People keep asking me why Tim Eyman, known for his stupidly conceived, and even more stupidly-er written anti-tax initiatives, would file an initiative aimed at overturning the recently passed gay rights bill.
Hmm. Well, this could be a reason. And this. And I suppose, this, this, and this. You see, Timmy is an initiative whore, and any opportunity to get himself in the papers or in front of the cameras fellating our initiative process seems well worth his while.
Or on the radio, for that matter. Timmy’s scheduled to appear on the John Carlson Show today in the 4 pm hour (KVI-570), to explain to listeners exactly why we should all celebrate our God-given right to discriminate against gays and lesbians. But as it turns out, I’m a bit of whore myself, so I’m slotted to be on the show sometime after 4:15 to share a few words with Tim.
Tune in if you can bear it.
UPDATE: (4:41 pm)
Tim accused me of trying to monopolize the debate. Now that’s rich.
UPDATE, UPDATE: (4:47 pm)
Um… judging from the fact that two of the first three callers wanted to talk about something else, it looks like Tim may have a little trouble generating buzz behind this initiative.
Hey Goldy…
Ya’ wanna run for Senator??????
Please????????
Tell em we appreciate their honesty and that now that they’re open about the fact that they want to discriminate against people, we’ll use that against their side at the polls. Of course Timmy just wants to be first on this so he can get paid. What else is new?
Didn’t Timmy marry his teacher, LaTourneau style? Maybe there should be a law against that.
It’s interested that Timmy got involved in politics because of Ross Perot. Shows how far Timmy has fallen – Perot made a point of eschewing divisive social issues.
by Goldy, 01/30/2006, 3:00 PM
“You see, Timmy is an initiative whore, and any opportunity to get himself in the papers or in front of the cameras fellating our initiative process seems well worth his while.”
If Eyman is an initiative whore (and he is), then what kind of whore are you?
Did I mention Stefan used to eschew gay-baiting, too, until he went off the deep end?
Chicken Salad Sandwiches
2 cups leftover lean chicken (Note #1)
1/4 small or medium onion
2 large stalks of celery, with a few leaves
1/4 medium red bell pepper
1 small carrot, finely shredded
1 clove finely minced garlic (optional)
3 tablespoons sweet pickle relish
3/4 cups reduced-fat or fat-free mayonnaise
lettuce
tomato
whole wheat or rye bread
Chop onion, celery and red pepper in a food processor. Add chicken and process again briefly.
Scrape into a bowl. Add mayonnaise, garlic and pickle relish. Stir to combine.
Spread a slice of bread (Note #2) with a thin coat of mayonnaise on one side. Spread another slice thickly with chicken salad. Top with lettuce, thinly sliced tomato and the mayonnaised bread. Enjoy!
@ 4
Didn’t your read it? Goldy says he’s a “bit of a whore”, which could be close to a “bite off a whore”. Maybe it’s just a small body part of a whore.
Whatever kind of whore he is, he’s our whore and I, for one, am glad of it.
Keep up the good work Goldy!!
Things I like about Tim:
1) He’s not yet dead–which means I still have an opportunity to be the one to assassinate him.
(I’m not sure assassinate is the right word for such a petty nuisance. Euthanize?)
What’s really ironic is that Tim Eyman is the biggest fag in WA state politics. Gigantic lisp! He’s a walking showtune!
I mean “fag” in a good way.
“Tim Eyman” I meant in a bad way.
“reduced-fat or fat-free mayonnaise”? Come on, step up to the plate and use the real stuff (preferably Larry’s)!!!
Maybe… just maybe… this is a good thing. This move by Eyeman will backfire in my humble opinion. I’m pretty sure that most voters in Washington would vote against something so obviously (and morally) wrong and all it will do is expose the bigots for who they truly are.
I’ve been reading the blogs on this topic and there are only two ways to defend Eyeman’s position: 1) Wrap yourself in a literalist translation of the Bible and start quoting scripture from Leviticus…. And this will turn off most rational thinking Christians; or 2) Be consistent and be against ALL forms of anti-discrimination legislation…. This isn’t a world I would want to live in (where one can get fired for being black, or jewish, or married to an asian person), but at least the position is consistent and will consistently be rejected by the majority in the State.
Has anyone actually read the “against” verbage in HB2661? It’s downright scarey, completely based on believing the Bible is the unerring “word of God” and something you would see in present day Iran.
I think it was easy for most Republicans in the Senate to cast a vote in support of a fanatical base of voters, but it will be interesting to see if they actually have the guts to come out and verbalize the garbage of the extreme right fringe. I’ve asked my State Senator (Cheryl Pflug) TWICE now for an explanation on why she voted in favor of allowing discrimination and she has yet to answer me…. I think I know why she won’t answer me: Because it will make her look like the crazy bigots she is pandering to.
Come on Cheryl, I dare you, send me that letter you promised!
Con1st @4,
I thought we’ve been through this. I’m a bit of a media whore. Self-promotion is a necessary tool of the trade.
Can you moonbats explain to me why someone should get special privilege based on where they put their dick?
@14
Which “special priviledges” would those be?
MTR, why should someone get special privilege based on their imaginary friends (aka Jesus, Mohammed, et al)?
So, Mark, is not being fired or evicted now considered to be a special privilege?
Goldy,
I pissed myself when he said “Monopolize the debate”!!!
Who does this douche think he is?!
mesa @ 15: “Which ‘special priviledges’ would those be?”
Bonus points for filling unexpired city council terms??
It’s nothing more than a transparent attempt to get more GOP voters to the polls come November is order to offset the expected loss of either the house or senate.
Wow – cite a single case where that has happened. Just One. Seattle Times couldn’t come up with even a single case. Can you?
And don’t kid yourself. “Civil Rights” has been twisted into special privilege. And the choice of orifice to put your dick in is NOT a legitimate personal characteristic upon which to grant special privileges.
Mark’s just upset because no one will give him an orifice to put his dick into…
Sen. Bill Finkbeiner, a Kirkland Republican who bucked his party to vote his wife’s conscience and put the bill over the top. I hope Bill has new plans for what his next job will be when his time is up in the Senate.
Pride in Olympia over gay rights
PASSAGE of a gay-rights bill is a moment of pride for all of Washington. Our progressive state is on record opposing discrimination against gays and lesbians.
This is a huge victory for state Rep. Ed Murray, the Seattle Democrat who fought tirelessly for 11 years to protect gays and lesbians in matters of housing, employment and insurance. This is a big moment for gays, lesbians and tolerant citizens everywhere. Success did not come easily. The bill has been fought over in Olympia for nearly 30 years. Murray refused to lose and kept trying to create a coalition to make it happen.
The bill that passed the Senate Friday on a 25-23 vote is neither radical nor threatening. It merely adds the words “sexual orientation” to existing law that prohibits discrimination on the basis of race, age, gender, disability, religion and marital status. The legislation harms no one; it helps protect gays and lesbians.
The vote never could have happened without Murray’s leadership and tenacity. It also couldn’t have happened without state Sen. Bill Finkbeiner, a Kirkland Republican who bucked his party to vote his conscience and put the bill over the top. The House concurred and Gov. Christine Gregoire announced she would sign the bill into law Tuesday.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....yed30.html
Hey wingers. Read it and weep! http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11103804/ Your party is on its way out. We’ve effectively run you out of Washington state government. Now we’re going to run you out of the federal government. Then we’re going to run you to hell where you belong!
Mark, I am not going to get drawn into an anectdotal argument with you. How about you pony up with some further explanation after making an outrageous claim about civil rights being special privileges?
Wow – I’ve seen how this stuff works up close. Believe me, it’s a quota system in every way. Goodies are transferred from producers to takers without regard to anything other than superficial characteristics.
It is illegal and fundamentally unAmerican.
I fail to see where this is a problem. Timmy is going to pay people to gather names and addresses across this state from bigots and then he is going to deliver the list to the sec of state and the list will become public. Knowing who all the bigots are and where they live is a net gain in my book. Just think of all the shit these bigots will be getting in the mail; KKK membership letters, Nazi memorobilia catologs, discount cupons for white sheets.
Mark the Redneck:
You know, don’t you, how much happier you will be when you come out?
Okay, Mark. I’ll assume that you are white and middle class along with being male and heterosexual (full disclosure – I am all those things as well). If you really feel put upon and discriminated against, then by all means do what you have to do. I know that I am the privileged one so I’ll work towards equal rights for everyone.
I can see radio adds for KVI in song like the old Dr Pepper ad campaign. We walk like a bigot we think like a bigot we talk like a bigot. Wouldnt you like to be a bigot to?
Just sign a petition and you can be a bigot like Timothy to.
Just remember “Mark the Redneck” is the “producer” who welches on his bets. His mother (whose basement he haunts) must be so proud.
Mark, it’s OK to come out of the closet. You don’t need to spend years hating yourself like Jim West (R).
Mark the Redneck, has it occurred to you that lesbians, who I believe currently lack a dick, are also affected by the passage of this bill? How have your rights been injured by granted them the right not to be fired or discriminated?
MTR,
The quotas you’re talking about are in place because of laws that were enacted independently of the anti-discriminatory laws that have been passed. However, if you want to go to the extreme that adding sexual preference, etc. to the anti-discriminatory means that they’ll be added to the minority business policies/laws, then go crazy. Just means the pool got more diluted. Most of the policies I’ve seen do not have a certain percentage for female owned businesses or non-white owned businesses, they lump both together.
All, in all, if the addition of homosexuals, transgender, etc. to the list of ‘minorities’ equates to adding them to the pre-existing quotas it just means the number of businesses that meet the requirement just increased. So, congrats!. ;)
It is funny how the bigots who oppose this bill keep talking about “special priviledges” but when asked to name a single one of these, always ignore the question. Because, of course, there aren’t any. The bill simply adds gays to the list of protected classes that already include women, racial minorities, religious people, etc. But nobody is saying that these groups have “special priviledges” — well why not?
What is also overlooked is that the bill equally protects straight people from discrimination as it does gay people. It protects sexual orientation, so anybody could legitimately have an issue with that at some point in their life, not just gay people (although obviously the reason for the bill is mainly to protect gay people).
Most Republicans aren’t Homophobes;
But Most Homophobes are Republican.
MrJWow @ 25
If you’re talking to “Mark the Redneck,” please either use his full name or “MTR.” Otherwise, I think you’re talking to me.
And, for the record, discrimination isn’t a black-and-white issue and it is most definitely not a simple thing. Most (though not all) legislation is more feel-good stuff to get people elected and/or appease a segment of the population. One can write all kinds of exceptions (e.g. whether you must take a particular person as a housemate), but where there is a (discriminatory) will, there’s a way.
Just for the sake of argument… Is it discrimination if:
1. A Christian bookstore won’t hire non-Christian salespeople?
2. You refuse to hire a salesman to work in a lingerie store?
3. An elderly black woman doesn’t want to take on a Southern white woman as a roommate in her house?
4. A university class has 15 open slots on the first day of school, but a white male cannot register for the course?
Just wondering…
Hey… Does this mean that if I get fired for screwing the boss’s wife I can sue the company for discrimination? Sweet!!
Downside, the boss’s wife isn’t particularly attractive and I’m now going to slaughter a pig to get that horrid image out of my mind. Damn it.
Wow – If I claim that I’m actually a lesbian in a man’s body, can anybody gonna argue with me? All I hafta do is make the claim and I now have a gun to point at anyone’s head I choose.
Mark@36
1. If the bookstore has over 5 employees, yes.
2. If the lingerie store has over 5 employees, yes.
3. The law does not cover renting of rooms of private residences, mother-in-law apartments, single family residences on the same property that the owner lives on. So no.
4. Yes.;)
However, good luck proving any of the above that I marked as Yes.
MTR,
Start dressing like a woman and/or undergo a sex change, then you might have a claim.
Just for the sake of argument… Is it discrimination if:
1. A Christian bookstore won’t hire non-Christian salespeople?
Duh. Of course you cannot ask someone their religion during a job interview — are you a moron?
2. You refuse to hire a salesman to work in a lingerie store?
I believe the courts have ruled that if there is a compelling interest to hire a person of particular sex for a job, it is ok.
3. An elderly black woman doesn’t want to take on a Southern white woman as a roommate in her house?
Well of course it is illegal to discriminate in housing. I don’t really understand what elderly and Southern have to do with anything, but I in any case I really doubt that anybody is going to sue some old woman who needs a roommate. But if an apartment complex wouldn’t rent to whites or blacks, of course.
4. A university class has 15 open slots on the first day of school, but a white male cannot register for the course?
What the hell are you talking about?
Mark (and I mean that this time), you had made one previous comment in this thread. Why would you think I was talking to you? I’ll make it clearer in the future.
What are you even saying? That discrimination will happen anyway so why bother to try to prevent or make it illegal?
Your questions make your comment doubly ridiculous since you just said that discrimination is not a simple thing. I think that is probably true, but irrelevant to the discussion here. So, if you insist on making up scenarios and creating arguments from tiny possibilities, I will answer all your questions with a resounding maybe.
As a white male, I just laugh and laugh as my “fellows” who have no other reason to feel good about themselves other than having a dick (however modest) and a lack of melanin whine and moan about stuff like this. MTR is always talking about “producers,” but he’s terrified he can’t make it in a world which doesn’t offer him a huge headstart.
(Plus: he feels really guilty about the circle jerks he used to organize when he was a lad.)
Most Republicans aren’t Homophobes;
But Most Homophobes are Republican.
Comment by Robert— 1/30/06 @ 5:12 pm
Robert you wouldn’t be Bob from Boing? How about droping the stereotyping and add some substance to this web site.
So why does Eyeman oppose representative government? He clearly believes that they should not decide issues of taxation. Now he believes they should not decide policy issues either. Is Tim Eyeman unamerican?
So simple. Eyman files initiatives in order to pay himself to file and promote initiatives. No doubt he believes this campaign will be an easy one to get large numbers of homophobes and idiots to throw their money at. Big easy payday for Tim, win or lose — for TIM…. Taxpayers of the state lose if it actually gets on a ballot and scarce governmental resources are used to pay for a vote. And Tim laughs his (horses)ass off.
I’m gay.
Aaron @8, about Eyman:
(I’m not sure assassinate is the right word for such a petty nuisance. Euthanize?)
Might I suggest pith?
I dont blame you donks for running away from the Alito thread.
Gays have EXACTLY the same rights as everyone else without this law, we dont need to elevate deviant behavior with special privledges.
So Chuck, if a homo gets hired by your company and advances to become your boss, you’re OK with him firing you just because you’re straight? That would have been legal before this bill was passed. Now it’s not.
My question is, why should religion be protected?
running away from the Alito thread.
Nothing but a bunch of wingnut shills and buffoons over there.
Chuck,
What special priveledge is being given to homosexuals in this law that is not also granted to heterosexuals. There is no mention of homosexuality in the law, it merely bans discrimination based on sexual preference. So if you are fired from a job because you are straight, you’re more than welcome to sue the company.
we dont need to elevate deviant behavior with special privledges.
Taking into consideration your behavior on this comment board, I concur.
Tim @ 41 re: the university class.
That actually happened at the UW to someone I know.
Bobblehead@51
If my sexual preference is 5 year old boys, I can teach 1st grade school then…good idea!
“That actually happened at the UW to someone I know.”
Someone actually said that they couldn’t register because they were a white male?
What was the class? Did they appeal?
“If my sexual preference is 5 year old boys, I can teach 1st grade school then…good idea!”
Amazing how the whole concept of consent simply flies over the heads of these morons.
Caught the start of Eyman’s segment. Then had to run.
Note to Eyman: This is a loser, forget it.
Chuck,
You are a moron. Most pedophiles are straight males that abuse young girls. But, since you’re a moron, I’ll try to explain this to you.
The anti-discrimination law does not exempt someone from any other laws. One of those laws happens to be the age of consent laws. In Washington that’s age 16, unless the person is in a position of power in relation to the child, in which case, the age of consent is 18. And since you’re a moron, I’ll explain to you what a position of power is.. A teacher can not have sex with a 17 year old or younger student. A boss can not have sex with a 17 year old or younger employee. A coach can not have sex with a 17 year old or younger athelete.
Pardon me for not reading the thread yet but …
Is Tim Eyman really filing an INITIATIVE to undo HB 2661?
If so, Eyman is a real DUMBASS. What should be filed is a REFERENDUM.
W @ 57
Yes, he was told that there was a “minority preference” (or some such language) for the remaining seats in the class. Apparently, you COULD audit the class for something like two weeks on the off chance that the seats weren’t taken in that time, but if they were gone, you’ve wasted two weeks.
You Kenndey fans here is a good read.
Former Democratic Chief Counsel: Ted Kennedy Disgraced Himself
Jerry Zeifman
Monday, Jan. 30, 2006
In my view (as a Democrat and former chief counsel to the House Judiciary Committee), Senator Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass., has disgraced himself and our party by misusing his position on the Senate Judiciary Committee to achieve self-serving partisan ends.
Kennedy was the architect of an unprecedented tactic: using filibusters to polarize the Senate along party lines thus denying the confirmation of qualified conservative judges. In Bush’s first term the Senate Democrats used that tactic successfully against at least 10 nominees for judgeships on circuit courts.
Fortunately, Kennedy has failed in his partisan attempt to deny Judge Alito a seat on the U.S. Supreme Court. [Editor’s Note: Get the bestselling book about Ted Kennedy’s hypocrisy
This occurred largely because Democratic Senator Ben Nelson of Nebraska formed a non-partisan coalition of seven Democrats and seven Republicans to oppose filibusters, except in extraordinary cases.
Filibusters first arose after the Civil War as a means of defeating legislation intended to foster desegregation. They were an anathema to those of us who joined Martin Luther King’s famous March on Washington in 1963.
Fifteen years later during the Clinton administration filibusters were presumably also abhorrent to Senator Kennedy, who then wanted to outlaw them entirely. On Jan. 28, 1998, he argued: ” The president and the Senate do not always agree [on judicial nominations]. But we should resolve these disagreements by voting “yes” or “no.” Three years later Kennedy put politics above principle and became a champion of the filibuster. He also threatened to boycott any work of the Senate that was not essential for national security if a Republican majority was trying to outlaw filibusters by amending the Senate rules.
Subsequently, in a badgering cross-examination of Judge Alito, Kennedy tried to portray him as an undercover enemy of equal rights for women and minorities.
For me, Kennedy’s effort to impugn Judge Alito’s integrity was reminiscent of Republican Senator Joe McCarthy, who tarred his victims with the brush of guilt by association. Kennedy’s charge against Alito was based on the fact that 34 years ago, while a reserve officer in the Army, he joined a Princeton alumni group that opposed the banning of ROTC programs from the university’s campus. Some members of the group (other than Alito) wanted Princeton to continue its traditional policy of denying admission to women.
They also opposed affirmative action programs based on quotas. (Quota-bases programs were subsequently prohibited by the U.S. Supreme Court.)
On Jan. 17, NewsMax reported a story that most of the liberal media ignored: Kennedy had admitted his own membership in the Owl Club, which does not allow women, and was banned from the Harvard campus. He had paid dues to the all-male club ever since his student days.
Faced with evidence of his hypocrisy, Kennedy said, “I am going to get out of it as fast as I can.”
Aside from the Senator’s association with an all-male club there is other more substantial evidence of flaws in Kennedy’s character: Kennedy had been expelled from Harvard for paying a friend to take a Spanish exam for him.
He also has a history of mistreating women. In July 1969, with Mary Jo Kopechne (his date for the night at a drinking party) beside him in his car, Kennedy drove off the side of a bridge on Cape Cod at Chappaquiddick on Cape Cod.
When the car began to submerge in water the Senator escaped. Mary Jo remained in the car and drowned.
At that time Joan Kennedy, the Senator’s wife, was pregnant. Traumatized by the scandal and by her husband’s philandering, she had a miscarriage. She then started to drink her way into alcoholism. Eventually she went into psychiatric treatment and divorced Kennedy.
To counter the bad reputation he acquired among women because of the Chappaquiddick scandal and his mistreatment of his wife, the Senator pandered to pro-choice feminists – causing his pro-life detractor to quip, “Libertine men always favor abortion.”
At the Senate’s confirmation hearings Kennedy metaphorically picked up the pro-abortion gauntlet and hoped to deliver Judge Alito’s head on a political platter to Washington’s most radical feminist groups and other major contributors of campaign money to the Democratic Party.
Finally, anyone interested in the flaws in Kennedy’s character should read “The Senator: My Ten Years With Ted Kennedy,” by Richard Burke. The author describes how he tried to save the Senator from his personal excesses.
He also provides a behind-the-scenes account of Kennedy’s 1980 unsuccessful primary race against then President Jimmy Carter; which hopelessly polarized the Democratic Party – and helped Ronald Reagan move into the White House.
During my own career on Capitol Hill I once told House Speaker “Tip” O’Neill in confidence: “I have a low opinion of Senator Kennedy.” He replied discreetly: “The Kennedys are not real Democrats. They have their own party.” [Editor’s Note: Get the bestselling book about Ted Kennedy’s hypocrisy
Richard Pope,
Eyman is filing both. A referendum to repeal the law and an initiative to ban quotas based on sexual orientation.
Richard Pope@61
Dumbass, he filed BOTH…
I will agree with Aunt Tora @ 46.
Eyman is doing this INITIATIVE simply for the MONEY.
Any Tom, Dick or Harry can file a REFERENDUM — which would have a little over 120 days to get signatures — until 90 days after the legislature adjourns — and would only require HALF the signatures of an initiative.
But an INITIATIVE — you have to write the thing with your own language, as opposed to saying that you want people to vote on the bill that the legislature passed.
Eyman can make lots of money for himself with an INITIATIVE, but would hardly get a penny as one of the many folks who would try to get signatures for a REFERENDUM.
I think even Goldy would agree with my analysis on this one.
And it isnt to undo anything, it is to let the people have the final asy.
The Link if you want to buy the book.
http://www.newsmaxstore.com/nm.....38;CatID=1
Jesus loves to burn gays in hell. Jesus has fun watching them fry. It says in the bible that when Jesus died on the cross and raised from the dead, the first thing he said was “Look out homos. I’m pissed and you’re gonna pay”. Then Jesus made friends with rich people and appointed them shamans and male witches.
by W.@58
What if I havent actually had relations with a 5 year old, but voiced my PREFERENCE of them in a school job interview?
Richard Pope@66
I could say the same about Patty Murray, and she doesnt care how dirty the money is….
Chuck,
The people did have a say in the passing of this law. I don’t know about you, but every few years I vote for someone to represent me in the state legislature. Democrats control the election because more people voted for them. If the Republicans wanted to stop this law, then perhaps they should have run better campaigns in the last election? Until the Republicans can run a better campaign than the Dems, STFU.
running away from the Alito thread.
Nothing but a bunch of wingnut shills and buffoons over there.
Comment by For the Clueless— 1/30/06 @ 5:57 pm
It could be worse. It could be full of loser,Whiner donks.
Okay, Chuck, I will change my opinion after looking at the facts more.
Goldy is the real DUMBASS here. Tim Eyman has apparently filed both a referendum and an initiative. Goldy only talks about the initiative, and not about the referendum.
There can be absolutely NOTHING wrong with a REFERENDUM. If the legislature has actually passed a law, the law is either a good law or a bad law. If it is a bad law, then people should be able to vote on whether or not to keep the law. If it is a good law, then there is no harm in allowing the people to have their say.
Bobblehead@72
The reason we have the referendum as well as initiatives in this state is so when the government is in maxumum overdrive (gotta see the movie) we can slow things down a bit (reference 695). It is the people that run this, of the people by the people and…yes for the people.
Richard Pope@74
I am in total agreement with your comment…sorry bout the dumbass comment.
Last Conservative Standing @4
“If Eyman is an initiative whore (and he is), then what kind of whore are you?”
Sorry, dude, but Eyman gets paid and Goldy doesn’t.
Eyman = mercenary, whore, hired gun, pimp, bloodsucker
Goldy = public spirited do-gooder
It’s all about money, dude. If you get money, you’re a whore. If you don’t, it’s love.
That means because Republican girls marry for money, they’re all whores. Because Democrats have no money, anyone who marries a Democrat does it for love.
74
“There can be absolutely NOTHING wrong with a REFERENDUM. If the legislature has actually passed a law, the law is either a good law or a bad law. If it is a bad law, then people should be able to vote on whether or not to keep the law. If it is a good law, then there is no harm in allowing the people to have their say.”
Richard — would you have felt the same way about letting southern voters hold a referendum on the Voting Rights Act back in ’64? This is no different.
Yeah, right, let’s let southern bigots vote on whether blacks should be allowed to vote. Of course, blacks won’t be allowed to vote on this referendum. Way to go, Richard. Popular democracy in action. Put it up to the people to decide whether bigots should get their way. Yay for Richard, who has reached a new low in crass insensitivity toward his fellow humans, even for him. No wonder Richard has never gotten elected to anything — and never will.
Decline to sign
Hey Richard — I voted for your OPPONENT for Port Commissioner. I only mention that to rub your face in it.
75
The PEOPLE are gonna kick your sorry ass back into the sewer you crawled out of, Cheesy Chuckie.
Hey, I have an idea! Let’s hold a popular referendum on whether Bush’s electoral votes should be revoked! His approval rating has slipped below 40% again.
Roger Rabbit@78
Then Patty Murray is in fact a professional whore?
Which makes me wonder WHAT THE HELL are those 39% thinking? Oh, I forgot, they don’t think.
Roger Rabbit@79
Bill Gates seems democrat to me…
Chuck,
The voters in Washington have already self-corrected. Last I checked, Republicans controlled both the House and Senate until the last election. There is nothing maximum overdrive about the state government, it’s merely representing a majority of the state’s citizens.
Our founding fathers created this country as a constitutional republic for one reason. That is to protect individuals from the tyranny of the majority. Equal treatment is fundamental to our success of this country.
The sooner peopel quit worrying about what other people are doing and take care of their own lives the better off we will be.
Roger Rabbit@81
You forgot to add this “Yeah, right, let’s let southern bigot DEMOCRATS”…
MAYBE DWIGHT PELZ SHOULD DRESS UP LIKE A KLANSMAN:
Rep. [Sam] Hunt [D-Olympia] expressed outrage over the proposal.
“Tim Eyman, have you no shame?” Hunt said. “Eyman is stooping to a new low just to line his pockets and get a mailing list of bigots.”
Hunt described himself as “pissed but sober,” then added, referring to Eyman having dressed up as a prisoner during a legislative hearing last week: “If Tim Eyman is fond of wearing costumes, I suggest his next one be a white sheet and a pointy white hat. I just think it is a sad day for Washington what he is doing.”
http://theolympian.com/apps/pb.....S/60130002
I think it would be more appropriate for Dwight Pelz, incoming Chair of the Washington State Democrats, to dress up like a Klansman.
Simply use Hunt’s twisted logic here. Pelz has run against minorities in each of his five elections (two to the State Senate, two to the King County Council, and his recent failed bid to the Seattle City Council). The last two races put Pelz head-to-head against an African-American.
Therefore, if Pelz likes to run against minorities — and especially if he tried to unseat the only African-American on the Seattle City Council — PELZ MUST BE A KLANSMAN!
Actually, it is much more logical for Pelz to be a Klansman, than it is for Eyman to be a Klansman. Pelz ran against blacks, and the KKK is opposed to blacks. Eyman opposes gay rights, but a lot of blacks also oppose gay rights.
Maybe Dwight Pelz and Christine Gregoire should both wear KKK robes and hoods. This would be an easy wardrobe choice for Gregoire — her Kappa Delta sorority robes from the 1960’s are very similar to Klan robes. And Sam Hunt could at least wear a dunce cap.
You think Dubya is unpopular now, just wait until his deficits drive up interest rates. This is what will happen:
1. Higher interest rates will increase the cost of debt service on the national debt, driving the deficits even higher;
2. Hundreds of thousands of people who bought super-high-priced housing on zero-down interest-only ARMS will be unable to make their mortgage payments, triggering massive defaults and a multi-billion-dollar government bailout of the banks that will drive the deficit even higher;
3. China, fearing a collapse of the dollar, will back away from buying U.S. debt, forcing interest rates even higher, which will drive the deficit even higher;
4. The interest rate/deficit monster, now eating its own tail, eventually will cause the U.S. economy to tumble into a major recession.
If we’re lucky, the economic shit will hit the fan just before the 2008 election, resulting in Hillary defeating Jeb Bush by 70% to 10%, with an independent candidate picking up the other 20%. The Republicans will get ZERO electoral votes, and lose both houses of Congress; the entire Supreme Court will resign because they haven’t received their paychecks for over a year. Democrats will spend the next forty years cleaning up the GOP’s messes, and the Republican Party will disappear forever.
I LOVE IT!!! Well, the part about Republicans disappearing, anyway.
Bobblehead@89
No it is in maximum overdrive…Dino should be the governor…period.
Seeking the truth@90
You mean like the smokers?
Hard to tell what’ll wipe out the Republicans first, interest rates or the Rapture, but I’d put my money on interest rates. Can’t wait for the Rapture to come, though!
WHOOOOOOSSSSSHHHHHH!!!
144,000 Republicans GONE just like that!!!
God puh-leeze send the Rapture, God puh-leeze send the Rapture, God puh-leeze send the Rapture, God puh-leeze send the Rapture, God puh-leeze send the Rapture, God puh-leeze send the Rapture, God puh-leeze send the Rapture, God puh-leeze send the Rapture, God puh-leeze send the Rapture, God puh-leeze send the Rapture, God puh-leeze send the Rapture, God puh-leeze send the Rapture, God puh-leeze send the Rapture, God puh-leeze send the Rapture, God puh-leeze send the Rapture, God puh-leeze send the Rapture, God puh-leeze send the Rapture, God puh-leeze send the Rapture, God puh-leeze send the Rapture, God puh-leeze send the Rapture, God puh-leeze send the Rapture, God puh-leeze send the Rapture, God puh-leeze send the Rapture, God puh-leeze send the Rapture, God puh-leeze send the Rapture, God puh-leeze send the Rapture, God puh-leeze send the Rapture, God puh-leeze send the Rapture, God puh-leeze send the Rapture, God puh-leeze send the Rapture, God puh-leeze send the Rapture, God puh-leeze send the Rapture, God puh-leeze send the Rapture, God puh-leeze send the Rapture, God puh-leeze send the Rapture, God puh-leeze send the Rapture, God puh-leeze send the Rapture, God puh-leeze send the Rapture, God puh-leeze send the Rapture, God puh-leeze send the Rapture, God puh-leeze send the Rapture, God puh-leeze send the Rapture, God puh-leeze send the Rapture, God puh-leeze send the Rapture, God puh-leeze send the Rapture, God puh-leeze send the Rapture, God puh-leeze send the Rapture, God puh-leeze send the Rapture …
94
Hey Chucklehead, Rossi lossi! Get over it! Move on … LOSER!!!
96
Glad to see Wabbit is gearing up for tomorrow’s Freedom Day.
Remember a republican ended slavery
Chuck,
Dino lost. Get over it. If you want to blame someone, blame the shitty lawyers the Republicans hired. They had no evidence of voter fraud and didn’t even try to get it. They hoped they could wave unsupported theories and conjectures and somehow blind the judge to the law.
And the GOP has gone downhill ever since.
And a conservative Justice will free us from judicial tyranny.
Wow! This thread already has over 100 comments! That’s more than Stefan’s pathetic little blog gets in a whole month. Sucky Politics is so bad even Stefan doesn’t read it. He reads HorsesAss instead. HA! HA! HA!
Hey Steffie, how come you poisoned the lettuce in your garden? Don’t you know that could get you 5 years in Walla2? You’re an anti-animal bigot!
Bobblehead@100
The fraud was as plain as the nose on my face (I have a fair nose) but I guess you can live with that one congrats on the corruption. We will THROW her out next election!
Cheesy Chuckie likes to hear himself blow brain farts. Disgusting.
Chuck,
It was? Please provide your legally submittable evidence of widespread fraud that would have changed the election results.
Thanks.
Bobblehead@107
Just because a judge says shit doesnt stink, I can still smell it from a while away…
Chuck,
Governor Gregoire’s approval rating is trending upwards. At the height of the Republican Election Farce, she had an approval rating of -24, she now has an approval rating of +1. Seems to me the more Washingtonians see of her, the more they like her.
http://www.surveyusa.com/clien.....4e08492815
“Comment by Mark the Reddick”
That is hilarious!!! Thanks!
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“If you’re talking to “Mark the Redneck,†please either use his full name or “MTR.†Otherwise, I think you’re talking to me.”
Comment by Mark — 1/30/06 @ 5:14 pm
Ah, the never ending (M)(m)ark(s) debate.
Chuck @ 56. What do you mean ‘IF’?
YOUR RIGHT BOBBLEHEAD THE REPUBLICANS DO NEED BETTER LAWYERS THATS WHY TOMMORROW ALITO WILL BECOME A MEMBER OF THE HIGHEST COURT IN THE NATION. AND IF WE ARE LUCKY BUSH WILL GET ONE MORE CHOICE BEFORE HIS TERM IS UP THEN YOU ASSHOLES WILL REALLY SCREAMING JUST LIKE DEAN LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSERS
Belltowner, God dammit, I’m on a diet and this is why.
Take one Hebrew National Dinner Frank (Goldys fav) and split in half.
Fry up nicely in a pan. Take two of the larger pieces of
Couer D’Alene sourdough sliced round pieces and smear mayonaisse
and your favorite mustard, and toast. Slide the giant weiner
onto the bread & close. Pour a twenty ounce glass of 35 degree
2% milk and proceed to chow. MMMMMMMMMM
“Take two of the larger pieces of Couer D’Alene sourdough sliced round pieces and smear mayonaisse and your favorite mustard, and toast. Slide the giant weiner onto the bread & close”
I just know that erotic description made MTR horny.
Chuck @ 105. ‘As clear as the nose on your face’? Difficult to see your nose as your head is usually so far up your ass or you are on your knees ‘brown nosing’ your neocon idols.
Okay, back to business. I don’t care much for fags. I don’t care much for fat short hair teacher looking lesbians, but I dig hot 20
year olds cleaning carpet. Should I send Eyman any money? Please
help.
YO @ 112. You believe in luck? Then I hope the world is ‘lucky’ and your monkey king gets his balls cut off, the sooner the better.
Drivel@111
Becaus my preference is 30 year old women…unlike yours…I noticed you zoomed in on the 5 year old example like a hawk! It is guys like you I want to protect society from.
96
I’m a-gwine tuh pu-rayyy with ya… The sooner them fascists is gone, the bettuh.
God ain’t a-listenin to prayurs theeza days. He’s got his I-pod on and isa listenin to banjo music, plinka plink plinky plink… Prayurs are all insincere, the ones comin from the Krischuns anyways, fascist mofos is real boring always the same god damn prayurs, like it don’t get old and stupider every time they need to brown nose the old man.
Pray all you want just dont pray in public school. Wait until the new SCOTUS makes it legal.
-And don’t kid yourself. “Civil Rights” has been twisted into special privilege. –
-Can you moonbats explain to me why someone should get special privilege based on where they put their dick? –
Notice how mesa asked Mark The Short-necked Republican just what those “special privileges” were – four hours ago – and the guy doesn’t even try to answer, despite he made the claim twice?
If MTR actually believed what he posted, dontcha think he would have answered that basic question by now?
Talk about useless feigning trolls.
Could we get a REAL conservative to weigh in on this subject?
Chuck,
“The fraud was as plain as the nose on my face (I have a fair nose)”
…probably means it’s time to get your meds adjusted again.
“Pray all you want just dont pray in public school. Wait until the new SCOTUS makes it legal.”
You can pray all you want in school … you just can’t force others to pray along with you.
“Can you moonbats explain to me why someone should get special privilege based on where they put their dick? ”
Why don’t you explain why you get federal marriage recognition and the cooresponding benefits simply because of where YOU put your dick?
Special privilege means that the Excel crowd goes into high gear. Every business and gummint agency will have “targets” on spreadsheets covering everything from hiring, to promotions to pay and everything else. They call them “targets”, but they are quotas pure and simple. Merit has ZERO role in any discussion. The only thing that will matter is whether you’re willing to claim that your dick is brown when you pull it out.
W – Because the family is a necessary condition for ANY civilized culture. Butt fucking does not make a family. Understand?
Hey Mark, don’t forget that there are plenty of heteros that go for a little rump release every now and then, too. It’s been going on for millenia. Ever seen the little stone figurines from the Inca empire depicting anal sex?
I’ve also yet to see any credible evidence that homosexual relationships destroy the fabric of societies. Sure, if 100% of the population went homosexual, there’d be no procreation, but that doesn’t seem to be happening.
And remember, Mark, the definition of a dysfunctional family is “2 or more members”.
Traditional families are also the source of all incidences of incest. And wife beating. And, … oh, never mind.
The law is bullshit legislation. Someone has to show (that means prove) me any case that would have been affected by the law in the last 29 years. This is the only reason I opposed this bill. I could care less about “special privileges” I think that any law that you pass requires resources. Resources that cost money… i do see where some people would feel that this law was needed.
However, to repeal it would and should be near impossible, even for a stupid fool like Timmy I-Man to pull off. i do not intend to support timmy in his latest foolishness. unless he comes out of the closet…in which case you can count me in.
That’s it from me a humble conservative
Geez E… all that fancy book larnin’ I got you’d figger I’da run across them Inca figurines. Is that what passes for “education” down there at Bong U? And you have the fucking nerve to take taxpayer money? Shit…
133
Nope, I saw them at one of them publicly funded mee-yu-see-ums. ‘Course, it wasn’t in the U-S-of-A, so you don’t need to worry. And, since sexual behavior has basically nothing to do with my educational agenda, my students down here at Bong U aren’t larnin’ ’bout that from me. (They also don’t get to shoot up in class, either.)
By the way, I should add above (131) that there are probably some incidences of incest in homosexual families, but I haven’t heard of them. Nevertheless, that’d just go to prove my point at 130.
Rufus said
“Pray all you want just dont pray in public school. Wait until the new SCOTUS makes it legal.”
It is stuff like that that makes you a certified Kool Aid Drunk wingnut, bought and paid by the RNC.
GIVE ME ONE… Let Me say it twice… GIVE ME ONE example of a person denied the right to pray (to any “god” of their choice) in a public school.
Unless they want to make it an official part of the school day, they are as free as wingnuts on HA to pray as long as they want.
Prove me wrong RUFUS “The Mayor Of Paid-By-The-RNC”
I’ve also yet to see any credible evidence that homosexual relationships destroy the fabric of societies. Sure, if 100% of the population went homosexual, there’d be no procreation, but that doesn’t seem to be happening.
Comment by Dr. E — 1/30/06 @ 9:21 pm [Sooooooooo, A few hundred million fags with AIDs around the Western Free World doesn’t seem to be a problem??]
horseshead @ 132,
“The law is bullshit legislation. Someone has to show (that means prove) me any case that would have been affected by the law in the last 29 years.”
If you believe that the law would have had no effect over the last 29 years, then why object to it? Shouldn’t it just stand as-is and provide protection in the event of future violations?
I mean, sometimes laws are made to codify rights and responsibilities even in the absence of known “problems.”
The Day The Make Sticking A Dick In An Asshole A Crime Is The Day They Make Republican Party Illegal.
MTR knows what I mean *wink*, You old cross dressing sodomite!
“Can you moonbats explain to me why someone should get special privilege based on where they put their dick? â€
Why don’t you explain why you get federal marriage recognition and the cooresponding benefits simply because of where YOU put your dick?
Comment by W. — 1/30/06 @ 9:15 pm {W, It’s nice to see liberal fag Democrats sticking up for gay anal “butt sex”. Your really “came in from behind” on those evil Republican trolls!! Don’t let any AIDs diseases stop you from bending over and getting the “Tookie Williams love” that you queers enjoy!!]
JCH “A few hundred million fags with AIDs around the Western Free World doesn’t seem to be a problem??”
Not as mush as the Republican’s spreading it to their congregations!
Har Har Har Har
Just Kidding! Ann Coulter is the original source of AIDs.
MTR @ 127
“Because the family is a necessary condition for ANY civilized culture.
Well, then, that would make people like you socially dead (as in useless to society as a result of being incapable of forming a socially acceptable family).
I mean, you either made a really bad choice when forming your family, or, more likely, you drove you ex-wife to drug abuse. Hell, given the lack of integrity you have shown here (i.e. not paying off on bets), I would be surprised if you were your exs meth dealer.
“Butt fucking does not make a family. Understand?”
So? It doesn’t preclude creating a family either. Especially now, with assisted reproductive technologies, one’s mode of sexual gratification is dislinked from reproduction.
Holy shit are you one stupid fucking redneck!
JCH
I’m gonna answer you like this:
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Okay?
MAn, someone really needs to put cyanide into Ann Coulter’s morning cup of coffee.
Just kidding!
(s)he should be bludgeoned to death with her gay lover MTR.
What a great picture that would make!
Just kidding!
Don –
You know, Frank Zappa once said that AIDS was either a) descended to Earth from outer space, b) developed by a bio-chemical lab to rake in the profits with the vaccine, or c) transmitted to humans via monkeys, as many attested in the 80s.
His next question was “I wanna know, who’s been plooking the monkeys?”
But, to be serious for a minute here:
I wanna know what this “unitary executive” theory is all about. Why is it a good thing? Really, I wanna know, especially since we’re gonna get its chief advocate on the Supreme Court as of tomorrow.
LOL Dr. E!
A: (M)(m)ark(s) (The Redneck)
Don, I see you have no problems paying for the medical bills for liberal Democrat gays with AIDs. So why do I have to pay? These queers knew the AID story when they “Tookie Loved” their fag boyfriend. Let them deal with their own self inflicted medical conditions.
Traditional families are also the source of all incidences of incest. And wife beating. And, … oh, never mind.
Comment by Dr. E— 1/30/06 @ 9:24 pm
Dr. E. you disappeared last night before your answered the last post. Question what type of doctor do you claim to be and what countries did you visited in the Middle East. Last question do you equate the Iraq War with The Island State of Melos in 416 BC? Were the Melos citizens gay like the Greeks or the other way around?
JCH
We’re not asking you to pay. If you don’t want to pay, take your case to the IRS.
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Alright?
Dr E, How did the AIDs virus get from African monkeys to African blacks? Perhaps a little African “Tookie Williams love”? Well, what an inpressive culture!! Kind of like Detroit!!!
We the people already voted on this issue in 1997, it was Initiative 677 and We The People Said NO!
We the people also voted to abolish Affirmative Action, it was Initiative 200 and We the People Said Yes!
So now the Legislature is looking for more special interest gratification to line their pockets.
Fortunately for We the People we have Tim Eyman, that will let We the People Vote on this issue again! Especially since the corrupt government will not do what we say to do!
Dr E, You have to be a “guvment” hack, as I have no doubt you have no marketable skills in the private sector. Let me guess: public sector”educator”????
JCH
I’m gonna answer you like this:
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Okay?
Comment by Dr. E — 1/30/06 @ 9:41 pm [Mr. X, Bill, and Don, I think Dr. E just stated he wanted some “Tookie Anal Love” from his liberal Democrat fag friends. Step up, boys!!!]
JCH “you have no problems paying for the medical bills for liberal Democrat gays with AIDs. So why do I have to pay? These queers knew the AID story when they “Tookie Loved†their fag boyfriend. Let them deal with their own self inflicted medical conditions.”
Well, I am an equal opportunity Christian. Even the Republican gays, and heterosexuals who contract AIDS need all the help we can give them.
Oh, and JCH, I hate to shock you, but even Republican drug addicts get AIDS. I am willing to help them too. And I am willing to vote for you to be taxed to pay for it.
No need to thank me.
It is the Christian thing to do.
JCH… why do you hate Jesus?
JCH talks more about butt sex than any homosexual I’ve ever known.
One could almost think he’s … obsessed … about it.
JCH said
I am a follower of Christ, but you JCH, can go to Hell. I wouldn’t spit on you to stop a fever you had.
Dr. E did you check out before answering my questions?
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Alright?
Comment by Dr. E— 1/30/06 @ 9:50 pm
DR E. could you retranslate that last paragraph?
Klake had questions???
Did it involve being able to color within the lines? Or picking the correct sounds for farm animals??
Or was it a loaded question derived from the RNC talking points?
JCH did you scare off Dr. E.?
Or was it a loaded question derived from the RNC talking points?
Comment by Donnageddon— 1/30/06 @ 10:07 pm
How sweet Donnageddon!
Hey Mark, sorry if I offended you at 128, above… those little stone carvings are studied by folks involved in a discipline called “Anthropology”, though. Last I checked, we do have a few publicly funded courses in Antrhopology down here at Bong U, but I haven’t checked the textbooks or lecture notes. My guess would be that, if you stay away from any class that has “Sexuality” in its title (and you could find those in the Psych and Soc. departments, too) you’d probably be safe.
Last question do you equate the Iraq War with The Island State of Melos in 416 BC?
Donnageddon could you give me your point of view on that question?
E – No thanks. I go to serious schools to get serious education in things that matter. Technical stuff way beyond anything you can comprehend. Tough work, but it pays a shitload.
Klake, you’ll probably be a bit disappointed in my response, since I don’t like to give away information that could be potentially identifying to complete strangers. Suffice it to say that my doctorate qualifies me to teach in university academic units found in colleges like “Letters and Sciences”, “Arts and Humanities”, and the like. It also gets me a bunch of extra letters after my name, and I get to hear people call me “doctor”. Aside from that, it’s no great shakes.
Regarding my adventures in the Middle East, well, I don’t even tell the INS where I’ve been on my re-entry cards — I figure they can go ahead and look at my airplane tickets to see where I was last (plus all those stamps in my passports). I refused to fill that out once they put that section on the landing cards back in the 90s (when it was optional); now that it no longer says “optional”, I just carelessly overlook it. You know, those NSA guys (the same ones who don’t seem to understand the wording of the 4th Amendment) are probably churning the contents of this blog through one of their supercomputers right now, so why load them up with more trigger words?
(Now, if we were drinking a beer at DL, you might find out more.)
As for your question about Milos, I don’t quite see what you’re getting at, so I couldn’t really answer.
“Technical stuff way beyond anything you can comprehend.”
Don’t flatter yourself, Mark. You wanna talk elite universities? I can put “Cantab.” after my name.
E – You wasted your time.
Really? How so?
Dr E I am been doing some research on Pacifism and what nation state that was destroyed because it did not defend itself from an outside threat. All the men were slathered and the women and kids sold as slaves. How is your Greek History?
Athens, 411 BCE: With the city-state depleted and exhausted by the long and costly Peloponnesian War, Athens nevertheless took time out for a theater festival. The hit of the festival was a hilarious, groundbreaking and very topical farce: “Lysistrata,” in which the comic genius Aristophanes depicted a sex strike for peace by the war-weary women of Athens
By 411, the war extended far beyond Greece’s Peloponnesian peninsula, where Athens’ enemy Sparta ruled. All across the Aegean Sea, Athens’ brilliant and powerful navy was building an empire—and it was not building gently. Five years earlier, in 416, the navy had besieged the tiny island-state of Melos, slaughtered every adult Melian man and sold the women and children into slavery. The next year, in 415, Athens’ leading dramatic playwright Euripides debuted “The Trojan Women,” a pointed tale of the end of the Trojan War and its tragic consequences for women and children, especially—but not limited to—those on the losing side. So “Lysistrata” wasn’t the first antiwar play. It was, however, the first play about antiwar organizing—and it stood Euripides’ vision on its head. If women were victims of war, said “Lysistrata,” perhaps women should do something about war. It took the imagination of a genius to picture such a thing, for although Athens was nominally a democracy, women were not part of the body politic; they were the virtual property of their fathers or husbands or brothers or sons. The women of Sparta had more freedom.
No one took Aristophanes’ hint. There was no peace; Athens lost the war a few years later. (A note to empire builders: Barely a dozen years elapsed between the massacre at Melos and the destruction of the walls of Athens under the whips of Spartan overseers.) Yet it was the Attic culture that prevailed in the West—including its gender ethos. Women remained segregated from political life for the next two millennia, and Euripides’ tragic vision, not Aristophanes’, continued to reflect the harsh reality: For all those thousands of years, women and children suffered the terrible consequences of wars they hadn’t made.
Flash forward two-and-a-half millennia to the spring of 2003 CE. The United States was about the enter the second phase of a war that had already been costly and threatened to be long, perhaps endless. It was also the most unpopular war in history, with opponents across the globe protesting by the millions. No longer excluded from the body politic in much of the world, women were prominent in all of those protests, but nowhere more than in the Lysistrata Project: On March 3, women-organized groups in 59 countries around the world held 1,000-plus more-or-less simultaneous readings of Aristophanes’ still-relevant comedy in the hope of inspiring even more mass resistance to the war.
Well of course it is illegal to discriminate in housing. I don’t really understand what elderly and Southern have to do with anything, but I in any case I really doubt that anybody is going to sue some old woman who needs a roommate. But if an apartment complex wouldn’t rent to whites or blacks, of course.
Actually before HB2661 passed, it was illegal under state law to refuse to rent to someone due to race, marital status, etc etc even if you were renting out rooms in your own home.
In the process of passing this bill, language was added to where they now can discriminate as far as state law is concerned. Whether or not this covers federal law. I’ve seen the opponents screaming saying they’d be required to rent rooms in their homes to gays if they make their rooms available for rent, and the law was changed.
Remember also this doesn’t effect federal laws on housing discrimination. As many of us in the gun rights movement know very well, you have to follow both state and federal law to be in compliance legally.
Klake –
I’m not a Pacifist. I just don’t believe in immoral or illegal wars.
I love the conservative asswipe who “knew a guy at the U” who was supposedly kept from registering for a class because he was white. What a dumbshit. Too stupid to even make up a name for this non-existant guy. Can’t you even make up a half decent lie? Geez conservatives are dumb. What a drag on society they are.
Klake –
I’m not a Pacifist. I just don’t believe in immoral or illegal wars.
Comment by Dr. E— 1/30/06 @ 10:30 pm
Then you are a Pacifist and it not something to be ashamed of. You lack all the nessary information to determined if it is a illegal war.
There’s more than enough information out there to determine that the Bush administration has broken international law in more than one area with its Iraq war. They have not, however, been criminally tried. Therein lies the difference.
Pointing that out does not make me a pacifist. If we were invaded by, say, a raging horde of Nicaraguans (as Reagan would have had us believe back in the 80s), then we’d have every right to defend ourselves militarily.
Using the entire NFL to beat up on the neighborhood bully, just because you want his lunch money, is pretty immoral, if you ask me. Especially if you go about rationalizing your actions by claiming that the bully might hypothetically been able to give some shady gang members some of his firecrackers to blow up your cat. That was more or less the administrations rationale, if I remember it correctly.
Uh oh…
It’s recipe time.
* Exported from MasterCook Mac *
Tomato Bisque
Recipe By :
Serving Size : 6 Preparation Time :0:00
Categories : Soups
Amount Measure Ingredient — Preparation Method
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1 300 g pkg. soft tofu — drained
1 20 oz can tomatoes
1 1/2 tbsps oil
1 onion — thinly sliced
3 cloves garlic — pressed
1 tsp salt
1 tbsp cornstarch
2 c water
1 large tomato — chopped
1 celery stalk — finely chopped
parsley — for garnish
1) Blend tofu & canned tomatoes in blender or food processor until smooth.
2) In a saucepan, saute onion & garlic in oil until onion begins to brown.
Add salt. Remove from heat.
3) Dissolve cornstarch in 1 c of cold water & pour into sauteed onion & garlic
mixture. Stir constantly to avoid lumps. Bring to a boil over medium heat,
stirring occasionally. Reduce heat & let simmer for 5 minutes.
4) Add tofu mixture, chopped fresh tomato, celery & the remaining water. Heat on medium for 10 minutes. Serve immediately.
I wouldn’t be surprised to find out that Tim Eyman is in fact yet another closet gay man uncomfortable with anyone finding out and that he is over compensating by filing this initiative.
If so Tim, really, it’s alright. I won’t think any more highly of you for knowing.
What MTR @ 166 seems to be saying is that he’s a classic techno-geek. Given the remarkably ignorant things he has said about women, how could one be at all surprised at his take on sexual orientation? I say, keep him talking to his heart’s content, because he’s making conservatives look pretty ridiculous to the moderate middle that determines the outcomes of Washington elections.
There’s more than enough information out there to determine that the Bush administration has broken international law in more than one area with its Iraq war. They have not, however, been criminally tried. Therein lies the difference.
Please recite those laws you claim he broke and what evidence do you have to support that claim? You cannot try the winner of a conflict unless you are willing to go to war yourself.
You moonbats can’t win for losing, can you…..
All of you realize that the initiative will pump up the votes come this November? I guess you all stuck your foot in it again.
Pointing that out does not make me a pacifist. If we were invaded by, say, a raging horde of Nicaraguans (as Reagan would have had us believe back in the 80s), then we’d have every right to defend ourselves militarily.
Do to the nature of war today we now using preemptive strikes against people or nations who are preparing to strike this nation. All rules you are dealing with no longer applies after the Towers fell in New York. If you support War under certain conditions then you are not a pacifist. I will not fight a war with your rulebook because it lacks clarity when to engage the enemy and how.
“And the choice of orifice to put your dick in is NOT a legitimate personal characteristic upon which to grant special privileges.”
I agree. And neither is skin color, age, gender, or physical capability. This is a dog eat dog world and Mark the Redneck is CLEARLY the big dog who has eaten MANY MANY other dogs in his time.
Surprise, Mark! You are both right AND wrong. It’s too late to stop the addition of single word characterizations to the list. We’ve stopped being able to discern by decency when a person has been illegitimately wronged, and now must LIST all the ways it is possible in order for our judges to render a verdict. Don’ worry ol’ boy, we’ll add Low IQ, Breeder, and Pink Pink Skin to the list eventually.
To Hell with Tim Eyman! He should be ashamed. And, if he had any balls, his little inititive would be for allowing society to stone homosexuals to death. Period. I’m queer as can be, have lost housing and employment because of it and I DARE the religious right to use their beliefs to KILL me in the streets! F&ck them!
Belltowner @ 178
But can you find a Chicken Marsala recipe that doesn’t taste like airline food?
John the Revelator @ 185,
It sounds like you need a trained professional to help with your paranoid schizophrenia. I can recommend someone for you if you need help.
One thing that may help you right away is to not visit this site anymore.
There certainly is no longer any doubt that Tim Eyman is John Carlson’s beard.
Does this new law protect a Straight Man or Woman from being discriminated against by a Gay or Lesbian business or Landlord? Just Curious?
182
“All of you realize that the initiative will pump up the votes come this November? I guess you all stuck your foot in it again.”
But for which side?
If Tim Eyman gets his REFERENDUM on the ballot, I hope all the moonbat Eyman haters VOTE NO on it and tell all their friends to VOTE NO on it.
Klake @ 165 asked the very important question:
WOW Now That is a Deep Penetrating question!!
Donnageddon’s answer next!!
No.
Klake is what I like to call, a highly edumacated Idiot.
Donnageddon@144
Some men just cannot handle a woman that is more intelligent than they are…
Chuck, that must leave you very, very lonley.
Donnageddon@196
Im not the one that feels so threatened that I want someone dead…
Hey Chuck, It was a joke!!
Just like Ann Coulter, I can say:
Someone needs to put rat poison in Chuck’s Ensure.
And then say:
Just joking.
All you need to guess is:
Am I, like Ann Coulter really joking?
183
Alright Klake, you asked for it: where’s the proof that the Iraqi military was amassing on our borders? Where were their destroyers? Steaming towards the US? How about their Air Force?
Just because the president says that he has the authority to wage a “preemtive strike” doesn’t make it legal, you know.
Comment by Roger Rabbit— 1/30/06 @ 6:57 pm
“Sorry, dude, but Eyman gets paid and Goldy doesn’t.
Eyman = mercenary, whore, hired gun, pimp, bloodsucker
Goldy = public spirited do-gooder”
Being a whore isn’t always about money. I’d say Goldy is a whore for attention. I also think that’s part of Eyman’s motivation, as well. Given your narrow minded world view I’m not surprised by your opinions of Eyman and Goldy. As I’ve said before, I think Goldy is much more like Eyman than he’s willing to admit.
Tim Eyeman is a filthy, stinking, pig who should die in a fire crash in his SUV! How about an initiative denying rights to whitebread x-tian str8 assholes!
“Does this new law protect a Straight Man or Woman from being discriminated against by a Gay or Lesbian business or Landlord? Just Curious?”
Of course it does. Why wouldn’t it … doesn’t everyone have a sexual orientation?
Goldy,
I istened to your 30 seconds of attempted fame yesterday.
Quite frankly you should have started off by thanking Mr. Eyman for giving you an identity.
Secondly, your voice sounds like you are waiting for the other ball to drop.
Finally, you were dismissied as the isignificant loser that you are. It’s good to see that they recognized you as a crackpot.
Mark The Republican @ 126
-Special privilege means that the Excel crowd goes into high gear. Every business and gummint agency will have “targets” on spreadsheets covering everything from hiring, to promotions to pay and everything else. They call them “targets”, but they are quotas pure and simple.-
Where in anti-discrimination bill that just passed the legislature do you see any language regarding “targets?” Or, are you just making this one up, too?
I still think MTR is just faking it for attention. Nobody could be this stupid.
JCH said
How did the AIDs virus get from African monkeys to African blacks? Perhaps a little African “Tookie Williams love”? Well, what an inpressive culture!! Kind of like Detroit!!
I am a follower of Christ, but you JCH, can go to Hell. I wouldn’t spit on you to stop a fever you had.
Comment by Donnageddon — 1/30/06 @ 10:02 pm [Er, Don. I “axed” a question. Answer it!!]
Don, I STILL don’t understand how the AIDS virus got from African monkeys to young black males in the Sudan. Or Ziare? Or Zimbabwe? Help me here! I bet YOU know the answer!
There are all kinds of ways that the monkeys could have infected humans, JCH. Why is it that the only one you’re concerned about is the one that mirrors your sexual fantasies?
Wow, JCH. You found a way to be racist and homophobic in one sentence.
I’m sure the GOP is proud of you!
MOMUS LETS BE FAIR TO GOLDY HOW WOULD YOU SOUND WITH YOUR NUTS IN A VICE.
Eyman must be low on cash.
Tim Eyman has already demonstrated that its all about the money for him. Everything he’s offered up for the ballot in 2006 is a proposal seeking a big money donor. The highest bidders will get his attention.
If he succeeds at putting a measure on the ballot to take away hard won discrimination protections he’ll bring large numbers of voters to the polls in the greater Seattle region and in the more urbanized parts of the state.
That will improve the odds that Maria Cantwell will win big. The Sheriff will be in big trouble. And it is highly likely that at least four GOP Senate seats will swing Democrat in Seattle and Tacoma suburbs and perhaps more Dems elected in places like Whatcom County and Spokane (where a very solid democrat will take on Brad Benson, who voted to deny people basic rights because “gay people drive better cars than the rest of us” – making for a very solid Democrat majority in the next state Senate. The state House will probably grow its majority under any condition.
Eyman will not succeed at restoring discrimination to the state’s laws. Taking away hard won rights is extremely difficult. The vast majority of voters in our state don’t think it should be OK to fire someone just because they are gay. And people know the differenced between getting a job and getting married.
Tim Eyman will deserve whatever brand is now attached to him because he’s all about grabbing headlines to solicit donors to live the lifestyle he’s grown accustomed to making hundreds of thousands of dollars playing politics with people’s lives.