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Don’t you want to hear former MN senator Al Franken tell jokes about the Somali fraud?
@ 1
Maybe I should have made that frauds.
I’m sure she would feel absolutely the same or better if it were the Dumpster.
I’m holding a big celebration tonight for the anniversary of the brain death of Ashley Babbitt.
Good thing I’m not Somali.
Amiright???
Dear Seattle,
We wish to thank you! Thank you, Seattle City Prosecutor, for going backwards in deciding not to prosecute open air drug users and dealers. After making slow but steady progress in reducing the drug use and filth in downtown, you have decided to go back to the old, failed, progressive ways.
This will accelerate the already increasing tide of businesses leaving downtown – with many heading our way across the lake.
Bellevue business and construction is increasing – while Seattle’s commercial occupancy rate is decreasing.
For this – we thank you.
Sincerely,
Bellevue
Apparently a franchisee-owned Hilton hotel in Minneapolis decided not to accept any reservations from DHS.
That didn’t work out well. Hilton corporate, mindful of what happened to Bud Light, very quickly terminated the contract with the franchisee.
Guess there’s gonna be one more Somali-owned downtown brothel in the Twin Cities pretty soon. At least you’ll still be able to book the penthouse Walz Suite.
We are not being told the truth about this Venezuela fiasco. Trump has no business interfering in other nations.
Much rather end up with a brothel than being a complicit Nazi.
9 – Yes, National Socialism is bad. Almost as bad as being a liberal progressive.
@10 Been huffing helium?
Aldrich Ames, a CIA officer convicted in 1994 of spying for the Soviet Union, died in a Maryland federal prison on Monday at age 84.
12)Although against the Death Penalty,, wouldn’t have raise a fuss if he got it. He got some of our moles killed. Would have given Walker and Pelton the DP too if it had been available. Both put our submariners in Danger, the former also sold secrets to the Soviets that were probably shared with Hanoi. Some think he also was responsible for the Pueblo, but the Soviet’s weren’t happy NK seized it(but didn’t mind getting the crypto gear).
8,
The MAGA media blockade has so far proven unsuccessful at preventing reports getting out of new atrocities taking place in the wake of the TACO invasion. Chavenist death squads are now patrolling the cities, confiscating phones, and disappearing political opponents and dissidents. CIA assets are contributing to the chaos and unrest in order to create a new humanitarian crisis to which the “benevolent” US can “respond”.
There can’t be any US oil investment in Venezuela without there first being a “crisis” provoking a US takeover. As the humanitarian situation continues to deteriorate, and as the civilian body count climbs amidst a few well staged and well documented civilian atrocities, look for some kind of attack on a suspiciously vulnerable U.S. naval vessel with moderate casualties but spectacular made for television optics.
Hope that clears up any of your confusion.
“All Title 10 troops in Portland, Los Angeles, and Chicago are conducting demobilizing activities,” U.S. Northern Command stated. “They will return to their home units once their demobilization is complete.”
Stopped cold. Buh bye.
https://www.northcom.mil/Missions/Homeland-Defense/Federal-Protection-Mission/
Reports are now confirmed that ICE Fat Asses have shot and killed a bystander present during one of their ill planned and chaotically executed theatrical stunts in Minneapolis this morning.
Bovino was present on the scene.
There can’t be any US oil investment in Venezuela without there first being a “crisis” provoking a US takeover.
i.e. as with Argentina, “America First”.
I have my doubts. The orangies are too into assklowning themselves to rise (lower?) to the level of the empty suit Bushies.
But I’m reading they’re pretty busy pirating tanker oil. And putting the stolen oil up for sale.
17,
They won’t go far seizing single hulled, end of life, nearly derilict oil tankers. Disposing of the hulls isn’t easy and nobody wants to buy them. Again, more a show of force than any actual strategy for obtaining oil from Venezuela.
Every Repuke is a Conman and Crook.
https://apnews.com/article/arizona-former-lawmaker-sentenced-petition-signatures-000b469e3aa411cffdaf645fb1dbc378
From Minnesota Public Radio on the Minneapolis murder this morning of a bystander observing another one of Bovino’s theatrical performances:
Emily Heller lives near 33rd and Portland and said she woke up to a commotion outside her home. She said she saw a car blocking traffic on Portland Avenue that appeared to be part of a protest against federal law enforcement operations.
Heller said she heard ICE agents telling the driver, a woman, to “get out of here.”
“She was trying to turn around, and the ICE agent was in front of her car, and he pulled out a gun and put it right in — like, his midriff was on her bumper — and he reached across the hood of the car and shot her in the face like three, four times,” Heller said.
Field Marshall Bovino got the troop’s blood up for this one.
and he reached across the hood of the car and shot her in the face like three, four times,” Heller said.
Dumb C*NT!! Was she black? Or arab?
Hilton corporate, mindful of what happened to Bud Light, very quickly terminated the contract with the franchisee.
Ok over half of Americans won’t have any any use for Hilton.
https://www.natesilver.net/p/trump-approval-ratings-nate-silver-bulletin
dumbfuck can pop a bud light now that it’s off cancel – see pants shitter and Dana White.
@ 14
Chavenist death squads are now patrolling the cities, confiscating phones, and disappearing political opponents and dissidents.
They were doing that before the US grabbed Maduro, too. The difference is you were OK with it before.
@ 22
… can pop a bud light now that it’s off cancel
Nah. Just sell naked puts.
FAFO, libbies.
I’ve seen the first composite videos of the shooting.
Looks like a murder to me.
Let me be clear, the individual doing the shooting was masked and unidentified. As a federal agent putatively executing a removal order he has no authority to engage in traffic control. As the video begins the victim’s vehicle is turned partially sideways to the snow and ice covered street at an angle having apparently just pulled away from the curb in an attempt to leave the area. The victim pauses to allow another bystander vehicle parked behind her that was also pulling out to proceed ahead of her. As the other bystander vehicle clears the area but before the victim vehicle can proceed an unmarked pickup speeds forward toward her and comes to a halt blocking her from proceeding. Two masked individuals emerge from the pickup and begin marching toward her vehicle. The masked driver of the pickup moves directly toward the drivers door and begins to try and pull the door open violently. At the same time that the victim’s attention is drawn to her left by the masked individual attempting to force his way into her vehicle, another unmarked vehicle has pulled in front of the victim and exited his vehicle on her right. The masked driver of this unmarked vehicle exits his vehicle and begins immediately to draw a handgun from a waist holster and move around to the front left of the victim while her attention is still drawn further to her left by the other masked individual trying to force her driver’s side door open. She begins to reverse her vehicle to pivot to avoid the individual on her left trying to force her driver’s door. Then she proceeds to move forward in her original direction of travel before she was blocked and the second masked individual with the handgun opens fire from her left as she passes him. He continues to fire as she moves past him and moves away from him.
In several still frames isolated from various angles it can be clearly determined that the shooter was clear of the vehicle and its direction of travel as he opened fire and continued to fire. And no other individuals were threatened by the victim’s movement at that time. It can clearly be seen that after the shooter approached from the front left he planted his feet on the street in a staggered position and leaned toward the moving vehicle reaching toward the victim with his handgun and firing across the left front fender at the victim.
The victim having presumably become incapacitated from being shot in the face, her vehicle moved down the open street ahead of it and struck a parked car coming to a stop. All of the masked individuals present immediately retreated from the scene before taking up position to prevent other bystanders from rendering aid.
From the sounds accompanying the videos it appears that at least three rounds were fired at the victim. Still photos of the victim’s vehicle taken after the shooting show only a single bullet hole in the windshield located immediately next to the front left pillar (A pillar) about four inches above the bottom of the glass. All other rounds were presumably fired through the driver’s window or at the rear of the departing vehicle.
The location of the single windshield bullet hole is consistent with the eyewitness reports that the masked shooter was moving and reaching toward the victim’s vehicle and to the left of it when he opened fire.
I don’t see anything in any of the photos or videos available so far to indicate in any way that this victim was using her vehicle as a weapon at any time. She very clearly appears to be trying to leave the theatrically chaotic scene along with other motorists. At first she appears to be trying to turn her car around. But then when she notices another motorist leaving going in other direction she stops to let them pass. By that time her original intention to turn 180 degrees is blocked by one of the shooting team vehicles and she has come under attack by masked gunmen. So she reverses and then begins to proceed away from them when she is shot dead.
Let me explain why I’m tediously and painstakingly documenting what appears in these videos and images.
This one doesn’t appear close at all to me. And I’m going to suggest that you probably aren’t going to find many experienced prosecutors of gun crimes who have had to analyze shooting scenes who will disagree with that. Yes, any number of cops and Badge Bunnies will attempt to portray this as somehow “objectively reasonable”. But they are neither unbiased nor objective in their thinking.
The reason this needs documenting, and the reason everyone should begin doing so right now is that this MAGA regime obviously can’t afford to have it accepted that their stupid, theatrically performative force shows are in fact deadly to the citizens they are supposed to protect. They can’t afford for the people to see what they are really doing here, which in this case is murder.
So they are going to retcon the fuck out of this. This masked Fat Ass goon who got his gun off for sport, no matter what we learn about how untrained, incompetent, overworked, and unqualified he may be, is going to be portrayed as a hero. They knew this would happen eventually. They planned for this. And they will put those plans into action.
It is literally up to every single one of us to watch those original, unedited videos as soon as they become available, slow them down frame by frame, analyze the movements and actions, and see the truth of this for what it is. And then repeat that truth unwaveringly and unapologetically over and over again until it drowns the fake MAGA narrative. Pay attention now to how many media reports credulously pass along the false narrative issued by the spokesliars employed by the administration. Remember that these are demonstrated and proven to be liars (Abrego Garcia’s tattoos, etc). Yet despite that, and despite the obvious need for objectivity about a tragedy like this one, the major media will fall into the lazy habit of adopting the government frame. And that frame (from DHS/White House) will be a false one.
Perhaps the slimy troll of widbee can inform us of the true makeup of teh “Cartel de los Soles” based on in depth on the ground reporting by Nick Shirley.
The assklowns running DOJ can’t cope.
@25 FAFO, libbies.
Well, since you were there, and saw it with your own honest-as-Jesus eyes, we’ll just have to take your word for what happened.
Video evidence, after all, doesn’t mean all that much to folks like Kristi Dogkiller, Greg Bovino, Tricia McLaughlin, and their supporters like you when it doesn’t show what y’all want it to.
Funny how Bovino always seems to not just be present, but making himself the star of the show, at “their stupid, theatrically performative force shows,” including this one.
Kristi puppy killer cosplayer called it: “an act of domestic terrorism”
By a braindead minion of the Bovino posse.
When next the fucking asshat troll responds also remember this:
to MAGAt turd ass lickers like him, lying is a patriotic duty to the cause. We all know and we’ve all seen over the years how extravagently and frequently the Fucktard lies. And this moment will be no exception. The entire movement will take up the lies once the adminstration makes up its mind what they are to be.
It’s preordained, and therefore perfectly reasonable to ignore. They know the things they spew are lies. They don’t care.
Don’t you care either. Just keep telling the truth.
This one is for the moldering widbee dumbfuck:
https://youtu.be/2MNLISHWrD0?si=BIQKfgx-HbV8FWW8
RFK Jr’s phone has a duck ringtone.
As in “quack quack”…
The victim has been identified by her mother as Renee Nicole Good, 37.
Please standby for late breaking reports of her public library fines and that math test she cheated on in 8th grade from the pathetic lying MAGA troll.
@33 She’s right, but confused about who the domestic terrorists are.
lying is a patriotic duty to the cause.
I seem to recall countless youtube videos trying the paint the murder of Heather Heyer in Charlottesville as the fault of antifa.
https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hatewatch/unraveling-unite-right-conspiracy-theories/
kreepfuck approved.
Btw, the murderer Fields was severely mentally ill. Medicated. Schizo. The whole nine yards. Clearly required for initiation into white supremacy and the Bovino posse.
@36 Well, it’s now established she wasn’t a “protester,” just a hapless victim of a road-raging ICE gunman.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/she-was-an-amazing-human-being-mother-identifies-woman-shot-killed-by-ice-agent/ar-AA1TLENE
An MD present at the scene was prevented from rendering lifesaving assistance by federal Fat Asses. Bovino’s CamoClown Show left their locked vehicles strewn throughout the streets of the neighborhood surrounding the victim so that when paramedics arrived they were forced to abandon their aid unit and get to the victim on foot.
Her family should get $5 million in compensation. Since this administration gave $5 million to the family of a genuine domestic terrorist, they can find another $5 million for the family of an innocent victim of government-sponsored domestic terrorism.
Please standby for
A daily wire produced documentary starring Katie Miller on the “communist” and “domestic terrorist” executed by the Bovino posse.
Dwight D. Eisenhower
All the problems of the world are caused by Heterosexual Neanderthals.
Under these circumstances, any credible investigation from Minnesota BCA should have already obtained subpoenas and orders from a court to be served to DHS under these circumstances to prevent the shooter from exiting the jurisdiction.
One way you’ll know if this is being done legit is if that has taken place. OTOH, if we learn that the investigation is being “careful, deliberative, and cautious” in its approach and thus allows DHS to relocate the murderer to another jurisdiction to challenge state extradition then Minnesotans should dump every incumbent Democrat they can.
Given ICE’s very low hiring standards, cursory training, and management’s encouragement of aggressive tactics and arbitrary arrests, it’s inevitable that innocent people will die.
When ICE is in town, everyone should stay in their homes, because the streets are no longer safe from the GOP’s random political violence.
The cruelty of this administration has no limits:
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/latest-news-trump-maduro_n_695bb603e4b0d6beb5fd9469/liveblog_695ebd75e4b0b3db6e4d7e52
Not that a doctor could’ve done much for a point-blank headshot.
“A theater professor at Austin Peay State University in Tennessee who was fired in September for his ‘insensitive’ social media post after Charlie Kirk’s assassination” has gotten his job back, an apology from the college, a $500,000 settlement, the college will pay for his “therapeutic counseling” arising from his firing.
All the professor did was repost, without comment, Charlie Kirk’s own words about gun violence in America, as follows:
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/darren-michael-austin-peay-state-university-fired-charlie-kirk_n_695ea871e4b05f1e1aab36da?origin=home-latest-news-unit
The college conceded that, under pressure from a wingnut GOP senator, it did not follow “proper termination procedures.” FAFO, eh dumbfuck?
If Trump seizes Greenland by military force, the next president could, and I assume would, simply give it back to Denmark.
It’ll probably be Trump himself, however, who pardons Maduro upon payment of the usual bribes.
Elijah @ 26
The shots were fired by a third LEO. There were the two who jumped out of the truck and who I agree were out of the way.
The shots were fired by the third guy, who was in her vehicle’s path at the time he fired.
Only one bullet hole in the windshield? Perhaps the other projectiles missed.
I have to say I am surprised, Elijah. All of the angles you claim to have seen video from (I’ve seen three) and you couldn’t find the third guy?
Your assessment is poor. Amateurish.
@ 49
It’ll probably be Trump himself, however, who pardons Maduro upon payment of the usual bribes.
You are conflating DJT47 with his immediate predecessor.
Here is a video that shows enough.
The third LEO is the only one who unholsters. At the time he takes aim the vehicle is moving forward and heading straight. At the time he fires the wheels begin to turn right. She might have intended to miss him but he had no way of knowing that at the time he fired.
Watch the gunsmoke from the first shot, watch the acceleration, and watch the wheels. Nothing else matters. Other than the proximity of his (closest) fellow officer to his bullet path, which is probably the only possible error he made.
At the time he takes aim the vehicle is moving forward and heading straight. At the time he fires the wheels begin to turn right. She might have intended to miss him but he had no way of knowing that at the time he fired.
Uhhh kreepee crime scene investigator dumbfuck.. If the braindead bovino minion had time to unholster, then it certainly had time to step out of the way of the vehicle. Didn’t the vehicle backup first?
Nice try. How “amateurish” of you.
@ 53
… had time to unholster, then it certainly had time to step out of the way of the vehicle.
Shorter YLB: Instead of shooting back at perps cops should just run and hide.
YLB never disappoints.
@ 53
Tell us you didn’t watch any of the videos without telling us you didn’t watch any of the videos.
Pretty much the last word on the lastest pants shitter jihad over munee for medicaid, daycare, what have you – in only blue states of course (heaven forbid, Mississippi):
Here it’s useful to look abroad, to note how differently the welfare state works in some peer countries. The assistance programs of Western and Northern Europe tend to be universal, meaning they offer help to everybody, while the programs in the United States tend to be targeted, meaning they serve narrow, carefully defined sectors of the population. That creates incentives to game the eligibility criteria. Another difference is that the European governments are more likely to provide housing or deliver services like childcare directly. The United States, by contrast, outsources more of that work to the private sector, which means there are more opportunities for organizations and businesses to raid the public treasury.
This system didn’t develop by accident. It’s the result, in part, of a decades-long campaign by conservatives to limit or shrink the size of government, and to privatize public services whenever possible. And while there are plenty of intellectually defensible arguments for this approach—like a philosophical preference for lower spending and taxes or belief the private sector will be more efficient and innovative—it does require more aggressive oversight.
https://www.thebulwark.com/p/the-real-story-behind-the-minnesota-welfare-fraud-scandal
As always blame is easily laid at the foot of the klownservaturds and their sicko-phants like teh kreepee widbee dumbfuck.
Now you know how it feels.
Tweet du jour:
@ 57
Say YLB, why couldn’t Byrd just have “gotten out of the way” instead of shooting Ashli Babbitt?
Instead of shooting back at perps cops should just run and hide.
Crime being stuck in traffic. and being scared of armed masked thugs.. Nice..
37 year old WHITE woman died.
“That’s so stupid” that she was killed, Ganger said, after learning some of the circumstances from a reporter. “She was probably terrified.”
Ganger said her daughter is “not part of anything like that at all,” referring to protesters challenging ICE agents.
“Renee was one of the kindest people I’ve ever known,” she said. “She was extremely compassionate. She’s taken care of people all her life. She was loving, forgiving and affectionate. She was an amazing human being.”
https://www.startribune.com/she-was-an-amazing-human-being-mother-identifies-woman-shot-killed-by-ice-agent/601559922
And kreepee dumbfuck, hiding disappointment that Good wasn’t Somali or wearing black (antifa) or arab, is one of the dumbest dumbfucks in existence.
@ 56
As always blame is easily laid at the foot of the klownservaturds…
Because YLB is all about easy. Otherwise YLB would have to consider that a targeted non-profit assisting a minority group – The United Negro College Fund in this case – has been around since 1944. UNCF is an assistance program, after all.
And considering means giving thought to. And YLB does not do thinking well at all.
why couldn’t Byrd just have “gotten out of the way” instead of shooting Ashli Babbitt?
Damn the stupid…
Byrd gave fair warning to a violent insurrectionist climbing through a window broken by the mob who could have had weapons or a bomb in the backpack..
She paid no heed, she FAFO’d.
The former repuke House Speaker said Byrd “did his job” – protecting the House of Representatives.
If she’d been wearing black and a mask, you’d be all ANTFA over her.
Again the stupid… IT BURNS…
@ 60
37 year old WHITE woman died.
You forgot poet.
You forgot lesbian.
The United Negro College Fund in this case – has been around since 1944. UNCF is an assistance program, after all.
Do they get federal funds? Do they work in blue states? In Mississipi?
Were they founded as a “private sector” alternative to a government run program?
Are they run by BLACKS?
Pffftt.. Next on the list then.
@63 Is that important?
Add to kreepuck’s disappointment that she was a biological female.
@ 62
… who could have had weapons or a bomb in the backpack..
And the woman who bought it today could have floored it and turned the steering wheel to the left.
You see, YLB< when you introduce "coulda" as part of your argument, you might as well pull the trigger for the LEO. That's how much you help his claim of self-defense.
Extra credit for making Elijah facepalm, tho.
@ 65
Is that important?
No less important than your decision to point out that the woman was WHITE, and use all caps to do it.
@59 For the same reason Secret Service agents didn’t “get out of the way” when a madman opened up on Trump.
Geez Mackenzie Scott has given generously to UNCF.
Guess there’s no need there for federal funding – they can be safely cut off.
Behold my friends lie number one.
Intentionally omitted from the lying piece of shit’s retcon is this passage from my narrative:
“At the same time that the victim’s attention is drawn to her left by the masked individual attempting to force his way into her vehicle, another unmarked vehicle has pulled in front of the victim and exited his vehicle on her right.”
As clearly described, this Fat Ass masked gunman moves around to the driver’s side while unholstering his handgun and immediately begins to open fire. There are now dozens of still shots of the moment of the weapon discharging showing that the masked attacker was several feet clear of the path of the vehicle to the driver’s side when he began to fire.
These will be the lies.
These will all be adopted knowingly by the fascist orange yogurt slurping cowards like the troll in service to their own weakness. They chose to back violent deadly fascism. That is an irreversible choice.
In technical terms the lies will shift and morph as the days and weeks ahead unfold. But the core claim will be that a Fat Ass who was never in any danger from this poor woman opened fire on her at point blank range intending to kill her because she wasn’t doing what he wanted her to do.
That’s murder by any real, workable definition.
And the woman who bought it today could have floored it and turned the steering wheel to the left.
Wow look at it find every way it can to excuse a white female stuck in traffic being executed by masked armed thugs.
No less important than your decision to point out that the woman was WHITE..
Merely having a laugh at your disappointment dumbfuck.. No worries. Pictures of BLACKS in cuffs, being wrestled to the ground, even being executed are soon to come. Necks being knelt on perhaps?
This is the fascist moment you’ve waited a lifetime for dumbfuck.
Sure, bigot.
There are now dozens, including ring cams that show the murder.
The piece of shit intentionally chooses one of the first to be made public from an angle behind where the shooting takes place so that it is harder to see if the Fat Ass is in any danger.
But even this is a fail. If you consult the original file (before Nazi Chat compression and other altering) you can see from specific timeframes the forward most Fat Ass planting his feet in a shooting stance and taking aim at the driver well clear of the moving vehicle. His upper body is obscured but his feet and the weapon are clear as day.
Unambiguously he was never in any danger. He shot her because he was angry and frustrated, not because he was afraid. Those are different things, even if cops try to conflate them.
ftfy liar.
She was at idle speed until the moment of her death. And turning to the right or to the left are things that people do when they are pulling out from a parking space to clear a chaotic scene intentionally created by untrained and incompetent DHS crisis actors.
Cars drive around in streets. This is a normal thing. People flee masked men with guns. This is a normal thing.
Kitting yourself out with a stars and stripes cape and a backpack and trying to launch yourself through a window you just broke out to breach the Speaker’s Lobby of the Capitol is a very not normal thing. It’s a very suspect thing, even without the preceeding rioting and cop beatings.
And for everyone’s enjoyment here’s this:
https://www.adn.com/resizer/v2/4NQ3LW2IMAOC226ZXZ572VDWQY.jpg?auth=16c1bc2f1efc4d02ad73aef8a14f8d8ecf7c154cfdbb6242b54d0faaae38dd74&width=1440&height=959
That’s a Capitol police officer providing chest compressions.
As opposed to standing around pointing guns at everyone trying to help and waiting for the sad, deluded idiot to die.
https://www.adn.com/resizer/v2/4NQ3LW2IMAOC226ZXZ572VDWQY.jpg?auth=16c1bc2f1efc4d02ad73aef8a14f8d8ecf7c154cfdbb6242b54d0faaae38dd74&width=1440&height=959
No. I do not know how that feels.
And neither do you. Because you are dead.
Behold my friends, lie number 2.
The ridiculously false claim that Ms. Good was “shooting” at anyone. Obviously this is a lie. Observe closely. They will continue to mount.
Why did a military veteran climb through a window broken by a rioting mob trying to halt a Constitutionally mandated transfer of power?
She took an oath to defend the Constitution, not some bloated orange con man.
Shorter lying MAGA troll:
The bottom line is this: when a federal officer gives you instructions, you abide by them and then you get to keep you life
Unless you are stabbing them in the neck with a modified cattle prod or beating them to death with a hockey stick.
Then you are a tourist grandmother with a quirky fashion sense and you get to do anything you like.
OK, so Trump has the boys kidnap Maduro and has him up on charges in New York. Hmmmm…why didn’t Trump kidnap Netanyahu and turn him over the International Criminal Court to face justice?
Some quick analysis of the relevant MN statute which would control.
609.066 of the MN criminal code puts the burden of proof on the state to show, beyond a reasonable doubt, that the officer was not acting in self defense.
This is, as far as his lies and dissembling allow, about as good an aproximation as possible of the defense that the lying piece of shit troll is parroting from the MAGA mediasphere to us today.
Under the given circumstances and in light of the statue it would be very difficult if not impossible for the state of Minnesota to prove this with regard to the first shot fired. His “state of mind” is his alone. And a reasonable jury will conclude that “fear” is possible here. Reasonable doubt certainly exists as to his state of mind when he was firing the first shot. And while we may objectively conclude from the video evidence that he was not in danger, the state statute grants him that claim.
But additional shots were fired. We will have to await balistics and of course the DHS Fat Asses controlling the scene will have done everything possible to destroy the physical evidence. But the video and photo evidence is enough to establish a lawful and valid prosecution claim that for the subsequent shots fired the Fat Ass may not claim self defense. And under the same statute controlling the prosecution of LEs who murder in the line of duty, there is the following:
“To effect the arrest or capture, or prevent the escape, of a person whom the peace officer knows or has reasonable grounds to believe has committed or attempted to commit a felony and the officer reasonably believes that the person will cause death or great bodily harm to another person…”
Interpretation of this part of this statute is constrained and governened by the Supreme Court in Tennessee v. Garner 471 U.S. 1 (1985). So although a vehicle may be treated as a lethal weapon, under the cirucumstances there are no “reasonable grounds” to claim the belief that after the first shot was fired and the vehicle was passing safely to the officer’s right the driver would immediately cause “death or great bodily harm”.
So in summary, for shot 1, by statute, the officer may claim a belief that the victim was using her vehicle as a deadly weapon and that he was in credible fear for his life of the lives of others.
However, even if consequent to that claim, the officer has “reasonable grounds to believe (the victim) has committed or attempted to commit a felony” to obtain the protection of the statute for the subsequent shots the officer must still prove that he “reasonably believes that the person will cause death or great bodily harm to another person..” at the point where she is driving safely away from him and his fellow officers.
An arrest warrant may issue based on the subsequent shots fired into the driver’s side of the vehicle by the masked assailant as the vehicle passed safely by him.
This is what I think the conclusions of the Hennepin County Prosecutor ought to be.
Dr. Oz’s prescription for America’s health care system is seniors shouldn’t retire, they should keep working.
https://www.rawstory.com/oz-seniors-work-longer/
That will go over well with senior voters as we approach the midterms.
@75 – Good! I made my point.
@62 Byrd and his two fellow officers were absolutely the last line of defense between members of Congress and the raging mob. And, incidentally, the nuclear codes were only a few feet away.
@66 And the woman who bought it today could have floored it and turned the steering wheel to the left.
And George Floyd might have had a hand grenade in his pocket, so that made it okay to choke him out.
Nope, dumbfuck, this doesn’t make it in a court of law when you’re charged with murder. Basically you’re arguing that anyone in a vehicle is fair game for crazed ICE gunmen because of what they might do with the vehicle. However, to invoke self-defense, it’s only what they do do with the vehicle that counts. And she didn’t do that with the vehicle, so your argument is dead in the water.
Got a question for you. If someone sees you driving, should they open fire on you, because they think you might run them over? Or do they have to hold their fire until you actually try to run them over?
Dipshit.
@80 Oh look, the “fleeing felon” statute the troll has long claimed doesn’t exist. The same troll who claimed Officer Darren Wilson was in mortal danger from Michael Brown.
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-military-2674858370/
This should go over well with voters who are being cut off from health care, food stamps, and child care.