Ain’t it true

When you vote Tuesday don’t forget the Bushies made America safer by posting Iraqi documents on the internet that tell terrorists how to assemble a nuclear bomb.

Klan Leader Dies In Prison

Samuel Bowers, 82, convicted and sentenced to life in 1998 for the 1966 murder of civil rights activist Vernon Dahmer, has died in a Mississippi prison.

http://tinyurl.com/yhcvyz

Roger Rabbit Commentary: Good riddance.

“O’Connor Worries About Courts’ Autonomy

“SAN FRANCISCO (AP) – Retired Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O’Connor said she fears judges are under growing political attack nationwide.

“‘I’m increasingly concerned about the current climate of challenge to judicial independence,’ O’Connor told a gathering of state judges from around the country Friday. ‘Unhappiness with judges today is at a very intense level.’

“The judiciary is the weakest of the three branches of government, she said, and therefore the one with ‘the greatest need to be defended.’

“The executive and legislative branches have become the attackers, so ‘the principal defenders are going to have to be the people of this country,’ … she said.

“O’Connor, who retired in January after 24 years on the nation’s highest court, spoke just days before South Dakota voters consider the ‘Jail 4 Judges’ initiative. It would create a citizens’ grand jury that could authorize lawsuits or criminal prosecutions against judges based on their rulings.

“Colorado voters will decide whether to limit judges on the state’s highest courts to 10 years in office, a measure that would remove five of the state’s seven Supreme Court justices within two years.”

Quoted under Fair Use; for complete story and/or copyright info see http://tinyurl.com/y3jcb2

Roger Rabbit Commentary: If Richard Pope doesn’t make it here, he could move to Colorado and try for one of their courts after they’re removed all the qualified judges!

J.A.I.L. 4 Judges is a national organization dedicated to creating citizen “grand juries” in every state (and the federal government) with the power to second-guess — and punish — judges. Implementing their agenda requires amending the state and federal constitutions.

Their proposed legislation provides that no member of the executive or legislative branch, nor any lawyer, may serve on these “grand juries.” The latter, of course, guarantees that judges will be “judged” by people who don’t know anything about law.

Should this fantasy be enacted, I can tell you right now what will happen — there will be no judges serving on our courts except those who agree with the far-right ideology of these wingnut wackos. That’s because no lawyer in his right mind will risk becoming a judge if the Screaming Right acquires the power to sue and jail judges they don’t like.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J.A.I.L._4_Judges

Just to let you know, I backtracked the ISPs used by some of the spammers above and filed abuse reports.

The Haggard case has made me think about “values”. The special committee at his church did not fire him for using an extremely addictive brain damaging drug; but when they discovered that he probably got his cock sucked, they sacked him.

Of course, these are folks who go around town squirting holy water from bug sprayers to keep the demons away…

That is funny! (And, for the record, I supported the war, despite not believing the WMD canard.)

Hey Righties. Your inbred cousin Mikey is 16 points behind Cantwell. Bendover girls. It’s time to take your medicine!

The truth will set you free moonbats. It’s worth repeating the truth!

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To Roger Rabbit and his friends, there are only two worlds left: terrorist free or terrorist controlled. Apparently are for the latter. Why? Below is an article with real names, not one with anonymous entries from unnamed sources!

“Terrorists love Democrats: “By Aaron Klein
© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

JERUSALEM – Everybody has an opinion about next Tuesday’s midterm congressional election in the U.S. – including senior terrorist leaders interviewed by WND who say they hope Americans sweep the Democrats into power because of the party’s position on withdrawing from Iraq, a move, as they see it, that ensures victory for the worldwide Islamic resistance.

The terrorists told WorldNetDaily an electoral win for the Democrats would prove to them Americans are “tired.”

They rejected statements from some prominent Democrats in the U.S. that a withdrawal from Iraq would end the insurgency, explaining an evacuation would prove resistance works and would compel jihadists to continue fighting until America is destroyed. Of course, donk and islamofascists think alike!

They said a withdrawal would also embolden their own terror groups to enhance “resistance” against Israel.

“Of course Americans should vote Democrat,” Jihad Jaara, a senior member of the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades terror group and the infamous leader of the 2002 siege of Bethlehem’s Church of the Nativity, told WND.

“This is why American Muslims will support the Democrats, because there is an atmosphere in America that encourages those who want to withdraw from Iraq. It is time that the American people support those who want to take them out of this Iraqi mud,” said Jaara, speaking to WND from exile in Ireland, where he was sent as part of an internationally brokered deal that ended the church siege.

Jaara was the chief in Bethlehem of the Brigades, the declared “military wing” of Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas’ Fatah party.

Together with the Islamic Jihad terror group, the Brigades has taken responsibility for every suicide bombing inside Israel the past two years, including an attack in Tel Aviv in April that killed American teenager Daniel Wultz and nine Israelis.

Muhammad Saadi, a senior leader of Islamic Jihad in the northern West Bank town of Jenin, said the Democrats’ talk of withdrawal from Iraq makes him feel “proud.”

“As Arabs and Muslims we feel proud of this talk,” he told WND. “Very proud from the great successes of the Iraqi resistance. This success that brought the big superpower of the world to discuss a possible withdrawal.”

Abu Abdullah, a leader of Hamas’ military wing in the Gaza Strip, said the policy of withdrawal “proves the strategy of the resistance is the right strategy against the occupation.”

“We warned the Americans that this will be their end in Iraq,” said Abu Abdullah, considered one of the most important operational members of Hamas’ Izzedine al-Qassam Martyrs Brigades, Hamas’ declared “resistance” department. “They did not succeed in stealing Iraq’s oil, at least not at a level that covers their huge expenses. They did not bring stability. Their agents in the [Iraqi] regime seem to have no chance to survive if the Americans withdraw.”

Abu Ayman, an Islamic Jihad leader in Jenin, said he is “emboldened” by those in America who compare the war in Iraq to Vietnam.

“[The mujahedeen fighters] brought the Americans to speak for the first time seriously and sincerely that Iraq is becoming a new Vietnam and that they should fix a schedule for their withdrawal from Iraq,” boasted Abu Ayman.

The terror leaders spoke as the debate regarding the future of America’s war in Iraq has perhaps become the central theme of midterm elections, with most Democrats urging a timetable for withdrawal and Republicans mostly advocating staying the course in Iraq.

President Bush has even said he would send more troops if Gen. George Casey, the top U.S. commander in Baghdad, said they are needed to stabilize the region

The debate became especially poignant following remarks by Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., the 2004 presidential candidate who voted in support of the war in Iraq. Earlier this week he intimated American troops are uneducated, and it is the uneducated who “get stuck in Iraq.”

Kerry, under intense pressure from fellow Democrats, now says his remarks were a “botched joke.”

Terror leaders reject Nancy Pelosi’s comments on Iraqi insurgency

Many Democratic politicians and some from the Republican Party have stated a withdrawal from Iraq would end the insurgency there.

In a recent interview with CBS’s “60 Minutes,” House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, stated, “The jihadists (are) in Iraq. But that doesn’t mean we stay there. They’ll stay there as long as we’re there.”

Pelosi would become House speaker if the Democrats win the majority of seats in next week’s elections.

WND read Pelosi’s remarks to the terror leaders, who unanimously rejected her contention an American withdrawal would end the insurgency.

Islamic Jihad’s Saadi, laughing, stated, “There is no chance that the resistance will stop.” – Moonbats how come the CNNs of the world could not find these Muslims? Or I think they didn’t want to show America the real enemy. They were scooped!

He said an American withdrawal from Iraq would “prove the resistance is the most important tool and that this tool works. The victory of the Iraqi revolution will mark an important step in the history of the region and in the attitude regarding the United States.”

Jihad Jaara said an American withdrawal would “mark the beginning of the collapse of this tyrant empire (America).”

“Therefore, a victory in Iraq would be a greater defeat for America than in Vietnam.”

Jaara said vacating Iraq would also “reinforce Palestinian resistance organizations, especially from the moral point of view. But we also learn from these (insurgency) movements militarily. We look and learn from them.”

Hamas’ Abu Abdullah argued a withdrawal from Iraq would “convince those among the Palestinians who still have doubts in the efficiency of the resistance.” Did you say cut and run emboldens their resistance?

“The victory of the resistance in Iraq would prove once more that when the will and the faith are applied victory is not only a slogan. We saw that in Lebanon (during Israel’s confrontation against Hezbollah there in July and August); we saw it in Gaza (after Israel withdrew from the territory last summer) and we will see it everywhere there is occupation,” Abdullah said.

While the terror leaders each independently urged American citizens to vote for Democratic candidates, not all believed the Democrats would actually carry out a withdrawal from Iraq.

Saadi stated, “Unfortunately I think those who are speaking about a withdrawal will not do so when they are in power and these promises will remain electoral slogans. It is not enough to withdraw from Iraq. They must withdraw from Afghanistan and from every Arab and Muslim land they occupy or have bases.”

He called both Democrats and Republicans “agents of the Zionist lobby in the U.S.”

Abu Abdullah commented once Democrats are in power “the question is whether such a courageous leadership can [withdraw]. I am afraid that even after the American people will elect those who promise to leave Iraq, the U.S. will not do so. I tell the American people vote for withdrawal. Abandon Israel if you want to save America. Now will this Happen? I do not believe it.”

Still Jihad Jaara said the alternative is better than Bush’s party.

“Bush is a sick person, an alcoholic person that has no control of what is going on around him. He calls to send more troops but will very soon get to the conviction that the violence and terror that his war machine is using in Iraq will never impose policies and political regimes in the Arab world.” – Now where did he hear that except from the fringe moonbats!

Commentby Mike Webb Sucks— 11/4/06@ 8:02 am
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More thoughts for you Roger Rabbit:

Democrats: ‘No comment’
on terrorists’ endorsement
DNC, Clinton, Pelosi, Kennedy decline
to discuss jihadists’ vote of confidence

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Posted: November 3, 2006
5:00 p.m. Eastern

By Bob Unruh
© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

National leaders in the Democratic Party, including Howard Dean’s Democratic National Committee, potential House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, possible presidential candidate Hillary Clinton and longtime party stalwart Ted Kennedy don’t want to talk with WorldNetDaily about an endorsement their party has received.

The endorsement came via a WND article by Jerusalem bureau chief Aaron Klein, who interviewed leaders of several prominent Mideast terrorist organizations, including Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades and Islamic Jihad.

“Of course Americans should vote Democrat,” Jihad Jaara, a senior member of the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades terror group, and infamous leader of the 2002 siege of Bethlehem’s Church of the Nativity, told WND.

“This is why American Muslims will support the Democrats, because there is an atmosphere in America that encourages those who want to withdraw from Iraq. It is time that the American people support those who want to take them out of this Iraqi mud,” said Jaara, speaking to WND from exile in Ireland, where he was sent as part of an internationally brokered deal that ended the church siege.

Jaara and others told WND that they believe if the Democrats come into power because of the party’s position on withdrawing from Iraq, that ensures victory for the worldwide Islamic resistance.

Together with the Islamic Jihad terror group, the Brigades has taken responsibility for every suicide bombing inside Israel the past two years, including an attack in Tel Aviv in April that killed American teenager Daniel Wultz and nine Israelis.

Muhammad Saadi, a senior leader of Islamic Jihad in the northern West Bank town of Jenin, said the Democrats’ talk of withdrawal from Iraq makes him feel “proud.”

“As Arabs and Muslims we feel proud of this talk,” he told WND. “Very proud from the great successes of the Iraqi resistance. This success that brought the big superpower of the world to discuss a possible withdrawal.”

But WND was unable to get a single comment from dozens of telephone calls made over two days and messages left with various leaders’ offices and press secretaries.

“I’ll see what we can do,” was the best response WND obtained when asking for a comment on the endorsement, and that came from Deputy Press Secretary Andrew Hammill in Pelosi’s office. It came on the third call to that office.

The Democratic National Committee was approached at least six times, and multiple messages were deposited on a voice mail system handled by the courteous Rosemary, who said, “We’re extremely busy,” but there was no response, even after one spokesman in Sen. Barack Obama’s officer referred WND to the DNC because such a question would be in “Chairman Dean’s” territory.

The Democratic Leadership Council’s response to multiple phone calls was similar, a promise to call back later.

At least three messages left with Sen. Clinton’s office went unreturned after a receptionist forwarded the calls to an answering machine, which informed WND that, “No one is available to take your call at this time.”

Calls to Sen. Kennedy’s office actually reached a live person, who listened to the request and promised, “If we’re able to we’ll shoot you something. We can’t promise.”

Colorado Sen. Ken Salazar’s office generated a merry-go-round of telephone numbers. A call to his Washington office generated a referral to a Denver office, which generated a referral to a press office, which generated a referral to a cell phone. When a spokesman answered that number, the caller was referred back to the press office, which had an answering machine attached to the line. Leave a message.

A call to Sen. Harry Reid also allowed the caller to leave a message.

On the Republican side, Sen. Tom Tancredo, of Colorado, said those Mideast leaders are right – in one way.

He told WND that the assessment by terrorists who suggested U.S. voters choose the Democrats on Tuesday because they believe an expected removal of U.S. troops from the Mideast would hand their factions victory is hard to dispute.

“I guess the conclusion to which anyone could come … maybe they recognize that both the general nature of the Democratic Party and the people who are at its head are folks that would rather cut and run than stand their ground on an issue of this nature,” he said.

“They’re right. I also worry about a lot of things, the way the war has been prosecuted. But beyond Iraq, here’s what I believe. I believe that there are more Republicans than Democrats that understand we are in a clash of civilizations.

“In fact the idea that Western civilization has advantages over other civilizations, that is not a concept that most Democrats would buy into and I think the radical Islamic groups recognize that,” he said.

The president’s recent statements also have given those factions reason to hope for better results under a Democrat Party leadership than the existing decision-makers.

“Our goal in Iraq is victory,” Bush said during a campaign stop this week. “Victory in Iraq will come when that young democracy can sustain itself, and govern itself, and defend itself, and be a strong ally in the war against terrorists.

“The fighting in Iraq is tough, and I understand it’s tough, and you know it’s tough, and so does the enemy. They have no conscience. They kill innocent men, women and children. They film the atrocities, they broadcast them for the world to see. They offer no hopeful vision. The only thing they know is death and destruction.

“But they hope these violent images will cause us to lose our nerve. They make a big mistake. They do not understand the true strength of the United States. We don’t run in the face of thugs and assassins, we’ll defend ourselves,” he said.

Of course Goldie is a no show on this. This blows apart any further consideration who supports cut and run and who is supportive of cut and run!

Commentby Mike Webb Sucks— 11/4/06@ 8:06 am
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Next for your review Roger Rabbit. This is the real world. Something you and your furballettes do not live in:

“ELECTION 2006
Lawmaker: Terrorists
right about Democrats
GOP congressman reacts to militants’
endorsement of ‘party of cut-and-run’

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Posted: November 3, 2006
12:41 p.m. Eastern

© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo.

Leaders of Mideast terrorist organizations such as the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades and Islamic Jihad are right – in one way, according to Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo.

Terrorists interviewed by WorldNetDaily suggested Americans should vote for Democrats Tuesday, because the party’s plan to remove U.S. troops from the Mideast would hand their factions victory.

Tancredo today told WND the assessment is hard to dispute.

“I guess the conclusion to which anyone could come … maybe they recognize that both the general nature of the Democratic Party and the people who are at its head are folks that would rather cut and run than stand their ground on an issue of this nature,” he said.

“They’re right. I also worry about a lot of things, the way the war has been prosecuted. But beyond Iraq, here’s what I believe. I believe that there are more Republicans than Democrats that understand we are in a clash of civilizations.

“In fact the idea that Western civilization has advantages over other civilizations, that is not a concept that most Democrats would buy into, and I think the radical Islamic groups recognize that,” he said.

Multiple messages left over the course of two days seeking comment from the Democratic National Committee, the Democratic Leadership Council, the offices of Sens. Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton and others were not returned to WND.

The Republican National Committee also did not return a message asking for comment.

The president’s recent statements also have given the terrorists reason to hope for better results should the Democrat Party leadership be in power rather than the existing decision-makers.

“The fighting in Iraq is tough, and I understand it’s tough, and you know it’s tough, and so does the enemy. They have no conscience. They kill innocent men, women and children. They film the atrocities, they broadcast them for the world to see. They offer no hopeful vision. The only thing they know is death and destruction,” Bush said during a recent campaign stop.

“Our goal in Iraq is victory,” Bush said. “Victory in Iraq will come when that young democracy can sustain itself, and govern itself, and defend itself, and be a strong ally in the war against terrorists.

“But they hope these violent images will cause us to lose our nerve. They make a big mistake. They do not understand the true strength of the United States. We don’t run in the face of thugs and assassins, we’ll defend ourselves,” he said.

His comments were on the same subject being discussed by those terrorist leaders this week.

“Of course Americans should vote Democrat,” Jihad Jaara, a senior member of the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades terror group, and infamous leader of the 2002 siege of Bethlehem’s Church of the Nativity, told WND.

“This is why American Muslims will support the Democrats, because there is an atmosphere in America that encourages those who want to withdraw from Iraq. It is time that the American people support those who want to take them out of this Iraqi mud,” said Jaara, speaking to WND from exile in Ireland, where he was sent as part of an internationally brokered deal that ended the church siege.

Jaara and others told WND that they believe if the Democrats come into power because of the party’s position on withdrawing from Iraq, that ensures victory for the worldwide Islamic resistance.

They rejected statements from some prominent Democrats in the U.S. that a withdrawal from Iraq would end the insurgency, explaining an evacuation would prove resistance works and would compel jihadists to continue fighting until America is destroyed.

They said a withdrawal would also embolden their own terror groups to enhance “resistance” against Israel.

Jaara was the chief in Bethlehem of the Brigades, the declared “military wing” of Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas’ Fatah party.

Together with the Islamic Jihad terror group, the Brigades has taken responsibility for every suicide bombing inside Israel the past two years, including an attack in Tel Aviv in April that killed American teenager Daniel Wultz and nine Israelis.

Muhammad Saadi, a senior leader of Islamic Jihad in the northern West Bank town of Jenin, said the Democrats’ talk of withdrawal from Iraq makes him feel “proud.”

“As Arabs and Muslims we feel proud of this talk,” he told WND. “Very proud from the great successes of the Iraqi resistance. This success that brought the big superpower of the world to discuss a possible withdrawal.”

Bush’s comments came on a campaign swing through southern states, where he was stumping for Republican candidates in a mid-term election that could leave either Republicans or Democrats in control of Congress, and terrorists a focal point of many debates.

“We will defeat them,” he promised. “We’ll defeat them because our commanders on the ground have all the flexibility necessary to make sure that we constantly stay ahead of the enemy. We’ll defeat them because we got a fantastic United States military,” he said.

“We will succeed in Iraq because the Iraqis want to live in a peaceful society. Twelve million – nearly 12 million defied car-bombers and assassins and terrorists and went to vote. … And I believe strongly that they’ll become a government of the people, and by the people, and for the people.

“As a matter of fact, I believe the only way we cannot succeed is if we leave before the job is done,” he said.

Bush said Democrats have talked a lot about different plans to deal with terrorism.

“They’ve come up with a lot of creative ways to describe leaving Iraq before the job is done. Sometimes they say, ‘immediate redeployment.’ Sometimes they say they wouldn’t spend another dime on our troops. Sometimes they say the idea that we’re going to win this war is an idea that unfortunately is just plain wrong. However they put it, the Democrat approach in Iraq comes down to this: the terrorists win and America loses,” he said.

But in a statement on their website, the Democrats said, “We will protect Americans at home and lead the world by telling the truth to our troops, our citizens and our allies. We believe in a strong national defense that is both tough and smart, recognizing that homeland security begins with hometown security.”

“Democrats have a plan that is comprehensive – from repairing our military, to winning the war on terror, to protecting our homeland security, to ensuring success in Iraq and freeing America of its dependence on foreign oil – and it will finally prepare America for the security needs of the 21st Century. And we honor the sacrifices our troops, their families and veterans by making sure we take care of them when they come home,” the statement continued.

A new New York Times poll also indicated that Americans believe the U.S. will pursue a “quicker exit from Iraq” should the Democrats be in control. The survey said Americans believe the Democrats “have coalesced around a general position of finding a way to reduce or end American involvement in Iraq” but it also noted “there is substantial disagreement among Democratic Congressional leaders and candidates about exactly how to accomplish that.”

“Nearly 75 percent of respondents, including 67 percent of Republicans and 92 percent of Democrats, said they expected that Americans (sic) troops would be taken out of Iraq more swiftly under a Democratic-led Congress.”

The poll said 41 percent of respondents said they expected that troop levels would decrease if Democrats won control, while 40 percent said the party would seek to remove all troops. Forty-one percent said that they expected troop levels to remain the same if Republicans won, while 29 percent said they thought the United States would send more troops if the Republicans continued to control Congress.

Vice President Dick Cheney has reinforced Bush’s plans:

“Time and time again, we’re seeing examples of Democratic Party leaders apparently having lost their perspective concerning the nature of the enemy we face, and the need to wage this fight aggressively,” he said in a campaign stop this week. “No sharper example can be found than the Democratic Party chairman himself, Howard Dean, who said the capture of Saddam Hussein didn’t make America any safer.”

Abu Abdullah, a leader of Hamas’ military wing in the Gaza Strip, told WND the policy of withdrawal “proves the strategy of the resistance is the right strategy against the occupation.”

“We warned the Americans that this will be their end in Iraq,” said Abu Abdullah, considered one of the most important operational members of Hamas’ Izzedine al-Qassam Martyrs Brigades, Hamas’ declared “resistance” department. “They did not succeed in stealing Iraq’s oil, at least not at a level that covers their huge expenses. They did not bring stability. Their agents in the [Iraqi] regime seem to have no chance to survive if the Americans withdraw.”

Abu Ayman, an Islamic Jihad leader in Jenin, said he is “emboldened” by those in America who compare the war in Iraq to Vietnam.

“[The mujahedeen fighters] brought the Americans to speak for the first time seriously and sincerely that Iraq is becoming a new Vietnam and that they should fix a schedule for their withdrawal from Iraq,” boasted Abu Ayman.

Many Democratic politicians and some from the Republican Party have stated a withdrawal from Iraq would end the insurgency there.

In a recent interview with CBS’s “60 Minutes,” House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, stated, “The jihadists (are) in Iraq. But that doesn’t mean we stay there. They’ll stay there as long as we’re there.”

Pelosi would become House speaker if the Democrats win the majority of seats in next week’s elections.

WND read Pelosi’s remarks to the terror leaders, who unanimously rejected her contention an American withdrawal would end the insurgency.

Islamic Jihad’s Saadi, laughing, stated, “There is no chance that the resistance will stop.”

He said an American withdrawal from Iraq would “prove the resistance is the most important tool and that this tool works. The victory of the Iraqi revolution will mark an important step in the history of the region and in the attitude regarding the United States.”

I guess John Murtha is right? Wrong!

Commentby Mike Webb Sucks— 11/4/06@ 8:11 am

Thank you John Kerry:

http://hotlineblog.nationaljou.....outli.html

Dear ACORN, Illegals, New York City Jews who “double” vote Democrat in NYC and Palm Beach, and Democrat Blacks who get bussed to several polls in Milwaukee, Border Patrol with dogs, and the MinuteMen will be at EVERY poll to arrest and deport you on Tuesday!! Voter fraud is a capital offense!!!

Ted Haggard look alike: Sorry you are not my type. My type is soft female and has nice suckable protrusions on their chest.

I see you want to emulate him. Better call Mike Jones!

It’s worth ignoring giant, rambling, incoherant cut-and-paste jobs that foul an otherwise intelligent blog.

re 42: Go away. You’re an idiot.

You can make good money as a hatchet man but you need to make enough moolah to live in a gated community w/ security cameras.

Don’t come to my house looking for your pension you seedy old derelict.

I make the hard decisions. You are fired and I get a $28 million golden parachute. Wow!! That wasn’t so hard!

The moonbats are getting edgy, I think they realize they are about to lose the only poll that counts.

Dick Cheney is going hunting, agian. Does this mean that he will “bag” another lawyer?
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITI.....index.html

BigGlen, Dick Cheney described this election as critical in determining the direction we take in the “ideological struggle of the 21st century.” I guess, once again, Dick Cheney has “other priorities.”

“The democrats lack the cohesive plan to generate victory on Tuesday. “Bush is bad” is good…but not enough to do a 1994-like turn.

Too bad, if they could have gotten it together this year, it would have been easy.”

Commentby Thomas Trainwinder— 11/6/06@ 9:01 am

Oh, well. Since Mr. Trainwinder says that the Democrats can’t win this year, I guess it’s just a waste of my time to vote.

I’ll just stay home and let the Republicans keep spending my Great-grandchildren’s credit, while getting my shipmates killed and alienating most of the world.

I suppose that it’s a waste of time for me to get out and do my part to elect a House of Representatives that will actually look into the many ethical lapses of the Republicans. There’s just nothing I can do about removing the culture of corruption that has totally controlled Washington DC for the last six years.

Mr. Trainwinder tells me that we can’t win, and that the Democrats basic idea that the first thing we have to do is stop heading in the wrong direction isn’t good enough. Oh, the heartbreak. I had hoped that we could re-take the House, but now that Mr. Trainwinder has told me that it’s a lost cause, I suppose that I’ll just stay home tomorrow and watch reruns of old “Matlock” episodes.

Of course, since all of us Democrats are going to stay home and watch Matlock, there really isn’t any reason why Republicans should go out in the nasty weather and vote, either. I hear that it will be a really good Matlock episode. No need to head out there in the rain. Why don’t you just stay home?

We’ll tell you how the election turns out.

Saddam WHO???

I’ve been bar-b-queing and eating babies to relieve my pre-election anxiety. But it’s OK. They’re fully born babies so no murder is involved.

@36 – I have often wondered whether neo-cons understand “reverse psychology” even as blatantly poor a representation of it as you quote in your post.

Al-Queida and their ilk want people to vote Republican because they know the Republican party will follow orders and make a lot of money and arms flow into the terrorists coffers.

But terrorists are stupid. They consider this press release to be “cutting edge” and think it will fool Americans into voting for Bush. They don’t realize that we as a nation have cut our teeth on the best that advertising has to offer and aren’t going to be fooled by some pathetic attempt to keep the republicans in control.

They tried to demonize Nancy Pelosi, but no one knew who she was. It’s hard to frighten voters with a “bogeyperson” named, NANCY!

What a bunch of YOHO’s!!!

Oh, my sweet and bleeding Jesus! I’m so scared! Here comes Nancy Pelosi!!! (hehe)

John,

No, it’s not a waste to vote. I’m just saying that the democrats failed to develop a meaningful platform other than “Bush is Bad”.

The republicans are great at getting out the vote and focusing efforts at constiuencies that are under represented in polls.

It was a golden opportunity … avoided.

Look at the 8th district. Any decent, experienced democrat would have a 5-10 point lead going into election day. Instead, the democrats have an inexperienced contender. It’s just one example of the lack of party planning and will.

Remember 2004? The Dems felt really strong going in (Iraq was pretty bad) and the Reps bucked history and added to their majorities.

This was the year for the Dems to get cohesive. They failed. That’s too bad…as I want a change in congress. I just wish there had been the equivalent of a “contract with America” that was meaningful.

Newsweek’s Last Polling, reported Nov. 4th:

“Nov. 4, 2006 – As President George W. Bush jets across Red State America this weekend, Republican candidates are falling further behind Democratic rivals, according to the new NEWSWEEK poll. While the GOP has lagged behind Democrats throughout the campaign season, the trend in the past month—when NEWSWEEK conducted four polls in five weeks—had suggested the Republicans were building momentum in the homestretch.

No more. The new poll finds support for Republicans (and for President Bush) receding. For example, 53 percent of Americans want the Democrats to win enough seats to take control of one or both houses of Congress in the midterm elections on Tuesday. Those results are close to early October levels, while less than a third of Americans (32 percent) want Republicans to retain control. If the elections were held today, 54 percent of likely voters say they would support the Democratic candidate in their district versus 38 percent who would vote for the Republican-a 16-point edge for the Democrats….

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15...../newsweek/

I love the Ink Spots.

Were Kodos and Kang supposed to be symbolic of the chickenhawks and Iraq, or the Federal Reserve (Greenspan and Bernanke) and the credit bubble, or both?

70 TT

“I just wish there had been the equivalent of a “contract with America” that was meaningful.”

You’re not paying attention either in here or in the big world.

The Democratic party has it’s Six Point Plan, which you somehow missed. Hard to say how, since the rolled it out in July 2006.

And, of course, in every major paper in the country you COULD have read about Speaker=to-be Pelosi’s First 100 Hours agenda, but you didn’t.

You see, “they don’t have a plan:” is the Republican way to keep you from realizing that “The Republican plan ISN’T WORKING.” Seems like they really “catapulted the propaganda” in your case.

Six Point Plan:
1. Honest Leadership & Open Government
2. Real Security
3. Energy Independence
4. Economic Prosperity & Educational Excellence
5. A Healthcare System that Works for Everyone
6. Retirement Security

First 100 hours agenda:
Day One: Put new rules in place to “break the link between lobbyists and legislation.”

Day Two: Enact all the recommendations made by the commission that investigated the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

Time remaining until 100 hours:
– Raise the minimum wage to $7.25 an hour, maybe in one step. Cut the interest rate on student loans in half. Allow the government to negotiate directly with the pharmaceutical companies for lower drug prices for Medicare patients.
– Broaden the types of stem cell research allowed with federal funds _ “I hope with a veto-proof majority,” she added in an Associated Press interview Thursday.

All the days after that:
“Pay as you go,” meaning no increasing the deficit, whether the issue is middle class tax relief, health care or some other priority.

72 JCH

Coker wins in Tennessee? Oh, wow, what a blow to Democrats; we fail to capture one of the seven possible pickups. Is that what “victory” looks like to you pathetic losers now?

Illegal Democrat voting Mooooooooooooooooooooooslims who are not citizens will be deported back to Mooooooooooooooooooooooslimland!!!!

Daddy Love, 25% of Democrat votes in NM [Baja Norte, MX] are ILLEGAL!!!!!! Hey Illegals!!!! Border Partrol and the MinuteMen are ready!!! We will deport you and your “anchor babies”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

cont. @ 80

The bet is the Dems will control the House AND the Senate.

I am Republican – I lie, cheat and steal when I’m not being a family man(shut up you fat whore…..Where’s Mike?) or being a hypocrit. I hate liberals, but I want to liberate Iraq. HAIL HITLER!

That Blakeman is a classic wingnut GOP shill. All the corruption and failure of GOP just seems to be no big deal – he just shrugs and says it’s all “untrue”.

The only way to deal with people like this is to defeat them utterly – vote them out and keep them out for a generation.

But it won’t happen until people give a damn.

In case anybody missed it, this item is worth reposting:

Editorial

The Great Divider
Published: November 2, 2006

As President Bush throws himself into the final days of a particularly nasty campaign season, he’s settled into a familiar pattern of ugly behavior. Since he can’t defend the real world created by his policies and his decisions, Mr. Bush is inventing a fantasy world in which to campaign on phony issues against fake enemies.

In Mr. Bush’s world, America is making real progress in Iraq. In the real world, as Michael Gordon reported in yesterday’s Times, the index that generals use to track developments shows an inexorable slide toward chaos. In Mr. Bush’s world, his administration is marching arm in arm with Iraqi officials committed to democracy and to staving off civil war. In the real world, the prime minister of Iraq orders the removal of American checkpoints in Baghdad and abets the sectarian militias that are slicing and dicing their country.

In Mr. Bush’s world, there are only two kinds of Americans: those who are against terrorism, and those who somehow are all right with it. Some Americans want to win in Iraq and some don’t. There are Americans who support the troops and Americans who don’t support the troops. And at the root of it all is the hideously damaging fantasy that there is a gulf between Americans who love their country and those who question his leadership.

Mr. Bush has been pushing these divisive themes all over the nation, offering up the ludicrous notion the other day that if Democrats manage to control even one house of Congress, America will lose and the terrorists will win. But he hit a particularly creepy low when he decided to distort a lame joke lamely delivered by Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts. Mr. Kerry warned college students that the punishment for not learning your lessons was to “get stuck in Iraq.” In context, it was obviously an attempt to disparage Mr. Bush’s intelligence. That’s impolitic and impolite, but it’s not as bad as Mr. Bush’s response.

Knowing full well what Mr. Kerry meant, the president and his team cried out that the senator was disparaging the troops. It was a depressing replay of the way the Bush campaign Swift-boated Americans in 2004 into believing that Mr. Kerry, who went to war, was a coward and Mr. Bush, who stayed home, was a hero.

It’s not the least bit surprising or objectionable that Mr. Bush would hit the trail hard at this point, trying to salvage his party’s control of Congress and, by extension, his last two years in office. And we’re not naïve enough to believe that either party has been running a positive campaign that focuses on the issues.

But when candidates for lower office make their opponents out to be friends of Osama bin Laden, or try to turn a minor gaffe into a near felony, that’s just depressing. When the president of the United States gleefully bathes in the muck to divide Americans into those who love their country and those who don’t, it is destructive to the fabric of the nation he is supposed to be leading.

This is hardly the first time that Mr. Bush has played the politics of fear, anger and division; if he’s ever missed a chance to wave the bloody flag of 9/11, we can’t think of when. But Mr. Bush’s latest outbursts go way beyond that. They leave us wondering whether this president will ever be willing or able to make room for bipartisanship, compromise and statesmanship in the two years he has left in office.

http://tinyurl.com/u7q98

(Quoted under Fair Use)

Bush finally speaks the truth:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e07uIcQMFlE

18 REPUBLICAN Congressmen CURRENTLY under FEDERAL investigation.

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The Opinion referenced in the post concerns IRAQ and GWB, it has nothing to do with sports.

Man this guy is great. We need MUCH MUCH MUCH more of this to beat these traitors.

GREGOIRE PROPOSES $315,000,000 TAX CUT

08:25 AM PST on Friday, November 3, 2006
Associated Press

OLYMPIA, Wash. – Washington businesses and workers would save an estimated $315 million under a proposed six-month suspension of some of the payments they make for workers’ compensation insurance. … The fund would still have enough money to pay benefits for injured workers. … State officials say the payments can be suspended because of a large budget surplus.

http://tinyurl.com/vh7n2

Schecter is a LIAR. Clinton was President when teh USS Cole was attacked.

At any rate, Republicans will retain control of congress. No way will Democrats get both houses of congress. So live it up in your fantasy land liberals. Realisty strikes on Tuesday!

Here are some sample conspiracy theories for you to rehearse for Tuesday:

Diebold machines

Voter suppression in Ohio (oops, better not mention that tired point as the MSM did report on Democrats trading crack cocaine for fraudulent voter registrations there).

Chimp, chimp, chimpy McChimp.

I am sure you all can think of more. You’ll have plenty of time here a the asylum to work on it over the next 4 years though. Enjoy!

Righty, I think we will do better than that. But I must say that I don’t think this fellow did our side any good by his foul mouthed invectives. I am not excusing the GOP guy, but we are supposed to show we are above that.

We don’t need filthy language to win elections. That fellow was shameful. At the end of the day, all that shouting down does is turn off voters.

It makes me want to say to hell with it.

“I love Cliff Schecter.”

Goldy,

I can see the reason for your affection of schecter after listening to the guy. Are you moonlighting as a scriptwriter for Schecter? You both think alike.

“Well no more. This is how the game is played, and unless everybody gets together and agrees to change the rules, this is how we’re going to play it.”

Continue on, the REAL american people will tire of the language and ugliness real fast…. So please don’t stop….

The inheritance tax repeal is a scam, of course. The $184 million of education needs it de-funds won’t go away. All this initiative does is transfer taxes from the very wealthy to people of ordinary means.

Actually, I couldn’t find a single wingnut letter in today’s on-line edition of The Columbian. But kudos to Eric C. Jensen of Vancouver for taking on one of that newspaper’s irrational, wingnutty, far right letter writers:

“Regarding Don Jennings’ Oct. 30 letter, ‘Keep GOP in control,’ the most recent surge of violence in Iraq is related to the holy month of Ramadan, not the attempt by insurgents to get Democrats elected to replace Republicans. … Please stop getting opinions from Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity and the other talking-points locksteppers. Use the lessons of history to formulate your arguments.”

And to Dave Vallely of Vancouver:

“The terrorists in their wildest dreams never imagined doing as much damage to America as this Republican administration has done. … The Republicans have trashed the U.S. Constitution …. Why are Republicans attacking and trashing gold-star mothers, retired generals, veteran U.S. senators and anyone who questions their failures? Because all they have is fear-mongering and hate. … Democracy: use it or lose it. Get informed, get involved and vote ….”

http://tinyurl.com/y5e2ec

Thank God not everyone in Clark County is flaming nuts! And thanks, guys, for standing up to the wingnut bullies — that’s what it’s going to take to save our country from fascism.

And now … let’s check the local fish wrapper whose owner tirelessly laments that $900 million mom-and-pops like him are being driven out of business by evil conglomerates.

In a story on the 8th CD race:

“Voters frustrated by Republicans also were skeptical that Democrats could do better. And those who have soured on the GOP’s party loyalty thought the Democrats would be just as partisan.” http://tinyurl.com/yfqx6x

That’s liberal-biased reporting for ya. Next …

“The seemingly endless 2006 election season wraps up Tuesday …. Here is a handy clip-and-save list of Seattle Times endorsements and recommendations in key races:

“Republican Mike McGavick … has the potential to be an innovative and influential senator for our state. …

“In the 5th District, Republican incumbent Cathy McMorris is picked. Her knowledge of the issues has improved dramatically in her first term.

“Our 8th District endorsement goes to Republican incumbent Dave Reichert …. Democratic opponent Darcy Burner has too thin a résumé to replace him.

“Initiative 920 … the state estate tax … hurts family businesses and raises a marginal amount of money for state government. …”

You get the idea — more liberal crapola. Next …

“Kerry was certainly not a scholar in college, so his draft-avoidance objective … is probably the reason he enlisted in the Navy.” — Gary Kennedy, a proud member of the USMC and graduate from UW with higher grades than John Kerry, Des Moines

Roger Rabbit Comment — See what I mean about irrational, wingnutty, far right letter writers? Guess today is the Seattle Fish Wrapper’s day to get ’em, because there’s more:

“Kerry went to college, got a push-button degree, and went to Vietnam (as an officer) to film his heroics. Pathetic.” — Kurt Mahugh, Woodinville

But thank God not all of the Fish Wrapper’s letter writers are nuts:

“Yes, the Democrats believe in bringing our troops home — alive …” — Dan Slaby, Auburn

“The Times has admonished Sen. John Kerry for his late apology for an obviously botched joke about Mr. Bush …. The president has never apologized for a botched war … for providing our troops with inadequate body armor … for dividing this nation … for turning us into the world’s pariah. And while we are at it, the Republican leadership has not apologized for not holding this administration accountable for its incompetence.” — Peter Moore, Seattle

Thanks, guys, for standing up to the rightwing bullies and nuts! You’re real Americans. As opposed to the fake, swaggering, smug, know-it-all, flag-waving kind.

http://tinyurl.com/yacw3m

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“Clinton was President when teh USS Cole was attacked.”

“According to Dr. (Condoleeza) Rice, the decision not to respond militarily to the Cole bombing was President Bush’s.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Cole_bombing

18 (continued)

The USS Cole was attacked on October 18, 2000 — about 3 months before Clinton left office. It was not immediately known who was behind the attack. How the hell do you retaliate when you don’t even know who did it? By January 20, 2001 — 5 days after Bush’s inauguration — the CIA and FBI were pointing the finger at Al Qaeda.

Bush’s national security advice, Condi Rice, tells us Bush — not Clinton — decided against a military retaliation against Al Qaeda for the Cole bombing (one supposes it would be similar to Clinton’s cruise missile attacks on Al Qaeda camps in Afghanistan) because he didn’t want to attack A.Q. piecemeal, he wanted to eliminate it. So Bush, according to Wikipedia (which footnotes to the official 9/11 Commission report), “began work on a new strategy to eliminate al-Qaeda” — and did nothing to A.Q. until after 9/11.

What Wikipedia doesn’t mention is the Clinton administration warned incoming Bush officials that Al Qaeda was the most serious threat the U.S. faced; that the Clinton administration developed a comprehensive plan to fight terrorism and gave it to the Bush administration; and that the Bush administration shelved it and did absolutely nothing until 9/11 shook the Bushies out of their lethargy. They were busy. Bush was busy taking vacations in Texas (42% of his first 9 months in office), and Republicans were busy passing tax cuts for millionaires.

Spin, spin, spin. The Cole was one of the first balls that Bush dropped. It would not be the last, only a harbinger of the incompetence, lethargy, and negligence to come.

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So please don’t stop…. Commentby Kiroking— 11/5/06@ 1:33 pm

You first. Your side started it. We’ll stop when you stop.

Has anyone besides me noticed a rash of wingnuts pretending to be Democrats lately? The GOP is so bad even the wingnuts don’t want to be called “Republicans” anymore. They’re like John Gacy pretending to be a clown.

Oh gawd, that made my heart feel good! I’m sorry politics has become a shout-down match of attacks but the rethugs started it. . . we’ve finally got somebody who can do it back. Good ole’ Brad was swallowing a lot trying to keep up and trying to find something to say . . . revisiting Clinton? That’s lost its effect. Finally had to personally attack Chris . . . what a values-bankrupt party, this so-called “party of values.”

Also, I heard some talk on CSpan that quite a few voters in Tennessee didn’t even know Ford was black . . . they liked what he had to say and what he stood for. So, racism raises its ugly head again. Bigotry still pays its way, doesn’t it.

@31,

““According to Dr. (Condoleeza) Rice, the decision not to respond militarily to the Cole bombing was President Bush’s.””

Liar Rabbit, how about printing the FULL quote instead of the select portions? LIAR!!!

“According to Dr. Rice, the decision not to respond militarily to the Cole bombing was President Bush’s. She said he “made clear to us that he did not want to respond to al Qaeda one attack at a time. He told me he was ‘tired of swatting flies.'” The administration instead began work on a new strategy to eliminate al-Qaeda.

“They’re like John Gacy pretending to be a clown.”

John Gacy was a Democrat.

Here:

http://www.glennbeck.com/news/01302004.shtml

Beck sources off other documents so dismissing because it

Ted Haggard Admits Sexual Misconduct, Lying

“Ousted Evangelist Confesses to Followers
“By COLLEEN SLEVIN, AP

“COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. (Nov. 5) – Saying he was a ‘deceiver and liar’ who had given into his dark side, the Rev. Ted Haggard confessed to sexual immorality Sunday in a letter read from the pulpit of the megachurch he founded.”

For complete story and/or (c) info see http://tinyurl.com/yz22ts

I wonder if Glenn Beck has ever heard of snopes.

@24

Estate taxes……. what if no multi-millionaires die next year? Where does your 184 million bucks come from?

Our state constitution requires adequate funding for education from the STATE. Why can’t they find a STABLE income source?

This quote says so much more about the Military under Democrats than anything else:

From one of the sailors on the USS Cole at the time of the attack:

“Petty Officer Jennifer Kudrick said that if the sentries had fired on the suicide craft “we would have gotten in more trouble for shooting two foreigners than losing 17 American sailors.””

Hopefully the link will come through if Clownstein isn;t censoring again:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Cole_bombing

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Go read the state supreme court decisions on the subject and then explain it to us.

Hint: The state constitution gives the power of taxation and spending to the legislature not courts.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/wmdquotes.asp

Claim: Quotes reproduce statements made by Democratic leaders about Saddam Hussein’s acquisition or possession of weapons of mass destruction.

Status: True.

42 (continued)

Why the fuck should I argue your side of the argument? Are you too stupid or lazy to do it yourself? I’m not your fucking secretary.

48

Apparently no HTML is allowed. Or Clownstein is censoring again.
Commentby Truth2006— 11/5/06@ 3:05 pm

Or you don’t know how to use a computer.

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“Estate taxes……. what if no multi-millionaires die next year? Where does your 184 million bucks come from? Commentby sgmmac— 11/5/06@ 3:25 pm

What if nobody buys any gas next year? Where do our roads come from?

If I believe the ads – we are relying on less than 1% of the population in Washington state to die………SMEG

Exactly the problem with you, Smeg. You get all your information from the ads. What a fucking fool.

53 (continued)

Actually, you make an excellent point Mac. Under our current Rube Goldberg tax system, no dead millionaires would be a disaster for our schools! We need to eliminate the fiscal risks of actuarial fluctuation.

Therefore, I propose we eliminate the estate tax, enact a state income tax, and treat inheritances as ordinary income. That way, it gets rolled into a much larger tax. The advantage of this is that personal income as a whole is much less likely to fluctuate year-to-year than the amount of taxable inheritances.

Skagit,

The state provides money for education, the feds provide money for education, and the counties provide money for education and the little taxpayers who own homes pay property taxes which a portion of fund schools in their district. If you live in a distict like mine, you may have also voted for a special levy for schools. I voted for one last election to build new schools and/or renovate old schools. It’s the first “tax” that I ever voted in favor of…………..

How about we just tax all lawyers named after cartoon characters.

Exactly. Smeg. WE pay the taxes and and we pay far more of them than the rich. The estate tax is one of those taxes they pay that helps recycle opportunities for the middle class. So you want you kids to pay even more taxes than they already do so that the rich can continue to pay less taxes than the rest of us? Boy, that’s great thinking! We thinking like that, I’ll be in the poorhouse in no time.

I have a house in Seattle. I know what paying property taxes is all about . . . our schools are going wanting because we middle class people in Seattle can’t take much more.

Oh, but let’s give those rich inheritors another break, shall we? And any estate taxes they pay are deducted from the federal taxes. It keeps the money at home. But, then, you probably didn’t know that either.

Apparently no HTML is allowed. Or Clownstein is censoring again.
Commentby Truth2006— 11/5/06@ 3:05 pm

If David was able to run a website that forbade HTML then I think we have a story bigger than the immaculate conception!

erratum

“Petty Officer John Washak …”

Skagit – You’ve been drinking or smoking too much dope!

Commentby sgmmac— 11/5/06@ 3:46 pm

Your only response to papers endorsing “no” on the proposition; to the point about keeping the money in this Washingtin rather than the other Washington; to the 17% vs. 4% taxes the middle class to wealthy is dope?

Who’s the one operating without a battery here? Not me.

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How about we just tax all lawyers named after cartoon characters. Commentby Truth2006— 11/5/06@ 3:46 pm

How about if you pay the same taxes I do for starters.

And, SMEG, the feds do not pay for education. They do fund some programs . . . like title 1 and nclb (which is underfunded). Tuition costs are the highest in history. And high middle and upper class families are fleeing to private schools that cost thousands more a year than the public schools get.

God save this society from people who get all their information from lying political ads.

Smeg: Yes, I knew that. I also know that some are leaving the state to keep the money in their pocket instead of the state’s pocket.

Name one person who’s leaving. And if they are leaving, how does that keep the money in their pocket? It will be going to WA DC . . . didn’t you understand that? Don’t you get it? It will not stay in their pocket.

Anybody who’s leaving – which is just another piece bs from Smet – has my blessings because not only will they still have to pay the estate tax, but they’ll have the fun of paying moving vans and arriving with broken furniture and dishes.

Couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch of suckers.

the rich are paying the majority of the taxes in this country. SMEG

Smeg, there’s no hope for you. All the reasons above tell you why you’re wrong; but, with the herd mentality of the right-wing propaganda machine, you continue to prove why this country is in a mess and getting worse. For gods sake, read a book or a newspaper. Get yourself some education.

BTW, interesting that you haven’t responded to one of my facts.

Also, Rabbit, you may like the progressive income tax, but I’m not convinced. There will be the same loopholes that the rich currently use to get out of taxes. As Gov Locke said himself, the states with the income tax are having just as much difficulty as the sales tax states. Since the feds are not helping much, everybody is in trouble. And this state will never get rid of the sales tax to implement an income tax. So, we’ll have taxes all over the boards and we’ll still be the ones paying them.

An income tax is another simple solution for simple minds like Smegs who want easy answers. You should know better.

I am for a consumption tax . . .

Cry me a fucking river for the poor picked-on rich, Mac.

You know, Rabbit, she’s already voted to repeal. She better not sleep tonight . . . cause she deserves to lay awake wondering how much more she’s going to have to cough up to make up the difference. While all her “poor” rich inheritors are vacationiing in the Caribbean and laughing over their gin and tonics.

I watched the PI editorial board question the son of a commercial property owner in Belleve and a spokesperson for the other side. His name was Aaron I think. Anyway Aaron talked about how hard his parents worked to achieve their wealth . . . of course, mom was a real estate agent (talk about having inside information) and that he had to ride his bike three miles to weed the property when he was a kid. Of course, he didn’t mention that Bellevue grew up around the property which added to the value . . . nor that owning real estate is hardly a labor intensive way to acquire wealth.

Smeg would get it but the PI board did. If you read their editorial, they come down on the side that us real people pay the majority of taxes and decided we don’t need to pay more just to give the rich a break.

So much for your “facts” Smeg. Like I said, read a damned newspaper once in a while.

Make that “Smeg wouldn’t get it.”

One only has to read the words on the John Rogers Memorial in Olympia to hear what the 3rd Gov of Washington was talking about:

“I would make it impossible for the covetous and avaricious to utterly impoverish the poor. The rich can take care of themselves.”

“I would make it impossible for the covetous and avaricious to utterly impoverish the poor. The rich can take care of themselves.”

Commentby coiler— 11/5/06@ 4:49 pm

And if they couldn’t, they’ve got the stupid poor to do it for them.

Gidget,

Those who are for consumption taxes are those who know that they don’t consume very much!

The rich multi-millionaires love consumption taxes, because they pay very little as a percentage of their income.

But you, Gidget, can keep paying 17% of your income so that Bill Gates can pay less than 1/100th of his income!

Gidget,

I read newspapers everyday. As a matter of fact, I consume them!

What can we do to further punish Joe Lieberman? When he retires I want him to be a sad and broken man.

I was watching Elizabeth Dole on Meet the Press today and I sympathize with Bob and his need for Viagra. Doesn’t that irritating bitch ever shut her yap?

But you, Gidget, can keep paying 17% of your income so that Bill Gates can pay less than 1/100th of his income!

Commentby sgmmac— 11/5/06@ 5:10 pm

Well, I guess I made my point. Does this mean you finally get it? Or are you still confused?

And if you’re so well read, why don’t you know anything?

Ted Haggard – Fucking Liar. Another Dumb ASS Mother Fucking REPUBLICAN. I think this speaks for itself. Now just substitute Geroge Bush for Ted Haggard. Have no shame. Go Christian Coalition! HAIL HITLER!

Why do you think “others” such a RICH people need to pay your share? Don’t you think the Rich People GIVE?

My share? 17% to 4%? Where did you get your math? JP Patches school for the Slow?
And no, research shows that percentagewise, middle class people give more of their income to charity that the rich.

See, all of you are clueless and you are your own worst enemies. I don’t care if you want to give to the rich . .. but please don’t give my money to the rich as well.

@76,

Who the hell sent the USS Cole to Yemen in the first place? BLow Job CLinton, that’s who. He sent them there as som sort of appeasement to muslims. If he hadn’t been so damned politically correct and sent that ship there in the first place, the whole thing wouldn’t have happened. And given that Clinton’s ambassador to Yemen, Barbara Bodine, was bedning over backwards to ensure that there was no offense to any muslim in Yemen, it would not be a big surprise to learn Clinton influenced the ROE.

Or haven’t you heard, the President of the United State is the Command in Chief of the military.

81,

“How about we just tax all lawyers named after cartoon characters. Commentby Truth2006— 11/5/06@ 3:46 pm

How about if you pay the same taxes I do for starters. “

How much do you pay in taxes vs how much you make. I seem to recall some baosting on your part about huge stock gains. And hell you are a lawyer, so that means you did something nasty to get your ill gotten gain. Or did you lie when you claimed you were a lawyer?

And for the record Retard Rabbit, in both WWI and WWII the country was drug into war by Democrats who never served in the military.

Is anyone really surprised anymore at the depths the Democrats will go to help the terrorists? First they want them to have “OJ” trials and now we learn that Democrats have been leaking national intelligence secrets.

But then again, given that their party officials are crooks that violate campaign laws , trade crack cocaine for fraudulent votes and buy off voters to steal elections.

Is there no depth to which they will not sink???

Of course, that should be “could you…”

Dear Terrorist Moooooooooooooslims and illegal aliens, NO!! YOU MAY NOT VOTE!!!!! Border Patrol with big attack dogs and the MinuteMen will be at EVERY poll!!! In addition, Democrat blacks in Milwaukee who destroy Republican vans tonight will be arrested and will lose their “guvment” checks!!!!