Friday Night Multimedia Extravaganza!

Thom with The Good, The Bad, and The Very, Very Ugly.

Ed and Pap: Corporate courts will aid GOP’s efforts at voter suppression.

Young Turks: Christopher Hitchens is dead.

Roy Zimmerman Christmas Special:

Young Turks: Glenn Beck calls the teabaggers racist! Nutbagger Breitbart responds.

White House: West Wing Week.

Ann Telnaes: CEO pay bounces back.

Seattle police release videos they claim show Occupy protesters were violent & organized!.

Thom with more Good, Bad, and Very, Very Ugly.

Young Turks: Tim Tebow’s War on Christmas.

Sheriff Arpaio: IS illegal.

The Republican Circus Show:

Thom: Wisconsin recall (or don’t mess with working people).

Young Turks: Bill-O is shocked to learn that military run by government.

Newsy: No buyers for the newest Palin family reality show.

Stephen with Wag of the finger, tip of the hat.

Thom with even more Good, Bad, and Very, Very Ugly.

Alyona: Manning’s first day in court.

Real people speak out for Darcy Burner:

The Nine-year War Ends:

Young Turks: Women have a Constitutional right to abortion and it’s being denied.

Alyona’s Tool Time: Congress doesn’t understand the internet.

Obama on ensuring fair pay for in-home care workers.

Thom: Who is winning the “corporate personhood” battle?

Newsy: Teabaggers defend calling Obama a skunk.

How Lowe’s Can You Go?

Alyona: TIME’s person of the year.

Young Turks: The New York Times defective coverage of Eric Holder’s speech about voter fraud.

Thom: Even more Good, Bad, and Very, Very Ugly.

Alyona: Voters are being silenced.

Joseph Farah, the proprietor of conspires his way to Worst Person in the World.

Stop detaining immigrants for profit.

Jon on the balls on Herman, Mitt, and Barack.

Last week’s Friday Night Multimedia Extravaganza can be found here.


  1. 2

    GimmeGimmeGimme FREE STUFF!....aka OWSer spews:

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: Why did we even bother to elect this guy?

    because you are a bunch of lemmings, thats why.

  2. 3

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @2 Maybe you should pull your head out of your ass long enough to come down to Montlake some Tuesday evening to see for yourself if the HA crowd is “a bunch of lemmings.”

    But I’m not going to let you off that easily, because that’s a truly ignorant dumbfuck comment.

    We Democrats don’t have a choice because we’re stuck with a two-party system, not because we’re “a bunch of lemmings.” It’s not us, it’s the system, stupid!

    I’m not saying there isn’t a lot of vacuity among the electorate. All I’m saying is it’s all on your side. We Democrats are a diverse lot. See one Republican, and you’ve seen ‘em all.

    Back in ’08, we “lemmings” didn’t fall for John Edwards. We started out with 10 candidates, and when it finally came down to 2, we fought like hell over whether it would be Obama or Hillary. This year, Democrats have no choice at all — because of how the system works.

    Republicans are now getting their own taste of the system. This year, they too started out with 10 candidates and they’re basically down to 2, and very soon they’re going to find out they can nominate anyone they like as long as his name is Mitt Romney. In other words, it doesn’t make a damn bit of difference whether you’re a Democrat or a Lemming, either way you have no fucking choice! It’s the system, stupid!

    And once you elect someone president, you’re stuck with hin for eight years (except in exceptional circumstances, in which case you’re still stuck with him for a minimum of four years, unless he dies) — even if he breaks every one of his campaign promises, gets blowjobs under the desk at work, starts a war against the wrong country, or runs the economy into the ground. He can put Alan Greenspan in charge of the Federal Reserve, Donald Rumsfeld in charge of the Pentagon, and Antonin Scalia on the Supreme Court — and there isn’t a damn thing anybody can do about it.

    Personally, I think we should consider scrapping this system and doing what every other democracy does — have a Parliament instead of a useless Congress, and a Prime Minister we can get rid of next weekend with a no-confidence vote if we want to — plus a dozen different political parties, one in a flavor to suit every taste. It works better than this Rube Goldberg contraption the Framers inflicted on us.

    As for you, if you think Democrats are “lemmings,” you’ve never been to a Democratic caucus or precinct meeting. (Lucky you!)

    You’re dumber than a brick.

  3. 4

    GimmeGimmeGimme FREE STUFF!....aka OWSer spews:

    fools, lemmings like you have made the system what it is…..hope you sleep well knowing that.

    Ds and Rs are all crooks of the same color, just with a different title.

    but hey, you all keep voting them in…hows that worked so far?

    fools…all of you…not an independent thinking person amongst ya.

    save your bullshit for someone else

    “hope and change”…LMFAO…and you all bought that BS..hook, line, and sinker.

  4. 5

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @4 “fools, lemmings like you have made the system what it is…..hope you sleep well knowing that.”

    The guys who made the system what it is have been dead for 200 years. I had nothing to do with it.

    “Ds and Rs are all crooks of the same color, just with a different title.”

    I like our crooks better than your crooks.

    “but hey, you all keep voting them in…hows that worked so far?”

    If you’re talking about Republicans, we didn’t vote them in, and that doesn’t work at all. If you’re talking about Democrats, the ones we voted in leave a lot to be desired, but the worst Democrat is still better than the best Republican.

    “fools…all of you…not an independent thinking person amongst ya.”

    Yeah, we’re just a bunch of “fools” with Ph.D.s, M.D.s, law degrees, and whatnot, employed as professors, doctors, medical researchers, attorneys, administrators, etc., who can’t think for ourselves. Or anyway, it looks that way to a troll with the IQ of an eggplant.

    “save your bullshit for someone else”

    I’m not going anywhere. Are you? Don’t let the door hit your ass on your way out.

    ““hope and change”…LMFAO…and you all bought that BS..hook, line, and sinker.”

    No, things aren’t great, but if you guys were running the country we’d be in a Great Depression now. And bogged down in another bloody war in Iran. Things could be much worse — what if Republicans had won in 2008?

  5. 6

    Deathfrogg spews:

    @ RR

    “Roger Rabbit Commentary: Why did we even bother to elect this guy?”

    Because the alternative was a senile, demented long term alcoholic and a flaming, utterly uneducated cheerleader twit.

  6. 7

    MikeBoyScout spews:

    @1 Roger, it is not as bad as it seems, but it is certainly not as good as it should be.

    In the end and in our system it is not the executive’s election which matters most, but the make up of the Congress.

    The good news for you and me in that story is that we live in Washington and not South Carolina.

  7. 8

    Deathfrogg spews:

    @ 7

    Or Alabama. Or Texas. Or Mississippi. Funny how all the “red” States have consistently the worst health problems, the worst schools, the highest rates of incarceration for petty crimes and bleed the Federal Government for financial support.

  8. 9

    Gman spews:

    Republicans are a bunch of cheaters, they can’t win alone on principals, so they will cheat to get their way – And don’t forget how heterosexuals rape, murderer and MAIM, with Republicans leading the way.

  9. 11

    Zotz sez: It's the Supreme Court, stupid! spews:

    What Roger said.

    This is a two party system, but we really only have one choice: we are one SCOTUS seat away from total oligarchic theocracy.

  10. 13

    Gman spews:

    @12- I get to you so bad you have to cheat yourself and post under my name. Good One.

    So D’s and R’s are crooks but I’s aren’t – makes a lot of sense.

    How about put the blame where it stands, with Heterosexuals. Heterosexuals are Barbarians, that lick their own balls.

  11. 14

    Gman spews:

    Max you need to stop defending murderers, rapists and people who maim. Check into a hospital yourself, you will see that you will find a bunch of your heterosexuals murderers, and rapist friends there.

  12. 16

    Gman spews:

    Max – you’ll need to mis spell a word or two for people to believe that that is really me. I hope you get blocked from posting on here for doing what you are doing. How you going to kill your wife, with a knife or noose? You going to rape her first?

  13. 17

    Max - never defeated.....accept no substitutes spews:


    it wasnt me posting under your name.

    you are an irrelevant little bug, I dont have time to fuck with you anymore.

    but whoever was messing with you was right, you do need to seek some mental therapy.

  14. 18

    Max - never defeated.....accept no substitutes spews:

    on a second look, gman really was posting to himself.

    why freaking so early in the morning wacko? did your craigslist hookup leave this morning without giving you a reach around?

  15. 19

    Gman spews:

    Max, what do you monitor this site 24 / 7. You were quick to respond, I guess only a coincidence.

    Messing around – that’s all they can do is mess around, you are a mess like the rest.

    Try a pillow on the wife, not as messy.

  16. 20

    Gman spews:

    @18 – try to put 2 + 2 together to make 4. I’m on East Coast, it is noon here, you idiot. Leave it to you to jump to a wrong conclusion.

  17. 21

    Gman spews:

    @17 – you were the irrelevant little bug, that’s why you stopped fucking with me because your fucking meant nothing to me and you figured that out quick.(fucking, your words – I would have chosen a different word, sounds like you are a homo, fucking with the same sex).

  18. 24

    Michael spews:

    A federal court is blocking some of the budget cuts

    Washington state made to a social services program for the disabled, threatening to force millions of dollars in renewed spending.

    The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals said in its ruling released Friday that the regulations put disabled residents at risk of institutionalization. Judges issued a preliminary injunction that currently impacts a handful of people involved in the case, but state officials are concerned that it could eventually be extended to the 45,000 beneficiaries of the program.
    “It’s a great deal of concern because of the cost associated with providing these increased services,” said Edward Dee, a state assistant attorney general. The reductions save a few million dollars each month.
    State officials are appealing the ruling.

    Read more:

    Boy, couldn’t have seen that coming from a mile away. The state of Washington has had it’s ass handed to it in court in regards to the funding of programs for and treatment of the developmentally disabled time and time again. They’re going to appeal this ruling and they’re going to lose again. We’ve been through this one before.

  19. 26

    GimmeGimmeGimme FREE STUFF!....aka OWSer spews:

    somewhere is spain, a castillian village is missing its drunk


  20. 27

    Michael spews:

    “Seattle Police Release Video They Say Shows Occupy Protesters Are Violent & Organized!”

    So they showed a couple of videos where you really couldn’t make anything much out and you had a protest that devolved in to pushing and shoving and a couple of people got pushed and shoved. Shocking!

  21. 28

    GimmeGimmeGimme FREE STUFF!....aka OWSer spews:

    the young turk should be called not-so-young jerk.

    why are progressives so obsessed with tim tebow?

    its all about hate.

  22. 29

    GimmeGimmeGimme FREE STUFF!....aka OWSer spews:

    OWSers were removed from an area in Olympia…and what did officials in Oly find? lots of drug paraphernalia, including large quantities of used drug needles littering the ground.

    wow, big surprise….

  23. 30


    Heh. Somewhere northeast of tacoma, a racist asshat is just being a racist asshat..

    while sauced with some fancy booze… I understand GWB liked Jim Beam..


  24. 31

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @7 The bad news is that doesn’t help our friends and neighbors living in South Carolina.

    Note: The late (sniffle) Pop Rabbit’s only surviving sibling lives in South Carolina, so I have a kinship stake in what happens there.

  25. 32

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @9 “they can’t win alone on principals”

    That would be “principles.” A “principal” is the guy who gets all the profits in a Limited Partnership, the limited partners; share being what the word “limited” implies.

  26. 33

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Hundreds of thousands of financial employees are losing their jobs. It’s the usual deal: The execs who ran the industry (and the economy) into the ground still have their positions (and bigger-than-ever bonuses) while the worker bees pay the price for their bosses’ greed. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

  27. 34

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    There’s a movement afoot to amend the Constitution to declare corporations are “nonpersons.”

    I would go the other route. I would amend the Constitution to clarify that corporations are indeed “persons,” thus enshrining in our basic charter the corrections of Citizens United.

    This means that not only could corporations give money to political campaigns like the rest of us (i.e., $1,500 per person), but they could also vote (i.e., each corporation having 1 vote, like the rest of us).

    There are, of course, some other ramifications. For example, as “persons,” corporations could not twinkle in and out of existence like virtual particles or a string of cheap Chinese-manufactured Christmas tree lights. No more running off to bankruptcy court to temporarily become “nonpersons” for the purpose of wriggling out of their union contracts and pension obligations. They would be treated like all other persons when it comes to being held responsible for their promises, debts, and obligations. The only way they could become “nonpersons” would be the same way the rest of us do — by suffering permanent and irreversible death, meaning total liquidation of their corporate being and distribution of their assets to heirs designated by testamentary law (but only after all the debts, bills, liabilities, creditors, and claimants are paid).

  28. 35

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    This horseshit about being “persons” for the purpose of spending the shareholders’ money on rightwing political causes and candidates, but being “nonpersons” for the purpose of not paying what they owe to employees, pensioners, customers, bondholders, shareholders, and creditors, has to stop. They can’t have it both ways. They either exist of they don’t exist. It’s gotta be one or the other.

  29. 36


    No wonder PuddySilly seems more lost than usual these days:

    Glenn Beck call Newt a “progressive” and the teabagger’s “racist”.. Breitbart hates Beck for throwing him under a bus over the Sherrod flap.

    Just a day in paradise for people on the better side of the issues..

    A nightmare for folks like Puddynutjob.

    I’m lovin’ it!

  30. 38

    Michael spews:

    The folk in Olympia had invited a large number of homeless folks to come share their occupy site with them. As someone that used to live in that neighborhood, I can tell you that finding homeless encampments with drug paraphernalia wasn’t all uncommon anyway.

  31. 39

    GimmeGimmeGimme FREE STUFF!....aka OWSer spews:


    funny how the same pattern of drugs and crime seems to follow the OWSers around, wouldnt you say?

    time to call a spade a spade.

  32. 40

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @39 Unless you’ve been there and know what you’re talking about, you don’t know what you’re talking about.

  33. 41

    Deathfrogg spews:

    @ 39

    Funny how the pattern of spousal abuse, alcoholism and slavish authoritarianism seems to follow the TeaKlanners around, wouldn’t you say?

    Not to mention the Methamphetamine and racism.

  34. 42

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Campaigning, Republican-Style

    Case #1

    “Bill Folk has some explaining to do … when he spoke to the press this week about recent incidences of intimidation and violence against recall circulators he knew a little more about one of the people involved than he let on. It seems the driver was not a random Republican rogue, but … an elected official with the local GOP. The Siren got a flood of emails … identifying the car who tried to back up over a retired police officer ….”


  35. 43

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Campaigning, Republican-Style

    Case #2

    “Madison police said 54-year-old Earl Gluth … was photographing a 41-year-old Madison woman collecting signatures on a sidewalk outside a grocery store Thursday. … Gluth allegedly said her photo was going ‘on the website’ and snapped photos of license plates, saying he was going to look up petitioners’ addresses. The woman claimed that when she grabbed her phone to photograph Gluth, he knocked the phone and petition clipboard to the pavement. She said she then followed Gluth into the store, where he yelled about her following him and being ‘anti-Walker.’ He was cited for disorderly conduct.”

  36. 44

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Campaigning, Republican-Style

    Case #3

    “A woman accused of destroying a sign to recall Gov. Scott Walker is facing possible charges of criminal damage to property and disorderly conduct in Chippewa County. Police say the 68-year-old woman parked her minivan by a group of recall volunteers at an intersection in Chippewa Falls this past weekend, grabbed one of the signs, ripped it up and drove away … witnesses called police after getting the woman’s license plate number.”

  37. 45

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Campaigning, Republican-Style

    Case #4

    A man was placed in … Washington County Jail Monday after a dispute with someone collecting recall signatures …. Police say a 30-year-old man scribbled over signatures … at the home of a recall organizer. ‘She handed him two clipboards …. He proceeded to scribble through the signatures that were on those two forms,’ said recall organizer Waring Fincke.
    … [T]he man then ran out of the home and jumped in his car. ‘He drove away. She captured his license plate number and called the police,’ said Fincke.”

  38. 46

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Campaigning, Republican-Style

    Cases #5 & #6

    “(Heather) Dubois Bourenane, a Sun Prairie teacher, received a phone call at 4 a.m. … from a man who wouldn’t identify himself. The man told her that she had ‘attracted the attention of some very bad people’….

    “‘They said, If you don’t stop circulating recall petitions, we will kill you,’ Tom Peer, a volunteer for the recall campaign, told Wisconsin’s WISC news of a call he received at 2 a.m. Thursday.”

  39. 48

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Campaigning, Republican-Style

    Cases #8 & #9

    “Last summer, a couple of activist friends from Madison contacted Mary to see if she would help them administer their anti-Walker Facebook pages. They were being harassed by … Walker supporters, and needed someone to delete troll posts and unfriend trolls. … She began to delete the most childish posts on her friends’ site, and she blocked the annoying parties …. Within days … four different Facebook pages went up attacking her. The goons … began to troll her side business of jewelry sales, registering constant false complaints and negative endorsements to dissuade online business. They began to post her home address and phone numbers throughout their sites. And they began to constantly call and spam her place of work, complaining about her behavior and the job she does. …

    “Last summer, this same cluster of Facebook fascists published residence information of another activist, a young woman from Madison, with the suggestion that ‘people should visit her.’ A few days after that, her apartment was broken in to. …

    “I had assumed that these domestic terrorists were local beer-and brat Brietbart wannabes. Think again … some are paid operatives ranging as far away as Arizona.”

  40. 50

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Worker Fired For Being A Liberal

    “The St.Louis Science Center decided to fire me today for my affiliation with liberal groups online ….

    “Apparently cause I have a bumper sticker on my car supporting liberals they decided to do some ‘investigating’ of me and went through my facebook profile, which is set to private might I add. Printed out pictures of me and showed me the pictures that are on private which I asked ‘How were you able to obtain private pictures of me’ only for my former boss to tell me its private information. …

    “Due to me refusing to as they state it ‘Defend the Science Center’ against bloggers on websites … that I was causing a hostile work environment. …

    “I have never had this happen to me before, being fired over my affiliation with liberal groups that are part of my personal life. What do I do now?”

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: Get a lawyer.

  41. 51

    Michael spews:


    funny how the same pattern of drugs and crime seems to follow the OWSers around, wouldnt you say?

    No. The drugs and crime didn’t follow the OWS’ers to Olympia or Seattle, they were already there. Drug use/abuse is rampant in our society across all sections. What varies is the kind of drugs people use.

    As I already noted. I lived in the capitol neighborhood for about a year and it was commonplace to see homeless people. We had homeless encampments in the woods around the neighborhood. Homeless people tend to be drunks and addicts.

    What the OWS’ers didn’t do is shun the street people who used street drugs or lie about it and try to deny homeless people exist. Why it would be surprising to someone or shocking that street people use street drugs I do not know.

    By welcoming in street people the OWS’ers probably concentrated what petty crime was already going on into a smaller area.

    The OWS’ers were also probably being a bit naive and overly idealistic.

    We have this weird idea in our society that only certain people or certain places use illegal drugs. It’s nonsense. According to most people’s view, a place like Gig Harbor’s supposed to be free of that sort of thing while a place like Tacoma’s supposed to be full of illegal drugs. But, as a teenager in Gig Harbor I saw way more drugs (you could get contact highs just sitting in classes at Gig Harbor High) than my friends that grew up in cities did.

    Nowadays, I routinely see cars weaving heavily as they leave the Tides Tavern and the other bars around town. Is getting shit-faced on beer really better or different than smoking weed? And wouldn’t it be better if people who wanted to go out and get shit faced on beer lived in walkable neighborhoods where they could just walk to a bar instead of driving?

  42. 55

    Michael spews:

    Eesh… This is awful.

    PONTIAC, Ill. (AP) — A burst of gunfire sent Annelise Fiedler running out of her home to see what the noise was. In the yard next door, she saw 30-year-old Sara McMeen hovering over her baby as if she had dropped her. Fiedler asked McMeen if everything was all right.
    “She looked at me and said, ‘No, everything is not all right,'” Fiedler told The Associated Press.
    Then, Fiedler said, McMeen shot the baby. Fiedler fled for her life.
    While authorities in the small Illinois farming community remained tight-lipped Saturday about the details of what they said was a murder-suicide that left five people dead, neighbors described shocking violence that took place outside, in full view of their homes. Some could see two of the children’s bodies from their windows.
    The dead included McMeen, her 29-year-old live-in boyfriend, Daniel Warren, and her three children, 8-year-old Skyler Lemke, 7-year-old Ian Lemke and 10-month-old Maggie Warren, authorities said.

  43. 56

    Michael spews:


    funny how the same pattern of drugs and crime seems to follow the OWSers around, wouldnt you say?

    Fibromyalgia got started as a way for doctors to profit from upper-class, mostly conservative, white women that like to stay hopped up on pain pills. Their upper-class white husbands are probably addicted to wanking off while looking at internet porn. We’re a society filled with addicts. America the beautiful has become America the pathetic.

  44. 57



    Over the top right wing madness..

    This violence and insanity will happen every day, ever hour in every place if we roll over and let the right wing get its way.

  45. 58

    Deathfrogg spews:

    @ 57

    Thats what the right wing IS, a bunch of mafiosi thugs. Any good businessman is going to be a Republican, and as everyone knows, those Germans in Texas and the Italians in New York are “good” businessmen.

    This is pure strongarm, mafia/fascist methodology. What else can you expect? It’s only a matter of time before someone gets killed, even somebody important. Thats how the Mafia does “business”. Only the Rightists believe in violence as a standard method to get what they want. It’s standard operating procedure.

  46. 59

    Michael spews:

    I forgot to mention that their daughter’s up to her neck in credit card debit, because she’s addicted to shopping and their son’s off peddling (and smoking) weed at the local OWS’er encampment.

    We are so fucked.

  47. 61

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @56 My sister isn’t upper-class or conservative, but she’s somehow managed to suffer from fibromyalgia for going on 30 years now, and from the debilitating discomfort that comes with it. As far as I know, it’s a real disease.

  48. 62

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @58 Somebody already did get killed — 169 people in Oklahoma City, including a bunch of daycare kids. The rightwing’s culture of violence and thug mentality has never changed.

  49. 63

    proud leftist spews:

    Michael @ 51
    Great post. I’m pretty sure, though, that none of our trolls could possibly grasp your point.

    Rabbit, throughout

    Thanks for the Wisconsin shit. Democracy is under siege in this country; the Republican Party cannot handle the masses. Let’s see how far that gets the Rs.

  50. 64

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    Coalition military deaths: 4,803
    U.S. military deaths: 4,484
    Non-Iraqi contractor deaths: 463
    U.S. military wounded: 32,200
    Iraqi civilian deaths: 103,674 – 113,265
    Refugees: 1.6 million
    Internally displaced civilians: 1.24 million
    Direct costs: $806 billion
    Future veterans benefits & health care: $422 billion – $717 billion
    Veterans eligible for VA health care: 1.25 million
    VA PTSD cases: 168,854

    “The end of former Iraq President Saddam Hussein’s brutal regime represents a considerable global good, and a nascent democratic Iraqi republic partnered with the United States could potentially yield benefits in the future,” Duss and Juul of the Center for American Progress write. “But when weighing those possible benefits against the costs of the Iraq intervention, there is simply no conceivable calculus by which Operation Iraqi Freedom can be judged to have been a successful or worthwhile policy.”

  51. 65

    Michael spews:


    As far as I know, it’s a real disease.

    It is real. But, it’s also used as a cover for people to pop pain pills. Believe me I grew up and live around that one. I think it’s often easier for doctors to tell upper class conservative women that they have fibromyalgia than it is to tell them they’re depressed and their life sucks. Near as I can tell there’s more people using fibromyalgia as a cover for pill popping, than actually have it.

    The level of drug abuse in this country is staggering.

  52. 66

    Michael spews:

    Thanks. Of course the trolls wont get it, they live in a myth and they skip over anything that challenges their myth.

    But, to be fair, I could skewer a good chunk of the left in the same way. It’s a minority of American’s that take realist positions.

  53. 69

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @63 “Let’s see how far that gets the Rs.”

    This far and no farther. In other words, they overextended in Wisconsin. Walker’s recall looks like a sure thing. Organizers will easily get enough signatures, and polls show voters against Walker by 58% – 38% even before an opponent for the recall election is named.

  54. 70

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @66 “But, to be fair, I could skewer a good chunk of the left in the same way.”

    Considering how far right the left has shifted, I’m not so sure. Even Nixon would be considered left-of-center today.

  55. 71

    Michael spews:

    I’ve got a couple of buddies who’s grandmothers are mavens of high society types and both their grandmothers allegedly have fibromyalgia. We’re pretty sure that what both grandmothers have is a lot of time on their hands and a fondness for martini’s and pills. Not sure how much a doctor makes off of a real fibromyalgia sufferer, but I’m guessing not much. But, a “pill doc” can make bank off of someone like my buddies grandmothers.

  56. 73

    proud leftist spews:

    Roger and Michael,
    Over the years, I’ve represented many people who doctors have diagnosed with fibromyalgia. As a Scandinavian, I tend toward discarding pain complaints. But, I believe fibromyalgia is a real condition. I also believe certain doctors tend to slap that diagnosis on certain people (generally, women over 40 with other troubles in their lives) who they don’t know what else to do with. So, the docs prescribe meds. I don’t much like or trust doctors, and I know most of them hate lawyers. So, I haven’t seen one for years.

  57. 74


    Roger and Michael,

    You two keep copying other people’s material, while adding almost no comment of your own. That is not consistent with the HA Comment Policy.

    Copying a brief excerpt to support a point you are making is fine. Try to keep a 1:1 or higher ratio of your content to the copied content.


  58. 76

    Gman spews:

    Republican con artists. Hypocrites and Frauds.

    Southhaven, Mississippi Mayor Greg Davis spent $67 at Priape, known as “Canada’s premiere gay lifestyle store and sex shop.”

    Davis declined to comment on the expenses, saying his attorney had told him not to talk.

    “I can’t say anything,” Davis told the AP on Friday.

    The 45-year-old mayor told The Commercial Appeal he doesn’t remember what he bought at the sex shop, which he visited on a recruitment trip with warehouse developers.

    Davis, who divorced this year, told The Commercial Appeal on Thursday that he is gay. It was the first time he had said so publicly.

    But what prompted Davis to come out was misuse of taxpayer funds. He ran for Congress in 2009 on a conservative, family values platform.

    I wonder if we have any Republicans here who are hypocrites and gay themselves. Michelle Bachmann is a moron for believing her flaming husband. What a joke of a party.

  59. 78

    Gman spews:

    @55 – Heterosexuals gone wild….ya’ll could make a whole volume set of tapes of this type of heterosexual behavior, to sell on the tv for fun.

  60. 79

    Gman spews:

    @78 it could be sold under the Heterosexual Family Values headline like the rest of the heterosexual family values brain washing crap. Not a commercial around today not selling the family values crap.

  61. 80

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @74 You’re too hung up on word count, Darryl. If I have to paste 10 paragraphs to show what a source tried to say, then make my point in 10 words, that’s simply because I’m a better writer than the source author. On the flip side, when I present information from a souce like Christian Science Monitor, why do I need to say anything when they say it better than I could?

  62. 83

    Michael spews:

    Mittens is attacking Obama over the Bush withdrawl plan for Iraq.

    Romney attacks Obama over US troop withdrawal from Iraq

    US Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney has criticised President Barack Obama over the withdrawal of the last US troops from Iraq.

    He called the withdrawal “precipitous” and said the president should have left some US forces behind.

    Someone needs to explain to Mittens that both the American and Iraqi people were sick of the Iraq war and wanted our troops home.

  63. 84

    Deathfrogg spews:

    @ 83

    Mittens is a whore. He’ll say whatever the particular crowd in the room wants him to say. His opinion polling of likely Republican voters before he goes to any particular city illustrates that. He contradicts himself every day.

  64. 85


    84 – And the truth is that the Bush Administration was outsmarted and boxed into this year’s withdrawal by the al-Alaki government. Sorry Mittens, you fucking liar, this was not Obama’s call.

    Just read about it here:

    So Iraq is now a moderately pro-Iranian government that likes to buy our Boeing airplanes and sell us some of their oil.

    And they’re somewhat neutral on Israel, at the moment anyway.

  65. 86

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Boeing is closing its skunk works. “Boeing’s crappy leadership ran it into the ground,” a former employee says.

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: Too much bureaucracy, micromanagement, and corporate obsession with cutting employee benefits killed America’s premiere aerospace development lab. Another fucking failure of capitalism.

  66. 87

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @82 I can’t play because my computer won’t load the maps. I get the questions but no graphics.

  67. 88

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @84 It’s sad our political environment has become so hyperpartisan it’s no longer possible to have honest issues debates during presidential campaigns. And, as always, the culprits are Republicans.

  68. 90

    Michael spews:

    Huntsman picks up two newspaper endorsements in New Hampshire, wingnut heads explode. Film at 11.
    The Keene Sentinel and the Valley News both praised the former U.S. ambassador to China in editorials on Sunday.

    The endorsements were another snub to Mitt Romney, a former governor of neighboring Massachusetts who has dominated most opinion polls in New Hampshire this year but whose lead has recently narrowed in the race for the Republican nomination to run for president.

    I don’t think there’s much that those of us on the left can do about the far right. Reforming the far right has to come from the right. So to see the top folks in the Republican race for the White House all be fairly moderate (by todays standards) and to see Huntsman who ran to the left of the pack picking up a couple of newspaper endorsements is refreshing.

  69. 92

    Puddybud spews:

    More P R I C E L E S S!

    For the past several years, New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman, that guru for American Jewish liberals, has shown that he doesn’t really understand Israel or the region.

    His misunderstanding of Israel is evident in his underlying assumption that appears in his columns repeatedly: that were Israel to just leave the settlements, peace would flow like a river.

    Well, Israel uprooted all 21 settlements from Gaza in 2005, but instead of peace, received an unending barrage of missiles in return.

    Been there, seen it.

  70. 97


    Roger Rabbit,

    “If I have to paste 10 paragraphs to show what a source tried to say, then make my point in 10 words, that’s simply because I’m a better writer than the source author. “

    Alternatively, it means you are lousy at picking sources….

  71. 98

    Michael spews:


    Ah, yes. Post all the linking of supposed leftists that you want, but look at who’s running for president under the republican banner. Nobody that comes close to what you’ve been pushing on here will be in the top slot. Look around the country and again we see the Puddy People facing recalls or with ratings in the toilet.

    Face it Puddy, your world is crashing before your eyes.

  72. 101

    Deathfrogg spews:

    @ Spuddy.

    Why should we give a damn about Israel? Those folks seem to create more problems than they solve with their dictatorial Police State. There are too many vids online showing IDF troopers sniping Palestinian farmers in their fields and tying little Palestinian kids to the outside of their trucks when they drive through Gaza. Or doing shit like responding to thrown rocks with hellfire missiles to take them too seriously where any “peace process” is concerned.

    Israel cannot last the way its doing it business now. Remember, Palestinians are Semitic people too.

    It occurs to me that if you were to somehow eliminate religion, that would go a very long way to helping those folks learn to get along.

    Spuddy, linking to the Media Research Center, a very well established neofascist propaganda operation, doesn’t help any of your augments. It just continues to illustrate what a terribly stupid and ignorant person you are. Every single one of the quotes on that page are entirely factual, and events happening since they were made have been shown for how prophetic they were. The fact that the GOP has begun to throw the Tea-Klan under the bus and they are less than 20% of the population just shows what a huge group of nutbags they were.

  73. 102



    The Keene Sentinel and Valley News are both Democratic papers in Democratic areas (the Valley News serves Hanover, site of Dartmouth College). So their editors are having a good laugh at the expense of New Hampshire Republicans.

    And rightly so.

  74. 103

    Michael spews:


    Thanks for the local insight.

    Hopefully, people will take them up on it and Huntsman will get enough votes to stay in the race. I think Huntsman staying in and a couple of the far right one’s dropping out after N.H. would be good for the country.

  75. 104

    Michael spews:

    Israel cannot last the way its doing it business now. Remember, Palestinians are Semitic people too.

    Israel can last because they have the technology and energy to drill deep bore water wells and the Palestinians do not. The Israelis are sucking the Palestinians’ water wells dry.

  76. 105


    Ahhhh Nope

    Ahhhh Yes indeed..

    Beck calls Gingrich a “progressive”.. You agree dumbass?? I wonder why Beck says this? I wonder what Cleon Skousen or other LDS nutjob nonsense Beck is swilling these days.

    Breitbart says Beck is a coward.. You agree dumbass???

    Sucks to be you when your heroes are eating each other for our entertainment!

    We’re lovin’ it – you DOPE!

  77. 106

    Puddybud spews:

    Why should we give a damn about Israel?

    So to you the Israeli Jews are the enemy? Do tell us about this!

  78. 107

    Puddybud spews:

    You remeind me of a standard protocol droid from Star War ylb.

    You repeat the standard puke on leftist wingnut sites!

  79. 108


    the standard puke

    Translation: I (puddybud) am an idiot who can’t process the FACTS that 1) Beck called Newt Gingrich a “progressive” and 2) Breitbart called Beck a “coward”…

    Heh. Too funny!

  80. 109

    Puddybud spews:


    look who’s running for president under the DUMMOCRAPT banner

    I have been to Europe and Asia many times this year. We are not held in high esteem no matter what the leftist papers write. While they hated Bush for his “cowboy” mentality (their words), they respected Bush because he knew power speaks to terrorists. They laugh at ObamAA+

    To Iran: “Can we please have our spy plane back? Pretty please?”

    Bush would have went in and blown it up.

    So now we have our stealth helicopter and our best drone technology in the enemy’s hands. Great job ObamAA+

  81. 111

    Michael spews:


    So you’re not going to address anything that I actually wrote then. Not surprising, you never do. Obama’s not the point. The left’s not the point. The point is that the people and things you’ve been pushing are dying out. Recall in WI. You got shot down in OH. It’s looking like the most moderate of the Republicans will be the last ones standing in the presidential race. Let’s talk about how those who adhere to you ideology are losing their grasp on power. Let’s face it Puddy, your folks are toast.

    My folks are the working class eco-left. We were sold-out and dry fucked before we even got started. It’s not like I give a fuck about Obama or Ms. Nancy, they’re just the least bad choice in a binary system, so you might as well shut up about it. But, you my friend had high hopes and now they’re crashing.

  82. 113


  83. 114

    Puddybud spews:

    Oh my looks like my beta is stalking me again. Stalk attempt 22 or is it 32 with all of these attempts.

    Such a useless tool. You are truly possessed ylb! Sick and twisted.

  84. 115

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    North Korea’s ‘Dear Leader’ Drops Dead

    North Korea’s nominal leader, Kim Sung Il, died of heart failure yesterday. I say “nominal” because NK’s military controls that country, and they allowed Kim to rule as long as he went along with what they wanted. His death was announced tonight by government sources.

  85. 116

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Asian stock markets fell on news of Kim’s death on expectations of heightened instability on the Korean peninsula — North Korea is now nominally led by a 27-year-old kid — possibly presaging a decline in domestic stocks tomorrow morning, which is fine with me because I want stocks to get cheaper while I have cash to invest.

  86. 117

    Puddybud spews:

    Poor poor Michael,

    All of the Republican people running for president are being vetted because the leftist media:

    1) Hates Republicans
    2) Plays any attacks as internal infighting
    3) realizes now their slobbering jock strapping of ObamAA+ has put this country into real trouble.
    4) Realized our world standing is actually worse overseas than it ever was under Bush.
    5) Realize if the US fails all economies fail. Leftist media are then out of a job. We are back into the early 1900s Michael. That’s where you leftists want us to be. A non-super power.

    Regarding Scott Walker, he’s gone too fast. But he was trying to overcome 10 previous years of structural deficits in a single year. When you read the Green Bay Gazette they mention the budget problem left by the previous DUMMOCRAPT governor had to be fixed. Scott went too fast but he felt it had to be done.

    “Finally, after a 10-year trek through the desert of a debt-laden budget, we walk out of here with no debt,” Ellis said Friday.

    Nonpartisan observers say Ellis is right: The state budget that Gov. Scott Walker is poised to sign is balanced, leaving the next Legislature with a surplus instead of a massive hole to fill.

  87. 118

    Puddybud spews:

    North Korea’s nominal leader, Kim Sung Il, died of heart failure yesterday.

    Well many young North Korean virgins are sleeping peacefully tonight!

  88. 120

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @117 “All of the Republican people running for president are being vetted because”

    that’s what the media does to everyone who runs for president in every presidential election, dumbshit.

  89. 121


    114 – You don’t seem to be disputing the FACT:

    Beck called Gingrich “progressive”..

    Was Beck “right”?

    Fact #2

    Breitbart called Beck a “coward”.

    Was Breitbart “right”??

    And there’s another FACT:

    If you have a big government progressive, or a big government progressive in Obama, one in Newt Gingrich, one in Obama, ask yourself this, Tea Party: is it about Obama’s race? Because that’s what it appears to be to me. If you’re against him but you’re for this guy, it must be about race.

    Beck is calling the Tea Party “racist”?

    Is Beck “right”???

    You’ve been saying “Beck is right” for years now. Is he ever wrong fool?

  90. 122

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @118 They’re probably too hungry to think about sex. (“Not tonight, Dear Leader, I’m too weak from starvation!”) That’s what happens when the economy goes bust and you don’t have a government food stamp program.

  91. 123

    Michael spews:

    Actually it was you boy Grover Norquist I saw on the TV the other night saying he WANTED to take the country back to 1900.

    Walker’s gone. You’ve crashed and burned in OH. In the next presidential election we might have a Republican that I might vote for and believe me Puddy that means your folks our out of the running.

    Survey’s surprising finding: tea party less popular than atheists and Muslims

  92. 124

    Puddybud spews:


    You are a moron. You never disputed the facts when leftist called ObamAA+ names. Glenn Beck seems to have your leash today.

    Good luck moron!

  93. 125

    Puddybud spews:

    that’s what the media does to everyone who runs for president in every presidential election, dumbshit.

    Nope Roger DOPEY Rabbit.

    Case in point… Everyone bought the comment that ObamAA+ never had a fundraiser with Bill Ayers? Now we know it was a lie because it was never vetted.

    Good try DOPEY Rabbit!

  94. 126

    Puddybud spews:

    Yes, when you have the leftist media making up stories about Tea Party members and burying stories about OWS members, they affect public opinion!

  95. 127


    124 – I love how you can’t process facts about your stupid heroes Beck and Breitbart…

    FACT 1: Beck calls Gingrich “progressive”.
    FACT 2: Beck implies the Tea Party is racist!
    FACT 3: Breitbart, pissed at Beck calling the Tea Party racist and for throwing Breitbart under the bus over Sherrod, calls Beck a “coward”, a “liar” and a “huckster”.

    What a bunch of laughable Bozos you and your heroes are!

  96. 130

    Puddybud spews:

    My my my, my stalker is working overtime tonight. I am enjoying my sons being home from college.

    I think my enjoyment overshadows your puny attempts at stalking me.

    Sick bozo!

  97. 134

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @130 “overshadows”

    Doesn’t look like it. You seem to be pretty busy on HA tonight.

  98. 135

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Funny how people like puddy have a way of raising kids so they all turn out to be Democrats. That’s what happened to all the rabid rightwingers I know.

  99. 136

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @112 Who knows, maybe it’s possible to educate a brick. Miracles sometimes happen.

  100. 137

    Michael spews:

    I’m just glad to see the culture war/tea party republicans falling to the wayside. Good riddance.

  101. 139

    proud leftist spews:

    Hey, is it just me, or does Puddy seem even crazier than usual tonight? Should we be concerned for his well-being?

  102. 142

    Puddybud spews:

    So how does it feel knowing one member of the axis of evil has died? There is crying and gnashing of teeth in progressive land!

  103. 143

    Michael spews:

    is crying and gnashing of teeth in progressive land!

    Nope. Just like there wasn’t when Obama got Osama.

  104. 144


    To the Person Playing Puddybud,

    “There is crying and gnashing of teeth in progressive land!”

    I refuse to believe YOU are that stupid.

    But, man, that character you role-play is a fucking lunatic!

  105. 145

    Michael spews:


    concerned for his well-being?

    Concerned for his well-being? Hell, I’m trying to push him over the edge!

  106. 146


    one member of the axis of evil has died?

    Remember who wrote that speech Puddybud? Remember that FACT???

    David Frum wrote that speech Puddybud. Why is he saying such bad things about Republiccans these days?

    Is he right?

    Look what he says about Cass Sunstein:

    Bottom line: For those who champion free competitive markets, Cass Sunstein is about the best possible choice to be hoped for from a Democratic administration.

    I arrive at this opinion through first hand knowledge. I studied in one of Cass Sunstein’s seminars at Harvard Law School, and witnessed for two hours per week the fair play of his mind. But it’s not only my opinion. It’s the opinion of: Chris DeMuth, past president of the American Enterprise Institute; of the Wall Street Journal editorial page; and of the editors of Cato’s Regulation magazine. And while Republican-appointed judges like Chief Justice John Roberts and Court of Appeals Judge Michael McConnell cannot properly express a view, I’d wager dollars-to-doughnuts they too support Sunstein: after all, he endorsed both of them.

    He says the GOP is falling for Beck’s “mob rule”. Is Frum right???

  107. 148

    Steve spews:

    “I refuse to believe YOU are that stupid.

    But, man, that character you role-play is a fucking lunatic!”

    Role-playing? Does anybody here actually give a damn what his fucking problem might be? He has posted over 30,000 really stupid, hate-filled comments. Role playing? So this is some kind of 7 year long, 30,000+ comment act? No, Darryl, it’s more like some psychotic fucking obsession. He only comes here to disrupt, lie and spew hate. Act or not, it’s grown old. Enough already. Quit allowing that damned psychopath to get his crazy on by disrupting these threads.