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Friday Open Thread

by Carl Ballard — Friday, 12/19/25, 8:26 am

Good morning.

  • Seems like a few relatively dry days in Seattle, but our friends in Portland have filled the pipe (it’s down again now).
  • I don’t know how much a Sara Nelson endorsement will matter in 2 years. But being the kind of person who endorses her, may be a vulnerability.
  • Man, fuck ICE for coming to New Holly, but really impressed by the organizing.
  • Confidential to the guy wearing shorts: No.

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  1. Shoeinhead spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 8:39 am

    You morons!

    You idiots!

    You imbeciles!

    Kamala Harris?

    Really?

    -Shoeonhead

  2. Everyoneelse spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 8:45 am

    You morons!

    You idiots!

    You imbeciles!

    A child rapist?

    Really?

    -Everyoneelse

  3. Vicious Troll spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 9:10 am

    There’s a reason other than AI that the stock market keeps climbing:

    Peter St Onge, Ph.D.
    @profstonge

    The BLS says we lost 41,000 jobs in 2 months.

    But control for Federal layoffs and we gained 121,000.

    Control for deportations and we gained 300,000.

    The “Weak” job numbers are entirely made of Federal layoffs and millions of illegals going home.

    4:30 AM · Dec 19, 2025

    Former federal employees looking for private industry work push up the unemployment rate, too.

  4. Vicious Troll spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 9:27 am

    Say, who’s looking forward to the December 2025 CPI figures when they’re released next month?

    LOWCOUNTRY, S.C. (WCIV) — Holiday travelers may be receiving a welcome gift at the pump as the holidays approach. GasBuddy, North America’s trusted source for fuel savings, predicts that the national average price of gas on Christmas Day will land near $2.79 per gallon, below last year’s price of $3.
    …
    “Provided there are no surprises; holiday travelers should see pump prices that come in a bit lower than last Christmas. We’re also seeing encouraging early trends as we prepare to release our 2026 Fuel Outlook in January, with signs that lower prices could continue into next year,” said De Haan.

  5. Vicious Troll spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 9:30 am

    @ 2

    Not quite “everyone else”:

    CNN
    https://www.cnn.com › harris-2024-campaign-biden
    Oct 8, 2024 — Vice President Kamala Harris said Tuesday that she couldn’t think of anything she’d have done differently than President Joe Biden during …

    I’d like to thank the ladies of The View for helping to seal Boxcheck Momala’s loss to that twice-impeached convict.

    Although we could have done it without you, it was so much more fun with you.

  6. This Post is Antisemitic spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 9:38 am

    The foreign press isn’t playing. Peace you say?

    Who is gonna want to be part of a stabilization force if Israel is effectively using Gaza as a free fire zone?

    RUBIO: These are the things we’re working through right now

    By any metric, the Israelis are flouting the ceasefire Trump negotiated by killing an average of 2 children a day, not allowing aid into Gaza. How long can the Israelis be allowed to show such disrespect to President Trump?

    RUBIO: That’s your characterization about ‘disrespect’

  7. lmao spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 9:42 am

    Winning ugly.

    But still winning. Go Hawks (12-3).

    The Rams are now 11-4 but no doubt they’re a strong team.

  8. Vicious Troll spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 9:43 am

    Liberals hate Flock cameras because the cameras are sometimes why they get caught.

    Brooke Taylor
    @Brooketaylortv

    Here’s how they found him:

    Police put out a picture of a second person (who sources tell me is homeless) and asked for help in finding him. The Attorney General says he came forward and “blew the case open,” by offering a vehicle description that matched video evidence. Before the homeless guy came forward he posted the description on Reddit, according to an affidavit.

    The license plate was captured by Flock cameras (license plate recognition devices widely used in Rhode Island). The plate led police to a car rental agency in Massachusetts. Agents obtained surveillance footage of the suspected shooter and a copy of the rental agreement with the suspect’s name.

    8:06 PM · Dec 18, 2025

    New cameras were put up on Mukilteo Speedway a couple of miles from the ferry. A few months ago I received two warning letters in the mail. The same day the second warning letter arrived the camera caught me doing about 50 in a 35 zone while I was rushing to make the ferry. $145 citation. Now I drive 35 or less when passing that camera. Since then, a second camera went up, across the street from an elementary school at the top of the hill.

    Flock cameras keep people from breaking the law, and provide needed municipal revenue when they do.

    And who knows how many elementary school students I might have accidentally run over at 12:55 a.m. if not for those cameras?

  9. Vicious Troll spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 9:47 am

    @ 7

    Amazon TV crew did a nice job explaining the rationale for going for 2 in advance of the decision. Kudos to the prep people for making sure that info was at hand.

  10. lmao spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 9:50 am

    2 months.

    Over the year.. Over a million layoffs. Couple that with prices at the grocery store, the Walmart, the Targets that no modest income American is happy with and you have

    stagflation..

    Oh but there’s “growth” in billionaire AI slop data centers (rolls eyes).

  11. lmao spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 9:56 am

    Liberals hate Flock cameras because

    all the info they capture is collected centrally and will be used by pants shitter nspm-7 dept of fascism to track and target people who despise and protest their white nationalist policies as is their 1st amendment right.

  12. lmao spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 10:00 am

    Peter St Onge, Ph.D.

    Heritage foundation hack and racist (“illegal” is a dead giveaway).. Let’s see pants shitter put him up for BLS.

    Should work out just as well as the last jerk.

  13. lmao spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 10:07 am

    So much for those phony peace deals:

    Trump hosted the presidents of Rwanda and the Democratic Republic of Congo at his newly renamed Donald J. Trump Institute of Peace, hailing the two leaders for launching “a new year of harmony and cooperation.” But on the ground, the fighting raged on. Days after Trump’s Washington peace summit, the Rwandan-backed M23 militia group seized the key Congolese town of Uvira, forcing 200,000 people to flee.

    Then, on Dec. 7, fierce fighting once again erupted along the border between Thailand and Cambodia, reigniting a conflict Trump claimed to have resolved

    Trump’s proudest accomplishment, his 20-point peace plan for ending the war in Gaza, appears to have stalled.

    no country has been willing to put up troops for the international force meant to disarm Hamas. Trump has delayed the announcement of his “Board of Peace,”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/12/19/trump-peace-deals-unraveling/

    Pathological narcissists don’t make peace (“pants shitter institute of peace” (rolls eyes)). They stroke themselves silly.. ALWAYS.

    Orange pants shitter will never, ever, ever receive the Nobel Peace Prize.

  14. Vicious Troll spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 10:12 am

    @ 10

    Couple that with prices at the grocery store, the Walmart, the Targets that no modest income American is happy with and you have

    stagflation..

    The problem with that claim is that the rate of inflation is decreasing.

    Home sale prices are falling.

    YLB, give this. couple of more months and you’ll be panty-twisting about deflation.

    It’s really not your fault. Here’s BofA (Fortune, August 8):

    Bank of America Research economists remain convinced that the Federal Reserve will not cut interest rates in 2025, despite a recent wave of disappointing jobs data fueling market speculation of an imminent policy shift. The reason, according to a new research note: The U.S. economy is headed toward a battle with stagflation—not recession—and cutting rates could worsen that toxic mix of stagnation and inflation.

    There have been two Fed rate cuts in the 135 days or so since that report was published. The June and July CPI figures were 2.7% inflation over the previous 12 months. This week’s released inflation figure was…

    wait for it…

    2.7%.

    The tea leaves are not nearly as strong as you would like to believe, YLB. Falling gasoline prices are not consistent with a stagflationary environment.

    Netflix and chill. All I want for Christmas is for Darryl’s facepalm bruise to heal.

  15. Vicious Troll spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 10:16 am

    @ 13

    Orange pants shitter will never, ever, ever receive the Nobel Peace Prize.

    Yassir Arafat did. How’d that work out?

    Melania will never be on the cover of Vogue. All that snub did was give Bezos the opportunity to feature her on Amazon Prime, while lining the Trump family pockets with another $40,000,000.

    Silly awards for public posturing are overblown, but they capture the imaginations of the lowbrow set.

  16. lmao spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 10:24 am

    @14 keep jerking yourself over a BLS compromised by pants shitter hackery.

    Americans aren’t happy about the cost of living. They’re livid and have been punishing repukes at the ballot box.

    Businesses will only pass more and more of pants shitter’s looting tariffs on to consumers.

    Home prices falling? LMAO.. They’ve been bid up and overpriced for decades. The shitty economy has yielded no buyers for the ponzi. They come down enough, demand picks up and private equity will only acquire more of them.

    All I want for Christmas is for Darryl’s facepalm bruise to heal.

    translation: I want Darryl to notice me.. me.. pleez Darryl pleez.. pretty pleez.. with sugar on it?

  17. lmao spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 10:31 am

    while lining the Trump family pockets with another $40,000,000.

    Wow.. that skin flick should go over as well as the silly hack job Bezos did on Tolkien.

    Kissing orange ass doesn’t put a dent in Bezos’ stride, see taking bubble baths with wifey on the mega yacht.

    It’s other people’s munee that floats stroking the pants shitter. The U.S. has joined all the other asswipes in the world who require their palms be greased to allow bidness to happen.

  18. Elijah Dominic McDotcom 🇺🇲🐸🇺🇲🌊 spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 10:32 am

    BIGGEST MOST SHOCKING LATE BREAKING FRIDAY NEWS ALERT!!!

    MAGA/GOP White House is refusing to obey the new law recently passed requiring “full release” of Trump’s Pedophile evidence.

  19. lmao spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 10:35 am

    Silly awards for public posturing

    lmao.. This from the silly “man” who touted pants shitter’s prospects for the NPP.

  20. FKA Hops spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 10:47 am

    Don’t count these unemployed because they used to make sure your water was safe to drink, food didn’t have e coli, cleaned the national parks, investigated corporations breaking laws, prosecuted crimes…

    Good post

  21. Vicious Troll spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 10:49 am

    271,000 fewer federal employees. A good start.

    DOGE achieved something unprecedented: cutting the federal workforce by nine percent in less than 10 months. That’s 271,000 jobs—the fastest peacetime reduction on record.

    Earlier this week some HA libbie posted about government employees paid not to work. Another term for that is severance.

    Now some of those 271k employees are out looking for real jobs. Which pushes up the unemployment rate.

    I’m OK with that.

  22. Grand Old Pedophiles spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 10:50 am

    Say, anyone read the Times?

    Speakerphone conversations

    Speculation on if a girl was old enough to have pubic hair Jeffrey could floss with.

    “Don’s Best Friend”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/18/us/jeffrey-epstein-donald-trump.html

    We’re fucked for decades

  23. Vicious Troll spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 10:51 am

    @ 20

    Don’t count these unemployed because they used to make sure your water was safe to drink, food didn’t have e coli, cleaned the national parks, investigated corporations breaking laws, prosecuted crimes…

    And most importantly, they used to make sure I used the right pronouns.

  24. YOU WILL BE CHRISTIAN IN AMERICA spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 11:26 am

    What’s cool is how Dr. Oz talked about ‘building a penis’ for a child even though AMA guidelines and every clinic in the country won’t do bottom surgery unless:

    Patient is over 18

    Has been living as preferred gender for a minimum of a year

    Has been in psychological therapy and has TWO recommendations from board certified therapists.

    Alejandra Caraballo
    @esqueer.ner

    At the HHS announcement yesterday announcing proposed rules to ban GAC, they said trans people are “at the root of the evils we face” and are “a hatred for nature as God designed it and for life as it was meant to be lived.”

    Just in case you thought it was about concerns for proper healthcare

    Alejandra Caraballo, a civil-rights attorney, clinical instructor at Harvard Law School’s Cyberlaw Clinic, and nationally recognized LGBTQ+ rights advocate. Her legal career has spanned asylum work with the New York Legal Assistance Group, national impact litigation at the Transgender Legal Defense & Education Fund, and teaching the next generation of tech-policy lawyers.

  25. Nelson Muntz spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 11:30 am

    @23

    Wow, got’im. 6-7!

    Skibbidy.

  26. Failed Austrian Painters League spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 11:49 am

    @24

    Sub ‘trans’ for ‘Jews’ and you’re there.

  27. GYAT Rizzler spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 12:03 pm

    @8

    Reddit user u/deepinyermom does what Kash Patel’s FBI could not.

  28. Cool Story Bro spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 12:58 pm

    @4

    Anyone looking forward to Household Energy bills (+15-18%) in January?

    Anyone looking forward to health insurance premiums statements in January?

  29. Grand Old Pedophiles spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 1:15 pm

    From the ‘we are so fucked’ file

    Elise Stefanik
    @EliseStefanik

    While spending precious time with my family this Christmas season, I have made the decision to suspend my campaign for Governor and will not seek re-election to Congress. I did not come to this decision lightly for our family.

    I am truly humbled and grateful for the historic and overwhelming support from Republicans, Conservatives, Independents, and Democrats all across the state for our campaign to Save New York.

    However, as we have seen in past elections, while we would have overwhelmingly won this primary, it is not an effective use of our time or your generous resources to spend the first half of next year in an unnecessary and protracted Republican primary, especially in a challenging state like New York.

  30. lmao spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 1:25 pm

    I have made the decision to suspend my campaign for Governor and will not seek re-election to Congress.

    bye bye pants shitter sicko-phant.. you weren’t always that way.. you said pants shitter was “wrong” to boast about its pussy grabbing.

    Being a suck up sicko-phant worked wonders for you.

    Maybe Bill Ackman will give you a job.

  31. Elijah Dominic McDotcom 🇺🇸🐸🇺🇸 🌊 spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 1:47 pm

    Anyone looking forward to health insurance premiums statements in January?

    January premiums are due by Jan 1st to be in effect and avoid being dropped. Marketplace customers have until Jan 15th to select a plan and pay a first month’s premium for coverage starting Feb 1st for the rest of the year.

    That’s why there are still no GOP townhalls. And also why Newhouse is bailing out and leaving an open seat in a district that has been trending the wrong way for MAGA.

    Unfortunately, because of the way Schumer and Jeffries handled this, for now at least it’s not productive for Democrats to capitalize on this. But they’ll have time later on next spring as the medical bankruptcies pile up and kids start dying on waiting lists.

  32. Vicious Troll spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 1:58 pm

    @ 24

    AMA guidelines and every clinic in the country won’t do bottom surgery unless:

    Patient is over 18

    Has been living as preferred gender for a minimum of a year

    Has been in psychological therapy and has TWO recommendations from board certified therapists.

    This is blatantly false in SO many ways.

    First, the AMA does not issue guidelines. It points to its Journal of Ethics, which in turn points to WPATH.

    WPATH breaks down the under-18 category into adolescents and children.

    Adolescents:

    The following recommendations are made regarding the requirements for gender-affirming medical and surgical treatment (All of them
    must be met):
    6.12- We recommend health care professionals assessing transgender and gender diverse adolescents only recommend
    gender-affirming medical or surgical treatments requested by the patient when:
    6.12.a- The adolescent meets the diagnostic criteria of gender incongruence as per the ICD-11 in situations where a diagnosis
    is necessary to access health care. In countries that have not implemented the latest ICD, other taxonomies may be used although
    efforts should be undertaken to utilize the latest ICD as soon as practicable.
    6.12.b- The experience of gender diversity/incongruence is marked and sustained over time.
    6.12.c- The adolescent demonstrates the emotional and cognitive maturity required to provide informed consent/assent for the treatment.
    6.12.d- The adolescent’s mental health concerns (if any) that may interfere with diagnostic clarity, capacity to consent, and
    gender-affirming medical treatments have been addressed.
    6.12.e- The adolescent has been informed of the reproductive effects, including the potential loss of fertility and the available
    options to preserve fertility, and these have been discussed in the context of the adolescent’s stage of pubertal development.
    6.12.f- The adolescent has reached Tanner stage 2 of puberty for pubertal suppression to be initiated.
    6.12.g- The adolescent had at least 12 months of gender-affirming hormone therapy or longer, if required, to achieve the desired
    surgical result for gender-affirming procedures, including breast augmentation, orchiectomy, vaginoplasty, hysterectomy, phalloplasty,
    metoidioplasty, and facial surgery as part of gender-affirming treatment unless hormone therapy is either not desired or is
    medically contraindicated.

    See page 50 of https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/26895269.2022.2100644

    Nothing there about turning 18. Nothing there about two separate medical opinions. Oh, and “bottom surgery”? Yeah. It’s there.

    The only thing correct about @ 24 is the need for hormonal therapy first.

    Kudos to the WPATH group for not suggesting that it’s OK to cut the ‘nads out of prepubescent children.

    I’d like to congratulate the author of @ 24 for pointing out the need for yesterday’s new regulations.

  33. Vicious Troll spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 2:09 pm

    @ 30

    Maybe Bill Ackman will give you a job.

    Maybe Donald Trump will give her a job. A high-profile job until it’s time to run for Chuck Schumer’s seat.

  34. Vicious Troll spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 2:14 pm

    I’d like to congratulate Joe Biden, Boxcheck Momala, and Tim Walz for a job very well done.

    Ken Martin, the chairman of the D.N.C., said on Thursday that he had decided not to publish a report that he ordered months ago into what went wrong for the Democratic Party last year. Party officials have conducted more than 300 interviews with Democrats in all 50 states to create a document that Mr. Martin had once pitched as crucial to charting a path forward.

    Mr. Martin will instead keep the findings under seal.

    Biggest winner: YLB. Oh, and transparency!

  35. Donnie Paycheck Trump spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 2:19 pm

    I have a plan now. It was just concepts but now….

    I’m going to ask insurance companies to pretty please lower the premiums.

    This is just something I thought of standing here listening to these great leaders…

    I bet if I called a meeting with the insurance companies the various companies that are involved in Health Care costs I would be willing to bet, I think that they would lower their prices we could have very fair Health Care.”

    No one comment on my palsy half face droop

  36. Triggered spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 2:26 pm

    @32

    Guy who doesn’t know what HIPAA is in regards to testifying about a patient wants to get pedantic about a layman description.

  37. lmao spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 2:55 pm

    Maybe Donald Trump will give her a job.

    lmao.. UN ambassador sure. She’ll do a fantastic job blowing kisses to Pootie. Unlike Nimarata.

    A high-profile job until it’s time to run for Chuck Schumer’s seat.

    She’ll lose, big fucking time. She even admitted it in her statement.

    especially in a challenging state like New York.

    All the Dem has to do is play tapes of her lying for pants shitter.

    Schumer should be primaried but that doesn’t mean he can’t squeak out another term. My guess he hangs it up. He’s 75.

  38. lmao spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 3:02 pm

    Mr. Martin will instead keep the findings under seal.

    As always orange pants shitter is working wonders for Dems, thank you very much.

  39. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 3:20 pm

    @1 Broken record player. You know, repeating something an infinite number of times doesn’t make it any more true than it was the first time. If you voted for Trump, you’re the idiot, not to mention a bad citizen and irresponsible voter.

  40. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 3:23 pm

    @3 As if federal employees are non-persons, aren’t consumers, and their job losses don’t harm their families or the economy …

    There’s a reason why we call you a “dumbfuck.”

  41. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 3:25 pm

    @29 @30 Good riddance.

  42. Daily Dorsal Hand Vein Infusion spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 3:27 pm

    Huh.

    So it wasn’t a “Palestinian terrorist” after all.

  43. Speaker Kelly spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 3:31 pm

    Pam really wants a Contempt of Congress impeachment in 2027.

    The Attorney General shall … make publicly available in a searchable and downloadable format.”

    NYT:

    The DOJ “website also contains a search function, though it is unclear if it’s working properly. A query for ‘Epstein’ returned no results.”

  44. Vicious Troll spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 3:33 pm

    Alternative @ 36

    … wants to get pedantic …

    Liberal: The AMA guidelines prevent cutting the penis off of a minor and no hospital will do it to a minor.

    Me: Neither of your statements is correct. Here is a link proving it.

    Liberal: Well, if you want to get pedantic about it…

    That’s probably as close as you can manage to admitting your statement was ignorant and false. I’ll take it.

  45. Elijah Dominic McDotcom 🇺🇲🐸🇺🇲🌊 spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 3:41 pm

    A high-profile job until it’s time to run for Chuck Schumer’s seat.

    The next election for Chuck Schumer’s seat will begin with candidate announcements in the fall of 2027, while (assuming he remains alive) Fat Hitler is still in office, still on television every day offending New York voters and mocking women, still shitting all over the economy, still desecrating JFK’s name, still invading peaceful communities with National Guard, and still concealing the evidence of his decades of pedophilia with his best friend Jeffrey Epstein.

    She’ll have to wait out eight years for a shot to run in a Trump-free atmosphere. Like Hailey, Stefanik is done. And she’s far from being the only one.

  46. Pepperidge Farm Remembers spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 3:54 pm

    @ 44,

    Nah.

    With more than a decade of carefully proven lying under your belt here, nobody is ever going to search painstakingly through a 260 page monograph to discover how many new lies you are authoring today.

    It’s a price you pay for being a liar.
    You should have known that. You were warned after all.

  47. RedReformed spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 4:18 pm

    Did anyone notice Trump did not mention the promised stimulus check for working folks and seniors in his last speech given a few days ago ?
    Hey, troll, was the felon lying then?

  48. Revere the Memory of the Dead Charlie spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 4:24 pm

    Steve Bannon had thoughts on Rob Reiner at Tuning Points conference today.

    You raised a kid that slit your throat!’

  49. RedReformed spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 4:25 pm

    DOJ won’t meet Friday deadline to release all the Trump Epstein files
    I’m sure the republicans will get right on this….
    Mike Johnson adjourns the house early to avoid the Trump Epstein files or voting on Healthcare cuts.

  50. RedReformed spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 4:55 pm

    A surge of slop: last month, TikTok announced that greater than 1.3 billion videos on its platform are AI-generated.
    As of late 2024 and early 2025 data, over half (52%) of TikTok videos involve some form of AI element, whether it is a filter, a voiceover, or a fully AI-generated avatar or visual. Other reports mention that AI-generated short-form videos account for 52% of total content.
    >> And older people and less educated people and more conservative people are more likely to believe they are real.

  51. Elijah Dominic McDotcom 🇺🇸🐸🇺🇸 🌊 spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 5:10 pm

    Bannon had thoughts on Rob Reiner

    As we all know, a “conservative” would have done it right and put his kid at the top of a clocktower with Marine sniper training on your kid’s college campus.

  52. FKA Hops spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 6:18 pm

    The lies of the Dumbfuck are easy to find because he’s lazy.

    WPATH is an international organization.

    July 8, 2024—A new study by researchers at Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health found little to no utilization of gender-affirming surgeries by transgender and gender-diverse (TGD) minors in the U.S
    …
    The study found no gender-affirming surgeries performed on TGD youth ages 12 and younger in 2019. This was expected, the researchers said, as current international guidelines do not suggest any medical or surgical intervention for TGD individuals prior to puberty. For teens ages 15 to 17 and adults ages 18 and older, the rate of undergoing gender-affirming surgery with a TGD-related diagnosis was 2.1 per 100,000 and 5.3 per 100,000, respectively. A majority of these surgeries were chest surgeries. When considering use of gender-affirming breast reductions among cisgender males and TGD people, the study found that cisgender males accounted for the vast majority of breast reductions,

    And just for good measure, Stanford states patients MUST be 18 AND they follow WPATH.

    So yeah, to a layman, the fact that a document says something is possible/permissible, while not ever having been done in the United States as a matter of clinical policy…

    THERE ARE NO CHILDREN GETTING BOTTOM SURGERY.
    Womp womp

  53. Vicious Troll spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 6:39 pm

    @ 48

    You raised a kid that slit your throat!’

    POS House member Jamie Raskin raised a kid who blew his own head off. Which Jamie Raskin greatly prefers to having his throat slit by his kid.

  54. Vicious Troll spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 6:42 pm

    @ 52

    And just for good measure, Stanford states patients MUST be 18 AND they follow WPATH.

    So we’ve gone from “No minors undergo phalloplasty procedures in the US.” to “No minors at this one private institution in California undergo phalloplasty procedures”.

    Those are not the same statements. The second one is cherry-picking.

    But there’s a positive result of this. You’ve learned:

    • what WPATH is
    • that you need to be more careful when making blanket statements without any facts to support you

  55. Why don’t they repect. spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 6:46 pm

    @53

    We ARE Charlie Kirk.

  56. Vicious Troll spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 6:48 pm

    The Washington, D.C. police chief’s last day was today. She was forced to resign after being caught forcing her underlings to change the crime statistics in their precincts.

    Her last parting comment? “You should investigate those folks.”

    By that she meant the whistleblowers.

    Behold the fruits of DEI, libbies.

  57. Brown Killer spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 6:59 pm

    I killed 2 people and wounded 9. And you don’t want to talk about me anymore?

  58. Womp Womp spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 7:05 pm

    @54

    Forest/trees.

    Passed off an international group as USA

    Surgery is rare in US.

    Surgery is Breasts

    Most are reductions by CIS males

    A clinic chosen at random.

    The burden remains on you to fond a single documented under 18 bottom surgery patient in the USA. Much less a ‘child’ as Dr. Oz insisted was happening.

  59. Elijah Dominic McDotcom 🇺🇲🐸🇺🇲🌊 spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 9:47 pm

    The lies of the Dumbfuck are easy to find because he’s lazy.

    Yes.
    Certainly.
    Of course they are.

    Which is why you shouldn’t.

    He said it.
    Ergo it IS a lie.
    That is the rational analysis until such time as the lazy fucking POS manages to prove otherwise.
    “Liars lie” is a pretty reliable rubric as far as logic gets us.

  60. Roger Rabbit spews:

    Friday, 12/19/25 at 9:57 pm

    Interesting First Amendment case out of the University of Washington.

    https://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2025/12/19/24-3518.pdf

    I wonder how it would apply to attempts by Trump to withhold federal funding from the university because of curricula or professor viewpoints he doesn’t like? Such as an instructor criticizing Israel’s actions in Gaza?

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