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“The David Goldstein Show” tonight on Newsradio 710-KIRO

by Goldy — Sunday, 11/5/06, 5:48 pm

It’s been a bird-free day — no Seahawks, no Eagles — so tune in for some political football tonight on “The David Goldstein Show” on Newsradio 710-KIRO, from 7PM to 10PM.

7PM: Do Republicans have a prayer? Seattle P-I political columnist Joel Connelly spent the day checking out the spirit at some of our local mega-churches, and he joins me in the studio to talk about Tuesday’s midterm election, and how the latest sex scandal might impact its outcome. We’ll also be getting a field report from fellow blogger TJ of Loaded Orygun, whose been following some very interesting ballot return trends that could have the red team feeling awfully blue down in the Beaver State.

8PM: Is flipping off the President a fireable offense? An Issaquah school bus driver gave President Bush the finger, and his fellow Republicans cheered when Rep. Dave Reichert took credit for getting the woman fired… credit which Reichert now says he doesn’t deserve. Taking Reichert at his word (that is, his latest word) what does this say about the first-term congressman’s character that he would actually brag about getting the single, working mom fired, when he says he had nothing to do with it? Chris Dugovich from the Washington State Council of County and City Employees will call in to give the driver’s side of the story, and we’ll be playing audio and taking your calls.

9PM: What do you get when you pack four drunken bloggers into the KIRO studio? Will, Mollie and Carl join me almost every week on Podcasting Liberally, recorded live at Seattle’s Montlake Alehouse, and they’ll be joining me in the studio for a Drinking Liberally roundtable discussion of electoral push. Is this the year a big blue wave sweeps the Democrats into power? Or will Karl Rove prove that American democracy is dead, and that nothing short of a violent revolution can dislodge the GOP from the reigns of power? Give us a call and let us know what you think, before all of us liberal bloggers are shipped off to Gitmo.

Tune in tonight (or listen to the live stream) and give me a call: 1-877-710-KIRO (5476).

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  1. 1

    Don Joe spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 5:52 pm

    Reports are coming in about NRCC robocalls in various tight districts. There’s a good rundown on spending reports here.

    Since I’m in the 1st CD, I’m not privy to anything happening in the 8th CD. But, one does have to wonder. Perhaps this is something to cover on the show?

  2. 2

    Don Joe spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 5:54 pm

    I should add that the robocalls are nefarious. They start off saying that they have some information about the Democratic candidate. The call then stays silent for a few seconds to see if the recipient hangs up. If the recipient doesn’t hang up, then the call then goes on to give negative information aboout the Democratic candidate. If the recipient hangs up, then they are called back multiple times (5 in some districts, 7-8 in others). Josh Marshall has several posts on this.

  3. 3

    skagit spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 6:02 pm

    So they think the Dems are making the calls and there’s no one there. How dirty do people have to be to think up these tricks?

  4. 4

    skagit spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 6:02 pm

    Also, I thought Will’s Pike Place site was shut down. When I bring it up, I get Wild Cat videos . . .

  5. 5

    Another TJ spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 6:05 pm

    It’s been a bird-free day

    You’d better confirm that with Reichert.

  6. 6

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 6:14 pm

    #

    Is there some reason you don’t want to tell me what public services your work in rabbit?

    I was just curious. The only thing I know about you is that your wife kisses drunk lama’s or something

    Commentby The Socialist— 11/5/06@ 5:58 pm
    #

    So if Sadum is guilty of war crimes because he killed 150,000 people . So does that mean Bush and Company are war criminals after killing 650,000 people in Iraq?

    Im just asking

    Commentby The Socialist— 11/5/06@ 6:04 pm
    #

    Know body thinks this Sadum verdict a couple days before the election has anything to do with politics do they ?

    Commentby The Socialist— 11/5/06@ 6:0

  7. 7

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 6:16 pm

    Is the dust bunny lurking around in here ?

  8. 8

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 6:25 pm

    Oh what a minute I think I remember what Bunny Loves does . You work in the parks department rabbit?

    I use to work in the Everett Parks department up here in Forest Park for a couple Summers. That is were I did that their ditch digging putting in earagations systems around the parks and little flower bed and tree median in the middle of the street.

  9. 9

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 6:30 pm

    I image the Rabbit is one of those big wig mangers that are always feeling up the cute little hippy flower planter girls.

  10. 10

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 6:32 pm

    yes this is roast a Rabbit night on HA lol :-)

  11. 11

    Another TJ spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 6:40 pm

    Speaking of robocalls, looks like the Republicans are facing potentially $100 million in fines. This seems to be a theme for the GOP.

  12. 12

    Will spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 6:40 pm

    Skagit-

    My old blog is shut down, and was snatched up by some Korean guy who shows video of lions and tigers. Goldy’s link is to my Myspace page.

  13. 13

    Commander Ogg spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 6:47 pm

    Don Joe @ 2

    Yeah, I heard about the robocalls. Sometimes my fellow progressives keep forgetting the one consistent factor in the last 7-8 years when it comes to the new Republican Party (after Goldwater died in ’98) and elections.

    They Cheat. All the time.

    And no, it has nothing to do with the obvious sh-t like election 2000. They started to cheat in the late 1990’s, with ex congress critter Tom Delay and “Casino” Jack Abramoff:

    Deep in the plea agreements of Jack Abramoff and his cronies is the admission that they conspired to use campaign contributions to bribe politicians; campaign finance is at the core of the corruption. They took great pains to cover their tracks, and they might have pulled it off except for a handful of honest people, and the work of some enterprising print reporters, Senate investigators, and the ethics team at the department of justice. Following the money in this story leads through a bizarre maze of cocktail parties, golf courses, private jets, four-star restaurants, sweatshops – and the aura of chandeliered rooms frequented by the high and mighty of Washington.”

    http://www.pbs.org/moyers/moye.....index.html

    Money was the key, a shake down scheme initiated by Delay, aided by Jack, and funneled thru Glover “Date Rape” Norquist and his phony anti-tax 501 group. Money to buy elections.

    Bastards could no sooner win an honest election then pigs could fly. And they are aided by a whore press that gives them a free pass. And yeah, Republicans really, truly would murder their own Mother or pimp their Sister if it would help them win an election. They have no shame.

  14. 14

    For the Clueless spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 6:49 pm

    Where is the new fuel source in Seattle or are they still studing what to do next on taxpayers money?
    HICKAM AIR FORCE BASE, Hawaii (AFPN) — State and U.S. Air Force officials gathered here Nov. 2 to unveil Hawaii’s and the service’s first hydrogen generation and dispensing station.

    The event marked the completion of a major achievement in a multi-phased alternative fuel vehicle development program that was launched five years ago.

    “From the beginning, this has been a partnership between the state of Hawaii and the Air Force,” said William C. Anderson, assistant secretary of the Air Force for installations, environment and logistics.

    “We’ve been working together since 2001 to bring this project together and through that effort created the National Demonstration Center for Alternative Fuel,” Secretary Anderson said. “The 15th Airlift Wing, the (Air Force Advanced Power Technology Office) and the Hawaii Center for Advanced Transportation Technologies have driven this project forward.”

    With higher standards for clean air and a need for less dependence on foreign oil, interest in alternate fuels has never been greater.

    Increasing energy costs for the Air Force has significantly impacted money that would be better spent on the war on terrorism or recapitalizing the aging fleet.

    Hydrogen is one of the key fuels considered for this initiative because it is renewable, abundant and efficient. Unlike other alternates, it produces no emissions.

    “It’s great to be here today for such an exciting gathering for such an important subject. Our state is located 2,500 miles from anywhere and we are the most oil-dependent state in America,” said Hawaii Gov. Linda Lingle. “The opening of the United States Air Force’s first hydrogen station is a major milestone for Hawaii and for the nation.”

    The first phase of this project focused on the development of all-electric, battery-powered vehicles and fast charging infrastructure. Phase II initiated the introduction of hydrogen fuel cell powered vehicles.

    In February 2004, Hawaii’s first fuel cell vehicle, a 30-foot shuttle bus powered by batteries and a fuel cell, was introduced. The bus has been operational here for the past two years.

    This was followed by two additional fuel cell powered vehicles — a step van and an MB-4 aircraft tow tractor.

    The development and commissioning of the DOD’s first deployable on-site hydrogen generation system is a step toward the future for the Air Force, Hawaii, Hickam AFB and the hydrogen economy, according to Mike Mead, chief, Air Force Advanced Power Technology office.

    “Today’s Air Force is a deployable force, so we must have the technology developed to support the warfighter wherever they are deployed,” he said. “The on-site hydrogen generation or fuel system is one of those initiatives we are working on.”

    In an effort to end this country’s dependence on foreign oil, the Air Force is leading the way.

    “The hydrogen experiment is all part of developing domestic assured fuels so that the Air Force can do the job every day that you all pay us to do,” said Secretary Anderson. “And that job, of course, is to win the global war on terrorism.”

  15. 15

    RightEqualsStupid spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 6:49 pm

    Here’s the difference between us and them. The GOP has to make shit up. All we have to do is outline the 18 GOP Congressman and Senators under indictment, arrest, probation, investigation or conviction along with the 20 prominent GOP members and minions caught getting blowjobs from male escorts and it’s game over.

  16. 16

    For the Clueless spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 7:05 pm

    So if Sadum is guilty of war crimes because he killed 150,000 people . So does that mean Bush and Company are war criminals after killing 650,000 people in Iraq?

    Im just asking

    Commentby The Socialist— 11/5/06@ 6:04 pm

    No but standing on the side lines will kill a lot more victims over a longer period of time. You know Hilter, Pol Pot, Mao Zedong, Marshal Tito,Mikhail Gorbachev,Nikita Khrushchev,Hugo Chávez,Joseph Stalin’s,Vladimir Lenin, and Fidel Castro.
    Nov. 5, 2006 – Without the help of American servicemembers, today’s verdict against Saddam Hussein would not have been possible, the commander in chief said today in Waco, Texas.

    President Bush called the trial “a milestone” in Iraq’s efforts to replace the rule of a tyrant with the rule of law. Today’s verdict, he said, represents a major achievement for Iraq’s young democracy and its constitutional government.

    The Iraqi High Tribunal found Saddam guilty in his actions against the citizens of Dujail, Iraq, and sentenced him to death by hanging.

    In the 1982 incident, Saddam ordered the military, Baath Party loyalists and interior department police to arrest, detain and torture men, women and children in the town.

    Although the Dujail case was the first against the former dictator to go to trial, he is also charged with genocide against the Kurds in the northern part of Iraq in the 1980s.

    Bush emphasized the fairness of the trial and the irony that Saddam received protections that he denied the Iraqi people under his rule. “During the Saddam Hussein trial, the court received evidence from 130 witnesses,” Bush said. “The man who once struck fear into the hearts of Iraqis had to listen while free Iraqis recounted the acts of torture and murder that he ordered against their families and against them.”

    “Today,” the president said, “the victims of this regime have received a measure of the justice that many thought would never come.”

    The former dictator will have an automatic right to appeal his sentence. “He will continue to receive the legal rights and due process that he denied to the Iraqi people,” the president said. “Iraq has a lot of work ahead as it builds its society that delivers equal justice and protects all its citizens. Yet history will record today’s judgment as an important achievement on the path to a free and just and unified society.”

    The United States will continue to stand with Iraq’s unity government, Bush said. He praised the courage and determination of the Iraqi security forces.

    The president thanked the men and women of the U.S. military for their sacrifices to free Iraq and defend America. “Without their courage and skill, today’s verdict would not have happened,” he said. “On behalf of the American people, I thank every American who wears the uniform. I thank their families and I thank them for their service and their sacrifice.”

  17. 17

    For the Clueless spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 7:11 pm

    Thanks to President Bush, Republicans, and Democrats this was possible to bring aid to these poor folks. The Social Democrats were receiving aid and money from the Al Qaida to make our government unstable.
    10/9/2006 – ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (AFPN) — A joint team of Airmen and Soldiers are in Pakistan preparing for Operation Promise Keeping, a follow-up mission to aid the people in remote northern parts of the country, which was devastated by an earthquake last year.

    On Oct. 8, 2005, the disaster, which measured a 7.6 on the Richter Scale and centered roughly 60 miles northeast from here, left more than 73,000 people dead, 128,000 injured and 3.4 million homeless.

    Two days later, a coalition of several nations formed Operation Lifeline, providing much-needed relief to the people in dire need of food, water, shelter and medical care until the operation’s conclusion in March 2006.

    Operation Promise Keeping picks up where Lifeline left off, bringing rebuilding supplies to the people as they prepare for the winter months near the Himalaya Mountains. According to a release from the U.S. Embassy here, the United States has pledged $206 million in earthquake reconstruction assistance to Pakistan over the next four years.

    Since Oct. 3, Air Force C-130 Hercules aircraft, assigned to the 455th Air Expeditionary Wing at Bagram Air Base, Afghanistan, have been transporting supplies to Islamabad International Airport.

    Together with Army CH-47 Chinook helicopters, aircrews are bringing the materials, including more than 10,000 sheets of corrugated iron for homes in the Allai and Kaghan valleys.

    Several members of the Chinook air and maintenance crews were here for Operation Lifeline, bringing their efforts for Promise Keeping full circle, according to Army Reserve Warrant Officer John Roberts, a Chinook pilot and commander deployed from Fort Lewis, Wash.

    “We’re back and we’re here to help,” he said. “We’re here to show Pakistanis that America has not abandoned (it) and is still their friend.”

    Last year, the people in earthquake-affected areas came to refer to the Chinook crews as “Angels of Mercy” because of the quick and efficient response they provided.

    “Pakistan is one of the most important partners in the war on terrorism, especially in Operation Enduring Freedom,” said Warrant Officer Roberts.

  18. 18

    RightEqualsStupid spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 7:15 pm

    10/6/2006 – WASHINGTON (AFPN) — Five years ago, America, still stinging from the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, began striking back in the war on terrorism.

    President Bush appeared on national television to inform the American people he had unleashed U.S. military might against the enemy.

    Land-based bombers and Navy strike aircraft from carriers launched Operation Enduring Freedom shortly after 12:30 a.m. Eastern time on Oct. 7, 2001, attacking al Qaeda training camps and Taliban military bases in Afghanistan. In addition, U.S. and British ships and submarines launched about 50 Tomahawk missiles.

    President Bush ordered the air strikes after the Taliban rejected U.S. demands to close terrorist training camps and hand over al Qaeda leaders operating in their midst.

    “None of these demands were met,” he said during his address. “And now, the Taliban will pay a price.”

    The coalition focused its attacks on sites used to recruit and train terrorists and help them communicate, aiming to defeat al Qaeda and the Taliban regime that harbored them and to prevent Afghanistan from ever reestablishing itself as a terrorist sanctuary.

    President Bush warned that the military action there would be just one front in a long, ongoing attack against terrorism.

    “Today, we focus on Afghanistan, but the battle is broader,” he said.

    In a message to the Defense Department later that day, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld emphasized that the war on terrorism isn’t a mission the American people went looking for.

    “Rather, it was thrust upon us,” he said. “We take these actions in self defense. We take them in deliberate response to the acts of war directed against the American people.”

    Five years after coalition forces entered Afghanistan, U.S. officials measure progress in three major ways:

    — Al Qaeda and terrorist safe havens are gone;

    — the Taliban was removed from power; and

    — Afghanistan has a democratic government that sets an example for other countries in the region.

    Last month, President Bush marked the fifth anniversary of the 9/11 terror attacks by noting headway made against terrorists and those who harbor or support them.

    “We helped drive the Taliban from power in Afghanistan,” he said during a Sept. 11, 2006, address to the nation. “We put al Qaeda on the run and killed or captured most of those who planned the Sept. 11 attacks, including the man believed to be the mastermind, Khalid Sheik Mohammed.”

    While Osama bin Laden and other terrorists remain in hiding, President Bush said, the United States’ message to them is clear: “No matter how long it takes, America will find you, and we will bring you to justice.”

    Meanwhile, the United States continues to promote what President Bush calls an equally important aspect of the terror fight: setting conditions that prevent Afghanistan and other nations around the world from serving as safe havens for terrorism. And the best way to do that, the president said, is to promote democracy.

    Afghanistan now has a constitution and a democratically elected president, parliament and provincial councils, voted into power by 8.5 million Afghans. Last week, as President Bush hosted Afghan President Hamid Karzai at the White House, he praised the Afghan leader as solid partner in the war on terrorism whose example is helping stabilize the region.

    As the United States and its coalition partners help bolster this new democracy, they are also helping ensure Afghanistan’s security forces have the capability to defend their new government. The Afghan National Army is now 30,000 strong and the 43,000-member Afghan National Police continue to take shape.

    Twenty-three provincial reconstruction teams operating throughout the country also are helping improve the Afghan people’s quality of life and extending the national government’s reach.

    President Bush acknowledged these and other achievements made in the terrorism war during the 9/11anniversary last month, reiterating the call he made five years ago as he announced the beginning of Operation Enduring Freedom. He reminded the nation that the terror war won’t be fast or easy, and he called on Americans to unite as they face the challenges still ahead.

    “If we do not defeat these enemies now, we will leave our children to face a Middle East overrun by terrorist states and radical dictators armed with nuclear weapons,” he said.

    “Our nation has endured trials, and we face a difficult road ahead,” he said. “Winning this war will require the determined efforts of a unified country. So we must put aside our differences and work together to meet the test that history has given us. We will defeat our enemies; we will protect our people; and we will lead the 21st century into a shining age of human liberty.”

  19. 19

    RightEqualsStupid spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 7:17 pm

    10/25/2006 – WASHINGTON (AFPN) — Winning the war on terrorism in Iraq is critical to American defense, President Bush said today in a White House news conference. Bush spoke about coalition strategy and tactics changes in Iraq.

    “Our security at home depends on ensuring Iraq is an ally in the war on terror and does not become a terrorist haven like Afghanistan under the Taliban,” the president said.

    America’s goals in Iraq are unchanging, but the methods must be flexible, he said.

    “On the military side, our commanders on the ground are constantly adjusting their tactics to stay ahead of our enemies,” Bush said.

    “We’re refining our training strategy for Iraqi security forces so we can help more of those forces take the lead in the fight and provide them better equipment and firepower to be successful.”

    The coalition has increased the number of advisors in the Iraqi ministry of defense and interior to help the Iraqis plan and execute operations, Bush said. And the United States has changed force structure in Iraq as needed to counter enemy activity.

    “Most recently we have moved Iraqi and coalition forces into Baghdad so they can help secure the city and reduce sectarian violence,” he said.

    However, after some initial successes Iraqi and coalition operations to secure Baghdad have encountered greater resistance, he said. “Some of the Iraqi security forces have performed below expectations,” the president said. “Many have performed well and are fighting bravely in some of Baghdad’s toughest neighborhoods. Once again, American troops are performing superbly under difficult conditions. Together with the Iraqis, they have conducted hundreds of missions throughout Baghdad.”

    But military power cannot win the war alone, Bush said, noting the Iraqi government has to take steps to solve problems contributing to the insurgency.

    “In addition to refining our military tactics to defeat the enemy, we are also working to achieve a political solution that brings together Shiia and Sunni and Kurds and other ethnic and religious groups,” Bush said.

    Bush delineated a three-step approach to Iraq. First, coalition officials are working with political and religious leaders across Iraq urging them to take steps to restrain their followers and stop sectarian violence.

    Second, U.S. officials are helping Iraqi leaders to complete work on a national compact to solve the most difficult issues dividing their country. “The new Iraqi government has condemned violence from all quarters and has agreed to a schedule for resolving issues such as dissolving militias and death squads, sharing oil revenues, amending the Iraqi constitution and reforming the de-Baathification process,” the president said.

    Third, the United States is reaching out to Arab states such as Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Jordan and asking them to support the Iraqi government’s efforts to persuade Sunni insurgents to put down their arms and accept national reconciliation.

    Bush called these tasks daunting for any government, but particularly so for a government that has only been in place for just over five months. Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki’s unity government “has to solve a host of problems created by decades of tyrannical rule, and they have to do it in the midst of a raging conflict,” Bush said.

    The United States will continue to press the Iraqis to move quickly, the president said. “We’re making it clear that America’s patience is not unlimited,” he said. “Yet we also understand the difficult challenges Iraq’s leaders face, and we will not put more pressure on the Iraqi government than it can bear.”

    The strategy as Iraq moves forward is to help Iraq’s government grow in strength and assume more control over its country as soon as possible, he said.

    Bush said the American people want to win in Iraq. “They will support the war as long as they see a path to victory,” Bush said. “Americans can have confidence that we will prevail, because thousands of smart, dedicated civilian and military personnel are risking their lives and working around the clock to ensure our success.”

  20. 20

    k lake spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 7:24 pm

    Al-Qaeda
    In the last two decades of the 20th century, along with the globalization of the world economy, and to a lesser extent a world popular culture, came the perception of a new phenomenon: a new organizational dynamic among Jihadists which was not organized along tribal, regional or national lines, but saw them organized internationally under the banner of an international Muslim jihad, conducted by extremists who were otherwise unrelated. Among such organizations, the multi-national presence of Al-Qaeda has become most prominent, allegedly responsible for carrying out the September 11, 2001 attacks in the United States and many other terrorist attacks worldwide. According to some sources, this organization had been (and may still be) headquartered in Afghanistan, but has members and operatives in many countries.

    The argument is put forward that this form of organization allows Al-Qaeda (and analogous groups) to carry out their form of asymmetric warfare (as they see it) more safely, as it prevents an aggrieved nation from launching an overt military attack upon another nation harboring Al-Qaeda members, since a nation can argue that Al-Qaeda might be within its borders but is an independent organization which the government does not support, whether or not the government sympathizes with their cause.

    The counter-argument to this states that Al-Qaeda members and other international resistant groups do not exist in “disembodied space” or in international territory (i.e., the open seas, as pirates were claimed to do), but within the borders of a sovereign state, which is responsible for the capture or expulsion of members of such groups, and failure of a state to do this is tantamount to laying themselves open for aggrieved nations to attack them. Under this argument, the state of Pakistan, which refuses to allow US troops inside its territory, can be seen as a practical case in point.

    However, there is some debate as to whether this qualifies as asymmetric warfare, as Al-Qaeda and other such organizations, which are not sovereign nations, are not legal combatants under the laws of war. They can therefore be more accurately seen as an international non-governmental paramilitary force, not subject to a command structure as a regular military force is, and (being united as an organization purely as a result of their religious beliefs) not affiliated with any specific nation’s interests or doctrine. They could, however, be seen as an entity separate from issues of government and sovereignty, against which a nation could legitimately wage a war.

  21. 21

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 7:27 pm

    k lake are you Kay in Lake Forist Park that calls on KIRO?

  22. 22

    k lake spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 7:28 pm

    k lake are you Kay in Lake Forist Park that calls on KIRO?

    Commentby The Socialist— 11/5/06@ 7:27 pm

    no

  23. 23

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 7:31 pm

    ok

  24. 24

    k lake spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 7:45 pm

    1. This is how the enemies of this nation are receiving moral support from within this country borders.
    Al Qaida recruiting film, and today they are supported by the Socialist Democratic Party. Now bin Laudin thanks you for your support.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....38;search=

  25. 25

    For the Clueless spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 7:55 pm

    Hey that guy posting in 17,19 and 20 is not me! It’s a
    wingnut shill!

    Typical…

  26. 26

    Don Joe spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 7:56 pm

    “1. This is how the enemies of this nation are receiving moral support from within this country borders.”

    And the NRCC’s response is to undermine the very foundations of Democracy?! As one blogger put it, things have gotten pretty bad for Republicans when the most effective tactic they have is to pretend to be Democrats.

    By the way, here’s more on those robocalls.

  27. 27

    Another TJ spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 7:57 pm

    Hey that guy posting in 17,19 and 20 is not me! It’s a
    wingnut shill!

    Probably klake.

  28. 28

    Klake spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 7:58 pm

    I will change my mind. I’ve had enough of Bush. And after all, as a gay man, the GOP is not my friend so I’ll vote Dem now.

  29. 29

    Don Joe spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 7:58 pm

    Clueless 11/5/06@ 7:55 pm,

    I guess it bears repeating: Things are pretty bad for Republicans when their most effective tactic is to pretend that they’re Democrats.

  30. 30

    k lake spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 7:59 pm

    Socialist way of supporting our Troops using left wing propaganda to make their point.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....38;search=

  31. 31

    k lake spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 8:39 pm

    Clueless 11/5/06@ 7:55 pm,

    I guess it bears repeating: Things are pretty bad for Republicans when their most effective tactic is to pretend that they’re Democrats.

    Commentby Don Joe— 11/5/06@ 7:58 pm

    Don I’m a Democrat so that makes you a Socialist Democrat.
    Now bin Laudin thanks you for your support.

  32. 32

    georgetown stew spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 8:57 pm

    NO ONE LIKE A SNITCH!

  33. 33

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 9:03 pm

    GOP Debacle Looms in Governor Races

    As we move into the final day of campaigning, public interest remains focused on Congress, where Democrats appear certain to capture the House and have a 50-50 shot at taking a 1-seat majority in the Senate.

    Getting much less notice is the fact that Republicans are almost certain to suffer heavy losses in tomorrow’s gubernatorial elections as well. And because most presidents come from statehouses, not Congress, this is significant for future presidential elections. In addition, Democratic control of a governorship makes it much harder for GOP legislatures to gerrymander congressional districts in the favor.

    Here’s how it’s looking for the GOP crowd:

    “WASHINGTON (Nov. 3) – Democrats are expected to make significant gains in governors’ races on Tuesday, including wins in several battleground states that could give the party an early edge in the 2008 White House race.

    “Republicans are defending 22 of the 36 governors’ offices up for grabs on Tuesday, including nine where the Republican incumbent is not on the ballot. Democrats must defend 14 governorships but only one without an incumbent.

    “The lopsided political map, and a harsh national climate for Republicans, have Democrats primed to pick up at least the four governorships needed for a national majority and possibly several more. Republicans hold 28 governors’ offices to 22 for Democrats.

    “‘It’s a Democratic year, and that is true for governors races as well,’ said Larry Sabato, a political scientist at the University of Virginia. ‘The Democrats had a great map to start with and they are taking advantage of it.’

    ” … Democrats are favorites in races for five open Republican offices in Ohio, New York, Massachusetts, Colorado and Arkansas.
    Other … battlegrounds include Republican-held Minnesota, Maryland, Idaho, Nevada, Alaska and Rhode Island …

    “‘Statehouses are absolutely key to electing presidents,’ said Penny Lee, executive director of the Democratic Governors’ Association. ‘They let you bring in resources and organize a state in a way you can’t otherwise.’ …

    ” … Tim Pawlenty in Minnesota … ‘is the perfect example of a governor who is really being hurt by the political environment,” said Jennifer Duffy, an analyst with the nonpartisan Cook Political Report. Pawlenty’s lead in polls disappeared in the span of a few weeks even though ‘nothing had happened here. There was no major event in the race, it was just the political environment,’ she said. …

    “A win in Colorado would continue a Democratic surge in the West exemplified by several other popular Democratic governors favored for re-election in Republican-leaning states in the region — Kansas, Oklahoma, Arizona, Wyoming and New Mexico.

    “‘There is a possibility for an unusual looking governors’ map heading into 2008, with a solidly Republican South and a band of blue governors out west from Canada to Mexico,’ Musser said.”

    Quoted under fair use; for full story &/or (c) info see http://tinyurl.com/ybtfea

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: Didja catch that trollfucks? Democrats are gonna win a bunch of governorships in Republican states! Better have an extra cup of joe Tuesday morning, because you’re gonna have a bad fucking day.

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    k lake spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 9:17 pm

    WASHINGTON – Iraqi police detained eight suspected insurgents from a government building in Fallujah, Iraq, today, and coalition forces killed an al Qaeda assassination team in Fallujah on Oct. 31, military officials in Iraq reported.
    Iraqi police officers detained eight Iraqi local nationals, including three of the Fallujah mayor’s personal security officers, for suspected insurgent activity after receiving attacks from a government building today in downtown Fallujah.

    Following a rocket-propelled-grenade attack on the Joint Coordination Center in the heart of the city, Marines from Regimental Combat Team 5 were attacked with small-arms fire from a mosque. The Marines established positive identification of the target, returned fire and commenced to cordon off the area surrounding the mosque. Soon thereafter, Iraqi police officers arrived on the scene and entered the mosque.

    A grenade was subsequently hurled at the Marines from a government building near the mosque, so the Iraqi police, with the Marines in support, gained entry to the structure and uncovered multiple AK-47s, ammunition and magazines.

    The eight local nationals, seven of whom are employed in the government center, are not authorized by the Fallujah government to bear arms and were detained for further questioning.

    In another operation, coalition forces killed an al Qaeda assassination team in Fallujah on Oct. 31. Coalition snipers heard gunshots and quickly responded to the murder of an off-duty Fallujah policeman by gunmen in civilian clothes. The Marines from 1st Battalion, 24th Marines, Regimental Combat Team 5, immediately engaged the armed gunmen and killed two of them. The third gunman was killed as he attempted to flee in a vehicle.

    “We honor the service of the Fallujah policeman, Hamed Mohammed Jassim,” said coalition spokesman Marine Lt. Col. Bryan Salas. “He stood against the murder and intimidation campaign of the terrorists to help bring security and prosperity to his neighbors in Fallujah. Our thoughts and prayers are with his family.”

    Assault rifles and other items were recovered from the gunmen.

  35. 35

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 9:22 pm

    Hey Goldy! It’s 9:20 already! Quit talking about queer evangelists and get on topic! You advertised a “discussion of electoral push” so let’s see the goods!

  36. 36

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 9:26 pm

    About fucking time! This segment is already half over. I’m going to boycott half your advertisers. (The Republican half.)

  37. 37

    Facts Support My Positions spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 9:29 pm

    Compared to the war in Vietnam, the chances U.S. military personnel will be killed in Iraq are significantly lower. With 56,838 deaths over a period of 2,608,650 “person-years of exposure,” the Vietnam “death rate” was 21.8 per 1,000, compared to 3.9 for Iraq. Vietnam was 5.6 times more deadly for deployed troops as Iraq. Reasons cited in the study for the difference are improvements in military medicine, faster evacuation to closer medical care, and more and better body armor. (It is also possible – but not reported in the study – that the nature of the combat in Vietnam was different – and perhaps more lethal. For example, U.S. combat training may now be better, or the enemy may have been more dangerous.)
    The number of deaths compared to the number wounded was also higher in Vietnam; 0.24 in Vietnam; 0.13 in Iraq, presumably for the same reasons the study articulated.
    The death rates for branch of service in Iraq also vary considerably:
    the risk of death is greatest in Iraq for Marines (both active and reserve) at 8.5 per 1,000;
    Army (active and reserve) personnel are experiencing 3.4 deaths per 1,000 deployed;
    Navy personnel are less exposed at a rate of 0.83;
    Air Force personnel are the least exposed at a rate of 0.4.
    The average death rate across all services is 3.9.
    Put another way, the chance of a deployed armed services member dying in Iraq is one out of every 255 per year.

  38. 38

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 9:37 pm

    I want to remind everyone that Reichert is spending your tax dollars to mail campaign literature to 8th District voters.

    A blackout on congressional mailings to constituents has been in effect since June because of the election. But this applies only to “mass mailings” defined as 500 or more pieces. So Reichert has been sending 499-piece mailings promoting his re-electiona to targeted micro-constituencies. 130 so far. That’s nearly 65,000 pieces of campaign literature mailed — at your expense!

    Read the disgusting details in this column by Seattle Times writer David Postman. http://tinyurl.com/ybgflg

  39. 39

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 9:39 pm

    Hmmm … bad link … try this one: http://tinyurl.com/yjcb9s

  40. 40

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 9:41 pm

    And the Seattle Times lauds this guy’s “public service?”

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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 9:46 pm

    Reichert couldn’t catch the nation’s worst serial killer for 20 years. Then he ran a corrupt and mismanaged sheriff’s department. Next, as a congressman, instead of representing his district he voted the way party leaders told him to.

    Reichert’s 30 years of public service are a good reason to fire him, not a good reason to re-elect him!

    How hard is it to figure that out? Apparently too hard for the Seattle Times’ editorial page editors.

  42. 42

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 9:49 pm

    The GOP noise machine, which includes the Seattle Times editorial page, claims Darcy Burner doesn’t have public service experience.

    Sure she does.

    You can’t talk about issues without spending a lot of time learning the issues. That’s public service, whether you’re paid for it, or not. Every voter who educates himself/herself about issues and votes in the nation’s and community’s best interest is a public servant. We don’t have to pay them; they do it because it’s the right thing to do.

    Darcy Burner has invested more time and effort in studying public issues so she can represent the public interest than Dave Reichert has in the last two years. He doesn’t spend any time on issues. He just votes the way party leaders tell him to.

  43. 43

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 9:54 pm

    46

    Let’s not overlook the fact that soldiers are surviving wounds that weren’t survivable in earlier wars. Let’s not forget that in addition to nearly 3,000 deaths, the Iraq war has produced 16,000 severely wounded. Some of these soldiers have suffered truly hideous, life-altering, permanently crippling injuries — loss of multiple limbs, terrible disfigurement, etc. Some will spend the rest of their lives having to be taken care of by others. It’s not just the deaths. The price of Bush’s Iraq folly also includes the terrible, terrible injuries that soldiers are coming home with.

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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 9:56 pm

    6

    “Is there some reason you don’t want to tell me what public services your work in rabbit?”

    I was an attorney working for state government.

  45. 45

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 9:57 pm

    6 (continued)

    I’ve also stated that I served as a judge.

  46. 46

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 9:58 pm

    13

    yes this is roast a Rabbit night on HA lol Commentby The Socialist— 11/5/06@ 6:32 pm

    Your attention is the best form of flattery.

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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 10:01 pm

    Hey Molly — If the GOP steals this election, I’m not moving to Canada … I’m not going anywhere! I’ll stay right here and fight for the liberation of my country from the fascist pigs.

  48. 48

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 10:01 pm

    Liberals must arm!

  49. 49

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 10:02 pm

    Oh thanks for telling me rabbit I was just woundering thank you for your service

    I am just a broken down taxi driver on disibilty now with only an 8 grade edjucation as you can probibly tell from my spelling.

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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 10:03 pm

    14

    I thought political campaigns are exempt from the Do Not Call law?

  51. 51

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 10:06 pm

    19

    No but standing on the side lines will kill a lot more victims over a longer period of time.

    You guys are doing a great job of policing the world. Not! You can’t even police our own streets. 20 years to catch a guy who killed a woman a week … nuff said.

  52. 52

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 10:12 pm

    And Communism isn’t a bad thing it is mostly that it has been run bye totalitarian dictators. That tends to mess up most any system even Democracy

    Communism is suppose to be Democratic and constitutional and I can find the passage in marx were it says so.

    And you have to remember Marx wrote is stuff in 1847 When they were just getting the industrial revolution cranked up. But you can still see most of it to day with the out sorcing of jobs to countries were the capitalist and find slave labors. Actually it is really shocking that most of what marks wrote he could be talking about today

  53. 53

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 10:12 pm

    38

    “I’m a Democrat” Commentby k lake— 11/5/06@ 8:39 pm

    Pretending to be Democrats has gotten very popular among wingnuts but most of them have enough brains to cover their tracks.

  54. 54

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 10:13 pm

    I sure am sorry I voted for Goldwater.

  55. 55

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 10:14 pm

    Please forgive me — I’m going to spend the rest of my life trying to make up for it.

  56. 56

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 10:14 pm

    And Goldwater had personal integrity compared to the current bunch.

  57. 57

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 10:17 pm

    60

    Oh thanks for telling me rabbit I was just woundering thank you for your service

    I am just a broken down taxi driver on disibilty now with only an 8 grade edjucation as you can probibly tell from my spelling.

    Commentby The Socialist— 11/5/06@ 10:02 pm

    You’re welcome. I tip taxi drivers. I also vote a 100% Democratic ticket so their employers can’t steal the tips.

  58. 58

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 10:18 pm

    For example, after breaking out of the Bunny Meadows Concentration Camp in Redmond last spring by gnawing through the rebar-reinforced concrete floor of my cell, I took a taxi back to Green Lake Park and gave the crippled driver a big wet sloppy kiss on the cheek! … was that YOU socialist?

  59. 59

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 10:19 pm

    Wow! This thread is already up to 60 posts! That’s more than the pathetic little competing blog gets in a month.

  60. 60

    Marcy, I mean Darcy spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 10:19 pm

    Roger – thanks for the ringing endorsements of my lameass public service comments! I haven’t done a darn thing in my community around here that matters. Heck, I don’t even vote regularly. I laugh when my endorsers repeat my outright lie that I have experience in state government!

    But thanks – now I have the perfect spin on it all. I read a lot! Actually, I don’t, I have democrat managers who tell me what to say, but the silly voters don’t know that!

    Vote for Marcy, I mean Darcy, because I read the newspaper!

  61. 61

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 10:21 pm

    Rabbit do you know what an Israeli cabot’s the little socialist communes they have over there. That is probably the best example of what communism should look like

    Or Countries like holland

  62. 62

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 10:26 pm

    That is the one good thing about voting bye mail is that you never miss a vote. when ever there is a vote it just shows up in the mail . It is great

    I love voting bye mail because I have worked night for years so it was really hard for me to get to the poles

  63. 63

    Janet S spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 10:28 pm

    Socialist – the Dutch experiment is such a success that the islam radicals are able to live on the dole and plot how to kill those they disagree with. Great Britain has the same problem. Those bombers were all getting public assistance. And France? There are entire sections of the country that the French police cannot enter. But I am sure their welfare checks are delivered on time!

    What a great system! Import terrorists, and pay them to sit in a mosque all day and listen to rantings of murderous imams!

  64. 64

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 10:34 pm

    Janet you such a stupid whore your not even worth responding to

    I hope one of these days you have to live on wealfair and go threw all the crap you have to go threw to get some help so you and your kids are not sitting on the corner in pioner square pan hadling and sleeping in the womans mission. you filthy selfish blow hole.

  65. 65

    harry poon spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 10:34 pm

    re 74: Not to mention the free cheese and purple cadillacs while the hardworking French taxpayer —what do they get!!! —– except an opportunity to pay all these welfare Sheiks and Sheikeses while they dine on free brie and drive around in purple American Cadilllacs yelling , “Yo, Baby!!!” at each other all day and, and , and , AARRRGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!! My head is exploding!!!!!!!

  66. 66

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 10:35 pm

    71

    Is that you, ProudAss?

  67. 67

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 10:35 pm

    71 (continued)

    The real Darcy hugged me. How about if you kiss my ass.

  68. 68

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 10:37 pm

    74

    So Janet Shill’s new line is that all welfare recipients are terrorists?

    That makes every corporation in America a “terrorist” because they’re all on the public dole.

  69. 69

    skagit spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 10:38 pm

    Skagit-

    My old blog is shut down, and was snatched up by some Korean guy who shows video of lions and tigers. Goldy’s link is to my Myspace page.

    Commentby Will— 11/5/06@ 6:40 pm

    Well, there’s not a lion or tiger playing there right now! (laughing here)

  70. 70

    skagit spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 10:40 pm

    I originally got your from blatherwatch . . . he’s still linking the old site. You might call him about that . . . :)

  71. 71

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 10:41 pm

    Too many giggly drunks on Goldy’s show tonight. Liberals need to project an image of thoughtful sobriety.

  72. 72

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 10:42 pm

    Of course, it’s all an act, but the one wingnut listening to the show — he’s the BIAW-paid monitor with the tape recorder — is too stupid to realize that.

  73. 73

    harry poon spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 10:43 pm

    Re 72: You can find out more about the Israeli Cabot’s in a book by Henry Kibbutz Lodgepole. It’s great. It’s called,”Planting a Lodgepole in the Israeli Cabots: They’re short on wood but not on Lumber”.

  74. 74

    skagit spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 10:44 pm

    Socialist – the Dutch experiment is such a success that the islam radicals are able to live on the dole and plot how to kill those they disagree with. Great Britain has the same problem. Those bombers were all getting public assistance. And France? There are entire sections of the country that the French police cannot enter. But I am sure their welfare checks are delivered on time!

    What a great system! Import terrorists, and pay them to sit in a mosque all day and listen to rantings of murderous imams!

    Commentby Janet S— 11/5/06@ 10:28 pm

    I’ll bet you go to church too. You are one rich bitch. How many illegals did you underpay today?

  75. 75

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 10:46 pm

    Liberals are smarter than wingnuts even when they’re stumbling drunk.

  76. 76

    skagit spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 10:46 pm

    Will, please don’t get offended . . . cause I like Molly’s site. But, again, it was an hour of Molly laughing, you talking a little bit, Carl talking a little bit more, and Goldy going on and on and on and on and on . . . pleeeeeeeese! I finally turned it off.

  77. 77

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 10:48 pm

    cabots? do you mean the kibbutzim?

  78. 78

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 10:51 pm

    Only 2 more days until the wingnut paranoics on Sucky Politics starting complaining that Darcy Burner stole the election by disenfranchising military voters. Enjoy the peaceful and quiet while you can.

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    Janet S spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 11:02 pm

    The welfare states of Europe are attracting lazy middle easterners. They don’t have to work. Which is good, because the western European countries aren’t creating many new jobs in the last decade or so. The immigrants want a better life than they had. But, with no jobs and no opportunties, and a free ride, they are open to the rantings of others who don’t want to live in the Middle East. Funny how the imams call their minions to murder westerners, but don’t just move back to their paradise.

    Have you noticed that the same situation isn’t happening here? The Middle easterners who have moved here have been very successful. Maybe it is because they came here for the working opportunties, not to get on the dole.

  80. 80

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 11:03 pm

    80

    This country is full of people who are on the dole. I’ve never seen a Republican work. The whole fucking point of being a Republican is to live off other people’s work.

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    Marcy, I mean Darcy spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 11:06 pm

    Roger – thanks for telling that Janet person off. You really helped me make my case! For a minute there, I thought you might actually try to defend my resume. I guess that won’t happen, since none of it is true anyway.

    Wow – only two more days until I can get on to my next project! Campaigning has taken way too much effort. Kind of like working at Msft. Too bad my project was cut there, and I had to play at law school for a year. This campaign gig was fun at first, but now I’m bored.

  82. 82

    Marcy, I mean Darcy spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 11:09 pm

    Gosh Roger, it is sad view from your trailer park. You are such an angry old goat. I mean rabbit.

  83. 83

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 11:15 pm

    82, 83

    I liked to have my cute cottontail licked by wingnut imposters! For a good time, call 1-800-LICK-ROG and suck rabbit farts. Ah that feels good … more … more …

  84. 84

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 11:20 pm

    83

    Does this http://tinyurl.com/ygplhw look like a “trailer park?” Notice the expansive lawns, luxuriant trees, water views … sorry sweetcheeks but my neighborhood is out of your range. You couldn’t buy digs like mine for under $4 million in today’s market.

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    Truth2006 spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 11:24 pm

    “Liberals are smarter than wingnuts even when they’re stumbling drunk.”

    John Kerry got worse grades than George Bush and Bush was drunk mos t of the time!

  86. 86

    Truth2006 spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 11:28 pm

    Is anyone really surprised anymore at the depths the Democrats will go to help the terrorists? First they want them to have “OJ” trials and now we learn that Democrats have been leaking national intelligence secrets.

    But then again, given that their party officials are crooks that violate campaign laws , trade crack cocaine for fraudulent votes and buy off voters to steal elections.

    Is there no depth to which they will not sink???

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    skagit spews:

    Sunday, 11/5/06 at 11:48 pm

    Boy, are you ever projecting!

  88. 88

    Don Joe spews:

    Monday, 11/6/06 at 12:00 am

    ProudAss, leave it up to you to post a link to a news story that doesn’t exist. Meanwhile, if you really want to see the depths to which Republicans will stoop, see the information about robocalls that I posted above.

    As for Darcy’s resume, the only things needing correcting are the lies you’ve spread. Why can’t you, for once, actually try to win an election by being honest? Is it against your nature? Do you simply abhor the truth?

    Janet S, your naievete never ceases to amaze me. First, I can show you studies done by the National Bureau of Economic Research that show there is no correlation, either accross time or accross countries, between social unemployment protection and levels of unemployment. You might find your belief to be comforting in some perverse sort of way, but the data simply doesn’t support it. (In particular, I’d suggest you take a look at Oiver Blanchard’s work–provided you can even understand what he’s saying.)

    Secondly, the people most likely to become influenced by Islamist rhetoric aren’t even in the labor force. They’re students. You exhibit a similar failure to grasp the rational nature of employment statistics as does the welching redneck.

    Please, leave the policy discussions to people who actually know what they’re talking about, because all you have to offer is fantasy.

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    John Barelli spews:

    Monday, 11/6/06 at 12:27 am

    Commentby Truth2006— 11/5/06@ 11:28 pm

    On an earlier thread, I had written a nice, long, carefully thought out answer to some of your rantings. Then I deleted it, as most of the folks here already know most of the information, and you aren’t really looking for an answer, you’re just another anonymous cowardly troll.

    So, just for you, here’s a short version of the Truth in 2006.

    Come Tuesday, you’re going to be losing a bunch of seats in the House of Representatives. Nothing Diebold or the folks sending out threatening mailings to Democrats or the people sending fake bot calls can do will change that.

    Come January, at least one of the Houses of Congress will be controlled by Democrats. Nancy Pelosi will probably be our choice for Speaker.

    Doc Hastings won’t be able to stop the ethics investigations of Republicans any more. President Bush will not be able to erode any more of our Constitutional rights through his rubber-stamp Congress.

    There’s even a chance that we’ll take the Senate, and if not, then at least Vice President Cheney will find his days to be much busier, casting all those tie-breaking votes, assuming that the remaining Republicans don’t decide that they’re fed up with the direction folks like you have taken their party.

    And you can go back to listening to Rush, saying “dittos, dittos” to everything that drug-addled reprobate says, while complaining about the fact that you have no voice. You can complain about all those “evil Democrats” and their “RINO” supporters to your heart’s content.

    I hope you enjoy it. (I know that I certainly will.)

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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 11/6/06 at 12:37 am

    89

    “Democrats have been leaking national intelligence secrets.”

    Do you mean this?

    “Sorry, the page you requested was not found.
    The story or page you were trying to access may have expired.
    If you are having trouble locating a destination on Yahoo! News, try visiting the Yahoo! News home page or browse through the News site index. Also, you may find what you’re looking for if you try searching below.”

    Or are you referring to the Bush administration fuckups who posted Iraqi documents on the internet that tell terrorists how to assemble a nuclear bomb?

  91. 91

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 11/6/06 at 12:42 am

    82

    Well, John, you know what they are going to do on Wednesday. They’re going to say Democrats stole the House by not counting military votes.

    BTW, according to a story in Fortune Magazine, Diebold is taking their name off the voting machines they manufacture and are fixing to get out of the voting machine business. It’s not profitable, and the controversies are dragging down their company’s brand name.

    That’s after they fired 5 of the 7 managers who had been running that business segment — they also fired their CEO, the one who infamously promised to “deliver Ohio” for Bush.

    Don’t you find it interesting that even Diebold doesn’t want to be associated with Diebold voting machines?

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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 11/6/06 at 12:43 am

    Over there at Diebold headquarters they’re probably thinking, “Our company is 120 years old and for the rest of eternity we’re going to be blamed for putting this idiot in the White House!”

  93. 93

    John Barelli spews:

    Monday, 11/6/06 at 1:01 am

    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 11/6/06@ 12:42 am

    Assuming that Rush can manage to stir himself from his oxycontin stupor, he’ll probably be making noises like that.

    Of course, a lot of those military votes may be coming from National Guard troops on their second (or third) trip to Iraq, so it may well be the Republicans that want to avoid counting military votes.

    New motto for the National Guard and Reserves: “One weekend a month my ASS!”

    And yes, I do find it interesting that Diebold wants out of the voting machine business.

    Oh, and Roger. I can see that there are some advantages to being a rabbit. ( http://tinyurl.com/yyulut ) Hope you’re not too crowded down in that hutch.

    Anyway, it’s late, and I need my beauty sleep. G’night, all.

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    Mike Webb SUUUUUCKS spews:

    Monday, 11/6/06 at 6:47 am

    Why is moonbattism against all that is good.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....=rss_world

    “With a potentially historic U.S. midterm election on Tuesday and the war in Iraq a major issue at the polls, many soldiers said the United States should not abandon its effort here. Such a move, enlisted soldiers and officers said, would set Iraq on a path to civil war, give new life to the insurgency and create the possibility of a failed state after nearly four years of fighting to implant democracy.

    “Take us out of that vacuum — and it’s on the edge now — and boom, it would become a free-for-all,” said Lt. Col. Mark Suich, who commands the 1st Squadron, 89th Cavalry Regiment just south of Baghdad. “It would be a raw contention for power. That would be the bloodiest piece of this war.”

    The soldiers declined to discuss the political jousting back home, but they expressed support for the Bush administration’s approach to the war, which they described as sticking with a tumultuous situation to give Iraq a chance to stand on its own.”

    Being moonbat is a mental disorder!

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    Mike Webb SUUUUUCKS spews:

    Monday, 11/6/06 at 6:51 am

    This says it all:

    “I am Democrat – I have no clue about islamofascism. When shown the thoughts of islamofascists in writing, I bury my head in the sand. Nancy Pelosi is right – the islamofascists will stop. They are wrong. When I say I support cut and run, I don’t understand why we just can’t get along. When I say I support cut and run it doesn’t leave Israel in real danger. Why should I care about Israel? I am Democrat. That’s the job for neocon losers. I only care about getting into your pocketbook. I like taxes. All kinds of taxes. I want to be like many European socialist states. I really like France. Those muslim riots are great stories. I care less about what happens overseas. Yes, I am careless! I care less about religion. Hitler was right about religion. Karl Marx was right about religion. That’s why I am Democrat, I hate religion. I have the MSM in my pocket.”

    “Finally, my actions always are louder than my words.” Commentby Democrats Rule— 11/4/06@ 8:19 am

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    Mike Webb SUUUUUCKS spews:

    Monday, 11/6/06 at 6:53 am

    Now we see how the troops think, it’s worth repeating the truth on HorsesAss!

    #

    To Roger Rabbit and his friends, there are only two worlds left: terrorist free or terrorist controlled. Apparently are for the latter. Why? Below is an article with real names, not one with anonymous entries from unnamed sources!

    “Terrorists love Democrats: “By Aaron Klein
    © 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

    JERUSALEM – Everybody has an opinion about next Tuesday’s midterm congressional election in the U.S. – including senior terrorist leaders interviewed by WND who say they hope Americans sweep the Democrats into power because of the party’s position on withdrawing from Iraq, a move, as they see it, that ensures victory for the worldwide Islamic resistance.

    The terrorists told WorldNetDaily an electoral win for the Democrats would prove to them Americans are “tired.”

    They rejected statements from some prominent Democrats in the U.S. that a withdrawal from Iraq would end the insurgency, explaining an evacuation would prove resistance works and would compel jihadists to continue fighting until America is destroyed. Of course, donk and islamofascists think alike!

    They said a withdrawal would also embolden their own terror groups to enhance “resistance” against Israel.

    “Of course Americans should vote Democrat,” Jihad Jaara, a senior member of the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades terror group and the infamous leader of the 2002 siege of Bethlehem’s Church of the Nativity, told WND.

    “This is why American Muslims will support the Democrats, because there is an atmosphere in America that encourages those who want to withdraw from Iraq. It is time that the American people support those who want to take them out of this Iraqi mud,” said Jaara, speaking to WND from exile in Ireland, where he was sent as part of an internationally brokered deal that ended the church siege.

    Jaara was the chief in Bethlehem of the Brigades, the declared “military wing” of Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas’ Fatah party.

    Together with the Islamic Jihad terror group, the Brigades has taken responsibility for every suicide bombing inside Israel the past two years, including an attack in Tel Aviv in April that killed American teenager Daniel Wultz and nine Israelis.

    Muhammad Saadi, a senior leader of Islamic Jihad in the northern West Bank town of Jenin, said the Democrats’ talk of withdrawal from Iraq makes him feel “proud.”

    “As Arabs and Muslims we feel proud of this talk,” he told WND. “Very proud from the great successes of the Iraqi resistance. This success that brought the big superpower of the world to discuss a possible withdrawal.”

    Abu Abdullah, a leader of Hamas’ military wing in the Gaza Strip, said the policy of withdrawal “proves the strategy of the resistance is the right strategy against the occupation.”

    “We warned the Americans that this will be their end in Iraq,” said Abu Abdullah, considered one of the most important operational members of Hamas’ Izzedine al-Qassam Martyrs Brigades, Hamas’ declared “resistance” department. “They did not succeed in stealing Iraq’s oil, at least not at a level that covers their huge expenses. They did not bring stability. Their agents in the [Iraqi] regime seem to have no chance to survive if the Americans withdraw.”

    Abu Ayman, an Islamic Jihad leader in Jenin, said he is “emboldened” by those in America who compare the war in Iraq to Vietnam.

    “[The mujahedeen fighters] brought the Americans to speak for the first time seriously and sincerely that Iraq is becoming a new Vietnam and that they should fix a schedule for their withdrawal from Iraq,” boasted Abu Ayman.

    The terror leaders spoke as the debate regarding the future of America’s war in Iraq has perhaps become the central theme of midterm elections, with most Democrats urging a timetable for withdrawal and Republicans mostly advocating staying the course in Iraq.

    President Bush has even said he would send more troops if Gen. George Casey, the top U.S. commander in Baghdad, said they are needed to stabilize the region

    The debate became especially poignant following remarks by Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., the 2004 presidential candidate who voted in support of the war in Iraq. Earlier this week he intimated American troops are uneducated, and it is the uneducated who “get stuck in Iraq.”

    Kerry, under intense pressure from fellow Democrats, now says his remarks were a “botched joke.”

    Terror leaders reject Nancy Pelosi’s comments on Iraqi insurgency

    Many Democratic politicians and some from the Republican Party have stated a withdrawal from Iraq would end the insurgency there.

    In a recent interview with CBS’s “60 Minutes,” House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, stated, “The jihadists (are) in Iraq. But that doesn’t mean we stay there. They’ll stay there as long as we’re there.”

    Pelosi would become House speaker if the Democrats win the majority of seats in next week’s elections.

    WND read Pelosi’s remarks to the terror leaders, who unanimously rejected her contention an American withdrawal would end the insurgency.

    Islamic Jihad’s Saadi, laughing, stated, “There is no chance that the resistance will stop.” – Moonbats how come the CNNs of the world could not find these Muslims? Or I think they didn’t want to show America the real enemy. They were scooped!

    He said an American withdrawal from Iraq would “prove the resistance is the most important tool and that this tool works. The victory of the Iraqi revolution will mark an important step in the history of the region and in the attitude regarding the United States.”

    Jihad Jaara said an American withdrawal would “mark the beginning of the collapse of this tyrant empire (America).”

    “Therefore, a victory in Iraq would be a greater defeat for America than in Vietnam.”

    Jaara said vacating Iraq would also “reinforce Palestinian resistance organizations, especially from the moral point of view. But we also learn from these (insurgency) movements militarily. We look and learn from them.”

    Hamas’ Abu Abdullah argued a withdrawal from Iraq would “convince those among the Palestinians who still have doubts in the efficiency of the resistance.” Did you say cut and run emboldens their resistance?

    “The victory of the resistance in Iraq would prove once more that when the will and the faith are applied victory is not only a slogan. We saw that in Lebanon (during Israel’s confrontation against Hezbollah there in July and August); we saw it in Gaza (after Israel withdrew from the territory last summer) and we will see it everywhere there is occupation,” Abdullah said.

    While the terror leaders each independently urged American citizens to vote for Democratic candidates, not all believed the Democrats would actually carry out a withdrawal from Iraq.

    Saadi stated, “Unfortunately I think those who are speaking about a withdrawal will not do so when they are in power and these promises will remain electoral slogans. It is not enough to withdraw from Iraq. They must withdraw from Afghanistan and from every Arab and Muslim land they occupy or have bases.”

    He called both Democrats and Republicans “agents of the Zionist lobby in the U.S.”

    Abu Abdullah commented once Democrats are in power “the question is whether such a courageous leadership can [withdraw]. I am afraid that even after the American people will elect those who promise to leave Iraq, the U.S. will not do so. I tell the American people vote for withdrawal. Abandon Israel if you want to save America. Now will this Happen? I do not believe it.”

    Still Jihad Jaara said the alternative is better than Bush’s party.

    “Bush is a sick person, an alcoholic person that has no control of what is going on around him. He calls to send more troops but will very soon get to the conviction that the violence and terror that his war machine is using in Iraq will never impose policies and political regimes in the Arab world.” – Now where did he hear that except from the fringe moonbats!

    Commentby Mike Webb Sucks— 11/4/06@ 8:02 am
    #

    More thoughts for you Roger Rabbit:

    Democrats: ‘No comment’
    on terrorists’ endorsement
    DNC, Clinton, Pelosi, Kennedy decline
    to discuss jihadists’ vote of confidence

    ——————————————————————————–
    Posted: November 3, 2006
    5:00 p.m. Eastern

    By Bob Unruh
    © 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

    National leaders in the Democratic Party, including Howard Dean’s Democratic National Committee, potential House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, possible presidential candidate Hillary Clinton and longtime party stalwart Ted Kennedy don’t want to talk with WorldNetDaily about an endorsement their party has received.

    The endorsement came via a WND article by Jerusalem bureau chief Aaron Klein, who interviewed leaders of several prominent Mideast terrorist organizations, including Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades and Islamic Jihad.

    “Of course Americans should vote Democrat,” Jihad Jaara, a senior member of the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades terror group, and infamous leader of the 2002 siege of Bethlehem’s Church of the Nativity, told WND.

    “This is why American Muslims will support the Democrats, because there is an atmosphere in America that encourages those who want to withdraw from Iraq. It is time that the American people support those who want to take them out of this Iraqi mud,” said Jaara, speaking to WND from exile in Ireland, where he was sent as part of an internationally brokered deal that ended the church siege.

    Jaara and others told WND that they believe if the Democrats come into power because of the party’s position on withdrawing from Iraq, that ensures victory for the worldwide Islamic resistance.

    Together with the Islamic Jihad terror group, the Brigades has taken responsibility for every suicide bombing inside Israel the past two years, including an attack in Tel Aviv in April that killed American teenager Daniel Wultz and nine Israelis.

    Muhammad Saadi, a senior leader of Islamic Jihad in the northern West Bank town of Jenin, said the Democrats’ talk of withdrawal from Iraq makes him feel “proud.”

    “As Arabs and Muslims we feel proud of this talk,” he told WND. “Very proud from the great successes of the Iraqi resistance. This success that brought the big superpower of the world to discuss a possible withdrawal.”

    But WND was unable to get a single comment from dozens of telephone calls made over two days and messages left with various leaders’ offices and press secretaries.

    “I’ll see what we can do,” was the best response WND obtained when asking for a comment on the endorsement, and that came from Deputy Press Secretary Andrew Hammill in Pelosi’s office. It came on the third call to that office.

    The Democratic National Committee was approached at least six times, and multiple messages were deposited on a voice mail system handled by the courteous Rosemary, who said, “We’re extremely busy,” but there was no response, even after one spokesman in Sen. Barack Obama’s officer referred WND to the DNC because such a question would be in “Chairman Dean’s” territory.

    The Democratic Leadership Council’s response to multiple phone calls was similar, a promise to call back later.

    At least three messages left with Sen. Clinton’s office went unreturned after a receptionist forwarded the calls to an answering machine, which informed WND that, “No one is available to take your call at this time.”

    Calls to Sen. Kennedy’s office actually reached a live person, who listened to the request and promised, “If we’re able to we’ll shoot you something. We can’t promise.”

    Colorado Sen. Ken Salazar’s office generated a merry-go-round of telephone numbers. A call to his Washington office generated a referral to a Denver office, which generated a referral to a press office, which generated a referral to a cell phone. When a spokesman answered that number, the caller was referred back to the press office, which had an answering machine attached to the line. Leave a message.

    A call to Sen. Harry Reid also allowed the caller to leave a message.

    On the Republican side, Sen. Tom Tancredo, of Colorado, said those Mideast leaders are right – in one way.

    He told WND that the assessment by terrorists who suggested U.S. voters choose the Democrats on Tuesday because they believe an expected removal of U.S. troops from the Mideast would hand their factions victory is hard to dispute.

    “I guess the conclusion to which anyone could come … maybe they recognize that both the general nature of the Democratic Party and the people who are at its head are folks that would rather cut and run than stand their ground on an issue of this nature,” he said.

    “They’re right. I also worry about a lot of things, the way the war has been prosecuted. But beyond Iraq, here’s what I believe. I believe that there are more Republicans than Democrats that understand we are in a clash of civilizations.

    “In fact the idea that Western civilization has advantages over other civilizations, that is not a concept that most Democrats would buy into and I think the radical Islamic groups recognize that,” he said.

    The president’s recent statements also have given those factions reason to hope for better results under a Democrat Party leadership than the existing decision-makers.

    “Our goal in Iraq is victory,” Bush said during a campaign stop this week. “Victory in Iraq will come when that young democracy can sustain itself, and govern itself, and defend itself, and be a strong ally in the war against terrorists.

    “The fighting in Iraq is tough, and I understand it’s tough, and you know it’s tough, and so does the enemy. They have no conscience. They kill innocent men, women and children. They film the atrocities, they broadcast them for the world to see. They offer no hopeful vision. The only thing they know is death and destruction.

    “But they hope these violent images will cause us to lose our nerve. They make a big mistake. They do not understand the true strength of the United States. We don’t run in the face of thugs and assassins, we’ll defend ourselves,” he said.

    Of course Goldie is a no show on this. This blows apart any further consideration who supports cut and run and who is supportive of cut and run!

    Commentby Mike Webb Sucks— 11/4/06@ 8:06 am
    #

    Next for your review Roger Rabbit. This is the real world. Something you and your furballettes do not live in:

    “ELECTION 2006
    Lawmaker: Terrorists
    right about Democrats
    GOP congressman reacts to militants’
    endorsement of ‘party of cut-and-run’

    ——————————————————————————–
    Posted: November 3, 2006
    12:41 p.m. Eastern

    © 2006 WorldNetDaily.com Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo.

    Leaders of Mideast terrorist organizations such as the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades and Islamic Jihad are right – in one way, according to Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo.

    Terrorists interviewed by WorldNetDaily suggested Americans should vote for Democrats Tuesday, because the party’s plan to remove U.S. troops from the Mideast would hand their factions victory.

    Tancredo today told WND the assessment is hard to dispute.

    “I guess the conclusion to which anyone could come … maybe they recognize that both the general nature of the Democratic Party and the people who are at its head are folks that would rather cut and run than stand their ground on an issue of this nature,” he said.

    “They’re right. I also worry about a lot of things, the way the war has been prosecuted. But beyond Iraq, here’s what I believe. I believe that there are more Republicans than Democrats that understand we are in a clash of civilizations.

    “In fact the idea that Western civilization has advantages over other civilizations, that is not a concept that most Democrats would buy into, and I think the radical Islamic groups recognize that,” he said.

    Multiple messages left over the course of two days seeking comment from the Democratic National Committee, the Democratic Leadership Council, the offices of Sens. Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton and others were not returned to WND.

    The Republican National Committee also did not return a message asking for comment.

    The president’s recent statements also have given the terrorists reason to hope for better results should the Democrat Party leadership be in power rather than the existing decision-makers.

    “The fighting in Iraq is tough, and I understand it’s tough, and you know it’s tough, and so does the enemy. They have no conscience. They kill innocent men, women and children. They film the atrocities, they broadcast them for the world to see. They offer no hopeful vision. The only thing they know is death and destruction,” Bush said during a recent campaign stop.

    “Our goal in Iraq is victory,” Bush said. “Victory in Iraq will come when that young democracy can sustain itself, and govern itself, and defend itself, and be a strong ally in the war against terrorists.

    “But they hope these violent images will cause us to lose our nerve. They make a big mistake. They do not understand the true strength of the United States. We don’t run in the face of thugs and assassins, we’ll defend ourselves,” he said.

    His comments were on the same subject being discussed by those terrorist leaders this week.

    “Of course Americans should vote Democrat,” Jihad Jaara, a senior member of the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades terror group, and infamous leader of the 2002 siege of Bethlehem’s Church of the Nativity, told WND.

    “This is why American Muslims will support the Democrats, because there is an atmosphere in America that encourages those who want to withdraw from Iraq. It is time that the American people support those who want to take them out of this Iraqi mud,” said Jaara, speaking to WND from exile in Ireland, where he was sent as part of an internationally brokered deal that ended the church siege.

    Jaara and others told WND that they believe if the Democrats come into power because of the party’s position on withdrawing from Iraq, that ensures victory for the worldwide Islamic resistance.

    They rejected statements from some prominent Democrats in the U.S. that a withdrawal from Iraq would end the insurgency, explaining an evacuation would prove resistance works and would compel jihadists to continue fighting until America is destroyed.

    They said a withdrawal would also embolden their own terror groups to enhance “resistance” against Israel.

    Jaara was the chief in Bethlehem of the Brigades, the declared “military wing” of Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas’ Fatah party.

    Together with the Islamic Jihad terror group, the Brigades has taken responsibility for every suicide bombing inside Israel the past two years, including an attack in Tel Aviv in April that killed American teenager Daniel Wultz and nine Israelis.

    Muhammad Saadi, a senior leader of Islamic Jihad in the northern West Bank town of Jenin, said the Democrats’ talk of withdrawal from Iraq makes him feel “proud.”

    “As Arabs and Muslims we feel proud of this talk,” he told WND. “Very proud from the great successes of the Iraqi resistance. This success that brought the big superpower of the world to discuss a possible withdrawal.”

    Bush’s comments came on a campaign swing through southern states, where he was stumping for Republican candidates in a mid-term election that could leave either Republicans or Democrats in control of Congress, and terrorists a focal point of many debates.

    “We will defeat them,” he promised. “We’ll defeat them because our commanders on the ground have all the flexibility necessary to make sure that we constantly stay ahead of the enemy. We’ll defeat them because we got a fantastic United States military,” he said.

    “We will succeed in Iraq because the Iraqis want to live in a peaceful society. Twelve million – nearly 12 million defied car-bombers and assassins and terrorists and went to vote. … And I believe strongly that they’ll become a government of the people, and by the people, and for the people.

    “As a matter of fact, I believe the only way we cannot succeed is if we leave before the job is done,” he said.

    Bush said Democrats have talked a lot about different plans to deal with terrorism.

    “They’ve come up with a lot of creative ways to describe leaving Iraq before the job is done. Sometimes they say, ‘immediate redeployment.’ Sometimes they say they wouldn’t spend another dime on our troops. Sometimes they say the idea that we’re going to win this war is an idea that unfortunately is just plain wrong. However they put it, the Democrat approach in Iraq comes down to this: the terrorists win and America loses,” he said.

    But in a statement on their website, the Democrats said, “We will protect Americans at home and lead the world by telling the truth to our troops, our citizens and our allies. We believe in a strong national defense that is both tough and smart, recognizing that homeland security begins with hometown security.”

    “Democrats have a plan that is comprehensive – from repairing our military, to winning the war on terror, to protecting our homeland security, to ensuring success in Iraq and freeing America of its dependence on foreign oil – and it will finally prepare America for the security needs of the 21st Century. And we honor the sacrifices our troops, their families and veterans by making sure we take care of them when they come home,” the statement continued.

    A new New York Times poll also indicated that Americans believe the U.S. will pursue a “quicker exit from Iraq” should the Democrats be in control. The survey said Americans believe the Democrats “have coalesced around a general position of finding a way to reduce or end American involvement in Iraq” but it also noted “there is substantial disagreement among Democratic Congressional leaders and candidates about exactly how to accomplish that.”

    “Nearly 75 percent of respondents, including 67 percent of Republicans and 92 percent of Democrats, said they expected that Americans (sic) troops would be taken out of Iraq more swiftly under a Democratic-led Congress.”

    The poll said 41 percent of respondents said they expected that troop levels would decrease if Democrats won control, while 40 percent said the party would seek to remove all troops. Forty-one percent said that they expected troop levels to remain the same if Republicans won, while 29 percent said they thought the United States would send more troops if the Republicans continued to control Congress.

    Vice President Dick Cheney has reinforced Bush’s plans:

    “Time and time again, we’re seeing examples of Democratic Party leaders apparently having lost their perspective concerning the nature of the enemy we face, and the need to wage this fight aggressively,” he said in a campaign stop this week. “No sharper example can be found than the Democratic Party chairman himself, Howard Dean, who said the capture of Saddam Hussein didn’t make America any safer.”

    Abu Abdullah, a leader of Hamas’ military wing in the Gaza Strip, told WND the policy of withdrawal “proves the strategy of the resistance is the right strategy against the occupation.”

    “We warned the Americans that this will be their end in Iraq,” said Abu Abdullah, considered one of the most important operational members of Hamas’ Izzedine al-Qassam Martyrs Brigades, Hamas’ declared “resistance” department. “They did not succeed in stealing Iraq’s oil, at least not at a level that covers their huge expenses. They did not bring stability. Their agents in the [Iraqi] regime seem to have no chance to survive if the Americans withdraw.”

    Abu Ayman, an Islamic Jihad leader in Jenin, said he is “emboldened” by those in America who compare the war in Iraq to Vietnam.

    “[The mujahedeen fighters] brought the Americans to speak for the first time seriously and sincerely that Iraq is becoming a new Vietnam and that they should fix a schedule for their withdrawal from Iraq,” boasted Abu Ayman.

    Many Democratic politicians and some from the Republican Party have stated a withdrawal from Iraq would end the insurgency there.

    In a recent interview with CBS’s “60 Minutes,” House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, stated, “The jihadists (are) in Iraq. But that doesn’t mean we stay there. They’ll stay there as long as we’re there.”

    Pelosi would become House speaker if the Democrats win the majority of seats in next week’s elections.

    WND read Pelosi’s remarks to the terror leaders, who unanimously rejected her contention an American withdrawal would end the insurgency.

    Islamic Jihad’s Saadi, laughing, stated, “There is no chance that the resistance will stop.”

    He said an American withdrawal from Iraq would “prove the resistance is the most important tool and that this tool works. The victory of the Iraqi revolution will mark an important step in the history of the region and in the attitude regarding the United States.”

    I guess John Murtha is right? Wrong!

    Commentby Mike Webb Sucks— 11/4/06@ 8:11 am

  97. 97

    Mike Webb SUUUUUCKS spews:

    Monday, 11/6/06 at 7:14 am

    Still, two public polls gave Republicans reason to be hopeful that they could stave off a Democratic takeover.

    Republicans were posting higher marks among likely voters on the question of which party should control the House, a shift one poll attributed to the GOP making gains among independent voters and party faithful becoming more engaged. The independent Pew Research Center found that Democrats now have a four-point edge over Republicans, narrower than the 11-point advantage two weeks ago.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....NlYwM3MDM-

  98. 98

    Mike Webb SUUUUUCKS spews:

    Monday, 11/6/06 at 7:17 am

    Here is something to wake up the clueless ones in the morning:

    http://people-press.org/reports/tables/295.pdf

    A nationwide Pew Research Center survey finds voting intentions shifting in the direction of Republican congressional candidates in the final days of the 2006 midterm campaign. The new survey finds a growing percentage of likely voters saying they will vote for GOP candidates. However, the Democrats still hold a 48% to 40% lead among registered voters, and a modest lead of 47%-43% among likely voters.

    The narrowing of the Democratic lead raises questions about whether the party will win a large enough share of the popular vote to recapture control of the House of Representatives. The relationship between a party’s share of the popular vote and the number of seats it wins is less certain than it once was, in large part because of the increasing prevalence of safe seat redistricting. As a result, forecasting seat gains from national surveys has become more difficult. …

    Republican gains in the new poll reflect a number of late-breaking trends. First, Republicans have become more engaged and enthused in the election than they had been in September and October. While Democrats continue to express greater enthusiasm about voting than do Republicans, as many Republican voters (64%) as Democratic voters (62%) now say they are giving quite a lot of thought to the election. About a month ago, Democratic voters were considerably more likely than GOP voters to say they were giving a lot of thought to the election (by 59%-50%). As a result, Republicans now register a greater likelihood of voting than do Democrats, as is typical in mid-term elections.

    The race is tightening up!

    Man if you guys don’t win the House under these circumstances, what does that say for Moonbat-Speak and Moonbat-Thought?

    Can you say Buh-bye GBS?

  99. 99

    JCH [Visiting Pennsylvania] spews:

    Monday, 11/6/06 at 7:22 am

    GBS………..Very soon!!! Thank you John “Swift Boat” Kerry!!!!

  100. 100

    Mike Webb SUUUUUCKS spews:

    Monday, 11/6/06 at 7:23 am

    http://strata-sphere.com/blog/.....hives/2838

    Now Gallup sees similar to Pew!

    Can you say thanks John Kerry?

  101. 101

    JCH [Visiting Pennsylvania] spews:

    Monday, 11/6/06 at 7:27 am

    Dear ACORN, Illegals, New York City Jews who “double” vote Democrat in NYC and Palm Beach, and Democrat Blacks who get bussed to several polls in Milwaukee, Border Patrol with dogs, and the MinuteMen will be at EVERY poll to arrest and deport you on Tuesday!! Voter fraud is a capital offense!!!

  102. 102

    Mike Webb SUUUUUCKS spews:

    Monday, 11/6/06 at 7:36 am

    Another reason why the public is biased to donk… it’s the librul media stupid!

    http://www.mrc.org/cyberalerts.....1106.asp#2

  103. 103

    Mike Webb SUUUUUCKS spews:

    Monday, 11/6/06 at 7:38 am

    More truth to hurt the librul minds:

    http://www.mrc.org/notablequot.....061106.asp

    Remember imbeciles like clueless; these words come direct from librul MSM, no “neo-con” caused them to say this!

  104. 104

    stedman spews:

    Monday, 11/6/06 at 7:53 am

    re 106: Just ask Dan Coulter!

  105. 105

    Another TJ spews:

    Monday, 11/6/06 at 8:01 am

    Facts have a left-wing bias.

  106. 106

    For the Clueless spews:

    Monday, 11/6/06 at 8:10 am

    Hey WOS – how many times do I have to repeat? I don’t click on wingnut links, just MSM.

    Your reading comprehension always sucked and I know why.

    The mental disorder wingnuttia rots your brain!

  107. 107

    Daddy Love spews:

    Monday, 11/6/06 at 10:16 am

    “Pakistan is one of the most important partners in the war on terrorism”

    And if only we had more partners who would pull their troops out of the areas where Osama bin Laden is known to be living, and who would assist Iran with nuclear technoology, we’d be ever so much better off!

  108. 108

    Daddy Love spews:

    Monday, 11/6/06 at 10:20 am

    103 MWS

    Pew? Who are they? Here’s your favorite news source after WND (but the news isn’t good–a 13-point generic lead):

    Fox news poll: “Nearly half of likely voters — 49 percent — favor the Democratic candidate in their House district and 36 percent the Republican, with 15 percent still undecided in a FOX News poll conducted the final weekend before the midterm elections. More Democrats (37 percent) than Republicans (26 percent) say they are extremely interested in tomorrow’s elections, and more Democrats (89 percent) than Republicans (81 percent) say they plan to vote for their party’s candidate in their district…Independents favor the Democratic candidate by 42 percent to 27 percent…”

    Oh, yeah, and the seven-point USAToday/Gallup lead is exactly the same as Gallup’s generic GOP lead at this point in the cycle in 1994.

    Have a happy tomorrow.

  109. 109

    JCH [PA] spews:

    Monday, 11/6/06 at 10:33 am

    GBS, Again, your question has been answered in previous posts. FYI, I figure you are out of here in 48 hours, and I will take full credit for taking out the liberal Democrat traitor garbage. [BTW, COKER wins in TENN………Liberman goes independent, and Kerry’s big liberal “insult the troops” mouth kicks you off HA.ORG. “Game…….Set……..Match” Regards, JCH

  110. 110

    JCH [PA] spews:

    Monday, 11/6/06 at 12:04 pm

    Illegal Democrat voting Mooooooooooooooooooooooslims who are not citizens will be deported back to Mooooooooooooooooooooooslimland!!!!

    Daddy Love, 25% of Democrat votes in NM [Baja Norte, MX] are ILLEGAL!!!!!! Hey Illegals!!!! Border Partrol and the MinuteMen are ready!!! We will deport you and your “anchor babies”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

“The David Goldstein Show” tonight on Newsradio 710-KIRO

by Goldy — Sunday, 10/29/06, 6:42 pm

Again, a crappy day for Birds fans (Seahawks and Eagles) so I’m just going to take out my anger and frustration by trash-talking some politicians tonight on “The David Goldstein Show” on Newsradio 710-KIRO, from 7PM to 10PM.

7PM: Do multimillionaires need yet another tax break? Multimillionaire Seattle developer Martin Selig has sunk nearly a million dollars into estate tax repeal Initiative 920, and multimillionaire Seattle Times publisher Frank Blethen has contributed the blood, sweat and rhetorical tears of his entire editorial board. But in a state with the most regressive tax structure in the nation (by far) can one possibly justify making estate tax repeal a top priority? No on 920 spokesman Sandeep Kaushik will join me to field your questions, and hammer a few more nails into the initiative’s coffin. Kaushik, a former newspaperman himself, will also join me in ranting on the way this self-serving initiative has distorted the editorial process at many of our state’s leading newspapers.

8PM: What can we expect from a Democratic Senate? Um… a Democratic state Senate, that is. Washington Dems currently hold a nominal 2-seat majority in the state Senate, with two conservative Dems often voting with the Republicans on key issues. But Dems are poised to pick up as many as five seats in close races throughout the state. Two of the party’s most promising new candidates, Eric Oemig (45th LD) and Yvonne Ward (31st LD) join me to talk about their races, and what we might expect from a real Democratic majority.

9PM: Obama-rama hit town this week. Did Seattle just meet the next President of the United States? Illinois Sen. Barack Obama was greeted by standing-room-only crowds in the wake of his kinda-sorta announcement that he might in fact be considering a run for the White House. Obama was in town hawking his book and campaigning for Darcy Burner and Maria Cantwell, and local blogger Andrew Villeneuve will give us a firsthand account of the big rally. Can Obama win? Is America ready to elect its first black president? Do you just not get the whole Obama thing? Give me a call and share your thoughts.

Tune in tonight (or listen to the live stream) and give me a call: 1-877-710-KIRO (5476).

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  1. 111

    klake spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 6:54 pm

    Ohhhhh! Hi!!!! anybody home?????????????? Knock knock!!!!
    Where is everybody????????????????? Taking a nap??????????????? Sweet Dreams FoolSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS1

  2. 112

    Another TJ spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 7:02 pm

    I’m looking forward to hearing Andrew. I’ve been reading his stuff for a while, but I don’t think I’ve actually heard his voice yet.

    Have a good show.

  3. 113

    headless lucy spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 7:03 pm

    klake’s wife is gone for the weeekend so he bought a carton of Marlboros and 2 casses of Moosehead and hunkered down to the keyboard to spend his time commenting to the people he REALLY prefers: the Liberals on HA!!!!

  4. 114

    Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 7:04 pm

    Holy shit… even a kook like joni balter says The Smartest Woman In The World is’t gonna be president because she’s such a divisive evil bitch.

    http://archives.seattletimes.n.....ery=balter

    did joni wander off the plantation? I’ll bet she’s on the phone right now with screamin dean

  5. 115

    Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 7:07 pm

    Hey Goldy – How ’bout a segment on the clout FUWA will have with the 99th most influential senator and the 5 time winner of the no rocket scientist award.

  6. 116

    Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 7:08 pm

    Hey loocy – how ’bout an update on your efforts to fix the “negro problem”?

    “Black people can be stressful to be around 24/7. Believe me , I know.” Commentby headless lucy— 9/16/05@ 10:12 pm

    Thanks Cynical though for your help with the Negro problem.
    Commentby headless lucy— 9/17/05@ 7:47 am

  7. 117

    Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 7:10 pm

    Or is that also like checkers?

    …the oil industry is a zero sum game ( like checkers )
    Commentby headless lucy— 4/9/06@ 2:56 pm

  8. 118

    For the Clueless spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 7:17 pm

    7 – pay the fucking gambling debt you owe to Goldy, loser.

  9. 119

    headless lucy spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 7:18 pm

    re 6: Why don’t you take your lily-white lips and plant them firmly on Bob Corkers pasty behind — which is what you really want to do.

  10. 120

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 7:22 pm

    I love Lucy even though she dosn’t have a head

  11. 121

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 7:24 pm

    Is my favoret jew on tonight?

  12. 122

    headless lucy spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 7:28 pm

    Checkers and the oil industry are both zero sum games. The oil industry claims it is not a zero sum game — but it is. If a minister compares the legal problems of Tom DeLay to the persecution of Christ , that is an asinine comparison.

    A zero sum game is where there are a set number of pieces — no more, no less — like , um, checkers, or chess, or bituminous coal, or oil. I’ll let you read up on game theory yourself to figure out the significance of the oil industry insisting that oil production is NOT a zero sum game(Put on your thinking cap here, i.e., in limited supply –like the game pieces in a checkers game)when it clearly and obviously is.

    That’s how I know you are a third tier Republican — you are stupid.

  13. 123

    klake spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 7:45 pm

    If life wasn’t rosy in Seattle fish wrappers today DEMOCRATIC win will make the state greener, WOW. Now these Clowns are counting their eggs before they hatch. Jim McDermott the man that sleep while Queen Gregoire was appointed Governor of Seattle. Woops Washington. Now that is the person you want representing you in Washington DC. You know the chap that flew to Bagdad Iraq to save Saddam Hussein from himself. Now he was the only Liberal that voted against the War and the others were not the sharpest knives in the drawer. Oh!!!! Did I say that, only one person that could see all the lies the Socialist Democrats claimed Bush said. WOW !!!!!!!!!!! What fools do we have in Washington take your pick there is two Washington and one lives in the twilight Zone. Now is he really going to create a national health care system when the folks here who are all Socialist Democrats can’t pass it in this state? Maybe but unlikely. Alternative energy, you got to be kidding they have not figure out how to tax it yet, many years off. Now you folks tell me how you think little Jimmy will make a hit in Washington and that’s DC.
    http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....if29m.html
    Democratic win would strengthen state’s clout
    By Alicia Mundy
    Seattle Times Washington bureau

    WASHINGTON — Rep. Jim McDermott, Washington’s most liberal congressman, is called courageous by his fans and an embarrassment bordering on irrelevant by his detractors.
    Next month, both camps may be calling him Mr. Chairman.
    If Democrats win control of the House, McDermott could become an important politician.
    He’d get a subcommittee chairmanship on the House Ways and Means Committee, a platform he says he’d use to push for universal health-care coverage and alternative energy.
    Speculation about McDermott’s potential elevation — and that of other Democrats, such as Rep. Norm Dicks of Bremerton — is part of the grand guessing game in full swing on Capitol Hill.

  14. 124

    klake spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 7:46 pm

    klake’s wife is gone for the weeekend so he bought a carton of Marlboros and 2 casses of Moosehead and hunkered down to the keyboard to spend his time commenting to the people he REALLY prefers: the Liberals on HA!!!!

    Commentby headless lucy— 10/29/06@ 7:03 pm

    Hey sweety how did you guest and its been fun. And we all love you too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  15. 125

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 7:54 pm

    Lucy is the sexyest headless woman in america

  16. 126

    RightEqualsStupid spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 8:01 pm

    14 SITTING FEDERAL GOP POLITICIANS ARE under arrest, indictment, probation, conviction or investigation. Only ONE Dem is in that situation. And just think how many rethugs we’d have in jail if there were any REAL oversight!!!

  17. 127

    RightEqualsStupid spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 8:02 pm

    Just think, we’re only a matter of weeks away from being able to bring these right wing traitors to justice. I can’t wait!

  18. 128

    headless lucy spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 8:04 pm

    Somebody once said to me: ” If you don’t shut up , I’m going to rip off your head and shit down your neck. ”

    I wish now that I’d shut up.

  19. 129

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 8:51 pm

    I think it’s funny that the pushers of the Martin Selig Tax Relief Initiative bought ads on Goldy’s show to peddle their lies!

    BTW Selig is a FREELOADER!!! At times he’s owed Seattle City Light over $1 million in unpaid utility bills, and used to be a chronic property-tax late payer until they started charging scofflaws like him 12% interest. But he’s got $1 million to buy misleading TV and radio ads for his personal initiative! Go figure. That guy’s priorities are fucked up.

  20. 130

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 8:53 pm

    I wonder who’s gonna get Selig’s loot. Does he have kids? I hope they’re more socially responsible than he is!!! He’ll probably give it to a rightwing think tank or propaganda mill, like Richie Scaife did with Andrew Mellon’s money!!! (blarrrghhh) (puke)

  21. 131

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 8:56 pm

    4

    Well I don’t think Redneck has to worry about the estate tax. He’s not even good for a $100 gambling debt or a $99 donation to http://www.operation-helmet.org/.

  22. 132

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 9:00 pm

    13

    If a minister compares the legal problems of Tom DeLay to the persecution of Christ , that is an asinine comparison.

    Commentby headless lucy— 10/29/06@ 7:28 pm

    The difference is Tom DeLay’s got it coming.

  23. 133

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 9:04 pm

    Roger Rabbit has posted only 20% of the comments on this thread — not 30% like Goldy says.

  24. 134

    klake spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 9:30 pm

    Goldy did you check your clocks on your server? Accourding to the big clock in the sky you are an hour off.

  25. 135

    klake spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 9:33 pm

    You folks are sleeping at the keyboard tonight?
    Newspapers Across Washington State Endorse Mike

    From Seattle to Spokane and from Centralia to Lynden, newspapers have endorsed Mike McGavick for U.S. Senate. Mike’s message of real change for Washington is cutting across ideological, partisan and geographic boundaries. Mike has tied the incumbent for the number of major Washington state newspaper endorsements — a huge victory and a sign that Washingtonians agree that we need to do better.

    These newspapers know that you can’t expect change in Washington, D.C., by sending the same people back — and they agree that a vote for Mike is a vote for common sense and independent-minded Northwest values!

  26. 136

    klake spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 9:34 pm

    Hell only the spammers are posting tonight,

  27. 137

    klake spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 9:38 pm

    Roger are moon lighting at Newsweek now?
    Inhofe Blisters Global Warming Alarmists

    Newsweek Magazine has finally admitted that it got it wrong on climate change 31 years ago.

    In an Oct. 23 article that appeared on the news weekly’s Web site, senior editor Jerry Adler wrote that an April 1975 piece on global cooling had been “spectacularly wrong.”

    In that article, the magazine told readers that the Earth was heading into a new Ice Age.

    It reported that there were “ominous signs that the Earth’s weather patterns have begun to change dramatically.” And it warned of a “drastic decline in food production” that would cause shortages affecting “just about every nation on Earth.”

    Scientists, Newsweek said, were calling on governments to take immediate action to head off the coming catastrophe. The magazine even offered a possible solution — pour soot over the Arctic ice cap to help it melt.

  28. 138

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 9:43 pm

    klake the nazi has posted 21% of the comments on this thread.

  29. 139

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 9:46 pm

    That John guy who called Goldy’s show sure is an angry dude. He sounds like one of those cheap labor conservatives who think bosses are the only people who “work.” The whole fucking point of being a boss is to make other people work.

  30. 140

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 9:47 pm

    14,000 weapons missing in Iraq. Good work, pukians! Another fiasco by Rumsfeld’s Pentagon.

  31. 141

    klake spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 9:47 pm

    Where is Chicken Little when you need him?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjrH09wVmrk
    Where is Al Goreaaaaaaaaaaaa when you need him?

  32. 142

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 9:47 pm

    Let’s see them blame THAT on Clinton!

  33. 143

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 9:48 pm

    Where are the 14,000 weapons? Did the terrorists get them? Is Rumsfeld making America safer?

  34. 144

    klake spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 9:49 pm

    14,000 weapons missing in Iraq. Good work, pukians! Another fiasco by Rumsfeld’s Pentagon.

    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 10/29/06@ 9:47 pm
    We would have got all of them if you where there Roger. Bummer Dude!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  35. 145

    klake spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 9:51 pm

    Let’s see them blame THAT on Clinton!

    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 10/29/06@ 9:47 pm

    ROGER YOU HAVE TO QUITE BLAMMIMG BILL FOR ALL YOUR MISTAKES. Lighten up man you are becoming a drag.

  36. 146

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 9:54 pm

    DO YOU WANT TO LIVE NEXT DOOR TO A DYNAMITE FACTORY?

    If so, vote for Initiative 933! When your neighbors can do any fucking thing they want, you may find yourself living next door to a wrecking yard, toxic disposal landfill, or dynamite factory because government can’t afford to pay your neighbors to just live in their fucking house and not blow up the neighborhood!

  37. 147

    klake spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 9:54 pm

    Roger do you have a Ghost Rider problem?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGjsPYLb9xU&NR

  38. 148

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 9:55 pm

    ROGER RABBIT POLL

    If I-933 passes, what would you like to see Mark the Redneck live next door to?

    [ ] 1. wrecking yard
    [ ] 2. toxic chemical dump
    [ ] 3. dynamite factory
    [ ] 4. all of the above

  39. 149

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 9:55 pm

    Hey Redneck could you please post your address? I want to buy some investment property in your neighborhood.

  40. 150

    klake spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 9:57 pm

    If so, vote for Initiative 933! When your neighbors can do any fucking thing they want, you may find yourself living next door to a wrecking yard, toxic disposal landfill, or dynamite factory because government can’t afford to pay your neighbors to just live in their fucking house and not blow up the neighborhood!

    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 10/29/06@ 9:54 pm

    Roger if you live in Green Lake you have that problem. Hell you might have a few home grown Terrorist living there today.

  41. 151

    klake spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 9:59 pm

    If I-933 passes, what would you like to see Mark the Redneck live next door to?

    [ ] 1. wrecking yard
    [ ] 2. toxic chemical dump
    [ ] 3. dynamite factory
    [ ] 4. all of the above

    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 10/29/06@ 9:55 pm

    You will find all of the above if you live in Seattle and a few nuts to go with them.

  42. 152

    RightEqualsStupid spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 9:59 pm

    Newspapers across the state are endorsing Alaska’s Senatorial Candidate Mike McGavick. But VOTERS are voting for hero Democratic Senator Maria Cantwell who by the way flakey klakey has a double digit lead over your pal the lobbyist.

  43. 153

    klake spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 10:02 pm

    Roger do you remember the good old days?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3syLQlNFFhk

  44. 154

    klake spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 10:13 pm

    Roger here is a message that Howard Dean wants you to hear. Sweet DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEn.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRAkHNI02nI

  45. 155

    Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 10:13 pm

    Loosy 13 – Priceless… probably your best work ever. It’s in the archive.

    Thanks…

    LMAO….

  46. 156

    For the Clueless spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 10:30 pm

    Pay the fucking gambling debt you owe to Goldy.

  47. 157

    reggie spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 10:42 pm

    obama is a nice story. He may well be president but not in 2008. If the democrats are stupid enough to send him up for the presidential election before he’s ready, it could ruin him politically forever.

    In case you haven’t read a history book lately, there have only been two presidents elected in the last 70 years that were not either a former Vice President or a Governor of a state. And none since Kennedy was shot. Obama is not going to break that trend. you want to know who your next president is? Look for a southern democratic governor that can play it down the middle.

  48. 158

    headless lucy spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 10:56 pm

    re 53: Here’s an article that explains it to you: And to anyone else who thinks your mockery is in any way factual,they’ll see this quote and this link every time you refer to zero-sum games and oil. You disgust me you sneering buffoon! —“Here’s the bottom line: Any finite resource is a ZSG. Even an infinite resource has only 100% of marketshare, to be divided amongst competitors. That percentage is also a ZSG.

    Let’s see how some of these zero sum issues apply to different areas:
    >
    Markets: are probably the best example of a ZSG. In 2000, the Wishire 5000 was worth $1.2 trillion more than it is today. Some people bought, some people sold. Mark-to-market, there is a loss to the collective buyers from the collective sellers. Its even more specific with individual companies.
    I short the SPX to you — each tick is zero sum — there’s a winner and a loser.
    Stocks that always go up and never go down are exempt from this; Please let me know as soon as you find any.”
    >
    http://bigpicture.typepad.com/.....ame_z.html

  49. 159

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 11:03 pm

    gold is the only show i realy listen to on kiro any more

  50. 160

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 11:04 pm

    goldy

  51. 161

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 11:05 pm

    are you guys still wonking it out?

  52. 162

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 11:07 pm

    I have been listening to kuow public radio lately

  53. 163

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 11:08 pm

    Lucy are you going to be the headless horse woman for hallowen?

  54. 164

    headless lucy spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 11:11 pm

    re 62: No. I’m wearing an eyepatch and a fright wig and I’m going to be, Gihouly — or whatever the hell that one eyed glassblower is.

  55. 165

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 11:24 pm

    eyed glassblower?

    are you going to some party.

    I never go out for hallowen . I uselly jsut light a candle and listen to art bells gost storys on halloween on kvi .

    If you have never herd art bell you should give him a listen he is on now his show just started on kvi 570 am

    He does mostly gohst’s ufo crop circles that kind of stuff.

    But his halloween show is really speceal he has his callers call in with real gohst storys. And they are really good mostly

  56. 166

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 11:25 pm

    oops …..one eyed glassblower?

  57. 167

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 11:27 pm

    Im kind of a radio nut I don’t even have cable becoase I listen to the radio so much it is really a wast o money to have cable.

  58. 168

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 11:11 pm

    43

    “Roger if you live in Green Lake you have that problem. Hell you might have a few home grown Terrorist living there today.”

    Commentby klake— 10/29/06@ 9:57 pm

    The only problems in Green Lake are (a) dogs (b) Sharkansky. Get rid of those and you’ve got a decent neighborhood. I like Stefan’s garden though.

  59. 169

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 11:12 pm

    44

    You will find all of the above if you live in Seattle and a few nuts to go with them.

    Commentby klake— 10/29/06@ 9:59 pm

    Bellevue already has plenty of nuts, and if I-933 passes, it’ll have wrecking yards, toxic landfills, and dynamite factories too.

  60. 170

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 10/29/06 at 11:14 pm

    50

    You’re assuming the South will continue calling the shots, but I think the South shot its wad on GWB. 2004 demonstrated the Democrats can win without a single southern state. If Ohio hadn’t been stolen, they would have pulled it off.

  61. 171

    Jack spews:

    Monday, 10/30/06 at 3:56 am

    this site has turned to shit

  62. 172

    Anonymous spews:

    Monday, 10/30/06 at 7:50 am

    It started out as a gag here on the editorial page of the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette and soon became a superstition: Every time the stock market took a little dip, we’d reprint one of Paul Krugman’s dour columns from the New York Jaundiced Times about the imminent doom of the American economy. Almost immediately the market would bounce back and then some. It worked every time. But we may have overdone it of late. By now the Dow Jones has started to cross into 12,000 territory. A few more Krugman columns explaining how the economy has cooled off and the thing could overheat. We reprinted one of his columns [recently] and, sure enough, by the end of the day, the Dow ended the day over 12,000 for the first time. AN HISTORIC HIGH! and all that jazz. Well, sure. The Krugman touch never fails. The more Professor Eeyore says the economy is going to hell, the more heavenly it gets. Can it be just a coincidence? The
    Dow seems to surge whenever it sees ‘Paul Krugman’ in a by-line. It must be a kind of Pavlovian reaction by now.” —Paul Greenberg

  63. 173

    stedman spews:

    Monday, 10/30/06 at 7:56 am

    The more it looks like a Democratic win, the higher the stock market goes.

  64. 174

    Daddy Love spews:

    Monday, 10/30/06 at 10:02 am

    46 klake

    You don’t throw up from taking too much acid. How come MWS doesn’t call the South Park guys STUUUUPPPIIIDDD?

  65. 175

    Daddy Love spews:

    Monday, 10/30/06 at 10:03 am

    65 Anonymous

    Things that are different:
    – Correlation
    – Causation

    Learn it. Live it.

  66. 176

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 10/30/06 at 10:22 am

    64

    you’re just noticing?

  67. 177

    Anonymous spews:

    Monday, 10/30/06 at 12:19 pm

    28 klake

    That’s your liberal media for you.

  68. 178

    Anonymous spews:

    Monday, 10/30/06 at 12:31 pm

    30 klake

    Despite its cropping up as one of the most reliably quoted bits of deceitful GOP propaganda since Communist putting fluoride in our drinking water, the “new Ice Age” theory of the 1970s was
    (1) Proposed and believed by only a minority within the scientific community
    (2) Consistent with the observed cooling trend from the 1940s through the 1970s
    (3) Reflective of the contemporary undeveloped understanding of global climate
    (4) Examined and basically debunked by the rest of the community (so to say “scientists believed in global cooling” if you mean that “all or most scientists adhered to the New Ice age theory” is either ignorant and deceptive or both)
    (5) Replaced by a robust climate research program out of which has emerged the current overwhelming, essentially-unanimous consensus of the scientific community on global anthropocentric climate change (referred to by klake, the lazy press, and the ignorant as “global warming”).

  69. 179

    Anonymous spews:

    Monday, 10/30/06 at 12:34 pm

    4 MTR

    “The Smartest Woman In The World is’t gonna be president because she’s such a divisive evil bitch.”

    Umm, all he said was that she is polarizing. The divisive evil one is Bush. But be that as it may, if one’s faults were what disqualified one for high office, (a) Bush would not be president and (b) McCain wouldn’t have a chance. Go Hill! Drive MTR crazy!

“The David Goldstein Show” tonight on Newsradio 710-KIRO

by Goldy — Sunday, 10/22/06, 5:52 pm

Both the Seahawks and the Eagles lost (a 61-yard field goal, dammit… what’s the chance of that?) so sit back and drown your sorrows in the intoxicating conversation on tonight’s “The David Goldstein Show” on Newsradio 710-KIRO, from 7PM to 10PM.

7PM: Are we on the brink of an historic military defeat in Iraq? I’ll be joined by Philip Gold, a former Senior Fellow in National Security Affairs at the conservative Seattle-based think tank the Discovery Institute. In the spring of 2002, Gold became one of the nation’s first prominent conservatives to oppose the upcoming Iraq war and the Bush/neocon agenda, and has since seen his dire predictions come true. In July of 2001 Gold predicted that Jihadist terrorist attacks were imminent. After 9/11 he warned that an Iraq invasion would lead to disaster. Tune in and find out why this lifelong Republican is voting a straight Democratic ticket in November’s election.

8PM: Q&A with Darcy and Peter. Two of the hottest congressional races in the nation are being waged right here in Washington state, and control of the House could lie in the balance. At 8PM, 8th Congressional District Democratic challenger Darcy Burner joins me for a campaign update, and to take your questions. At 8:30 we’ll be calling out East to the 5th Congressional District, where Democratic challenger Peter Goldmark is giving Republican incumbent Cathy McMorris fits. This is your chance to ask your future representatives about their legislative priorities in the new, Democratic controlled House.

9PM: Do you believe what you read in the papers? Former Seattle Weekly columnist Geov Parrish joins me for a tell-all about his old employer, and a blunt discussion about the state of the region’s print media. How much will we miss the Seattle P-I should Seattle Times publisher Frank Blethen succeed in pushing it into its grave, and how damaged is the Times credibility from its relentless, self-serving shilling for estate tax repeal? Do you even bother to read the Times endorsements anymore, now that the only issue candidates are judged on is the estate tax?

Tune in tonight (or listen to the live stream) and give me a call: 1-877-710-KIRO (5476).

UPDATE:
Darcy and Peter need your help! Click here to learn how and why, or simply give a few bucks directly through my Act Blue page.

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  1. 180

    bigbyrd spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 6:12 pm

    Anyone who would vote for either of these neophytes is ‘dain bramaged’

  2. 181

    Observer spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 6:31 pm

    Hey dumbass, Goldmark, even if he did win doesn’t represent this side of the mountains. If you think any one over there even knows you are on the radio or would find you on the internet, then you are more delusional than outwardly is so obvious.

  3. 182

    Another TJ spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 6:35 pm

    Hey dumbass, Goldmark, even if he did win doesn’t represent this side of the mountains. If you think any one over there even knows you are on the radio or would find you on the internet, then you are more delusional than outwardly is so obvious.

    Over here on the east side of the mountains, we call your kind rock stupid.

  4. 183

    headless lucy spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 6:35 pm

    re2: You worded that very clumsily. I advise you, nay, COMMAND you, to do it over. We have no time here for your stumbling, rube-like drivel.

  5. 184

    Observer spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 6:39 pm

    Lucy-

    Clear headed thinking is apparently alien to you.

  6. 185

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 6:45 pm

    The goopers are praying for a 119-yarder by their star field goal kicker, Paperless Diebold.

  7. 186

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 6:45 pm

    Seattle Weekly is dead. I’ll never read it again. I won’t even wrap fish in it.

  8. 187

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 6:47 pm

    2

    “would find you on the internet” Commentby Observer— 10/22/06@ 6:31 pm

    you did, and you’re as dumb as they come

  9. 188

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 6:48 pm

    5

    Alien thinking apparently is clear to you.

  10. 189

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 6:51 pm

    Observer anchors the swing shift in the BIAW basement computer room.

  11. 190

    americafirst spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 6:51 pm

    7PM: Are we on the brink of an historic military defeat in Iraq? I’ll be joined by Philip Gold, a former Senior Fellow in National Security Affairs at the conservative Seattle-based think tank the Discovery Institute. In the spring of 2002, Gold became one of the nation’s first prominent conservatives to oppose the upcoming Iraq war and the Bush/neocon agenda, and has since seen his dire predictions come true. In July of 2001 Gold predicted that Jihadist terrorist attacks were imminent. After 9/11 he warned that an Iraq invasion would lead to disaster. Tune in and find out why this lifelong Republican is voting a straight Democratic ticket in November’s election.
    ===========================================================
    Bet that Gold is just another fake conservative trying to make a buck off dumbshit libs. If you believe that he’s a lifelong Repub you’re just the kind of sucker he’s looking for.

  12. 191

    Observer spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 6:51 pm

    If you think a farmer is going to use his computer to listen to the radio instead of his radio to listen to the readio, when more likely he would retire early to get up early, then you all are as delusional as you appear.

  13. 192

    Harry Tuttle spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 6:52 pm

    Report on a Day on the Trail with Darcy Burner from kos:

    http://www.dailykos.com/storyo...../1666/9905

  14. 193

    Another TJ spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 6:54 pm

    If you think a farmer is going to use his computer to listen to the radio instead of his radio to listen to the readio, when more likely he would retire early to get up early, then you all are as delusional as you appear.

    If you think everyone who lives on the east side of the mountains is a farmer, you’re as stupid as you appear.

  15. 194

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 7:00 pm

    Seattle liberals pay for the eastside farmers’ roads and schools. We subsidize the cheap electricity that runs their irrigation pumps. We pay for the dams that impound their irrigation water. We’re even going to build them a new $1.8 billion irriation reservoir in the Yakima Valley. We pay taxes for their crop support payments. Did I forget anything? And then the bastards turn around and vote Republican, complaining the whole time about “socialism.”

  16. 195

    Observer spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 7:06 pm

    So if you don’t count agri-business, TJ, then you think he can win? You are counting on all the others? Spokane is not King County.

    Dumbass.

  17. 196

    Another TJ spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 7:11 pm

    Observer,

    You seem to have know nothing about the 5th district and Peter Goldmark. Thank you for displaying your ignorance so clearly.

  18. 197

    Another TJ spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 7:12 pm

    Sorry about the extra “have” there.

  19. 198

    Doctor JCH Kennedy, ESQ spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 7:14 pm

    Question: Dave, Why do 95% of blacks, felons, “guvment” employees and welfare parasites vote Democrat?

  20. 199

    Leftout(of their minds!) spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 7:16 pm

    Perhaps David Goldstein can also cover the 3rd District Race in Mississippi.

  21. 200

    TheTruth2006 spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 7:19 pm

    Clownstein you are such a fraud. You gushed about goldmark and how the Spokesman Review would endorse him but that turned out false.

    “I’m guessing that Democratic challenger Peter Goldmark is being given fair consideration. Unlike their colleagues at the Seattle Death-Tax-Repeal Times, the folks at the S-R actually know the district, and thus they know that Goldmark really is a perfect fit.” – Clownstein gushing propaganda

    Clownstein, I grew up in that area. There is no way in hell Goldmark will win. Your insulting patronization of Eastern Washington voters is so shallow they see right through it. Goldmark would have been better off you had never mentioned his name. My relatives still live over there and you wouldn’t want me repeating what they have to say about Seattle Liberals.

    But hey, please keep prediting complete and utter victory for all those loser Democrats. That will make sure your Nov 8th dose of crow is as big as your thick head and loud mouth.

  22. 201

    TheTruth2006 spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 7:27 pm

    “Seattle liberals pay for the eastside farmers’ roads and schools. We subsidize the cheap electricity that runs their irrigation pumps. We pay for the dams that impound their irrigation water. We’re even going to build them a new $1.8 billion irriation reservoir in the Yakima Valley. We pay taxes for their crop support payments. Did I forget anything? And then the bastards turn around and vote Republican, complaining the whole time about “socialism.”” – retarded rabbit

    Seattle liberals do none of those things. Seattle liberals produce nothing. By contrast, eastside farmers feed Seattle liberals in their urban cores. Eastern Washington provides the electricity from the Grand Coulee that powers Seattle, they grow the wheat, corn, asparagus, carrot, pear, cherry and apple crops that feed self righteous Seattle Liberals. When there is real work to be done, you won’t find a latte sipping Seattle weeny doing it.

  23. 202

    BigGlen spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 7:30 pm

    #12,
    If you think a farmer is going to use his computer to listen to the radio instead of his radio to listen to the readio, when more likely he would retire early to get up early, then you all are as delusional as you appear.

    Observer, if you think that farmers don’t use the internet then you are very ill informed about farmers.

  24. 203

    Harrod spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 7:32 pm

    She’s so fat that when she sings, it’s over.

  25. 204

    Harrod spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 7:33 pm

    She’s so fat that when she sings, it’s over.

  26. 205

    Anonymous spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 7:33 pm

    “She’s so fat that when she sings, it’s over. Commentby Harrod— 10/22/06@ 7:32 pm”

    Darcy’s going to sing? We she be as annoying as when she speaks?

  27. 206

    Crazy Election spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 7:35 pm

    Just did my WA ballot – first time I’ve said NO to every ballot initiative, resolution and proposition.

  28. 207

    klake spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 7:43 pm

    JCH & klake, please keep posting. Your hate filled diatribes, obvious slander and outright lies show the morality, or lack thereof, that you truly possess. Posts 5-8, 14, 40 showing your racist heart. Post 21(41) & 57 showing your own murderous loathing of everyone that believes differently than you. Post 4, 29, 43(the bill in question would have put limits on one man/company from owning more than 50% of an area’s media outlets.) & 54’s outright lies, fearmongering and demonizing of people simply because you disagree with them.

    So please, keep posting and showing everyone the character of the people that support the current Republican Leadership and the Bush Administration!

    Commentby Michael Caine— 10/22/06@ 7:22 pm
    Thanks Michael Caine we all love you to now support your statement with facts. Maybe but not likely the people simply disagree with us, maybe they are having a hard time understanding the message. Your friends the Terrorist now thanks you for your kind support.

  29. 208

    Doctor JCH Kennedy, ESQ spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 7:58 pm

    Klake, Perhaps you would like to add “ESQ” to your post name in honor of Harold Ford, JR “ESQ”…………..[not!]. As you know he did NOT pass his bar exams, but refers to himself as a lawyer. BTW, I hope you had a great weekend. With respect, JCH

  30. 209

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 8:05 pm

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....re22m.html

    Our liberal public schools at work.

  31. 210

    A concerned Democrat spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 8:08 pm

    31

    Where is the teachers union? This teacher is being dragged through the mud and the teachers union is no where to be found. The teachers unions main job is to protect the teachers. He must have fallen behind in his dues.

  32. 211

    BigGlen spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 8:09 pm

    Truth at 22
    Seattle liberals do none of those things. Seattle liberals produce nothing. By contrast, eastside farmers feed Seattle liberals in their urban cores. Eastern Washington provides the electricity from the Grand Coulee that powers Seattle, they grow the wheat, corn, asparagus, carrot, pear, cherry and apple crops that feed self righteous Seattle Liberals. When there is real work to be done, you won’t find a latte sipping Seattle weeny doing it.

    Commentby TheTruth2006— 10/22/06@ 7:27 pm

    Do you mean the Grand Coulee damn that was built by FDR and the democrats. Or do you mean the other damns that are on the Snake and Columbia rivers, you know the ones built by Maggie and us Seattle Democrats (and paid for by the Seattle liberals). ? Over 18% of the gas taxes paid in King County are spent outside of King County. Can you name one eastern Washington county that pays more gas taxes than it spends? Just one? You farmers need the roads we pay for to ship your crops to market. You need our ports to ship your crops around the world. WE need your crops to keep our ports open and in business. We need each other. And to sooner that people like you grow up and learn that to better off we will be.

  33. 212

    klake spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 8:09 pm

    So please, keep posting and showing everyone the character of the people that support the current Republican Leadership and the Bush Administration!

    Comment by Michael Caine— 10/22/06@ 7:22 pm
    By the way I’m a Democrat not a Socialist Democrat, so be careful with your labels sweet pea. It’s not your party that got hijack by bunch of left wing-nuts. The Republicans have some class but the Socialist Democrats base all their values on quick sand, and their emotional bank account which is now bankrupt.

  34. 213

    TheTruth2006 spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 8:10 pm

    Potty word count – source GOOGLE

    F-BOMB
    SP 14
    HA 37,200

    S-word (feces)
    SP 98
    HA 3,040

    a-word (anus)
    SP 28
    HA 1,410

    b-word (femdog)
    SP 118
    HA 1,250

  35. 214

    klake spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 8:21 pm

    http://www.students.org.au/political/correctness/
    Folks, now what do you base your Religion on today, like the Church of Liberalism with the High Priest preaching political correctness.
    “Political Correctness” is the name given to a set of political policies that have been promoted in Australia, New Zealand, Britain, the United States and Canada since the 1960s. These policies are constantly changing, and what is “politically correct” in 1970 may no longer be “politically correct” in 2000. People become aware of “Political Correctness” when they or someone else fall victim to it. Some examples of people who have fallen victim to “Political Correctness” are as follows:
    • Farmers who have had their land, which has been in their family for generations, confiscated and given to the indigenous people.
    • Relatives of murder victims where the murderer has been released on parole and the victim’s relatives have met the murderer in the local shopping centre.
    • Parents whose children have become homosexuals.
    • Husbands whose wives have left them for no good reason and been given half of the husband’s property by the Family Court.
    • Sporting shooters who have been prevented from shooting ducks by illegal protests, and whose guns are then confiscated on the basis that they can’t go shooting so they don’t need them.
    • Children at government schools who are declared mentally ill by the school counselor because they express political views that they got from their parents and that the Prime Minister said he supported.
    • Children who are not allowed to buy fireworks to celebrate Guy Fawkes Day, which children have always regarded as their second-favorite day after Christmas Day.
    • Employees who have been sacked because of competition from cheap foreign imports.
    The above examples show that “Political Correctness” is no laughing matter and is something that can affect ordinary Australians. In the 1960s, before “politically correct” policies were introduced, Australia had no significant social problems, and for that reason was known as “the lucky country”. Now, after 25 years of Labor Governments, Australia has problems like youth suicide, unemployment, a high crime rate, serial killing and pedophilia. All these things are the direct result of “Political Correctness”.

  36. 215

    headless lucy spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 8:23 pm

    re 5: This makes no sense and is poorly written:

    “…then you are more delusional than outwardly is so obvious.”

    But that’s what you wrote. Noam Chomsky, the brilliant linguist, teaches us that clear thinking and clear language are synonymous. You display neither. So go back to doing what you do best — merely observing.

  37. 216

    TheTruth2006 spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 8:24 pm

    @34,

    Do you mean the Grand Coulee damn that was built by FDR and the democrats.

    FDR didn’t build it at all. He merely showed up for the ribbon cutting ceremony. That damn sure wasn’t built wby Seattle liberals.

    Or do you mean the other damns that are on the Snake and Columbia rivers, you know the ones built by Maggie and us Seattle Democrats (and paid for by the Seattle liberals).

    Again, I didn’t see a single Seattle Democrat digging a ditch or pouring concrete. Amazing arrogance on your part. You come ove to the east side of the state to rape natural resources for your own urban centers and then demand that the rape victims be grateful to you.

    Over 18% of the gas taxes paid in King County are spent outside of King County. Can you name one eastern Washington county that pays more gas taxes than it spends? Just one? Oh I seriously doubt that. And can you name one Seattel neighborhood that generates enough electricity to power their homes?

    You farmers need the roads we pay for to ship your crops to market. You need our ports to ship your crops around the world. WE need your crops to keep our ports open and in business. We need each other. And to sooner that people like you grow up and learn that to better off we will be.

    No, the sooner you Seattle Liberals learn to stop thinking you are the great white benefactors of Eastern Washington and the poor ignorant rube had better be obedient in return, the better off we will be.

  38. 217

    headless lucy spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 8:27 pm

    re 37: All you really mean by the phrase,”political correctness”, is that you are no longer allowed to use the “n” word without being chastised for it.

    You never cease trying to put lipstick on a pig, do you, klake?

  39. 218

    BigGlen spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 8:32 pm

    Truth at 39,
    Having Uncles that DID pour the concrete at the Grand Coulle Damn I can say it was us Democrats that built it. But I will agree with you one on point:
    Again, I didn’t see a single Seattle Democrat digging a ditch or pouring concrete.
    You where not around for any of the Damn building, you did not see anybody pouring concrete.

    PS Digging ditches to make the Grand Coulee? No, the ditches where dug to drain the water out of Banks Lake.

  40. 219

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 8:37 pm

    I just got back from mailing my ballot…. I voted for that sexy hottie Maria Cantwell.!!!!!

    WOO HOO :-)

  41. 220

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 8:38 pm

    Ive dug ditches

  42. 221

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 8:41 pm

    and as for the next super hero duh he is sitting at kiro right now flapping his jaw. Goldy.

    Ron and Don = Dumb and Dumber..

  43. 222

    proud to be an Ass spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 8:47 pm

    Bet that Gold is just another fake conservative trying to make a buck off dumbshit libs. If you believe that he’s a lifelong Repub you’re just the kind of sucker he’s looking for.

    And your evidence for this assertion is exactly what?

    My god, man, he works for the Disco Institute. They make you give blood samples proving your loon politics before they take you on to suck off the corporate teat.

  44. 223

    proud to be an Ass spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 8:53 pm

    When there is real work to be done, you won’t find a latte sipping Seattle weeny doing it.

    Of course not, dolt. The farmers would much rather hire undocumented workers from Mexico at low wages. And PS: I dare you to find much asparagus grown commercially in this state anymore. You really are an ignoramus.

  45. 224

    RightEqualsStupid spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 8:58 pm

    Just 15 days until the most corrupt regime in US history starts to fall. 15 days until we start on the process of finding and rooting out some of the biggest cowards and traitors in US history!

  46. 225

    klake spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 9:00 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....p=963EF994 0B81A6ED&index=1
    This is the best picture of Roger squatting in a cave in Afghanistan with his new Taliban friends. You get to see what the Socialist Democrats are supporting in this war.

  47. 226

    proud to be an Ass spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 9:02 pm

    No, the sooner you Seattle Liberals learn to stop thinking you are the great white benefactors of Eastern Washington and the poor ignorant rube had better be obedient in return, the better off we will be.

    Conservatives and hard headed businesspeople are fond of aphorisms like “them that got the gold make the rules”, and “don’t bite the hand that feeds you”. This apparently does not apply, in jerkofascistspeak, to tax money. Conservatives glory in the nanny state, as long as it is taking care of conservatives at public expense. They have changed not one whit in this regard since their glory days in the Whig party.

  48. 227

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 9:07 pm

    and there still wereing wigs ala colter :-/

  49. 228

    Doctor JCH Kennedy, ESQ spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 10:02 pm

    “The farmers would much rather hire undocumented workers from Mexico at low wages.”

    Commentby proud to be an Ass [Why not stop welfare and food stamps? When the scum Democrats get hungry enough, they’ll work in the fields!!]

  50. 229

    sparky spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 10:03 pm

    Good show tonight Goldy!!

  51. 230

    Leftout(of their minds!) spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 10:16 pm

    sparky–
    Get a life.

  52. 231

    Doctor JCH Kennedy, ESQ spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 10:16 pm

    She was 10 years old, a fourth-grader in the Northshore School District, when John Carl Leede began fondling her, according to court records. He was a teacher, but not hers. He would spy her in the school library, approach, turn her away from him and begin grabbing, rubbing her breasts. She’d try to break away, but he would yank her back and put her in a kind of headlock.

    Disturbing case about long term sexual molestation of little girls at a Seattle public school, and the Democrat NEA pervert who was on the payroll that administration would do nothing about. Funny how NEA union Dems kept this quiet. No double standard here, eh, REP FOLEY????

  53. 232

    TheTruth2006 spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 10:18 pm

    The PI endorsed Esser over Rodney Tom. It looks like we’ll be treated to more potty words from Clownstein.

  54. 233

    TheTruth2006 spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 10:25 pm

    @47,

    “Of course not, dolt. The farmers would much rather hire undocumented workers from Mexico at low wages.”

    Yeah, the farmers hiring the Illegals makes it harder for rich Seattle Latte Liberals to get them as domestic help in their mansions.

    And PS: I dare you to find much asparagus grown commercially in this state anymore. You really are an ignoramus.

    Typical liberal, speaks without any facts to back him up.

    “Washington asparagus is produced on approximately 10,000 acres in the Columbia Basin, the Yakima Valley and the Walla Walla area. About 53 million pounds of asparagus are produced each year, bringing close to 28 million dollars to the state’s economy.”

    You can also .

  55. 234

    TheTruth2006 spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 10:26 pm

    Looks like Clownstein is censoring again. Not URLS allowed.

    You can learn all about Washington State Asparagus (unless Clownstein censors this):

    http://www.washingtonasparagus.....aragus.cfm

  56. 235

    TheTruth2006 spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 10:28 pm

    And here is a link to some suppliers of Washington State Asparagus, for ingorant liberals who are proud to make asses of themselves:

    http://www.washingtonasparagus.....pliers.cfm

  57. 236

    Doctor JCH Kennedy, ESQ spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 10:33 pm

    TOKYO — He raced up the steps of the Great Wall of China and swept down fashion runways with slender models on each arm. From Beijing to Shanghai, Hong Kong and Seoul, Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa has spent the last 16 days barnstorming East Asia in the name of bringing business home.

    Democrat Tony “Baja Norte” Rap livin’ large on the taxpayer’s dime. Even the LA Times can’t come up with any benefits for the $500,000 trip expense. God, It’s fun to spend taxpayer’s money, and if anyone bitches, just call them a racist!!!!

  58. 237

    Doctor JCH Kennedy, ESQ spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 10:34 pm

    “The farmers would much rather hire undocumented workers from Mexico at low wages.”

    Commentby proud to be an Ass [Why not stop welfare and food stamps? When the scum Democrats get hungry enough, they’ll work in the fields!!]

  59. 238

    My Left Foot spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 10:50 pm

    The truth? 206 @ 36

    Fuck you. You cocksucking, motherfucking, sonofabitch. Cram this up your ass Cyniclown. You are not fucking fooling anyone.

    Fuck you, you fucking fuck.

    Now, that should skew the statistics.

    Carl Grossman
    Liberal, Democrat, Jew (wonder if Thetruth?206 will see the humor here?)

  60. 239

    TheTruth2006 spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 11:09 pm

    Carl@66,

    Is that the best you got?

  61. 240

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 11:18 pm

    39

    I think we should let the eastsiders pay for their own water, electricity, roads, and schools. Fuck those ingrates.

  62. 241

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 11:25 pm

    39

    Next thing you know these liars will claim a Republican congress appropriated the money for Grand Coulee Dam. They’re already claiming MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. was a Republican. Hell, even KING TUT was a Republican! Don’t be surprising if these fucking liars even say ROGER RABBIT is a Republican!

    Sheesh. Have they no shame? (Don’t answer that.)

  63. 242

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 11:29 pm

    @57

    See #48.

    @59

    Reading HorsesAss.org is a voluntary activity.

  64. 243

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 11:33 pm

    I see in the news there’s an egg salad recall. Boy there sure is a lot of poison food on the market! Dangerous drugs, too. There’s a lot more of this now that Bush & Co. are running the Food and Drug Administration as a profit center. Their solution to bad products that sicken and kill consumers is — don’t let consumers sue!! I agree there’s too many lawsuits, and we can address this problem by improving the motivation of corporate execs to market safe products — when they don’t, execute them! Hey just kidding. If Coulter can get paid for cracking death jokes, then I’d like to get paid for writing about killing people, too! I can always use some extra money.

  65. 244

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 11:56 pm

    36

    HA = dirty words, clean thoughts
    SP = clean words, dirty thoughts

  66. 245

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 11:57 pm

    21

    “Clownstein, I grew up in that area.”

    Not really. You have yet to grow up.

  67. 246

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 11:59 pm

    31

    He’s merely practicing to be a Republican congressman, Dufus.

  68. 247

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 10/23/06 at 12:01 am

    Speaking of which, I read on Huffington Post that rumors are swirling of another congressional page scandal about to break, this one involving a 16-year-old girl. HP’s source is a Washington Post reporter.

    Here’s the GOP rallying cry:

    Feel ’em up! Feel ’em up! Yay! yay! yay!
    Feel ’em up! Feel ’em up! We’re gay! gay! gay!

  69. 248

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 10/23/06 at 12:02 am

    Fake-president Bush has declared this is National Character Counts Week.

    No shit, I’m not kidding! I didn’t make this up! http://www.whitehouse.gov/news.....13-17.html

  70. 249

    TheTruth2006 spews:

    Monday, 10/23/06 at 12:57 am

    76,

    HA= Dirty words, no thoughts
    SP= Clean words, deep thought

  71. 250

    TheTruth2006 spews:

    Monday, 10/23/06 at 12:59 am

    Is anyone really surprised anymore at the depths the Democrats will go to help the terrorists? First they want them to have “OJ” trials and now we learn that Democrats have been leaking national intelligence secrets.

    But then again, given that their party officials are crooks that violate campaign laws , trade crack cocaine for fraudulent votes and buy off voters to steal elections.

    Is there no depth to which they will not sink???

  72. 251

    Mr Ed spews:

    Monday, 10/23/06 at 5:14 am

    nice to see that the wingnuts help their own. They spent over $1.3M helping CynicalIDIOT with his medical bills after my cousin rear ended him in Enumclaw.

  73. 252

    proud to be an Ass spews:

    Monday, 10/23/06 at 5:52 am

    @60, 61, & 62: Well since you know so much, please explain to all present the precipitous decline in Wa. St. asparagus production. You might try looking at some stats:

    1990: over 30,000 tons
    2005: down to about 10,000 tons.

    You can’t find an asparagus field around Sunnyside any more. They used to be all over. They’re extinct. That’s in the Yakima Valley for those of you who are geographically challenged.

    Stop smoking the “grass” truthboy!

  74. 253

    proud to be an Ass spews:

    Monday, 10/23/06 at 6:07 am

    http://www.nass.usda.gov/Stati.....parags.pdf

    For those of you who wish to see current data.

  75. 254

    Mike Webb SUCKS spews:

    Monday, 10/23/06 at 6:42 am

    re 37: All you really mean by the phrase,”political correctness”, is that you are no longer allowed to use the “n” word without being chastised for it. You never cease trying to put lipstick on a pig, do you, klake? Commentby headless lucy— 10/22/06@ 8:27 pm

    The n-word bomb is acceptable in certain instances. Your use of it against PacMan and Puddy was unacceptable.

  76. 255

    Mike Webb SUCKS spews:

    Monday, 10/23/06 at 7:18 am

    Richard Pope: You’d be advised to drive down 70th Stree in Kirkland heading to Redmond. You’ll see moonbats have taken down your campaign signs and your opponent’s signs are still standing.

    I wouldn’t put it past some moonbat donk-o-crap to take down your signs.

  77. 256

    Mark1 spews:

    Monday, 10/23/06 at 7:23 am

    Someone is running against Reichert? News to me. Huh?!

  78. 257

    Mr Ed spews:

    Monday, 10/23/06 at 8:01 am

    Mark1 when are you coming back to my stall? Miss your educated prodding

  79. 258

    RightEqualsStupid spews:

    Monday, 10/23/06 at 9:43 am

    The terrorists have defeated us. Bush’s close ties to the bin Laden family are no doubt part of the reason he sold us out to the Taliban. We’ve been disgraced by a bunch of towell-heads and just like 9.11, it was on Bush’s watch. What a fucking train wreck.

  80. 259

    Doctor JCH Kennedy, ESQ spews:

    Monday, 10/23/06 at 9:44 am

    Mayor Martin O’Malley may be the target but Baltimore also takes a beating in a television ad launched yesterday by the Republican Governors Association, a 30-second tableau of urban decay that declares Maryland’s largest municipality “the most dangerous city in America.” -SNIP- The schools are in shambles, a female voice says, and the homicide rate is six times higher than New York City’s. [………………………………………….Baltimore: 100% Democrat, 100% black. 100% crime, gangs, and drugs. The Harare, Zimbabwe of the East Coast? The Hillary Village of the Democrat Party?]

  81. 260

    Doctor JCH Kennedy, ESQ spews:

    Monday, 10/23/06 at 9:45 am

    RightEqualsStupid, Kill an American, lose a Mooooooooooslim city!! My best guess is after 3 or 4 Moooooooslim cities are gone, the Mooooooooooslims will quit fucking with the USA.

  82. 261

    Doctor JCH Kennedy, ESQ spews:

    Monday, 10/23/06 at 9:54 am

    GBS, The answer to your problem!! [see posts 83, 84]

  83. 262

    Doctor JCH Kennedy, ESQ spews:

    Monday, 10/23/06 at 9:56 am

    The terrorists have defeated us.

    Commentby RightEqualsStupid [ ………………………”The VietNamese have defeated us”. [Jane Fonda]]

  84. 263

    Doctor JCH Kennedy, ESQ spews:

    Monday, 10/23/06 at 9:56 am

    TOKYO — He raced up the steps of the Great Wall of China and swept down fashion runways with slender models on each arm. From Beijing to Shanghai, Hong Kong and Seoul, Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa has spent the last 16 days barnstorming East Asia in the name of bringing business home.

    Democrat Tony “Baja Norte” Rap livin’ large on the taxpayer’s dime. Even the LA Times can’t come up with any benefits for the $500,000 trip expense. God, It’s fun to spend taxpayer’s money, and if anyone bitches, just call them a racist!!!!

  85. 264

    ArtFart spews:

    Monday, 10/23/06 at 10:30 am

    77 Actually, I’ve noticed a lot of Richard’s signs “taken down” along 140th Ave NE. Turns out it’s not really a conspiracy–it’s happening to EVERYONE’S signs–the rich homeowners’ hired gardeners are pulling them up when they mow the planting strips.

  86. 265

    RightEqualsStupid spews:

    Monday, 10/23/06 at 10:41 am

    http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/.....ource=mypi

    Flexible ?

    Sounds like Bush now wants to “Cut and Run.”

    Why is it cut and run when we say it’s a good idea and “flexible” when the Bush regime says it’s a good idea? I know I know, situational ethics abound in the GOP!

  87. 266

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 10/23/06 at 10:43 am

    71

    Funneeeee!!! Thanks for the laugh.

  88. 267

    Mike Barer spews:

    Monday, 10/23/06 at 10:45 am

    If nothing else, vote for Darcy Burner because Darcy is a cute name!

  89. 268

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 10/23/06 at 10:52 am

    71 (continued)

    Wingnuts don’t think. They’re freewheeling motor mouths.

  90. 269

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 10/23/06 at 10:53 am

    72

    Republicans have us beat. Democrats don’t fuck their dogs.

  91. 270

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 10/23/06 at 10:54 am

    73

    Like hell – that was all paid for by Medicaid.

  92. 271

    ArtFart spews:

    Monday, 10/23/06 at 11:00 am

    60 CARL! Take a deep breath.

    Klake isn’t worthy of expending that much engergy.

  93. 272

    GBS spews:

    Monday, 10/23/06 at 12:52 pm

    The JCH good riddance countdown calendar is running:

    Only 15 days left until the Dems win control of CONGRESS!

    Buh-bye, JCH

  94. 273

    headless lucy spews:

    Monday, 10/23/06 at 2:18 pm

    re 76: Do you really think you know who I am? I called Puddy and Pac-Man on their use of the race card to push their agenda. You can butt out, MWS, ‘cuz it’s a family affair. I’ve been listening and laughing at you guys about that for quite some time now!

  95. 274

    GBS spews:

    Monday, 10/23/06 at 3:10 pm

    JCH @ 85:

    Naaahhhhh, the answers to my problems, and America’s, will be determined on Nov. 7th.

    Tick, tock, tick, tock buhhhhhh-bye.

  96. 275

    Doctor JCH Kennedy, ESQ spews:

    Monday, 10/23/06 at 5:31 pm

    In two weeks, GBS, you may not post without DR JCH Kennedy, ESQ’s permission! Book it!!

  97. 276

    Puddybud spews:

    Monday, 10/23/06 at 9:14 pm

    Lucelips@102. You ain’t my family. U a racist loooooser!

    Bwahhhhhhhhhhhhh – bye

  98. 277

    online metronome spews:

    Thursday, 10/26/06 at 4:05 pm

    Hello!
    metronome information

  99. 278

    hoodia hoodia spews:

    Tuesday, 10/31/06 at 5:12 pm

    rector masters!Sana:clarifications attuned?determinate

“The David Goldstein Show” tonight on Newsradio 710-KIRO

by Goldy — Sunday, 10/15/06, 5:24 pm

The Seahawks won, my beloved Eagles lost, so what better way to both celebrate and mourn then to tune in to “The David Goldstein Show” tonight on Newsradio 710-KIRO, 7PM to 10PM.

7PM: Are we in the midst of a netroots revolution? I’ll be joined by netroots pioneer Jerome Armstrong, founder of MyDD, and co-author with Daily Kos founder Markos Moulitsas of “Crashing the Gate: Netroots, Grasroots, and the Rise of People-Powered Politics,” which has just been released in paperback. Armstrong and I will talk about the rise of the Netroots, how they’re transforming the media and the Democratic Party, and what type of impact these strategies are having on the 2006 midterm election. Armstrong is also a top advisor to former VA Gov. Mark Warner, and we’ll be chatting about Warner’s surprising announcement this week that he will not run for president in 2008.

8PM: Who would Jesus evict? For over 40 years a small community of ministers, missionaries and church workers — mostly now retired — have built homes on small residential lots leased from the Cedar Springs Bible Camp. But after a recent takeover of the Camp’s board of directors, local mega-church preacher and McGavick advisor Pastor Joe Fuiten has sought to terminate these leases, and evict the residents. Camp resident Jim West joins me to talk about the resident’s predicament, and how Fuiten and his attorneys have sought to bleed them dry.

9PM: Are you ready to vote? The absentee ballots drop this week, and 80 percent of WA voters will cast their ballots before election day. Tune in for an election round-up, and let me hear about the races and issues that are most important to you.

Tune in tonight (or listen to the live stream) and give me a call: 1-877-710-KIRO (5476).

UPDATE:
Darcy Burner needs your help! Click here to learn how and why, or simply give a few bucks directly through my Act Blue page.

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  1. 279

    RightEqualsStupid spews:

    Sunday, 10/15/06 at 5:34 pm

    Just got great news! My crazy old coot of a neighbor is voting for Cantwell! He said the world doesn’t need another insurance lobbyist in the Senate. This neighbor says he’s never voted for a Democrat in his life!

    Doesn’t bode well for Alaska’s US Senatorial Candidate Mikey!

  2. 280

    Doctor JCH Kennedy, ESQ spews:

    Sunday, 10/15/06 at 5:35 pm

    “Where’s ma mofo guvment check? Where’s my mofo FEMA trailer? Where’s ma mofo Red Cross Credit Card? Dat mofo Bush causes da earthquake like he causes Katrina!! Eyes gosta gets da KFC, da Black Velvet, and da King Cobra!! Youse owes me!!” [Alive in Hawaii]

  3. 281

    FreeSpeech spews:

    Sunday, 10/15/06 at 6:09 pm

    But wait. I thought Clownstein was classified as a terorrist and he was going to be tortured. Yet his blog is still here. Yet his radio show is still on the air.

  4. 282

    FreeSpeech spews:

    Sunday, 10/15/06 at 6:11 pm

    Hey liberals, please GIVE ALL YOU CAN TO DARCY!! Mortgage your homes, sell your car, your kids and your wives!!! Send more money to Darcy right now!
    The titanic is going down and only boatloads of cash can stop the sinking ship.

  5. 283

    John Barelli spews:

    Sunday, 10/15/06 at 6:28 pm

    Commentby FreeSpeech— 10/15/06@ 6:11 pm

    “The titanic is going down and only boatloads of cash can stop the sinking ship.”

    From being a complete unknown to getting up to a statistical dead heat, this “sinking ship” is doing pretty well.

    Regardless of the eventual outcome (and since I don’t live in the 8th, I really don’t get much of a say in the matter) we Democrats have won something here.

    The Republicans have had to send “boatloads of cash” to hold onto this seat (which is still in question). All that cash is being used to hold onto a “safe” Republican seat, and is not being used to support more marginal races.

    Just a few months ago, we were talking of making “inroads into the Republican majority” in the House, and “gaining a few Senate seats”.

    Now, the question seems to be how big a majority we’ll have in the House, and whether we can take control of the Senate, or if we’ll have to settle for a 50/50 tie with Vice President Cheney casting a bunch of deciding votes and having to seriously consider the opinions of the moderate Republicans.

    So, even if she loses the race, we win, and if she wins the race, we win big.

    Feels pretty good.

  6. 284

    Edwine spews:

    Sunday, 10/15/06 at 6:34 pm

    Old immortals don’t die, they just… don’t.

  7. 285

    Anonymous spews:

    Sunday, 10/15/06 at 6:35 pm

    She’d have to get $4424 every hour for the next 17.5 hours to catch up to her goal… get your booze and bitch money out Seattle liberals, and send it off to Darcy!

  8. 286

    Anonymous spews:

    Sunday, 10/15/06 at 6:37 pm

    Goldies $5 from each of his 12 groupies just ain’t gonna do it!

  9. 287

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 10/15/06 at 6:53 pm

    4

    Unfortunately for you unpatriotic, America-hating, Nazi pigfuckers, Darcy’s race is not a must-win for our side. This will be a blow-out! We’ll win the House with twenty seats to spare! The only place you alien space slime are going is back to Andromeda.

  10. 288

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 10/15/06 at 6:54 pm

    8

    WSDP raised $750,000 for the recount in the Gregoire-Rossi race in three days.

  11. 289

    Anonymous spews:

    Sunday, 10/15/06 at 7:40 pm

    the queen bitch got a bunch of that money from the loser kerry.

  12. 290

    Anonymous spews:

    Sunday, 10/15/06 at 7:41 pm

    goldstein, you cowardly asshole, talk about what it will mean to the democrat party when you FAIL to take back either house.

  13. 291

    For the Clueless spews:

    Sunday, 10/15/06 at 7:42 pm

    Roger @ 10

    Or at least following their Dear Leader the codpiece-wearing chimp to Mars.

  14. 292

    Anonymous spews:

    Sunday, 10/15/06 at 7:44 pm

    ask him how many national candidate the nutroots have actually put in office, you cowardly asshole.

    talk about your maria whore when you talk about McGavick.

  15. 293

    Anonymous spews:

    Sunday, 10/15/06 at 7:45 pm

    pragmatic? shit you’ll suck whomever’s ass that will give you a glimmer of hope of power.

  16. 294

    Mark1 spews:

    Sunday, 10/15/06 at 7:48 pm

    Dosen’t say much for KIRO radio.

  17. 295

    Mark1 spews:

    Sunday, 10/15/06 at 7:50 pm

    @11 Rodent:

    Recount? You meant to say stealing elctions with buddy Dean “Incompetence” Logan’s help right? At least be honest, like when you endorse your gov’t cheese checks.

  18. 296

    Anonymous spews:

    Sunday, 10/15/06 at 7:51 pm

    Dimwit
    Asshole
    Reguritating
    Commie
    Yackety-yak

    Belicose
    Uttering
    Rabid
    Nancy’s
    Empty
    Rhetoric

  19. 297

    Anonymous spews:

    Sunday, 10/15/06 at 7:56 pm

    ask old jerome how man copies they sold.

    LMAO, of course, that’s why he’s there

    it’s #96,434 on Amazon LMAO

  20. 298

    Anonymous spews:

    Sunday, 10/15/06 at 7:57 pm

    aks jerome what happens when the democrats LOSE?
    Talk about your relevance then you cowardly asshole.

  21. 299

    Anonymous spews:

    Sunday, 10/15/06 at 7:58 pm

    if the Republicans end up wiping out the democrats nationally, where does that leave the liberal party of smarmy assholes?

    come on you cowardly asshole.

  22. 300

    Anonymous spews:

    Sunday, 10/15/06 at 7:59 pm

    IF
    IF
    IF
    IF
    IF

  23. 301

    Anonymous spews:

    Sunday, 10/15/06 at 7:59 pm

    goldstein is a coward

  24. 302

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 10/15/06 at 8:03 pm

    I believe Riechert has enough to overcome the illegal democrat votes and the uncounted military ballots to win. Everyone knows that KCRE will rig this election in favor of Darcy. For Dary to win she would at least have to get 48% of the legitimate vote which I dont think she has.

  25. 303

    LeftTurn spews:

    Sunday, 10/15/06 at 8:19 pm

    Looks like we’re getting news that RubberStampReichert let the Green River Killer go for two decades because Davie liked to jack off over the pictures of the dead girls.

  26. 304

    a nanomouse spews:

    Sunday, 10/15/06 at 8:26 pm

    Excuse me while I say every dirty word I can think of in support of my party, the party of pedophile enablement, the GOP.

  27. 305

    phenteramine spews:

    Sunday, 10/15/06 at 8:39 pm

    Word to Conservatives: “Everything you Know is Wrong”
    “Given such severe cognitive deficits, Conservatives are prone to perseveration on a pathological level. Sadly, it’s all too easy to reduce the substance of Conservative arguments to these simple terms:

    *Hillary
    *Tax and spend Liberals
    *You hate America
    *Liberal Media
    *Bill Clinton lied about a blow job
    *Big Government
    *Personal Responsibility
    *Socialistic Program
    *From my cold dead hands
    *Gays are destroying the country”

  28. 306

    Yes spews:

    Sunday, 10/15/06 at 9:12 pm

    Just gave $25.00 to Darcy! You go girl!

  29. 307

    phenteramine spews:

    Sunday, 10/15/06 at 9:16 pm

    re 27: Then how did Reichert win in the first place?

  30. 308

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 10/15/06 at 9:19 pm

    re 27: Then how did Reichert win in the first place?

    Commentby phenteramine— 10/15/06@ 9:16 pm

    Because there were no 2nd or 3rd recounts.

  31. 309

    K spews:

    Sunday, 10/15/06 at 10:38 pm

    A lot of venom without substance, anon. You must be quite worried.

  32. 310

    phenteramine spews:

    Sunday, 10/15/06 at 10:58 pm

    NUKULAR NUKULAR NUKULAR

  33. 311

    Janet S spews:

    Sunday, 10/15/06 at 11:05 pm

    So the Democrat leadership sings the praises of a known sexual predator, and you all think that is just fine. Ted Kennedy thinks Gerry Studds was a hero because he sexually molested a 17 year old page. Of course, Ted caused the death of a young woman, so he is certainly no paragon. And Barney Frank, another singer of praise for the scum, ran a prostitution ring out of his apartment. Neither faced any kind of punishment.

    Why is Studds such a hero for homosexuals, but Foley is a pariah? I just don’t get the contradiction. Care to explain?

  34. 312

    Janet S spews:

    Sunday, 10/15/06 at 11:12 pm

    Just out of curiosity, what is the listenership for Goldy’s show? In numbers or in percentage of audience? If you become a commercial success, will you have to stop fundraising for candidates?

  35. 313

    changingamerica spews:

    Sunday, 10/15/06 at 11:13 pm

    37…

    Because FOLEY IS A PEDOPHILE.

    Studds was gay.

    Don’t confuse the two.

    Oh, and Laura Bush killed a man, too.

    Her husband has killed nearly 3,000 of our youth and over 1/2 million Iraqis.

    So, step off your moral high-horse and climb under it, okay?

  36. 314

    FreeSpeech spews:

    Sunday, 10/15/06 at 11:25 pm

    “Armstrong is also a top advisor to former VA Gov. Mark Warner, and we’ll be chatting about Warner’s surprising announcement this week that he will not run for president in 2008.”

    ha ha ha ha ha

    Sounds like this fellow wasn’t such a good advisor.

  37. 315

    FreeSpeech spews:

    Sunday, 10/15/06 at 11:40 pm

    @39

    ” Because FOLEY IS A PEDOPHILE.

    Studds was gay.

    Don’t confuse the two.

    Oh, and Laura Bush killed a man, too.

    Her husband has killed nearly 3,000 of our youth and over 1/2 million Iraqis.

    So, step off your moral high-horse and climb under it, okay? “

    You mean a pedophile like Democrat Neil Goldschmidt?

    And you are being modest about Democrat scum. Ted Kennedy killed Mary Joe Kopecne and he is STILL in office. Laura Bush isn’t an elected representative, so to compare Ted Kennedy’s murder of Mary Joe Kopechne to an accident Laura Bush had at 17 years of age is a nonsequiter.

    Let’s compare and contrast shall we?

    Laura Bush – Not an elected representative of Congress. Had a car accident at 17 years of age. She immediately contacted authorities for help. Her boyfriend died in the car. If we are going to crucify all 17 yr olds that make mistakes, I doubt many people will be around.

    Ted Kennedy – 37 Yr old who had served his first term as US Senator when he drove off a bridge after a cocktail party. He waited 10 hours before contacting police about the “accident” so he could confer with his lawyers about what he was going to tell the authorities. Some experts say that Mary Joe had an air pocket and may have been alive for as long as 2 hours – plenty of time for a rescue – had Democrat Senator Ted Kennedy contacted authorities.

    You liberals think if you tell the same lie over and over again, it will sink in. The only think that sinks in is the stench of pushing the bounds of credulity to claim that an accident by a 17 yr old who had the good sense to notify authorities immediately was somehow morally equivalent to the deliberate actions of a 37 yr old US Senator who waited 10 hours before contacting authorities.

  38. 316

    FreeSpeech spews:

    Sunday, 10/15/06 at 11:45 pm

    @36,

    “NUKULAR NUKULAR NUKULAR”

    That hate keeps you warm at night doesn’t it?

    ;)

  39. 317

    FreeSpeech spews:

    Sunday, 10/15/06 at 11:46 pm

    “Just gave $25.00 to Darcy! You go girl!”

    Is that all? You cheapskate! Dig deeper! More money to the titanic! More money – do it for me!

  40. 318

    Pudddybud spews:

    Monday, 10/16/06 at 5:29 am

    Commentby FreeSpeech— 10/15/06@ 6:11 pm “The titanic is going down and only boatloads of cash can stop the sinking ship.” From being a complete unknown to getting up to a statistical dead heat, this “sinking ship” is doing pretty well. Regardless of the eventual outcome (and since I don’t live in the 8th, I really don’t get much of a say in the matter) we Democrats have won something here. Commentby John Barelli— 10/15/06@ 6:28 pm

    John, you and other moonbats have changed your tune! Amazing how an editorial in the local librul MSM recognizes Darcy is an empty suit/skirt/mom/! BWAAAAA HA HA HA HA

  41. 319

    Pudddybud spews:

    Monday, 10/16/06 at 5:35 am

    WSDP raised $750,000 for the recount in the Gregoire-Rossi race in three days. Commentby Roger Rabbit— 10/15/06@ 6:54 pm

    Awww come on Pelletizer. You can’t fool old Puddy with this crap. THE DNCC AND JOHN KERRY sent most of the bucks to Fraudoire.

    From the Internet; you find it Pelletizer:

    “The November 2004 election in Washington State generated one of the closest gubernatorial races in modern history. Republican candidate Dino Rossi led the election with only 261 votes, triggering an automatic statewide machine recount. Washington State law “requires a machine recount when the margin is less than 2,000 votes” (Cook). This process took several weeks, and on November 24, the results came in. The gap between the two candidates narrowed, with only 42 votes in Rossi’s favor (McGann). This traditionally “blue” (Democrat) state of voters elected the Republican underdog with the “tiniest margin in state history” (Ammons). According to state law, a candidate has the option of requesting a second recount, at the political party’s personal expense. Democrats scrambled to meet the estimated $750,000 or more needed funds by the December 2 deadline. Gregoire advised the party to raise the funds for a statewide recount (as opposed to select counties), or she would concede. In the 11th hour and with the help of notables John Kerry and the Democratic National Committee, the Gregoire campaign handed the Secretary of State a check and ordered the hand recount. In addition, the party appealed to the state Supreme Court, asking to count previously disqualified votes”

  42. 320

    PudwackerSuxMWS spews:

    Monday, 10/16/06 at 6:03 am

    funny how HA gets jammed with spam each time janet/pam, freedrivel/anonmyass/kevin, rufass and pudwacker throw up on the same thread. It’s Fun Watching The GOP House Of Smoke, Mirrors, Snake Oil And Cons Imploding!

  43. 321

    Bussy spews:

    Monday, 10/16/06 at 6:23 am

    There IS intelligent life in the universe. It ignores us.

  44. 322

    Mike Webb Sucks spews:

    Monday, 10/16/06 at 6:41 am

    LeftTurdHead@52: Here is one for ya:

    http://www.nypost.com/seven/10.....berman.htm

    Once again libruls hate being called out. We call it free speech.

    “The move from one potential 2008 presidential candidate to another was sparked by a column in The New York Times, in which Maureen Dowd quoted an anonymous adviser talking about McCain’s criticism of the Clintons over their North Korea position.

    The adviser said Team Clinton thought McCain was doing the White House’s dirty work by criticizing the Clintons and ended up “looking similar to the way he did on those captive tapes from Hanoi, where he recited the names of his crewmates.” ”

    Figures Maureen Moonbat! Dowd would talk up some anonymous adviser!

  45. 323

    Mike Webb Sucks spews:

    Monday, 10/16/06 at 6:49 am

    Defeatocrats: Rolls right off the tongue!

  46. 324

    Mike Webb Sucks spews:

    Monday, 10/16/06 at 6:53 am

    Let me say again: Bbankruptcy======Scare America. Rolls right off the tongue.smoke

    I wonder if they’ll replace “Pat” and Gunsmoke?

  47. 325

    Mike Webb Sucks spews:

    Monday, 10/16/06 at 6:57 am

    Now isn’t this quaint?

    “Republican-oriented tax lobbyists are interpreting late-campaign solicitations as a requirement for a ticket to enter the office of Rep. Charles Rangel as chairman of the Ways and Means Committee in a Democratic-controlled House. Both free-lance and corporate lobbyists have received telephone solicitations for Rangel’s leadership PAC (political action committee), which distributes funds to Democratic congressional candidates who need them. Rangel is virtually unopposed in his Harlem district. The lobbyists, who give almost exclusively to Republicans, are told that the contribution would be ”a nice gesture for Charlie.””

    http://www.suntimes.com/news/n.....15.article

  48. 326

    Mike Webb Sucks spews:

    Monday, 10/16/06 at 7:03 am

    Looks like Harry Smelly Lan Deal Reid is going to get an investigation:

    http://www.nypost.com/seven/10.....rissey.htm

  49. 327

    Daddy Love spews:

    Monday, 10/16/06 at 7:08 am

    Reichert was 13 points ahead of Darcy in August. She has closed that gap to what as of the last couple of polls is a virtual dead heat.

    New polls may show even more gains, don’t you think? After all, Dead Ass Reichert doesn’t have the Mo. His debate performance certainly won’t win him any fans. He is at his ceiling, and Darcy is not.

  50. 328

    Mike Webb Sucks spews:

    Monday, 10/16/06 at 7:11 am

    I read some of Goldie’s supporters are taking heed and leaving the US. http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52460

    2nd warning for Muslims to leave U.S. before attack
    ‘Because Allah’s punishment would fall on America in the month of Ramadan’

  51. 329

    Daddy Love spews:

    Monday, 10/16/06 at 7:19 am

    60 MWS

    Agaiin, there’s no”there” there. And you should really wean yourself from conservative op-eds as a source of news. Umm, they’re not. I still don’t understand the conservative fixation on quoting other peole’s op-eds as though their opiniosn weer fact. Can’t you come up with your own opinions?

    Anyway, land swaps are a way to get more land into wilderness protection by swapping public land in a non-wilderness state (typically near urban boundaries) for private land in wilderness areas. It’s a way to avoid the eminent domain abuse you guys complain abotu so much.

    The funny thing is, your op-ed doesn’t even support your assertion that Reid is “going to get an investigation.” It states truthfully (surprise!) that he is restating his disclosure to clear up the ownership of the land he sold. Bt while the op-ed calls for an investigation, none is reported.

    My guess is that with the Democrats about to take the House and possibly the Senate, the Ethics Committee is not about to give the possible new Senate Majority Leader a black eye just for the fun of it. What do you think, MWS?

  52. 330

    Mike Webb Sucks spews:

    Monday, 10/16/06 at 7:19 am

    Extra, extra read all about it: http://www.howtheleftwaswon.com/

    How The Left Was Won – An In-Depth Analysis of the Tools and Methodologies Used by Liberals to Undermine Society and Disrupt the Social Order

    ● Promote and Exploit Divisiveness: Learn why liberals should thank God every day for differences between people and how without them, liberalism would be dead in the water.

    ● Bad Competition: Learn why practically all liberal policies create success only through the impairment of others and exactly where this dynamic must necessarily lead.

    ● Relevancy and Proportion: See why the vast majority of what liberals say has absolutely no meaning whatsoever and learn a simple way to prove it every time.

    ● Implicit Assumptions: Explore the assumptions liberals use to shape public policy and see why the arguments supporting them are ultimately nothing more than a house of cards

    ● Groupdividual: Find out how liberalism has distorted the differences between groups and individuals and why this continued distortion is the basis for all flawed social policies within the United States.

    ● The Perpetual Motion Machine: Learn how the vast majority of liberal programs are based on the scientific impossibility of getting something for nothing.

    ● A Swarm of Ants: Find out the real reason liberalism continues to permeate more and more elements of our society and why there just may be no way of stopping it.

  53. 331

    Daddy Love spews:

    Monday, 10/16/06 at 7:21 am

    Seaking of HA HA HA, how funny is someone calling the Seattle Times the “local librul MSM?”

  54. 332

    PudwackerSuxMWS spews:

    Monday, 10/16/06 at 7:21 am

    61
    how can you say such a statement? Dildo Dave has the endorsements of such exemplary genious txpes such as: Pudwacker/MWS, janet the Roach, MTR, RoughAss, K Carns, Michael the Muck, J Queen etc. With outstanding wingnuts like these… What more do you need?

  55. 333

    Daddy Love spews:

    Monday, 10/16/06 at 7:22 am

    MWS

    You’re right, there is no way of stopping it.

  56. 334

    Janet S spews:

    Monday, 10/16/06 at 7:54 am

    changingamerica – I’m still trying to figure out why Studds, a democrat, who actually physically molests a 17 year old page is just another homosexual, but Foley, a republican, is a pedophile because he sent a suggestive email, but never touched a page.

    This is such an affront to the gay community, I can’t believe no one has called you on it.

    I guess it shows just what the values are of the lefties on this site.

  57. 335

    headless lucy spews:

    Monday, 10/16/06 at 8:08 am

    Another reason that the Times endorsed Reichert is that if Burner wins it further shows the irrelevance of the old order. They are not going down without a fight. Lieberman got knocked on his ass the same way as Reichert eventually will. It’s all about citizen empowermwnt and if you Righties can’t get behind that then the accusations we’ve made thqat you are tools of the corporatist state are true.

    As for me, I’m going to be making calls for Burner tonight. I doubt that anyone in the Blethen family will be calling for Reichert. People like me always win out in the end. If you don’t believe me, just ask Leiberman.

  58. 336

    headless lucy spews:

    Monday, 10/16/06 at 8:11 am

    I am fighting for a world where the leader of the free world is not such a moron that he can not spell or pronounce the word , “nuclear”.

    NUKULAR. I hate that…

  59. 337

    John Barelli spews:

    Monday, 10/16/06 at 8:14 am

    Commentby Pudddybud— 10/16/06@ 5:29 am

    “John, you and other moonbats have changed your tune!”

    No, I recall a number of the “other moonbats”, including Goldy, saying pretty much the same thing.

    Of course, we’d like to win and still think we’ve got a pretty good chance in this race. But every time Goldy puts out a pitch for more help here, he’s pretty clear that this race is not a sure thing. You Constitution-hating rednecks may get to keep this seat, no matter what we do.

    But… To keep this one, you’ll have to send “boatloads of cash” that will then be unavailable for last-minute sliming campaigns against other Democrats, and if you do keep this one, what do you get? A non-entity that has no real purpose other than to vote the party line. He’ll be pretty harmless as long as he’s in the minority party.

    So, even if we lose this one, we win, and we might still win. After all, we really like Darcy, and from what I can tell, Mr. Reichert’s main draw for you folks is the “R” after his name. So we’ll keep helping Darcy, and you folks just keep outspending us three or four to one.

    And we hope you enjoy being the minority party just as much as we have. We promise that we’ll cooperate with you just as much as you have with us.

  60. 338

    Blue Cougar spews:

    Monday, 10/16/06 at 8:15 am

    janet/roach, Studds came out of his closet, Foley tried (and succeeded) to entice young boys into his. All upper level GOPers were aware of Foley and the did nothing. (like the other famous CHIMPS: see no evil, hear no evil and speak no evil). Doesn’t it seem strange to ‘nuts like yourself that Your commander ‘n thief stopped all communication with the GOPredator in 2004?

  61. 339

    halloween spews:

    Monday, 10/16/06 at 8:30 am

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  62. 340

    headless lucy spews:

    Monday, 10/16/06 at 8:59 am

    Give Peace A Chance
    John Lennon & Paul McCartney
    Two, one two three four
    Ev’rybody’s talking about
    Bagism, Shagism, Dragism, Madism, Ragism, Tagism
    This-ism, that-ism, is-m, is-m, is-m.
    All we are saying is give peace a chance
    All we are saying is give peace a chance
    C’mon
    Ev’rybody’s talking about Ministers,
    Sinisters, Banisters and canisters
    Bishops and Fishops and Rabbis and Pop eyes,
    And bye bye, bye byes.
    All we are saying is give peace a chance
    All we are saying is give peace a chance
    Let me tell you now
    Ev’rybody’s talking about
    Revolution, evolution, masturbation,
    flagellation, regulation, integrations,
    meditations, United Nations,
    Congratulations.
    All we are saying is give peace a chance
    All we are saying is give peace a chance
    Ev’rybody’s talking about
    John and Yoko, Timmy Leary, Rosemary,
    Tommy Smothers, Bobby Dylan, Tommy Cooper,
    Derek Taylor, Norman Mailer,
    Alan Ginsberg, Hare Krishna,
    Hare, Hare Krishna
    All we are saying is give peace a chance
    All we are saying is give peace a chance
    etc.

  63. 341

    Janet S spews:

    Monday, 10/16/06 at 9:08 am

    Headless – you keep talking about Lieberman. Have you seen the polls lately? Looks like he will have the last laugh, and retain his Senate seat. Lamont will be a footnote in history, and just one more piece of evidence that Netroots can’t get anyone elected.

  64. 342

    K spews:

    Monday, 10/16/06 at 9:27 am

    @65

    I stopped reading your post at point #1. Promote divisiveness is the Republican’s primary technique for getting out their base.

    Start with a lie, and make the rest of your post irrelevant.

  65. 343

    K spews:

    Monday, 10/16/06 at 10:00 am

    So let me get this straight, it’s outrageous that Burner is “running against Bush”, while it’s perfectly OK for Reichart to run against Pelosi?

    “Voters need to ask the question: Will Darcy Burner do Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi’s bidding in Congress?” opined Tebelius, referring to the Democrats’ challenger in the 8th District.

    Could someone explain?

  66. 344

    Janet S spews:

    Monday, 10/16/06 at 10:08 am

    K – Burner has made it a central campaign issue that Dave Reichert votes Republican. The implication is that she would be an independent vote. But what evidence is there of that? She has offered none. Now she has Pelosi campaigning for her, and talking about being her mentor.

    So, now we have a Democrat candidate who would vote with the Democrat party. What is the country coming to?

    And to think we accused Darcy of having a vapid campaign.

  67. 345

    RightEqualsStupid spews:

    Monday, 10/16/06 at 10:11 am

    Pam Roach aka Janet S if you’d stop drinking long enough to sober up you’d quit being so fucking stoooopid.

    Who says the implication of Darcy’s ad is that she’d be an independent vote? YOU? Who the fuck do you think you are. How about this?

    The implication is that George Bush has ruined our country. He’s destroyed our Constitution. He’s sent us into a quagmire in Iraq wasting billions of tax dollars and America doesn’t like it. And they don’t like Bush. So a vote for RubberStampReichert is a vote to continue Bush’s policies. That’s the implication.

    But hey I don’t expect you to tell the truth. You’re a fucking republican. You were born to lie.

  68. 346

    Daddy Love spews:

    Monday, 10/16/06 at 10:14 am

    70 Janet S

    Not that you would tar everyone with the same brush, would you?

    In strictly medical terms, pedophilia is the paraphilia of being sexually attracted primarily or exclusively to prepubescent or peripubescent children. However, in contrast to the generally accepted medical definition, the term pedophile is also very commonly used colloquially to denote significantly older adults who are sexually attracted to adolescents below the local age of consent, as well as those who have sexually abused a child.

    Regarding such usage, you may be able to point out quite correctly that they do not exactly correspond to current medical usage, but the colloquial usage is nonetheless both valid and useful to characterize an unacceptable behavior.

    Regarding “Studds, a democrat, who actually physically molests a 17 year old page” being “just another homosexual,” no one has said so but you. However, Gerry Studds, who had his affair with a 17-year-old page in 1973 (over the DC age of consent), continued the relationship with the same person for at least a decade (through his censure in 1983).

    Foley, on the other hand, harasses page after page after page, which is EXACTLY the behavior the the House Page Board was set up to prevent, is EXACTLY the sort of behavior that Dennis Haster, upon learning of it either in 2000, 2003, or November 2005 should have IMMEDIATELY reported to the House Page Board to investigate or investigated himself. It is the case in point of the irresponsible House leaders leaving our young people unprotected when it is their responsibility to protect them.

    “ephebophilia”

  69. 347

    RightEqualsStupid spews:

    Monday, 10/16/06 at 10:15 am

    Notice how the right has to go back 20 years to drag up stuff to defend their chief ped Foley? Well if you want to play that game, let’s talk about the crook Trickie Dickie – you know, disgraced and run out of office because he’s a common crook. You righties defended him so I guess that means you’re all crooks.

    Let’s be clear. We don’t know how much sex Foley had with these kids but we do know he had sex with them. Whether or not they were minors at the time will define whether or not he’s a ped in that sense. But thanks to a law that FOLEY helped sponsor, his actions would be considered a felony WHETHER OR NOT he ever touched a kid.

    Too bad Janet S aka Pam Roach’s kids weren’t the ones giving Foley a blowjob. Wonder how she’d feel about it then?

  70. 348

    Daddy Love spews:

    Monday, 10/16/06 at 10:16 am

    Why do wee need to kick the Republicans out of Congress, and get Democrats in (vote for Darcy)?

    Here’s why

    When Bill Clinton was president, the House took 140 hours of sworn testimony into whether Mr. Clinton had used the White House Christmas list to identify possible Democratic donors. But in 2004 and 2005, a House committee took only 12 hours of testimony on the abuses at Abu Ghraib.

    No reponsibility. No oversight. No accountability.

    Had enough yet?

    ]\

  71. 349

    Daddy Love spews:

    Monday, 10/16/06 at 10:18 am

    80 janet S

    “The implication is” that she would be a vote to hold this lying, incompetent administration accountable for its failures and its corruption. As Dave Reichert CLEARLY won’t.

  72. 350

    RightEqualsStupid spews:

    Monday, 10/16/06 at 10:21 am

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15289493/from/RS.2/

    Another crushing blow to the right – Man it must suck to be a republican these days.

  73. 351

    Daddy Love spews:

    Monday, 10/16/06 at 10:26 am

    77 Janet S.

    “ Netroots can’t get anyone elected”

    Wrong. Although it would be totally correct to say that the netroots cannot get everyone elected.

    But the netroots played a pivotal role in the elections of Stephanie Herseth, Ben Chandler, and Barack Obama.

    Russ Levsen, communications director for Herseth, confirmed that the netroots played a major part in her special election victory. We definitely benefited from the activism, the support online … and a lot of people coming out to South Dakota because they believed in Stephanie’s campaign,” Levsen said.

    Jennifer Spalding, a Chandler spokeswoman, said the Democratic netroots played a “critical role” in her boss’s special election victory.

    Guess what? The “netroots” may or may not succeed in electing Ned Lamont to a Senate seat. But they knocked Holy Joe out of the Democratic primary.

  74. 352

    Janet S spews:

    Monday, 10/16/06 at 10:28 am

    Seen the stock market lately? Seen the unemployment rate? Too bad the President has run this economy into the ground. Better start those committee hearings as soon as possible to put a stop to economic growth. Why worry about real issues like Social Security and Terrorism when you can drag administration officials in front of kangaroo committees and endlessly pontificate?

    A vote for Darcy is a vote for more global warming – from all the new hot air that will be generated in Wash DC.

  75. 353

    headless lucy spews:

    Monday, 10/16/06 at 10:29 am

    re 83: And let’s not forget local Young Republican favorite, Ted Bundy.

  76. 354

    headless lucy spews:

    Monday, 10/16/06 at 10:31 am

    re 88: Deficit Spending. False Signal. Look at the trade deficit. WORST EVER.

  77. 355

    headless lucy spews:

    Monday, 10/16/06 at 10:34 am

    Pam Roach is Janet S???!!! I thought she was Taylor Caldwell.

  78. 356

    sgmmac spews:

    Monday, 10/16/06 at 10:41 am

    Daddy,

    Barack Obama doesn’t need the netroots to get elected. All he has to do is smile!

  79. 357

    Blue Cougar spews:

    Monday, 10/16/06 at 11:08 am

    MWS @ 60
    I imagine an ivestigation into the alleged Reid situation will commence as soon as they have finished investigating Hasterts $2 million windfall from purchasing/selling land aftes he was informed of US highway construction plans.

  80. 358

    headless lucy spews:

    Monday, 10/16/06 at 11:18 am

    Republicans call what Hastert did, “Free Enterprise”.

    GOP mind > free enterprise = No Bid Contracts for Halliburton

  81. 359

    jsa on commercial drive spews:

    Monday, 10/16/06 at 1:52 pm

    Headless lucy @ 72:

    I am fighting for a world where the leader of the free world is not such a moron that he can not spell or pronounce the word , “nuclear”.

    I am certain that a nice, private-school-raised, Yale and Harvard-educated WASP boy from Connecticut can pronounce “nuclear” just fine.

    He’s pretty smart, and figured out that if you wanted to hold office in Texas, or the United States, it’s better to talk bubba than WASP.

    What it says about the electorate to believe that he’s a regular guy is another issue.

    I used to live in Austin, I can speak fluent bubba as well. I’m not running for office, so I don’t have to portray myself as anything other than a snarky urban liberal.

  82. 360

    RightEqualsStupid spews:

    Monday, 10/16/06 at 1:58 pm

    New jobs? All those new minimum wage jobs have led to a LOSS of real wage earning power under Bush. And the stock market? It took the fool six years to get it back to the point where it already was under President Clinton.

  83. 361

    ArtFart spews:

    Monday, 10/16/06 at 2:27 pm

    This might sound a little lame, but except for the stock market and the price tage I see on the stuff I personally buy, I don’t give a whole lot of credence to all the other economic “statistics” published by a government which has been controlled by the Republican crooks for more than half a decade. If they can jig up elections, they can sure as hell “adjust” such figures to say whatever they want them to.

    As to the gasoline prices (and interest rates), I expect to see them say low until about ten seconds after the last polling place closes.

  84. 362

    Mike Webb Sucks spews:

    Monday, 10/16/06 at 5:04 pm

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15289493/from/RS.2/ Another crushing blow to the right – Man it must suck to be a republican these days. Commentby RightEqualsStupid— 10/16/06@ 10:21 am

    Man you are an empty suit!

  85. 363

    Mike Webb Sucks spews:

    Monday, 10/16/06 at 5:10 pm

    61 how can you say such a statement? Dildo Dave has the endorsements of such exemplary genious txpes such as: Pudwacker/MWS, janet the Roach, MTR, RoughAss, K Carns, Michael the Muck, J Queen etc. With outstanding wingnuts like these… What more do you need? Commentby PudwackerSuxMWS— 10/16/06@ 7:21 am

    Sucker: Please post how Puddybud is me? URL proof not pulling it from your anus located single brain cell. Otherwise STFU.

  86. 364

    Mike Webb Sucks spews:

    Monday, 10/16/06 at 5:11 pm

    Sucker: Once again your posts prove the undeniable fact of moonbats: NO BRAINS!

  87. 365

    Mike Barer spews:

    Monday, 10/16/06 at 6:43 pm

    I notice that the Republicans don’t sign there names. Quite frankly, I can’t blame them.

  88. 366

    Michael Caine spews:

    Monday, 10/16/06 at 8:19 pm

    At the Seattle Times/KUOW debate your opponent, Darcy Burner, asked a question regarding a statement you made at the May 20th Mainstream Republican Breakfast, “So when the leadership comes to me and says Dave we need you take a vote over here because we want to protect you and keep this majority, I do it.” She asked Reichert if he was lying then or is he lying now about being independent. He has never answered the question. The Seattle Times never bothered to verify that he said it by going and watching his speech at:

    http://www.tvw.org/search/site.....Washington

    Instead they accused Darcy Burner of being mean-spirited by even asking the question. Never bothering to mention that Reichert’s campaign has been slandering her as a mother for months.

  89. 367

    Who Knows spews:

    Monday, 10/16/06 at 8:27 pm

    @ 102

    I don’t know what to say Mr. Caine

  90. 368

    Kiroking spews:

    Monday, 10/16/06 at 8:29 pm

    # 102

    Give to the Darcy Fund…..Darcy NEEDS more people like you !!1

    Give Give Give, till you can give no more…..Darcy NEEDS YOU!!

“The David Goldstein Show” tonight on Newsradio 710-KIRO

by Goldy — Sunday, 10/8/06, 2:31 pm

The Seahawks are off today and I’m back with a vengeance, so strap on your helmut and get ready to butt heads with me on an action-packed “The David Goldstein Show” tonight on Newsradio 710-KIRO, 7PM to 10PM.

7PM: Is the Republican Party in the midst of major meltdown? University of Maryland associate professor of political science Thomas Schaller joins me to discuss the latest developments in the Mark Foley House Page scandal, and the impact it is having on Capitol Hill and in congressional races nationwide. Schaller’s just released new book, “Whistling Past Dixie: How Democrats Can Win Without the South” seems downright prescient in light the suddenly competitive races in WA-05, ID-01 and other supposed Republican strongholds in the rural West.

8PM: Peace activist Cindy Sheehan joins me to talk about her new book, “Peace Mom: A Mother’s Journey through Heartache to Activism.” Sheehan’s dramatic month-long vigil outside President Bush’s “ranch” in Crawford, TX transformed her from a grieving mom into the symbol of a nascent anti-war movement, ultimately focusing national attention on the moral implications of our war in Iraq. Sheehan is one of those unusual figures who generates both heartfelt praise and sometimes vicious, hateful criticism. If you’ve got a question for the controversial activist, here’s your chance.

9PM: Lock your desk drawers KIRO colleagues, for local radio’s most hated snoop is in the building! Michael Hood of the much-despised, inside-radio blog blatherWatch will join me in the studio… but we won’t be engaging in any radio industry rumor mongering. Instead we’ll be discussing Rep. Dave Reichert, and his undeserved, self-inflated, law enforcement reputation. Fresh on the heals of the Seattle P-I’s excellent exploration of Reichert’s record in the King County Sheriff’s department, Hood will give us a sneak peak at his long awaited expose on “The Sheriff’s” real role in catching the Green River Killer.

Tune in tonight (or listen to the live stream) and give me a call: 1-877-710-KIRO (5476).

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  1. 369

    ManofTruth spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 2:49 pm

    Hood will give us a sneak peak at his long awaited expose on “The Sheriff’s” real role in catching the Green River Killer.

    I`m sure you really mean Rubber Stamp Reichert`s road blocking of a real investigation until it was favorable for him to “solve” the case

  2. 370

    Free Speech spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 2:56 pm

    But I thought you said you were declared a terrorist and were going to be sent to Gitmo. I thought the Rightwing Nazi’s were going to shut you down. Yet here you are, day after day on your blog and on the radio.

    You are a LIAR Clownstein – peddling fear to make yourself a media name.

  3. 371

    For the Clueless spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 3:42 pm

    Oh my dog! Everybody has to read that P-I story on Reichert…

    How can anyone vote for that empty-suit self-promoter? Must be the hair..

    Read it now!

  4. 372

    For the Clueless spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 3:47 pm

    Norm Maleng sings Reichert’s praises in that article. I’ve voted for Maleng for years.

    After Sotelo and this article – no more! Will a Democrat please step up and replace this guy?

  5. 373

    For the Clueless spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 3:52 pm

    pbj shill @ 2 –

    It’s up to Shrubya and Darth Cheney to pull the trigger on Goldy. Luckily for you this is a blue state and they probably don’t care. WA state is too away from the corruption in D.C. for those clowns to give it a second thought.

  6. 374

    LauraBushKilledAGuy spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 4:02 pm

    I think you should have the Man Boy Love Association on to find out just how many of their founding members are republicans.

  7. 375

    Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 4:27 pm

    Looks like your hero Fidel will be worm food in a few months. http://www.ibnlive.com/news/cu.....501-2.html The world will be a better place without him.

    I think we should send a batallion of women soldiers to Cuber to take over the country and continue our proud tradition of spreading freedom.

  8. 376

    Union Fireman spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 4:29 pm

    Just a quick question, if Reichert is so bad, then how come he keeps getting the endorsement(s) of First Responder organizations, while Darcy gets endorsed from the usual suspects? Added to the fact, that these endorsements come from LABOR organizations. Don’t they usually endorse dems?

  9. 377

    JDB spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 4:33 pm

    For the past five years, Sen. George Allen (news, bio, voting record), has failed to tell Congress about stock options he got for his work as a director of a high-tech company. The Virginia Republican also asked the Army to help another business that gave him similar options.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....NlYwNtdHM-

    Just keeps getting worse and worse for the GOP. I wouldn’t be surprise if some of our friendly neighborhood wingnuts blow a gasket in the next few weeks. Heck, at this point, when Karl Rove gets around to his October Surprise, no one is even going to pay attention.

  10. 378

    LauraBushKilledAGuy spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 4:37 pm

    JDB you just beat me to the punch on that one. Looks like Allen is not just a racist, he’s a crook too.

  11. 379

    For the Clueless spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 4:37 pm

    Yet another shady operator Republican is caught – this time, cheating on his taxes.

    Uh Duh…

  12. 380

    Union Fireman spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 4:40 pm

    Oh yeah, and MaMa Hate, before you start talking about how Reichert is bad, and us Firemen are to stupid to know what we are talking about when it comes to our own issues…

    http://www.iaff.org/across/new.....206DHS.htm

    Who’s name is that at the bottom? Oh yeah, it’s the guy who got endorse by the IAFF (International Association of Firefighters). Damn, don’t you hate it when you realize that your candidate couldn’t even get the endorsement of an organization that is part of the AFL-CIO.

  13. 381

    skagit spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 4:43 pm

    Union endorsements don’t tell the whole story. I’ve rarely voted with my union on many candidates . . . I will usually stick with the left but not always with an endorsed candadate.

  14. 382

    Doctor JCH Kennedy, ESQ spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 4:55 pm

    WASHINGTON – Democrats are hoping Hispanic voters will help them win control of Congress in midterm elections next month, and are promising help for immigrants in return. Turnout is historically low for this swelling segment of the US electorate, but the community showed its political potential with massive demonstrations on immigration reform earlier this year — and the Republican-controlled Congress has delivered little joy on their top issue. []……….No IDs are needed!! Just get out the illegal votes!!!!! hehe, JCH]

  15. 383

    Doctor JCH Kennedy, ESQ spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 4:55 pm

    WASHINGTON – Democrats are hoping Hispanic voters will help them win control of Congress in midterm elections next month, and are promising help for immigrants in return. Turnout is historically low for this swelling segment of the US electorate, but the community showed its political potential with massive demonstrations on immigration reform earlier this year — and the Republican-controlled Congress has delivered little joy on their top issue. []……….No IDs are needed!! Just get out the illegal votes!!!!! hehe, JCH]

  16. 384

    skagit spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 5:11 pm

    Hey, I just read that Seattle PI article and it wasn’t bad. Just the usual sour grapes from different sides . . . and some exaggerating. Par for the course for any politico or celeb!

    In fact, I was surprised that I found myself liking Reichert better than before. He’s authentic . . . he was fully invested and caring. So, he gets really intense in everything and the everything is now “politics” folks. So, he’s doing up right! He is in a political world and he’s trying to learn from the guys that are there . . . not so stupid.

    Except that he’s a little late to depend on the guys that are there . . . they’re about to be gone!

    I like the guy. Ok?

  17. 385

    My Left Foot spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 5:57 pm

    2

    I see our friend Mr Cynical is back with a new monkiker. Welcome back Cyniclown. Ye were not missed!

  18. 386

    My Left Foot spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 6:00 pm

    21 MONIKER, Dammit.

  19. 387

    LauraBushKilledAGuy spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 6:03 pm

    Ms. Cynical has never left. The name’s different but the anti-american, cowardly point of view is the same.

  20. 388

    rhp6033 spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 6:42 pm

    News Item:

    “Saturday, October 7, 2006

    5 more GOP seats found at risk in election
    Foley scandal cuts support among core groups, analysts say

    By ADAM NAGOURNEY
    THE NEW YORK TIMES

    WASHINGTON — At least five more GOP congressional seats are now in serious contention, analysts said Friday, an unwelcome development for Republicans as they begin trying to confront a political environment further darkened for them by the congressional page scandal….

    Democrats need to capture 15 House seats to take control of Congress next fall; until the last week or two, about 40 Republican seats had been judged to be in play, of which 20 had been considered to be highly competitive. But analysts said at least five more — and as many as eight — Republican seats have now swung firmly into play, as part of the general souring of the electoral environment.”

  21. 389

    rhp6033 spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 6:46 pm

    Remember Rove’s aid, the one who just resigned because she had accepted multiple gifts from Abromahoff in excess of the $20.00 limit? At first she argued that the rules didn’t apply to her, because she didn’t consider him a lobbyist, but instead considered him a “friend”.

    Gee, somehow that makes it better?

  22. 390

    rhp6033 spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 6:53 pm

    Time to ask the question Reagan made famous in 1980: Are you better off now than you were six years ago?

    Since Bush has taken office:

    The Dow Jones has taken six years to recover to the same level it held when Bush took office. The other stock indices are still below that level.

    Unemployment is higher.

    Inflation increased, and housing costs and oil have doubled (even with the latest price drop).

    Our military is directly involved in a multi-year occupation role in a mideast country with a strong insurgency.

  23. 391

    Don Joe spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 6:55 pm

    MTR,

    Are you still enamored with those unemployment numbers? Have you not also noticed that payroll figures for the same period have gone down? What does that tell you?

    By the way, the unemployment rate is a ratio, which means it has both a numerator and a denominator. One way for the unemployment rate to go down is if the denominator changes, i.e. if people actually leave the work force. Have you checked to see what any non-partisan Economists have to say these unemployment figures?

  24. 392

    LauraBushKilledAGuy spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 6:57 pm

    It must just be killing these right wing turds to be taking such a terrible beating. Personally, it’s been one of the best weeks of my life.

  25. 393

    Doctor JCH Kennedy, ESQ spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 7:04 pm

    Union endorsements don’t tell the whole story. I’ve rarely voted with my union on many candidates . . .

    Commentby skagit […..You, In a union? Gee, what a fucking surprise!!!! hehe, JCH]

  26. 394

    Doctor JCH Kennedy, ESQ spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 7:14 pm

    NUEVO LAREDO, Mexico — Mexican fishermen captured a 7.5-foot crocodile in the Rio Grande, the river that divides part of Mexico and the United States, authorities reported on Sunday. Illegal migrants from Mexico frequently swim or ride inner tubes across the Rio Grande to reach the United States. Crocodiles do not normally inhabit the river, and authorities suspect it may have been brought to the area as a pet and then… [………………………………………………Can Jewish Democrat lawyers sue crocodiles for not respecting the civil rights of illegal alien Democrats-to-be? If the coc eats the illegal Mexican, can the illegal still vote Democrat from inside the crocodile? hehe, JCH]

  27. 395

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 7:16 pm

    Oh shut up Buttnutz

  28. 396

    Doctor Maf54 Kennedy, ESQ. spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 7:16 pm

    JCH:

    Don’t worry about them Hispanics voting. We have the voting machines programed to throw out all the ethnic sounding names. Just good white people like us get to vote.

  29. 397

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 7:18 pm

    thats probibly the truth

  30. 398

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 7:25 pm

    Doctor Maf54 Kennedy, ESQ macockawitz

  31. 399

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 7:32 pm

    Doctor Maf54 Kennedy, ESQ macockawitz are u a Jeewww?

  32. 400

    Francine Busby-Democrat Cali spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 7:46 pm

    JCH:

    Don’t worry about them Hispanics voting. We have the voting machines programed to throw out all the ethnic sounding names. Just good white people like us get to vote.

    Commentby Doctor Maf54 Kennedy, ESQ.— 10/8/06@ 7:16 pm

    You tell em Maf54. And remember just because you are illegal dont mean you cant vot…. I mean help.

  33. 401

    Dan \"Whats the frequency\" Ke spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 7:48 pm

    Time to ask the question Reagan made famous in 1980: Are you better off now than you were six years ago?

    Well I am sure the hell not. But again the last six years have been tough on us lying,leftist, democratic hacks.

  34. 402

    Dan Rather spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 7:50 pm

    The Dow Jones has taken six years to recover to the same level it held when Bush took office. The other stock indices are still below that level.

    Actually it just hit a record, but we dont need to talk about it.

  35. 403

    Dan Rather spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 7:58 pm

    I wonder what the unemployment figures are for See BS,Air America, NY Times ect. The dems better do a bail out for the MSM soon because the liberal drivel isnt selling.

  36. 404

    Doctor JCH Kennedy, ESQ spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 8:33 pm

    Union companies are laying off…………WAL-MART is hiring thousands. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm……………….

  37. 405

    Doctor JCH Kennedy, ESQ spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 8:34 pm

    JCH:

    Don’t worry about them Hispanics voting. We have the voting machines programed to throw out all the ethnic sounding names. Just good white people like us get to vote.

    Commentby Doctor Maf54 Kennedy, ESQ.— [……….No ID, no vote. That should trim the illegal Democrat votes by a few million.]

  38. 406

    Doctor JCH Kennedy, ESQ spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 8:38 pm

    Havana – The ailing Fidel Castro is not dying but is recovering from an illness, his younger brother and Cuba’s acting president said Sunday in response to rumors that the leader was on his deathbed. /break/ ”He is not dying like some of the press in Miami is saying,” Raul Castro told a youth congress in Havana. ”He is constantly getting better.” The younger Castro said Fidel has a telephone next to him ”and he’s using it more and more every day.” […………Organs may be needed to save “progressive” Fidel. Francine Busby-Democrat Cali, Why not donate anything but your brain for the “progressive [communist] cause???]

  39. 407

    Doctor JCH Kennedy, ESQ spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 8:39 pm

    The Dow Jones has taken six years to recover to the same level it held when Bush took office. The other stock indices are still below that level.

    Actually it just hit a record, but we dont need to talk about it.

    Commentby Dan Rather […………..Dan, 9/11 never happened, but if it did, Nancy Pelosi has assured us that Bush and Newt were flying the planes.]

  40. 408

    Dan Rather spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 8:40 pm

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....ke08m.html

    Give this guy a key to the city. He doing the job the police should be doing. I wonder if this guy cast his ballot before he got plugged? Well if he didnt I am sure the KCRE will cast one for him.

  41. 409

    Dan Rather spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 8:44 pm

    How much do you want to bet the crime around Westlake will go way down in the next couple months. It is amazing what one gun and one bullet can do to cut crime. heehehe

  42. 410

    K spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 8:50 pm

    Good job, George W. We now know where the WMD are-

    SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — North Korea said Monday it has performed its first-ever nuclear weapons test. The country’s official Korean Central News Agency said the test was performed successfully and there was no radioactive leakage from the site.

  43. 411

    Dan Rather spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 8:53 pm

    Good job, George W. We now know where the WMD are-

    SEOUL, South Korea (AP) – North Korea said Monday it has performed its first-ever nuclear weapons test. The country’s official Korean Central News Agency said the test was performed successfully and there was no radioactive leakage from the site.

    Commentby K— 10/8/06@ 8:50 pm

    Yeah where is Carter and Clinton when you need them. We need to give billions to N Korea to stop this right now. hehehe

  44. 412

    Doctor JCH Kennedy, ESQ spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 8:57 pm

    Will the left wing wacko Democrats protest the North Koreans for doing a nuke test??????????………Nooooooooooooooooooooo, because the Left Loooooooooooooves Communists.

  45. 413

    Doctor JCH Kennedy, ESQ spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 8:58 pm

    I thought Bill Clinton’s Maddie Albright took care of the North Korean problem. [hehe, JCH]

  46. 414

    Doctor JCH Kennedy, ESQ spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 8:59 pm

    If North Korean had a problem with the test, will Democrat Bernie Schwarzsteinberg of Loral lend them a hand?

  47. 415

    Dan Rather spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 9:08 pm

    One gun and one bullet can do more to solve crime then a city full of liberal,concerned,democrat guvmint workers. Just more proof that if you vote democrat you deserve what you get(crime).

  48. 416

    JDB spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 9:08 pm

    I thought Bill Clinton’s Maddie Albright took care of the North Korean problem. [hehe, JCH]

    They did, than GWB messed it up.

    But let’s get our excuses down right with North Korea:

    10) It’s Nancy Pelosi’s fault.

    9) It’s Bill Clinton’s fault.

    8) Rumsfeld was really, really hung over at the time, but we are checking him into rehab

    7) Jimmy Carter!

    6) George W. Bush was molested as a child.

    5) Hillary!!!

    4) Gay Marriage

    3) Robert Byrd was in the Klan 60 years ago.

    2) The Kennedys

    1) It’s all Bill Clinton’s fault!!!

  49. 417

    JDB spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 9:11 pm

    Of course now if it is proven that North Korea has a working bomb, we know what Bush will do:

    Invade Venezuela!

  50. 418

    Monkey Jr. Pophalous spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 9:21 pm

    I Hate Ronald Reagan
    Corporate taxes under Reagan and now GWB have reached their lowest point since 1929. This fact alone should give any reasonable person a good idea where things are headed in this country and the world. Corporations, who DO use water, electricity, garbage collection services and all the other things provided by government through taxes, are now taxed at a lower rate than individuals are. They also receive special discounts on the resources that they use. This trend in America, for individual citizens to pay for the services used and the collateral environmental damage caused by corporations through their payroll taxes, began in the administration of Ronald Reagan. The now discredited theory used to describe this situation was aptly called the “Trickle Down Theory.” We were promised a trickle and we did not get even that. Real wages, after adjustment for inflation, fell in the Reagan years as they have in both Bush administrations. -(1)-
    Labor was also hard hit during the Reagan administration
    After Reagan fired all the air traffic controllers for striking for better working conditions and hired permanent replacements, corporate employers followed suit, thereby, for all intents and purposes, emasculating the Labor movement and turning the clock back on the decades of progress made for the American working man. Far from being upset by these developments the majority of voters inexplicably were enthused by them.-(2)-
    So, during the Reagan years taxes were lowered on the upper 1% of the income tier, thereby increasing their wealth tremendously, and those in the lower income tiers received meaningless decreases accompanied by a DOUBLING of withholding on their Social Security. In addition, the Reagan administration could spend this “surplus” on whatever they chose. And they did– every cent of it– with no accountability to anyone but themselves. One of the things that they spent the money on was right wing death squads south of the border. They also spent the money that they acquired illegally through arms sales to the Iranians on similar projects south of the border. This was the famous Iran-Contra scandal that many of Reagan’s minions were convicted of master- minding and participating in. Reagan, of course, alleged that he had no memory of these dealings-(3)-, hence his other popular moniker: “The Great Forgetter”, a name that would prove to be ironically apropos in the ensuing years.
    Reagan,as well as George W. Bush, ostensibly believe in smaller government, a strong military, lower taxes, and a balanced budget. However, both presidents have lowered taxes for the rich, increased military spending, and almost paradoxically created larger government and crippling budget deficits.-(4)- which they then leave for their successors to deal with. My belief is that these presidents did and do believe in a weak and small government and concurrent unanswerable and vast power in “private” multi-national corporations. The strategy now is to weaken our government,which is the only force powerful enough to control the corporations, by deliberately bankrupting it. There is no other reasonable explanation for their behavior.
    This is why I hate Ronald Reagan.
    Knowing these things, would you consider Reagan to have been a patriot, a knowing traitor, or an unwitting dupe of huge corporate interests? This fracturing of governmental power is a worldwide phenomenon and the way it’s being done is similar in many respects for the different countries involved. The power vacuum is, of course, being taken up by huge multi-national corporations. This is what is being referred to by scholars who know as “the New Feudalism.” But that is a topic for a different post.
    -1- Mark Weisbrot,”Ronald Reagan’s Legacy”, Knight-Ridder,6-7-2002.
    -2- Randy Schweitz, NATCA press release, 1-28-1997.
    -3- P. Kunhardt, Jr., The American Presidency (NY, Riverhead Books,
    1999), pp. 292-301.
    -4- Joe Strupp, “Ronald Reagan: still the teflon president”, in Editor and
    Publisher, 6-8-2004.

  51. 419

    Reality Check spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 9:32 pm

    Air America…NOT looking too good, at the moment. Or for the last several moments…..

  52. 420

    Dan Rather spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 9:45 pm

    I thought Bill Clinton’s Maddie Albright took care of the North Korean problem. [hehe, JCH]

    They did, than GWB messed it up.

    Commentby JDB— 10/8/06@ 9:08 pm

    Yep, they gave them lots of technology and money and stuck their heads in the sand and waited for the next guy to fix the problem. Of course in North Korea’s case it was to late. The dems dont fix problems they just make them worse.

  53. 421

    Dan Rather spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 9:47 pm

    54

    Speaking of which Reagan did an excellent job fixing this country after Carter. Carter was an absolute disaster. Thank god he only got four years.

  54. 422

    Dan Rather spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 9:52 pm

    Clinton road on the coat tails of the Reagan/Bush economy. Then he handed to GW when it was going down the toilet.

  55. 423

    Monkey Jr. Pophalous spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 9:53 pm

    …social security mess Ronald Reagan’s fault!
    The current mess with Social Security began in 1983 in the administration of Ronald Reagan. Under Reagan’s direction Social Security withholding was doubled. The excuse for doing this was that because of the size of the baby boomer generation a “surplus” of funds would be needed to take care of the BOOMERS in their retirement years. The surplus was supposed to be what Reagan called “a trust fund” which would enable the country to pay the baby boomers their promised retirement without unduly strapping the upcoming Generation-X. Reagan, of course, spent the money as fast as he could get it on unapproved and even illegal operations—- calling the funds a “surplus” that he was free to spend in any way he saw fit. Now we have another Republican president who wants to tamper with your retirement money. If you think you’ll ever see any of the funds you put into your “private SS account” you are seriously mistaken.
    My sources for this information are:
    Ronald Reagan, “Remarks on Signing the Social Security Amendments”-1983, from: The Public Papers of Ronald Reagan.
    “Bush’s Financial Folly”, the New York Times”, 2-15-’05.

  56. 424

    LauraBushKilledAGuy spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 9:56 pm

    Why is that draft dodging coward Bush afraid of N. Korea? We went to war in Iraq because Saddaam WANTED a nuke. Hell the guy in N. Korea HAS a nuke. Why hasn’t baby Bush invaded N. Korea? Could it be that they don’t have any oil?

  57. 425

    Monkey Jr. Pophalous spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 9:59 pm

    “Outposts of Tyranny”
    “…Stripped of social coloring and modern legal restraints, the arrangement for work in modern America resembles the same terms that functioned during feudalism. But this is more than an echo from distant times. The employment system is the defining structure for maintaining a still dominant hierarchy among citizens, those with stunted rights and those with expansive power over others.”
    “Where did citizens learn the resignation and cynicism that leads them to withdraw as active citizens? They learned it at the office; they learned it on the shop floor. The real-life education in who has the power and who doesn’t creates a formidable barrier to ever establishing an authentic democracy in which Americans are genuinely represented and engaged. The socialization of powerlessness is probably far more damaging to politics than the special-interest campaign money or the emptiness of television advertising.” William Greider from, “The Soul of Capitalism”
    Maybe we should tend to our own garden before we attempt to tend to the rest of the worlds. What was it that that esteemed Republican president, Dwight Eisenhower, warned us against? He warned in his farewell to the nation address, in substance, to
    beware the military-industrial complex!

  58. 426

    Monkey Jr. Pophalous spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 10:07 pm

    Word to Conservatives: “Everything you Know is Wrong”
    Here is a great quote from an interesting blog that I ran across:
    “Given such severe cognitive deficits,Conservatives are prone to perseveration on a pathological level. Sadly,it’s all too easy to reduce the substance of Conservative arguments to these simple terms:
    *Hillary
    *Tax and spend Liberals
    *You hate America
    *Liberal Media
    *Bill Clinton lied about a blow job
    *Big Government
    *Personal Responsibility
    *Socialistic Program
    *From my cold dead hands
    *Gays are destroying the country”

    To this list I would ad only one thing:
    *Christian hating
    When you are accused of this you’re not merely disagreeing with their politics, you’re gratuitously attacking their religion.

  59. 427

    Monkey Jr. Pophalous spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 10:14 pm

    Each Wal-Mart employee costs you $2,000
    According to the KEA Reporter, “the official letter of the Kent Education Association”:
    “*Wal-Marts anti-union, low wage, low-benefit policies have left its employees in need of hundreds of millions of dollars in public aid for various health-care and social safety net programs such as food stamps, Medicaid and subsidized housing.
    * A congressional report estimates that the typical Wal-Mart store costs the federal taxpayers $420,750 a year– more than $2,000 per employee.
    * Many of our students and their families suffer harm as a result of Wal-Mart’s poverty level wages and benefits. The WEA Children’s fund is therefore at cross-purposes when members use the fund to shop at Wal-Mart.”
    The only organization opposing the WEA is the Evergreen Freedom Foundation, an anti-union and anti public school organization that is partially funded by Wal-Mart through the Walton Family Foundation. The Olympia based organization is also partially funded by Richard Mellon Scaife, although the organization claims to be a grass-roots WA organization that is funded by in- state contributions.

  60. 428

    Monkey Jr. Pophalous spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 10:21 pm

    Revoking the Corporation
    Why do people think they need (must have!) corporations to survive?
    People used to think they couldn’t have a government without sanction from a king, who presumably was granted his power to rule by God, and passed the authority on to others — like, the Sheriff of Nottingham. This is how effective corporate propaganda has been: that most people cannot envision life, order, and prosperity without gigantic corporations organizing every facet of it.
    Consider this: In 1997 corporations worldwide caused $2.6 trillion dollars of damage, which they passed on to the world society at large. At the same time, they created $520 billion dollars of profit which they kept for themselves and their richest stock owners.
    This is not good business on the part of world society and getting rid of these corporations is the highest priority we as world citizens have.

  61. 429

    Doctor JCH Kennedy, ESQ spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 11:03 pm

    Monkey Jr. Pophalous, How much does each welfare food stamp Democrat loser cost the taxpayers? hehe, JCH

  62. 430

    Doctor JCH Kennedy, ESQ spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 11:04 pm

    Maybe if Maddie Albright danced with the little Democrat mother fucker Kim Il-Jong again??? One Trident: problem solved.

  63. 431

    Doctor JCH Kennedy, ESQ spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 11:08 pm

    And how did Democrats who served with a congressman named Gerry Studds now step forward and express shock over Mr. Foley‘s disgusting behavior? After all, their colleague, Chairman Studds, sodomized a 17-year-old boy [now poster GBS] in his Georgetown apartment, and then he took the congressional page to Portugal to carry on his illicit affair in Europe. [………………………………………………………………..GBS, how was Portugal?]

  64. 432

    Doctor Maf54 Kennedy Esq. spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 11:24 pm

    JCH:

    Smart, distract them with a case from thirty years ago. Good ploy.

    And why not make something up. Hell, I know, claim that Hillary Clinton called Dick Morris a jew bastard. That old lie might work one last time.

    However, why are you projecting about gay affairs? Are you jealous that you are stuck servicing sailors? I bet if you tried hard enough, you could find a nice Republican to “plumb your depths.” [hehe]

  65. 433

    Doctor JCH Kennedy, ESQ spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 11:25 pm

    NUEVO LAREDO, Mexico – Mexican fishermen captured a 7.5-foot crocodile in the Rio Grande, the river that divides part of Mexico and the United States, authorities reported on Sunday. Illegal migrants from Mexico frequently swim or ride inner tubes across the Rio Grande to reach the United States. Crocodiles do not normally inhabit the river, and authorities suspect it may have been brought to the area as a pet and then… [……………..It may be hard for illegals to vote Democrat while in the middle of a crocodile “death roll”. Still, many dead Democrats vote, so I don’t see the DNC getting to worked up over this issue.]

  66. 434

    Doctor JCH Kennedy, ESQ spews:

    Sunday, 10/8/06 at 11:27 pm

    “And why not make something up. Hell, I know, claim that Hillary Clinton called Dick Morris a jew bastard.”

    Commentby Doctor Maf54 Kennedy Esq.— [The quote was “FUCKING JEW BASTARD!” Get it right!!!……BTW, Ask Dick Morris……]

  67. 435

    skagit spews:

    Monday, 10/9/06 at 12:31 am

    Hey, JDB, can’t believe nobody else complimented you on that TOP TEN WHO TO BLAME list! It cracked me up! No rightwing teeny-tiny brainiac could possibly be so creative. Thanks for a laugh on the left!

  68. 436

    skagit spews:

    Monday, 10/9/06 at 12:34 am

    Goldy,I’m sorry babe, but I don’t think many people were listening by the time your 9 pm hour came around. That 8 pm hour was pathetic! You really need to study radio sweetie. Remember the cub scout pledge? I think it was to “be prepared.”

    I stuck around but it was because I was working and had little choice in the matter!

    I like you and sure hope you can get it together!

  69. 437

    Mike spews:

    Monday, 10/9/06 at 8:28 am

    When will your show be available as a podcast?

  70. 438

    JDB spews:

    Monday, 10/9/06 at 10:00 am

    skagit,

    Thanks!

  71. 439

    Daddy Love spews:

    Monday, 10/9/06 at 10:41 am

    8 Union Firefighter

    Reichert is one of them (that is, a so-called “first responder”), and he has promised to make their concerns a priority.

    It looks like he received their endorsements before his cowardly cave-in to his party on his signature issue: passing legislation so that first reponders will all have the equipment and bandwidth to guarantee communication across organizational and jurisdictional boundaries (police with fire, Coast guard with police, etc.). Dave promised to make it a reality, but when the rubber met the road the Republicans cut it out of the Homeland Security bill (liek we needed to wait ’til 2006 for this anyway)and Dave folded like a K-Mart deck chair.

  72. 440

    Daddy Love spews:

    Monday, 10/9/06 at 10:44 am

    12 Union Firefighter

    Was the “MaMa Hate” comment directed at me? Wow, I had no idea I was up against the sharp ripostes of such an expert verbal swordsman. Ohh, ouch. Surely I cannot withstand your withering scorn and creative and colorful nicknames.

  73. 441

    Daddy Love spews:

    Monday, 10/9/06 at 10:47 am

    Thanks to a landmark agreement brokered by the Clinton administration, North Korea’s spent fuel rods were locked in a storage facility under the monitoring of international weapons inspectors from 1994 to 2002. But the Bush administration would have none of a successfully negotiated containment. After all, just because the Republican Congress stiffed NK on the light-water reactor and oil shipments we promised in 1994, they had no right to possibly begin the slow, expensive, painstaking process of enriching uranium.

    Well, we showed them. After a few shrill diplomatic exchanges over the uranium enrichment (which they admitted), Pyongyang upped the ante. The North Koreans expelled the international inspectors, broke the locks on their fuel rods, loaded them onto a truck, and drove them to a nearby reprocessing facility, to be converted into bomb-grade plutonium.

    The Bush White House stood by and did nothing.

    And that, boys and girls, is the story of “how we got here.”

  74. 442

    Union Fireman spews:

    Monday, 10/9/06 at 11:03 am

    MaMa Hate,

    And the link I gave you was recent. He is also praised in the latest edition of “International Firefighter”, our quarterly periodical.

    So your basic arguement is that us poor dumb first responders don’t know what legislation we want passed? He has been endorsed by yet another firefighter local and at least 2 police locals since the legislation passed. Any idea how/why that would happen?

    As far as us endorsing him because he’s a cop, then why did we endorse Dave Ross last time?

  75. 443

    GBS spews:

    Monday, 10/9/06 at 12:23 pm

    “One Trident: problem solved.

    Commentby Doctor JCH Kennedy, ESQ— 10/8/06@ 11:04 pm”

    There you go again, JCH, proving you can’t comprehend complex matters.

    As President Clinton said “Strength and wisdom are not opposing forces, in fact, they go hand in hand.”

    It’s this narrow minded, little dick syndrome type of thinking that has gotten the Untied States in the bind that we find ourselves in today.

    In a few weeks, however, the adults with critical thinking skills will be back in power in congress to bring this train wreck to a halt.

    JCH, the Republican party and people like you are about to become irrelevant in the political landscape of our great nation.

    Nancy Pelosi, subpoena power and the force of law behind her, the Republican’s ultimate nightmarish Hell is about to come true.

  76. 444

    Daddy Love spews:

    Monday, 10/9/06 at 1:01 pm

    74 Union Firefighter

    Why don’t you tell me? ARE you too dumb to know that Dave Reichert wimped out on his most strident campaign promise?

  77. 445

    Daddy Love spews:

    Monday, 10/9/06 at 1:28 pm

    Union Firefighter

    Followed your link. Too bad that when Bush signed the Homeland Security bill he added a “signing statement” stating that he could ignore it, particularly the provision that “ensures that FEMA will be headed by a experienced emergency manager.” Bush maintins that Bush maintains that “under his interpretation of the Constitution, the FEMA provision interfered with his power to make personnel decisions.” But you got the bill. Hooray. Too bad it’s meaningless.

    And your boy Dave Reichert will just roll over for him when he DOES ignore it.

    AND the IAFF left out the part where Dave’s pet project got cut. But of course they did. They’d look like idiots endorsing him if they mentioned it.

    Good job on the endorsement.

  78. 446

    Union Fireman spews:

    Monday, 10/9/06 at 1:59 pm

    Nice link, but where is Reichert quoted saying he agrees with the signing statement? Oh wait, I guess that would be when he pushed for David Paulison to head FEMA. David is the former director of the USFA and a great leader. Oh wait, he is a former fireman, so I guess he probally doesn’t know our issues as well as someone like you, huh? Once again, signing statement or not, it was enacted into law. Tell me once again where a member of the House of Reps, can tell the President he can’t issue a signing statement. I missed that day in Constitutional Law. Go crawl under you rock and realize that Firefighters and Police endorsed the best person for the Job. Want more proof? Contact the organizations that endorsed him and ask them personally. Or are you afraid that you may actually learn that Congressman reichert is the best person for the job?

  79. 447

    Doctor JCH Kennedy, ESQ spews:

    Monday, 10/9/06 at 8:45 pm

    JCH, the Republican party and people like you are about to become irrelevant in the political landscape of our great nation.

    Commentby GBS […………………………………………….Er, GBS, The Republicans pay the bills. The Democrats welfare hacks, “guvment” employees, union thugs and illegals are all Democrat parasites and will starve when we, thge producers, become “irrelevant”. Atlas will Shrugged, and you libs will need to tax each other. That will be fun to watch.]

  80. 448

    Daddy Love spews:

    Tuesday, 10/10/06 at 1:38 pm

    78 Union Firefighter

    Who said Reichert agreed with the signing statement? I said HE DOESN’T HAVE THE BALLS TO STAND UP THE THE PRESIDENT WHEN BUSH IGNORES THEIR LAW. That’s that I said.

    And I don’t have a “rock.” I live in an Eastiside condominium unit. Volunteering for and voting for Darcy Burner.

  81. 449

    Car care spews:

    Friday, 10/13/06 at 4:57 am

    Winter car care: Winter car care

  82. 450

    phentermine spews:

    Sunday, 10/22/06 at 6:26 pm

    Schaffner,Corinthian convulsion Apollo colonization ciphertext,overhang,text executional

  83. 451

    Auto Insurance spews:

    Wednesday, 10/25/06 at 12:12 am

    plurals:Macedonia:grabs leery reanalyze thrills – Tons of interesdting stuff!!!

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by Goldy — Sunday, 9/24/06, 4:28 pm

The sun is shining, the Seahawks are demolishing the hated Giants… what better way to celebrate than to kick back with a cold beer and “The David Goldstein Show” tonight on Newsradio 710-KIRO, 7PM to 10PM?

7PM: Is it time we stop electing judges? The Seattle P-I thinks so, and I agree. We dodged a bullet Tuesday in the Alexander-Groen race when WA voters rejected a $2 million smear campaign against a sitting, centrist justice, but that’s just a hint at the kind of special interest and out of state money putting the independence of our courts at risk. Don’t believe me? Former WA Insurance Commissioner Deborah Senn will join me to talk about the $1.5 million the US Chamber of Commerce spent to defeat her (read “The Secret Chamber“,) and the hundreds of millions they’ve spent to elect right-wing judges nationwide.

8PM: Tunnel, rebuild, or no-build? Now that the latest cost estimates have come in, it doesn’t look like we can replace both the Alaska Way Viaduct and the 520 floating bridge for much less than $9 billion, raising the question of whether we can afford to replace them at all. The Stranger’s transportation maven, Erica C. Barnett joins me to discuss our region’s transportation quandary. We’ll also be joined by an advocate of the controversial “surface street” option, which essentially replaces the Viaduct with, um… nothing.

9PM: Is torture an American value? President Bush and the Republican leadership seem to think so, and so far the American people have failed to rise up in protest. David Neiwert of the blog Orcinus says the President is leading our nation into a “moral abyss,” and he pins part of the blame on the “abysmal […] performance of the press.” David will join me in the studio to take your calls.

Tune in tonight (or listen to the live stream) and give me a call: 1-877-710-KIRO (5476).

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  1. 452

    Hillary spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 4:32 pm

    “…against a sitting, centrist justice…”

    I that judge was really “centrist” Goldie would be all over herself criticizing him endlessly.

  2. 453

    RightEqualsStupid spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 4:52 pm

    Just a reminder. George Bush used coke, got arrested for DUI, ran THREE businesses that went bankrupt, went AWOL from the NG after using his dad’s influence to get to the front of the line, and then ran the most corrupt regime in US history.

    What a legacy.

  3. 454

    Goldy spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 4:53 pm

    I have criticized Alexander, especially over his decision to uphold the state ban on gay marriage.

    Sorry… the guy is Dan Evans Republican. Can’t get much more centrist than that.

  4. 455

    righton spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 5:07 pm

    darn, i was hoping you all would be defending “purple rage” willie …

    ps, #2, maybe dui and chpt 11 is true, other stuff isn’t. And as for most corrupt….who’s corrupt exactly? no lincoln bedroom deals right, no stealing the furniture, no sandy berger stealing documents, no whitewaater..

    you mihgt have a shot at an argument that bush is doing stupid things, but your purple rage makes all rational people tune out

  5. 456

    skagit spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 5:12 pm

    Every word in #2 is true. . .

  6. 457

    Anonymous spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 5:31 pm

    Re: 2 and 5: keep screaming it loud and long dims, PLEASE keep screaming it… maybe you can get slick willie to add it to his finger pointing purple range repetoire.

    One can only hope.

  7. 458

    skagit spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 5:54 pm

    PLEASE keep screaming it

    Who is doing the screaming . . . ?

  8. 459

    For the Clueless spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 6:06 pm

    “purple rage”

    Sigh… Bill Clinton handed Chris Wallace’s ass to him and all wingers can do is smirk.

    So why didn’t Shrub try to retaliate against al-Qaeda for the Cole bombing?

    You wingers can’t answer that.

    8 months plus and withdrawing from ABM treaty, Star Wars boondoggles, tax cuts and long vacations had more priority than protecting the country from terrorist attacks.

    Always remember, 9/11 happened on Shrub’s watch.

  9. 460

    ivan spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 6:10 pm

    You’re discussing transportation on the radio and you’re inviting Erica C. Barnett? Sorry, but I’ll be cleaning my oven. That bimbo has less credibility than Mark the Redneck or JCH.

  10. 461

    Anonymous spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 6:13 pm

    um, oh geee, maybe because he GWB wasn’t Prsident until 4 months after the Cole bombing…. you dolt.

    You can’t spin away more a half dozen acts of terrorism during 8 very long party years of slicks reign vs 8 months of GWB.

    For that matter, when 9/11 happened he didn’t even have a complete cabinet in place.

    Hmmm whch party are the obstructionists, Mr Schumer?

  11. 462

    Anonymous spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 6:15 pm

    and the bottom line, dolt… is that there hasn’t beeen another on American soil since 9/11… the party pres only wishes he could say that.

  12. 463

    Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 6:18 pm

    Shit, another week gone by and STILL no major hurricanes. Dang… What’s up with you global warming kook aid drinkers? Are you as full of shit as your gawd Algore?

    Quoting from the gawd of global warming: “Two thousand scientists, in a hundred countries, engaged in the most elaborate, well organized scientific collaboration in the history of humankind, have produced long-since a consensus that we will face a string of terrible catastrophes unless we act to prepare ourselves and deal with the underlying causes of global warming. Ladies and gentlemen, the warnings about global warming have been extremely clear for a long time. We are facing a global climate crisis. It is deepening. We are entering a period of consequences.” http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0912-32.htm

    Unfortunately, the facts don’t support Algore’s ill informed alarmist predictions.
    http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pastdec.shtml

    Decade Category 3,4,5 Hurricanes
    1941-1950 10
    1951-1960 8
    1961-1970 6
    1971-1980 4
    1981-1990 5
    1991-2000 5
    2001-2004 3
    2005 10
    2006 (as of 9/24) 0

    For you moonbats who know how to use Excel, try this: Take the above data and plot it in chart form. Then apply a second order polynomial trendline to it. Notice the strong downward trend and an R^2 value of 89%. Clearly the number of major hurricanes has been decreasing for 60 years while industrialization and human activity has been accelerating. 2005 is what is known in the adult world as an “anomaly.

    If Algore was right, we should have had at least 15 major hurricanes in 2006 by now. How many have we actually had? Umm…. Zero. None. Zip. Nada. So where is the “string of terrible catastrophes”?

    Could it be that Algore is full of shit? Could it be that the link between hurricanes and global warming is weak at best? Could it be that there is no fucking “crisis”? Could it be that you koolaid drinkers need to re-examine your position? Nah….

  13. 464

    Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 6:19 pm

    From the moonbat economic theory file:

    Government exists to make private wealth possible.
    Commentby Belltowner— 3/12/06@ 4:15 pm

    Government does make private wealth possible. What part of that don’t you understand????
    Jesus H. Christ, you’re fucking stupid.
    Commentby GBS— 9/6/06@ 2:03 pm

    It’s called the social contract. It is the basis of American Democracy and American Capitalism, and it states that governments exist to make private wealth possible.
    Commentby JDB— 9/21/06@ 5:42 pm

  14. 465

    Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 6:20 pm

    Moonbat energy policy:

    The better path is electrons straight into batteries and capacitors.
    Commentby For the Clueless— 8/18/06@ 6:12 pm

  15. 466

    Anonymous spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 6:23 pm

    The fruits of an unserious presidency

  16. 467

    RightEqualsStupid spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 6:27 pm

    Now that the intelligence community has come out with a report saying Bush’s fake war in Iraq has actually increased terrorism, well I can’t wait to see the lapel-pin, chickenhawk patriots on the right spin this one.

    Face it, you righties LIKE terrorism. You WANT terrorism. It serves your purpose. We need to put you criminals in jail where you belong and save America.

  17. 468

    sgmmac spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 6:33 pm

    Of course you want to appoint all Judges and it isn’t to insure an impartial judiciary. It is to further the leftist agenda and taint the courts for decades to come……

  18. 469

    Anonymous spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 6:36 pm

    sorry dolt, you listened to the NYTLiars again, didn’t you? you might want to read the entire report, dolt, rather than cherry picking your favorite koolaid flavor from it… kinda like the NYTLiars did.

  19. 470

    Anonymous spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 6:38 pm

    you just gotta pity these stupid liberals expounding with half baked claims on half witted ‘reporting’.

  20. 471

    For the Clueless spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 6:39 pm

    Anonymous (pbj): even you can’t be that stupid… Gee you wingers must REALLY be melting down over that Clinton interview.

  21. 472

    Anonymous spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 6:39 pm

    for mark… Lifestyles of the Lear Jet Liberals… enjoy!

  22. 473

    Anonymous spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 6:40 pm

    we are REJOICING over the clinton interview… and I don’t even like pbj’s let alone name myself after them

    you kids just aren’t as smart as you like to imagine.

  23. 474

    Anonymous spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 6:43 pm

    The Clinton Freak-Out: ‘Um, Wow.’

  24. 475

    Anonymous spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 6:43 pm

    Touch A Sore Spot, President Clinton?

  25. 476

    For the Clueless spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 6:44 pm

    Oh you’re not pbj? Goldy said you changed your handle?

    Cough it up coward.

  26. 477

    For the Clueless spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 6:47 pm

    Shrub sat on his hands for 8 months. Vacationing and cutting taxes on the rich had a higher priority.

    9/11 happened on Shrubya’s watch.

  27. 478

    Anonymous spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 6:47 pm

    Cough it up coward.

    Commentby For the Clueless— 9/24/06@ 6:44 pm

    LMAO… oh the humor in the hypocrisy hurts!

  28. 479

    For the Clueless spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 6:49 pm

    Too afraid? Thought so…

    Thanks for showing your cowardice for all to see.

  29. 480

    Anonymous spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 6:49 pm

    Well, we looked through what Dick Clarke said, and he gives Mr. Clinton much more mixed grades than the president said.

    On the one hand, Clarke says this, and let’s put it on the screen:

    “Bill Clinton was obsessed with getting bin Laden. Bill Clinton ordered bin Laden assassinated. He ordered not only bin Laden assassinated but all of his lieutenants. The CIA failed him.”

    But after the bombing of U.S. embassies in Africa in 1998, President Clinton ordered a cruise missile attack on an Al Qaida training camp in Afghanistan, and here Clarke is not so positive. Take a look.

    “Clinton bombed them once. The public reaction was negative to that. Remember ‘wag the dog’? Everyone said Clinton is just bombing Afghanistan to divert attention from the Monica business, and so he didn’t bomb them again.”

    And, Brit, we also found that in the 9/11 Commission report, the bipartisan report of the 9/11 Commission, they said that, in December of 1999, Dick Clarke sent a memo in the Clinton White House, as the Clinton adviser, urging an attack on Al Qaida bases before the millennium, when everybody thought there would be a terror attack. Sandy Berger, Bill Clinton’s national security adviser, wrote on the memo, “No.”

  30. 481

    Anonymous spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 6:50 pm

    MARA LIASSON, NPR: Well, I mean, eight years versus eight months — I think you could say he had a lot more time to try. He says he tried and failed. But he wants credit for trying. And I guess he feels sensitive that he’s being attacked by some people for not doing enough.

    I mean, in terms of being motivated by worrying about his legacy, I mean, legacies take a long time to get settled. But right now, it doesn’t seem to me — and the reason why I was kind of mystified by Clinton’s outburst is that it doesn’t seem to me that the consensus is forming that he is somehow to blame for 9/11 more than the Bush administration.

  31. 482

    Anonymous spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 6:51 pm

    HUME: Let’s talk a little bit about the political will that existed in the country after 9/11. Bill Clinton didn’t have anything like that behind him when he was trying to do what he tried to do. So what could a president have done?

    If you look back at the first World Trade Center bombing, he was president; it was 1993. And he chose to treat that as a law enforcement matter.

    And, you know, in retrospect, he could’ve made a different decision. He could have sounded the call and said, “This is a major attack. It requires a major response.” He would’ve had to make a huge deal out of it and use the presidential megaphone to the fullest.

    The same is true after the bombings of the embassies. The same is true after the bombing of the Cole. He could’ve elevated those.

    The country would’ve swung behind him, as the country always does at times like that. The politicians probably would have, too. And he probably would’ve gotten what he needed to mount — the political effort needed to mount a larger-scale undertaking.

    I think it’s fair to say that he and his administration chose not to do that. In retrospect, it looks like bad choices. But, no doubt, he did make some efforts. He’s right about that.

  32. 483

    Anonymous spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 6:54 pm

    BARNES: Well, I haven’t read the report. And we do know this: that there is this radical fever raging among Muslims all over the world, particularly among young Muslim men, that has led to terrorist attacks on Europe, Asia, 9/11, for instance, here in the United States. And so, it’s growing.

    The question is, would it continue to be growing, this terrorist threat, absent Iraq? I think it would be growing. Would it be growing as much? I don’t know.

    Remember, when was the biggest growth period of all for Al Qaida? When did Al Qaida grow? It was not when we were in Iraq. It was in the 1990s when it was growing like crazy, when there were attacks on the United States then, in the earlier World Trade Center attack and the one on the embassies and so on. That’s when Al Qaida was growing. No Iraq then.

    My guess is it would be growing anyway, because there’s this historical trend among Muslims.

    WALLACE: Brit, we’ve had the president, over the course of the last few weeks, around the time of the 9/11 fifth anniversary, saying that we’re not safe but we’re getting safer and we’ve done a very considerable job in degrading Al Qaida.

    Does this kind of report, indicating that there’s a new generation of Islamic terrorists and that, in fact, the overall threat is greater, does that contradict what the president said?

    HUME: Well, it would seem to on the surface. The thing is we don’t know what the overall conclusions of this National Intelligence Estimate were. We know this one piece of it.

    When it says the threat is greater, does it mean the threat is greater to the United States mainland, to our country? Does it mean the threat is growing worldwide? It’s not clear. Obviously, the threat continues to grow.

    One wonders, too, about the idea behind it. I mean, what is it about our being in Iraq that so inflames Muslims who were supposedly less inflamed by our toppling this Muslim extremist government in Afghanistan? Hard to say. You know, it may be a recruiting ground, but for those who would — the idea that those are people who otherwise would not have been recruited I think is something you have to question.

    LIASSON: Yes. Look, I think that when the NIE said the situation in Iraq has made the terrorist threat worse, I don’t think they’re just talking about Al Qaida — which, I agree with Fred, certainly they have been hurt to a large degree — but there have been all these other local, decentralized, fairly independent groups now that take their inspiration from Al Qaida or get ideas from radical Islamic Web sites, and they’re terrorists too.

    Iraq is definitely a rallying cry. It’s also a front line. I think it is a recruiting tool now.

    To say, how would it have been any different if we’d just focused on Afghanistan and poured lots of energy into solving the Israeli- Palestinian issue, which I guess is kind of the alternative approach to this, it’s impossible to say.

    But the fact is, the situation, I think, worldwide has gotten worse, even though you could say, just by the fact that the U.S. itself has not been attacked, that there’s been some progress there.

  33. 484

    For the Clueless spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 6:55 pm

    8+ months “Dolt” and no response for the Cole even though Clinton passed on a plan to Shrubya..

    Was “Dolt” your old handle?

  34. 485

    For the Clueless spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 6:56 pm

    I’ll leave you to your cut and paste of Fox’s spin.

    “Dolt”

  35. 486

    Anonymous spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 6:56 pm

    why would Bush follow a plan by the party pres… what was the damend plan? hide in a closet with a fat intern?

  36. 487

    Anonymous spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 6:58 pm

    8 FUCKING YEARS… EMBASSIES, THE COLE, WTC 1…NO RESPONSE FROM SUGAR LIPS vs 8 months and an incomplete cabinet thanks to the whiner obstructionists.

    Oh I thank God for stupid willie this weekend… watch for the ads boys and girls, sugar lips put the cherry on top of Rove’s October surprise. delicious!

  37. 488

    Anonymous spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 7:18 pm

    1993 – Clinton forces Israel to let Mohammed Atta go free. Terrorist pilot Mohammed Atta blew up a bus in Israel in 1986. The Israelis captured, tried and imprisoned him. As part of the
    Oslo agreement with the Palestinians in 1993, Israel had to agree to release so-called “political prisoners”. However, the Israelis would not release any with blood on their hands. The American President at the time, Bill Clinton, and his Secretary of State, Warren Christopher, “insisted” that all prisoners be released. Thus Mohammed Atta was freed and eventually thanked
    the US by flying an airplane into Tower One of the World Trade Center . This was reported by many of the American TV networks at the time that the terrorists were first identified.

    1993- A humanitarian operation in Somalia is transformed into a military strike, where Clinton refuses to authorize the availability of armor for proper support. When the operation leads to American casualties, Clinton withdraws American forces and sends the message that a “bloody nose” is the only thing necessary for the United States to back down.

    1995-1996 – Clinton institutes “Citizenship USA” which pressures the US Department of Justice’s Immigration and Naturalization Service to naturalize some 1,000,000 new immigrants, even though many had incomplete background checks. This allowed for criminals and terrorists to enter America. Whistleblowers to these activities and the large scale selling of Green Cards, were physically threatened and terminated.

    August 20, 1998 – The Clinton Administration demonstrates a perfunctory response toward terrorism after the assault on two U.S. embassies in Africa. On Aug. 7, 1998. The U.S. embassies in Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, were bombed by terrorists, leaving 258 people dead and more than 5,000 injured.

    The U.S. Launches cruise missiles, striking an empty terrorism training complex in Afghanistan and destroying a pharmaceutical manufacturing facility in Khartoum, Sudan. Both targets were claimed to have been financed by Osama bin Laden, but many feel that the ill-planned strike was simply done to deflect legal problems President Clinton was having with Monica Lewinsky. There was no follow-up and Bin Laden was buoyed by our meek approach to the growing terrorist menace.

    1999 – The Clinton Administration decides to show the Islamic world that America is more than willing to kill European Christians. He authorizes a war on the Serbs, our only historic friend in the European Balkans. He supports the Islamist, Al Qaeda allied Kosovo Liberation Army (responsible for running the drug and prostitution trade in Europe). He authorizes the bombing of Serb civilian targets such as bridges, hospitals and heating plants, which leads to the death of over 5,000 Serb civilians. This action sets the stage for creating a radical Islamic base in the “belly” of Europe.

    October 12, 2000 – Terrorism strikes and almost sinks the Destroyer USS Cole in Yemen. President Bill Clinton does nothing. Reinforces the perception that the United States lacks the will to either defend itself or battle terrorism in spite of considerable loss of life. There was no follow-up.

    After the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, which killed six and injured 1,000, President Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

    After the 1995 bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed five US military personnel, Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

    After the 1996 Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed 19 and injured 200 US military personnel, Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

    After the 1998 bombing of US embassies in Africa, which killed 224 and injured 5,000, Clinton promised that those responsible! would be hunted down and punished.

    After the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole, which killed 17 and injured 39 US sailors, Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

    Maybe if Clinton had kept his promise, an estimated 3,000 people in New York and Washington, DC that are now dead would be alive today.

  38. 489

    skagit spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 7:19 pm

    smeg: “Of course you want to appoint all Judges and it isn’t to insure an impartial judiciary. It is to further the leftist agenda and taint the courts for decades to come……”

    C’mon, Smeg, no one wants to appoint . . . there is always consent. No need to lie.

    “So I don’t know where he is. You know, I just don’t spend that much time on him, Kelly, to be honest with you.

    I’m more worried about making sure that our soldiers are well-supplied;

    that the strategy is clear;

    that the coalition is strong;

    that when we find enemy bunched up like we did in Shahikot Mountains, that the military has all the support it needs to go in and do the job, which they did.

  39. 490

    Anonymous spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 7:19 pm

    ps, I guess the facts AREN’T on your side.

  40. 491

    skagit spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 7:20 pm

    “above”

  41. 492

    Enoch Root spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 7:20 pm

    If we can’t afford to build the Green Line, then we damn well can’t afford the tunnel.

  42. 493

    Anonymous spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 7:21 pm

    Sugar lips knew…http://dosfan.lib.uic.edu/ERC/.....94PGT.html“>Patterns of Global Terrorism: 1994 … and did nothing.

  43. 494

    Anonymous spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 7:22 pm

    Sugar lips knew…
    Patterns of Global Terrorism: 1994 … and did nothing.

  44. 495

    My Left Foot spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 7:32 pm

    Special comment for anyone who would want to try ?anything untoward? (quoting proudofherfatlyingthreateningass), it will take at least five of you to take me down. Three of you will have broken bones. Which three will it be? – Commentby My Left Foot? 9/24/06@ 2:36 pm

    Dear typical democrap liar, I can assure you that I have never uttered or used the words “anything untoward”. Perhaps it was another that you threaten and stalk “big man”[/snicker].

    Comment by howcanyoubePROUDtobeanASS — 9/24/06 @ 5:35 pm
    ================================================

    64

    Dear proudofherfatlyingthreateningmistakenass,

    In post 64 you say: Dear typical democrap liar, I can assure you that I have never uttered or used the words “anything untoward”. Perhaps it was another that you threaten and stalk “big man”[/snicker].

    Here is your post from 9/18/06 @ 11:33 pm

    You threatened my children you miserable pricklet and now you LIE about it you, pathetic coward.

    If you pray to whomever it is you perchance to believe in, you better pray long and hard that NOTHING untoward happens to my kids, CARL GROSSMAN LIBERAL CHILD TERRORIST.

    Comment by howcanyoubePROUDtobeanASS — 9/18/06 @ 11:33 pm (post 149, under “THE POOR KING COUNTY GOP” thread.

    Not only is reading comprehension a problem for you, so is your memory. I would expect a bigger person to apologize, but knowing the miserable, sad, depressed, lonely, bitch (c**t) you are, I won’t expect one from you.

    You self-righteous, sanctimonious skank. Let me see you defend yourself now.

    Go fuck yourself.

    Comment by My Left Foot — 9/24/06 @ 7:19 pm

    You can find the referenced posts in the thread titled “The Long War”.

    I just thought everyone should know what kind of person proudofherfatlyingcheatingthreateningass really is.

  45. 496

    My Left Foot spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 7:35 pm

    proudofherfatlyingthreateningass “can assure” me.

    HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR
    HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR
    HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR

    (Deep breath)

    HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR
    HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR
    HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR

    Stop it, you’re killing me.

    HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR
    HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR
    HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR

  46. 497

    skagit spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 7:36 pm

    Left Foot: They all belong to the same ASSxNINE Clan . . .

    “So I don’t know where he is. You know, I just don’t spend that much time on him, Kelly, to be honest with you.

  47. 498

    The Anti Kiro spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 7:36 pm

    It’s time for Goldy to step down. This show is nothing but self promotion from a guy that started a blog in his basement and has the credentials of a guy with a sign at an intersection.

    Sorry, but time to go Goldy. We need an experienced intellectual that has actually done something with his life.

  48. 499

    skagit spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 7:36 pm

    “So I don’t know where he is. You know, I just don’t spend that much time on him, Kelly, to be honest with you.

  49. 500

    skagit spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 7:37 pm

    “So I don’t know where he is. You know, I just don’t spend that much time on him, Kelly, to be honest with you.

  50. 501

    skagit spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 7:38 pm

    “So I don’t know where he is. You know, I just don’t spend that much time . . .

  51. 502

    skagit spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 7:39 pm

    “So I don’t know where he is. You know, I just don’t . . . ” fucking care.

  52. 503

    ArtFart spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 7:43 pm

    Oh, yeah, Whitewater….lessee, the GOP-controlled House spent about 45 million dollars of your and my money, on top of God knows how much Richard Mellon Scaife poured into phony investigations, bribes, fake articles (admitted to be so by their author) in such fine upstanding publications as the American Spectator and the Washington Times (AKA the Moonie Gazette)…and what did it all come down to? An article of impeachment that simply accused Bill Clinton of lying to Ken Starr about getting a blow job. Now, after six years of arrogance and incompetence by Sait King Dumbfuck, we’re still in deep shit with over 100,000 troops in Desert Hell, a once functional country blown all to pieces, and more “terr’ists” running around than ever before…and Disney/ABC blows ANOTHER 45 mil of their shareholders’ would-be equity telling us all that it’s all really Slick Willie’s fault. Excuuuuse me if his rather elegant and restrained response to Hume’s clumsy attempt to bushwhack him rings a helluva lot more like the truth.

    No doubt Faux News will cover its tracks over the next 24 hours with HannShitty, O’Lielly and Ann “Let’s-kill-em-all-but-it’s-really-a-joke-don’t-you-like-my-thighs” Coulter that we didn’t really hear what we heard or see what we’ve seen, that Oceania is safely at war with Middle Asia, War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery and Ignorance is Strength.

  53. 504

    skagit spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 7:44 pm

    “So I don’t know where he is. You know, I just don’t spend that much time on him, Kelly, to be honest with you.

    Maybe a little purple rage would get your guy off his butt and off vacation. Think maybe?

  54. 505

    ArtFart spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 7:45 pm

    I’d love to see the equivalent of a “surface street” option for dealing with 520…

  55. 506

    RightEqualsStupid spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 7:47 pm

    Is it just me or does anyone else think it’s odd that Bush Sr. was having breakfast with Osama’s dad when the plane hit the tower?

  56. 507

    skagit spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 7:47 pm

    Faux News will do its usual job of feigning alarm and herding its sheep in the direction of cover for all things empirical . . .

    But, in the end, these are the words that will be remembered from the right . . .
    “So I don’t know where he is. You know, I just don’t spend that much time on him, Kelly, to be honest with you.

  57. 508

    skagit spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 7:48 pm

    ArtFart, I think they should close the viaduct tomorrow and explore surface street options. I like that idea a lot.

  58. 509

    skagit spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 7:50 pm

    Right-sure-does-equal-stupid: Not odd, probably pretty commonplace in their little billionaires’ echelon.

  59. 510

    sgmmac spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 8:01 pm

    Osama’s Dad is alive? Damn, I could have sworn that Osama inherited his millions from his Dad.

  60. 511

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 8:04 pm

    we are REJOICING over the clinton interview… and I don’t even like pbj’s let alone name myself after them

    you kids just aren’t as smart as you like to imagine.

    Commentby Anonymous— 9/24/06@ 6:40 pm

    The Clinton Freak-Out: ‘Um, Wow.’

    Commentby Anonymous— 9/24/06@ 6:43 pm

    Touch A Sore Spot, President Clinton?

    Commentby Anonymous— 9/24/06@ 6:43 pm

    I agree!!!! That was simply precious Anon. We need to save this for Clinton’s legacy file. hehehehe

  61. 512

    skagit spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 8:05 pm

    The whole family’s got money, Smeg. You should know that. Do you think your Resident Idiot is poor . . . well, his dad is still alive. God help me!

    “Maybe if Clinton had kept his promise, an estimated 3,000 people in New York and Washington, DC that are now dead would be alive today.

    Commentby Anonymous— 9/24/06@ 7:18 pm

    ““So I don’t know where he is. You know, I just don’t spend that much time on him, Kelly, to be honest with you.

    So maybe if Bush had spent some time on it, we’d have caught Bin Laden and approximately 3000 soldiers might be alive today.

  62. 513

    sgmmac spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 8:06 pm

    Gidget,

    Get real. Judges are elected by the people or appointed by commissions and Governors and Presidents………

    No-one consents when the Governor appoints a Judge. Judges are suppossed to be elected in Washington State, but somehow over 70% of them are appointed. Just like Gerry Alexander’s replacement will be appointed by the Governor when he is forced to retire before the next election.

  63. 514

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 8:08 pm

    I do give Clinton some credit for not fucking up the economy that was handed to him. Most of the credit goes to the republican congress elected in 1994.

  64. 515

    sgmmac spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 8:09 pm

    Bush “might” have caught him, Clinton “might” have caught him and Judges Bridges “might” have ordered a new election…..

    Might haves don’t change anything but your attitude when you get bitter thinking about what “might” have been.

  65. 516

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 8:10 pm

    I would be for appointing judges only if conservatives are the ones doing the appointing.

  66. 517

    sgmmac spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 8:11 pm

    #5

    Gidget,

    Bush never went awol……….

    You can claim it all you want to, but it isn’t a fact that is documented anywhere in his military records.

  67. 518

    My Left Foot spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 8:22 pm

    Instead of putting a former president on the defensive with regard to the “handling” of bin Laden, how about holding the current president accountable for his mishandling of the hunt for the world’s greatest terrorist, as well as for his exceptional deployment of weapons of “mass distraction.” Make no mistake, Iran is at least as irrelevant to the “war on terror” as Iraq. This administration’s jihad for global domination, whether it can be described as diabolical or otherwise, is at least as transparent as a Fox reporter’s efforts to pin the blame for global insurgency, and insurrection, on a previous president.

  68. 519

    Anonymous spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 8:26 pm

    wi’ant ya advertising your name any longer…. wi’ant ya, coward?

    I always though Jeane was a nice niddle name, do you?

  69. 520

    skagit spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 8:27 pm

    Smeg, you consent/approve when he/she comes up for reelection. You and Jim King! Honestly!

    That is precisely what I want to see changed. I want the money taken out of it. Judges should be nominated and approved and hang in for life in my opinion. That is the only way to insure that they are free of special interests.

    If they become corrupt or in some other way fail to do their jobs, they can be either impeached or criminally charged.

    Justice requires independence . . . and most judges – once in that honored position – do the ethical thing.

    If conservatives are in power, those appointments will likely be more conservative. If liberals are in power, those appointments will likely be more liberal. If both parties are in power – split government – probably very centrist judges will be approved.

    Finally, look at your own guy’s appointments to the Court, are they liberal? Did it work?

  70. 521

    sgmmac spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 8:28 pm

    At 2:15 p.m. Canadian custom agents, who do NOT carry guns, left all their posts for their personal safety.

    What a way to cut and run. I wonder how secure Canadians feel about their border security.

  71. 522

    skagit spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 8:29 pm

    RUFUCK: “Most of the credit goes to the republican congress elected in 1994.”

    Oh, was that the Congress that signed the contract with America? That contract that was never completed . . .

  72. 523

    Dan Rather spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 8:31 pm

    Bush never went awol……….

    You can claim it all you want to, but it isn’t a fact that is documented anywhere in his military records.

    Commentby sgmmac— 9/24/06@ 8:11 pm

    As a matter of fact I have stumble on some docum…… wait what was that Mary…… nevermind.

  73. 524

    skagit spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 8:32 pm

    “Bush never went awol……….

    You can claim it all you want to, but it isn’t a fact that is documented anywhere in his military records.

    Commentby sgmmac— 9/24/06@ 8:11 pm

    Don’t split hairs, Smeg, he went AWOL. He was absent working on daddy’s campaign. deception, deception, deception . . . man, you guys are good at it! You even fool yourselves.

  74. 525

    Anonymous spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 8:32 pm

    Finally, look at your own guy’s appointments to the Court, are they liberal? Did it work? -Commentby skagit— 9/24/06@ 8:27 pm

    Shit NO, it didn’t work… look at these miserable jerks and liberal lapdogs:
    John Paul Stevens (appointed by Ford),
    Anthony Kennedy (appointed by Reagan,
    David Souter {GAG!} appointed by Bush 41,
    Sandra Day O’Connor (appointed by Reagan}

  75. 526

    sgmmac spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 8:34 pm

    Gidget,

    All federal judges are appointed for life. In this state, they are elected, but still over 70% are appointed because of retirements, etc. If you want independent judges, the best way to get them is elections, not political appointments.

    Regardless of the hand wringing of Democrats, the federal appointments are working fairly well. There are some courts that lean left and some that lean right.

    If you want special interest out of politics, get rid of ALL PAC’s.

  76. 527

    skagit spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 8:34 pm

    Bush “might” have caught him, Clinton “might” have caught him and Judges Bridges “might” have ordered a new election…..

    Might haves don’t change anything but your attitude when you get bitter thinking about what “might” have been.

    Commentby sgmmac— 9/24/06@ 8:09 pm

    Bitter? Who’s bitter? We’re gonna win because the Resident Idiot has lied, cried, thrown enough public tantrums and, believe or not, most Americans don’t like torture . . .

    Just you military types seem to like torture . . .

  77. 528

    John Barelli spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 8:37 pm

    Commentby sgmmac— 9/24/06@ 6:33 pm

    “Of course you want to appoint all Judges and it isn’t to insure an impartial judiciary. It is to further the leftist agenda and taint the courts for decades to come……”

    Remembering that an appointed judiciary works both ways, I’m not altogether sure it is a good idea, but here in Washington, the idea is more to head off a right wing agenda that has already been signaled through the Groen candidacy.

    The Missouri system has a number of advantages, and a few disadvantages. Still, it would discourage the kind of campaign we recently saw.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missouri_Plan

    In reading over the way the system works, there are some pretty good checks on the Governor’s power, and the citizens get the last word on a justice that gets too far out of line.

    I can see how the system could be abused, but it would be more difficult than in other systems, and if an organization such as BIAW gets too annoyed with a justice, they could campaign for his/her removal, with the understanding that the replacement may not be any more to their liking.

    Essentially, a justice that is openly flaunting and abusing power could be removed, but nobody is likely to try to do so based solely on partisan preference.

    We’ve had Republican Governors before, and probably will again. I would expect that with the change of parties in power in Olympia, someone would likely try to vote out a few justices, so that the new Governor could appoint people more to his/her liking.

    Even so, the system would be less subject to manipulation than our current system. It’s worth a look.

  78. 529

    sgmmac spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 8:38 pm

    Gidget,

    It isn’t splitting hairs, Bush did what his superiors told him he could do. His commander never reported him missing or AWOL. It is very common for reservists to miss drills for school, campaigns, and thousands of other reasons.

    The KEY is – was it an approved authorized absence? The answer is YES, it was approved by his commader.

  79. 530

    Dan Rather spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 8:38 pm

    We need to get one more scalia,Thomas,Alito or Roberts on the SCOTUS to get it in balance with what the majority wants. I sure hope Ginsberg goes soon.

  80. 531

    sgmmac spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 8:40 pm

    @82

    Most Americans don’t want their heads chopped off either!

  81. 532

    skagit spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 8:42 pm

    “how about holding the current president accountable for his mishandling of the hunt for the world’s greatest terrorist, . . .

    Commentby My Left Foot— 9/24/06@ 8:22 pm

    Ah, c’mon MLF, don’t you know . . . ““So I don’t know where he is. You know, I just don’t spend that much time on him, Kelly, to be honest with you. These conservatives, just like their Resident Idiot, don’t fuckin’ care.

    At 2:15 p.m. Canadian custom agents, who do NOT carry guns, left all their posts for their personal safety.

    What a way to cut and run. I wonder how secure Canadians feel about their border security.

    Commentby sgmmac— 9/24/06@ 8:28 pm

    Well, Smeg, I guess the whole world is just full of cowards, stupid people and do-nothings except for you conservatives. Too bad everybody isn’t a Resident Idiot – then you’d all be happy.

  82. 533

    skagit spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 8:45 pm

    @82

    Most Americans don’t want their heads chopped off either!

    Commentby sgmmac— 9/24/06@ 8:40 pm

    fear mongering again? you guys sure are good at it!

  83. 534

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 8:46 pm

    Well, Smeg, I guess the whole world is just full of cowards, stupid people and do-nothings except for you conservatives. Too bad everybody isn’t a Resident Idiot – then you’d all be happy.

    Commentby skagit— 9/24/06@ 8:42 pm

    I am thankful the conservatives keep this country from becoming like the rest of the world. The rest of the world is a shit hole compared to this country.

  84. 535

    skagit spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 8:46 pm

    Barelli – I don’t wanna read Wikipedia. What’s the system?

  85. 536

    skagit spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 8:50 pm

    “Broken Bench
    In Tiny Courts of New York, Abuses of Law and Power
    By WILLIAM GLABERSON 3 minutes ago
    An investigation of New York State’s town and village courts found a trail of judicial abuses and errors — and of governmental failure to curb them.

    Just off the NY Times . . . maybe our society is so corrupt there is not fixing it. Judging from the contents of this blog and ASSxNINE clan that inhabits it, maybe we are all done for. We’ll be a third world country in thirty years.

  86. 537

    skagit spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 8:50 pm

    Well, RuFuck, you should know about shitholes! That’s one area I accept your expertise!

  87. 538

    americafirst spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 8:53 pm

    Not only is reading comprehension a problem for you, so is your memory. I would expect a bigger person to apologize, but knowing the miserable, sad, depressed, lonely, bitch (c**t) you are, I won’t expect one from you.
    You self-righteous, sanctimonious skank. Let me see you defend yourself now.
    Go fuck yourself.
    Commentby My Left Foot— 9/24/06@ 7:32 pm
    ===================================================
    Proud and Stupid Democrat Jew- You sure do have a lot to be proud about. That was a very clever post.

  88. 539

    skagit spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 8:57 pm

    Proud and Stupid Democrat Jew- You sure do have a lot to be proud about. That was a very clever post.

    Commentby americafirst— 9/24/06@ 8:53 pm

    Everybody take a look at this. This is the new conservative American. Proud, are you? All that’s missing is the sheet and the nazi cross.

  89. 540

    Anonymous spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 9:00 pm

    liberals todayrushing to recuse fellow crybabies.

  90. 541

    Anonymous spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 9:01 pm

    Not only is reading comprehension a problem for you, so is your memory. I would expect a bigger person to apologize, but knowing the miserable, sad, depressed, lonely, bitch (c**t) you are, I won’t expect one from you.
    You self-righteous, sanctimonious skank. Let me see you defend yourself now.
    Go fuck yourself. -Commentby My Left Foot— 9/24/06@ 7:32 pm

    Everybody take a look at this. This is the new liberal American. Proud, are you? All that’s missing is Hugo and the Larry Flint.

  91. 542

    americafirst spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 9:05 pm

    Everybody take a look at this. This is the new conservative American. Proud, are you? All that’s missing is the sheet and the nazi cross.
    Commentby skagit— 9/24/06@ 8:57 pm
    =============================================
    He routinely signs himself “Proud Democrat Jew.” I only added the stupid.

    Guess you’re real proud of him.

  92. 543

    Anonymous spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 9:05 pm

    liberals today rushing to RESCUE fellow crybabies.

  93. 544

    Anonymous spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 9:10 pm

    OUCH! That’s gonna hurt the moonbats!

  94. 545

    Blog Man spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 9:11 pm

    Goldy is a Jew that should be taken off the air…there are too many…Medved, Goldy, Prager, Larry King, etc

  95. 546

    Blog Man spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 9:13 pm

    We need a new perspective.

  96. 547

    Anonymous spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 9:19 pm

    you can’t compare 12 listener local goldy to NATIONWIDE (and far more intelligent) Medved… you’ll make goldy feeeel bad.

  97. 548

    skagit spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 9:21 pm

    Shit NO, it didn’t work… look at these miserable jerks and liberal lapdogs:
    John Paul Stevens (appointed by Ford),
    Anthony Kennedy (appointed by Reagan,
    David Souter {GAG!} appointed by Bush 41,
    Sandra Day O’Connor (appointed by Reagan}

    Commentby Anonymous— 9/24/06@ 8:32 pm

    See, that’s what I keep tryin’ to tell you ignoramouses! When people put on a justices robes, they get ethical and honest. It works! Thanks for the proof Assonymous!

  98. 549

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 9:25 pm

    Everybody take a look at this. This is the new conservative American. Proud, are you? All that’s missing is the sheet and the nazi cross.

    Commentby skagit— 9/24/06@ 8:57 pm

    Nahhh. The lefties do that work now. Take for example this:

    Haq’s friend said he couldn’t believe the timid, “geeky” man he knew from the tutoring center was capable of such violence.
    “Are you sure we’re talking about the same person?” he said Sunday………….
    He said Haq was not a devout Muslim and often complained that the Tri-Cities were too politically conservative.
    “I’m beginning to think I was his only friend in the Tri-Cities. I don’t recall him hanging out with anybody else.”
    Now for the other side we turn to Darryl’s story on HA July 30, 2006:
    Psssssssssstttttttt…….
    Ah it looks like the story was all a bunch of hot air. Well there you have it. Enjoy all you Nazi Libs.

  99. 550

    LauraBushKilledAGuy spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 9:35 pm

    96% of the child rapists busted on NBC Nightline have been republicans from religious, red states. Nuff said.

  100. 551

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 9:35 pm

    The ship be sinking for you dems. hehehehe

  101. 552

    My Left Foot spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 9:35 pm

    98 99 95

    You can attack my language all you want. I don’t care. I spent a career defending not only my right to say it, but your right to object. Bottom line, if you don’t like my language, or the fact that I defended myself against the groundless attack of proufofherfatlyingthreateningass, then don’t read the posts. By the way, nice job attacking the messenger, rather addressing the issue of a conservative outright lying on this blog (as if that is unusual).

    Now, go fuck yourself.

    (Skagit, thanks for the support)

    Carl Grossman
    Liberel, Democrat, Jew, Patriotic American

  102. 553

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 9:40 pm

    These gas prices are something else. Oil keeps on going down. It looks like gas will be as low as $2.20 a gallon by the end of the week. It is not even October yet.

  103. 554

    skagit spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 9:42 pm

    Rufuck: Nahhh. The lefties do that work now. Take for example this:

    Haq’s friend said he couldn’t believe the timid, “geeky” man he knew from the tutoring center was capable of such violence.
    “Are you sure we’re talking about the same person?” he said Sunday………….
    He said Haq was not a devout Muslim and often complained that the Tri-Cities were too politically conservative.
    “I’m beginning to think I was his only friend in the Tri-Cities. I don’t recall him hanging out with anybody else.”
    Now for the other side we turn to Darryl’s story on HA July 30, 2006:
    Psssssssssstttttttt…….
    Ah it looks like the story was all a bunch of hot air. Well there you have it. Enjoy all you Nazi Libs.

    Commentby RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy— 9/24/06@ 9:25 pm

    If anybody has a clue what this means, let me know. Otherwise, I don’t have the time or energy to waste . . .

  104. 555

    My Left Foot spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 9:43 pm

    Rufus,

    No one is fooled. The bounce is over. Manipulate. Don’t address an issue. Soundbites are better than solutions. Fear gets votes.

    My ass.

    You are sliding down a slippery slope with no hope of recovery.

  105. 556

    skagit spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 9:44 pm

    These gas prices are something else. Oil keeps on going down. It looks like gas will be as low as $2.20 a gallon by the end of the week. It is not even October yet.

    Commentby RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy— 9/24/06@ 9:40 pm

    Wow, you noticed! Maybe you’re not as dumb as you appear. Should hit bottom just about election time . . . then, we’ll watch her rise like a hot air balloon!

  106. 557

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 9:44 pm

    It is over your head Skagit. Let the proffesionals worry about the hard news. Please just continue spewing the usual lefty drivel and nevermind.

  107. 558

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 9:49 pm

    No one is fooled. The bounce is over. Manipulate. Don’t address an issue. Soundbites are better than solutions. Fear gets votes.

    Commentby My Left Foot— 9/24/06@ 9:43 pm

    Speaking of soundbites we need Hugo back. No better friend to the republican then him. Please dems stop defending Bush and let Hugo speak. hehehe

  108. 559

    Anonymous spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 9:55 pm

    yeeeehaw!… Bob must know carl

  109. 560

    Anonymous spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 9:57 pm

    Damn! this guy must know you ASSES…

  110. 561

    My Left Foot spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 10:00 pm

    Not much creedence given to anonymous posters who are not clever enough to come up with a moniker or man enough to use their real name.

    I do notice the deafening silence from proudofherfatuglylyingcheatingthreateningass. She must be drunk again (still). She types shit, then can’t remember typing it. Drunk or stupid? Which is it?

  111. 562

    Anonymous spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 10:02 pm

    Does America really need another Nude Erection?

  112. 563

    Happy spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 10:05 pm

    Bush will go down as the greatest visionary president of our time!

  113. 564

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 10:05 pm

    Hey Skagit listen to 117 and get back to me about that bounce you were talking about.

  114. 565

    americafirst spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 10:10 pm

    You can attack my language all you want. I don’t care. I spent a career defending not only my right to say it, but your right to object. Bottom line, if you don’t like my language, or the fact that I defended myself against the groundless attack of proufofherfatlyingthreateningass, then don’t read the posts. By the way, nice job attacking the messenger, rather addressing the issue of a conservative outright lying on this blog (as if that is unusual).
    Now, go fuck yourself.
    Commentby My Left Foot— 9/24/06@ 9:35 pm
    ====================================================
    Your career was probably signing welfare checks, dumbshit.

  115. 566

    skagit spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 10:29 pm

    “It is over your head Skagit. Let the proffesionals worry about the hard news. Please just continue spewing the usual lefty drivel and nevermind.

    Commentby RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy— 9/24/06@ 9:44 pm”

    In other words, Rufuck, you don’t know what it means either. Kinda dark in that shithole isn’t it?

  116. 567

    skagit spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 10:31 pm

    Your career was probably signing welfare checks, dumbshit.

    Commentby americafirst— 9/24/06@ 10:10 pm

    Well, better than collecting them, like you. . .

  117. 568

    Jim King spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 10:32 pm

    @75- Skagit, you brain-dead idiot- putting somebody on the bench by your power alone, as the Governor does, does NOT involve “consent”. You might compare our process to the federal one, where nobody gets on the bench (with the rare and limited exception of a recess appointment) without consent- and that is PRIOR consent!

    The Gov shoves a judge down our throat, and we have them on the bench- without consent. And even when we finally get a chance to toss their ass off the bench, we are stuck with the decisions made- without our consent.

    Govs have even been known to appoint someone to the bench AFTER the people had voted their ass off of the bench.

    Consent? Hardly. They are just subject to an election somewhere down the road. Now, Skagit, it is obvious from your postings that all that is too much for your pea brain to get a handle on, but try, for Gawds sake try…

    Okay, stop trying- the smell of rubber burning is just too much!

  118. 569

    skagit spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 10:33 pm

    or did we forget to send you yours?

  119. 570

    americafirst spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 10:33 pm

    Uh Kkklake @ 68
    Might want to read post 61. I wrote 58, you sanctimonious, pompous, arrogant, inbred, cocksucking, motherfucking asshole. Pay ATTENTION.
    Read thoroughly, Comprehend. You have proudofherfatlyingass disease.
    What a fucking moron. My name is known. My REAL FUCKING NAME. CARL GROSSMAN.
    Kiss my white Jewish ass you are the second dumbest, ignoranus (means stupid and an asshole) posting from the WingNut view.
    Dumbass!
    Commentby My Left Foot— 9/18/06@ 8:41 pm
    ==================================================
    Proud and Stupid Democrat Jew- Another post to make Democrats and Jews proud. Very clever.

  120. 571

    skagit spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 10:36 pm

    Ah, King, you are on the right blog finally . . . for you inane and stupid drivel surely belongs on Horses Ass. Careful or I might assign you to your rightful position as #9 in the ASSxNINE Clan. You keep missing the point. . . I want to change it. Currently, we have elections and we don’t have to have elections. Get it?

    Try real hard . . . I’ve heard that we lose 50,000 brain cells a day after the age of twenty – you must be real old.

  121. 572

    My Left Foot spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 10:36 pm

    The career I mentioned is military. Not really into revealing the details. I believe in my country, believe in the values it (should) represents. I did not sign welfare checks.

  122. 573

    skagit spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 10:38 pm

    Proud and Stupid Democrat Jew- Another post to make Democrats and Jews proud. Very clever.

    Commentby americafirst— 9/24/06@ 10:33 pm

    Is there any independent thinking that goes on in that memorex-occupied brain of yours? Any at all?

  123. 574

    Anonymous spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 10:42 pm

    carl is a whipped little mini-male who needs to denigrate others to make himself big. Ignore him.

    He has a lot in common with Kerry… they both have mommies named Teresa

    BTW, americafirst, did mini-male ever show up at the bar? Did he have a note from Teresa?

  124. 575

    Anonymous spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 10:43 pm

    Not really into revealing the details. -Commentby My Left Foot— 9/24/06@ 10:36 pm

    Give me a break… you swagger your name, your wifes name, her job… all the while forgetting your in the phone book you embecile.

  125. 576

    skagit spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 10:55 pm

    Assonymous – go to bed.

  126. 577

    My Left Foot spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 11:18 pm

    132

    Call me, if you think that there is only one Carl Grossman. I do swagger my name. I am man enough to back my words with my name, unlike you, anonymous. I only mentioned my wifes middle name and I am very proud of my family name and my wife. I am proud of the life I have led. Why don’t you drive on over and say hello. I will be at Danny’s on Friday, you are welcome too. No wife. Would not want her in harms way, should “something untoward” occur.

    Now, how about a name with your post? Guess not, no backbone, no name.

  127. 578

    skagit spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 11:23 pm

    GARY HART FOR PRESIDENT, 2008

  128. 579

    My Left Foot spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 11:25 pm

    132 Give me a break… you swagger your name, your wifes name, her job… all the while forgetting your in the phone book you embecile.

    Comment by Anonymous — 9/24/06 @ 10:43 pm

    Dear Mr. Anonymous,

    Embecile? You dumb fucking moron. Spell check is a great tool. IMBECILE is the correct spelling. For the definition, look in any mirror.

    My phone here has not rung. No car coming up the road to the house. Hmmmmmmm…

    You can’t play with cards you don’t have, anonymous.

  129. 580

    Richard Pope spews:

    Sunday, 9/24/06 at 11:52 pm

    Skagit @ 93

    Excellent article you linked from the New York Times of 09/25/2006, concerning the deplorable conduct in so many of their limited jurisdiction courts in New York:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09.....r=homepage

    Skagit @ 105

    You stated: “When people put on a justices robes, they get ethical and honest. It works!”

    Evidently, it doesn’t work too well in New York.

  130. 581

    Daddy Love spews:

    Monday, 9/25/06 at 6:37 am

    Anon @ 13

    “um, oh geee, maybe because he GWB wasn’t Prsident until 4 months after the Cole bombing…For that matter, when 9/11 happened he didn’t even have a complete cabinet in place.”

    So when a US warship is attacked, the president receives warnings that Osama bun Laden wants to strike in the US, inteligence services are telling him that al Qaeda cells are operting in the US, terrorist chatter has increased exponentially and FBI and CAI are convinced that “something big” is in the works, outgoing Clinton administration officials warn them to focus on terrorism in general and bin Laden in particular, we’re supposed to give Idiot Boy a pass because he was “busy?” Is that what you’re asking us to do? Would you give Clinton the same courtesy?

    Bush was so busy, in fact, that he took August off, capping off that first busy, busy eight months in office during which period, according to the Washington Post, he was on vacation forty-two percent of the time.

  131. 582

    Daddy Love spews:

    Monday, 9/25/06 at 6:38 am

    Anon has only Clown Hall op-eds to make his case for him? The last refuge of the illiterate.

  132. 583

    Mike Webb SUCKS spews:

    Monday, 9/25/06 at 6:44 am

    Thank you Leftisstupid for this opening:

    “Now that the intelligence community has come out with a report saying Bush’s fake war in Iraq has actually increased terrorism, well I can’t wait to see the lapel-pin, chickenhawk patriots on the right spin this one. Face it, you righties LIKE terrorism. You WANT terrorism. It serves your purpose. We need to put you criminals in jail where you belong and save America.
    Commentby RightEqualsStupid— 9/24/06@ 6:27 pm

    Wasn’t it the moron moonbat brigarde whop said “NO WMDs NO WMDs”. Who created that report. The NIE and the CIA is part of it. Now when the new NIE comes out, we’re to jump up and down and accept it carte blanche? Besides, who lllegally leaked it? Probably some donkocrap who is a low level grade 11 or some donkocongressional staff.

  133. 584

    Mike Webb SUCKS spews:

    Monday, 9/25/06 at 6:48 am

    Oh you’re not pbj? Goldy said you changed your handle? Cough it up coward. Commentby For the Clueless— 9/24/06@ 6:44 pm

    Either you are a liar or Goldy is breaking his pledge. I kind of trust you being the liar, searching for who posted those wonderful links.

  134. 585

    Mike Webb SUCKS spews:

    Monday, 9/25/06 at 6:57 am

    Is it just me or does anyone else think it’s odd that Bush Sr. was having breakfast with Osama’s dad when the plane hit the tower? Commentby RightEqualsStupid— 9/24/06@ 7:47 pm

    LeftHisTurdLostHisBrain: You’re killing me. Mohammed Bin Laden has been dead for over a decade. Yer killin’ me!

    Ha ha ha ha he he he he ho ho ho ho!

  135. 586

    Mike Webb SUCKS spews:

    Monday, 9/25/06 at 7:11 am

    Proud and Stupid Democrat Jew- You sure do have a lot to be proud about. That was a very clever post. Commentby americafirst— 9/24/06@ 8:53 pm

    Everybody take a look at this. This is the new conservative American. Proud, are you? All that’s missing is the sheet and the nazi cross. Commentby skagit— 9/24/06@ 8:57 pm

    Interesting comeback skagit. Where are the moonbats with their liberal attacks on George Allen having Jewish blood? I went back and I didn’t find “The Skagit Report” here on AssesHorse when I first posted it!

    A refersher for skagit:

    I have family in the DC area. This Virginia race is interesting between Jim Webb and George Allen. Writing now on more of Goldie’s ignorance to the left and how they hate Jews look at this:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/...../20/AR2006 092001965.html

    Henrietta “Etty” Allen said Wednesday that she concealed her upbringing as a Jew in North Africa from her children, including Sen. George Allen (R-Va.), until a conversation across the dining room table in late August.

    She said Allen asked her directly about his Jewish heritage when he was in Los Angeles for a fundraiser. “We sat across the table and he said, ‘Mom, there’s a rumor that Pop-pop and Mom-mom were Jewish and so were you,’ ” she recalled, a day after Allen issued a statement acknowledging and embracing his Jewish roots as he campaigns for a second term in the U.S. Senate.

    At the table in Palos Verdes, Calif., Allen’s mother, who is 83, said she told her son the truth: That she had been raised as a Jew in Tunisia before moving to the United States. She said that she and the senator’s father, famed former Redskins coach George Allen, had wanted to protect their children from living with the fear that she had experienced during World War II. Her father, Felix Lumbroso, was imprisoned by the Nazis during the German occupation of Tunis.

    “What they put my father through. I always was fearful,” Etty Allen said in a telephone interview. “I didn’t want my children to have to go through that fear all the time. When I told Georgie, I said, ‘Now you don’t love me anymore.’ He said, ‘Mom, I respect you more than ever.’ ”

    Now see the moonbats in action:

    “George Allen’s New Jew Revue” http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/41884/

    “They seriously want us to believe that Allen never knew why his grandfather was thrown in a concentration camp?” [actually, yes –.ed] http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/9/19/164828/708

    “[Allen has] something against Jews” http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/9/19/164828/708

    “[either] 1) he’s an anti-Jewish bigot, or 2) he’s afraid he’ll lose the bubba vote if people think he’s a Jew.” http://www.dailykos.com/storyo.....123120/518

    “George Allen has a nasty, sadistic, vicious, violent streak” http://www.raisingkaine.com/sh.....aryId=4573

    “What did [George Allen’s mother] tell her son all these years, that her father was imprisoned by the Nazis because he was gay or a gypsy?” http://americablog.blogspot.co.....her-didnt- bother.html

    I always thought DailyKos was a racist son-of-a-bitch and his kool-aid drinkers like Clueless, Tree Frog Farmer, Goldie, McCrainium, and other Furballettes here are Black, Hispanic and Jewish racists. Their own blogs prove it in their posts.

    You lib boys had an opportunity to bury Macacas as one idiot here called himself. Then there was Monkey Fest http://www.qando.net/Details.aspx?Entry=4544
    where lefties dressed as monkies to mimic black people speaking to Allen?

    Puddy is oh so right! Leftist loony tune libruls hate minorities!

    Oh So Clueless and other Moonbats: Using Kos to make a point will continue to paint you as a racist. Do you want the public to measure you for what you are or whom you associate with? Don’t use that arcane Air Force Academy issue against us because you have a KOS problem.

    So Skagit just shut up! Kos is much more racist than anyone here, and widely read!

  136. 587

    Mike Webb SUCKS spews:

    Monday, 9/25/06 at 7:18 am

    Embecile? You dumb fucking moron. Spell check is a great tool. IMBECILE is the correct spelling. For the definition, look in any mirror. My phone here has not rung. No car coming up the road to the house. Hmmmmmmm… You can’t play with cards you don’t have, anonymous.
    Commentby My Left Foot— 9/24/06@ 11:25 pm

    At least you chose a word to denigrate Anonymous on. Remember Purposedly Teresa?

  137. 588

    Mike Webb SUCKS spews:

    Monday, 9/25/06 at 7:21 am

    Carl: KLake is career military. I realize the brain matter in the Grossman household resides in the female member and maybe the son, but try, try to remember facts!

  138. 589

    LauraBushKilledAGuy spews:

    Monday, 9/25/06 at 7:48 am

    Why is it that Bush didn’t do ANYTHING about the Cole? He was in office eight months before 9.11 and had plenty of time to retaliate. Is Bush soft on terror? Are the strong family ties between the Bushs and the bin Ladens a factor in Bush’s failures?

  139. 590

    LauraBushKilledAGuy spews:

    Monday, 9/25/06 at 7:49 am

    9.11 happened on Bush’s watch. No amount of spin from the retarded right will ever change that. All throughout history for hundreds of years, a republican president will be tied to the failure of 9.11.

  140. 591

    LauraBushKilledAGuy spews:

    Monday, 9/25/06 at 7:50 am

    Now that we’ve PROVEN America is less safe than it was before Bush’s war for oil, Dems ought to buy full page ads in every paper in America showing what the intel community thinks of Bush’s phoney war.

  141. 592

    skagit spews:

    Monday, 9/25/06 at 8:13 am

    Skagit @ 105

    You stated: “When people put on a justices robes, they get ethical and honest. It works!”

    Evidently, it doesn’t work too well in New York.

    Commentby Richard Pope— 9/24/06@ 11:52 pm

    Disheartening, yes. This administration has made corruption the norm.

    But, it was outed – right? Do elections made it more or less corrupt? Are you going to be different? It was outed – right?

    So, what do you propose that will achieve better?

  142. 593

    For the Clueless spews:

    Monday, 9/25/06 at 8:17 am

    Don’t use that arcane Air Force Academy issue against us because you have a KOS problem.

    WOS(aka Puddybud) – you’re insane. I’m going to beat you over the head every chance I get until you condemn the hard-core Christian theocratic anti-semites at CO Springs who are trying to dominate the U.S. Air Force and the rest of the military.

    Every chance!

    I never click on your lame links. If there’s anti-semitism on Kos, it’s been planted by YOUR side.

    ‘Cuz that’s your side’s style.

  143. 594

    jaybo spews:

    Monday, 9/25/06 at 8:34 am

    This is why the U.N. is a waste of our time…..

    TIBNIN, Lebanon, Sept. 24 — One month after a United Nations Security Council resolution ended a 34-day war between Israel and Lebanon’s Hezbollah militia, members of the international force sent to help keep the peace say their mission is defined more by what they cannot do than by what they can.

    The New York Times
    United Nations officials in Tibnin say part of their job is to stay neutral.

    They say they cannot set up checkpoints, search cars, homes or businesses or detain suspects. If they see a truck transporting missiles, for example, they say they can not stop it. They cannot do any of this, they say, because under their interpretation of the Security Council resolution that deployed them, they must first be authorized to take such action by the Lebanese Army.
    The job of the United Nations force, and commanders in the field repeat this like a mantra, is to respect Lebanese sovereignty by supporting the Lebanese Army. They will only do what the Lebanese authorities ask.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09.....r=homepage

  144. 595

    Richard Pope spews:

    Monday, 9/25/06 at 10:13 am

    Skagit @ 153

    I would start by being fair, honest and competent.

    I will make sure that all defendants have the right to a lawyer, a fair trial, fair hearings, and reasonable decision-making.

    And I certainly would never sentence someone with no prior criminal record to serve 375 days in jail for underage drinking, like Ottinger did to Sara Totten:

    http://archives.seattletimes.n.....y=ottinger

    Ottinger was disciplined because she denied this young lady the right to an attorney. But I think the bizarrely harsh sentence for underage drinking on someone with a clean record even more strongly demonstrates Ottinger’s unfitness for re-election.

    Unfortunately, I don’t think you will ever see Goldy doing any expose’ on Ottinger, like he has done on me.

  145. 596

    antidote spews:

    Monday, 9/25/06 at 10:21 am

    Is torture an American value? President Bush and the Republican leadership seem to think so.

  146. 597

    Daddy Love spews:

    Monday, 9/25/06 at 10:22 am

    MWS @ 144

    Wasn’t it the moron moonbat brigarde whop said “NO WMDs NO “WMDs””

    Umm, there weren’t any.

  147. 598

    Richard Pope spews:

    Monday, 9/25/06 at 10:22 am

    If Sara Totten had been convicted of a felony in superior court, instead of having the misfortune of appearing before the Honorable Mary Ann Ottinger in district court, she would have needed to commit a relatively serious felony before getting sentenced to more than one year in jail on the first offense.

    RCW 9.94A.510 is the sentencing grid, and you have to be a Level VI to get more than one year (12-14 months) on the first offense:

    http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/def.....=9.94A.510

    RCW 9.94A.515 is the list of crimes included within each seriousness level:

    http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/def.....=9.94A.515

    These are the types of felonies in Level VI that Ottinger evidently thinks are just as serious are underage drinking — at least in the case of Sara Totten:

    Bail Jumping with Murder 1 (RCW 9A.76.170(3)(a))
    Bribery (RCW 9A.68.010)
    Incest 1 (RCW 9A.64.020(1))
    Intimidating a Judge (RCW 9A.72.160)
    Intimidating a Juror/Witness (RCW 9A.72.110, 9A.72.130)
    Malicious placement of an imitation device 2 (RCW 70.74.272(1)(b))
    Possession of Depictions of a Minor Engaged in Sexually Explicit Conduct (RCW 9.68A.070)
    Rape of a Child 3 (RCW 9A.44.079)
    Theft of a Firearm (RCW 9A.56.300)
    Unlawful Storage of Ammonia (RCW 69.55.020)

  148. 599

    Daddy Love spews:

    Monday, 9/25/06 at 10:26 am

    MWS @ 147

    Yeah, what Allen’s Mom says about it now that Allen’s whole campaign is blowing up in his face is what we should believe. Uh-huh.

  149. 600

    My Left Foot spews:

    Monday, 9/25/06 at 11:35 am

    MWS at too many to mention:

    Fuck you. No online dictionary that I checked has “purposedly” listed. It is an archaic word that you got lucky on. As for KKKlake, I don’t print and catalog what everyone says here. I deal with each thread each day and then move on. Here is something for you. USC class of ’78, magna cum laude. MBA, Marshall School of Business. Teresa likes me for my mind and my body.

    While I treasure my education, I did it mostly to please my mother, my heart was always in the military, my father was my hero. I enlisted, completed basic training, OCS was next, I received my commission as second lieutenant. The rest is now history.

    Now, take your silly ass and go sit down in the corner. You are not nearly as intelligent as you believe yourself to be. In fact, in matters of politics, human decency and manners, you are completely ignorant and devoid of any hope for improvement in this lifetime.

  150. 601

    Anonymous spews:

    Monday, 9/25/06 at 12:32 pm

    Dear carl, did you know zillow.com values your home at a mere $332,721? Did you know it DROPPED in $2321 value just in the last week?

    That’s pretty damned sad for a ‘retired guy’ living off his wife. …get a job, carl, christ you’re BELOW the area median.

    Residence: Single family
    Bedrooms: 4
    Bathrooms: 1.75
    Sq ft: 1,900
    Lot size: 7,344 sq ft / 0.17 acres
    Year built: 1979
    Year updated: —
    # Stories: 1
    Total rooms: —
    Basement: Finished
    Roof type: —
    Primary exterior material: —
    View: Mountain
    Primary parking type: Garage – Attached
    Covered parking spaces: —
    Primary heating source: —
    Primary heating system: Forced air
    Primary cooling system: —
    Architectural style: —
    Fireplace: Yes
    Swimming pool: —
    Waterfront: —
    County: King
    Parcel #: PURPOSELY DELETED TO PROTECT THE STUPID
    Zillow Home ID: PURPOSELY DELETED TO PROTECT THE STUPID
    Legal description: ** **** LAKES #** TGW UND INT TRACT **
    (PURPOSELY ALTERED TO PROTECT THE STUPID
    Zestimate: $332,721

    Dear carl, did you know your neighbor CC’s house is worth $314,311 (his fell $2,566 last week), while neighbor MC’s is worth $335, 331 (his fell $3,870 last week)?

    Dear carl, wi’ant you ask someone the significance of CH1J27?

    Dear carl, wi’ant you telling us all about your meeting with americafirst?

    Dear carl, wi’ant you answering the questions put to you?

    Just one more question Dear carl, why would a woman presumably smart enough to pass the bar waste time with a mini-male like you?

  151. 602

    Daddy Love spews:

    Monday, 9/25/06 at 12:39 pm

    What we the People know to be true:

    • Bush let bin Laden go at Tora Bora because he was moving our Special Forces assets to Iraq.
    • Bush has made the terrorism problem in the world worse because of Iraq. Instead of going after the real threat, he went to war against Saddam Hussein who had nothing to do with 9/11. Bush NEVER goes after the real terror threat.
  152. 603

    Daddy Love spews:

    Monday, 9/25/06 at 12:41 pm

    It took me a while, Anonymous, but your style is unmistakable.

  153. 604

    Anonymous spews:

    Monday, 9/25/06 at 1:01 pm

    My phone here has not rung. No car coming up the road to the house. Hmmmmmmm…

    You can’t play with cards you don’t have, anonymous. -Commentby My Left Foot— 9/24/06@ 11:25 pm

    Tsk, tsk,tsk ‘carl’… caller ID and *69… I think not sweetcheeks.

    But I’ll tell you what…. teh very next time I come to the Costco out your way… you know the one, next to Home depot, across from Lowes and caddy-corner from that brand new shopping center… I’ll swing on by… the E320 tooling and tooting past will be me. Be sure to give me the princess wave, sweetcheeks.

  154. 605

    Mike Webb SUCKS spews:

    Monday, 9/25/06 at 5:09 pm

    WOS(aka Puddybud) – you’re insane. I’m going to beat you over the head every chance I get until you condemn the hard-core Christian theocratic anti-semites at CO Springs who are trying to dominate the U.S. Air Force and the rest of the military.
    Every chance! I never click on your lame links. If there’s anti-semitism on Kos, it’s been planted by YOUR side.
    ‘Cuz that’s your side’s style. Commentby For the Clueless— 9/25/06@ 8:17 am

    Oh So Clueless: Still waiting for you to prove I am Puddy. Did your concubine relate this to you? Do your friends know you’re a wife beater?

    Allen is still ahead:

    RCP Average 09/05 – 09/12 – 48.0 43.3 7.7 Allen +4.7
    Rasmussen 09/12 – 09/12 500 LV 50 43 7 Allen +7.0
    SurveyUSA 09/10 – 09/12 467 LV 48 45 4 Allen +3.0
    Mason-Dixon 09/05 – 09/07 625 LV 46 42 12 Allen +4.0

    http://www.realclearpolitics.c.....ce-14.html

  155. 606

    Mike Webb SUCKS spews:

    Monday, 9/25/06 at 5:11 pm

    Oh So Clueless Concubine Lover: We don’t post on Kos. It soils us. Too bad you don’t read what moonbats post on Kos. I understand it’s your blog of record!

  156. 607

    For the Clueless spews:

    Monday, 9/25/06 at 5:15 pm

    WOS – I’ll borrow a Puddyism – Go to HellanWait!!!

    You’re an Allen man? Of course, it makes sense. Racist name-calling and “standing with” a group of racists for a little photo-op?

    It’s RIGHT up your alley WOS.

  157. 608

    Mike Webb SUCKS spews:

    Monday, 9/25/06 at 5:16 pm

    Carl told me: Fuck you. No online dictionary that I checked has “purposedly” listed. It is an archaic word that you got lucky on. As for KKKlake, I don’t print and catalog what everyone says here. I deal with each thread each day and then move on. Here is something for you. USC class of ‘78, magna cum laude. MBA, Marshall School of Business. Teresa likes me for my mind and my body.

    Carl: I posted three on-line dictionary postings for purposedly. I wouldn’t fuck you with JCH’s dick!

    Regarding KLake, you have no working memory cells. He is a Great American! Teresa likes you for the brainless man you are!

  158. 609

    Mike Webb SUCKS spews:

    Monday, 9/25/06 at 5:18 pm

    HowCan, good informational on Left Foot.

    Carl: Can you find the same stuff on HowCan? I doubt it.

  159. 610

    Mike Webb SUCKS spews:

    Monday, 9/25/06 at 5:19 pm

    Oh So Clueless: You lost? Can’t think of anything useful? Cat got your tongue? Why are you a wife beater? Why do you like concubines?

  160. 611

    Mike Webb SUCKS spews:

    Monday, 9/25/06 at 5:22 pm

    HowCan: I noticed Carl’s house is forced hot air. Is that from his mouth or his ass?

  161. 612

    For the Clueless spews:

    Monday, 9/25/06 at 5:25 pm

    We don’t post on Kos.

    Oh yes you do. It’s a fact.

    Nothing is beneath you scumbags because all you care about is power. You’ll do anything to keep it: lie, cheat, steal, start phony wars, hack voting machines, suppress votes, divide Americans on wedge issues and pay thugs like you to paste whacko talking points in comment threads.

    At the end of the day, that’s what you’ve turned to be WOS – a thug.

    Me? I’m just an ordinary American citizen trying to keep his head above water and keep assholes like you from destroying my kid’s future any more than you already have.

  162. 613

    For the Clueless spews:

    Monday, 9/25/06 at 5:27 pm

    Oh by the way, WOS (Wingnut Obsessions Suck)

    Fuck you.

  163. 614

    Mike Webb SUCKS spews:

    Monday, 9/25/06 at 5:31 pm

    Oh SO Clueless Concubine Lover: If you actually read the three KOS links, the jackass himself commented on the entries. But in your moronic stupidity, you dismiss it. I know why. In you heart you can’t understand how could KOS be against Goldie’s people. I understand it well.

    Nothing is beneath you scumbags because all you care about is power. You’ll do anything to get it: vote against your people, lie, cheat, steal, go bananas on Fox, hack voting machines, suppress votes in your won districts, divide Americans on wedge issues and pay thugs like you to paste whacko talking points in comment threads.

  164. 615

    For the Clueless spews:

    Monday, 9/25/06 at 8:06 pm

    If you actually read the three KOS links,

    I don’t take orders from thugs like you! Post all the links you want – I won’t click on them.

    Spew all the bat-shit crazy wingnut propanganda you care to. I scroll right past.

    All you’re doing is jerking yourself off. Piss away your worthless life. It’s your choice.

“The David Goldstein Show” tonight on Newsradio 710-KIRO

by Goldy — Sunday, 9/17/06, 3:05 pm

It’s BIAW-Bashing Night, tonight on “The David Goldstein Show” on Newsradio 710-KIRO, 7PM to 10PM. The lineup could change in response to breaking news, but here’s what I think I’ll be talking about tonight:

7PM: Few right-wing groups are more vocal than the Building Industry Association of Washington (BIAW), which is in the midst of shattering campaign finance records by spending millions of dollars to put their hand-picked candidates on the state Supreme Court. But one hot-button topic they’ve been silent on is the issue of illegal immigration… and now we know why: as the Seattle Times reports today anywhere from 50 to 90 percent of residential construction workers are Latino immigrants, many of them illegal. Did the BIAW bust the unions and replace them with low cost, illegal workers? Are you willing to crack down on immigration if the result is dramatically higher food and housing costs?

8PM: Over $1.8 million has already been spent on behalf of right-wing Supreme Court challenger John Groen, most of it viciously characterizing Chief Justice Gerry Alexander as a senile, baby-killing boozer. What if anything can be done to prevent wealthy special interests like the BIAW from buying the bench? Terry Sullivan from Washington Public Campaigns joins me to discuss public financing of elections, an idea whose time may finally have come. Are you willing to pay to get big money out of local politics?

9PM: We continue our evening of BIAW-bashing when Seattle P-I political columnist Joel Connelly joins me in the studio. In addition to discussing our disgraceful judicial elections, I’m guessing we’ll also touch upon GOP evil-mastermind Karl Rove’s visit this week on behalf of Rep. Dave “Rubberstamp” Reichert, and the state of the US Senate race between Sen. Maria Cantwell and challenger Mike?™ McGavick.

Tune in tonight (or listen to the live stream) and give me a call: 1-877-710-KIRO (5476).

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  1. 616

    My Left Foot spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 3:26 pm

    Is it correct to call Mike? the challenger? He claims he is running a primary campaign against Republican challengers. If he keeps going in the direction he has set for himself, he may lose that race.

    Har Har Har Har (deep breath) Har Har Har Har

  2. 617

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 3:52 pm

    Here is the construction industry’s position on taxes.

    Step 1: Around 1900 or so, Washington employers accept a state-administered system of no-fault insurance for injured workers in exchange for tort immunity for workplace accidents.

    Step 2: The state collects insurance premiums from employers to pay for injured workers’ medical care and partial replacement of lost earnings.

    Step 3: Unlike private insurance companies, the state refunds any premiums that aren’t needed for medical care, wage-loss payments, and administrative expenses to the employers.

    Step 4: Employers join private organizations like BIAW who act as intermediaries and collect the refunds for them, who spend the refunds on political contributions and campaign advertising.

    Step 5: Employers bitch about high industrial insurance “taxes.”

    Roger Rabbit suggestion: Hey, if you’re an employer and want to reduce your workers’ comp premiums, fire the fucking BIAW, stop spending your refunds on political propaganda, and buy your wife a new set of dishes or take her out to a nice eatery! Du-uh … it ain’t rocket scientist, dummies!

  3. 618

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 3:54 pm

    Hey Goldy, why don’t you talk about UFOs? Here’s my beef with UFOs. They kidnap right-wing paranoiacs, fill their heads with shit, then dump them back on earth! We already have more garbage than we can get rid of — I think the aliens should kill them after completing their sexual experiments!

  4. 619

    Jim King spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 3:55 pm

    Are we goin to start bashing immigrants, now? For shame…

    As for any union-busting, Goldie- when was the last time there was any significant union presence in residential construction?

    I remember union workers in the residential market- my father was a union carpenter. There hasn’t been a significant union presence in the residential market in three decades- and we’ve seen the rise of the Hispanic work force in the residential market in just the past five years or so. So where do you get the union-busting, Goldie? More invented facts?

    In fact, what has happened in the residential construction market is that the smaller, local contractors have been forced out, and larger developers- often from outsdide the area- now dominate. You might bother to read the articles in today’s Olympian to find out what has finally happened in the outlying arteas of Puget Sound- and which is what happened in the inner areas yars ago- http://159.54.227.3/apps/pbcs....../609170383

    There is- and has been for years- a problem with an underground economy in construction. Non-registered contractors, paying under the table and below scale, not paying taxes, worker comp premiums, or anything else- and aided and abetted by Home Depot and others who sell materials off the books. Legitimate contractor groups- including BIAW- have fought hard for the enforcement of the laws against this type of activity. Our outgoing L&I director, Gary Weeks, had his regional administrators make themselves available evenings and weekends so we can catch these operations.

    But that was all occurring before the growth in the Hispanic workforce.

    In fact, you might remember that the painters who walked off the job May 1st, and who were eventually hired back, were union members, making union scale. The Hispaniocs- legal or illegal- are becoming dominant in this workforce because they are willing to work, and work hard- unlike the lazy white boys.

    The Hispanics workin for the drywall contractors I’ve represented are making $20 to $30 an hour, plus benefits. And the contractors are taking every legal step to verify immigration status. But what the Times forgot to say is that if a contractor insists on looking past the face of the documents provided, they’ll get sued by the very liberal groups that are so concerned about the downtrodden worker. They show up with an authentic looking Social Security card, and a valid Washington state drivers license, and you’d better not ask any other questions.

    But, o course, this is about BIAW bashing, not about shedding light on any given issue- even if these contractors are members o BIAW only because the state runs an inadequate worker comp program so yo HVE to join a retro program to keep costs nder control. No, no need to go looking for the real issues when we can just get up on our high horse and flail away at “the enemy”, and collateral damage be damned.

    Again, shame on you Goldie.

  5. 620

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 3:58 pm

    Just a reminder before the election, folks … Roger Rabbit has REVOKED his “lesser evil” endorsement of Richard Pope for Northeast District Court because the King County Bar Association rated Richard “not qualified” for the position. Hey, I feel sorry for Richard and wouldn’t wish his personal problems on anyone except Mark the Welsher, but if he can’t even run his law practice then he sure as hell can’t run a court! There is no good candidate for Northeast District Court, but Frank LaSalata only THREATENED to throw small claims litigants into jail — there’s no proof he actually did it! So, despite his big mouth, Frank gets my endorsement as the lesser evil among the candidates running for the position. Hold your nose, vote for him, and pray to God you never have to appear in his court!

  6. 621

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 3:59 pm

    Jim King complaining about immigrant bashing is like Saddam complaining about prison food.

  7. 622

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 4:00 pm

    4

    Hey Jim — you got something against AMERICANS working in those $20 to $30 an hour jobs?

  8. 623

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 4:01 pm

    Instead of spending taxpayer money to fence out Mexicans, we could do a better job of protecting American workers by building a fence around the Republicans.

  9. 624

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 4:05 pm

    Speaking of fences, we’ve heard a lot of blather about “free speech” from wingnuts in response to liberal criticism of ABC’s fictional propaganda film “The Path to 9/11” so I just thought I’d remind you all what the organizers of the 2004 Republican National Convention thought of free speech:

    http://tinyurl.com/pkr2t

  10. 625

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 4:09 pm

    To order your DVD copy of “The Path to 9/11,” click here: http://tinyurl.com/l4swz

  11. 626

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 4:11 pm

    I wonder if Stefan is going to do an expose about this policitican using public property for campaigning? http://tinyurl.com/ldwt8

  12. 627

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 4:12 pm

    politician, I mean

  13. 628

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 4:13 pm

    I predict Stefan will make an issue of Bush flying around the country in Air Force One to make campaign appearances about the same time he splits the proceeds of his lawsuit against Dean Logan and King County with the generous donors to his “legal action fund” who paid for the lawsuit.

  14. 629

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 4:14 pm

    Roger Rabbit has posted 85.7% of the comments on this thread! If you don’t like it, take a deep breath, bend over, and suck your dick.

  15. 630

    Jim King spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 4:19 pm

    Roger Rabbit- you don’t know what you are talking about, at all.

    In the early part of the century- 1911, to be exact- worker’s comp was put in place for a few high-risk industries. It was not extended to all employers until the Dan Evans administration, in 1972. Large employers are allowed to self-insure, and- starting about 1980, groups of like employers were allowed to band together in “retro programs” to handl their claims.

    Unfortunately, the only part that Roger Rabbit got correct was that the state assesses taxes to pay for the program. The state doesn’t refund to intermediaries like BIAW. Groups like BIAW run the retro programs- and the retro programs, like the self-insureds, seem to be able to handle the program for one-third less than the state does.

    those employers participating in a retro program get back the excess premims. Those stuck in the state-administered program get nada. Is it any wonder that employers join retro programs?

    The BIAW keeps 20% of the refunded premiums, from which it runs its programs. It pay the claims administrators and all the other employees of the program. And- because the state program is so expensive- the rebates back to privately administrated programs are quite large. Out of those rebates, that 20% also provides a lot of money that wouldn’t otherwise be available for political action. And the rebates wouldn’t be so large if the state ran a program- and charged premims- comparable to what the self-insureds and the retro programs do.

    So, yes, employers- especially those stick in the state-administered program- bitch about the high worker comp premiums.

    And if the state ran an efficient and well-administered program, they wouldn’t be over-charging at the front-end, and providing such a wonderful source of funding for BIAW at the back end.

    But people like Roger Rabbit won’t tell you the real story- the state of Washington is the BIAW enabler. Clean up L&I, and you’d dry up BIAW.

  16. 631

    Jim King spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 4:24 pm

    So Roger Rabbit- you are a bad as the right-wing xenophobes bashing the Hispanics. You got a problem with an Hispanic being an American? Anti-Catholic, anti-brown skin and brown eyes, or what, you miserable fucking racist. You just lost what little respect I had for you- but we will see the left-wing racists show their true colors, just like we did with the Senate Democrat comparing immigrants at the border fence to terroristand whacked out North Korean dictators. You are just as evil as Sharkansky.

  17. 632

    Jim King spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 4:25 pm

    Roger Rabbit has posted 100% of the racist comments on this thread. If you agree with him, you should be ashamed of yourself.

  18. 633

    rhp6033 spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 4:40 pm

    I didn’t come to Washington State until 1979, so I haven’t been aware of what kind of Workman’s Compensation system was existent in Washington before that date.

    But if they didn’t make Workman’s Compensation universal until 1972, no wonder the Union movement was so strong here! Of course, by the time you have the large (unionized) employers like Boeing covered by Union contract, and railroad employees and sailors and fishermen covered by federal law, then only small employers would have their employees at risk. Even so, other states generally had workmen’s compensation extended universally long before 19y2, including such “left-wing” states as Tennessee!

  19. 634

    LauraBushKilledAGuy spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 5:07 pm

    Interesting point about the BIAW Goldy. The right wingers are at odds among themselves over illegal immigration. The old line fiscal conservatives *the group than ran the party before it sold its soul to the taliban-loving Christian right* these folks LOVE illegal immigrants. They can exploit the immigrant population and make more money. This wing of the GOP has fought TOOTH AND NAIL to stop any real immigration reform. The extreme, bible-thumpin, racist wing of the party, i.e. the George Allen, Pat Robertson, Ralph Reed, Jerry Falwell wing, they want to stop ANY non-white, native-born person from entering the US. Their Nazi-KKK roots compel them to go after immigration no matter what the cost to the more moderate, fiscal conservatives.

    Personally, I see this as great news. In the past, the GOP rarely violated Regan’s 11th Commandment, thou shalt not talk ill of another republican. But lately, they’ve shreded that rule like they’ve shreded the US Constitution. All we have to do is talk immigration and watch both fucked up wings of the GOP self-destruct. Then Jim Queen and his dick-sucking pals at BIAW will be in a real quandry.

  20. 635

    LauraBushKilledAGuy spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 5:09 pm

    I also think it’s noteworthy that in almost every state, complaints against builders for fraud, theft and shoddy workmanship top almost any other profession. They are an accross the board bunch of thieves, crooks and liars. Makes them perfect republicans.

  21. 636

    Jim King spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 5:20 pm

    As`we see more racists pop up on the left- they want the votes of the Hispanics, but they don’t want them in their communities- or marrying their daughters. Maybe nannying their children is okay…

    At least some of us descendents of illegal immigrants are not out to close the doors. Leftist hypocrisy is out and about…

  22. 637

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 5:20 pm

    Any one listening to the Laura Flanders show ? She is a good warm up to the goldy show

    http://www.airamerica.com/lauraflanders/

  23. 638

    Jim King spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 5:25 pm

    What is interesting about the rise in shoddy building is that it matches the rise of corporate developers replacing your local home builder. Who gave the edge to the corporate developer?- it was our dear sweet liberals with their corporate state and high-priced rules and regulations, moratoria, and every other act they’ve passed that increases the price of housing.

    Gee, who was one of the lady chairs of the state House that jammed growth management down our throats, and paved the way for the rise of corporate builders- Maria Cantwell? She’s been screwing more than Dotzauer for decades…

    With the BIAW, the Democrats are simply reaping what they had sown- but why do the rest of us have to suffer?

  24. 639

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 5:29 pm

    It is strange now Goldy is the only show I really listen too from kiro any more.

    How far the mighty have fallen :-/

  25. 640

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 5:31 pm

    #30

    Well that is why I voted for Hong Trans

  26. 641

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 5:33 pm

    Besides the fact Hong is a HOTTIE!!!!

  27. 642

    Jim King spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 5:42 pm

    Socialist- Yes, Hong is a hottie- and she has one hell of a story to tell. Her politics way to the left of mine, but I admire her- not just for carrying a banner she believes in into the political campaign (and no selling out) but because of her personal story… Isn’t it what we are supposed to be about?

    Of course, she’d better not ask Roger Rabbit for a job…

  28. 643

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 5:42 pm

    Thank Gawd the republicans were not in charge in ww2 or we would all be speaking german and eating sushi 7 nights a week :-(

  29. 644

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 5:55 pm

    Well compared to me she is pretty moderate. I would like for us to become a true Socialist Country. And Nationalize all the oil companies . Well ok all companies except small mom and pop stores .

    Put the workers in charge of all the big corporation were instead of being run like a Feudal kingdom like they are now they would be run like a democracy were the workers would elect an C.E.O.

  30. 645

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 6:02 pm

    All social wealth, the land with all its natural resources hidden in its bowels and on the surface, and all factories and works must be taken out of the hands of the exploiters and taken into common property of the people. The first duty of a real workers’ government is to declare by means of a series of decrees the most important means of production to be national property and place them under the control of society.

  31. 646

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 6:04 pm

    Works of Karl Marx 1847
    Wage Labour and Capital

    Table of Contents:

    Introduction
    Preliminary
    What are wages?
    By what is the price of a commodity determined?
    By what are wages determined?
    The nature and growth of capital
    Relation of wage-labor to capital
    The general law that determines the rise and fall of wages and profit
    The interests of capital and wage-labor are diametrically opposed
    Effect of capitalist competition on the capitalist class, middle class and working class

    http://www.marxists.org/archiv...../index.htm

  32. 647

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 6:06 pm

    True Socialisum has yet to really be tried yet.

  33. 648

    For the Clueless spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 6:09 pm

    Jim King – you’ve gone on a real bender on this thread. Next you’ll be be blaming the epidemic in obesity and heart disease on the Teddy Roosevelt and the FDA! Sheesh!

  34. 649

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 6:23 pm

    Actually I would have to say the F.D.A. has little to do with worrying about the safety of anyone except the safety of the big corporation to make as much profit as possible at the expense of all of our health.

    Bush has pretty much put the dug company lobbyist in control of the F.D.A.

    How do you think E-colie ends up in processed packaged spinage for christ sake .

  35. 650

    Jim King spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 6:28 pm

    How appropos, “Clueless”- not intelligent enough to follow from acts to consequnces?

  36. 651

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 6:31 pm

    And if you don’t think we are in a class war you are sorely mistaken.

    And we are loosing badly to the rich and powerful . Why do you think the Building industry and republicans are putting so much money in to washington supreme court races?

  37. 652

    LauraBushKilledAGuy spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 6:45 pm

    As`we see more racists pop up on the right – they want the votes of the Hispanics, but they don’t want them in their communities- or marrying their daughters. Maybe nannying their children is okay…

    At least some of us descendents of illegal immigrants are not out to close the doors. Rightie hypocrisy is out and about…

  38. 653

    LauraBushKilledAGuy spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 6:46 pm

    Jimmy Queen’s defense is “The evil Democrats made us do it.”

    Man talk about some weak shit.

    No Queen, your builder buddies are and always have been crooks, just like the rest of the political wackjobs on the right!

  39. 654

    Jim King spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 7:00 pm

    Some fools just don’t pay attention. And after they get whupassed on this board, they run away and hide, then come back with a new name, but the same old limp dick…

  40. 655

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 7:08 pm

    “At least some of us descendents of illegal immigrants are not out to close the doors.”

    Commentby LauraBushKilledAGuy [If you don’t have a green card, BACK TO MEXICO!!!!!]

  41. 656

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 7:09 pm

    “True Socialisum has yet to really be tried yet.”

    Commentby The Socialist, Hillary, Fidel, Kim Jong-Il, Robert Mugabe, Joe Stalin, and Carl Grossman

  42. 657

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 7:11 pm

    “Well compared to me she is pretty moderate. I would like for us to become a true Socialist Country. And Nationalize all the oil companies .”

    Commentby The Socialist aka Fidel Castro aka Hillary Clinton

  43. 658

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 7:16 pm

    lol

  44. 659

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 7:18 pm

    I am still unconfortable with Hillery

    i still think she is really a capitolest pig at heart

  45. 660

    Drivel spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 7:26 pm

    Jimmy Q @ 46, speaking of limp dicks…what’s your new bf’s name? John C. (pee wee) Herman?

  46. 661

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 7:30 pm

    I actually don’t consider Fidel Castro a true Socialist.

    All though he has enacted many good Socialist Policies I agree with National health care and education for all citizens of Cuba on up threw collage.

    But he is basically a dictator and that has no place in Socialism.

    That is why I say there really hasn’t been a true Socialist Country yet . I am hoping we will be the first some day.

  47. 662

    Jim King spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 7:38 pm

    @47- JCH you damn right wing asshole- don’t give the leftie cocksucker credit for parroting my line. And there were no green cards on the Mayflower.

    Besides- most people here illegally or not Mexican, not even Hispanic- they came on visas and overstayed.

    Not that facts have ever mattered to you, you worthless piece of shit.

  48. 663

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 7:41 pm

    15

    “Unfortunately, the only part that Roger Rabbit got correct was that the state assesses taxes to pay for the program.”

    There isn’t ANY part of this statement that you got right! Call them “taxes” if you want, worker’s comp is insurance, and the employer and employee payments functionally are insurance premiums no matter what you call them. And worker’s comp was indeed a political compromise that got employers off the tort hook in exchange for no-fault coverage of all workers injured on the job.

  49. 664

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 7:42 pm

    15

    “The BIAW keeps 20% of the refunded premiums, from which it runs its programs.”

    No, the BIAW keeps 20% of the refunded premiums which it uses to advertise lies and buy judges.

  50. 665

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 7:45 pm

    Can somebody explain to me why the BIAW should get one fucking cent of L & I taxes? Or why an organization like BIAW should be able to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on a single judicial campaign? What does that do to the rights of individual citizens who can’t afford to contribute more than $10 or $25? Should our state’s courts be staffed with the most qualified judges, or with lawyers who align themselves with BIAW’s right-wing politics?

  51. 666

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 7:46 pm

    Since the legislature created the system that allows BIAW to siphon off 20% of the construction industry’s L & I refunds, why doesn’t the Democrat-controlled legislature un-create that system? Like tomorrow? Why didn’t they do it yesterday? If BIAW can’t run its programs on member dues and donations, screw ’em! We don’t need to give BIAW tax dollars to run dirty political campaigns against respected and highly qualified jurists so they can put their whores on our state’s highest courts.

  52. 667

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 7:59 pm

    20 million illegals must be deported NOW!!! No welfare, no education, no medical services, no social services, and NO illegal Democrat voting!!!!!! Bye bye, illegals!!!!!!!!!

  53. 668

    For the Clueless spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 8:02 pm

    Hey Wingnuts,

    YOUR DEAR LEADER IS A MOONBAT!!!!

    HEY MTR – PAY YOUR FUCKING GAMBLING DEBT TO GOLDY AND TAKE YOUR CHI-SQUARED BULLSHIT TO YOUR DEAR LEADER!

  54. 669

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 8:02 pm

    “I would like for us to become a true Socialist Country. And Nationalize all the oil companies .”

    Commentby The Socialist aka Fidel Castro aka Hillary Clinton [………….Hmmmmmmmmmmm…….Fidel did that in the late 50’s. Robert Mugabe did this a few years ago. Both are great examples of “socialism”. Kind of tough on the shareholders, wouldn’t you say????]

  55. 670

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 8:02 pm

    Deport all illegals and Muuuuuuuslims, and the Dems would lose 25% of their votes.

  56. 671

    For the Clueless spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 8:05 pm

    Oh Wingnuts,

    That sun sure is getting hot!!!

  57. 672

    Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 8:07 pm

    Looks like mooslims are kinda making the Pope’s point for him…

  58. 673

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 8:15 pm

    Over $1.8 million has already been spent on behalf of right-wing Supreme Court challenger John Groen, most of it viciously characterizing Chief Justice Gerry Alexander as a senile, baby-killing boozer. What if anything can be done to prevent wealthy special interests like the BIAW from buying the bench?

    Stop electing lefty,baby-killing boozers to the bench. Duhhhh!!

  59. 674

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 8:20 pm

    If BIAW can’t run its programs on member dues and donations, screw ‘em! We don’t need to give BIAW tax dollars to run dirty political campaigns against respected and highly qualified jurists so they can put their whores on our state’s highest courts.

    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 9/17/06@ 7:46 pm

    Why not. The teachers union does it. Hell when the teachers union is not busy protecting some child molestor they are contributing to some democrat.

  60. 675

    Jim King spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 8:34 pm

    Roger Rabbit, you are such a fucking stupid racist. State law defines those worker comp “premiums” as taxes. And BIAW doesn’t get any of the taxes. What BIAW gets is what its members give it- 20% of THEIR refund of the excessive taxes that L&I charges.

    If L&I wasn’t charging excessive premiums because it cannot run its program properly, BIAW wouldn’t be getting anything.

    The retro program that BIAW runs is funded out of that 20%; the BIAW- just like the Restaurant Association and others- handles the claims management for its members, and does such a better job than the state does for those stuck in the state program that the members get about a third of their worker comp taxes back- and that wouldn’t happen if L&I was efficient and competent.

    And the excess goes into their political program, which is doing more than buying judges. All thanks to the Democrats.

    And, you fucking idiot, BIAW is allowed to spend millions buying judges for the same reason Soros is allowed to spend hundreds of millions buying political influence- it is called free speech. Unfortunately, speech is not free- the rich (liberal or conservative) have more money and can buy more speech. And your idiot liberals set that up.

    But get one thing straight, you fucking moron rodent- BIAW does not get any tax dollars. It is getting money from its members- a percentage of their rebates. It is no different than if your accountant took a percentage of your savings on taxes for giving competent advice- would you say that thye accountant was being given tax dollars? Of course, you are such a damned idiot you probably would.

    Now go back into the racist corner with JCH and rant against the Hispanics you limp dick racist rodent.

  61. 676

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 8:49 pm

    16

    Why should I be a good rabbit, when people like you are running amok? BTW, Stefan’s name is Sharansky, not Sharkansky; like most wingnuts, he can’t even spell his own fucking name!!!

  62. 677

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 8:50 pm

    These fucking Republicans want a monopoly on evil! If they can be evil, why can’t I be just as evil as they are? Do they think they own the patent on evil? Wait … don’t answer that.

  63. 678

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 8:53 pm

    Wanna read something funny? In post #16, a wingfuck is bitching because I think Americans, not illegal immigrants, should get American jobs. I thought these guys were bitching about illegals taking jobs away from Americans?? Isn’t that why they wanted to send the National Guard to Arizona? (Unfortunately, the National Guard are busy getting their balls blown off in Baghdad, and aren’t available for border garrison duty right now.) So now Mr. Jim King has something against American jobs paying $20 to $30 an hour being filled by American workers? Oh wait, I get it — he’s a CHEAP LABOR CONSERVATIVE and wants our homes to be built by $5.15-an-hour labor.

  64. 679

    americafirst spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 8:55 pm

    Goldy, there may be some hope for you yet. At least you said tonight that illegal immigration cheapens the value of labor. What do you think about Cantwell(D-Mexico) voting to give illegal aliens social security benefits and voting against building a fence on the Mexican border? Are you going to criticize that?

    Or are you just another lib phoney?

  65. 680

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 8:56 pm

    28

    “As`we see more racists pop up on the left- they want the votes of the Hispanics, but they don’t want them in their communities- or marrying their daughters. Maybe nannying their children is okay…At least some of us descendents of illegal immigrants are not out to close the doors.” Commentby Jim King— 9/17/06@ 5:20 pm

    Mrs. Rabbit is Hispanic, and is going to kick your racist ass!

  66. 681

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 8:57 pm

    Okay, the truth is out … Roger Rabbit married a Hispanic. Now watch all the lying trollfucks call me a racist.

  67. 682

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 8:58 pm

    Is “Jim King” the latest incarnation of Momus Pompous Assus? Kevin Carns’ ethnic heritage changes as quickly as his screen name does.

  68. 683

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 8:59 pm

    30

    Now I know you’re either Kevin Carns, or you’re nuts, or both.

  69. 684

    Jim King spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 9:00 pm

    @73- No, you racist rodent, I am all for ANYONE willing to work hard making a family supporting wage. I’m not a hypocrite like you and all the other racist liberals who want Hispanic votes, but not Hispanics, who want to keep tip slavery in your blue states (yes, go look at the wages being paid tipped employees in Illinois, New York, Massachusetts, and elsewhere in your liberal fantasies). You scream loud and hard about cheap labor to keep people from seeing you as you are- a wannabe slaveowner.

    How many minorities in YOUR neighborhood- and I don’t mean the domestic help…

  70. 685

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 9:00 pm

    ROGER RABBIT POLL

    “Jim King” is

    [ ] 1. Kevin Carns
    [ ] 2. nuts
    [ ] 3. a cheap labor conservative
    [ ] 4. an American worker-hating fascist traitor
    [ ] 5. all of the above

  71. 686

    Jim King spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 9:02 pm

    Quite frankly, rodent, I don’t believe you. If you had married an Hispanic, you’d show more respect for those construction workers…

    Unless you married on of the Mexican or Argentine white upper class- is that it, rodent? A white woman with Peronist tendencies?

  72. 687

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 9:03 pm

    Of course, it’s obvious that Republicans hate workers. They don’t work, and apparently don’t think anybody else should work, either. This is obvious from their incentive system. They don’t think a multi-million-dollar stock market or inheritance windfall they didn’t work for should be taxed, but they have no problem with the Republican agenda of dumping all the taxes on wage earners. Why the fuck should anyone work, when wages are taxed, and capital gains and inheritances aren’t taxed? Why should anyone be a “worker” when half the country considers workers to be “commies”? Fuck ’em, let Republicans do their own work — I’m not gonna work anymore. I worked for over 40 years, and now I get paid to not work anymore.

  73. 688

    Jim King spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 9:04 pm

    The rodent is the kind of guy who would marry Imelda Marcos and claim that proves he’s sympathetic to Filipino cannery workers..

  74. 689

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 9:05 pm

    81

    Do you think I give a rat’s ass whether you believe me? Go suck some more farts out of dead seagulls.

  75. 690

    Jim King spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 9:07 pm

    Yeah, rodent- all of those small business owners don’t work.

    They just pay the axes that have always supported your lazy white ass…

  76. 691

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 9:07 pm

    66

    “Why not. The teachers union does it.” Commentby RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy— 9/17/06@ 8:20 pm

    Hmmm … well, you have a point. Let me state my position this way: I like our whores better than your whores, so I’m gonna vote for judges endorsed by the teachers union, and vote against judges endorsed by BIAW. Does that work for ya, sport?

  77. 692

    Jim King spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 9:09 pm

    Bottom line, rodent- everyone knows you are a lying racist- the kind who tells black jokes while talking about having friends of color- just none you’d want in your neighborhood after they were done making the beds or mowing the lawn…

  78. 693

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 9:10 pm

    70

    Maybe you can explain how Mr. Cynical’s washing machine works, as he has disappeared. I’m really curious what’s inside that thing. You put $100 of L & I taxes in it, turn a crank, the $100 bill goes through two rollers, and when it comes out the other side it’s still a $100 bill but now it’s BIAW political slush money instead of L & I taxes. What are those rollers made of, and where can I get some?

  79. 694

    americafirst spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 9:11 pm

    Besides- most people here illegally or not Mexican, not even Hispanic- they came on visas and overstayed.
    Commentby Jim King— 9/17/06@ 7:38 pm
    =============================================
    Bullshit,you don’t know what you’re talking about. You have no idea how many illegal aliens are in the country or how many are Mexican or Hispanic.

  80. 695

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 9:12 pm

    Click here for photo of BIAW’s money laundry. http://tinyurl.com/lkp32

  81. 696

    Jim King spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 9:13 pm

    Rodent- after you apologize for and repent of your racism I’ll explain anything to you- until then, you are nothing more than a slime sucking dirtball unworthy of anything but derision.

    At least we now know that you were on the border with the Minutemen on your vacation. Just not socially acceptable to wear your pointy headed hood and robes anymore, huh?

  82. 697

    Jim King spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 9:14 pm

    And the rodents buddy from the Klan speaks up- Hi Grand Klutz!

  83. 698

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 9:15 pm

    74

    “Cantwell(D-Mexico) voting to give illegal aliens social security benefits” Commentby americafirst— 9/17/06@ 8:55 pm

    If they’re paying Social Security taxes, why shouldn’t they get Social Security benefits? Do you think they should pay Social Security taxes for YOUR Social Security benefits? Fucking Republican freeloader.

  84. 699

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 9:17 pm

    74

    Let’s be clear about something here. The remedy for being in this country illegally is deportation. Just because an immigrant is here illegally, doesn’t entitle a wingfuck to the illegal immigrant’s bank account, car, or Social Security benefits. Have a little respect for other people’s private property! Our country has been going to the dogs ever since all the Republicans turned into fucking commies.

  85. 700

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 9:19 pm

    85

    “your lazy white ass…” Commentby Jim King— 9/17/06@ 9:07 pm

    Oh so now who’s being color conscious?

  86. 701

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 9:19 pm

    I think the shareholders should be the people not a bunch of rich assholes sorry

  87. 702

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 9:20 pm

    85

    Listen, sonnyboy, when you’ve worked 45 years like I did, and fought in a war like I did, you can sit on your ass and be lazy, too. For now, though, get back on your knees and continue sucking my rabbit dick! You aren’t done with that job yet.

  88. 703

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 9:21 pm

    87

    By “everyone” I assume you mean all one of you.

  89. 704

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 9:23 pm

    Here’s how Jim King sees reality: http://www.superiorbroadcast.o.....saucer.jpg

    Like I said at the beginning of this thread, I wish the aliens would kill these fuckers after conducting their sexual experiments, instead of dumping them back here on earth.

  90. 705

    LauraBushKilledAGuy spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 9:23 pm

    I think Jimmy Queen and the BIAW are all log cabin republicans who try to find ways to suck each other off before dawning their white robes and attending a KKK rally.

    I have an idea. why don’t all of us on the left start making calls to builders. Asking them to come out to give detailed bids on houses we don’t really ever plan to build. Let’s just waste some of these assholes time?

    Sounds like fun. And when they want to know what’s up we’ll tell em…Jimmy King sent us! LOL!

  91. 706

    LeftIsBest spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 9:25 pm

    Looking at the repsonses from the republicans on this board and it has become clear to me that these are the 31% who think GW Bush is a good president. And all of these people are clearly mentally ill and have severe bi-polar problems. Mr. King you seem to be the sickest of the lot. Get help. There’s still time.

  92. 707

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 9:26 pm

    91

    “At least we now know that you were on the border with the Minutemen on your vacation. Just not socially acceptable to wear your pointy headed hood and robes anymore, huh?” Commentby Jim King— 9/17/06@ 9:13 pm

    Hey, if you want to think I’m socially acceptable to the border vigilantes and the guys who run around in pointy-headed hoods, go right ahead … (pause) … (snicker) …

    HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR

    … that’s fun-neeeeeeeee!!! Ya gotta admit, though, the KKK designed their uniforms to accomodate rabbit ears, ya gotta give ’em credit for that!

  93. 708

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 9:26 pm

    If they’re paying Social Security taxes, why shouldn’t they get Social Security benefits? Do you think they should pay Social Security taxes for YOUR Social Security benefits? Fucking Republican freeloader.

    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 9/17/06@ 9:15 pm

    Because they are illegal aliens. They deserve nothing. If they want social security become legal. If not get the fuck out.

  94. 709

    RightEqualsStupid spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 9:26 pm

    NAH. Jimmy Queens is just another cowardly republican. He’s probably not crazy. Just a dick sucking punk who needs a good ass whipping but who’s afraid to come out from behind his computer. I’ve personally never met a single republican with balls. They’re all cowards. Every last one. Suck one too many dicks tonight did you Queen?

  95. 710

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 9:29 pm

    103

    “Because they are illegal aliens. They deserve nothing. If they want social security become legal. If not get the fuck out.” Commentby RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy— 9/17/06@ 9:26 pm

    So if they work, they don’t deserve to be paid; and if they pay Social Security taxes, they don’t deserve Social Security benefits; just because of their immigration status?

    Well, okay, I can see how that “logic” works. Now let’s extrapolate your “logic” to America-hating fascist traitors like you and J. King. Since you guys don’t want to live under America’s laws, or respect its Constitution, you should get the fuck out of MY country; but if you stay here, you work without getting paid, and you get no benefits for your taxes.

    Hey, if you don’t like it, don’t complain to ME … that was YOUR idea, not mine.

  96. 711

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 9:30 pm

    Personally, I think if you pay Social Security taxes, you should get Social Security benefits, and your status as an America-hating traitor should have nothing to do with it.

  97. 712

    americafirst spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 9:31 pm

    Cantwell(D-Mexico) voting to give illegal aliens social security benefits” Commentby americafirst— 9/17/06@ 8:55 pm
    If they’re paying Social Security taxes, why shouldn’t they get Social Security benefits? Do you think they should pay Social Security taxes for YOUR Social Security benefits? Fucking Republican freeloader.
    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 9/17/06@ 9:15 pm
    ================================================
    They’re working illegally, dumbshit. What part of illegal alien don’t you understand? You want criminals to make more money breaking the law than they already do? Typical “tough on crime” phoney lib moonbat.

  98. 713

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 9:31 pm

    101

    Therapy would be wasted on him. The aliens should have killed him after abducting him, instead of dumping him back here on earth.

  99. 714

    J.Olsen in Paulsbo spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 9:32 pm

    J. Olsen Poll:

    Roger Rabbit is:

    [ ] A. A fucking idiot.
    [ ] B. A hack lawyer who couldn’t make it in the real world, so
    he sucked off the public dole as a government attorney.
    [ ] C. A useless shit-for-brains who is so jealous that he’s not
    a rich Redmond Microsoft asshole that he attacks the successful
    because because he realizes he can’t measure up.
    [ ] D. All of the above.

    The Socialist is:

    [ ] A. Really a fucking idiot.
    [ ] B. A Socialist in name only – he/she really likes having
    money and investments and could care less about anyone else.
    [ ] C. Not to be believed – nobody with two-cents-worth of
    brains is a fucking “Socialist” anymore.
    [ ] D. All of the above.

    The answer to both questions above is “D”.

  100. 715

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 9:33 pm

    107

    The fact they’re working illegally doesn’t excuse them from paying taxes, dickhead. And if they pay taxes, they should get the benefits they paid taxes for. This is so simple anybody but a wingnut can figure it out.

  101. 716

    Jim King spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 9:33 pm

    So, we have yet to have a single fucking racist leftie stand up for the immigrants. Take their votes and kick them in the ass. I hope you are proud of your crew, Goldie- they have more in common with JCH than they dare admit to themselves…

    But they have displayed it all over this thread…

    Having exposed the rodent’s racist crew, my work here today is done…

  102. 717

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 9:33 pm

    107

    So do you think illegals should be excused from paying taxes because they’re working illegally? yes or no.

  103. 718

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 9:34 pm

    107

    If illegals should forfeit the benefits they pay taxes for because they’re working illegally, then it’s only fair that their employers should forfeit THEIR Social Security benefits too, for illegally employing them.

  104. 719

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 9:38 pm

    109

    It appears that some wingfuck in Poulsbo, who can’t even spell the name of his own fucking town, believed me when I said I’m a hack government lawyer. If he can believe me, why does Jim King have such a hard time believing me?

    As for the second part of the poll, I have my suspicions about “Socialist,” who sounds a little bit to wingnutty sometimes to be a socialist. Or maybe he’s a wingnut who thinks he’s a socialist. Now that’s believable. A wingnut who can’t spell his own name, or the town he’s in, probably can’t tell the difference between a socialist and a Republican, either.

  105. 720

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 9:39 pm

    111

    work? when did you ever work? you don’t work.

  106. 721

    americafirst spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 9:41 pm

    The fact they’re working illegally doesn’t excuse them from paying taxes, dickhead. And if they pay taxes, they should get the benefits they paid taxes for. This is so simple anybody but a wingnut can figure it out.
    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 9/17/06@ 9:33 pm
    =================================================
    You fucking moron, illegal aliens pay sales tax too. Since they pay taxes for welfare, you think they should also get welfare, moonbat?

  107. 722

    headless lucy spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 9:48 pm

    I really hate it when you have to watch these Republican A-Hole politicians on television with their supercilious, smug, self-satisfied smirks and you know that they are as thick as a brick.

  108. 723

    americafirst spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 9:50 pm

    If illegals should forfeit the benefits they pay taxes for because they’re working illegally, then it’s only fair that their employers should forfeit THEIR Social Security benefits too, for illegally employing them.
    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 9/17/06@ 9:34 pm
    ===============================================
    Finally a good idea from you. Keep at it.

  109. 724

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 10:03 pm

    I really hate it when you have to watch these Republican A-Hole politicians on television with their supercilious, smug, self-satisfied smirks and you know that they are as thick as a brick.

    Commentby headless lucy— 9/17/06@ 9:48 pm

    Good. Now you know how the majority of the nation felt like from the 60’s through 1994. Get use to it because we are not going away.

  110. 725

    Puddybud Mo Money Ray Nagin spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 10:15 pm

    This thread is ALIVE. Many moonbats came out to shit in the box tonight. Even the racist one showed his ugly head in #117.

    Go get ’em Jim King. When they call you a Queen you know their sphincters are a puckering!

    RUFUS, exemplenary work again. In the midst of moonbats a shining light.

    Americafirst: Pelletizer gets tongue-tied with that small “rabbit” brain he possesses. He is true to his moonbat morals. Keep him on his paws!

    J Olsen from Poulsbo: You can misspell any time man!

    Don’t you guys know The Socialist is Pelletizer’s great-grea-great-grandson. Mrs. Rabbit had nuthin to do with that tree branch! Socialist fell way from the tree!

  111. 726

    Puddybud Mo Money Ray Nagin spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 10:19 pm

    Good night moonbats: The wife is calling and I don’t miss appointments!

  112. 727

    headless lucy spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 10:20 pm

    re 119: You’re delusional — and a communist… check out thirdworldtraveler.com

  113. 728

    headless lucy spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 10:21 pm

    http://thirdworldtraveler.com

  114. 729

    americafirst spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 10:23 pm

    Perhaps you should review your history…
    Commentby howcanyoubePROUDtobeanASS— 9/17/06@ 5:23 pm
    ====================================================
    Those were good quotes on the other thread.

  115. 730

    headless lucy spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 10:25 pm

    re 120: Go gettem’, B’rer Rabbit!

  116. 731

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 10:51 pm

    Young people will have to hand over almost half their salary to the taxman, according to a report which shows the escalating financial pressures facing new graduates. Rising taxes and the overhaul of the pension system mean that students starting at university this year will be spending 48 per cent of their income on tax and other payments until they are 35. /break/ It gives warning of a crossover generation of people who pay the cost of the welfare state without being able to expect many of the benefits

    Comments:
    Or young professional people will take their degrees, look at the taxes and crime rates and flee overseas. Many want to, just give them a little nudge you leftoid nimwits. It’s the socialism eh? [Atlas has Shrugged, and when the tax payers refuse to pay 50,60,70% of their income in taxes, you Democrat public sector “guvment” hacks will moan and bitch!!!!]

  117. 732

    Jim King spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 10:51 pm

    So eight comments were deleted and all the references are screwed up… Did the Snark get control?

  118. 733

    headless lucy spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 10:56 pm

    The most amusing McGiver ad I’ve seen thus far is the one where he’s claiming he’s going to vote, not the Republican Party Line!.No No No…. But for what he really believes in!

    What a MARROON!!!!!!!!!!!

  119. 734

    headless lucy spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 11:00 pm

    “Redline” Mike! Your insurance industry lobbyist!

    “I broke the neighbor’s window when I was eight and loped back to my house to evade responsibility. My mother found out and forced me to take responsibility. Vote for me!”

  120. 735

    My Left Foot spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 11:01 pm

    Jim King at the new 47:

    Nice to see a Winger voice some reason and rebuke the fellow out in the middle of the Pacific.

  121. 736

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 11:05 pm

    The excuses keep on coming for Ellison’s behavior
    Katherine Kersten, Star Tribune
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    Katherine Kersten
    The excuses keep on coming for Ellison’s behavior

    Boys Academy on North Side fills multitude of needs

    Poisoned political atmosphere fuels conspiracy theories

    2 standards for diversity in the legal fraternity

    Rising when we fall and learning when we lose
    Keith Ellison’s Excuse Brigade — the “don’t touch Keith” crowd in the DFL, the media and the blogosphere — has gone into overdrive for the man who is the DFL’s choice to represent Minnesota’s Fifth Congressional District in our nation’s capital.
    The Brigade cut its teeth on Ellison’s 40 or so unpaid parking tickets, and his nine moving violations since 2000. Its candidate hit the campaign trail in June with a suspended driver’s license, thanks to his failure to pay his fines. This was nothing new for Ellison, who seemed unfazed. “I don’t know how many prior suspensions I’ve had,” he told the Star Tribune. “I don’t keep count.”

    In dismissing Ellison’s irresponsibility, the Excuse Brigade didn’t even break a sweat. What’s a suspended driver’s license when you’re an attorney fighting for social justice? Sometimes your great work can’t wait (speeding ticket), and sometimes you’ve got to fight for the oppressed no matter how long it takes (expired meter).

    Ellison’s defenders brushed off their candidate’s $25,000 in unpaid back taxes — incurred some years ago and later paid — in a similar spirit. Let’s face it: When you’re on a crusade to right big wrongs, you’ve got little time for the petty details of personal life — license suspensions or tax liens. Anyway, this stuff has nothing to do with running the people’s business, right?

    Ellison’s lengthy history of campaign-finance disclosure violations posed a greater challenge. The state attorney general sued him twice over filings, and his record includes numerous warnings, a default judgment and a collection agency. When Ellison accepted the DFL nomination in May, he faced fines of over $2,500, including $1,500 for a “willful” violation that could have been charged as a criminal gross misdemeanor.

    But it’s Ellison’s history of support for Louis Farrakhan — and the notoriously anti-white, anti-Semitic Nation of Islam — that has set the Excuse Brigade scrambling. Ellison says that his association with the Nation of Islam was limited to 18 months in the mid-1990s — a claim that the Brigade has repeated.

    He also says that he failed to scrutinize Farrakhan’s positions sufficiently. Today, Ellison proclaims brotherly love, and all is forgiven.

    But facts are stubborn things.

    Ellison’s support for Farrakhan dates from at least 1989, when he wrote an article defending “Minister Farrakhan” for the Minnesota Daily. In 1995, he was a Minnesota organizer for the Million Man March, which the Nation of Islam convened. In 1997, Ellison publicly supported the executive director of the Minneapolis Initiative Against Racism when she allegedly called Jews “among the most racist white people.” The Star Tribune described Ellison as a “representative” of the Nation of Islam in an article about the incident. In 1998, when Ellison made his first run for the Minnesota House of Representatives, the paper described him as “well-known in the black community as … a supporter of Louis Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam.”

    The Excuse Brigade has sought to counter these inconvenient facts by falling back on the nuclear option — the B word. Folks who draw attention to Ellison’s support for Farrakhan are bigots, they say. Case closed.

    So far, the Excuse Brigade has said little about the latest Ellison revelation. A few weeks ago, Nihad Awad, executive director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations in Washington, appeared at an Ellison fundraiser, and he and at least one other CAIR employee have donated to Ellison’s campaign. Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) described CAIR as an organization “which we know has ties to terrorism.”

    Mike Erlandson, an Ellison opponent in the primary election, criticized Ellison for appearing with Awad, whom Erlandson described as a supporter of the Palestinian group Hamas.

    Why is the Excuse Brigade pouring so much energy into Ellison’s defense? Any other candidate with half this record would likely be persona non grata in any political party.

    The truth is plain, if unpalatable. Many are willing to overlook Ellison’s record because they are breathless with excitement at the chance to send the first Muslim — and the first black Minnesotan — to Congress.

    Ellison’s candidacy may be a defining moment for the DFL. Is this the new face of the party of Hubert Humphrey? Heavy hitters such as Walter Mondale and Mayor R.T. Rybak have endorsed Ellison, and DFL fundraisers extraordinaire Sam and Sylvia Kaplan have raised big bucks for him.

    The question of the hour is this: Is Ellison’s DFL also the party of Amy Klobuchar and Mike Hatch? We have six weeks to find out.

  122. 737

    IFuckedJimKing spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 11:05 pm

    I feel like it’s important to make known that Jim King is a gay man. He’s vice president of the Log Cabin Republicans. When we were in college he came on to me and asked me to fuck him in the ass. I was horny so I went for it. He screamed like a woman and begged for more. I thought he was sick because for the rest of the school year he would send me notes begging to be bent over like a woman. Just thought you folks should know.

  123. 738

    My Left Foot spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 11:07 pm

    Cantwell (D) 52%, McGavick (R) 35% from Rassmussen dated Sept 12.

    Maria could sleep walk through this. All she has to do is remain silent, and watch Partyin’ Mike? McGavick implode.

  124. 739

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 11:08 pm

    Black Democrats are NOT responsible for their behavior because……………they are black Democrats. Kind on like holding a dog responsible for being off the leash. [See OJ]

  125. 740

    My Left Foot spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 11:11 pm

    122

    Um, this is a liberal blog site. Mr. King is free to love whomever he chooses. We don’t care. We actually think less of you. (and we know who you are, changing your name does not change your stripes)

    In review, Mr, King is free to voice his views here. His personal life is of no concern.

  126. 741

    My Left Foot spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 11:13 pm

    122:

    Name the college, dickhead.

  127. 742

    Jim King spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 11:21 pm

    My Left Foot- we went at it the other day- we hadn’t before, and I’m not sure what set off our exchange that day. But thanks for the defense. I would, however, challenge whomever @122 to name the institution and the year, but you beat me to it. Not that I really care, but whomever @122 doesn’t really sound like the cheerleader with the strap-on who offered pretty kinky sex- but if it is her, I’d like to get back in touch…

  128. 743

    My Left Foot spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 11:24 pm

    Unfortunately, I suspect that it is our Pacific Island pain in the ass.

  129. 744

    Jim King spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 11:29 pm

    Darn- I was really hoping it was the cheerleader…

    She was better than a prostate exam…

  130. 745

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 11:29 pm

    Davina McCall, Michael Douglas, Angelina Jolie and Jordan have all felt the sharp end of his tongue. So they can sympathise with Bono – the latest victim of a vicious, verbal savaging from Graham Norton. / ”He goes to hell and back to avoid paying tax. He has a special accountant. He works out Irish tax loopholes. And then he’s asking me to buy a well for an African village.”

    It is always irritating, and very hypocritical, to hear some rich guy tell us that we need to pay more taxes to fund his favorite cause, while he has his CPA working overtime to dodge paying his own taxes.

  131. 746

    My Left Foot spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 11:30 pm

    132:

    You just made Teresa laugh too. Roflmao.

  132. 747

    Jim King spews:

    Sunday, 9/17/06 at 11:31 pm

    Actually, I find it interesting that Bono was able to reach Jesse Helms’ heart…

  133. 748

    Puddybud Mo Money Ray Nagin spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 5:53 am

    Unfortunately, I suspect that it is our Pacific Island pain in the ass. Commentby My Left Foot— 9/17/06@ 11:24 pm

    It is not JCH. JCH is as blatant as a pimple in the middle of your forehead! He doesn’t masquerade as a fool like KLakeSucksDick or PuddyButtSuxDick or those other monikers used by Left Turdball.

  134. 749

    Puddybud Mo Money Ray Nagin spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 5:56 am

    Left Turdball: The closer you get to an entry the more it smells.

  135. 750

    Mike Webb SUCKS spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 7:03 am

    Here is an interesting article on the Corruption of William Jefferson.

    Why isn’t he being forced to resing LeftJustSucks, LeftisWrong, etc?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09.....38;emc=rss

  136. 751

    Libertarian spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 7:20 am

    Hey Roger, here’s a question for you. Since we get no income tax deduction for our contributions to the social security system, shouldn’t the benefits from the system come to us tax-free? As it is now, up to 85% of the yearly beneift is subject to income taxation, depending on the recipeint’s other income. Isn’t taxation of social security benefits double taxation?

    Or could it be that the left wants to use social security as yet another “re-distribution of wealth” scheme?

  137. 752

    Daddy Love spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 8:10 am

    MWS @ 145

    WIlliam Jwefferson isn’t being “forced to resign” because he has been neither indicted nor convicted. He is under investigation only at this time. Democrats In Congress, jhowever, ahve already voted to strip im of his committee assignments. When other offical actions are taken, I am sure that the Dmcorats will proceed approriately.

    As opposed to Bob Ney, whom an Abramoff pal has already pled guilty to bribing, and who just pled guilty himself. Why hasn’t HE been “forced to resign?”

  138. 753

    Daddy Love spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 8:13 am

    Bush drops six points since 9/11 in the poll that http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/ho.....guest.html“>Rush Limbaugh says “has always had the president’s approval numbers higher than any of the other national polls.”

    He’s toast, and he can’t generate any favorable numbers for Republicans in this election cycle. Why anyone listens to him at all any more is beyond me.

  139. 754

    For the Clueless spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 8:24 am

    Why anyone listens to him at all any more is beyond me.

    Because Rove has the dirt on all of them through the FBI and the NSA surveillance.

  140. 755

    LeftIsSanctimonius spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 8:34 am

    Jim King has done a fine job of refuting the garbage spewed by the fool who refers to himself as Roger Rabbit.
    L&I refunds are the DIRECT result of Retro Employers outperforing non-Retro Employers.
    If they don’t outperform….NO REFUNDS and possibly penalties.
    TRADE ASSOCIATIONS composed primarily of small & medium sized locally owned businesses band together and risk penalties.
    However thru excellent safety, claim management, light-duty return to work programs and even keeping injured workers on salary…refunds are generated.
    It takes Associations to sponsor these programs
    Associations are responsible for penalties…many of wich have occurred.
    This is the ONLY Washington State Government program where business & workers benefit.
    Unions hate incetive programs that help workers.

    I have an idea…
    How about a vote on Right to Work in Washington????
    My guess is it will pass overwhelmingly.
    Now is the time.

  141. 756

    For the Clueless spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 8:35 am

    You wingnuts have been completely silent about the flip-flop Dubya is going to do on global warming.

    I expect ASS to churning out reams of propaganda against Dubya’s “goes to China moment” – on wingnut blogs.

    Good. We’ll get a vacation for a while.

  142. 757

    LeftIsSanctimonius spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 8:38 am

    Also, Retro Programs are OPTIONAL for businesses.
    Union dues are not.
    Right to Work!
    It’s the only fair thing to do.
    By the way, Union Workers who feel their Unions are screwing them ought to contact the Evergreen Freedom Foundation for assistance in being treated fairly and not seeing their required union dues go to left-wing candidates they do not support.
    Let’s discuss the unions Mr. Goldstein.

  143. 758

    LeftIsSanctimonius spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 8:39 am

    Jim King has done a fine job of refuting the garbage spewed by the fool who refers to himself as Roger Rabbit.
    L&I refunds are the DIRECT result of Retro Employers outperforing non-Retro Employers.
    If they don’t outperform….NO REFUNDS and possibly penalties.
    TRADE ASSOCIATIONS composed primarily of small & medium sized locally owned businesses band together and risk penalties.
    However thru excellent safety, claim management, light-duty return to work programs and even keeping injured workers on salary…refunds are generated.
    It takes Associations to sponsor these programs
    Associations are responsible for penalties…many of wich have occurred.
    This is the ONLY Washington State Government program where business & workers benefit.
    Unions hate incetive programs that help workers.

    I have an idea…
    How about a vote on Right to Work in Washington????
    My guess is it will pass overwhelmingly.
    Now is the time.

  144. 759

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 9:09 am

    HARARE – THE beating stopped as the sun began to go down. After two-and-a-half hours, the fourteen men and one woman held at Matapi police station in Mbare township, Harare, had suffered five fractured arms, seven hand fractures, two sets of ruptured eardrums, fifteen cases of severe buttock injuries, deep soft-tissue bruising all over, and open lacerations. […………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..Black democrats at play. Harare: Detroit. Not a lot of difference. Both Democrat [socialist] Hellholes, and not a Republican within miles!!!!]

  145. 760

    For the Clueless spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 9:14 am

    Hey Sanctimonius Wingnut –

    When the Republicans start caring about the interests of workers then the unions will support them.

    Right to Work = neo-slavery

  146. 761

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 9:19 am

    GOP: PARTY OF NO IDEAS, NO VALUES, NO PLANS

    As the P-I’s Joel Connelly points out in this morning’s (Monday’s) paper, the GOP’s game plan is to attack Democratic opponents, not debate issues or discuss the country’s direction.

    This is not surprising, as virtually nothing is going well, and polls consistently show that over two-thirds of the American public feels the country is heading in the wrong direction. Translation: The Republicans who run our government have failed us — across the board, on every issue.

    As Connelly astutely points out, “These people are running our government. Don’t they have a few positive accomplishments — stuff done that benefits the American people — to which they can point?”

    Nope, guess not. As Connelly further points out, all the RNC has against Darcy Burner is a screed that says, “Less Than Two Months Away from Election Day, Darcy Burner Refuses to Talk Issues” … but “Burner has talked lots about issues in briefings that I’ve attended. No matter. The strategy … is to go negative. Make the challenger the issue.”

    A sure sign the Republicans are out of ideas, have no plans, and can’t sell their values — namely, war, torture, greed, corruption, lying, stealing, dishonesty, and selfishness.

  147. 762

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 9:19 am

    CAIRO, Egypt – An al-Qaida-linked extremist group warned Pope Benedict XVI on Monday that he and the West were “doomed,” as protesters returned to the streets across the Muslim world to demand more of an apology from the pontiff for his remarks about Islam and violence.–snip–”We will break up the cross, spill the liquor and impose head tax, then the only thing acceptable is a conversion (to Islam) or (killed by) the sword.” [………………………………………………………………………”Everyone sit down! The terrorists have assured me that they will land the plane safely at JFK! We must chant ‘BUSH NO GOOD! BUSH NO GOOD!'” [Carl Grossman]

  148. 763

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 9:20 am

    157

    To a CHEAP LABOR CONSERVATIVE, “right to work” means the right to make other people work for low pay and no benefits, so they don’t have to do any work themselves and can live high on the labor of others.

  149. 764

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 9:22 am

    On the subject of cheap labor (and expensive gas), I’ve been seeing stuff in the papers recently that eastern Washington orchardists can’t hire enough people to pick fruit.

    Um, try raising wages, guys! Nobody’s going to spend $30 a day on gas to go to a job that pays $40 a day.

  150. 765

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 9:24 am

    155

    Why not eliminate the retro program and the middlemen to lower L & I premiums, so we don’t have to listen to employers whining about L & I “taxes”? Or, better, yet, why not eliminate the workers comp program and let injured workers sue employers for whatever a jury is willing to give them? Me and my lawyer buddies can always use a few more bucks in contingency fees.

  151. 766

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 9:26 am

    Can any of you wingnuts explain to me how an L & I premium payment system that generates millions of dollars in political slush funds for groups like BIAW is cost-efficient for employers?

  152. 767

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 9:28 am

    “Allah Akhbar!” [Carl Grossman]

  153. 768

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 9:30 am

    Do you guys think the $1 million-plus that BIAW has spent trying to buy our state’s Supreme Court came out of thin air? No, it was paid into the L & I system by employers who didn’t get that money back, nor was that money spent for its intended purpose of providing medical care and wage-loss benefits to injured workers. It went here: http://tinyurl.com/lkp32

  154. 769

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 9:30 am

    To a CHEAP LABOR CONSERVATIVE, “right to work” means the right to make other people work for low pay and no benefits, so they don’t have to do any work themselves and can live high on the labor of others.

    Commentby Roger Rabbit [………………………………………………..Kim Jong-Il and Fidel Castro could not have said it better!! The free market [capitalism] is bad! We need central planning!!]

  155. 770

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 9:32 am

    Notice how the wingnuts get bogged down in “retro” technical jargon yet can’t explain away a fact as simple as the reality that money goes from employers’ pockets to BIAW’s political slush fund in the name of “workers benefits.”

  156. 771

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 9:34 am

    166

    I’m not criticizing free markets or capitalism. I’m criticizing lazy shits who don’t work and freeload off the labor of others.

  157. 772

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 9:35 am

    < HREF="http://article.nationalreview.com/print/?q=NWY5ZmMyNjRhMjEwOWJiMjcyMDE5MTI2MWVhNTg1ODc=">Michigan — a liberal failure

  158. 773

    RightEqualsStupid spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 9:36 am

    In my Constitutionally-protected opinion, the BIAW and their ilk are nothing but crooks and con men and anything and everything we can do to slow them down, hurt them or disrupt their mission is a good thing.

  159. 774

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 9:37 am

    Michigan — a liberal failure.

  160. 775

    Yossarian spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 9:40 am

    I’m not criticizing free markets or capitalism. I’m criticizing lazy shits who don’t work and freeload off the labor of others.

    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 9/18/06@ 9:34 am

    Hey Rog, you’re criticizing yourself, Mr. “guvmint” asshole attorney!

  161. 776

    Jim King spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 9:42 am

    @168- Like yourself, racist rodent who hasn’t put in an honest day’s work in your worthless life? Go back into your rotten burrow with Imelda/Evita- you’ve been exposed for the white supremacist fool that you are…

  162. 777

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 9:44 am

    Oh yeah? I worked 45 years and fought a war! You think government work is easy? Try it sometime. I’m sure you’ll enjoy the crushing workloads, unpaid overtime, hostile customers, and unappreciative bosses as much as I did. I just want to remind everyone that every cent of my pension is money that was deducted from my paychecks, and that I pay 100% of the cost of my health insurance. I don’t get one fucking dime from the taxpayers. You can’t say that for the corporations freeloading at the public trough. For a nice group photo of Republican business leaders, click here: http://tinyurl.com/prjhf

  163. 778

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 9:47 am

    173

    I delivered newspapers when I was 11, for the next 45 years worked at every imaginable kind of job, and also served a 13-month tour of combat duty in Vietnam. I put myself through college, graduate school, and law school without a penny of taxpayer or parental money. And your resume is — ???

  164. 779

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 9:47 am

    173

    The only place you have callouses is on your ass, from sitting on it all your miserable freeloading useless life.

  165. 780

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 9:50 am

    172

    “Mr. ‘guvmint” asshole attorney!” Commentby Yossarian— 9/18/06@ 9:40 am

    You finally got something right; and I’m also glad to see you have enough sense to say “Mister” when addressing your betters.

  166. 781

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 9:57 am

    I never enjoyed being an asshole, but when you’re a government attorney and your job requires you to deal with the Yossarians, Jim Kings, and Mark the Welshers of the world, you can’t afford to be nice. You know — the welsher who brags about pouring $3.25 gas into his Hummer while complaining he can’t afford to pay child support! Trust me, I was worth every penny the government paid me, and then some.

  167. 782

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 10:01 am

    For photo of “property rights” advocate exercising “freedom” next to a publicly-owned stream containing publicly-owned fish, click here: http://tinyurl.com/g7go8

  168. 783

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 10:03 am

    “I was worth every penny the government paid me, and then some.”

    Commentby Roger Rabbit [……………………………………………………………………..Is there ANY “guvment” hack that doesn’t think this?]

  169. 784

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 10:04 am

    DEFINITION OF “WINGNUT”

    A “wingnut” is anybody who doesn’t know what this thing is for. http://tinyurl.com/ok8yz See previous post for example.

  170. 785

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 10:06 am

    “You think government work is easy?”
    Commentby Roger Rabbit [………………………………………………………………………..Er, RR, yeah, I do. That’s where Democrat hacks like you hide because you can’t or won’t make it in the evil private sector.]

  171. 786

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 10:07 am

    180

    And how did you make YOUR money, Craig? By advising your clients to buy dot-com stocks?

    (pause)

    (snicker)

    HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR

    Does anyone besides me wonder why ex-stockbroker JCH is “retired”?!

    (derisive bunny laughter in background)

  172. 787

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 10:08 am

    If JCH had been successful, he wouldn’t be forced to live in a lousy $1.5 million condo in Hawaii, he’d have a real house.

  173. 788

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 10:09 am

    Everybody knows the only thing $1.5 million buys in Hawaii is the outhouse.

  174. 789

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 10:11 am

    Roger, The answer to ALL your questions: BRK-B BERKSHIRE
    HATH HLD B 3,206.00

  175. 790

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 10:12 am

    Does anyone besides me wonder why ex-stockbroker JCH is “retired”?!

    Commentby Roger Rabbit
    [BRK-B BERKSHIRE
    HATH HLD B 3,206.00]

  176. 791

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 10:13 am

    It sure beats working, RR!

  177. 792

    Daddy Love spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 10:16 am

    ASS

    Yet another Op-Ed? Why don’t you look up some facts and post your own opinion?

  178. 793

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 10:20 am

    Because, I’m smart enough to let others to the work and acknowledge they can say it far better than I.

  179. 794

    Daddy Love spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 10:35 am

    From Rasmussen Reports:
    The battle for control of the U.S. Senate is getting closer—much closer. Little more than a week ago, our Balance of Power summary showed the Republicans leading 50-45 with five states in the Toss-Up category. Today, Rasmussen Reports is changing three races from “Toss-Up” to “Leans Democrat.” As a result, Rasmussen Reports now rates 49 seats as Republican or Leans Republican while 48 seats are rated as Democrat or Leans Democrat (see State-by-State Summary) There are now just three states in the Toss-Up category–Tennessee, New Jersey, and Missouri.
    Only 50 days til November 7th.

    Today’s NY Times profiles the Virginia Senate race: “As Senator Falters, a Democrat Rises in Virginia.” Another toss-up-to-be?

  180. 795

    Daddy Love spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 10:35 am

    ASS @ 190

    Yeah, that’s what REALLY takes brains, huh?

  181. 796

    Yossarian spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 10:55 am

    You finally got something right; and I’m also glad to see you have enough sense to say “Mister” when addressing your betters.

    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 9/18/06@ 9:50 am

    Roger, you’re lower than whale shit, man. Without giving away too much info, I can truthfully say that I am your better in every way. Are you are is a failed lawyer without the sense to realize that your pathetic, bitter diatribes here show your inferiority complex.

    Do the world a favor, Roger: go wading in Green Lake in concrete sneakers and “accidentally” get in over your head. The world will be a better place!

  182. 797

    Jim King spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 10:57 am

    @174- There isn’t a government pension in the country that is paid for entirely by the employee- you lie about that, like you lie about everything, racist rodent. You lied to Imelda/Evita when you told her you could get it up.

  183. 798

    LeftIsSanctimonius spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 10:58 am

    Was Roger Rabbit a govrnment attorney?
    I’ll bet he worked for DSHS, the absolute worst run goverment agency in the history of the state.
    I think I know who this phoney-baloney guy is.
    He was also a big-time State Employees Union activist.
    Just another Socialist who needs for the government to run roughshod over individuals lives and a guaranteed paycheck.
    No surprise.

  184. 799

    Libertarian spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 10:58 am

    Hey Roger, did you see my question at 147?

  185. 800

    Jim King spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 10:59 am

    And the racist rodent claims he worked at every kind of imaginable job- problem is, he can’t imagine anything other than behind a comfy desk ripping off the taxpayers.

    Get your story straight, silly wabbit- government attorney or working at every imaginable type of job. Lies, damn lies…

  186. 801

    Jim King spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 11:01 am

    Jobs racist rodent can imagine:

    1) sitting behind a desk as a government attorney
    2) sitting behind a desk as a lawyer ripping off the taxpayers
    3) sitting behind a desk as a government lawyer
    4) sitting behind a desk as an attorney ripping off the taxpayers
    5) All of the above

  187. 802

    LeftIsSanctimonius spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 11:08 am

    Jim–
    This goofball was also a Government Employees Union Activist.
    He got a stipend from dues money.
    Is he a rodent?? or a leech?

  188. 803

    My Left Foot spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 1:00 pm

    Daddy @ 182

    This woman has never has an original thought. She threatens and runs. Beware. A real twisted sister.

    Post the information proudofyourfatlyingthreateningass.

    I am still waiting. Still calling your bluff and you are still cowering and hiding.

  189. 804

    JimKingSuxDick spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 1:05 pm

    Word is Jim King is the local leader of the KKK!

  190. 805

    Jim King spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 1:31 pm

    You’ve got me mixed up with the racist rodent- he even acknowledges he looks good in a pointy hood…

    and rather than suck dick, I eat Dick’s- they make a fine hamburger…

    but what is a leftie doing making homophobic jokes, anyway? Isn’t that supposed to be looked down on? Or is it like wanting Hispanic votes, but not Hispanics?

  191. 806

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 4:02 pm

    Now we know Mrs Grossman is a lawyer. A moonbat lawyer to boot!Puddy, You got to Mrs Grossman. Good job. You give her an assist and what does she do Attack you! “She can’t take on JCH.”
    Commentby Mike Webb SUCKS
    “She can’t take on JCH.” “She can’t take on JCH.” “She can’t take on JCH.” “She c”She can’t take on JCH.” an’t take on JCH.” “She can’t take on JCH.” “She can’t take on JCH.” “She can’t take on JCH.” “She can’t take on JCH.” “She can’t take on JCH.” “She can’t take on JCH.” “She can’t take on JCH.” ……………………………..hehe, JCH

  192. 807

    Mike Webb SUCKS spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 5:08 pm

    Can any of you wingnuts explain to me how union protection premium payment program and system that generates tens of millions of dollars in political slush funds for groups like DNCC is cost-efficient for employers?

  193. 808

    Mike Webb SUCKS spews:

    Monday, 9/18/06 at 5:10 pm

    You’re delusional – and a communist… check out thirdworldtraveler.com Commentby headless lucy— 9/17/06@ 10:20 pm

    oh lucy: I remember the racist comments. HowCan remembers the comments too. You are a yellow-belly cock sucker!

  194. 809

    Anonymous spews:

    Tuesday, 9/26/06 at 1:56 pm

    rather municipality nullify bang!breathing,painter.upholsterer.

  195. 810

    tennis betting tips betting pal pay sports spews:

    Tuesday, 9/26/06 at 11:44 pm

    bulkheads!acculturate logicians intoxication smashed manned.transcriptions spotted.

“The David Goldstein Show” tonight on Newsradio 710-KIRO

by Goldy — Sunday, 9/3/06, 4:35 pm

The cops are out in full force this Labor Day weekend looking for drunk drivers, so I suggest you follow Mike?™ McGavick’s example and just stay home, pull down the shades, pop open a 12-pack of Guinness and tune in to “The David Goldstein Show” on Newsradio 710-KIRO, tonight from 7PM to 10PM.

The lineup could change in response to breaking news, but here’s what I think I’ll be talking about tonight:

7PM: I was going to talk about Pastor Joe Fuiten and his efforts to evict a community of retired pastors, missionaries and lay people from the Cedar Springs Bible Camp. But apparently a peace offering has been made by Fuiten’s attorneys and I wouldn’t want to do anything to jeopardize a settlement that would allow the residents to live out their retirement in peace and security. So instead, I’ll just spend most of the hour slamming Mike?™ McGavick, who, as it turns out, may have a connection to the unfolding Alaska pipeline scandal.

8PM: Do I appease fascists? On Wednesday Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld compared critics of the war in Iraq to those who appeased Hitler, saying we suffer from “moral or intellectual confusion” for failing to recognize the rise of a “new type of fascism.” Hmm. I guess if anybody’s an expert on appeasing fascists, it’s Donald Rumsfeld.

Rumsfeld appeasing Saddam

Both Keith Olbermann and Frank Rich have spoken eloquently in response. I’ll attempt to stumble my way through a rebuttal too.

9PM: Sandeep Kaushik, spokesman for the No on I-920 campaign (and a Podcasting Liberally regular) joins me to talk about the initiative to repeal Washington’s estate tax, and what impact that might have on both the state and the nation. And you may not believe this, but it turns out I-920’s backers are shockingly selling the initiative with lies. Who’d a thunk?

Tune in tonight (or listen to the live stream) and give me a call: 1-877-710-KIRO (5476).

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  1. 811

    sgmmac spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 5:07 pm

    They sold the Anti-smoking initiative with lies, why not the anti-estate taxes initiative?

  2. 812

    headless lucy spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 5:14 pm

    What does the “TM” in Mike stand for? Transcendental Meditation? With six lines of the finest African Ibogaine on a retro Betty Boop mirror and a half-drunk bottle of Johnny Walker Red?

    Enjoy your weekend, “Redline Mike” – The Insurance Guy!!!!!!!!!!

  3. 813

    Proud To Be An Ass spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 5:30 pm

    They sold the Anti-smoking initiative with lies, why not the anti-estate taxes initiative?

    They’re not the same “they” sgmmac. The “Birth Lottery Winners’ Tax Relief Initiative” is being pushed by professional liars, not amateurs.

    Say, is that Saddam guy standing on a shoe box or is Rummy just short? Some say Rummy’s umbrella was deliberately cropped from this famous photo.

    I wouldn’t be suprised.

  4. 814

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 5:36 pm

    Goldy asks : Do I appease fascists? Yes you do … You let all the Christofashist republican blow hards bloveat all day and night on your blog . So I would say yes you do …………………

  5. 815

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 5:41 pm

    What does the “TM” in Mike stand for? It stands for Tranny Mansex……. It’s a pretty common thing with republicans they usual wake up in a drunken stupor in a pile wanabee man culter transvestite escorts…..

    :-/

  6. 816

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 5:43 pm

    Yamahas suck real men ride Suzuki’s………..

  7. 817

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 5:47 pm

    An Harly Davisons suck they leak more oil then a corroded Alaskan pipe line ……………

    And the only one that can aford to buy one are yuppy 57 year old lawyers.

  8. 818

    RonK, Seattle spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 6:53 pm

    In keeping with Northwest tradition, somebody should introduce a “MIKE!” label MIKErobrew … so after a long day’s doorbelling we can kick back and really slam “MIKE!”.

  9. 819

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 7:07 pm

    9 hehehee

  10. 820

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 7:08 pm

    does this mean I have to give up my Billy Beer ?

  11. 821

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 7:10 pm

    I am makeing an awsume meat loaf!!!!!!!

    http://www.ichef.com/

  12. 822

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 7:12 pm

    Real MEN can take care of them selves with out realying on some skirt…..

  13. 823

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 7:46 pm

    I guess everyone is passed out on Mikeikin High Life Beer :-/

  14. 824

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 7:53 pm

    That’s true I wish the Communist dictators of the past would start allowing freedoom of the press and free and fair election.

    Im mostly upset at China then Cuba .

    China is becoming a horrible Capitalist monster with no care at all about the working people and the poor .

    They give Socialism a bad name ..

  15. 825

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 7:54 pm

    oops wrong blog sorry

  16. 826

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 8:06 pm

    Wow. There are rave reviews for the ABC mini series “A path to 911”. It is based on a true story which led up to 911. It airs on September 10 & 11th at 7:00pm CT. I hope everyone watches.

  17. 827

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 8:10 pm

    Answer…… Insurance Company reform

  18. 828

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 8:13 pm

    Oops my bad I meant Insurance deregulation

  19. 829

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 8:32 pm

    17

    You mean how Bush ignored 17 intelligent reports about terrorist flying planes in to sky scrapers Buttnutz?

  20. 830

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 8:34 pm

    21

    Watch and find out.

  21. 831

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 8:36 pm

    I thought when Rummy was talking about nazi appeasers in ww2.. I thought he was referring to W’s Grand Pappy Prescott Bush that was selling arms to Hitler threw out the war….

  22. 832

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 8:39 pm

    I don’t have cable Buttnutz and I can’t really pick up ch 4 on my rabbit ears….

    Mabye some kind soul will post it to usenet ..

  23. 833

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 8:42 pm

    oh here a republican Christofashist documentery……….

    This video starts innocently as the two ‘Christian’ presentators warn you that the endtimes
    are coming because they see analogies with prophecies out of the book of Daniel.

    Then things take a strange turn: Salivating they tell you that the AntiChrist is coming but
    not to worry because this means that Jesus is coming next !

    AND THEN (right near the end) THEY TELL YOU NOT TO WORRY ABOUT BEING CHIPPED AND JUST DO IT !
    You do not mean to prevent the coming of the Lord by not cooperating with the New World Order,
    don’t you ????

    So… If you need samples of demonic possession, these two people are one of the strongest
    cases I ever saw…

    I think I will down load it just for giggles

  24. 834

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 8:42 pm

    24

    Well crash out at someone’s place that has TV and watch it.

  25. 835

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 8:44 pm

    Are you going to watch the “path to 911” Goldy?

  26. 836

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 8:47 pm

    You can find this video at the alt.binaries.multimedia.documentaries news group

    If anyone else want’s a good laugh to night. :-)

  27. 837

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 8:51 pm

    Why are so hot for this show it is just going to remind people how bush after 5 years still hasn’t caught Bin Bin ladin…

    It is not going to help you you no…….

    Go watch the history channel and try to learn something for a change.

  28. 838

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 8:52 pm

    29

    It puts 911 in perspective. Watch it, you will learn something.

  29. 839

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 8:54 pm

    Demercrats are a bunch of pussy’s thats why I left and join the Socialist Party

  30. 840

    Puddybud Big Weiner Nagin spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 8:55 pm

    Once again David Gold”ie” Goldstein forgets his history. We supported Saddam because we hated the Ayatollah of IRAN like he did. Remember the impotent one Jimmy Cahhhhrrrrrter? NUFF SAID

    Come on Goldie, you can’t fool certain of us with history. Saddam was the enemy of our enemy.

    I guess you support Bashar Assad because he told Kofi Annan he promises to stop arming Hezbollah!

    Stupid fools you donks!

  31. 841

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 8:56 pm

    It must be some republicans neo con propaganda

  32. 842

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 8:57 pm

    Hey it is on ABC, a lefty friendly channel. It’s not like Fox is carrying it. What do you have to lose.

  33. 843

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 8:58 pm

    32

    Who is we kingosomee?

  34. 844

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 9:01 pm

    32

    I suppose you believed bush when he sead he was going to get osma bin ladin dead or alive…

  35. 845

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 9:05 pm

    IM so sure abc nbc cbs cnn and the rest are all owned bye the Military industrial complex you fool . That’s why you don’t get any real news

    Go listen to the BBC or CBC for Christ sake you will be shocked at what the main stream media fails to report on..

  36. 846

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 9:08 pm

    I mean give me a break CBS just hired Katty Curic to ancore CBS eving news for christ sake ……

  37. 847

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 9:10 pm

    Buttnutz you should grab a 6 pack and go for an evening drive :-)

  38. 848

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 9:10 pm

    37

    Well there you go. All the more reason why you should watch “the path to 911”. You will be shocked at what the MSM failed to report. It sounds like this series is right down you alley.

  39. 849

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 9:12 pm

    39

    Yeah that would be the Kennedy in me. No girls to kill today though. hehe

  40. 850

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 9:16 pm

    you mean like the fact that bush was told over and over again the terrorists were wanting to fly planes in to sky scrapers?

  41. 851

    K spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 9:17 pm

    Rufus- Bush was in charge when 9/11 happened. What was he doing to prevent it?

  42. 852

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 9:17 pm

    You mean like Iraq had nothing to do with 911?

  43. 853

    K spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 9:18 pm

    And explain to me again why Iraq? Even Bush himself now says there was no link to 9/11. Yet it did distract from the hunt for Bin Laden, weaken our military and turn world opinion against us.

  44. 854

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 9:20 pm

    Buttnutz you know that Laura bush ran her boy friend over with her car when she was in her 20s

    But you don’t here democrats bringing that up every 5 minutes because we have more class then that ……..

  45. 855

    K spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 9:22 pm

    http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/.....raq18.html

    Bush said yesterday there was no attempt by the administration to try to confuse people about any link between Saddam and Sept. 11.

    “No, we’ve had no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved with September the 11th,” Bush said.

  46. 856

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 9:22 pm

    Rufus- Bush was in charge when 9/11 happened. What was he doing to prevent it?

    Commentby K— 9/3/06@ 9:17 pm

    It shows the short comings of the Bush administration. Bush definitely made some errors in office leading up to 911 that is for sure. You should watch.

  47. 857

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 9:24 pm

    Buttnutz you know that Laura bush ran her boy friend over with her car when she was in her 20s

    But you don’t here democrats bringing that up every 5 minutes because we have more class then that ……..

    Commentby The Socialist— 9/3/06@ 9:20 pm

    Your right.

  48. 858

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 9:24 pm

    Buttnutz you know that Laura bush ran her boy friend over with her car when she was in her 20s

    But you don’t here democrats bringing that up every 5 minutes because we have more class then that ……..

  49. 859

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 9:25 pm

    it’s true you didn’t no that?

  50. 860

    K spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 9:26 pm

    Rufus-

    So when did you come to believe the “MSM” are a source of truth? When they spout your ideas? From what I heard, they blame Clinton, the only mantra you guys have left. My recollection is that the guys who bombed the WTC when Clinton was in office are in jail.

    And where is Bin Laden?

  51. 861

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 9:28 pm

    Laura Bush: 1963, ran stop sign & killed boyfriend

    Miscellaneous News Keywords: STRANGE
    Source: AP
    Published: 5/3/00 Author: JIM VERTUNO
    Posted on 05/03/2000 16:12:46 PDT by Jethro Tull

    Wednesday May 3 6:13 PM ET Report: Laura Bush in 1963 Car Wreck
    Report: Laura Bush in 1963 Car Wreck

    By JIM VERTUNO, Associated Press Writer

    AUSTIN, Texas (AP) – At 17, Laura Bush ran a stop sign and crashed into another car, killing her boyfriend who was driving it, according to an accident report released to The Associated Press on Wednesday.

  52. 862

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 9:29 pm

    51

    Yes I have heard that. I am not arguing with you. Iam not saying it is true or not, it may very well be. The Kennedy schtick was fun for a while but it is getting old. I still have fun with. It’s republicans acting like dems that is all.

  53. 863

    K spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 9:29 pm

    And the question is where do we go from here? The guys who got us into this are unwilling to consider they made mistakes. Remember the statement there were “tactical” errors in Iraq? This administration actually blamed the troops. They have demonstrated clear incompetance, from the initial rationale for entering Iraq, to their plan for conquest and post conquest governing to their reconstruction efforts.

    Look at their record and tell me they deserve more time in charge.

  54. 864

    Proud To Be An Ass spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 9:30 pm

    P.Budfucker: “Come on Goldie, you can’t fool certain of us with history. Saddam was the enemy of our enemy.”

    Why bother to fool a fool? Psst….Saddam was STILL the ememy of Iran in ’03, but don’t let the obvious shock you.

  55. 865

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 9:32 pm

    yeah its really old like Senator Bird belonged to the KKK yawn

  56. 866

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 9:36 pm

    Seniter Bird probibly was a founding father of the KKK for christ sake lol

  57. 867

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 9:39 pm

    I think we should raise property taxes to pay for the inhearitense tax

    We gota help them poor rich folk out right buttnutz?

  58. 868

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 9:40 pm

    yeah its really old like Senator Bird belonged to the KKK yawn

    Commentby The Socialist— 9/3/06@ 9:32 pm

    You lefties have thin skin. If you bring up a couple facts from the past abut lefties and they get pissed. The left makes a movie about assisinating a sitting republican president and it is freedom of speech and artistic. Typical lefty.

  59. 869

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 9:41 pm

    They might have to down size to 3 mansions instead of 4 .

    We can’t have that can we

  60. 870

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 9:42 pm

    Well anyways remember to watch “the path to 911” on Sept 10th and 11th.

  61. 871

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeanASS spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 9:45 pm

    Damned hate filled lefty morons…

    “ So 17-year-old Laura Welch did cause the death of a friend by running a stop sign, but to see more in the story than that is to surrender oneself up to baseless imaginings. Yes, it is always easier to attribute malice to bad outcomes, but that does not mean malice is an integral component of tragedy, especially those involving people Fate later chooses to exalt. “

    Claim: While a teenager, future First Lady Laura Bush caused the death of a classmate in a car accident.

    And these hate-filled little pricklets think they should run the country.

  62. 872

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 9:45 pm

    that’s a british movie … Yeah I herd about that

    It seems like the British aren’t very happy with bush

    heheheheeee

    I actually thought that was really to far … But what can you do there ferners…….

  63. 873

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 9:46 pm

    hey buttnutz started it

  64. 874

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 9:46 pm

    I mean, give {Give] me a break “.” CBS just hired Curic to ancore [anchor] CBS eving [evening] news for christ sake …… “.”

    Commentby The Socialist [………..Billions for Democrat NEA run public schools, and please note the results.]

  65. 875

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeanASS spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 9:46 pm

    The police report indicates no charges were filed. That section of the report was left blank.

    “As far as we know, no charges were filed,” said Midland city attorney Keith Stretcher. “I don’t think it’s unusual that charges weren’t filed.”

  66. 876

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 9:50 pm

    I droped out of school butnutz that why i can’t speel

    :-)

  67. 877

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 9:50 pm

    Should someone post a link to what the swimmer did to Mary Jo. I think they should. Good ole Teddy.

  68. 878

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeanASS spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 9:50 pm

    “Cute” Katie

  69. 879

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 9:51 pm

    I don’t appease fascists. I bash ’em every time I post!

    GOP = fascist

  70. 880

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 9:52 pm

    Fascist-bashing is fun — and patriotic, too!

    GOP = unpatriotic

  71. 881

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 9:52 pm

    It’s funny how rich people never seam to get charged for anything thing

  72. 882

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 9:53 pm

    4, 5

    Hey Socialist — are you Roger Rabbit in disguise?

  73. 883

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 9:54 pm

    72

    But do you kill like your fellow liberals like Haq. We know that Haq was a liberal because:

    Haq’s friend said he couldn’t believe the timid, “geeky” man he knew from the tutoring center was capable of such violence.

    “Are you sure we’re talking about the same person?” he said Sunday………….

    He said Haq was not a devout Muslim and often complained that the Tri-Cities were too politically conservative.

    “I’m beginning to think I was his only friend in the Tri-Cities. I don’t recall him hanging out with anybody else.”

  74. 884

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 9:55 pm

    46

    “Buttnutz you know that Laura bush ran her boy friend over with her car when she was in her 20s

    But you don’t here democrats bringing that up every 5 minutes because we have more class then that ……..

    Commentby The Socialist— 9/3/06@ 9:20 pm”

    I can fix that problem right now. Laura Bush killed a guy when she was 17 — and she wasn’t even drinking! Which makes you wonder whether it was, you know, intentional?

  75. 885

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 9:56 pm

    I herd Ken Lay is even going to be found not responsible for enron now he is dead . So his estate will be off limits to law suits…

  76. 886

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 9:59 pm

    wow i thought she was in her 20’s egads that’s even worse :-)

  77. 887

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 10:11 pm

    61

    “The left makes a movie about assisinating a sitting republican president and it is freedom of speech and artistic. Typical lefty” Commentby RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy— 9/3/06@ 9:40 pm

    Lefties? What wall did you peel that off? Sounds to me like these guys are just businessmen trying to make a buck. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/More4

  78. 888

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 10:13 pm

    76

    Haq is a fundie wingnut.

  79. 889

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeanASS spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 10:15 pm

    Rarebit Rodent is not a complete idiot — Some parts are missing.

  80. 890

    K spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 10:21 pm

    Me @ 52 and 56- I continue to be disappointed but no longer surprised at our righty friends ubwilingness to actually engage on serious issues.

    Their typical default is to their silly BS.

    And so to bed………….

  81. 891

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 10:22 pm

    “Woman Who Filed Sex Suit Against Bush Dead
    Clipped from a Yahoo board: 11-10-3

    “Woman who filed sexual assault lawsuit against bush confirmed dead, cause of death listed as ‘gunshot wound to head’…

    “I finally got some confirmation from an obit in the Houston Chronicle that Margie Schoedinger, the woman who filed a sexual assault lawsuit against Bush last year, died in September.

    “I called the Harris County Medical Examiner’s office, which lists her cause of death as a ‘gunshot wound to the head’ and ‘suicide.’ Anyone versed in CIA/Mafia lingo knows that ‘suicide’ sometimes means ‘murder’ or at least carries with it some pressure to commit suicide by outside parties, such as those against whom that person has filed a lawsuit. I’m not yet saying this is a murder – you draw your own conclusion.

    “When I talked to Schoedinger in July she sounded in good health. She was only 38. It’s another weird tragedy surrounding the Bush administration …

    “Here is the info and link from the paper:

    “Paper: Houston Chronicle
    “Date: Saturday 09/27/03
    “Section: A
    “Edition: 3

    … “MARGIE D. SCHOEDINGER expired Monday, 9/22/03 . Visitation: Friday, 9/26/03 , 7 to 9pm, McCoy & Harrison Chapel. Funeral Service: Saturday, 9/27/03 , 1:30pm, McCoy & Harrison Chapel. Interment, Houston Memorial Gardens. …

    “Here are the two stories about the lawsuit which were widely circulated on the net:

    “http://www.rense.com/general32/charged.htm
    “http://www.rense.com/general32/bhh.htm”

    Hey — I didn’t make this up, somebody else did: http://tinyurl.com/eh5rs

  82. 892

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 10:24 pm

    84

    Yeah the woman was a nut case, but so what? The story makes a good smear. Why should Republicans be the only ones to smear their opposition? We should do that, too! Always follow the Golden Rule, I say … which is: Do it to them before they get a chance to do it to you!

  83. 893

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 10:25 pm

    I can fix that problem right now. Laura Bush killed a guy when she was 17 – and she wasn’t even drinking! Which makes you wonder whether it was, you know, intentional?

    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 9/3/06@ 9:55 pm

    It wasnt like she left him to drown or anything…. geeeesh.

  84. 894

    Mike Webb Sucks spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 10:28 pm

    Day Two of my request for Goldie to link Haaretz and Jerusalem Post to ASSHeads so moonbats can receive unsanitized info of the middle east instead of the crap from MSM!

    How about it Goldie?

  85. 895

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 10:32 pm

    Breaking news:

    The crocodile hunter is dead. Apparently he got to close to a sting ray. Ouchhhhh!!!

  86. 896

    For the Clueless spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 10:48 pm

    The “path to 9/11” is wingnut propaganda.

    The plane hit the towers on Bush’s watch. Bush was warned. He was too busy vacationing to bother worrying about bin Laden.

  87. 897

    For the Clueless spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 10:52 pm

    72 – Haq is a mentally ill baptized Christian – like DOOFUS.

  88. 898

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 10:53 pm

    No. 2 al-Qaida leader in Iraq arrested
    By ELENA BECATOROS

    The Associated Press

    BAGHDAD, Iraq – Iraqi and coalition forces have arrested the second most senior figure in al-Qaida in Iraq, Iraq’s national security adviser announced on Sunday, saying the group now suffered from a “serious leadership crisis.”

    Hamed Jumaa Farid al-Saeedi, known as Abu Humam or Abu Rana, was captured north of Baghdad a few days ago “along with another group of his aides and followers,” Mouwafak al-Rubaie said.

    He was the second most important al-Qaida in Iraq leader after Abu Ayyub al-Masri, who took over the group after Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was killed by a U.S. air strike north of Baghdad on June 7, al-Rubaie said.

    “We believe that al-Qaida in Iraq suffers from a serious leadership crisis. Our troops have dealt fatal and painful blows to this organization,” the security adviser said.

    What!!!! This has to be a misprint. According to K Bush said that there was no link between Sadam and al-quida! Right K?

  89. 899

    For the Clueless spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 10:56 pm

    91 – Nice find DOOFUS. We’ll let you run with that for a while.

    [/snicker]

  90. 900

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 10:56 pm

    72 – Haq is a mentally ill baptized Christian – like DOOFUS.

    Commentby For the Clueless— 9/3/06@ 10:52 pm

    Not exactly. He hated conservatives. The fact he killed Jews just futhers the argument that he indeed was a lefty.

  91. 901

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 10:58 pm

    92

    Maybe you should read the entire article K posted from the Seattle Times and get back to me. [/snicker]

  92. 902

    Mike Webb Sucks spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 10:58 pm

    Furball lies again: Haq is a fundie wingnut. Commentby Roger Rabbit— 9/3/06@ 10:13 pm

    A fundie wingnut is not a muslim, and does not claim muslimism when he starts shooting. A crazed moonbat like the new white American Al Qaeda does though! I wonder if he was moonbat like John Lindh was (Marin County – Nancy Pelosiland).

    Keep up the lie Furball. The Furballettes like reading your lies.

  93. 903

    For the Clueless spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 11:02 pm

    93 – Do lefties walk into a church, learn the Bible and get baptized?

    Oh by the way, these righties Jew haters. They’re just not mentally-ill enough to kill any – yet.

    Are those your peeps DOOFUS?

  94. 904

    Mike Webb Sucks spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 11:03 pm

    Oh Clueless: How do you explain John Walker Lindh – the original American Taliban? He was moonbat through and through. His parents are/were well heeled and well known Marin County Moonbats. They may have moved by now.

    I wonder if Scott Peterson is/was moonbat? In prison he’s now the San Francisco treat! Kill your spouse to get the money. Sounds moonbattic to me!

  95. 905

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 11:04 pm

    95

    Only in lefty land can a muslimmmm who hates conservatives be considered a fundie wingnut. Of course it makes sense because everything else they say is lies.

  96. 906

    For the Clueless spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 11:06 pm

    94 – Tell you what DOOFUS, keep repeating that Preznit Shrub said there WAS a link between Saddam’s regime and al-Qaeda.

    Repeat it over 60 times like the Haq story. Repeat it 1000 times if you like.

  97. 907

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 11:07 pm

    93 – Do lefties walk into a church, learn the Bible and get baptized?

    Commentby For the Clueless— 9/3/06@ 11:02 pm

    He probably couldn’t make up his mind if he was going to knock off a Jew or a Christian. Did he attend church often? We know he said he hated conservatives often.

  98. 908

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 11:08 pm

    94 – Tell you what DOOFUS, keep repeating that Preznit Shrub said there WAS a link between Saddam’s regime and al-Qaeda.

    Repeat it over 60 times like the Haq story. Repeat it 1000 times if you like.

    Commentby For the Clueless— 9/3/06@ 11:06 pm

    No need to, you did it for me.

  99. 909

    Mike Webb Sucks spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 11:08 pm

    Clueless has left planet earth. Thanks for the link clueless. I guess you only read the first five paragraphs. Good enough for me, he defended Reagan.

    The cannonball head is a jew and christian hater. Sounds to me he’s related to Goldie! Sounds to me his moonbat!

    Wecan’ttakeyouseriouslywhenyouareamoonbat=clueless

  100. 910

    For the Clueless spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 11:08 pm

    WOS – I can explain Lindh easily – hold up a mirror.

    Just like some people become Moonies and some become Scientologists and some become Wahabists –

    Some people become wingnuts. I hear the entry drug is Limbaugh.

  101. 911

    americafirst spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 11:08 pm

    No. 2 al-Qaida leader in Iraq arrested
    Commentby RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy— 9/3/06@ 10:53 pm
    —————————————————
    Bin-Laden might have to give up his volunteer work as a speech writer for the Democrats while he searches for a replacement.

  102. 912

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 11:11 pm

    86

    No, she just flattened him with her car.

  103. 913

    For the Clueless spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 11:12 pm

    Tell you what WOS – change your name to Goldman, enter the air-force academy and see how long it takes for someone to ask you why you killed Jesus Christ.

    WOS – lame and insane.

  104. 914

    For the Clueless spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 11:13 pm

    No need to, you did it for me.

    I knew it. You’re hearing voices. Take your risperdal DOOFUS.

  105. 915

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 11:15 pm

    86 (continued)

    You know — he’s road pizza … like this: http://tinyurl.com/s736f

  106. 916

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 11:18 pm

    HEY REDNECK!!! Stick THIS in your ear!!!

    “WASHINGTON – The federal deficit appears on track to register less than $300 billion for the budget year ending Sept. 30, as … tax collections are surging … reflecting … strong growth in taxes paid on corporate profits and income taxes paid by wealthier people ….” http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13758782/

    (Since you’re too fucking lazy to read a newspaper, watch TV, or do your own fucking research, I decided to shove this article up your ass where it belongs.)

  107. 917

    Mike Webb Sucks spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 11:20 pm

    So clueless are you “men in white coats too”? Telling people to take drugs again? Interesting.

    I knew it. You’re hearing voices. Take your risperdal DOOFUS. Commentby For the Clueless— 9/3/06@ 11:13 pm

  108. 918

    For the Clueless spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 11:21 pm

    Oh by the way WOS and DOOFUS those Jew haters at the Air Force Academy are fundie wingnuts.

  109. 919

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 11:21 pm

    112

    You can tell by look at the swarmy punk he is a liberal. The
    truth keeps on pouring in on the left.

  110. 920

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 11:23 pm

    Oh by the way WOS and DOOFUS those Jew haters at the Air Force Academy are fundie wingnuts.

    Commentby For the Clueless— 9/3/06@ 11:21 pm

    So what you are saying is that Jew haters on the right, if any, call Jews names while on the left they kill them. Thanks for shedding light on that.

  111. 921

    Mike Webb Sucks spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 11:23 pm

    Furball placed this: “strong growth in taxes paid on corporate profits and income taxes paid by wealthier people ….” http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13758782/ (Since you’re too fucking lazy to read a newspaper, watch TV, or do your own fucking research, I decided to shove this article up your ass where it belongs.)

    Wasn’t it moonbats who said it was tax breaks for the rich? Wasn’t it moonbats who said it was corporate welfare?
    WTF? It looks like Furball contradicted the lemmings frogmarch! Richa nd corporations are paying their fair share after all!

  112. 922

    For the Clueless spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 11:26 pm

    117 – if any? Nice try Doofus. They exist. They’re being sued by Weinstein.

    And they’re your peeps! Give ’em a high five next time you’re in CO Springs.

  113. 923

    Mike Webb Sucks spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 11:26 pm

    RUFUS: This is like going to the Evergreen Fair and shooting the water gun at the clown face hole. Watch the moonbats heads blow up and BLAM they explode!

  114. 924

    Puddybud Big Weiner Nagin spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 11:29 pm

    Clueless: I visit Co Sp every so often. I’ll tell them you send regards!

  115. 925

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 11:38 pm

    113 (continued)

    HEY GASBAG! YEAH YOU — REDNECK WELSHER GASBAG!! In case you have trouble understanding what this news story signifies, here’s some illuminating analysis from a REAL ECONOMIST (as opposed to a wingnut ignoramus like you who pulls shit out of his ass):

    “July 17, 2006
    “Income Redistribution and Tax Revenue

    “If Dooh Nibor, the reverse Robin Hood of the Second Gilded Age, uses his political and economic powers to take a dollar from the poor and give it to the rich, what happens to tax revenue in a progressive tax system? Greg Ip and Deborah Solomon look at the recent increase in tax revenues and note that while tax revenues and output both exceeded projections, the amount that output growth exceeded projections was small. This implies the unexpected increase in tax revenue is largely a compositional effect rather than a consequence of higher than expected economic growth:

    “As Bigger Piece of Economic Pie Shifts To Wealthiest, U.S. Deficit Heads Downward, by Greg Ip and Deborah Solomon:

    “In announcing a big drop in its estimate of this year’s federal budget deficit, the Bush administration was quick to credit itself. ‘Tax cuts worked to generate economic growth, and economic growth is now working to raise revenues,’ White House budget director Rob Portman said …(.) But this explanation falls short. While tax revenue is growing far faster than the Bush administration forecast …, the nation’s economy isn’t. What has changed isn’t the size of the economy, but how the economic pie is divided.

    “The share of national income going to corporations and the wealthiest individuals, already large, has expanded, while the share going to typical wage earners has shrunk. Because corporations and the wealthy generally pay income tax at higher rates than does the typical wage earner, that shift benefits the federal Treasury.

    “U.S. tax revenue for fiscal 2006 … is expected to be 5% — or $115 billion — higher, than the administration projected in February. Largely as a result, the budget deficit is expected to be $296 billion this year, instead of $423 billion. But total economic output is expected to be just 1% larger, before adjusting for inflation …. After adjusting for inflation, it is projected to be just 0.1% larger. … So, the tax windfall is another piece of evidence that income inequality in the U.S. continues to grow ….

    “Rudolph Penner, a senior fellow at … a Washington think tank, and a CBO director picked by Republicans in the 1980s, says a supply-side effect ‘doesn’t come close to explaining the revenue surge.’ … He notes the administration itself puts the tax cuts’ maximum supply-side boost at just 0.7% of GDP, stretched over many years. Mr. Penner says the revenue surge reflects not a supply-side effect but a replay of the late 1990s, when the 1% of richest taxpayers prospered most ….”

    “Update: Gene Sperling has more on the lack of evidence for supply-side claims:

    “Inconvenient Facts and Bush’s Supply-Side Boast, by Gene Sperling, Bloomberg:

    “… Judging from the White House’s recent economic bragging, when it comes to their tax cuts, only positive news can be allowed into evidence. They are like the student who wants to throw out all of his bad tests scores and be graded only on occasional shows of improvement. … [I]t is hard to swallow the Bush White House’s assertions of direct causation between their tax cuts and any improvement in economic projection.

    “You just can’t ignore the fact that this recovery shows the worst job creation on record and that when you look at the complete recovery — as opposed to its best couple of years — growth and investment have been weak. It is also hard to ignore that since the 2001 tax cuts were passed, median family income declined every single year, and since the 2003 tax cuts were passed, typical hourly and weekly wages fell in real terms.

    “Finally, there is the 2006 deficit, which the administration initially projected at a $500 billion surplus. It now will be a $300 billion deficit. In other words, the Bush White House is celebrating an $800 billion deterioration. (Even in 2002 — after factoring in the tax cut, the aftermath of recession and Sept. 11 — the administration still projected a $127 billion surplus for 2006.)

    “But we are instructed to ignore all these disappointing facts and focus only on how much revenues have improved over recent projections. Yet, … Revenues over the last several years have been dramatically lower than what the Bush administration projected when it took office in 2001. … In total, revenues between 2003 and 2006 fell short of the 2001 forecast by $1.8 trillion. …”

    (These articles are quoted under the Fair Use doctrine; for complete stories and/or copyright info, see http://tinyurl.com/kp4dt

  116. 926

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 11:48 pm

    113 (continued)

    Did you catch all of that, Gasbag? Let’s summarize:

    1) A Reagan administration supply-sider says “a supply-side effect ‘doesn’t come close to explaining the revenue surge’ and says “the revenue surge reflects not a supply-side effect” but more of the nation’s income going to “the 1% of richest taxpayers.”

    2) This recovery “shows the worst job creation on record” and “weak” growth and investment.

    3) Since Bush’s 2001 tax cuts, “median family income (has)declined every single year” and since the 2003 tax cuts “typical hourly and weekly wages fell in real terms.”

    4) The Bush administration sold its tax cuts by predicting a $500 billion surplus in 2006, and is now celebrating because the deficit is “only” $300 billion — in other words, they were off by 800 HUNDRED FUCKING BILLION DOLLARS!!!

    5) Actual revenues for 2003 to 2006 are 1.8 FUCKING TRILLION DOLLARS LESS than what Bush and his lackeys predicted.

    Any questions? I have a question, Gasbag … which community college did you say you got your four degrees from? (I want to look into their accreditation.)

  117. 927

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 11:53 pm

    Redneck just got skewered by a 12 3/8-lb. rabbit! For picture of Redneck, click here: http://tinyurl.com/ltmor

  118. 928

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 9/3/06 at 11:55 pm

    118

    MWS is another wingnut who seems confused, not only by what it all means, but as to what I said. God, can I ask a question? Why did You make wingnuts so stoopid? Are they what came off Your assembly line after You ran out of brains?

  119. 929

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 12:13 am

    Adam Gadahn [Pearlman] was moonbat: http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=239727

    Gadahn was born Adam Pearlman, the son of 1960s psychedelic musician Phil Pearlman[………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….Could be related to Carl Grossman!!!!]

  120. 930

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 12:43 am

    I work the graveyard shift, and it’s time for me to hop up the hill to eat Stefan’s garden and shit on his lawn! Later, trollfuck traitors! I’ll see you when I see you — unless they hang you first!

  121. 931

    Daddy Love spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 7:21 am

    RUFUS

    Hey, is that an acronym? ANyway:
    “There are rave reviews for the ABC mini series “A path to 911″.”

    Funny, that’s not what I’m hearing. I’m hearing that it’s a cheap hit job that kisses Bush’s ass while blaming Clinton for 9/11, and that it represents ABC trying to influence the fall election with questionable GOP propaganda. No wonder you’re looking forward to it.

  122. 932

    Daddy Love spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 7:33 am

    RUFUS @ 90

    “Iraqi and coalition forces have arrested the second most senior figure in al-Qaida in Iraq”

    Again? How many times are they going to catch the “#2 man?”

    I won’t bother explaining the history of Saddam’s contacts and lack of operational cooperation with al Qaeda, as it was covered by both the media (not abnough, apparently) and the 9/11 commission, of teh history of the group Montheism and Jihad, called “Al Qaida in Iraq” by the American media, and the lack of operational cooperation between Osma’s al Qaeda and them.

    But OF COURSE Bush and his people hyped a connection between Saddam and Osama. Where the fuck else did half of Americans get the idea?

  123. 933

    Another TJ spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 8:13 am

    Sheldon Rampton explains a few of the problems with “Path to 9/11”:

    http://www.firedoglake.com/200.....cking-911/

  124. 934

    Harry Tuttle spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 8:21 am

    On the previous thread:

    Tuttle – Glad you’re here. Here’s one of your best:

    “This most recent round of tax cuts will continue to explode the deficit by giving away over $900 Billion to the super-rich over the next ten years. [4/5/06 NYTimes]
    Commentby Harry Tuttle aka Voter Advocate— 4/24/06@ 5:17 pm

    Commentby Mark The Redneck KENNEDY— 9/3/06@ 12:49 pm

    I’m glad you liked it, MTR, though I had to look to see what the context of the post was. It turned out to be a “press release” from Billionaires for Bush that I posted in toto. That makes it a quote within a quote.

    One could go to tbe Brookings Institute paper for the original analysis, but the following source should suffice:

    http://www.cbpp.org/2-6-06bud.htm

    Tax cuts for high-income households account for a large share of these sizeable tax-cut costs. Analysis by the Urban Institute-Brookings Institution Tax Policy Center shows that when fully in effect, the tax cuts enacted in 2001 and 2003 (including AMT relief) will provide an average tax cut of $650 for the middle fifth of households, but of $136,000 for people who make over $1 million a year. (These figures are in 2004 dollars.) The tax cuts, if made permanent, would provide an estimated $900 billion in tax cuts over the next ten years to the top one percent of households, with more than $600 billion of this amount going to the 0.2 percent of households that make over $1 million a year.

  125. 935

    Harry Tuttle spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 8:27 am

    But the tax cut is only part of the picture:

    The richest 10% of all taxpaying households in the U.S. saw their share of total annual income rise from 33% in 1970 to 48% by 2000—a gain of 15%. Conversely, the remaining 90% of the approximately 134 million taxpayers saw their share of national income each year decline by the same 15%–from 67% to 52%.

    Fifteen percent may seem like a small number, but when it is 15% of a $6.2 trillion annual U.S. economy it amounts to approximately $900 billion a year. Had the 15% shift not occurred, each of the approximately 100 million working class Americans who make their living almost exclusively from hourly wages today would be getting $9,000 more in their paychecks this year.

    Even more noteworthy is that the 15% / $900 billion is not divided proportionately among the richest 10% taxpayers. The richest 90-95% (the bottom half of the richest 10%) realized no increase in their share of national income from 1973 to 2000, according to the US Census Bureau. Although their incomes rose substantially over the period, their share of the total income pie was still flat.

  126. 936

    jaybo spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 8:34 am

    Remember when Kerry and the dems constantly told us that we had to work with our european allies?

    I wonder if this is what they had in mind…..

    Last update – 17:01 04/09/2006

    Europe nixes landing rights for El Al planes with IDF cargo

    By Zohar Blumenkrantz, Haaretz Correspondent

    A number of European states are refusing to allow El Al cargo planes carrying Israel Defense Forces equipment from stopover landings in their airports.

    The refusal came from states considered friendly with Israel, including Britain, Germany and Italy, according to Captain Etai Regev, the chairman of El Al’s pilots’ union.

    Regev sent a letter of complaint on the matter to Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and to the Defense Ministry, the Finance Ministry, and the Tourism Ministry.

    According to Regev, El Al flights bearing heavy loads that arrive from U.S. bases “are not given approval by European states to make stopover landings for refueling, for political reasons.

    “As a result, cargo planes are taking off from the U.S. with much lighter weight, and are reaching Israel with significantly fewer munitions than needed.”

    Regev called this “a substantial blow to state defense.”

    In his letter, Regev complained about the government’s decision last month to allow Italy’s flag carrier, Alitalia, to fly Israeli state employees abroad for the first time.

    “Israel’s response to this is the transfer of labor to Italian pilots at the cost of Israeli pilots,” he wrote.

  127. 937

    Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 8:35 am

    Tuttle – Obviously you’re too fucking stoopid to understand what I meant… Geez, you’re so fucking stoopid you don’t even know how fucking stoopid you are…

    How the fuck does government “give” anything to wealthy people? Tell me the name of the department(s) that wrote $900B in checks to wealthy people.

    There aren’t any you fucking idiot.

    What you refuse to understand is that not stealing money from somebody is not the same as giving them something.

  128. 938

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 8:53 am

    BUSH’S WAR AGAINST THE INNOCENT

    The Associated Press reports this morning that a Syracuse University study of Justice Department data reveals that federal prosecutors rejected more 90% of the terrorism cases referred by the FBI, Customs, Immigration, and other federal agencies between September 1, 2005 and May 31, 2006. The most common reason was insufficient evidence or no evidence that a crime had been committed.

    And despite a sharp increase in prosecutions, 47% of those convicted received no jail time and only 1% were sentenced to 20 years or more — suggesting the administration frequently overcharges defendants and/or labels ordinary crime as “terrorism.”

    The article quotes James Dempsey, policy director of the Center for Democracy and Technology, as saying “terrorism is actually very rare – far more people are killed in ordinary street crime.”

    A Justice Department study released in June 2006 painted a rosier picture, but former New York Times reporter David Burnham, the Syracuse group’s co-director, said DOJ officials refused to give them the definitions used in compiling their numbers on grounds that might undermine anti-terrorism enforcement.

    Steven Aftergood, director of the Federation of American Scientists’ government secrecy project, said, “An empirical study like (Syracuse’s) cuts through the rhetoric (and) lets us see just how many terrorists are being brought to justice. The data suggest that some of the official rhetoric is misleading.”

    The Bush administration, of course, criticized the Syracuse study. DOJ spokesman Bryan Sierra claimed prison sentences are “not the proper measure of the success of … counterterrorism efforts … (whose) goal … is to detect, disrupt and deter terrorist activities.”

    By prosecuting innocent people, or labeling ordinary street criminals “terrorists”? Yeah, right.

    For the AP article, see http://tinyurl.com/f74gh

  129. 939

    Harry Tuttle spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 8:59 am

    It is true that I struggled with abnormal psychology, so I do have a hard time understanding the ramblings of sociopaths like you, MTR, but maybe an example will help you understand what normal human beings get.

    Let us say your palatial estate sits in northern New Hampshire, and that some dimwit non-producer comes around everytime it snows and clears your walks and driveways with a snow blower. You’ve been paying him to do it, and evertime he shows up you go out and complain about how he’s ripping you off, and he grows so tired of your yammering he quits billing you. He continues to do the work though, because you threaten to fire his non-producing wife who cooks your meals and cleans your house. Instead of going to the poorhouse, he raises the rate for his services on all his other customers.

    That poor fuck has given you the price of his services. He should have run you over with the blower, but folks just keep giving you passes. God only knows why.

  130. 940

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 8:59 am

    BUSH’S WAR AGAINST EFFECTIVE PROSECUTIONS

    The same article says, “At the penalty trial of … Zacarias Moussaoui, the government acknowledged that it has captured most of the Sept. 11 ringleaders” but can’t prosecute them because it “has never disproved persistent allegations they were tortured during interrogations”.

    Meanwhile, Dempsey faults the Bush administration for “arresting people and making a big media splash” on flimsy evidence that doesn’t pan out and results in a large percentage of “terrorism suspects” being released without charges, or prosecuted for minor offenses.

  131. 941

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 9:01 am

    The Syracuse study is more evidence of what I and others have been saying all along: The Bush administration is ineffective, is just plain fucking incompetent, and is violating the rights of innocent people wholesale.

  132. 942

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 9:03 am

    114

    “The truth keeps on pouring in on the left.” Commentby RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy— 9/3/06@ 11:21 pm

    Does your home have one of those 1950s nuclear bomb shelters? Anytime a wingnut starts throwing around the word “truth,” run for cover!!!

  133. 943

    Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 9:07 am

    Now that Roger Rabbit has been educated about the relationship between tax rates, federal revenue, and deficits, we can move onto the next topic.

    Roger Rabbit is full of shit when he talks about unemployment. Here’s a quote from the furry little rodent: “Republicans… deliberately pursue polices that create high unemployment and tear holes in the safety net in order to create a large pool of desperate workers who will accept low wages and bad working conditions to survive.” Comment by Roger Rabbit— 1/2/06@ 11:45 pm

    The table below from BLS ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/suppl/empsit.cpseea1.txt proves just how full of shit Roger Rabbit is. Unemployment is lower now than it was during most of Clinton’s administration. There was a spike in unemployment after the 9-11 attacks, but it quickly came back down and has been going down ever since as the economy has strengthened. Clearly, Republican policies put people to work so they don’t need a government “safety net”. Now that’s real compassion.

    Year Unemployment Rate
    1992 7.5
    1993 6.9
    1994 6.1
    1995 5.6
    1996 5.4
    1997 4.9
    1998 4.5
    1999 4.2
    2000 4.0
    2001 4.7
    2002 5.8
    2003 6.0
    2004 5.5
    2005 5.1
    2006 4.7

  134. 944

    Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 9:16 am

    137 – Is it just me? Can anybody make any fucking sense out of Harry’s post at 137 and what the fuck it has to do with the challenge I gave him @ 135? Geez…

  135. 945

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 9:24 am

    134

    Could it be those European governments are reluctant to facilitate the transfer of weaponry to Israel because they don’t want to provoke terrorist attacks against their citizenries? Ya think?? Du-uuhh.

  136. 946

    Puddybud Ray Nagin Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 9:35 am

    Sheldon Rampton explains a few of the problems with “Path to 9/11″: http://www.firedoglake.com/200.....cking-911/ Commentby Another TJ— 9/4/06@ 8:13 am

    You present a moonbat author as refutation? HA HA HA HA HA
    HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

    Apparently Sheldon Rampton didn’t read Deriliction of Duty by Lt. Col. Patterson (Retired). It would have seared his eyes with the truth. He details the July 1996 Wimbledon event where Clinton would not answer Berger’s requests to take out Bin Laden. End of Story

    You See ATJ, you need to read more than one source. At that time he was Major Patterson and he had the nuclear football with him in England that day.

    You are the missing link: DISMISSED WITH PREJUDICE!

  137. 947

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 9:36 am

    Decades after a German U-boat sank the Lusitania, spurring U.S. entry into World War I, the public finally learned the truth from declassified archives: The Lusitania’s holds were full of arms, including over 4 million rifle cartridges, over 1,000 cases of artillery shells, and thousands of tons of explosive munitions listed on the manifest as “cheese.” (The Lusitania had no refrigeration facilities capable of storing cheese.)

    It was (and is) illegal to ship explosives on passenger vessels, and the presence of this cargo made the ship a legitimate military target. But the passengers (and possibly crew) weren’t told this. They were unwitting guinea pigs for government perfidy.

    Now — some trollfuck was saying something about landing rights for El Al plans carrying military cargo — ??

  138. 948

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 9:36 am

    planes not plans

  139. 949

    Puddybud Ray Nagin Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 9:40 am

    By prosecuting innocent people, or labeling ordinary street criminals “terrorists”? Yeah, right. For the AP article, see http://tinyurl.com/f74gh Commentby Roger Rabbit— 9/4/06@ 8:53 am

    Pelletizer, you dipshit, you’ll be the first to SCREAM & HOLLER if a terrorist attack happens on US soil again. And when it’s determined the ACLU and their cronies such as most leftist librul moonbat exploding heads on ASSHeads were the reason a person passed through the crack, your position will become NULL & VOID!

  140. 950

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 9:40 am

    141

    “Unemployment is lower now than it was during most of Clinton’s administration.” Commentby Mark The Redneck KENNEDY— 9/4/06@ 9:07 am

    What Gasbag conveniently fails to mention is that unemployment has been below 5% only during the last 6 months, and was high during the first 5 years of the Bush administration.

  141. 951

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 9:44 am

    Don’t be shy, Gasbag; let’s show ’em ALL the unemployment figures for Clinton and Shrub:

    1993-01-01 7.3
    1993-02-01 7.1
    1993-03-01 7.0
    1993-04-01 7.1
    1993-05-01 7.1
    1993-06-01 7.0
    1993-07-01 6.9
    1993-08-01 6.8
    1993-09-01 6.7
    1993-10-01 6.8
    1993-11-01 6.6
    1993-12-01 6.5
    1994-01-01 6.6
    1994-02-01 6.6
    1994-03-01 6.5
    1994-04-01 6.4
    1994-05-01 6.1
    1994-06-01 6.1
    1994-07-01 6.1
    1994-08-01 6.0
    1994-09-01 5.9
    1994-10-01 5.8
    1994-11-01 5.6
    1994-12-01 5.5
    1995-01-01 5.6
    1995-02-01 5.4
    1995-03-01 5.4
    1995-04-01 5.8
    1995-05-01 5.6
    1995-06-01 5.6
    1995-07-01 5.7
    1995-08-01 5.7
    1995-09-01 5.6
    1995-10-01 5.5
    1995-11-01 5.6
    1995-12-01 5.6
    1996-01-01 5.6
    1996-02-01 5.5
    1996-03-01 5.5
    1996-04-01 5.6
    1996-05-01 5.6
    1996-06-01 5.3
    1996-07-01 5.5
    1996-08-01 5.1
    1996-09-01 5.2
    1996-10-01 5.2
    1996-11-01 5.4
    1996-12-01 5.4
    1997-01-01 5.3
    1997-02-01 5.2
    1997-03-01 5.2
    1997-04-01 5.1
    1997-05-01 4.9
    1997-06-01 5.0
    1997-07-01 4.9
    1997-08-01 4.8
    1997-09-01 4.9
    1997-10-01 4.7
    1997-11-01 4.6
    1997-12-01 4.7
    1998-01-01 4.6
    1998-02-01 4.6
    1998-03-01 4.7
    1998-04-01 4.3
    1998-05-01 4.4
    1998-06-01 4.5
    1998-07-01 4.5
    1998-08-01 4.5
    1998-09-01 4.6
    1998-10-01 4.5
    1998-11-01 4.4
    1998-12-01 4.4
    1999-01-01 4.3
    1999-02-01 4.4
    1999-03-01 4.2
    1999-04-01 4.3
    1999-05-01 4.2
    1999-06-01 4.3
    1999-07-01 4.3
    1999-08-01 4.2
    1999-09-01 4.2
    1999-10-01 4.1
    1999-11-01 4.1
    1999-12-01 4.0
    2000-01-01 4.0
    2000-02-01 4.1
    2000-03-01 4.0
    2000-04-01 3.8
    2000-05-01 4.0
    2000-06-01 4.0
    2000-07-01 4.0
    2000-08-01 4.1
    2000-09-01 3.9
    2000-10-01 3.9
    2000-11-01 3.9
    2000-12-01 3.9
    2001-01-01 4.2
    2001-02-01 4.2
    2001-03-01 4.3
    2001-04-01 4.4
    2001-05-01 4.3
    2001-06-01 4.5
    2001-07-01 4.6
    2001-08-01 4.9
    2001-09-01 5.0
    2001-10-01 5.3
    2001-11-01 5.5
    2001-12-01 5.7
    2002-01-01 5.7
    2002-02-01 5.7
    2002-03-01 5.7
    2002-04-01 5.9
    2002-05-01 5.8
    2002-06-01 5.8
    2002-07-01 5.8
    2002-08-01 5.7
    2002-09-01 5.7
    2002-10-01 5.7
    2002-11-01 5.9
    2002-12-01 6.0
    2003-01-01 5.8
    2003-02-01 5.9
    2003-03-01 5.9
    2003-04-01 6.0
    2003-05-01 6.1
    2003-06-01 6.3
    2003-07-01 6.2
    2003-08-01 6.1
    2003-09-01 6.1
    2003-10-01 6.0
    2003-11-01 5.9
    2003-12-01 5.7
    2004-01-01 5.7
    2004-02-01 5.6
    2004-03-01 5.7
    2004-04-01 5.5
    2004-05-01 5.6
    2004-06-01 5.6
    2004-07-01 5.5
    2004-08-01 5.4
    2004-09-01 5.4
    2004-10-01 5.4
    2004-11-01 5.4
    2004-12-01 5.4
    2005-01-01 5.2
    2005-02-01 5.4
    2005-03-01 5.1
    2005-04-01 5.1
    2005-05-01 5.1
    2005-06-01 5.0
    2005-07-01 5.0
    2005-08-01 4.9
    2005-09-01 5.1
    2005-10-01 4.9
    2005-11-01 5.0
    2005-12-01 4.9
    2006-01-01 4.7
    2006-02-01 4.8
    2006-03-01 4.7
    2006-04-01 4.7
    2006-05-01 4.6
    2006-06-01 4.6
    2006-07-01 4.8
    2006-08-01 4.7

    Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics
    http://tinyurl.com/rt9hy

    (Of course, these figures don’t take into account any monkeying with definitions and such by the dishonest Bushies; actual unemployment is higher than official figures indicate, because the government doesn’t count at “unemployed” people whose unemployment benefits have exhausted, who have given up looking for work, or who are working part time because they can’t find full time work.)

  142. 952

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 9:45 am

    Man it’s easy to take apart that bullshitter, Gasbag.

  143. 953

    Puddybud Ray Nagin Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 9:47 am

    So Pelletizer, you are saying we shouldn’t have been sending arms to our friends/allies the British?

    Just want to be sure I read you correctly. Through your posting on ASSHeads you CONDONE the slaughter of innocent life because the ship had munitions? How would the Germans known unless some moonbat alerted Germany, “There’s muntitions on the Lusitania. Torpedo it” Only from the mind of a moonbat!

  144. 954

    Daddy Love spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 9:47 am

    RR

    AND that a big component of the drop in the unemployment rate in 2006 was fueled by people DROPPING OUT OF THE WORKFORCE (the so-called “discouraged workers”), as opposed to the Clinton era when it was because people GOT JOBS.

  145. 955

    Puddybud Ray Nagin Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 9:49 am

    Since it was Clinton’s FY2001 budget Bush was operating under look at how unemployment was rising.

    2000-10-01 3.9
    2000-11-01 3.9
    2000-12-01 3.9
    2001-01-01 4.2
    2001-02-01 4.2
    2001-03-01 4.3
    2001-04-01 4.4
    2001-05-01 4.3
    2001-06-01 4.5
    2001-07-01 4.6
    2001-08-01 4.9
    2001-09-01 5.0

    I guess that dot bomb explosion under Clinton really helped Bush all the way back to 5%! Thanks for the break out Pelletizer.

  146. 956

    Another TJ spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 9:52 am

    #144,

    Evidently, you were afraid to read the link. Thanks for playing.

    [Boy, Judge Bridge’s decision really got under your skin. He he.]

  147. 957

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 10:02 am

    151

    “So Pelletizer, you are saying we shouldn’t have been sending arms to our friends/allies the British? Just want to be sure I read you correctly.” Commentby Puddybud Ray Nagin Kennedy— 9/4/06@ 9:47 am

    No, I’m not saying that, and you are NOT reading me correctly. What I’m saying is we shouldn’t have shipped arms to our friends/allies the British on a passenger liner (which was a violation of U.S. law) without telling the innocent passengers (who lost their lives) they were sitting on top of a floating bomb that was a prime target for German subs. That’s what CARGO VESSELS are for, dumbass! Why is it necessary to explain this? Why are wingnuts like you so fucking dense?

  148. 958

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 10:05 am

    So Gasbag … now that you’ve had your tax revenue bullshit shoved back up your ass, have you decided to change the subject to unemployment? My advice is: Don’t go there, you’ll only make things worse for yourself! I suggest you stick to something the Bush administration is good at, such as … um … er …

  149. 959

    For the Clueless spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 10:07 am

    Democrats believe in good government, government that works for all the people.

    Republicans believe in crony government, government that lines the pockets of Republicans.

    Vote against corruption and cronyism. Vote Democrat.

  150. 960

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 10:12 am

    153

    “Thanks for the break out Pelletizer.” Commentby Puddybud Ray Nagin Kennedy— 9/4/06@ 9:49 am

    You’re welcome, Pudpacker! Let’s recap:

    1) Official unemployment was 7.3% when Clinton took over from Bush 41.

    2) Unemployment fell steadily under Clinton, and was under 5% a couple of months into his second term.

    3) Unemployment stayed below 5% throughout Clinton’s second term, and was under 4% when he turned over the presidency to Bush 43.

    4) Under George, unemployment began increasing immediately, and continued its steady upward marched for the next two years, then leveled off above 6% for a few months, before beginning a slow drift to the upper-4s.

    5) At no time under Bush 43 has official unemployment been lower than when Clinton took office.

    Any questions?

  151. 961

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 10:13 am

    And that’s before you take into account falling real wages under the Bush administration — i.e., even those with work are worse off!

  152. 962

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 10:14 am

    Face it, wingnuts, Bush’s economic performance is miserable and you won’t get any traction with economic arguments. Try calling us “commies” and “appeasers” — that isn’t much, but it fools some of the kool-aid drinkers some of the time, and it’s all you’ve got left.

  153. 963

    Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 10:19 am

    158 5)

    Rabbit is full of shit as usual. Unemployment under GWB is lower than it was during MOST of Bubba’s adminsitration. The data doesn’t lie:

    Year Unemployment Rate President
    1992 7.5 WJC
    1993 6.9 WJC
    1994 6.1 WJC
    1995 5.6 WJC
    1996 5.4 WJC
    1997 4.9 WJC
    1998 4.5 WJC
    1999 4.2 WJC
    2000 4.0 WJC
    2001 4.7 GWB
    2002 5.8 GWB
    2003 6.0 GWB
    2004 5.5 GWB
    2005 5.1 GWB
    2006 4.7 GWB

  154. 964

    Puddybud Ray Nagin Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 10:19 am

    #144, Evidently, you were afraid to read the link. Thanks for playing. [Boy, Judge Bridge’s decision really got under your skin. He he.] Commentby Another TJ— 9/4/06@ 9:52 am

    No, the “Dismissed with Prejudice” is your line hehehe. Since many moonbats like using my Nuff SAID! I’ll do the same in the interest of sane postings.

    I did read it. There are many points I could easily dispute in the public record using Moonbat based MSM and books you can buy from Amazon but you’ll never read because Facts hurt librul minds.

  155. 965

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 10:25 am

    Cheap labor conservatives aren’t interested in creating jobs or prosperity for working people. They like high unemployment because it forces down wages. All you have to do is look at the historical facts:

    Jobs created as percentage of workforce:

    Democrat Roosevelt 5.3%
    Democrat Johnson 3.8%
    Democrat Carter 3.1%
    Democrat Truman 2.5%
    Democrat Clinton 2.4%
    Democrat Kennedy 2.3%
    Republican Nixon 2.2%
    Republican Reagan 2.1%
    Republican Coolidge 1.1%
    Republican Ford 1.1%
    Republican Eisenhower 0.9%
    Republican Bush Sr. 0.6%
    Republican Bush Jr. (0.7%)
    Republican Hoover (9.0%)

    From 1921 (Harding – R) to 2003 (Bush – R):

    –Democrats held the White House for 40 years and Republicans for 42.5 years.
    –Democrats created 75,820,000 jobs, Republicans 36,440,000.
    –Average jobs created per year was 1,825,200 Democrats, 856,400, Republicans.
    –Of 9 Republican presidents during that period, 6 presided over depressions or recessions.
    –The Dow average grew 52% more under Democrats.
    –The GDP grew 43% more under Democrats.

    Comparing Clinton to Reagan:

    –Jobs grew 43% more under Clinton.
    –GDP grew 57% more under Clinton.
    –The Dow average grew 700% more under Clinton..
    –The NASDAQ composite average grew 1,800% more under Clinton.
    –Federal spending grew 28% under Clinton, 80% under Reagan.
    –Fedearl debt grew 43% under Clinton, 187% under Reagan.
    –Deficits grew 112% under Reagan, while Clinton eliminated deficits and achieved a surplus, resulting in the lowest inflation rate of the last 50 years.
    –National income grew 100% more under Clinton.
    –Personal income grew 110% more under Clinton.

    SOURCES-Bureau of Labor Statistics (www.BLS.gov)
    Economic Policy Institute (EPI.org)-Global & World Almanacs from 1980 to 2003 (annual issues)

    “The ugly truth is that cheap-labor conservatives just don’t like working people. They don’t like ‘bottom up’ prosperity … (they) believe in social hierarchy and privilege, so the only prosperity they want is limited to them. They want to see absolutely nothing that benefits the guy – or more often the woman – who works for an hourly wage.” http://tinyurl.com/lnzs3

  156. 966

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 10:26 am

    Man I love it when wingfucks debate economics with us, because it’s so fucking easy to take them apart! Their economic arguments are highly vulnerable, because their economic policies are designed to benefit the rich at the exp;ense of the working class. The rightwing is waging class war against workers.

  157. 967

    Puddybud Ray Nagin Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 10:30 am

    Pelletizer: Again you lie and deflect. GWB did not write FY2001 US Budget, CigarMan did. Anything that happened in that year upto October 2001 is CigarMan’s legacy. Since 9/11 happened in 9/2001 it was still in CigarMan’s budget legacy. Do you need remedial assistance in federal budget writing.

    http://www.gpoaccess.gov/usbud.....budget.pdf

    See page 13 Pelletizer and review the name on it!

  158. 968

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 10:31 am

    One consistent feature of rightwingers is they’re self-destructive. They apparently don’t realize that if their economic policies succeed in concentrating most of the nation’s wealth in the hands of a few — which is the objective of their economic philosophy — at the expense of 98% of the population, the likely result is revolution, overthrow of the capitalist system, and repossession by the working class of the wealthy class’s ill-gotten gains. They’re too fucking stupid to realize that the regulated capitalism invented by liberals saved American capitalism and private ownership of property in the 1930s, following a decade of Republican laissez-faire rule that led to economic collapse. What makes wingnuts think the great mass of Americans will tolerate a third-world economic scenario in which 2% of the population owns 95% of the property and receives 95% of the income? That’s asking for revolution.

  159. 969

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 10:34 am

    165

    Wouldn’t the same argument apply to the defense budget? Are you ready to admit that Bush went to war in Iraq and Afghanistan with a military that was modernized and equipped by Clinton? Or does this budget-cycle thing only apply to economics? Do I whiff some hypocrisy in your post? Phew!!!

  160. 970

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 10:35 am

    As a bunny, I have a very sensitive nose, and I pick up the stench of wingnut hypocrisy from a long way off.

  161. 971

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 10:35 am

    For example, I can smell JCH’s stink all the way across the Pacific Ocean.

  162. 972

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 10:36 am

    Hey pudpacker, explain to me again how ordinary working Americans are benefitting from Bush’s economic policies — in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary?

  163. 973

    Puddybud Ray Nagin Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 10:37 am

    Besides Pelletizer, who was Por-NAFTA?

    While you are at it: Here is all of the wonderful crap you fail to post about your great economic progress under Clinton. I held this back for the right time: NOW!

    This is what Clinton/Gore did upto 1996.

    The passage of the “salvage logging” rider that is causing the destruction of ancient public forests and critical watersheds.
    The signing of the Panama Declaration, which undermines protection or marine mammals including dolphins and whales.
    The continuation of the use of methyl bromide, a highly toxic pesticide known to destroy the Earth’s ozone layer.
    The weakening if not the gutting, of the Endangered Species Act through administrative changes in its rules and regulations.
    The passage of NAFTA and GATT, international trade agreements that represent the biggest sellout of American workers in U.S. history and effectively remove environmental protections passed by Congress because any legislation deemed to “restrain free trade” can be declared illegal by international tribunals dominated by large scale corporate interests.
    The lowering of grazing fees on public land, despite promises by candidate Clinton to raise those fees. As a result, Clinton is subsidizing the cattle industry while overtaxing people and land.
    Continuing to subsidize the sugar industry in Florida, which is poisoning the Everglades and diverting large amounts of water needed by wildlife.
    Opening wildlife refuges to hunting and fishing by presidential decrees.
    Weakening the Safe Drinking Water Act by allowing increased levels of lead and arsenic in drinking water supplies.
    Reversing the ban on the production of and importation of PCBs (polychlorinated biphenyls), which may cause more than 40,000 fatalities in the Great Lakes region alone.
    Increasing our dependence on Middle East Oil by breaking the promise to not allow the export of Alaskan oil.

    http://www.debatethis.org/gore/enviro/

  164. 974

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 10:38 am

    The best you wingnuts can do is wave your impotent little hands to dismiss the professional research of dozens of respected economists and scholars who come up with study after study showing that rightwing economics hurts the majority of Americans, and that Bush administration economic predictions are bullshit.

  165. 975

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 10:38 am

    Pathetic. Just fucking pathetic.

  166. 976

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 10:39 am

    What wingnuts are asking drowning men to do is believe they’re sitting in deck chairs sipping margaritas.

  167. 977

    Puddybud Ray Nagin Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 10:39 am

    Ahhh yes I do pack a big pud!

    Did I just read Cheap Labor Moonbats?

    I did! I did!

  168. 978

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 10:40 am

    P.S., and overlook the fact it was wingnuts who threw them overboard.

  169. 979

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 10:40 am

    So where’s Gasbag? Did he cut-and-run after getting his ass kicked by a 12.5-lb. rabbit?

  170. 980

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 10:46 am

    “Some GOP Candidates Distance Themselves From Bush

    “By DAVID HAMMER
    “AP

    “WASHINGTON (Sept. 4) – Republicans who were once cozy with President Bush are distancing themselves from both the president and their party in campaign ads.”

    http://tinyurl.com/jhh7v

    Hey wingnuts — how’s that GOP brand name working for you these days?

    HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR

  171. 981

    Puddybud Ray Nagin Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 10:46 am

    Posts #172-174 COULD HAVE BEEN WRITTEN IN ONE ENTRY. Apparently Pelletizer can’t create cogent thought past a sentence or two unless he’s copying other material.

    Take a deep breath Pelletizer. Focus. Think. Type. Next paragraph. Repeat.

    I will grant you the dot com explosion helped create employment. You forget the dot bomb implosion which occured under your CigarMan started bringing down employment.

  172. 982

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 10:47 am

    In other news, I see the Bush administration is trying to fuck with the food labeling rules so cattlemen can sell grain-fed feedlot beef full of hormones and antibiotics as “grassfed” natural beef — without telling consumers what’s in it.

  173. 983

    Puddybud Ray Nagin Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 10:48 am

    Post #178 is Pelletizer giving up!!!

    Amazing when facts hurt the librul mind!

  174. 984

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 10:49 am

    I tell my veterinarian not to prescribe any medication approved by the FDA since January 15, 2001 — because I don’t want to get killed by the shit Bush is letting his drug company buddies sell to consumers.

    The Republican answer to dangerous products is to outlaw lawsuits or at least cap jury awards so their pals don’t have to pay for the deaths and injuries they inflict on us.

  175. 985

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 10:50 am

    181

    Looks like Hail Mary time for wingnuts … either that, or pudpacker woke up with one hell of a hangover and discovered all he’s got in the kitchen cupboard is decaf.

  176. 986

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 10:51 am

    Well, I’m going on vacation starting tomorrow, and I’ve got a lot of packing to do, so I’m outta here. Later, trollfuck traitors! I’ll see you when I see you — unless they hang you first.

  177. 987

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 10:51 am

    134

    Could it be those European governments are reluctant to facilitate the transfer of weaponry to Israel because they don’t want to provoke terrorist attacks against their citizenries? Ya think?? Du-uuhh.

    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 9/4/06@ 9:24 am

    Yeah that is working out great. Just ask France. hehe

  178. 988

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 10:53 am

    Roger Rabbit will be on vacation from Sept. 5 to Oct. 9. I’m going to hop down to Vegas and tour the salad bars of the casinos — YUMMY!!! :D :D :D

    I’m trusting my liberal pals to hold the fort here, while I’m gone. I may check in once in a while to see how things are going, if I happen to have access to a computer. But I’m mostly going to be on the road for the next six weeks. It’s a long hop to Vegas and back.

  179. 989

    Indoor Spas spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 10:53 am

    9/4/2006 12:55:45 PM
    Hot Tubs

  180. 990

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 10:54 am

    (Of course, these figures don’t take into account any monkeying with definitions and such by the dishonest Bushies; actual unemployment is higher than official figures indicate, because the government doesn’t count at “unemployed” people whose unemployment benefits have exhausted, who have given up looking for work, or who are working part time because they can’t find full time work.)

    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 9/4/06@ 9:44 am

    And you trust Clinton definitions. Have you figured out what “is” is yet? Hahahahaha

  181. 991

    Another TJ spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 10:57 am

    I did read it. There are many points I could easily dispute in the public record using Moonbat based MSM and books you can buy from Amazon but you’ll never read because Facts hurt librul minds.

    Yeah, and after that you’ll produce the NY Times article you’ve been relentlessly searching for that will prove you’ve not a liar.

    http://www.horsesass.org/my-co.....ent-178207

    I think that thread was the first time I quoted the election challenge decision to you. Thanks for the memories.

  182. 992

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 10:58 am

    Wouldn’t the same argument apply to the defense budget? Are you ready to admit that Bush went to war in Iraq and Afghanistan with a military that was modernized and equipped by Clinton? Or does this budget-cycle thing only apply to economics? Do I whiff some hypocrisy in your post? Phew!!!

    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 9/4/06@ 10:34 am

    So it was Clinton fault that we do not have enough armored carriers in Iraq. Thanks for clearing that up.

  183. 993

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 11:00 am

    “The truth keeps on pouring in on the left.” Commentby RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy— 9/3/06@ 11:21 pm

    Does your home have one of those 1950s nuclear bomb shelters? Anytime a wingnut starts throwing around the word “truth,” run for cover!!!

    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 9/4/06@ 9:03 am

    You dems always do. The truth hurts a liberal.

  184. 994

    Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 11:09 am

    Rabbit 166 – Geez, you’re having a bad day. Just pulling stuff out of your ass. Unfortunately for you, MTR is here with facts:

    First the source: http://www.federalreserve.gov/.....ll0206.pdf

    Page A5 of the report shows change in income from 2001 to 2004. “Income also shows a strong positive association with education; in particular, incomes for families headed by
    persons who have a college degree are substantially higher than for those with any lesser amount of schooling.

    Poor people CHOOSE to be poor by CHOOSING not to learn marketable skills. The door is open to them anytime, but they CHOOSE not to take it. They get what they deserve.

    Page A8 of the report shows net worth changes from 2001 to 2004.“Median and mean net worth rose or held about
    steady for all percentile groups of the distribution of
    net worth except for families in the lowest 25 percent
    of the distribution of net worth.”

    So much for the idea that only the rich are doing well under the current administration. Clearly the middle class is doing well. The poor continue to be poor because of their bad choices.

  185. 995

    Jim King spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 11:21 am

    @145 “Decades after”? Roger Rabbit- I learned that the Lusitania was carrying munitions, against the Laws of War, in school- decades ago. Now, admittedly, that was also decades after the Lusitania sank, so you might be technically accurate- if you mean “In the 1960’s- or earlier- decades after…”

    But it sure isn’t new news that Woodrow Wilson lied to the people.

  186. 996

    For the Clueless spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 11:27 am

    Bet-welsher:

    A long time ago you admitted to being a member of a labor union.

    So why are you a Republican?

    Bashing organized labor is a Republican pathology, to the point where unions are referenced with terms reserved for military targets. In his 1996 article, headlined “GOP Readies for War With Big Labor,” conservative columnist Robert Novak cheered the creation of a “GOP committee task force on the labor movement” that would pursue a “major assault” on unions. As one Republican lawmaker told Novak, GOP leaders champion an “anti-union attitude that appeals to the mentality of hillbillies at revival meetings.”

    The hostility, while disgusting, is unsurprising. Unions wield power for workers, meaning they present an obstacle to Republican corporate donors, who want to put profit-making over other societal priorities.

    Think the minimum wage just happened? Think employer-paid health care and pensions have been around for as long as they have by some force of magic? Think again — unions used collective bargaining to preserve these benefits. As the saying goes, union members are the folks that brought you the weekend.

    Happy labor day, bet-welsher. Why don’t you redeem yourself and send a f*cking $100 postal money order to Goldy for the bet you lost.

  187. 997

    Jim King spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 11:27 am

    @149- Roger Rabbit- Actually, for decades the unemployment figures have counted only those looking for and willing to work. Do you have any proof that the definitions have changed under Bush? I thought not…

    And the figures you present simply show that the economic downturn fueled by the Clinton dot.com bubble bursting- all those phony accounting schemes used during the ’90’s having failed to be sustainable- and exacerbated by 9/11 is finally coming to an end.

  188. 998

    Jim King spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 11:34 am

    @163- Wabbit, you are getting too silly here. FDR and LBJ created war-time jobs- in fact, the Great Depression was ended only by WWII. Clinton “created” jobs by allowing the dot.com bubble and phony accounting- and you blame Bush because those fake jobs disappeared.

    Democrat recipe for job growth- complete mobilization for war and phony accounting practices- and pay the piper later…

  189. 999

    Harry Tuttle spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 11:37 am

    137.

    It’s just you, dummy.

  190. 1000

    Harry Tuttle spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 11:39 am

    142. It’s just you dummy.

  191. 1001

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 11:46 am

    “union members are the folks that brought you the weekend.”

    Commentby For the Clueless [ Union members are the folks that brought you bankrupt companies, and “guvment” Democrat union hacks that act like parasites.]

  192. 1002

    Harry Tuttle spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 12:10 pm

    Failing business such as steel and auto, were bankrupted by Republican politicians.

    Had the vision of the New Deal and Great Society to provide a security net for citizens that would provide health care and reasonable pension benefits as part of government, the major costs that influenced failure in these industries would have been spread out over all taxpayers, as in Europe.

  193. 1003

    Jim King spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 12:33 pm

    And here I thought our auto industry was bankrupted by its lack of vision and desire to keep producing gas guzzlers well into th 1970’s; and neither American NOR European steel can compete with Asian steel. Of course, Democratic politicians deciding to upgrade- in fact, to build new, state of the art- steel mills for Europe might have had something to do with what happened to American steel in the interim…

  194. 1004

    Puddybud Ray Nagin Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 12:53 pm

    Sorry for the DeLay ATJ. I was pruning black berry bushes and our crop is gonna be large this year.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2002/08.....7BAMF.html

    “In the wake of the French intelligence report (see August 22, 2001) on Zacarias Moussaoui, FBI agents in Minnesota are “in a frenzy” and “absolutely convinced he [is] planning to do something with a plane.” One agent writes notes speculating Moussaoui might “fly something into the World Trade Center.” [Newsweek, 5/20/2002] Minnesota FBI agents become “desperate to search the computer lap top” and “conduct a more thorough search of his personal effects,” especially since Moussaoui acted as if he was hiding something important in the laptop when arrested. [Time, 5/21/2002; Time, 5/27/2002] They decide to apply for a search warrant under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA). “FISA allows the FBI to carry out wiretaps and searches that would otherwise be unconstitutional” because “the goal is to gather intelligence, not evidence.” [Washington Post, 11/4/2001] Standards to get a warrant through FISA are so low that out of 10,000 requests over more than 20 years, not a single one was turned down. Previously, when the FBI did not have a strong enough case, it allegedly simply lied to FISA. In May 2002, the FISA court complained that the FBI had lied in at least 75 warrant cases during the Clinton administration, once even by the FBI director. [New York Times, 8/27/2002] However, as FBI Agent Coleen Rowley later puts it, FBI headquarters “almost inexplicably, throw[s] up roadblocks” and undermines their efforts.”

  195. 1005

    Another TJ spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 1:08 pm

    So, the article you provided supports my position, and demonstrates that you screwed up. Thanks for the clarification.

    You’re dismissed… with prejudice.

  196. 1006

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 1:18 pm

    Failing business such as steel and auto, were bankrupted by Republican politicians.

    Commentby Harry Tuttle […………………..Funny how the “nonunion” steel and auto companies are doing quite well. Unions only are successful with “guvment” employees because they can blackmail the Democrat hack pols with votes.]

  197. 1007

    Daddy Love spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 1:26 pm

    Presidential Medal of Freedom recipient George Tenet called of the bin Laden “snatch.” He said that given the recommendation of his chief operations officers, he alone had decided to “turn off” the operation. He had simply informed Sandy Berger, who had not pushed back. Berger’s recollection was similar. He said the plan was never presented to the White House for a decision.

    The CIA’s senior management clearly did not think the plan would work. Tenet’s deputy director of operations wrote to Berger a few weeks later that the CIA assessed the tribals’ ability to capture Bin Laden and deliver him to U.S. officials as “low.”

  198. 1008

    Puddybud Ray Nagin Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 1:43 pm

    Ahhh ATJ there is more: “At Sept. 11 Trial, Tale Of Missteps And Management By Scott Shane and Neil Lewis, New York Times”

    “Recent interviews of intelligence officials by The New York Times suggest that the Bureau had a reason for growing cautious about applying to a secret national security court for special search warrants that might have supplied critical information.”

    “The F.B.I.,” officials told the Times, “had become wary after a well-regarded supervisor was disciplined because the [FISA] court complained that he had submitted improper information on applications.”

    The secret court went so far as to discipline Michael Resnick, the F.B.I. supervisor in charge of coordinating terrorist surveillance operations, saying they would no longer accept warrant applications from him. Intelligence officials told the Times that the FISA Court’s decision to reprimand Resnick, who had been a rising star in the FBI, “resulted in making the Bureau far less aggressive in seeking information on terrorists.”

    Gripping testimony came from Mr. Samit, who arrested Mr. Moussaoui on Aug. 16 and quickly became convinced that he was a terrorist who knew about an imminent hijacking plot. Mr. Samit said that he had sent about 70 warning messages about Mr. Moussaoui, but that they had produced no results.

    The agent said he had been puzzled at the reluctance of Michael Maltbie, a supervisor with the Radical Fundamentalist Unit at bureau headquarters, to seek a search warrant for Mr. Moussaoui’s belongings from a special intelligence court.

    Mr. Samit seemed unable to satisfy Mr. Maltbie’s demand that he provide a tangible link between Mr. Moussaoui and a foreign power, a requirement for a warrant from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court. He thought he had sufficient evidence from two French intelligence reports showing Mr. Moussaoui had recruited someone to fight in Chechnya for an Islamist group allied with Mr. bin Laden.

    You’re dismissed with Prejudice!

  199. 1009

    Puddybud Ray Nagin Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 1:46 pm

    More for you ATJ:

    “From the New York Times article linked to below:
    May 27, 2002
    F.B.I. Inaction Blurred Picture Before Sept. 11
    By NEIL A. LEWIS

    This article was reported by David Johnston, Neil A. Lewis and Don Van Natta Jr. and written by Mr. Lewis.

    WASHINGTON, May 26 — The day of Aug. 6, 2001, broke in the capital with the steamy torpor of deep summer. Congress was in recess, and President Bush, away on a working vacation at his Texas ranch, was out jogging before the temperature began its climb above 100 degrees. He later hacked brush in a sweltering gulch and fished for bass in a stocked pond. Maybe, later, his aides said, he would finish reading a biography of John Adams.

    But it was on that morning, not long after his four-mile run, that Mr. Bush sat down in his ranch house for his daily intelligence briefing. It was delivered not by his usual briefer, George J. Tenet, the director of central intelligence, but by a low-level C.I.A. officer. At some point, the briefer told Mr. Bush that Osama bin Laden‘s followers in Al Qaeda might hijack commercial jets in the United States — a dated fragment of information based on a single 1999 British intelligence report.

    What Mr. Bush was not told that morning, and what his C.I.A. briefer did not know, was that crucial pieces of Al Qaeda‘s intentions in the United States did exist elsewhere inside the nation‘s counterterrorism agencies.

    A re-examination of events before Sept. 11 clearly suggests that the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the agency most directly responsible for protecting against an attack on American soil, failed to assemble a coherent picture of the available danger signals. Nor did it fully communicate what it knew to the C.I.A. or other intelligence agencies.

    Interviews with more than a dozen current and former senior policy-makers and law enforcement and counterterrorism officials suggest that in the summer of 2001 the government‘s counterterrorism apparatus was too lumbering, too compartmentalized and too inattentive to grasp the emerging pattern. Also, perhaps, a bit unlucky.

    In addition, recent interviews of intelligence officials by The New York Times suggest that the bureau had a reason for growing cautious about applying to a secret national security court for special search warrants that might have supplied critical information. The F.B.I., the officials said, had become wary after a well-regarded supervisor was disciplined because the court complained that he had submitted improper information on applications.

    “It‘s too bad that someone had not connected the dots — they had the dots,” said a retired senior F.B.I. official, who would not speak on the record on such a sensitive subject.

    Beyond the apparent inability to detect any pattern, a question of willful negligence has been raised. In a memorandum that is the subject of Congressional scrutiny, an F.B.I. agent in Minneapolis argued last week that there was enough evidence in August to obtain the special search warrant for a computer and other belongings of Zacarias Moussaoui, a French-born flight student. The agent, Coleen Rowley, wrote to the F.B.I. director, Robert S. Mueller III, that a search could have yielded significant clues, if not warnings, about the Sept. 11 attacks.

    But Ms. Rowley, in anguished tones, wrote that officials at the bureau‘s headquarters repeatedly thwarted the efforts of agents in the field to investigate Mr. Moussaoui, a man who officials believe was meant to be the 20th hijacker.

    The issues “are fundamentally ones of INTEGRITY,” Ms. Rowley wrote, making her point in capitals.

    Ms. Rowley wrote that the evidence was so persuasive at the time that the bureau could not hide behind a “20-20 hindsight is perfect” argument. A bipartisan group of senators demanded this weekend that Mr. Mueller answer the issues raised in the Rowley memorandum.

    While Bush administration officials have said that no information was available that could have thwarted the attacks, Mr. Mueller has acknowledged that the bureau paid insufficient attention to the signals. In response to an outpouring of criticism in Congress — and from his own agent ranks — Mr. Mueller has promised to build up the bureau‘s analytical ability.

    His plans have not deterred Democrats in Congress who have proposed an independent commission to investigate the attacks even as the chairmen of Congressional intelligence committees have announced hearings on them for June.

    John L. Martin, a former senior Justice Department official who spent a career involved in national security, said he believed that the administration should welcome, not resist, a review of its performance.

    “When you see a bad play on a football field, you know it,” Mr. Martin said. “And you know the coach has to review it to make it right for the next time.”

    Mr. Bush and his closest advisers never got the information that on July 10 an F.B.I. agent in Phoenix had warned in a memorandum that Mr. bin Laden might be sending operatives to American flight schools to prepare for terrorist operations. Mr. Bush did not learn of the memorandum until long after the attacks.

    “They had the concept that this could happen. This guy in Phoenix added some detail, and then you had the Moussaoui case,” said the retired senior F.B.I. official. “It was all there for someone to piece together. That‘s their job.”

    On Aug. 16, an instructor at a Minneapolis flight school called the F.B.I. to report his suspicions about Mr. Moussaoui. The next day, Mr. Moussaoui was arrested on immigration charges. Two days later, F.B.I. agents in Minnesota asked Washington to obtain a special warrant to search his laptop computer, but the request was repeatedly resisted by F.B.I. headquarters.

    Other signs came and went, seemingly without being fitted into the growing file on Al Qaeda. For example, in the summer of 2001, Mr. Bush‘s national security team was told about the extensive F.B.I. debriefings of Ahmed Ressam, an Algerian arrested in December 1999 at the Canadian border by a Customs Service agent in what became known as the millennium bombing plot. Mr. Ressam provided a firsthand account of his training in Afghanistan and his plan to detonate a bomb at Los Angeles International Airport.

    “Ressam gave us a template for an Al Qaeda operation in the United States,” a senior law enforcement official said. “But because it was prevented, because the bomb didn‘t go off, it didn‘t set off the alarms like it should have.”

    The F.B.I. clearinghouse for Al Qaeda intelligence was the bin Laden and radical fundamentalist units in its counterterrorism division. The units had complete access to the Phoenix memorandum, the Moussaoui case and the Ressam debriefings. But the agents assigned to these units did not understand the broader meaning of the signs, senior law enforcement officials acknowledge.

    “No one was looking at any overall picture,” one of the former officials said. “It‘s hard, scruffy, dirty work to do these analytical things. You get a lot of criticism within the bureaucracy if you send up a paper that someone feels won‘t carry the day.”

    The bureau‘s reluctance to press new applications for national security search warrants stemmed, some officials believe, from an incident late in the Clinton administration.

    In the fall of 2000, the seven judges on the secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court in Washington summoned Attorney General Janet Reno to their secure courtroom. The judges, in a letter signed by Chief Judge Royce C. Lamberth, had complained to her of a serious breach. Misleading affidavits had been submitted to the court, which approves warrants to eavesdrop on people suspected of being foreign agents or international terrorists. At the meeting, Ms. Reno agreed that the problem was serious, the officials said.

    All of the flawed affidavits had been submitted by Michael Resnick, the F.B.I. supervisor in charge of coordinating the surveillance operations related to Hamas, the militant Palestinian group. The judges said they would no longer accept applications from Mr. Resnick.

    In response, the F.B.I. director at the time, Louis J. Freeh, ordered a broader review of the eavesdropping applications — including those related to Al Qaeda. That review, the officials said, turned up disturbing signs that Al Qaeda applications were also flawed.

    For Mr. Resnick, who had been a rising star in the bureau, the complaint from the judges and especially their refusal to have him appear before them again was a blow to his career that angered some of his colleagues. Ms. Reno turned over the complaint to the department‘s Office of Professional Responsibility, which is still investigating Mr. Resnick.

    Intelligence officials said the event resulted in making the bureau far less aggressive in seeking information on terrorists. Other officials said the Resnick case prompted bureau officials to adopt a play-it-safe approach that meant submitting fewer applications and declining to submit any that could be questioned.

    Several former and current officials said the F.B.I. legal counsel‘s office may have been correct, based on what was known at the time, in deciding not to apply for a warrant to search Mr. Moussaoui‘s computer. The office was not given any evidence that Mr. Moussaoui was acting on behalf of a foreign power, a requirement of the law. But the officials said it appeared that the bureau had not stirred itself to fill that gap.

    Ms. Rowley complained in emphatic language in her memorandum that an official at headquarters was determined to thwart the field office‘s efforts to obtain a surveillance warrant from the court to examine Mr. Moussaoui‘s computer. She charged that the supervisory agent, to make the application not viable, had played down information obtained from French intelligence sources about Mr. Moussaoui‘s links to foreign terrorist organizations.

    Excerpts from the text of the memorandum that were posted on the Time Web site this weekend show Ms. Rowley pleading with Mr. Mueller to be careful not to continue to say that the bureau did not have any information that could have helped prevent the Sept. 11 attacks.

    She said that the headquarters supervisory agent had perceived that pressing the application for the warrant was an unnecessary career risk. Although she did not name the official, Senators Patrick J. Leahy of Vermont, Charles E. Grassley of Iowa and Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania have identified David Frasca, who was in the unit that was assigned to monitor Islamic radical terrorists, as responsible.

    A spokesman said the F.B.I. would not comment on Mr. Frasca‘s role or on Ms. Rowley‘s memorandum.

    “I have deep concerns that a delicate and subtle shading/skewing of facts by you and others at the highest levels of F.B.I. management has occurred and is occurring,” Ms. Rowley wrote. “The term `cover-up‘ would be too strong a characterization, which is why I am attempting to carefully (and perhaps overlaboriously) choose my words here.”

    She added that she believed certain facts “have up to now, been omitted, downplayed, glossed over and/or mischaracterized in an effort to avoid or minimize personal and/or institutional embarrassment on the part of the F.B.I. and/or perhaps even for improper political reasons.”

    The issue was whether the information from the French security services identified Mr. Moussaoui as someone with radical Islamic ideas, as headquarters officials contended, or described links to specific groups, as the Minnesota office believed.

    “That would have been the clincher,” said one senior government official familiar with the intelligence court. “The mention of groups would have gotten the bureau the warrant that Minneapolis wanted.”

    Ms. Rowley also wrote that the supervisor threw up roadblocks to a search warrant in the Moussaoui case even after Sept. 11. as a defensive reaction to how his earlier unwillingness would now appear.”

    A requirement by law is the tie-in I was referring to by the FISA court referenced above.

    Twist in the wind all you want ATJ!

  200. 1010

    Another TJ spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 1:48 pm

    You claimed the FISA court rejected the warrant application. You were wrong, and with each successive post, you reinforce that. Thanks a bunch. Buh-bye.

  201. 1011

    Puddybud Ray Nagin Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 1:52 pm

    And everyone the discouragement of the FISA court and the requirement for a link to a foreign power is from above:

    “In May 2002, the FISA court complained that the FBI had lied in at least 75 warrant cases during the Clinton administration, once even by the FBI director. [New York Times, 8/27/2002]”

    Who da thunk Clinton law enforcement peeps lying for FISA warrants.

    Why did you skip over this ATJ?

  202. 1012

    Puddybud Ray Nagin Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 1:55 pm

    More the prejudiced ATJ:

    http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0316/lee2.php

    The lower FISA court had earlier refused to permit the lower standard, because the FBI had admitted to misrepresenting information in FISA cases 75 times.

  203. 1013

    sgmmac spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 2:19 pm

    Damn Roger,

    I will be in Vegas for a week around Sep 19. My Dad lives there, so I am flying home for a short break! Check out the Mexican Restaurant in the Palms, they have great food.

  204. 1014

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 2:36 pm

    214

    I only want the lettuce and carrots. YUMMY!!! I LOVE carrots!!! :D :D :D

  205. 1015

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 2:38 pm

    210

    Uh … pudwhacker … that looks like more than an EXCERPT which takes you outside the Fair Use doctrine and into the realm of copyright infringement … what do you guys think, should we turn him in?

  206. 1016

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 2:42 pm

    175

    “Ahhh yes I do pack a big pud!” Commentby Puddybud Ray Nagin Kennedy— 9/4/06@ 10:39 am

    Find a good medical site and search for articles on “skin tags.”

  207. 1017

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 2:43 pm

    179

    You should be worrying about your own content problems.

  208. 1018

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 2:47 pm

    192

    “Poor people CHOOSE to be poor by CHOOSING not to learn marketable skills. The door is open to them anytime, but they CHOOSE not to take it. They get what they deserve.” Commentby Mark The Redneck KENNEDY— 9/4/06@ 11:09 am

    Yeah right, Gasbag — poor people CHOOSE not to go to Hah-vahd and other colleges charging $40,000 a year tuition; meanwhile, Republicans in congress gaily hack away at Pell grants and other student financial aid so they can give more tax breaks to billionaires.

  209. 1019

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 2:50 pm

    “Cheap-labor conservatives constantly bray about ‘morality’, ‘virtue’, ‘respect for authority’, ‘hard work’ and other ‘values’. Why. So they can blame your being ‘over a barrel’ on your own ‘immorality’, lack of ‘values’ and ‘poor choices’.” http://tinyurl.com/lnzs3

    Hmmm … does that sound like anyone we know?

  210. 1020

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 2:51 pm

    Speaking of “poor choices,” Gasbag married a dead crack whore.

    (pause)

    F I V E H U N D R E D T H O U S A N D D O L L A R S

    $500,000.000

    (pause)

    (snicker)

    HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR

  211. 1021

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 2:52 pm

    222, Marxist class warfare. Typical Democrat whining.

  212. 1022

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 2:57 pm

    196

    It’s you who’s being silly, Jim Wingnut. Let’s try something.

    ROGER RABBIT POLL

    Which political party looks out for the working man (and woman)?

    [ ] 1. Democrats
    [ ] 2. Democrats
    [ ] 3. Democrats
    [ ] 4. All of the above

    Don’t like the choices? Sorry, there are no other contenders. Like the Model T Ford, pro-labor political parties come in only one style and color: Democrat.

  213. 1023

    Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 3:24 pm

    Rabbit 222 – Harvard charges helluva lot more than 40k, not that you would know…

    But if a person wants to get a university eduction, they can attend taxpayer subsidized universities where they only have to pick up 20% of the true cost. Is that too much to ask?

  214. 1024

    Puddybud Big Pud Ray Nagin spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 4:06 pm

    Yes, cheap labor donk at it before Bush came along.

    http://www.counterpunch.org/food.html

  215. 1025

    Puddybud Big One Ray Nagin spews:

    Monday, 9/4/06 at 5:07 pm

    Daddl Love: Navigate over to the Mike? thread for an answer.

    Kind Regards,

    Pudster

“The David Goldstein Show” tonight on Newsradio 710-KIRO

by Goldy — Sunday, 8/27/06, 2:19 pm

It’s the last Sunday in August, so what better way to bid farewell to our region’s short summer than to come inside, turn up the radio and tune in to “The David Goldstein Show tonight on Newsradio 710-KIRO, from 7PM to 10PM. Of course, the lineup could change in response to breaking news, but here’s what I think I’ll be talking about tonight:

7PM: In an Oprah moment, Republican US Senate wannabe Mike!™ McGavick revealed that some thirteen years ago he was pulled over for a DUI with a literally staggering 0.17 percent blood-alcohol level. Was this revelation a shrewd political move to inoculate the candidate from negative attacks, a gesture of genuine contrition, or a boneheaded blunder? Seattle Times political reporter/blogger David Postman joins me to discuss this and other political issues of the day.

8PM: King County Council Chair Larry Phillips joins me to discuss the prospects of a proposed county charter amendment that seeks to take the politics out of the elections office by making the county auditor an, um, elected position. Go figure. But if you have other questions for the Council Chair, here’s your chance to ask him.

9PM: The first hurricane of the season has formed in the South Atlantic, just in time to commemorate the first anniversary of the natural and political disaster that was Hurricane Katrina. How did the federal government’s failed response to this long anticipated emergency change your view of the Bush administration, and do you believe our nation is ready to respond to another major disaster or terrorist attack?

Tune in tonight (or listen to the live stream) and give me a call: 1-877-710-KIRO (5476).

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  1. 1026

    puddybud spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 2:35 pm

    Why not instead of Mike! mudslinging, open your show with a few condolence moments for the 49 people who died in Kentucky this morning. Talk about how compaaaaaaaassionate you libruls are. Speak to the symmmmmmmmmmmmmmpathy you have to the surviving relatives.

    Oh that’s right you’re a leftwing idiot!

  2. 1027

    Mark The Redneck spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 2:37 pm


    Day 6 August 27, 2006 Where’s Goldy?

    Mayor Nickels’
    unprecedented tax increase proposal
    and
    Tim Eyman’s opposition campaign
    not only screws the taxpayers into paying extra for basic services, but it also really puts Goldy and the rest of you seattle moonbats in a helluva predicament. I’ve been taunting Goldy for some time now with my “Where’s Goldy” series, and he still won’t tell us where he stands. No doubt, he’s between a rock and a hard place trying to figure out what to do. So as a true compassionate conservative, I’ll lay out the options here for ya Goldy:

    1) Open up your wallet and pay more and more property tax every year until you are forced out of your home. Even if you can do it, do you want to make seattle a place where only the rich can live? Or do you not give a fuck about anybody else?

    2) Join Eyman’s campaign to fight defeat the tax increase, and expose yourself to be the fucking hypocrite that you are. Admit that you are wrong about taxpayer rights, and thank Tim in pubic for giving you the right to vote on major policy issues.

    3) Support the tax hike and agree that the tax money has to be raised, but make somebody other than you pay. You could take the tried and true class envy approach and make those “rich people” in Magnolia and Queen Ann pick up the tab. Remember, a “fair tax” in moonbat parlance is a tax that the other guy has to pay.

    4) Or just keep quiet and hope I go away. That’s not gonna happen.

  3. 1028

    Mark The Redneck spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 2:38 pm

    Tax Cuts and Fed Revenue

    Roger Rabbit is full of shit when he denies the link between cutting tax rates and subsequent increases in federal revenue.
    http://www.treas.gov/press/rel.....growth.jpg
    http://www.heritage.org/resear.....s_R/R1.cfm

  4. 1029

    Mark The Redneck spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 2:40 pm

    Hey, if your gawd Algore is right about global warming, shouldn’t we have a half dozen major storms like Katrina already? Shit, there haven’t been any yet.

    Could it be…. could it be that global warming is bullshit?

  5. 1030

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 2:49 pm

    Hey mark the buttneck:(AKA) SHITHEAD.

    Sit down and shut the fuck up all ready

  6. 1031

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 2:49 pm

    Hey Goldy — how about putting in a plug for the “Save Redneck Fund”? We’re gonna send Redneck to a California Jesus camp, where counselors will instill Christian values into his worthless ass.

  7. 1032

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 2:52 pm

    DAY TWO HUNDRED AND SIX

    Where’s the $100 you owe Goldy?

  8. 1033

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 2:56 pm

    I think we should deport all the christofastist to the holly land were they belong and then they can slug it out with the rest of the religious nuts. :-/

  9. 1034

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 2:57 pm

    Redneck sez:

    “Mayor Nickels’ unprecedented tax increase proposal … really puts Goldy and the rest of you seattle moonbats in a helluva predicament.”

    Reality check:

    1. I’ve already said I oppose Mayor Nickels’ road maintenance tax, because I don’t see why he needs $1.8 billion to pay for a $500 million backlog of road and bridge maintenance.

    2. The Seattle Times editorial that Redneck linked to says, “All six liberal Democrats running in the heated 43rd Legislative District in Seattle told The Times’ Editorial Board they oppose the mayor’s $1.6 billion roads improvement levy on property taxes.” Apparently Redneck doesn’t read the articles he links to.

    3. I don’t recall Goldy or anybody else on this board endorsing Nickels’ tax package.

    So what’s the “predicament?” That we agree on something? That’s a hell of a predicament you’re in, Redneck! How about paying the $100 you owe Goldy. I’m glad you’re against Nickels’ tax, the more the merrier! While you’re at it, pay the $100 you owe Goldy!

    Redneck, now that I’ve got you on board against Nickels’ sneaky dishonest tax ripoff, what will it take to bring you around on minimum wage? Pay the $100 you owe Goldy. What will it take to you on board against the GOP’s sneaky dishonest minimum wage ripoff? P.S., pay the $100 you owe Goldy. How about if we take up a collection to send you to a Jesus camp? No, I don’t mean the one run by that crazy woman in North Dakota who trains kids to be jihadists; I’m thinking of one of those places in California where you sing “Kumbaya” while the camp counselors help you overcome your sociopathic urges and get you right with the Lord. While you’re there, pay the $100 you owe Goldy.

  10. 1035

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 2:59 pm

    Hey Goldy – how about putting in a plug for the “Save Redneck Fund”? We’re gonna send Redneck to a California Jesus camp, where counselors will instill Christian values into his worthless ass.

    With a very LARGE statue of Jesus no doubt :-/

  11. 1036

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 3:10 pm

    Does anyone here really think the bigoted, racist, homophobic, patriartical American people are going to anytime soon really elect a woman president?

    The answer is not only no BUT HELL NO !!!!!

    So now that we have all had a reality check can we please stop taking about Hillery or god forbid Condo Rice as a presidential candidates in 08 or an other year please

    Thank this has been a message from the reality based community …………

  12. 1037

    LeftTurn spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 3:13 pm

    It’s important to note that today’s plane crash happened in a right wing republican state where the wingers cry and moan about taxes to support services like up to date airports so the blood of the 49 victims in today’s crash lies squarely on the shoulders of Puddybutt’s friends in the GOP.

  13. 1038

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 3:16 pm

    mark the buttfuck doesn’t have much to do today. Work must be slow at the “Producer Factory.” Let’s go over this tax thing again, as he doesn’t seem to understand it.

    When the tax rate is 100%, revenues are zero, because there’s no economic activity. When the tax rate is zero, revenues also are zero, regardless of how much economic activity there is. Obviously, there is a point somewhere between a 0% tax rate and a 100% tax rate where revenues are maximized.

    If the tax rate is below this point, you lose revenue and will lose even more revenue by cutting taxes. If the tax rate is above this point, cutting taxes will increase revenue.

    Now let’s look at the recent numbers.

    2000 – $1,372,376,000,000 (baseline year)
    2001 – $1,297,063,000,000
    2002 – $1,152,413,000,000
    2003 – $1,069,364,000,000
    2004 – $1,146,664,000,000
    2005 – $1,279,114,000,000 (estimate)

    (Date from official sources)

    As you can see, Bush’s tax cutting resulted in decreased revenues in 2001, 2002, and 2003. Although revenue began growing in 2004, it still is not back to the 2001 level, let alone the pre-tax cut 2000 level. Thus, in all 5 years since Bush cut taxes, revenue has been less than what it was before he cut taxes.

    But there’s more. Virtually all of the revenue increase in 2004 and 2005 resulted from higher taxes paid by corporations (which are making record profits) and CEOs (who are making unprecedented salaries and bonuses). Although the economy as a whole is growing, none of that growth is trickling down to workers, who have made no wage gains at all, in real terms, under Bush. Nor has the economy made real job gains, as the economy is not creating enough jobs in most months to even keep up with workforce growth, which means the number of unemployed workers continues to grow.

    But wait, there’s still more! The higher corporate and CEO incomes that produced the tax collections responsible for all of the revenue growth in 2004 and 2005 are due in no small part to the artificial economic stimulus of deficit spending. Under Bush, federal spending has grown more than 3 times as fast as it did under Clinton — and all that spending growth is being put on a credit card we’ll eventually have to pay. Take away the deficit spending, and you’ve got no economic growth, and no revenue growth.

    It’s one thing to cut taxes by cutting spending. It’s another thing to finance tax cuts by borrowing. Government borrowing drives up interest rates, resulting in higher government debt service payments that may more than offset any increased revenues resulting from the artificial stimulus of deficit spending. And government borrowing competes with the private sector for savings and capital, reducing private sector investment and, consequently, hindering economic growth — which, in turn, adversely impacts tax collections based on corporate and personal income. (When incomes are falling, so are tax revenues.) See how this vicious circle works?

    So, there’s more to this story than the raw numbers. Not only have Bush’s tax cuts resulted in falling revenue, but his deficit spending policies are producing the worst kind of revenue growth, namely, temporary revenue growth that we will pay for with future high interest rates, high unemployment, and high inflation.

  14. 1039

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 3:17 pm

    19

    They don’t like regulation of private businesses like airlines, either. And they’re big supporters of busting the airline unions and hiring gang members to load baggage and maintain airplanes.

  15. 1040

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 3:20 pm

    I still want to tax Doctor JCH Kennedy (aka) buttnutz at 200%

  16. 1041

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 3:24 pm

    Ernesto Hits Haiti With Storms

    What the hell kind of name is that? What are we naming storms hermophidite names now in honor of ann coulter or what?

  17. 1042

    Richard Pope spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 3:25 pm

    Mike McGavick has a page on MySpace.Com, which includes this candid admission:

    “Right now I am currently running for the United States Senate. I left Safeco back in January to focus on the campaign.”

    http://www.myspace.com/mikemcgavick

  18. 1043

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 3:26 pm

    Iran Test-Fires Missile
    spacer
    Sub-to-surface rocket is fired into the Persian Gulf during military exercises, state-run TV reports.

    so when are we going to start calling fox news state-run TV?

  19. 1044

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 3:29 pm

    Check out McGavick’s personal page on MySpace.com: http://www.myspace.com/mikemcgavick … is he trolling for underage girls? I’m not saying he is; just wondering.

  20. 1045

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 3:29 pm

    Mike McGavick has a page on MySpace.Com

    that is so creepy…… But I guess he needs to talk to his constituents in the pedophile community……

  21. 1046

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 3:34 pm

    it looks like we have a nasty bot infestation :-/

  22. 1047

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 3:34 pm

    8

    “Hey, if your gawd Algore is right about global warming, shouldn’t we have a half dozen major storms like Katrina already? Shit, there haven’t been any yet.” Commentby Mark The Redneck— 8/27/06@ 2:40 pm

    No, but there’s been a crash at a scab airline.

    “On September 14, 2005, Comair’s parent company Delta Air Lines, filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy, forcing Comair into bankruptcy along with it. On October 13, 2005, Comair announced that would cut costs by $70 million annually. These savings are to be achieved by aircraft, flight, and employee reductions.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comair

    Update: Investigators say the black box confirms the plane took off from the wrong runway.

  23. 1048

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 3:41 pm

    That aircraft needs a takeoff roll of 4,500 to 5,000 feet, and was attempting to take off from an old, unused, 3,500 foot runway. The plane ran out of runway before getting airborne and crashed about a mile away. The fuselage was intact but engulfed by fire when rescuers arrived. The copilot was rescued but is in critical condition.

  24. 1049

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 3:42 pm

    Clear-cut case of pilot error.

  25. 1050

    For the Clueless spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 3:42 pm

    Goldy,

    Damn it! Put up some spam filtering. There’s good software out there for WordPress!

  26. 1051

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 3:44 pm

    thats becoase of global warming?

  27. 1052

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 3:51 pm

    I bet this spam thing is an evil carl rove nasty trick to shut down horses ass blog

  28. 1053

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 3:56 pm

    thats becoase of global warming?

    Commentby The Socialist— [………………………………………………No, but your spelling is because of Democrats and the NEA.]

  29. 1054

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 4:00 pm

    44

    There appears to be a human behind it. I don’t think it’s bot spam. Watch this:

    Hey you motherfucking fascist — if you want to advertise on this web site then buy advertising space, you unpatriotic America-hating penny-pinching F R E E L O A D E R ! ! !

  30. 1055

    My Left Foot spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 4:06 pm

    The spam is probably our WingNut friends thinking they are funny and cute.

    Just like a Wingnut to mention a tragedy and blame it on Democrats. How do they do that? Oh, wait, they don’t have any reasoning ability. My bad.

    ’nuff said. (oops. Sorry Pussypud, it just slips out and my delete key is broken).

    Carl Grossman
    Liberal, Democrat and my condolences to the familys and victims of the Comair tragedy.

  31. 1056

    Mrs Left Foot spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 4:09 pm

    I usually like to remain above the fray. However, after reading over my husbands shoulder I feel the need to comment here.

    The only piece of ass (I hate that term) that Mark the Redneck or John Craig get is when their fingers slip through the toilet paper while wiping. I can tell you that no member of the female population would every touch one of these losers. Even the hookers are “busy” when they call.

  32. 1057

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 4:10 pm

    Doctor JCH Kennedy I miss spell things on purpose just to piss you off your know that right?

  33. 1058

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 4:13 pm

    51

    rofl that was a good one

  34. 1059

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 4:14 pm

    47, 49, 50

    See what I mean? I can provoke the spammer. You can’t provoke a computer.

  35. 1060

    Mrs Left Foot spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 4:15 pm

    Take heart Socialist. Here is a quote to ease your mind and scare John Craig.

    “It is a damn poor mind indeed which can’t think of at least two ways to spell any word.” Andrew Jackson.

  36. 1061

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 4:18 pm

    WHY DOES REDNECK HATE WOMEN?

    Simple. A woman outsmarted him and made off with

    F I V E H U N D R E D T H O U S A N D D O L L A R S

    $500,000.000

    (I like to mention this to rub his face in it)

    Of course, besting Retardo isn’t hard; even a 12 1/4-lb. rodent can do it! I do it every day. But Retardo went out of his way to get taken by marrying a dead crack whore. I don’t understand this necrophilia stuff. If he insists on fucking a crack whore, you’d expect him to fuck a live one, at least. Maybe he prefers them dead so there’s no back-talk. Maybe he got that idea from Gary Ridgway. Maybe he IS Gary Ridgway. Do they have computers in Walla2? Are lifers allowed to blog? Just wondering.

  37. 1062

    Mrs Left Foot spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 4:21 pm

    Rabbit,

    Shame on you. Gary is way smarter than Red dick fucker.

  38. 1063

    My Left Foot spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 4:24 pm

    Comment #60 was mine. Mrs Left Foot does not use language like that. (usually. I have pissed her off a couple of times. Funny how she looks that much hotter to me when does talk like that).

  39. 1064

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 5:02 pm

    Anyone who thinks the Bush administration should be trusted to conduct surveillance of “suspected terrorists” without judicial oversight should read this story.

    Synopsis: Environmental activist attends public hearing by Army Corps of Engineers on fish movement around a dam. Corps presenters offer various options, including blowing up the dam (complete with graphic of a dam being dynamited). Activist suggests, instead of building a fish channel around the dam, why not remove it? Next thing he knows, he’s being investigated by the FBI as a potential terrorist plotting to — you guessed it — blow up the dam.

    From today’s Seattle Times:

    “Idea to remove dam triggers probe by FBI
    “By JIM SUHR
    “The Associated Press

    “ST. LOUIS — Jim Bensman thought his suggestion during a public hearing was harmless enough: Instead of building a channel so migratory fish could go around a dam on the Mississippi River, just get rid of the dam. Instead, the environmental activist found himself in hot water, drawing FBI scrutiny to see whether he had any terrorist intentions. “The case ‘shows just how easy it is to be labeled a suspected terrorist,’ he said.

    “It started July 25 in Alton, Ill., when the Army Corps of Engineers invited public discussion about options for improving fish movement at the nearby Melvin Price Locks and Dam, considered a major impediment to roughly 36 species that migrate upstream. During the 90-minute hearing …, Bensman … contended that dams are environmentally destructive and amount to … corporate welfare for boating interests. He urged that the dam be removed. He … never mentioned blowing up the dam, though the corps’ presentation of possible options included a picture of a dam being dynamited. …

    “Within days, the FBI had Bensman on the phone, asking whether he was a threat. ;To think I’m a terrorist is utterly ridiculous,; Bensman, 46, said from his home in Alton, south of St. Louis. ;How could any reasonable person think a terrorist is going to come to a public meeting held by the army corps, let them know who they are and announce their terror plot? It just doesn’t make sense to me.’

    “‘I don’t want to dispute anything with Jim at this point,’ (Corps spokesman Alan) Dooley said. ‘We’re not going to debate whether this is oversensitivity or undersensitivity.’

    “Marshall Stone, a supervisory special agent with the FBI office in Springfield, Ill., acknowledged the corps had asked his agency to review Bensman’s remarks.

    “Bensman is affiliated with the Sierra Club and the forest-protection group Heartwood, and his environmental activism is well known around the Midwest. He has railed against logging and gone to bat for bats, woodpeckers and, lately, migratory fish in the Mississippi. ‘They all know me, and I’m a thorn in their side,’ Bensman said of the Corps of Engineers.”

    Excerpts from this article are quoted here under the Fair Use Doctrine; for complete story and/or copyright info, see http://tinyurl.com/epesq

    Roger Rabbit comment: Somebody needs to remind those Corps of Engineers assholes who they work for, and where their paychecks come from.

  40. 1065

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 5:05 pm

    May we never forget:

    Exclusive.

    Was the Jew killer a conservative or liberal. In the Seattle Times we have the following quote:

    Haq’s friend said he couldn’t believe the timid, “geeky” man he knew from the tutoring center was capable of such violence.

    “Are you sure we’re talking about the same person?” he said Sunday………….

    He said Haq was not a devout Muslim and often complained that the Tri-Cities were too politically conservative.

    “I’m beginning to think I was his only friend in the Tri-Cities. I don’t recall him hanging out with anybody else.”

    Now for the other side we turn to Darryl’s story on HA July 30, 2006:

    Psssssssssstttttttt…….

    Ah it looks like the story was all a bunch of hot air. Well there you have it. Enjoy all you Nazi Libs.

  41. 1066

    My Left Foot spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 5:07 pm

    There is that damn echo again. This time time it is Rufus.

    We get it Rufus. You have lost your mind and keep repeating the same thing over and over again. They have medication for that. For the love of God, man, take it.

  42. 1067

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 5:12 pm

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....re27m.html

    Hmmm. Democrats letting other democrats get away with child rape. Well nothing new here.

  43. 1068

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 5:15 pm

    There is that damn echo again. This time time it is Rufus.

    We get it Rufus. You have lost your mind and keep repeating the same thing over and over again. They have medication for that. For the love of God, man, take it.

    Commentby My Left Foot— 8/27/06@ 5:07 pm

    Yeah the truth can get to ya. Liberalism is the medicine you want to take if the truth hurts to much.

  44. 1069

    Michael spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 5:32 pm

    Wabbit, do you think it is unreasonable to take a second look at someone who advocates blowing up damns?

  45. 1070

    John Barelli spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 5:46 pm

    “I don’t belong to an organized political party. I’m a Democrat.” – Will Rogers.

    Katherine Harris is campaigning as the “Christian” candidate now. Funny, I thought she was the Republican in that race. I also note that Bill Nelson (the incumbent and her opponent) lists his religion as “Protestant”. Hmmm. Last I checked, that also qualifies as “Christian”.

    People talk about bringing Christian values to their office. When they mean honesty, charity, mercy, and fair dealing with all, then this is a good thing.

    When they mean using the force of government to demand that people live their lives in accordance with their own interpretation of the Bible, then we have a problem. I’ve also noted that many of these folks seem to read their Bibles rather selectively. I’ve read mine from cover to cover, and can’t find anything that allows selective enforcement of laws, cheating on vote counts and treating large companies and wealthy individuals better than the poor or powerless.

    Additionally, the whole idea of being able to repent and have sins forgiven does not mean that you can go through life hurting people and then just say “oops, sorry” at the moment before you die. It requires real repentance, and one of the concepts in Christianity is that God really knows whether or not you’re sincere. The old “Bart Simpson” routine of “nobody saw me do it, you can’t prove it” doesn’t work.

    Of course, there’s always the possibility that the person talking about “Christian values” really doesn’t believe a word of it, but is just making the noises needed to get elected.

    “Not everyone who says to me ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'” Matthew 7:22-23

  46. 1071

    John Barelli spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 6:00 pm

    There is a certain something to be said about requiring people to sign in and supply a valid e-mail address before posting.

    Of course, some of the trolls might not want anyone to find out that they’re posting from the computer in the recreation room at the “Home for the Perpetually Bewildered”.

  47. 1072

    Another TJ spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 6:06 pm

    Wabbit, do you think it is unreasonable to take a second look at someone who advocates blowing up damns?

    You mean the Army Corps of Engineers? Are they a terrorist organization?

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....00370.html

    …the corps’ presentation of possible options included a picture of a dam being dynamited.

  48. 1073

    americafirst spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 7:18 pm

    “The Socialist” is probably a Roger Rodent alias:
    compare this;

    “I think we should deport all the christofastist to the holly land were they belong and then they can slug it out with the rest of the religious nuts. :-/”
    Commentby The Socialist—— 8/27/06@ 2:56 pm
    ‘‘Hey Goldy –– how about putting in a plug for the ““Save Redneck Fund”? We’’re gonna send Redneck to a California Jesus camp, where counselors will instill Christian values into his worthless ass.’
    With a very LARGE statue of Jesus no doubt :-/”
    Commentby The Socialist—— 8/27/06@ 2:59 pm

    with this;

    “How about putting him and all his Republican buddies in a shipping container and sending them to Jesusland. We don’t need his ilk around here.”
    Comment by Roger Rabbit —— 10/27/05 @ 9:38 am

    “Lincoln made a mistake fighting the Civil War to keep the union together. He should have let these fucks keep Jesusland and live in their own fucking country.”
    Commentby Roger Rabbit———— 6/19/06@ 9:58 pm

  49. 1074

    Mark The Redneck spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 7:27 pm

    Shit, it looks like Ernesto isn’t going to amount to much. The dramatic backdrop you guys were looking for just isn’t gonna happen. Dang…

    Looks like your gawd Algore kinda stepped on his dick when he predicted a season of “unprecedented killer hurricanes”.

    Could it be that global warming is bullshit?

  50. 1075

    Mark The Redneck spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 7:28 pm

    MurkaFirst – I noticed a pattern too. There are more examples. You’re right…

  51. 1076

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 7:48 pm

    American democrats are the lazy socialists who did not make it to Canada after the revolution. They are second or third worlders living in the greatest country on God’s green earth.

  52. 1077

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 7:49 pm

    the republicans only have to types of character psychopathic and sociopathic.

  53. 1078

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 7:54 pm

    Democratic party is the revolutionary party you boob. the republican party was the old wig party which was the loyalist party that would have supported king george . Just like you are doing today butt breath.

  54. 1079

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 7:56 pm

    I usually like to remain above the fray. However, after reading over my husbands shoulder I feel the need to comment here.

    The only piece of ass (I hate that term) that Mark the Redneck or John Craig get is when their fingers slip through the toilet paper while wiping. I can tell you that no member of the female population would every touch one of these losers. Even the hookers are “busy” when they call.

    Commentby Mrs Left Foot […….Dear Mrs. Carl Grossman, Does “Tookie” Williams still give you 9 inches of “Democrat retal Tookie love”? Does Mr. Grossman “get off” watching? Can I purchase the “You Tube” video? Just “axing”???]

    […..Gee, what a surprise!! The Jewish wife is back from shopping and “needs to make a comment”. Classic, Mrs. Grossmanstein. After Carl drops from high blood pressure, I can see you with blue hair in a condo in Miami. Typical!!]

  55. 1080

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 7:58 pm

    Mrs. Grossmanstein, BTW, Do you like train rides???

  56. 1081

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 8:05 pm

    69

    “Was the Jew killer a conservative or liberal.”

    He was a fundie wingnut.

  57. 1082

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 8:05 pm

    The founders of this country were liberal’s you colossal ass. That is why they made this a secular nation free from any national religion were people are free to worship any religion they want or not any at all.

    And as far as I am concerned the Christofastist are the most dangerous thing in the world today that could bring down this country and there well on there way to doing it .

    That’s ok though because un like 1930 this time we will have a total Socialist Revolution and put in prison all the Cristofashist Capitalist Pigs to pay for there crimes against the people of the world .

  58. 1083

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 8:09 pm

    Doctor JCH Kennedy (aka) buttnutz I think I am for raising your tax to 300% now

  59. 1084

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 8:10 pm

    73

    “Liberalism is the medicine you want to take if the truth hurts to much.” Commentby RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy— 8/27/06@ 5:15 pm

    Dufus, I’m glad you brought up the subject. Let’s take a look at what liberalism has done for the American people.

    “A Day in the Life of Joe Middle-Class Republican
    “By John Gray Cincinnati, Ohio

    “Joe gets up at 6:00am to prepare his morning coffee. He fills his pot full of good clean drinking water because some liberal fought for minimum water quality standards. He takes his daily medication with his first swallow of coffee. His medications are safe to take because some liberal fought to insure their safety and work as advertised.

    “All but $10.00 of his medications are paid for by his employers medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance, now Joe gets it too. He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs this day. Joe’s bacon is safe to eat because some liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.

    “Joe takes his morning shower reaching for his shampoo; his bottle is properly labeled with every ingredient and the amount of its contents because some liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained. Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some tree hugging liberal fought for laws to stop industries from polluting our air. He walks to the subway station for his government subsidized ride to work; it saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees. You see, some liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.

    “Joe begins his work day; he has a good job with excellent pay, medical benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Joe’s employer pays these standards because Joe’s employer doesn’t want his employees to call the union. If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed he’ll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some liberal didn’t think he should loose his home because of his temporary misfortune.

    “Its noon time, Joe needs to make a Bank Deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe’s deposit is federally insured by the FSLIC because some liberal wanted to protect Joe’s money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the depression.

    “Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae underwritten Mortgage and his below market federal student loan because some stupid liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his life-time.

    “Joe is home from work, he plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive to dads; his car is among the safest in the world because some liberal fought for car safety standards. He arrives at his boyhood home. He was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers Home Administration because bankers didn’t want to make rural loans. The house didn’t have electric until some big government liberal stuck his nose where it didn’t belong and demanded rural electrification. (Those rural Republican’s would still be sitting in the dark)

    “He is happy to see his dad who is now retired. His dad lives on Social Security and his union pension because some liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn’t have to. After his visit with dad he gets back in his car for the ride home.

    “He turns on a radio talk show, the host keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. (He doesn’t tell Joe that his beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day.) Joe agrees, ‘We don’t need those big government liberals ruining our lives; after all, I’m a self made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have.'”

  60. 1085

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 8:14 pm

    73 (continued)

    Now let’s take a look at some of the liberal ideas that right wingers consider “dangerous”:

    “The American Liberal Creed

    “Liberals recognize the value and rights of all people;
    “Liberals recognize that we share the world with others;
    “Liberals support the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights
    and champion their equal application to all citizens;
    Liberals champion knowledge above ignorance, learning above dogma;
    “Liberals recognize that the concept of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness is futile without education, healthcare and employment;
    “Liberals recognize that government of the people, by the people, and for the people is for the service and protection of all, regardless of economic status;
    “Liberals recognize that public works and institutions serve the public interest, and taxes support those works and institutions;
    “Liberals recognize that ‘every person for themselves’ leads not to a diverse, enlightened and viable society, but only to jungle-like ‘survival of the fittest’;
    “Liberals recognize that an individual, not government, controls their own body;
    “Liberals recognize that neither government nor commerce is suitable to meet all of our nation’s challenges, that there is a place for both;
    “Liberals propagate this message, defend it, and vote for and support those who do.

    © Warren Brown 2003”

  61. 1086

    Anonymous spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 8:14 pm

    Actually, the AmericanFascist is Haq’s twin brother. . . . .

  62. 1087

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 8:14 pm

    wow Doctor JCH Kennedy (aka) buttnutz they made a movie about you
    Queen Of The Damned ………………

  63. 1088

    Anonymous spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 8:18 pm

    You mean that old huggermugger wants to be a queen now?

  64. 1089

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 8:19 pm

    oh here is the 94 election documentary about Newt Gingridge …….Night of the Demons

  65. 1090

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 8:20 pm

    OMIGOD!!! THE LIBERALS ARE COMING!!!

    “And their wives are bitches. And their kids probably sell drugs on street corners for spending cash. They are ineffectual and ambulance chasers and they hate America. They have a subversive plot to destroy the country because … ok, I can never quite figure that one out, but dammit, I know they must be really really BAD people who are out to destroy American families. They have BAD values. I am not real clear what those BAD VALUES are, but I know they have them. They are BAD.

    “And I know that because my Republican leadership tells me so. They HAVE to be really REALLY AWFUL so that my Republican leaders can make George W. Bush and Dick Cheney look good by comparison. Since my Republican leaders will not tell me why I should vote for Bush or Cheney, just why I shouldn’t vote for Kerry/Edwards, I have to go on the theory that Kerry and Edwards are actually the reincarnation of evil divided into two bodies to fool the American public. And I also know that anybody that supports them is LIBERAL!! HOLY JESUS!! RUN!! RUN AWAY (or shoot them. Maybe we should just shoot all the liberals)!!! THE LIBERALS ARE COMING!! And we all know that LIBERALS are all out to destroy American families, too. And why do they want to destroy American families?? Because they have BAD VALUES!! I know this because the word LIBERAL means something horrible and evil and BAD. And…you guessed it…I know this because my Republican leadership told me so.

    “Do you know what those horrible, stinking LIBERALS want to do??? They want to make it so that anybody that works hard can afford a higher education. Bastards. They want to insure that the only reason we go to war and kill a thousand of the bravest people in our country is because we have PROOF that the country we are attacking is a clear and present danger. Pussies. Don’t they know that its good enough to really strongly suspect that there might be a danger?? Hey, isn’t that what a pre-emptive strike is all about?? Stinking LIBERALS want to make sure that their children are not left with trillions of dollars of budget deficit to pay off. HA! Don’t they know it is far more important that we live well RIGHT NOW than that our children live well?? And stinking LIBERALS think that the measure of a society is not how well the highest of its members live, but how well the lowest of its members live. Assholes.

    “Now, I can’t really tell you anything factual that illustrates why George Bush would be a better choice than John Kerry. Oh, and I in no way believe any of the repeated stories about conflict of interest or ethical misconduct that are reported. That is just the LIBERAL media with their political agenda talking. I get my news from politically neutral sources like FOX and CNN. They NEVER slant a story or report with any kind of bias, so I know that I can trust Bill O’Reilly and Sean Hannity and all those guys.

    “But I don’t have to have any facts or proof of why George Bush is the best choice for President. Because GOD HIMSELF personally has chosen George Bush to lead this country. My minister told me so right after the local GOP organizer called and asked for our congregational directory. That was when my minister said that Bush would never do anything ethically questionable, so I know that he must be both chosen by god and ethically sound.”

  66. 1091

    Anonymous spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 8:22 pm

    You know, JCH tried that trick where the’Georgie-Boys’ tie their unit back with a knotted up pair of panty-hose. Didn’t work, though. He hasn’t enough of a ‘knob’ to tie on to. . . . .

  67. 1092

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 8:24 pm

    89

    “Shit, it looks like Ernesto isn’t going to amount to much. The dramatic backdrop you guys were looking for just isn’t gonna happen. Dang…” Commentby Mark The Redneck— 8/27/06@ 7:27 pm

    Bush dodges a bullet. Lucky him. Bush needs to rely on luck, because he doesn’t have anything else going for him. Least of all brains, organization, or planning. P.S., pay the $100 you owe Goldy, cheapskate!

  68. 1093

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 8:24 pm

    77

    No.

  69. 1094

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 8:26 pm

    77

    The guy testified at a public hearing on the Corps’ own proposal to blow up the dam, dumbass!!! But if you’re really worried about people who advocate blowing up dams, then they should have investigated the regional engineer of the Corps of Engineers. He’s the guy in charge of the dynamite, and he’s the guy who proposed it.

  70. 1095

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 8:27 pm

    77 (continued)

    It’s people like Michael who caused the Framers to think universal suffrage wouldn’t work.

  71. 1096

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 8:28 pm

    82

    “There is a certain something to be said about requiring people to sign in and supply a valid e-mail address before posting.” Commentby John Barelli— 8/27/06@ 6:00 pm

    And there’s a good reason not to: A Department of Homeland Security subpoena.

  72. 1097

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 8:29 pm

    82 (continued)

    For further clarification, see #68.

  73. 1098

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 8:34 pm

    69

    “Was the Jew killer a conservative or liberal.”

    He was a fundie wingnut.

    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 8/27/06@ 8:05 pm

    Now if you can only get Haq to believe that. hehehe

  74. 1099

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 8:36 pm

    I thought the jew killer is a Christofashist?

  75. 1100

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 8:37 pm

    84

    What really happened, of course, is that petty and mean-spirited bureaucrats retaliated against an activist who had been a thorn in their side by reporting him to the FBI as a suspected terrorist.

    That’s about the same thing as an unruly student retaliating against a teacher for sending him to the principle’s office by accusing the teacher of child molesting.

    Those bureaucrats deserve to lose their jobs. Their agency deserves to be sued for monetary damages. Their boss should be demoted and transferred to Mississippi, and their building should be razed and turned into a parking lot.

  76. 1101

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 8:38 pm

    principal not principle

  77. 1102

    Anonymous spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 8:39 pm

    OTOH, Homeland Security may be up to the same fine, high standards pioneered by FEMA in NO. . . . .

  78. 1103

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 8:40 pm

    88

    No; but I don’t care what you think, so go ahead and think it.

  79. 1104

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 8:41 pm

    90

    “You’re right…” Commentby Mark The Redneck— 8/27/06@ 7:28 pm

    He’s never been right about anything, and neither have you.

  80. 1105

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 8:42 pm

    I thought the jew killer is a Christofashist?

    Commentby The Socialist— 8/27/06@ 8:36 pm

    Of course a commie lib Jew killer would think that. hehehe

  81. 1106

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 8:47 pm

    120

    So would anyone who can read a newspaper.

  82. 1107

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 8:48 pm

    ROGER RABBIT RIDDLE

    Q: How do you make a Christofascist?

    A: Mix 1 part each of Old Granddad with New Testament

  83. 1108

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 8:51 pm

    Of course a commie lib Jew killer would think that. hehehe

    Commentby RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy— 8/27/06@ 8:42 pm

    well thats just the kind of thing you would expect from the

    Queen Of The Damned ……………… :-/

  84. 1109

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 8:54 pm

    Sorry im looking for movies to download

    I decided on this one RV http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0449089/

  85. 1110

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 8:57 pm

    it’s in this news group alt.binaries.b4e

  86. 1111

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 8:59 pm

    120

    So would anyone who can read a newspaper.

    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 8/27/06@ 8:47 pm

    To bad dems cant read, here it is again:

    Haq’s friend said he couldn’t believe the timid, “geeky” man he knew from the tutoring center was capable of such violence.

    “Are you sure we’re talking about the same person?” he said Sunday………….

    He said Haq was not a devout Muslim and often complained that the Tri-Cities were too politically conservative.

    Democrats = Jew Killers.

  87. 1112

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 9:03 pm

    Yes but it sead he converted to Christofashistisum Buttnutz

  88. 1113

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 9:08 pm

    yeah and not one in everett :-(

  89. 1114

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 9:09 pm

    drinking liberaly site that is

  90. 1115

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 9:10 pm

    Thats ok they would probibly throw me out any ways

  91. 1116

    Anonymous spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 9:14 pm

    What! Are you saying Rufus is ‘in the bag’, AGAIN?’
    I didn’t think he could collect enough aluminum cans for ‘Old GrandDad’. MadDog 20-20 mebbe, or Olde English 800. . . .

  92. 1117

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 9:16 pm

    i don’t think Christofashist should be allowed to vote

  93. 1118

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 9:17 pm

    I mean we don’t let retarded people vote do we ? same thing

  94. 1119

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 9:18 pm

    89

    “To bad dems cant read”

    I can spell “too” and “can’t” correctly. You?

  95. 1120

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 9:18 pm

    Poor Dufus, can’t even spell a three-letter word! No wonder I call him “Dufus.”

  96. 1121

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 9:24 pm

    Archbishop Of Canterbury: Gays Must Change Their “Sexual Ethics”…

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new.....ngay27.xml

    just in…………………….

  97. 1122

    Harry Tuttle spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 9:26 pm

    Dufus also quotes from an article that came out before it was revealed that Haq had become a Christian, but that’s no matter. Dufus can’t even understand what he is posting. His friend in the Tri-Cities was saying that he couldn’t understand Haq’s behavior, based on what he had known about him before he moved to the Puget Sound area.

    In other words, he had changed. Into a nut. To become like Dufus.

  98. 1123

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 9:30 pm

    100

    well sead

  99. 1124

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 9:33 pm

    I don’t see any difference from Christian values and the Taliban’s values ………

  100. 1125

    Anonymous spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 9:40 pm

    Dufus apparently had a friend who would read the newspaper tohim,but it seems lately, he no longer has anyone to read the news to him. . .

  101. 1126

    Harry Tuttle spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 9:42 pm

    Did anyone else hear “Al”, the caller on Goldy’s second hour who regurgitated the [UN]SP politics lies about KCRE?

    These guys are total Johnny One-notes. They get a lie firmly implanted into their pea brains and repeat, and repeat, and repeat, and repeat, and repeat, and repeat, and repeat, and repeat, and repeat, and repeat, and repeat, and repeat, and repeat, and repeat, and repeat, and repeat, and repeat, and repeat, and repeat, and repeat, and repeat, and repeat, and repeat, and repeat, and repeat, and repeat, and repeat, and repeat, and repeat, and repeat, and repeat, and repeat, and repeat, and repeat, and repeat, and repeat, and repeat, and repeat, and repeat, and repeat, and repeat, and repeat, and repeat, and repeat, and repeat, and repeat, and repeat, and repeat…

    Ad infinitum.

  102. 1127

    Harry Tuttle spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 9:46 pm

    At least Janet S, Richard Pope and sgmmac come up with something different from time-to-time. The rest of the righties here are 78 RPM records with a jump crack in the platters.

  103. 1128

    Harry Tuttle spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 9:51 pm

    My time is your time, [thunk]… My time is your time, [thunk]… My time is your time, [thunk]… My time is your time, [thunk]… My time is your time, [thunk]… My time is your time, [thunk]… My time is your time, [thunk]… My time is your time, [thunk]… My time is your time, [thunk]… My time is your time, [thunk]… My time is your time, [thunk]… My time is your time, [thunk]…

    We’ll never know from these Rudee Valees what they think their time is worth, but my opinion is that it’s worth nothing.

  104. 1129

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 9:53 pm

    there has to be something done about all the right-wing propaganda . Ragon really screwed up our media in this country . Bye getting rid of the fairness doctrine and de regulating the news media so they could bye up all the station they wanted and not have to worry about Reporting the truth any more .

    Before they would have gotten there license yanked if they tried what they do now a days.

  105. 1130

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 9:55 pm

    I think these Christofashist freaks shouldn’t be allowed in any kind of government sense there going to rapture out at any second…….

  106. 1131

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 10:05 pm

    Al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden is a longtime and prominent member of the FBI’s “Ten Most Wanted” list, which notes his role as the suspected mastermind of the deadly U.S. embassy bombings in East Africa on Aug. 7, 1998.

    But another more infamous date — Sept. 11, 2001 — is nowhere to be found on the same FBI notice.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....00687.html

  107. 1132

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 10:09 pm

    Dufus also quotes from an article that came out before it was revealed that Haq had become a Christian, but that’s no matter. Dufus can’t even understand what he is posting. His friend in the Tri-Cities was saying that he couldn’t understand Haq’s behavior, based on what he had known about him before he moved to the Puget Sound area.

    In other words, he had changed. Into a nut. To become like Dufus.

    Commentby Harry Tuttle— 8/27/06@ 9:26 pm

    You mean that it was common knowledge that Haq moved to Seattle because he:

    “often complained that the Tri-Cities were too politically conservative”

    Oh I get it, people moved to Seattle to get saved. Hahahahahahaha
    hehehehe

    Oh you are rich Harry, moonbat 101. hehehe

  108. 1133

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 10:18 pm

    Yep, Seattle is a center of the consevative religous right. hehehehehehehe

    No wonder the left is faling apart. Their lies are not even close to believable. You got to do better than that. hahahahahaha

  109. 1134

    Mike Webb Sucks spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 10:22 pm

    The spam is probably our WingNut friends thinking they are funny and cute. Just like a Wingnut to mention a tragedy and blame it on Democrats. How do they do that? Oh, wait, they don’t have any reasoning ability. My bad. ’nuff said. (oops. Sorry Pussypud, it just slips out and my delete key is broken). Carl Grossman Liberal, Democrat and my condolences to the familys and victims of the Comair tragedy. Commentby My Left Foot— 8/27/06@ 4:06 pm

    Carl Oh So Gross Man: Where did Puddy say it was donko caused? Go back and reread post #1. You are delirious. You are stupid and you are a MOONBAT!

  110. 1135

    Mike Webb Sucks spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 10:26 pm

    AmericaFirst@51: See how the Internet flushes out the moonbats? Great detective work! I remember the Furball as Truth Teller too. But Furball has many aliases. I call them the Furballettes!

  111. 1136

    Mike Webb Sucks spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 10:39 pm

    At least Janet S, Richard Pope and sgmmac come up with something different from time-to-time. The rest of the righties here are 78 RPM records with a jump crack in the platters. Commentby Harry Tuttle— 8/27/06@ 9:46 pm

    Naturally Garry Guttle is MUTE on the 359 times the Cheap Labor Furball writes the same crapola! Garry is so transparent!

  112. 1137

    Mike Webb Sucks spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 10:44 pm

    Hey Moonbats: Why didn’t NBC change their opening? Is it moonbats are not nice people after all?

    http://hotair.com/archives/200.....-accident/

  113. 1138

    Mike Webb Sucks spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 10:48 pm

    I hope NBC pays big time.

    http://www.deadlinehollywoodda.....-thinking/

  114. 1139

    Mike Webb Sucks spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 10:58 pm

    Moonbats:

    Wasn’t there a thread over a Merry Fitzmas? Didn’t the lead anti-JCH cheerleader GBS spout off as the largest geyser?

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14...../newsweek/

  115. 1140

    Anonymous spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 11:00 pm

    Mike Webb Sucks is such a pathetic little piece of trash. . .lives with a woman old enough to be his mother. . .oh! That is his mother! Better not let her catch you on her computer there sonny boy. . .

  116. 1141

    Anonymous spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 11:02 pm

    Don’t worry, little twit. You’re in no danger of being called back from the ready reserve to serve with the Marines. Even the jarheads wouldn’t have you puking and peeing yourself in your litt Yellow Elephant War.

  117. 1142

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 11:08 pm

    Why anybody would take the dems and Joe Wilson/Valarie Plame seriously is beyond me.

  118. 1143

    Mike Webb Sucks spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 11:14 pm

    Mike Webb Sucks is such a pathetic little piece of trash. . .lives with a woman old enough to be his mother. . .oh! That is his mother! Better not let her catch you on her computer there sonny boy. . . Commentby Anonymous— 8/27/06@ 11:00 pm

    Headless Lucy is back at it again. Sorry Mom does not live with me. Since your are “anonymous”, I guess your mother was anonymous too? She pushed you out, left you in front of the hospital and was GONE!

  119. 1144

    Mike Webb Sucks spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 11:21 pm

    Say Anonymous: Didn’t some moonbats on this “radio” station announce Hezbollah won the recent Israeli/Hezbollah dustup? http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200....._nasrallah

    “We did not think, even 1 percent, that the capture would lead to a war at this time and of this magnitude. You ask me, if I had known on July 11 … that the operation would lead to such a war, would I do it? I say no, absolutely not,” he said in an interview with Lebanon’s New TV station.”

    Why would the “winner” have to explain himself? I think because the Lebanese are pissed at Nasrallah.

  120. 1145

    Mike Webb Sucks spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 11:26 pm

    Didn’t some moonbats say GW Bush “screwed this up too”; I think was the term regarding letting Israel deal with Hezbollah. Looks like the moonbats are wrong again. Why are moonbats against progress? Why does a defeat for liberty and justice forward the donko process? Why when Americans die are the loony moonbats cheering?

  121. 1146

    Mike Webb Sucks spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 11:28 pm

    Didn’t GWB say in a news conference that Olmert and Israel were the winners and many MSM moonbats and some here blew him off? What a difference two weeks makes.

    I think there is a term that aptly names a moonbat and the MSM – CLUELESS! I love librul punditry. So wrong so many times!

  122. 1147

    Michael spews:

    Sunday, 8/27/06 at 11:29 pm

    @50 You mean the Army Corps of Engineers? Are they a terrorist organization?

    Jim Bensman is not a member of the Army Corps of Engineers. Don’t be silly.

  123. 1148

    Anonymous spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 12:00 am

    Psychotic little Sucky trollfuck: Israel was being used by the psychotics in Washington, idiot. The neocons would love to have a full scale war in the mideast. They want to take out both Syria and Iran. Israel probably doesn’t give a rat’s ass about Syria, but desparately wanted to pull Hisbullah’s teeth. If that opened the way for a war with Iran, then they could suck us in.
    Idiots all. The Israelis thought they could take out Hizbullah with an air campaign. Idiots. Then they sent in green reserve ground troops. Even more foolery.
    They did not take out Hisbullah. . .merely destroyed the only true democracy in the Arab Mid-east. Superbly stupid.
    Olmert could loose his government over this. Dumber still. NasrAllah has some splainin’ to do, but still rides high and free. That’s why both the US and Israel ‘lost’.
    If you can read, read a newspaper. . .from almost anywhere outside the US. Then you won’t expose your ignorance so freely.

  124. 1149

    Chocolate Moose spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 12:20 am

    @13 Left Turd, you goddamn fucking asshole- only you would go and try to score cheap political points off of a tragedy. You are one real fucking jerk. Check out Roger Rabbit’s comments @ 24 and 25 for the truth- not that you would ever recognize the truth.

  125. 1150

    My Left Foot spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 2:18 am

    Mike Webb @ 112:

    I guess that sarcasm escapes you. No surprise from mindless trollfuck.

    Carl Grossman
    Liberal, Democrat and resolving to talk down to trollfuck level more often so they can understand what is being said.

  126. 1151

    My Left Foot spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 2:23 am

    Seems that John Craig is now having fantasies about my wife. Would someone please inform the sadly delusional John Craig that Mrs. Left Foot has plainly stated her case in post number 32.

    Maybe his mom is just not turning him on anymore.

    And for the record, Mrs. Left Foot is not Jewish. Like Goldy, I married a shiksa.

    Carl Grossman
    Liberal, Democrat and I will never rest until we have taken back our country.

  127. 1152

    Mike Webb Sucks spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 7:09 am

    I guess that sarcasm escapes you. No surprise from mindless trollfuck. Carl Grossman Liberal, Democrat and resolving to talk down to trollfuck level more often so they can understand what is being said. Commentby My Left Foot— 8/28/06@ 2:18 am

    SARCASM from an idiot will always escape me. Why? I have nothing in common with an IDIOT!

  128. 1153

    Mike Webb Sucks spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 7:13 am

    You know I was expecting Chuck Schumer to wake up after the scare his family had with the indicted fast food Al-Qaeda. Sadly he is back to his moonbat tricks.

    http://www.nysun.com/article/38624

    He is more worried about a building than rapes, bribery and corruption. Seems to me these are the tenets of the donkocratic party.

    Just ax the Kennedy family about those three actions.

  129. 1154

    Mike Webb Sucks spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 7:18 am

    Chocolate Moose: Sometimes LeftHisTurdBehindLostHisBrain’s comments as in #13 stand alone in absolute stupidity. Since the moonbats on the left seldom take him to task, it speaks volumes on how the moonbat brain operates. In this case we have a prime example of how the moonbat brain processes tragic information.

    LeftHisTurdBehindLostHisBrain, keep up the good work. We need to place these comments front and center why you guys can’t have Congressional control. The pilot made a mistake you IDIOT!

  130. 1155

    Mike Webb Sucks spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 7:22 am

    Anonymous really known as Headless Lucy:

    Afraid to post with your own name? Afraid to come out of the closet for the idiotic comments previously made?

    I read overseas newspapers. Since most of them are moonbattic in nature you have to read Haaretz and other one that cut through the bullshit. For Yahoo to print that was an eye opener!!!

    Yes Olmert made some mistakes. But for the Shi’a to have their dead in the hands of Israelis is abhorrent to them. For Nasrallah to ADMIT those things is an eye opener. You are the idiot! Keep on down the road of lunacy!

  131. 1156

    Men in the White Coats spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 7:59 am

    Mike,

    Can you put this jacket on and step into the white van?

  132. 1157

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 8:34 am

    IT’S THE ECONOMY, STOOPID!!!

    A New York Times article today confirms what I’ve said all along: Workers are getting screwed under the Bush Economy. According to the article, most Americans are worse off despite rising productivity, while the share of economic output going to profits and people at the top soars to all-time highs.

    Welcome to the Wingnut Economy.

    “The median hourly wage for American workers has declined … after factoring in inflation. The drop has been especially notable … because productivity … has risen steadily(;) … wages and salaries now make up the lowest share of the nation’s gross domestic product since the government began recording the data in 1947, while corporate profits have climbed to their highest share since the 1960’s ….”

    According to the article, academic and non-partisan political analysts expect political repercussions, while Bush administration officials and GOP politicos pooh-pooh that possibility and try to shift blame.

    “(T)he Federal Reserve chairman … warned that the unequal distribution of the economy’s spoils could derail the trade liberalization of recent decades. … ‘It’s a dangerous time for any party to have control … ,’ said Charles Cook, who publishes a nonpartisan political newsletter.”

    Economists attribute the wage stagnation to global trade, immigration, layoffs, technology, higher spending by companies on health benefits, and weaker trade unions — all of which erode workers’ bargaining power:

    “Together, these forces have caused a growing share of the economy to go to companies instead of workers’ paychecks. … Total employee compensation … has not been so low since 1966 … economists at Goldman Sachs wrote, ‘The most important contributor to higher profit margins over the past five years has been a decline in labor’s share of national income.’ … Worker productivity rose 16.6 percent from 2000 to 2005, while total compensation for the median worker rose 7.2 percent, according to Labor Department statistics …. ‘If I had to sum it up,’ said Jared Bernstein, a senior economist …, ‘it comes down to bargaining power and the lack of ability of many in the work force to claim their fair share of growth.’ … Even for workers at the 90th percentile of earners — making about $80,000 a year — inflation has outpaced their pay increases over the last three years, according to the Labor Department.

    “’There are two economies out there,’ Mr. Cook, the political analyst, said. … In 2004, the top 1 percent of earners — a group that includes many chief executives — received 11.2 percent of all wage income, up from 8.7 percent a decade earlier and less than 6 percent three decades ago, according to … economists who analyzed the tax data.”

    This article is excerpted under the Fair Use Doctrine; for complete story and/or copyright info, see http://tinyurl.com/re4hd

  133. 1158

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 8:45 am

    “@50 You mean the Army Corps of Engineers? Are they a terrorist organization? Jim Bensman is not a member of the Army Corps of Engineers. Don’t be silly.” Commentby Michael— 8/27/06@ 11:29 pm

    Michael, it’s you who is being silly. The Corps suggested blowing up the dam. So Bensman, a well known activist, went to the public hearing and testified, “Yes, I prefer that option to digging a migration channel, because dams are destructive to the environment.” Then they reported him to the FBI as a potential terrorist. Why? Because the petty and vindictive bureaucrats in the Corps are irritated by Bensman’s long-standing activism and criticism of their agency. Those assholes ought to be fired. They’re public servants, not the other way around. Bensman doesn’t have to kiss their asses. As for Stalinists like you, Michael, you can bend over and kiss my cute cottontail!

  134. 1159

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 8:46 am

    Michael is anti-American.

  135. 1160

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 8:47 am

    114

    “Naturally Garry Guttle is MUTE on the 359 times the Cheap Labor Furball writes the same crapola! Garry is so transparent!” Commentby Mike Webb Sucks— 8/27/06@ 10:39 pm

    Unfortunately, it’s necessary to repeat something 500 times before 1% of it sinks in to you wingnut blockheads. See #147 … we’re up to 360 now, only 140 to go. Stay tuned for more CHEAP LABOR CONSERVATIVE postings.

  136. 1161

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 8:54 am

    P.S. — Reading HA comments is a voluntary activity. If you don’t like my comments, ask any kid to show you how to use the scroll arrow on your keyboard. It’s not hard, and with practice, even a wingnut can do it.

  137. 1162

    Michael spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 9:46 am

    The Corps suggested blowing up the dam.

    Do you have a source for that? Because it certainly didn’t say that in the link that was provided earlier.

  138. 1163

    Another TJ spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 10:03 am

    The Corps suggested blowing up the dam.

    Do you have a source for that? Because it certainly didn’t say that in the link that was provided earlier.

    Oh, Jeebus. Are you naturally stupid or is this willful? As I pointed out in #50:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....00370.html

    …the corps’ presentation of possible options included a picture of a dam being dynamited.

  139. 1164

    Harry Tuttle spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 10:19 am

    The Seattle-Times article includes this statement:

    “He urged that the dam be removed. He said he never mentioned blowing up the dam, though the corps’ presentation of possible options included a picture of a dam being dynamited.”

    Other reporting has described the Corps of Engineers Powerpoint presentation as including a photograph of a dam being dynamited, as well as the Corps attitude that destruction was not their preferred option.

    There has been a great deal of discussion about removing dams in Washington, and that would, not doubt, involve the use of explosive charges. It’s OK to oppose removing the dams, but not to accuse the proponents of being terrorists for favoring it.

  140. 1165

    John Barelli spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 10:27 am

    “I don’t belong to an organized political party. I’m a Democrat.” – Will Rogers.

    Earlier in this thread, in response to the volume of casino and porn posts, I posted:

    “There is a certain something to be said about requiring people to sign in and supply a valid e-mail address before posting.”

    To which Roger Rabbit (8/27/06@ 8:28 pm) replied:

    “And there’s a good reason not to: A Department of Homeland Security subpoena.”

    **Sigh**

    Yes, unfortunately you may be right.

    On an entirely different topic, in a post over on Washblog, I commented that twenty years ago, if someone would have told me that the federal government would claim the right to use secret subpoenas to check my library borrowing record, I would have laughed in their face and considered them to be a paranoid crackpot.

    Now my local public library has changed their record keeping so that they will not be able to comply with just such a demand, and I find myself being careful of what I buy on Amazon.

    Wasn’t it the Republicans that said that liberals were going to make this country into another Soviet Union? I guess we just weren’t doing it fast enough for them.

  141. 1166

    Daddy Love spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 10:31 am

    Tropical Storm Ernesto is just hitting Cuba as we speak, and once it leaves land there is hot water both right and left as it heads north. Just to be clear, hot water means that storms passing over get more intense. Still, it is not predicted to be any more powerful than a Cat 1 hurricane when and if it hits Florida. But to say that Ernesto “isn’t going to amount to much” is understating its potential by a long shot.

  142. 1167

    Daddy Love spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 10:34 am

    Bush and his pals want to chase so-called “environmental terrorists” (even when they have to create them) because their business pals pay good money for the Justice Department and other Executive agenscies to clear paths for them. Unfortunately, the corporate insterests to whose tune the Bush administration dances don’t seem to care much about things like port security, airline security, or other measure that keep, you know, PEOPLE safe.

  143. 1168

    Another TJ spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 10:36 am

    John Barelli,

    You might be interested in this post from Glenn Greenwald, sitting in at FDL to lead a discussion of John Dean’s book, “Conservatives Without Conscience.”

    http://www.firedoglake.com/200.....ce-week-1/

  144. 1169

    Thomas Jefferson spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 10:37 am

    That government is best which governs least.

  145. 1170

    LeftTurn spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 10:38 am

    Moose eater you should read some of the stuff your fellow right wing cum-eating asshole buddies write here.

    So fuck you back bitch.

    But truth be told, there’s no doubt that republicanism impacted the crash in Lexington. In fact, it may have contributed to two possible causes of the crash. In addition to the war mongers and Iraqi baby killers on the right wanting tax money to go only to war, and therefore reducing money available to improve airports, way back to Ronnie RayGun the righties destroyed the Air Traffic Controllers Union so now scabs work at many airports and no doubt that is the case at Lexington. I can only hope the plane was full of republicans.

  146. 1171

    Harry Tuttle spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 10:38 am

    163.

    You’re not bringing up an entirely different topic, John. The unaccountable investigations made possible by legislation and presidential power grabbing leads to situations where federal agencies like the ACOE make specious allegations against persons who merely speak freely in public meetings.

    Remember the peace group in Fresno, CA who was infiltrated by an undercover FBI agent for opposing the war in Iraq?

    The wingnut solution, of course, is for us to stop talking and let them carry on their destruction of the United States Constitution unabated.

  147. 1172

    Daddy Love spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 10:43 am

    California wingnut Representative Tom Lantos wants the US to block promised aid to Lebanon, but send it to Israel. Here’s another reason to vote for Democrats this fall. The REPUBLICAN ideas that we should bring about a situation where Lebanon’s economy and infrastructure have been battered by US-made Israeli weapons and then rebuilt by Iranian dollars funneled through Hezbollah, and that THIS is going to somehow serve our interests or Israel’s, is just crazy. They REALLY love creating new terrorists.

  148. 1173

    Richard Pope spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 10:43 am

    Tropical storms, well below hurricane strength, have sometimes killed thousands of people in Haiti through rainfall and mudslides.

    In 1972, Hurricane Agnes (at low Category 1 strength) killed 9 people in Florida. It soon reduced to a tropical storm and then a tropical depression. At tropical storm/depression strength, Agnes killed 113 people in the Appalachians and Northeast from rainfall, mudslides, and flooding and caused $2.1 billion in damages in 1972 dollars — or $11.6 billion in 2005 dollars. In current dollars, Agnes was the 7th costliest storm in U.S. history.

  149. 1174

    Harry Tuttle spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 10:55 am

    177.

    Lantos is a Democrat, Daddy

    http://www.vote-smart.org/bio......03?q=print

    He has always been extremely pro-Israel. Right or wrong, that isn’t a trait exclusive to Republicans.

  150. 1175

    Mike Webb Sucks spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 11:04 am

    Good “unavailable” try Goldie, but I copy my posts before sending.

    Congressman Tom Lantos (D-San Mateo-San Francisco) – Daddy Love said it correctly: “California wingnut Representative Tom Lantos wants the US to block promised aid to Lebanon, but send it to Israel. Here’s another reason to vote for Democrats this fall. The REPUBLICAN ideas that we should bring about a situation where Lebanon’s economy and infrastructure have been battered by US-made Israeli weapons and then rebuilt by Iranian dollars funneled through Hezbollah, and that THIS is going to somehow serve our interests or Israel’s, is just crazy. They REALLY love creating new terrorists.”

    Truer words have not been said about a MOONBAT in a long time.

  151. 1176

    Daddy Love spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 11:05 am

    That’s all we need, crazy Jewish Democrats joining forces with the Wingnut neocons pushing America from it’s historical (and advantageous) position as at least a semi- “honest broker” in the Middle East to one from which we openly oppose Muslims and Muslim nations and back Israeli attacks on them.

  152. 1177

    Mike Webb Sucks spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 11:05 am

    Now I wonder if Daddy Love and LeftHisTurdBehindLostHisBrain are the same moonbat IDIOT poster!

  153. 1178

    Libertarian spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 11:06 am

    In fact, it may have contributed to two possible causes of the crash.
    Commentby LeftTurn— 8/28/06@ 10:38 am

    ===========

    Let’s condsider the concept of “critical field length” and “critical engine failure speed.” Critical field length is the length of runway required for an aircraft to accelerate on two engines, experieince an engine failure and either continue the takeoff or abort the takeoff IN THE SAME DISTANCE.

    Critical field length is adversely affected by high ambient temperature and high pressure altitutdes. For example, it’s “easier” for an aircraft to take off from Boeing Field at 95 degrees than from Denver with the temp at 95 degrees. The reason is that Denver is about a mile ABOVE sea level, and Boeing Field is pretty much AT sea level (i.e., lower pressure altitude).

    I’m assuming that there was no engine failure on the takeoff for this commuter jet, so we’ll just concnetrate on critical field length. This airplane was taking-off on a runway that was woefully short of the required critical field length. After reaching only a moderate sped ontakeoff roll, it didn’t have enough runway to stop in an emergency. The pilots no doubt panicked at the end of this small runway and forced the aircraft into the air before it was ready to fly. Now, if you’ve ever flown an aircraft, you know about ground effect. That is when the wingtip vortices generated on rotation produce what amounts to a lifting action on the aircraft as it rotates to get airborne. The trouble is, this ground effect goes away pretty quickly, and ineveitably the aircraft settles back to the ground. In this case, that “settling” took place ina corn field as the plane stalled.

    It was physically impossible for this aircraft to take-off on Runway 08-26. The pilots, I believe, were confused as to where they were on the aerodrome. They thought they were taking off on Runwya 04-22 (over 7,000 feet), but they were actually on Runway 08-26 (3,400 feet). the confusion resulted in the disaster.

    As for the demise of PATCO during the Reagan era, this had nothing to do with the crash. Poor visibility (haze) obscured the control tower personnels’ view of the airfield. I flew airplanes for many years after the union went kaput, and the air traffic control was as good or better after PATCO’s end than before it went belly-up.

    In short, LeftTurn, you can’t blame the crash on unions, scabs, George W. or anyone else other than the two guys operating the aircraft.

  154. 1179

    Mike Webb Sucks spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 11:10 am

    Daddy Love: Congressman Tom Lantos is the only Holocaust survivor ever to serve in the US Congress.

    I guess that makes him a Jewish Wingnut!

    We on the right rest our case. Goldie’s Librul Northwest Division of Lunatic Moonbats are Jewish Holocaust haters.

  155. 1180

    Daddy Love spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 11:11 am

    Republican or Democrat, openly punishing Lebanon (who have never been in a position to stop Hezbollah, nor have we assisted them since the “Cedar Revolution” to become any more capable) and assisting the Israelis who were droppping US-made cluster bombs on Lebanese civilians just makes us all the more universally hated in a Muslim world we should be courting in order to DEFUSE terrorism.

  156. 1181

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 11:12 am

    New Jersey’s reputation as a tax hell just got worse. The $1.9 billion worth of tax increases in the state’s new budget represents a 5 percent increase over last year, far outpacing any other state, /SNIP/ the highest state sales tax, tied with three other states, at 7 percent. Its cigarette tax now leads in the nation. And, of course, this all comes on top of the nation’s highest average property taxes.

    What a joke. When other municipalities and states are finally starting to believe that revenues actually increase when taxes go down, NJ continues to strangle itself.
    The state motto should be taxpayers saying, “Seeeee ya! I’m out of here”. [Atlas has Shrugged.]

    So who is going to be left to support these dems? Welfare hacks, Union thugs? “Guvment” employees? Classic!!

    Still trying to tax their state government into prosperity.

    Doesn’t work in a depression, doesn’t work in a boom, and sure doesn’t work during whatever it is that New Jersey is going through.

    CUT YOUR SPENDING AND END THE CORRUPTION!!!

    They vote in Democrats and get higher taxes? Whodda thunk it?

  157. 1182

    Daddy Love spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 11:13 am

    Mike Webb Sucks

    Just like a Republican–ignore the issue and smear the poster.

    Me, a “Jewish Holocaust hater?” Hardly. But I am not a lockstep party supporter either (unlike Republicans). If I think a Democrat is wrong on policy, and I think TL is, I’ll say so.

  158. 1183

    Chocolate Moose spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 11:16 am

    Left Turn- as I said, and reiterate, it takes one lousy subhuman being to take joy in a tragedy like that air crash.

    You are obviously on lousy subhuman being. Take a clue from the Rabbit- it is possible to be a lefty and maintain some dignity and compassion.

    So go fuck yourself, you goddamn stupid moron.

  159. 1184

    Daddy Love spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 11:17 am

    News flash?
    Webb pulls ahead of Allen in VA.

  160. 1185

    Mike Webb Sucks spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 11:18 am

    Libertarian: Trying to explain reality to LeftHisTurdBehindLostHisBrain is like asking your dog to find the Horsesass URL on the Internet.

    Your dog may get lucky. LeftHisTurdBehindLostHisBrain is peerless and clueless!

  161. 1186

    Daddy Love spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 11:20 am

    A year after Katrina? FEMA failed utterly. If you are in a city that could experience a disaster (and who is not?), you should be worried.

    Posit: EVEN IF the mayor of NOLA and the governor of LA had done everything in THEIR power prefectly,
    – the ice still would have been sent to Boston
    – the necessary resources would not have been pre-positioned
    – Bush would still have stayed on vacation, interrupting it only to to photo-ops with McCain and country music stars
    – Broderick would still have made life and death decisions based on CNN’s coverage of drinking in the French Quarter while ignoring the 700 emails that described the catastrophic flooding

  162. 1187

    Daddy Love spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 11:24 am

    Hey, even ISRAEL think that Lebanon should receive more aid:

    “Defense Minister Amir Peretz on Sunday told the cabinet that the absence of international involvement in the rehabilitation of Lebanon is allowing Hezbollah to gain more power.”
    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/p.....ntrassID=1

  163. 1188

    Mike Webb Sucks spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 11:32 am

    Just like a Republican–ignore the issue and smear the poster. Me, a “Jewish Holocaust hater?” Hardly. But I am not a lockstep party supporter either (unlike Republicans). If I think a Democrat is wrong on policy, and I think TL is, I’ll say so. Commentby Daddy Love— 8/28/06@ 11:13 am

    IGNORE What? Lebanon supports avoved terrorists? Lebanon allows them to be armed against UN resolutions? Tom Lantos speaking out against that? Scares the crap out of you?

    Now you change your tune? You stepped in it. Can’t wipe it away that quickly. BTW We think donk are wrong on many policies!

  164. 1189

    rhp6033 spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 11:42 am

    Barelli at 163: You mentioned that you have to be careful about buying on Amazaon these days, becuase you never know what’s being reported to Homeland Security. That book you buy for your nephew’s birthday, “Chemistry for Fun & Education”, can put you on a “no-fly” list, without your knowledge or even having a chance to contest it – ever.

    But don’t think that “not buying on Amazon” will protect you. Just by visiting the site, you are leaving a trail for others to look at your browsing habits. (1) Even if Amazon isn’t giving this data to Homeland Security, they may in the future; (2) Who’s to say they aren’t already giving it, and (3) they may be accessing this info without Amazon’s knowledge.

  165. 1190

    Mike Webb Sucks spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 11:44 am

    So Daddy Love not a lock step party booster? How about your support for Maria CantVoteWell?

  166. 1191

    Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 11:47 am

    There’s little doubt that Iran has pockets deep enough to rebuild Lebanon. Having a sharp pointed end sticking in Israel’s throat is also a strong incentive for them to do so. Israel has a lot to make up for after this fight, and may have permanently wed Lebanon, Druze, Maronites, and Orthodox included, to Hisbollah. When you level a country to get a handfull of terrorists, and use cluster bombs to do so, you reduce the non-combatants down to the status of cockroaches. No wonder we are condemned to see the re-ennactment of the myth of Cadmon. . .everywhere we cast the teeth and drops of blood from the monster we seek to slay, armed men spring up anew. . . .

  167. 1192

    Libertarian spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 11:52 am

    (3) they may be accessing this info without Amazon’s knowledge.

    Commentby rhp6033— 8/28/06@ 11:42 am

    =============

    Good point, rhp6033. The secret squirrels can actually monitor what one’s typing from outside one’s building or home. They just tweak their equipment to capture one’s keystrokes while one types.

  168. 1193

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 12:01 pm

    Carl Grossmanstein, Could Bush force “Ernesto” to attack Miami because of the Jewish Democrat vote there? Robert Kennedy, Jr. blamed Katrina on Bush, so I thought you libs might have an idea as to where Bush is pointing “Ernesto”? hehe, JCH

  169. 1194

    Mike Webb Sucks spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 12:07 pm

    Anonymous: You are truly stupid Headless Lucy. Here is why I rarely read Der Spiegel, Match, Le Monde, The Guardian, etc. They are moonbat newspapers and don’t cover the real stories

    Daddy Love: Maybe you agree with this?

    “When you walk in the streets of Gaza City, you cannot but close your eyes because of what you see there: unimaginable chaos, careless policemen, young men carrying guns and strutting with pride and families receiving condolences for their dead in the middle of the street.”

    This is how Ghazi Hamad, spokesman for the Hamas-controlled Palestinian Authority government and a former newspaper editor, described the situation in the Gaza Strip in an article he published on Sunday on some Palestinian news Web sites.

    The article, the first of its kind by a senior Hamas official, also questioned the effectiveness of the Kassam rocket attacks and noted that since Israel evacuated the Gaza Strip, the situation there has deteriorated on all levels. It holds the armed groups responsible for the crisis and calls on them to reconsider their tactics and to stop blaming Israel for their mistakes.

    “Gaza is suffering under the yoke of anarchy and the swords of thugs,” Hamad wrote. “I remember the day when Israel withdrew from the Gaza Strip and closed the gates behind. Then, Palestinians across the political spectrum took to the streets to celebrate what many of us regarded as the Israeli defeat or retreat. We heard a lot about a promising future in the Gaza Strip and about turning the area into a trade and industrial zone.”

    Hamad said the “culture of life” that prevailed in the Strip has since been replaced with a nightmare. “Life became a nightmare and an intolerable burden,” he said. “Today I ask myself a daring and frightening question: ‘Why did the occupation return to Gaza?’ The normal reply: ‘The occupation is the reason.'”

    Dismissing Israel’s responsibility for the growing state of anarchy and lawlessness in the Gaza Strip, Hamad said it was time for the Palestinians to embark on a soul-searching process to see where they erred.

    “We’re always afraid to talk about our mistakes,” he added. “We’re used to blaming our mistakes on others. What is the relationship between the chaos, anarchy, lawlessness, indiscriminate murders, theft of land, family rivalries, transgression on public lands and unorganized traffic and the occupation? We are still trapped by the mentality of conspiracy theories – one that has limited our capability to think.”

    Hamad admitted that the Palestinians have failed in developing the Gaza Strip following the Israeli withdrawal and in imposing law and order. He said about 500 Palestinians have been killed and 3,000 wounded since the Israeli pullout, in addition to the destruction of much of the infrastructure in the area.

    By comparison, he said, only three or four Israelis have been killed by the rockets fired from the Gaza Strip over the same period.

    “Some will argue that it’s not a matter of profit or loss, but that this has an accumulating effect” he said. “This may be true. But isn’t there a possibility of decreasing the number of casualties and increasing our gains by using our brains and making the proper calculations away from demagogic statements?”

    The Hamas official said that while his government was unable to change the situation, the opposition was sitting on the side and watching and PA President Mahmoud Abbas was as weak as ever.

    “We have all been attacked by the bacteria of stupidity,” he remarked. “We have lost our sense of direction and we don’t know where we’re headed.”

    Addressing the various armed groups in the Gaza Strip, Hamad concluded: “Please have mercy on Gaza. Have mercy on us from your demagogy, chaos, guns, thugs, infighting. Let Gaza breathe a bit. Let it live.”

    http://www.jpost.com/servlet/S.....4525954624

  170. 1195

    Mike Webb Sucks spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 12:50 pm

    This is a comment James Carville could have said: ““We have all been attacked by the bacteria of stupidity,” he remarked. “We have lost our sense of direction and we don’t know where we’re headed.””

    Hamas==Donkocrats==Socialists==Goldie’s friends==Hater’s of Freedom and Liberty

    Nice try again with that server too busy messsage!

  171. 1196

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 2:03 pm

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    Nation & World: Sunday, August 27, 2006

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    Idea to remove dam triggers probe by FBI

    By JIM SUHR

    The Associated Press

    PREV of NEXT

    TOM GANNAM / AP

    Jim Bensman has been investigated by the FBI after remarks he made at a public meeting about removing a dam were construed to have terrorist undertones.

    ST. LOUIS — Jim Bensman thought his suggestion during a public hearing was harmless enough: Instead of building a channel so migratory fish could go around a dam on the Mississippi River, just get rid of the dam.

    Instead, the environmental activist found himself in hot water, drawing FBI scrutiny to see whether he had any terrorist intentions.

    The case “shows just how easy it is to be labeled a suspected terrorist,” he said.

    It started July 25 in Alton, Ill., when the Army Corps of Engineers invited public discussion about options for improving fish movement at the nearby Melvin Price Locks and Dam, considered a major impediment to roughly 36 species that migrate upstream.

    152

    “Do you have a source for that? Because it certainly didn’t say that in the link that was provided earlier.” Commentby Michael— 8/28/06@ 9:46 am

    Talk to your optometrist about reading glasses, Michael, because it certainly DID say that.

    “During the 90-minute hearing whose agenda included whether to build a fish channel, Bensman said, he contended that dams are environmentally destructive and amount to billions of dollars in corporate welfare for boating interests. He urged that the dam be removed. He said he never mentioned blowing up the dam, though the corps’ presentation of possible options included a picture of a dam being dynamited.”

    Now let’s quote that again, in condensed form, in case you still don’t get it:

    “During the 90-minute hearing … the corps’ presentation of possible options included a picture of a dam being dynamited.”

    Any questions?

  172. 1197

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 2:06 pm

    Click here for Michael’s school picture: http://tinyurl.com/pqgkk

  173. 1198

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 2:07 pm

    There are trolls, and then there are trolls … Michael somehow manages to be both stupid and a liar at the same time. He makes a pretty good Stalinist, too.

    Quite an accomplishment for one stupid little post by one stupid little wingnut.

  174. 1199

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 2:09 pm

    169

    “Bush and his pals want to chase so-called “environmental terrorists” (even when they have to create them) because their business pals pay good money for the Justice Department and other Executive agenscies to clear paths for them. Unfortunately, the corporate insterests to whose tune the Bush administration dances don’t seem to care much about things like port security, airline security, or other measure that keep, you know, PEOPLE safe.” Commentby Daddy Love— 8/28/06@ 10:34 am

    It’s only a matter of time before they bring back SLAPP suits. In other words, if a citizen goes to a public hearing to object to something a developer or corporation wants to do in the citizen’s neighborhood, the developer or corporation can sue the citizen and take the citizen’s home and life savings. That’ll shut ’em up!!

  175. 1200

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 2:14 pm

    188

    “Take a clue from the Rabbit- it is possible to be a lefty and maintain some dignity and compassion.” Commentby Chocolate Moose— 8/28/06@ 11:16 am

    I’m not a lefty, I’m a patriotic pro-defense fiscal-responsibility centrist. If I seem like a lefty to you, it’s only because Republicans are so extremist.

  176. 1201

    Chocolate Moose spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 2:41 pm

    Mr Rabbit, sir- it was not meant as a put-down- but you do come across as quite in-sync with the rational left on this blog.

    You also come across as dignified (most of the time) and compassionate (except when some idiot deserves a rabbit-kick in the balls).

  177. 1202

    Daddy Love spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 2:52 pm

    Mike Webb Sucks @ 193

    “IGNORE What? Lebanon supports avowed terrorists? Lebanon allows them to be armed against UN resolutions?”

    Yep, those are exactly the types of issue you did NOT bring up when you called me a “Jewish Holocaust hater.”

    Lebanon does not “support” Hezbollah. They do very well on their own. The government of Lebanon is weak and the Army is not very capable. The truth is that they have neither the capacity to succeed nor the will to take the casualties that would follow any attempt to disarmn Hezbollah. That and the fact that many people DO support Hezbollah make them hard for teh government to do much about.

    “Now you change your tune? You stepped in it. Can’t wipe it away that quickly. BTW We think donk are wrong on many policies! ”

    Umm, what tune? My positions are consistent. Israel may have a limited “right” to defend itself but it went far beyond what international agreemtns state are acceptable behaviors in that context. They engaged in collective punishment, for example. Not that Republicans see anything wrong with that.

  178. 1203

    Daddy Love spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 2:55 pm

    Mike Webb Sucks

    “So Daddy Love not a lock step party booster? How about your support for Maria Cantwell?”

    I have supported Maria Cantwell since her first run for Congress, back when I lived in her district in Seattle, before she went to RealNetworks. While I disagree with her in minor ways, overall I approve of her positions and think she is a sound candidate and would be good for our country, as opposed to Mr. Insurance Man.

  179. 1204

    Daddy Love spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 2:59 pm

    Mike Webb Sucks @ 199

    Gee, maybe the Palestinian Authority is having a hard time leading because their leaders have been routinely jailed or asssinated by Israel for years.

  180. 1205

    Daddy Love spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 3:04 pm

    Re: Iran from Juan Cole

    A Persian news agency (link in Persian) reports that President Mahmoud Ahmedinejad said, “Iran is not a threat to any country, and is not in any way a people of intimidation and aggression.” He described Iranians as people of peace and civilization. He said that Iran does not even pose a threat to Israel, and wants to deal with the problem there peacefully, through elections:

    “Weapons research is in no way part of Iran’s program. Even with regard to the Zionist regime, our path to a solution is elections.”

    Ahmadinejad seems to be explaining what his calls for the Zionist regime to be effaced actually mean. He says he doesn’t want violence against Israel, despite its own acts of enmity against Middle Eastern neighbors. I [that is, Juan Cole]interpret his statement on Saturday to be an endorsement of the one-state solution, in which a government would be elected that all Palestinians and all Israelis would jointly vote for. The result would be a government about half made up of Israeli ministers and half of Palestinian ones. Whatever one wanted to call such an arrangement, it wouldn’t exactly be a “Zionist state,” which would thus have been dissolved.

    The schlock Western pundits, journalists and politicians who keep maintaining that Ahmadinejad threatened “to wipe Israel off the map” when he never said those words will never, ever manage to choke out the words Ahmadinejad spoke on Saturday, much less repeat them as a tag line forever after.

  181. 1206

    Daddy Love spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 3:09 pm

    BTW, if you are intersted in what Ahmadinejad actually said about Israel, far from the popularly-reported “wipe Israel off the map,” what Ahmadinejad really did was recall the Ayatollah Khomeini’s words about the Soviet Union in saying, “This occupation regime over Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time.” Ahmadinejad compared his hope for an end to any Zionist regime in geographical Palestine to Khomeini’s prediction that the Soviet Union would one day vanish. It wasn’t a hope to kill Soviet citizens, but a desire for regime change.

    http://www.juancole.com/2006/0.....ole-v.html

  182. 1207

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 8/28/06 at 3:50 pm

    Trash the ‘Compact’
    An attempt to circumvent the Electoral College is really an urban power grab.

    BY PETE DU PONT
    Monday, August 28, 2006 12:01 a.m. EDT

    For more than 200 years America has chosen its presidents as the Constitution provides: through the Electoral College. Traditionally, each state has cast its electoral votes–equal to its total representation in Congress–for the candidate who receives the most votes statewide.

    But last week the California Senate passed legislation to award the state’s Electoral College votes to the candidate who has received the most popular votes nationally–whether Californians chose him or not. A similar bill passed the Assembly on May 30, so it will soon be up to Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger to sign or veto the bill. Such a bill also passed the Colorado Senate in April, part of a national to change the way we choose our presidents. The mandate doesn’t take effect until enough other states sign on to provide a majority of electoral votes. If it were in effect in 2004, George W. Bush would have taken California’s 55 electoral votes, even though John Kerry carried the state by a margin of nearly 10%.

    It is an odd idea, an “interstate compact” switching the Electoral College votes of member states from their state’s vote winner to the national vote winner. And the direct election of presidents would be a political, electoral, and constitutional mistake that would radically change America’s election system.

    First, the direct election of presidents would lead to geographically narrower campaigns, for election efforts would be largely urban. In 2000 Al Gore won 677 counties and George Bush 2,434, but Mr. Gore received more total votes. Circumvent the Electoral College and move to a direct national vote, and those 677 largely urban counties would become the focus of presidential campaigns.
    Rural states like Maine, with its 740,000 votes in 2004, wouldn’t matter much compared with New York’s 7.4 million or California’s 12.4 million votes. Rural states’ issues wouldn’t matter much either; big-city populations and urban issues would become the focus of presidential campaigns. America would be holding urban elections, and that would change the character of campaigns and presidents.

    Second, in any direct national election there would be significant election-fraud concerns. In the 2000 Bush-Gore race, Mr. Gore’s 540,000-vote margin amounted to 3.1 votes in each of the country’s 175,000 precincts. “Finding” three votes per precinct in urban areas is not a difficult thing, or as former presidential scholar and Kennedy advisor Theodore White testified before the Congress in 1970, “There is an almost unprecedented chaos that comes in the system where the change of one or two votes per precinct can switch the national election of the United States.”

    Washington state’s 2004 governor’s race was decided by just 129 votes. A judge found 1,678 illegal votes were cast, and it turned out that 1,200 more votes were counted in Seattle’s King County than the number of people recorded as voting. This affected just Washington state, but in a direct national election where everything hangs on a small number of urban districts, such manipulations could easily decide presidencies.

    Third, direct election would lead to a multicandidate, multiparty system instead of the two-party system we have. Many candidates would run on narrow issues: anti-immigration, pro-gun, environment, national security, antiwar, socialist or labor candidates, for they would have a microphone for their issues. Then there would be political power seekers–Al Sharpton or Michael Moore–and Hollywood pols like Barbra Streisand or Warren Beatty. Even Paris Hilton could advance her career through a presidential campaign.

    For such candidates to run under the present system is very difficult, for they have to win state by state electoral votes. But if all you need is national fame and fortune to win popular votes, many candidates would run and presidential campaigns would become unfocused, confused, and about political advocacy instead of presidential substance.

    Finally, direct election would also lead to weaker presidents. There are no run-offs in the Interstate Compact–that would require either a constitutional amendment or the agreement of all 50 states and the District of Columbia–so the highest percentage winner, no matter how small (perhaps 25% or 30% in a six- or eight-candidate field) would become president. Such a winner would not have an Electoral College majority and therefore not be seen as a legitimate president.

    So rather that trying to eviscerate the Electoral College, we should be embracing it. It was put in the Constitution to allow states to choose presidents, for we are a republic based on the separation of powers, not a direct democracy. And the Electoral College–just like the Senate–was intended to protect the residents of small states. As James Madison said, the Electoral College included the will of the nation–every congressional district gets an electoral vote–and “the will of the states in their distinct and independent capacities” since every state gets two additional electors.

    And might not the direct-election Interstate Compact lead to other similar efforts? California’s Sen. Dianne Feinstein says the Electoral College violates “one person, one vote,” and so we should have direct election of the president. But the equal allocation of two senators to each state also violates “one person, one vote.” Montana, with 900,000 people, gets two senators and so does California with 34 million, so Feinstein’s logic would say that California should have 12 senators, and Maine, New Hampshire and Vermont should share just one among them.
    Might not “one person, one vote” allow a national vote to amend the Constitution instead of requiring approval by three-quarters of the states? To restrict freedom of speech, or expand searches and seizures, or modify any of the Bill of Rights?

    One wonders if the direct election of presidents is really the beginning of an effort to bring national government under the control of large and liberal states. Common Cause, a Washington-based lobbying group that describes itself as “promoting open, honest and accountable government,” argues “how neatly it fits with American tradition.” But it doesn’t. It contradicts our constitutional republic’s state and federal government sharing of powers. Choosing presidents is one of our states’ powers, and we should not remove it to begin a centralized national American government.

    Mr. du Pont, a former governor of Delaware, is chairman of the Dallas-based National Center for Policy Analysis. His column appears once a month.

  183. 1208

    Harry Tuttle spews:

    Tuesday, 8/29/06 at 2:12 am

    Someone from DE likes the Electoral College. What a surprise.

  184. 1209

    refinancing home mortgage mortgage investor spews:

    Wednesday, 9/13/06 at 1:03 am

    advisee Micky revere:traversed breadwinner wholeness legislators electrician?

  185. 1210

    mortgage rate spews:

    Wednesday, 9/13/06 at 1:05 am

    rogue shortness.grand,Westmore?pretense?…

  186. 1211

    refinance mortgage bad credit house mortgage loan spews:

    Wednesday, 9/13/06 at 1:07 am

    osteopathic dale?critter legislating contractor.wildcat smoke .

“The David Goldstein Show” tonight on Newsradio 710-KIRO

by Goldy — Sunday, 8/13/06, 5:33 pm

Sure it might be tempting to sit outdoors tonight, enjoying our beautiful summer weather, but are you nuts? You could be hit by one of those meteors! So come inside, turn up the radio and tune in to “The David Goldstein Show tonight on Newsradio 710-KIRO, from 7PM to 10PM.

7PM: Within hours of the revelation that British police had foiled a terrorist plot to blow up 10 airplanes over the Atlantic, Republicans were busy exploiting fear for political gain. Again. I invited Rep. Dave Reichert to join me to talk about our government’s appropriate response to terrorism, but apparently he’s afraid to come on my show. So Democratic challenger Darcy Burner will join me instead to talk about what we’re doing right and wrong in our so-called “War on Terror.”

8PM: Hey… wouldn’t it be great to get a free, zero-interest, $1.275 million mortgage? That’s what SAFECO gave former CEO Mike McGavick to entice him to move back to Seattle. And yet, rather than paying back SAFECO shareholders for their largesse, McGavick just lent his Senate campaign a cool $2 million. Washington State Democratic Chair Dwight Pelz will be joining me, and you can be sure I’ll be pumping him for a few choice soundbites. And if you are a SAFECO shareholder, employee (current or ex) or policyholder, please call in and give me your take on whether Mike!™ earned his exclamation mark, let alone his fortune.

9PM: Incumbent US Senators never lose primaries. That is, until the netroots-fueled campaign of Ned Lamont defeated 3-term incumbent Joe Lieberman Tuesday in Connecticut. Does this election signal the ascendancy of the blogosphere? The decline of the Democratic Party? Or simply the fact that a majority of Connecticut voters are sick and tired of Joe being used as a tool to prop up the Bush administration’s failed policies at home and abroad? Will from Pike Place Politics will join me in the studio take your calls and give you his opinion.

Tune in tonight (or listen to the live stream) and give me a call: 1-877-710-KIRO (5476).

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  1. 1212

    Daniel K spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 5:42 pm

    Sounds like a great line-up Goldy – once again!

  2. 1213

    Dan Rather-Whats the frequen spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 5:45 pm

    Before I forget:

    Exclusive.

    Was the Jew killer a conservative or liberal. In the Seattle Times we have the following quote:

    Haq’s friend said he couldn’t believe the timid, “geeky” man he knew from the tutoring center was capable of such violence.

    “Are you sure we’re talking about the same person?” he said Sunday………….

    He said Haq was not a devout Muslim and often complained that the Tri-Cities were too politically conservative.

    “I’m beginning to think I was his only friend in the Tri-Cities. I don’t recall him hanging out with anybody else.”

    Now for the other side we turn to Goldy’s story from last week:

    Psssssssssstttttttt…….

    Ah it looks like the story was all a bunch of hot air. Well there you have it. Enjoy all you Nazi Libs.

  3. 1214

    skinnyfreak spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 6:02 pm

    #2 is an idiot troll!

    You love conflict don’t you?

    Maybe you should put your energy where your mouth is. Get your lying monkeys sons’ of bitches reelected for two more years.

    I dare you!

  4. 1215

    skagit spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 6:10 pm

    Goldy . . . please keep sharp and to the point. You don’t have much time and you you just have to keep your own comments limited. Listen, comment, let Will comment . . . and keep it moving. (But don’t cut people off . . .cut yourself off!)

    Yeah, yeay . . . what do I know? I’m a loyal radio addict and I know. Trust me, please.

  5. 1216

    Dan Rather-Whats the frequen spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 6:12 pm

    3
    You love conflict don’t you?

    Commentby skinnyfreak— 8/13/06@ 6:02 pm

    Nah, just the truth. Lefties = The real Nazis

  6. 1217

    skagit spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 6:22 pm

    OMG! If ever anyone has exhibited their own ignorance, Dan Rudderless,aka redneck,aka kennedy just did! Have you no shame whatsoever?

  7. 1218

    For the Clueless spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 6:40 pm

    Nah, just the truth.

    How Orwellian. Here’s the DOOFUS political philosophy:

    War is Peace – continuous, eternal war. A billion people dead.
    Freedom is Slavery – cheap labor conservatism, Wal-Mart wages.
    Ignorance is Strength – a TOTAL addiction to right-wing lies.

    Yes, our boy DOOFUS has been drinking the wingnut kool-aid for so long he’s beyond all hope.

  8. 1219

    My Left Foot spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 7:19 pm

    “I’ve reminded the prime minister-the American people, Mr. Prime Minister, over the past months that it was not always a given that the United States and America would have a close relationship.” –George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., June 29, 2006

    If it true that God blesses and protects fools, GWB is line for some great rewards. If in fact God does not suffer fools, I personally believe this to be true, GWB is in a lot of trouble. No wonder his own party tries to distance themselves from him.

    Carl Grossman
    Democrat, Proud and JCH can kiss my white, Democratic, Jewish ass!

  9. 1220

    Mark The Redneck spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 7:29 pm

    Hey Goldy -See if you can get Senator Dimbulb on so she can share her feelings about terrorism. I’m sure she can deliver her usual insightful “tennis shoes on the ground” analysis of complex global policy issues.

  10. 1221

    Mark The Redneck spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 7:29 pm

    I crack myself up sometimes. “Tennis shoes on the ground”… LMAO….

  11. 1222

    skagit spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 7:30 pm

    Well, anything she has to say will make more sense than what you just said.

  12. 1223

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 7:34 pm

    Democrat, Proud and JCH can kiss my white, Democratic, Jewish ass!

    Commentby My Left Foot [………………………………………………………………………..Jewish Left Foot, Any IDF time IAF? Any US military time? [No? Gee, what a fucking surprise!] Yeah, like Miss Goldie and the children, you are a bitcher and moaner, but you need the fighting the REAL MEN. Silly and pussy Miss Goldie and Miss My Left Foot! Maybe you could throw you purses at the Muslim terrorists!]

  13. 1224

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 7:39 pm

    Carl Grossman
    Democrat, Proud and JCH can kiss my white, Democratic, Jewish ass!
    [………………………………………………………………Carl Grossmanstein, Maybe Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi will “protect” your “white, sissy, Democrat Jewish ass!” Maybe Miss Goldie will take the depositions of the Muslin terrorists so a pussy like you won’t be afraid! Note: REAL Jewish heros are serving in the IDF and IAF. Goldie and My Left Foot are posting “I hate Bush” threads!]

  14. 1225

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 7:40 pm

    Havana–Fidel Castro’s 80th birthday, on August 13th, will be celebrated in downtown Harlem, next Monday. Father Barrios said that in addition to paying homage to Cuba and Fidel, afternoon festivities will feature a wide variety of topics including current events in Lebanon, Venezuela and Puerto Rico, US immigration, the war against Iraq, and those who are looking forward to the impeachment of George W. Bush. […………………….The Democrat “Enemy From within”! Not a Republican within miles of these human vermin.]

  15. 1226

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 7:41 pm

    MEN: Man your battle stations!!! Women, children, Miss Goldie and My Left Foot: Into the life boats!!!

  16. 1227

    darcy\'s my gal spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 7:47 pm

    Wow She really hates Bush! Steve thinks bush and bin laden are brothers.

    She is going to investigate the bush admin if she becomes senator. she promises.

  17. 1228

    darcy\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s my gal spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 7:48 pm

    oops congresswoman

  18. 1229

    Mark The Redneck spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 7:53 pm

    Let me get this straight:

    If SAFECO gives it’s CEO a loan that’s bad.

    If the University of Washington uses taxpaying Producer money to give a lying sack of shit football coach an even bigger “loan” where there is no interest payment and NO PRINCIPAL payment that’s OK.

    http://www.washington.edu/alum.....eisel.html

    Just checking…

  19. 1230

    SeattleDan spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 8:24 pm

    Too many trolls, too little time. Get a life, boys.

  20. 1231

    americafirst spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 8:29 pm

    Goldie, when a moonbat who blames Israel for Islamofascist terrorism calls in please don’t cut him off so fast. Get used to it; self-hating Jew Soros is the future of liberalism. Don’t say I didn’t warn you:

    Too bad there are not enough honest libs left to save the Dems from takeover by the Christian-hating, Bush-hating Soros types who have bought and now own modern liberalism;

    “George Soros told a carefully vetted gathering of 70 likeminded millionaires and billionaires last weekend that they must be patient if they want to realize long-term political and ideological yields from an expected massive investment in “startup” progressive think tanks.”
    Source:http://www.hillnews.com/thehil.....soros.html

    Self-hating Jews like Soros will insanely and instinctively attack an evangelical Christian president (Bush) who believes that Jews have a God-given right to Israel; at the same time self-hating Jews will preach understanding and accomodation of Islamofascists, because Islamofascists will, if accomodated, complete the Final Solution of the Jewish problem.

    A second Holocaust is the self-hating Jew’s dream, therefore a self-hating Jew like Soros will always direct his attacks against evangelical Christians like Bush(and sane Jews like Lieberman)and preach tolerance for Moslems. Bush-hatred among liberals is too obvious to require any further demonstration; the Soros approach of treating Christians as the main enemy is also gradually becoming mainstream liberalism,(see a couple of HA examples below):

    “How about putting him and all his Republican buddies in a shipping container and sending them to Jesusland. We don’t need his ilk around here.”
    Comment by Roger Rabbit — 10/27/05 @ 9:38 am

    “Someone will take the fall with book contracts and jobs in Jesusland or presidential pardons in the pipeline.”
    Comment by For the Clueless — 10/7/05 @ 8:24 pm

    Unsurprisingly,libs blame America and blame Israel for Islamofascist terrorism. Unsurprisingly, libs oppose measures to combat Islamofascists such as the Patriot Act and domestic surveilance(the importance of which was recently demonstrated by the Brits). To modern libs, Christians(and sane Jews) are the main enemy.

  21. 1232

    For the Clueless spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 8:47 pm

    fascistfirst @ 20 – You are bat-shit crazy!

  22. 1233

    killatroll/saveablog spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 8:50 pm

    @21 Hmmmm. And your first clue about BatshitCrazyFirst was. . . . .?

  23. 1234

    For the Clueless spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 8:56 pm

    22 – The guy is massively paranoid. Soros – ooohhhhh – how scary. The guy just repeats the freeper/wingut delusions.

  24. 1235

    killatroll/saveablog spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 8:57 pm

    Brian Styble It’s Just BAD Radio!

  25. 1236

    killatroll/saveablog spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 9:00 pm

    The chorus of psychotic Freepers and Wingnuts will grow louder and shriller as it starts to sink in that they really are in the minority.

  26. 1237

    Dan Rather-Whats the frequen spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 9:17 pm

    The chorus of psychotic Freepers and Wingnuts will grow louder and shriller as it starts to sink in that they really are in the minority.

    Commentby killatroll/saveablog— 8/13/06@ 9:00 pm

    Yeah right. Try telling that to the execs at See BS and the rest of the MSM. HEhe.. Well we can dream anyway. Courage Killatroll, courage.

  27. 1238

    killatroll/saveablog spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 9:22 pm

    GormlessDan@26 Tell it to the voters in Connecticut.

  28. 1239

    Dr. E spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 9:23 pm

    “To modern libs, Christians(and sane Jews) are the main enemy.”

    No, actually it’s the GOP attempt to create an anti-democratic, anti-Constitutional, corporate-controlled, neo-feudal fascist state that is the enemy. That’s why we’ve got to shit-can all these corporate whores that call themselves politicians.

  29. 1240

    Dr. E spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 9:25 pm

    What pisses a good number of liberals off is the fact that so many Republicans are apparently too ignorant to realize what their government is becoming — and already has become — right in front of their very own eyes.

    If anyone is going to save this republic, it sure as hell ain’t gonna be the GOP.

  30. 1241

    killatroll/saveablog spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 9:31 pm

    There is of course, the famous poem, ascribed to Martin Niemoller(sorry can’t do the umlaut)
    “First they came to take the Jews. . .”

  31. 1242

    Mark The Redneck spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 9:35 pm

    Hey E – Any luck on your wacko WTC theory? Are you even looking into the possibility that FUCKING PLANES HITTING THEM had something to do with the collapse?

    Also, do you try to explain how all those holes got drilled, charges installed, wires run, and detonated at exactly the right time without anybody noticing?

    And can you give me a report on how many angels can dance on the head of a pin? Just wondering…

    Dumass…

  32. 1243

    killatroll/saveablog spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 9:46 pm

    Didn’t they cover that SU? ‘Course, that was also probably in the class you missed about paying your debts,Retardo Mark.

  33. 1244

    sgmmac spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 9:50 pm

    Unfortunately, DR E, that would be every elected official, both Democrat and Republican. They all are feeding at the lobbyist trough in some way, shape or form.

  34. 1245

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 9:53 pm

    Will Senator Chuckie “BOY” Schumer thank George Bush’s NSA, CIA, and FBI for saving his family? Noooooooooooo….Chuckie Boy is bitching and moaning like the NYC Democrat he is about the flight delays from Heathrow. Typical liberal bitching Democrat POS.

  35. 1246

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 9:54 pm

    Carl Grossman
    Democrat, Proud and JCH can kiss my white, Democratic, Jewish ass!
    [………………………………………………………………Carl Grossmanstein, Maybe Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi will “protect” your “white, sissy, Democrat Jewish ass!” Maybe Miss Goldie will take the depositions of the Muslin terrorists so a pussy like you won’t be afraid! Note: REAL Jewish heros are serving in the IDF and IAF. Goldie and My Left Foot are posting “I hate Bush” threads!]

  36. 1247

    skagit spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 9:56 pm

    Yes, they are and have been for a very long time. So, Smeg and Dr. E. what do we do about it?

  37. 1248

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 9:56 pm

    Miss Goldie and My Left Foot will not have time to post as they are busy fighting with the REAL JEWISH MEN in the IDF. Oh wait……………………………….They aren’t?…………………………..Never mind. Rosanna Rosannadana [SNL]

  38. 1249

    skagit spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 9:56 pm

    Gawd, jch, hasn’t the dog catcher caught you yet?

  39. 1250

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 9:58 pm

    DR “E”, DR JCH here!! Any “inside” word on if Geoage Bush was helping the muuuuuuuuuslims bomb the 10 airplanes last week? An “insider” like you can tell us, can’t you? hehe, DR JCH

  40. 1251

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 9:58 pm

    Gawd, jch, hasn’t the dog catcher caught you yet?

    Commentby skagit [skigit, You are soooooo funny for an enlisted man.]

  41. 1252

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 9:59 pm

    Quick, Miss Goldie! Take the terrorist’s depositions!!! Show them that you mean business!

  42. 1253

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 10:01 pm

    “But what about the privacy rights of the Muslim terrorists?” REP Nancy Pelosi and SEN Harry Reid, DEMOCRATS

  43. 1254

    JDB spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 10:04 pm

    JCH at 12:

    Any IDF time IAF? Any US military time? [No? Gee, what a fucking surprise!]

    Now, you are really no one to talk. You know that wearing a cracker-jack suit and “servicing a sailor” doesn’t make you a military man. No matter how many you service.

    Oh, and by the way, have you appologised yet for lying and saying that Hillary called Dick Morris a “Jew Bastard?” Surely, somewhere in that tiny street hustler mind you are man enough to admit when you are wrong.

  44. 1255

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedy spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 10:05 pm

    You mean to tell me la goldie with the sing-song up-down down-up music voice annoying talk thing she does still has a radio job??? Good God, does that station have a failure wish???

    Anyone know what, if any, la goldie’s Arbitron numbers are? Does she actually get REAL callers or does she just talk to herself?

    Only in SanFranseattle.

  45. 1256

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 10:18 pm

    Oh, and by the way, have you appologised yet for lying and saying that Hillary called Dick Morris a “Jew Bastard?”
    Commentby JDB […………………………………………………The quote was “FUCKING JEW BASTARD”!! Ask Dick Morris. He was quite clear on FOX’s Hannity and Colmes. Finally, 7 years active in the USN. 1 year reserve. AND YOU???? Yeah, I thought so. Go into the lifeboats with Miss Goldie, My Left Footstein, and the children!]

  46. 1257

    killatroll/saveablog spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 10:26 pm

    Having been caught in a lie about your “service” once already, Craig now you want us to believe your latest claim. . .?

  47. 1258

    JDB spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 10:30 pm

    Americafirst at 20:

    Wow using the Richard Melon Scaife funded Frontpage to attack anyone, especially sorros, really seems kind of foolish, doesn’t it. (Oh, and he’s gay, so booga-booga to you, at least Sorros is all man).

    Second, you really should get the truth, instead of listening to proven liars. Here, you can start with this:

    http://mediamatters.org/items/200608020003

    and this:

    http://mediamatters.org/items/200608020003

    or this:

    http://mediamatters.org/items/200608090013

    Third:

    You do realize that Jesus land means “Red America,” not Israel/Palistine/The Middle East in the context you have quoted. Come on, you can hardly forget this:

    http://politicalhumor.about.co.....usland.htm

    I mean, I know you are dumb, but really….,

  48. 1259

    Richard Pope spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 10:31 pm

    UNDERASSESSMENT IN THE HIGHLANDS

    I looked at Mike McGavick’s property records (Assessor Parcel No. 3304700290) because Goldy pointed out this $1,275,000 mortgage. You can’t tell what the interest rate is from the King County recordings (since promissory notes aren’t recorded, just the deed of trust), but this was one of two loans — the first mortgage being a market rate loan for $1,925,000 — that the McGavicks took out when their home purchase in The Highlands was recored on July 2, 2001 for $4,475,000.

    By the way, record title to the McGavicks’ home is not held by the McGavick’s personally, but by “John F. Donohue, III, Trustee of the Scimitar Trust of 2001”. (Scimitar, noun, a saber having a curved blade with the edge on the convex side and used chiefly by Arabs and Turks)

    What was really interesting was the property tax assessment of the McGavicks’ home by the King County Department of Assessments — in light of the property being sold for $4,475,000 on July 2, 2001:

    2001 — $2,726,000
    2002 — $2,922,000
    2003 — $3,117,000
    2004 — $3,261,000
    2005 — $3,424,000
    2006 — $3,715,000
    2007 — $3,669,000

    There is a lag time is assessments, of course. For example, the 2007 assessment (which was calculated this year 2006 for property taxes to be paid in 2007) is based upon a statistical analysis using sales data from 2004 and 2005.

    So the 2003 assessment for $3,117,000 was based on sales data from 2000 and 2001. And the 2004 assessment for $3,261,000 was based on sales data from 2001 and 2002.

    Normally, the assessed value of residential property results in an assessment level of 98% to 99%. That means that houses assessed for 2004, which sold in 2001 and 2002, were assessed at an average of 98% to 99% of the sales price.

    McGavick’s house, on the other hand, which sold in 2001, had an assessment level for 2003 of 69.7% and an assessment level for 2004 of 72.9%.

    I presume that other homes in The Highlands are similarly underassessed at about the same rate as the McGavick’s residence.

    Given that the property tax rate in Shoreline is around $12.00 per $1,000, and that the average residence in The Highlands is worth $4 million or more (and likely underassessed by $1 million or more), the property owners in The Highlands are each saving well over $10,000 per year in property taxes, compared with what would happen if they were assessed at 98% to 99% of value.

    Don’t blame me for this situation:

    http://www.metrokc.gov/electio......htm#cand2

    Ironically enough, I carried The Highlands (SHL 32-0514) in that election — in spite of the fact that the homeowners there were getting an extremely good break from the incumbent.

  49. 1260

    JDB spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 10:31 pm

    Dan Limbaugh @ 2:

    You keep forgetting the punchline of your post. He was a fine liberal person until he was baptised by a wingnut church. Then he decides to shoot a bunch of jews.

    From your own post, this is the only conclusion.

    So why do you keep forgetting to post the one thing that changed in Haq before he shot up the place? Why are you afraid of the truth.

  50. 1261

    JDB spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 10:33 pm

    Boy oh boy, the wingnuts are out in force. Apparently they retract into their Mom’s basements when the weather gets good.

    And when, oh when, will Mark the Yellowback and JCH just admit their mutual attraction to one another and go their racist/misogynistic way?

  51. 1262

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 10:34 pm

    JDB, Will you join Miss Goldie and Miss My Left Footstein and hit the terrorists with your purses?? Typical pussy Democrat libs.

  52. 1263

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 10:35 pm

    53, Democrat hero “Tookie” Williams misses your rectum. Do you miss his?

  53. 1264

    JDB spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 10:41 pm

    JCH you tired old queer you:

    Again, blowing Indonesian sailors doesn’t count as “active in the USN.” We’ve talked about this. As to the rest of your delusions, it is insteresting how often you show how stupid you are.

    And can you find a single citation for your claim about Dick Morris? Hell, it is only the world wide web, you would think that a search would turn up something…., Oh, it doesn’t, does it. Come on, you would think that you could find a Freeper blog to support your claim, but you can’t, can you. That is because you are lying!

    I guess a life of blowing sailors means that you have no honor and cannot admit when you are lying. What a pitiful little wench you are

    I guess a life of blowing sailors means that you have no honor and cannot admit when you are lying. What a pittiful little wench you are.

  54. 1265

    JDB spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 10:42 pm

    Wow, JCH, thanks for posting again about anal sex and proving my point, you really are a pitiful old queer.

  55. 1266

    Dr. E spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 10:43 pm

    33

    “Unfortunately, DR E, that would be every elected official, both Democrat and Republican. They all are feeding at the lobbyist trough in some way, shape or form.”

    I wouldn’t say every, just most. Legalized bribery in the form of institutionalized lobbying is the single largest corruption of our constitutional democracy. I don’t see how this is an “unfortunate” situation, though. If government is rotten to the core, and I think it essentially is, then it is our responsibility as citizens to rectify the situation.

  56. 1267

    Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 10:44 pm

    Richard@51 The Assesors are not allowed access to the Highlands. (this may have changed in the past couple of years, but I don’t think so.) At one point, and I believe Hoppe initiated this, they started ‘fly-overs in a helicopter. . .
    A class-mate of mine’s family lost their house to fire because the FD couldn’t find the house. . .Subsequently. the Fire and Aid were allowed in to the Highlands about once a month to familiarize themselves with the layout. A complicating factor is that there are no “addresses” inside the Highlands. This led to a break with the PO, and they now employ their own postal worker.

  57. 1268

    pbj spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 10:46 pm

    “Washington State Democratic Chair Dwight Pelz will be joining me, and you can be sure I’ll be pumping him…”

    Uh, we really don’t want to hear about your love affair Goldstein.

  58. 1269

    Dr. E spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 10:50 pm

    31

    You back again? ‘Swrong wif you, fool? Like I toldja last time, don’t come back until you’ve done your homework. You only had to watch a wee little video. You don’t even need to be literate for that. If you can’t get a good internet connection at the trailer park, go down to your socialized book repository (i.e. the library).

    I expect a full report tonight, “Dumass” [sic]*. No more excuses.

    *Mark el Retardo still doesn’t know how to spell “dumbass”, nor has he ever heard of Alexandre Dumas. Most of all, he is utterly impervious to anything that challenges his critically flawed world view (if you could really call it that).

  59. 1270

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 10:50 pm

    This ex-Safeco policy holder says: McGavick ain’t worth a plugged nickel.

  60. 1271

    Dr. E spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 10:52 pm

    39

    Shit, Craig, since you’ve promoted yourself to “Doctor” now, I’m sure you could enlighten us all. Didja get your degree the same place Samuel Kenyon Doe got his? (Do you even know who he was? No googling, be honest.)

  61. 1272

    Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 10:57 pm

    Richard@51 Additionally, a lot of those piles of brick and stone aren’t that wonderful. Some have been modernized, some upgraded, some newly constructed, and some straight out of The Fall of the House of Usher. In one instance the “Gate House”, a three bedroom rambler was a preferred residence to the three storey monstrosity behind it. . .the one with the leaky roof and bad drains. . . .

  62. 1273

    Richard Pope spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 11:00 pm

    TreeFrogFarmer @ 59

    Thanks for the info.

    RCW 84.41.041 requires a physical inspection of all taxable real property in the county at least every six years (and King County has a six year plan for all residential property):

    http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/def.....=84.41.041

    Almost every house is assessed by an exterior, walk-by inspection — the deputy assessor takes pictures, makes notes, etc. while going up and down the streets.

  63. 1274

    Dr. E spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 11:01 pm

    2

    Dan probably thinks the Nazis were a left-wing organization.

  64. 1275

    skagit spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 11:05 pm

    Ah, but El Retardo has four (cuatro) useless patents sitting in his basement drawer . . . he’s so proud of them. Let’s all stand up and cheer for the erstwhile inventor who couldn’t . . .

  65. 1276

    Richard Pope spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 11:06 pm

    Wow — there is no recorded plat map for The Highlands to find out where houses are located. And the legal descriptions appear to be based upon private markers and monuments located inside The Highlands. But there is a King County Assessor map of The Highlands at least:

    http://www.metrokc.gov/assesso.....132603.pdf

  66. 1277

    Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 11:07 pm

    Richard@65 Yeah, but ya gotta get past the front gate. No tickee, No Washee.

  67. 1278

    Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 11:10 pm

    Richard@68 They’ve established a sort of equilibrium with the Assesor. . .this may be apocryphal, but again, when Hoppe started the flyovers they overassesed the hell out of things and made them come into court to negotiate the charges down. . . . .

  68. 1279

    Richard Pope spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 11:17 pm

    Anything juicy in the recorded conditions, covenants and restrictions in The Highlands? Such as restraints on alienation?

  69. 1280

    Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 11:23 pm

    @71 HUH?

  70. 1281

    Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 11:27 pm

    Um, it is complicated investigating traffic accidents inside the boundaries, since they are private roads.

  71. 1282

    Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 11:30 pm

    As to the market value of the homes. . . it’s not really a free market! Mike! was obviously vetted for purchase by virtue of his association with both Safeco and Skeletor.

  72. 1283

    Richard Pope spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 11:33 pm

    The Highlands By-Laws are a 46 page document that was re-written completely in 1996 and recorded under Auditor File No. 199612231398. There is a 4 page amendment to The Highlands By-Laws made in 1998 and recorded under Auditor File No. 199809091463.

    Nothing juicy — probably because the original by-laws of The Highlands didn’t make it extremely difficult to amend. By contrast, Innis Arden (just north of The Highlands) has some highly offensive deed restrictions on the type of people those lots can be sold to. Legally unenforceable, but highly offensive, and they never could get enough property owners in Innis Arden to sign off on eliminating these. So the legislature recently passed a law to facilitate the elimination of such offensive and unenforceable deed restrictions.

  73. 1284

    Richard Pope spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 11:35 pm

    So what happens when law enforcement is called to The Highlands? It is in Shoreline, which contracts with the King County Sheriff for law enforcement (although most deputies drive Shoreline cop cars and wear Shoreline uniforms).

  74. 1285

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 11:38 pm

    5 YEARS IN LOCKUP; NO CHARGES; NO COMPENSATION

    Last week, without fanfare, the Bush administration released an innocent man it had locked up and physically abused for 5 years.

    “9/11 Detainee Released After Nearly Five Years
    “By TOM HAYS, AP

    “TORONTO (Aug. 13) – The date was Sept. 12, 2001, but Benemar ‘Ben’ Benatta was clueless …. About a week before, Canadian officials had stopped Benatta as he entered the country from Buffalo to seek political asylum. On that Sept. 11, he was quietly transferred to a U.S. immigration lockup where a day passed before sullen FBI agents told him … terrorists had attacked the World Trade Center and Pentagon.

    “It slowly dawned on Benatta that his pedigree – a Muslim man with a military background – made him a target in the frenzied national dragnet that soon followed. The FBI didn’t accuse him of being a terrorist, at least not outright. But agents kept asking if he could fly an airplane. He told them he couldn’t. It made no difference. … The veiled accusations and vehement denials would continue for nearly five years – despite official findings in 2001 that he had no terrorist links and in 2003 that authorities had violated his rights by colluding to keep him in custody. …

    His Kafkaesque journey through the American justice system concluded July 20 (2006) when a deal was finalized for his return to Canada. … On Sept. 16, U.S. marshals took him into custody … and flew him to a federal jail in Brooklyn that became a clearing house for detainees who were labeled ‘of interest’ to the FBI following the Sept. 11 attacks (where) … he was locked down … 24 hours a day between FBI interrogations. …

    “Prison guards, he said, … rapp(ed) on his cell door every half hour to interrupt his sleep, stepp(ed) on his leg shackles hard enough to scar his ankles, lock(ed) him in an outdoor exercise cage despite freezing temperatures, conduct(ed) arbitrary strip searches. …

    “The FBI grillings stopped sometime in November 2001, when an internal report was prepared saying he was cleared. On paper, he was no longer a terror suspect. No one bothered to tell him. … It wasn’t until the second anniversary of the attacks that U.S. Magistrate H. Kenneth Schroeder Jr., in a bluntly worded ruling, found that Benatta’s detainment for a deportation hearing was ‘a charade.’

    “Though terrible, the Sept. 11 attacks ‘do not constitute an acceptable basis for abandoning our constitutional principles and rule of law by adopting an “end justifies the means” philosophy,’ Schroeder wrote. Based on that decision, another judge tossed out the case on Oct. 3, 2003. … His hopes were dashed …. An immigration court … ruled he should stay behind bars indefinitely …. It took another two years before a Manhattan attorney … convinced Canadian authorities to let her client apply for asylum there ….

    “The last (9/11) detainee was deported in his prison smock without an apology.”

    This story is quoted under the Fair Use Doctrine; for complete article and/or copyright info, see http://tinyurl.com/nm9jq

    Roger Rabbit comment: Yesterday, I posted on HA that I plan to vote for Richard Pope for district court judge because neither of the other candidates for the position are suitable to occupy a bench.

    The incumbent, Mary Ann Ottinger, is so bad she was suspended without pay by the state Supreme Court last month. Ottinger repeatedly violated the rights of defendants, even after previously being disciplined for it. Her most egregious abuse of power involved sentencing a juvenile girl to 375 days in an adult jail for an underage drinking offense not involving driving — without telling the girl she was entitled to an attorney.

    The founding fathers — who risked their homes, property, and lives to throw off tyranny — understood when they wrote the Constitution that the greatest potenntial threat to our liberty is not foreign enemies but our own government. They wrote the Constitution and Bill of Rights to prevent abuses of power.

    Beorge W. Bush should not be president for the same reason Mary Ann Ottinger should not be a judge. Neither of them takes the Constitution seriously or respects the rights it enshrines. Both placed themselves above the law and abused the power entrusted to them.

    I endorsed Richard Pope for district court judge because, even though I disagree with many of his political opinions, his comments on this board evince both a competent knowledge of law and a respect for the constitutional rights of accused persons. Richard understands — even if many of our resident trolls do not — that these rights do not exist to protect the guilty, but to protect the innocent from mistakes or overreaching by the very government officials the trolls say they do not trust. In Ottinger’s and Bush’s cases, their mistrust is well placed.

  75. 1286

    americafirst spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 11:39 pm

    50, a response by Horowitz to the Soros-funded Mediamatters version is found at
    :http://www.frontpagemagazine.c.....p?ID=23696

  76. 1287

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 11:43 pm

    61

    Redneck should be required to pay Goldy the $100 he owes him before being allowed access to this board.

  77. 1288

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 11:44 pm

    Redneck is what some people call “an educated derelict.” Despite having four degrees, he’s still a dumbass.

  78. 1289

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 11:45 pm

    For example, in a previous thread Redneck said tax cuts always increase federal revenue. To wit:

    2000 – $1,372,376,000,000 (baseline year)
    2001 – $1,297,063,000,000
    2002 – $1,152,413,000,000
    2003 – $1,069,364,000,000

    Source of data: http://tinyurl.com/ahdfm

  79. 1290

    Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 11:47 pm

    @76 You know, that’s a good question. Entry is by invitation/permission. Obvously there’s a little thing like ‘close pursuit’, but I’m not sure anything like that has actually transpired. Entry by warrant of course, but again, outside my ken. They really don’t want anyone like that living there. Since a great deal of ‘business’ of that sort is conducted as part of the ownership committee, and not by covenant, it would be hard to track.

  80. 1291

    Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 11:52 pm

    Hmm, they are kind of tightass in Innis Arden. Which probably explains why the Alhadeff’s lived south of there in LandoverSound.

  81. 1292

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 11:52 pm

    51

    “By the way, record title to the McGavicks’ home is not held by the McGavick’s personally, but by ‘John F. Donohue, III, Trustee of the Scimitar Trust of 2001′. (Scimitar, noun, a saber having a curved blade with the edge on the convex side and used chiefly by Arabs and Turks)”

    You could have added, “for beheadings.”

    How interesting that the McGavicks named the trust holding legal title to their multimillion-dollar gated-community home after the sword used by (to borrow a phrase from Redneck) towelheads to cut peoples’ heads off.

    If this guy wants to be a U.S. Senator, he needs a better public relations adviser.

  82. 1293

    skagit spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 11:53 pm

    I attended a party there once – awesome house with a view that went on forever!

    Also, I heard that the big house on 3rd NW right outside the gate was built by an wealthy individual who wasn’t allowed into the Highlands . . . so he build right outside. Rumor anyway. . .

  83. 1294

    skagit spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 11:54 pm

    Go to bed, Wabbit.

  84. 1295

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 8/13/06 at 11:54 pm

    64

    Before I shelled out 5 million bucks for a house, I’d have it inspected and require the seller to put a new roof on it.

  85. 1296

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 8/14/06 at 12:01 am

    71

    “Restraints on alienations” refers to deed restrictions on who you can sell your property to. For example, “no property owner may sell his home to a Democrat” would be a restraint on alienation. My understanding is anyone buying into the Highlands has to be approved by the homeowners’ association, like getting into a country club or fraternity, but I may be wrong.

    I also read somewhere, years ago, that the Highlands precinct had the highest concentration of communist voters in the state. Guess who the live-in servants were voting for …

  86. 1297

    Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    Monday, 8/14/06 at 12:04 am

    Um, it seems to me, about fifteen years ago there was a Donahue living in the complex.
    There seems to be somewhere in my memory the scuttlebutt that it is hard to get total ownership/control of your property. There were about three hundred original families, but anyone subsequent to that gets pretty severely vetted.

  87. 1298

    Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    Monday, 8/14/06 at 12:06 am

    Also, I believe you have to be admitted into the Seattle Golf and Country Club to live there. May in fact be a requirement. . .

  88. 1299

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 8/14/06 at 12:07 am

    86

    “Go to bed, Wabbit.” Commentby skagit— 8/13/06@ 11:54 pm

    I don’t take orders from you. You’re not my mother. (My mother is dead. She was run over by a speeding SUV on Green Lake Way driven by a Republican.)

  89. 1300

    Richard Pope spews:

    Monday, 8/14/06 at 12:16 am

    Looking at The Highlands By-Laws, it seems like there are at least two significant restraints on alienation.

    First, if you want to sell your property, any existing Highlands club member, or The Highlands club itself, has the right of first refusal. And the first refusal right to purchase is set at the appraised value determined by club appraisers, as opposed to the price you may want to sell the property for.

    Second, your prospective purchaser had better become a club member. New membership is open to people who have binding purchase contracts (which naturally would be contingent upon membership approval). So if membership isn’t approved for the prospective purchaser, they basically have no meaningful rights to their property — which is why purchase contracts are contingent.

    If you actually manage to sell your property to a person rejected for membership — and The Highlands club doesn’t exercise its right of first refusal — the new owner would be prohibited from accessing the property (can’t use the private roads, etc.) and wouldn’t be able to receive any utilities.

    However, there is nothing in The Highlands By-Laws providing for beheading anyone with a scimitar …

  90. 1301

    GS spews:

    Monday, 8/14/06 at 12:24 am

    GOP voters in connecticut (and GOP donations from all across the country) will easily give Joe Lieberman the boost he deserves (out of respect for this fine statesman I might add) and he will sail easily past Lamont by election day.

    Lamont is not a centrist as Goldy the snake oil salesman is touting, he cannot even see the center from where he spews.

    Even Al Gore had it right when he picked the statesman Joe for his VP, and if Al and Bill both support Joe, where does that put you all on the scale!

    I am not sure there are still digits left on the side of the scale where you folks reside!

    I am going to head to Joe’s website right now and make a generous donation to the statesman.

  91. 1302

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 8/14/06 at 12:31 am

    So I understand — correct me if I’m wrong — that if Mike? Who is elected to the U.S. Senate, we will be represented in that august body by a guy nobody can talk to because he lives in a gated community to which access is by invitation only.

    Some Democrats complain, perhaps rightfully, that Maria Cantwell doesn’t listen to them. Well, that doesn’t get better by electing Mike?. At least Maria didn’t lock herself away from the public in the Highlands.

  92. 1303

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 8/14/06 at 12:31 am

    Mike? Who

    He’s the Problem, Not the Solution

  93. 1304

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 8/14/06 at 12:36 am

    One of Mike?’s problems is he’s a CHEAP LABOR CONSERVATIVE. In case you don’t know what that is, a cheap labor conservative is somebody who makes $28 million for two months of part-time work (roughly $500,000 an hour) who thinks waitresses should be paid $2.36 an hour.

    “When you cut right through it, right-wing ideology is just ‘dime-store economics’ – intended to dress their ideology up and make it look respectable. You don’t really need to know much about economics to understand it. They certainly don’t. It all gets down to two simple words. ‘Cheap labor’. That’s their whole philosophy in a nutshell … cheap-labor conservatives are defenders of corporate America – whose fortunes depend on labor. … The more desperately you need a job, the cheaper you’ll work, and the more power those ‘corporate lords’ have over you. If you are a wealthy elite … your wealth, power and privilege is enhanced by a labor pool forced to work cheap.”

    http://tinyurl.com/lnzs3

  94. 1305

    GS spews:

    Monday, 8/14/06 at 12:38 am

    I have friends who live in gated communities for security purposes, in a land you all claim to dominate. Go figure!

  95. 1306

    For the Clueless spews:

    Monday, 8/14/06 at 12:44 am

    Thanks GS (Gassy Poophead)! Based on your record for predictions (election contest, I-912), Lamont should sail right through!

  96. 1307

    For the Clueless spews:

    Monday, 8/14/06 at 12:47 am

    Hey Gas,

    When I have some time I’ll look up some of the predictions you made here on HA.org!

    They’re hilarious!

  97. 1308

    GS spews:

    Monday, 8/14/06 at 12:57 am

    Heh Clueless, Per Rasmussen, Joe is up 5% right now on Lamont! and he has just started his Independent campaign.

    http://www.rasmussenreports.co.....Senate.htm

    Read it an weep!

  98. 1309

    EpOYypsDpc spews:

    Monday, 8/14/06 at 1:58 am

    tE1euOfdX7z qqacapVCNegl waqMgqnW7yh

  99. 1310

    ArtFart spews:

    Monday, 8/14/06 at 2:30 am

    Q: What constitutes “computer literacy” in Freeper-Land?

    A: Knowing how to find CTL-C and CTL-V.

  100. 1311

    pbj spews:

    Monday, 8/14/06 at 7:27 am

    Funny how all the giddy nut-roots people FAIL to mention that Cynthia McKinney lost her ass.

    I found the Democrat agenda:

    The United States will cut and run from Iraq — with its tail between its legs — and totally and unconditionally surrender the war on terror! Emboldened by this outward show of weakness, Iran and North Korea will flex their muscles with renewed vigor. Hezbollah and Al-Qaeda will initiate unspeakable acts of terrorism against Americans here at home and abroad and we’ll be powerless to stop these dastardly acts because our ability to gather intelligence will be gutted by liberals who believe that protecting the lives of Americans violates the so-called “civil rights” of terrorists.

    President Bush will face Impeachment and other Republican leaders will face farcical trials on trumped-up and made-up charges!

    Your income taxes will go through the roof. The Death Tax and the Marriage Penalty will come back with a vengeance. Hordes of illegal aliens will flood across the border. Partial-birth abortion will be the law of the land. Thoughts and statements that run contrary to the radical homosexual agenda and public expressions of faith and religion will be legislated into “hate crimes.

  101. 1312

    For the Clueless spews:

    Monday, 8/14/06 at 7:43 am

    100 – and I-912 was a shoo-in! Riiiight…

    PBJ nut shill – I actually agree with you on one point (a first) – if the Dems win then preznit Shrub WILL face impeachment – based on all the crimes he committed ,lies he told and lives he destroyed with his sh*t-for-brains decisions.

    Being the worthless minion you are, you didn’t get the memo. Don’t talk about “if Democrats win, then Shrub will be impeached”. If you talk about that then people will actually vote Democrat!

  102. 1313

    Goldie is Stupid Mon spews:

    Monday, 8/14/06 at 8:14 am

    Goldie: Shame shame. You forgot the millions Maria lent to her campaign? You are a mental runt!

  103. 1314

    Goldie is Stupid Mon spews:

    Monday, 8/14/06 at 8:15 am

    Carl Grossman
    Democrat, Proud and JCH can kiss my white, Democratic, Jewish ass!

    Why are you a donk when your party hates Israel?

  104. 1315

    Goldie is Stupid Mon spews:

    Monday, 8/14/06 at 8:18 am

    fascistfirst @ 20 – You are bat-shit crazy! Commentby For the Clueless— 8/13/06@ 8:47 pm

    No Clueless You are the crazy one. Refute point by point americafirst’s argument. Instead you perform the donk attack – shoot the messenger because the refutation of their argument is otherwise impossible!

  105. 1316

    Goldie is Stupid Mon spews:

    Monday, 8/14/06 at 8:19 am

    GormlessDan@26 Tell it to the voters in Connecticut. Commentby killatroll/saveablog— 8/13/06@ 9:22 pm

    LovesTrolls: Lieberman is leading!

  106. 1317

    rhp6033 spews:

    Monday, 8/14/06 at 8:37 am

    RR at 94: Gee, those were my thoughts, too.

    This is not just a gated community for security reasons, but a gated community which even excludes the fire department, except by appointment only! Which won’t allow the assessor’s office in, requiring them to conduct appraisals by air! I guess if the police had to serve a search or arrest warrant, the guy at the gate would call ahead to see if it was alright to let them in?

    More importantly, even with or without deed restrictions, the ability of residents to “black ball” prospective purchasers makes me wonder how someone with a name like McGavick even got in. I can almost heare the conversations now: “McGavick – isn’t that an Irish name? Oh, its Scottish? Well, maybe that’s okay, but I don’t know. As long as they aren’t Jewish, or Italian, or Polish, or Black, or Asian…..”

    Gee, I wonder if the servants even get paid, or are free to leave……

    And THIS is the home of a person who seeks to be a “representative of the people” in one of the highest elected offices in our nation? People that isolated often really do feel that their politics are “in the mainstream”, because everybody they talk to agrees with them. But its a pretty small pond.

  107. 1318

    Dr. E spews:

    Monday, 8/14/06 at 9:07 am

    pbj @ 103

    #1) The US has no viable alternative but to cut its losses and end its occupation of Iraq. The entire premise of invading and occupying a sovereign nation that posed none (zero, zip, nil) threat either to the US or to Iraq’s immediate neighbors (think about that for a while) was criminal from the outset. We owe the Iraqis nothing less than our immediate withdrawal, allowing a UN peacekeeping force to come in and try to restore the peace. In reality, this will almost certainly mean the dissolution of the so-called “democracy” we have installed at gunpoint, with the country devolving into 3 separate states. Not that this scenario wasn’t foreseen, but the ideologues in the White House chose to ignore it, as well as the very real destabilization this dissolution is likely to cause in the region.

    #2) As for an outward show of weakness, the world is largely in tune with the military weakness this nation displays in choosing to attack third-rate, backwater militaries (Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.). It’s got to be fairly disgusting watching the equivalent of a professional boxer taking on a handicapped five-year-old. As citizens, we should be embarrassed and outraged at this sort of immoral bullying and fight-picking; instead, right wingers are so scared shitless of the specter of terrorism that they ignore such unpleasant realities. Your assertion that “our ability to gather intelligence will be gutted by liberals who believe that protecting the lives of Americans violates the so-called ‘civil rights’ of terrorists” belies precisely this ignorance: you are essentially asserting that the US cannot prevent terrorist attacks within the boundaries of constitutional law. If you want to ignore the real causes of terrorism (some of which we cannot control but are almost certainly self-limiting) and choose instead to live in a totalitarian police state that would ostensibly protect you from such threats, then I’d invite you to consider emigration. There are still a few old-fashioned totalitarian police states out there — Zimbabwe comes to mind.

    #3) Bush and Cheney should, by any measure, be impeached and convicted for high crimes and misdemeanors. Rumsfeld, Feith, Perle, Wolfowitz, et al should do hard time in the grey bar motel with them. I’m not normally terribly in favor of capital punishment, but the crimes of these treasonous arm-chair murderers is certainly befitting of such punishment.

    #4) Taxes will increase. How on earth do you expect any government to pay off a federal debt of $8 trillion and counting? Are you prepared to write a check for $28K (sans interest, of course) to cover your share? Add to that the actual costs of the Iraq occupation (which have not yet been added to either the budget deficit or the federal debt) which, in the opinion of some economists, has conservatively surpassesd $1 trillion already (a more realistic estimate puts the cost over $2 trillion). Who the fuck is gonna pay for all this? You? I sure as hell hope you don’t have kids, as you’re bequeathing them with a pretty hefty birth tax.

    Et cetera. It’s pretty easy to poke holes in every single one of your arguments. You really need to educate yourself, at least a little bit;

  108. 1319

    jaybo spews:

    Monday, 8/14/06 at 9:17 am

    The Horror of it All!

    Can it be true that a terrorist had to be tourtured to save American lives? Please, say it isn’t so……….

    ‘ringleader’ admits link with al-Qaida

    “Arrested Briton has given ‘many clues’ but campaigners say he was tortured

    Duncan Campbell in Islamabad and Randeep Ramesh in Lahore
    The Guardian
    Monday August 14, 2006

    “Reports in Pakistani newspapers yesterday that Mr Rauf had “broken” under interrogation were described by a Pakistani human rights group as confirmation that he had been tortured. Asma Jehangir, of the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan, said that it was obvious how the information had been obtained. “I don’t deduce, I know – torture,” she said. “There is simply no doubt about that, no doubt at all.””

    Please weigh in moonbats with your moans and crying over this barbaric injustice.

  109. 1320

    Richard Pope spews:

    Monday, 8/14/06 at 9:24 am

    I went through a number of sales in the last few years in The Highlands, and there is a pattern of significant underassessment.

    As I said before, property tax assessment is based on sales values from two to three years before — i.e. 2004 and 2005 sales data are used in 2006 to calculate assessment for payment of 2007 taxes. Generally, 2007 assessments for a given home that sold in 2004 or 2005 will average at 98% to 99% of what that home sold for in 2004 and 2005. This ratio is called the “assessment ratio”, and has been at the 98% to 99% level for many, many years.

    However, if you look at homes in The Highlands which have sold in Year X, they will typically be assessed at around 73% of this price in Year X+2 and 70% of this price in year X+3.

    The McGavicks bought their home for $4,475,000 in 2001. But for 2007 — seven years later — it is still assessed at only $3,669,000, or 81.99% of the 2001 sales price.

    I doubt that you could find too many homes that sold in 2001, but have received a 2007 assessment for less than that 2001 sales price.

  110. 1321

    For the Clueless spews:

    Monday, 8/14/06 at 9:29 am

    Whackbo – hardcore pro-torture wingnut!

    104 – Puddybud, please use your real handle in the most recent threads. You don’t want to prevent the wife from coming at you with a rolling pin for wallowing in the pit with us “sickos”.

    And yeah I see you using your old handle in the “older” threads – think you’re fooling the wife, eh?

  111. 1322

    jaybo spews:

    Monday, 8/14/06 at 9:35 am

    Clueless @ 110,

    I guess you may be right, after all, if we torture them they may begin to do horrific things to their prisoners like say cut of their heads while still alive…….

    So I guess we should have read him his myranda rights, given him a lawyer and let his cohorts blow up several passenger jets.

    right clueless?

  112. 1323

    Dr. E spews:

    Monday, 8/14/06 at 10:07 am

    jaybo –

    Why don’t we have you tortured by the Pakistanis for a while and see what you’ll confess to?

  113. 1324

    For the Clueless spews:

    Monday, 8/14/06 at 10:14 am

    Whackbo – I won’t get into it with you. Believe whatever you want, even insane stuff like killing a billion people will ever amount to anything. Hey, it’s a free country.

    Careful how you express it though – you may end up isolated without any friends, in jail or in the looney bin.

  114. 1325

    jaybo spews:

    Monday, 8/14/06 at 10:23 am

    So the moonbats (see above) lash out with their usual venom.

    Isn’t it ironic that they cannot bring themselves to say that the fact that the Pakistanis did what they had to do to save lives was a good thing?

    Now who wants mental midgets like these two in charge of protecting Americans?

  115. 1326

    killatroll/saveablog spews:

    Monday, 8/14/06 at 10:29 am

    OK, Jaybo, you’ve never gone in to a combat situation with bad intelligence information.
    During ‘Nam, certain Army interrogators would turn V.C. prisoners over to the ROK troops. They in turn would take them up in a helicopter in pairs. At about 500 feet they would simply kick one of them out the open hatch. The other one would start talking like a jaybird. He would testify to anything just to get back down to the ground. After a while our command discouraged this kind of interrogation.

  116. 1327

    For the Clueless spews:

    Monday, 8/14/06 at 10:30 am

    Joementum recently crowed about the “threats” we face and how they’re worse than WWII (that killed 6 million jews) or even the Cold War. A hilarious response:

    The Cold-war is just one of many threats we’ve faced that exceed the danger posed to America from Osama bin Laden by orders of magnitude. We also survived Hitler, Imperial Japan, the Kaiser, a Civil War, and the British Empire–the latter one twice by the way–just to name a few.

    In that historical context, reading or hearing a bunch of yelping GOP crybabies incessantly screeching in craven horror that Al Qaeda is the worst, gosh-darn biggest bad-ass threat we’ve ever faced is, frankly, an act that has grown tired and embarrassing. And when they yammer, time and time again, that it’s not enough for them to be quivering under their beds, they insist the entire country crawl under there and obsess along with them, while they lay in fetal position swaddled in their faded George Bush security blanket squawking in fear, it’s enough to make Burt the Turtle duck and cover in disgust.

    Here’s a message for both our homegrown Neoconservative, bloggy, gutless wonders and the Jihadi nutcases overseas: I grew up in the cold-war, my parents went through WW2 for crying out loud. We are not paralyzed with fear over Osama. Despite your best efforts, I’m not obsessed with terrorism. Sheesh, I barely even think about it. I face bigger statistical risks, in every way, every day, and on every scale, just driving across a set of railroad tracks and down the interstate smoking a cigarette in the rain, and I don’t worry much about that either.

    And if you want me to be afraid for my very nation’s survival, Jebus H Christ, you damn well better be able to wave around a threat considerably more convincing than a rag-tag group of zealots who shit in caves and beg other people to put on suicide belts sporting a rip cord detonator.

    Update 8:54 AM EDT: Yay! I got linked quoted on one right-wing chicken-shit site already. Redstate is whining that we must join them under the bed. How do these wimps make it through the day without a jug of Xanax? Who will be the next yellow-elephant to complain that we’re not sharing in their abject cowardice enough? I’m taking bets …

    Brilliant. Read the whole thing!

  117. 1328

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedy spews:

    Monday, 8/14/06 at 10:37 am

    And THIS is the home of a person who seeks to be a “representative of the people” in one of the highest elected offices in our nation? People that isolated often really do feel that their politics are “in the mainstream”, because everybody they talk to agrees with them. But its a pretty small pond. -Commentby rhp6033— 8/14/06@ 8:37 am

    Hey, hypocrite prick…or just plain stupid prick (you choose)… can you say…

    John Kerry… the richest member of Congress–is worth an estimated $550 MILLION: home in Fox Chapel, Pennsylvania Assessed value: $3.7 million; Ketchum, Idaho ski getaway/vacation home Assessed value: $4.916 million; Washington, D.C – Georgetown area assessment: $4.7 million; Nantucket, Massachusetts waterfront retreat on Brant Point Assessed value: $9.18 million; Boston, Massachusetts – Beacon Hill home Assessed value: $6.9

    Dianne Feinstein… is worth an estimated $27 MILLION

    John Edward… is worth an estimated $43 MILLION

    Howard Dean …is worth an estimated $675 million

    Nancy Pelosi has assets valued at as much as $92 MILLION…Pacific Heights home on Broadway, all valued at up to $5 million, a Sierra townhouse in Norden, worth up to $5 million, another condo in Alpine Meadows, valued at up to $1 million

    Al Gore: Estimated net worth: $1.95 million …a 10,000-square-foot, 20-room, eight-bathroom home in Nashville, and a 4,000-square-foot home in Arlington, Va. (He also has a third home in Carthage, Tenn.)

    For comparison, Forbes magazine estimates the total net worth of President George W. Bush at $15 million. His 1,600-acre ranch near Crawford.

    Oh gee let’s play Sesame Street…la goldie can sing along in her up-down, down-up, musical voice thing she has”one of these things is not like the other”

  118. 1329

    jaybo spews:

    Monday, 8/14/06 at 10:38 am

    Still can’t say it!

    I guess there is no instance that they would support using whatever means necessary to extract intelligence from a terrorist, even if we lose a city to a nuclear attack.

    Again, does anyone want politicians with this mindset in charge of our national security right now?

  119. 1330

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedy spews:

    Monday, 8/14/06 at 10:43 am

    Foreign policy and anti-terrorism plan of todays liberals:
    “Kumbaya! I’m OK, you’re OK! Can’t we all just get along? Peace, dude!… DON’T HURT ME, I FEEL YOUR PAIN”

  120. 1331

    For the Clueless spews:

    Monday, 8/14/06 at 10:45 am

    whackbo, ASS: ‘fess up. What anti-anxiety medication are you on? Jeff “Pasty” Goldstein uses klonopin. At least he admitted it.

  121. 1332

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedy spews:

    Monday, 8/14/06 at 10:46 am

    “ The [Daily] Kos crowd is viewed by most people outside that crowd as hate-fueled,bitter and stupid—the devil’s flying monkeys making their ‘Eeek! Eeek!’ sounds. As a political phenomenon such people do not inspire. They’re not like the young lefties of old trying to be ‘Clean for Gene.’ They seem like people who do not—cannot—create and cohere. They seem driven by a spirit of destruction. This will take you only so far. “ —Peggy Noonan

  122. 1333

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedy spews:

    Monday, 8/14/06 at 10:48 am

    “ As some of us have been trying to tell you, Democrats don’t oppose the war on terrorism because they hate Bush: They hate Bush because he is fighting the war on terrorism. They would hate him for fighting terrorists even if he had a ‘D’ after his name. They would hate Bernie Sanders if he were fighting a war on terrorism. In the past three decades, there have been more legitimate sightings of Big Foot than of ‘Scoop Jackson Democrats.’ That’s why Hillary Clinton has anti-war protestors howling at her public events. That’s why she has drawn an anti-war primary opponent, Jonathan Tasini, who appears to believe that Israel is a terrorist state. If those rumors I’ve been hearing about a Hezbollah/Hamas/DNC merger are true, we might be in for a slightly longer fight.“ —Ann Coulter

  123. 1334

    For the Clueless spews:

    Monday, 8/14/06 at 10:49 am

    120 – Correction. Not admitted it. Bragged about it!

    121 – typical propaganda from a wingnut speechwriter.

  124. 1335

    For the Clueless spews:

    Monday, 8/14/06 at 10:57 am

    122 – Won’t touch that. Everything she writes is bullshit.

  125. 1336

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedy spews:

    Monday, 8/14/06 at 10:58 am

    Ah aptlynamedclueless, sorry to disappoint you sugarpants, but ‘better living through chemicals’ is for you angst ridden kiddies.

    Grownups don’t run for “therapy” or drugs every time they stub a toe. We don’t drug our sons because they are active little boys. We don’t trot out every dream, imaginary boogey man or momentary anxiety with a quick run to a headcase quack.

    Hellsbells, we don’t even take an aspirin when of cup of tea a nap or cold pack will do.

    But hey… I have loads of Pfizer stock (up 1.63% so far today), J&J stock (up .66% so far today) and Merck stock (up .92% so far today)… so please keep “medicating”!

  126. 1337

    For the Clueless spews:

    Monday, 8/14/06 at 11:12 am

    Hey ASS, Richard Hofstader is the gift that keeps on giving:

    The higher paranoid scholarship propaganda is nothing if not coherent—in fact the paranoid mind is far more coherent than the real world. It is nothing if not scholarly in technique. McCarthy’s 96-page pamphlet, McCarthyism, contains no less than 313 footnote references, and Mr. Welch’s incredible assault on Eisenhower, The Politician, has one hundred pages of bibliography and notes. The entire right-wing movement of our time is a parade of experts, study groups, monographs, footnotes, and bibliographies. Sometimes the right-wing striving for scholarly depth and an inclusive world view has startling consequences: Mr. Welch, for example, has charged that the popularity of Arnold Toynbee’s historical work is the consequence of a plot on the part of Fabians, “Labour party bosses in England,” and various members of the Anglo-American “liberal establishment” to overshadow the much more truthful and illuminating work of Oswald Spengler.

    Footnotes! Ann Coulter anyone?

    ASS – I agree with you on your medicinal habits. You don’t want anything to dilute your paranoia – and our entertainment for that matter!

  127. 1338

    For the Clueless spews:

    Monday, 8/14/06 at 11:22 am

    Damn! Screwed that up!

    ASS – here’s another gem:

    Norman Cohn believed he found a persistent psychic complex that corresponds broadly with what I have been considering—a style made up of certain preoccupations and fantasies:

    “the megalomaniac view of oneself as the Elect, wholly good, abominably persecuted, yet assured of ultimate triumph; the attribution of gigantic and demonic powers to the adversary; the refusal to accept the ineluctable limitations and imperfections of human existence, such as transience, dissention, conflict, fallibility whether intellectual or moral; the obsession with inerrable prophecies…systematized misinterpretations, always gross and often grotesque.”

  128. 1339

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedy spews:

    Monday, 8/14/06 at 11:25 am

    You’re babbling aptlynamedclueless… what drug did you miss this AM?

  129. 1340

    sgmmac spews:

    Monday, 8/14/06 at 12:22 pm

    What the hell is it with Democrats and gambling?

    Last session they passed a law saying that you can’t play online video poker and made it a class C felony. Furthermore, you can’t own anything that portrays gambling in a positive light. Gambling magazine subscribers in this state saw all of their subscriptions cancelled a few months ago.

    In Lacey, the State Gambling commission is after a man for having slot machines in his garage. They don’t accept coins, he uses them as entertainment.

    http://www.theolympian.com/app...../608140357

  130. 1341

    For the Clueless spews:

    Monday, 8/14/06 at 1:04 pm

    128 – ASS, the drug of right-wing kool-aid. I’ve come close enough to read the wrapper and I’m happy I just said no.

  131. 1342

    ArtFart spews:

    Monday, 8/14/06 at 4:28 pm

    126…extensively footnoted and bibliographed bullshit is still bullshit.

  132. 1343

    Puddybud Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 8/14/06 at 7:42 pm

    Wothless uh…. clueless:

    I have been down. Laptop died. Have a loaner. Now what are you babbling about above?

    Oh yes, you equating me with others? Brown recluse bit your balls?

  133. 1344

    See BS - I Love that Station spews:

    Monday, 8/14/06 at 7:48 pm

    Cluelessness – I actually agree with #104. Refute americafirst. I will watch my screen.

    Dr E. You seem to be the most adept at good responses. Why didn’t you tackle americafirst?

  134. 1345

    Dr. E spews:

    Monday, 8/14/06 at 8:40 pm

    134

    Sure. AF’s entire argument is predicated on his assertion that Soros is a “self-hating Jew”. Thus, the core of his argument is not much more than an ad hominem attack, and thus not logical. (There are other factors that make the argument illogical, but predicating the entire thing on an ad hominem pretty much negates the whole thing.)

  135. 1346

    QhqZsc317A spews:

    Wednesday, 8/16/06 at 11:30 pm

    qiU1Jw5h0qx Uu3GMJNit9Jy nbctm5tai064A

  136. 1347

    pDP8cJdn8o spews:

    Thursday, 8/17/06 at 1:07 am

    TXqm5CMTLD SefQjKA1fvn22T p6xWUgiNjEsl4z

  137. 1348

    mW1VlSijj6 spews:

    Thursday, 8/17/06 at 1:15 am

    vFydNlViXztK CMZEtaooFc eIijsuE61Jvc

  138. 1349

    understanding spews:

    Saturday, 8/26/06 at 12:57 am

    kidding Fresno thrashes?prospected Chatham.males flushes?

“The David Goldstein Show” tonight on Newsradio 710-KIRO

by Goldy — Sunday, 8/6/06, 5:04 pm

Are you feeling a bit dizzy from watching the hydroplanes spin round and round, or from craning your necks to catch a glimpse of the Blue Angels soaring by, or simply from a weekend of too much sun and too much beer? Then turn down the lights, turn up the radio and tune in to “The David Goldstein Show tonight on Newsradio 710-KIRO, from 7PM to 10PM.

7PM: Is centrism for suckers? That’s the opinion of New York Times columnist Paul Krugman who wrote this week that, in this age of ruthless partisanship, the most important thing you need to know about a candidate is whether there’s a “D” or an “R” next to their name. And speaking of partisanship, I’m going to talk a little bit about my role in the shareholder lawsuit against Mike!™ McGavick, and why it says absolutely nothing at all about the merits of the case itself.

8PM: Hey… there are a couple congressional races East of the mountains too. Who knew? Spokane blogger Gerald Toompas of EWpolitics.com joins me to talk about some surprising poll numbers in the 5th CD race between incumbent Republican Rep. Cathy McMorris and Democratic challenger Peter Goldmark, while Tri-Cities blogger Jim McCabe of McCranium.org calls in to complain about his local media’s refusal to admit that Rep. “Do Nothin’ Doc” Hastings even has a Democratic challenger. Then in the second half of the hour I’ll be heading back west with long time (and disgruntled) conservative Republican activist Phil Spackman, who’s gonna tell us exactly what’s wrong with the WA state and King County GOP.

9PM: What’s the right-wing, Christian Evangelical extremist perspective on state and national politics? Gen. JC Christian, Patriot, joins me to discuss the most important issues of the day, including Intelligent Design, stem cell research, the Iraq war and of course… The Passion of the Mel Gibson. “The General” blogs at the nationally renowned Jesus’ General, which bills itself as “The Official Online Organ of the Glorious Conservative Christian Cultural Revolution.” And a very manly organ it is.

Tune in tonight (or listen to the live stream) and give me a call: 1-877-710-KIRO (5476).

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  1. 1350

    Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    Sunday, 8/6/06 at 5:16 pm

    Will the General include a report from the French?

  2. 1351

    Dan Rather-Whats the frequency-Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 8/6/06 at 5:20 pm

    Exclusive.

    Was the Jew killer a conservative or liberal. In the Seattle Times we have the following quote:

    Haq’s friend said he couldn’t believe the timid, “geeky” man he knew from the tutoring center was capable of such violence.

    “Are you sure we’re talking about the same person?” he said Sunday………….

    He said Haq was not a devout Muslim and often complained that the Tri-Cities were too politically conservative.

    “I’m beginning to think I was his only friend in the Tri-Cities. I don’t recall him hanging out with anybody else.”

    Now for the other side we turn to Goldy’s story from last week:

    Psssssssssstttttttt…….

    Ah it looks like the story was all a bunch of hot air. Well there you have it. Enjoy all you Nazi Libs.

    Hey Goldy are you going to talk about this on the air. Somehow I doubt it. Hehe

  3. 1352

    David Wright spews:

    Sunday, 8/6/06 at 5:26 pm

    Goldy: You are right, your involvement has no bearing on the legal merits of the case aginst McGavick. But your radio listeners aren’t deciding the legal case against McGavick, so that doesn’t matter, now, does it?

    Your radio listeners are deciding the merits of the political case that this lawsuit indicates McGavick wouldn’t be a good senator. Does the fact that the lawsuit was encouraged and shepherded along by a bunch of political hacks like yourself have any bearing on the merits of that case? Absolutely.

  4. 1353

    Goldy spews:

    Sunday, 8/6/06 at 5:30 pm

    David… the local media ignores the ethical and legal implications of McGavick’s compensation package, so is it wrong for partisans like me to want to draw some attention to it so that voters can be full informed? If I don’t do it, who will?

    That said, my role was minor, but call in, and we’ll have a go at it: 877-710-KIRO

  5. 1354

    skagit spews:

    Sunday, 8/6/06 at 5:31 pm

    Hope you explain the lawsuit cause I don’t know about it. Also, just got back from E Washington and was in the Omak area. Tried to find some radio in the car and all I could get what one station – is that real? Is that all there is over there? It was Lush Rimbaugh . . . god help me, I just listened to the motor whirrr.

  6. 1355

    Green Thumb spews:

    Sunday, 8/6/06 at 5:37 pm

    I’m not a fan of an “anything goes” comments section, but there is one way that it could be quite informative (and entertaining).

    What if Goldy found a few psychologists, linguists, and logic experts to “deconstruct” some of the choice diatribes of the trolls who participate here. Various gambits and pathological patterns could be named. The resulting write-up could be kept posted in an accessible place, where it could be used as a handy reference guide for non-trolls.

    Why bother? Sure, the regular “lefties” critique the trolls all the time, but the most powerful analysis tends to get lost amidst the cuss words and threats of adultery. Such taunts can be funny, but it does lack a certain air of sophistication. Adolescent attacks can be written off as, well, adolescent.

    In the absence of ranked comments threads, it is time to fight fire with . . . knowledge.

  7. 1356

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 8/6/06 at 5:38 pm

    skagit, 20 million Americans listen to Ruch each week day. How many listen to IDF hero Goldy?

  8. 1357

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 8/6/06 at 5:42 pm

    SUSPECTED gunman William Edney picked the wrong vehicle to carjack Thursday morning, paying with his blood for the poor decision, police said.

    Edney, 23, watched as his bounty, a wine-colored 2004 Ford Expedition, pulled up to a rowhouse on Larchwood Avenue near 58th Street, West Philadelphia, about 6:15 a.m.

    A seemingly easy target, a senior citizen with a slow gait, climbed out of the SUV.

    Edney clutched a 9 mm handgun and crept up to the senior, whispering, “Don’t do anything funny,” police later said.

    The elderly man, George Newton, 78, unhesitatingly handed him the keys. Edney hopped into the driver’s seat still holding the gun in his right hand, Newton told the Daily News yesterday, while sitting on the stoop of his West Philadelphia rowhouse.

    Newton said he watched as Edney struggled to hold the gun and shift gears with the same hand. Newton said he seized the opportunity, and pulled out his revolver, firing one shot into Edney’s jaw.

    Edney drove off, but Newton “came around to the driver’s side and shot him again,” striking him in the shoulder, police said.

    “Both windows were down so I didn’t mess up any of my glass,” Newton said. […………………………………………………………………….Looks like on less Democrat vote in Phiily, unless felons get to vote from prison.]

  9. 1358

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 8/6/06 at 5:44 pm

    WASHINGTON – More than half of those convicted of violent felonies in large Democrat controlled urban areas between 1990 and 2002 had previous convictions, the government reported Sunday. Nearly four in 10, or 38 percent, of those Democrats convicted of violent felonies had previous felony convictions.

  10. 1359

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Sunday, 8/6/06 at 5:46 pm

    In the absence of ranked comments threads, it is time to fight fire with . . . knowledge. Commentby Green Thumb— 8/6/06@ 5:37 pm

    Gosh, there’s a conundrum there… can YOU figure out what it is??

  11. 1360

    skagit spews:

    Sunday, 8/6/06 at 5:56 pm

    I’m sure you’re fine with the “herd mentality” as you seem to be in accordance with Lush. Most of us libs are independent thinkers and don’t need a cult leader . . .

    Green Thumb, lose the pseudo intellect. If you were for real, you’d be on a blog that that cared. You can only use knowledge when it is respected by both sides. Anyone as seemingly smart as you should have figured that out by now: these guys don’t think nor do they want to think. They are reactionaries who get their high out of stupid and inane remarks regardless of the topic or response. So, give it up.

    Goldy is fine with it. It is his blog. I only come back when I’m feeling like venting and can be as stupid as they are. That is all I exploit them for.

  12. 1361

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 8/6/06 at 5:57 pm

    I see in the news that Bush’s ATF chief has resigned under fire amid allegations of financial mismanagement.

  13. 1362

    Green Thumb spews:

    Sunday, 8/6/06 at 5:57 pm

    Proud @ 10, it would be most gratifying to have your prose “diagnosed” by an expert.

    Most gratifying indeed.

  14. 1363

    jch is a supreme jerk spews:

    Sunday, 8/6/06 at 6:56 pm

    WASHINGTON – More than three quarters of those convicted of violent felonies in southern Repukelican controlled rural areas between 1990 and 2002 had previous convictions, the government reported Sunday. Nearly four in 10, or 38 percent, of those Repuklican convicted of violent felonies had previous felony convictions or had to post bail for white collar crime indictments.

    Comment by bitchslap jch with tookie williams cold long dick— 8/6/06@ 5:44 pm

  15. 1364

    jch is a supreme jerk spews:

    Sunday, 8/6/06 at 6:57 pm

    Studies show most repuklicans are liars and cheats. Shooting them would be doing them a favor.

  16. 1365

    jch is a supreme jerk spews:

    Sunday, 8/6/06 at 6:59 pm

    why does howcanyoubeproudtobeanass not denounce bottom feeding cocksuckers like jch?

    the answer is pretty obvious.

  17. 1366

    jch is a supreme jerk spews:

    Sunday, 8/6/06 at 7:03 pm

    @8: actually, the guy shot is a busted out insurance annuity salesman. look it up. that pegs him as a repuklican for sure.

    —way too much cock for me, tookie, bitchslap jch

  18. 1367

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Sunday, 8/6/06 at 7:05 pm

    I absolutely do denounce “bottom feeding cocksuckers”.. that stupid little girl named Monica absolutely debased herself, while the wifey-poo looks like the fool she is continuing to be a “bottom feeding cocksuckers”.

    Liberals have no pride, evidently.

  19. 1368

    Enoch Root spews:

    Sunday, 8/6/06 at 7:11 pm

    I really hate that KIRO wants me to give them personal information before they’ll let me listen to their advertising (and the Goldy show, too…)

  20. 1369

    skagit spews:

    Sunday, 8/6/06 at 7:18 pm

    Same thing with KPTK. Every time I try to listen online, I’m asked to fill out some stupid sign in sheet. I opt out.

  21. 1370

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 8/6/06 at 7:20 pm

    14, Do you miss Democrat hero Tookie Williams? I’ll bet he misses your rectum!

  22. 1371

    JCHSucksDick spews:

    Sunday, 8/6/06 at 7:21 pm

    The jew killer was a Christian and a republican – what else is new?

  23. 1372

    David Wright spews:

    Sunday, 8/6/06 at 7:56 pm

    Goldy @4: Thanks for responding.

    Saying that his accepting a $28M golden parachute should make voters look askance at McGavick is fine. Saying that the lawsuit should make voters look askance at McGavick, when you had a hand in bringing it, is not fine. (If you had given McGavick the $28M, and then complained about his having it, people wouldn’t regard that as a legitimate criticism either.)

    To stay credible, I suggest you talk about the $28M, and how you think that is wrong regardless of its legality, instead of about the lawsuit you helped bring.

  24. 1373

    Neil spews:

    Sunday, 8/6/06 at 8:07 pm

    You’re having Spackman on the show? Way to show a level-headed member of the Republican Party…I believe that this would be like having Aaron Dixon on your show to talk about what’s wrong with the King County Democratic Party.

  25. 1374

    Another TJ spews:

    Sunday, 8/6/06 at 8:27 pm

    Colonel Goldy, sir!

    Please convey to the General our undying devotion to the GCCCR cause. I will never become discouraged; like Our Lady of the Concentration Camps, I too believe that for every problem, there’s a Final Solution (h/t Stephen Lynch).

    Sincerely,
    Humble Private ATJ

  26. 1375

    SeattleDan spews:

    Sunday, 8/6/06 at 8:55 pm

    Green Thumb, thank you for your comments. Goldy is very tolerant in letting the trolls post as often as they do. Because of them, I don’t visit or participate here often. One might say that they’re exercising their rights of free speech. I think they’re Attention Whores. And I can live without their comments.

  27. 1376

    killatroll/saveablog spews:

    Sunday, 8/6/06 at 9:41 pm

    @29 Yes, Goldy is very tolerant, so tolerant in fact, that he occasionally has an Open Season on Trolls. I am very much looking forward to the next one. . .

  28. 1377

    Not PuddyBud spews:

    Sunday, 8/6/06 at 9:53 pm

    Goldy, wonderful show with the General Jesus.

    Great Radio!

  29. 1378

    Not A Kool Aid Drinker spews:

    Sunday, 8/6/06 at 9:56 pm

    Everday should be “Open Season on Trolls.”

    Why?

    Because they are retched, scaley, slimey, mindless, bowel-irritated TROLLS!!!

  30. 1379

    Dave Gibney spews:

    Sunday, 8/6/06 at 9:57 pm

    It was real fun listening.

  31. 1380

    Not A Kool Aid Drinker spews:

    Sunday, 8/6/06 at 10:03 pm

    One thing about “Open Season on Trolls”, is that TROLLS are not very good eating.

    Taste like CHICKEN with an aftertast of hawkish bloodlust.

  32. 1381

    SeattleTammy spews:

    Sunday, 8/6/06 at 10:04 pm

    I called!

    wooo- I was so nervous! But I got to mention the four kittens of the apocolypse. I couldn’t believe no-one tumbled to the SATIRE.

    duh.

  33. 1382

    Dan Rather-Whats the frequency-Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 8/6/06 at 10:18 pm

    Reuters admits altering Beirut photo

    Reuters withdraws photograph of Beirut after Air Force attack after US blogs, photographers point out ‘blatant evidence of manipulation.’ Reuters’ head of PR says in response, ‘Reuters has suspended photographer until investigations are completed into changes made to photograph.’ Photographer who sent altered image is same Reuters photographer behind many of images from Qana, which have also been subject of suspicions for being staged
    Yaakov Lappin

    A Reuters photograph of smoke rising from buildings in Beirut has been withdrawn after coming under attack by American web logs. The blogs accused Reuters of distorting the photograph to include more smoke and damage.

    The photograph showed two very heavy plumes of black smoke billowing from buildings in Beirut after an Air Force attack on the Lebanese capital. Reuters has since withdrawn the photograph from its website, along a message admitting that the image was distorted, and an apology to editors.

    These damn right wing bloggers are always in the way. How can a dishonest lefty journalist make a living with them around.

  34. 1383

    LeftTurn spews:

    Sunday, 8/6/06 at 10:20 pm

    Man you gotta love republican thinking. They can parse any illegal activity into no big deal as long as they can find a way to blame someone else.

    IT DOESN’T MATTER ONE FUCKING BIT what part Goldy did or DIDN’T have in the lawsuit against Alaska’s US Senate Candidate. What matters is whether or not his compensation package was illegal. Either it was or it wasn’t. At the end of the day we’ll find out the answer to that question and it WON’T be answered based on ANYTHING Goldy did or didn’t do.

    You right wingers have spent so much time deflecting that you might not have noticed that your party is about to be tossed out on its ass!

  35. 1384

    Tlazolteotl spews:

    Sunday, 8/6/06 at 10:21 pm

    Ah shit! I missed the General!

  36. 1385

    Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    Sunday, 8/6/06 at 10:22 pm

    Goldy is right. . .Do Nothing Dick Hasting’s has Goy To Go.

  37. 1386

    ArtFart spews:

    Sunday, 8/6/06 at 10:33 pm

    Here’s about all the “analysis” the trolls are worthy of:

    http://www.axenhammer.com/whoopdefdoo.jpg

  38. 1387

    Dan Rather-Whats the frequency-Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 8/6/06 at 10:46 pm

    When a lefty nutburger says the following:

    IT DOESN’T MATTER ONE FUCKING BIT ……

    You know whatever it is it does matter.

  39. 1388

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 8/6/06 at 11:17 pm

    3

    “Does the fact that the lawsuit was encouraged and shepherded along by a bunch of political hacks like yourself have any bearing on the merits of that case? Absolutely.” Commentby David Wright— 8/6/06@ 5:26 pm

    You’re not a lawyer, are you? You don’t know a damn thing about shareholder suits. You only need to own 1 share in the company (during the relevant time period) to have standing to sue. WHY you sue is irrelevant, and any testimony to the effect the lawsuit is politically motivated wouldn’t even be admissible. The question is whether McGavick breached a fiduciary duty to the shareholders by sticking his hand in the till.

  40. 1389

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 8/6/06 at 11:18 pm

    2

    Christ was crucified by a bunch of Republicans.

  41. 1390

    Gerald spews:

    Sunday, 8/6/06 at 11:40 pm

    http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/.....oel07.html

    How Annoying.

  42. 1391

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 8/6/06 at 11:41 pm

    14 et seq.

    Not to be overlooked is the quintessential Republican, LOW TAX LOOPER:

    “Looper … became a staunch conservative Republican. He lost a race for the state house in 1994, but in 1996 … was backed by the Tennessee Republican Party in a race for the technically nonpartisan post of Putnam County Tax Assessor, which he won.

    “He was the first Republican elected official at any level in Putnam County in over a century. As tax assessor, Looper … failed repeatedly to file property tax valuations with the state government on time … charges were made that Looper offered reduced tax assessments to local businesses in exchange for large political contributions …. Later, an ex-girlfriend sued him for … fraud, charging he had used his official position to steal her house. In March of 1998, Looper was indicted on 14 counts of official misconduct, theft of services and official oppression. Looper claimed the charges were politically motivated ….

    “The Tennessee Republican Party soon claimed no connection with Looper, though campaign contributions and lists of paid political consultants proved otherwise. In 1998, Looper sought the Republican nominations for the 6th Congressional District of Tennessee and the Tennessee State Senate in the same primary. He lost the Congressional nomination to a candidate who was not under indictment … finishing last in a field of four. He won the state senate nomination by default, however, as he was the only Republican candidate on the ballot. This set up his campaign against … incumbent Democratic state senator Tommy Burks.

    “Burks had represented Putnam County in the state legislature for 28 years — eight in the State House and 20 in the State Senate. He was … a farmer who was popular in his district. The 1998 election looked to be as quiet as his previous nine. … On the morning of October 19, authorities were called to investigate a likely murder at the Burks farm. Tommy Burks’ body was found with his head resting on the steering wheel of his pickup truck … authorities immediately began a standard homicide investigation but could find no one with any plausible reason to murder Burks. Then (a witness) called Burks’ widow, Charlotte, after seeing a picture of Looper on television, and told her that Looper was the man he’d seen speeding away … the morning of the murder.

    Looper … made it to Hot Springs, Arkansas, where he met with a friend, Marine recruiter Joe Bond … talking a great deal about how he had murdered his Senate opponent … Looper was arraigned at a hearing that featured Bond as a surprise witness for the state. … The trial finally occurred in 2000. By this time, inmate road crews had found the weapon apparently used by Looper to commit the murder … (and) two political consultants … reported having been contacted at various times by Looper, who told both of them that he … felt the surest way to win would be to murder the opponent. …

    “Looper had done some homework. An obscure Tennessee state law required that a candidate’s name be removed from the ballot and not replaced if he died within 30 days of the election. … Looper’s name therefore was the only one listed on the ballot, and for a few days it looked like he would win by default. … On election day, Charlotte Burks, as a write-in candidate, won the seat with 30,252 votes compared to Looper’s 1,531 votes … Charlotte Burks remains a popular member of the State Senate.”

    Note: Low Tax Looper is serving life without parole at Brushy Mountain Penitentiary. His defense attorney, in his opening statement, told the jury, “He was the first Republican elected in Putnam County, and he made quite a name for himself ….”

    This article is quoted under the Fair Use Doctrine; for complete story and/or copyright info, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byron_Looper

  43. 1392

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 8/6/06 at 11:46 pm

    In the last year, 15 states have enacted laws that expand the right of self-defense, allowing crime victims to use deadly force in situations that might formerly have subjected them to prosecution for murder. Supporters call them ”stand your ground” laws. Opponents call them ”shoot first” laws. /break/ The Florida law, which served as a model for the others, gives people the right to use deadly force against intruders entering their homes. They no longer need to prove that they feared for their safety, only that the person they killed had intruded unlawfully and forcefully.

    Personal crimes rise dramatically in areas that preclude self-defense (self-defense free zones).

    Cities like Chicago, LA, Boston, Washington DC, Baltimore, etc are liberal cesspools that through failed anti-gun social engineering create safe operating environments for criminals.

    Creating a safe operating environment for criminals breeds a constant crop of “victims” which in turn keeps the field of potential voters ripe for the democratic picking.

  44. 1393

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 8/6/06 at 11:54 pm

    44

    To quote Joel Connelly’s quote of Mike? Who:

    “I am not only campaigning for a Senate seat, I am campaigning against a process poisonous to this country. I will campaign against these tactics wherever they are housed, including my party.”

    Oh really? Has ANYONE heard McGavick criticize Karl Rove? George W. Bush? The Swift Boat Liars? No, didn’t think so. More bullshit from a shill for the Party of Bullshitters.

  45. 1394

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 8/6/06 at 11:57 pm

    46

    Hey JCH (I’ll skip the “doctor” part because you’re no more a doctor than you are a Navy aviator), maybe you could explain why that socialist enclave, the People’s Republic of Washington, has the most liberal gun laws in the country except for Alaska?

    In that liberal bastion of gun control called “Seattle,” a handgun registration initiative went down by 3-to-1, and nobody gets prosecuted for blowing away home invaders.

  46. 1395

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 8/6/06 at 11:58 pm

    46

    Oh yeah, one more thing — in case you were wondering, yes, I have a CCW permit … so don’t fuck with me.

  47. 1396

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 8/6/06 at 11:59 pm

    50

    Not that I need a gun … my powerful hind feet with razor sharp claws will do the job just dandy. http://www.thegunzone.com/mos/edged_weapon.html

  48. 1397

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 8/7/06 at 12:11 am

    BREAKING NEWS: U.S. LOSES PRUDHOE BAY OIL PRODUCTION BECAUSE OF CORRODED PIPELINE

    British Petroleum announced tonight it is shutting down Prudhoe Bay oil production because of pipeline corrosion. The U.S. is expected to lose 8% of domestic production indefinitely. A Japanese analyst said the shutdown could cause world oil prices to rise $10 a barrel.

  49. 1398

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 8/7/06 at 12:13 am

    The Associated Press reports tonight,

    “In a sudden blow to the nation’s oil supply, half the production on Alaska’s North Slope was being shut down Sunday after BP Exploration Alaska, Inc. discovered severe corrosion in a Prudhoe Bay oil transit line.

    “BP officials said they didn’t know how long the Prudhoe Bay field would be off line. ‘I don’t even know how long it’s going to take to shut it down,’ said Tom Williams, BP’s senior tax and royalty counsel.

    “Once the field is shut down, in a process expected to take days, BP said oil production will be reduced by 400,000 barrels a day. That’s close to 8 percent of U.S. oil production as of May 2006 or about 2.6 percent of U.S. supply including imports, according to data from the U.S. Energy Information Administration.

    …

    “A 400,000-barrel per day reduction in output would have a major impact on oil prices, said Tetsu Emori, chief commodities strategist at Mitsui Bussan Futures in Tokyo. ‘Oil prices could increase by as much as $10 per barrel given the current environment,’ Emori said.”

    This article is quoted under the Fair Use doctrine; for complete story and/or copyright info, see http://articles.news.aol.com/b.....3?cid=2194

  50. 1399

    Desert spews:

    Monday, 8/7/06 at 12:35 am

    Had to comment on the good General. OMG

  51. 1400

    ArtFart spews:

    Monday, 8/7/06 at 1:09 am

    51-52: Hmmm…The Republicans just passed a law to make the FHA issue zero-down-payment mortgages to try and keep the roof from falling in on the real estate market before the election…and now this.

    They can print money easily enough. Let’s see if they can figure out how to print gasoline.

  52. 1401

    David Wright spews:

    Monday, 8/7/06 at 2:20 am

    Roger @42: You don’t read very carefully before firing off responses, do you? In that post, I drew a distinction between the legal case that the court will decide and the political case that this lawsuit should convince voters not to vote for McGavick. I was very clear in my post that Goldy is absolutely right that his help has no bearing on the merits of the legal case. However, his involvement does have a bearing on the political case he trying to use the lawsuit to make to the voters of this state.

  53. 1402

    Joe Libertarian spews:

    Monday, 8/7/06 at 4:37 am

    I was going to say… o nevermind. next time then

  54. 1403

    LeftTurn spews:

    Monday, 8/7/06 at 6:36 am

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14219844/

    And THIS is the exaple the righties always use to justify that drilling in ANWR will be safe. Sure it will.

  55. 1404

    LeftTurn spews:

    Monday, 8/7/06 at 6:40 am

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14226376/

    another shining example of the right and their morals – well at least this is one less fucking crook for us to deal with long term

  56. 1405

    klake spews:

    Monday, 8/7/06 at 7:11 am

    1. Christ was crucified by a bunch of Republicans.
    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 8/6/06@ 11:18 pm
    Why do you care Roger your religion is liberalism.

  57. 1406

    KlakeSucksDick spews:

    Monday, 8/7/06 at 7:12 am

    hey gold…looks like you got more ink in the PI today. . . you’re becoming famous. it’s a right wingers’ nightmare!

  58. 1407

    rhp6033 spews:

    Monday, 8/7/06 at 7:41 am

    “But in a statement released by his campaign Monday morning, the six-term congressman from Heath in central Ohio said he would not run for a seventh term.

    “Ultimately this decision came down to my family. I must think of them first, and I can no longer put them through this ordeal,” Ney said.”

    Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14226376/

    Translation: “My own polling showed that I didn’t have a chance in hell of winning, and the Republican party said they weren’t going to waste any money trying to help me. Faced with having to put my own money into a race I was sure to lose, I’ll take “retirement” instead. I won’t resign, either, I still have a few months to sell my votes to special interest groups in order to guarantee my comfortable retirement, or my next career as an industry lobbyist”.

  59. 1408

    rhp6033 spews:

    Monday, 8/7/06 at 7:50 am

    RR at 45: “Note: Low Tax Looper is serving life without parole at Brushy Mountain Penitentiary.”

    I’ve visited quite a few prisons, and I once visited Brushy Mountain State Prison as part of a class project. It has to rank as the most depressing prison I ever saw. One side of the prison isn’t even a wall – it’s a high cliff which would be very difficult (but not impossible) to climb.

    It wasn’t that big, but everyone there had life terms or its equivilent, so there was no attempt to “rehabilitate” the inmates. They were just warehoused there until they died. They got up, ate, spent a couple of hours in the central courtyard staring into space, maybe visited the law library, ate again, repeat process, then go to bed.

  60. 1409

    rhp6033 spews:

    Monday, 8/7/06 at 7:52 am

    RR at 52: So, the Alaska Pipeline is shut down, in the middle of the summer driving season, for “urgent repairs”?

    Gee, maybe its needed, maybe not, maybe they were negligent for allowing it to get so rusted before they did ongoing maintenance. But for some reason, all I can hear is that telephone recording of the Enron folks, telling the nuclear plant operators to find a reason to shut down for “maintenance” issues, in the midst of California brown-outs.

  61. 1410

    rhp6033 spews:

    Monday, 8/7/06 at 8:08 am

    News note: Concerned that Cheney might be shooting more conservative Republican lawyers, Michigan has announced that this year they will instead open a “liberal hunting season”.

    http://michiganoutdoornews.com...../news1.txt

  62. 1411

    rhp6033 spews:

    Monday, 8/7/06 at 8:29 am

    DW at 58: It is true that the filing of a lawsuit is not, by itself, a political point.

    But as RR said, the problem is that although many may be damaged by the apparant Safeco political donation, only stockholders would have the legal standing to bring a lawsuit to compel the directors to answer the relevent question: “What, if anything, did Safeco buy from Mike McGavick for 28 million? This is similar to the problem faced for years by environmental groups, compelling Justice Douglas to ask whether trees were the only ones with legal standing to sue for pollution which threatens to kill them?

    If not for the lawsuit, Safeco and McGavick could avoid answer this important question until long after the election. The stockholder derivative lawsuit may compel him to answer, under oath, in advance.

  63. 1412

    rhp6033 spews:

    Monday, 8/7/06 at 8:31 am

    Anybody notice that Mike “I got Mine” McGavick is STILL ducking answering most of the important questions? Like how he would vote on the bills currently being decided in the Senate?

  64. 1413

    HAD ENOUGH YET? spews:

    Monday, 8/7/06 at 8:55 am

    48,
    actually JC Herman is a kind of doctor.
    He’s a Rug Doctor.
    Living in Algona.
    In a trailer.
    With a huge collection of porn and guns.

  65. 1414

    pbj spews:

    Monday, 8/7/06 at 9:10 am

    Joel COnnely spanks Goldestein:

    “On the horsesass.org Web site, which helped spawn the lawsuit, founder David Goldstein held forth last Thursday: “McGavick’s midlife conversion to ‘civility’ is a joke to anyone who remembers the vicious campaign he ran on behalf of Slade Gorton.”

    Not true, Goldie, and you didn’t even live here then.”

    Hey Philly punk- YOU are NOT a Washington NATIVE!

  66. 1415

    PBJSucksDick spews:

    Monday, 8/7/06 at 9:17 am

    Some people don’t realize that you get to vote in Washington if you’re a current resident and you don’t have to be a native to have an opinion. Of course PBJ proves you don’t even have to be a human to have an opinion. And it looks to me like Joel is a little concerned over the competition here at HA!

  67. 1416

    pbj spews:

    Monday, 8/7/06 at 9:40 am

    “Some people don’t realize that you get to vote in Washington if you’re a current resident and you don’t have to be a native to have an opinion.” – Foul mouthed punk

    Some people don’t realize that you get to vote in Washington even if you are not a US citizen. Some people don’t realize that you get to vote in Washington even if you are not alive. Democrats definitely have a lock on the flat liner, and foul mouthed punk demographic.

  68. 1417

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 8/7/06 at 9:47 am

    87

    “Some people don’t realize that you get to vote in Washington even if you are not a US citizen. Some people don’t realize that you get to vote in Washington even if you are not alive. Democrats definitely have a lock on the flat liner, and foul mouthed punk demographic.” Commentby pbj— 8/7/06@ 9:40 am

    Bullshit! PROVE that non-citizens are allowed to vote in Washington — proof please, you fucking liar! And inasmuch as ALL of the known “dead votes” were for Rossi, your bitching about “dead voters” is like a cigar smoker whining about second-hand smoke. Nothing but GOP-liar propaganda. The election contest proved all the vote fraud and cheating in this state is coming from your side.

  69. 1418

    Another TJ spews:

    Monday, 8/7/06 at 9:48 am

    Joel COnnely spanks Goldestein:

    “On the horsesass.org Web site, which helped spawn the lawsuit, founder David Goldstein held forth last Thursday: “McGavick’s midlife conversion to ‘civility’ is a joke to anyone who remembers the vicious campaign he ran on behalf of Slade Gorton.”

    Not true, Goldie, and you didn’t even live here then.”

    Hey Philly punk- YOU are NOT a Washington NATIVE!

    I’ve lived here the better part of the last 35 years, including when Slade the Blade was advised by Mike? to demonize anyone who dared disagree with him. Mike?’s newfound civility is a joke to me.

    And, yes, Connelly’s been bitchy about Goldy’s success for some time now. He’s left several comments in the threads here, and not one that I’ve seen has been constructive. Each one has been, if not outright trolling, rather trollish.

  70. 1419

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 8/7/06 at 9:50 am

    79

    “Anybody notice that Mike “I got Mine” McGavick is STILL ducking answering most of the important questions? Like how he would vote on the bills currently being decided in the Senate?” Commentby rhp6033— 8/7/06@ 8:31 am

    Mike? Who is the problem, not the solution. While putting $28 million of the shareholders’ money into his own pocket, as a US Senator, he would turn around and vote for the CHEAP LABOR CONSERVATIVE agenda to steal tips from $7.36-an-hour waitresses! He would vote to put unintelligent bullshit in our public schools. He would vote for the corruption and incompetence of the Bush administration. He would vote for government spying on citizens whose only “crime” is to oppose the criminal Bush administration. This guy would rubberstamp the neoCON fascist agenda all the way down the line.

  71. 1420

    John425 spews:

    Monday, 8/7/06 at 10:17 am

    Hoooowwweeeee! Goldy was bitch-slapped by the P-I’s Joel Connelly.

  72. 1421

    pbj spews:

    Monday, 8/7/06 at 12:59 pm

    @71,

    “Bullshit! PROVE that non-citizens are allowed to vote in Washington – proof please, you fucking liar! And inasmuch as ALL of the known “dead votes” were for Rossi, your bitching about “dead voters” is like a cigar smoker whining about second-hand smoke. Nothing but GOP-liar propaganda. The election contest proved all the vote fraud and cheating in this state is coming from your side.”

    Here you go:

    At least two non-citizens voted in King County in November, according to county records.

    Chun C Chen of 7th Ave NE, Seattle
    and
    Ming Y Anderson of 6th Ave S, Seattle

    are listed in the Dec. 29 and Jan. 7 versions of the voter database as permanent absentee voters, credited with voting absentee in November 2004.

    They are also listed in the cancelled registrations file (which I obtained today pursuant to my public records request) as having their registrations cancelled earlier in 2005 with reason code “NOT A US CITIZEN”. Two other individuals have had their registrations cancelled since Nov. 1, 2004 for the same reason, but were not credited with voting.

    Ming Y Anderson is also credited with voting in the September 2004 primary, the February 2004 special election for the Seattle School District Levy and the November 2003 general election.

    Non-citizens are even harder to identify than felons and dead people as there don’t seem to be readily accessible databases with citizenship or immigration status data. But one suspects these two cases are just the tiny tip of a large iceberg.

    Yet another bit of Nazi liberal propaganda crushed.

  73. 1422

    pbj spews:

    Monday, 8/7/06 at 1:01 pm

    @71,

    Oh and Rabbit I want PROOF that ALL the DEAD votes were for Rossi!

    You are such a liar.

  74. 1423

    pbj spews:

    Monday, 8/7/06 at 1:07 pm

    Where is the foul mouthed Rabbit? Demands proof from others but never offers any himself. What in fac the election contest proved is that this state makes Tamany Hall look like a boy scout club.

  75. 1424

    Another TJ spews:

    Monday, 8/7/06 at 1:43 pm

    What in fac the election contest proved is that this state makes Tamany Hall look like a boy scout club.

    Either you don’t know a thing about Tammany Hall, or you don’t know anything about the election challenge. Which is it?

  76. 1425

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 8/7/06 at 4:14 pm

    75

    Scratch two more Republican voters.

  77. 1426

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 8/7/06 at 4:34 pm

    75 (continued)

    Of course, your post assumes these folks voted Democratic. Therefore you may be surprised to read this study’s conclusion that “Asians are the only group that is slightly more conservative than whites. … Asians favored NY Guiliani over Dinkins 3 to 1 when the city was very close overall. The 2000 election marks the first time Asian exit polls are firmly on the side of the Democratic presidential candidate … Asians are generally the most Conservative …. It’s not a myth — even in cities where Asians are overwhelmingly Democratic, they are less so than whites ….

    http://www.arthurhu.com/index/avote.htm

  78. 1427

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 8/7/06 at 4:34 pm

    75 (continued)

    Good work, pbj! You’re on the ball today — you unmasked two more cheatin’ Republicans!

  79. 1428

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 8/7/06 at 4:37 pm

    76

    As the news media reported last spring, all of the people who voted their dead spouses’ ballots who were willing to tell reporters who they cast those ballots for, said they voted for Rossi.

    Also, in case you’ve forgotten, a hand-picked Republican judge in a hand-picked Republican county found only Rossi received fraudulent votes, and reduced his vote total accordingly.

  80. 1429

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 8/7/06 at 4:38 pm

    77

    What in fact the election contest proved is that after spending $2 million on lawyers from the state’s best corporate law firm, the only thing the Republicans could prove to the satisfaction of their hand-picked Republican judge in their hand-picked Republican county is that their own candidate, Dino Rossi, was the only candidate who received fraudulent votes.

  81. 1430

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 8/7/06 at 4:39 pm

    77 (continued)

    The election contest also proved all the GOP post-recount propaganda about “voting fraud” and “stolen election” was hot air. Nothing but crybabies blowing smoke out of their asses.

  82. 1431

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 8/7/06 at 4:45 pm

    Let’s recap:

    Winner of 2004 governor’s election: http://www.governor.wa.gov/ass.....ugural.jpg

    Loser of 2004 governor’s election: http://www.cry-sis.org.uk/i/cryingbaby.gif

  83. 1432

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 8/7/06 at 4:46 pm

    80

    Hey asshole, if you want to advertise on this blog, buy some advertising space, you fucking FREELOADER. You must be a Republican!

  84. 1433

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 8/7/06 at 4:48 pm

    59

    “Why do you care Roger your religion is liberalism.” Commentby klake— 8/7/06@ 7:11 am

    When did I hire you as my spokesperson? Am I paying you? I’ll have to look into that. Meanwhile, if you’re going to speak for me, I expect you to get the basic facts straight. As I’ve posted on this web site before, I’m a practicing Christian — unlike the Republican Taliban who use religion as a political prop, I don’t steal from the waitress tip jar.

  85. 1434

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 8/7/06 at 5:22 pm

    Isn’t it fascinating that pbj, attempting to prove Democrats committed voting fraud, gives us two examples of non-citizens voting from the ethnic group most likely to vote Republican!

    You stepped on your dick, pbj!

    HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR

  86. 1435

    PBJ spews:

    Monday, 8/7/06 at 9:00 pm

    @79,80,81,82,83,84

    You are pretty lame Rabbit brain if you think typing up 2 paragraphs of crap and posting a link constitutes any sort of proof. It is well know that illegals vote for the election straling liberals every time.

    And the dead people were PROVEN Democrats!

    Once again you crooked crats are caught with red handed.

    Once again, Washington State does not even require you to be a citizen to vote – as long as you vote Democrat!

“The David Goldstein Show” tonight on Newsradio 710-KIRO

by Goldy — Sunday, 7/30/06, 5:22 pm

Tune in for another jam-packed “The David Goldstein Show” — Newsradio 710-KIRO, from 7PM to 10PM. Here’s the line-up, but as always, things could change depending on breaking news and guest availability.

7PM: Can Democrats win big in red state America? Democratic Gov. Brian Schweitzer of Montana joins me to discuss his own successful efforts to lead Democrats into the majority… and govern. With one of the highest net approval ratings in the nation, I’m guessing we have something to learn from Gov. Schweitzer. I particularly want to talk to Gov. Schweitzer about how he got out in front of state Republicans in issues of taxation, instead of just being reactive like WA Dems tend to be.

8PM: When the state Supreme Court upheld Washington’s Defense of Marriage Act this week, who exactly were they defending marriage from? Why, the gays, of course, especially The Stranger’s Dan Savage, who joins me in the studio to discuss the impact and fallout from the court’s decision. Is Dan’s long term, loving relationship and happy, healthy son a threat to your marriage? If so, give us a call and let him know.

9PM: Was Friday’s shooting at the Jewish Federation of Seattle a hate crime? An act of terrorism? Or just another example of a centuries old history of Islamic Christian violence? I’m opening the lines to discuss this and other current events. (Whad’ya bet I talk a little bit about Tim Eyman failing to qualify I-917 for the ballot?)

Tune in tonight (or listen to the live stream) and give me a call: 1-877-710-KIRO (5476).

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  1. 1436

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 7/30/06 at 7:23 pm

    oh boy here read this http://www.sp-usa.org/

  2. 1437

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 7/30/06 at 7:25 pm

    I like that Montana Gov. Dude he’s groovy man

  3. 1438

    REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX] spews:

    Sunday, 7/30/06 at 7:51 pm

    Dave, are your rating bigger than Rush’s yet? hehe, JCH

  4. 1439

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 7/30/06 at 7:58 pm

    rush who?

  5. 1440

    REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX] spews:

    Sunday, 7/30/06 at 7:59 pm

    City murder rate now 229
    Philadelphia Daily News, by David Gambacorta Original Article
    Posted By: NorthernDog – 7/30/2006 8:41:03 PM Post Reply
    A day after the mayor begged gun-toting thugs of all ages to “take a deep breath” before squeezing another trigger, three more people were shot to death in the city. The murders brought the city’s homicide total to 229 for the year, compared to 208 at this same point last year. [Philly, The Perfect Democrat City!! Not a Republican around for miles!! hehe, JCH]

  6. 1441

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 7/30/06 at 8:00 pm

    Socialist take care of people to

  7. 1442

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 7/30/06 at 8:01 pm

    thats probibly becoase they have all be shot

  8. 1443

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 7/30/06 at 8:05 pm

    REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Securit

    have you been playing with matches agein ?

  9. 1444

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 7/30/06 at 8:17 pm

    Demercrats good Socialist better

  10. 1445

    Living in the 8th spews:

    Sunday, 7/30/06 at 8:21 pm

    Somehow you found a way to blame christians for the Islamo-hatred of Jews violence this past week?

    Why are libs constantly excusing Islamofascist terrorism??

  11. 1446

    ArtFart spews:

    Sunday, 7/30/06 at 8:37 pm

    Re: the shooting incident…

    I had a history teacher in high school who told us that there are three categories of people who make history: the strong, the brave and the sick.

    I don’t see that Mr. Haq belongs to either of the first two.

  12. 1447

    sgmmac spews:

    Sunday, 7/30/06 at 9:34 pm

    He is not sick. He needs to be punished to the full extent of the law. I realize that is a stretch for the nannies in this state who will bust their asses trying to heal him, but leave him alone and let him stand trial. It is time for him to find out if Allah really has 72 virgins waiting for his dumb ass.

  13. 1448

    REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX] spews:

    Sunday, 7/30/06 at 10:30 pm

    Socialist take care of people to

    Commentby The Socialist— 7/30/06@ 8:00 pm

    thats probibly becoase they have all be shot

    Commentby The Socialist— 7/30/06@ 8:01 pm

    REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Securit

    have you been playing with matches agein ?

    Commentby The Socialist— 7/30/06@ 8:05 pm

    Demercrats good Socialist better

    Commentby The Socialist [……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………Roger Rabbit, Are you really “The Socialist”???? hehe, JCH]

  14. 1449

    REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX] spews:

    Sunday, 7/30/06 at 10:40 pm

    Larry Patterson, a former Arkansas state trooper and bodyguard to Bill and Hillary Clinton who related a series of lurid accusations about the couple, then said he heard the couple use anti-Semitic slurs “10 to 20” times. He asserts that he has heard Hillary use the term “Jew Bastard” and called President Clinton a “Jew Boy” and a “Mother Fucking Jew.” [6] [……………This must be OK because Hillary is a DEMOCRAT. hehe, JCH]

  15. 1450

    REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX] spews:

    Sunday, 7/30/06 at 10:42 pm

    Dr E, Too much bull shit. Not enough facts. Another F minus. [Don’t worry, you probably will still keep your NEA union job.]

  16. 1451

    REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX] spews:

    Sunday, 7/30/06 at 10:50 pm

    Los Angeles – Jewish groups have demanded Mel Gibson be investigated for hate crimes after the Hollywood star allegedly made anti-Semitic comments to US police officers when he was stopped on suspicion of drink-driving and speeding. /break/ Calling for a criminal investigation into the Oscar-winning actor and director’s remarks, Abraham Foxman, the national director of the US Jewish Anti-Defamation League, said: ”We believe there should be consequences to bigots and bigotry.” […………………………………………………………………………………..Fair enoungh, but I must have missed the “hate crime” investigation of Hillary against Dick Morris. Could any of you commie libs repost? hehe, JCH]

  17. 1452

    REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX] spews:

    Sunday, 7/30/06 at 10:53 pm

    Trenton,N.J. _ Nearly $350 million in the recently enacted state budget is going to lawmakers’ pet projects, mostly in districts represented by the ruling Democratic Party, according to a published report. The grants, included in the budget at the last minute amid a government shutdown, amount to only about 1 percent of the $30.8 billion budget, but represent nearly one-third of the proceeds from increasing the sales tax

    New Jersey = Corrupt
    New Jersey = controlled by Democrats

    Duh.

  18. 1453

    Dr. E spews:

    Sunday, 7/30/06 at 10:56 pm

    15

    What’s the grade for, Craig?

  19. 1454

    REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX] spews:

    Sunday, 7/30/06 at 11:00 pm

    The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) said actor and director Mel Gibson’s apology for hurling anti-Semitic invective at a police officer during his arrest for driving under the influence was “unremorseful and insufficient” and said his tirade “finally reveals his true self.” […………………………………………………………………………………………………………….Hey Libs!!!!!!! Please repost the ADL’s comments concerning Hillary and Dick Morris [“Fucking Jew Bastard”]. I can’t seem to google them. hehe, JCHG]

  20. 1455

    REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX] spews:

    Sunday, 7/30/06 at 11:01 pm

    18, I didn’t know we were on a first name basis. [The grade stands.]

  21. 1456

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 7/30/06 at 11:05 pm

    In a mailer he sent to my house trying to scam me for money-“We should put an end to abortion and those who practice it.” Sounds like he wants to kill abortion doctors to me. Too bad someone didn’t abort him and you for that matter.
    Commentby LeftTurn— 7/30/06@ 10:07 pm

    Could he have meant outlawing it through the passing of legistlation? You know kind of like what we are going to do with gay marriage if we get a couple more senators on board next time. Man you libs sure have trouble with words. Of course what do you expect from the crowd who hasn’t figured out what “is” is yet.

  22. 1457

    REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX] spews:

    Sunday, 7/30/06 at 11:14 pm

    In light of posts 14 and 19, why would 2 million American Jews vote for Hillary Clinton? [Hillary Clinton, Dick Morris: “Fucking Jew Bastard!”]

  23. 1458

    Nindid spews:

    Sunday, 7/30/06 at 11:46 pm

    Nice show Goldy. I know you are busy but any progress on moving over to a system that can improve the signal noise?

  24. 1459

    sgmmac spews:

    Monday, 7/31/06 at 12:30 am

    I wonder what the Anti-Defamation League would say about the thread below this one. You know the one that trivilizes the Terrorist Attack in Seattle by claiming the shooter was a Christian instead of a Muslim……….

  25. 1460

    darryl spews:

    Monday, 7/31/06 at 1:38 am

    sgmmac @ 25

    Consider reading the previous post again…read it very slowly. There is nothing trivialized about the killing in it. I sincerely doubt the Anti-Defamation League would have any problems with my post. (I mean, they probably have a reading comprehension beyond the sixth grade….)

    You are correct in that the killer was culturally Muslim. But he was spiritually Christian as witnessed by the fact that he had convert to Christianity last year and was baptized last December. Those are undisputable facts.

    The post was almost entirely a satirical mocking of the Wingnut reaction to this incident, even before anyone knew anything about the spiritual life of Mr. Haq. It was not a reaction to the incident itself. And, in case it was not obvious from your second reading of the post, I reject the notion that this was either an act of Islamic or Christian terrorism.

    I hope this little guided tour helps!

  26. 1461

    rhp6033 spews:

    Monday, 7/31/06 at 7:42 am

    #29: It seems Mr. Haq did a lot of back-and-forth. His father helped found an Islamic center in Kennewick, at one point last year Haq converted to Christianity, but several months ago appeared to drop away from the church. He was an engineer who couldn’t keep a job. Sounds to me like a very troubled man – at the same time rebelling from his father and trying to please him, too.

    I sincerely doubt religion, of any stripe, explains or motivates his actions. It sounds like a fundamentally troubled man who was trying to get attention from his father. If convicted, he will probably spend the rest of his life in jail trying to sort himself out.

  27. 1462

    sgmmac spews:

    Monday, 7/31/06 at 7:47 am

    Darryl,

    Haq was NOT a Christian. Because he got baptized and attended a Christian Church doesn’t make him a Christian. He said he was a Muslim. To assume that he was trying to blame it on Muslims is stretching it a bit. He was raised Muslim and he is what he believes he is, not what you, me, or anyone believes he is.

    Does he have troubles – probably. The same problems that you, me and Boo across the street have. It is not uncommon for people who are unhappy with their lives to look for God, sex, or anything that they think will make their lives complete. Some people are totally compulsive with buying new “toys.”

    There are many Christian Terrorists in the world today, this guy just isn’t one of them. I consider some of the extreme far-right guys potential terrorists. There isn’t any difference in a far-right Christian screaming looney and a screaming looney Imam preaching death and destruction to anyone who isn’t converted to their “brand” of religion. The Irish have Christian terrorists.

    When you use the fact that he was exploring Christianity as a point to “slam” the religious right to get in your political points, you are in fact trivalizing the fact that Jewish people have been persecuted and targeted for extermination for centuries. It also glosses over the hatred that the Jewish people have to put up with on a DAILY basis.

    Look at what Mel Gibson did, he is a fundamentalist Catholic and many of them blame the Jewish people for the death of Jesus. We are talking right now, today, 21st Century , those ideas are still out there……….lurking. Your story fed into those basic beliefs and attitudes, rather than expose them for what they are.

    Have a Great Day!

  28. 1463

    cowpotpi3 spews:

    Monday, 7/31/06 at 8:40 am

    Why the christian backlash here? In fact why can’t people call this what it really was: a mentally ill guy who snapped. Yes I agree that the media sometimes generalizes when Muslims are involved, but how does casting this guy as a “Christian” work?

    If you believe that the media made a mistake in calling Haq a “Muslim American” and you suggest we should smear him as a “Christian American” instead, then you’ve descended into a pit of hypocrisy that you’re in danger of never climbing out of. If as a “progressive” you want to seize the moral high ground, this really is not the way to go about it. I’m all for calling a spade a spade with respect to Christians in America and their foibles, but I’m not ready to surrender my own morality to do so.

  29. 1464

    LeftTurn spews:

    Monday, 7/31/06 at 9:21 am

    The Christians are all deciding for us who is Christian and who is not when their own God clearly states it’s not up to them. More Christian hypocrisy.

  30. 1465

    darryl spews:

    Monday, 7/31/06 at 9:30 am

    Haq was NOT a Christian. Because he got baptized and attended a Christian Church doesn’t make him a Christian. He said he was a Muslim.”

    Yes…in fact, he is a Christian. Last December he publicly affirmed that fact through renouncing Islam and being Baptized in a community ceremony. A witness reported that Haq said he was Muslim-American, but…um…he was also shooting people at the time!

    To assume that he was trying to blame it on Muslims is stretching it a bit.

    Rrrright. But I wasn’t seriously proposing that he was trying to blaspheme Islam. The fact that you even suggest this indicates that you didn’t understand the post. (I blame myself—the satire is presented somewhat dead-pan; I usually write this type of material for my own blog or Jesus’ General where readers expect satire.)

    Does he have troubles – probably. The same problems that you, me and Boo across the street have.

    Well, I don’t know about you, but Boo and I have not been treated for mental illness for 10 years; nor, medicated for mental illness. Additionally, Boo and I have yet to go to a mall, climb down into a coin fountain, and expose ourselves to young women.

    There are many Christian Terrorists in the world today, this guy just isn’t one of them.

    I completely agree with you. But, I would go farther and claim that he isn’t an Islamic Terrorist either.

    When you use the fact that he was exploring Christianity as a point to “slam” the religious right to get in your political points, you are in fact trivalizing the fact that Jewish people have been persecuted and targeted for extermination for centuries.

    Ummm…he wasn’t “exploring” Christianity. He, factually, was a Christian. But, in any case, my post was not a slam to the religious right, per se. It was a slam to the reaction in the right-leaning political blogosphere’s reaction. While it is possible that I am in some way trivializing the Jewish experience, I don’t really think you understand enough of what I wrote to be able to make a definitive statement about it.

    Look at what Mel Gibson did, he is a fundamentalist Catholic and many of them blame the Jewish people for the death of Jesus. We are talking right now, today, 21st Century , those ideas are still out there……….lurking. Your story fed into those basic beliefs and attitudes, rather than expose them for what they are.

    Mel Gibson is a bigot (and possibly a drunk). I find it interesting that you could somehow read my post as feeding Jewish bigotry. After posting on HA, I wrote a non-satirical follow-up on my blog. That might help you understand the points I was making.

  31. 1466

    For the Clueless spews:

    Monday, 7/31/06 at 9:32 am

    38 – You must be pretty new here. Darryl was satirizing the mentality of the wingnuts that come here to test their broken ideology.

    The knee-jerk bigotry of the wingnuts came out clearly. When a crime is committed by person with a muslim background, first they shout “Terror” and then they shout “Arab”. They played according to their conditioning script.

    The shooter was a Pakistani with not a drop of Arab blood and to top it all off he wasn’t even a muslim in a strict sense. No devout muslim would consider a person baptized in a Christian Church as muslim and many devout Christians would recognize that he took a crucial step in abandoning Islam by being baptized.

    As you said the shooter was probably mentally ill and apparently had no ties to any organized terror group.

  32. 1467

    Nindid spews:

    Monday, 7/31/06 at 9:34 am

    Cow @38 It was a satire. As Darryl says above he was making fun of those folks who were ready to jump up and down screaming about Muslims (see above) when the guy was actually a Christian.

    You took him wrong – he was making fun of the reaction, not seriously suggesting anyone smear Christians.

  33. 1468

    Nindid spews:

    Monday, 7/31/06 at 9:37 am

    Sorry sarge, but if being baptized a Christian and attending a Christian church does not make you a Christian, then either you have a direct line to God or you are talking out of your ass. I am leaning in one direction here….

    Why are you going through such BS to try and prove that a baptized and church-going Christian was not a Christian? Maybe that simple little Fox News world isn’t so simple? Nah… that couldn’t be it.

  34. 1469

    darryl spews:

    Monday, 7/31/06 at 9:47 am

    Cowpitpi3

    In fact why can’t people call this what it really was: a mentally ill guy who snapped.

    That works for me!

    Yes I agree that the media sometimes generalizes when Muslims are involved, but how does casting this guy as a “Christian” work?

    There was no “casting” involved. He is a Christian. Not that I think that had anything to do with his actions directly, mind you…. I mean, renouncing Islam and adoption of Christianity probably contributed to his feelings of isolation from and diaappointment to his family. And, he may not have found in Christianity what he though he would find. That may have contributed dissonance to his life. But this guy had a lot of problems.

    If you believe that the media made a mistake in calling Haq a “Muslim American” and you suggest we should smear him as a “Christian American” instead, then you’ve descended into a pit of hypocrisy that you’re in danger of never climbing out of.

    Yes…indeed. But if I were seriously calling for suspicious Christians to be rounded up and put into internment camps in New Mexico, I would already be past that point, wouldn’t I?

    If as a “progressive” you want to seize the moral high ground, this really is not the way to go about it.

    Apparently, you did not catch the satirical nature of the post. I ask that you read the post again…carefully. Alternatively, check out my follow-up post (click on my name).

  35. 1470

    pbj spews:

    Monday, 7/31/06 at 11:13 am

    How could this possibly be? AQter all, the evil neocons are supposed to be suppressing dissent in every form according to the liberal intelligentsia. Yet this blog is still here, Goldstein is still on the radio.

    Do you crazy liberals know how silly you look when you make such stupid accusations? You complain that free speech is being curtailed, yet Goldstein has his own radio show. Regular Americans see right through that hypocrisy.

  36. 1471

    Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    Monday, 7/31/06 at 11:13 am

    I have a modest proposal. . . .

  37. 1472

    Dr. E spews:

    Monday, 7/31/06 at 11:21 am

    pbj

    Just wondering: What do “regular Americans” make of the so-called “free-speech zones” that anti-Bush protesters are often shunted into when the President makes a public appearance? Pro-Bush supporters are not shunted into such zones, but dissenters often get fenced off in officially sanctioned protest areas that are usually a considerable distance from the actual appearance site? Does such inequality of access constitute a limiting of the right of assembly and freedom of expression?

  38. 1473

    Desert spews:

    Monday, 7/31/06 at 11:43 am

    I am so glad that I found you on KIRO. I gave up on them last January when all my fav hosts seem to disappear. Just by accident I heard you last night, and now they have me back for at least one night a week. Glad to find you and your blog. LOVE IT.

  39. 1474

    sgmmac spews:

    Monday, 7/31/06 at 12:39 pm

    Nindid,

    Haq is a Muslim and attended Friday prayers at his Mosque two weeks ago. Most Christians believe that you have to accept Jesus into your heart and accept him as your savior before you are considered a Christian. Being Baptized is merely a symbolic ritual of washing away one’s sins. It certainly doesn’t make you a Christian, unless you believe it. Normally you have also done other things for atonement before the Baptism.

    I did read Darryl’s article on his blog and I liked it a lot better.

  40. 1475

    REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX] spews:

    Monday, 7/31/06 at 1:00 pm

    Right now, the minimum wage is $5.15 an hour. Except for workers who rely on tips, this is the least amount of money an employer is allowed to pay somebody they have employed legally. The argument that is always trotted out for raising it is that this is not a “living wage.” How is a single mother supposed to raise a family on $5.15 an hour? That’s what we always hear from politicians. With that in mind, it’s time for some insensitivity training when it comes to the minimum wage.

    First of all, if you are trying to raise a family on $5.15 an hour, you are a loser. Entry-level jobs that pay minimum wage are not meant for somebody trying to raise a family. They’re meant for kids in school or adults with minimum job skills. Basically people trying to get out and earn a little extra money. It’s not meant to support a family. If you have kids and $5.15 an hour is the best you can do, it is your own fault that you brought those kids into this world without the means to provide for them.

    It is not the job of an employer to step in and cover for the irresponsibility of some fool that thinks they can raise a family without any job skills.

    Second, what happens when the minimum wage is raised? Prices for the goods and services provided by those workers rise right along with their wages. If a restaurant employs 10 people at $5.15 an hour and the minimum wage goes up to $6, then guess what? That means the hourly labor costs of that restaurant just went up $8.50. Either some people are fired or the prices go up. That’s how it works.

    There is one more argument the left never seems to be able to counter. Why raise the minimum wage to only $6 or $7 an hour? Why not $10? $12? Surely it takes at least $20 an hour to raise a family, so why not make the minimum wage $20 an hour? Just think of all the people we could lift out of poverty if we were to raise the minimum wage to $20 … or even more? If any of you are successful in getting an answer to that question, let me know.

    Another question — why won’t the media explain the union connection to all of this? Many union contracts out there have a clause in them that ties minimum union wages to an index based on the minimum wage. When the minimum wage goes up … so do these union wages. Now you understand why unions are behind this increase.

    Oh .. one more thing. I’m still looking in our Constitution for some provision that allows the Imperial Federal Government to set wages between private employers and private employees. Can’t find it.

  41. 1476

    Darryl spews:

    Monday, 7/31/06 at 1:28 pm

    sgmmac @ 49

    “Most Christians believe that you have to accept Jesus into your heart and accept him as your savior before you are considered a Christian. Being Baptized is merely a symbolic ritual of washing away one’s sins.”

    Baptism is much more than a symbolic ritual….While the meaning and interpretation of Baptism differs among denominations, many denominations read literally Mark 16:16 quoting Jesus, “He who believes and is baptized will be saved.”

    Typically, denominations that practice adult Baptism require some period of self-study, group study, meetings with a pastor, and some mastery of the principles of the religion and the denomination prior to the Baptism (not unlike the work required prior to “confirmation” in Catholic or mainstream Lutheran churches).

    BTW: when I visit my parents, I sometimes visit their church with them. It doesn’t mean I embrace their particular religion/denomination. So I don’t take too much from the observation that Haq recently attended his parent’s Mosque once. His visit is even less surprising, given that he was rapidly reaching a crisis in his personal life. There is no evidence that he rescinded his renouncement Islam as his religion.

    So, sgmmac, do you really believe that he was acting as an Islamic terrorist? Do you think he was part of a terrorist cell? Was he training for this as a mission? Was he studying Islamic extremism? Do you believe he premeditated his actions and systematically and calmly undertook his murder spree as a mission? Do you believe he was doing it in the name of Allah?

    Or, were the injustices he perceived in the Middle East more akin to the straw that broke the camel’s back?

  42. 1477

    sgmmac spews:

    Monday, 7/31/06 at 3:04 pm

    Darryl,

    I’ve been to many different churches, but that doesn’t make me religious. It is what each individual feels. That said, this boy was raised Muslim. When you are raised in a very religious family, the religion molds you into who and what you are. It is very hard for people to break away from their culture, their environment, their family values, their history. It is worse with the more extreme religions. When the violence erupted, he took it personally because he identifies himself as a Muslim.
    Do I think he is part of a group, no, I don’t think so. I don’t know about the training, that is a possibility. It is interesting that the pregnant woman was shot in the arm and the others in the stomach. It isn’t abnormal for people who own guns – to train with them.

    If his father is/was involved, we might well be fucked, because he works at Hanford. Did he calmly plan this as a mission? Yes, he did. He went and got the guns, the ammo and searched for a site that would have a large congregation of Jewish people. How many days after Al Zawhiri’s tape was this? I have no idea if he was studying radical Islamic teachings, but it wouldn’t surprise me. He was obviously looking for something and to somehow fit into this big world of ours. He sounds like he fits the profile of a rampaging killer.

    He is not crazy though, he needs to grow up and accept responsibility for his actions and his decisions. He highly deserves to be tried as a capital murderer.

  43. 1478

    Church Secretary spews:

    Tuesday, 8/1/06 at 1:04 pm

    Shorter sgmmac: You can take the man out of Islam, but you can never take Islam out of the man. So this dude is completely responsible for his actions as an individual, but we just have to take a shot at Islam while we’re at it? It would save a lot of time if you’d quit rationalizing and just come out and say it: “I am an anti-Islamic bigot.”

  44. 1479

    qH0nK03rfW spews:

    Tuesday, 8/1/06 at 4:50 pm

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  45. 1480

    i3HrHMgdwd spews:

    Wednesday, 8/2/06 at 7:44 am

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“The David Goldstein Show” tonight on Newsradio 710-KIRO

by Goldy — Sunday, 7/23/06, 4:24 pm

I can’t stand the heat so I’m getting into a cool, air-conditioned studio tonight on “The David Goldstein Show” — Newsradio 710-KIRO, from 7PM to 10PM. Here’s the line-up, but as always, things could change depending on breaking news and guest availability.

7PM: Hot enough for you? Sure feels like global warming. Is modern society to blame for our massive carbon emissions? Or perhaps “God has already started punishing us” for abandoning his ways? We’re gonna talk about the weather… and if that doesn’t get folks hot underneath the collar, perhaps we’ll spend a little time talking about the escalating war in Lebanon.

8PM: Is our democracy being undermined by greedy corporate interests? Political strategist, journalist and blogger David Sirota joins me to discuss his bestselling book HOSTILE TAKEOVER: How Big Money & Corruption Conquered Our Government — And How We take It Back. Sirota has served as a press secretary for Rep. Bernie Sanders, a fellow at the Center for American Progress and as a senior strategist to Gov. Brian Schweitzer of Montana. He is a frequent contributor to several national publications and a twice-weekly guest on The Al Franken Show. Sirota will be speaking and signing books Thursday, July 27, 7:30 PM at Seattle’s Town Hall.

9PM: Has the Republican Party abandoned its libertarian base? Are small “l” libertarians abandoning the Republican Party? Joining me to answer that question is local blogger Lee Rosenberg (Blog Reload,) a self-described libertarian and the co-host of the Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally. Huh? How can he be both? In a lengthy and oddly titled post, Lee explores the inherent contradictions of economic libertarian absolutism, and describes how an increasingly authoritarian Republican Party is driving social libertarians to support Democrats. Also, be sure to check out Glenn Greenwald’s controversial post: Libertarians and the Republican Party — Irreconcilable Differences.

Tune in tonight (or listen to the live stream) and give me a call: 1-877-710-KIRO (5476).

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  1. 1481

    Erik spews:

    Sunday, 7/23/06 at 4:36 pm

    Hmmm. I think you better update us on $30 tabs initiative too and Eyeman’s press conference tomorrow.

  2. 1482

    For the Clueless spews:

    Sunday, 7/23/06 at 4:46 pm

    Are you back in town? Doing a remote?

  3. 1483

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 7/23/06 at 4:55 pm

    Cheap labor conservatives don’t produce anything. They live on the labor of others. Making other people work so you don’t have to, is the whole point of being a Republican.

  4. 1484

    RonK, Seattle spews:

    Sunday, 7/23/06 at 5:01 pm

    Thought for the day — When life hands you Lebanons, make Lebanonade.

  5. 1485

    Mark The Redneck spews:

    Sunday, 7/23/06 at 5:04 pm

    If my SUV is the problem, then howcum there is also global warming on Mars? Are little green men there also driving SUVs?

  6. 1486

    Mark The Redneck spews:

    Sunday, 7/23/06 at 5:05 pm

    “…greedy corporate interests…” LMAO

    To be a librul, you have to believe that oppression comes from corporations and freedom comes from government.

    You guys really are pathetic fucking idiots…

  7. 1487

    Mark The Redneck spews:

    Sunday, 7/23/06 at 5:07 pm

    Read a great piece today called “Give War A Chance”. Read it at real clear politics… makes the case that Israel should go into Lebanon and clean out the assholes that are causing the problem. Only when your enemy’s ability to make war is destroyed can their be lasting peace.

  8. 1488

    LeftTurn spews:

    Sunday, 7/23/06 at 5:29 pm

    I think war is a great idea if we can get Mark The Cowardly Redneck and his ilk to go fight it.

  9. 1489

    Daniel K spews:

    Sunday, 7/23/06 at 5:31 pm

    Erik wrote: Hmmm. I think you better update us on $30 tabs initiative too and Eyeman’s press conference tomorrow.

    Who?

  10. 1490

    Mark The Redneck spews:

    Sunday, 7/23/06 at 5:40 pm

    It’s becoming increasingly clear that SOS office shitcanned 35,000 signatures for 917. Tim turned in 303,353 signatures and has the receipt from SOS to prove it.

    Queen Christine just plain doesn’t want to hear from all those Inconvenient People and their votes.

  11. 1491

    Green Thumb spews:

    Sunday, 7/23/06 at 5:42 pm

    Authoritarian personalities like MTR can’t grasp that life isn’t always white/black, either/or, good/evil. And as a narcissist, he assumes that everyone else thinks the same way he does (e.g., in No. 6 above).

    Thus, MTR thinks he is saying something intelligent when he insists that all liberals (re: anyone who disagrees with him) believe that only corporate oppression should be fought.

    It’s too bad that MTR’s brain operates with such simplistic dualities, because it keeps him from recognizing how much diversity of opinion there is on the “left” side of the political spectrum.

    The result is that MTR’s comments have a stick-figure quality. Yet everyone who disagrees with him is a “pathetic fucking idiot.”

    Quite the intellectual achievement, MTR.

  12. 1492

    Mark The Redneck spews:

    Sunday, 7/23/06 at 5:55 pm

    Thumb – Does it hurt to be so fucking stoopid? Here’s the way it works. I use my extensive education, superior intellect and lifetime of experiences to cut through the bullshit, apply fundamental principles and come up with a clear unambiguous answer to complex issues. In my work in the engineering business, I do it every fucking day and I am well compensated for it.

    You pathetic gummint bureaucrat parasites are under no such constraints. You can sit around all day and do your mental masturbation while forcing The Producers to pick up the tab.

  13. 1493

    Green Thumb spews:

    Sunday, 7/23/06 at 6:00 pm

    Beautifully put, MTR. You’re 11 on a scale of 10.

  14. 1494

    Mark The Redneck spews:

    Sunday, 7/23/06 at 6:10 pm

    Thumb – What you’re really trying to get to of course, is the particularly UnMurkan idea that political issues are so complex that The People should have no say in them because it is beyond their ability to comprehend. Instead, what you Murka Haters would like is for their to be a ruling class (which you would run according to moonbat religious doctrine) that would leave The People out of things.

    Sorry, not gonna happen. Those of us who really do have the intellect and moral character to decide the important issues of the day WILL be heard.

  15. 1495

    Mark The Redneck spews:

    Sunday, 7/23/06 at 6:11 pm

    Thumb – I challenged you yesterday to showcase your intellect here and take on the all knowing MTR on any topic. Haven’t seen a response yet.

    Didn’t think so…

  16. 1496

    For the Clueless spews:

    Sunday, 7/23/06 at 6:13 pm

    Welsher – you’re perceiving “hot” because your head is up your ass.

    Pay your gambling debt…

  17. 1497

    Green Thumb spews:

    Sunday, 7/23/06 at 6:33 pm

    Wow! Mark, your commentary is the gift that just keep on giving. You have the stage; what other pearls of wisdom do we desperately need to hear from you?

  18. 1498

    LeftTurn spews:

    Sunday, 7/23/06 at 7:16 pm

    GT don’t get into a battle of wits with an unarmed 13-year old sex offender. It’s beneath you. Mark the cowardly redneck is obviously sick.

  19. 1499

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 7/23/06 at 7:24 pm

    I think war is a great idea if we can get Mark The Cowardly Redneck and his ilk to go fight it.

    Commentby LeftTurn— 7/23/06@ 5:29 pm

    The republicans already do fight the wars. What? There are significant numbers of lefties in the military?hahahahahahahaha Why the hell do you think the left bends over backwards to keep the military from voting. Of course if DNC ever gets hit by terrorists I say we should practice restraint. You know tell the terrorists that we are sorry and to warn us the next time they attack. Hehehe

  20. 1500

    LeftTurn spews:

    Sunday, 7/23/06 at 7:45 pm

    Hey Ruffed up the ass how come you aren’t in Iraq? Don’t you support your pretend president? Maybe you think this is a good war only so long as you don’t have to go fight right? Fucking hypocrite coward.

  21. 1501

    Erik spews:

    Sunday, 7/23/06 at 7:52 pm

    It’s becoming increasingly clear that SOS office shitcanned 35,000 signatures for 917.

    Breaking news: the “SOS” is a republican who you voted for.

  22. 1502

    K spews:

    Sunday, 7/23/06 at 7:56 pm

    1. MTR discussing “moral character” always amuses me. Remember him condoning Eyeman lying to the religious folk “helping” him on the initiative?

    2. MTR never engaged on the issue of the peer review of climate change articles nor did he ever acknowledge his clear wrong-headedness on CFC’s. You will not see elevated skin cancer in Antarctica.

  23. 1503

    K spews:

    Sunday, 7/23/06 at 7:57 pm

    @21- MTR never let’s silly facts like how the government is really organized slow his arguements.

  24. 1504

    Green Thumb spews:

    Sunday, 7/23/06 at 8:10 pm

    I doubt anyone would be surprised if told that the military has an unusually large number of “conservatives” in its ranks. Why on earth would a pacifist join the Army?

    The problem with Rufus’ argument is that it never rises above white/black, good/evil dualities.

    For example, Rufus can’t acknowledge that a principled pacifist (as opposed to an opportunistic coward like Dick Cheney) can be as patriotic as an Army enlistee. The very idea would seem to make Rufus’ brain sputter like a defective fire cracker. Yet that equivalency is very much part of what it means to live in a nation built upon political pluralism. We have a right to disagree about war as much as anything else.

    Rufus also doesn’t acknowledge that people in the military are not a monolithic beast lacking in independent thinking skills. There were a host of distinguished military leaders who argued against the Iraq invasion, and recent opinion polls of soldiers stationed in Iraq hardly show unanimous support for the continuation of the American occupation.

    All wars are not created equal. One could go on and on quoting famous military leaders about the need for restraint in international relations. But such subtlety does not fit Rufus’ debating style, which has great similarities to MTR’s.

  25. 1505

    klake spews:

    Sunday, 7/23/06 at 8:13 pm

    Roger and Gang now that we are building a tunnel to replace the Alaska Viaduct today according to the Mayor of Seattle. Would you feel very safe that it will be completed like the one in Boston? Would the vision be like the Seattle Monorail and the progress like the light rail to nowhere and the service like Metro Bus service? What would be the final cost (like the big dig in Boston) for this project and how much will the Taxpayers have to pay in hidden taxes? Will it have six lanes that merge into two in the middle of the tunnel and exits to nowhere? You know like I5 in Seattle that they have no expectation to fix due to lack of engineering skill sets for the leaders running the city of Seattle. Hell lets have Roger Rabbit do all the digging and save lots of money on the project.

    July 23, 2006
    BOSTON –Only 4 percent of Massachusetts adults would feel “very” safe driving through the tunnels of the Big Dig, according to a poll taken in the aftermath of a collapse that killed a motorist. The poll, published in The Boston Sunday Globe, found that 68 percent would feel “not very” or “not at all” safe driving through the tunnels.

    http://www.boston.com/news/loc.....n_big_dig/

  26. 1506

    Mark The Redneck spews:

    Sunday, 7/23/06 at 8:48 pm

    Do Mommy Erf a favor and
    Don’t Recycle
    .

  27. 1507

    Mark The Redneck spews:

    Sunday, 7/23/06 at 8:49 pm

    Do Mommy Erf a favor and
    Don’t Drive a Hybrid
    .

  28. 1508

    Green Thumb spews:

    Sunday, 7/23/06 at 8:52 pm

    So Mark, how’s your love life these days? Are you just dating, or are you getting serious with anyone? If latter, is she very different from you ex?

  29. 1509

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 7/23/06 at 10:02 pm

    24

    You are entitled to your own opinion GT but not to your own facts. In the military you will always have a small minority of people who are against war. That said the overwhelming majority is for it. We are not in a draft situation so there are plenty of republicans who are serving right now. The most important thing the average republican can do right now vote in large numbers to overcome those soldiers who vote will not count. The fight at home is just as important as the fight abroad.

  30. 1510

    ArtFart spews:

    Sunday, 7/23/06 at 10:11 pm

    #5 Hey, Mark…why don’t you take your SUV to Mars and find out?

  31. 1511

    LeftTurn spews:

    Sunday, 7/23/06 at 10:11 pm

    Don’t you just love it when the soldier of fortune wannabe types who dodged the draft and then avoided combat or military service like a $2 whore hold court on military tactics? Fucking right wing hypocrite cowards like MTR are the exact reason we shoudn’t be in Iraq.

  32. 1512

    Puddybud Michael Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 7/23/06 at 10:52 pm

    So leftturd when they come over here I’ll be sure to send them looking for you.

    I’ll enumerate some of your wonderful qualities, similar to those most islamofascists hate. You have others but I have shown them over and over already.

    Gay Marriage
    Abortion
    Accusing others of lies without proof
    Wanting to break marriage vows of others
    Hinting at sex out of wedlock

  33. 1513

    Puddybud Michael Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 7/23/06 at 10:53 pm

    I also forgot, you hate religion. Well when the bearded mullahs come to you what will you say leftturdy?

  34. 1514

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 7/23/06 at 11:31 pm

    5

    Shut up and pay your gambling debt, welsher.

  35. 1515

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 7/23/06 at 11:32 pm

    6

    Corporations give workers over age 50 freedom from employment.

  36. 1516

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 7/23/06 at 11:33 pm

    7

    If you love the god of war so much, why don’t you offer yourself as a sacrifice?

  37. 1517

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 7/23/06 at 11:35 pm

    10

    “Queen Christine just plain doesn’t want to hear from all those Inconvenient People and their votes.” Commentby Mark The Redneck— 7/23/06@ 5:40 pm

    Hey dummy, the SOS is a Republican. Pay your gambling debt.

  38. 1518

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 7/23/06 at 11:36 pm

    11

    The real reason MTR can’t attract women, besides being a wife beater and woman hater, is because he’s queer. He and Pudpounder love each other.

  39. 1519

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 7/23/06 at 11:40 pm

    12

    “Here’s the way it works. I use my extensive education, superior intellect and lifetime of experiences to cut through the bullshit, apply fundamental principles and come up with a clear unambiguous answer to complex issues. In my work in the engineering business, I do it every fucking day and I am well compensated for it.”

    Hey Einstein, does your extensive education, superior intellect, and lifetime of experiences work on SIMPLE problems, too? OK, here’s a SIMPLE problem for you to solve:

    You made a bet.
    You lost.
    Pay up.

  40. 1520

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 7/23/06 at 11:42 pm

    19

    “The republicans already do fight the wars.” Commentby RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy— 7/23/06@ 7:24 pm

    Not including you, the other trolls on this board, or any serving GOP congressman, not to mention the Coward in Chief.

  41. 1521

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 12:56 am

    24

    The military may not be as Republican as MTR and Doofus would like to think it is. (But then, never having served, how would they know?)

    “Corps Voters”

    “For over two decades, the bond between the GOP and the U.S. military has been getting stronger. Since the invasion of Iraq, that may be changing.”

    “By Benjamin Wallace-Wells

    ” … The American military is composed of thousands of men and women who have made … deeply personal … contracts with their friends and families: The soldiers promise to die, if needed, to defend your freedoms, and the civilians promise to honor them. … “Six months ago, that patriotic support extended to President Bush and the Republican Party. …

    “But these attitudes have begun to change. … Soldiers’ wives ask reporters why their husbands are still being sent off to Iraq … months after the president said the war was over. Returned reservists, who saw their return dates pushed back again and again while they sat in a chaotic war zone, … say they didn’t sign up for this sort of treatment, and they won’t be reenlisting. …

    “‘I’m a strong Republican, but the Republicans have been the problem; we’ve been treated like second-class citizens,’ a retired Vietnam Marine helicopter gunnery sergeant named Don Beaver told me in North Carolina.

    “Elsie P. Smith, the town’s Republican mayor, says: ‘There’s a few people who have become very hostile [towards the Bush administration]. . . the longer the war goes on, the more of that subtle shift you’re going to see.’ … Rep. Walter B. Jones Jr. (R-N.C.) … said the administration treats vets like ‘second-class citizens.’ …

    “A similar mood is emerging in small, patriotic towns around the country. According to a study … by Stars and Stripes, half of American soldiers in-country say their units have low morale, that they were insufficiently trained, and that they won’t reenlist. …

    “Holly Rossi, whose husband, Rob, is an Army reserve engineer out of Londonderry, N.H., has watched the Family Support Group for his unit, wives who started the war as staunch pro-Bush patriots, come to doubt the political mission. ‘A lot of people feel tugged. We have built our lives around … patriotism no matter what, but we’re feeling very abandoned.’ Charles Carter, a retired Naval chief petty officer, told Knight Ridder: ‘I will vote non-Republican in a heartbeat if it continues as is.’ Carter’s opinion is representative. While the GOP hasn’t lost the military vote, if present trends continue, it could see substantial defections in one of its core constituencies. …

    “Trying to suss out the voting patterns of the military, and the ways in which their professional frustrations and satisfactions spill over into politics, has always been a murky, Kremlinology-like game …. Scholars who study the politics of the military rely on what scraps of data they can assemble …. (T)he consensus view seems to be that the military as a whole votes Republican by a margin of slightly less than 2-to-1, with enlisted men and women Republican by 3-to-2, and Republicans outnumbering Democrats among officers by 8-to-1. …

    “Historians think that during World War II, when most soldiers had grown up during the Roosevelt ’30s, the military was more Democratic than Republican. By the early ’60s, the ranks reflected the conservatism of the 1950s. Vietnam made the military even more conservative … (then) the all-volunteer military … gave the troops a different demographic cast. They were disproportionately Southern, rural, poor, and morally traditional – the cultural base which would drive Nixon’s Southern Majority and, 30 years later, Red America … perhaps more importantly, scholars say, men who had fought in Vietnam (felt) they had been abandoned by American liberals …. A profound cultural divide appeared to develop between civilians and the military …. Reagan’s … massaging of the military’s damaged, wound-licking ego, ‘gave the military back the respect it felt had been stripped from it by liberals after Vietnam,’ said David Segal of the University of Maryland, a sociologist who studies the American military. Soldiers became not only more Republican, but also more overtly political ….

    “One important moderating influence, sociologists think, has been the presence of large numbers of uniformed African Americans and, later, Hispanics and women. … The blacks, Hispanics, and women in the military are less liberal and Democratic than blacks, Hispanics, and women in the general population, but they are also less conservative and Republican than white men in the Armed Forces.

    …

    “The military’s gripes with the (Bush) administration didn’t grow widespread until after we’d conquered Iraq; the problems with planning … translated into unpleasant realities for soldiers in the field. Many officers have become disenchanted with the continuing chaos in Iraq, and with the lengthening of in-country stays and the changing rotation schedules.

    “‘What I’ve seen throughout the officer corps is a real pendulum swing over the last three or four months, from being pro-Bush to anti-Bush,’ Vandergriff said. ‘The officers at the middle levels, who are traditionally the most Republican, are frustrated … that there’s no exit strategy,’ and worry that ‘this conflict could just drag on and on.’

    “Retired Gen. Anthony Zinni, who had been friendly enough with the Bush administration that he was sent last year as the president’s special emissary to the Israelis and Palestinians, last month called the administration’s policy a ‘brain fart.’

    “Says Richard Kohn, a professor of history at the University of North Carolina and a scholar of the military: ‘It is my belief that the Iraq war may be what forces the officer corps to return to the old George C. Marshall model of non-partisanship.’

    “Discontented enlisted men and women have a separate set of provocations …. Chief among these complaints is … the military has fought this war with too few troops. The war in Iraq is … brutal … day-to-day …. They are facing an enemy who is not easily identifiable; when they are too aggressive, they are criticized by the press, and when they are not aggressive enough, they are reprimanded by their superiors, if they don’t end up dead. … (S)oldiers in-country live for the date on which they can return stateside. But many of them have seen that date pushed back, and then pushed back again, and then pushed back again … this … is crushing to morale. …

    “Christopher Parker, a former Army captain and a political scientist at the University of California-Santa Barbara, put it … bluntly: ‘What we’re seeing now is … this widespread sense among people in the military that they’re being jacked around.’ … Troops have been charged a dollar a minute to call home …. Tens of thousands of troops have been sent to Iraq with flak jackets from the Vietnam era which … can’t stop rounds … fired by the Iraqi enemy. The Pentagon, looking to trim costs last spring, floated a plan to eliminate the pay benefits soldiers got for serving in so-called ‘hostile areas’ … injured reservists were billed for food they were served while in the hospital. And veterans’ groups are up in arms over … a military regulation … that no retired soldier receiving his pension from the Department of Defense can also qualify for disability. … ‘There are six hundred thousand disabled veterans, and they are furious,’ Joseph Galloway, Knight Ridder’s esteemed military reporter, told me.

    “Reservists may be the tipping point. The reserves have been summoned nine times in the last 12 years, to meet American obligations around the world, after having previously been summoned only six times since World War II. Reservists who have been sent to Iraq recently have found themselves vastly under-equipped. Things have gone so badly for the reservists that many senior officers … expect a staffing crisis when the current tours are up.

    “The effect of all of this, says Andrew Bacevich, a retired Army colonel and professor of political science at Boston University, is that ‘the soldier vote and the pro-military vote are in play.’ …”

    This excerpt is quoted under the Fair Use Doctrine; for complete article and/or copyright info, see http://www.washingtonmonthly.c.....wells.html

  42. 1522

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 12:59 am

    24

    “All wars are not created equal.” Commentby Green Thumb— 7/23/06@ 8:10 pm

    But all wars are a horror; and war should be a last, not first, resort.

    Of course, warmongers know war is horrible; that’s why those who beat the war drums loudest are always last to go off to war.

  43. 1523

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 12:59 am

    28

    MTR is serious with Pudwhacker. You might call them “bosom buddies.” hehehe

  44. 1524

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 1:01 am

    29

    Speaking of taking liberties with facts, how the hell would you know what the serving military personnel are for or against? Are you in the Army or Marines? No, didn’t think so. See #41. As you yourself said — you’re entitled to your own opinion, BUT YOU’RE NOT ENTITLED TO YOUR OWN FACTS.

  45. 1525

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 1:02 am

    25

    Me and my pals will dig the tunnel for you for $1 million and a trainload of CARROTS.

  46. 1526

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 1:04 am

    32

    “So leftturd when they come over here”

    That’s the same argument you idiots used in ’68 … “if we don’t stop ’em in Nam, they’ll be on the Golden Gate Bridge.” Some people NEVER learn a damn thing.

  47. 1527

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 1:05 am

    32

    Hey klake, you fucking idiot, have the Bushies found Saddam’s USA-invasion plans yet?

  48. 1528

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 1:07 am

    33

    “Well when the bearded mullahs come to you what will you say leftturdy?” Commentby Puddybud Michael Kennedy— 7/23/06@ 10:53 pm

    I’d love to hear what you say when you go to Hell for being a Republican.

  49. 1529

    LeftTurn spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 4:51 am

    Puddybutt, when the terrorists, whether they be from the Middle East, OR the TalibanChristianRight, come knocking at my door, they’ll get the business end of a 44 Mag.

    And by the way it’s very hard to hear you over the screams of pleasure coming from your wife who does say hi!

  50. 1530

    LeftTurn spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 5:49 am

    http://rawstory.com/exclusives.....on_511.htm

    THIS is the guy Baby Bush has trying to bring peace to the Middle East? He couldn’t even bring peace to his own bedroom! What a fucking perv! Way to go Georgie. I see you picked another winner!

  51. 1531

    LeftTurn spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 5:54 am

    Thy Kingdom Come: How the Religious Right Distorts the Faith and Threatens America

    Great new book about the Taliban wing of the GOP!

  52. 1532

    LeftTurn spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 5:54 am

    Thy Kingdom Come: How the Religious Right Distorts the Faith and Threatens America

    Great new book about the Taliban wing of the GOP!

  53. 1533

    klake spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 7:21 am

    “All wars are not created equal.” Commentby Green Thumb? 7/23/06@ 8:10 pm

    But all wars are a horror; and war should be a last, not first, resort.

    Of course, warmongers know war is horrible; that’s why those who beat the war drums loudest are always last to go off to war.

    Comment by Roger Rabbit — 7/24/06 @ 12:59 am

    Not true Roger and History proves that statement is wrong. Bad statement funny Rabbit

  54. 1534

    Puddybud Michael Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 7:52 am

    Isn’t left turd amazing sillyguy? He has nothing left in the tank so he still write offensive materials.

    Pud D. Bud

  55. 1535

    Puddybud Michael Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 8:07 am

    Leftturdy: My wife wanted me to inform you that you are fully a nut case. Since she doesn’t believe in gay marriage as you do you have her mistaken for someone else.

    Goldy: The wife has informed me that she will issue a cease and desist order if you continue to allow leftturn to slander her on this blog. His inference of her cheating on me is morally repugnant to her and is the fathest thing from the truth for these 26 years. He can attack me all he wants but she is FED UP with his crap!

    I guess this would make news next week on the David Goldstein show, right David Goldstein? I’m sure your 30 listeners would really want to know how this played out.

    If you stopped this crap with PacMan you would have had a cleaner blog. You chose to ignore it because they were lefty librul moonbats. Now Sillyguy called the ball. The ball is in your court. You make your call.

  56. 1536

    Puddybud Michael Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 8:12 am

    Darn. She also informed me a simple apology from left turn will not make it. Since this is your blog and you allow sexual attacks against her character, she expects to see an apology from you David Goldstein. Even Google has the attacks cached, so no amount of erasure will help now.

    Oh, btw she ain’t bluffing, so if you know some good minority lawyers who are associated with the NAACP in Seattle; make her day David Goldstein. Even if we have to go public with our names, we’ll force you to go public with many of your idiot friends here. So if you THINK this is an idle threat we’ll have a great laugh in the end, especially when the national media sees the crap written by the likes of leftturd!

    The clock is ticking for the public apologies.

  57. 1537

    LeftTurn spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 8:54 am

    I’m getting under Puddybutt’s skin ! ! ! YOHOO!

    Now the funny part is Puddybutt trying to get a cease and decist order for slander – something Puddybutt does with every post here. Personally I wish you’d try Puddybutt because first of all, I don’t like banging your ugly wife all that much. Secondly, your sister is even uglier. Third is you did get some sort of order we’d be able to identify you and that’s something I am SURE a coward like you doesn’t want.

    Now, on to your 18-year old daughter :)

    By the way, you don’t like comments like this? Stop making them yourself or go somewhere else. You wouldn’t be the first right wing coward I’ve run off this board!

  58. 1538

    sgmmac spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 9:25 am

    Roger, not all of the facts in your article are factual.

    This is not. “And veterans’ groups are up in arms over … a military regulation … that no retired soldier receiving his pension from the Department of Defense can also qualify for disability. … ‘There are six hundred thousand disabled veterans, and they are furious,’

    A regulation existed for years that applied to retirees pay. When you received disability – your military retired pay was reduced and offset by the same amount, so the resulting payment was only a tax deduction. You pay taxes on retired pay, but not on disability payments.

    President Bush changed that a couple of years ago and authorized concurrent receipt of both retired pay and disability pay.

    I get both………

    The military has always charged everyone for meals in hospitals…. even if you don’t eat in the hospital. It always aggravates soldiers.

  59. 1539

    For the Clueless spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 9:35 am

    64 – Puddybud – you’re a freaking hypocrite. You slander people everyday on this board. You’ve slandered my daughter with your warped fantasies.

    Shall I show your wife?

    You cease and desist. Yeah, like that will ever happen.

  60. 1540

    Puddybud Michael Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 10:00 am

    The post was at 8:07. It’s now 9:59.

    Cluesless: Good try. I didn’t make reference to me having sex with your daughter. Leftturdy did to my “daughter” and my wife. HE said he was FUCKING them. I NEVER said that. Goody try at deflection. I already started the wheels in motion. A bank cashiers check is ready to go!!! Notice the time delay in my posts?

    So Leftturdy, do you really want to test me? Do you really want the NAACP picketing your house? If so, you and Goldy don’t answer by 48 Hrs.

  61. 1541

    Puddybud Michael Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 10:04 am

    Cluesless: The wife does read many of my posts. Her comment “That site is full of sickos. Why do you post?” My answer, Because these moonbats are lovers of debauchery and must be stopped.

  62. 1542

    Puddybud Michael Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 10:14 am

    You moonbats can attack me all day. I could care less. In fact I enjoy the repartee! I do this as a hobby. But, when you say you are FUCKING my wife, you stepped over the line.

    Pud D. Bud

  63. 1543

    Another TJ spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 10:18 am

    Conservatives certainly are potty-mouths.

  64. 1544

    Puddybud Michael Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 10:21 am

    Duly noted Leftturdy: “Now the funny part is Puddybutt trying to get a cease and decist order for slander – something Puddybutt does with every post here. Personally I wish you’d try Puddybutt because first of all, I don’t like banging your ugly wife all that much. Secondly, your sister is even uglier. Third is you did get some sort of order we’d be able to identify you and that’s something I am SURE a coward like you doesn’t want.

    Now, on to your 18-year old daughter”

    Duly noted.

  65. 1545

    Puddybud Michael Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 10:22 am

    So ATJ when you read the venom from a lefty moonbat librul your eyes defocus?

  66. 1546

    For the Clueless spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 11:02 am

    Because these moonbats are lovers of debauchery and must be stopped.

    Puddybud, it’s obvious to anyone you revel in the debauchery as you call it. It’s why you keep coming back.

    Ever since you’ve come here you’ve been flat out offensive – the remarks about my daughter only being a taste. What did you expect? That we’d just lie here and take your crap?

    If you really wanted to “stop it”, you would have done something stupid like you’re going to do a long time ago.

    Good luck on your action – NOT!

  67. 1547

    Daddy Love spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 11:05 am

    Pud,
    If they’re not fucking LeftTurn, who ARE they fucking?

  68. 1548

    Daddy Love spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 11:10 am

    MTR
    “Read a great piece today called ‘Give War A Chance.’ Read it at real clear politics… makes the case that Israel should go into Lebanon and clean out the assholes that are causing the problem. Only when your enemy’s ability to make war is destroyed can their be lasting peace. ”

    UK Foreign Office Minister Kim Howells:
    “The destruction of the infrastructure, the death of so many children and so many people: these have not been surgical strikes. If they are chasing Hizbollah, then go for Hizbollah. You don’t go for the entire Lebanese nation.”

    French Defense Minister Michele Alliot-Marie:
    “One cannot ask the Lebanese national army to disarm the militias and at the same time bomb the main Lebanese barracks…And unfortunately, more and more, we are seeing a number of bombardments that are hitting civilians, even convoys of people who were simply seeking to reach Beirut to find shelter have been hit by bombs.”

    As Gideon Levy puts it, Israel “claims it has declared war on Hezbollah but, in practice, it is destroying Lebanon.”

    MTR, even if a war against Hezbollah is justifiable, a war against Lebanon isn’t. Israel will gain nothing from continuing it.

  69. 1549

    Puddybud Michael Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 11:10 am

    Funny Daddy Love Funny

  70. 1550

    proud leftist spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 11:13 am

    Puddybud,
    Give it up, man. No slander suit can be successful when no one even knows who the allegedly slandered individual is because one of the elements of a slander action is that an individual’s reputation must suffer actual harm. If no one knows who your wife is, then how can her reputation have been harmed? I’d love to see your lawsuit caption: “Puddybud’s Wife v. LeftTurn.” How long do you think a court would entertain such nonsense? Moreover, no slander suit can be successful when the alleged defamatory statement is plainly not offered as truth. No one believes LeftTurn is actually doinking your wife. He’s plainly being satirical. Why is it that you fellows on the right are so freaking sensitive? Let it pass. You’ll live longer.

  71. 1551

    Daddy Love spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 11:14 am

    Re: “Conservative” soldiers:

    http://www.zogby.com/NEWS/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1075
    U.S. Troops in Iraq: 72% Say End War in 2006

    – Le Moyne College/Zogby Poll shows just one in five troops want to heed Bush call to stay “as long as they are needed”
    – While 58% say mission is clear, 42% say U.S. role is hazy
    – Plurality believes Iraqi insurgents are mostly homegrown
    – Almost 90% think war is retaliation for Saddam’s role in 9/11, most don’t blame Iraqi public for insurgent attacks
    – Majority of troops oppose use of harsh prisoner interrogation
    – Ninety-three percent said that removing weapons of mass destruction is not a reason for U.S. troops being there.
    – Four in five said they oppose the use of such internationally banned weapons as napalm and white phosphorous.

  72. 1552

    Puddybud Michael Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 11:21 am

    LOoks like I have struck Gold here. Maybe the attacks will be at the individuals and not other family members except for Rabbit Pellet whom brags of his breeding habits.

  73. 1553

    Puddybud Michael Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 11:25 am

    Proud Leftist: That may be. AL\lready thought of that. But remember the issue of implication? We’ll identify ourselves in the suit. I can positively identify myself as Puddybud because I use that nick in other locations. This will force Goldy to identify Leftturdy and maybe more of his supporters. Ha ha ha ha ha.

  74. 1554

    Puddybud Michael Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 11:31 am

    You said “He’s plainly being satirical. Why is it that you fellows on the right are so freaking sensitive? Let it pass. You’ll live longer.”

    Are these your definition of satire?

    Limbaugh pees in a cup
    Bush twins are drunken whores
    Bush twins pull a train
    Laura Bush killed a guy.
    Ann Coulter is a guy
    North Korea is GWB’s fault
    Looks like the world’s biggest crack addict and transvestite has never written an original word in her miserable cowardly life.
    Ralph Reed is a bitch
    We’re knuckle-dragging, baby-raping right wingers
    Bunch of fucking crooks. They should be hanged for treason. Today!
    Republicans are cowards.
    He fucked my “daughter”. – Don’t have any daughters!
    He fucked my wife. – She isn’t interested in having to use the Hubble Telescope on full mag to find his dick!
    Ordered the outing of a CIA agent – If so Fitz didn’t say it. Lie
    Lied 40000 times about the war in Iraq – Oh really? Repeated the 1998 Donko lies you mean?
    Created the biggest trade deficit in history – Debatable
    Let Osama get away a month before 9.11 and then let Osama’s family get away after 9.11 Lie – Richard CLarke did
    Tried to turn our ports over to Arab control – Mistake, he took Bill Clinton’s suggestion
    Screwed up the immigration situation
    And my personal favorite, got down on all fours, stuck his ass in the air and invited N. Korea to collectively fuck him in the ass because he’s afraid to fight any country that ACTUALLY DOES HAVE WMD!

  75. 1555

    Harry Tuttle spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 11:31 am

    86.

    Be sure to put in extensive reference to the maurading bunny movie star you talk to here, the one who lives by Greenlake and hops over to Stefan Sharansky’s lawn to take a shit.

    And, of course, don’t forget to say that you trade barbs with Harry Tuttle.

  76. 1556

    Harry Tuttle spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 11:32 am

    88.

    Ask Jerry Falwel.

  77. 1557

    Puddybud Michael Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 11:44 am

    Harry I attack you you attack me. That it tete-a-tete. Do I bring into my argument your family? Do I insinuate your wife giving me sexual favors? I think not!

  78. 1558

    LeftTurn spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 11:51 am

    Bring it on Puddybutt you fucking coward. Hell I’d pay for the C&D order myself if I thought it would lead me to your true identity!

    And YES I am ready to take you on any day. You are a traitor and a coward and I consider it my duty to do whatever I can to expose you.

    Fuck you, your wife, your daughter, your sister and your mother. Hope you don’t like it.

    And by the way, your daddy Lush Flimbaugh really DOES have to pee in a cup moron. It’s called probation. You should be familiar with it as I assume you’ve spent time in jail yourself.

  79. 1559

    LeftTurn spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 11:51 am

    PS! I love it that I got under Puddybutt’s skin. I absolutely love it! HE HE!

  80. 1560

    Harry Tuttle spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 11:52 am

    Do you know my family? I think you may have confused me with Harry Buttle, lots of people do. He has a family, had, actually.

    Now his daughter, who wouldn’t like to boff her, eh?

    Maybe not you. She is a terrorist, after all. Sam thinks so, anyway.

  81. 1561

    LeftTurn spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 11:53 am

    Anyone ever done a search for the batshit crazy stuff that Puddybutt has said on this board? It boggles the mind. When I get time, (after me and your wife are all done Puddy) I’ll create a BEST OF list and post them for all to see.

  82. 1562

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 11:53 am

    72

    Mac — the concurrent pay issue may be resolved now, but Bush’s foot-dragging on the issue angered veterans groups, and you know as well as I these things are never forgotten.

    The real question is the validity of the article’s premise that the GOP’s grip on the military vote is loosening. No one has good statistics on the military vote, because pollsters are denied access to soldiers; political scientists believe the military was more Democratic than Republican in WW2, but has became more southern and more Republican since then, especially after the draft ended in 1973.

    Any time there’s a war, there’s a natural constituency for the the mission among the serving military. But losing a war can shatter a party’s grip on the military vote, and the Republicans will lose their war in Iraq. (And this war, unlike Vietnam, is clearly identifiable to one party.)

    The article does not suggest military voters will suddenly switch to Democrats. The Democrats might get half the enlisted vote, but the officer and noncoms are Republican by an 8-to-1 margin. However, if career military people become disgusted with the GOP — as they should — they may return to the professional military’s historic detachment from politics and wariness of politicians from both parties.

    Politics is visceral, not intellectual. For years, I corresponded with a man in Florida who had been an officer in my unit in Vietnam. He forwarded to me all the rightwing mass-circ e-mails. I would send him something from snopes.com or one of the other debunker web sites taking apart the rightwingers’ bullshit-of-the-day. It didn’t make a dent. He was like a cat caught with a bird in its mouth; he would drop the bird, then go catch another one. I ended my correspondence with him, because you can’t deal with dishonesty. First and foremost, he was dishonest with himself, because he insisted on believe things even after they were demonstrated to be false and the source was shown to have repeatedly lied.

    Sure, there’s lots of veterans and military personnel who will believe what they want to, no matter what the truth is. Democrats will never sway these voters with arguments. But they know when they’re being fucked over by their chain of command, and they do respond to that. Not overtly, not right away, but human nature being what it is, once the GOP loses these folks they will never come back to the GOP.

    The Democrats don’t have to do anything except wait for the GOP to self-destruct.

  83. 1563

    proud leftist spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 11:53 am

    Puddy @ 88
    Whoa, man, we were talking about your personal slander lawsuit. Your attempt to put comments personal to you into a context of general comments about rightwingers is less than deft. Within the context of a slander claim, I will say that none of the comments you list fall into the category of legally slanderous. A public figure, such as GW, for all intents and purposes, cannot successfully sue for slander. The Supreme Court correctly determined in 1964 that an individual who willingly becomes a public figure should anticipate that, in a free society, some bad things are going to be said about him or her. With regard to many of your other listed comments, I would say that some are true and so not slanderous (truth is an absolute defense to slander), others are simply fair comment, others represent opinion (not actionable as slander), and a few might be a bit over the top, but hyperbole is not actionable. What is your point? That nothing disrespectful can be said about conservatives? What kind of nation is it that you want to live in? You confuse derogatory with defamatory. The marketplace of ideas sometimes involves bad things being said about people you respect. Get used to it, or move to a totalitarian country.

  84. 1564

    Puddybud Michael Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 12:07 pm

    Proud Leftist, you can attack me all you want. Leave my wife out of it. Do I insinuate I want to jump your wife’s bones? Uhhh, NO!

    My wife does not like being accused of having a relationship with a moonbat whacknutjob such as LeftTurdy. He can attack me all he wants. Nothing he says makes any sense. But when he insinuates that he is in my wife and she says hello, she takes umbrage to that. If that point goes over your head maybe a refresher is necessary.

    Leftturdy, you got under my wife’s skin jackASS. Also now it’s fully demonstrated how stupid Leftturdy is.

    “Anyone ever done a search for the batshit crazy stuff that Puddybutt has said on this board? It boggles the mind. When I get time, (after me and your wife are all done Puddy) I’ll create a BEST OF list and post them for all to see.

    Commentby LeftTurn— 7/24/06@ 11:53 am”

    What’s wrong turdball? No Internet search skillzset? Didn’t think so. I can find just about anything you wrote on ASSes in almost no time dumbASS. All you do is regurgitate Kos URLs. No synaptic brain activity there.

  85. 1565

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 12:29 pm

    Of course, this also raises the question of the proper role of the military vote in American politics. The military should serve policy, not drive policy. For two centuries, this has been an axiomatic feature of American political life.

    Should the military’s political views on issues of war and peace, or military spending, take precedence of those of civilian voters? No, absolutely not!! On spending issues, the military is a special interest group — of course they want more military spending. But military spending comes at the expense of the civilian economy, and also comes at the expense of social spending that benefits the citizens who do the nation’s work and pay its taxes. There needs to be a balance. The military can never have enough resources, so its demands for manpower and weaponry are infinite, and what is really needed is wise management of limited resources — as in any other enterprise.

    But above all, military voters should not decide whether the nation goes to war. Comprising only a couple percent of the voting population, they can’t expect to overrule the civilian electorate in that regard. More importantly, they have to get pumped up for the mission, and can’t possibly bring to their voting decisions the detachment or objectivity needed to decide whether a given war is necessary, or a bad idea. You can always get soldiers to support a war, even a wrongful war; the decision to go to war is for the nation as a whole (98% of which is comprised of civilians) to decide, using its collective conscience as a guide. Any argument that soldiers know better than the rest of us, and their opinion should take precedence over our individual consciences, is false.

    The opinion of military voters, of course, has influence far beyond military personnel. It not only influences their families and veterans, but also voters without direct connections to the military who are sympathetic to, and supportive of, the military — including many Democrats.

    But we, as a nation, must guard against the militarism and nationalism that has led so many other nations into aggressive wars, to mankind’s incalculable grief. Americans do not possess a different human nature than people elsewhere; but unfortunately, legitimate liberal concerns about excessive militarism and nationalism in our own society has been misinterpreted by some military voters and veterans, and has been exploited by rightwing propagandists.

    What wingers call “unpatriotic” is, in fact, profoundly patriotic. Liberals want what is best for our country, and for humankind as a whole. War is an unmitigated evil, so it is understandable that we have pacifists among us, who oppose war under all circumstances. Human nature being what it is, realistic liberals will understand the need to maintain a strong defense — not only for deterrence, but for defense, when needed.

    Yes, there are times when we have to fight; and 9/11 is one of those times. Our country was attacked. It is proper, and patriotic, to ask why we were attacked and — being a superpower with global reach and perhaps a tendency to get overbearing in our dealings with other countries and cultures — whether some of our own policies should be re-examined. But the 9/11 attacks were an act of war that called for a military response against the perpetrators.

    There are many things about Bush’s response to 9/11 that make no sense to us. His willful ignoring of warnings leading up to 9/11 is deeply troubling. After what appeared to be a brilliant start, the Afghanistan campaign bogged down because it was starved of military manpower and resources that were diverted to an unnecessary — and miscarried — adventure in Iraq that we know now was on the drawing board before the 2000 election and would have occurred even if 9/11 had not. And the Iraq campaign has been conducted with a sheer incompetence for which it is hard to find any modern precedent; you have to go back to the Union side of the Civil War to find a comparable level of stupidity and civilian interference. It is inexplicable to us liberals that our Republican brethren continue to assign their blind faith and votes to politicians who have served them, and our nation, so badly as Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Perle and Wolfowitz have. They are the McClellans and Butlers of our time, and history will not be kind to them.

    Nor will history be kind to the unthinking voters who gave them a blank check.

  86. 1566

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 12:33 pm

    85

    “Almost 90% think war is retaliation for Saddam’s role in 9/11, most don’t blame Iraqi public for insurgent attacks”

    The problem with this, of course, is that Saddam had no role in the 9/11 attacks. Bush lied about that, and a lot of stupid Republicans bought the lies.

  87. 1567

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 12:36 pm

    86

    Puddybutt, I haven’t attacked your wife — I only wondered when you and MTR are getting married — but if you want to slam Mrs. Rabbit, go right ahead!! Mrs. Rabbit can take care of herself (trust me on this). Unlike you, I’m not married to a thin-skinned wimp. Hey, your children are ugly!!! If you don’t like my saying so, hire a lawyer and sue me.

    What a bunch of fucking whiners these wingnuts are.

  88. 1568

    For the Clueless spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 12:36 pm

    Puddybud – Left Turn’s remarks are offensive and maybe a little over the top.

    But you’re not exactly innocent either…

    Left Turn has succeeded in getting under your skin. How does it feel?

    You live to get under the skins of people with whom you disagree politically. You use namecalling and copious spews of right-wing propaganda. You call it a “hobby”.

    I call it not having much of a life.

    A sane person would go about their business, voting for whomever and supporting their favorite candidates of their chosen party with money, time, etc. You choose to come to HA.org and do you what you’ve done.

    Again, what do you expect?

  89. 1569

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 12:37 pm

    Wingnuts don’t have any problem with bombing villages and killing women and children, but if someone flings a mere verbal barb at their wife or kids, they turn into blubbering crybabies.

    Fucking wimps.

  90. 1570

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 12:42 pm

    95 et seq.

    No one posting here anonymously under an assumed name is being legally slandered. Unless someone identifies you by your real name, Puddy, nothing that is said here about your or yours is legally actionable.

    You don’t have to take my word for this — you are more than welcome to spend $500 on a consultation with a lawyer of your choice, who will tell you the same thing.

  91. 1571

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 12:45 pm

    So, unless and until you post under your real name, he can say anything he wants about your wife — and it’s not legal slander.

  92. 1572

    Puddybud Michael Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 12:47 pm

    Damn you wingnuts, My wife is offended. I will not let it pass. Who on the right has written they FUCKED any of your family members? Citation, date and time! It is only you moonbats who attack using those methods. Such librul thought processes. Such openmindedness.

  93. 1573

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 12:47 pm

    By the way, Puddybutt, were you and MTR married to his dead crack-whore wife at the same time? Were you guys banging to same bigamous cunt at the same time you were banging each other? Not saying you were, just wondering.

  94. 1574

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 12:48 pm

    Hey Puddy, did you have a bad experience with a priest when you were an alter boy? Not saying you did, just wondering what made you so fucked up in the head.

  95. 1575

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 12:50 pm

    100

    Who cares if your wife is offended? The idea is to offend YOU as much as possible. As I’ve told all the newbies on this board, trolls are allowed to post here and there’s no censorship, and our job as liberals is to verbally kick the living shit out of you trolls. No mercy for unpatriotic America-hating wingnut nazi fucks!!!

  96. 1576

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 12:53 pm

    Hey Puddy, if you can’t take it, haul your sorry chickenshit ass back to Unsound Politics like that pathetic whiner John MacDonald did! Whatsamatter, is the $7.36 an hour BIAW pays you to post on HA not enough money for the working conditions?

    Wimp. Loser. Crybaby. waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

  97. 1577

    For the Clueless spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 1:57 pm

    Roger – I think John MacDonald supports Darcy Burner.

    Check it out.

  98. 1578

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 2:54 pm

    97

    Sure it’s the same MacDonald that posted here for a while?

  99. 1579

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 2:55 pm

    86

    A Republican complaining about name-calling is like Hitler complaining about allied bombing.

  100. 1580

    Puddybud Michael Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 4:01 pm

    What I love about Rabbit Pellet is how he takes 9 posts to say what most people say in one or two. I wonder what that disease is called? Oh, yes; verbal diarrhea!

    Rabbit Pellet, et. al. My wife is offended. Since I love her I stand up for her. Eventhough you use metaphors to describe how you love to fuck bunnies, Freud says deep down inside you want to cheat on your wife. Well have a great sexual compulsive life Pellet!

    “Whatsamatter, is the $7.36 an hour BIAW pays” Wrong idiot. You called me Kevin Cairns. Wrong there too!

    “Hey Puddy, did you have a bad experience with a priest when you were an alter boy?” You know my religion. Never been Catholic. And after reading Koxes Book of Martyrs I don’t plan to.

    “By the way, Puddybutt, were you and MTR married to his dead crack-whore wife at the same time?” No but if she was a rabbit you’d hump her right?

  101. 1581

    jsa on commercial drive spews:

    Monday, 7/24/06 at 11:36 pm

    I would just like to say that with a part-time job and the generous tithes Pud gives at temple, I am impressed he has the fiscal wherewithal to consider a libel suit.

    Pud, take it from someone in your economic class who has the benefit of partying with lawyers as well. You just ain’t that rich.

  102. 1582

    Vurz spews:

    Sunday, 7/30/06 at 3:37 pm

    Excellent satire of a Fox News Commentator!

  103. 1583

    shelly spews:

    Friday, 8/11/06 at 9:19 am

    awegawawcea

“The David Goldstein Show” tonight on Newsradio 710-KIRO

by Goldy — Sunday, 7/16/06, 2:20 pm

Yet another light-hearted romp through local and national politics tonight on “The David Goldstein Show”– Newsradio 710-KIRO, from 7PM to 10PM. Here’s the line-up, but as always, things could change depending on breaking news and guest availability.

7PM: A third of Seattle families send their children to private schools, and yet study after study shows that on average, public schools do as good a job or better than private schools at educating the same children. Such a deal. Joining me to discuss the relative of merits of public vs private vs charter schools is fellow parent and blogger Mollie Bradley-Martin of The (liberal) Girl Next Door.

8PM: The fighting is escalating in Afghanistan and Iraq, while Israel is bombing Lebanon and apparently itching for a fight with Syria and Iran. Is this World War III? Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich seems to think so… and says it could be a winning issue for the Republicans in 2006. What do you think… is World War III a good thing?

9PM: Seattle Times political writer and fellow blogger David Postman calls in with a battlefield report from the 2006 midterm elections. Did Sen. Maria Cantwell blink? Is Rep. Dave Reichert in trouble? Are we really in the midst of World War III? Here’s your chance to get your questions answered by a professional journalist.

Tune in tonight (or listen to the live stream) and give me a call: 1-877-710-KIRO (5476).

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  1. 1584

    Skagit spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 2:28 pm

    Too bad you don’t have someone lined up from the school board. Also, please make sure Mollie has something to say . . .

  2. 1585

    pbj spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 2:33 pm

    Goldstein is still on the air. Yet again disproving the liberal lie that there is a conspiracy trampling free speech.

    I am quite sure in his own mind that Goldstein believes those on the right to find him to be the “most dangerous man in America”. certainly if the most dangerous, self described “Hell Raiser” cannot be quieted by the imaginary Gestapo, who can?

  3. 1586

    LeftTurn spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 3:03 pm

    I am not sure you’ll have any real “journalists” on the show but I’ll probably call in anyway.

  4. 1587

    pbj spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 3:32 pm

    @3,

    Always the faithful jackbooted soldier eh?

  5. 1588

    Jimbo spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 3:49 pm

    Walk into a private school then walk into a public school, if don’t see the difference right away your kids will be fine in public school.

  6. 1589

    sgmmac spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 4:39 pm

    Why not talk about America selling off roads and bridges to foreign companies? There’s a story up on Kiro about it from the AP………….

  7. 1590

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 4:46 pm

    Wow at least 400,000 people protested in Mexico today. I think the election will be over turn and the liberal rightful candidate that really won will be able to take power. I hope so any ways.

    We can’t steal elections like the republicans. We just need to make sure they can not steal them any more and if they do we need to go in to the streets like they did in mexico or in France and demand the voted be counted.

    What needs to be done is to go to an all paper ballet and have them all counted bye hand . Bye non partisan counters or counters from each party. The Canadians count all there votes bye hand and have the results out bye the end of the night. It is really very simple just have each poling place count there votes and call in the numbers It’s not Brain surgery you no. And have one universal form that is used for a voter ballet so they are the same all over the country and state.

    I would even make it mandatory that everyone of voting age has to vote like they do in Australia and fine people that don’t vote 20 dollars. And put that money in to a found for the elections.

    I would go to publicly founding of elections and ban all contributions from individual if you want to contribute you can contribute to the found for everyone. That would make it an even playing field for everyone and make it so people other then millionaires could run for office.

    I would all so like to see us go to instant run off voting all so http://www.instantrunoff.com/faq.asp

    I would all so ban all political adds from TV. Radio and news papers would be fine and have many more Televised debates on TV.

    I would go to same day registration too were you can register right at the polling places.

    There are many ways in which we can strengthen make sure our voting system is free and fair and honest like it should be. I never in my life ever thought I would have to worry about any election being stolen. And I am getting very sick and tired of worrying about it and a shamed this is happening in my country.

    Oh and get rid of the frigging ELECTORAL COLLAGE . $#@&^*%$#@&

  8. 1591

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 4:49 pm

    Oh and if anyone else would like to join the Socialist Party please go to this link and sign up :-) http://www.sp-usa.org/

  9. 1592

    pbj spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 5:09 pm

    “We can’t steal elections like the republicans. We just need to make sure they can not steal them any more and if they do we need to go in to the streets like they did in mexico or in France and demand the voted be counted.”

    I think the socialist has been drinking way too liberally. Particularly as the Democrats managed to steal the Wa State Governorship.

    ANd while we are on the topic of Democrats election fraud:

    11/30/2005 – Illinois State Rep Patricia Bailey (6th District ) was found guilty of election fraud and perjury after a one-day trial.

    11/30/2005 – Democratic Consultant Raymond Reggie, a media consultant and son of a politically prominent former Louisiana judge, was sentenced to 12 months in prison for bank fraud.

    11/30/2005 – Democrat Brian Burke, once one of Wisconsin’s most powerful lawmakers, sentenced to six months in jail, was also ordered to pay more than $85,000 in restitution for using state resources to run his failed bid for attorney general in 2002.

    11/29/2005 – Fromer Georgia Senate Majority Leader Charles Walker was sentenced to more than 10 years in prison and ordered him to pay a $150,000 fine and $698,000 in restitution.Walker stole at least $425,000 from a charity he created and bilked newspaper advertisers out of another $200,000, according to a sentencing report being used to help determine how much time he would serve in prison.

    11/26/2005 – The Queens judge who sparked an uproar when she helped a defendant escape arrest through a back exit of the courthouse should be removed from the bench, a disciplinary panel ruled Tuesday in one of its most contentious decisions on record.

    The judge, Supreme Court Justice Laura D. Blackburne (a Democrat), was immediately taken off active duty by the Office of Court Administration. She faces a lengthy suspension and then, if the Court of Appeals affirms the disciplinary ruling, the end of her nine-year judicial career.

    And let’s not forget the entire Democrat Party being CONVICTED in St Louis:

    Convicted of conspiracy and vote fraud and facing five years on each count were:

    • Kelvin Ellis, a Democratic precinct committeeman and former East St. Louis city government department head who served a federal prison term for extortion in the early 1990s.

    • Yvette Johnson, secretary to the city Democratic organization.

    • Democratic precinct committeemen Sheila Thomas and Jesse Lewis.

    Former U.S. Rep. Frank Ballance, a North Carolina Democrat, was sentenced to four years in prison on Oct. 12,2005 for conspiring to divert taxpayer money to his friends and family through the charitable organization he founded in 1985.

    But almost two weeks later, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee still has not returned the thousands of dollars in “dirty money” that Ballance contributed to the DCCC, the National Republican Congressional Committee wants everyone to know.

    The NRCC said based on press reports, it appears that the DCCC has no plans to return the $29,500 that Ballance contributed to its coffers.

  10. 1593

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 5:18 pm

    I bet you I can come up with a longer list of republican crooks that have stolen elections :-)

    There are cooks in Both parties that’s why I am not a demarcate any more. I am all most more upset at at the democratic party for going along with a lot of election fraud. So im agreeing with you So go wipe all the gross foam out of your mouth lol

  11. 1594

    Dr. E spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 5:21 pm

    10
    FYI Greg Palast has been in Mexico City this past week and uncovered pretty clear evidence of voter fraud. (See http://www.gregpalast.com, various posts over the past week.)

  12. 1595

    Skagit spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 5:30 pm

    PeaButtJel- that’s why it is useless to try to discuss anything with you three fools. It’s just “you did it, too” stupid rambling.

    Everybody has done everything. Why not discuss what we think should be and how to get there. That’s what makes you sound friggin’ first grade.

    BTW, did you ever turn off the italics?

  13. 1596

    Green Thumb spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 5:31 pm

    pbj, your missives read like you are a professional troll for one of the Republican campaign operations. RE: Too generic, too white-and-black, too shrill, too cleverly disingenuous.

    If I am correct (not that you’ll admit it) here’s a question to reflect on: Do you really think that such crass propagandizing is effective? Your missives may work with those who are not as familiar with the issues, but not here.

    So I have a suggestion: Either retool your approach when you participate in HA or take your talking points to a blog where they will have a greater impact. (Perhaps you could be reassigned?)

    And if you’re really not a professional winger? Perhaps you might expand your news diet beyond Faux News.

  14. 1597

    Skagit spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 5:33 pm

    Yeah, Dr. E. The rethugs sent their best subversives down . . . they’ve got it down pat.

    SOCIALIST: I’m more exhausted with all their stupidity than the rest of you. I think their stupidity is genetic so maybe we need to find a DNA test for that and suggest “abort at birth.”

  15. 1598

    Skagit spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 5:36 pm

    Actually, maybe “abort at conception” or sometime soon thereafter. I don’t really mean abort at birth. I’m not that harsh!

  16. 1599

    pbj spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 5:44 pm

    12,

    “BTW, did you ever turn off the italics?”

    I couldn’t turn it off. Someone left an italics tag open without closing it. You’d think the software would prevent that sort of thing.

    “PeaButtJel- that’s why it is useless to try to discuss anything with you three fools. It’s just “you did it, too” stupid rambling.

    Everybody has done everything. Why not discuss what we think should be and how to get there. That’s what makes you sound friggin’ first grade.”

    Actually it is “only you did that”. And “PeaButtJel” makes you look what? Pre-School???

    HA is not for reasonable discussions and debate. Too many on the left resort to cussing as their form of argument. If you really want to discuss solutions as adults, please visit

    http://www.soundpolitics.com

    This blog is for “Hell Raising”, not really for honest political discussion.

  17. 1600

    pbj spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 5:47 pm

    @14,

    Yeah, Dr. E. The rethugs sent their best subversives down . . . they’ve got it down pat.

    Rethugs? Oh yeah. The really sounds like you want to have an honest debate. What are you, 3 yeard old?

  18. 1601

    Skagit spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 5:49 pm

    PeaButtJel: HA is not for reasonable discussions and debate . . .

    You have proven that thrice over . . .

    You left the italics on . . . go back and look. Such insipid people!

  19. 1602

    pbj spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 5:52 pm

    pbj, your missives read like you are a professional troll for one of the Republican campaign operations. RE: Too generic, too white-and-black, too shrill, too cleverly disingenuous.

    If I am correct (not that you’ll admit it) here’s a question to reflect on: Do you really think that such crass propagandizing is effective?

    Well, if you consider backing up your arguments with facts and verfiable evidence to be “crass propagandizing”, then there is really no debate to be had.

    The only people I have ever seen cite a source (other than myself) are Rabbit and Dr E. The rest of the lazy debaters make up excuses for their lack of supporting evidence such as “I am not going to do the work for you” and other such cliche’s.

    I will be over on Sound Politics, http://www.soundpolitics.com and willing to engage any and all in debate. However, it is for adults only. So if your vocabulary only contains words four letters in length or less, you may want to stay here in the equine anal blog.

  20. 1603

    Harry Tuttle spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 5:57 pm

    Buh-bye.

  21. 1604

    Skagit spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 5:58 pm

    Why PBJ, you finally did it. Now, say “thank you” like a good little boy.

  22. 1605

    Skagit spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 5:59 pm

    Ah, back to Steffy and his censorship blog. Good riddance!

  23. 1606

    Dr. E spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 6:14 pm

    Hey, I’d be more than happy to have pbj around here to debate the issues. The main problem is that most of the right-wingers around here don’t present coherent arguments for their positions, and when confronted with a defensible counterargument, they usually refuse to consider it.

    And personally I think that trolls like MTR do a tremendous service to society at large by airing their sophistries, such as advocating genocide. Keep the kooks front and center.

  24. 1607

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 6:17 pm

    There are reports of over a million people in the streets of Mexico City now

  25. 1608

    Green Thumb spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 6:24 pm

    Thomas Kuhn wrote about how scientists from competing “paradigms” can have a great deal of difficulty communicating. What generally happens is that they talk over each other’s heads. One reason this happens is because each side operates from such different base assumptions about reality. Kuhn described this disconnect as “incommensurability.”

    This phenomenon is very much present today in American politics. What makes HA’s comment threads strangely compelling for me is that they illustrate daily how difficult is is for folks with different ideological moorings to have a discussion that leads to mutual learning (let alone a measure of empathy).

    Look at pbj. I don’t get the impression that he engaged any of the points made by the likes of Dr. E and Skagit. Yet in his exit comments, pbj insists that he seeks robust debate.

    Perhaps it is impossible to have much in the way of mutual learning here at HA because of the fight club mentality, where it is considered a sign of weakness to admit reconsidering a position or to show concern for one’s debating opponent.

    MTR is a perfect example of this: He speaks in always-always/never-never statements, steadfastly refuses to admit his errors, and seems to relish trashing his opponent.

    How can you talk across differences in such a climate? I don’t know, but we better figure out how if American “democracy” is going to survive.

  26. 1609

    Skagit spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 6:28 pm

    Green Thumb, check out my response ont he Wilson thread.

  27. 1610

    Skagit spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 6:32 pm

    GREEN THUMB:
    I’m reposting here because they are in line with this thinking . . .

    Green Thumb, I’m almost convinced that this country will have to fail seriously, experience some real hardships before we get back on track. You see, I also think the dems are in the pockets of big business. I don’t see them as the good guys anymore.

    Do you know the Eisenhower quote about the Stupid Texas Oilmen and how they’d never be in power? Well, time has proven him wrong. II think fascism is on the rise and just like in prewar Germany, right-wing America is not only tolerating it but feeding it.

    Do I sound cynical? Yes, I am.

    I am so sorry about it all.

    Oh, and also . . . Ronald Reagan started a new political narrative for this country and it is going to continue until people feel a whole lot more pain than they currently do. I don’t think there is any logic to it; I don’t believe we can change it. Gut-level greed, intolerance and self-interest has replaced common sense, charity and freedom.

  28. 1611

    For the Clueless spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 6:42 pm

    Another chapter in the annals of wingnut lunacy – theo-con edition:

    He visited the Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs that day as a proud parent. His son Curtis, who was entering his second year at the academy, had just finished three weeks of combat survival training. Weinstein spotted him across a room and knew instantly that something was wrong. They drove off campus, in stormy silence, and pulled into a McDonald’s.

    “All right, Curtis . . . I can’t take any more of this. What the hell have you done?” Weinstein remembers asking.

    “It’s not what I’ve done, Dad. It’s what I’m going to do,” Curtis answered, according to his father. “I’m going to beat the [. . .] out of the next person that calls me a [. . .] Jew or accuses me or our people of killing Jesus Christ.”

    At that moment, Weinstein says, “everything kind of telescoped. I could hear my heart in my ears. For a guy who talks a lot . . . I was speechless.

  29. 1612

    Skagit spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 6:50 pm

    Green Thumb:
    I keep thinking about your Kuhn post. Isn’t that exactly what we see here? Dr. E tried to read, process and answer. Yet PBJ answered the question or statement he wanted to hear. So nothing was linear. The target kept moving . . .

    I think the only way to communicate with the rightwing group is to keep it so simple and repeat the same question over and over and over until an appropriate or relevant response is achieved. Then move on to the next point. Hard to do but it seems to me the only answer.

    Can’t for the ife of me remember who I was watching recently that kept bringing it back to the question originally asked and finally gave up. It was a segment on some topical news show – can’t believe I forgot who it was! Oh, I remember. Someone was interviewing Peter Beinert and he kept dodging the question. Don’t think he meant to entirely but he just didn’t get it. Didn’t have a good answer for it. And he’s a liberal.

    God bless those of you who can stay patient with these guys. There’s more truth and analysis in yours, Dr. E’s, Harry Tuttles and Rabbit’s posts than anywhere else. Left Turn and I are becoming psychotic. We just can’t take it anymore! (LOL)

    I’m sorry, LeftTurn, I’ll just speak for myself!

  30. 1613

    Harry Tuttle spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 6:51 pm

    I don’t think that waiting until it gets bad enough to change people’s minds works. There isn’t going to be a rapid change from the path the country is on. In the case of the Middle-East, it is likely to get worse, whoever is in power, before getting better.

    I don’t let my distaste for what Cantwell does wrong blind me to what she does right. In addition, another Republican yes-man doesn’t get the domestic changes started that I think are necessary.

    The time to have started building support for a primary challenge was in 2003. Waiting until the year of the election is waiting too long. Left Democrats need to sacrifice to keep campaigns alive, and I don’t see that they aren’t willing to do so now.

  31. 1614

    Skagit spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 6:55 pm

    Clueless: Thanks for posting that.

  32. 1615

    Harry Tuttle spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 6:56 pm

    32.

    The one I remember was Bernie Ward repeatendly asking Chris Sanders if he thought the government should determine what the media reports.

    http://www.crooksandliars.com/.....ernie+ward

  33. 1616

    Harry Tuttle spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 6:57 pm

    repeatedly

  34. 1617

    Dr. E spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 6:59 pm

    32

    Here’s one question that bears repeating, again and again:

    Why did we invade Iraq?

  35. 1618

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 7:06 pm

    Its time for the BIG SHOW :-)

  36. 1619

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 7:10 pm

    This is the only show I listen to on KIRO any more.

    The rest is KPTK pretty much, with a smatering of NPR and The BBC.

  37. 1620

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 7:11 pm

    Here’s one question that bears repeating, again and again:

    Why did we invade Iraq?

    So Bush could win the election in 04

  38. 1621

    Skagit spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 7:17 pm

    I subscribe to the Justin Frank theory of Bush. I think Rove saw him originally as a likeable, very malleable, attractive potential candidate.This is the guy I can do my Professor Higgin’s act on. For both of them it is all about ego. For Hitler, it was all about ego.

    So, IMHO, the egos of these two men are at the bottom of everything we are living today.

    And that’s what makes it so scary. No ethics, no rationale, just pure unmitigated ego.

  39. 1622

    Harry Tuttle spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 7:21 pm

    I don’t know anything about Seattle schools, my grandkids go to school in Everett.

    The school they go to is excellent. There is a great deal of parent involvement, and not just bake sales. My dauther-in-law is, basically, a teaching assistant in three different classrooms on different days during the school year.

    My son does stuff with the kids on the weekends, so that is, mostly, outside the school environment.

  40. 1623

    Mark The Redneck Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 7:25 pm

    E – Why did we go to Iraq??? Uhh… lessee…

    1) Because the survival of the civilized world is at stake.

    2) Because people yearn to be free. Free of a sociopathic dictator who killed his own people. Free from an incompetent and corrupt leader who ruined the country.

    3) Because they were sponsoring terrorism which threatens Murka.

    4) Because Saddam decided to play fucking games with us re WMD. See, it wasn’t up to us to prove he had them… it was up to him to prove he didn’t. And he didn’t.

    Now, I know that a weak kneed appeaser like you won’t buy any of this. That’s OK… we don’t need you, and we don’t GAF what you “think”. But grown ups are in charge now, and this is how things work.

    Any more question?

  41. 1624

    REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX] spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 7:28 pm

    There are reports of over a million people in the streets of Mexico City now

    Commentby The Socialist [All heading for San Diego?]

  42. 1625

    REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX] spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 7:30 pm

    Oh and if anyone else would like to join the Socialist Party please go to this link and sign up http://www.sp-usa.org/

    Commentby The Socialist […………………………………………………………………….Socialist……….Democrat……..What’s the difference?????]

  43. 1626

    REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX] spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 7:32 pm

    Oh and get rid of the frigging ELECTORAL COLLAGE . $#@&^*%$#@&

    Commentby The Socialist […………..That way voter fraud in Detroit, Chicago, and Milwankee can change the election nationwide!!!! Sorry, but the evil “Constitution” sezs otherwise!!!!]

  44. 1627

    Skagit spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 7:34 pm

    GREEN THUMB: This is what is worrying me. The signing statements, the current proposal by Arlen Specter to agree on a handshake deal that he will legislate away oversight if Bush promises not to use it, the packing of the Court, precedents being set that could change history. You seem very knowledgable . . . can you tell me of a time in more-or-less recent history where the Constitution has come under such attack in such insidious ways? Besides a time of major way, I mean …

  45. 1628

    Skagit spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 7:36 pm

    SOCIALIST: There are many ways in which we can strengthen make sure our voting system is free and fair and honest like it should be.

    Your statement is predicated on the notion that everybody wants a free, fair and honest election. I think times are proving and people are proving you wrong on that. For some people winning at any cost is what matters.

    But, for the record, I agree with your every comment.

  46. 1629

    REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX] spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 7:39 pm

    CLEVELAND – City health officials want the owner of a new, upscale gay bathhouse to provide condoms, offer customers regular HIV testing and appoint employees to answer questions about preventing sexually transmitted diseases. The Flex club, which is scheduled to open next month, will become part of a chain of six bathhouses extending from Atlanta to Los Angeles. Plans for the 50,000-square-foot complex inside a defunct Greyhound bus depot feature three pools, two saunas and a gym and include 110 cabana-like spa rooms equipped with cots and televisions, 18 hotel rooms and a restaurant. [………………………….Roger Rabbit, K. GBS, Left Turn…..What a great new spot for you lefties to “get together”. Not a Republican within miles!!!!!]

  47. 1630

    Skagit spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 7:40 pm

    HARRY: “The time to have started building support for a primary challenge was in 2003. Waiting until the year of the election is waiting too long. Left Democrats need to sacrifice to keep campaigns alive,. . . ”

    You are a wise man. I agree. Candidates must start very early esp. if they are going to go begging for funding. Hong Tran is a candidate you would like. She is in touch with the heart of the democratic credo as I see it. Have you visited her website?

  48. 1631

    Michael spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 7:43 pm

    A large-scale government-financed study has concluded that [government schools are just as good as nongovernment schools]
    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01.....38;emc=rss

    Imagine that.

  49. 1632

    REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX] spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 7:44 pm

    Goldysteinberg, That evil Bush has taken away the civil rights as the citizens of Haifa are now under marshal law. This is taking away their rights!!!! That evil Bush!!!!!! ……………………………………………………………………………………… Oh, wait. Haifi is in Isreal. Never mind. hehe, Rossanna Rossanadana [SNL]

  50. 1633

    REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX] spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 7:46 pm

    Skagit, Doing away with the Electorial College? An extra 3 million illegal Democrat votes in Detriot and NYC would swing a national election. Thank God for the Electorial College!!!

  51. 1634

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 7:47 pm

    Democrats do not want honest elections. You can not be for honest election and be against a voter ID. Democrats have always cheated to get into power. For every million votes for a democrat 10-20 thousand are fraudulent. The ACVR and other organization have documented this and it is old news. Democrats = Voter fraud.

  52. 1635

    REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX] spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 7:48 pm

    Michael, Yes, A large-scale government-financed study has concluded that [government schools are just as good as nongovernment schools. ]This is why the Clintons sent their only daughter to public schools!!!…………………………………………….Oh, wait. They didn’t? Never mind. Rosaanna Rossanadana [SNL]

  53. 1636

    For the Clueless spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 7:56 pm

    pbj, jch, bet-welsher: minor footnotes in the annals of wingnut idiocy.

  54. 1637

    For the Clueless spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 7:57 pm

    Almost forgot: add DOOFUS to that list.

  55. 1638

    Skagit spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 7:59 pm

    Well, there goes honest discussion. Back to the cretin trolls and trashers.

    RuFuK: Have you given back your medals yet? Cowards don’t deserve medals. GIVE ‘EM BACK YOU COWARD. OR PUT YOUR MEDICAL RECORDS ON THIS BLOG!

  56. 1639

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 8:06 pm

    Why are the republicans looking up gay bath houses?

  57. 1640

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 8:08 pm

    HONG is HOT she has got my vote :-)

  58. 1641

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 8:13 pm

    And yes the republicans are right. I have to say when there right there right . I looked up socialism after being called a socialist forever and communist and after reading much of what marx sead and wrote about they were right I am a socialist here is the like so you can see for your self http://www.marxists.org/

    I have to give this one to the republicans .

    But the republicans are fascist if you look up fascism you will find the republican platform.

  59. 1642

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 8:15 pm

    60

    Another vote for McGavick.

  60. 1643

    Skagit spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 8:19 pm

    Socialist . . . you think they will look it up? They’d rather argue from their asses rather than their brains. Don’t waste you time with ’em.

    Roger: You know better than that! A primary isn’t a vote for the repubs. Gawd, and here I thought you knew what you were talking about. I’m votin’ for her too.

  61. 1644

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 8:23 pm

    HONG is HOT she has got my vote

    Commentby The Socialist— 7/16/06@ 8:08 pm

    I agree!!!!! Socialist you need to keep on posting this on HA and other local liberal blogs. She is a viable third party candidate. You can make a name for yourself if she end up with 100,000 or more votes. Keep up the good work.

  62. 1645

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 8:26 pm

    RuFuK: Have you given back your medals yet? Cowards don’t deserve medals. GIVE ‘EM BACK YOU COWARD. OR PUT YOUR MEDICAL RECORDS ON THIS BLOG!

    Commentby Skagit— 7/16/06@ 7:59 pm

    Man these donks sure get mad when you call bullshit on them. All were aking for is Kerry to do the same thing Bush did. Release his miltary medical records. Why is that so hard?

  63. 1646

    Skagit spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 8:27 pm

    WHEN YOU GOING TO GIVE BACK THOSE MEDALS, RUFUK?

  64. 1647

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 8:34 pm

    I will never forgive Kerry for what he did if he would have stood up and demanded a investagation and recount he would be president.

    Kerry is a boob

  65. 1648

    Skagit spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 8:39 pm

    Agree with you about that, Socialist. But I think we can both agree he was a hero in Viet Nam and when he came home.

  66. 1649

    Skagit spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 8:40 pm

    HAVE YOU GIVEN YOUR MEDALS BACK RUFUK? I WANNA SEE YOUR MEDICAL RECORDS COWARD.

  67. 1650

    REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX] spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 8:41 pm

    I will never forgive Kerry for what he did if he would have stood up and demanded a investagation and recount he would be president.

    Commentby The Socialist [If only another 200 thousand illegals voted Democrat in Ohio, Kerry would be President!!]

  68. 1651

    REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX] spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 8:42 pm

    Skagit, Care to see mine? JCH [LT, USN, 1110, 76-84]

  69. 1652

    Skagit spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 8:43 pm

    Hey, RP-KKK, lynched anybody today?

  70. 1653

    REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX] spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 8:44 pm

    I agree!!!!! Socialist you need to keep on posting this on HA and other local liberal blogs. She is a viable third party candidate. You can make a name for yourself if she end up with 100,000 or more votes. Keep up the good work. [RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy] […………………………………………………………………………A great idea!! Socialist, I’m with you, too! She will make a great third party candadate!!!!!]

  71. 1654

    Skagit spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 8:45 pm

    71 SO YOU’RE ANOTHER COWARD WITH MEDALS? GIVE ‘EM BACK YOU COWARD OR PROVE YOU EARNED ‘EM. I DON’T BELIEVE YOU EARNED ‘EM. GIVE EM BACK . . . GIVE EM BACK. . . GIVE EM BACK.

    TROLLS, TRASHERS AND COWARDS WITH MEDALS FROM VIET NAM! GIVE ‘EM BACK YOU COWARDS.

  72. 1655

    REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX] spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 8:45 pm

    Why are the republicans looking up gay bath houses?

    Commentby The Socialist [Socialist……………..Can you say Barney Fag, er, Frank?????]

  73. 1656

    Skagit spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 8:47 pm

    RP-KKK: You didn’t answer my question. I must be on to something. Who did you lynch today?

  74. 1657

    Skagit spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 8:48 pm

    RP-KKK: You lynched a gay person, didn’t you? You did! Fess up, you lynched a gay guy . . .

  75. 1658

    REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX] spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 9:01 pm

    77.Skagit, No, That was Robert “KKK” Byrd, DEMOCRAT, WV. hehe, JCH

  76. 1659

    Skagit spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 9:02 pm

    Just heard Mark “faux” Redneck on the show. Thank god Goldy cut him off even if it was inadvertent. Sounded like the fool he is. Muslims are child molesters now. Is that what you called your great, great, great, great grandpa when he married your 14, 15 or16 year old grandma? Huh, Mark?

  77. 1660

    REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX] spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 9:02 pm

    Hey, RP-KKK, lynched anybody today?

    Commentby Skagit [No, but ask Robert “SHEETS” Byrd, DEMOCRAT, WV. hehe, JCH

  78. 1661

    Skagit spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 9:03 pm

    No, It was RP-KKK – YOU. I know who I mean. How many gay guys you lynched this week? Hmmmm?

  79. 1662

    REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX] spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 9:04 pm

    Goldysteinberg, That evil Bush has taken away the civil rights of the citizens of Haifa as they are now under marshal law. This is taking away their rights!!!! That evil Bush!!!!!! ……………………………………………………………………………………… Oh, wait. Haifi is in Isreal. Never mind. hehe, Rossanna Rossanadana [SNL]

  80. 1663

    Skagit spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 9:04 pm

    Is that what you did in Nam or wherever to earn your medals? Lynched the natives? GIVE EM BACK YOU COWARD!

  81. 1664

    ohboy spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 9:04 pm

    interesting comments here…nothing of substance though…all the while Goldy talks school policy with the expert :-)

    Not sure what is more substancial…his discussions on public vs. private schools or the rantings or E and Roger

  82. 1665

    TommieDeLayMeLayMeLayMe spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 9:05 pm

    ……………..Can you say Barney Fag, er, Frank?????]

    Oh, shaftman, yes, yes, yes, I can say Barney. See? And I can also say “Jim West”. Can you say Jim West? Oh, I know you can. You are my hero. OH MY ATLAS!!!! Raise your mighty member and ……SHRUGAH SHRUGGAH SHRUGGAH SHRUG SHRUG SHRUG.

    oH Atlas, I tried the Glock, but I missed. I’m a bugman. I use sprays!!!! Oh ATLAS loose your member and spurt me some dough. My lawyers are desparate. You claim to be rich and a SHRUGGA. Send money. Send it. Send it.

    AWWWAOHHHHHH, OY, OW YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!!!!!!

  83. 1666

    Skagit spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 9:06 pm

    OH, RP-KKK, NOW YOU’RE ON TO JEWS! HOW MANY JEWS YOU GONNA LYNCH BEFORE YOU DIE? C’MON, WHAT’S YOUR GOAL? LET’S SEE NOW, SO FAR YOU LYNCHED VIETNAMESE, GAYS, AND NOW YOU’RE ON TO JEWS? WHEW! YOU MIGHT NEED AN ARMY FOR THAT. OH, I FORGOT. YOU’VE GOT THE WHOLE RIGHTWING WITH YOU!

  84. 1667

    For the Clueless spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 9:19 pm

    Ahh! I missed the bet-welsher? Call again, bet-welsher. We all could use a laugh!

  85. 1668

    The Socialist spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 9:20 pm

    Well good night mates feel free to fight amongst your selves :-)

  86. 1669

    LeftTurn spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 9:27 pm

    I will never forgive Bush for jumping ahead of 125,000 other people who were already in line hoping for the NG instead of Nam. I will never forgive Bush for going AWOL once he got that cush assignment.

  87. 1670

    Robert C Byrd-Democrat US Senator West Virginia spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 9:30 pm

    You tell em Skagit!!!! Yehoww. Has anyone seen my noose? I lost it at my last political rally.

  88. 1671

    Skagit spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 9:35 pm

    90: You tell em Skagit!!!! Yehoww. Has anyone seen my noose? I lost it at my last political rally.

    DON’T YOU REMEMBER? YOU GOT ETHICAL AND WISE AND GAVE PUT THAT NOOSE IN THE GARBAGE WHERE RP-KKK’S GRANDADDY FOUND IT. WE SHOULDA BURNED THAT THING!

  89. 1672

    Joe Pappa Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 9:36 pm

    Did someone say they were gonna hang Jews!!!? Where, I want to hang some. Please, oh please can I hang some Jews?!

  90. 1673

    REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX] spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 9:36 pm

    TommieDeLayMeLayMeLayMe, Try again! Don’t give up! Load the Glock and swallow it! Good luck, JCH

  91. 1674

    Robert C Byrd-Democrat US Senator West Virginia spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 9:42 pm

    91

    Hehe. That is what I tell the few dozen liberal Christians who vote for me. Hell I am good old fashion democrat!! I would never vote for civil rights for ni…bleep. Thanks for your support skagit and remember…. HANG EM HIGH!!!

  92. 1675

    Living in the 8th spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 9:47 pm

    Fully a third of Seattle families are sending their kids to private school? My goodness, that’s almost unbelievable. Says something about SPS and their reputation.

  93. 1676

    Robert C Byrd-Democrat US Senator West Virginia spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 9:47 pm

    91

    Psssssst….. eh er Skagit. Remember we burn crosses not nooses!! Damn you west coast Dems aint to bright are ya.

  94. 1677

    Skagit spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 9:47 pm

    So, RPKKK, now you lynch Blacks too. How many Blacks you lynched this week? Hmmm. Tell me true, big guy! GIVE BACK THOSE MEDALS, YOU COWARD.

  95. 1678

    Skagit spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 9:49 pm

    Oh, Byrdie baby, you always get it wrong. You haven’t burned crosses for years and years. You gotta quit seein’ that grandpappy of RP-KKK’s. He’s just such a bad influence on you. GIVE BACK THOSE MEDALS RP-KKK.

  96. 1679

    Robert C Byrd-Democrat US Senator West Virginia spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 9:52 pm

    How many medals do you own Skagit? Man you must have a butload the way you talk. Where did you serve?

  97. 1680

    Mark The Redneck Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 9:52 pm

    Wasn’t me guys… I was working around the house with Drudge on. Getting some real info…

  98. 1681

    Richard Pope spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 10:00 pm

    Looks like David Duke agrees with David Goldstein’s position on Israel:

    http://www.duke.org/

  99. 1682

    Skagit spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 10:05 pm

    RPKKK: GIVE BACK THOSE MEDALS YOU COWARD! SHOW ME YOUR MEDICAL RECORDS! GIVE EM BACK GIVE EM BACK GIVE EM BACK YOU LYING, LYNCH’N, SACK OF COWARDLY LIES. GIVE EM BACK!

  100. 1683

    Skagit spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 10:07 pm

    That was you, Faux Redneck, recognize your low IQ anywhere. . . why deny it? You ASHAMED? You’re probably another coward . . .

  101. 1684

    jsa on commercial drive spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 10:07 pm

    Because Saddam decided to play fucking games with us re WMD. See, it wasn’t up to us to prove he had them… it was up to him to prove he didn’t. And he didn’t.

    Cool. I assert MTRK killed 5 people in cold blood between 1995-2001. It is up to him to prove he didn’t, or I will get to dispense frontier justice on him next time I cross his path.

    Damn boy, how’d you get out of injuneering college with such weak grades on formal logic?

  102. 1685

    John McDonald spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 10:08 pm

    # of named storms in the Atlantic this year = 1, Major Hurricanes = 0.

    # of named storms in the Atlantic last year at this time = 5 (this will be at 7 by the end of the month)

    Are we headed for an ICE AGE now that we have a year (so far) that is historically low in fact one of the lowest in record for both number and intensity?

  103. 1686

    Skagit spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 10:09 pm

    YOU SAY YOU EARNED THOSE MEDALS! FUCKING NO YOU DIDN’T . . . PROVE IT! LET’S SEE YOUR MEDICAL RECORDS! PROVE IT YOU COWARDLY SACK OF LYIN’ LYNCHIN’ SHIT.

  104. 1687

    Dr. E spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 10:10 pm

    40
    Awesome post, Mark. This oughta be fun:

    1) Because the survival of the civilized world is at stake.

    Define “civilized world”, and what exactly is at stake. Of course, I pretty much know what you’d say, and it’d be just another Manichean struggle with different window-dressing. A typical tactic in fascist rhetoric, by the way.

    2) Because people yearn to be free. Free of a sociopathic dictator who killed his own people. Free from an incompetent and corrupt leader who ruined the country.

    To paraphrase Rumsfeld, you’re pretending to know the unknowable. But, even if I cede that point, that still begs the question of “why Iraq”? I mean, surely we could have liberated North Korea, where the situation is far more dire for millions, or intervened in Darfur, Congo, or a whole host of other places. What makes Iraq so special? There are dozens of undemocratic nations across the globe, many of which are led by sociopaths. Take Turkmenistan or Uzbekistan, for instance.

    3) Because they were sponsoring terrorism which threatens Murka.
    Right, the ole Saddam-Al Qaeda gambit. Again, this still doesn’t answer the question “why Iraq”, as there are other nations which sponsor terrorist organizations targeting America and/or American interests.

    4) Because Saddam decided to play fucking games with us re WMD. See, it wasn’t up to us to prove he had them… it was up to him to prove he didn’t. And he didn’t.
    Sure he played games, but we basically knew what capabilities he had. There’s a mountain of evidence in support of that as well, just google “Scott Ritter” and start there. Nevertheless, that would lead back to the original question —”Why did we invade Iraq?”—since surely this could have been handled by a joint UN military operation, if it came down to that.

    So yes, I still have one more question: Why did we invade Iraq? Your “grown-ups” in Wash. DC haven’t answered that one, they just keep rotating reasons while simultaneously repeating their mantra of “9/11”. At some point that mantra loses its effect, people start to see into their chicken-little rhetorical scam, and want answers. Real answers. Not any of this “bringing democracy to the Middle East” or “he had/wanted/could have built and given away WMD” bullshit. The reasons given for this war in the run-up to the actual invasion were, in my opinion, transparently false, depending for its success on a gullible and scared citizenry that is vastly ignorant of the crucial issues (including simple matters of geography). The fact that they succeeded for so long, and that a minority of Americans still believe this propaganda bespeaks of just how ignorant many in this country really are.

  105. 1688

    Skagit spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 10:10 pm

    HEY MRK – YOU WERE TOO ON THAT RADIO. PROVE YOU WEREN’T. PROVE IT, I SAY. PROVE IT RIGHT NOW. . . ANOTHER LYIN’ CRAPPER.

  106. 1689

    Dan Rather-Whats the frequency-Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 10:17 pm

    Yeah MRK- PROVE IT!!!!! IN FACT I HAVE DOCUMENTS SAYING THAT YOU WERE ON THE RADIO…. wait… whats that Mary. Oh nevermind.

  107. 1690

    Dan Rather-Whats the frequency-Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 10:18 pm

    Skagit you have got it son. You have what we call in the news biz gravitas. You would do good in the MSM. Courage Skagit, courage.

  108. 1691

    Skagit spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 10:28 pm

  109. 1692

    Skagit spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 10:31 pm

    YOU’VE USED THAT ONE BEFORE YOU STUPID TROLL-DAN-CLAN COWARDS.

    HEY, COWARDS LIKE YOU DIDN’T EARN NO MEDALS! GIVE EM BACK! REAL HEROS CAN POST UNDER THEIR OWN NAMES . . . GIVE EM BACK YOU COWARDS!

    PUDDN’HEAD! FAUX REDNECK! RP-KKK! RUFUK! GIVE EM BACK! AND THEN QUIT USING PANTY-ASS NAMES TO POST UNDER.

    COWARDS, EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU!

  110. 1693

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 10:38 pm

    I’d like to take this opportunity to expand on the very truncated remarks I made in the closing seconds of Goldy’s show tonight.

    A reporter’s job is to report events of community significance objectively and factually. When the reporter is covering a political beat, s/he operates in an environment full of opportunists, propagandists, liars, and snake oil peddlers. The media is too willing to let itself be used as a conduit for what partisans say; that’s not journalism, it’s merely disseminating propaganda.

    Reporters and editors are considered professionals because they bring trained judgment to the question of what should be reported, and how it should be reported. They are the public’s shield against rumor, misinformation, and lies. Knowing what is true, and what isn’t, is part of their job.

    I agree with David Postman that Newt Gingrich’s “World War III” comment is news. However, the real news is not that Gingrich says we’re in World War III. To report only what he says is merely parroting Gingrich’s partisan propaganda. The news story here is that Gingrich’s use of “World War III” rhetoric signals the GOP intends to use a cynical campaign tactic in this fall’s elections.

    Gingrich’s remark is ridiculous. We are not fighting World War III, we are conducting a police action against an organization of a few thousand terrorists who lack national resources and military forces. The “World War III” rhetoric is intended to whip up fear, as a prelude to attempting to persuade voters that Democrats can’t protect them from a threat that is being deliberately overstated.

    In my opinion, the media has grown timid about calling “bullshit” on partisan rhetoric. They are entirely too fearful of being criticized as “biased.” Calling a spade a spade is not biased reporting, it’s accurate reporting. If the media doesn’t play the “buyer beware” role in reporting on politics, then who will? No one. When a propagandist like Gingrich comes along, the reporter’s job is to ask hard questions like, “Isn’t this just a ploy to make people afraid to vote for Democrats?” and hold the politician’s feet to the fire of truth.

    The media, having become timid and fearful of partisan charges of bias, have abrogated the essential role of reporting.

  111. 1694

    Skagit spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 10:45 pm

    Sorry about the italics. I forgot to shut them off and now can’t do it. So, say what you say with pride!

    GIVE BACK THOSE MEDALS YOU FAUX HEROES, LYERS, LYNCHERS!

  112. 1695

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 10:51 pm

    I have some questions for Newt:

    If we’re in a world war, how come …

    Congress hasn’t declared war, raised taxes to pay for military spending, or authorized conscription?
    The government hasn’t mobilized the nation’s industrial and manpower resources?
    The government doesn’t impose gasoline rationing?
    Congress refuses to spend money to protect our ports?
    The president isn’t forming a grand coalition of allied nations?
    Civilians are holding fundraisers to buy soldiers basic equipment like helmets?

    Things in this country sure are “business as usual!” Looking around me, I’d never have known there’s a “world war” onn, if Newt hadn’t told me.

  113. 1696

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 10:51 pm

    2

    Didn’t you hear the static when people tried to call in?

  114. 1697

    Skagit spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 11:28 pm

    RPKKK; REDNECK, PUDD’NHEAD, RUFUK:

    GIVE BACK THOSE MEDALS YOU LYIN’, CHEATIN’, LYNCHIN’ SACK OF COWARDICE!

  115. 1698

    Dave Gibney spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 11:29 pm

    Thanks for the airtime. Mr. Postman didn’t seem very impressed wih a possible Goldmark or Wright win. Let’s see if we can prove him wrong !

  116. 1699

    Anonymous spews:

    Sunday, 7/16/06 at 11:36 pm

  117. 1700

    REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX] spews:

    Monday, 7/17/06 at 12:08 am

    Maybe Israel needs to try a prisoner exchange to end this thing after all. How about exchanging David Goldstein and Barbara Feinstein for the two Israelis being held by Hezbollah, and George Soros for the Israeli being held by Hamas?

    I am sure this sort of arrangement would be acceptable to the Israelis.

    Commentby Richard Pope [……………………………………………………………………..Classically funny!! The Post Of The Day!! Congrats RP!!!!!!]

  118. 1701

    REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX] spews:

    Monday, 7/17/06 at 12:15 am

    Boston – It could take months to fix problems in the entire Big Dig highway system and reopen the roads, Gov. Mitt Romney said yesterday, the same day another ramp was closed to traffic because of what he called a ”systemic failure.” /break/ The ramp, which connects Interstate 90 westbound to Interstate 93 north and south, had been previously identified by Romney’s inspection teams as a potential trouble spot, said Jon Carlisle, a state Highway Department spokesman.

    I don’t know about kickbacks, but I’d say it’s a sure bet that both J. Effin and Ted Swimmer were guaranteed 100% of the union votes for bringing home the biggest slab of bacon in U.S. history.

    A little further investigation may show that the bolts (!?!?) used to hold the multi-ton slabs of concrete up were not fully tightened because the Democrats on union break or lunchtime bell rang during their placement. Democrat union members don’t work one minute more than they have to.

    Considering all the pork thrown at this abomination, I vote it be renamed The Big Democrat Pig Fuck.

  119. 1702

    Anonymous spews:

    Monday, 7/17/06 at 12:18 am

    And I vote you all be renamed the COWARD’S BRIGADE! YOU ARE ABOMINABLE! YOU ARE A SLUR ON THE SERVICE! YOU SHOULD GIVE BACK THOSE MEDALS UNTIL YOU CAN PROVE YOU LYIN’, LYNCHIN’, COWARDS EARNED EM.

    YOU ARE THE ABOMINATIONS!

  120. 1703

    Skagit spews:

    Monday, 7/17/06 at 12:39 am

    FUCKIN’ RIGHT, ANON! GLAD TO SEE YA!

  121. 1704

    Proud to be an Ass spews:

    Monday, 7/17/06 at 4:20 am

    My. What bold comments.

  122. 1705

    rhp6033 spews:

    Monday, 7/17/06 at 7:13 am

  123. 1706

    rhp6033 spews:

    Monday, 7/17/06 at 7:13 am

  124. 1707

    rhp6033 spews:

    Monday, 7/17/06 at 7:23 am

    There are only two groups of people who want the current conflicts in the Middle East to become, or recognized as, WWIII.

    1. Islamic terrorist leaders, who yearn for recognition as leading a world-wide jihad against the “Imperialist Crusaders”. The Republicans think they want to attack American without us fighting back. On the contrary, they have spent the better part of two decades TRYING to get the U.S. to attack them. That way they can then play the victim, and call for support from Islamics around the world to come to the defense of their bretheren against the evil “Crusaders”. Seems to be working.

    2. Newt Gingrich, George Bush, Karl Rove, Rumsfield, and Cheney, et al., who want another crisis so they can call us to “rally ’round the flag”, ignore the mess they’ve maken over the past six years, and impose censorship so they can prevent anyone from pointing out that the emporer has no clothes, and win one or two more elections. After all, they still have work to do. Even if the Federal Treasury is empty, they still have borrowing capacity against future generations, and they haven’t yet sold off all our roads, bridges, national parks, etc. to their corporate alter-egos.

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  131. 1714

    GangubaSIk spews:

    Tuesday, 8/1/06 at 1:28 am

    Hi!!!
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  132. 1715

    Sooc spews:

    Sunday, 8/6/06 at 5:28 am

    Good job.

“The David Goldstein Show” tonight, on Newsradio 710-KIRO

by Goldy — Sunday, 7/9/06, 1:17 pm

[UPDATE: Sen. Cantwell to call in at 8:07PM.]

It’s a jam-packed lineup tonight on “The David Goldstein Show”– Newsradio 710-KIRO, from 7PM to 10PM — lots to talk about and lots of people to talk with.

7PM: Why does President Bush hate working Americans? Kathy Casavante of the AFL-CIO’s Voice@Work Campaign will join me to explain administration efforts to redefine the word “supervisor” so as to take away the right to organize from millions of workers. Later on in the hour we’ll be joined by nurses from Virginia Mason Medical Centers, whose proposal to reclassify all 600 registered nurses as supervisors is nothing more than a naked attempt to bust the local and state nursing union.

8PM: Democratic challenger and putative anti-war candidate Mark Wilson just dropped out of the race, endorsed Sen. Maria Cantwell, and announced his intention to campaign full time on her behalf. I’ll talk with Sen. Maria Cantwell at the top of the hour, and then Mark join me to take your calls and answer the question: What changed his mind?

9PM: You say you want a progressive revolution? Progressive Majority Executive Director Gloria Totten joins me to tell us what her organization is doing to turn our nation around from the ground up, by training and supporting local progressive candidates in local races. And later on I’ll ask the question if, in addition to all the grassroots, hard-work, infrastructure building… maybe Democrats also have to start getting dirty?

Tune in tonight (or listen to the live stream) and give me a call: 1-877-710-KIRO (5476).

UPDATE:
Sen. Cantwell is now joining me at the top of the 8PM hour, and I’ve moved Gloria Totten to the 9PM hour to make accomodate the Senator’s schedule.

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  1. 1716

    pbj spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 1:19 pm

    How can this be? I thought Goerge W Bush was suppressing dissent and free speech all over the country.

  2. 1717

    pbj spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 1:29 pm

    Mr Goldstein,

    In your propagand piece on the fluffington blog, you fail to mention that the Ken Lay dirty deeds were done under the Clinton administration (Clinton had lobbied India to allow Enron’s electric plant in Bhopal India), but he was prosecuted under the Bush administration.

    No amount of mean spirited spin can change those facts.

  3. 1718

    Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 1:39 pm

    PBJ=Sock Puppet,liar,all afround shill and Rightwingnut Troll. Mod down 5.

  4. 1719

    Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 1:42 pm

    Sure glad we’re hearing the good news out of Iraq. Forty dead on the streets today. Gee, guess those 75,000 crack Iraqu\i police are really doing the trick. . . .
    Spin that fool.

  5. 1720

    LeftTurn spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 2:22 pm

    WOW! a republican who tells the truth. This is PBJ’s worst nightmare. Republican says Bush broke law. I suppose it’s Clinton’s fault that Bush broke the law too?
    http://www.crooksandliars.com/.....-programs/

  6. 1721

    LeftTurn spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 2:25 pm

    Not that PBJ sucks Dick even knows what a fact is, but here are some…

    Enron and Lay Were Strong Supporters of Bush and Republicans. Kenneth Lay, Enron’s CEO, was a Bush Pioneer in 2000, raising at least $100,000 for the Bush Presidential campaign. Enron gave $1,114,490 to the RNC, $300,000 to the Bush inaugural, and $113,800 directly to Bush’s presidential campaign from Enron employees. Lay was also a co-chairman of an April 2000 RNC gala tribute to Bush, meaning that he raised or contributed at least $250,000 for that event. At the time, Enron was Bush’s largest career patron. Furthermore, as the Financial Times reported, “Perhaps the greatest example of Mr. Lay’s cache was an affectionate nickname from President Bush – ‘Kenny Boy’ – which reflected his close ties to the White House as both a donor and adviser.” [San Diego Union-Tribune, 2/11/01; Atlanta Journal-Constitution, 4/27/00; Financial Times, 7/8/04; Center for Responsive Politics, http://www.crp.org; Political Money Line, http://www.tray.com]

    Lay Donated More Than $120,000 to Bush’s Gubernatorial Campaigns. Bush ran for Governor of Texas in 1994 and 1998. Enron CEO Kenneth Lay donated $122,500 to his campaign and Enron was a “Gold” sponsor for both gubernatorial inaugural committees that cost a total of $100,000. [USA Today, 11/30/01; Texas State Archives, “1995 Texas Inaugural Committee;” “1999 Texas Inaugural Committee”]
    Bush Used Enron Corporate Jet as Presidential Candidate. In 1999, as a presidential candidate, the Bush campaign used Enron’s corporate jet for campaign purposes. According to a study by the Center for Responsive Politics, Bush used the Enron corporate jet “eight times last year [1999], trips for which they were reimbursed” $25,302. Enron spokeswoman Karen Denne said that Bush personally approached Enron CEO Kenneth Lay and asked for use of the jet. [Washington Post, 2/1/00]
    Enron Contributed Over $3 Million to GOP/Bush Sr. and W. in Ten-Year Span. From 1992-2002, Enron contributed a total $3,021,108 to the Republican National Committee, the National Republican Congressional Committee, the National Republican Senatorial Committee, Bush-Quayle ‘92 and George W. Bush 2000. [Campaign Study Group, 1/02]

  7. 1722

    LeftTurn spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 2:25 pm

    Not that PBJ sucks Dick even knows what a fact is, but here are some more…

    Bush and Lay Met in the 1980s. According to the New York Times, “The relationship between Mr. Bush and Mr. Lay is close, and old: the two men got to know each other in the 1980’s, when Mr. Lay was a big political supporter of Governor Bush’s father, former President George Bush.” [New York Times, 6/30/00]

    Lay Worked to Get Bush Library in Houston in 1989, Committed Funds in 1990. As early as July 1989, Ken Lay was leading a charge to bring the Bush presidential library to the University of Houston. In 1990, Lay, as University of Houston system Board of Regents chairman, announced that the board had committed $35 million toward the library. George H. W. Bush announced that Texas A&M in College Station would house his presidential library in spring of 1991. [Dallas Morning News/AP, 4/27/90; Chicago Tribune, 7/3/89; Houston Chronicle, 12/9/93]

    Lay Worked With Bush on Houston Convention in 1992. According to the Houston Chronicle, “An ally of the elder George Bush, Lay worked closely with George W. Bush during the Republican National Convention in Houston in 1992, when Lay co-chaired the host committee.” Another Houston Chronicle story says, “Lay, a friend of Bush’s father, became close to the Oval Office’s current occupant in 1992. Lay was serving as co-chair of the host committee for the Republican National Convention in Houston, where the elder Bush was nominated for a second term.” [Houston Chronicle, 4/15/01; 12/29/01]

  8. 1723

    LeftTurn spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 2:26 pm

    Not that PBJ sucks Dick even knows what a fact is, but here are some more…

    Lay Gave Cheney a Memo That Called for Rejection of Price Caps; Memo Was Integrated Into Energy Plan. During a meeting between then-Enron CEO Kenneth Lay and Cheney in April 2001, Lay gave Cheney a memo that outlined some of Enron’s positions on energy. Included in the Enron memo were notes on price caps negative impact on energy markets. “The administration should reject any attempt to re-regulate wholesale power markets by adopting price caps or returning to archaic methods of determining the cost-base of wholesale power,” the memo said. “Events in California and in other parts of the country demonstrated that the benefits of competition have yet to be realized and have not yet reached consumers,” the memo said. Cheney’s energy plan advocated against price caps and calls for a bail out for energy consumers in California. [San Francisco Chronicle, 1/30/02]

  9. 1724

    LeftTurn spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 2:26 pm

    Not that PBJ sucks Dick even knows what a fact is, but here are some more…

    Karl Rove Held Over $100,000 of Enron Stock. White House Political Advisor Karl Rove held Enron stock worth between $100,000 to $250,000 while the Bush administration was writing its energy plan. [US News & World Report, 6/18/01]

    Ralph Reed Lobbied For Enron. After receiving a recommendation from Karl Rove, Enron hired former Christian Coalition executive director and current candidate for Georgia Lt. Governor Ralph Reed for lobbying services. According to the New York Times, “Associates of Karl Rove, Mr. Bush’s top political adviser, said he had recommended a lucrative consulting contract with Enron for Ralph Reed, the Republican strategist, as Mr. Bush was weighing whether to run for president.” In an October 23, 2000 memo to Enron, Reed wrote, “We are a loyal member of your team and are prepared to do whatever fits your strategic plan. … In public policy, it matters less who has the best arguments and more who gets heard — and by whom.” [New York Times, 1/25/02; Washington Post, 2/10/02; 2/17/02]

  10. 1725

    David Wright spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 2:55 pm

    Goldy: I don’t get the meaning of “playing dirty”. Do you mean that you think Ken Lay was probably knocked off, and Democrats should start knocking off inconvient people, too? Or do you mean that you think Key Lay probably wasn’t knocked off, but Democrats should start making unfounded and wildly improbable allogations in order to confuse the electorate?

  11. 1726

    Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 2:57 pm

    Here’s something to think about for all you folks whose knickers are in a twist over N. Korea testing nuclear capable missiles:

    India has successfully carried out its first test of a nuclear-capable ballistic missile with a range of 4,000km.
    dateline June 9,2006

    India has yet to sign the Nuclear Non-ProliferationTreaty.

    I know this Whitehouse probably thinks “it’s just a Goddamn piece of paper!” And whose idea of successfully trading nuclear materials for mangoes with this nuclear outsider. . . but it is one of the few things this sorry world has going for it in this ‘Ocean of troubled Waters’.

  12. 1727

    For the Clueless spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 3:01 pm

    I thought Goerge W Bush was suppressing dissent and free speech all over the country.

    He might be through wingnut minions and shills like pbj or Michelle Malkin or David Horowitz or Powerline or …

    Case in point: the phony treason rap against the NY Times over the Cheney/Rumsfeld mansions.

  13. 1728

    Harry Tuttle spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 3:13 pm

    An interesting juxtapositon, Enron on a trade mission with Clinton in 2000, before the scandal broke vs. Ken Lay the Bush Pioneer and campaign plane lender.

    As it turned out, Enron backed out of the deal a year later because the Indians refused to pay, a situation that has a local ring to it.

    About the same time Clinton went to India and was received like a rock star.

    ANJAR, India, April 4 [2001]- Thousands of people, precariously balanced on mountains of rubble in this earthquake-ravaged town, chanted ”Clinton, Clinton!” as the former president toured the ruins today, solemnly laying roses in a lane where 150 schoolchildren were buried alive when the ground shook on Jan. 26.

    Bill Clinton still draws adoring throngs of ordinary Indians a year after he became the first American president to visit this country of one billion people in 22 years.

    This time, he came as chairman of the new American India Foundation, which was formed by wealthy Indian-American entrepreneurs, executives and doctors. They have set themselves a goal of raising $50 million to rebuild 100 of the 1,000 villages that were destroyed.

    For the people here, Mr. Clinton was simply a good man who was coming to their aid. In Ratnal, a prosperous village of truck drivers and farmers that was flattened by the earthquake, clusters of elderly men in white turbans, women in the traditional mirrored and embroidered dress of the region and young workers taking a day off lined the road for a glimpse of Mr. Clinton.

    In the town of Anjar, admirers broke through the police barricades to encircle and touch Mr. Clinton.

    He finished up in Bhuj with a tour of the Red Cross field hospital. In his last words, as he tried to explain why he gone so far from home to find people to help, he said, “I’m just trying to find something useful to do in a place I care about.”

  14. 1729

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 3:39 pm

    FEDERAL DEFICIT DROPS AS REVENUES SURGE

    “WASHINGTON — An unexpectedly steep rise in tax revenues from corporations and the wealthy is driving down the budget deficit this year, even though spending has climbed sharply because of the war in Iraq and hurricane relief.

    “On Tuesday, White House officials are expected to announce that the tax receipts will be about $250 billion above last year’s levels and that the deficit will be about $100 billion less than what they projected six months ago.

    …

    “The main reason is a big spike in corporate tax receipts, which have nearly tripled since 2003, as well as what appears to be a big rise in individual taxes on stock-market profits and executive bonuses.”

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....omy09.html

    But Republicans deserve little or no credit for this, because they want to eliminate corporate income taxes and slash tax rates for upper-income individual taxpayers; which would cause this revenue would disappear.

    If Republicans had their way, revenue would plunge and deficits would soar, instead of the other way around.

  15. 1730

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 3:41 pm

    “How can this be? I thought Goerge W Bush was suppressing dissent and free speech all over the country.” Commentby pbj— 7/9/06@ 1:19 pm

    See Goldy’s post on his serving being down for 12 hours.

  16. 1731

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 3:49 pm

    2

    “No amount of mean spirited spin can change those facts.” Commentby pbj— 7/9/06@ 1:29 pm

    Wow! No amount of mean-spirited rightwing spin can change the ugly facts that:

    – Ken Lay headed Dick Cheney’s secret energy task force.
    – That task force wrote the Bush administration’s energy policy.
    – That policy led to doubling or tripling of prices for all forms of energy including oil, natural gas, and electricity.
    – The task force was staffed with energy industry lobbyists and big shots.
    – The Bush administration went to great lengths to hide what went on in the task force meetings from the media and public.
    – The west coast energy crisis of 2000-2001 was caused in part by deregulation, and in part by market manipulation by Ken Lay’s Enron Corp. and other companies.
    – Republicans supported the electricity market deregulation that resulted in electricity customers in western states getting gouged.
    – Democrats opposed this deregulation.

    Any way you slice it, consumers are FAR MORE LIKELY to get gouged or outright ripped off under a Republican administration than under a Democratic one.

    pbj’s effort to portray Democrats as the anti-consumer party, and Republicans as the pro-consumer party, is beyond pathetic — it’s laughable!

  17. 1732

    Jimmy spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 3:54 pm

    Absolutley sweet lineup Goldy. Wow! I will have to listen in tonight.

  18. 1733

    howcanyou be PROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 3:57 pm

    So, singsong, updown, downup, not gonna talk about the great comeback with your muscical talk voice thing you do??

    How soon do you think our friend, the uncharged/unindicted Fitzmas scrooge Karl will to get to Texas?

  19. 1734

    REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX] spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 4:24 pm

    This is priceless! DEMOCRAT Delaware Senator Joe Biden, who, it appears, is running for president, appeared on C-Span’s ‘Road to the White House’ program. This is where a camera follows around a potential candidate while he grips and grins with supporters at one event or another. They’ve done it for years and it gives you an idea of what the lengthy process of becoming president is like.

    Drudge posted the video, and it shows the good Senator speaking to a supporter…evidently a man of Indian origin. Indian, as in…from India. Biden is shaking hands with the man, who tells him that there is more support to come from the Indian community. Then, the Senator actually said this:

    “In Delaware, the largest growth in population is Indian Americans, moving from India. You cannot go to a 7/11 or a Dunkin Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I’m not joking.”

    Oh yeah … that worked.

    There’s always a problem when those darned cameras follow you around, isn’t it? Now, let’s see how much you read about this in the mainstream media. Except for Drudge, it isn’t getting much play. This is because Biden is a Democrat and because the media favors Democrats, they’ll let this one slide. Sort of like the time The West Virginia Grand Wizard DEMOCRAT used the N word on national television. A complete pass from the press. Imagine if Bill Frist or George W. Bush had made these comments. The firestorm would just be getting underway.

    By the way, the Indian community was none too pleased with Biden’s comments. The chairman of the Indian American Republican Council, himself a surgeon, responded with this statement: “It’s amazing to know we don’t all work at Dunkin Donuts or the local 7/11. The contributions to America by Indian Americans in the fields of medicine, education, science, and business have been well-documented.”

    Let’s see if DEMOCRAT Biden is made to attend sensitivity training. I doubt it. But he won’t show his face around his neighborhood 7/11 anytime soon.

  20. 1735

    howcanyou be PROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 4:27 pm

    The frog threw a tantrum {snicker! now, there’s a surprise!}… L’ITALIA VINCE!

  21. 1736

    Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 4:38 pm

    @18 Do you realize how childish you sound, coming from a pathetic wingnut troll such as yourself, with his nose pressed up against the glass, shutout, unwanted, unheard? Eat Yer Heart out! .

  22. 1737

    Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 4:40 pm

    What does David Goldstein have that you don’t have, ProudAss?
    A Job controlling an influential microphone. Eat yer heart out!

  23. 1738

    Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 4:42 pm

    As someone once said, ProudAss, Should I call you a wha-a-a-a-ambulance?

  24. 1739

    Robert C Byrd-Democrat US Senator West Virginia spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 4:47 pm

    19

    Hey we demcrats are not all racists….. ah nevermind.

  25. 1740

    howcanyou be PROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 4:51 pm

    lol well he aspired to having a “Job controlling an influential microphone” {snicker}… I however am content mocking the nutburgers and laughing at the loonies…. and as YOU so well prove YOU can be BOTH!

  26. 1741

    howcanyou be PROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 4:53 pm

    How many tree frogs do you farm in a single season? Is there much call for them? Oh wait, I bet your a TAXPAYER (read, ME) subsidized tree frog farmer.

  27. 1742

    howcanyou be PROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 4:56 pm

    How can you successfully do anything let alone a time consuming job like tree frog farming, when you spend so much time here?

  28. 1743

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 4:57 pm

    If John Kerry is stuck up a tree, would bringing him down be considered tree frog farming??

  29. 1744

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 5:00 pm

    If Jean Chretien is stuck up that same tree, would bringing him down be considered faux tree frog farming?

  30. 1745

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 5:03 pm

    Oh good God, this is , isn’t it??

  31. 1746

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 5:04 pm

    shoot…

    let me try again…

    Oh good God, this is you, isn’t it?

  32. 1747

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 5:04 pm

    Hop into the realm of healing with flower essences, aromatherapy, herbs and native plants lovingly grown in partnership with Nature at Tree Frog Farm!

  33. 1748

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 5:09 pm

    You’re tree-hugging comrades didn’t behave too well in the Rockies.

    Damned inconsiderate tree-huggers

  34. 1749

    bigbyrd spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 5:39 pm

    Progressive??

    In Liberal speak it really means Repressive!

  35. 1750

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 5:46 pm

    Nah it means “please, please please don’t call me a liberal, those horrible big bad dumb yet conniving conservatives have made it a ‘bad name’.”

  36. 1751

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 5:51 pm

    Any questions?

  37. 1752

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 5:53 pm

    The fact tax receipts from corporations and wealthy individuals are soaring tells you who’s getting all the money under the “Bush economy,” doesn’t it.

  38. 1753

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 5:55 pm

    Progressive = a incognito liberal

  39. 1754

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 5:56 pm

    18

    Could you explain how Tom DeLay, a Virginia resident, can run for Congress in Texas, a state he doesn’t live in anymore? I’m pretty sure that’s illegal.

  40. 1755

    Harry Tuttle spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 5:56 pm

    19.

    Nope, Keith Olberman ran the clip on “Countdown” Friday.

    But, what’s new about Biden running for president and saying something stupid?

    I guess he never watched “The Simpsons”.

  41. 1756

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 5:57 pm

    19

    JCH — what country did your ancestor come from? Reason I ask is, I plan to take up a collection on HA to send you back there.

  42. 1757

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 5:57 pm

    Oh I’m pretty sure he’ll take a page from the ‘I love the Yankees’ girl herself…

  43. 1758

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 5:58 pm

    or was it the Mets she loved?

  44. 1759

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 5:59 pm

    maybe she just love it when she yanked the Mets and met the Yankees… so hard to keep her positions straight… LMAO ask Monica!

  45. 1760

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 5:59 pm

    25

    If you’re content to spend your time mocking a half dozen liberals and one (1) talking rabbit … you need to get a job.

  46. 1761

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 6:02 pm

    Nah, I don’t need a job… laughing at the ultimate mockables keeps me healthy!

  47. 1762

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 6:03 pm

    33

    OMIGOD — campers left TRAILS in a public forest! We gotta put a stop to that!!! It makes the clearcuts look ugly!!!

  48. 1763

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 6:04 pm

    46

    Just as I suspected — ProudAss is a FREELOADER living off the labor of others!!!

  49. 1764

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 6:14 pm

    You mean to tell me that the posting you loonies do here is so hard it’s LABOR???

    OMG! You are all more pathetic (AND more mockable) than I thought.

    Hells bells, can I get much healthier!!??

  50. 1765

    REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX] spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 7:05 pm

    Just as I suspected – ProudAss is a FREELOADER living off the labor of others!!!

    Commentby Roger Rabbit [……Coming from a “guvment union hack”, your attack is loony.]

  51. 1766

    LeftTurn spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 7:32 pm

    Now that even the republicans are saying that the traitor and coward Bush violated the law when spying on us in the name of freedom, it’s time to send this fool back to Texas where he can go back to fucking cows and bailing hiw twin whore daughters out of jail. He’s a coward who’s about to let N. Korea bonefuck us while bankrupting us in a wasted war for oil that he lied about while stealing our civil rights from us. No doubt whatsoever he’ll go down as the worst president ever!

  52. 1767

    pbj spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 7:50 pm

    Left Turn,

    How meanspirited of you. Is TIME magazine a right wing outlet?

    Enron’s Democrat Pals

    Documents obtained by TIME show the energy giant enjoyed much closer ties with Clinton Administration regulators than was generally known.

    Before its messy decline and fall, Enron had plenty of clout in George W. Bush’s Washington, from the personal ties between chairman Ken Lay and the President to the company’s alleged influence on Vice President Dick Cheney’s energy task force. But Enron’s cozy relationship with Washington didn’t start there. Documents obtained by TIME show the energy giant enjoyed much closer ties with Clinton Administration regulators than was generally known. Long before Cheney’s task force met with Enron officials and included their ideas in Bush’s energy plan, Clinton’s energy team was doing much the same thing. Drafting a 1995 plan to help facilitate cash flow and credit for energy producers, it asked for Enron’s input—and listened. The staff was directed to “rework the proposal to take into account the specific comments and suggestions you made,” Clinton Deputy Energy Secretary Bill White wrote an Enron official.

    Clinton officials also made efforts to help Enron get business overseas. Clinton Energy Secretary Hazel O’Leary included Enron officials on trade missions to India, China, Pakistan and South Africa. White, returning from a 1994 trip to Mexico, wrote chairman Lay that “much opportunity” existed there for natural gas, and he sent a copy of Mexico’s energy plans. To persuade an Enron senior vice president to join a mission to Pakistan, White wrote, “I have strong personal relationships with the existing government.”

    Enron showed its gratitude. At Christmas 1995, documents show, it donated an unknown sum of cash in O’Leary’s name to a charity called “I Have a Dream.” And when Clinton ran for re-election a year later,[b] the company made its largest single contribution ever—$100,000—to the President’s party. [/b]

    http://www.time.com/time/busin.....80,00.html

    Wow. No wonder Clinton didn’t prosecute his boy Kenny.

  53. 1768

    pbj spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 7:57 pm

    “It is not that Enron Democrats got a lot of money themselves from the now-ruined energy company, but they are implicated in more significant ways. On various matters, they helped set the stage for the scandalous behavior of Enron and other highfliers now in disgrace. They defended the degraded accounting standards that hoodwinked investors. Or they promoted financial gimmicks and deregulatory measures that opened the way for grand malpractice. Or they formed thick alliances with the very banks, auditing firms and corporations that are now running for cover–sued, investigated or defrocked as New Economy marvels.

    Enron Democrats are compromised by their own past behavior, which explains why the Democratic Party’s reaction to this spectacle is so muted. Much as in the S&L scandals of the late 1980s, an unspoken truce may emerge between the two parties–don’t throw mud at me or I’ll throw some back–since so many leading Democrats are implicated along with the Republicans. The hallmark of “Enron issues” is the ease with which Democrats desert the interests of their party’s core constituencies to serve the political needs of business and banking. Some doubtless do so as a matter of conviction; some doubtless are convinced by the money.

    During the 2000 election, other New Dems organized a direct assault on SEC chairman Arthur Levitt, who was challenging the big five auditing firms on their conflicted interests–consulting with companies on business strategy, then auditing the books with supposed independence. Dozens of politicians piled on Democrats Torricelli, Schumer and Bayh in the Senate; and Jim Moran, Cal Dooley, Ellen Tauscher and other New Dem regulars in the House. The New Democrat Network harvested more than $1 million that year for deserving politicians. Some have now recanted. “We were wrong, you were right,” Torricelli told Levitt, though he neglected to mention the money. The luster of Silicon Valley fundraising has not been dimmed by the scandals and bankruptcies. The “economic stimulus” bill passed in March was described as a Democratic victory because it includes a minor dollop for the unemployed. But most of the $43 billion went to business–including a gorgeous tax bonus sought by the needy entrepreneurs of Silicon Valley.

    http://www.thenation.com/doc/20020408/greider

  54. 1769

    Dan \"Whats the frequency\" Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 7:58 pm

    51

    Here here LT. We violated those terrorists civil rights when we listen to their phone conversations. We should do the right thing and let them out and for good measure kill a thousand New Yorkers to show we are compassionate. We can not let this stand!! We need to say to Bush if you are illegally wire tapping terrorist that “this dog aint gonna hunt”. You have got gravitas LT. Courage LT, courage.

  55. 1770

    REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX] spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 7:58 pm

    CINCINNATI-A malfunction on an amusement park ride Sunday sent at least 20 people to hospitals, most with minor chest and neck injuries, a sheriff’s office dispatcher said. The accident happened on the Son of Beast roller coaster at Paramount’s Kings Island just northeast of Cincinnati. [……………………………………………………Silverstein, Stein, Goldstein, and Rosenstein, ESQs, are ready to sue!! hehe, JCH Kennedy]

  56. 1771

    REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX] spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 8:00 pm

    51, Left Turn….Didn’t GWB just save a shit load of NJ and NYC Democrats from terrorists in the Holland Tunnel?

  57. 1772

    pbj spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 8:01 pm

    Enron Shifts Cash To Democrats
    Dan Ackman, Forbes.com, 12.27.01, 9:50 AM ET

    EW YORK – In the weeks before filing bankruptcy, Enron continued its usual practice of giving massive contributions to political parties–but with a twist. Historically one of the largest contributors to Republican Party coffers, Enron contributed $100,000 to Democrats, according to an Associated Press report.

    Enron (nyse: ENE – news – people) gave the money to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, an organization that aids Senate Democratic candidates. But Robert Bennett, a Washington attorney representing Enron, said the contributions were business as usual, and were not intended to influence impending congressional investigations into the company’s dramatic collapse.

    http://www.forbes.com/2001/12/27/1127topnews.html

  58. 1773

    pbj spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 8:03 pm

    Still in the Closet — Democrats Getting Layed

    “Outing” Democrats is such child’s play. Surrounded by shards of the smashed cookie jar, Moore-ish-faced Democrats just keep pointing fingers…as they just keep chewing. It’s like Teddy Kennedy supporting the Anti Saloon League. But, since John Kerry believes that “The value of truth is one of the most central values in America”, let’s serve up some truth.

    In a never ending Democratic mantra, Kerry (yet again) blasted the President for failing to aggressively pursue Kenneth Lay. As we all know from such unbiased media sources as the AP, “Lay clearly favored the GOP. He and his wife, Linda, donated $882,580 to federal candidates from 1989-2001…All but $86,470 went to Republicans.” But, the “truth” that average folk recognize and none of the power players will admit is…that when it comes to politics and money, it’s just one big ménage à trios.

    And…FYI, all of the truthful facts you are about to be bored with come from http://www.tray.com. Or, as the New York Times calls it, “The Granddaddy of all independent campaign finance Web sites and perhaps the most comprehensive….” Their information is culled from the disclosure records of the Federal Election Commission (FEC). If you don’t believe these numbers, just get a bottle of vodka and wait for the next passing of the Hale-Bopp Comet.

    While it is true that Kenneth Lay made a ton of political donations to the Republican Party…his cheating heart was also shared by the Democrats. During the 2000 election cycle, Lay donated $6000 to Democratic candidates. Included among these Dems is liberal Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee and Massachusetts Congressman Ed Markey (described on his Congressional website as “…the third most senior Democrat on the Full Energy Committee”).

    As reported in CongressDaily by Brody Mullins, in 1993 Kenneth Lay recruited then city council member Sheila Jackson Lee to challenge incumbent Craig Washington in a Democratic primary where, “Enron and its employees pumped $24,000 into Jackson Lee’s campaign and helped raise nearly $600,000 –three times as much as Washington raised for his previous reelection.” Sheila Jackson Lee became the next Democratic Representative from Texas and benefited from generous Lay donations ever since. Simultaneously, the Enron PAC was donating to Craig Washington and to (with ruffles and flourishes)…Eddie Bernice Johnson! No wonder Johnson thinks we need the U.N. to monitor our elections.

    One of Ken Lay’s favorite causes was the Enron Corp Political Action Committee. Mr. Lay just couldn’t stop writing checks to his company’s PAC. And this is a tale of two cities!

    While Lay was personally donating the majority of his campaign dollars to Republican causes, the Enron PAC was picking up the slack on the other side of the aisle. In 1992, Enron donated $1000 to incumbent senator Tom Daschle and zero to any Republican challenger. Enron donated $1000 and $2000 respectively in 1994 and 2000 to West Virginia’s Robert Byrd and zero to any Republican challenger. And, in 2000, Enron donated $1000 to Teddy Kennedy and zero to any Republican challenger.

    On a larger scale, the Enron PAC’s “Contributions to Party Committees” tell an even more interesting tale. In the 1992 election cycle, the Enron PAC donated 58% of its total to Democratic Party Committees. In the 1996 election cycle, the Enron PAC donated 60% of its total to Democratic Party Committees. In the 2000 election cycle (Gore v. Bush), the Enron PAC donated 56% of its total to Democratic Party Committees. Even a liberal from the Associated Press can figure out that the majority of Enron PAC “Contributions to Party Committees” went to the Democrats…who gladly accepted the money.

    This entire issue over Ken Lay, Enron and political donations is like the prep school finger pointing about self-gratification. Nobody does it, yet…everybody has dirty magazines under their beds.

    Our campaign finance laws are as cleverly designed and as confusing as the Byzantine Catacombs. And don’t look to campaign finance reform laws for any comfort. They just take the dollars out of one viaduct and let them flow through another. Take “soft money” out of the equation and add political 527’s to the mix. The scam gets more confusing to the average citizen while the total dollars used to buy elections (and elected officials) keeps growing. As a Democratic senator once remarked to me, “It’s just another way to F___ the dog!”

    On a Thursday, John Kerry says that the crew at his $25,000 per person record $7.5 million fundraiser is “the heart and soul of our country”. By Saturday, Kerry is vowing to restore “Truth” to Presidency. It kind of makes you wonder what the “truth” really is when it comes to Ken Lay, Enron and political donations.

    The only “truth” the facts tell is that Lay, Enron, Democrats and Republicans willingly enjoyed one hell of a money orgy…while the party lasted. And don’t get hopeful. Just because the Enron mistress now has political herpes doesn’t mean that the politicians are practicing abstinence. They are just sleeping between different sheets.

  59. 1774

    pbj spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 8:05 pm

    The Democrats duck their boomerang. Congressional Democrats like to cry “corruption” and call for more regulation of political contributions that go mostly to Republicans. We aren’t likely to hear much about Enron’s contributions. After all, the Democrats got almost $1 million of the soft money that Enron gave to federal officials. Do congressional Democrats believe Enron’s money corrupted their judgment on policy? Judging by their spirited attacks, the Democrats are hardly going easy on Enron and its accountants. If a million in contributions didn’t corrupt Democrats, how can they argue, now and in the future, that campaign contributions corrupt the Republicans? With luck, congressional Democrats may avoid the easy demagoguery of “Big Money” attacks and work instead on a serious investigation of Enron’s demise

    http://www.cato.org/dailys/02-01-02.html

  60. 1775

    REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX] spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 8:08 pm

    I not surprised today’s dumb ass libs want to give away secret programs an dinformation to the North Koreans and other commie lib countries and terrorists. [See Loral Corp Clinton suck up Bernie Swaartz] The NY/LA Times Democrat editors would give away the positions of our nuclear SSBNs and SSns if they could? Why? Because “progressive” Democrats are traitors.

  61. 1776

    pbj spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 8:11 pm

    “How can this be? I thought Goerge W Bush was suppressing dissent and free speech all over the country.” Commentby pbj— 7/9/06@ 1:19 pm

    See Goldy’s post on his serving being down for 12 hours. Rabbit

    Man, if 12 hours is the best the Gestapo can do, they need to be fired.

    Seriously. Perhaps it was Mr Goldstien’s lack of technical knowlege that caused his server to go down. Perhaps he didn’t pay the electric bill?

    Nevertheless, I am not aware of any outages of his radio program. Are you?

  62. 1777

    Tyrone Biggers spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 8:27 pm

    You are all a bunch of pathetic whiners. Got more to say? Try it to me personally: 206-941-9904

  63. 1778

    Dan -Whats the frequency-Kennedy spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 8:54 pm

    (Dialing 206-941-9904) Yeah Mr. Biggers…. FUCK YOU!!!

  64. 1779

    Michael spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 9:05 pm

    Is Gloria Totten a real executive or a middle-manager claiming to be one?

  65. 1780

    Harry Tuttle spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 9:09 pm

  66. 1781

    Harry Tuttle spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 9:10 pm

    [yawn]

  67. 1782

    Harry Tuttle spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 9:10 pm

    <>

  68. 1783

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 9:20 pm

    the kids are thirsty

  69. 1784

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 9:26 pm

    caring for your Harry Turtle

  70. 1785

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 9:28 pm

    The Roger solution

  71. 1786

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 9:30 pm

    A rabbit can dream…

  72. 1787

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 9:33 pm

    global warming!

  73. 1788

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 9:34 pm

    NoleftbrainMissinghisLeftnutandeasilyammused

  74. 1789

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 9:35 pm

    NoLeftbrainMissinghisLeftnutandeasilyamused

  75. 1790

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 9:37 pm

    1791

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 9:37 pm

    Darcy campaigns

  76. 1792

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 9:39 pm

    NoLeftbrainMissinghisLeftnutandeasilyamused 2

  77. 1793

    Harry Tuttle aka voter advocate spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 9:58 pm

    Nothing going on here. Time for bed.

  78. 1794

    Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 9:58 pm

    The pathetic, immature, incoherent and unintelligible rightwingnut trolls are reduced to littering up this liberal blog with their trash. . . .Not a constructive thought in their heads, no courage to call in to the Real World of talk radio. . .very sad. No wonder Goldy has a radio show. And why more progressives will have more shows. The tired, hypocritical, manipulative trash talking rightwing propagandists have seen the end of their day. A little truth, alittle candor, a little honest brokerage of ideas goes a long way in today’s political climate.

  79. 1795

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 10:05 pm

    51

    “No doubt whatsoever he’ll go down as the worst president ever!” Commentby LeftTurn— 7/9/06@ 7:32 pm

    He’ll be remembered as the Hillbilly President.

  80. 1796

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 10:06 pm

    Hop into the realm of healing with flower essences, aromatherapy, herbs and native plants lovingly grown in partnership with Nature at Tree Frog Farm!

  81. 1797

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 10:08 pm

    pbj @60 et al.

    Tell me again which political party gave Ken Lay a blank check to write the nation’s energy policy?

  82. 1798

    Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 10:08 pm

    Proudass, my tree frogs have nothing to do with herbal essences. . .

  83. 1799

    americafirst spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 10:08 pm

    Profiles in lib courage- Wilson quits and endorses corporate Dem Cantwell(D-Mexico, votes for NAFTA AND CAFTA). When the going gets tough the libs cut and run.

  84. 1800

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 10:09 pm

    Farmer, you appear to be a bit out of sorts…

    Flower essences are helpful whenever you feel physically, emotionally, mentally, or spiritually out of balance.

  85. 1801

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 10:10 pm

    71

    Got that right! Why do you humans make everything so hard?

  86. 1802

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 10:10 pm

    pbj and proudass are suffering from motor mouth tonight

  87. 1803

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 10:11 pm

    Really frog farmer, you could get a lot of H’ASS customers (you know, the unbalanced nutburgers and loonies) with this stuff…

    Flower essences help us to lovingly experience these imbalances as illusions of self and begin to transform them into patterns of thinking, feeling and behavior that are in harmony with our soul’s evolution. They lovingly support us during our spiritual journey to Source, helping us see the events of our lives as learning opportunities along the way.

  88. 1804

    Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 10:13 pm

    Curiously enough I’ve been posting under this name for years before the bloke on the island ever appeared.

  89. 1805

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 10:14 pm

    good grief…

    If for any reason, you sense that the vibrational quality of an essence has been compromised, ask to speak with the Deva of Flower Essences and ask that your essence be restored to full potency. There is no complicated procedure. Just ask and it is done.

    what the hell does that even mean????

  90. 1806

    LeftTurn spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 10:15 pm

    PAT ROBERTSON SENT TO NORTH KOREA FOR MADMAN-TO-MADMAN TALKS

    Televangelist Selected From Shortlist of Bananaheads

    The Reverend Pat Robertson left today for North Korea to engage in what
    the State Department called a series of high-level “madman-to-madman”
    talks with North Korean president Kim Jong-Il.

    The United States, frustrated that six-party nuclear talks with North
    Korea did not prevent President Kim from firing test missiles last week,
    are cautiously optimistic that one-on-one talks between the two lunatics
    will help break the logjam.

    “We needed to find someone who speaks Kim Jong-Il’s language,” Secretary
    of State Condoleezza Rice told reporters today. “And by that I do not
    mean Korean — I mean crazy-talk.”

    After the United States determined that madman-to-madman talks were
    their best chance for success, the State Department compiled a shortlist
    of bananaheads, including the Rev. Robertson, former presidential
    candidate Ralph Nader, and former Partridge Family drummer Danny
    Bonaduce.

    “That was a very, very competitive field, but we are confident that in
    Pat Robertson we have found a whackjob on the same level as Kim
    Jong-Il,” Dr. Rice said.

    Boarding a military aircraft for North Korea, the televangelist said
    that he had many gifts to bring the North Korean president, including a
    lifetime supply of Pat Robertson’s Age-Defying Shake(TM).

    The Rev. Robertson said that his initial goal would be to find “common
    ground” with the mercurial Kim: “I’m going to start by talking about the
    things that all reasonable people agree on, such as, God creates
    hurricanes because he’s angry about gay marriage.”

  91. 1807

    Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 10:16 pm

    I dunno, you have to ask the poor essential farmer.

  92. 1808

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 10:17 pm

    uh huh

  93. 1809

    Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 10:19 pm

    That poor bastard will be quite surprised if you try to engage him in a political discourse. My field was closer to amphibia than botanica.

  94. 1810

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 10:20 pm

    OMG… you’re MarineVet, the goldfish medic from the PI!

  95. 1811

    Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 10:22 pm

    What are you gibbering about now?

  96. 1812

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 10:22 pm

    well, anyway, I hope you sell loads of aroma-salts, that your Source is content and your Deva of Flower Essences is happy…or whatever it is that Deva of Flower Essences experience.

  97. 1813

    For the Clueless spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 10:24 pm

    89 – right-wing, diarrhea mouth rather.

  98. 1814

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 10:25 pm

    Ok, I admit it’s a pretty impressive list of Native plants… and fairly reasonably priced.

  99. 1815

    LeftTurn spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 10:25 pm

    The Bush cabal had Lay killed because he made a secret deal to stay out of prison if he detailed all the dealings that Enron had with Bushco. The mounds of evidence I have already presented here shows that Bush and Lay were a team. Bush couldn’t afford the possibility that Lay would tell on him. So he arranged a “heart attack” and that was that. Look for something similar to happen to Scooter Libby.

  100. 1816

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 10:30 pm

    NoLeftbrainMissinghisLeftnutandeasilyamused was the model for “This is your brain on drugs”

  101. 1817

    Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 10:31 pm

    I suppose I should congratulate ProudAss for finally learning how to use Google. . .or rather not how to use it. You’ll notice I only show up in the third and fourth listings. . .really surprising considering I’ve been on internet for a long time. The poor fellow on Whidbey sort of expropriated my domain name.

  102. 1818

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 10:32 pm

    huh?

  103. 1819

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 10:32 pm

    How tough can it be…

  104. 1820

    Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 10:35 pm

    Apparently too tough for you!

  105. 1821

    skagit spews:

    Sunday, 7/9/06 at 10:55 pm

    Man, nothing new on this blog ever! Don’t you guys get tired of saying the same things over and over and over . . .

  106. 1822

    pbj spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 12:26 am

    “The pathetic, immature, incoherent and unintelligible rightwingnut trolls are reduced to littering up this liberal blog with their trash. . . .Not a constructive thought in their heads, no courage to call in to the Real World of talk radio. . .very sad. No wonder Goldy has a radio show. And why more progressives will have more shows. The tired, hypocritical, manipulative trash talking rightwing propagandists have seen the end of their day. A little truth, alittle candor, a little honest brokerage of ideas goes a long way in today’s political climate.” TreeFrog Farmer

    Ha ha! You better stick to tree frog farming, because you really don’t know much about radio. How is “Err” America doing these days? How many more stations have they lost?

    Man those mus tbe some powerful drugs you are doing to so distort reality like that.

  107. 1823

    pbj spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 12:33 am

    RR@84,

    pbj @60 et al.

    Tell me again which political party gave Ken Lay a blank check to write the nation’s energy policy? – Roger Rabbit

    Must have been Clinton. He was lobbying India to build an Enron boondoggle electric plant.

    “Despite how the Clinton administration promoted Enron’s since-shut down electric power plant project in India, a plant which went online in 1999, in a 13-minute story on Sunday night’s 60 Minutes, CBS’s Bob Simon didn’t mention the name “Clinton” or the term “Clinton administration.” But, Simon linked the Bush administration to nefarious efforts in 2001 to get India to pay Enron what it owed the company.

    Simon’s story described the non-competitive Enron bid of $60 billion over 20 years for the power plant as a bad deal for India and a good one for Enron since it would be fueled by liquified natural gas bought from an Enron subsidiary and promised that India would pay Enron every year even if they didn’t need the electricity. Simon derisively noted, “Deregulation: That was Enron’s favorite word.”

    Simon recounted how in the mid-1990s a local politician, who promised to end construction of the plant, won election after claiming officials who approved the plant, which would produce more electricity than needed at a high price, were bribed. Simon then got to a Clinton administration action, but he didn’t mention Clinton: “The American Ambassador, Frank Wisner, pitched in. His role, as he saw it-”
    Wisner [spelling a guess]: “Was to try to convince the central government to back a resumption of the project…”

    Simon went on to note that in 1997, after India was convinced to re-start the building of the plant, Wisner took job with an Enron subsidiary.

    In 1999 the plant finally went on line, Simon reported, and charged India four times the going rate for its power. In 2001, India stopped paying for the power it didn’t really need anyway, and the plant was shut down.

    Simon then implied a Clinton role, but again failed to raise Clinton’s name as he specifically cited the role of Vice President Cheney: “[Ken] Lay had always found solid support from Washington and it was no different now. The Bush administration set up an Enron task force. Objective: Make those Indians pay their bill. Vice President Cheney did his part last June, as recorded in this task force e-mail. ‘Good news,’ it reads, ‘the Veep mentioned Enron in his meeting with Sonia Gandhi,’ the Indian opposition leader. But then, a few months later, Enron lay bankrupt and disgraced….”

    Despite Enron’s collapse and September 11, Simon was appalled that just two months ago, U.S. Ambassador to India Robert Blackwell had the gall to lecture India about how the “sanctity of contract here may be in doubt” due to India not making payments to Enron.

    The Clinton administration’s role in promoting Enron’s India power plant is hardly unknown. Back on the January 18 Special Report with Brit Hume, FNC’s Wendell Goler disclosed:
    “Even though Enron head Ken Lay has been Mr. Bush’s most generous financial supporter, and nearly three dozen administration officials have held Enron stock, the Clinton administration appears to have provided a bigger bang for the much smaller bucks Enron executives have contributed to Democrats. The late Commerce Secretary Ron Brown and his successors, Mickey Cantor and William Daley, all reportedly hosted Enron executives on trade junkets that led to projects in half a dozen countries, including the Indian power plant, and several billion dollars in government loans and risk insurance.”

    On February 25, Lisa Myers reported on the NBC Nightly News: “Documents obtained by NBC News show the Clinton administration billed three Enron projects in India and Turkey as success stories, personally pushed by the late Commerce Secretary Ron Brown. About that time, Enron made its first $100,000 contribution to the Democrats.”

  108. 1824

    pbj spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 12:35 am

    The Bush cabal had Lay killed because he made a secret deal to stay out of prison if he detailed all the dealings that Enron had with Bushco. The mounds of evidence I have already presented here shows that Bush and Lay were a team. Bush couldn’t afford the possibility that Lay would tell on him. So he arranged a “heart attack” and that was that. Look for something similar to happen to Scooter Libby. – LeftTurn

    You are certifiably insane. Do you know that?

    What’s the frequency Kenneth?

  109. 1825

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 12:50 am

    WHEN THE FOX GUARDS THE HENHOUSE

    State medical boards (including ours) are notoriously lenient. Maybe that’s because the states let doctors run these boards. And maybe they go easy on their fellow doctors because they’re thinking, “There, but for the grace of God, I might go someday.”

    Case in point: An Arkansas doctor killed 10 patients by overprescribing narcotics. So what did they do? The board lifted his license. No, not his medical license, just his license to prescribe narcotics. He’s still a practicing doctor.

    http://articles.news.aol.com/n.....4?cid=2194

  110. 1826

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 12:56 am

    81

    “Very Very nice information here… Thanks” Commentby wigmaere— 7/9/06@ 10:00 pm

    You must be new on this blog. Allow me to explain the posting rules.

    1. There is no censorship on this blog.
    2. Anybody can post here.
    3. This is a liberal blog.
    4. Our job as liberals is to kick the living crap out of the unpatriotic, America-hating, retarded neo-Nazi wingnut trollfucks who are stupid enough to post here.
    5. Make sure you kick them in the balls, because they have a very limited vocabulary, and that’s the only phraseology they understand.
    6. Remember, there are no rules, and hitting trollfucks below the belt is not only allowed but encouraged! Feel free, because those bastards will do it to you, if they get a chance.

  111. 1827

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 1:06 am

    86

    “When the going gets tough the libs cut and run.” Commentby americafirst— 7/9/06@ 10:08 pm

    Is that so? Several months ago a trollfuck calling himself “prr” challenged me to show up at Drinking Liberally. He promised, “I’ll be there!” Well guess what, the little weasel was a no-show! buhk-cluck-cluck buhk-cluck-cluk

    For picture of prr, click here: http://photos.french-property......thecat=525

  112. 1828

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 1:10 am

    110

    “Must have been Clinton.” Commentby pbj— 7/10/06@ 12:33 am

    Now isn’t that just like a wingnut? Blame it on Clinton. Hey, reality sucks.

  113. 1829

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 1:14 am

    Speaking of cut-and-run wingnuts, the following chickenhawks are missing in action:

    John MacDonald
    Mr. Cynical (did Mrs. C finally kill him?)
    prr
    Angry Voter (a.k.a. Kevin Carns)
    klake
    Cheesy Chuckie
    man there’s lots more but I can’t remember them all

    What a bunch of chickenshits — buhk-cluck-cluk, buhk-cluck-cluk

  114. 1830

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 1:15 am

    Hey Kids! It’s time to play “The Chickenhawk Song” again!!!

    http://www.roysongs.com/sounds/

  115. 1831

    Puddybud Michael Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 5:51 am

    Yesterday while you ASSes were glued to your PCs writing here, we went to a friends house and watched World Cup. We saw Slick Willie. The announcer said he was there with Chelsea. How much you want to be he ditched his daughter to slick his willie on some German meat?

    PBJ=Sock Puppet,liar,all afround shill and Rightwingnut Troll. Mod down 5.

    Commentby Tree Frog Farmer— 7/9/06@ 1:39 pm

    Bhopal is true. The truth shall set you free.

  116. 1832

    Puddybud Michael Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 5:55 am

    #13 Mummified Brain of Harry Tuttle: I again did your URL homework, no URL SMACKDOWN. Here are the pertinent NY Times articles on Enron, and India from your favorite mouthpiece lefties. Signup and you can read all about Enron and India and how GE and Bechtel took over the company after Enron collapsed.

    http://topics.nytimes.com/top/.....atch=exact

    Oh and for you URL link lovers I’m lazy!

  117. 1833

    Puddybud Michael Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 5:59 am

    India: Clinton’s Corporate Entourage

    by Amit Srivastava, Special to CorpWatch
    March 20th, 2000

    SAN FRANCISCO — Violence in Kashmir and nuclear proliferation are dominating the mainstream headlines on President Clinton’s trip to South Asia. And while security issues are clearly on the agenda in Clinton’s meetings with Indian Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee, the press is ignoring an equally significant part of the trip: trade. Traveling along with the Clinton family and US officials is a large corporate contingent. Behind the scenes of the first official state visit to India by a US president in 22 years, more than 50 US corporate executives are meeting with Indian officials and business representatives. The goal of these CEO’s and other executives is to gain more access to Indian markets.

    The Washington, D.C. based US-India Business Council (USIBC) is hosting many of the events for the corporate delegates in India. The USIBC’s Board of Directors includes Frank Wisner, former Ambassador to India, currently representing the American International Group Inc. (AIG), one of the largest insurance companies in the US. Also on the Council’s board is Joseph W. Sutton of Enron, a Houston-based natural gas giant whose power projects in India have come under attack from environmental and community groups. Others on the board include Peter Howell of banking conglomerate Citigroup, Dinesh Keskar of Boeing India, Boyd Montgomery of UNOCAL and Charles Saris of Pfizer Pharmaceuticals, to name a few.

    The large corporate delegation accompanying Clinton includes former ambassador to India Frank Wisner, Lou Gestner, IBM’s Chairman, Arun Netraveli, President of Bell Laboratories/Lucent Technologies, John Smith, CEO of General Motors, Kenneth Lay, Chairman and CEO of Enron and General Electric’s CEO, John Welch.

    Many US corporations have increasingly come under fire from Indian activists, whose concerns range from human rights to the environment. Last year, Enron, the single largest foreign investor in India, was implicated in human rights violations in India by a Human Rights Watch report.

    Mummified, that’s 1999. Clinton Era!

    http://corpwatch.live.radicald.....php?id=232

    Fuck YOU Mummified Brain Harry Tuttle. URL SMACKDOWNED AGAIN!!!

  118. 1834

    Republican National Committee spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 6:46 am

    Roger @ 116:

    Some of our agit-prop specialists are on vacation. The personas you see above are filling in during their absence. Truth be told, Proud and Puddybud are second-tier commenters, but maintaining a presence is important.

  119. 1835

    Anonymous spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 6:51 am

    Speaking of cut-and-run wing nuts, the following chicken hawks are missing in action:

    John MacDonald
    Mr. Cynical (did Mrs. C finally kill him?)
    prr
    Angry Voter (a.k.a. Kevin Carns)
    klake
    Cheesy Chuckie
    man there’s lots more but I can’t remember them all

    What a bunch of chickenshits – buhk-cluck-cluk, buhk-cluck-cluk

    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 7/10/06@ 1:14 am

    Good morning Roger I miss you to, but us folks are out defending this country lacks time to blog. I see you still know how to scratch and cluck likes a true chicken. The question for you is your shit yellow upon discharge or are you constipated? We all know the Democrat Party is run by a bunch of Socialist Democrats and it be long time before they get their act together.

  120. 1836

    LeftTurn spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 6:56 am

    You see here’s the deal. To be a true believer in the republican lie, you have to be mentally ill. It’s obvious that the list RR posted represents only one delusional wingnut who posts under a variety of names based on multiple personality disorders. But hey, the fewer right wing troll fucks the better.

  121. 1837

    Anonymous spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 7:16 am

    You see here’s the deal. To be a true believer in the republican lie, you have to be mentally ill. It’s obvious that the list RR posted represents only one delusional wingnut who posts under a variety of names based on multiple personality disorders. But hey, the fewer right wing troll fucks the better.

    Commentby LeftTurn— 7/10/06@ 6:56 am

    LeftTurn I see you still like talking to anyone but yourself. That is why you are always right and you do not have to listen.
    Nice dreaqm world you live end lets hope nobody shoots you for just the fun of it.

  122. 1838

    For the Clueless spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 7:57 am

    shorter wingnuts: when in doubt blame it on Bill Clinton.

  123. 1839

    LeftTurn spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 8:25 am

    It always amazes me how the inbred rightie trolls seem to think that Bush being a criminal is something that’s okay because well, Bill Clinton did this or that.

    Of course nearly 100% of the time, the righties are just doing their (“Hey I am batshit crazy!”) routine. But when they appear to be serious it makes me wonder. Do they teach their kids that it’s okay to lie, cheat, steal, murder, etc, because someone else did it? No wonder the country is all fucked up!

  124. 1840

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 9:05 am

    Speaking of cut-and-run wingnuts, the following chickenhawks are missing in action:

    John MacDonald
    Mr. Cynical (did Mrs. C finally kill him?)
    prr
    Angry Voter (a.k.a. Kevin Carns)
    klake
    Cheesy Chuckie
    man there’s lots more but I can’t remember them all

    What a bunch of chickenshits – buhk-cluck-cluk, buhk-cluck-cluk -Commentby Roger Rabbit— 7/10/06@ 1:14 am

    John McDonald, who claims to be a conservative {snicker}, is busy campaiging for little darcy, the sacrificial donkette and Joan Crawford of mommies over at http://www.soundpolitics.com/ under the guise that she ‘hates Bush and is not Dave’

  125. 1841

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 9:07 am

    You know, I’m a little confused by you nutburgers… which exactly is Bush… the singular most manipulative and evil man in the history of politics or a rival to Cindy Sheehan for dumb as a goat award?

  126. 1842

    Just The Facts spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 9:22 am

    I’m a little confused … which exactly is Bush… ?

    Commentby howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS— 7/10/06@ 9:07 am

    WORST.PRESIDENT.EVER

  127. 1843

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 9:24 am

    ooohhh look how good you are at reguritating the talking points! good dog!

  128. 1844

    Just The Facts spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 9:28 am

    I’m a little confused … which exactly is Bush… ?

    Commentby howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS— 7/10/06@ 9:07 am

    WORST.PRESIDENT.EVER

  129. 1845

    Just The Facts spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 9:38 am

    I’m a little confused … which exactly is Bush… ?

    Commentby howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS— 7/10/06@ 9:07 am

    WORST.PRESIDENT.EVER

  130. 1846

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 9:44 am

    Goldstein vs Goldstein!

    ”{Jeff}… Goldstein is a frickin’ genius. End of frickin’ story. You got a problem with that, you take it someplace else, sunshine”—Chris Johnson, Midwest Conservative Journal

    Oh those tolerant, kind, loving and gentle liberals…

    Crossing a Line

    “I enjoy writing things that inflame, mock and infuriate the right,” Deborah Frisch said in an e-mail interview Sunday in response to a question about her online activities. By any measure, she’s achieving her goals — and she’s also out of a job.

    Frisch posted a comment last week on Protein Wisdom, a Web site known for its no holding back conservative commentary, frequently with considerable mocking of liberal academics and ideas. Frisch, an adjunct lecturer at the University of Arizona until this weekend, said in the posting that she would not be sad if the 2-year old child of the site’s founder, Jeff Goldstein, was “Jon Benet Ramseyed,” and she reportedly posted other questions of the sort a Ramsey-inspired attacker might ask. (Goldstein lives in Colorado, where Ramsey was killed.)

    Although Frisch apologized for the remark, which she called “nasty,” numerous conservative Web sites over the weekend traded stories about Frisch, saying that she had physically threatened Goldstein and his child (she denies this and says that however inappropriate her comments were, they weren’t threatening); that Frisch is Churchillian, as in Ward, not Winston (she agrees on some counts and has defended the notorious “little Eichmanns” remark); and that Frisch organized an online attack on Protein Wisdom (she denies this). They called on Arizona administrators to fire her (e-mail addresses were provided).

  131. 1847

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 9:50 am

    yoooohooo proud H’ASSes….where are you???

    Are you sending cash and checks to the newly umemployed Professor Frisch?? funding her ‘let’s kill a 2yr old’ campaign??

  132. 1848

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 9:52 am

    122

    “us folks are out defending this country lacks time to blog.”
    Commentby Anonymous— 7/10/06@ 6:51 am

    Who’s defending the country? Certainly not you. Hey, I’ll let you in on a little secret — although Republicans repeat their spin, lies, and propaganda so much they believe their own crap, everybody else sees through you guys. The whole country knows who the combat veterans are — and who savages them. The whole country knows Rumsfeld tried to eliminate combat pay for the troops in Iraq. The whole country knows the Bush administration was too cheap to pay for body armor and Humvee armor. The whole country knows Cher is out fundraising to buy safer helmets for our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan — because the Bush/Rumsfeld Pentagon won’t order them. The whole country knows Bush used his congressman dad’s pull to get a National Guard slot to avoid Vietnam, then went AWOL from the Guard. The whole country knows Dick Cheney got five deferments and never served. The whole country knows Congress is chock-a-block full of Republican representatives and senators who avoided military service during Vietnam and never served.

    Don’t talk to me about yellow, I served with a front-line combat unit in Vietnam, so fuck you, chickenhawk. Buhk-cluck-cluck buhk-cluck-cluck

  133. 1849

    LeftTurn spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 9:52 am

    So when that AIDS-infested cunt calls for the murder of a US Supreme Court Justice that’s not crossing the line?

  134. 1850

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 9:53 am

    “Anonymous” and other rightwing posters sound like a little boy standing on a street corner shouting, “I am Napolean! I am Napolean! I am Napolean!” Everyone thinks he’s nuts, and nobody is listening.

  135. 1851

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 9:59 am

    Everyone thinks he’s nuts, and nobody is listening. -Commentby Roger Rabbit— 7/10/06@ 9:53 am

    Howard Screamer
    Botox Nancy
    Flipper Kerry
    Harpy Reid
    Hillary, the one woman communist government and famou female cuckhold.

  136. 1852

    Harry Tuttle aka voter advocate spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 9:59 am

    120.

    I know this concept is difficult for you to comprehend, but none of the allegations against corperations that participated in a trade mission to India, nor even Enron’s contribution of $100,000 to the DNC offsets the cozy relationship to Enron that the Bush administration had at the time the degree of Enron’s corrupt and corrupting influences were being revealed.ifically:

    Dick Cheney met six times with Enron executives while writing up an energy policy which benefited Enron

    Cheney met with Ken Lay during the California energy crisis, after which Cheney said the Bush administration would not support price caps on energy in California, costing California rate payers and enriching Enron.

    That said, if you decide to call for publically funded campaigns to remove some of the corrosive affects of big money contributors in national politics. You’ll receive nothing but praise from me.

    In addition, I think the worst blind spot Bill Clinton had and has is his pollyannaish belief in free trade and world markets to solve humanity’s problems. If any of you righties are prepared to rollback NAFTA and CAFTA, and find a way to U.S. based local production of goods that will reduce the overall consumption of fossil fuels, you wiil be praised by me.

    I won’t hold my breath.

    To recap: Enron is the first of many scandals that has Bush and Cheney’s fingerprints all over them. Attempting to blame Clinton for it and the others is just the same old right wing noise machine tactic that’s been going on since 1992.

  137. 1853

    Harry Tuttle aka voter advocate spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 10:01 am

    Specifically befor Dick Cheney got eaten up in the formatting.

  138. 1854

    Another TJ spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 10:03 am

    ”{Jeff}… Goldstein is a frickin’ genius. End of frickin’ story. You got a problem with that, you take it someplace else, sunshine”—Chris Johnson, Midwest Conservative Journal

    He he.

    http://sadlyno.com/archives/002902.html

  139. 1855

    Just The Facts spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 10:12 am

    I’m a little confused … which exactly is Bush… ?

    Commentby howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS— 7/10/06@ 9:07 am

    WORST.PRESIDENT.EVER

  140. 1856

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 10:13 am

    Oh yes, ofcourse another tj… that make it all ok to threaten and wish murder on his 2 yr old child.

    liberals are truly despicable bastards.

  141. 1857

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 10:14 am

    “Do it for the children”

    Murder em in the womb
    Murder em in the cradle
    Murder em when they’re 2

    “Do it for the children”

  142. 1858

    Just The Facts spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 10:16 am

    I’m a little confused … which exactly is Bush… ?

    Commentby howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS— 7/10/06@ 9:07 am

    WORST.PRESIDENT.EVER

  143. 1859

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 10:18 am

    DEFECTIONS TO DEMOCRATS WEAKEN GOP GRIP ON HEARTLAND

    In 2004, Thomas Frank wrote an enthralling book called “What’s the Matter With Kansas?” that attempted to analyze the rightwing firestorm sweeping across America’s heartland.

    (Readers of the book quickly realized that Kansas is a not a beet-red Republican state, but is politically complicated, and has always been so; and we are reminded that Kansas was at the epicenter of the violent turmoil leading up to the outbreak of the Civil War.)

    If you’re interested in buying this book, go here: http://www.amazon.com/gp/produ.....56?ie=UTF8

    It’s true that Kansas was firmly in the “red” column (anybody else notice the irony of calling Republican states “red states”) in the 2000 and 2004 elections. But in Kansas, as in the military, there are growing signs that the GOP’s unrelenting incompetence, corruption, and bullshit are finally driving rational people away from the party. This is most immediately manifesting itself by moderate Republicans switching parties, which is likely to become a growing trend across the country, as a result of more cerebral Republicans realizing (a) their party has been hijacked by totalitarian-minded radicals, and (b) for self-preservation, as moderate Republican politicians realize their party is heading for electoral disasters of Biblical proportions.

    “Democrats dare to dream of recapturing the Bush heartland

    “From Kansas to South Carolina, Republican moderates are turning their backs on the neocons and defecting to the enemy

    “Paul Harris in Topeka, Kansas
    “Sunday June 25, 2006
    “The Observer

    “The squat, bunker-like building in a south Topeka suburb does not look like a place to turn American politics on its head. Nor does Mark Parkinson, a tall, affable man, look too much like a revolutionary. But here, deep in the American heartland, are the warning signs of a political earthquake.

    “The two-storey office block is Parkinson’s campaign headquarters as he runs as Democrat candidate for deputy governor. So far, so normal. Except that only a few weeks ago Parkinson was a Republican. In fact, he was Kansas Republican party chairman.

    “His defection to the Democrats sent shockwaves through a state deeply associated with the national Republican cause and the evangelical conservatives at its base. …

    “Republicans in Kansas, he says, have let down their own people. ‘They were fixated on ideological issues that really don’t matter to people’s everyday lives. What matters is improving schools and creating jobs,’ he said. ‘I got tired of the theological debate over whether Charles Darwin was right.’

    “This is music to Democratic ears and has profound potential implications for November’s mid-term elections. Kansas has been an iconic state for the Republican right, a symbol for issues such as teaching creationism in schools and fighting abortion rights. …

    “But in a swath of heartland states such as Kansas, Democrats are seeing the first signs of their party’s rebirth. Parkinson is not alone in switching sides. In Virginia, Jim Webb, a one-time Reagan official, is seeking to be a Democrat senator. In South Carolina, top Republican prosecutor Barney Giese has defected … in Kansas another top Republican, Paul Morrison, also joined the Democrats and is challenging a Republican to be the state attorney-general.

    “Democrats are hoping … the powerful conservative movement born in states such as Kansas will also die there. An upbeat mood prevails at the monthly meeting of the Shawnee County Democratic party. … ‘I know a lot of registered Republicans who no longer agree with what’s going on,’ said Charlie Snow, a real estate manager. … ‘We have always been the underdog, but recently actions of the President and the Republicans have made it a lot easier to be a Democrat in Kansas,’ Snow said.

    “One of the key reasons Kansas Democrats are in fighting mood is their governor, Kathleen Sibelius. Sibelius’s vote represents an island of Democratic blue in a sea of Republican red on the political map, and she has impressed by reaching the middle-ground voters in a startlingly successful first term. Shunning the hot-button social issues, she has focused on education, jobs and health. This has earned her approval ratings touching 68 per cent in a state that was overwhelmingly pro-Bush in 2004.

    “Sibelius has cracked the political holy grail: persuading heartland Republicans to vote Democrat. ‘Her style works here, and then bringing over Parkinson to the Democrats has been the coup of all coups,’ said Professor Bob Beatty, a political scientist at Washburn University near Topeka.

    “As the Democrats enjoy a resurgence, the Republicans are in disarray. Parkinson’s defection encouraged other moderates to abandon a party controlled by right-wing religious zealots. … ‘A number of conservatives are actually pleased that the moderates are leaving the Republican party. That really could spell trouble,’ Beatty said.

    …

    “The defections across the country have been spurred mostly by a reaction to the extremism of the right. The future, as Kansas predicts it, lies in the middle ground for the first party to stake a claim to it. ‘That is the absolute lesson. No party is going to win an election by being on the edges. The first to go to the middle ground will win,’ Gates said.”

    For complete article and copyright info, see http://observer.guardian.co.uk/world/story/0,,1805330,00.html

  144. 1860

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 10:19 am

    Did you trollfucks catch that little tidbit in my last post?

    THE KANSAS STATE GOP CHAIRMAN DEFECTED TO THE DEMOCRATS!!!

    Eat shit, neocon fuckers. God hates you. You’re all going to Hell.

  145. 1861

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 10:20 am

    Hey, in case anybody missed the last two posts, the KANSAS REPUBLICAN PARTY CHAIRMAN DEFECTED TO THE DEMOCRATS!!! :D :D :D

  146. 1862

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 10:22 am

    This bears repeating again:

    THE KANSAS GOP’S CHAIRMAN HAS DEFECTED TO THE DEMOCRATS

  147. 1863

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 10:22 am

    THE KANSAS GOP’S CHAIRMAN HAS DEFECTED TO THE DEMOCRATS

  148. 1864

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 10:22 am

    THE KANSAS GOP’S CHAIRMAN HAS DEFECTED TO THE DEMOCRATS

  149. 1865

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 10:22 am

    THE KANSAS GOP’S CHAIRMAN HAS DEFECTED TO THE DEMOCRATS

  150. 1866

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 10:23 am

    THE KANSAS GOP’S CHAIRMAN HAS DEFECTED TO THE DEMOCRATS

  151. 1867

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 10:23 am

    THE KANSAS GOP’S CHAIRMAN HAS DEFECTED TO THE DEMOCRATS

  152. 1868

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 10:23 am

    THE KANSAS GOP’S CHAIRMAN HAS DEFECTED TO THE DEMOCRATS

  153. 1869

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 10:23 am

    neener neener braaaaackkkkkk!!!

  154. 1870

    Another TJ spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 10:31 am

    ”{Jeff}… Goldstein is a frickin’ genius. End of frickin’ story. You got a problem with that, you take it someplace else, sunshine”—Chris Johnson, Midwest Conservative Journal

    He is indeed a paragon of virtue:

    http://www.firedoglake.com/200.....h-courage/

  155. 1871

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 10:54 am

    And in your warped little mind that’s reason enough to kill his daughter… that’s right another liberal that wants to ‘Do it for the children’.

    Baby killers

  156. 1872

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 10:55 am

    A liberal professor wants Goldsteins daughter DEAD… “Do it for the children”

  157. 1873

    Another TJ spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 10:58 am

    Jeez, you’re a whiny little baby. Here:

    http://tbogg.blogspot.com/2006.....ation.html

  158. 1874

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 11:03 am

    right…

    I don’t believe any of this bullshit. That pussy Goldstain is making it up, in a fit of Klonopin-induced madness.

    # posted by antiwisdom : 7:29 PM

    We don’t police our own? Wait a minute, the Online Integrity crowd keeps saying that no one has to police their own, we don’t even have to delink, all we have to do is not give them positive publicity (otherwise known as pretending the attack never happened.) I mean, that’s what they’ve done many times now in similar incidents.

    # posted by Jacques Cuze : 7:48 PM

    How did she threaten Goldstein? Did she say she’d take his cock and beat him with it?

    # posted by Otto Man : 7:50 PM

    Sigh…

    They can dish it out and larflarflarf… but, when they need to take it just a little, they’ll only be happy when they’ve truly ruined someone’s life.

    This is sad, and truly worrisome. frisch’s words were on the verge of stalkerly, and spooky, but it sounds like the University was blogswarmed by flying monkeys.

    They are going to murder someone someday soon, and BOY, won’t they larflarflarf then.

    This is getting beyond the realm of “fair politics and silly rhetoric.”

    I don’t know whjat to think about this. But, I definately don’t like any of it.

    –mf

    # posted by Tony : 10:06 PM

    Myself, I haven’t slept in two days because of this. I’m just so heartsick. Poor, poor Mrs. Dickwhipped.

    Sarcasm doesn’t translate well in pixels, does it?
    Okay I’m not going to win brownie points here, but you guys are missing the point entirely —

    this person (if you can call her that) threatened a child!!! please keep that in mind. anything Jeff has done was directed at an adult. big difference.

    and there are many on the left (which I’m now ashamed to call myself one of) that are defending her actions.

    her comments had to do with HARMING a child. A CHILD!! is that not clear to anyone here??? politics aside, she went way overboard, and should not be defended by anyone.

    yeah, make light of the matter and then sit back and wonder how you would react if it was your child these hateful words were directed at. I don’t think you would be sitting comfortably in your chair without a care in the world.

    # posted by Angie : 2:47 AM

    Were my child so verbally attacked, if I had any real concern about the child’s safety, I would have beckoned gendarmes to the fore rather than grant Ms. Frisch the pleasure of a 38,000 visitor day, which a true sicko might take as a sign of encouragement.

    Someone wishing harm on your child or insulting your mother yearns, mayhaps, for a fight, but the Yo-Mommas of the world have a rather weak record of followthrough from button-pushing to actual matricide.

    Somebody give Mr. Goldstein some smelling salts so the poor dear can rise to the challenge and swing his mighty phallus at the Googol hordes till democracy is returned to the Euphrates and the Mespotamians are back in blue jeans and a 24 hour potable water supply.

    # posted by KevinHayden : 3:27 AM
    Ashamed, huh? Fine–go join the righties. Snuggle up with the Klan. Go lick the scrotum of the guy who created the “Nurenberg Files” website. Break bread with the people sending death threats to 15-year-old Ava Lowery. Worship at the feet of Ann Coulter and Michelle Malkin.

    We sure as hell don’t need you.

    “Won’t somebody PLEASE think of the CHILDREN?!?”
    –Mrs. Lovejoy

    # posted by Happenstance : 3:33 AM

    Angie, Frisch’s comments were offensive, not threatening. Do you understand the difference? Anyway, who has excused her?

    More manufactured outrage from the right. You’d think Jeff would feel honoured by this brilliant piece from Chris Clarke;

    http://faultline.org/index.php.....hite_steed

    # posted by Rob : 3:43 AM

    A liberal professor AND HER GROUPIES wants Goldsteins daughter DEAD… “Do it for the children”

  159. 1875

    Another TJ spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 11:12 am

    http://faultline.org/index.php.....hite_steed

    Thanks for the link. It’s hilarious.

  160. 1876

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 11:27 am

    to quote my marvelous child from his blogging history…

    <1>Besides that, I’m curious. Why do you all hate the guy anyway? Name ONE THING that Bush has done that has compromised your rights as an American. Name ONE THING that he’s done that has materially altered your daily life. Name ONE Constitutional protection that you’ve lost under his Presidency. Yes, he’s a conservative – but he’s a pretty darn moderate one. If I were in
    his shoes you can be damn sure you wouldn’t even HEAR the words “National Healthcare” let alone hear plans for it. And that’s just ONE example.

    You know, it’s fine with me if you want to hate the guy out of ignorance or bigotry against Republicans. It’s fine with me if you want to hate him for sake of “sounding cool” and being on the mainstream bandwagon. I just wish that you guys would be friggin’ HONEST about it instead of buying into all the myths and rhetoric that haven’t an inkling of truth to them. I would
    literally be beside myself if one of you actually had the integrity to just admit that your hatred of Bush hasn’t one actual substantive reason. AD 12-27-03

  161. 1877

    Another TJ spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 11:37 am

    Shorter #163:

    If you would just agree that I’m right, it would cover up for the fact that I can’t process information contrary to my pre-fab opinion.

    But, Helen, I’ve got to admit, the guy is classy:

    More from his “marvelous” keyboard:

    after I beat you like a bitch, I will hold you down and smack you across the face repeatedly with my cock.

    –JG

  162. 1878

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 11:39 am

    No my kid is not a hate filled liberal….

  163. 1879

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 11:53 am

    And I notice you can’t meet his challenge so you fall back on your typical tactic of insults.

    I notice you haven’t the balls to say “I just hate the man” so you fall back on your typical tactic of insults.

  164. 1880

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 11:54 am

    I would literally be beside myself if one of you actually had the integrity to just admit that your hatred of Bush hasn’t one actual substantive reason. AD 12-27-03

  165. 1881

    Harry Tuttle spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 12:05 pm

    I went over to Jeff Goldstein’s blog and trudged through the comments since 7/4. A great deal of nonsensical tit-for-tat (on all sides,) and Frisch does prove that it is possible for a, reportedly, liberal commenter to be as much of a nutjob as the trolls we have here. I say reportedly liberal, because the interchanges are almost entirely personal snipes at each other.

    Ms. Frisch appears to have a loose screw, and failed to realize that the imaginary people you are trading barbs with should not be allowed to cross over to reality. Nothing they say should raise one’s ire. As Alice said “you’re nothing but a deck of cards.”

    But, threaten Goldstein’s kid? I don’t think so.

    Also, the idea that Frisch represents liberals or that we should somehow apologize for her is stupid. It does point out to you righties, though, that attacking the blog owner is perilous. I’ve seen some comments directed Goldy’s way, also about his family, that were on the line.

    It was a good publicity stunt for Jeff Goldstein, though. His site is still getting so many page hits that 500 errors are common.

  166. 1882

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 12:35 pm

    Oh well the turtle has spoken… tell me oh wise turtle…why did she resign? Did you happen to notice the bit where the posts have been conveniently changed or removed?

    A liberal professor AND HER GROUPIES wants Goldsteins daughter DEAD… “Do it for the children”

  167. 1883

    Another TJ spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 1:10 pm

    And I notice you can’t meet his challenge so you fall back on your typical tactic of insults.

    How many substantive differences would it take to establish that the American people’s problems with the president are with his policies first and foremost?

    As Glenn Greenwald has ably described, the right accuses anyone who does not agree with the president’s polices of not only of being “liberal,” but also of “hating Bush,” without any evidence whatsoever.

    http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.....tical.html

    and

    http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.....tives.html

    And FAIR recently explained just how hollow the “Bush hater” epithet really is:

    http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2895

    So, really, how many substantive differences will you need to see before you accept that my dislike for the president is entirely policy-based?

  168. 1884

    Charles Kindleberger spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 3:59 pm

    169.

    Why is it that I’m supposed to care? I imagine because she’s a nut, so it’s embarrassing for the university to have one of the psych profs exhibiting behaviors she is supposed to be instructing her students about.

    Look at the rightwing nuts we have here, you, for example. It would be a great embarrassment if you turned out to be a bus drive, say.

  169. 1885

    Harry Tuttle spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 4:01 pm

    171 was from me.

  170. 1886

    For the Clueless spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 4:03 pm

    shorter ASS: when in doubt just swallow and spew more wingnut bullsh*t.

  171. 1887

    For the Clueless spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 4:11 pm

    A great American writes:

    One of the most deceitful though commonly used tactics of Bush followers is to characterize positions which they dislike as something that is espoused only by the fringe Left, even though the position is held by people across the ideological spectrum. Thus, only the Far Left opposes the war in Iraq, even though scores of retired generals, life-long conservatives, and a majority of Americans have long been against it. And only the Far Left opposes the President’s warrantless eavesdropping on American citizens, even though some of the most eloquent and forceful opponents of warrantless eavesdropping are long-time conservatives who believe in the rule of law and a restrained federal government. And only the Far Left dislikes President Bush, even though his approval ratings are at near historic lows.

  172. 1888

    Puddybud Michael Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 6:36 pm

    Hey librul nutcases: I see Maria CantVoteToWell bought off Mark Wilson per the Seattle PI article. So Maria needs to buy off her opponents in the primary.

    Hey dingleberries who support Maria: How much did she pay to shut him up!

    http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/.....ell10.html

    At a news conference at Cantwell’s Seattle campaign office, Wilson said that after “deep and personal one-on-one conversations with Senator Cantwell, I came away convinced we are on the same path when it comes to solving the crisis in Iraq and the potential crisis in Iran.”

    Responding to a question from a reporter, Wilson said the amount of money the Cantwell campaign will be paying him to stump for her is “confidential,” but that he’s temporarily closing his business, which services the construction industry, to work on the campaign.

    Cantwell spokeswoman Amanda Mahnke also declined to say how much the campaign will be paying Wilson, saying, “We don’t discuss our payroll.”

    Where is the investigation Dipshits?

  173. 1889

    Puddybud Michael Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 6:40 pm

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,28783-2263995,00.html

    Typical librul hurling insults!

  174. 1890

    Puddybud Michael Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 6:41 pm

    Damn: Looks like libruls will finally have to legally pay for their music:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5165372.stm

  175. 1891

    Puddybud Michael Kennedy spews:

    Monday, 7/10/06 at 6:43 pm

    Harry Mummified Brain Tuttle: I never said Key Lay didn’t give GWB money. I took umbrage to your attack earlier where pbj said Clinton fought for Lay to get India power rights. You ridiculed him. When I proved through the Pud D. Bud URL SMACKDOWN pbj was right, you changed the subject. Typical librul!

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