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Fastow got sentenced to 6 years this week for the Enron mess. Not enough, but it’ll have to do. Bernie Ebbers started his 25-year term in Louisianna this week, also. Ebbers will probably (hopefully) die as a “guest” oif the Feds. It’s to bad Ken Lay died: he should have done a lot of time, too.
Bush isn’t incompetent – he’s incapable. You have to be capable doing something before you can be incompetent at doing it.
Worst Presidency Ever and the Rubberstamp Republican congress cheering them on.
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It’s just like old times. Bill Clinton delivers an impassioned speech, and within 24 hours the Web is bristling with documentation, establishing that nearly every sentence was a lie.
The glassy-eyed Clinton cultists are insisting their idol’s on-air breakdown during a “Fox News Sunday” interview with Chris Wallace was a calculated performance, which is a bit like describing Hurricane Katrina as a “planned demolition.” Like an Osama tape, they claim he was sending a signal to Democrats to show them how to treat Republicans. Listen up, Democrats: Let’s energize the undecideds by throwing a hissy fit on national television!
The Clintonian plan for action apparently entails inventing lunatic conspiracy theories, telling lots of lies, shouting, sneering, interrupting, and telling your interlocutor, “(Y)ou’ve got that little smirk on your face and you think you’re so clever” — all for asking a simple question. To wit: “Why didn’t you do more to put bin Laden and al-Qaida out of business when you were president?” The only thing Clinton forgot to say to Wallace was, “You’d better put some ice on that.”
Let me be the first to welcome Chris Wallace to the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy! If the son of Mike Wallace is a member, can Chelsea be far behind?
According to Wallace, Clinton’s aide, Jay Carson, demanded that the interview be stopped a few minutes into Clinton’s tantrum — just before the part where he threw the lamp at Wallace. The last time Clinton got that red in the face, the encounter ended with a stained dress. Even Muslims thought Clinton overreacted. But the Clinton Kool-Aid drinkers tell us this was a masterfully planned set-piece by their leader.
I also think Jessica Savitch’s slurred, incoherent broadcast on “NBC Nightly News” in October 1983 was intentional. Others say it was drug-addled breakdown that ended her career, but obviously Savitch intended to speak in garbled gibberish on air as a brilliantly executed prelude to her death in a ditch weeks later.
And when Stephen Colbert did a routine at the White House Correspondents Dinner that bombed, I think he planned it that way.
Then there was Capt. Joseph Hazelwood’s meticulously planned off-loading of 11 million gallons of crude oil off the Exxon Valdez.
Clinton shouted so many lies during his televised meltdown, only the World Wide Web can capture them all. These are just a few.
Clinton yelled at Wallace: “What did I do? What did I do? I worked hard to try to kill him. I authorized a finding for the CIA to kill him. We contracted with people to kill him. I got closer to killing him than anybody has gotten since.”
This is so crazy it’s worthy of an Air America caller. Clinton has consistently misrepresented the presidential directive about political assassinations. Clinton did not order bin Laden assassinated. He did not even lift the ban on intelligence agencies attempting to assassinate bin Laden.
What he did was lift the ban on political assassinations — provided that assassinating bin Laden was not the purpose of the mission. So if U.S. forces were engaged in an operation to capture bin Laden, but accidentally killed him, they would not be court-martialed.
Clinton said, “All the right-wingers who now say I didn’t do enough said I did too much — same people.” As proof, he cites his humiliating withdrawal from Somalia, claiming, “They were all trying to get me to withdraw from Somalia in 1993 the next day after we were involved in ‘Black Hawk down,’ and I refused to do it.”
He added, as if it mattered, “There is not a living soul in the world who thought that Osama bin Laden had anything to do with ‘Black Hawk down.'”
In fact, what Republicans objected to was Clinton’s transforming a U.N. mission in Somalia to prevent mass starvation into a much grander “nation-building” exercise — something the Democrats now hysterically support in Darfur and oppose in Iraq.
Democrats long to see American mothers weeping for their sons lost in a foreign war, but only if the mission serves absolutely no national security objectives of the United States. If we are building a democracy in a country while also making America safer — such as in Iraq — Democrats oppose it with every fiber of their being.
When Clinton’s “nation-building” in Somalia led to the brutal killing of 18 Americans, some of whose corpses were then dragged through the streets, Clinton did what the Democrats are currently demanding we do in Iraq: He cut and ran.
Republicans didn’t like that either, and it had nothing to do with whether it was al-Qaida we were running from. It could have been Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah, al-Dawa or the Viet Cong. We ran, and the terrorists noticed.
Osama bin Laden told “ABC News” in 1998 that America’s humiliating retreat from Somalia emboldened his jihadists: “The youth were surprised at the low morale of the American soldiers and realized more than before that the American soldier was a paper tiger and after a few blows ran in defeat.”
If this is the message that Clinton is hoping to telegraph to the American people, I hope the voters are listening.
JCH
“Fair use” demands that you EXCERPT what you want to steal, attribute it and link to the rest.
Yeah, Republicans don’t like “nation-building,” all right. Notice their refusal to rebuild Iraq.
That ad is brilliant. Putting Cheney’s words in Reichert’s mouth is devastating.
You can run, Dave, but you can’t hide.
Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean made a fundraising stop Tuesday a block north of the Capitol to show support for local Democrats running for office. “We want to be a moral beacon for the rest of the world again,” Dean said. “We are a great country. We just have bad leadership, and we can change that, and you can change that because remember: you have the power.” The fundraiser,… drew a crowd of about 100. [……………So, Leroy said to LeWanda, [2 or the 100 in the Afro crowd], “Hey, Don’t wes get a mother fucking credit card at this Democrat meetin?”]
Former President Jimmy Carter says the Bush administration made a “serious mistake” by invading Iraq and diverting attention away from the U-S mission in Afghanistan. Carter made the comment today at a campaign stop for his son Jack Carter. [………….Er, Jimma, Remember 1979/1980……….Iran………………Remember Desert One? “Gonzo Station”? CH 53s? SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!]
[Howard Dean Fires Up Austin Democrats]
“We are going to take back Texas”, even if we need to import another 10 million Mexican illegals to vote Democrat!!!!
john craig, go back to the only thing you are adept at, the Indo navy ship just docked!
In Hawaii they have a saying: the only difference between jch and a gay sex slave is ‘a 6 pack of Miller’
Good ad, but that part at the end with Reichert’s lips supposedly moving was super cheeseball and unnecessary. We get the point without lame CG like that.
JCH – Why don’t you start your own blog so your zero readers can read your posts there?
“When Clinton’s “nation-building” in Somalia led to the brutal killing of 18 Americans, some of whose corpses were then dragged through the streets, Clinton did what the Democrats are currently demanding we do in Iraq: He cut and ran.
A) President Clinton inherited that mess from Bush 41 who allowed the UN to dictate the use of US military forces.
B) Nearly 3,000 American have been brutally killed in Iraq and 20,000 wounded from a disastorous “Stay the course” to failure policy.
C) You’re a lying sack of shit.
another one gets busted
Human Resources Mgr for the neocon press flagship, the Washington Times, got busted for soliciting sex with a 13 year old girl (more @ huffcngtonpost). Another right wing ‘christian’ got caught with there pants down. (sorry jch, this wingnut liked girls)
I think we should blow-off Iraq. Once we’re out of there, the locals will settle their diffences among themselves.
Ronald R. Reagan – the Original Cut-N-Runner (Lebanon – 1983)
A National Guard unit assigned to Operation Jump Start observed a vehicle driven by DNC Chairman Howard Dean attempt to drive through the International Border fence near the San Ysidro Port of Entry.
Yesterday, at 8:30 a.m., the National Guard unit was patrolling the border area in a helicopter when the pilot and Border Patrol agent observer spotted a white-colored vehicle attempting to drive over a portion of the primary border fence. The fence had been cut away from its supports by a blowtorch. Once cut, the vehicle then rammed the fence and pushed it down. While attempting to use the downed fence as a ramp, the vehicle became stuck. Witnesses in Mexico reported upwards of twenty individuals lead by REP Nancy Pelosi holding Democrat voter registration forms exiting the vehicle and running back into Mexico.
Units from the Tijuana Police Department arrived on scene and seized the blowtorch equipment that had been used to cut the fence. U.S. Customs and Border Protection Border Patrol agents arrived to take custody of the vehicle used in the failed attempt. Record checks were conducted on the vehicle’s plates and it was determined that the vehicle had been reported stolen. The vehicle was taken to the San Ysidro Port of Entry where searches by K-9 and non-intrusive devices were performed. These searches yielded negative results and the vehicle was turned over to the San Diego Police Department.
This incident serves as a stark reminder that smugglers of human cargo will go to great lengths utilizing any tool at their disposal to further their criminal enterprise with total disregard for human life.
re 3 “…bristling with documentation…” You crack me up.
re 3: Belief in the necessity of the “War on Terror” is only possible if one believes in the al Qaida “conspiracy”. Are you a CONSPIRACY THEORIST about the war on terror.
A yes or no answer will suffice.
This little goodie from a reader showed up in this mornings “Vent” in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.
“The money spent on the light show displayed outside the Superdome Monday night could have been better spent on the Katrina recovery effort and the suffering Democrat poor.”
Where do these fools come from?
The money spent on the light show outside the Louisiana Superdome on Monday night went to the people who manufactured all of the components of the the lighting equipment, the people who manufactured the actual final product, the people who marketed the lighting equipment, the people who transported the lighting equipment, the people who set up the lighting equipment, an the people who operated the lighting equipment. These people have rent or house payments to pay, food to buy, cars to pay for and families to support; and they are able to do these things because there are consumers out there in the marketplace who purchase and use the products they manufacture and the services they offer.
Then we get some full-fledged liberal jerk come along and say that these people should be denied this income so that the money could be given to the poor, poor, pitiful suffering Democrat poor … some of whom were probably watching the whole spectacle on their 42 inch Sony HDTV sets looted during Katrina.
Headless Lucy……..Let’s kill the Mooooooooooslims before they kill any more Americans. It is that simple.
Great, comprehensive article in today’s Seattle Times about Maria!
Cantwell becomes a money machine
By Alex Fryer
Seattle Times staff reporter
“Maria Cantwell promised to take the money out of politics when she announced her candidacy for the U.S. Senate six years ago.
A vice president for RealNetworks worth about $35 million, Cantwell vowed to spend more time with voters than with big-time donors, rejecting political-action-committee (PAC) contributions and the Potomac cocktail-party circuit.
Now seeking re-election, Cantwell retains her no-PAC pledge, but instead of remaining aloof from the hunt for campaign dollars, she has become one of the most prodigious fundraisers in the U.S. Senate.
RealNetworks stock tanked before the 2000 election, and she found herself in a precarious financial position from the day she arrived on Capitol Hill.
Embarking on an aggressive effort to fill her campaign coffers and repay bank loans, Cantwell has, so far, brought in $16.8 million — a sum that her staff proudly boasts puts her in league with New York’s Hillary Clinton.
From Bel Air to Martha’s Vineyard, Cantwell has attended receptions and dinners in her honor. She’s courted the Seattle music scene and flown by corporate jet to meet the people who write checks big and small.
Maria Cantwell’s top contributors
Total donations by company from owners, employees or their immediate families:
Microsoft: $108,900
Baron & Budd, a Dallas law firm: $60,500
Preston Gates & Ellis, a Seattle law firm: $55,611
Boeing: $37,100
University of Washington: $32,250
Source: Center for Responsive Politics
In just the past 18 months, Cantwell has attended 300 fundraisers, and her daily calendar almost always includes a pitch for cash.
It hasn’t been easy. Cantwell has weathered complaints to the Federal Elections Commission (FEC), a grueling travel schedule and criticism that special-interest money still finds a way into her campaign.
She declined to be interviewed for this story.
Funding the 2000 race
After losing her House seat in 1994, Cantwell, then 36, hooked up with RealNetworks, a Seattle Internet company founded by Rob Glaser, a longtime supporter of Democratic causes and candidates.
As vice president of marketing, she was awarded stock as part of her compensation — about 455,600 shares worth about $27 million as of December 1999, according to reports filed by RealNetworks with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
The day after she announced her candidacy Jan. 19, 2000, RealNetworks issued a news release stating that Cantwell would be taking a leave of absence. “We wish her the best in her new endeavors,” Glaser said.
But financial documents filed by RealNetworks indicate Cantwell didn’t begin her leave until April 1, 2000. On April 18, the company noted that Cantwell had 16,800 more options than she did in the beginning of 2000, the result of older stock grants vesting. She also owned 280,000 more shares outright.
Cantwell spent $10 million to unseat incumbent Sen. Slade Gorton, using $6.5 million of her own money plus bank loans with RealNetworks stock as collateral. Four months before the election, she also established a $600,000 line of credit with U.S. Bank secured by her personal home, which was valued at only $375,000.
The National Legal and Policy Center, a conservative watchdog group in Falls Church, Va., filed a complaint with the FEC in April 2001 contending that Cantwell violated election law by securing a loan worth more than the collateral, and that she had received preferential terms from U.S. Bank.
The FEC ruled neither complaint had merit, though it chastised the Cantwell campaign for failing to timely report financial information.
Money problems surface
Determining Cantwell’s net worth is difficult, but it’s safe to say she arrived in D.C. with big money problems. RealNetworks stock was worth about $10 a share — down from $78 a share the day she announced her candidacy — and she had $3.2 million in bank loans coming due.
Unlike other candidates who had established a network of supporters, Cantwell’s decision to self-finance meant she had no fundraising team, no fat Rolodex of donors. Her e-mail list had 2,000 addresses.
Between the debt and the lack of contributors, Cantwell was “in a double hole,” said her aide Michael Meehan.
In office just a few months, the freshman got a big lift from Clinton, who debuted her new Washington, D.C., home in a Cantwell fundraiser. And that was just the beginning.
Flight logs from BellSouth’s corporate jet provide a glimpse into her schedule.
Leaked to reporters, the logs show dozens of lawmakers were shuttled across the country by private plane. Cantwell took five fundraising trips to Atlanta, Boston, Nantucket Island, Charlottesville and Stanford, Fla., from 2002 to 2004.
Most of the travel was reimbursed — at the cost of first-class commercial airfare — by the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee (DSCC), which raises money for Senate candidates.
According to flight manifests, a BellSouth lobbyist accompanied Cantwell on all the trips.
Meehan said Cantwell traveled by corporate jet on only a handful of occasions for DSCC functions. She once used a private plane to attend an event that raised money for her campaign, but Meehan doesn’t recall who owned the aircraft.
As for spending time with lobbyists during the flights, Meehan said: “Senators tend to sleep. There isn’t a lot of chit chat.”
Today, Cantwell has an e-mail list of 100,000 names.
No-PAC pledge
Beating Gorton by 2,229 votes in 2000 meant Cantwell was considered instantly vulnerable, and national Democratic leaders worried about her financial situation. Early on, Minority Leader Tom Daschle and others urged Cantwell to break her no-PAC pledge to raise more money, but she refused.
PACs, formed by corporations, labor unions and interest groups to make political contributions, are allowed to give federal candidates $5,000 for the primary and an another $5,000 for the general election. By contrast, individual donors are allowed to give only $2,100 per election.
While Cantwell has pledged not to accept PAC money, much of the same money finds a way to her campaign account.
Cantwell has refused checks from PACs created by politicians, but she has accepted $45,968 from other candidates’ personal campaign funds. For example, Sen. Patty Murray gave Cantwell $1,750, but Murray’s PAC, M-PAC, gave nothing.
According to Political MoneyLine, a nonpartisan database of campaign-finance reports, the United Association Political Education Committee, a PAC created by the plumbers and pipe-fitters union, gave Cantwell $10,000 this year. Other labor PACs gave an additional $10,500, the database shows.
Meehan said Political MoneyLine got it wrong: Cantwell routinely returns unsolicited checks, and sometimes they don’t get counted correctly by watchdog groups.
But Cantwell did change her mind about accepting money from the Democratic Party.
After Congress enacted campaign-finance rules in November 2002 that banned unlimited contributions to the DSCC and other groups affiliated with the parties, Cantwell began accepting their help. Hundreds of thousands of dollars have been spent on her behalf by the state Democratic Party and DSCC. Both accept PAC money.
Last year, she created a joint fundraising committee with the DSCC called Washington Senate 2006. Proceeds are split exclusively between Cantwell and the effort to elect Democrats to the U.S. Senate.
Disclosure reports indicate the Tulalip Tribes of Washington wrote a $26,700 check to Washington Senate 2006. Other contributors include Jim Sinegal, president and CEO of Costco ($10,000), and software entrepreneur Paul Brainerd ($5,000). Both men are well-known supporters of Democratic candidates.
The vast majority of money raised by Cantwell — about 90 percent — comes from individuals, most of whom don’t live in Washington state.
Some of them are registered federal lobbyists; others work for the same special-interest PACs that Cantwell disavows.
When asked about his contribution, Ladd Gibke of Plano, Texas, who gave Cantwell $1,000, took a few seconds to place her name.
“Maria Cantwell is running for U.S. Senate, right?” he asked when contacted earlier this month.
An attorney, Gibke formerly worked for Baron & Budd, a Dallas law firm that donates heavily to Democrats. The Center for Responsive Politics lists employees of Baron & Budd as Cantwell’s second biggest contributors, followed only by Microsoft employees.
Baron & Budd specializes in cases involving injuries caused by exposure to asbestos, benzene and other environmental hazards.
The firm’s senior partners are ardent Democrats, Gibke said. And that explains why he’s a financial supporter of Cantwell, whom he can’t recall meeting and, besides her party affiliation, he knows almost nothing about.
“It wasn’t that much to give to help Fred [Baron] and to help what everybody there believed in,” Gibke said. “When the senior partner asks you to help, unfortunately the checkbook comes out.”
Alex Fryer: 206-464-8124 or afryer@seattletimes.com”
Maria is certainly the LAST person to be critical of Mike McGavick. This is the most accurate, comprehensive look at Cantwell by the MSM to date. In addition, it was noted that only 42% of Cantwell’s donations came from Washington State. 42%!!!!
Whereas McGavick received 74%.
Cantwell received more dollars from OUT-OF-STATE than McGavick received in his whole campaign!
OUCH!! No wonder Cantwell refused to comment on this Seattle Times article.
Look for McGavick to tighten up in the polls significantly after this expose.
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re 8: Remember arms for hostages and the 200+ Marines killed in Beirut from which Reagan Cut and Ran. Remember Reagan proclaiming on international TV that he personally freed the Jews from Auswitz. Remember the mixture of pity and horror in the faces of the other officials as they realized that the President of the US was a demented old Alzheimer’s victim?
Remember that the 54 hostages were freed in Carter’s Administration — not the GREAT FORGETTOR’S? And if an arms for hostages deal was cut by Reaganites before Reagan took office (which it had to have been), or even before the election, were’nt these men illegally undercutting the elected President?
He should have slammed Wallace with a haymaker!!!
Can’t answer , JCH, can you?
Anyone who thinks Former Insurance Company CEO, Golden Parachutists, Drunk Driver, and George W. Bush Rubberstamp Wannabe is going to beat Cantwell in 2006 is smoking the good stuff.
LEfout
Mike! doesn’t get lots of out-of-state contributions because…wait for it…he’s not a US Senator with the potential to affect nationwide issues (and he’s not gonna be). Do you think if, say, he wins the election that he’ll turn down donations that would result in 75% of his money from coming out of state? Of course not!
Maria pledged not accept funds from PaCs and she kept her promise. Compare that to, say, George Nethercutt and other Republicans reneging on their term-limits pledges. Who’s the righteous one—the person who kept a promise or the person who broke theirs?
And how weird is it that Microsoft and the UW would donate to a tech-savvy Senator who supports their issues? Or the Tulalip Tribes. Democrats traditionally come down in the right side of native American issues, which is why the GOP sent out Jack Abramoff to lie his way into funneling some of their money to Republicans.
It seems you want us to think this is about corruption, when that article does not present ANYTHING that even hints at corrpution. Maria Cantwell has donors? Heavens, I think I may faint! As for this affectign the polls: an article on corruptoin totally would; this is an article that tells us that Senators get campaign contributions. Yawn.
If you think money in any form from any source corrupts, then what will Mike! do for the $28 extra million Safewco gifted him? Ask youself that.
Leftout
BTW, as I told JCH, “fair use” is not pasting entire articles into public fora, it demands that you EXCERPT what you want to steal, attribute it and link to the rest.
“Remember 1979/1980……….Iran………………Remember Desert One? ”
Yeah, I think I remember! Wasn’t that where we suffered 2700 dead Americans and 20,000 wounded, spent over $300 billion, ended up supporting a regime that torures more that the one we overthrew, and is creating a new generation of anti-American jihadists around the world?
Oh, no, I guess that’s Iraq.
Re No. 8,
Was in London Sunday listening to BBC interview possible Blair replacement Gordon Brown. The interviewer was sounding out Brown with re whether he supported Blair’s continuing the UK US alliance with re the WOT. The interviewer was taken aback when Brown started supporting Blair’s positions and saying how the U.S and Britain were in this together, etc etc. The interviewer became increasingly disturbed and was commenting how Jimmah was saying something about how the U.S. would be better off leaving terrorists alone and not bother them. Brown started laughing at Carter’s statements and positions, saying that’s U.S. domestic politics.
Wow, open thread where I can say anything I want. Hmmmmmmm, la de daa, what to say, what to say….
I know, I know, I know….
proudofherfatlyingcheatingthreateningass, Go fuck yourself!!!
I am so proud of myself, I put this in the right thread.
G’day!
Commentby Leftout(of their minds!)— 9/28/06@ 1:08 pm
(I love it when the trolls post the same drivel in several threads. It makes it so easy to answer.)
Just a bit of information for our Republican friend:
Maria Cantwell’s top contributors
Total donations by company from owners, employees or their immediate families:
Microsoft: $108,900
Baron & Budd, a Dallas law firm: $60,500
Preston Gates & Ellis, a Seattle law firm: $55,611
Boeing: $37,100
University of Washington: $32,250
Source: Center for Responsive Politics
Whenever I make a political contribution, I am asked to list my employer. Why would it seem so odd that a lot of Microsoft employees support Ms. Cantwell?
If you just glance at the list, it is implied that the University of Washington has contributed to her campaign. (I’m sure that the folks over at SP will have fun with that one, but most of them have no use for education anyway.) In reality, a lot of UW employees support Ms. Cantwell.
Boeing employees support her. Good for them. So do some law firms. It’s their right to give the maximum amount allowed by law. No ethical problems with that, and nobody is claiming that these contributions are improper in any way.
Now, Safeco giving an unearned “bonus” to their preferred candidate is a different matter. There are laws that prevent major companies from taking corporate money and giving it to candidates. We may not have heard the last of this one.
Will he be giving the money back when he loses? Personally, I hope not. I wish him all the best in his retirement, and if the stockholders of Safeco have any objections, they should take it up with the board of directors that authorized the payment.
But for Mike!, I would suggest that Grand Cayman Island is a wonderful place. Enjoy your retirement, but be generous. Give Mr. Reichert a couple of million to join you there.
re 22: You’re conflating being a Muslim with being a terrorist. That’s a false comparison. Many people, like yourself, feel that there is something drastically wrong with the way the world’s power structure works, but, like you, lack the mental equipment to arrive at any real solutions to the problems we face.
Next thing you know you’ll be comparing being a German with being a Nazi.
The Marshall Plan worked a lot better than punishing the Axis Powers after WWI did.
With the BIG PERSPECTIVE that I know that you view history with, what kind of a conclusion would you draw from that regarding Muslim Extremism? Right now we are heedlessly and ineffectively dealing with it– unless you’re a war profiteer — as each and every member of this illegal banana Republican junta that runs this country is.
Hey! Great business Idea! A BANANA REPUBLICAN LINE OF CLOTHING STORES!
EXTRA! Reichert votes FOR torture bill! Wants to end contitutional protection of habeas corpus! President given power to violate Geneva Conventions! Read all about it!
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“interviewer became increasingly disturbed and was commenting how Jimmah was saying something about how the U.S. would be better off leaving terrorists alone and not bother them.”
Yeah, I’m sure that’s exactly what Jimmy Carter said. Dick.
jch Why not post your drivel on uSP? Are you afraid even your fellow wingnuts won’t tolerate your acidic-sweat type paranoid insanity?
How long has Comcast been your ISP? -Have a nice day! Commentby My Left Foot— 9/26/06@ 10:59 pm
proudofherlyingcheatingthreateningass How much more would like to know? Commentby My Left Foot— 9/26/06@ 11:02 pm
proudofherfatlyingthreateningass: You really are not a good judge of who to pick a tussle with. Commentby My Left Foot— 9/26/06@ 11:05 pm
threat: a direct or implied expression of intent to inflict physical harm and/or actions that a reasonable person would perceive as a threat to physical safery or property.
A threat can be an unwanted (deliberate or accidental) expression of intent to execute action that may result in harm to an asset. The threat can have a form of an explicit or implicit message. The message may be vague and implicit in an attempt to avoid blame, including legal consequences, while still clear enough to serve its purpose.
If my house gets egged, my car gets keyed, my kid gets bullied, I get hang-up phone calls or even a hangnail the information I WILL give to my local police department in my report will be HORSESASS.ORG, Carl Grossman.
Count on it, sweetcheeks
@ 39:
Sounds like Bill O’Reilly and the Fox News cops are going to be at Carl’s door at any moment.
Eeeeewwwwwwwww, we’re all shaking in our boots. NOT!
HowcanyoubePROUDtobeanASS, today’s Worst Person In The World!
Why didn’t President Bush go after bin Laden and al Qeada threat when he had confirmation that they were behind the USS Cole bombing?
Why did he do NOTHING?!?!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15046240/
I’m wrong, Bush actually did take actin regarding the threat of al Qeada. I guess I should have read that article a little more closely.
Bush wrote two, not one, but TWO letters to the President of Pakistan before 9/11.
Looks like ol’ Slick Willy lied to us again when he said “they did not try.”
Enjoy your chuckle, GBS. You may think it’s a just all a grand joke, but I most certainly do not. After speaking with MY legal authority, I can assure you that I will indeed implicate, Mr Grossman AND David Goldstein should anything at all UNTOWARD happen to my family, my property or me.
A veiled threat, an implied threat and a perceived threat are all still very much THREATS.
re 39: Threatening to call the cops on someone because your lamebrain PERCEIVED a threat is , in and of itself, threatening. If you give a false Police report you are in BIG TROUBLE. http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com
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threat: a direct or implied expression of intent to inflict physical harm and/or actions that a reasonable person would perceive as a threat to physical safery or property.
A threat can be an unwanted (deliberate or accidental) expression of intent to execute action that may result in harm to an asset. The threat can have a form of an explicit or implicit message. The message may be vague and implicit in an attempt to avoid blame, including legal consequences, while still clear enough to serve its purpose.
Well proudofherfatlyingthreateningass lets examine that, with the help of my Harvard educated wife.(snicker)
There is nothing in my post that would imply intent to harm anything. There is nothing a REASONABLE person would perceive to be such a threat. (You have proven yourself through your writing, and I am sure in your personal life, to be anything but reasonable. (How is that Catholic upbringing of yours (you know, the “I am am well known as a Catholic” rant of a few days ago)able to reconcile your evilness here at HA? Catholic Church: Largest organization in the world dedicated to the proliferation of child sexual abuse. In addition, it is the worlds largest cult. What is with all the smoke, candles, funny hats and dress wearing priests?
My post asked a question, nothing more. My post also pointed out, correctly so…I might add, that I am smarter, faster and much better at knowing who I am engaging in banter. You underestimated not only my intelligence, but my ability to gather information. I would surmise from your post above that you have issues with your neighbor children and their pranks. Why am I not surprised?
Egg throwing, keying cars, your kids being bullied (not a surprise considering how you act around here) or hang-up calls? The only things you left out are soaping your windows, covering your house in toilet paper and salting the lawn. You must be insane to think I would participate in any of these childish activities. You seem to labor under the assumption that you matter to me. Nothing, and I mean nothing, could be farther from the truth. Are you so starved for attention? As for your hangnail (really, you think this sounds intelligent to blame me for a hangnail, it is neither good parody or a good simily) make good use of it, scratch your ass with it.
As for threats here is one for you:
If my house gets egged, my car gets keyed, my kid gets bullied, I get hang-up phone calls or even a hangnail the information I WILL give to my local police department in my report will be HORSESASS.ORG, Carl Grossman.
Recognize that? You have now threatened me with police action. You have threatened to “out” my wife, our address and other personal information. You have threatened, actually attempted, to make me into a child abuser. I have made copies of every post where you have made even the slightest threat towards me and my family. Might be in your own best interest to shut up.
I also responded to your immediate threat by finding out as much about you as I could. It is in my best interest, as I told you it would be for you too, to know who you are in a tussle with.
Tussle according to dictionary.com is defined as: any vigorous or determined struggle, conflict, etc.: I had quite a tussle with that chemistry exam.
You are in engaged in a struggle to one up me. My politics create a conflict for you. You are frustrated because you keep coming up short. You don’t have the wherewithal to get the best of me here at HA. This results in your lashing out, and feeling of total inadequacy on your part.
I would suggest that you drop this silliness. It does nothing positive for you. You don’t like my language, to which I say, tough shitski….. I have a right to free speech. I don’t object to piglet, pricklet, little man or any of the other names you have used to describe me or my wife. I don’t object because they are not true. I would think then, that you are disturbed by the adjectives I choose to describe you….simply because they are true. You are a prime example of the old adage is very loudly ringing true in your ears as you read this…the truth hurts!
You are again playing with cards that you simply do not hold. You are bluffing. Your bluff is called, and you must fold.
Sucks to be you right, doesn’t it.
Bush isn’t incompetent – he’s incapable. You have to be capable doing something before you can be incompetent at doing it.
Worst Presidency Ever and the Rubberstamp Republican congress cheering them on. Commentby Robert— 9/28/06@ 9:13 am
As I remember he beat the “C+” average guy… John Kerry!
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Sorry for the missing words, I was typing quickly and, well, hey, left out a word or three. Feel free to fill in the blanks.
Again, proudofherfatlyingthreateningass, it really sucks to be you right now, doesn’t it?
Am I the only one who believes proudofherfatlyingthreateningass to be a female?
Oooooops–
I apologize for posting that entire Seattle Times article about smarmy Maria Cantwell and her finances. My cut-and-paste skills sucked.
Here is the link you all requested:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....ney28.html
I’m sure this article will help Maria a great deal.
Remember that the 54 hostages were freed in Carter’s Administration – not the GREAT FORGETTOR’S? And if an arms for hostages deal was cut by Reaganites before Reagan took office (which it had to have been), or even before the election, were’nt these men illegally undercutting the elected President?
He should have slammed Wallace with a haymaker!!! Commentby headless lucy— 9/28/06@ 1:15 pm
Revisionism 101. They were let out after 12:00 Noon 1/1/81 when Reagan was Prez.
Christian Right = American Fascists, the single greatest threat to our freedom.
Today is the 1244th day since the declaration of “Mission Accomplished” in Iraq.
So, the troops aren’t home because? And there are soldiers dying there every day, how is this “Mission Accomplished”?
52…..Carl, agreed. Withdraw the troops, nuke Iran, take their oil, and if any Moooooslims bitch, let them know they will be next.
jch Why not post your drivel on uSP? Are you afraid even your fellow wingnuts won’t tolerate your acidic-sweat type paranoid insanity?
Commentby headless lucy []……….Nope, I’m happy here.]
Time for all Moooooooslims in the USA to return to Moooooslimland. Same with 20 million Mexican illegals. So fucking sorry, Democrats. You’ll lose 25% of your votes.
Listen to B.J. or Hitlery, or watch Keith Olberman or Begala or any other of the Clintoon syncophants, and you continue to see WHY nothing was done about Islamic terrorism during the Clinton administration. They STILL claim the biggest danger to America is “right-wing extremists”, low taxes, capitalism, and the Religious Right. All the leftist group have catchy names like Soros’ “Take Back America,” like American ideals were built on welfare state socialism, and Christianity is highjacking the country.
Historical revisionism at its highest.
If you put a jihadist and any other Muslim next to each other they look the same. Can’t you see where your train of thought is leading you, SMEGMAC?
Commentby headless lucy […Time to thin the moooooooooooslim herd. One country at a time, starting with Iran. Payback for 1979. One Trident will teach the Moooooooooooslims not to fuck with the USA.]
WASHINGTON – The Congressional Black Caucus urged the Bush administration Thursday to push China and moderate Arab nations to pressure Sudan into admitting a U.N. peacekeeping force to help end the violence and humanitarian crisis in its Darfur region. The caucus made the suggestion to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice during a closed-door meeting on Capitol Hill. It came a day after Rice warned in a speech that Sudan faces “a choice between cooperation and confrontation” if it doesn’t allow U.N. forces in. […………Blacks are killing blacks in the Sudan……….This must be Reagan’s fault!! Or Newt’s? Or Bush’s fault!!! Maybe it’s MY FAULT!!!! Oh no!!!!!!!!!!!!!]
If only I paid more taxes, the blacks in the Sudan would not kill other blacks in the Sudan. I FEEL SOOOOOOO GUILTY!!!!!!!
My left foot,
The Mission Accomplished sign was on a aircraft carrier whose mission was completed and they were heading home. If I remember correctly they are based here in this state. If I was there and my unit was coming home, I’d have a damn mission accomplished sign too!
Pretty common stuff in the military…………..
The “Religion of Peace” strikes again….
Writer of ‘anti-Islam’ article gets death threats
SAINT-ORENS-DE-GAMEVILLE, France, Sept 28, 2006 (AFP) — A French philosophy teacher was under police protection Thursday after receiving death threats over an article he wrote in a national newspaper that accused Islam of “exalting violence”, school and police officials said.
Robert Redeker has not attended classes at his secondary school near Toulouse in southern France since September 19, when his opinion column appeared in the right-wing daily Le Figaro.
“He received written death threats in the form of emails. On the face of it they were pretty serious,” said the lycée’s headmaster Pierre Donnadieu.
Police confirmed the threat but refused to comment on the protection Redeker is receiving.
Under the heading “In the face of Islamist intimidation, what must the free world do?”, Redeker described the Koran as a “book of extraordinary violence” and Islam as “a religion which … exalts violence and hate”.
Likening Islam to Communism, he said that “violence and intimidation are the methods used by an expansionist ideology … to impose its leaden cloak on the world”.
Copyright AFP
http://www.expatica.com/actual.....y_id=33407
Egg throwing, keying cars, your kids being bullied (not a surprise considering how you act around here) or hang-up calls? The only things you left out are soaping your windows, covering your house in toilet paper and salting the lawn. You must be insane to think I would participate in any of these childish activities.-Commentby My Left Foot— 9/28/06@ 5:21 pm
You misunderstood carl… I don’t particularly so think you would participate in those things.
However, by your remarks and your vicious attitude I DO feel threatened for the safey and security of my children, my home and my family. It matters not whether you participate, because in the event of any of those, I will make a police report and when they ask me if I know of anyone who MIGHT perpetrate a hateful action, I will indeed give them your name and goldsteins name… because of course, the source of my PERCEIVED threat is permalinked at here his little blog.
And if they don’t ask, I’ll volunteer the information.
Am I the only one who believes proudofherfatlyingthreateningass to be a female? -Commentby My Left Foot— 9/28/06@ 5:33 pm
You don’t know if I’m a paraplegic old man, a vital young woman, a homebound teen bitter from being held back by cancer, a group of college kids with nothing better to do, a middle aged mom, a recently retired executive, an angry gay man or a widowed grandma.
You don’t have a clue whether I’m tall or diminuative, fat, lean, bloated from anti-chemo drugs, malnurished from AIDS, musclebound from weights, blonde brunette or a redhead.
You do however like to imagine and spew the vile and most vicious because it pumps up your flagging manhood. I suppose if I had a “lovely” wife toddling off to a city of virulent men everyday leaving me with the goats I might be tempted to lash out at strangers too. Next time try the little blue pill instead… and thanks for choosing Viagra, it helps the upward direction of my Pfizer stock.
damn.
Egg throwing, keying cars, your kids being bullied (not a surprise considering how you act around here) or hang-up calls? The only things you left out are soaping your windows, covering your house in toilet paper and salting the lawn. You must be insane to think I would participate in any of these childish activities.-Commentby My Left Foot— 9/28/06@ 5:21 pm
You misunderstood carl… I don’t particularly so think you would participate in those things.
However, by your remarks and your vicious attitude I DO feel threatened for the safey and security of my children, my home and my family. It matters not whether you participate, because in the event of any of those, I will make a police report and when they ask me if I know of anyone who MIGHT perpetrate a hateful action, I will indeed give them your name and goldsteins name… because of course, the source of my PERCEIVED threat is permalinked at here his little blog.
And if they don’t ask, I’ll volunteer the information.
Am I the only one who believes proudofherfatlyingthreateningass to be a female? -Commentby My Left Foot— 9/28/06@ 5:33 pm
You don’t know if I’m a paraplegic old man, a vital young woman, a homebound teen bitter from being held back by cancer, a group of college kids with nothing better to do, a middle aged mom, a recently retired executive, an angry gay man or a widowed grandma.
You don’t have a clue whether I’m tall or diminuative, fat, lean, bloated from anti-chemo drugs, malnurished from AIDS, musclebound from weights, blonde brunette or a redhead.
You do however like to imagine and spew the vile and most vicious because it pumps up your flagging manhood. I suppose if I had a “lovely” wife toddling off to a city of virulent men everyday leaving me with the goats I might be tempted to lash out at strangers too. Next time try the little blue pill instead… and thanks for choosing Viagra, it helps the upward direction of my Pfizer stock.
sgmmac,
The “Mission Accomplished” sign was created by the White House. The Navy may have physically put it up – but it was purely at the direction of the White House advance staff. The White House (and the President) LIED about it for months, only to finally admit the lie much later when people like you won’t ever know the difference.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories.....4998.shtml
“For months, the Bush administration denied that it was responsible for the banner, blaming the aircraft carrier crew itself. Since then, White House officials have acknowledged it was their idea.
“We put it up. We made the sign,” Fleischer said. “But I think it accurately summed up where we were at the time, mission accomplished… the mission was to topple Saddam Hussein. “
You don’t know if I’m a paraplegic old man, a vital young woman, a homebound teen bitter from being held back by cancer, a group of college kids with nothing better to do, a middle aged mom, a recently retired executive, an angry gay man or a widowed grandma.
You don’t have a clue whether I’m tall or diminuative, fat, lean, bloated from anti-chemo drugs, malnurished from AIDS, musclebound from weights, blonde brunette or a redhead.
You do however like to imagine and spew the vile and most vicious because it pumps up your flagging manhood. I suppose if I had a “lovely” wife toddling off to a city of virulent men everyday leaving me with the goats I might be tempted to lash out at strangers too. Next time try the little blue pill instead… and thanks for choosing Viagra, it helps the upward direction of my Pfizer stock.
Commentby howcanyoubePROUDtobeanASS [ ……..Er, He’s home every day with Teresa’s llamas…….. Not goats……….. [Carl, do you have goats, too?] I did get your point.]
What a great ad. I didn’t like the lips thing either. I wish Reichert would explain how he votes against the good of the American People at every turn, and for the super rich, and large corporations.
Reichert = Bush Rubber Stamp
Where am I wrong?
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Well, missproudtobealyingthreateningneedstobetakendownapegass:
For starters, no goats. Llamas. I can see how you are so easily confused, what with your A.D.D. combined with your inability to comprehend what you read.
Missy, you enjoy your pretend kids, your pretend family and your pretend fantasy of calling the police when “anything untoward” happens.
As for me, I am going to print out this posting, where you admit that I would not be involved in childish pranks. Where you admit that you will call the police and voluteer my name for no other reason than to harass me, and now, others too.
There is a file here at the house. If you should actually follow through on your insane claims and threats, I promise you this: Teresa and I will take every avenue available to us to insure that our rights and our good name are protected. You are not engaging in anything that frightens us.
For the record, you are a woman. Your word choice and sentence structure scream it. The confusion you feel at being out of control is also quite evident. The continued personal attacks on Teresa indicate an extremely low level of self esteem and self worth. You are attempting to degrade her, I believe, in order that you might feel a bit more equal to her (like that is ever going to happen). I am also fairly certain that you are single, most likely divorced, bitterly.
You have a nice evening. Tuck those pretend kids in and pop open another bottle of MD 20/20, kick back and watch another episode of Gilligan’s Island.
By the way, it occurs to us (taking, what is in our opinion, your apparent mental and emotional instability into consideration) that you may attempt to “fake” something “untoward”. You might want to check with your legal representation, that might be a criminal offense.
You can’t play with cards you don’t have. When will you learn.
Have a good evening.
Carl Grossman
Liberal, Democrat, Proud
Carl’s animal inventory for JCH:
Two Llamas, Bonnie and Clyde
Two golden retrievers, Elvis Pupsley and Buddy Holly
One pot belly pig, Clarence Darrow
One African Grey parrot, JailBird. He talks and barks at the dogs. Drives them nuts. Will tell Elvis, BALL BALL, Elvis gets the ball then barks at the bird who then barks back. Very comical.
Two cats: Thief and Ripper. You can guess why.
“Yes officer I absolutely felt threatened by this person, CARL GROSSMAN on the internet. With the vile and vicious words he spewed I have to seriously consider him a threat and the possibility that he did this vile act or incited others to do it on his behalf.”
You have a nice evening. Tuck those pretend kids in and pop open another bottle of MD 20/20, kick back and watch another episode of Gilligan’s Island.
SPEAK A BIT LOUDER, MR POT…The confusion you feel at being out of control is also quite evident. The continued personal attacks indicate an extremely low level of self esteem and self worth. You are attempting to degrade, I believe, in order that you might feel a bit more equal. I am also fairly certain that you are single, most likely divorced, bitterly.
Sorry to disillusion your fantasy sweetcheeks, still in FIRST and ONLY marriage, closing in on 28 years, with children fortunate enough to have an INTACT family and parents that love each other.
You’re batting ZERO, sweetcheeks.
Which bring us back to you… it would be fascinating to hear from the first Mrs grossman and/or the mommas of the california kiddies and the one in the “military”. I guess the questions that beg to be asked are, is good old teresa you’re desperation sloppy seconds to the one that dumped you or are you the baseball pick-up she settled for to quiet those hardening ovaries of her desperation?
Two Llamas
Two golden retrievers
One pot belly pig
One African Grey parrot
Two cats
does the zoo sufficiently quiet the hardening ovaries or are they just to keep you busy while she toddles off to the city everyday?
68…….It seems you are doing OK for a commie lib. And a very impressive first mate. Many instead of salt water you may get a Heineken.
And for the record carl, protecting your ‘good name’ would be akin to protecting the virginity of a whore.
You voluntarily attached your “good name” to the filth you post…
…the very same filth that’s consciously typed with the fingertips that supposedly makes teresa melt.
… the very same filth that comes from the mind and heart that claims to cherish her.
The dicotomy is staggering. That she would (and has) made excuses for it is mind-boggling.
You do remember, don’t you teresa dear, when you excused his vile mouth and mind by claiming it’s his ‘entertainment’?
Relativism at its finest…
pretty damned hard to claim the high ground from that position.
You sleep well too, sweetcheeks.
Pray to whomever you believe in that no windows get broken, the alarm doesn’t go off, the kids don’t have a nightmare from things that go bump on the night…
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You just don’t give up. The other day I mentioned in a post about your Catholic upbringing and I was not kind. Well, I apologize. I was way too kind:
DELRAY BEACH, Fla. – Two Roman Catholic priests stole millions in offerings and gifts made to their parish over several years, authorities said Thursday.
Monsignor John Skehan, who was pastor at St. Vincent Ferrer Catholic Church for four decades, was arrested Wednesday night on charges that he stole $8.6 million from the church, using the money to buy property and other assets, investigators said.
The 79-year-old priest was arrested at Palm Beach International Airport as he returned from Ireland and was being held on $400,000 bond on grand theft charges.
Good for you. Now you have come up with a pretend marriage. I hope you are disturbed every hour tonight by things that go bump.Whatever the fuck that means.
Again, you choose to attack the wife. Again I tell you that it is your inadequacy that compels you to do so. I feel sorry you and your sorry little life.
When the police come for the report, be sure to spell my name properly. Oh, and give them all that “information” you have on us, they can probably use a good laugh. (snicker)
You know, the best way to protect your “pretend” kids might be to never leave them alone with your parrish Priest.(double snicker)
Thank you for reaffirming your threats. I appreciate it. Teresa appreciates it.
sweet dreams, baby cakes. Sleep well. (snicker)
By the way, I don’t pray. I take responsibility for my life. I don’t depend on an entity that no one has ever seen, that no one has ever spoken to. I alone control my destiny. If you wish to pray to a God, that is your right. I even think “In God We Trust” belongs on the money and “God” belongs in the pledge. But I don’t believe that your belief in God makes you better than me, or gives you some devine right to judge me. (by the way, you seem to judge an awful lot. Isn’t there some Christian or Catholic canon that leaves the judging to God, lest you be judged? Just askin’. (snicker)
When you get to heaven (biggest snicker ever), you might want to ask my “ex” why she had to pass away and leave me and the kids alone, perhaps you can inquire of God as to why she had to die… breaking three hearts and leaving my life as empty as your souless heart. You assume far too much. My kids live in CA because that is where they were raised, where home is. My son, returns there whenever he is back from duty, which is not so often and I go there to see him. I have been stationed all over the world, life does not stop when your wife dies and my entire family sacraficed to help care for, love and raise my children. For my kids, it truly took a village. My home is now in WA. First home I have had in 22 years. First woman who took the time to understand. Make all the fun you wish. Knock yourself out. No, really, knock yourself out.
I told you before, you don’t know me. You don’t know Teresa. All you “know” is what you make up in your empty head, spinning stories from dust.
You again attempted to play cards you don’t have. When will you learn?
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We just love animals. You would not understand the concept of love. They don’t expect anything other than love and they give it in return. Of course animals shy away from evil folks, such as yourself.
I am not sure what the “hardening ovaries” is about? Are you saying she is not woman enough? Are you bragging about your child bearing (very charitable description) hips? Or perhaps you believe that being a mother, pretend or otherwise, makes you a better person? Or maybe you are tying to hurt Teresa’s feelings because you labor under the impression she wants or wanted kids? My kids, never called anyone mom. They were 18 and 19 when Teresa came into their lives. They started calling her mom, no one mentioned it to them.
Your pretend children have to call you mom, I suspect that you would administer corporal punishment if they didn’t. Teresa enjoys a gift that you will never know, the gift of freely given love and the title of mom was bestowed on her, not demanded by birthright. It means so much more the way she received motherhood. Anyone, can spread her legs (you are living proof) for her boyfriend (john) as you claim to have done, and be a mother (so you claim). It takes someone very special to be a mom.
Go fuck yourself!? Not very polite, but very appropriate.
A dead ex… how convenient for your carl… and how utterly predictable that you would again try they sympathy card… I’ll file thaqt right alond witl sloppy seconds diatribe about your scarred belly …
I have no doubt your kids never called anyone mom… I suppose in their broken home(s) they are lucky they even know you.
Here’s what I know about you Carl
I know your name.
I know the sloppy seconds wifeypoo is a corporate attorney (where they go when they haven’t the where-with-all to make it in private practice and the government won’t even hire them).
I know your boken home children live in california.
I know you live on an island (sloppy seconds toddles off on the ferry).
I know you left sloppy seconds home alone about a week or so ago while she stepped in to do your bidding to battle the anonymous strangers who hurt your feelings.
I know sloppy seconds is taking her unemployed husband to Hawaii for a few days in November.
All you “know” is what you make up in your empty head, spinning stories from dust.
And all you know about me is what I’ve told you…
Married ONCE and STILL for 27+ years
Children
Catholic
I’ll give you that you can eliminate the teen, the college kids and the angry gay…
You don’t know if I’m a paraplegic old man, a vital young woman, a homebound teen bitter from being held back by cancer, a group of college kids with nothing better to do, a middle aged mom, a recently retired executive, an angry gay man or a widowed grandma.
You don’t have a clue whether I’m tall or diminuative, fat, lean, bloated from anti-chemo drugs, malnurished from AIDS, musclebound from weights, blonde brunette or a redhead.
I’ll give you something else about me: W
hile I will take any and all steps to protect my family
I am not intimidated.
I do not back down.
I do not give up.
I rarely surrender the last word, but absolutely never to children, punks or vile foul-hmouthed punks that act like children.
So spin your fantasy, big man… I am not the guy supported by my sloppy seconds wife…. and really, what kind of big man gets his jollies being an ass to nameless strangers?
Go fuck yourself!? Not very polite, but very appropriate. -Commentby My Left Foot— 9/29/06@ 1:44 am
And once again, carl, you have reinforced your desperation, your depravity, your singular gutter mind, vocabulary and life. Your monomania is boring.
You are so damned right I’m sanctimonious: proudly and with reason.
BTW did you ask sloppy seconds how she feels having words of love (gratitude) for her come from the same brain that spews your filth?
How about some talk of the total arrogance of “Governor” Queen Crissy treating the tax-payer funded and owned Governor’s mansion as if she personally owns the whole damn thing?!
Your ignorance shines through again. Your complete inablility to comprehend what you read is really amazing.
My first wife died a horrible death. Cancer.
My children do not come from a broken home. Unless you want to curse God for breaking the home.
I am sure your husband has been able to maintain his marriage with you by supplementing his needs with various and sundry concubines. The distraction helps him cope.
As for Teresa, her salary would suggest she is a fine attorney. So dream on.
As for hurting my feelings, it is you who is in pain, not I.
What I know is that you are a bitter, sad shell of a woman.
You might examine your post for words of filth. The difference is I don’t use the thesaurus to flower up my posts. Shit is shit with me, not poop or excrement. Just plain shit. Like you. A pile of shit.
I would say fuck you, but you might accept the offer.
So instead, go fuck yourself silly with your judgment stick. You are not bothering me, you are not angering me. I am the one annoying you. You have a need for the last word. Makes you feel superior. The word fuck in and of itself does not show anger. In posts to you its only intent is to cause you consternation. Guess what, it works.
One problem:
You are working from a position of inferiority. You really ought to read your posts. They reek of self-hate, self-doubt and very low self-esteem.
Now you tell me how the deceased first wife (not an ex, that was sarcasm in the first post) turns Teresa into sloppy seconds? Really, an explanation is in order. You make arguments based on emotion and attempts to elicit rage from me. How is that working for you so far, you disgusting, skanky whore? How is that working for you? I am eating a sandwich and talking with Elvis as I type. I am sure you are ignoring your pretend “kids” in order to focus full time on your posts. You have to word them just right.
This post is disjointed intentionally. I am attempting to mimic your style. (snicker)
Here is something else I know. You are overweight. And not by just 30 pounds. You are considered to be unattractive and disagreeable. You are tolerated because your husband is a likeable fellow. Your kids are out of control little hell raisers, who the neighborhood moms would rather not have in their homes.
What else would you like to know. You are a direct threat to my peace, It is my job to know the level of that threat and to take steps to neutralize it.
Sammich gone, time to play with Elvis and mow the lawn. I love my riding mower. Always wanted one as a kid.
Have a nice day! :o)
spelling correction Inability
Your first “wife” died… fine… my sympathies.
You and “teresa” are ecstatic in your new love… mazoltov! live and be well.
You were a soldier… thanks.
Your kid is a soldier… ditto.
But pay very close attention here, sweetcheeks: you could be Patton reincarnate married to Mother Teresa reincarnate and it would make not a whit of difference.
You are judged solely on your vile, vicious and hateful mouth and attitude HERE.
Again, you choose to attack the wife. Again I tell you that it is your inadequacy that compels you to do so. I feel sorry you and your sorry little life. -Commentby My Left Foot— 9/29/06@ 1:24 am
Please, tell us more Mr Pot…
I am sure your husband has been able to maintain his marriage with you by supplementing his needs with various and sundry concubines. The distraction helps him cope. What I know is that you are a bitter, sad shell of a woman. How is that working for you so far, you disgusting, skanky whore? Here is something else I know. You are overweight. And not by just 30 pounds. You are considered to be unattractive and disagreeable. You are tolerated because your husband is a likeable fellow. Your kids are out of control little hell raisers, who the neighborhood moms would rather not have in their homes. Just plain shit. Like you. A pile of shit.-Commentby My Left Foot— 9/29/06@ 11:39 am
Projection, sweetcakes? I just love when your own words reflect so perfectly back on you… it’s my favorite part of our tete a tete…
The difference is I don’t use the thesaurus to flower up my posts.-Commentby My Left Foot— 9/29/06@ 11:39 am
Clearly, you don’t. However you are on record as admitting to being so completely devoid of imagination and originality that you use an insult generator. That’s pretty pathetic, sweetcheeks, even for you.
What else would you like to know. You are a direct threat to my peace, It is my job to know the level of that threat and to take steps to neutralize it. -Commentby My Left Foot— 9/29/06@ 11:39 am
So the coward has moved from implied threats to outright overt threats. Good job, carl, my printer works too. You’re just not quite as good at this when teresa is not standing over your shoulder and prompting you, are you?
You make arguments based on emotion and attempts to elicit rage from me. How is that working for you so far, you disgusting, skanky whore? How is that working for you? -Commentby My Left Foot— 9/29/06@ 11:39 am
I can always tell by the way you devolve from rational to rage that it’s working pretty darn well for me.
Thanks for asking.
Your masturbatory fantasy of besting me is laughable.
As for this ditty: You are judged solely on your vile, vicious and hateful mouth and attitude HERE.
The only one judging is you.
Neutralizing a threat is just that. It has no other meaning. I can neutralize a threat by simply proving over and over, as I have done here, that the statements and lies being told are just that.
Why do you think that swearing indicates anger? Why do you think that using an insult generator was anything more than fun for me? I did not hide it. I offered the info voluntarily.
Perhaps one evening while your husband is visiting his concubine you should reread some of my posts. Maybe if you read them real slow you might grasp some of the sarcasm, satire and humor. Then again, probably not.
I notice you love the work coward so I looked it up.
Coward, according to dictionary.com, means: 1. a person who lacks courage in facing danger, difficulty, opposition, pain, etc.; a timid or easily intimidated person.
Yep, that’s me alright! (snicker, guffaw, knee slap, snort) Writers note for proudofherfatuglylyingthreateningass: the preceeding is/was sarcasm). (snicker)
The only coward in these here parts is you, missy. You have the address, come on by (roflmao) we can have a beer and talk over the good times.
I suggest you pack it in, honey. I am expert in this kind of battle. Anger makes you lose focus. Once you are angry, you have lost.
Now, back to your non-existant “children” (snicker). How are the little darlings? Have you housebroke them yet? :(
OK, back to the yard. I will check back later when I need a laugh.
Oh yeah, get some new batteries for your vibrator, you seem to be very uptight.
You’re right.. I am the one judging you.. and trust me sweetcheeks, I judge you as the vile, vicious foul-mouthed punk that you are.
I find it absolutely fascinating carl, as would a Freudian, that you feel the compulsion to constantly reveal so much of yourself. One would have to wonder what it is you’re trying to justify and who it is you’re trying to convince.
I love my riding mower. Always wanted one as a kid. -Commentby My Left Foot— 9/29/06@ 11:39 am
Congratulations Carl. ‘Tis nice you were able to reach what little you aspired to…
But hey, the back hasn’t been mowed yet this week, so bring that sucker over.. do you have an aerater too… I’ll throw a buck in so you too can contribute to the big (and boringly pedestrian) vacation.
Hmmmmm.
How does humor and lightheartedness just pass you by? Must be sad to be so humorless. I am just a big boy who likes his toys.
As for accomplishment, my record speaks for itself. I don’t need or want your approval. Truth be told, if you or someone like you, found me likeable, I would have to reexamine myself as a human being.
I would list the accomplishments but that is for others to decide, not for me to list and boast. I am proud of my life. I am proud of my past, I am hopeful for the future.
You have to judge your worth by the car you drive and the “business” your “family” owns. You have mentioned several times the relative value of your possessions.
I judge my life not on what I have aquired, but what I have accomplished with my life. Service to my country, raising children into fine adults, my education, the volunteering I do locally.
Your protestations to the contrary, my sharing is not Freudian, it is simply friendly. On the otherhand your compulsion to belittle everything I say is indicative of deep Freudian troubles, perhaps you too were in love with and attracted to your mother? (snicker)
And of course, Go fuck yourself. Your husband won’t do it, might as well take care of your needs yourself. The Catholic Church lies to you, you won’t go to hell for touching yourself. (snicker)
You will throw in a buck? Boringly pedestrian vacation? WTF are you talking about? Jealous that I can find contentment in my own yard and home? That I don’t have to run off to the local bingo hall or mall to distract myself from an unsatisfying life, in the manner that you surely do?
I have indeed mentioned my car and indeed I have mentioned the family business, but never, not once, the value of any possesions… I leave that to the more crass amongst you.
Nice try, Mr-I-have a 3700 sq ft’ house and acreage…
Regarding the pedestrian vacation.. it means ordinary, uninspired.
An inspired romatic getaway would be to the Adriatic Coast of Italy, a leisurely jaunt down the Romantic Road of Germany, The Orient Express from London to Venice, a cliff-side cottage in Scotland, the beaches of Fiji, Malaga Spain and a ferry trip to Gibralter or a fjord tour of Norway.
Hawaii is so yesterday, so “I’m a tourist”, so uninspiring.
And Carl, I’d be glad to compare my passport to yours… we won’t even exclude your “military” trips.
Your turn, sweetcheeks.
I suggest if you ever do get around to the Romantische Strasse that you go on over to Hausach. There is a charming little inn there, Gasthaus zur Blume, Hausach run by an even more charming couple. Heidi runs the inn side of things and her husband Peter, who comes from Spain (perhaps a Basque, but I don’t really remember) is the chef. On one trip we circled back and stayed there twice.
And if you make it to the south of Spain (we stayed at the Don Carlos Beach and Golf Resort in Marbella) do get over to Gibralter and consider the day long ferry (and an ugly ferry it is) to Morocco. Morocco is not top 10 on my list, but it was worht experiencing… try not to get suckered into buying a rug… the more you hesitate the farther the price will drop.
screwed up the tags… get over it.
I suggest if you ever do get around to the Romantische Strasse that you go on over to Hausach. There is a charming little inn there, Gasthaus zur Blume, run by an even more charming couple. Heidi runs the inn side of things and her husband Peter, who comes from Spain (perhaps a Basque, but I don’t really remember) is the chef. On one trip we circled back and stayed there twice.
And if you make it to the south of Spain (we stayed at the Don Carlos Beach and Golf Resort in Marbella) do get over to Gibralter and take the tour to see the Barbary Apes. Also consider the day long ferry (and an ugly, filthy ferry it was) to Morocco. Morocco is not top 10 on my list, but it was worth experiencing… try not to get suckered into buying a rug… the more you hesitate the farther the price will drop.
The now bankrupt Dana Corp had a hydraulic cylinder factory in Hausach… but they sold out to Hyco manufacturing.
I have relatives in Rimini and Fano, business acquaintances in Bari and good friends (Luigi,Isabella) in Lake Como… but no, the ultimate ugly American doesn’t get that particular information.
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I see your imagination has gone wild. Luigi and Isabella, how quaint. (snicker).
I am sure everyone here is impressed. (possibly the biggest snicker this blog has ever heard)
Luigi and Isabella Pellegrino… he owns a company in the material handling industry and they own a castle in Lake Como… they live there part of the year and the rest of the year it’s open for tours.
Isabella works very hard on raising funds for a very old monastary.
They are well known in the town.
Go ask.
Oh I forgot.. you’re doing the tourist thing to Hawaii… how typically Seattle cliche’.
The last time we went to Hawaii was 2 years before child #3 was born. We spent 2 weeks there over the Easter holiday. It was a challenge for the Easter Bunny, but it all worked out. We went to Easter Mass and Sunday Mass at St. Augustine by the Sea, it’s lovely. I came down with the flu and spent a long night at the Waikiki Health Center… it was not lovely.
*material handling
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Um, how do I break this to you? We, um, own the condo and three others that are rented out, pretty much year round. We play golf there.
As for the rest of your world travels, you have not yet made up anything impressive. My passport includes all five continents, all the oceans, Caspian Sea (why is the Caspian Sea a misnomer? No fair using Google.)
I don’t know why Caspian Sea is a misnomer… and I hate Google… http://www.ixquick.com/
I haven’t made up anything about my travels sweetcheeks, whether you consider it impressive or not… and the government didn’t pay for mine… although I will admit some of it was business travel… and some of it was free because of business travel (gotta love those airmiles – the trick to air miles is not to airline hop… pick the one with the best features and stick with it…NW Platinum Elite… fly 75,000 miles a year and you too can automatically upgrade to 1st class with-in 24 hours of your flight…
The Caspia Sea is a lake, not a Sea. Largest lake on earth I believe.
As for the government paying for my travels, what I gave the government and the people of this country is, in my mind, worth far more than a few airplane rides to far off and exotic places.
I have jetskied, surfed, been snow skiing, mountain climbing and any other manner of activity, living my life. I experience, I don’t just travel. I do. From the street market in Stockholm to the view from Sugar Loaf Mountain in Brazil to walking on the Great Wall, I have done, not seen. Some of my travels were a “perk” some were my own version of a vacation. When my kids were 12 and 13 we spent a summer in Europe traveling by car, train and boat. They have seen Euro Disneyland. Tokyo Disneyland, the Colliseum in Rome, the American cemetary at Normandy, toured the Dachau Memorial site, played in the waters of Algarve beach in Portugal. They have been scuba diving in Antalya and have escaped into the real life fantasy of Germany’s Toy Road in Franconia.
Please, don’t brag about your frilly “business” travels and tea with high brow friends. This is not experiencing life, this is pretending that you are living.
As loudly as you are attempting to disparage my life, my kids, my wife….it falls on deaf ears. While you were sleeping on 1000 thread count sheets, we were camping in Holland, staying in an Olde Inn in England and trying what passes for coffee in Turkey.
While I find your posts entertaining, I also find them wholly unbelieveable. If you lived the way you claim, you would have less time to post here. Your life is a fantasy. I congratulate you on your ability to string together a sentence.
Teresa and I are off to the San Juans for three days. Just some down time for reading and romance at a bed and breakfast near Friday Harbor. I know, hoooooooooow pedestrian. For us, it is a world away from home, a place to relax, rejoice, recreate.
I will try to check in but don’t count on it.
Toodles!
Get over yourself carl… we’ve enjoyed camping throughout France (I particularly remember Rheims: we didn’t read French and ordered the house special of ox tongue… in a gay bar.. with 2 great bulldogs plopped at our feet begging for our scraps… they got plenty from us) Switzerland and Germany as well as the 1000 count bedsheets from our free weeks in the Netherlands.
I’m not entirely sure why a sane person would go to France or Japan to visit Disney… but whatever floats your pedestrian boat…
Let me see, my kids were on a trip through Europe. Having grown up in So Cal as I did they are very familiar with where each and every Disneyland is. They have been to all but Hong Kong Disney. I expect they will see it on their own.
You know, the snooty attitude about vacations speaks volumes, as you are so fond of saying, about you. Pretentious, snobby, vainglorious, conceited, narcissistic and windbag all come to mind. Again, your imagination is certainly fertile, but your words do not ring true, rather they clank as if a child was banging a pot with a wooden spoon.
I would rather do. I would rather feel the exhilaration of a jet ski, the cold, biting wind as the ski edge throws a wave of snow on a hard turn.
It has always been my experience that those with money, with means, do not mention that fact. They conduct themselves in a humble manner. I mentioned the value of my home only when you had false and misleading information and location. There was a need created when I became concerned that you might confront an innocent.
Have a good evening. I won’t be back again until Monday sometime. I am being told that it is time to go out on the town, play some pool and laugh with our friends.
I won’t be back again until Monday sometime. Commentby My Left Foot— 9/30/06@ 8:29 pm
So, I guess that means you bugged out on your “appointment” with americaforst… surprise, surprise.
Snooty attitude? LMAO… I think Disney is for chumps unless you are 7 years old.
Yes, my kids have done Disney (Florida, mostly because that’s were Grandma was), but really, how many times can you ride teacups, Carl?
Thanks, but we chose to visit the fjords than ride the Maelstrom. We chose to be in Faneuil Hall than the Hall of Presidents. We chose to look over the Champs Elysees from the Eiffel than look at pictures of the Eiffel. We chose Neuschwanstein rather than Snow White. We chose to explore Nazi bunkers and Eagles Nest over the shooting arcade. We chose an evening opera dress rehearsal at Heidelburg Castle rather than the Electric Light Parade.
Apparently, once again, you failed to comprehend everything you read. From Quincy (where Faneuil is located, to the bunkers of Germany and Normandy, I have been there and done that. I choose to share my life with my kids. Sorry you don’t see the value in a childs smile. Sad for you.
I left for the San Juans on Saturday morning. I was at Danny’s, I was not the no show. We stayed until Saturday morning so that I could keep my word. Amerikafirst was the no show. I sat by the pool tables, inquired at the dart boards and no one copped to be him.
Maybe you can explain. I am at a loss.
I have no need to back out. I can handle myself. Perhaps he saw me walk in alone. Perhaps he was afraid that I had a friend in the room (I did) only a fool walks into a situation ill prepared. While I was put off by his no show, I was not surprised.
So, now that we have that clear I must close up the lap top and rejoin my wife.
Have a good evening. You have some time to now find more places via the internet that you have seen. (snicker)
I choose to share my life with my kids.
Except for tha whole bit about the village raising them, eh carl?
Goofy in Paris is not sharing their lives.
Homework is sharing their lives. Getting ready for homecoming (as we did this week) is sharing their lives. Runny noses, broken hearts and skinned knees is sharing their lives. Doing dinner dishes together is sharing their lives. Waiting for SAT results, GMAT results, bar exam results is sharing their lives. Laughing, crying, arguing, celebrating and wrestling is sharing their lives. Playing gin rummy and Uno on long plane rides is sharing their lives.
Have a good evening. You have some time to now find more places via the internet that you have seen. (snicker)
Screw you carl, we have the passports to back up our travels.
You brag broad generalizations about golf and skiing and swimming. I have DETAILS. You throw out some obscure factoid about the Caspian Sea and call it impressive. I call it trivia I didn’t know and wholly unimpressive as proof of anything except a head full of useless knowledge… yours.
Our kids smiles come from parents that love them and each other. Our kids smiles come from a happy home. Our kids smiles come from memories of private travels with each parent that they treasure like a precious gem. Our kids smiles come from family trips: planning and chaos and changes and fun and inconvenience of plans gone awry.
Your kids rode the Matterhorn. Mine took the train from Brig to Zermatt.
Your kids watched James Bond. Mine took the train from Grindelwald to Murren.
They’ve stayed with friends in Achim (he makes dentures) and beached the North Sea at Bremerhaven and Scheveningen.
They’ve been lost around Interlaken and been through the Sachseln tunnel 3x trying to get unlost.
They’ve seen the clock at Geneva and eaten the best pomme frits of our lives at a little tucked away restaurant outside the train station.
They sang (badly and loudly) ‘I Wonder What the King is Doing Tonite’ at the base of a castle in Liechtenstein and seen a pal nearly arrested in Bern.
They’ve tried to find family records in Salzburg, been to Mass at the Koln Cathedral, peaked into the casino at Baden-Baden. They’ve stayed in zimmers and hotels, toured museums, the red light district and the diamond district.
They love brochens and hate the lack of ice. They hate spaetzle and tasted the bock beer sold only to the citizens of Bremen… and saw their parents and friends sleep off the headaches after drinking it. They brought 150ML cans of Coke (that’s a 5 ounce can) to their pals here at home.
Our oldest toured Australia and New Zealand for 4 weeks as an 8th grader… stayed in hotels and with families. ..slept with a baby kangaroo and brought home the horrible, disgusting Vegemite.
They love geography because they’ve experienced it. Ditto history.
Proudofherfatlyingass:
You can stop now. You refuse to understand that what I share with my kids is all that.
What you fail to recognize is that I was off putting my life in harms way to protect you. During this time I missed some of the recitals, some of the dances. But for the milestones I was there. My sacrafice is real. My desire to protect this country is real. My belief in the values our forefathers gave to us is real. You are able to have these these dreams, that you keep mistaking for real, because men like me put country first. I did not do it for the money. I did it for love of country. I have a first class education, two degrees and 20+ years of service to my country. I have traveled the world, seen combat more than I care to remember and, with the help of family who made sacrafices, I raised two children to adulthood. One a college grad and contemplating law school, the other a soldier who will attend college when his service to this country is complete. There is nothing you have done, in this lifetime or anything you can do in the next lifetime, that will come close to what this family has endured and lived and given.
You do not want to compare passports with me. You do not want to compare passports with my kids. I was specific about some of our travels. I could name streets and small towns too, you would not know if I made it up or not, just as I assume that you are making it all up.
The difference is, I can prove all of this. One stroll around the office, den and family room in this house and you would know. I am not sure what your trailer is decorated, but I am sure it does not contain the framed, written thanks from two Presidents and three different Secretary’s of Defense. I am sure you don’t have shawl, handmade by a woman in Afghanistan in appreciation of being freed from her Burka. I am equally sure that your children are not serving in the military, nor have you or your “husband”. (snicker) I am sure the only history your family has is taking advantage of the “workers” in your “family” business in order to “enrich” yourselves on the fruits of their hard work for substandard pay and working conditions. (big, big snicker)
When you can stand next to me, or sit across from me, and discuss all this in person, with proof in your hand (photos, ticket receipts, passports) is when I will believe anything you have to say. Otherwise, there is no point in continuing this conversation. The invitation is open. We will be happy to meet you in a public place, on this side of the water. You can then decide if we are normal enough for you to visit the house. Your choice. You decide. Put up or shut up.
As for amerikafirst, you will note that he is not crowing about my failure to show. I was there, he was not. It is not my style to belittle him or call him on it. He made a choice. I respect that.
Have a good evening.
You can stop now. You refuse to understand that what I share with my kids is all that.
What you fail to recognize is that I was off putting my life in harms way to protect you. During this time I missed some of the recitals, some of the dances. But for the milestones I was there. My sacrafice is real. My desire to protect this country is real. My belief in the values our forefathers gave to us is real. You are able to have these these dreams, that you keep mistaking for real, because men like me put country first. I did not do it for the money. I did it for love of country. I have a first class education, two degrees and 20+ years of service to my country. I have traveled the world, seen combat more than I care to remember and, with the help of family who made sacrafices, I raised two children to adulthood. One a college grad and contemplating law school, the other a soldier who will attend college when his service to this country is complete. There is nothing you have done, in this lifetime or anything you can do in the next lifetime, that will come close to what this family has endured and lived and given.
You do not want to compare passports with me. You do not want to compare passports with my kids. I was specific about some of our travels. I could name streets and small towns too, you would not know if I made it up or not, just as I assume that you are making it all up.
The difference is, I can prove all of this. One stroll around the office, den and family room in this house and you would know. I am not sure what your trailer is decorated, but I am sure it does not contain the framed, written thanks from two Presidents and three different Secretary’s of Defense. I am sure you don’t have shawl, handmade by a woman in Afghanistan in appreciation of being freed from her Burka. I am equally sure that your children are not serving in the military, nor have you or your “husband”. (snicker) I am sure the only history your family has is taking advantage of the “workers” in your “family” business in order to “enrich” yourselves on the fruits of their hard work for substandard pay and working conditions. (big, big snicker)
When you can stand next to me, or sit across from me, and discuss all this in person, with proof in your hand (photos, ticket receipts, passports) is when I will believe anything you have to say. Otherwise, there is no point in continuing this conversation. The invitation is open. We will be happy to meet you in a public place, on this side of the water. You can then decide if we are normal enough for you to visit the house. Your choice. You decide. Put up or shut up.
As for amerikafirst, you will note that he is not crowing about my failure to show. I was there, he was not. It is not my style to belittle him or call him on it. He made a choice. I respect that.
Have a good evening. -Commentby My Left Foot— 10/2/06@ 10:44 pm
I could stop now. ‘carl’, but I won’t. You see, I believe that when you continue to use insult and profanity to prove your point, you don’t.
You seem to think if you construct pretty little pictures with emotional words that somehow your ‘service’ and/or your life is validated. It’s not. I don’t believe word one of your supposed travels nor your supposed service to the military… service to ‘teresa’ with a great big dose of blue pill perhaps.. but little else. And isn’t it interesting how suddenly you have 2 degrees and a kid contemplating law school. Right.
What’s next ‘carl’?
I don’t have to fake memories or look them up on the net, and I sure don’t have to get into a passport pissing contest with a small-minded peon like you. Nor do I have to fake the names of friends around the world and our experiences with them.
You like to insult, mock and snicker… well, sweetcheeks, go for it. Heaven knows I won’t stand in the way of whatever puffs up your faltering manhood.
You want to mock my 27 year marriage, go for it big man.
You want to mock our family business, go for it big man.
You want to mock my children, my travels, my religion, home my contributions to society, go for it big man. But know that when you do, it belittle you far more than it ever could me.
And no, I would never consider meeting with the likes of you. I don’t associate with vile, fouth mouthed insulters or their ‘wives’. I don’t associate with liars and grandstanders. I don’t associate with America haters. And I sure as hell don’t associate with any vile, fouthmouthed person that ASSumes everything he was told was a lie.
You are a liar carl. I despise liars…. almost as much as I now (since finding this blog) despise liberals. I don’t believe you honor our forefathers and you can fall back on your “service” to demand honor only so long… the way you behave NOW trumps what ever little you may have done then.
Noni