Both King and Pierce Counties updated their returns for WA-08, and while the margins have started to tighten, Dave Reichert continues to maintain about a 2,700 vote lead.
That said, there are many more ballots left to count in King than in Pierce, which historically only accounts for about 19 percent of the district’s total vote, and if this race follows the usual pattern, we should expect to see the margin continue to tighten as the votes come in, with Burner gradually eating away at Reichert’s lead. Whether she gains enough to overtake Reichert, well… that’s where the drama is.
You’ll notice that both campaigns have been pretty quiet today, not wanting to play the expectations game. I’m guessing that’s because neither campaign really knows which way this one’s going. Provisional ballots tend to substantially favor Democrats, and those will be the last to be counted, so don’t be surprised to see a sudden swing of several hundred votes towards Burner during the final days of the count.
I’m smelling a recount.
UPDATE:
Just to clarify: we don’t know exactly, because ballots are still coming in, but we’ve only counted about 60 percent of the ballots thus far, maybe less. So this thing is far from over.
Is there any place where we can find the number of ballots left to be counted?
*I’m smelling a recount.*
That’s not recount yer smellin’, that’s the smell of politically dead bodies of the WA state GOP, who got hit by a heckuva truck!
I’m smelling a recount.
(cue whiners from (un)Sound Politics)
CAN DEMOCRATS WIN MORE SENATE SEATS IN 2008?
The raw numbers say yes, simply because the GOP has more seats up for election in 2008 than the Democrats. First, though, let’s review the 2006 results.
2006 election – total Senate seats 33; breakdown – 17 Democrats, 15 Republicans, 2 independents; results – Democrats 22, Republicans 9, independents 2.
2008 election – total Senate seats 33; breakdown – 12 Democrats, 21 Republicans, 0 independents.
The Democratic seats are in Arkansas, Delaware, Illinois, Iowa, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Michigan, Montana, New Jersey, Rhode Island, S. Dakota, and West Virginia.
The Republican seats are in Alabama, Alaska, Colorado, Georgia, Idaho, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine, Mississippi, Minnesota, New Mexico, Nebraska, New Hampshire, N. Carolina, Oklahoma, Oregon, S. Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia, and Wyoming.
I figure only a couple of the Democratic seats (at most) might be in play, whereas several of the Republican seats could be in play.
Looks like an opportunity for Democrats to add 3-5 more in 2008 if things go their way, whereas Republicans have almost no chance of regaining a Senate majority in 2008.
Hey, where’s JCH and the usual gang of idiots? All we have is a pro-life Xtian troll?
“and if this race follows the usual pattern,””
If this race follows the usual pattern, the filthy election stealing liberal crooks will “find” more boxes of freshly fraudulent ballots for the Democrat.
6-7 There’s your answer…
Don Joe @1
I think http://vote.wa.gov/Elections/general/Turnout.aspx has the info you’re looking for.
The county-by-county numbers are there for, among other things, “registered voters”, “ballots counted”, “ballots left to count” (a projected number, as it reflects number of mail-in ballots in the mail, not yet received). Also the last & next tabulation date & time.
I notice King County has 13 precincts not yet reporting. Is this Carnation/Duvall, where the ballots were held up by the flooding?
For King County, they estimate that only 39% of the ballots cast have been counted to date; for Pierce, only 35%.
Thanks, Wes, but that doesn’t quite help. The 8th District doesn’t cover all of King Co, nor does it cover all of Pierce Co. I was hoping to find a precinct-by-precinct breakdown, though I suppose that’s a little difficult to do with absentee ballots.
latest results with 100% in shows Darcy with approx. 1k vote lead!
I betcha those ultra-corrupt King County elections officials threw the election to the Republican, just to throw everyone off the scent!
Didn’t JCH agree to a bet in which if the Democrats took control of both the House and Senate, he would leave this site and never post here again? I seem to remember something of the sort.
Not that I think JCH is a . . . well, for want of a better term, man of his word, but the thought of never again having to read his trollskrit brings a smile to my face.
“Truth”2006@6
Project much?
I find it odd that pretty much every single election discrepancy over the past six years has benefitted the Republicans. I find it even odder — but much nicer — that this time out even any fraud they may have had in mind wasn’t enough to turn away the wrath of the pissed-off American voter.
It is certainly possible. It would take a few percentage shift towards Burner in the later absentee votes.
2008 SENATE SEATS IN PLAY
Republicans don’t have strong prospects for any of the 3 Democratic seats that might be in play; disregarding long shots, Democrats could make a play for 10 GOP seats but realistically have attractive prospects for around 4 to 6.
Where Democrats might capture Republican seats:
1) Colorado – Wayne Allard barely won both of his elections, and may retire; the likely Democratic candidate, Mark Udall, is a formidable contender.
2) Georgia – Democrats have several strong potential candidates against Saxby Chambliss.
3) Kansas – A long shot but could be in play if Pat Roberts retires and the state’s popular Democratic governor runs.
4) Minnesota – Democrats will target Norm Coleman.
5) Mississippi – Another long shot but could be in play if Thad Cochran retires.
6) New Hampshire – State is leaning increasingly Democratic, and Democrats have strong candidates to run against John Sununu.
7) New Mexico – Pete Dominici isn’t raising money for a 2008 race, indicating he plans to retire, in which case this state is certain to have a competitive race.
8) North Carolina – Elizabeth Dole might be taken out by popular Democratic governor Mike Easley if he runs.
9) Oklahoma – This state is strongly Republican, but incumbent Jim Inhofe is unpopular and may retire, and Democrats have two strong potential candidates, including the governor.
10) Oregon – Gordon Smith is vulnerable and Democrats have strong potential candidates.
11) Tennessee – confiscating Lamar Alexander’s seat will be uphill but Democrats have two strong potential candidates in Harold Ford and the governor.
12) Texas – a long shot, but John Cornyn might be vulnerable.
13) Virginia – John Warner may retire, and Democrat Mark Warner could be a strong contender for his seat.
Where Democrats will face competitive races:
1) Louisiana – the GOP will target this seat in 2008 but don’t have a strong candidate against Mary Landrieu.
2) New Jersey – Frank Lautenberg is in his 80’s and already retired once, and is expected to leave in 2008; although uphill for Republicans, the Democrats have had some problems in this state that could drag down their candidate.
3) West Virginia – Could be in play if Jay Rockefeller retires; Bush carried this state twice.
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If this race follows the usual pattern, the filthy election stealing liberal crooks will “find” more boxes of freshly fraudulent ballots for the Democrat. Commentby Truth2006— 11/8/06@ 11:44 pm
ProudAss the crybaby sore loser (Rossi-2004) is still blowing smoke out of his ass. You lost. Get over it.
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latest results with 100% in shows Darcy with approx. 1k vote lead! Commentby BW— 11/9/06@ 12:06 am
That’s only King County. There are still absentee ballots to count in Pierce and King counties. Reichert is about 2600 ahead right now. Gonna be tough to pull this one out of the fire.
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I betcha those ultra-corrupt King County elections officials threw the election to the Republican, just to throw everyone off the scent! Commentby Enoch Root— 11/9/06@ 12:16 am
That’s gotta be it!
In 2008, Democrats will defend 6 governorships, Republicans 5. Two of the Democrats will leave because of retirement or term limits, and two of the Republicans are considered vulnerable because of controversies or unpopularity.
Goldy,
Don’t want to be a party pooper but many of those ballots left to be counted, I believe, are the infamous ones from Duvall that have been rescued from the flood.
Say what you like but that’s country pretty friendly to the Sheriff.
*caveat*
Been out and about for 12 hours enjoying life and my data could be 12 hours old. Still, the one bright/dark spot in an otherwise Democrat whooping.
One more race to report — Kansas attorney general Phill Kline, a right-to-lifer who seized women’s medical records from abortion clinics which ended up in Bill O’Reilly’s hands, was DEFEATED yesterday, 58% to 42%.
NO RECOUNT IN VIRGINIA
From news sources — Defeated GOP Sen. George Allen says he won’t seek a recount.
#16
That’s a lot of work you put in on that Senatorial list. I guess it behooves all of us to press the issue. I think sooner rather then later. Whatever it takes, we have to make the best of our opportunities to widen the Democratic majority in ’08.
I’m for getting my ass in gear to work after a little rest. 2008 is not all that far off. We will have a President to elect too.
Mike @ String Cheese Theory
The Seattle Times reports that Democrats gained nearly 300 state legislature seats nationwide, and now control both houses in 23 states, compared to 16 for Republicans.
Another potential casualty of yesterday’s election is UN Ambassador John Bolten, who has been serving on an interim basis and has not been confirmed by the Senate.
The best letter in Thursday’s Seattle Times is by Curt Fredrikson of Renton, who wrote:
” … Mr. President, this is what repudiation looks like. This is repudiation of you, of an administration that lives in its own universe and rejects information from outside of it; and, of course, it is repudiation of the unnecessary Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld war.
“Hopefully, it is also repudiation of Bush-Rove scorched-Earth politics that say 1 percent is the best margin of victory because it minimizes the need to compromise with ‘enemies.’
“When I sat in the Bellevue Republican office in October 2000, working the phones to help make George W. Bush the president, I never thought I’d feel this way today, but politics does make strange bedfellows, doesn’t it?
“All hail the return of checks and balances to the American political system! As has always been the case, we will be better for it.”
Roger Rabbit Comment: Mr. Fredrikson, I can do business with Republicans like you.
Quoted under Fair Use; for complete letter and/or copyright info, here’s the link: http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....ets09.html
Dear Republicans:
This is a letter from my heart. I am willing to discuss re-admitting you to the human race, but there are conditions. Here are my terms. There aren’t very many of them, and they’re simple and easy to understand:
1) You don’t have to agree with me on issues, but you must agree that we will treat our disagreements as honest differences of opinion among well-intentioned people.
2) You don’t have to like me, but you may not impugn my patriotism.
3) Politics is not war; it is competition, and sportsmanship and fair play are expected.
4) We will treat each other with civility and respect.
Sincerely yours,
An American Hare
Did anyone else notice there was no Eyman initiative on the ballot, and we didn’t even hear Eyman’s name during the campaign? Is the Eyman era also over?
“I betcha those ultra-corrupt King County elections officials threw the election to the Republican, just to throw everyone off the scent!”
Just watch and see how many boxes are magically “found” in the next week.
For the first time in four election cycles, Democrats are not attacking the Diebold Corp. the day after the election, accusing it of rigging its voting machines. I guess Diebold has finally been vindicated.
”
Dear Republicans:
This is a letter from my heart. I am willing to discuss re-admitting you to the human race, but there are conditions. Here are my terms. There aren’t very many of them, and they’re simple and easy to understand:
1) You don’t have to agree with me on issues, but you must agree that we will treat our disagreements as honest differences of opinion among well-intentioned people.
2) You don’t have to like me, but you may not impugn my patriotism.
3) Politics is not war; it is competition, and sportsmanship and fair play are expected.
4) We will treat each other with civility and respect.
Sincerely yours,
An American Hare
“
First of all, you don’t have a heart. Second of all, rabbits aren’t the ones to talk about admitting people to the human race. After all the vitriol you specifically have spewed, I find it ludicrous to believe anything you write. I can only think the DNC sent out the word to get the crazies under control.
After reading liberals joyous rants on the internet about how they would like to kill the President of the United States of America, after hearing Rhandi Rhodes simulate it on Air America, after seeing them play a movie in our theaters with our President digitally being assassinated, I say no. No sir. You are not sincere. You sir are a liar, not worthy of the great tidings the greatest nation on earth bestows upon its citizens. And that is not because you are a Democrat. There are good Democrats and you sir are not one of them.
This blog is not based on the premise of adults debating. That is the SoundPolitics blog. This blog is for the personal publicity of Goldstein and not much else. It is not a serious forum for debate, never has been.
6 “Truth”
“the filthy election stealing liberal crooks will “find” more boxes of freshly fraudulent ballots for the Democrat.”
I understand. You’r feeling hurt; confused. Those who you thought to be invincible have shown to be meth-snorting, ass-banging losers with no souls. It’s rough, but you’l ge over it. We already have.
But there’s work to be done. Bush says that if Democrats are elected, the terrorists win. What he MEANT was if Demcrats are elected, THE INVESTIGATIONS BEGIN. Time to get busy.
40 “Truth”
“I can only think the DNC sent out the word to get the crazies under control.”
Nope. We’re Democrats; we don’t HAVE centralized control like the Republican Borg.
“After reading liberals joyous rants on the internet about how they would like to kill the President of the United States of America, after hearing Rhandi Rhodes simulate it on Air America, after seeing them play a movie in our theaters with our President digitally being assassinated, I say no. No sir. You are not sincere.”
Let me get this straight. Someone else said something so RR is a liar? Good job, Sherlock Holmes.
“ You sir are a liar, not worthy of the great tidings the greatest nation on earth bestows upon its citizens.
But the guy who just posted about “the filthy election stealing liberal crooks ” IS worthy? Um, maybe not.
“This blog is not based on the premise of adults debating.”
Not if you neevr do.
Observer slots are gonna be open in King County. Dem party members, contact your district chair to get the info on who, when and how to sign up. If a recount happens there will be even more.
Note: Being polite to the repub observers is required but don’t expect it to be returned. Whatever you do, don’t expect them to be fair or honest when no one is looking. Also, don’t expect them to follow the rules about no cellphones since most will be real estate agents and mortgage spammers.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15628775/from/RS.2/
I KNEW this would happen. The rethugs are starting to self-destruct. They’re violating Ronnie Raygun’s commandment never to tell the truth (er I mean) never to say bad things about each other.
This is one of the best weeks of my life!
Just a thought. All the retards that voted for Reichert, just elected a representative to the MINORITY PARTY. What that means is less representation for their district.
Way to go. Every single pundit said the Democrats were going to control the house, and still they voted for less representation.
Oh well. People that vote for Republicans are known to not really understand government, or care about what is really going on.
Since Republicans worship tax dollars more than any god, I wonder if they care about the billions missing in Iraq…… The legislation written by the lobbyists, and passed by Republicans…. The rest of the swamp the Republicans filled, and live in……
WE need to gerrymander as soon as possible. And, yes, that does make us just like them.
“I betcha those ultra-corrupt King County elections officials threw the election to the Republican, just to throw everyone off the scent!”
Just watch and see how many boxes are magically “found” in the next week.
For the first time in four election cycles, Democrats are not attacking the Diebold Corp. the day after the election, accusing it of rigging its voting machines. I guess Diebold has finally been vindicated.
Commentby Truth2006— 11/9/06@ 2:51 am
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Actually there may have been some problems that favored Republicans. The fact that the people that voted for Democrats was so overwhelming, they couldn’t make it up with fraud. Read Brad Blog.com if you want more info. I am sure he will find out about the scamming of our democracy.
It helps when almost all people vote for Democrats though….
Reality strikes again.
Fraudoire redux?
a) why so long to get ballots counted; hicks out east W sure count faster
b) ok, so you libs jamming extra provisionals into the box, right?
c) which closet in KC has the extras?
d) if you guys steal a 3rd one (cantwell vs gorton your first we know of), you’ll see people in the streets
47–righton
You obviously don’t live around here– or pay att’n to the news. We’ve had heavy rains and flooding in several counties in the last few days.
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“We misread the election of 2004 as a conservative mandate when 45 percent of the American people describe themselves as moderates,” Snowe said. “If we move even further towards hard-core ideology, we’ll be in the minority for a long time.”
Wrongone, pbj, WOS, etc. Please choose hard core ideology!
Righton is a perpetual kool aid drinking wingnut. It is against his religion (self love, money love) to utter even 1 sensible phrase. Leave him in the litter box with the missing Mark the redneck, jch, puddybutt, cynnicalidiot, truth, xmashag, fatproudass, etc . The lost boys and girls, not to be missed.
I loooove the smell of steaming republicans in the morning.
Ya think the chimp is going to have to get off his fucking bicycle and GET TO WORK????
RR’s list of the ’08 Senate was very helpful. It does give me some hope. But personally, I can’t wait until the 2010 elections, when the “class of ’92” is up for grabs.
But we need to remember that next time around, it will be harder. Democrats were helped considerably this time around by the Republicans shooting themselves in the foot, what with the Delay, Foley, Haggart, and other scandals, as well as the continued drag of the war in Iraq and Bush’s refusal to accept the reality of that war. The Presidential race in 2008 will change the landscape some – Republicans who decided not to vote in disgust in 2006, will probably vote in 2008, just to cast a vote against Hillary.
It may be harder next time around. The Republicans will try to blame the Democrats for their inability to quickly solve in two years the problems which the Republicans spent six years in the making, and over which the Congress has only limited control while Bush is still President (deficit, Iraq war).
So unless the Republicans do something really stupid over the next two years, the Democrats will need to start preparing immediatly for those contests. Yesterday was good for celebrations, perhaps today also, but by tomorrow we have to get back to work.
* Don’t spend a lot of time (and NO money) moving and re-decorating offices – that will be a PR bonanza for the Republicans.
* Within the next two weeks, set up an internal ethics proceedure to root out and resolve Democratic ethics problems long before they become public issues.
* Get an immediate accounting of the REAL budget shortfalls, and make sure it is public as soon as possible. Otherwise the Republicans will try to argue that the Democrats created it. Then quickly agree on a Democratic plan to balance the budget, and put it in place. Bush probably will veto it, but that’s okay. Keep passing it every month, make Bush keep vetoing it every month, until public pressure makes him give in.
* Agree to speak with one voice on the Iraq war.
* Put an effective mentorship program in place for freshmen Congressmen, one that deals heavily with ethics compliance.
* Start recruiting candidates for ’08 Congressional seats now, put their organization and fundraising plans in place, and have them do “soft campaigning” – lots of public face time with the big shots.
I’m sure all the vote count conspiracy nutcases over at unSP who push baseless, factless assertions against “anything King County” will apologize if/when Reichert is declared the winner.
Chirrrp Creeeeeek.
Fraudoire redux?
a) why so long to get ballots counted; hicks out east W sure count faster
b) ok, so you libs jamming extra provisionals into the box, right?
c) which closet in KC has the extras?
d) if you guys steal a 3rd one (cantwell vs gorton your first we know of), you’ll see people in the streets
Commentby righton— 11/9/06@ 7:12 am
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What is really sad is the fact that we don’t see people in the streets demanding Bush be held accountable for lying us into a war. Oh, I forgot. You probably believe he was 100% honest in building support for the war. You probably still believe we invaded Iraq to keep America safe from Saddam’s WMD’s right?
One question for the wingnuts. If Bush lied to take the country to war, should he be held accountable, or should we just ignore treason because it was committed by a Republican?
Commentby righton— 11/9/06@ 7:12 am
Are you still complaining about the Governor’s race? Your hand-picked judge couldn’t find any fraud, with the exception of a couple of Republican votes. Republican observers watched at every point and found no fraud.
You lost. Get over it.
Oh, and I read a post from one of the far-righties talking about someone stuffing “flood ballots” into an accu-vote. Considering that the flood ballots are not machine readable, I’m just wondering what that would accomplish, aside from jamming the machine.
But, we’ll probably be reading posts from Pravda2006 for a while complaining about that.
Still, while we’re on the subject of voting security, I’ll put forward an additional item for the list of things we should be doing. A paper trail for any electronic voting machines. Perhaps we can also include some sort of voter verification that doesn’t look like a poll tax, just to take that issue away from the Republicans. (And Roger, if we can incorporate an inexpensive defense from falling UFOs without disenfranchising anyone, and if that takes a talking point away from the Republicans, I’d be in favor of that too. ;-) )
I’m hoping that Ms. Pelosi does reach out to the honest Republicans still in DC. Even in this election, they represent almost half of the country, and we cannot afford to yield to the temptation to give them some “payback”.
It’s important to hold those that have abused their positions accountable (and we should be no less vigilant with our own) but where our differences are honest differences in perspective, we should make every effort to bring those folks into the debate and honestly listen to them.
John Barelli @ 54
I don’t like the idea of electronic voting machines to begin with. In addition, if you create a paper trail, you eliminate the secrecy of the ballot. The paper trail records votes in the order that they are cast. And the order in which votes are cast can readily be determined by the order in which people sign in at the polls. This would enable specific voters to be matched with specific votes.
If we go to “all mail” voting, what would be the purpose of the electronic voting machine? Unless, of course, we delivered a voting machine to every voter, instead of a paper scannable ballot.
One problem with the “all mail” voting is that it eliminates polling places and therefore makes casting a provisional ballot nearly impossible.
When you have polling places, and don’t get your ballot in the mail, you can go down to the polls on election day, and cast a provisional ballot.
If you don’t have polling places because of “all mail” voting, and don’t get your ballot in the mail, you have to travel all the way down to the county seat, pay for parking in many counties (such as downtown Seattle), and visit the county auditor’s office to cast your provisional ballot.
Not very many people will be motivated to travel to the King County Courthouse to cast a provisional ballot. It would be difficult enough for a city dweller in Ballard or the Rainier Valley. A single mom on welfare in Skykomish or Enumclaw certainly is unlikely to make the trip.
If King County had “all mail” voting in 2000, Slade Gorton would have been re-elected Senator. If King County had “all mail” voting in 2004, Dino Rossi would have be our Governor today.
This is because over 30,000 provisional ballots were cast in King County in 2004, and a similar number were cast in 2000. King County votes very heavy Democrat, and the provisional voters tend to be even more Democrat in their voting.
Stefan Sharkansky is a really clever fellow. He has been extremely obsessive in pointing out the evils of “all mail” voting. He has mobilized Republicans into opposing “all mail” voting, and made Democrats believe that “all mail” voting is something that would actually hurt the Republicans.
If we get “all mail” voting, Republicans will be able to win many close races that might have otherwise gone to the Democrats.
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For the first time in four election cycles, Democrats are not attacking the Diebold Corp. the day after the election, accusing it of rigging its voting machines. I guess Diebold has finally been vindicated. Commentby Truth2006— 11/9/06@ 2:51 am
King County used Diebold touch screen voting machines in the 2006 primary for the first time. All pollworkers assigned to these machines were required to re-take the training before the Nov. 2 election. Why? Because there were a few problems in the primary. 15 problems, to be exact. What I’m referring to is the 15 pollworkers who “tested” the touch screen machines after setting them up by voting on them to see if they worked. (I assume KCRE didn’t count these votes, as they obviously knew about them, and such votes would be easy to identify — they’d be the first ones recorded on the paper trail on each of those machines.) Betcha these idiot pollworkers were ALL Republicans … just betcha they were.
Reply to ProudAss @32
“First of all, you don’t have a heart.”
True enough. After my clogged arteries stifled my rabbit heart, the veterinarian replaced it with a mechanical clock. Don’t you hear the ticking?
“Second of all, rabbits aren’t the ones to talk about admitting people to the human race.”
I suppose you’re right; it is a bit out of place for me to meddle in the affairs of an inferior species.*
* I understand from sources that you humans can fuck, at most, only 2 or 3 times a day (and only when you’re drugged); hell, I can fuck 2 or 3 times a minute!
“After all the vitriol you specifically have spewed, I find it ludicrous to believe anything you write.”
I wrote that you’re an unpatriotic, America-hating, troop-hating, piece-of-shit fascist fuck — and that turned out to be true! How much more proof of my veracity do you need?
“I can only think the DNC sent out the word to get the crazies under control.”
First of all, you don’t think. Zombies with oatmeal inside their skulls aren’t capable of thought. If you’d ever had a thought in your life, you would realize that the DNC is no more capable of telling me what to do than George W. Bush is.
“After reading liberals joyous rants on the internet about how they would like to kill the President of the United States of America, after hearing Rhandi Rhodes simulate it on Air America, after seeing them play a movie in our theaters with our President digitally being assassinated, I say no. No sir.”
I don’t know anything about “rants on the internet” of the nature you mention. I criticized Rhodes on this blog, and I also criticized the movie you’re alluding to, which by the way is a British movie that U.S. liberals had nothing to do with and no control over. I understand your unwillingness to do business with people responsible for this sort of thing. I’m not willing to do business with them, either. If you want to do your wingnutty guilt-by-association thing and extrapolate their actions to liberals in general, and hold all of us responsible for what a few individuals (over whom we have no control) did, then that’s your business.
“You are not sincere. You sir are a liar, not worthy of the great tidings the greatest nation on earth bestows upon its citizens. And that is not because you are a Democrat. There are good Democrats and you sir are not one of them.”
It’s great that we live in America, land of the free, where everyone is entitled to have an opinion. Opinions are like assholes — everybody’s got one. Some stink more than others. You guys started the name-calling. I don’t tolerate people impugning my patriotism. I’m no one’s door mat, I kick back. Any questions, dickhead?
“This blog is not based on the premise of adults debating. That is the SoundPolitics blog.”
Uh-huh … read this comment from Sound Politics then tell me whether you’d like to revise your statement:
“Congratulations Speaker Pelosi, now let the bombs fall where they may. My prediction: terror attack on domestic soil passenger aircraft within the next six months. Casualties in the 2-300 range. And, unfortunately, maybe that’s just what we need. It’s obvious people don’t remember what happened 5 years ago.
Posted by FullContactPolitics at November 8, 2006 10:52 AM”
http://tinyurl.com/ydlfwu
“This blog is for the personal publicity of Goldstein and not much else. It is not a serious forum for debate, never has been.”
Well du-uh … it’s Goldy’s blog and you’re a guest here. Reading it is a voluntary activity. Why are you still here?
“Commentby Truth2006— 11/9/06@ 3:06 am”
I didn’t say you had to accept my offer, ProudAss. That’s up to you. If you want war, I’ll give you war. Any questions?
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WE need to gerrymander as soon as possible. And, yes, that does make us just like them. Commentby harry poon— 11/9/06@ 6:57 am
Not quite. We don’t behave like they do after we gain power. But I agree on the gerrymandering; we should fuck them good when it’s time to redraw the district boundaries.
In fact, I already have my congressional districting map of Washington drawn up! It’s the soul of simplicity — just 8 straight lines from west-to-east drawn horizontally across the map of our state. Moses Lake and Spokane will be in Jim McDermott’s district!
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d) if you guys steal a 3rd one (cantwell vs gorton your first we know of), you’ll see people in the streets Commentby righton— 11/9/06@ 7:12 am
Cantwell’s been declared the winner and the only people I’ve seen in the streets are celebrating.
40 (continued)
All the pukes (what’s left of them) are in hiding. I would be too, if I were them. Material witness subpoenas any day now.
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“unless the Republicans do something really stupid over the next two years”
Count on it! Repubs are programmed for stupidity.
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(And Roger, if we can incorporate an inexpensive defense from falling UFOs without disenfranchising anyone, and if that takes a talking point away from the Republicans, I’d be in favor of that too. )
Issue tinfoil hats to all Republicans.
“Well du-uh … it’s Goldy’s blog and you’re a guest here. Reading it is a voluntary activity. Why are you still here?”
I am here to monitor hate speech and Democrat threats of violence. You are on the top of the list.
Where are the Democrats and their conspiracy theories about the Diebold machines?
I am here to monitor hate speech and Democrat threats of violence. You are on the top of the list.
You also make predictions. You predicted the GOP would retain control of both houses of Congress. How’d that work out for ya’?
Commentby Richard Pope— 11/9/06@ 10:32 am
I share your distrust of electronic voting machines, although at least one that I’ve heard of actually generates a paper ballot, which is then checked by the voter and deposited into a separate counting machine.
That does seem to be rather silly, but it would eliminate one set of potential ballot errors (and generate a whole new set).
I rather like the method Pierce County uses, with its “complete the arrow” optical scanner ballots. You deposit it in the machine, and if your ballot is not scannable for some reason, it spits the thing back immediately and lets you check it for problems.
Of course, I’m one of those old-fashioned reactionaries that actually roust myself on voting day and vote in person. My polling place is the local Lutheran Church, and the pre-school parents always have a great bake sale on election day. Pumpkin bread. Yum! (They also had carrot cupcakes for Roger.)
Commentby Roger Rabbit— 11/9/06@ 11:33 am
“Issue tinfoil hats to all Republicans.”
Hey, if that is what they need in order to feel secure that we aren’t bringing in freighter loads of illegal aliens just for the day in order to “steal” the elections, then bring on the Reynolds Wrap!
There are too many easy, cheap methods to ensure that the person casting a vote is a legal voter (or at least leave a definitive evidence trail to go after anyone dumb enough to cast a fraudulent vote).
Provisional ballot? No ID? Please place your right thumb in this box and sign the book. Thank you, here’s your ballot. Total cost to voter, thirty seconds time, including the time it takes to wipe the ink off. Total cost to state, ten cents for the wipe (to clean off the ink) and a couple of bucks per polling place for the ink pad (let’s splurge and buy two – after all we are “free-spending Democrats”).
If we save even an hour of the legislature’s time by making this issue go away, the program will have paid for itself.
I’ll even help fold the tinfoil hats, if it makes them happy.
I like the thumbprint idea. . .no need to check without a challenge.
Even if Dave squeaks a victory, Democrats now know where our weak point is. If we can work that we will win the next time.
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