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Poll Analysis: Romney slips

by Darryl — Wednesday, 7/4/12, 3:29 pm


Obama Romney
99.9% probability of winning 0.1% probability of winning
Mean of 327 electoral votes Mean of 211 electoral votes

Last week’s analysis showed President Barack Obama leading Romney with an average of 323 to 215 electoral votes in a hypothetical election held then. The results suggested Obama had a 99.3% to Romney’s 0.7% probability of winning.

Since then, eleven new polls have been released (although only a couple of the polls were administered after last Thursday’s Supreme Court ruling on the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act):

start end sample % % %
st poll date date size MOE O R diff
AL Capital Survey Research Center 06-Jul 06-Sep 841 3.3 33.9 55.8 R+21.9
AZ Rasmussen 26-Jun 26-Jun 500 4.5 41 54 R+13
FL WeAskAmerica 01-Jul 02-Jul 1127 2.9 46.1 45.3 O+0.8
FL Quinnipiac 19-Jun 25-Jun 1200 2.8 45 41 O+4
MA PPP 22-Jun 24-Jun 902 3.3 55 39 O+16
MI Marist 24-Jun 25-Jun 1078 3.0 44 39 O+5
NH Marist 24-Jun 25-Jun 1029 3.0 43 42 O+1
NC Civitas 29-Jun 01-Jul 558 4.2 45 50 R+5
NC Marist 24-Jun 25-Jun 1019 3.1 46 44 O+2
OH Quinnipiac 19-Jun 25-Jun 1237 2.8 47 38 O+9
PA Quinnipiac 19-Jun 25-Jun 1252 2.8 45 39 O+6

Alabama is solid for Romney (+21.9%), as Massachusetts is for Obama (+16%). Arizona is turning into a solid Romney state. He has led in the past five polls, going back to mid-April.

Obama solidifies the three “classic swing states.” In Florida, Obama leads in both polls by +0.8% and +4%. Combined with the one other recent poll, Obama would be expected to take the state now with a 93% probability.

In Ohio, Obama has a +9% in the new poll, giving him the lead in both current OH polls; he would be expected to win the state now with a 99% probability. Romney seemed to made some headway in late May and early June, but that “surge” now seems transient: ObamaRomney04Jun12-04Jul12Ohio

The Ohio story is repeated for Pennsylvania where Obama has a modest +6% lead over Romney, leads in both current polls, and would win with a 99% probability. The difference is a lack of evidence for a transient Romeny surge for the state: ObamaRomney04Jun12-04Jul12Pennsylvania

North Carolina is interesting. Romney goes up +5% in one poll and Obama goes up by +2% in the other new poll. Romney now leads in three of the four current polls, and would be expected to take the state with a 71% probability: ObamaRomney04Jun12-04Jul12North Carolina

Michigan has Obama up by a moderate +5% over Romney. The state has gone from a tie one year ago, to a solid Obama lead since January, back down to a small advantage for Obama in the past few weeks:

ObamaRomney04Jun12-04Jul12Michigan

Finally, the new New Hampshire poll gives Obama a not-so-impressive +1% lead over Romney. Still, the larger trend and the recent flurry of polls has the state painted blue:

ObamaRomney04Jun12-04Jul12New Hampshire

With these new polls (and some older ones dropping out), the Monte Carlo analysis gives Obama wins 99,860 times and Romney wins 140 times (including the 41 ties). Obama receives (on average) 327 (+4) to Romney’s 211 (-4) electoral votes. In an election held now, Obama would win with a 99.9% probability.

Electoral College Map

Alabama Alaska Arizona Arkansas California Colorado Connecticut Delaware Florida Georgia Hawaii Idaho Illinois Indiana Iowa Kansas Kentucky Lousiana Maine Maryland Massachusettes Michigan Minnesota Mississippi Missouri Montana Nebraska Nevada New Hampshire New Jersey New Mexico New York North Carolina North Dakota Ohio Oklahoma Oregon Pennsylvania Rhode Island South Carolina South Dakota Tennessee Texas Utah Vermont Virginia D.C. Washington West Virginia Wisconsin Wyoming

Electoral College Map

Georgia Alaska Arizona Arkansas California Colorado Delaware Connecticut Florida Mississippi Alabama Hawaii Idaho Illinois Indiana Iowa Kansas Kentucky Louisiana Maine Maryland Massachusetts Michigan Minnesota Missouri Montana Nebraska Nevada New Hampshire New Jersey New Mexico New York North Carolina North Dakota Ohio Oklahoma Oregon Pennsylvania Rhode Island South Carolina South Dakota Tennessee Texas Utah Vermont Virginia D.C. Washington West Virginia Wisconsin Wyoming

Here is the distribution of electoral votes [FAQ] from the simulations:

Ten most probable electoral vote outcomes for Obama:

  • 328 electoral votes with a 4.52% probability
  • 322 electoral votes with a 4.40% probability
  • 323 electoral votes with a 3.94% probability
  • 329 electoral votes with a 3.76% probability
  • 334 electoral votes with a 2.63% probability
  • 313 electoral votes with a 2.60% probability
  • 333 electoral votes with a 2.56% probability
  • 325 electoral votes with a 2.45% probability
  • 319 electoral votes with a 2.44% probability
  • 337 electoral votes with a 2.40% probability

After 100,000 simulations:

  • Obama wins 99.9%, Romney wins 0.1%.
  • Average (SE) EC votes for Obama: 326.6 (15.9)
  • Average (SE) EC votes for Romney: 211.4 (15.9)
  • Median (95% CI) EC votes for Obama: 328 (293, 357)
  • Median (95% CI) EC votes for Romney: 210 (181, 245)

Each column of this table shows the electoral vote total aggregated by different criteria for the probability of winning a state (Safe=100%, Strong=90%+, Leans=60%+, Weak=50%+):

Threshold Safe + Strong + Leans + Weak
Safe Obama 142
Strong Obama 144 286
Leans Obama 36 36 322
Weak Obama 6 6 6 328
Weak Romney 1 1 1 210
Leans Romney 39 39 209
Strong Romney 132 170
Safe Romney 38

This table summarizes results by state. Click on the poll count to see the individual polls included for the state.

0 0 EC # Total % % Obama Romney
8 4 Votes polls Votes Obama Romney % wins % wins
AL 9 1* 754 37.8 62.2 0.0 100.0
AK 3 0* (0) (100)
AZ 11 2 1227 46.4 53.6 3.5 96.5
AR 6 1* 679 36.8 63.2 0.0 100.0
CA 55 1* 1465 61.7 38.3 100.0 0.0
CO 9 3 2149 52.2 47.8 92.9 7.1
CT 7 1* 1239 56.8 43.2 100.0 0.0
DE 3 0* (100) (0)
DC 3 0* (100) (0)
FL 29 3 3557 51.8 48.2 93.1 6.9
GA 16 1* 404 43.3 56.7 3.1 96.9
HI 4 1* 517 64.8 35.2 100.0 0.0
ID 4 0* (0) (100)
IL 20 1* 546 61.5 38.5 100.0 0.0
IN 11 1* 447 45.0 55.0 7.0 93.0
IA 6 2 1432 50.2 49.8 54.2 45.8
KS 6 1* 442 45.0 55.0 7.2 92.8
KY 8 1* 528 45.5 54.5 6.7 93.3
LA 8 1* 542 41.1 58.9 0.2 99.8
ME 2 1 415 58.6 41.4 99.3 0.7
ME1 1 1* 488 64.8 35.2 100.0 0.0
ME2 1 1* 421 53.7 46.3 85.4 14.6
MD 10 1* 792 62.4 37.6 100.0 0.0
MA 11 1 848 58.5 41.5 100.0 0.0
MI 16 6 5066 51.0 49.0 84.7 15.3
MN 10 1* 904 58.1 41.9 100.0 0.0
MS 6 1* 717 40.0 60.0 0.0 100.0
MO 10 1 455 46.2 53.8 12.4 87.6
MT 3 1 372 45.2 54.8 8.7 91.3
NE 2 1 553 43.4 56.6 1.4 98.6
NE1 1 1* 389 45.5 54.5 10.2 89.8
NE2 1 1* 252 49.6 50.4 47.2 52.8
NE3 1 1* 284 35.9 64.1 0.1 99.9
NV 6 1 450 53.3 46.7 83.9 16.1
NH 4 3 1725 51.4 48.6 78.8 21.2
NJ 14 1* 947 62.9 37.1 100.0 0.0
NM 5 1* 417 57.8 42.2 98.7 1.3
NY 29 1 758 62.8 37.2 100.0 0.0
NC 15 4 2664 49.3 50.7 29.1 70.9
ND 3 1 569 42.9 57.1 1.0 99.0
OH 18 2 1663 53.9 46.1 98.9 1.0
OK 7 1* 448 30.4 69.6 0.0 100.0
OR 7 1 631 54.4 45.6 93.8 6.2
PA 20 2 1909 53.5 46.5 98.6 1.4
RI 4 1* 495 59.4 40.6 99.9 0.1
SC 9 1* 1833 51.7 48.3 84.7 15.3
SD 3 1* 442 44.3 55.7 4.9 95.1
TN 11 1* 654 46.0 54.0 7.7 92.3
TX 38 1* 460 38.9 61.1 0.1 99.9
UT 6 1 1149 27.7 72.3 0.0 100.0
VT 3 1* 528 67.8 32.2 100.0 0.0
VA 13 1 1010 47.4 52.6 12.1 87.9
WA 12 2 1386 56.2 43.8 100.0 0.0
WV 5 1* 373 40.8 59.2 0.7 99.3
WI 10 3 2157 52.0 48.0 90.3 9.7
WY 3 0 (0) (100)

* An older poll was used (i.e. no recent polls exist).

Details of the methods are given in the FAQ.

The most recent analysis in this match-up can be found from this page.

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  1. 1

    Politically Incorrect spews:

    Wednesday, 7/4/12 at 4:23 pm

    Don’t worry – Obama will ge re-elected in 2012.

  2. 2

    Michael spews:

    Wednesday, 7/4/12 at 6:42 pm

    Alabama is solid for Romney (+21.9%), as Massachusetts is for Obama (+16%). Arizona is turning into a solid Romney state. He has led in the past five polls, going back to mid-April.

    MA = 11 electoral college votes V. 9 for AL, so fairly evenly matched up there. The differences being that MA has a hell of a lot of money, where AL’s flat broke, Boston has a big media market with out of state reach, where no one gives a fuck what anyone in AL has to say, & of course Romney’s losing bad in his home state where he used to be governor. Losing your home state never looks good, as Al Gore can tell you.

  3. 3

    yd spews:

    Thursday, 7/5/12 at 1:36 am

    At least JFK had the sense to fight Marxism and Communism. This GOV takeover everything hack is going to go down!

  4. 4

    Liberal Scientist is a a dirty fucking hippie spews:

    Thursday, 7/5/12 at 7:26 am

    Romney’s losing bad in his home state where he used to be governor.

    I could never figure out which was his ‘home state’. Is it MA? NH? MI? CA (remember seaside La Jolla manse)?

    Has anyone ever been elected President while losing the state they were governor of? Has anyone ever been elected President while losing their ‘home state’? All three ‘home states’?

  5. 5

    Better Cheddar (remember Wisconsin) spews:

    Thursday, 7/5/12 at 7:29 am

    Right on, brother. Cuba’s huge. So’s China.

  6. 6

    Liberal Scientist is a a dirty fucking hippie spews:

    Thursday, 7/5/12 at 7:33 am

    I think the Ohio numbers suggest that attacks on Romney using Bain/vulture meme are working.

    Also, did you see the Romney interview in which he drew the distinction with the Supremes saying the ACA was a tax, but he didn’t agree that it was a tax, but they’ve spoken? I’ve rarely seen him smarmier or more unctuous – really very repellent and manifestly dishonest, with some condescension thrown in for good measure – the man is unlikeable, and I think perhaps unelectable.

    Also interesting in NC, if you look at trends within a pollsters numbers, the Civitas poll (which I think is a Republican outfit) has Romney’s lead shrinking between 10/11 -> 1/12 -> now. Moreover, Ras only has Romney up by 1 or 2. I think NC is going to be close.

  7. 7

    rhp6033 spews:

    Thursday, 7/5/12 at 7:36 am

    I heard some comments that Republican delegates aren’t too happy about going to Tampa in August. It’s already hot enough, but Tampa in August?????

    Usually a national convention helps that party get a boost in the polls – it’s like bombarding a city with thousands of missionaries and their families, all preaching the gospel of their party. I think the Preseident stopped cold an attempted GOP resurgence in Colorado in 2008 – but, of course, only a month or two later the economy pretty much sealed the deal.

    But it may have a lot to do with how the delegates act in their city. If the Republicans go down there preaching family values and promoting themselves as Christians, but end up drunk and causing a ruckus at the local strip bars, it’s not going to help their cause. If they skimp on tipping the waiters/waistresses at the I-Hop, then that’s going to resonate with the working class voters, especially with Romney and the Republican Party being so vulnerable in the “class warfare” department.

  8. 8

    Darryl spews:

    Thursday, 7/5/12 at 8:24 am

    Liberal Scientist,

    Civitas is definitely a right wing “think” tank. Their pollster has usually been National Research, Inc. of Holmdel, NJ, which is definitely a Republican pollster.

    Nevertheless, their NC polls had a pretty good reputation in the 2008 election season. Their final poll taken in October 2008 had Obama with a +0.5% lead (Obama 46.49%, McCain 45.98%). The actual 2008 election results was a +0.33 win by Obama (Obama 49.69%, McCain 49.36%).

    But their early polls for the 2012 election season have been criticized as being outliers compared to the multiple PPP and a Magellan Strategies poll. Perhaps because of this, Civitas switched to using SurveyUSA this month.

  9. 9

    gator spews:

    Thursday, 7/5/12 at 8:39 am

    I recently saw an article that said the poll of all polls had Bush at 49.5% Approval on Election Day 2004. Obama is currently at 47.7%. Certainly it is about state polls, but I think this is telling. Obama cannot seem to get above 48%.

    The problem incumbents historically have is undecideds generally break against them.

    Anyway, I suspect Obama will win but it will come down to Florida & Ohio. If Obama takes one of them, he will win. Romney needs both of them plus a little bit. I think NC will go for Romney because Andy Griffith, a huge Obama supporter in 2008, died without doing another ad for Obama. Not sure if he even endorsed Obama. Seems silly, but it’s friggin’ NC.
    Yawlers loved Andy.

  10. 10

    gator spews:

    Thursday, 7/5/12 at 8:42 am

    rhp, have you noticed lots of Dems are skipping the dem convention to try to avoid being tied to obama? interesting and the only explanation is obama is viewed as toxic for many of these candidates in swing states/districts.

  11. 11

    Serial Conservative spews:

    Thursday, 7/5/12 at 9:35 am

    [Deleted — see HA Comment Policy]

  12. 12

    Better Cheddar (remember Wisconsin) spews:

    Thursday, 7/5/12 at 9:39 am

    [Deleted — see HA Comment Policy]

  13. 13

    Serial Conservative spews:

    Thursday, 7/5/12 at 9:42 am

    [Deleted — see HA Comment Policy]

  14. 14

    rhp6033 spews:

    Thursday, 7/5/12 at 12:18 pm

    [Deleted — see HA Comment Policy]

  15. 15

    OneLessFixie604 spews:

    Thursday, 7/5/12 at 3:14 pm

    What’s really telling for me is how few über-red states are listed as safe for Romney. Aside from Mormon country (UT, ID, WY), the only safe Romney states are the Deep South shitholes of AR, OK and AL. TX is not safe for Romney? MS, GA, TN, KY? WTF??

    Here, I think, is the really big elephant in the living room: Romney is a Mormon, and a large chunk of the toothless Bubba vote (a/k/a the Republican/GOP base) won’t vote for him for love or money for that reason. McCain had the problem that he wasn’t viewed as a “true conservative,” which Romney has in spades (his claim to be “severely conservative” at CPAC 2012 notwithstanding), but McCain didn’t have the Mormon baggage. And if states like TX aren’t showing as “safe Romney” this late in the game, he’s in big trouble.

  16. 16

    Benjamin spews:

    Friday, 7/6/12 at 4:24 pm

    Darryl, you need to put Politifact’s shit in the street regarding their recent ruling of truth to fat ass NJ governor chrasshat’s statement that the election is as of now a statistical dead heat. Please go check it out.

  17. 17

    rhp6033 spews:

    Friday, 7/6/12 at 4:39 pm

    # 13: These may be “red” states, but don’t forget that the urban areas tend to vote Democratic. The urban areas continue to grow, and the rural areas continue to suffer de-population. If enough conservative voters stay home in November due to concerns of Romney’s mormanism, there may be a (remote) shot at the Democrats winning those states.

    I have some relatives that moved from the Orlando area to some property they bought for retirement in southern Georgia. They are dependibly Republican. But they point out that the youth in that area are “lost”. There simply aren’t any jobs available, and haven’t been for some time. Local growers have gotten accostomed to paying piece-work wages to migrant workers, and local teens can’t build a future in the U.S. on the wages they want to pay for back-breaking work in the hot Georgia sun. So there is a huge explosion of meth use, and it’s attendent consequences, as the youth seek some way to forget their troubles. You’ve got to wonder how that’s going to affect the voting demographics in those areas.

  18. 18

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Friday, 7/6/12 at 4:39 pm

    @13 “won’t vote for him … for that reason”

    They have an even better reason to not vote for him: He’s a two-faced flip-flopper and prevaricator who tells people what he thinks they want to hear. In short, he’s got a trust problem.

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