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Poll Analysis: Playing with questionable polls

by Darryl — Monday, 11/7/16, 9:28 pm

Clinton
Trump
84.5% probability of winning
15.5% probability of winning
Mean of 282 electoral votes
Mean of 256 electoral votes


Electoral College Map

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Electoral College Map

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Yesterday’s analysis showed Sec. Hillary Clinton (D) leading Donald Trump (R) with 290 EVs to 248 EVs. If the election was held yesterday, we would expect Clinton to win with an 86.8% chance.

Since that analysis there have been about 28 new polls release that satisfy my inclusion criteria. I should point out, that the new polls include eight new polls from Remington Research (R) and four from Trafalgar Group (R). If the significance of this escapes you, read Goldy’s post.

One of the things I am going to do in this analysis is do two analyses: one with these two pollsters included, and one that excludes all Remington and Trafalgar polls. Pick the one you wish.

Which one is right? It is hard to say. I hate accusing a pollster of producing bogus polls. I’ve had numerous people complain about including this poll or that poll, and I ignore them. The entire premise of my effort is that by aggregating polls broadly, any “house effects” will cancel. But the oddities of Remington are clear. Trafalgar polls also seem quite dodgy.

Okay…Here we go. Scroll down or click here for the alternative analysis.

Analysis with All Polls

Today, after 100,000 simulated elections, Clinton wins 84,508 times and Trump wins 15,492 times (including the 2,449 ties). Clinton received (on average) 282 (-8) to Trump’s 256 (+8) electoral votes. In an election held now, Clinton would have a 84.5% probability of winning and Trump would have a 15.5% probability of winning. Thus, Clinton slips a bit, but the race isn’t changing much.

The long term trends in this race can be seen from a series of elections simulated every seven days using polls from 07 Nov 2015 to 07 Nov 2016, and including polls from the preceding ten days (FAQ).

An animated sequence of maps and electoral vote distributions can be seen here

Here is the distribution of electoral votes [FAQ] from the simulations:

Ten most probable electoral vote outcomes for Clinton (full distribution here):

  • 276 electoral votes with a 9.03% probability
  • 275 electoral votes with a 7.47% probability
  • 272 electoral votes with a 4.95% probability
  • 273 electoral votes with a 4.92% probability
  • 274 electoral votes with a 4.75% probability
  • 271 electoral votes with a 3.59% probability
  • 305 electoral votes with a 3.09% probability
  • 304 electoral votes with a 2.55% probability
  • 269 electoral votes with a 2.45% probability
  • 302 electoral votes with a 2.45% probability

After 100,000 simulations:

  • Clinton wins 84.5%, Trump wins 15.5%.
  • Average (SE) EC votes for Clinton: 282.3 (16.1)
  • Average (SE) EC votes for Trump: 255.7 (16.1)
  • Median (95% CI) EC votes for Clinton: 276 (255, 318)
  • Median (95% CI) EC votes for Trump: 262 (220, 283)

Each column of this table shows the electoral vote total aggregated by different criteria for the probability of winning a state (Safe=100%, Strong=90%+, Leans=60%+, Weak=50%+):

Threshold Safe + Strong + Leans + Weak
Safe Clinton 119
Strong Clinton 139 258
Leans Clinton 18 18 276
Weak Clinton 0 0 0 276
Weak Trump 0 0 0 262
Leans Trump 36 36 262
Strong Trump 101 226
Safe Trump 125

This table summarizes results by state. Click on the poll count to see the individual polls included for the state.

1 0 EC # Total % % Clinton Trump
2 8 Votes polls Votes Clinton Trump % wins % wins
AL 9 1* 2400 40.0 60.0 0.0 100.0
AK 3 1* 360 52.2 47.8 73.1 26.9
AZ 11 6 3965 47.4 52.6 1.0 99.0
AR 6 1* 556 37.9 62.1 0.0 100.0
CA 55 1 675 61.6 38.4 100.0 0.0
CO 9 7 11120 52.4 47.6 100.0 0.0
CT 7 1* 847 58.8 41.2 100.0 0.0
DE 3 1* 618 62.9 37.1 100.0 0.0
DC 3 1* 1131 76.5 23.5 100.0 0.0
FL 29 10 10074 49.6 50.4 27.1 72.9
GA 16 6 5392 47.8 52.2 1.0 99.0
HI 4 1* 801 61.9 38.1 100.0 0.0
ID 4 1* 774 30.9 69.1 0.0 100.0
IL 20 1 470 56.4 43.6 97.5 2.5
IN 11 2 868 43.7 56.3 0.4 99.6
IA 6 3 1715 47.9 52.1 10.9 89.1
KS 6 2 826 41.2 58.8 0.0 100.0
KY 8 2* 1267 38.4 61.6 0.0 100.0
LA 8 4* 2145 42.1 57.9 0.0 100.0
ME 2 1 660 52.3 47.7 78.6 21.4
ME1 1 1 345 53.3 46.7 80.1 19.9
ME2 1 1 323 51.1 48.9 62.6 37.4
MD 10 2* 1062 70.0 30.0 100.0 0.0
MA 11 1 342 68.4 31.6 100.0 0.0
MI 16 8 5958 51.5 48.5 94.2 5.8
MN 10 2* 1111 55.3 44.7 99.5 0.5
MS 6 1* 987 42.9 57.1 0.2 99.8
MO 10 6 4533 43.2 56.8 0.0 100.0
MT 3 2* 1345 46.1 53.9 1.6 98.4
NE 2 1* 594 34.5 65.5 0.0 100.0
NE1 1 1* 191 35.6 64.4 0.3 99.7
NE2 1 1* 207 44.9 55.1 14.6 85.4
NE3 1 1* 199 23.6 76.4 0.0 100.0
NV 6 6 5417 48.6 51.4 6.9 93.1
NH 4 8 4865 50.9 49.1 80.4 19.6
NJ 14 1 617 56.1 43.9 98.2 1.8
NM 5 3 9005 51.3 48.7 95.3 4.7
NY 29 1 525 60.0 40.0 100.0 0.0
NC 15 7 7304 48.8 51.2 8.2 91.8
ND 3 1* 300 42.7 57.3 3.3 96.7
OH 18 5 5722 48.5 51.5 6.7 93.3
OK 7 1* 477 33.3 66.7 0.0 100.0
OR 7 1* 378 54.8 45.2 89.9 10.1
PA 20 12 12143 51.3 48.7 98.3 1.7
RI 4 1* 504 61.9 38.1 100.0 0.0
SC 9 2* 1509 42.9 57.1 0.0 100.0
SD 3 3* 1857 43.5 56.5 0.0 100.0
TN 11 2* 1185 43.0 57.0 0.1 99.9
TX 38 3 2489 43.7 56.3 0.0 100.0
UT 6 4 1912 40.8 59.2 0.0 100.0
VT 3 1* 437 69.1 30.9 100.0 0.0
VA 13 8 8438 52.0 48.0 99.7 0.3
WA 12 1 598 57.0 43.0 99.3 0.7
WV 5 1* 440 31.8 68.2 0.0 100.0
WI 10 5 6637 53.4 46.6 100.0 0.0
WY 3 1* 563 25.6 74.4 0.0 100.0

* An older poll was used (i.e. no recent polls exist).

Analysis without Remington and Trafalgar

Scroll up or click here for the standard analysis.

This analysis excludes all Remington and Trafalgar polls.

Clinton
Trump
98.7% probability of winning
1.3% probability of winning
Mean of 310 electoral votes
Mean of 228 electoral votes


Electoral College Map

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Electoral College Map

Georgia Alaska Arizona Arkansas California Colorado Delaware Connecticut Florida Mississippi Alabama Hawaii Idaho Illinois Indiana Iowa Kansas Kentucky Louisiana Maine Maryland Massachusetts Michigan Minnesota Missouri Montana Nebraska Nevada New Hampshire New Jersey New Mexico New York North Carolina North Dakota Ohio Oklahoma Oregon Pennsylvania Rhode Island South Carolina South Dakota Tennessee Texas Utah Vermont Virginia D.C. Washington West Virginia Wisconsin Wyoming

Now, after 100,000 simulated elections, Clinton wins 98,707 times and Trump wins 1,293 times (including the 231 ties). Clinton received (on average) 310 to Trump’s 228 electoral votes. In an election held now, Clinton would have a 98.7% probability of winning and Trump would have a 1.3% probability of winning.

This is quite a stark difference. If Remington and Trafalgar are trying to fuck with the poll aggregators, they have likely succeeded!

Here is the distribution of electoral votes [FAQ] from the simulations:

Ten most probable electoral vote outcomes for Clinton (full distribution here):

  • 305 electoral votes with a 5.09% probability
  • 320 electoral votes with a 4.35% probability
  • 304 electoral votes with a 3.99% probability
  • 319 electoral votes with a 3.44% probability
  • 311 electoral votes with a 2.93% probability
  • 302 electoral votes with a 2.79% probability
  • 317 electoral votes with a 2.76% probability
  • 301 electoral votes with a 2.69% probability
  • 303 electoral votes with a 2.54% probability
  • 310 electoral votes with a 2.49% probability

After 100,000 simulations:

  • Clinton wins 98.7%, Trump wins 1.3%.
  • Average (SE) EC votes for Clinton: 309.9 (16.2)
  • Average (SE) EC votes for Trump: 228.1 (16.2)
  • Median (95% CI) EC votes for Clinton: 310 (274, 339)
  • Median (95% CI) EC votes for Trump: 228 (199, 264)

Each column of this table shows the electoral vote total aggregated by different criteria for the probability of winning a state (Safe=100%, Strong=90%+, Leans=60%+, Weak=50%+):

Threshold Safe + Strong + Leans + Weak
Safe Clinton 109
Strong Clinton 156 265
Leans Clinton 40 40 305
Weak Clinton 0 0 0 305
Weak Trump 15 15 15 233
Leans Trump 40 40 218
Strong Trump 60 178
Safe Trump 118

This table summarizes results by state. Click on the poll count to see the individual polls included for the state.

1 0 EC # Total % % Clinton Trump
2 8 Votes polls Votes Clinton Trump % wins % wins
AL 9 1* 2400 40.0 60.0 0.0 100.0
AK 3 1* 360 52.2 47.8 72.4 27.6
AZ 11 6 3965 47.4 52.6 1.0 99.0
AR 6 1* 556 37.9 62.1 0.0 100.0
CA 55 1 675 61.6 38.4 100.0 0.0
CO 9 4 7703 53.2 46.8 100.0 0.0
CT 7 1* 847 58.8 41.2 100.0 0.0
DE 3 1* 618 62.9 37.1 100.0 0.0
DC 3 1* 1131 76.5 23.5 100.0 0.0
FL 29 6 4848 51.2 48.8 87.8 12.2
GA 16 5 4180 48.2 51.8 5.0 95.0
HI 4 1* 801 61.9 38.1 100.0 0.0
ID 4 1* 774 30.9 69.1 0.0 100.0
IL 20 1 470 56.4 43.6 97.1 2.9
IN 11 2 868 43.7 56.3 0.3 99.7
IA 6 3 1715 47.9 52.1 11.1 88.9
KS 6 2 826 41.2 58.8 0.0 100.0
KY 8 2* 1267 38.4 61.6 0.0 100.0
LA 8 4* 2145 42.1 57.9 0.0 100.0
ME 2 1 660 52.3 47.7 80.0 20.0
ME1 1 1 345 53.3 46.7 81.6 18.4
ME2 1 1 323 51.1 48.9 61.7 38.3
MD 10 2* 1062 70.0 30.0 100.0 0.0
MA 11 1 342 68.4 31.6 100.0 0.0
MI 16 7 4806 52.1 47.9 97.7 2.3
MN 10 2* 1111 55.3 44.7 99.3 0.7
MS 6 1* 987 42.9 57.1 0.1 99.9
MO 10 5 2983 43.1 56.9 0.0 100.0
MT 3 2* 1345 46.1 53.9 2.0 97.9
NE 2 1* 594 34.5 65.5 0.0 100.0
NE1 1 1* 191 35.6 64.4 0.2 99.8
NE2 1 1* 207 44.9 55.1 15.2 84.8
NE3 1 1* 199 23.6 76.4 0.0 100.0
NV 6 3 2020 48.7 51.3 20.2 79.8
NH 4 8 4865 50.9 49.1 79.1 20.9
NJ 14 1 617 56.1 43.9 98.4 1.6
NM 5 3 9005 51.3 48.7 96.0 4.0
NY 29 1 525 60.0 40.0 99.9 0.1
NC 15 4 2735 49.7 50.3 42.1 57.9
ND 3 1* 300 42.7 57.3 4.4 95.6
OH 18 3 2366 48.3 51.7 12.4 87.6
OK 7 1* 477 33.3 66.7 0.0 100.0
OR 7 1* 378 54.8 45.2 90.4 9.6
PA 20 9 7368 51.9 48.1 98.9 1.1
RI 4 1* 504 61.9 38.1 100.0 0.0
SC 9 1* 380 47.4 52.6 22.7 77.3
SD 3 2* 909 43.5 56.5 0.1 99.9
TN 11 2* 1185 43.0 57.0 0.0 100.0
TX 38 3 2489 43.7 56.3 0.0 100.0
UT 6 3 974 39.2 60.8 0.0 100.0
VT 3 1* 437 69.1 30.9 100.0 0.0
VA 13 6 4663 52.3 47.7 98.8 1.2
WA 12 1 598 57.0 43.0 99.3 0.7
WV 5 1* 440 31.8 68.2 0.0 100.0
WI 10 3 2630 53.0 47.0 98.6 1.4
WY 3 1* 563 25.6 74.4 0.0 100.0

* An older poll was used (i.e. no recent polls exist).

Details of the methods are given in the FAQ.

The most recent analysis in this match-up can be found from this page.

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  1. 1

    Angela Marx spews:

    Monday, 11/7/16 at 10:32 pm

    I love those cartographic maps. They show people who are otherwise not very tuned-in to politics the reason why all of the Red/Blue maps on television aren’t worth looking at.

    Because it’s not just about how many states are red or blue, it’s about how many people are in those states, and how much value their votes have.

  2. 2

    Czechsaaz spews:

    Tuesday, 11/8/16 at 9:13 am

    Well now we know something about the Trafalher poll via Breitbart.

    Trafalher CEO Unskewed it for us!

    He keeps his questionnaires limited to a minute or two, relies mostly on computer-delivered phone questionnaires and he probes for hidden preferences by asking people who their neighbors are supporting.

  3. 3

    Ura Nass spews:

    Wednesday, 11/9/16 at 11:29 am

    Guess they were more legit than you wanted to admit, you’re assumptions were clearly wrong.

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