Since I usually skip holidays for Open Threads, I’ll just give you a quick President’s Day rant now: Basically, we’ve had some terrible presidents. John Tyler? That motherfucker joined the Confederacy the first chance he got. We don’t need to celebrate the people who pushed slavery in this country and then committed treason when the slavery wasn’t enough for them. Richard Nixon? Are we celebrating Watergate or the bombing of Cambodia? Andrew fucking Johnson? Maybe we should rename the holiday Presidents Are A Mixed Bag At Best Day.
Democratic Debate Open Thread
I’m at the Roanoke Tavern this evening with a couple of friends to watch the debate (starts at 6pm local). Please join us if you wish. Otherwise, join the fun in the comment thread.
I’ll post some commentary, snark, and (mostly) other people’s excellent Tweets.
Enjoy!
5:59: I’ll be watching the debate on PBS rather than CNN. Just a personal choice (and a choice endorsed by the bar management).
6:03: Opening shot of the candidate’s backs…looking for the secret radio receivers strapped to Clinton’s back…
6:07: Sander’s opening statement “Yuuuge count”: 1
6:09: Shorter Hillary, “I’m just like him.”
Who would have thunk that PBS would cut quicker to commercial break than the cable nets.
— michaelscherer (@michaelscherer) February 12, 2016
Winner of the debate so far: Commercials.
— Chris Cillizza (@TheFix) February 12, 2016
I thought Hillary loved the gays, why won’t she let them dress her?
— Ana Marie Cox (@anamariecox) February 12, 2016
6:21: Hillary is sure “we” will have the political capital to raise taxes on wealthy. Don’t think so, but probably better than Sanders.
.@BernieSanders answer to health care question suggests Coverage For All will be delivered by unicorns.
— Paul Singer (@singernews) February 12, 2016
O'Malley is good tonight.
— Jeffrey Goldberg (@JeffreyGoldberg) February 12, 2016
Ok look I made a graphic so you can see how important this is. POTUS –> SCOTUS. pic.twitter.com/b2JHPqEI2j
— Hanna Brooks Olsen (@mshannabrooks) February 10, 2016
Glad someone is keeping track of this. https://t.co/ck7Dsf0DdJ
— Chris Cillizza (@TheFix) February 12, 2016
Debate needs to start focusing on where the two disagree. That's what the debate format is for. Let them litigate differences.
— Chris Cillizza (@TheFix) February 12, 2016
6:43: Come’on, when is Bernie going to go all Christie on Hillary?
6:46: Will someone PLEASE ask the candidates about their position on waterboarding?!?
I understand why he didn’t, but I really wish Biden was a third person on this stage right now.
— Samuel Minter (@abulsme) February 12, 2016
Sanders is doing better than Clinton tonight. More passion. More compelling. Even if Hillary’s pragmatism may be more realistic.
— Samuel Minter (@abulsme) February 12, 2016
I'm confused as to what's happening right now on PBS. Mid-debate commentary and highlights? Is this the halftime show? -cd
— PurpleStrats/Chris (@PurpleStrats) February 12, 2016
Hard to make jokes when two intelligent people are talking and not saying things like "The Chinese are tremendous people. Let's waterboard."
— Jen Kirkman (@JenKirkman) February 12, 2016
PBS should've held a fundraiser. Early: "Your donation will help us return to the debate. Later: "Your donation can stop this debate."
— Darryl Holman (@hominidviews) February 12, 2016
tens of thousands of young bernie supporters are totally lost right now during the Kissinger portion of this debate
— Sam Stein (@samsteinhp) February 12, 2016
Gotta admit, I didn't expect Kissinger-bashing tonight.
— Douglas Heye (@DougHeye) February 12, 2016
Have things really reached the point where we're debating Henry Kissinger? #WhatDecadeIsThis
— HowardKurtz (@HowardKurtz) February 12, 2016
7:50: Man…Democrats SUCK at negative campaigning.
Learn How WA Is Kicking the NRA’s Ass, on the Latest Episode of “The Other Washington”
Last week I made my triumphant return to the podwaves with the release of “The Other Washington,” a new podcast on politics and policy from me and my co-workers at Civic Ventures. This week I’d like to invite you to listen to Episode 2: Gun Responsibility, through the convenient player embedded above.
Of our first batch of episodes, this is the one I’m proudest of, including a harrowing account from a survivor of the Jewish Federation shooting, plus a firsthand report from inside the White House on the heart-wrenching truth behind President Obama’s tears.
If you like what you hear, please, please go to iTunes, subscribe to the podcast, and leave us a review. The more subscriptions and reviews we get, the higher we get pushed up the iTunes charts, and the more listeners are likely to find us. Thanks!
Open Thread 2-10
Congrats to Senator Sanders for the win in New Hampshire. I think that puts him in the lead in the (non-super) delegate count by 2. I have some family in New Hampshire and they’re either super conservative or much more liberal than me. So based on that small, unrepresentative, sample size, the result isn’t too surprising.
Election night edition of Drinking Liberally — Seattle
Tonight’s the first primary of the 2016 presidential election season, and there are some local elections happening as well. So please join us for an evening of election returns and primary politics over a pint at the Seattle Chapter of Drinking liberally.
We meet tonight and every Tuesday at the Roanoke Park Place Tavern, 2409 10th Ave E, Seattle. You’ll find us in the small room at the back of the tavern. We start at 8:00pm.
Can’t make it to Seattle tonight? Check out one of the other DL meetings happening this week. Tonight, the nation’s newest DL addition, the Federal Way chapter meets along with the Tri-Cities and Redmond chapters. The Kent chapter meets on Thursday. And next Monday, the Aberdeen and Yakima chapters meet.
There are 187 chapters of Living Liberally, including nineteen in Washington state, three in Oregon and one in Idaho. Find—or go out and start—a chapter near you.
Open Thread 2-8
In many Washington State jurisdictions, there’s an election tomorrow. Get it postmarked by tomorrow. Or drop it off. Here are the locations for King County. I voted for both of the Seattle levies. I have to say though: I’m not a parent, but I paid enough attention when the latest round of school closures went through to find the we have to reopen schools because who could have predicted we’d need capacity arguments pretty ridiculous.
HA Bible Study
Leviticus 18:17
Do not have sexual relations with both a woman and her daughter. Do not have sexual relations with either her son’s daughter or her daughter’s daughter; they are her close relatives. That is wickedness.
Discuss.
Friday Night Multimedia Extravaganza!
Congressional hits and misses of the week.
Straight outta options:
Mental Floss: Fifteen facts about coffee.
Bill Maher: Lies are the new truth.
What led to Flint, MI’s poisoned water.
Stop making guns so sick.
Minute Physics: How to discover new particles.
I Oh Wha???
- PsychoSuperMom: Iowa Caucus Song
- Trevor Noah: Ted Cruz’s Iowa caucus win.
- Stephen: Everyone was a winner in Iowa except the losers.
- Kids analyze the candidates on the eve of the IA caucuses.
- Jimmy Fallon: Trump spins second place, “the Deuce is loose”.
- Sam Seder: Trump is the skank you bring home. Period.
- Mark Fiore: Corn Candidates.
- Sam Seder: Obama’s speech about inclusion was divisive?!?
- Harry Reid: Did you see diversity in Iowa?
- Young Turks: Iowa drives Paul out of campaign.
- Red State Update: Trump and Sanders lose Iowa.
- What is the difference between a Caucus and a Primary?
- David Pakman: Media falsely blames Hillary’s Iowa win on “coin flips”
- Sam Seder: Did Ted Cruz sabotage Ben Carson?
- Jimmy Dore visits Jeb!’s Iowa headquarters:
- Trevor Noah: Counting votes in popcorn containers at the Iowa caucuses
- Seth Meyers: A closer look at Trump and Iowa
- Young Turks: Trump accuses Cruz of cheating.
- Stephen: Hungry for Power Games, Iowa edition.
- Watch a Democratic Caucus in 360
- And watch a Republican caucus in 360
- Young Turks: Why Ted Cruz beat Donald Trump in Iowa
Twelve minutes of Right-wing nutjob Cathy McMorris Rodgers (R-WA-5) talking politics.
Stephen and Samantha Bee try out some lady euphemisms.
What the West gets wrong about Muslim women.
Obama: Employment is down to 4.9%.
Young Turks: “Pro-life” activist proves she’s not really pro-life at all.
Pap and Farron Cousins: Lunatic Michele Bachmann says Obama is about to reveal himself as Anti-Christ.
Larry Wilmore and friends: Anger and politics.
Conan meets his censor.
The 2016 Conservative Crazy Car:
- Kimmel: Jesus reads quotes of G.O.P. candidates.
- David Pakman: The best and worst of Rand Paul.
- Meet the GOP Frontrunners
- Sam Seder: Jeb begs for applause.
- Young Turks: Jeb to audience, “please clap”.
- Farron Cousins: Jeb begs audience for applause.
- David Pakman: Jeb begs for applause.
- David Pakman: Reporters visibly perplexed by Sarah Palin’s explanation of Trump’s abortion flip-flop.
- Fifteen stupidest lies from the last Republican debate
- Young Turks: Trump, “Who told you to call me sexist?”
- David Pakman: The best (worst) of Carly Fiorina.
- Christie refers to Rubio as the Boy in the Bubble.
- Thom: Why Ted Cruz is unfit to be President.
- David Pakman: Rand Paul bites the dust.
- Sam Seder: Jeb Bush’s childhood seems a little troubling.
- Friday Hot takes on the GOP candidates.
Mental Floss: Misconceptions about famous companies.
Madame President.
David Hawkings Whiteboard: Here comes the budget:
Follow the money: The chemical industry writes a law.
Farron Cousins: Republicans destroy government to prove government doesn’t work.
VSauce: Math Magic.
One of these people will be President.
Thom: The Good, the Bad & the Very, Very Depascently Ugly!.
Martin Shkreli invokes his fifth amendment rights before Congressional oversight committee.
Space Station Live: African American History Month.
Last week’s Friday Night Multimedia Extravaganza can be found here.
Omigod, I’ve Got a New Podcast!
Missed the mellifluous sounds of my whiny high-pitched nasal voice? Then you’ll want to tune in to the premier episode of my new podcast: The Other Washington!
Each episode, co-host Paul Constant and I and the rest of the troublemakers at Civic Skunkworks will take you on a deep dive into a single issue, exploring the nexus between policy and politics from a uniquely Washington State perspective. Our first topic? The $15 minimum wage, of course! How did $15 go from “insane” idea to political reality, and what does this teach us about the rest of the progressive agenda? Tune in and find out.
Huge thanks to our producer, Tina Nole of Larj Media, for making us sound like more than just a couple of opinionated assholes crowding around a mic. We’re still learning by doing, and I expect the podcast to evolve over time, but if you agree with me that it’s a damn good start, then please go to iTunes (or wherever you get your podcasts) and leave us a good review. (Or if you hate it, just leave a nasty comment in this thread.)
Open Thread 2-5
It is always amazing to me when I read things like this. “I’m old enough to remember the shock, replaced quickly by compassion fatigue, when urban homelessness first energed as a problem in the early ’80s,. Before then, hard as it is to imagine now, cities didn’t have homelessness issues – just a few random drunks and what were then quaintly called hoboes.” Geov isn’t the first person I’ve read with similar observations, and while I believe it, it’s tough to internalize. What seems like an intractable problem that has been there forever is actually a bit younger than me.
Low Energy
Donald Trump has been taunting Jeb! as being low energy. Judging from the need to add a high-energy punctuation mark after his name, I’m thinking that The Donald might be right on this one.
And this is kind of embarassing:
It brings back memories of this 2008 GOP low energy superstar:
On the other hand, Ronald Reagan was pretty low energy so it isn’t like energy level is all that Trump cracks it up to be.
And at least Jeb! doesn’t suffer from an abnormal chromosomal makeup.
Open Thread 2-3
This (autoplays) is a few days old (they make Iowa Caucus predictions) but I just listened to it yesterday on my way to Drinking Liberally. It got me thinking about the foreign policy philosophies of the Democratic candidates. I would dispute that Clinton’s foreign policy philosophy is just about competence. I’d say that women’s rights are human rights was an animating idea during her tenure at State and in the Senate.
I asked a few people at Drinking Liberally how they would sum up Sanders’ foreign policy. And we found some interesting things about his record, but I don’t know if it’s predictive for voters or for the bureaucracy if he gets elected. I’d very much like to know more about his foreign policy, but I haven’t seen it yet. It’s one state down, so we may well see something that crystallizes it going forward.
(this has been edited a bit to make it clear I’m just talking about foreign policy)
Drinking Liberally — Seattle
Huh…can’t imagine what people want to talk about tonight. If you think of something, please join us for an evening of politics and conversation over a pint at the Seattle Chapter of Drinking liberally.
We meet tonight and every Tuesday at the Roanoke Park Place Tavern, 2409 10th Ave E, Seattle. You’ll find us in the small room at the back of the tavern. We start at 8:00pm.
Can’t make it to Seattle tonight? Check out one of the other DL meetings happening this week. The Long Beach, Tri-Cities and West Seattle chapters also meet tonight. The Lakewood chapter meets on Wednesday. And on Thursday, the Tacoma chapter meets.
There are 186 chapters of Living Liberally, including eighteen in Washington state, three in Oregon and one in Idaho. Find—or go out and start—a chapter near you.
Open Thread 2-1
Anyone had a chance to read Nick Licata’s new book yet? I have not, but I’m still excited to see him at SPL if I can get there on time. And I’m very glad that he’s having a post-retirement public life.
HA Bible Study: Leviticus 11:5
Leviticus 11:5
And the rock badger, because it chews the cud but does not part the hoof, is unclean to you.
Discuss.
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