Rocked by religious extremist

Another death in the hands of a domestic religious extremist:

A 28-year-old man has been charged with murder after telling police that he stoned a 70-year-old man to death for making homosexual advances toward him, authorities say. […]

Thomas reportedly told authorities that he read in the Old Testament that homosexuals should be stoned to death. When Seidman allegedly made homosexual advances toward him over a period of time, Thomas said he received a message in his prayers that he must end Seidman’s life, according to court documents.

Police say that Thomas struck Seidman in the head about 10 times with the sock of rocks. Thomas left Seidman dead in his apartment, and then threw his bloody clothing and the bloody sock in a dumpster, according to authorities.

…which leads me to ask, when, oh when, will Congress hold hearings on the radicalization of American Christians?

And when will our lawmakers take action against the gathering threat of honor killings via stoning (nip it in the bud, so to speak) by passing legislation forbidding the establishment of Mosaic law in Washington state?

(And rename Moses Lake to something less terroristic sounding, while they are at it?)

Comments

  1. 2

    Deathfrogg spews:

    In America, if one calls it Sharia, you will be violently opposed and vilified.

    If one calls it Theonomy, you will be praised and have lots of people throw millions of dollars at you.

    It is perfectly acceptable for christians to murder people in the name of God, especially non-christians.

    Especially brown-skinned non-christians.

  2. 3

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @1 What’s comedic about a religious nut beating an elderly man to death with a sock of rocks?

  3. 4

    Deathfrogg spews:

    @ 3 RR

    HE thinks its funny. He probably laughed at the scene in Schidlers List when the murdercamp commander got bored and started randomly sniping at the inmates.

  4. 6

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    TSA Fires Airport Screener For Witchcraft

    Before I get into this news item, I want to remind you of a few things:

    1. Consolidating domestic security operations into a single federal agency was proposed by Democrats, not Republicans;

    2. The Bush administration held up legislation creating the Department of Homeland Security for over a year, holding America’s safety hostage to Republicans’ insistence that DHS employees never have the right to join a union;

    3. In its first years, when Republicans ran the agency, TSA management was rife with cronyism, nepotism, favoritism, and managers taking bribes from employees for promotions and favorable treatment; workers were harassed to an unbelievable degree; and working conditions were so bad the employee turnover rate exceeded 100% a year;

    4. Here in Seattle, working conditions at Sea-Tac were so bad the Seattle Times, a Republican newspaper, ran an investigative series exposing how incompetent the local TSA management was and how workers were written up literally hundreds of times for unbelievably petty “infractions”;

    5. Under Republican management, the 40,000-employee TSA — which hasn’t caught a single terrorist — became one of the most bloated and inefficient of all federal bureaucracies;

    6. While Republicans busting their balls to destroy public unions at the state and local levels, federal TSA employees are voting this month on whether to join a unin.

    Now to the witch.

    MSNBC reports that Carol Smith, an airport screener at Albany NY and a Wiccan, has been fired by TSA after a co-worker accused Smith of putting a hex on her cat.

    When Smith was called in to the assistant director’s office, he told her he was investigating “a threat of workplace violence.” He explained another employee was “afraid of her” because she’s “a witch.” The other employee had accused her of following her home from work and putting a spell on her car heater which caused it to not work. The accuser admitted she didn’t see Smith’s car (but nevertheless was sure that Smith was following her and casting spells on her car).

    The assistant director told Smith she should enter mediation counseling with the other employee and explain her religion to the employee. Smith declined. Even though TSA didn’t order Smith to participate in the mediation counseling, her refusal was cited in her termination letter as insubordination.

    Twice during the interview, Smith left the assistant director’s office in tears, and had to be coaxed into returning. This, too, was cited as “insubordination” in her termination letter.

    Before she was fired, Smith was harassed by other workers, who stopped cooperating with her and asked her, “Where did you park your broom?” Smith complained to the director and ombudsman about the harassment. The director responded by writing an e-mail to a subordinate, “Since she has decided to go to the Ombudsman I am not going to address her issues … she has chosen her path.” A copy of the e-mail was put in Smith’s personnel file. Then Smith was written up for “having a negative attitude.”

    The write-ups continued. Then the personnel director wrote an e-mail to the director that said, “Hammer Time.” The director responded, “Not yet … not enough.”

    And then Smith became a whistleblower.

    She filed complaints about lax airport security. She wrote up a supervisor for leaving a gate open next to a metal detector. She filed another complaint about another supervisor who failed to inspect boxes brought in by a contractor.

    Smith was fired shortly afterward.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41....._business/

  5. 7

    Blue John spews:

    It’s stories like that, and the deafening silence and/or mocking from the conservatives, that reinforce my opinion that they think
    “Well, it’s just a gay man, it’s not like he stoned a god fearing white straight man, or a puppy or something valuable.”

  6. 8

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Roger Rabbit Poll

    This is a special edition of the Roger Rabbit Poll. The RRP is designed to poll HA readers on current news events. Here is today’s poll question:

    When Carol Smith wins her lawsuit against TSA for religious discrimination and workplace harassment, the amount of the jury award against TSA and its managers will be:

    [ ] 1. $250,000
    [ ] 2. $500,000
    [ ] 3. $750,000
    [ ] 4. $1,000,000
    [ ] 5. More than $1,000,000

  7. 10

    Randroid spews:

    @6. Roger Rabbit spews: TSA Fires Airport Screener For Witchcraft
    The moral of this story is that workers must conform and never make waves. Do not stand out in any way and never challenge authority.
    It’s the new world order brought to you by corporate republicans. Get used to it.

  8. 11

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    I have relatives in Wisconsin. Actually, I have relatives everywhere, because rabbits are ubiquitous. I especially have relatives in Australia, which is overrun with rabbits. Aussies call us “an invasive species” and a lot of other dirty names. Anyway, my relatives in Wisconsin tell me that state has enacted Republican so-called “tort reform” and wrongful death damages are now capped at $300,000 in that state. This is, of course, an Insurance Company Protection Act, because its sole purpose is to save money for big insurance companies. Now, what should the torture slaying of an elderly man be worth in civil court? That 28-year-old nut almost certainly doesn’t have a million dollars, but he just might have an insurance policy, and if this murder had occurred in Wisconsin, this law would make sure the dead man’s relatives don’t get more than $300,000.

    If you live in Wisconsin and someone kidnaps, rapes, tortures, and kills your 4-year-old daughter, the most you can sue the killer for is $300,000. Even if he’s worth millions.

    If you live in Wisconsin and a drunk driver crosses the center line and slams into your car and kills your entire family — let’s say you’re the sole survivor — the most you can sue him for is $300,000. Even if he has a $10 million insurance policy on his multimillion-dollar home and business.

    If you live in Wisconsin and your child is killed by a tainted hamburger sold by The Burger Chain, the most you can sue TBC for is $300,000.

    And so on.

    Know what happens when you legislate limits on liability? People are less careful. A $300,000 insurance policy is relatively cheap; it costs a couple hundred bucks a year. If you don’t have to worry about a legal judgment exceeding that amount, no matter how careless or criminal your behavior is, you have little or no motivation to be careful and heedful of the lives of others. What do you care if you kill someone else’s kids, if you can’t be sued?

    I think the more pertinent question is, why would anyone with an ounce of common sense ever vote for these Republican assholes?

  9. 12

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    The purpose of so-called “tort reform,” of course, is to deprive trial lawyers of their income. Trial lawyers are the top donor group to the Democrats. Public employee unions are the #2 donor group to Democrats. Republicans are going after the Democrats’ sources of campaign contributions big-time because they want to turn America into a one-party country like North Korea or China. Republicans don’t believe in democracy. They want to be a permanent governing minority. And they want to run America for their own personal financial benefit, the same way Mubarak, Gadhafi, and other Middle Eastern autocrats run their countries like family businesses. That’s what this is all about.

  10. 13

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    After Republicans install their dictatorship in America, don’t be surprised when they institute Sharia law. That’s because Republicans have a funny way of turning out to be exactly what they condemn. For example:

    For decades, Republicans have railed against communists, but we now know they got their ideology from Trotsky via Leo Strauss.

    For years, Republicans have railed against homosexuals, but we now know many of them are closet gays.

    Well, this is the same thing. Republicans are railing against Muslims — but behaving like the Taliban. And now, rightwing religious extremists are stoning people they believe to be homosexuals. (Chances are the victim was a Republican, but that’s a detail that has never bothered wingers; they’re perfectly willing to kill each other in order to get at a liberal or two.)

    Well, I’m here to warn you, if Republicans succeed in taking over America, stonings may become commonplace. And not just for being suspected of being gay, or for being accused by a disgruntled co-worker of putting a hex on her car heater. When Republicans impose their theocratic dictatorship on America, marriages will be arranged, and kissing a girl because you love her will get you both stoned to death.

    Just to prepare you for this, let me explain stoning as it is practiced in Sharia communities. The standard procedure is to dig a pit about four feet deep. The woman is covered from head to toe in a burka or chadori, of course. Her hands and feet are bound and she is placed in the pit so only her head, neck, and shoulders are above ground. The stoners (double-entendre is intentional) then gather in a semi-circle and pick up fist-sized rocks. These are thrown with great force at the victim with the intention of striking the head, neck, and spinal cord. After about one to two minutes of rock-throwing, the supervisor shoots the victim in the head to end her suffering in case she isn’t dead or unconscious yet. The procedure with guys is different, usually they’re just shot once, point-blank, in the back of the head. This is why you see Republicans practicing target shooting at a range of six inches. They’re not preparing for a war, they’re preparing to carry out Sharia law. If you see a Republican pointing a handgun at a paper target from six inches away and squinting at the target, he’s probably a Republican cleric.

  11. 14

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @13 should read “and kissing a girl who isn’t your sister” … the edit function wouldn’t let me fix it because when I tried to scroll down it kept popping up to the top of the comment.

  12. 15

    Blue John spews:

    There is that truism, “Choose your enemies carefully, for you will become like them.”

  13. 16

    rhp6033 spews:

    RR: Of course, when liability limits are lowered for certain types of actions (in this case, wrongful death actions), but not for other torts, you tend to find some unfortunate circumstances surrounding the victim’s death – like the tire tracks indicating that after hitting the pedestirian, the car backed up and ran over them a couple of more times, just to make sure.

  14. 17

    Right Stuff spews:

    Darryl may want to get his facts right.

    http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com.....52474.html

    But hey, that doesn’t fit the HA template now does it…Anti-Capitalism, Anti-Christian, etc etc…..

    The Sheep just take the playbook and regurgitate the same tired pablum…
    Here, let me help you all out…

    “@Shoter HA”
    “It was George W Bush’s fault!”
    “Republicans (add insulting remark here)”

    Now that we know it was not a hate crime against homosexuals, or a religiously motivated crime….
    Your anti-christian bigotry is truly exposed….

  15. 19

    rhp6033 spews:

    As TSA was being set up, one of the first articles about the excess and abuse being perpetrated by TSA management was an article about how TSA agents were being recruited in Denver.

    The advertisement for TSA screener positions indicated that the starting pay was going to be around $8.00 per hour, and there was no indication it was going to progress much further than that. So the only ones inclined to apply for the TSA screener jobs were those close to the lowest levels on the pay scales.

    To apply, the applicants had to present themselves in person at the place selected by the agency, be prepared to fill out an application, submit references, and sit for an initial interview.

    The location chosen by the fellows in charge of conducting the interviews was not at a convention center, federal building, or hotel near the Denver airport, where the applicants would work. It was at a golf resort two hours away from the airport, as well as just about anything else. No public transportation was available.

    The “interviewers” stayed at the resort for one or two weeks at government expense, and intervied barely a dozen applicants. Their expenses included some $350 or so per night per person, meals in the gourmet restaurant at the resort, etc. They did, however, improve their golf scores considerably, although their attempt to get reimbursed for greens fees and golf club rentals were denied.

  16. 20

    Right Stuff spews:

    @18
    Yeah, you’re right. I mean what would his brother know about it?

    Let’s believe the statement of the cold blooded murderer…

    Bahhh-Bahhhh Rujax….Your bleating is deafening.

  17. 21

    No patience for fascists spews:

    @17 But hey, that doesn’t fit the HA template now does it…Anti-Capitalism, Anti-Christian, etc etc…..

    You don’t consider nuance and shades of gray. It’s “you are with us or against us”.

    I’m pro new testimonial christian, the kind that promotes love and tolerance. I’m against old testament KKKhristians who promote hate, bigotry and intolerance. I’ve very much against so called “Christians” who use the bible to justify social Darwinism, where if you are poor you must be inferior and only the rich are beloved by god.
    I’m for a thriving diverse economy and strong middle class with a strong chance at upward mobility. I’m against a serf state where corporate monopolies control the American government and keep out competition and charge unfair prices, with a tiny middle class and no social or financial mobility.

    So what kind of christian are you?
    What level of capitalism do you want?

  18. 22

    proud leftist spews:

    RS,
    Uh, I don’t think anyone can read a couple news stories and determine what the “facts” are. Do you have any idea what the brother’s relationship with the accused is? Think it’s possible he’s spinning the story for reasons of his own or his family’s? The killer’s story about why he did what he did is certainly entitled to some weight; dismissing it out of hand, as you want to do, seems rather irresponsible. Tell me, how, after this murder, was the murderer likely to get at retirement accounts?

  19. 23

    spews:

    Right Stuff @17,

    “Darryl may want to get his facts right.”

    And what facts to you believe I’ve gotten wrong?

    “Now that we know it was not a hate crime against homosexuals, or a religiously motivated crime….”

    Wait…what?!? Did you actually READ the article you cited?

    “Your anti-christian bigotry is truly exposed….”

    Holy shit, did you start off your day with a dose of stupid pills or something?

    Here’s a clue for ya…the careful reader will discern that the post isn’t really about Christianity at all….

  20. 24

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @21 It’s been my experience that people who advertise Christianity the most usually practice it the least.

  21. 25

    spews:

    You know in the fifties, tax collections from corporations made up 30+ percent of Federal Government revenues.

    Now it’s down to around 6 percent? And right wingers always whine about high taxes chasing business away.

    What’s up with that?

  22. 26

    SeattleConservative spews:

    The left continues to show its complete devotion to amorality. Any sane person reading this, either that factual news story or MSNBC’s distortion of the facts, as quoted by HA, would feel sorry for the victim and anger toward the perpetrator. Only a hardened leftist would find a way to spin this tragedy into a story condemning Judeo-Christian values.

  23. 27

    spews:

    @20…

    NOTHING, you cretin. That’s my point…your speculation is meaningless.

    Your hatred, bigotry and narrow-mindedness however is palpable.

  24. 28

    Right Stuff spews:

    And what facts to you believe I’ve gotten wrong?

    This one

    “Another death in the hands of a domestic religious extremist:”

    “Wait…what?!? Did you actually READ the article you cited?”

    Yes, I did.
    What’s more believable from reading both articles.

    A. An extrememly religious, kind hearted 28 y/o befriends a 70 dev disabled man out of kindness and faith, and thru that selfless friendship accepts the offer of POA from his 70y/o friend. In addition to POA he agrees to take an ATM card for his friends bank acct and be responsible for his friends money. Then one day……..this 70 homosexual predator makes of move on this kind, christian man and he was left with no other course of action but to stuff a sock full of stones and and kill his friend, because “the bible says too”.

    or

    B) 28y/o mental patient, sees opportunity to take advantage of a kind elderly dev disabled man who works at the hospital he’s been admitted too. 28y/o manipulated elderly man into thinking he’s a devout christian, manipulates elderly man to sign over power of attorney, changes bank info etc and then kills the elderly man for his money….

    My comments about religious biggotry should have been directed toward those who most display it….Not lump all into one bucket.

  25. 29

    Dick Caveat (I'll be the judge of that!) spews:

    re 25: The tax rate on corporate profits is 35%, but by the time they finish with all of the deductions, profits are much smaller.

    Corporations also lie about their revenues and secrete them in offshore accounts.

    Just think: We could have all of those billions right here in the good old US of A — as long as we agreed not to tax it.

  26. 30

    Dick Caveat (I'll be the judge of that!) spews:

    re 28: I think that the point of Darryl’s post implicitly states ‘B’ not ‘A’. But I know how much you enjoy being outraged, so — in the words of Emily Litella — ‘NEVERMIND’.

  27. 31

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    It’s a fact that the federal tax burden has shifted from corporations and the wealthy to working families. Two-thirds of U.S. corporations pay no corporate income tax at all.

  28. 32

    rhp6033 spews:

    A story I saw over the weekend (but forgot to save the link) said that all taxes combined – state, local, and federal – took an average of less than 9% of the average american’s earnings. I thik the story said 8.9%, but I’m rounding upwards since I’m not sure. I also don’t remember if that was per person or per household, which would make a difference. And there is no telling how they accounted for corporations.

    How could this be true, since most sales taxes in this state are at 9% or higher? Well, it’s a national average, which is one thing. Secondly, sales tax in Washington doesn’t include housing, food, prescriptions – a major portion of total income.

    But overall, the number is rather shocking. Not only is 9% a rather astonishingly low figure for total taxation from all sources, it pretty much proves the bankruptcy of the Republican/Tea Party claims that we are paying more in taxes than ever before, or that we are paying too much in taxes to the point where we need a major dismanteling of our government.

    Of course, it’s really not a reduction in federal spending which the Republicans want. The Republicans actually want taxes, they just don’t want to pay them. They want the rest of us, the poor and the middle class, to pay more of the taxes, and less of it to go for benefits to the majority of Americans. Republicans believe the rich are the “creators of wealth” and we should shower our taxe money upon them in the form of no-bid contracts, tax credits, etc., in the hope that a small portion of it will sprinkle down to us. But as your nose will tell you, that’s not money that’s sprinking down on you.

  29. 33

    proud leftist spews:

    32
    Republican shrieking about excessive taxation has nothing to do with reality or historic levels of tax burdens. They have this religious, irrational belief in tax cuts, no matter what, that is impervious to argument. They would worship the Easter bunny before shedding their belief in tax cuts.

  30. 34

    spews:

    @3 Roger Rabbit

    @1 What’s comedic about a religious nut beating an elderly man to death with a sock of rocks?

    wait… was Daryl the christian extremist? i’m confused here.

    @4 Deathfrogg

    HE thinks its funny. He probably laughed at the scene in Schidlers List when the murdercamp commander got bored and started randomly sniping at the inmates.

    What did I say that suggests that?

    @31 Roger Rabbit

    It’s a fact that the federal tax burden has shifted from corporations and the wealthy to working families. Two-thirds of U.S. corporations pay no corporate income tax at all.

    Sad truth indeed. And I don’t think anybody is more keenly aware of this than people like Ron Paul.

  31. 35

    rhp6033 spews:

    I’m well acquainted with the term “rain maker”. In the business world, he (or she) is the guy that has the contacts which brings in the business. The “rain maker” puts on a show of doing the work, but the rest of the firm actually performs the work.

    Now, rich people, by an overwhelming majority, are not “self-made men”. They got their start by having parents, grandparents, or great-grandparents who were self-made men. From their ancestors they received the money which allowed them a considerable step up in the world. But more importantly, they attend the “right” schools where they make lifelong friendships with similarly-advantaged classmates, and cement their social ties with the monied and powerful through country clubs, golfing, and political campaigns. The advantages of this are difficult to overstate.

    Donald Trump may have expanded his empire, but it was his father, Frank Trump, which made the initial millions. Donald Trumps first job was collecting rents from his father’s tenants.

    George W. Bush didn’t pull himself up by the bootstraps in the oil business and politics of Texas, his grandfather was a Connecticut U.S. Senator and millionaire in his own right, who set up his son George H.W. Bush in the oil business in Texas and helped steer him into politics where he became Republican Chairman, CIA head, Ambassador to China, Vice-President, and ultimately President. You can see the advantages of such a hereditary regency when George W. Bush ultimately drove two oil leasing businesses into near-bankruptcy, only to be bailed out by George H.W. Bush’s political supporters and set up as the visible face of a Texas baseball team. Simply put, George W. Bush wasn’t going to be allowed to “fail”.

    What happens is that these rich people get to the point where they make their money not by taking risks and working hard, but by simply taking long lunches with their old classmates and family contacts, and spending a lot of time on the golf course, in the country clubs, and taking various officer positions at the yacht club. Through this, they all have a round-robin of steering contracts to one another’s firms, for which they each take the credit when the work arrives at the firm.

    As time passes by, rainmakers tend to demand a greater and greater percentage of the revenue from the firm, arguing that without them, nobody would have any work. This may be true in a micro-economic sense, in that a firm with a rainmaker tends to bring in more work, involving more money, than those without. But in a macro-economic sense, these rainmakers provide no real benefit to society. In fact, their interests are contrary to society as a whole. Our society would be more efficient if work was given to firms entirely by virtue of price and quality competition. The rainmaker system substitutes an old-boy network instead, one which adds no real value to the economy as a whole, and instead takes money out of the system as their “cut” goes to feed their personal consumption, rather than investment in new business.

    At it’s most extreme example, you have the rainmakers standing astride the economy as a whole, insisting on getting their cut for all business being conducted. It’s quite similar to descriptions of Egypt (before the recent revolution), or organized crime’s “protection rackets”.

    But since the 1980’s the Republicans have been singing the praises of these wealthy “rainmakers” as being “job creators” and “producers”, which is exactly the opposite of their real role.

    So when Republicans start to talk about needing to lower taxes on the wealthy in the name of rewarding the “job creators” and the “producers”, remember that what they are really talking about is rewarding the guys who sit around at the country club parcelling out contracts to one another which would otherwise be apportioned more effeciently. They want you to pay for this several times: in higher taxes on the middle class, in higher prices for products and services to account for their “cut”, and in less money available to businesses for expansion and job creations.

  32. 36

    rhp6033 spews:

    By the way, Republicans in Wisconsin are seeking to silence a Univ. professor who started a blog which was hitting too close to home. They are filing open records requests for all his e-mails which might refer to Republicans or any number of Republicans by name.

    Thought police of the hard right

    The author of the article, Paul Krugman, argues that it is part of a wide-ranging strategy of the far right to discredit anyone who criticizes them, and to cower others into silence. He compares it with the attempt to use the e-mails of climate change scientists to claim that they were unfairly biased, even though their claims about the content and context of the e-mails was proven to be severly distorted.

    But I think Krugman misses the point. They don’t just want to discredit the historian William Cronon. They want to get him fired. They want to find something – anything – from which they could allege that he used his university e-mails for political purposes, which would be a violation of Wisconsin law and university policy, and get him fired. That, they believe, would be a more effective tool in causing his fellow academics to remain silent and cower, afraid to criticize the Republicans or their agenda.

    For his part, Cronan says he is careful not to use his university e-mail for personal purposes. I hope he’s right. It’s awfully hard sometimes during your lunchtime not to forget and fire off an e-mail to your friends which is not directly related to university business.

  33. 37

    spews:

    Right Stuff,

    “This one…“Another death in the hands of a domestic religious extremist:”

    No…you completely misunderstand the post. It isn’t about Christianity at all.

    (Do you seriously believe I am calling for congressional hearings on “the radicalization of American Christians”?)

    Take some smart pills and call me in the morning….

    “What’s more believable from reading both articles.”

    The articles don’t contradict each other.
    (You did notice, didn’t you, that your story link to the basic story that is the same text as my link?)

  34. 39

    Puddybud, identifying Zitz and FartAss as De Fools Dey Are spews:

    Uhhh…that’s SPECULATION, assclown. Like everything else you write.

    Unlike you rujax, who can’t venture off the whackjob liberal website reservation and write something cogent. EVER!

  35. 40

    proud leftist spews:

    rhp @ 35
    But, but, but . . . you’re not saying we don’t have a meritocracy here in the US of A, are you? You couldn’t be saying that the rich didn’t achieve their status through hard work, native ability, and God’s blessing, are you?

  36. 41

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @32 What Republicans want to do is take over the functions now performed by government — plowing snow off streets, educating children, locking up prisoners — and turn them into profit centers for their benefit; which, of course, will make all of those things more expensive for those of us who pay for them. And, as the Pennsylvania juvenile court corrupt case proves, privatization opens the doors to corruption and child abuse.

  37. 42

    Puddybud, identifying Zitz and FartAss as De Fools Dey Are spews:

    Now onto Roger Dumb Rabbit… Do you actually think I would allow this BULLHSITTIUM to pass? Nope You Dope!

    Hmmm… your commentary refutes itself…

    Consolidating domestic security operations into a single federal agency was proposed by Democrats, not Republicans;

    Then you say…

    Under Republican management, the 40,000-employee TSA — which hasn’t caught a single terrorist

    Well Roger Dumb Rabbit you contradict yourself. In fact now under the two Obama years the record is unblemished… Butt we see from the link under Obama’s regime someone slipped by!

    2. The Bush administration held up legislation creating the Department of Homeland Security for over a year, holding America’s safety hostage to Republicans’ insistence that DHS employees never have the right to join a union;

    And we now see how well the TSA ran eh Roger Dumb Rabbit?

    became one of the most bloated and inefficient of all federal bureaucracies;

    Oh really Roger Dumb Rabbit? This didn’t happen under GWBush now did it? And we see what DUMMOCRAPTS in Congress demanded of TSA. Oh look this happened on Obama’s watch Roger Dumb Rabbit. Or how about this one Roger Dumb Rabbit? Another pox on your house!

    Now onto the Wiccan… Seems she was one of the best in Albany until someone in the Albany TSA management chain got tired of her Wiccanism. Now before FartASS claims I jockstrap the Devil pfffffffffft… wrong again fool. I never heard of her and am on record against Satanistic practices especially yours FartASS.
    Now since this happened in 2009 in Albany, a very liberal city, Obama won 86,096 to 47,629 in 2008 presidential erection, so there was a high probability (almost 2:1) these were DUMMOCRAPTIC Workers and Managers Roger Dumb Rabbit. Having another Cuyahoga County, Ohio or Stafford County, VA moment Roger Dumb Rabbit?

    The rest of your RANT is useless gibberish! Get some oxygen tanks quickly!

  38. 43

    Puddybud, identifying Zitz and FartAss as De Fools Dey Are spews:

    Well rhp6033@35, we can’t blame Bush for these 2011 high oil prices eh? And when the summer gasoline blends come online due to the environmentalists, we’ll probably see $5.00 a gallon gas. So how are those gulf oil leases working out for you rhp6033? Aren’t you glad Obama stopped almost all oil exploration, now making us more dependent on Arabian oil?

    Another in the long line of HA leftist Cass Sunstein useless Homer Simpson malleable idiots.

  39. 44

    spews:

    43 – Remember the “freedom car” Puddybud?

    Bushie initiative. 1.5 billion of spending or so. They’re rolling off the assembly lines right?

  40. 45

    spews:

    am on record against Satanistic practices

    Yeah, you’re a shining example of someone who has taken the lessons of 1 Timothy 6:10 to heart.

  41. 46

    Puddybud, identifying Zitz and FartAss as De Fools Dey Are spews:

    @44, yeah let’s remember it was an extension of the original plan launched with great fanfare by President Bill Clinton in 1993. (Wait… you can’t remember without a databaze)

    More chronological lunacy from the chronological lunatic ylb.

    EPIC FAIL AGAIN!

  42. 47

    Puddybud, identifying Zitz and FartAss as De Fools Dey Are spews:

    Wow ylb, grasping at straws again? Where do I claim to love money? I love making money so I can spend it foolish moron. Money is not my idol you moronic twit. I work very hard to make it so I can enjoy spending it. We all know how “hard you worked” ylb creating HA blog databaze. HAHAHAHA Butt, I also give much to charity, so if I really loved money I would be cheep and miserly like your sorry ASS!

    Tell us again how you helped:

    Katrina Victims?
    Banda Aceh Tsunami Victims?
    Phuket Tsunami Victims?
    Japanese Tsunami Victims?

    How about Union Gospel Mission?

    A Forest of Crickets chirping.

    bwaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaaaaa

  43. 48

    spews:

    Where do I claim to love money?

    You claim you’re better because you have more money. You measure yourself by money. You talk about money all the time.

    Your charity talk is just hiding your love of money.

    and about Clinton’s car intiative – that was for a high mileage vehicle (80+ mpg) – not a car running on hydrogen like the Bushie stuff..

    Leave a link next time.

  44. 49

    Puddybud, identifying Zitz and FartAss as De Fools Dey Are spews:

    You claim you’re better because you have more money. You measure yourself by money. You talk about money all the time.

    Oh really ylb? it’s you liberal elites who claim you are much better than us because you make more money. What a moron! So Prove It. Use that vaulted Databaze! Watch the out of context quotes the monomaniacal chronological idiot will try and use!

    Leave a link next time.

    I don’t do the bidding of the HA mental cellar dweller!

    Tell us again how you helped:

    Katrina Victims?
    Banda Aceh Tsunami Victims?
    Phuket Tsunami Victims?
    Japanese Tsunami Victims?

    How about Union Gospel Mission?

    Anything ylb you helped in the last few years. Be a man, demonstrate some cojones!

  45. 50

    spews:

    49 – zzzzzZZZZZzzzz.. Please post a link of anyone here claiming they’re better than right wingers because of money.

    I for one think we’re just on the right side of the issues. That’s the most important difference. Why right wingers cling to such mean spirited policy ideas is really beyond me. You can only conclude that it’s only for the benefit of those who hold the purse strings.

    I can list all the relief I’ve donated to over the years and you’ll only have one response – I’ve done nothing. Which is a lie. Why do I say this? You’ve done it before.

  46. 51

    Puddybud, identifying Zitz and FartAss as De Fools Dey Are spews:

    zzzzzZZZZZzzzz – Your standard quote when BUSTED!

    Please post a link of anyone here claiming they’re better than right wingers because of money.

    I don’t answer to you foolish one! This blog has it everyday!

    Prove you’ve donated to various causes! Show up at a DL and provide the proof. I bet my cheapest one year will DESTROY your 5 year total! Maybe 7 years! Could be 10 years… who knows. Show up and put up!

    Watch for it, he’ll weasel out with something stupid about not wanting to be seen in a room with me.

    Deal?

  47. 52

    Puddybud, identifying Zitz and FartAss as De Fools Dey Are spews:

    ylb here’s an easy one…

    I make more money and pay lower taxes by sitting on my fat rabbit ass producing nothing!

    Roger Dumb Rabbit

    Not because you asked for it, just because I can prove it over and over and over without wasting time creating a databaze from other people’s work!

  48. 53

    spews:

    51 – zzzzZZZZZzzz.. Here we go again… If I go to a DL – it’s to meet and share a couple pints with people I like and respect, not get into a pissing match with someone I don’t care to meet EVER…

    Why? Here it is (one example, anyway):

    I bet my cheapest one year will DESTROY your 5 year total!

    There you go again. Measuring yourself by money.

    NO DEAL!

    52 – LMAO!!! You are totally freaking BLIND to parody and mocking of right wing attitudes.

  49. 54

    spews:

    39. Puddybud, identifying Zitz and FartAss as De Fools Dey Are spews:

    Uhhh…that’s SPECULATION, assclown. Like everything else you write.

    Unlike you rujax, who can’t venture off the whackjob liberal website reservation and write something cogent. EVER!

    03/28/2011 at 6:23 pm

    …and this dumb sonofabitch should talk.

    Fuck you asshole.

  50. 55

    spews:

    add @54…

    I like to read FACT-CHECKED sites thank you very much…instead of the whack-job bullshit you read…

    clownhall…wing-nut daily…the fucking washington times for christ’s sake.

    I’m sooooo impressed.

    Oh…please run Herman Cain for President. I crave the comic relief.

  51. 56

    spews:

    I love making money so I can spend it

    On what? Charity is good but I don’t see you spending it anywhere to close to a majority of your income.

    Your family? Check… I hope they don’t feel left out of loop. By the way, it’s written that charity begins at home.

    Savings for the future? 401K and such? That would be wise. I can’t imagine anyone at any company standing for your miserable company any longer than necessary.

    And the rest? I can only guess self aggrandizement of the kind you indulge in every time you come here to get closer to 30K comments. (You’re pretty much over that anyway.)

    mylaptop:~$ b hacols -f c -c handle:phrase~puddybud -C
    +——-+
    | count |
    +——-+
    | 28432 |
    +——-+
    1 row in set

  52. 57

    Puddybud, identifying Zitz and FartAss as De Fools Dey Are spews:

    Fuck you asshole.

    Your best work yet rujax! I bet you can “improve” on that!

    Try again!

  53. 58

    Puddybud, identifying Zitz and FartAss as De Fools Dey Are spews:

    On what? Charity is good but I don’t see you spending it anywhere to close to a majority of your income.

    And you’ll never know moronic one!

    I can’t imagine anyone at any company standing for your miserable company any longer than necessary.

    Really wireless one? And how would you know sitting at home “working so hard”.

    Talking about Boooooooooooooooooring conversation, I’m going to sleep. You can talk to the hand!

  54. 59

    Puddybud, identifying Zitz and FartAss as De Fools Dey Are spews:

    There you go again. Measuring yourself by money.

    Not at all moronic one. You love to ASSume things you know nothing about.

  55. 60

    spews:

    Really wireless one?

    Yes O one for which nobody gives a “rat’s ass” about his “payload”.

    Still believe I have those “deleted comments” in my database all knowing one?

  56. 63

    proud leftist spews:

    Goldy,
    You must be proud of your handiwork here. This thread, for instance, is filled with compelling dialogue and earnest confrontation. Ah, hell, I’m at least as guilty as most in simply bashing. What else might we do when the other side cannot engage in simple policy discussions?

  57. 66

    spews:

    @64 Rujax!

    You’re a religious extremist…AND a miserable fuck.

    Poor Rujax… he’s getting picked on at school! The big kids just torment him and he can’t take it anymore.

  58. 69

    John425 spews:

    “…which leads me to ask, when, oh when, will Congress hold hearings on the radicalization of American Christians?”

    Yeah, like those f**king Jesuits who tried to break into Bangor sub base. Life imprisonment for those old farts wouldn’t be too much of a sentence.

  59. 70

    NPR keeps getting PWN3D spews:

    you can so tell when rujaxoff starts getting frustrated…he starts foaming at the mouth and his posts are reduced to “fuck you” or something similar.

    how old is this tard? 23?

  60. 71

    Michael spews:

    @69

    Yeah, like those f**king Jesuits who tried to break into Bangor sub base.

    They didn’t try to break into Bangor, they broke into Bangor. How secure of a place is it when an 82 year priest old can break in?

  61. 72

    spews:

    70. NPR keeps getting PWN3D spews:

    you can so tell when rujaxoff starts getting frustrated…he starts foaming at the mouth and his posts are reduced to “fuck you” or something similar.

    how old is this tard? 23?

    03/29/2011 at 3:02 pm

    If ANY of you right-wing assclowns could ever put forward a good, reasoned, fact-based reason why it’s a good idea to destroy the middle class and punish innocent women and children so the richest 1% in this country and multi-national MEGA corporations can pay less…or NOTHING in taxes and ship American jobs out of the country (and get TAX BREAKS for it)…if any of you can do that….I will try to take you seriously.

    …but you can’t so you are only deserving of scorn and ridicule.

  62. 73

    Puddybud, identifying Zitz and FartAss as De Fools Dey Are spews:

    For the rujaxoff… At least proud leftist loves ya! When have you ever put forth a cogent reasoned argument? Never. It’s a whackjob leftist website copy and paste or a “fuck you” from your fingers. And you have the audacity to complain about we who think right?

    While you and others suck on Koch, here is the rich taking it from the poor and giving it to the DUMBOCRAPTS:

    Paul Allen…
    $32,900 Republican
    $205,750 Democrat
    $60,000 Special
    Total: $298,650

    Ron Burkle…
    $12,500 Republican
    $1,433,000 Democrat
    $324,200 special
    Total: $1,769,700

    Eli Broad…
    $26,200 Republican
    $747,519 Democrat
    $413,100 Special
    Total: $1,186,819

    Jeff Bezos…
    $2,000 Republican
    $16,000 Democrat
    $55,000 Special
    Total: $73,000

    Jeffrey Epstein… convicted child sex offender
    $2,750 Republican
    $106,500 Democrat
    $33,000 Special
    Total: $142,250

    Warren Buffett…
    $12,900 Republican
    $73,500 Democrat
    $41,000 Special
    Total: $127,400

    David Geffen…
    $7,500 Republican
    $1,022,081 Democrat
    $1,000 Independent
    $371,919 Special
    Total: $1,402,500

    Steve Jobs…
    $1,000 Republican
    $209,000 Democrat
    $19,000 Special
    Total: $229,000

    Charles Kushner…
    $3,000 Republican
    $1,288,200 Democrat
    $154,500 Special
    Total: $1,445,700

    Ralph Lauren…
    $3,250 Republican
    $33,100 Democrat
    $27,000 Special
    Total: $63,350

    Leonard Lauder…
    $86,600 Republican
    $600,284 Democrat
    $124,000 Special
    Total: $810,884

    George Lucas…
    $000000 Republican
    $37,500 Democrat
    $32,400 Special
    Total: $69,900

    Pierre Omidyar…
    $6,000 Republican
    $62,500 Democrat
    $154,600 Special
    Total: $223,100

    Kevin O’Leary…
    $6,250 Republican
    $32,700 Democrat
    $51,000 Special
    Total: $89,950

    Ron Perelman
    $89,800 Republican
    $245,270 Democrat
    $285,800 Special
    Total: $620,870

    Penny Pritzker…
    $27,000 Republican
    $355,074 Democrat
    $265,868 Special
    Total: $647,942

    Sumner Redstone…
    $19,800 Republican
    $153,825 Democrat
    $147,700 Special
    Total: $321,325

    R Allen Stanford… Jon DeVore’s favrit “investor”
    $122,800 Republican
    $634,300 Democrat
    $160,000 Special
    total: $917,100

    George Soros… ylb’s bud
    $8,500 Republican
    $668,805 Democrat
    $3,022,532 Special
    Total: $3,699,837

    Steven Spielberg
    $1,000 Republican
    $889,173 Democrat
    $192,350 Special
    Total: $1,082,523

    Ted Turner
    $22,500 Republican
    $164,850 Democrat
    $1,000 Reform
    $202,274 Special
    Total: $390,624

    When you look at their specials, they are giving to the DUMMOCRAPTIC causes!

    rujaxoff = douchebag!

  63. 74

    King Max the First spews:

    @72

    maybe when you grow up someday, and pay taxes like the rest of us, you would get taken seriously.

    as it stands now, you are just a leach off of the rest of us like YLB is.

  64. 77

    spews:

    @76 we’re both religious extremist, rujax! the best kind, too. the self-worshiping kind. only my god is more awesome than yours. i am yama, lord of death! LMAO

  65. 78

    Dick Caveat (I'll be the judge of that!) spews:

    re 74: “maybe when you grow up someday, and pay taxes like the rest of us, you would get taken seriously.”

    So, only taxpayers are to be taken seriously? Do you even think about what you say?

    Are you saying that the companies who hide their money offshore and pay little or no taxes need to grow up and start paying their fair share?

  66. 79

    Dick Caveat (I'll be the judge of that!) spews:

    re 73: So what’s your point: that smart billionaires realize that people who earn a living wage will buy their products and allow them to remain rich.

    So, you are saying that these rich people are stupid for donating to Democrats??

  67. 81

    spews:

    73. Puddybud, identifying Zitz and FartAss as De Fools Dey Are spews:

    For the rujaxoff… At least proud leftist loves ya! When have you ever put forth a cogent reasoned argument? Never. It’s a whackjob leftist website copy and paste or a “fuck you” from your fingers. And you have the audacity to complain about we who think right?

    If ANY of you right-wing assclowns could ever put forward a good, reasoned, fact-based reason why it’s a good idea to destroy the middle class and punish innocent women and children so the richest 1% in this country and multi-national MEGA corporations can pay less…or NOTHING in taxes and ship American jobs out of the country (and get TAX BREAKS for it)…if any of you can do that….I will try to take you seriously.

    …but you can’t so you are only deserving of scorn and ridicule.

    And that goes double for the christianist hypocrite p’dumbski.

    Didn’t your jesus say “feed the poor, heal the sick”?

  68. 82

    Puddybud, identifying Zitz and FartAss as De Fools Dey Are spews:

    Fool of Fools@81,

    Obama’s favrit DOMMUCRAPTIC loving CEO GE corp paid no taxes.

    Talk to the hand moron!

  69. 83

    Puddybud, identifying Zitz and FartAss as De Fools Dey Are spews:

    Of course rujaxoff missed Steve Jobs… who makes all his iPads, iPhones, etc. overseas NOT using American labor and he gives large to the DUMMOCRAPTS.

    You are such a moron rujaxoff!

  70. 84

    spews:

    83. Puddybud, identifying Zitz and FartAss as De Fools Dey Are spews:

    Of course rujaxoff missed Steve Jobs… who makes all his iPads, iPhones, etc. overseas NOT using American labor and he gives large to the DUMMOCRAPTS.

    You are such a moron rujaxoff!

    03/31/2011 at 5:29 am

    You can’t answer a simple question.

    You won’t answer it because you do not have an answer.

    Fraud. Liar.