Open Thread 7/8

- I don’t get that far North much these days, but when I was younger, the Wayne Tunnel was always kind of fun to ride through. It’s nice to see they’re putting a mural on it.

– Another day, another shooting.

– So, what’s the over/under on the The Helping Working Families Afford Child Care Act actually becoming law?

The only thing more drilling will guarantee is more profits for oil companies. And more environmental trashing.

– I’m pro saving Night Owl service, but it’s too bad it seems to come at the price of fuck rail to Ballard (or not; see the comments).

What You Need To Know Before You Buy Weed In Washington

– Happy anniversary to the creation of the Cedar River Watershed. You don’t see very many votes as lopsided as 1,875 to 51 these days.

West Seattle Summerfest is coming up.


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    ChefJoe spews:

    Psst. The study on light rail was completed and some of the excess money is being allocated to preserve night owl.
    Contrary to the Seattle Times’ report (and our follow-up) that a Sound Transit study of rail connectingBallard to downtown was being sacrificed to fund bus-rapid transit service (the Times’ transportation reporter, Mike Lindblom, wrote on Twitter, “Murray plan: preserve three @kcmetrobus night-owl routes by spending less on Ballard-spur transit studies”), SDOT staffers say there are no plans to cut back on studying light rail or any other transit connections between Ballard and downtown Seattle.

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    MikeBoyScout spews:

    The Republican party has chosen Cleveland, Ohio as the site for its 2016 nominating convention.

    You may remember that Ohio is the state where the Republican governor implemented ObamaCare by expanding Medicaid unilaterally despite the Republican legislature’s stripping the ObamaCare Medicaid expansion from the budget.

    Glad they rewarded the pro-ObamaCare state. The Republican convention is a fine time and place to trumpet the value of what nearly every Republican describes as horrible.

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    Nope. spews:

    Here is all you need to know about buying pot…don’t, because the world doesn’t need another dumb-shit stoner.

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    zzippy spews:

    Wow, the article by shallowcogitations that was referenced here by the link, “The only thing more drilling will guarantee is more profits for oil companies. And more environmental trashing”, is amazingly simple to understand, and leads to the obvious conclusion that all oil corporations, even those who might call themselves “U.S.” or “American” companies, will make a profit on the backs of U.S. residents without batting an eye.

    That, as the referenced post states, makes McMorris Rodgers look foolish. I’m not intending to name-call here, but I’d say that an apt description of McMorris Rodgers as it relates to the reference and recent public statements about lowering the price of fuel to get people work qualifies her quite well for the title of useful idiot (for the oil corporations).

    But then again, that’s just what Republicans do.

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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @6 What the average American gets from more drilling is gas to keep his car running. I didn’t say cheap gas. You can have more drilling, more domestic oil, and gas to keep your car running if you’re willing to pay $4/gal. for gas. If you’re only willing to pay $2/gal., you’d better plan on walking or riding a horse.

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    Teabagger spews:

    @10 – Dump the car that gets 20mpg and buy one that gets 40mpg, and then you might be closer to $2.00 gas. And you would cut emmissions in half too. Why aren’t americans more responsible. This is a moral issue. But they’d rather complain about the queers. Proves they don’t know what a fucking bible is. The only time they know what a bible is is to tell someone else they are being bad, never themselves. The bible is nothing more than a feel-good-about-myself book.

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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @11 You won’t get $2 gas under any circumstances, because it costs more than that to get oil out of the ground.

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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Why we have a sluggish economy.

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: It’s about wages, dummies! Your employees are also your customers. Keeping their wages low means keeping your sales low.

    Even some businesses have figured this out, and have given workers raises. But retrograde Republicans won’t be satisfied until they’ve taken us back to the 1890s.

    Why does anyone vote for those neaderthals?

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    In the latest Snowden news:

    The individuals appear on an NSA spreadsheet in the Snowden archives called “FISA recap”—short for the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. Under that law, the Justice Department must convince a judge with the top-secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court that there is probable cause to believe that American targets are not only agents of an international terrorist organization or other foreign power, but also “are or may be” engaged in or abetting espionage, sabotage, or terrorism. The authorizations must be renewed by the court, usually every 90 days for U.S. citizens….

    The five Americans whose email accounts were monitored by the NSA and FBI have all led highly public, outwardly exemplary lives. All five vehemently deny any involvement in terrorism or espionage, and none advocates violent jihad or is known to have been implicated in any crime, despite years of intense scrutiny by the government and the press. Some have even climbed the ranks of the U.S. national security and foreign policy establishments.

    “I just don’t know why,” says Gill, whose AOL and Yahoo! email accounts were monitored while he was a Republican candidate for the Virginia House of Delegates. “I’ve done everything in my life to be patriotic. I served in the Navy, served in the government, was active in my community—I’ve done everything that a good citizen, in my opinion, should do.”

    Our most moronic of trolls of course would have a simple answer for that: the Republican Faisal Gill is an adherent to “the religion of peace” which is short for future material for barcalounged, islamophic Fakes News Channel watchers.

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    headless lucy spews:

    re 13 — What if your employer is a Christian Scientist and opposed to all medical treatment on religious grounds? Under the Hobby Lobby ruling, you could conceivably be forced to pay for medical insurance that only covers praying to Jesus for a miracle — which is what you’ll have to do to obtain a brain.

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    Teabagger spews:

    @23 and you will have to beg for other people to pray for you. I saw some billboard with the request to “pray for me”. I ask, why you a free loader and you can’t pray for yourself? Stop relying on other people to pray for you, do it yourself.

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    Puddybud - The One The Only spews:


    The person who died by the drug injection worked for Apple and Google… Big time lefty orgs!

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    Puddybud - The One The Only spews:

    Here’s one rujaxoff will “cheer”: – Truly an idiot!

    “The one thing we are going to do during this work period, sooner rather than later, is to ensure that women’s lives are not determine by virtue of five white men,” Reid said. “This Hobby Lobby decision is outrageous and we are going to do something about it. People are going to have to walk down here and vote.”

    So what does race have to do with it? It’s more of a gratuitous vilification of Clarence Thomas. Standard poisonous demagoguery DUMMOCRETIN swipes at the AJOTSC!

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    Puddybud - The One The Only spews:

    Obummer would rather hang with rich DUMMOCRETIN lawyers in Dallas than visit illegal alien children whom his policies caused to come to America illegally!

    Optics doesn’t matter to Obummer! DUMMOCRETIN cash does though! Henry Cuellar (DUMMOCRETIN) Texas has had it with Obummer! Good for Congresscritter Cuellar!

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    Puddybud - The One The Only spews:

    Commentary from the empty scumbag link

    Don’t get carried away in praising him folks. This is similar to David Duke volunteering at a soup kitchen in Harlem one day so he can say “See, I’m not racist” whenever he gets in a debate.

    Typical DUMMOCRETIN hyperbole!

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    GS spews:

    Hows the Ex Mayor of New Orleans doing these days.

    “Ex-New Orleans mayor Ray Nagin sentenced to 10 years”

    Corruption from the top down!

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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Guns Don’t Kill People Dep’t

    Six people — 2 adults and 4 kids — have been killed in a domestic incident in Spring, Texas, tonight. Police have the shooter surrounded and he’s holding a gun to his head.

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: Hell, why not make it seven for good luck. Go ahead, make my day, punk! Heh, just kidding, that’s a Clint Eastwood movie line.

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    From the TPM article cited above:

    Glenn Beck plans to bring soccer balls and hot meals to migrant children this month, his career be damned.

    “I’ve never taken a position more deadly to my career than this — and I have never, ever taken a position that is more right than this,” an emotional Beck said Tuesday on his show on TheBlaze TV.

    “Everybody is telling me I’m seeing subscriptions down; I’m seeing Mercury One donations down,” he added. “I’m getting violent emails from people who say, you know, I’ve ‘betrayed the Republic.’ Whatever.”

    Oh my! These are the kind of people who give Glenn Beck money???? Damn! Who knew?

    Not all of them are like this. Imagine the moron @25-31 helping out his bro Glenn with the chillun’ aid flotilla:

    “Hey ILLEGALS, come and get this grub that Glenn and his supporters PAID FOR – yeah his supporters include ME.. If you show the proper gratitude – YOU GET A SOCCER BALL!

    The proper words are THANK YOU. This is ‘Merca illegals. Y’all speak Inglish here.

    No intiendo??? Figures – y’all are CHEAP!

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    Puddybud - The One The Only spews:

    Hey DUMMOCRETIN crazed clueless cretin SCUMBAG@36,

    Puddy has no problem with Glenn Beck helping out based on his personal beliefs. He’s doing way more that anyone here sees you doing DUMMOCRETIN SCUMBAG!

    Still waiting for you DUMMOCRETIN SCUMBAG to take some illegal alien children and welcome them into your shack and work to get them “documented”. All that screaming and shouting over calling them undocumented while the law calls them illegal aliens and all we see is you sitting on your clueless ASS! When you do that you’ll actually get your first grass blade of respect.

    Otherwise… Cry Puddy a River DUMMOCRETIN SCUMBAG crazed clueless cretin!

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    Puddybud - The One The Only spews:

    Hey DUMMOCRETIN crazed clueless cretin SCUMBAG@36, James Carville describes you to a “T” Tell you anything and as a DUMMOCRETIN you swallow the kook-aid!

    The voter is basically dumb and lazy. The reason I became a Democratic operative instead of a Republican was because there were more Democrats that didn’t have a clue than there were Republicans.

    Truth is relative. Truth is what you can make the voter believe is the truth. If you’re smart enough, truth is what you make the voter think it is. That’s why I’m a Democrat. I can make the Democratic voters think whatever I want them to.”

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    Puddybud - The One The Only spews:

    Liberals saying things they know aren’t true for the sole purpose of exploiting the “less-than-informed” for political gain. – James Carville!

    Puddy has always said DUMMOCRETINS are low information voters. HA clueless crazed cretin proves it in SPADES!

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    Also notice that the troll moron is NOT TOUCHING the fact that the crowd who supports Glenn Beck with money is sending VIOLENT E-MAILS and cancelling subscriptions over the Beck unaccompanied minor, undocumented immigrant aid flotilla.

    This idiot has long carried water for this miserable ignorant crowd.

    Come on’ name calling idiot. Call ‘em “illegals” just like the peeps who won’t fund Glenn no more!

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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @41 & @43 – There’s so much puddy drool in this thread it would take a front loader to clean it up, but thanks for trying.

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    Puddybud - The One The Only spews:

    Why should Puddy react to a low life DUMMOCRETIN as the clueless crazed cretin? You don’t seem to react the worse Obummer NSA! In fact you totally disappear!

    Naaaaaahhhh… HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR! The crazed cretin who’s very clueless keeps a commentary count! Puddy PWNS this moron, lock stock and barrel!

    Too bad Roger Roadblock IDIOT Wabbit hates facts. Can’t refute anything offered eh IDIOT Wabbit? Well Carville said you are easily manipulated!

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    Deathfrogg spews:

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    Puddybud - The One The Only spews:

    Notice how it skirts this commentary directed right at the clueless crazed cretin…

    Still waiting for you DUMMOCRETIN SCUMBAG clueless crazed cretin to take some illegal alien children and welcome them into your shack and work to get them “documented”. All that screaming and shouting over calling them undocumented while the law calls them illegal aliens and all we see is you sitting on your clueless ASS! When you do that you’ll actually get your first grass blade of respect.

    Otherwise… Cry Puddy a River DUMMOCRETIN SCUMBAG crazed clueless cretin!

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    Deathfrogg spews:

    @ The Schizo

    They aren’t illegal aliens, they’re refugees from the slaughter and corruption that totally dominates their homelands. Mass butchery and legally enforced poverty that the United States bears most of the responsibility for creating.

    You are a very typical Fascist, blaming the victims of the crimes your sort has committed against them, and then manufacturing outrage at those people’s attempts to get out of the place that victimizes them, and then victimizing them again. Create the conditions that those people are required to live in, and then imprison them in those conditions for generations.

    So, answer me this SchizoPuddles, what crime have these children committed? What horrible thing have they done that warrants the treatment your kind has offered them? You live in Washington State. A State that is pretty moderately liberal and has had the fortune to be run by fairly competent, LIBERAL governance. And yet you refuse to relocate yourself to the real right-wing paradise States like Mississippi or Arkansas or West Virginia.

    You are nothing if not totally disingenuous, and a coward.

    I find it to be utterly appalling, that the so-called “right to life” crowd is so hell bent on maintaining the poverty and resultant corruption that both creates and is caused by it, that they are downright enthusiastic to start the mass imprisonment of, and eventual murder of children who are victimized by it. Make no mistake, no such mass imprisonment has ever occurred, never in history, without that “final solution” being implemented. Ever. We did it to the First Nations Peoples and we did it to the Africans. The United States is founded and maintained on the mass murder of innocent people, especially children.

    The only reason these modern National-Socialists claim to love the 2nd Amendment is that they want to be victimizers. It has nothing to do with “defense”, it is all about maintaining their ability to commit atrocities at will. Their “god” loves them so much, that they actively and vehemently make the claim that he is willing to overlook his own rulebook to permit their violence against the most helpless. They are nothing less than wanna-be baby butchers.

    Some things will never change. You people are always the same.

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    Nice catch Deathfrogg..

    It was the troll moron’s beloved Bush who signed legislation in 2008 that made it easier for refugee kids fleeing drug gangs and sex traffickers to seek redress before immigration judges first before being deported.

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    This has probably been brought up previously:

    By a 51 – 27 percent margin, American voters blame former President George W. Bush, rather than Obama, for the situation in Iraq

    The people have spoken: they blame Bush. And before the troll moron says more people don’t like Obama’s foreign policy leadership..

    Where’s Putin these days? Not doing much is he? That’s called effective policy troll moron.

    As always, it sure sucks to be an ODS sufferer like you.

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    EvergreenRailfan spews:

    To increase capacity on it’s light rail lines in Newark and Hoboken, New Jersey Transit will stretch the existing LRV’s by adding an extra module per car. This has been done before with DART in Dallas, and the vehicles were built by the same company. Wonder if this can be done for Sound Transit, since Sound Transit buys from the same company.

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    Puddybud - The One The Only spews:

    They aren’t illegal aliens

    Oh yes they are you moron. US LAW sez so. ILLEGAL ALIENS! Puddy already placed the US LAW on this blog you idiot! Of course you ignore the law.

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    Puddybud - The One The Only spews:

    But voters disapprove 55 – 37 percent of the way President Obama is handling the situation in Iraq and disapprove 52 – 42 percent of the way he is handling the situation in Afghanistan, the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University poll finds

    Obummer is preznit clueless crazed cretin!

    Sux to be you!

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    Puddybud - The One The Only spews:

    Where is the DUMMOCRETIN SCUMBAG crazed clueless cretin?

    Still waiting for you DUMMOCRETIN SCUMBAG clueless crazed cretin to take some illegal alien children and welcome them into your shack and work to get them “documented”. All that screaming and shouting over calling them undocumented while the law calls them illegal aliens and all we see is you sitting on your clueless ASS! When you do that you’ll actually get your first grass blade of respect.

    What part of the US law doesn’t the DUMMOCRETIN SCUMBAG clueless crazed cretin understand? read and weep crazed cluleless cretin

    Oh BTW, Immigration and Nationality Act Section 237 paragraph (a) section(1) subsection(B): “Any alien who is present in the United States in violation of this Act or any other law of the United States is deportable.” Alien here illegally is an illegal alien.

    The rest of the DUMMOCRETIN SCUMBAG crazed clueless cretin post is worthless blather! Oh yeah they are illegal aliens. That’s US law you moronic idiot!

    Bwaaaaaa haaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaa haaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaa HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR!

    Otherwise… Cry Puddy a River DUMMOCRETIN SCUMBAG crazed clueless cretin!

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    James Carville

    Yaaaaawwwn.. Heh. First it was Cass Sunstein with this troll moron..

    Now he’s boring us to tears with Carville..

    He’s 69 years old.. He’s a fossil.. He’s the past!

    Then look at who that DLC glory days, Republican-lite has been married to for umpteen years..

    Nine years younger? What’s her fucking problem? Oh yeah – just wait and listen when she opens her trap – nobody in their right mind would want to be married to that!


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    Is the troll moron still hating kids? Is he still ignoring laws Dumbya signed? Is he still ignoring Vlady the feckless tyrant and TWO TERM President Obama’s policy that is working?

    He is! He is!

    YAWWWWWN. Halfway decent cure for insomnia I must say.

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    Puddybud - The One The Only spews:

    The law GW Bush signed is BEING IGNORED by Obummer you twit!

    BTW it sux to be you!

    Was there a rujaxoff sighting? Nothing much worthwhile was said again!