by Darryl, 02/19/2013, 1:26 AM

Remember during the 2012 election how Republicans tried to paint Obama as soft on Israel, if not downright hostile to Israel? Here’s Israel’s take:

“Barack Obama is a true friend of the State of Israel, and has been since the beginning of his public life,” Peres and the award committee said in explaining their decision. “As president of the United States of America, he has stood with Israel in times of crisis. During his time as president he has made a unique contribution to the security of the State of Israel, both through further strengthening the strategic cooperation between the countries and through the joint development of technology to defend against rockets and terrorism.”

Consequently, Obama will be awarded a Presidential Medal by President Shimon Peres.

This is shining example of how Republicans will shamelessly lie about fucking anything and everything.

Republicans, as a corporate entity, can only be described as deeply sociopathic. Some individual Republicans may not be sociopaths, but they must lack an ethics enzyme or something. I mean, how else can a person willfully belong to an entity that has no higher principles and simply seeks power through habitual lies?

31 Responses to “The real world falsifies another Republican lie”

1. MikeBoyScout spews:

Habitual lying Republicans.

Hey Serial Reneger, when are you going to meet your obligation to me for losing your bet and write a check in the amount of $1,000 payable to Northwest Harvest and mail it to Darryl?

Republicans, why do you let Serial Reneger spoil your brand? Oh, wait.

2. Deathfrogg spews:

“All governments suffer a recurring problem: Power attracts pathological personalities. It is not that power corrupts but that it is magnetic to the corruptible. Such people have a tendency to become drunk on violence, a condition to which they are quickly addicted.”

- Frank Herbert

3. Gman spews:

Republicans = Bunch of scum, if you ask me. It’s unfortunate.

4. Serial conservative spews:

So, I guess if Republicans are a ‘corporate entity’, then Mitt Romney is right, and corporations are people, too.

My friend.

5. Serial conservative spews:

It’s not really ‘Israel’s take’. It’s the take of one man and a group of individuals he selected to serve on the awards committee, which began handing out awards last year and so far has handed out six of them.

In fact no one sings Obama’s praises louder and with greater frequency than Peres.

http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=303698

It’s the take of a man who was given an award by Obama last year. This is reciprocation; a diplomatic 69 using precious metals formed into disks and hung by ribbons around the neck.

It should be noted that Obama joins fellow warmonger Henry Kissinger as a recipient of this award.

Regarding the feelings of Israel about Obama, this is rather a nice analogy:

Peres giving the award to Obama (and to Henry Kissinger last year) says no more about what Israelis think than Obama presenting a medal of freedom to Toni Morrison said about what Americans think.

http://israelmatzav.blogspot.com/

We’ve actually seen what Israel’s current prime minister thinks of Obama, and it doesn’t make Republicans liars. The position of president in Israel is largely ceremonial.

Lemme know when Bibi gives Obama an award. So far all I’ve seen is the equivalent of a raised finger from him directed at The One.

6. rhp6033 spews:

Speaking about Republicans lying about everything….

President Obama took to the links today to play some golf with Tiger Woods.

By Sunday, a Fox News white house correspondent, claiming that he spoke for the entire press corps, decried the unavailability of President Obama to grant acess to reporters FOR THE ENTIRE WEEKEND.

What a lying, whining, crybaby.

7. Serial conservative spews:

@ 6

Actually, Ed Henry of Fox News DOES speak for the press corps, rhp. He’s the Association president, according to this:

White House Correspondents Association President Ed Henry released a statement Sunday evening, saying that the press corps had not been given adequate access to the president and that the group would press for “transparency” in the future, according to a pool report.

“Speaking on behalf of the White House Correspondents Association, I can say a broad cross section of our members from print, radio, online and TV have today expressed extreme frustration to me about having absolutely no access to the President of the United States this entire weekend,” said Henry.

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/283647-press-corps-expresses-frustration-over-lack-of-access-to-obama#ixzz2LMtwliAY

Nice try, though. Maybe you could comment on Obama’s unwillingness to speak to the broader press, since you brought it up. Consider it penance.

8. Serial conservative spews:

Not exactly on-point for this this thread, but since rhp (not to mention Darryl, IMHO) is spewing falsely about people with whom they disagree in this thread, I should point out that they’re in good company.

[NOTE TO BOB: HOLY FUCK...IF YOU BEGIN WITH THE PREMISE THAT A COMMENT IS OFF-TOPIC, THEN TAKE IT TO AN OPEN THREAD.]

9. Serial conservative spews:

Now, if Obama wanted to seem more deserving of this honor, he might consider starting here:

UPDATE: The first call from a pro-Israel group to pull the Hagel nomination is Christians United for Israel. Its executive director, David Brog, tells me, “Enough is enough. The administration can no longer claim ignorance of this nominee’s disdain for Israel and blindness towards Iran. For the sake of our nation President Obama must pull this nomination.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2013/02/19/hagel-israel-heading-toward-apartheid/

10. Roger Rabbit spews:

@5 Shimon Peres is just “one man” who doesn’t speak for anyone else in Israel? C’mon now …

11. Roger Rabbit spews:

@9 Yeah, stick a warmonger in there, we need some foaming-at-the-mouth rightwing crazy bent on world conquest (or world destruction) running the Defense Department. I nominate Ted Nugent.

12. Serial conservative spews:

@ 11

Doesn’t have to be a warmonger. Sam Nunn would be a decent choice. He wouldn’t want it but if asked to serve…

13. Roger Rabbit spews:

@9 (continued) You guys did such a great job when you ran America’s national security. First this …

http://www.steves-digicams.com/news/911.jpg

… and then you attacked the wrong country …

http://www.nocaptionneeded.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/iraqi-hosp-dead.png

… you couldn’t catch this guy …

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/media/92481/Osama-bin-Laden

… and at the end of the day, you started two wars you couldn’t finish and once again had to be bailed out of your messes by Democrats.

http://franciscocordova1.blogspot.com/2011/07/to-win-afghan-war-we-must-fix-politics.html

Why should anyone listen to you idiots?

14. Roger Rabbit spews:

@11 You guys lost the election, so we’re not going to let you run the country or choose the cabinet. That’s just how things work.

15. Serial conservative spews:

@ 13

How things work, RR, is you need 60 votes.

You keep saying you’re an attorney and former judge but more and more your words so strongly suggest otherwise.

16. Roger Rabbit spews:

@8 The difference between reputable media like AP and wingnut noise makers is they try to get the story right, admit their mistakes, and issue corrections.

17. Roger Rabbit spews:

@15 Not always. And even when you do, the only thing a minority party can do with 40 votes is say “no” to a specific nominee; they still don’t get to run the country or choose the cabinet.

18. Gman spews:

Tea Party portrays Karl Rove as a Nazi…..they finally get it…they are all Nazis!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/19/karl-rove-nazi-image-_n_2718349.html

19. Steve spews:

Ok, enough of the Republican/panda jokes for now. But seeing as how Republicans just can’t learn, perhaps more Republican/ultrasound probe jokes are in order.

Wisconsin:

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/02/15/1597701/wisconsin-forced-transvaginal-ultrasound/?mobile=nc

“This bill is a priority,” Wisconsin Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald (R) said.

Michigan:

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/02/06/1552881/michigan-transvaginal-ultrasound/

Transvaginal ultrasound probes. A Republican “priority”.

20. czechsaaz spews:

@9

So an organization led by John Hagee speaks for all Americans.

I guess I agree that hurricane Katrina was due to the existence of American homosexuals.

I guess I agree that anyone living in what is now Isreal prior to 1948 don’t exist and have no claim to ancestral land.

I guess I agree that Catholicism is a Godless theology.

I guess I agree that there is no global warming.

I’m an American and John Hagee and CUFI speak for me.

(wait, you were serious about someone giving a fuck what CUFI thinks?)

21. Serial conservative spews:

@ 19

So an organization led by John Hagee speaks for all Americans.

No, of course not. But by the same token, neither does an award proffered by an Obama admirer and his personally appointed committee speak for all of Israel, which was my point above.

22. Darryl spews:

Bob,

“So, I guess if Republicans are a ‘corporate entity’, then Mitt Romney is right, and corporations are people, too.”

What the fuck? The Republican Party is a corporate entity simply because it is a group composed of a collection of many members. There is nothing the least bit controversial about the suggestion.

It is a childish non sequitur to suggest that this fact makes it true that “corporations are people.” Corporations are not “people” in the ordinary sense that a “person” is an individual. Corporations are made up of a collection of “peoples,” but we conventionally use terms like “group” or “corporation” for such collections and leave “person” to refer to individuals.

In the same vein, a “flock of birds” is a corporate entity that we refer to as a “flock”. A flock is composed of birds. It is not a bird.

23. czechsaaz spews:

@21

So the president if Isreal is EXACTLY like an insane television preacher. I get your equivalency now. It was so subtle.

24. Darryl spews:

Bob,

The position of president in Israel is largely ceremonial.

You misunderstand what is meant by “ceremonial”. President of Israel is the Head of State.

The definition of Head of State: “Head of State…is a term used in constitutional law, international law, political science, and diplomatic protocol when referring to the official who holds the highest ranked position in a sovereign state and has the vested or implied powers to act as the chief public representative of a state.

What the “ceremonial” part of the position means is that the President avoids engaging in politicking. That limitation actually makes the Israeli President a better voice of the nation.

Please let Mr. Rove know on our behalf that he need MUCH better lies spin then the pathetic drivel you parroted @5.

25. Serial conservative spews:

@ 24

Please.

I’m sure Obama was in line for something from the Queen of England (Britain’s Head of State) if Michelle hadn’t gone and touched her.

Duke of Hyde Park or something.

As long as we’re using Wiki for our definitions @ 24, let’s see what Wiki says about the president of Israel:

The President of the State of Israel (Hebrew: נשיא המדינה‎, Nesi HaMedina, lit. President of the State; Arabic: رئيس الدولة‎) is the head of state of Israel. The position is largely an apolitical ceremonial figurehead role,[1]…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_President

Well, whaddya know. ‘Ceremonial figurehead role’.

Yeah, I was way off. Missed figurehead, I did.

Hair-splitting, doncha think, Darryl?

26. don spews:

@25, nice job there Serial, but instead of stopping after the first paragraph as you did, I read further. And further it says:

The President signs every law (except those that pertain to the President’s powers) and international or bilateral treaties approved by the Knesset.[2] In addition, the President endorses the credentials of ambassadors and receives the credentials of foreign diplomats, appoints the Governor of the Bank of Israel, the State Comptroller upon recommendation of the Knesset House Committee, members of the Council on Higher Education, the National Academy of Science, the Broadcasting Authority, the Authority to Rehabilitate Prisoners, the Chief Rabbinical Council, the Wolf Foundation, the President of Magen David Adom, the President of the Israel Academy of Sciences and Humanities, and ceremonially appoints the Prime Minister. The President also has the power to pardon or commute the sentences of both soldiers and civilians, and ceremonially appoints judges to courts, including the Supreme Court, after appointment by the Judicial Selection Committee.
To ensure the apolitical nature of the role, the president may “neither intervene politically nor express personal views on issues that divide the public”.

For a mere figurehead, that’s quite a bit of power. Also note the last line, if Obama is as disliked in Israel as you say, giving him an award would not be looked on too kindly.

So apart from commanding the military, Perez’ duties appear similar to our own president’s.

27. Serial conservative spews:

@ 26

So apart from commanding the military, Perez’ duties appear similar to our own president’s.

Perhaps read our own Constitution.

Their president is about the same as Britain’s Queen.

There’s more than a little bit of a difference between rubber-stamping the appointment of a Supreme Court justice and making that appointment oneself.

If there were so little difference between Israel’s president’s powers and those of our president, then the election of a prime minister in that country wouldn’t be such a big deal.

28. Darryl spews:

Bob,

“The position is largely an apolitical ceremonial figurehead role…”

Your problem, Bob, is that that single line from Wikipedia seems to be all you know about the President of Israel. In this case, “ceremonial figurehead” doesn’t mean what you think it means. He is still the head of state and, as I mentioned before, the apolitical nature of the job actually makes the position a much better one from which to speak on behalf of the people.

Perhaps you should stop relying on the Nutjob talking points and start analyzing and thinking for yourself before spewing. Your talking point sources have let you down again and again and again (see 2012 Presidential Election).

29. MikeBoyScout spews:

@27 Serial Reneger,

Their president is about the same as Britain’s Queen.

How so? Does the President of Israel inherit the position through primogeniture? Does the President of Israel serve for a constitutionally unlimited of time?

Or maybe your analogy of the British Queen to the President of Israel is more in line with Lyndon H. LaRouche’s knowledge of the Queen?

30. MikeBoyScout spews:

Republicans will shamelessly lie about fucking anything and everything.

IMO, today’s best example of Republican idiotic shameless hypocrisy, via Steve Benen


Former Sen. Pete Domenici (R) fathered a child with a woman who was not his wife — in fact, she was the daughter of one of his colleagues. He then voted for the Defense of Marriage Act and voted for articles of impeachment against President Clinton.

31. Serial Conservative spews:

@ 28

Darryl,

Even Israel’s own Foreign Affairs website

http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Government/Personalities/Presidents/The+Presidents+of+the+State+of+Israel.htm?DisplayMode=print

describes the duties of the Israeli president as mostly ceremonial. The list includes such important contributions as

lending prestige to community organizations and supporting campaigns to improve the quality of life in society at large.

This site also lists all of Israel’s presidents since she was formed as a nation. Not a David Ben Gurion, Golda Meir, Menachem Begin, or Yitzak Rabin among them.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I really can’t recall the last time someone tried to assassinate Israel’s sitting president. One might surmise that an Israeli citizen is more likely to be killed as a teenager sitting in a Sbarro’s than by serving as president.

The guy was a huge Obama fan, started a committee and hand-picked its members, and began handing awards out last year, a half-dozen of them so far. Obama got one. Since an awful lot of the people who actually make decisions that count in Israel are NOT Obama fans, calling Republicans liars because they point that out doesn’t seem supported by the handing out of a medal to The One by one of his avowed admirers, who just happens to be term-limited (and old, too) and therefore no longer really needs to care about what Israeli citizens think of him.

I didn’t need to look anywhere to point out that the Israeli president’s act doesn’t make Republicans liars. I went to JPost for one take on the Israeli president’s historic opinion of Obama. I probably could have gone to Haaretz and picked up a different perspective, granted. I use JPost on my own. I use Haaretz when someone’s link takes me there. I went to Wiki because you did.

The exchange of awards between Peres and Obama was a diplomatic 69. Doesn’t make Republicans liars.