Yet another notch in the belt of the regional progressive blogosphere. Darryl at Hominid Views, whose original post led to national ridicule being heaped on Adele Fergusen’s ridiculous, pro-slavery column, reports that the Kitsap Peninsula Business Journal has decided to discontinue her column. Way to go Darryl.
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Hey, you moonbats wanna have some fun? Read SOS
2006 initiatives web page. I think my favorites are the ones for universal health care except for rich guys like me and the dangerous initiatives one. Would you guys sign up for either of these kooky and dangerous ideas?
Just what the US needs, WingNuts running our prisons:
SAN ANGELO, Texas — Tom Green County commissioners gave extra preparation time Saturday to a group proposing a faith-based prison in San Angelo.
The new management team of Dallas-based Corrections Concepts asked for at least two months to prepare more detailed financial information on the project. The commissioners did not set a timetable.
Corrections Concepts was the only group to step forward when the county requested proposals for the 623-inmate prison. A management contract has not been voted on. The company’s new chief executive Forrest Watson said the group needs time to reorganize.
but then again, there are probably more guilty and corrupt people in DC than there are in any single prison.
Cougar, it makes perfect sense. Texas is the major home of right wingnuts, and the prison will be in Texas! Maybe they are thinking about filling it out with all of Abramoff’s pals!!!!!
2 — Yes, go for it.
One of the few places to let the chuches do their thing to the max. Will cut the crime rate to the bone. Along with no TV and can’t smoke.
In all fairness to the mindset that allows one ot be a criminal, some ethics eductation and bonding concepts of collective community can’t be bad.
And, Drivel, you are right. they will have poli sci 101 — free teachers, a lot of them, soon.
REVOKE THEIR VOTING PRIVILEGES!
By law, a corporation is a “person.” This means it pays income taxes,* (*only in theory, see http://moneycentral.msn.com/co.....P80242.asp), can sue and be sued** (** until Republican “tort reform” passes), etc.
But when a corporation breaks the law, you can’t throw the “corporation” in jail — all you can do is fine it — while the human beings who actually broke the law avoid liability by hiding behind the legal shield of corporate identity.
Under Bush and the GOP Congress, corporations can break the law to their heart’s content, because NOBODY WILL DO ANYTHING.
From the Associated Press:
“Corporations Stiffing Government on Fines
“By MARTHA MENDOZA and CHRISTOPHER SULLIVAN
“(March 19) – When a gasoline spill and fiery explosion killed three young people in Washington state, officials announced a record penalty against a gas pipeline company: $3 million to send the message that such tragedies ‘must never happen again.’
“When nuclear labs around the country were found exposing workers to radiation and breaking other safety rules, assessments totaling $2.5 million were quickly ordered.
“When coal firms’ violations were blamed for deaths, injuries and risks to miners from Alabama to West Virginia, they were slapped with more than $1.3 million in penalties.
“What happened next with these no-nonsense enforcement efforts? Not much. The pipeline tab was eventually reduced by 92 percent, the labs’ assessments were waived as soon as they were issued, and the mine penalties largely went unpaid.
“The amount of unpaid federal fines has risen sharply … corporations regularly avoid large, highly publicized penalties for wrongdoing ….
“In a study, Government Accountability Office investigators found that just 7 percent of restitution in (white collar crime) cases is paid.
“‘Fines and orders to pay restitution are an important part of how we punish convicted criminals. When so little effort is made to collect that money, we allow convicted criminals to avoid punishment for their crimes, weaken our criminal justice system and ultimately deny justice to the victims of crimes,’ said Sen. Byron Dorgan, D-N.D., who has pressed for closer scrutiny for years.
…
“In many high-profile cases, fines are touted by authorities as proof that they are cracking down. Yet frequently those orders are quietly negotiated to just a fraction of their original amounts – as if drivers, faced with fines for speeding, offered the traffic court judge pennies on the dollar….”
“Documents provided to the AP by the Labor Department’s Employment Benefits Security Administration, whose job is to protect pension and welfare benefits, showed that $2,000 was the maximum amount paid on nearly a dozen penalties ranging from $86,500 to $180,000 …
“The Occupational Safety and Health Administration’s written policy explains to inspectors that they can reduce penalties by as much as 95 percent ….
“Internal documents from U.S. Customs show that … a $60,911,316 ‘commercial fraud’ assessment for one company … ended with a $15,000 collection by Customs.
…
“The Energy Department … issued some $2.5 million in fines against Los Alamos, Livermore and Argonne national laboratories since 2000 … waived in the same sentence …. Even so, the Energy Department includes the fines in its annual reports to Congress and often announces them in press releases.
…
“Financial penalties are regularly touted by agencies and prosecutors as a strict consequence of lawbreaking. …
“Nearly seven years ago, a pipeline ruptured, spilling 230,000 gallons of gasoline into a creek near Bellingham, Wash. The fuel exploded into a fireball … killed two 10-year-old boys playing in the woods and a young man, 18, who had gone to the stream to fish …. On June 2, 2000, the Transportation Department issued a forceful press release, announcing a $3.05 million administrative penalty against the pipeline owner, Olympic Pipe Line Co. … last year, the penalty was quietly reduced to $250,000.
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“The recent West Virginia coal mine deaths focused new criticism on enforcement tradeoffs made by mine safety inspectors. During hearings in January, Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., voiced outrage at how coal operators can whittle down fines. He cited assessments by the Mine Safety and Health Administration against a company in an Alabama mine where 13 people were killed in 2001.
‘Incredibly, … an Administrative Law Judge reduced these fines from $435,000 to a mere $3,000 ….’
“On Feb. 20, 2002, near Rupert, W.Va., a section of mine roof up to 10 feet thick collapsed, killing one miner and seriously injuring another. It took more than four hours to dig them out. The MSHA investigators’ report concluded: ‘Root cause – Mine management condoned unsafe work practices and … demonstrated a reckless disregard of the dangers ….’ … The companies … were hit with $165,000 in administrative penalties …. But MSHA has no record of any payment four years later. …”
For complete article, see http://articles.news.aol.com/b.....1009990001
Well, I think if corporations don’t pay their fines, they shouldn’t be allowed to vote. Crack down on felony voting!
Click here for photo of alleged felon voter: http://www.rotten.com/library/.....en_lay.jpg
ROGER RABBIT POLL
The alleged felon voter in the photo linked by post #7 above is:
[ ] 1. The guy on the left
[ ] 2. The guy on the right
[ ] 3. Both of ’em
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Leave it to MTR to call “universal health care” a “kooky and dangerous idea.”
He’s got a point, though … if everybody had health coverage, how would pharmaceutical companies get poor people to volunteer for human medical experiments?
Hey Roger: Why do you miss usually miss the following on the your overly lengthly quotes?
“Copyright 2006 The Associated Press. The information contained in the AP news report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or otherwise distributed without the prior written authority of The Associated Press.”
A simple link will suffice.
5 minutes, 6 posts. How about either
A. Starting your own blog
or
B. Placing all your thoughts in one or two posts?
You really must like to see your screen name.
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Besides, the Bush family probably owns stock in the company.
Roger – Why do you hate people? Don’t you agree that destroying the best health care system in the world would be evil?
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Because quoting and attributing it is all I’m required to do under the fair use doctrine, dumbass. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use
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“How about either A. Starting your own blog or B. Placing all your thoughts in one or two posts?” Commentby Whos the Lawyer here?— 3/19/06@ 3:23 pm
I have a better idea … how about if you go fuck yourself? If you don’t like my posts, write your complaint here [ ] and send it here __.
Way to go Darryl!!!!
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“Roger – Why do you hate people?”
Because the inconsiderate, self-centered, uncaring bastards run over my children in their SUVs.
“Don’t you agree that destroying the best health care system in the world would be evil?”
Does this mean you’re not going to invade Cuba?
Of course, I know what MTR really meant — he claims the U.S. has the world’s best health care system. What a laugh! He’s confusing “most expensive” with “best.” By any measure, U.S. health care is mediocre — that is, if you can afford it. 43 million Americans have NO health care. Those that do, get health care roughly equal in quality with many Third World nations.
One of the unique features of our capitalist-model, for-profit, employer-based, private-insurance system of paying for health care is that YOU DON’T GET WHAT YOU PAID FOR.
For example, on Friday I found out that even though I hand over a third of my pension check to an ex-employer every month to pay for my COBRA health benefits, my health coverage was cancelled on January 1 because the ex-employer took my money and didn’t buy the health insurance with it! So now, if I get sick (like I did last year), I’m fucked.
I like Castro’s system better. He confiscates the employer’s property, shoots the employer, and the workers get quality health care for free. We need something like that in America.
They may be reasons for not liking Castro, but health care isn’t one of them.
There may be reasons for liking capitalism, but health care isn’t one of them.
Hey Rabbit: Daniel Patrick Moynihan called it that too. Do you disagree with the late smart Senator?
“Although he was then chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, Moynihan refused to be bullied into uncompromising support of Bill Clinton’s health care plan. He sought to inject contrary views into the debate and chided Clinton that while we did not truly have a health care crisis, the country was facing a welfare crisis.”
Wake up Rabbit Pellet Dingleberry!
Whos @12
In case I forgot to mention it, go fuck yourself.
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I don’t know if Moynihan actually said America doesn’t have a health care crisis, although I sure as hell wouldn’t take your word for it that he said it, given the penchant of wingnuts for making shit up.
Regardless of whether he said it or not, I have an idea — why don’t you conduct your own poll?
1. Paint a sign that says, “Honk if you look our health care system.”
2. Stand in the middle of the street.
3. If you hear a car honk, get out of the street so you don’t get run over.
4. If the car doesn’t honk, you don’t need to do anything. Just stand there.
correction
1. Paint a sign that says, “Honk if you like our health care system.”
2. Stand in the middle of the street.
3. If you hear a car honk, get out of the street so you don’t get run over.
4. If the car doesn’t honk, you don’t need to do anything. Just stand there.
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“bonding concepts of collective community can’t be bad”
Bob — we already have this in our prisons. It’s called “gangs”
Best of moonbats including a late breaking contribution from RR.
…it’s just that the reality is vaginas make us men .
Comment by GBS— 12/29/05 @ 5:44 pm
…vaginas do indeed make us men.
Comment by Donnageddon— 12/29/05 @ 5:55 pm
…how big a capacitator do we need to shoot MTR into orbit with a flashlight battery?
Commentby Roger Rabbit— 3/12/06@ 3:42 pm
Government exists to make private wealth possible.
Commentby Belltowner— 3/12/06@ 4:15 pm
You violate Murka with your comments. You are marked for death.
Goodbye
Commentby Belltowner— 3/16/06@ 8:39 pm
I like Castro’s system better. He confiscates the employer’s property, shoots the employer, and the workers get quality health care for free. We need something like that in America.
Commentby Roger Rabbit— 3/19/06@ 3:42 pm
Whos the Lawyer here? @ 12
“5 minutes, 6 posts. How about either A. Starting your own blog or B. Placing all your thoughts in one or two posts?”
Who the fuck make you the thread police? IT A OPEN THREAD, YOU FUCKING DOLT!!!
(Ohhh…all cap! It almost make me look as crazy as YOyo.)
Mark The Redneck,
What the fuck are you doing back here? You haven’t paid off on your $100 bet with Goldy yet, have you?
Fucking thief!
HEY DJ BLOW ME WHY DONT YOU AND THE RABBIT RUN UP TO CANADA FOR THE FREE HEALTH CARE.WHY DO YOU THINK IF THECANADIANS HAVE A SERIOUS HEALTH PROBLEM THE COME TO THE SATATES TO GET IT DONE.THAT ARE THE RICH ONES ALL OTHERS GO ON A WAITING LIST.YOU TWO ARE FUCKIN IDIOTS.OH AND TAKE THE NAVY DROP OUT GBS WITH YOU.
You know this fool who runs the Kitsap Business Journal sent the same email to lots of people claiming he was contractually obligated to run the racist column. So if that’s true, then how did he justify pulling her column off the web? Wasn’t he “contractually obligated” to run that as well? What a lying piece of shit. I will be contacting ALL of his advertisers to let them know I don’t do business with companies that support racists.
Kevin Carns @12
Dear Kevin,
I have a business proposition for you.
I’ll stop posting on HorsesAss if your employer, BIAW, pays me a consulting fee of $7,500 a month.
This seems perfectly fair, because they pay you $90,000 a year to post on HA, so why shouldn’t they pay me $90,000 a year to not post on HA?
Tell them to mail their checks to Goldy, who will make sure I receive the money. Payments are due on the 1st. If a payment is not received on time, I will resume posting again until payment is received.
Sincerely,
Roger Rabbit
President, Mercenary Bunnies, Inc.
“Have rabbit, will travel”
HEY DJ BLOW ME WHY DONT YOU
OH DON’T GET TOO CARRIED AWAY YO/DUMB ASS WASHOUT. WITH ALL THE KEYBOARDS AND CAMEL UNFILTEREDS YOU’RE GOING THROUGH THE LOCAL CHECK CASHING JOINT MIGHT CUT YOU OFF.. A FELLA HAS TO CONSERVE HIS MILITARY PENSION…
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Since I haven’t heard from Kevin Carns or BIAW about my consulting proposal yet, I’ll keep posting on HorsesAss for now.
Hey Kevin — eat me! Wanna lick my cottontail? For a good time, call 1-800-RRABBIT.
In case any of you trollfucks don’t know what a CHEAP LABOR CONSERVATIVE is,
“When you cut right through it, right-wing ideology is just ‘dime-store economics’ – intended to dress their ideology up and make it look respectable. You don’t really need to know much about economics to understand it. They certainly don’t. It all gets down to two simple words.
“‘Cheap labor’. That’s their whole philosophy in a nutshell … a short and pithy ‘catch phrase’ that describes them perfectly. You’ve heard of ‘big-government liberals’. Well they’re ‘cheap-labor conservatives’.
“Cheap-labor conservative’ is a moniker they will never shake, and never live down. Because it’s exactly what they are. You see, cheap-labor conservatives are defenders of corporate America – whose fortunes depend on labor. The larger the labor supply, the cheaper it is. The more desperately you need a job, the cheaper you’ll work, and the more power those ‘corporate lords’ have over you. If you are a wealthy elite – or a ‘wannabe’ like most dittoheads – your wealth, power and privilege is enhanced by a labor pool, forced to work cheap.”
http://www.conceptualguerilla......php?id=103
I have no idea whether this material is copyrighted or in the public doman, but what the hell: Copyright Conceptual Guerilla.com.
By the way, Conceptual Guerilla is a first-rate blog, and worthy of your bookmarking it. For example, there’s a photo of Bush flipping off a photographer here http://www.conceptualguerilla.com/index.php. Not only that, but CG picked up the following story from Counterpunch:
“It turns out that an Associated Press cameraman got footage of a war crime and sent it to the AP Bureau. So what did the AP, which is a cooperative owned by thousands of U.S. newspapers and broadcast stations, do with the footage? They erased it. It’s not just a matter of censorship. This is a matter of members of the Associated Press conspiring to cover up a war crime. They erased solid evidence of a murder. It’s time we sent some of these corporate media cocksuckers to jail and this is our chance to do it. First, however, we need to raise a big stink about this.”
For complete story, see http://www.conceptualguerilla......php?id=249
I don’t know if it’s copyrighted, but what the hell, let’s copyright it: Copyright by Conceptual Guerilla, or Counterpunch, or Aunt Sally, or whoever. And while we’re at it, let’s copyright the photo of Bush flipping the bird, too: Copyright by Anonymous.
Oh, and before I forget, Who’s the Lawyer Here, fuck you!
Rabbit_Pellet@23: Don’t take my word for it just blog the Internet for (DPM) Moynihan’s words! Another instance of the librul truth appearing and the librul ASSHeads discounting it because it doesn’t rock your world. Moynihan also said this Pellet breath: “But Moynihan was seldom more on target than with his appraisals of his fellow liberals. The left, he stated, had developed “the ability to immediately dissolve every statement of fact into a question of motive.” He pointed out, “Liberalism faltered when it turned out it could not cope with truth.” His rebuke to messianic Great Society liberals – we thought we could do anything. . . The central psychological proposition of liberalism is that for every problem there is a solution” = Hey libruls, you can’t stand the truth – DPM. You all are stuck on stupid!
Better yet, fuck the armadillo you rode in on. He’s horny. For photo of armadillo, click here http://www.msu.edu/~nixonjos/a.....-unger.jpg
“Liberalism faltered when it turned out it could not cope with truth.” – DPM This will be my opening line from now on! When a librul tells it like it is the dagger cuts right through the sinew, muscle and bone and lands directly into the heart!!!
Roger Rabbit Pellet: Sorry, it’s your armadillo and it smells of rabbit fur burns! Damn! You must of been horny!
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I did a search for that Moynihan quote and found it on lots of right-wing blogs — a sure sign some winger made it up. But in any case, so what? How’s your wingnut pipedream working in New Orleans or Iraq?
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Abramoff at least had enough sense to steal while he still could. It’s too late for the rest of the wingnuts. Their world is imploding.
NEWSWEEK POLL
Do you approve or disapprove of President Bush’s handling of the Iraq war?
Approve – 29%
Disapprove – 65%
I’m watching the TV news, and I see Dick Cheney is blaming the media for Bush’s lousy approval ratings. Cheney thinks there’s no problem in Iraq that can’t be solved by reporting the war in a more “upbeat” manner.
Yes, rabbit pellet: PBS is a right-wing web site:
http://www.pbs.org/thinktank/transcript1205.html
I’m still watching TV news, and now they’re reporting a new atrocity scandal from Iraq. Three months ago, the USMC issued a press release saying 1 Marine and 15 Iraqi civilians (including 3 children) were killed by a roadside bomb. Two months later, after Time Magazine reported the civilians were not killed by the IED explosion, the USMC issued a revised statement that the civilians were killed “in a crossfire.” Unknown to them, a student journalist videotaped the whole incident. It now seems the Marines gunned down the unarmed civilians (including children). The tape shows a grief-striken Iraqi man asking over the body of his dead child, “Does this look like a terrorist to you?”
Yes, rabbit pellet: Odyssey is a right-wing web site:
http://homepage.eircom.net/~od.....itics.html
Hey, shit happens in war. “Fog of war,” you know. Accidents happen, plus overstressed soldiers who’ve lost buddies blow away civilians. Happens in every war. I understand. Just don’t fucking lie about it, that’s all I ask.
Rabbit Pellet: Want to read the problems with librulism?
Read from the right-wing nut newspaper (NOT!) NYTimes: http://www.nytimes.com/books/f.....ref=slogin
“The brute fact,” summarizes Stanley Aronowitz, is that “there is little to distinguish the U.S. left from yesterday’s everyday social welfare liberalism…. Most appalling, we live in a time when the left has run out of ideas.” = Correct words!
So, I’m watching the TV news, and Bush comes on and talks about “victory” in Iraq. What the fuck is “victory” in Iraq? Eliminating Iraq’s WMDs? It didn’t have any; done. Remove Saddam from power? Done. Hold elections and install an elected government? Done. What’s left to do? Why are we still there?
“Liberalism faltered when it turned out it could not cope with truth.” – DPM
Rabbit Pellet: Do you still think this is only from right wing sites? Care to retract that stupid statement?
I’m still watching TV news. Now they’re interviewing a former soldier who had both of her legs blown off in Iraq who is running for Congress in Illinois — as a Democrat. Now they’re saying 8 of the 9 Iraq War veterans running for Congress this year are running as Democratsm, and “most of them are anti-war.” Of course, I knew that; I posted it on HorsesAss a couple weeks ago.
Pretty soon we’re gonna see how Republicans “support the troops” when the troops run for Congress as anti-war Democrats. It doesn’t matter how many limbs you get blown off in a combat zone — if you don’t parrot the right-wing party line, they won’t hesitate to denigrate your military service or attack your patriotism.
Just ask Max Cleland or John McCain.
Republicans don’t support the troops. They only USE the troops to peddle their fascist ideology.
Just watch what they do to the troops who don’t support their warmongering, torturing, and atrocities.
Hey, do you remember all the noise and hoopla the Pukes made last year about the military vote? How many times have you seen Pukian Trolls claim in their posts that the military votes Republicans? Well, a recent informal poll shows that 8 out of 9 military veterans of the Iraq conflict who run for Congress vote DEMOCRAT. Looks like the Pukes LIED AGAIN.
Roger Pellet, you throw up shit about Moynihan, and then when caught you change the subject. I realize this is ASSHead modus operandi. It’s okay Pellet; we whom think right understand!!!!
Unfortunately for Dino Rossi, the military ballots WERE counted.
Maybe that explains why Republican legislators blocked a bill last year to hold the primary election earlier, so election officials will have more time to get ballots to soldiers, and soldiers will have more time to return them.
Not to worry, the Democrats — who control both houses of the state legislature — got it done this session despite GOP opposition. From now on, the primary will be in August.
If you want to help the troops vote, elect Democrats to the legislature.
Ah yes, Daniel P. Moynihan, who as a member of Nixon’s White House staff wrote, “the issue of race could benefit from a period of benign neglect”. Moynihan who, as Gerald Ford’s ambassador to the U.N., made sure the U.N. Security Council took no action against Indonesia for invading East Timor.
Yep, Daniel P. Moynihan, the Far Right’s favorite “liberal.”
Hey Pudding-brains, here’s a Moynihan quote for ya:
“Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts.”
Too bad the wingnuts don’t memorize that one, and take it to heart. (Moynihan was a bright guy, and was right about some things.)
Let’s put this quote in capital letters, frame it, and hang in above every troll post:
“EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO THEIR OWN OPINIONS, BUT THEY ARE NOT ENTITLED TO THEIR OWN FACTS.” — Daniel P. Moynihan
Have you ever noticed with liberals the grass is always greener in some other country. Of course none of them move there. I know America would be better off if they did move.
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I’d prefer that you move to another country, and the sooner the better, because your presence in mine is stinking it up.
You know something stinks when you see the shit running away from the outhouse.
Hey YO-yo @ 29
“HEY DJ BLOW ME WHY DONT YOU AND THE RABBIT RUN UP TO CANADA FOR THE FREE HEALTH CARE.WHY DO YOU THINK IF THECANADIANS HAVE A SERIOUS HEALTH PROBLEM THE COME TO THE SATATES TO GET IT DONE.THAT ARE THE RICH ONES ALL OTHERS GO ON A WAITING LIST.”
Sorry dude…I cannot find my Wingnut secret decoder ring right now. Perhaps somebody can service you at http://WingnutsPracticingAutolobotomies.org
RUFUS @ 61
“Have you ever noticed with liberals the grass is always greener in some other country.”
Well…maybe in 1976. But then we started spraying other countries with paraquat. Judging by the effluvia you post here, I’m guessing you got one hell of a dose.
I’m guessing ate paint chips as a child, too.
Hey, I think you moonbats missed an opportunity to look foolish.
Hundreds of people all over the world marched to protest the war to liberate Iraq.
Where were you moonbats in Seattle? Why weren’t you out protesting? Coupla dozen of you could have gotten some face time on the air.
I got another great idea… it’s amazing being me somtimes…
Over the weekend, a woman was mauled and injured by a pitbull dog. This kind of attack is becoming increasingly common.
Therefore:
WHEREAS Only assholes own pitbulls, and
WHEREAS assholes cannot be depended upon to act responsibly, and
WHEREAS pitbulls and dogs of similar species and temperment represent a clear danger to the populace
BE IT MOVED that the ownership, possession, or breeding of pitbulls and other dogs of similar temperment be banned from The McDermott Zone.
How many of you moonbats would support such a law? Your kneejerk reaction to anything dangerous is to ban it… so it seems like this would make perfect sense.
Let me know…
DJ: That was funny. I forgot about paraquat. Unfortunately you didn’t specify if they were lead laced paint chips or not!
Now I know what happened to Donnageddon, the EX-Environmental Chemist! Originally I thought it was Agent Orange but that changed Rabbit Pellet from a man to a rabbit! Thanks DJ. I couldn’t put my finger on what Donnageddon’s problem was!
My moonbat decoder ring needed an Internet update last week. Good thing I was in Atlanta. They have special moonbat decoder ring download stations near MARTA. Sometimes on MARTA you hear some strange shit. Those download stations really help us whom think right decipher moonbat speak!
So now Goldy is bleeding as the VERY 1ST Gay & Lesbian Afro-Jewish American SLAVE who survived the Holocaust in a Posh Philadelphia upscale neighborhood with a privileged upbringing.
WOW!!
How many more faces can Goldy don???
It is amazing that one scrawny little guy with a godawful screechy voice could survive all this adversity in one lifetime and still be standing upright!!
Category 5 Cyclone Smashes Into N.E. Australia
The Queensland premier called it their “worst storm in decades.” Cyclones (hurricanes) get energy from the heat in ocean water. But the powerful stroms of the last few years, as every trollfuck knows, doesn’t prove global warming; it only proves the Rapture is coming soon.
Man I can’t wait for the Rapture to get here! 144,000 Republicans will vanish in a millisecond! That’ll be a sight I gotta see!
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“it’s amazing being me somtimes” Commentby Mark The Redneck— 3/19/06@ 7:58 pm
Being you is amazing all the time.
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“How many of you moonbats would support such a law?”
Yes! Yes! Yes! Ban dogs!!!
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Predictably, one day after a woman gets mauled within an inch of her life, her face torn to shreds, MTR makes fun of laws banning dangerous pets.
MTR is living proof of why no Republican is fit to be elected dog catcher.
MTR doesn’t pay his gambling debts, either.
I believe the human term for that is “welsher.” Mark the Welsher.
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YO thinks if our health care system works for the rich, there’s nothing wrong with it.
It’s amazing that Republicans have the nerve to ask anyone to vote for them. What’s even more amazing is that at least 3 people actually do vote for them. (One of them works for Diebold, another works for Sequoia, and the other one works for ES&S.)
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Hey Mark how come you aren’t living in “liberated” Iraq? I saw a segment on the TV news tonight in which Iraqi citizens said they can’t even stick their noses out of their houses without getting shot. If they’re lucky, they have electricity 4 hours a day. On a good day, motorists wait only 12 hours in gas lines.
So Mark, how’s that “liberation” thing working out? By the way, can you tell us what “victory” in Iraqi consists of?
Mark loves the smell of napalm in the morning! There’s no smell like burning flesh. Because Mark is too chickenshit to join the military and go to Iraq himself, he tries to simulate it by cooking old sneakers in his kitchen microwave.
Mark doesn’t pay his gambling debts, either. He’s what humans call a “welsher.” That’s why he’s known on HorsesAss as Mark The Welsher.
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“It is amazing that one scrawny little guy with a godawful screechy voice could survive all this adversity in one lifetime and still be standing upright!!”
I agree that a wizened old hunchback like Cynical wouldn’t be able to figure that out, or relate to it.
Click here for photo of Mr. C: http://www.acclaimimages.com/_.....-5258.html
RR @ 74 – I’m not kidding. I’m serious. When I become Prime Minister of Planet Earth, I will ban gd dogs from all civilized areas.
Like rats abandoning ship, the rethugs are turning on the Pretend President!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11...../newsweek/
It’s amazing that Republicans have the nerve to ask anyone to vote for them. What’s even more amazing is that at least 3 people actually do vote for them. (One of them works for Diebold, another works for Sequoia, and the other one works for ES&S.)
Commentby Roger Rabbit— 3/19/06@ 8:43 pm
Lots of hot air. Everyone knows donks are not serious about voter fraud it would be too costly for them. Proof… mention IDing at the polls for registered voters and see how quickly a donk changes the subject.
“Lots of hot air. Everyone knows donks are not serious about voter fraud it would be too costly for them. Proof… mention IDing at the polls for registered voters and see how quickly a donk changes the subject. Commentby RUFUS— 3/19/06@ 9:28 pm”
yada yada yada
If you cared about voting fraud you would rant about Ohio.
“How many of you moon bats would support such a law?”
Yes! Yes! Yes! Ban dogs!!!
Commentby Roger Rabbit— 3/19/06@ 8:35 pm
Roger you hurt my dog feelings she just loves to chase rabbits. That old greyhound would run miles just to lick a rabbit. Hell a few times the rabbit had no pelt left afterwards. Write all the worthless laws you want but who are you getting to enforce them Roger?
You know something stinks when you see the shit running away from the outhouse.
Commentby Roger Rabbit— 3/19/06@ 7:05 pm
Roger maybe you better stay out of the outhouse.
It’s amazing that Republicans have the nerve to ask anyone to vote for them. What’s even more amazing is that at least 3 people actually do vote for them. (One of them works for Diebold, another works for Sequoia, and the other one works for ES&S.)
Commentby Roger Rabbit— 3/19/06@ 8:43 pm
Roger it took Dean Logan three counts to over turn the win.
So Mark, how’s that “liberation” thing working out? By the way, can you tell us what “victory” in Iraqi consists of?
Commentby Roger Rabbit— 3/19/06@ 8:45 pm
Roger we are waiting for your presents over there in Southwest Asia. WE need you to tell us what we need to do to win the War the way John Kerry would. Roger do you need some new uniforms since you burned your old ones after you came home from Viet Nam. What size do you wear Extra large in the pants? The shirt requires real small in the neck and with extra long sleeves. Do not worry we have folks who know how to make it fit to your odd shape body. Do not worry about the liberation part that is done, but we need to know what you call a real victory? By the way, with your presents over there the war might settle in a very short time period.
If you cared about voting fraud, you would rant about Ohio.
Commentby Roger Rabbit— 3/19/06@ 10:07 pm
We did but John Kerry threw in the towel and went home crying. It is too bad Seattle does not loan Dean Logan to Ohio to count the votes Roger.
Hey, shit happens in war. “Fog of war,” you know. Accidents happen, plus overstressed soldiers who’ve lost buddies blow away civilians. Happens in every war. I understand. Just don’t fucking lie about it, that’s all I ask.
Commentby Roger Rabbit— 3/19/06@ 6:15 pm
Roger didn’t the Kids in Viet Nam roll grenades in to your outhouse while you were talking to your favorite friend. Why don’t you ask your Canadian reporter who had a grenade thrown into her open car window in Afghanistan?
Klake @ 88
“Roger it took Dean Logan three counts to over turn the win.”
Oh man…more wingnut idiocy.
Earth to Klake: Gregoire took King County during the original count, the mandatory machine recount, and the hand recount!
Klake @ 90
“We did but John Kerry threw in the towel and went home crying. It is too bad Seattle does not loan Dean Logan to Ohio to count the votes Roger.”
What the fuck? That is not intelligent, snide, cute, sardonic, or even intelligible. Quit while you are a head, ya wingnut dork.
Klake @ 91
“Roger didn’t the Kids in Viet Nam roll grenades in to your outhouse while you were talking to your favorite friend. Why don’t you ask your Canadian reporter who had a grenade thrown into her open car window in Afghanistan?”
What the fuck is this supposed to mean, and how is it in any way related to what you quoted from Roger Rabbit?
Blogging under the influence, are ya, Klakie?
Earth to RUFUS the Dope at 84:
“mention IDing at the polls for registered voters and see how quickly a donk changes the subject.”
Ummmm…IDs are currently required at the polls, you fucking dolt!
Imagine, if you will, wingnut central (say, at RNC headquarters). There you will find some faceless functionary sifting through resumes for prospective trolls. Imagine them coming across Klake’s application.
I suspect that at one time wingnut central would not have even considered hiring a stupid Agitprop Specialist for their blog-jaming unit. However, at some point someone, somewhere made a “bad” hiring decision . . . but then came to realize that trolls don’t necessarily have to be smart to be effective at blog jamming.
This is, of course, pure speculation. Maybe Klake isn’t a professional troll. However, if he isn’t, he should be. Like Lt. Colombo, he always accomplishes his goal (distract, obfuscate, polarize) even if he looks like a royal idiot in the process.
@ 89 Klake said “Do not worry we have folks who know how to make it fit to your odd shape body. Do not worry about the liberation part that is done ”
Hey, Klake, what NAzi rag did you lift that from?
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“we need to know what you call a real victory?”
How about catching Osama, for starters? Oops, I forgot …
“”I don’t know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don’t care. It’s not that important. It’s not our priority. I am truly not that concerned about him.” George W. Bush, March 13, 2002
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If you want to know what a fucked-up election looks like, read the Conyers Report. http://truthout.org/Conyersreport.pdf
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You Republicans should be real proud of yourselves — locking up voting machines in warehouses so voters in poor neighborhoods had to wait in line for 6 or 8 hours to exercise a right that over a million Americans gave their lives in battle for. You stinking Nazis don’t deserve to call yourselves “Americans.”
Story from today’s Seattle Times:
“Afghan man who became Christian may face death for rejecting Islam
KABUL, Afghanistan — An Afghan man is being prosecuted in a Kabul court and could be sentenced to death on a charge of converting from Islam to Christianity, a crime under this country’s Islamic laws, a judge said Sunday.
Et cetera”
http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....ert20.html
The defendant, Abdul Rahman, left Afghanistan at least 16 years ago (to flee the Communists) and converted to Christianity while living in Pakistan. He stayed in Pakistan for four years, then immigrated to Germany and lived there nine years. He returned to Afghanistan in 2002, after the Taliban were overthrown. Rahman was arrested last month, when family members turned him in for being Christian due to bitterness resulting from a custody dispute over his two daughters.
WHAT IN THE HELL HAVE WE SPENT OVER A TRILLION DOLLARS AND THE LIVES OF THOUSANDS OF OUR SOLDIERS? We invaded and supposedly conquered Afghanistan because their regime was waging an Islamic “holy war” against the United States, which claimed the lives of thousands of innocent people in our country on September 11, 2001.
Couldn’t we have at least made sure that Afghanistan had FREEDOM OF RELIGION in the process?
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“Roger didn’t the Kids in Viet Nam roll grenades in to your outhouse while you were talking to your favorite friend. Why don’t you ask your Canadian reporter who had a grenade thrown into her open car window in Afghanistan? Commentby klake— 3/19/06@ 11:00 pm”
Is this how a skunk like you tries to justify the murder of unarmed civilians, including women and children?
Like I said, shit happens in war. Under fire, you have an extremely limited view of your surroundings because you’re using whatever cover is available. You don’t stick your head out to look around. You can’t see the enemy, and don’t know exactly where he is. Because you have to make life-or-death judgments in a split second, even well-trained, disciplined troops can mistake an unarmed civilian for a threat under certain circumstances.
But you can’t attribute what these Marines did to “the fog of war.” They went into the village, kicked down doors, entered homes, and shot obviously unarmed old people, women, and children at point-blank range. Witnesses later told reporters they made no effort to search for weapons, take prisoners, or secure the area. The Marines claimed they took fire from the village, but reporters who later visited the scene noted an absence of bullet holes in outside walls, which indicates the Marines were lying. The evidence is very strong that these were revenge killings — in a word, murder.
There is no excuse for that. Not only is it a criminal act under the UCMJ and international conventions, not only is it immoral, it also represents a breakdown of military discipline and order. It is, therefore, an offense against the military organization in which they were serving, and against the uniform they wore, and against the flag under which they were serving. The flag of our country.
And you sit there and type smart-aleck excuses for murder. This demonstrates what a sorry puke you are. Unfortunately, most wingnuts have no more brains or morals than you, and utter exactly the same disgusting, vile sentiments.
By the way, you dumb illiterate fuck, the correct spelling of the word “presence” is not “presents.” Were you a star pupil in “Hooked on Phonics?” Did you learn to read from a cassette tape because you flunked out of third grade? Idiot.
Here’s a present (not “presents” or “presence”) for you: Why don’t you read this excerpt from Time Magazine in which a 9-year-old girl describes how her entire family was murdered by AMERICANS in front of her eyes:
“When the Marines entered the house, they were shouting in English. ‘First, they went into my father’s room, where he was reading the Koran,’ she claims, ‘and we heard shots.’ According to Eman, the Marines then entered the living room. ‘I couldn’t see their faces very well–only their guns sticking into the doorway. I watched them shoot my grandfather, first in the chest and then in the head. Then they killed my granny.’ She claims the troops started firing toward the corner of the room where she and her younger brother Abdul Rahman, 8, were hiding; the other adults shielded the children from the bullets but died in the process. Eman says her leg was hit by a piece of metal and Abdul Rahman was shot near his shoulder. ‘We were lying there, bleeding, and it hurt so much. Afterward, some Iraqi soldiers came. They carried us in their arms. I was crying, shouting ‘Why did you do this to our family?’ And one Iraqi soldier tells me, ‘We didn’t do it. The Americans did.’ …
“Dr. Wahid, director of the local hospital in Haditha, … says the Marines brought 24 bodies to his hospital …. Wahid says the Marines claimed the victims had been killed by shrapnel from the roadside bomb. ‘But it was obvious to us that there were no organs slashed by shrapnel,’ Wahid says. ‘The bullet wounds were very apparent. Most of the victims were shot in the chest and the head–from close range.'”
Now let’s see — if the Marines fired in legitimate self-defense, why did they LIE about what happened? LYING is what people do when they know they’ve DONE SOMETHING WRONG that they may GO TO JAIL for.
Yes, Klake, the military has opened a criminal investigation, and there may be prosecutions.
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Come on, Richard, you’re an educated man and know the answer. We did NOT invade Afghanistan to establish Christianity there, or to make that country safe for Christian converts. The mission was to destroy the terrorist training camps, replace the Taliban government because it was in league with Al Qaeda, capture or kill Al Qaeda leaders and operatives, and disrupt AQ’s operations — which is possible to accomplish by military means. But military power can’t change social and religious rules and practices that have been in place for hundreds or thousands of years.
These people stone their own wives and daughters for adultery, which seems barbaric to us, but to them performs the essential social function of maintaining the power and control structures of the family, clan, and tribe. Likewise, they persecute Christian converts because Christianity and its efforts to convert indigenuous peoples away from their native religion is a threat to their entire social structure. Islam is more than a religion; it also governs social, banking, and business behavior. The introduction of alien religious beliefs and practices is extremely disruptive to their societies.
This guy knew his own culture, and what could happen to him if he returned home, yet he chose to go anyway. He chose to run the risk. However, the chances of him actually being executed are slim — it’s common for Islamic courts to impose symbolic death sentences which are later set aside by religious or secular authorities.
This is their society, and we can’t interfere in it. We have to let them run their culture according to their long-established customs. Nor are cases like this a problem we have to deal with. We’re there to put Al Qaeda out of business, not remake their culture or force a different religion on them.
I’m having a great time at Yale!!! No American military vet could ever get accepted by Yale, but I, with a forth grade education, and a former spokeman for the Taliban, love it here!!! Democrats looooooove diversity!! Well here I am!!!!! Vote Democrat!!! Hate Bush!!! Ala achbar!!!
I’m having a great time at Yale!!! No American military vet could ever get accepted by Yale, but I, with a forth grade education, and a former spokeman for the Taliban, love it here!!! Democrats looooooove diversity!! Well here I am!!!!! Vote Democrat!!! Hate Bush!!! Ala achbar!!! Yale!!! We hate Bush!! We hate ROTC!! We love Democrats and terrorists!!!!!!!!!!!!
Serve in the American military, and go to Yale!!! No a chance!! But Hate Bush!! Serve Bin Laden!! Here I am in the Freshman Class!!!!!!!!
Hey MTR, I have a great way to fund our state’s education system. Lets file a ‘referendum’ to force the state’s top 10% in income to be taxed an equal amount of their ‘GWB tax break’ and put this $ in a dedicated educational account. Sounds fair to me. Let the ones that can afford it the easiest pay for the state’s working class families to get a quality education.
” Dubai, which agreed this month to sell its interest in U.S. ports, said its $1.2 billion takeover of a U.K. company with U.S. plants that make military equipment is delayed while the authorities investigate security concerns.
Dubai International Capital LLC, which is owned by the government of the Persian Gulf emirate, and Doncasters Group Ltd. agreed to delay the transaction by as many as two months from March 31 while government agencies review the purchase, Sameer Al Ansari, Dubai International’s chief executive, said in an interview today.”
Sure, let the UAE be in charge of our weapons manufacturing. I am sure everything will be ok……..for them at least.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/.....zMpDKuMkM#
So, they wqanna kill some dude in Afghabistan because he’d rather be Christian rather than a Muslim. Boy, that Islam is really, really a terrific relgion isn’t it?
How in the hell did the US get involved with these ragheads? We need to figure out a way to use up every drop of Middle Eastern oil so that we then have no use for them. Then they can go back to killing each other and living in the Sixth Century.
Coug – yeah, that’s a great idea. Tax the shit out of the producers while you parasites get a free ride.
Since you’re obviously a fan of grouchoandharpoism… how much do you think is “enough” income and accumulated wealth?
Give me numbers…
Another WingNut is feeling the heat:
“Julie Doolittle (wife of CA Congressman John Doolittle) has a consulting firm called Sierra Dominion Financial Solutions. Two of her clients are her husband’s leadership PAC and campaign, for which she does fundraising. She gets a 15% commission on contributions. Doolittle’s hilarious justification for paying her on commission is that she has to work for her money, “because if you don’t raise any money you don’t get paid.” So we’re supposed to think of this little arrangement as a high-minded application of free market principles. Keep in mind that Doolittle is in a securely Republican district and that he sits on the Appropriations Committee. This is not a man who’s been in danger of losing his seat; fundraising is not much of a task. According to the SDUT- and I find this hard to believe – he outraised his last opponent by $935,907 to $2,300.
So this was in effect free money. Doolittle was in a very strong position to raise funds. By his own admission, his wife even got a cut of contributions resulting from his fundraising calls – all she had to do was bring him the list.
And let’s not forget here that Abramoff, his associates and clients gave Doolittle some $140,000 in contributions since 1999. How much did Julie Doolittle get of that?
But it gets fishier.
Doolittle has said that he is not his wife’s major client. But the SDUT reports that she’s gotten $180,000 in commissions since late 2001 – so she brings in around $60,000 a year from just his business, even though he’s supposedly a minor client. Neither Doolittle nor his wife will say who those other clients are, and as Josh points out, of the only other three that we know about, two are Jack Abramoff’s restaurant and charity, and the other is connected to Ed Buckham, another player in the Abramoff scandal.”
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/000132.php
On the same topic: What a great name for a Republican Politician!!! Doolittle (for the working class, DooMuch for corporations and other WingNuts)
Well to start with MTR, lets just use you and your imaginary wealth as a defining point. Anyone who’s income is equal to or greater than MTR’s will have their US Taxbreak redirected to Washington State Education.
Oops, maybe not such a good idea, if we do that even the unemployed will have to ‘donate’ for education.
You didn’t answer the question. In your opinion, how much money does someone “need”.
Give me a number. Asshole…
To all concerned, we have been overlooking something very obvious in JCH’s earlier postings. With his ‘attention deficiency dissorder’ he cannot keep focussed on the simplest of details. I now believe him when he states that he graduated from Penn State…….he just lost focus and forgot to add ‘Eastern……..Pennitentary’
I always find it fascinating that broke losers like you consider themselves experts in how other people should spend THEIR money. Here’s an idea… how ’bout you make yer own goddam money. Or are you too stoopid or too fucking lazy?
MTR, if you took the time to read all posts you would have been enlightened to read that Washington currently ranks in the bottom 40% of the US in education monies per student.
Uh… no…. only if you drink the kool aid. OSPI report is a lie. They don’t include ALL the money.
For an honest report, read what EFF did. We’re WELL above average.
For example, on Friday I found out that even though I hand over a third of my pension check to an ex-employer every month to pay for my COBRA health benefits, my health coverage was cancelled on January 1 because the ex-employer took my money and didn’t buy the health insurance with it! So now, if I get sick (like I did last year), I’m fucked.
I like Castro’s system better. He confiscates the employer’s property, shoots the employer, and the workers get quality health care for free. We need something like that in America.
Commentby Roger Rabbit— 3/19/06@ 3:42 pm
Gee Wabbit — I thought you were retired from the State of Washington. Gregoire took 1/3 of your money, but you don’t get health care benefits? Sounds a lot like Castro’s system. You don’t get to shoot your employer, instead your employer shoots you. So what employer would you like to see face the firing squad?
“WHAT IN THE HELL HAVE WE SPENT OVER A TRILLION DOLLARS AND THE LIVES OF THOUSANDS OF OUR SOLDIERS? We invaded and supposedly conquered Afghanistan because their regime was waging an Islamic “holy war” against the United States, which claimed the lives of thousands of innocent people in our country on September 11, 2001.
Couldn’t we have at least made sure that Afghanistan had FREEDOM OF RELIGION in the process?”
Really, Richard, I hope that’s just naïveté speaking. US military intervention in Iraq never had anything to do with creating an egalitarian, democratic society. The elimination of the Taliban, by the way, was only one of the official rationales for the intervention. So was the task of finding bin Laden.
Please do yourself a favor and educate yourself a bit about the administration’s real objectives in Afghanistan. You can start with CentGas. You might also want to do a little research on the history of the Taliban as well — they didn’t come from nowhere, after all.
“How in the hell did the US get involved with these ragheads?”
I guess that’s not a racist slur. Again, a bit of research into the history of the Taliban could be very instructive. You might learn a thing or two about the perfidy of the US government.
“We need to figure out a way to use up every drop of Middle Eastern oil so that we then have no use for them. Then they can go back to killing each other and living in the Sixth Century.”
I’ll take that as a statement of so-callled “compassionate conservatism.”
117 – MTR is so addicted to the wingnut koolaid he believes the Evergreen Fraudulent Foundation is in the business of “truth”.
Rasmussen numbers are out (3-20):
Cantwell 49%, McGavick 36%
Favorables: Cantwell 60%-35%, McGavick 37%-32%
Favorables & Job Approval: Gregiore 57%
Wabbit @ 103
Sounds like a typical moonbat reaction to totalitarian Islam. At the same time, these same moonbats want to persecute Christians who merely want to have their beliefs promote by legislative processes. Maybe if South Dakota passed a law to burn heretics, the moonbats would have to accept that as part of “South Dakota culture”. Instead, they are crying and bellyaching because South Dakota wants to ban abortion. In any event, if totalitarian Islam came to power in the United States, the moonbats would be the first people that they would go after.
Dr.E, you are really a pompous dick. You’re soooooo liberal and soooo hip, sooooo smug. GFYS!
when stefan’s commenters over at Usp talk about “international financiers”, do you suppose he knows who they are referring to?
countries with universal health care spend about 7% of their GDP on health care. They have longer life spans and lower infant mortality.
we, on the other hand, spend over 15% of our GDP on health care– and we don’t even get the health care. these x-treme right wing JBS arguments from the mid-sixties just don’t have legs. they never did.
Clay – Don’t just spew bullshit. Facts and sources please.
Hey MTR! It’s working!”
re 119: the elimination of the taliban had to do with the taliban’s successful efforts to ban poppy production, thus cutting off the heroin supply that the cia funds itself with. the x-treme right wing of the republican party also funds itself from heroin profits. that’s why poppy production is the highest its ever been under u.s. control.
re 127: i’nm.
International financiers
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
International financiers or international bankers could have a number of meanings depending on context.
In the world of finance, international bankers or international financiers are individuals or financial institutions that have substantial international presences. This includes most investment banks and many of the largest banks in most nations. International banks are challenged by the need to comply with a wide range of national banking legislation. There are a number of associations for international bankers, such as the The Institute of International Bankers.
International financiers and international bankers may also be used to refer to international finance institutions such as the World Bank and International Monetary Fund.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I.....financiers
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Nice comeback. Let’s review:
“How in the hell did the US get involved with these ragheads?”
Those are your words, mate, not mine. As are these:
“We need to figure out a way to use up every drop of Middle Eastern oil so that we then have no use for them. Then they can go back to killing each other and living in the Sixth Century.”
If I’m supposed to believe all the crap that wingnut trolls post here, it’s only the Democrats (or “liberals”, or “progressives”, since most trolls seem to think that those terms are one and the same) that can be racist an intolerant. Is this true, and if so, where does your comment stand in relation to that assertion?
BTW, are you sure you know what “pompous” means? “Pedantic,” while still wrong, would have been a better choice.
re 127: i’m not your research assistent. prove me wrong.
yes , richard, of course that’s what they mean…
Clay Shaw @ 134
Actually, there NEVER have been any comments posted on Sound Politics using the term “international financiers”. So you are full of bullshit.
I assume that YOUR definition of “international financiers” is something different than the portion of the Wikipedia article that I quoted. Why do you hate Jewish people so much?
Clay – So in other words, you’re full of shit.
Thought so…
i>Mark doesn’t pay his gambling debts, either. He’s what humans call a “welsher.” That’s why he’s known on HorsesAss as Mark The Welsher.
Commentby Roger Rabbit— 3/19/06@ 8:47 pm”
Why doesn’t MTR pay his gambling debt?
Could it be that the multi-millionaire Eastsider cannot afford the $100 bucks?
Yeah, that exactly what it is. IF he was as wealthy as he likes to portray himself, he’d toss a $100 bill like it was used Kleenex, but he’s a poor, trailer-park, white-trash parasite who can’t come up with the dough.
MTR, you’re pathetic.
Yossarian,
I don’t think we can “un-involve” ourseves from the Middle Eastern mess: there is just too much support for Israel in America (both right and left), and it seems most of the other countries in the region would like to blow Israel off the map. As far as using up the oil to make the Islamic countries irrelevant, that’s pretty much a fantasy. We’d do better to come up with a complete subsitute for oil, and we’re along way from that!
Dr. E,
You didn’t say anything about Yossarian’s first part of his post. He brought up an important aspect about Islam in that the religion tends to be very intolerant. Your thought?
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Sure, since you asked:
Y seems to view Islam as a monolithic religion. I would agree that some strains of Islam (particularly any fundamentalist strain) are indeed intolerant. This, however, is not unique to Islam; the same can be found in fundamentalist Christianity, Judaism, etc. So, to blame Islam (seemingly in its entirety) alone for religious intolerance is inaccurate.
Rakeface – You’re back…
Before we get started… can you call me “chilling” again?
Dr. E,
Good points and very informative. You obviously are a scholar of high intelligence and merit. I’d like it if we were able to stop the extremist followers of Islam from inflicting harm and terrorism on the West, but I cerntainly don’t know how we could accomlish such a goal. Bush doesn’t either. Bush’s biggest problem is he and the Republicans don’t have such a good understanding of the Middle East, just as Yossarian and his (her?) comments above. Freeing Iraq of Saddam does not guarantee the Iraqis will love us. I think most Americans are starting to realize that. My opinion is that there is nothing we can do to make the region our friends.
Dr. E,
Good points and very informative. You obviously are a scholar of high intelligence and merit….
Commentby Libertarian— 3/20/06@ 10:01 am
Libertarian: you’re a suck-up!
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Just a quick addendum here —
I see the Bush administration’s ignorance of Islam to be only a part of the problem with the Iraqi quagmire. They also have displayed either a near complete ignorance and/or disregard for both the ethnic makeup of both Iraq and the region, as well as its immediate and more remote history. Their agenda, which is more driven by controlling the resources of the region than anything else, seems to have a fairly short timeline — 50 years, perhaps — while simultaneously disregarding history of the millennia of continous civilization in the area. They ignore these details at their own peril, and have bean reaping the harvest of such ignorance for several years now.
To that I might add that any idea that this administration might have of engaging Iran militarily is similarly both dangerous and misguided, but is still, as far as I can tell, informed by the same reckless vision. They can attempt to disguise their agenda under the aegis of a global “war on terror” as much as they’d like, but that erases neither the history of the region nor the extremely complex realities on the ground — realities which, in the case of Iran, are at least as complex (if not more so) than those in Iraq.
E – Let me explain Iran in real simple terms. Iran cannot be allowed to have nukes because the country is run by nutcases. Nobody gives a fuck about their internal subcultures because they are not relevent to the situation at hand.
Kooks can’t have nukes.
Get it?
I have a suspicion that the Israelis will take action againt Iran if that country is developing nukes. I’m hoping we are out of Iraq (and thus out of the way) if that happens.
You know redneck, you keep quoting
“…how big a capacitator do we need to shoot MTR into orbit with a flashlight battery?
Commentby Roger Rabbit— 3/12/06@ 3:42 pm”
as if it were a silly thing to say. If you really were an engineer, you would have heard of the concept of a railgun.
Democrats and Terrorists at Yale!!! Yeah!!! What a great “liberal arts” school!!!!!!!
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I love the “German” spelling of “Allah Akbar!” Now find me a German-speaking Muslim to pronounce it for me, JCH. You are an illiterate fool.
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Cougar, I have a better idea — make them pay for their war and the $3 trillion of national debt they ran up. They should also compensate all middle class people for the inflation they caused.
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“How in the hell did the US get involved with these ragheads?” Commentby Yossarian— 3/20/06@ 7:34 am
I was hoping you idiots could answer that question, since you got us involved.
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MTR — the only thing you produce is useless hot air and unpaid gambling debts.
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Republican congressmen are so corrupt even their wives steal.
GOP = thief
Hey, this is just practice, next year Mrs. Doolittle will get 15% of the federal budget passing through her hubby’s committee.
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“How in the hell did the US get involved with these ragheads?” Commentby Yossarian— 3/20/06@ 7:34 am
I was hoping you idiots could answer that question, since you got us involved.
Commentby Roger Rabbit— 3/20/06@ 12:08 pm
Roger, the involvement goes back to even befoer the founding of Israel as a modern country after WWII, you idiot. It ain’t got anything to do with only conservatives, and it ain’t got anything to do with only liberals. And the involvement has been going on too long!
“Iran cannot be allowed to have nukes because the country is run by nutcases.”
The same standard should then apply to the government of the USA, which is run by a bunch of psychotic, mass-murdering war criminals. Take the nukes out of the hands of Rummy and Dickie and I’ll support keeping them out of the hands of Ahmadinejad.
Why do you think they want nukes, though? We let Kim Jong-Il have his nukes, and he’s a hell of a lot crazier than the theocrats in Teheran. The real issue for Bushco is not the simple question as to whether the Iranians should be allowed to have nuclear weapons. No, the real issue is that Bushco feels that it must have the sole determinative power as to which nations be allowed to deter US imperialism.
“Nobody gives a fuck about their internal subcultures because they are not relevent to the situation at hand.”
One word: bullshit. Your comment displays a complete ignorance of the complexity of the ethnic and cultural makeup of both Iran and the wider region. We already have first-hand evidence of what happens when an ignorant foreign power destabilizes the artificial order in a fictitious nation (i.e. Iraq, historically speaking) — you get chaos and internecine violence. That’s not to say that the ethnic makeup of Iran or its historical geographic boundaries are the same as those of Iraq, but with one nation in the region already critically destabilized, the destabilization of yet another puts the entire region in a perilous situation. I’m talking about neighboring nations as well, c’mon, name them with me, I’m sure you know them: Azerbaijan, Armenia, Georgia, Turkmenistan, etc.
Nukes are a ruse, Mark, just like WMDs were in Iraq. The idea of nukes triggers the brain-stem fear reflex of the uninformed masses — of which you almost certainly are a member, given your comments — and encourages those masses to consent to their government’s nefarious activities. It also keeps that willfully ignorant population blind to the thoroughly fascist agenda of the sociopaths in Washington, DC.
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“In your opinion, how much money does someone “need”.” Commentby Mark The Redneck— 3/20/06@ 7:50 am
They don’t need any of mine.
The fallacy of MTR’s argument is he assumes having money is the same as “earning” it. He doesn’t concern himself with how people get money. The answer to his question, of course, is that “how” is more important than “how much.”
For example, Seattle City Light ratepayers have seen their electric bills triple since 2000. Why? Because the Enron scumbags illegally manipulated the market, and stole our money. We’re still paying for their thievery — and we will continue to do so for years, if not decades, to come. How was this possible? Because Bush deregulated the electric industry, and Cheney put Ken Lay on his secret energy task force, and the Republicans and their industry lobbyist friends stabbed consumers in the back in their secret, smoke-filled rooms. And MTR is guilty of stealing my money because he voted for these assholes, and continues to support them. You owe me, MTR, you fucking thief.
As another example, senior citizens across the land are paying higher prices for prescription drugs because Bush made price competition illegal in the pharmaceutical industry. To top off his thievery, he gave $750 billion of our hard-earned tax money to his drug and insurance industry pals, with little or no benefit to ordinary citizens. That’s not “earning,” it’s STEALING.
I could give more examples, but this is sufficient to make my point — STEALING IS NOT EARNING, and STOLEN MONEY IS NOT EARNED MONEY. MTR’s problem is he’s so ethically deficient he can’t tell the difference between “earning” and STEALING. As for “working,” MTR doesn’t know what “work” — if someone handed him a shovel, he wouldn’t know what to do with it. That’s how he got those rake marks on his face!
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“OSPI report is a lie.” Commentby Mark The Redneck— 3/20/06@ 8:12 am
yada yada, typical wingnutty response, when the facts make liars of them, they lie about the facts. Hey MTR, take a word of advice from (late) Sen. Moynihan, you wingnuts’ favorite “liberal”:
“Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts.”
Serve in the American military, and go to Yale!!! No a chance!! But Hate Bush!! Serve Bin Laden!! Here I am in the Freshman Class!!!!!!!!
Commentby Sayed Rahmatullah Hashemi— 3/20/06@ 7:28 am
Roger and Dr. E is this chap one of your new or old supporters?
MTR @ 140
How about paying your debt???
What’s the matter $500,000 in alimony strained the budget??
Baaaa haaa haaa haaa haaa.
You and JCH have a lot in common; you’re both fucking liars.
Cough up the $100 bucks to Goldy and prove us wrong, or don’t and prove us to be right that you’re trailer trash.
Pussy.
MTR:
The problem with the United States getting involved with attacking Iran is that Bush’s incompetence has absolutely ruined America’s credibility around the world. Not one of our allies is going to get involved militarily with us on this issue.
So much for having the “adults” in charge.
Do you think the Bush admin. will bring Colin Powell out of retirement to give a “blistering” report on the facts surrounding Iran’s WMD program to the U.N.?
Yeah, that’ll go over like a fart in a space helmet.
Hello moonbats: I have a proposition for you. Since many of you are against yankee capitalism and complain of yankee imperialism, why not support Islamic Imperialism?
You know the type of imperialism where women get clitorectomies so they can never enjoy sex.
You know the type of imperialism where women where burqas.
You know the type of imperialism where men go to school and women are left dumb and they stay at home.
You know the type of imperialism where men pray by themselves and women do too.
You know the type of imperialism where if a woman walks down the street alone she could be killed.
You know the type of imperialism where if a woman visits a doctor by herself she can be killed.
You know the type of imperialism where if a woman has premarital sex, she can be mercy killed because she embarassed her family.
You know the type of imperialism where if a woman wears nail polish on her fingers she can be killed.
You know the type of imperialism where men must grow beards and pray five times a day to someone other than Jesus.
Yes, Islam, what a religion; loved by libruls!
Me, I follow Joshua 24:15. For the Clueless and other libruls, blow off the dust on the Bible and read Joshua!
KLake: Sayed Rahmatullah Hashemi was the mouth of the Taliban and Bin Laden before 9/11. He was admitted into Yale University to matriculate as a student. Typical librul institution where a pinhead such as Sayed can get an education after being the mouth of the Taliban. I bet he didn’t graduate middle school. I bet the ASSHeads are proud!
I bet Dr. E and Perfessor DJ would be proud to have Sayed Rahmatullah Hashemi in their classes!
Who flew the bin Laden family out of the U.S. after 9/11? Their business partners: the Bush family.
Once again Horseless Looslips FORGETS history. Your hero, Richard Clarke (remember him who wrote the book) gave the order to fly them out. I have told you this at least 5 times on ASSHeads. The problem with libruls is when confronted with the truth, they choose no to accept it, because if they did it, would rock their world!
Richard Clarke, who served as President Bush’s chief of counterterrorism, has claimed sole responsibility for approving flights of Saudi Arabian citizens, including members of Osama bin Laden’s family, from the United States immediately after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.
In an interview with The Hill yesterday, Clarke said, “I take responsibility for it. I don’t think it was a mistake, and I’d do it again.”
http://www.hillnews.com/news/052604/clarke.aspx
Horseless Looselips, on his was to becoming as dumb as Donnageddon!
Wow, early in the morning: shoudl read …on his way to becoming…
next… should not shoudl! I need some Tully’s!
Commentby Cougar— 3/20/06@ 7:55 am
“MTR, if you took the time to read all posts you would have been enlightened to read that Washington currently ranks in the bottom 40% of the US in education monies per student.”
More money doesn’t necessarily solve the problem. I’d support more public money for education if reform was part of the package. Throwing more money at the current system isn’t going to significantly improve the education of children in our state, we need reform, ie. vouchers, merit pay, and year round school.