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When the Takers and Layabouts vote to steal the money of The Producers, The Producers shall rise up and supress those who seek to take what they have not earned and do not deserve.
When pigment and plumbing become more important than merit and character, The Producers shall rise up and demand a return to justice and fairness.
When faith and gullibility replace science and reason, The Producers shall shout down those who seek to impose their religion on the rest of us.
So sayeth the Redneck One…
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The only thing you “produce” is hydrogen sulfide.
On this, our country’s 228th anniversary, let us all remember this great nation was founded by LIBERALS who understand that our best safeguard against tyranny is SEPARATION OF POWERS and the BILL OF RIGHTS including the right to DUE PROCESS and to be secure from UNREASONABLE SEARCHES WITHOUT WARRANT.
We could cut our energy imports in half if someone could figure out how to capture all the methane emanating from Redneck’s behind.
Rabbit – Name one person who has been “victimized” by any of your bullshit@ 4. For example, if GWB wanted to fuck with somebody, wouldn’t he pick some kook like Cindy Sheehan or a few of the hollywood wackos? Have any of them been subject to any violation of their civil rights?
So stop making stoopid fucking assertions without backing. GWB is protecting us from MOOSLIM terrorists who would kill all of us if they could.
Redneck was victimized by love, poor thing. His Muslim terrorist father taught him that woman are inanimate sex objects with no thoughts or feelings of their own. He still doesn’t understand why his arranged marriage failed — he couldn’t believe his ears when his ex said “I divorce you” three times and walked out. He would have stoned her if she hadn’t overdosed on crack. Mark is culturally confused; in his heart, he really wants to be a woman-hating Muslim terrorist, but being a Republican is the next best thing, because Republicans look down on women and hate nearly everybody.
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Your labeling of SEPARATION OF POWERS and the BILL OF RIGHTS and DUE PROCESS as “bullshit” lays your beliefs right on the table, doesn’t it?
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“So stop making stoopid fucking assertions without backing”
What assertions did I make @4 Mark? Aren’t you reading some things into my post that aren’t actually there? Perhaps a guilty conscience is bothering you?
All I said @4 is American was founded by LIBERALS who created a system of government based on SEPARATION OF POWERS and supported the BILL OF RIGHTS.
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You got a problem with SEPARATION OF POWERS or the BILL OF RIGHTS, Rakeface?
Mark — not to put too fine a point on it, but exactly what do you “produce”?
Tom Feeney is a Republican congressman from Florida who was Jeb Bush’s 1994 running mate for Florida governor, and who, as Speaker of the Florida House, acquired national notoriety by saying he would defy the Florida Supreme Court and choose presidential electors for George W. Bush regardless of whether a court-ordered recount showed that Gore won Florida.
On December 6th, 2004, Brad Blog published a sworn affidavit by Florida software programmer Clint Curtis, who alleged in the affidavit and sworn testimony before Congress that Feeney asked him to design a “vote-rigging software prototype” at a meeting in October 2000 at Yang Enterprises, Inc. (YEI), a Florida computer consulting firm. Curtis had worked for YEI as a programmer, and Feeney was YEI’s general counsel and lobbyist.
“Curtis, a life-long Republican up until then, had been a programmer at YEI, which had several top-secret clearance contracts with the state, NASA and other government agencies. Curtis’ understanding at the time was that the prototype … was to address Feeney’s concerns that the Democrats might attempt to electronically rig the election and Feeney wanted to know what to look out for in that event. After informing YEI CEO Mrs. Li-Woan Yang that he would not be able to hide the vote-flipping routines in the software source-code as Feeney had requested, … Mrs. Yang informed him that the program was needed to ‘rig the vote in South Florida’.”
The Feeney-YEI story goes deeper than vote-tampering software, though. YEI had NASA contracts, and Curtis claimed in his affidavit that YEI employed a Chinese illegal alien who inserted wire-tapping modules into sensitive database programs, who has since been indicted and pleaded guilty to espionage. In addition, Mrs. Yang’s brother was a deported Chinese spy.
Although national media largely ignored the YEI espionage – vote tampering story, local Florida newspapers picked it up. For Brad Blog’s account, see http://www.bradblog.com/ClintCurtisSummary.htm
12 – I produce “services” used in the creation of “wealth”.
“Various people have investigated Curtis’ claims, including Rep. John Conyers, Sen. Bill Nelson, the FBI, and CREW.
“Raymond C. Lemme, a Florida DOT investigator, spent about a year investigating and told Curtis that he ‘had tracked the corruption “all the way to the top” … two weeks before his unexpected death on June 30, 2003, an apparent suicide in a town located 80 miles from where he resided.
“On March 3, 2005, Curtis took a polygraph test. The test was given by Tim Robinson, the retired chief polygraph operator and 20-year veteran of the Florida Department of Law Enforcement. The test did not detect any attempt at deception on the part of Curtis in any of his responses. The test was based on all the allegations in the affidavit that was provided to several members of Congress.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clint_Curtis
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“12 – I produce ‘services’ used in the creation of ‘wealth’.” Commentby Mark The Redneck Kennedy— 7/4/06@ 6:39 pm
Aha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha … so you DON’T produce anything! I thought so.
As long as Mark the Retarded Redneck is a deadbeat he has no standing on HA. As long as Mark the Retarded Redneck is a deadbeat he has no standing on HA. As long as Mark the Retarded Redneck is a deadbeat he has no standing on HA. As long as Mark the Retarded Redneck is a deadbeat he has no standing on HA. As long as Mark the Retarded Redneck is a deadbeat he has no standing on HA. As long as Mark the Retarded Redneck is a deadbeat he has no standing on HA. As long as Mark the Retarded Redneck is a deadbeat he has no standing on HA.As long as Mark the Retarded Redneck is a deadbeat he has no standing on HA. As long as Mark the Retarded Redneck is a deadbeat he has no standing on HA. As long as Mark the Retarded Redneck is a deadbeat he has no standing on HA. As long as Mark the Retarded Redneck is a deadbeat he has no standing on HA. As long as Mark the Retarded Redneck is a deadbeat he has no standing on HA. As long as Mark the Retarded Redneck is a deadbeat he has no standing on HA. As long as Mark the Retarded Redneck is a deadbeat he has no standing on HA.
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It would appear that Redneck is one of those leeches who doesn’t produce anything but just adds “handling charges” to the cost of everything we buy — like bankers, brokers, and traders do. A fucking parasite who skims cream off milk produced by somebody else’s cow. Just as I thought.
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Hey Redneck — ambulance chasing lawyers produce services used to create wealth for their clients, too.
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I wonder if Redneck is a real estate agent who represents house flippers.
MTR-
You need to pay Goldy. Stop being a Taker, and start Producing his money.
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Or maybe he’s one of those TV infomercial guys who sell phony get-rich-quick schemes to insomniacs at 3 a.m.
Technical consulting services for foreign engineering firms. How’s that?
Far beyond anything you moonbats can even comprehend.
Redneck has yet to produce a donation of $99 to http://www.operation-helmet.org/ because he only “supports the troops” with hot air — don’t ask him for money to buy safety equipment for soldiers in combat zones.
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That’s more respectable than being a commodities trader, which is what I originally thought you were, but … you don’t “produce” anything, Mark. Sounds like a paper pushing job you got there. You can’t eat engineering reports.
If anyone has reservations about Roger Rabbits reporting Bradblogs story of l’affaire Curtis and YEI Software as paranoid fantasy. . .
I would you suggest you read At the Abyss: An Insider’s History of the Cold War, by Thomas C. Reed. He tells a cautionary tale of uncritical acceptance of software. The largest non-nuclear explosion ever recorded by satellite occurred in Russia in 1982, and was an explosion in the Siberian gas pipeline. It was caused by the CIA deliberately giving the Soviet Union modified software (in binary only format) that was engineered to destroy the pipeline.
Why is Bush such a coward? He says Iraq had WMD and that’s why we went to war with them. Despite the fact that he lied and they had no such weapons, why let N. Korea go? Why is Bush afraid of them? We KNOW they have WMD. So if it makes sense to attack Iraq because they supposedly have WMD, why not attack Iraq? I can only assume it’s because Bush is afraid. It seems like our country is suffering under the cowardice of an AWOL draft dodger and the result may be that we’re bombed into eternity because Bush has no balls.
If those rightwing asswipes had any patriotism, they would practice eating hot dogs. A Japanese guy won the world hot dog eating contest at CONEY ISLAND, NEW YORK today for the SIXTH STRAIGHT TIME. C’mon, you wingfucks, are you gonna let the Japs get away with this? Why aren’t you out there stuffing your faces with hotdogs! This is war! When the eating gets tough, the tough eat some more.
Commentby Roger Rabbit {…………………………….Nothing racist in this post is there? hehe, JCH Kennedy]
“If I feel like it, I’ll end my sentences a preposition with.” Commentby Roger Rabbit— 7/3/06@ 5:14 pm […………………………………………………….hehe…..Another Democrat parasite “guvment” hack who is English challenged!!!!]
Port Louis – Scientists who unearthed a mass dodo grave in Mauritius say they have found evidence showing the birds were killed by a natural disaster long before humans arrived on the Indian Ocean island. Most theories about how the dodo became extinct blame early settlers who found the plump flightless bird on the Indian Ocean island in the 16th century and hunted it relentlessly.
Well man just has to be blamed somehow. Maybe the dodos heard that Al Gore’s global warming was coming and committed mass suicide to avoid the stress.
Follow on comment: Come on. There had to be a Republican driving an SUV involved somehow.
The ideal “trusted computing” is withsoftware you have compiled yourself. . .preferably from source code of your own production. However, this standard is too rigorous for most of us, so you could accept source code you have thoroughly ‘vetted and then compiled yourself.
Again, this standard is perhaps too rigorous. So a good general compromise would be the implementation of open source software (in the most pertinent example ) for voting recording and tabulation.
This by itself cannot prevent voter fraud, but would serve as a forensic measure after the fact to establish whether a fraud had been perpetrated through the software by examining the binary code actually employed with the “trusted” open source code it was derived from. . .code openly available to the public and readily scrutinized for bugs and hidden malicious code.
Dear MTR, RUFUS, PROUD, and Dan Rather Kennedys, Hope you have a great All American weekend. Remember, we do as we wish, and the dumb ass Democrats vote for us in EVERY election. Even Goldystein and Roger Rabbit sucks up to the Kennedys. hehe, JCH Kennedy
By the way, did you Cons hear that the CIA disbanded its intelligence unit taked with the mission of finding bin Laden and his top deputies? I thought that “GWB is protecting us from MOOSLIM terrorists who would kill all of us if they could.” How’s that gonna help?
Really, Cons, you’ve gotta help me here — you all seem so sure that you are in sole possession of the “Truth” of practically any manner, so do us a public service and enlighten a few of us “libruls” as to exactly how GWB is keeping them “MOOSLIM terrorists” away?
Tree Frog Farmer, “It’s who counts the votes”. Joe Stalin and Hillary Clinton
“Why is Bush such a coward? He says Iraq had WMD and that’s why we went to war with them. Despite the fact that he lied and they had no such weapons”
Commentby LeftTurn
[……………………..Didn’t we just find 500 chem shells in Iraq? If they are totally hameless you won’t mind having them stored in your basement, will you?] hehe, JCH Kennedy
This is the core of the thrust by Bev Harris and others to employ only open source software to replace “captive” proprietary, binary only software such as employed in the Sequoia, ES&S and Diebold machines.
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We’ll see how well your “philosophy” works in Mexico.
As to the practicality of such an endeavor. . .it has already been established. Open Source programmers were provided with several “hulk” voting machines (I think they were ES&S) by an election official who said they had been retired in favor of newer models. They have aready provided basic voting functionality on those machines.
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“Nothing racist in this post is there? hehe, JCH Kennedy]” Commentby REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX]— 7/4/06@ 7:14 pm
Of course it’s racist! Any time one of us liberals writes satire trying to sound like a wingfuck, it comes across as racist, because wingfucks ARE racist! My satarical post attempts to combine TWO key elements of wingnutism — racism AND xenophobia. You’ll need your dictionary for that one, dude.
Mark the Retardo is a classic example of a slide-rule guy who knows all kinds of fancy math, but never took any course in humanities, literature, political science, or history and doesn’t know a fucking thing about what government is for, much less how to run one.
Once again. I ask the simple question. If you’re completely stupid and want to believe that Iraq had WMD why would you not immediately call for us to attack a country that actually can and does threaten us? Don’t you righties have to admit that Bush is a coward for letting N. Korea brag about actual WMD that Saddam never had? Come on fellows, what’s up? Why the free pass? Why is it okay for N. Korea to have real WMD and not okay for Iraq to have fake WMD?
Mark the Redneck @ 24:
Please do not disclose your ties to the agency. If you do, we will have to take action.
We launched our missle today at you cowardly Americans. Your impotent leader (or is it talk show host we get confused) can do nothing to stop us. He attacked Saddam because he knew Saddam couldn’t fight back. Brokeback Bush is afraid of us. He was a coward who would not fight in the war America led against Viet Nam and Bush is a coward again today, afraid of us. Bush bows down to our might. He makes up stories about WMD in Iraq to justify a war for oil. We tell him we have WMD and dare him to do something about it and he hides like a worried little dog. You are all cowards for supporting this timid little girl for your president!
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Form the “Learning from our neighbors to the South” thread:
Rabbit @ 44 – My employer is engaged in a very large offshore outsourcing project. My job is to make sure international suppliers are successful. Commentby Mark The Redneck Kennedy— 7/1/06@ 9:27 pm
Then #24 here
Technical consulting services for foreign engineering firms. How’s that? Commentby Mark The Redneck Kennedy— 7/4/06@ 6:54 pm
Sounds to me like MTR is a stateside hatchet man shutting down engineering operations here and transfering moving them to cheap labor markets in places like India, and Pakistan. Maybe things like software engineering.
“Technically minded immigrant labor, particularly from China, Pakistan, and India, will work for far less than U.S. citizens when a potential green card is part of their employment package. Now that Congress is being told by information systems giants like Intel and Microsoft that foreign IT worker quotas must be increased to assure a flow of new program and network administrators, unorganized American computer specialists will be more amenable to bargaining. The Wall Street Journal recently discussed how high-technology companies have asked for an exception to immigrant quota levels to permit more foreign IT workers into the country. Intel’s president, Craig Barrett, contends that if federal limits on technical immigrant personnel remain at current levels, “the talent will go where the opportunities are, even if that is offshore.” Indeed, Business Week’s chief economist, William Wolman, similarly discovered with co-author Anne Colamosca in their new book The Judas Economy that when capital learns that it can outsource for computer programmers and code writers in Beijing and New Delhi at one-third the wage of similarly skilled U.S. IT workers, stockholders will demand that capital fly to China and India. Not long will the remaining community of civilian and military technologists at DoD have to wait until this strain of outsourcing visits them.
From: Outsourcing and Privatizing Information Technology
Re-examining the “Savings” by J. Michael Brower
The Judas Economy, yeah, that’s just the kind I’d expect fuckneck to be involved in. It suits him to a “T”.
There are obvious security drawbacks to outsourcing software. Within the worled of binary-only software, there, essentially, is no such thing as trusted computing.
The CIA, in co-operation with the NSA, has developed SELinux developed by their own in house programmers. They have graciously released this distribution freely, and complete with source code so anyone can operate a reasonably secure computing environment. To date, scrutiny of the source code has not revealed any malware, hidden trap doors, or keyholes in this distribution. This appears to be a good faith offering. It is in an almost alternate universe fromproprietary operating systems, such as the various windows offerings from Redmond.
It was with some amusement that members of the Open Source Community watched news of the meeting between Hu Jintao and Bill Gates. Hu Jintao announced that he used Mr. Gates operating system, and Gates laughingly offered him to provide personal tech support.
It has been postulated that the US government could ‘politely’ ask a US software vendor to insert various software exploits in to the binary images that are sold oversea (or domestically for that matter). It’s also been laughingly suggested that there would be no need with the various flavors of Windows, since there are so many known security flaws.
Yes this is a good question. Why aren’t the righties demanding that Bush attack N. Korea. Since reason number 1,938 for the war in Iraq was WMD, why wouldn’t REAL WMD in N. Korea be cause for war too? Is Bush afraid? See what happens when you allow an AWOL draft dodger to get control of the White House?
And if you righties want to pretend that 30 year old mustard gas is the WMD that was an “immediate threat” to the USA, how do you classify multi-megaton nuclear war heads that can be delivered to the coastal USA by a rogue regime? Still waiting for an answer?
As an added element to fuel paranoia: There is no guarantee that the binary image of an operating system you have purchased has any close relationship the source code (assuming it has been provided or is available) unless you have compiled it yourself with a trusted compiler .
Perhaps the North Koreans are using command and control software for their missile systems derived from available American RTOS systems?
I think, with a little contemplation, you can see that there is a very serious subtext to the current conflict between the EU and Micro$oft. They are attempting to force Redmond to disgorge proprietary code governing the operation of Windows Servers (of various flavors) to ensure the seamless and secure operations of various other operating systems (Solaris, the various BSD’s, Linux, and the Unices) with various Windows Servers. There is National Security Component for any EU
country in this dispute.
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Roger
You should post all sides of a ‘story’ but since you did not, your credibility is only that of a delusional ignorant person.
http://www.wired.com/news/evot.....02,00.html
Where are all the righties hiding? Why are the cowards spreading their legs for North Korea? Why aren’t they demanding that Baby Bush bomb N. Korea? N. Korea PROMISES they have WMD. If it was good enough reason to attack Iraq? Why not N. Korea?
You can just hear the righties furiously typing emails to LimpDickLimbaugh asking him how they should respond to this obvious run of hypocrites.
…that they are endowed by their Creator…
Goldy aren’t you a member of the party that hates God and Christianity? So for you to put the DoI on this blog must have been a painful experience. Or maybe you are taking Barack Obama’s advice and reaching out to Conservative Christians. Naah, I know it’s not really your style and your heart wouldn’t be in it!!!
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Tree Frog Farmer…
I totally agree with you that all source code for any voting machine should be totally open source. It is all too easy to create a root kit that is undetectable in a running machine. After every election, each and every machine should be taken offline and examined by a joint team so they can be certified as having only unaltered code.
Brother MTR Kennedy: As I sit here after a nice neighborhood party on this 4th of July I count my BLESSINGS. It’s sure amazing how we as producers place what we do for a living on ASSes and how God has blessed us and the only thing we know about any moonbat here are:
dj – university perfessor
Dr E – unoversity professor
Rabbit Pellet – retired guvmint hack attorney.
jsa – roving consultant in Canada
donnageddon – ex-environmental chemist, user of compuer technology
headuptheass loocy – wrestling coach, waster of Seattle School Budget.
The rest of these moonbats can’t touch us with their “jobs” yet they try and ridicule us on how we make money. They are consumers.
Moonbats I already told you how I worked on 26 weeks and made over $170K as a consultant. WTF do you do to spew such vitriol against brothers Mark, Pat, JCH, Rufus, Dan, Myself and Sister Howcan? You have nothing, again NOTHING you can put up against us who make a living and do well because we RELY ON GOD first to lead us through this morass of librul bullshit! When you put God first he opens the windows of heaven. You moonbats put secular humanity first and wonder why you eek out an existence. Eek on moombats.
LeftTurd: I seem to remember that Bill CLinton, Jimmy Cahhrrrter, and Madeline Halfbright said the North Koreans were not a nuclear threat. What happened? They developed this technology under their watch and now we have to clean it up. So while he was sniffing cigars, the NK were making the world a worse place. Thanks again moonbats!!!
Then again other lies from Turd breath:
1.) Rush Limbaugh pees in a cup every day
2.) Preston Bush was a Nazi
Truths about Turd Breath:
1.) Drinks from Rush’s piss cup
2.) Believes in the Socialist agenda
3.) Has issues with reality
4.) Speaks from his asshole so he has a shitty view of life
BTW Turd Breath Saddam’s own tapes give him away!!!
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Ar.....p?ID=21774
So keep dreaming Turd Breath!!!!
Hey Turd Breath here is more your Daily Kos moonbat overlook:
http://www.floppingaces.net/20.....wmd-facts/
“There’s more. Indeed, as late as 2000, Saddam can be heard in his office talking with Iraqi scientists about his ongoing plans to build a nuclear device. At one point, he discusses Iraq’s plasma uranium program something that was missed entirely by U.N. weapons inspectors combing Iraq for WMD.
This is particularly troubling, since it indicates an active, ongoing attempt by Saddam to build an Iraqi nuclear bomb.
“What was most disturbing,” said John Tierney, the ex- FBI agent who translated the tapes, “was the fact that the individuals briefing Saddam were totally unknown to the U.N. Special Commission (or UNSCOM, the group set up to look into Iraq’s WMD programs).”
Perhaps most chillingly, the tapes record Iraq Foreign Minister Tariq Aziz talking about how easy it would be to set off a WMD in Washington. The comments come shortly after Saddam muses about using “proxies” in a terror attack.”
Matthew 19:16-30
16 And, behold, one came and said to him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
17 And he said to him, why do you call you me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if you will enter into life, keep the commandments.
18 he says to him, Which? Jesus said, you shall do no murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal, you shall not bear false witness,
19 Honour your father and your mother: and, you shall love your neighbour as thyself.
20 The young man says to him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?
21 Jesus said to him, If you will be perfect, go and sell that you have, and give to the poor, and you shall have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.
23 Then said Jesus to his disciples, Verily I say to you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.
24 And again I say to you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
25 When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved?
26 But Jesus beheld them, and said to them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
27 Then answered Peter and said to him, Behold, we have forsaken all, and followed you; what shall we have therefore?
28 And Jesus said to them, Verily I say to you, That you which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, you also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
29 And every one that has forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name’s sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.
30 But many that are first shall be last; and the last shall be first.
This is a sad day for the lefties. Dont worry May 1 is less than 10 months away.
You see leftturdy breath, I read, voraciously. Add I have a pretty good memory, so when you spout off your leftist moonbat librul Kos points All I nve to do is look at my cache queue. Yes it’s huge. If it’s not there I just go back to where I remember it should be.
Ohhh yes another lie from leftturd breath:
3.) Gore didn’t the 2000 late arriving veterans vote count lawsuit in Florida
BTW dj – I researched making my own blog. Instead I’ll keep refuting the librul lies with URLs that have truths in them. Not the ring of truth like that from leftturdy breath!
Harry Mummified Tuttle: Who said I was rich? All I said was God has blessed me. I love it when a librul God-hating moonbat spouts off using the Bible as his prooftext.
Malachi 3:
Mal 3:7 Even from the days of your fathers ye are gone away from mine ordinances, and have not kept [them]. Return unto me, and I will return unto you, saith the LORD of hosts. But ye said, Wherein shall we return?
Mal 3:8 Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.
Mal 3:9 Ye [are] cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, [even] this whole nation.
Mal 3:10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that [there shall] not [be room] enough [to receive it].
Mal 3:11 And I will rebuke the devourer for your sakes, and he shall not destroy the fruits of your ground; neither shall your vine cast her fruit before the time in the field, saith the LORD of hosts.
Mal 3:12 And all nations shall call you blessed: for ye shall be a delightsome land, saith the LORD of hosts.
When has a moonbat paid tithe? They run away from their local churches. I ask you moonbats when did you last go to church? If so did you pay tithe. If so did you pay a worthwhile offering? If so does your church support donkoinfanticide?
Inquiring minds want to know!!!
It would appear that Redneck is one of those leeches who doesn’t produce anything but just adds “handling charges” to the cost of everything we buy – like bankers, brokers, and traders do. A fucking parasite who skims cream off milk produced by somebody else’s cow. Just as I thought.
Commentby Roger Rabbit— 7/4/06@ 6:51 pm
Coming from a guvmint hack lawyer….. the worst of the parasites. geeeesh
Come on leftturdy, spew more worthlessness out your asshole. We need more of your shitty disposition so we can crack up laughing at your librul lies!!!!
Ted Stevens, Senator for Alaska, explaining why he voted against “net neutrality”:
“But this service isn’t going to go through the internet and what you do is you just go to a place on But this service isn’t going to go through the internet and what you do is you just go to a place on the internet and you order your movie and guess what you can order ten of them delivered to you and the delivery charge is free.
Ten of them streaming across that internet and what happens to your own personal internet?
I just the other day got, an internet was sent by my staff at 10 o’clock in the morning on Friday and I just got it yesterday. Why?
the internet and you order your movie and guess what you can order ten of them delivered to you and the delivery charge is free.
Ten of them streaming across that internet and what happens to your own personal internet?
I just the other day got, an internet was sent by my staff at 10 o’clock in the morning on Friday and I just got it yesterday. Why?”
Um, Senator, perhaps your ‘Internet” got tired and took a nap. . . . . . . . . .
64, RR, Wow! As a “guvment” hack who couldn’t make it in the private sector, you sure talk trash!!
Brother Pat: That’s all Rabbit Pellet can do is talk trash! And he posts his trash in ten straight posts. I could do the same thing. Just open up 10 windows, answer each with an attack and then hit every eight to ten seconds.
I guess you can’t place ENTER within brackets. “<>“. IT should have read then hit ENTER every eight to ten seconds.
Brothers Mark, Pat, JCH, Rufus, Dan, and Sister Howcan: I hope your fourth was good. I didn’t get a chance to rape, pillage, get drunk and kill someone, screw a teenager and use a golf club to kill her, bitch slap someone, or get drunk and hit a police car. I hope your 4th was a great remembrance on how God helped bring our mighty nation into existence and how God keeps us going every day. Oh God, send us your Holy Spirit so we can continue to decipher the librul horse manure on ASSes!!! AMEN!!
So it’s okay with Puddybutt that N. Korea has made us into the laughing stock of the world. It’s okay with the right that Bush is afraid of N. Korea. I see it all now. WMD is a big problem except when it isn’t!
So it’s okay with Puddybutt that N. Korea has made us into the laughing stock of the world. It’s okay with the right that Bush is afraid of N. Korea. I see it all now. WMD is a big problem except when it isn’t!
Courage Puddy, courage.
So Rummed up Rummy said we went to war with Iraq because they had WMD. Here’s the link…
http://www.infowars.net/Pages/Jul05/030705WMD.html
No why, if we were willing to attack Iraq over POTENTIAL WMD, are we allowing N. Korea to treat us like bitches?
Come on righties, where’s the outrage?
Yes, by all means tell us righties, why not attack North Korea? It looks like LT is right. Bush is afraid. Your fearless leader isn’t so fearless is he righties?
Where is Jimmy Carter when you need him….. wait never mind.
Have the chickens become hawks?? Nah they’re donks.
Wow look at leftturdy breath reach now: “So it’s okay with Puddybutt that N. Korea has made us into the laughing stock of the world. It’s okay with the right that Bush is afraid of N. Korea. I see it all now. WMD is a big problem except when it isn’t! Commentby LeftTurn— 7/4/06@ 11:28 pm”
Turdbreath: Did you read the Chinese told Kim Il Soon to kool it? “Mr. Bush also said Monday he is pleased China has conveyed a message to Pyongyang that any launch would seen as provocative”
WTF Turdbreath. You guy made the mess now we have to get help from the Chinese to stop it. But always remember Leftturdy, Clinton gave the Chinese improved telemetry so they can now hit Seattle, the land of the moonbats with improved accuracy. Remember Bernie Schwartz CEO of Loral baby! He padded Clinton’s reelection coffers in 1996. I just love shoveling facts up LEfttirdy’s asshole!!!!!
More LEftturdy: are we allowing N. Korea to treat us like bitches? Come on righties, where’s the outrage? Commentby LeftTurn— 7/4/06@ 11:33 pm
No leftturdy: NK treated your party like bitches!!! Bitch Clinton, Bitch Cahhrrrter, and Bitch Halfbright!
why not attack North Korea? Commentby RightEqualsStupid— 7/4/06@ 11:34 pm
Sign up for it YesIAmStupid! Be the first. Get into your dinghy and travel the ocean and launch an attack. I’m sure you’ll do well YesIAmStupid!
Leftturdy and YEsIAmStupid: read all about Bernie Schwartz and Loral. It’s an ASShole opener!!!
Results 1 – 10 of about 535 for Bernie Schwartz Loral Chinese
Facts, facts, facts: The enemy of the librul moonbats!
Again, it is time to laud Goldy for putting up this venue to display the Republifuck troll Bestiary in all it’s pustulent,oozing glory. No folks, in your wildest,nightmarish dreams could you imagine this cast of rightwingwhackjobs. All you have to do is visit the comments section of any Daily Open Thread on HA and you can observe first hand the shipwreck that the Republican Party has become. Watching the trolls on HA display their moral leprosy and intellectual bankruptcy.
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So now Mr. KOS doesn’t like “Proud to be an American” song.
Must be sad being a liberal. Constantly looking for reasons to be upset.
It’s finally true. The HA.ORG “Kennedys” rule this website. The RR and Left Turns are basically “progressive” communists who are ignored. We have taken command!!
Liberal hate the 4th of July. They love “Red” May Day and Jesse Jacksooooooooooon’s Birthday.
Democrat liberals hate the 4th of July. They love “Red” May Day and Jesse Jacksooooooooooon’s Birthday.
Puddybud @ 57:
Moonbats I already told you how I worked on 26 weeks and made over $170K as a consultant.
And you still feel put upon and need to state what a raw deal you’re getting out of life. You really should get out more.
Practice a little more Judeo-Christian forgiveness, charity, and modesty and a little less sanctimoniousness. You’ll feel better as a person, your personal relationships will improve, and your breath will be fresher. You may also feel less of a need to vent your spleen constantly on HA, which would be a win for all of us.
And don’t call me a moonbat again. I’m not, and you know it.
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Who said? You said:
Table HINC-05. Percent Distribution of Households, by Selected Characteristics Within Income Quintile and Top 5 Percent in 2004
[Source: U.S. Census Bureau, Current Population Survey, 2005 Annual Social and Economic Supplement. Numbers in thousands.
Households as of March of the following year. A.O.I.C. stands for alone or in combination]
Lowest Second Middle Fourth Highest Top 5
Total fifth fifth fifth fifth fifth percent
Number…………………… 113,146 22,629 22,629 22,629 22,629 22,629 5,659
Lower limit………………. (X) (X) 18,500 34,738 55,331 88,030 157,176
Thought you were a Christian, Puttybrains. My mistake.
In case you can’t tell that an income > 160K (per annum, at that) makes one rich:
http://pubdb3.census.gov/macro.....05_000.htm
87.
It’s finally true. The HA.ORG “Kennedys” rule this website.
Yup, the midnight shift the day before going back to work on a holicay weekend belongs to you.
What a (bunch of) boob(s), and not the good kind.
JSA, The only raw deal is dealing with moonbats. So you are not one. Okay of the 28 libruls here on ASSHeads 27 are moonbats and one is JSA.
Harry Mummified Brain Tuttle:
We rule because we repulse the shit spewed from the likes of leftturdy. We rule because we can archive your bullshit and prove you wrong. Get a life and a brain.
My sanctimonious charitable personality gives liberal tithes and offerings. What does your moonbat friends do?
Harry, I guess I’ll call Marc Rich and look for those off-shore loopholes. But when I stash away my coins, I will NOT be giving it to Hilary!
JSA sez: “You’ll feel better as a person, your personal relationships will improve, and your breath will be fresher.”
Hey my breath is fresh. I don’t spew worthless shit on ASSHeads from my ASShole like leftturdy! I wonder why ATJ hasn’t cum to leftturdy’s defense?
Puddy Kennedy: I forgive you. You See BS and have to respond. Libruls See the same BS and let it pass cause it’s one of their “friends” posting it no matter it’s a flat out lie!
Left Turd: I loved how you were REJECTED about Prescott Bush. Look in the ASS archives and stop being a dummy!
JSA: Join the right and you will no longer be thought of as a moonbat. Guilt by association!
Good day!
Practice a little more Judeo-Christian forgiveness, charity, and modesty and a little less sanctimoniousness.
What is there forgive? All “we” liberals have done here on HA.org is condemn right-wing incompetence, corruption and lust for power. It’s been a laugh riot if train wrecks are your idea of humor. Lately we’ve also been gaining. All signs point to a rout in November.
Charity? We’ve all been bored to death with PB tooting his horn about that.
Modesty? Incapable.
Sanctimoniousness? Asking PB to show less is like asking him to stop breathing.
re 14: Oh! So the worker produces the wealth and not the capital?
Maybe labor needs to be freed up to produce wealth?
So all night and not one inbred right wing coward would stand and face the music and tell me why WMD in a country that has no chance of attacking us is a threat worth sending thousands of US soldiers to die for but a country that actually has nukes and can use them to hit us is not a threat. The hypocrites on the right have some splanin’ to do.
I see that Baby Bush’s best pal Kenny Lay died of a “heart attack” last night. Well first of all, good riddance. The asshole deserved to die. The question is, does anyone really believe he died of a heart attack? My guess is that he was going to roll over on the Bush cabal and they had him rubbed out.
I see that the Bush cabal has finally done away with the charade that we are trying to find out where Bush family friend Osama bin Laden is. We just shut down the Osama unit. Good move Bush. Spend trillions to persecute a powerless Iraqi dictator who never did anything to us and let the guy who actually masterminded 9.11 get away scott free. If America stands for this America deserves its fate.
73: Malachi Ch. 3 has been one of my favorites for decades. I’ve paid tithes (10%) of everthing I’ve received since I was 19 years old. I’m almost 50 now. And I’m a Democrat.
Offerings and charity are given ON TOP of tithes, that’s the way I was taught. Service to others is extra – I work feeding the homeless once a month on Saturday nights, we do other projects at our church on at least a weekly basis.
By the way, reading “blessings” as material wealth is incorrect. Blessings can take many forms – family, health, friends, protection, etc. In fact, material wealth is a poor substitute for those other forms of blessings. Many people waste their entire lives trying to obtain material wealth in order to get the other blessings, only to find that “money can’t buy happiness”.
So get off your moral high-horse, I’ll bet for every tithe-paying Republican you can find a Democrat who gives just as much to one charity or another. At the same time, there are lots of BOTH Republicans and Democrats who condemn others, but don’t do squat themselves.
See BS —
Join the right and you will no longer be thought of as a moonbat.
Uh, yeah. Well, it’s like this. Political philsophy is an issue of looking at problems and finding solutions that work. I work from the basis that a more socio-economically equitable society is a healthy society. This does not mean that people shouldn’t be allowed to work hard and get rich, or that people who willfully choose to not work should be coddled by mamma stato until they die. Whether you get to that point by “right-wing” (market-driven) or “left-wing” (government driven) means is only interesting to the effect that it works.
There are some places (Hong Kong, Taiwan, and to a lesser extent, Singapore come to mind pretty quickly) where the state keeps a pretty light touch and still delivers a mobile, equitable society.
The “right” in the United States does not seem to believe this is an issue. The rich should be allowed to get fabulously rich, and the rest will take care of itself. I just don’t see a lot of evidence that this is working out so well.
Most healthy, developed industrial economies (including the ones I mentioned) use a combination of the private sector and the government to deliver wealth.
My real point is this: if I want to join a “team” and start cheering like an idiot for that team, the World Cup is going on right now. I’ll keep my mindless cheering to football and my politics broad and pragmatic thanks.
Clueless @ 102:
What is there forgive?
I was talking to Pud, but charity, forgiveness, and modesty works for lefties and righties too.
Everyone carries burdens in life. Yes, even sanctimonious consultants with six-figure salaries. If people start yelling and being short, assume they’ve had a rough day and go easy on them.
When they come online and yell and rant day after day, maybe it’s not a bad day any more. Maybe their life needs some fixing.
Hey Wingers:
Pictures of the WINGNUT TREASON PROTEST! All what? Twenty of them?
I think the grey-haired lady with the “treason is the reason poster” is ASS!
Pud @ 96:
My sanctimonious charitable personality gives liberal tithes and offerings. What does your moonbat friends do?
Time to go to work. I’ll talk with you later. Charity doesn’t just mean money by the way, and shame on you for thinking otherwise.
96.
It isn’t me who is bragging about his income. From your perspective, I’m a leech on society. Do you expect me to thithe from the meager blood I’ve sucked? (This is irony, BTW. I know you need help with expression that isn’t literal.)
I’ve revealed as much about myself as I care to on this forum. It is really quite silly for people posting under assumed names to expect anything but fantasy from the robots who read their electronic scribblings.
For one as religious as you claim to be, you seem quite ignorant that Jesus would ask why you keep any of it. You must be as he is to achieve the kingdom, and railing at people on a blog isn’t his idea of godliness.
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
Matthew 23:23
Quoting the scripture of the pharisees won’t get you
through that eye of the needle.
All signs point to a rout in November.
How freaking desperate are these people!?!
STATELINE, Nev.-A bear cub drew a crowd of spectators at a Lake Tahoe neighborhood as it munched on stolen barbecue-chicken-and-jalapeno pizza in the back seat of a vintage red Buick convertible.It also apparently washed it down with a swig of a Jack Daniel’s mixer, an Absolut vodka and tonic, and a beer taken from a cooler, the vehicle’s owner said.
Bears emulating looting New Orleans Democrat Liberals…I love it!
New Preamble to the Constitution
“We the sensible people of the United States, in an attempt to help everyone get along, restore some semblance of justice, avoid more riots, keep our nation safe, promote positive behavior, and secure the blessings of debt-free liberty to ourselves and our great-great-great-grandchildren, hereby try one more time to ordain and establish some common sense guidelines for the terminally whiny, guilt ridden, delusional, and other liberal bed-wetters. We hold these truths to be self evident: that a whole lot of people are confused by the Bill of Rights and are so dim they require a Bill of NON-Rights.”
ARTICLE I: You do not have the right to a new car, big screen TV, or any other form of wealth. More power to you if you can legally acquire them, but no one is guaranteeing anything.
ARTICLE II: You do not have the right to never be offended. This country is based on freedom, and that means freedom for everyone — not just you!
You may leave the room, turn the channel, express a different opinion, etc.; but the world is full of idiots, and probably always will be.
ARTICLE III: You do not have the right to be free from harm. If you stick a screwdriver in your eye, learn to be more careful, do not expect the tool manufacturer to make you and all your relatives independently wealthy.
ARTICLE IV: You do not have the right to free food and housing. Americans are the most charitable people to be found, and will gladly help anyone in need, but we are quickly growing weary of subsidizing generation after generation of professional couch potatoes who achieve nothing more than the creation of another generation of professional couch potatoes.! (This one is my pet peeve…get an education and go to work….don’t expect everyone else to take care of you!)
ARTICLE V: You do not have the right to free health care. That would be nice, but from the looks of public housing, we’re just not interested in public health care.
ARTICLE VI: You do not have the right to physically harm other people. If you kidnap, rape, intentionally maim, or kill someone, don’t be surprised if the rest of us want to see you fry in the electric chair.
ARTICLE VII: You do not have the right to the possessions of others. [Sorry Roger Rabbit] If you rob, cheat, or coerce away the goods or services of other citizens, don’t be surprised if the rest of us get together and lock you away in a place where you still won’t have the right to a big screen color TV or a life of leisure.
ARTICLE VIII: You do not have the right to a job. All of us sure want you to have a job, and will gladly help you along in hard times, but we expect you to take advantage of the opportunities of education and vocational training laid before you to make yourself useful. (AMEN!)
ARTICLE IX: You do not have the right to happiness. Being an American means that you have the right to PURSUE happiness, which by the way, is a lot easier if you are unencumbered by an over abundance of idiotic laws created by those of you who were confused by the Bill of Rights.
ARTICLE X: This is an English speaking country. We don’t care where you are from, English is our language. Learn it or go back to wherever you came from!
And ..lastly:
ARTICLE XI: You do not have the right to change our country’s history or heritage. This country was s founded on the belief in one true God. And yet, you are given the freedom to believe in any religion, any faith, or no faith at all; with no fear of persecution. The phrase IN GOD WE TRUST is part of our heritage and history, and if you are uncomfortable with it, TOUGH!
115.
Take that bullshit someplace else, like Uganda. If it’s supposed to be a joke, it isn’t funny.
If you’re serious, prepare for civil war.
116 – JCH’s comments are invisible to me. He can post 50 comments in a row and it’s like I don’t even see them. Not worth a second of my time to glance at them. Puddybud is fast moving into that category for me. I wish this were the case with MTR but bet-welshing is beyond the pale I guess.
A good Usenet newsreader has a “kill file” to filter out all the nuts. If only we had that for this blog.
117, Yawn. JCH Kennedy
116 – JCH’s comments are invisible to me. He can post 50 comments in a row and it’s like I don’t even see them.
Commentby For the Clueless— [……………………………………………..Er, Then why your post? hehe, JCH Kennedy]
Puddybud
“…I seem to remember that Bill CLinton, Jimmy Cahhrrrter, and Madeline Halfbright said the North Koreans were not a nuclear threat. What happened? They developed this technology under their watch and now we have to clean it up…”
So, as usual, that’s not what happened. NK had built a couple of graphite-moderated nuclear power plants that were capable of producing plutonium, and they were threatening to pull out of the NNPT and start making bombs. This was soon after Kim il-Sung had died ad his nutty kid took over. After mobilizing the US military in and around SK for an attack and drawing up plans to bomb the Yongbyon reactor, the Clinton administration persuaded NK to enter into what was called the “Agreed Framework” in 1994. Under that agreement (not a treaty):
[Wikipedia] “Terms of the pact and consequent agreements included the shutdown of the pilot Yongbyon nuclear reactor, abandoning the construction of two larger nuclear power plants, and placing of spent fuel which could have been reprocessed to create plutonium for a nuclear weapon under IAEA controls. In exchange two light water reactors would be constructed in North Korea by 2003 at a cost of $4 billion, primarily supplied by Japan and South Korea. In the interim, North Korea would be supplied with 500,000 tons of heavy fuel oil annually, at no cost, to make up for lost energy production. When the LWR plants were completed, North Korea would dismantle its other nuclear reactors and associated facilities.”
Clinton’s officials agreed to the plan only because they thought that the North Korean government would collapse before the nuclear power project was completed. Thanks again, CIA.
But the Republicans hated the agreement because no one’s ass got kicked, we just got what we wanted znd no one got hurt. Not the Republican way. So they underfunded our side of the bargain, oil supplies were delvered late or not at all, and the US dragged its feet on phasing out economic sanctions. So in 2002, the US asserted that NK was secretly enriching uranium, but produced no proof (sound familiar?), and NK denied this. In response to those US assertions and the US ceasing oil shipments (otherwise known as “breaking the agreement”), North Korea withdrew from the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, and took the spent fuel rods that had been under IAEA seal and started reprocessing them into plutonium.
The Bush administration has the answer to the mess it has made, and brilliantly the answer is the same one as in Iraq: when stuff starts going wrong, KEEP DOING WHAT YOU’RE DOING. After all, changing tactics in the face of abject faliure is weakness.
I think that Bush wants a nuclear-missile-eqipped NK so that their Missile Defense boondoggle can be kept alive.
RPK at 114:
Another example of Rove’s strategy of lies, obfuscation, and mis-direction. In a discussion regarding the death of a convicted swinder who was Bush’s friend “Kenny Boy”, now RPK is trying to blame the Democrats for a bear that broke into a car in Nevada to get at some food and beer. Silly, isn’t it?
What, the emporer has not clothes???? Look, over there, at the bear! It’s eating pizza and drinking beer! Must be a Democrat!!!!
JSA: You always provide a challenge. To you moonbats watch and learn.
1.) The moonbats say the Republicans are not the party of charity. Yet, all demographics say otherwise. Why? Where does the Faith Based initiatives come from? Moonbat? Yeah, right!!!
2.) The moonbats say I am not charitable. I will compare my last year’s charity against the 27 moonbats here. I will come out with change left over!
Faith Based Initiatives? Nice example, Puddydud. Since when did rewarding pet Talibangelist organizations with our tax dollars become “charity?”
The tithing comments are interesting. (and quite a switch from the usual filth found here). I’ve found that tithing on the gross rather than the net after taxes returns much greater than otherwise. Anyone else found that , as well?
Living in the 8th: Notice it took one whom thinks right to turn the conversation from thestandard librul moonbat filth! Don’t worry moonbats won’t answer you on that one. Rhp6033 claims to tithe and offer. Great. I am glad mommy taught you right. So what happened to you that you turned out okay (except for the politics) and the rest of your moonbatty friends don’t give a farthing?
Notice the idiot LR above in #124. I mention faith based initiatives and the fact they originate in flyover country and what does the standard moonbat do, reread #124!
You see Rph6033, in the Bible it says to him whom is given much, much is required of him. God doesn’t give the average moonbat much because He knows it will be squandered on selfish personal spending! He knows your thoughts before you think them!
“…I seem to remember that Bill CLinton, Jimmy Cahhrrrter, and Madeline Halfbright said the North Koreans were not a nuclear threat. What happened? They developed this technology under their watch and now we have to clean it up…”
Well actually, way before Mr. Clinton, Mr. Carter and Ms. Allbright , George Bush Senior did something similar:
1991
September 27, 1991: President George Bush announces the unilateral withdrawal of all naval and land-based tactical nuclear weapons deployed abroad. Approximately 100 U.S. nuclear weapons had been based in South Korea. Eight days later, Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev reciprocates.
November 8, 1991: In response to President Bush’s unilateral move, President Roh Tae Woo of South Korea announces the Declaration on the Denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula, under which South Korea promises not to produce, possess, store, deploy, or use nuclear weapons. In addition, the declaration unilaterally prohibits South Korea from possessing nuclear reprocessing or uranium enrichment facilities. These promises, if enacted, would satisfy all of North Korea’s conditions for allowing IAEA inspections of its nuclear facilities.
December 31, 1991: The two Koreas sign the South-North Joint Declaration on the Denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula. Under the declaration, both countries agree not to “test, manufacture, produce, receive, possess, store, deploy or use nuclear weapons” or to “possess nuclear reprocessing and uranium enrichment facilities.” They also agree to mutual inspections for verification.
But he and Clinton were both smart and adult enough to understand that diplomacy requires being diplomatic.
An accurate assessment and timeline of the current Bush’s failures in this regard can be found HERE
Unfortunately, the current administration two-note schoolyard “ineffectual parent” or “cowboy” games are absolutely worthless in the arena of adult diplomancy, and the people doing the fighting are taking the brunt of it.
Harry Mummified Bran Tuttle found this in his dust covered Bible: Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
Matthew 23:23
law, judgment, mercy, and faith: Things moonbats like Mummified Harry and friends try to change.
Law – Gay “Marriage” Read Leviticus and Romans
Judgment – Rewriting laws Read Exodus, Leviticus, Deuteronomy, Matthew, Romans
Mercy – Moonbats over the death of Ken Lay? Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel Then, read about the mercy of God toward Hezekiah
Faith – Faith in librul courts will change laws when the populace rejects your tenets. Mustard Seed Faith – Psalms and the 4 Gospels
Tell me Mummified: Do you know your Bible or are you just a prooftexter? I applaud your tries. Most moonbats run when the weightier things of the Bible are posted!
Zyrs: Why didn’t Clinton in the 1994 “agreement” remove the fuel rods? He let NK keep them. Those fuel rods were the basis for NK nuclear weapons now!!! BTW the Russians designed the NK facility. Look it up!
Why didn’t Clinton in the 1994 “agreement” remove the fuel rods? He let NK keep them. Those fuel rods were the basis for NK nuclear weapons now!!! BTW the Russians designed the NK facility. Look it up!
It should be obvious why he didn’t demand the fuel rods. It was obvious to me in 1994, just as it was obvious to me in 1991 why Senior Bush did things the way he did.
To state it simply, the regime in North Korea is headed by egocentric meglomaniacs who feel they are being persecuted by South Korea and the United States. The fuel rods were the only bargaining chip they could bring to the table. And, unfortunately, they saw them as proof that they were one of the “BIG BOYS” and people had to take them seriously now. You can see the same mindset in some people in every country that has nuclear weapons or materials available, including ours. Chest-thumping “do what we tell you to do or we’ll nuke you” playground antics.
Unfortunately, when you are dealing with egocentric meglomaniacs, asking them to give up their only bargaining chip will always end in disaster. Given the instability of the region at the time, war would not have been in the best interests of anyone, especially the United States.
So you bring in inspectors, lock the rods away and hope that either the regime fails or somehow the meglomaniac wakes up one morning and goes “What was I thinking?”. But while you are waiting for this, at least they don’t have access to those toys. And hopefully, talks and diplomacy can continue, getting you closer to the day when the rods will no longer be an issue.
Unfortunately, the present admin wasn’t on the ball and the point is now moot, as it impossible to lock up the rods now, thy’re in bombs.
As to the facility being built by the Russians, I read the news reports about it when it happened, so I don’t need to look it up. I’m not sure what it has to do with anything, unless you’re hoping it was better built than Chernobyl. After all, Russia, China and Pakistan were all involved in giving North Korea nuclear technology at the time.
But then, this was before the end of the Cold War, and each side was shoring up any country they thought could be an ally, no matter how worthless the leaders. It didn’t matter if those rulers were bloodthirsty tyrants, we would back them if they “weren’t communist” like we did with Saddam Hussein for a while against Iran, then the Ayatollah for a while against Iraq. Same went for China and Russia, they backed any country if it was communist, even though the rulers were bloodthirsty tyrants or ineffectual fools.
Heck, I remember when it was a felony to own anything that was manufactured in Communist China. There were no books about that country in the public library, even the stamp collector’s catalogs just had a page that read “It is a felony to own stamps from the People’s Republic of China”. Now they are a favored trade partner and we ask them for help in diplomacy and peace-keeping. How times have changed.
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