in Israel?
GBS spews:
Not only will we save money by not wasting our financial resources on cops, courts, and prisons, we’ll be getting a multi billion dollar windfall from taxing marijuana just like alcohol and tabacco.
We can apply all the tax to paying off the Reagan Republican created national debt.
Pot smokers — light up and save America!!
Puddybud spews:
Rerun@3: Joe is in Israel? Wow. Whodathunk? Yes, I touched myself as I scratched my head over your craziness.
Well I wasn’t paying attention cuz this Tim the Treasury Guy not paying his taxes and his illegal help was my reading. Linda Chavez got trashed over the illegal help and the libtard MSM is giving Tim the Treasury Guy a pass.
As they say – The MSM; by liberals for liberals
Puddybud spews:
GBS: Hanging with re-run@3 again? We’ve been down this road before. Congress passes the budget GBS.
Puddybud spews:
#5 continued re-run@3.
Tim the Treasury guy is sposed to be a perfessional money guy. Well I spose a perfessional money guy can’t be expected to know how to properly file dem taxes. I guess he ain’t gots no deep thoughts man. Butt, I’m sure he must is SO grateful to have Obama bring the ‘tax error’ to his attention.
Troll spews:
Sad news. The actor who played Longshanks in Braveheart has died. I like that one scene where he walks that gay liberal to the castle window, then pushes him to his death.
YLB spews:
Here’s a little link to balm your ignorance Stupes.
http://www.usnews.com/blogs/ro.....clown.html
Joe the clown.. LOL.. Like attracts like.
Now here comes the right wing bullshit about how U.S. News is crawling with “donks”. The idiocy of the right wing never ends.
YLB spews:
Hey Stupes,
Here’s a blast from the past:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,79450,00.html
Were you scared back then Stupes? Scared but so happy you voted for your chimpanzee? Not even the radical feminists could scare you this much?
7 days away.. 7 more days…
Politically Incorrect spews:
7 more days and what? Do you really think the Milk Chocolate Messiah is going to change much?
Legalize pot and let people run their own private lives.
Get out of the war between the Jews and Muslims.
Puddybud spews:
wow re-run@10 you shocked and amazed me with dem deeeeeeeep thoughts.
YLB spews:
11 – Any change is better than more of the same which would have been with McSame.
More of the worst even if the old guy kicked and the power-crazed Diva took the throne.
Puddybud spews:
re-run@9:
… … … … … …… … … … … …… … … … … …… … … … … … …
http://www.usnews.com/blogs
says it all fool!
busdrivermike spews:
Look at Mr. Clever Closet Klanboy at #11…does not have enough balls to write “nigger”, so he has to go with “milk chocolate messiah”.
It must be torture for all these Republicans to be witty these days. By torture, I mean the mental kind, not the medieval kind Republicans love so much.
YLB spews:
13 – Thanks for the complement Stupes. Here’s another thought for you:
You’re an idiot and a fool.
But keep posting those pathetic little jabs. None of them make a lick of sense.
So ignored!
YLB spews:
14 – What no fusillade about “donk” conspiracies?
I’m disappointed.
You’re more entertaining when you’re off your meds.
Steve spews:
Say, Puddy, I was continuing our conversation on the “corruption” thread.
Steve spews:
@8 Hey Troll, those weren’t gay libs, they were self-loathing Republicans. Big difference.
Michael spews:
Take a look at #3
The best way to stop abortions and cut spending on welfare: don’t have an unplanned pregnancy.
Puddybud spews:
Here’s some really deeeeeep thoughts from re-run@16’s hero Hugo Chavez.
Puddybud spews:
Here are more deeeeeeep thoughts:
Wasn’t Carol Browner a member of the Commission for a Sustainable World Society, a known socialist group? Oh well another Clinton retread, was at the EPA. So much for “change“.
Hey headless, you know all about these crappy groups. Tell us all about it.
Puddybud spews:
And even more deeeeeeeep thoughts. Last week Alan Neuharth, ex CEO of Gannett which publishes UselessEssayToday (USAToday re-run), stated the press didn’t go after GWB enough. Well Alan, I think they did and the paper you know and love is paying the price for it’s libtardness.
Puddybud spews:
Just some more deeeeeeeeep thoughts.
Bush’s 2004 Inauguration cost around $40 Mill. The press railed and railed over the cost. Obama’s 2008 Inauguration is at $45 Mill and climbing.
Nary a peep from the libtard MSM over all that wasted money.
The Libtard MSM; for liberals, by liberals.
correctnotright spews:
@23: Good essay- they gave that idiot
Bush a pass for way too long. He leaves this country in much worse shape then when the Supreme court gave him the job over the objections of the American people.
Just listening to him try to excuse his pathetic administration was like chalk on a blackboard. The poor sot doesn’t even know why he is reviled. He doesn’t even understand the economic mess he has caused or the fact that the world now hates us because of him and his unnecessary war. He is so deliberately clueless it is almost pathological. It almost seems if his alcohol addled brain has produced a person so oblivious to the outside world or so willfully ignorant that he can’t even figure out where he went wrong. Certainly, he is very close to a having a major psychological disorder…
Puddybud spews:
Wow, deeeep thoughts from someone without a real job.
Gee John, why don’t we send a Gitmo hotel occupant your way, to your doorstep and see if he don’t try and waste you?
correctnotright spews:
@24: By definition your thoughts are almost NEVER deep. but try this one on:
Bush inauguration attendance: About 300K
Obama: About 2 million
’nuff said, with almost 10X the people, the cost is barely more.
Why is it so few people came to the Bush inauguration? Could it be that people were already tired of him?
Puddybud spews:
Now this took really deep thought.
I realize simpletons like re-run may not get it.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@8 We know you’re a monarchist at heart, Troll. All you fucking Tories are monarchists, and you won’t be happy until you’ve converted the presidency into a throne and put Jeb on it.
correctnotright spews:
@26: Thanks for another good link. That was an excellent article. John Cusack is a good writer and undertands the issues.
It is time to restore the trust in America that has been broken by the lies, the torture, Abu Ghraib, illegal wiretapping and the rest of the Bush lawbreaking.
Maybe Puddy should get a taste of how Bush would handle the constitution – say something bad about Obama and have it picked up on illegal surveillance, then label Puddy a combatant terrorist (despite his presumably american citizenship). Ship him off to Gitmo and deny him a trial or legal rights.
How would you like them apples?
Puddybud spews:
Ummm incorrectnottobright: The real cost with security is estimated to be 110 Mill. Butt, then again you don’t read much. You take Kos at face value. Bush’s costs weren’t half that much fool. And, much of Bush’s costs were covered by private donations. More than Obama the Messiah’s so far.
Don’t let facts hit you in the ass fool.
Puddybud spews:
Just shows how incorrectnottobright isn’t too well read. Embarrassing dude!
Roger Rabbit spews:
@22 Yeah, we really like the way you fascists ran the EPA, pudignorantz! — Not!! The Republican way of managing the environment is the polluter gets a free pass to pollute and the taxpayer pays to clean it up.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@24 YOU are complaining about WASTING money?!! Haw!!! That’s a good one!!!
Puddybud spews:
Hey incorrectnottobright, here’s a deep thought, did you bid yet?
correctnotright spews:
@32: Actually, the cost of security as estimated by the WASHINGTON TIMES article that you linked to…was:
Maybe you can’t read your own link – embarassing….
And my argument still holds – ten times the people means more security and more cost. Thanks for proving my point.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@31 Nope, the cost of having Bush take (and break) that oath ultimately hit us all. And do you really believe Bush’s “private donors” didn’t pass the cost of their donations through to the general public?
Roger Rabbit spews:
Who were Bush’s donors, puddy? California ratepayers via Ken Lay?
Puddybud spews:
No incorrectnotbright: I’m not embarassed bud. I used a libtard newspaper because your cuzin re-run calls the WA Times right-wing bullshit. So I used a British left-wing rag.
Too bad you don’t follow events here on HA.
Do you live in a vacuum incorrectnotbright? Must be.
The Libtard MSM; for liberals, by liberals.
Puddybud spews:
Pelletizer, you dumb bunny. California rate payers were doing that during Gray-Out Davis’ administration. You need a virtual oxygen bottle as your mind is becummin mushier each day.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@40 Oh, so now it’s the Democrats’ fault that California ratepayers were gouged by Enron’s market-riggers? Puddy, when will you finally realize that your lame defense of Republican kleptocracy has noooooooo credibility … ?
Puddybud spews:
Pelletizer: I you read the SEC report…
” They accomplished this at the close of the first quarter of 2001 through a reorganization designed to conceal the magnitude of EES’ business failure, which was known to Lay as early as January 2001.” Now who became president January 20, 2001?
Think dumb bunny. Well maybe not.
headless lucy spews:
There’s an interesting article addressing this issue on Huffpo. Here’s a link for anyone interested.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....57807.html
headless lucy spews:
39. Puddybud spews:
“No incorrectnotbright: I’m not embarassed bud. I used a libtard newspaper because your cuzin re-run calls the WA Times right-wing bullshit.”
Here’s a link to a picture of the publisher – an American patriot?
I think not…
http://www.tparents.org/Moon-T.....061208.jpg
YLB spews:
LMAO!!!
The meds wore off!
YLB spews:
After the meds wore off, king B.S. passed the following gas:
The Daily Mail?
More horseshit from the self-appointed king of right wing bullshit at HA.org
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Mail
What a moron!
Politically Incorrect spews:
busdrivermike @ 15,
I like to use Milk Chocolate Messiah because it has to nice ring to it, and I invented the phrase. Obama is an empty suit. So fuck you.
YLB @ 13,
I voted for Ron Paul, not McCain, so fuck you.
Oh yeah, and for Roger:
“Roger Rabbit, does it feel good to be a lying ideologue? What does it feel like to be an blind and arrogant liar?”
I really like that one!
Puddybud spews:
re-run@46: LYAO? It’s you and your ilk who claim libtards have all the “traditional values”. Exactly what the Mail proscribes. And we all know how left bent Wiki is. Pelletizer seldom uses them anymore for his leftist insipid arguments. Butt, re-run keep up the great image as a moron. Your Daily Mail Wiki link solidified my message. It’s left of the Sun (Murdoch tabloid).
LMAO – fool!
Puddybud spews:
Since re-run didn’t like the Daily Mail being leftist enough for him…
Here is The Guardian, a real leftist rag.
“President Barack Obama’s inauguration next week is set to be the most expensive ever, predicted to reach over $150m (£102m). This dwarfs the $42.3m spent on George Bush’s inauguration in 2005 and the $33m spent on Bill Clinton’s in 1993.”
It’s even more expensive in the really leftist rag. Thanks re-run for providing the impetus for the Guardian. Nuff SAID. I rest my case.
ROTFLMBBAO.
BTW re-run, you’re still the moronic idiot. Just accept what God gave you and run along re-run.
Puddybud spews:
I like to visit this site every now and then.
Here is a prediction you all can vote on.
Incorrectnottobright – stick with me and you’ll become educated in facts, not the warm man-made leftist kool-aid re-run injects in his coffee and drinks.
correctnotright spews:
@50: Stick with me and you will learn to think for yourself, analyze data, aceept all sources of data (not just the sad right wing propaganda you spout off about) and not parrot the right wing web sites.
Also, you will be able to look at the big picture to be able to put in context what a failure your hero Bush has been.
@47 Politically ignorant
I find the term milk-chocolate messiah offensive on a number of levels.
The only people constantly mouthing off about Obama as Messiah are the right wingnuts. I find Obama to be very pratical and a breath of fresh air after the ignorance, incompetence and stupidity of the Bush adminsitration.
As far as milk chocolate – how would you like to be described as rotten white chocolate?
Your hero Ron Paul is a non-entity and couldn’t get enough votes to be elected dog catcher. Your entire free market philosophy has been exposed as a total sham. The lack of regulation and government involvement that you advocate would put us into a great depression – and your types would love that.
Can you name any successful “free market” governments in the world? Get over your antiquated philosophy, the free market doesn’t exist and when it did Teddy Roosevelt and others decided it was detrimental because of trusts and monopolies.
YLB spews:
You’re a sick man Stupes. If things keep going as they are, next week you’ll be calling Limbaugh a lefty.
Or maybe you’re just plain freaking stupid.
LMAO!!! And the orders, always the orders. Too funny, the sick right wing.
YLB spews:
There’s a “free market” of right wing b.s. in Stupes’ empty skull.
And “teh crazy” has gained monopoly status.
Call in the trust-busters. Ooooops. The right wing don’t believe in that.
Poor Stupes.. Another free market bites the dust.
ArtFart spews:
51 We really have no idea what things might be like with a “free market”. The one we have has been bought and paid for for a long, long time…just like our government.
ArtFart spews:
I’ve been thinking about John McCain quite a bit lately. I don’t think he’s anywhere near as detestable as he ended up looking by campaigning under Karl Rove’s rules and allowing himself to get stuck with Spiro Agnew in a $5,000 skirt for a running mate.
In fact, I can’t help but wonder how much better off we’d be right now if he’d been President for the last eight years.
YLB spews:
55 – Better off? We’d get into wars. He was flat out gung ho for use of the military whereever and whenever. McSame was the neo-con’s original choice over Bush in 2000.
I’m sure the dynamic duo of Rumsfeld/Darth Cheney would have played a role in a McSame administration and brought all neo-crazies in. Whether McSame could stand up to them is another matter.
And he was all for Iraq. We’d get into that.
Maybe he would have gotten bin Laden and maybe we would have been OUT of Iraq by now.
Maybe McSame wouldn’t have ignored the August 2001 PDB – that would have been nice.
Maybe.
correctnotright spews:
@56: I kind of agree with ArtFart. McCain ran a despicable campaign that even HE was ashamed of. Despite the jingoism of McCain and his obvious egotism – I doubt McCain would have gone into Iraq. Even McCain would have pursued bin Laden and not given lip service to going after the perpetrators of 9/11 – like Bush. I also don’t think McCain would have hired the sycophantic cronies and fools that Bush did. On the other hand, the selection of the idiot Palin and the advisors from lobby-land that overpopul;ated his key staff, say that McCain lets his judgement be influenced by some pretty dumb advisors.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Miracle In The Hudson River
You know those safety briefings airline stewardesses give passengers before takeoff? How many millions or billions of times have passengers been told how to cushion themselves against a crash landing, and how to use life vests? Well, it’s not for nothing, and those instructions paid off BIG TIME today.
A U.S. Airways passenger jet headed for Seattle lost engine power on takeoff from LaGuardia and the pilots landed it in the frigid Hudson River this afternoon.
It appears everyone — everyone — has survived the water landing. Everyone got out before the plane sank. No one was lost in the river. Everyone — everyone — has been rescued and there appear to be no serious injuries.
That’s why the flight attendants have received this training and given passengers these safety briefings for all these years and decades. It really, really, really paid off today.
Politically Incorrect spews:
CNR said:
“I find the term milk-chocolate messiah offensive on a number of levels.”
You obviously have me confused with someone who gives a shit what you think.
I voted for Ron Paul because the Dems and Reps are different sides of the same coin. Neither party has had a decent candidate in decades and decades.
Politically Incorrect spews:
@58,
I heard it was a jet flying from NY to Charlotte, not Seattle.
ArtFart spews:
57 It’s a good question whether McCain would have gone into Iraq. That would have depended on whether he’d have been able to get into office without being completely beholden to the PNAC and Karl Rove. (The face that he wasn’t quite willing to kowtow to them in ’00 had a lot to do with Bush being the GOP nominee instead.) In any case, if he’d been Prez, he might have moved to nail bin Laden and his rabble and prevented 9/11 before it happened. Even if not, he’d have finished business first with al Queda and Afghanistan, and not done Iraq without a sufficiently large and adequately supplied force such as Powell advocated. If such had been the case, we could have done a better job of getting rid of Saddam and stabilizing the country instead of blowing it to bits because we had a lot of bombs and not enough soldiers.
YLB spews:
57 – Good point about the Palin pick.
correctnotright spews:
@59 You are right. I confused you with someone who actually might have something intelligent to say – but instead you are someone who prefers to act like a 2-year old and call someone inappropriate names and then feel proud of your yourself.
I hope you feel proud of your defecations too – because that is about the level of a two year old and about the level of your sorry discourse.
ArtFart spews:
57/62 Depends on whether you’re willing to believe the Palin pick was McCain’s call.
But….then again, if she wasn’t his choice, it says something about how much he’d have been able to run his own show had he been elected.
Puddybud, Hey it's the New Year... spews:
rerun@52: Can dispute the Guardian huh moron?
What a dufus!
Puddybud, Hey it's the New Year... spews:
Hey look they are calling Robert Redford a racist.
” Hollywood’s Sundance Kid is hurting poor people.
So say some East Coast ministers and conservative activists, who took to the streets in front of a downtown Salt Lake City theater on the eve of Robert Redford’s Sundance Film Festival to accuse the actor of holding down low-income Americans with his opposition to oil and gas drilling near national parks in Utah.
The protesters, led by the Congress of Racial Equality’s national spokesman Niger Innis, suggested Redford should “relinquish his wealth” and live like a poor person. They complained that the filmmaker’s anti-drilling stance could lead to higher energy prices for inner-city residents, forcing them to accept a lower standard of living. ”
This is great.
YLB spews:
65 – No. You mean DOOFUS that silly cur who imploded before the election and has been scarce ever since. All the crap he spewed here was shit-canned by reality. The poor right schmuck can’t face the music.
But not you. Apparently YOU ARE the shit-can. In your head goes right wing bullshit and no plunger in existence can unloose the blockage.
Chris Stefan spews:
@67
Yea wondering where the mutt was, he’s been scarce since the election.
But then the quality and quantity of right wing trolls has gone down since then.
I wouldn’t be supprised if the current batch are all sockpuppets of the same frustraited loner.