Democratic challenger Richard Wright wants Rep. Doc Hastings to step down from the chairmanship of the House Ethics Committees. Of course, Hastings won’t step down, but then what do you expect from a man who ran for office in 1994, pledging to limit himself to six terms, but is now, oops… running for his seventh.
All the Stefan supporters claim he’s only a local blogger…that’s why he doesn’t comment on national issues that are embarassing to Republicans.
His posts the past few days make that argument vacuous.
Next……
Why should Doc step down? It’s not like he every actually does anything.
Let’s see, Lush Flimbaugh is peeing in a cup today for his probation officer. Deke Cunningham is taking it up the ass from a guy named Rufas at the Federal Penn. The GOP Governor of KY is under indictment. MSNBC reports that Bush’s Brain, Rove is about to be indicted, Libby’s going away for 30 years. Bush pal Ken Lay is going away for 30 years. And that’s just the tip of the iceberg.
Man I sure am glad these right wingers restored honor and dignity to government.
JCH @ 3
We can all agree you’re a LIAR.
@ 7:
Done molesting your dog?
Get “salt water” in your eyes or something else?
You can alwayse tell how much fear one of Goldie’s posts is putting into republicans by how many words/posts JCH wastes here. Keep huffing and puffing JCH! LOL.
@11
I haven’t seen evidence that JCH actually reads the posts before be begins his cut-and-paste diarrhea.
Dick [Just a Cocksucking Hypocrite]Cheney:
Well, if it watched you, your dog would know what a homosexual, or at least, a male prostitute, is like. Still claiming to be a “sailor” to attract clients? How is your search for big black cock going?
Question of the day:
How do Republican’s justify President Bush’s latest law breaking? At least before you could try to use the war on terrorism (or, as it is known in the White House, the war we don’t do anything about other than spy on Americans). What justification do you have for Bush finding out that Puddy’s and Ms. Chickenhawk’s mothers call them every hour to see if they are ever going to leave the basement and get a job. Why should Bush care that [Just another Cocksucking Hypocrite] is constantly calling gay porn lines? How does this help us stop terrorism?
Left Turn:
Don’t forget the ever growing scandal over the phone jamming in New Hampshire in 2002 which is about to grab Ken Mehlman, GOP Chairman and (at the time) a senior Bush aid.
http://www.npr.org/templates/s.....Id=5399282
Or that several political higherups and GOP congressman are about to be shacking up with Cunningham because of Hooker-gate.
Or that Republican Senators and Congressmen are predicting several indictments of their peers with connections to Abramoff.
Or that the White House could only find two visits by Abramoff to the White House, but have already admitted that there were more, and the records have been scrubbed of all details. (Because if we know who Abramoff was visiting, the terrorist win?)
Or the HUD chief saying that he took away federal contracts from people because they dared to be critical of the President.
http://www.npr.org/templates/s.....Id=5399291
Yep, honor and dignity have returned…, if your name is Dick Nixon.
But at least the Republicans aren’t big spenders…,
Oh wait, that turned out to be a lie too.
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What’s wrong with doing nothing? Reichert doesn’t do anything, either. A GOP congressman’s JOB is to do nothing until instructed by the Rove-puppetmaster. Doc and Dave won’t even hug a rabbit without permission. Darcy can do it just because she feels like it — or because hugging a rabbit is the right thing to do.
I just saw an anti-Cantwell TV ad trotting out the shopworn GOP cliche that the “death tax” destroys family farms. In classic GOP fashion, these guys think if they repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it.
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“GBS, my dog thinks your are a homo.” Commentby Patches [JCH]Kennedy— 5/11/06@ 5:51 pm
I congratulate your dog — at least he doesn’t think having sex with a fat, bald, middle-aged white guy is normal, like your armadillo does.
“Today we march, tomorrow we vote”
WTF do you mean “tomorrow we vote”. Shit they have been illegally voting for dems for the last 20 years. Hahahahahaha
“tomorrow we vote” Bullshit. They have been cheating the system for years.
Hey Goldy…
Please delete more of jch’s posts.
I don’t care if it fucks up the numbers. Really, I don’t.
Again, it is time to laud Goldy for putting up this venue to display the Republifuck troll Bestiary in all it pustulent,oozing glory. No folks, in your wildest,nightmarish bad pizza dreams could you imagine this cast of rightwingwhackjobs. All you have to do is visit the comments section of any Daily Open Thread on HA and you can observe first hand the shipwreck that the Republican Party has become.
If the daily news doesn’t make you a flaming liberal, watching the trolls on HA display their moral leprosy and intellectual bankruptcy will.
I think deleting them would be just like ignoring paid sig gatherers for Eyman. A good thing. But that isn’t Goldy’s method and I am good with that. The couple trolls I have had on the east side have been slammed down so hard they saw stars. Some of these are obviously on a payroll.
I just skip them and move to any discussion i can find. Much beter that way and less gore rising.
Speaking of children who never got enough attention from their mothers I give you JCH. I know it’s hard to imagine you having a mother, JCH, but really, try to address some of your ‘issues’.
No folks, in your wildest,nightmarish bad pizza dreams could you imagine this cast of…..
Commentby Tree Frog Farmer— 5/11/06@ 7:39 pm
Hmmmmm pizza dreams….liberals. Well we know that liberals like to dream of Jewish children blown to pieces in a pizzaria. Of course that wouldn’t be a nightmare …… hmmmm.
President Bush’s approval is now at record levels and has crossed a new threshold:
http://www.washtimes.com/upi/2.....-1835r.htm
30 and 31:
One compromise that could be implemented immediately and without any new technology would be if Goldy created a thread or two a week that was “weeded” of stupid troll tricks. The intro to the thread(s) would make it very clear that flamers will be deleted. Perhaps the mere threat would reduce the incidence of off-topic trolling. If not, let the weeding begin!
This shouldn’t be much of a choir for Goldy. He could weed whenever, and commenters could help out with a short comment, e.g., “No. 25 JCH — Weed! ” Then ignore the troll (at least on this thread.)
This would take a bit of discipline on the part of some of us who like to mix it up with trolls. Nothing would stop us from continuing to do that — as long as we “take it outside” to another thread.
In the absence of some kind of change to the comments section, Goldy is going to eventually lose all but the hardened “fight club” personalities among his regular readership.
Catch this one- Bushies staling files from the Regan Presidential archive:
http://www.slate.com/id/2141672/entry/0/
Last summer, during the pre-confirmation body-cavity search of Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts, a Roberts-related file at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library went missing. The file was marked “affirmative action” and presumably contained something on that topic written by Roberts—who is known to be extremely hostile to affirmative action—when he worked in the Reagan White House counsel’s office. Although the file disappeared after a White House employee and two assistants vetted the Roberts-related files….
Ooops- Stealing from Reagan
Green Thumb @ 35
Goldy isn’t doing too bad on his patronage. Site meter says an average of 4,793 visitors per day and 10,708 page views.
WHOOPS — those are actually the statistics for Stefan. Goldy has a daily average of 2,040 visitors and 3,553 page views.
Still, not too bad. Looks like Hurricane Katrina basically doubled Goldy’s patronage, with the Mike Brown affair making him nationally known:
http://www.sitemeter.com/?a=st.....&r=33
You have to love the republican mindset. So let me see if I understand Pope-A-Dope. He would argue that Steffy’s site has more traffic so therefore, the republican way is the right way?
Well Pope-A-Dope, back in the 1100s, a vast majority of the planet’s people thought the world was flat, didn’t make it true.
Time to celebrate! http://americablog.blogspot.co.....-poll.html
Bush trying to tie Trickie Dickie for lowest approvals ever. Now below 30%! Way to go wingers. You’re efforts have managed to convice America that the cowardly Bush is even LESS popular than last week. Keep it up! HE HE!
HARVARD STUDY: MOST MALPRACTICE LAWSUITS JUSTIFIED
Newly released results of a study by the Harvard School of Public Health reveals that substantially less than half — only about 40% — of malpractice claims filed in the U.S. are baseless. Most of these are quickly dismissed, with only a few resulting in payouts.
“The study’s lead researcher, David Studdert of the Harvard School of Public Health, said the findings challenge the view among tort reform supporters that the legal system is riddled with frivolous claims that lead to exorbitant payouts. ‘We found the system did reasonably well in sorting the good claims from the bad ones, but there were problems,’ he said.”
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/s.....TE=DEFAULT
This study adds one more piece of evidence to a swelling body of evidence that assertions by anti-consumer partisans that doctors are being deluged by bogus lawsuits are a myth.
The tort immunity sought by doctors is analogous to Lexus drivers demanding tort immunity on the grounds their car payments are higher so they are less able to afford car insurance, and because people who can afford a status symbol like a Lexus are special people who should be able to run over pedestrians without consequences.
Competent doctors who provide proper patients care are no more vulnerable to frivolous lawsuits than the population at large. Do frivolous lawsuits occur? Sure, there’s always some aggressive lawyers with golddigging clients, just as there is in every other field of human activity. But that’s not a reason to throw out the baby with the bath water.
In fact, doctors probably are less vulnerable to lawsuits than most of us, because malpractice suits are difficult and expensive, and most of this litigation is handled by well-heeled specialist law firms who carefully screen cases to avoid making heavy financial investments in those with shaky prospects of producing a verdict and fee. These firms typically employ medical professionals on their staffs to help them screen out inappropriate or weak cases. I recall reading a few years ago that one Seattle law firm specializing in plaintiff’s medical malpractice work accepts roughly 1 of every 100 referrals it receives. The vast majority of patients who contact a law firm because they’re unhappy with their doctors are told to go home after the initial review of their complaint is completed.
A related myth perpetrated by the anti-consumerists is the false notion that negligently injured patients reap financial windfalls from malpractice awards. They use emotional arguments to sway an uninformed public and mask the realities of malpractice awards. They especially like to capitalize on the rare case involving a large jury verdict that hits the media — never mentioning those victims are going to have large ongoing medical expenses, have been deprived of their ability to earn a living, and will be disabled for the rest of their lives. For example, in big-money injury and malpractice cases, the victim often will require expensive round-the-clock nursing home or personal attendant care for the rest of their lives. Many quadriplegics, for example, can’t do anything for themselves and need 24-hour attendant care — that costs a lot of money. Power wheelchairs, specially equipped vans, extensive home modifications to accomodate mobility equipment, all the equipment a disabled person needs — none of it is cheap.
The argument that careless doctors should get a free pass, and these costs should be dumped on taxpayers (or the victim left to rot on a curb), so careless doctors won’t be driven from practicing medicine by high insurance costs is just plain absurd.
It’s also terribly unfair to the victims of their bad day at work.
President Bush’s approval has reached a record level!
http://www.washtimes.com/upi/2.....-1835r.htm
President Bush’s approval ratings are no longer hovering in the 30’s!
http://www.washtimes.com/upi/2.....-1835r.htm
We democrats have to stop the NSA. I know my brother Bobby wire tapped MLK back in the 60’s but we are Kennedys and we can get away with murder. Stop terrorist abuse, stop the NSA.
Whoa…. Forget Marching… “today we drive, tomorrow we vote”
Now let’s look at a case the horn-tooters for so-called “tort reform” used as a “poster boy” — the McDonald’s coffee burn case — Liebeck v. McDonald’s Corp.
The accident occurred at a McDonald’s outlet in Albuquerque, N.M., that routinely heated its coffee to a higher temperature than restaurant industry standards (190 degrees v. 160 degrees) and ignored complaints and warnings. In the 10 years preceding Liebeck’s accident, McDonald’s had received over 700 complaints about its ultra-hot coffee, a number of injuries had resulted, and the company had been sued several times; but McDonald’s made a business decision that it made more profit by selling hotter coffee. In other words, McDonald’s customers were exposed to a great risk of burn injury than restaurant patrons generally because McDonald’s decided it was profitable to make them take that risk.
The Liebeck case evolved into urban legend, and many misstatements of fact circulated as the story was retold many times over. In some versions, Liebeck was portrayed as trying to drive away from the McDonald’s while gripping the coffee cup between her knees. The facts are that Liebeck was a passenger, not the driver, and the car was parked, not moving, when the accident occurred.,
Liebeck, who was 79 at the time, suffered third-degree burns over 16 percent of her body, required extensive skin grafts, and ongoing medical care for over two years. McDonald’s offered her a settlement of $800.
The anti-plaintiff shills often portray Liebeck as having been awarded “millions of dollars.” In fact, Liebeck received far less than 1 million dollars. The jury awarded $200,000 in compensatory damages, but found Liebeck’s 20% comparatively negligent, so the actual jury award for personal injury was $160,000. The jury also awarded $2.7 million in punitive damages, but the trial judge reduced this to $480,000. Liebeck and McDonald’s ultimately reached a confidential settlement which is believed to be close to the trial verdict. Thus, Liebeck probably got less than $400,000 after paying her attorneys, medical expenses, and trial costs.
That’s still a lot of money, and three-fourths of it is punitive damages, so let’s examine what punitive damages are, and what they’re for. Many jurisdictions — including Washington — do not allow punitive damages at all in personal injury cases. In those jurisdictions that do (this decision is made by the respective state legislatures), the purpose of punitive damages is to (a) compensate victims extra for especially outrageous or egregious conduct by the defendent, and (b) modify the behavior of the defendant (and other potential defendants tempted to behave similarly) by creating financial disincentives to continue the behavior. Punitive damages are most likely to be awarded when the defendant’s conduct is unusually dangerous, is a course of conduct that has continued over a period of time as opposed to an isolated incident, and the defendant knew its conduct was dangerous and willfully ignored the danger or ignored warnings.
Accordingly, consistent with the law of punitive damages and the judge’s jury instructions, the jury in the Liebeck case determined the punitive damage award with reference to what it would take to get McDonald’s to stop overheating its coffee, rather than how much Liebeck suffered or what her medical expenses cost. And to put this in perspective, the jury’s $2.7 million award represented ONE DAY of McDonald’s profits from coffee sales in its operations worldwide. As the judge reduced the punitive damages to $480,000, the actual punitive damage award amounted to the profits McDonald’s Corp. made from its coffee sales profits every 4 1/4 HOURS. The final, out-of-court settlement probably was for even less than that. In all likelihood, the punitive damage award failed to have any deterrent effect on McDonald’s. It certainly wasn’t much of a financial disincentive. So, from the standpoint of the law and logic, the Liebeck verdict was grossly inadequate in terms of the purpose of punitive damages of protecting future McDonald’s customers from the corporation’s knowing and willful dangerous conduct.
Would 190 degree coffee burn a rabbit, or would the fur tend to provide some protection?
Does Dave Reichert pour boiling hot coffee on rabbits?
44, 45
Well Richard, I wouldn’t normally give much credence to the Washington Times, which is owned by Moonie-cult founder Rev. Sun Myung Moon, is not self-supporting (Moon has subsidized WT’s losses to the time of $50 million a year for over 20 years from the profits of his worldwide network of low-wage sweatshops), and has a strong and unabashedly partisan right-wing slant.
But in this instance, WT is simply reporting the results of a Harris poll. Harris is a respected mainstream polling organization.
And when WT reports that Bush’s approval rating has dropped to 29%, and the Seattle Times and other MSM are reporting that large numbers of Republican voters are now deserting Bush, you know the president is in serious trouble.
How serious? I’d say this serious: 29% is getting damn close to impeachment territory. Other polls show Democrats with a strong double-digit lead in voter preferences for who should control Congress. We all know that if the Democrats capture even one house of Congress, the rest of Bush’s presidency will be consumed by investigations. And those investigations almost certainly will reveal more scandals. In all probability, this secrecy-shrouded administration’s most serious transgressions have not been exposed yet — keeping them secret is the obvious driving motive behind the pervasive culture of lies, coverups, and secrecy that enshrouds our national government. While a simple majority of House Democrats could deliver an impeachment resolution to the Senate, Bush cannot be removed from office without a significant number of Republican votes in the Senate, and that will happen only if those Republican senators conclude they have to fire a president of their own party to save themselves and/or the party. At 29%, we’re probably not there yet. In theory, Bush will be removed from office before he gets to 0%, because at 0% nobody would support him and everyone would want him gone. I’m not sure where the point of no return is, but my instinct is that an approval rating of 20% is not survivable. We probably wouldn’t see an impeachment; rather, the leading politicians of Bush’s own party would put immense pressure on him to resign, as happened in Nixon’s case. Basically, they would read him the riot act: Either resign, or we’re going to vote with the Democrats to remove you. Nixon could count; they told him enough votes to remove him were there. Whether Bush is as rational a man as Nixon, or a fight-to-the-bitter-end madman willing to take his country and party down with him like Hitler, remains to be seen. Speaking only for myself, George W. Bush has for a long time impressed me as a man whose elevator doesn’t go to the top floor or, putting it another way, doesn’t have all his wires plugged in.
Richard “Nazi Suppoter” Pope @ 43 and 44
So Bush Jr, has finally topped his old man.
Congrats to the Trolls all around!
Bush is as unpopular as his old man.
This is a Miller Time.
But don’t worry, there are depths of unpopularity for Bush yet to come.
Key word is “The Hague”.
Enjoy!
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“We democrats have to stop the NSA. I know my brother Bobby wire tapped MLK back in the 60’s but we are Kennedys and we can get away with murder. Stop terrorist abuse, stop the NSA.” Commentby RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy— 5/11/06@ 10:13 pm
If I’m not mistaken, it was J. Edgar Hoover — who blackmailed a parade of presidents of both parties — who wiretapped MLK (and a bunch of other people).
And Hoover — in case you’ve forgotten — was a right-wing paranoic obsessed with “the Red threat” like the Birchers.
And the fanatical rightwinger Hoover was just lovely in a short black dress.
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I don’t know; I think it could go either way. One school of thought is the fur would provide some insulation; but a contrary argument is the fur would trap it against the skin, making the injury worse. I’m not interesting in empirically testing it. If you try to test it on me, you’ll go to prison under Pasedo’s Law — if I don’t kill you first by ripping your guts out with my powerful hind feet equipped with razor-sharp claws!
In fact, if you put Margaret Thatcher and Edgar Hoover in the same dress, you would never be able to tell them apart.
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Hey fur for brains…
King biographer David J. Garrow writes: “On October 10, 1963, U.S. Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy committed what is widely viewed as one of the most ignominious acts in modern American history: he authorized the Federal Bureau of Investigation to begin wiretapping the telephones of the Reverend Martin Luther King Jr.”
Except that Thatcher was much taller than the dweebish “JCHwillirian” Hoover.
@60 But he got a court order. That is why we know about it.
Bush… not so much.
Again
Who wiretapped who
http://www.icdc.com/~paulwolf/.....rtIIIb.htm
Of course who ever said donks are good with facts. They rewrite history as soon as it happens.
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“Does Dave Reichert pour boiling hot coffee on rabbits?” Commentby Richard Pope— 5/11/06@ 10:49 pm
It wouldn’t surprise me one damn bit. He seems to go out of his way to avoid hugging rabbits. Maybe he harbors an irrational hatred of rabbits. Maybe a rabbit fucked his wife and he never got over being cuckolded … you know, can’t put it behind him and move on, like the rest of us have to do. Somebody should tell Dave that if a rabbit banged Mrs. Reichert, it wasn’t personal, it was just reproduction — you know, species survival and all that. That’s what I do, I bang female bunnies to make sure the bunny supply doesn’t get too tight (driving up the pump price of bunnies to politically unacceptable levels), I’m just performing the function God designed me for. Ma Nature makes me do it. Well, if Reichert got cuckolded by a bunny, it’s the same thing. The rabbit didn’t know any better. He thought he was making more rabbits. How would he know that fucking a female human would only produce sterile hybrids who would grow up to be Republican presidents some day. (Looking at the current Republican president and the First Lady, I’m pretty sure he’s a sterile hybrid that resulted from the sexual interaction of two discrete species, one of which was a jackass.) I’m not here to solve Reichert’s emotional problems for him. He should call Dr. Phil, who gets paid for that. All I can say is that if Reichert can’t or won’t hug a rabbit after two years in office, it’s time for someone else to occupy that office. Darcy Burner has a proven track record as a rabbit hugger. It’s time to stop screwing around waiting for Reichert to make up his mind whether he’s ever going to hug a rabbit or not.
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Don’t overlook the fact that mother-beater David Irons Jr. is now more popular than the Thief-In-Chief.
ROGER RABBIT POLL
Which is the most unpopular?
[ ] 1. George W. Bush
[ ] 2. Cigaret smoke
[ ] 3. David Irons Jr.
[ ] 4. Low Tax Looper
@ 63 … uh… nothing new. More wingnuts wiretapping. Did you even read that, RUFUS? or did you just get it as a “talking point” straight from your RNC handlers?
Rabbit @ 53
What impeachable offense would they come up with? Harry Truman’s popularity was 22% at one point, and no one impeached him. Simply being extremely unpopular or even incompetent is no an impeachable offense.
Would Dick Cheney be leaving/forced out too? I assume that it wouldn’t do the GOP much good to have Cheney as President if George W Bush is forced out of office?
Will Cheney be “retiring” due to “health” reasons? If so, who would Bush nominate to replace him? Remember that Nixon’s choice of Ford was actually quite sensible.
Rabbit @ 53
What impeachable offense would they come up with? Harry Truman’s popularity was 22% at one point, and no one impeached him. Simply being extremely unpopular or even incompetent is no an impeachable offense.
Would Dick Cheney be leaving/forced out too? I assume that it wouldn’t do the GOP much good to have Cheney as President if George W Bush is forced out of office?
Will Cheney be “retiring” due to “health” reasons? If so, who would Bush nominate to replace him? Remember that Nixon’s choice of Ford was actually quite sensible.
“ROGER RABBIT POLL
Which is the most unpopular?
[ ] 1. George W. Bush
[ ] 2. Cigaret smoke
[ ] 3. David Irons Jr.
[ ] 4. Low Tax Looper ”
I was gonna do a write in vote for “cancer in babies”
But I have to vote for G.W.B.
Even babies with cancer hate Bush!
Hey proffesor Donna, please explain how the US got a court order?
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2....._0116.html
“Remember that Nixon’s choice of Ford was actually quite sensible.”
Explain. At length. Use charts if necessary.
Answer to Roger Rabbit Poll: The correct answer is (4), Low Tax Looper. David Irons Jr. is slightly more popular than cigaret smoke. Cigaret smoke is significantly more popular than George W. Bush. However, Bush’s 29% still beats Looper’s 4% by a country mile. This result is probably temporary. Looper is unpopular because he was convicted of murdering his political opponent. Given all the other lies and shit about Bush that have come out, it seems likely that Bush has been murdering his political opponents, too, and when this comes out Bush’s popularity can be expected to fall to around 4%, if Looper’s case is any guide. Then he and Looper can be prison buddies and take turns pounding each other in the ass. They should get along real well as they’re both sterile fruitcake right-wing hybrids of indeterminate species.
RUFUS “Hey proffesor Donna, please explain how the US got a court order?”
Don’t need to. Your question is absurd.
As always.
74
Didnt think so. Got caught talking out of your ass as usual. Hehehe
RUFUS @ 71 is an example why Horsesass.org needs some way to vote morons off the blog.
It said nothing that was reasonable, or respondable.
It was just complete Troll BS.
Hey, RUFUS. tell us all “how the US got a court order?”
Take your time.
RUFUS… talking out of your ass is all you do.
Hell, it is all you CAN do.
The Kennedy wiretapping of Dr Martin Luther King Jr was ILLEGAL, according to an Al Gore speech on King Day in 2006:
“And on this particular Martin Luther King Day, it is especially important to recall that for the last several years of his life, Dr. King was illegally wiretapped-one of hundreds of thousands of Americans whose private communications were intercepted by the U.S. government during that period.”
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2....._0116.html
Some wingnut dismay from RUFUS
New poll shows Bush’s approval rating at 60%. The respondents being 50% republican, 30% democrat and 20% independent was conducted by Fox news. The unbiased poll has an error rate of + or – 2%.
Comment by RUFUS — 3/1/06 @ 8:31 pm
I come up with a fictitious poll and I get called a liar. Leave it to a donk.
Comment by RUFUS — 3/1/06 @ 10:06 pm
I wonder if the House Democrats will be hiring Bob Barr as special counsel for any impeachment investigation of George W Bush:
In an address delivered in Washington to multiple standing ovations, Vice President Al Gore repeatedly attacked the Bush Administration for the expansion of executive power — the ability of the government to wiretap its own citizens without legal authority and kidnap Americans abroad.
His speech — which compares the wiretapping of Martin Luther King to the broad surveillance now imposed on Americans by President Bush — called on Congress to resume its oversight responsibilities, and enjoined Attorney General Alberto Gonzales to appoint a special prosecutor. Gore was to be introduced by former Rep. Bob Barr, a Georgia Republican who has advocated for the constitutional right to privacy. The full text of his speech follows.
“Congressman Barr and I have disagreed many times over the years, but we have joined together today with thousands of our fellow citizens-Democrats and Republicans alike-to express our shared concern that America’s Constitution is in grave danger.
In spite of our differences over ideology and politics, we are in strong agreement that the American values we hold most dear have been placed at serious risk by the unprecedented claims of the Administration to a truly breathtaking expansion of executive power.
As we begin this new year, the Executive Branch of our government has been caught eavesdropping on huge numbers of American citizens and has brazenly declared that it has the unilateral right to continue without regard to the established law enacted by Congress precisely to prevent such abuses. It is imperative that respect for the rule of law be restored in our country.”
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2....._0116.html
Dick Pope bravely says “The Kennedy wiretapping of Dr Martin Luther King Jr was ILLEGAL”
Yes it was.
So is the wiretapping of millions of Americans By GWB.
I am sure you agree, MR. Dick “I love a Nazi Parade” Pope.
It is great sport when donks accuse repubs of corruption. As a conservative you can just sit back with your toe on the trigger of a machine gun knowing that the ammo will never run out.
Hell and the raw story is from the left. You cna use their own drivel against them.
RUFUS with one finger up his nose and his thumb up his butt said
“It is great sport when donks accuse repubs of corruption. As a conservative you can just sit back with your toe on the trigger of a machine gun knowing that the ammo will never run out.”
And that the conservative approval ratings can’t get any LOWER!!!
LOL
Dick Pope bravely says “The Kennedy wiretapping of Dr Martin Luther King Jr was ILLEGAL”
Yes it was.
Commentby Donnageddon— 5/11/06@ 11:33 pm
Damn straight, and we Kennedys got away with it. Ah shit, I only have two hours left before I have got to vote. Got grab my scotch and burbon and run.
RUFUS, as an RNC Troll, you rate a 30% approval rating.
You must be proud. That is better that Bush or the Republican Congress!
High Five!
RUFUS said “Damn straight, and we Kennedys got away with it.
es, but too bad the Bush Nazi’s are going to get hung for spying on MILLIONS of Americans!!!
High Five!!! Good job ol’ Troll! You must be very, very proud!
NEWS FLASH: RUFUS MORE POPULAR THAN BUSH OR GENOCIDE!
Congrats!
Donna @ 82
I don’t think it is millions that have been wiretapped. Probably only tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands. You must be getting the millions from the telephone calling logs — which is actually tens of millions, and probably over 100 million people whose call records have been gathered by the federal government. It might actually be legal for telephone companies to compile lists of all local and long distance calls (they do that for long distance calls, of course) and turn these records over to the federal government. And I am sure the federal government has also been wiretapping Nazis and not confining their anti-terrorism wiretapping just to Muslim extremists.
RUFUS, as an RNC Troll, you rate a 30% approval rating.
Commentby Donnageddon— 5/11/06@ 11:40 pm
It is going to be short lived. The dems are going to crumble just like your arguments in the last 10 posts. Enjoy it while it lasts.
Dick Pope @ 90 “And I am sure the federal government has also been wiretapping Nazis and not confining their anti-terrorism wiretapping just to Muslim extremists.”
I am so relieved!!!
Bush in 2004 “You now, regarding wiretaps… when we do that… we get a “Court Order”.. We do not wiretap without a Court Order..”
It was BULLSHIT THEN, and, forgive me if I do not believe ANYTHING they say now.
RUFUS “It is going to be short lived. The dems are going to crumble just like your arguments in the last 10 posts. Enjoy it while it lasts.”
Uh.. you have had no response to my last 10 posts. So, I think the hanging of GWB at The Hague is as real as gravity.
Donna @ 92
But you can’t prove that Bush got a Court Order, can you? Just like Rufus can’t prove that Kennedy got a Court Order.
Donna @ 93
They don’t have a death penalty at The Hague.
And, hell… so GWB escapes the gallows he deserves… as long as The US gets back to supporting its own Constitution will be good enough for me.
We can always throw rotten vegetables at Bush later.
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“What impeachable offense would they come up with?”
1. violating the Constitution
2. violating federal laws
3. corruption
4. abuse of power
Dufus @83
You are delusional that (1) you are a “conservative,” (2) you have a machine gun, (3) if you do have a machine gun, that you can fire it with your toe, and (4) that “the ammo will never run out.” Obviously you have never been anywhere near a “crew-served weapon.” And equally obviously, you have no fucking idea of what a “conservative” is.
Speaking of children who never got enough attention from their mothers I give you JCH. I know it’s hard to imagine you having a mother, JCH, but really, try to address some of your ‘issues’.
Commentby Tree Frog Farmer— 5/11/06@ 8:05 pm
Tree Frog Farmer did you say you had two mothers and no daddy?
Dick Pope @ 94 “But you can’t prove that Bush got a Court Order, can you? Just like Rufus can’t prove that Kennedy got a Court Order.”
The issue has nothing to do with “Proving Bush got a Court Order”
We KNOW he DID NOT!!!!
HE has stated that he did not need a court order.
He has by his own admission acknowledged that he has brocken his auth of office and the Constitution of the USA.
He is a traitor and should be Impeached, found guilty. Tired for treason, Rat out on his enablers, and hung with Cheney, and Rumsfield.
He is a traitor and should be Impeached, found guilty. Tired for treason, Rat out on his enablers, and hung with Cheney, and Rumsfield.
Commentby Donnageddon— 5/12/06@ 12:01 am
Hung or hanged? Are you trying to say that Bush, Cheney and Rumsfield are well endowed?
And as a sensible measure to make sure this abuse of power never happens again, all Republican Politicians should sent to Gitmo until they can prove that they never supported the Bush Administration.
Hangings are always optional. But encouraged.
“Hung or hanged? Are you trying to say that Bush, Cheney and Rumsfield are well endowed?”
I stand by my statement.
But if you wish to ask a Librairian, do so.
Hung, is the proper usage.
But then you are a Nazi supporter. What would you know?
usage For both transitive and intransitive senses 1b the past and past participle hung, as well as hanged, is standard. Hanged is most appropriate for official executions but hung is also used . Hung is more appropriate for less formal hangings .
1946
October 16 – Following their trials for crimes committed against humanity, Nazi war criminals are hanged at Nuremberg. In the final use of the crematoriums at Dachau, the bodies are burned there, and the ashes scattered into a river.
http://www.notowitz.com/Voices.....eline.html
“Hung is more appropriate for less formal hangings .”
There is absolutely no formalily needed.
Unless you consider “World Wide Televised” a formality.
Hung or Hanged.
Justice must be served.
In the early morning hours, two trucks carrying the German leaders hanged at Nuremberg left the prison compound of the Palace of Justice bound for a Munich crematory. There, during all of that day, the bodies were burned, one after the other. It was reported that in the evening the urns containing the ashes were taken away to be emptied in to River Isar. The dust of the dead was carried along in the currents of the stream to the Danube – thence to the sea.
http://www.roberthjackson.org/.....s_Tyranny/
Actually, I think the concept of giving Dufus a machine gun to play with has great merit, for reasons I will explain shortly.
First, however, I want to emphasize that this proposal is subject to a condition, namely, that Dufus plays with the machine gun in an isolated location where nobody else is around and he can’t hurt anyone but himself.
Now to the mechanics of machine gun operation. A machine gun, like all weapons that launch a projectile through a tube, is provided with infinitely adjustable aiming mechanisms. The weapon is aimed by moving the tube (i.e., barrel) in combinations of two directions: Up-down and sideways. Artillerists refer to these as “elevation” and “deflection.”
In addition, there must be some sort of locking or retarding mechanism to hold the breech-and-barrel assembly in position once it has been aligned with the intended target at least long enough to fire one round, otherwise it is virtually impossible to strike the target and the weapon is essentially useless. This can be a lug mechanism, friction brake, or some other type of mechanism.
Now let’s cut to the chase. Any machine gun mounted on a tripod, such as the Browning M2 .50-caliber or the .30 caliber, will swivel through a full 360-arc from the recoil forcing the barrel sidways if the locking mechanism is disengaged or too lightly engaged and you let go of the gun. This is called a “runaway machine gun” and it kills everybody on the firing range.
It takes three things for this to happen. First, the retarding mechanism must be incompetently managed. Secondly, the gun must malfunction, i.e., it must continue firing after letting go of the trigger. This is more common than you’d think because after the first few rounds, the breech and barrel are hot enough to “cook off” (i.e., detonate) rounds without striking the primer, so as long as there are rounds left in the belt (a typical machine gun belt has 500 rounds) or drum, and the feed mechanism is operating properly, the gun will just keep firing. Third, some idiot has to get scared, let go of the gun, and try to run away with it — which is suicide. Because when he does that, the gun is going to swing through the full 360-degree arc and shoot him as he is running away from it.
So, I say yes, let’s give Dufus a machine gun to play with, make certain he gets no training in how (and how not to) use it, and let nature take its course. One less trollbot posting canned bullshit on HorsesAss.
I muatr confess, Dick Pope, you have a much broader Knowledge of the Nazi’s fate at Nuremberg.
It is almost like you have a fateful recognition with them.
BTW, Dick, that is not a compliment.
It is a harrowing realization that you truly are one sick mo-fo.
should read “and try to run away from it”
Actually, the secret to such knowledge is “GOOGLE”.
http://www.google.com/search?h.....gle+Search
Name: Donn
Member Since: September 2004
Sex: M
Location: Seattle
Good music defined as intelligent, unique, explorative, passionate and artistic. Favorite genres include: Classical, punk, indie, jazz, folk and anything else performed, written and felt with the attributes described above.
http://www.emusic.com/profile/.....onnageddon
Clicked the URL, Dick, it came up with “dick”
Uh, Dick are you trying to “out me”?
Donnageddon is buying Sound Politics stock!
http://www.alexadex.com/ad/user/Donnageddon
Am I supposed to be scared because a Nazi sympathizer did a “google search”?
Dick, did you find what my favorite color is?
Your a genius!
I am particularly pissed that youare going to TOTALLY screw up my “ftd.com” netstock.
Mother’s day is coming. I thought that was a great investment.
Now I am totally destroyed!!!
This is hilarious!
Keep it coming, Dick!
Why did you buy only 5 shares of ftd.com? You had better sell it quickly now!
I plan on selling it tomorrow. After Noon Pacific time. Can’t do it before noon.
It is the rules.
In case we have to fight a civil war against a genocidal dictatorship that overthrows the Constitution and sets about exterminating liberals, and some of you find yourselves having to go into action with “liberated” military weapons with minimal training, here is what you do with a runaway machine gun.
First of all, don’t let go of it. Even if it doesn’t stop firing when you let go of the trigger, as long as you hold onto it and aim it toward the target, all the rounds will go toward the target.
Secondly, if the trigger mechanism malfunctions or the rounds cook off with the result the machine gun continues firing and feeding rounds after you let go of the trigger, you can get it to stop firing by breaking the belt or disengaging and removing the ammo drum. Deprived of ammunition, the weapon will stop firing.
Third, never touch the barrel or breech block of a machine gun after it’s been fired, because it will have the same effect on your hand as pressing it against a red-hot stove burner. That’s how hot the gun is after firing just a few rounds. Not only the exploding powder, but even more so, the friction of the bullet passing through the barrel, generates incredible heat.
Always fire a machine gun in a series of short bursts, giving it a few seconds to cool between bursts. Never fire any type of automatic weapon continuously. A good burst is three to five rounds. There are two principal reasons for this. First of all, due to recoil, only the first three rounds will be anywhere near the aiming point, and after that they’re all going off into the woods and you’re just wasting ammunition. Second, the heat will build up so fast that within a minute or so the barrel will warp, destroying the weapon’s accuracy and rendering it useless — and perhaps unable to fire at all or causing a dangerous buildup of pressure behind the bullet that can rupture the breech block, spewing shrapnel that can easily injure or kill the operator.
All machine guns used by U.S. military forces are designed with interchangeable barrels. In the Vietnam era, an infantry squad typically was equipped with one squad crew-served machine gun, which usually was an M-60 that fired the NATO round. The crew always carried a spare barrel and an insulating glove similar to a kitchen pan glove. A simple lug mechanism locks or unlocks the barrel and you pull it out of the breech block. With practice, an experienced crew can change a barrel in a few seconds, which in an intense firefight may be a few seconds too long but in any case you have to do it very fast. The Browning M2 .50 caliber has a different lug design and is a much heavier and bulkier weapon, but it too has a barrel that you have to remove and replace after a short period of firing and that comes out of the breech block with a couple of simple motions that an experienced crew can perform quickly under fire. There’s no such thing as too much practice, but if you have to go into battle with no practice at all, try to procure a spare barrel for your crew-served weapon if at all possible, and have someone show you how to change the barrels and practice it a few times before you run up to the front line and open up on the enemy.
Also, be aware that a machine gun goes throw ammo very quickly, and unless the gun is mounted on a tank, aircraft, or other vehicle, foot soldiers can carry only a limited supply of machine gun ammo into battle and the weapon crew has to make effective use of the limited supply. You may have to provide supporting fire for your squad for some time, perhaps hours, without ammo resupply so you’ve got to engage the enemy with well-aimed short bursts that make every round count. You should also understand that the basic function of the machine gun crew is to force the opposing force to ground, behind cover, in order to hinder their ability to engage your force and create opportunities for your squad infantrymen to use their individual weapons to pick off opponents. In other words, it’s helpful but not essential for the machine gun crew to take out opponents, the machine gun makes a valuable contribution simply by suppressing enemy fire and forcing the enemy to cover. To be most effective, small-unit infantry fires must be coordinated and must interlock. The tactics are not simple and this kind of fighting requires intelligence not to mention the ability to stay cool and focus on your job while your buddies to either side of you are getting hit by enemy fire. Damned difficult to do for green troops let alone untrained civilians, and appreciating how difficult it is, is the most important step toward being effective in a firefight instead of an impediment who is worse than useless on the battlefield and a downright hazard to himself and his comrades.
Notice that I have no fear whatsoever if that if someone gives Dufus a machine gun, there is even the slightest risk that he will employ it intelligently. Hell, in his case, I might be willing to stand in front of it.
But I am still counting on negligent Sons.
Republicans will make me rich in Fake Stock!!!
Dick, I am surprised you are a member of emusic.com
Unless you aren’t and still got my profile.
Heck, nothing surprises me about Nazi Sympathizers!
Look what the # 2 trader on Alexa Dex buys and sells in web stocks:
http://www.alexadex.com/ad/user/jww132
Democracy is two wolves and a rabbit voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed rabbit contesting the results of the election.
Is #2 you , Dick?
Don’t be ashamed. You are just doing good business.
LIBERALS MUST ARM!!!
I’m not saying we should all become paranoiacs and spend our spare time reading military manuals purchased at surplus stores and running through the woods in mock drills as members of rump militias like right-wing wackos do.
All I’m saying is just absorb some of these things as we go along so that if the balloon goes up and we civilians have to fight for our lives, you will have heard some of it before and can be taught fairly quickly how to survive and function on a battlefield. We aren’t going to have time to train you like the military does. It will help a ton if you have at least a general idea of what you, as an individual, and the fighting unit of which you are a part, needs to do; how to handle your weapons; and at least rudimentary tactics.
But to be perfectly honest with you, there is no free ride in gun-fighting; in all gun-fighting, whether military or civilian, whether one-on-one or unit-against-unit, it is always 95% psychological and 5% tactical, and from the streets of the Old West to the battlefields of the world wars, it has always been the same thing that makes a gunfighter effective — and that is a willingness to get shot. You simply can’t fight effectively if your mindset is to avoid getting hurt at all costs. What makes the most effective and dangerous gun-fighters so is not speed, or accuracy, but their willingness to trade their lives for the lives of their opponents, a willingness to die in order to win the fight, because that kind of gun-fighter will press the fight despite return fire, cannot be made to disengage, and the only way you can stop him is to kill him. That is a formidable fighter indeed, and it rattles the fucking hell out of any normal human being to have to face such an opponent — and the nervy, aggressive fighter who ignores danger to himself and presses the fight almost always wins unless he is matched against an opponent of equal mental prowess and technical skill, in which case the outcome is a coin toss.
Richard Pope has laid Donnageddon’s web path bare.
Dick, you gonna arrest me now?
I trust you all understand by now that I’m not the least bit afraid of gasbags who talk big but love their own hides far too much to even think of trading their life for a liberal’s life, which describes 99% of the right-wing fanatics who go around talking about exterminating liberals. It’s the other 1% we might have to deal with. All I’ll say about them is, lock and load, and follow me.
I still think that “StarTrekTheNewVoyages” is going to go gangbusters come the 4th QTR.
Far out performing my ftd.com netstock.
Hell, Roger Rabbit, I have a well stocked armory, and a all of them are hair trigger.
If only my Netstock, and emusic profile were as well positioned.
BTW, Dick, if you ever go to a “Halflife” Mod and see Donnageddon… Duck and cover.
You are targeted.
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Damn straight, Richard. Truest thing you ever said on this blog. Hell Richard, if you’ll only swear to defend the Constitution you can be in my foxhole. You don’t have to become a Democrat to fight with me. If you don’t know anything about weapons or tactics, just listen to my instruction, I’ll teach you (and show you) as we go along. But you’ll need to be a good student, because I’ll surely get killed and when I do, I’ll expect you to pick up the torch and lead and teach the next guy, and when you get killed he will pick up the torch and so on, and it will go on like this until the bad guys have had enough and our sons and grandsons can live in peace and freedom, and grow old, and die in their beds.
Roger Rabbit @ 139
C L A P ClAP
CLAPCLAPCLAPCLAPCLAPCLAPCLAPCLAPCLAP!!!
Well said!
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Actually I don’t recommend hair triggers. It’s a control thing. I want the round to go off because I made a conscious mental decision, not because of a twitch or reflex. Taking the trigger resistance down to 3 or 4 lbs. is appropriate for competition target shooting, but for civilian self-defense or battle I’d like a bit more trigger resistance. I never had the factory trigger on my self-defense gun modified, even though the rest of the weapon is extensively customized. The amount of pull resistance the factory engineers built into it is about right for an alley gun. There should be no worry over missing the assailant due to jerking the trigger, because if he’s far enough away from you for that to happen, you have no business shooting at him and your self-defense claim probably won’t hold up in court. As long as we have a functioning police force and court system, i.e., in any scenario short of complete social breakdown and chaos, you should not exercise your self-defense rights until the attacker is right on top of your ass. Behaving otherwise could prove hazardous to your legal health.
Roger rabbit, perhaps Goldy can arrange a trade of real email addresses.
I need to know more about guns other than pulling the trigger when I am see Neocons.
“I am see” means “I see or smell” neocons.
But, Roger Rabbit, be advised, as Dick pointed out my emusic profile states I like “Good music”
You are warned.
I additionally hate Neocons.
Perhaps it works out in the end.
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It’s more important to know your heart than the mechanical function of guns. If you want to know how our forebears managed the things they did, it’s simple: Do not love your life so much that you’ll sell your soul to keep it. The Native American warriors had a saying: “Today is a good day to die.” How could they tell? Once again, it’s simple: You’ll know it when you see it.
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Goldy has me e-mail address and can forward a message to me.
To everyone who wants JCH’s posts from the blog:
I have a different take on deleting his posts, I say keep all his posts on the blog for everyone to read. Had JCH’s post been deleted previously, I would not have been able to catch him flat out lying about his military service.
In my opinion, it’s better to expose a liar, repeatedly, then to let them get away with it.
“GBS, my dog thinks your are a homo.
Commentby Patches [JCH]Kennedy— 5/11/06@ 5:51 pm”
Here’s a prime example of what I’m talking about when it comes to right-wing wacko’s.
The person who comes to my mind that makes up stories of knowing “what their dog is thinking is David Berkowitz.
Here’s a little passage I found regarding Berkowitz, the dog, and why he really killed.
“Berkowitz owned up to the fact that the story of the talking dog and his Satanic master were nothing but fantasy. He had created the tale, he told Ressler, to prove to the police that he was insane, and when caught, could avoid prosecution for the killings. The real reason David killed was not because of Sam or Harvey – it was over a deep resentment toward women, and his ineptness at building a lasting relationship with a ‘good woman’”
See, if JCH was normal, he’d be able to have a mature relationship with a woman. Instead, he molests his dog. Someone should call the King County Humane Society and report JCH is molesting animals in Kent.
There’s a good reason why conservatives cannot build good lasting relationships. The Konservative Krime Klown, aka Ms Chickenhawk, aka Mr. Cynical, gives the explanation. . .
Perhaps in your childhood you were never spanked or ridiculed. Your parents likely isolated you from all criticism and sarcasm…hence, you morphed into the LIBERAL PINHEAD you are today.
Commentby Mr. Cynical— 5/10/06@ 9:49 pm
So, by the Konservative Krime Klowns analogy, the way to raise a republican is to: Spank, ridicule, criticize, and project sarcasm on your children.
Well, that explains everything about Bush, Cheney, JCH, Mr Cynical, Rufus, Janet S. and the rest of the conservatives. They were humiliated children who grew up to be angry, spiteful, anti-social, hateful adults.
This statement certainly validates the study done in Berkeley that well adjusted children grow up to be Liberals, while whiny, snot-nosed, piss-ant kids grow up to be Konservative Krime Klowns.
Thanks, Mr Cynical.
I can’t believe it!!! A republican has just told the TRUTH!!!
RR @ 43: HARVARD STUDY: MOST MALPRACTICE LAWSUITS JUSTIFIED
Do you advocate taxes on windfall profits for the lawyers? Perhaps on profits above 9%?
The U.S. attorney should investigate whether the rabbit-hugging crisis in the 8th District was brought on by Reichert accepting unreported campaign donations from dogs.
For photo of “dog” click here: http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyhe.....harris.jpg
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“proffesor” Commentby RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy— 5/11/06@ 11:18 pm
Sheeshuzz, Dufus, stop embarrassing yourself and buy a dictionary (or have someone show you how to use spell check)
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“And I am sure the federal government has also been wiretapping Nazis and not confining their anti-terrorism wiretapping just to Muslim extremists.” Commentby Richard Pope— 5/11/06@ 11:45 pm
Richard — are you saying the Bushies are even wiretapping themselves?
Roger Rabbit on Guns:
“As long as we have a functioning police force and court system, i.e., in any scenario short of complete social breakdown and chaos, you should not exercise your self-defense rights until the attacker is right on top of your ass. Behaving otherwise could prove hazardous to your legal health.”
My old scoutmaster was a pretty tough case, and he had a simple rule for handguns. “Don’t Carry a Handgun unless you intend to pull it. Never pull a handgun unless you plan on pulling the trigger immediatly thereafter. Never pull a trigger unless you intend to kill your opponant with one well-placed shot”.
The problem with a lot of people carrying handguns is that they hope that by displaying the gun, they will scare off an attacker. Those people are just as likely to (a) get shot themselves, when their attacker pulls HIS gun, or (b) get their gun taken away from them, and then be shot by their own gun.
The U.S. attorney should investigate whether the rabbit-hugging crisis in the 8th District was brought on by Reichert accepting unreported campaign donations from dogs.
Commentby Roger Rabbit— 5/12/06@ 11:16 am
Reichert needs campaign contributions from wolves and coyotes. Most pet dogs are too tame to savagely attack rabbits.
I sure wish my owner would quit fucking me up the ass.
Why Donna know all about men who are well hung.
Isn’t it it’s kind of a big deal that the guy who just quit as #3 of the CIA just had his home and office raided by the FBI?
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