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Today in Debt the Ceiling Hostage Situation:

Comments

  1. 1

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Yay! A new open thread! Yesterday, after the debt deal was announced, I predicted the stock market would continue slithering lower, and that’s exactly what it’s doing today. The Dow is currently off about 100 points.

    Reasons?

    First of all, the debt deal still has to pass Congress, and that’s not a sure thing as plenty of congress critters (and their constituents) dislike it.

    But mainly, the market is reacting to non-debt-issue factors. First and foremost among these is growing evidence that the U.S. economy is sliding into a double-dip recession.

    Also, anyone who understands economics, which includes all professional money managers and most investors, realizes that the debt deal reflects a government policy approach that is likely to undermine economic recovery — everyone knows that in a weak economy government policy should be stimulative, not austere.

    Finally, there was a general expectation that the strong corporate earnings underpinning the stock market’s comeback following the 2009 crash would weaken going forward, and not only because of the weak economy, but also because the profit gains of 2009-2010 were a one-time that resulted from unrepeatable productivity gains that came from laying off workers during the Great Recession and making the remaining workers work harder.

  2. 2

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    MSNBC Poll: Public Disses Debt Deal

    “Do you think the debt deal is good for the country?”

    1. 4.9% — “Yes, Washington is making a responsible effort to fix the nation’s long-term fiscal problems.”

    2. 12.4% — “Yes, the deal stinks but Congress had to do something quickly to save America’s ‘AAA’ rating.”

    3. 56.8% — “No, the deal relies too much on cutting spending for important government programs without asking more from wealthy individuals and corporations.”

    4. 20.7% — “No, the proposed cuts don’t do enough to bring entitlement programs and other government spending under control.”

    5. 5.2% — “Not sure, there aren’t enough details to make a call.”

    http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com.....he-country

  3. 3

    rhp6033 spews:

    RR @ #1: Note that under the debt deal, the Republicans have taken off the table just about every tool the Obama administration has to keep the U.S. economy from going into a double-dip rescession.

    It’s pretty clear that’s exactly what they want. They want unemployment above 10% going into the 2012 elections, and by blaming Obama they will try to cash in on voter disatisfaction.

  4. 4

    rhp6033 spews:

    In the meantime, Ken Simac, the Republican Tea Party guy who’s challenging Jim Holperin (D-Wis) in one of the Wisconsin recall elections, compared public schools to the Nazi regime. Apparantly apopletic that a Christmas song wouldn’t be allowed as part of a school performance, he went on to rage against public schools teaching sex ed to kindergardeners, and claimed that teachers threaten to “blow the heads off” students who dont’ pay attention to teachings about carbon emissions. (His source apparantly is Glenn Beck).

    His post on the Patriot Action Network (a Tea Party site) was taken down shortly after he won the nomination, but it remains in the Google cache:

    Ken Semac compares Public Schools to Nazi regime

  5. 5

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    FBI Working New Lead In D.B. Cooper Hijacking

    The FBI doesn’t claim it’s close to solving the case, but here’s what we know about the new lead:

    1. It involves a new suspect who hasn’t previously been investigated; and

    2. It consists of complete fingerprints on one or more articles supplied to the FBI by a person close to the new suspect. The FBI crime lab is determining whether these fingerprints match partial fingerprints recovered from personal articles D.B. Cooper left on the plane.

  6. 6

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @4 “In the meantime, Ken Simac, the Republican Tea Party guy who’s challenging Jim Holperin (D-Wis) in one of the Wisconsin recall elections”

    This should read: ” … Kim Simac, the Republcian Tea Party woman who’s challenging … “

  7. 7

    Steve spews:

    Rachel’s donations are getting a small bump today. One of the donation page comments mentioned an appearance by her Mom on CBS this morning. A media bump. It happened with NBC a few days ago. I was hoping for an HA bump, as modest, even as tiny as it might be, by HA doing something a wee bit more than just mentioning her almost in passing in an open thread post. I’ll say that I do give Carl kudos for at least doing that. As for Goldy, he says that the Bible Study thread has a “spirit” that, along with his atheism, would make it inappropriate and somehow insincere. I disagree. No fallen Angels are HA’s posters, obviously, but I believe that even you risen apes can and should raise your spirit and take a pause for the cause. We have 20 days to go and counting.

  8. 9

    spews:

    This is to inform you that the Secretary of Defense for the State of Washington is back at work.

    Huh? Who dat?

    Marummy.

    Marummy who?

    Mary Lane Strow, the fearless hero who oh, BTW, turned Dean Logan to spare parts and California sunworshipper.

    I just thought I should tell you. Make sure to check out http://seattlerepublicans.org/index.html as able.

    In advance: Sorry if I’m spammy, but this is news. I know many of us here would like to hang Marummy and me from hanging chads, but I figured you lefties need to know the spendocracy’s over.

    Have fun!

  9. 10

    Bob spews:

    Awfully quiet in here today. I expected a lot more hand-wringing.

    It’s awful, apparently, that a guy running for election in another state reaffirms Godwin’s Law over schools. Although you guys seem pretty silent about all of the insinuations by the left over the past week that those on the right, who happen to be merely opposed to spending, are the equivalent of terrorists.

    I suppose that talking tough that way is better than having to defend the feckless incompetence your leadership displayed over the past week. Just remember, that Satan Sandwich isn’t intended to be a suppository.

  10. 11

    Ekim pointing out that ButtPutty just smells bad spews:

    Steve @7,

    I know you have gotten behind Rachel’s cause and are pushing hard for HA to be more involved. But is HA really an appropriate venue for this? If so, should HA only focus on Rachel or should it also focus on other deserving personal causes as well?

  11. 13

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @7 It would help if, when chewing out Goldy for not posting the link, you post the link:

    http://www.mycharitywater.org/.....n_id=16396

    Donations, which have been running about $100K a day, appear to be slowing down somewhat. Still, with 20 days to go, I think the chances are good that the final total will top $1 million. I gave 20 bucks.

  12. 14

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @10 “a guy running for election in another state reaffirms Godwin’s Law over schools”

    That guy is a gal — a Tea Partier running on “family values” who walked into a courthouse hand-in-hand with her boyfriend to file two divorce actions … once against her husband, and one against his wife. Oh, and she doesn’t pay her property taxes on time, either. And she loves to complain about Wisconsin’s business taxes being too high, even though her own business has paid a grand total of $1,800 of state business taxes over the last 10 years … an average of $180 a year. That wouldn’t even buy a nonresident hunting license in most states.

  13. 15

    Ekim pointing out that ButtPutty just smells bad spews:

    @9

    I figured you lefties need to know the spendocracy’s over.

    Are you referring to the Rethug Welfare Counties? Why that is good news. If they do stop sucking that $2,000,000,000 a year out of the Seattle/King County tax revenue stream, that will mean we can both reduce our taxes and pay for much needed and long deferred capital improvements around here.

    Thanks for the heads-up…

  14. 16

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Jilted loverboy @9: Why don’t you guys run Zits against Maria and see what happens?

  15. 18

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @9 (continued) Dean Logan left Seattle to take a better paying job in L.A., which has more voters than any other U.S. county. That looks like a promotion to me. And Gregoire is still in the governor’s mansion. But go ahead, keep deluding yourself that you guys turned Logan “into spare parts.”

    Let me tell you something, blockhead. I was on the Democratic observer team and personally witnessed both recounts in entirety. I spoke with Logan hourly, not daily, and all I saw was an honest man doing his job honestly.

    Now here’s something else. I attended GOP chair Chris Vance’s daily press conferences out in the parking lot. I read every name in the daily sign-in books. Not once did Vance every set foot inside the building where the ballots were actually being counted. Everything he said to the media out in the parking lot was scripted in advance. Want to know what the GOP’s “observers” where doing inside? They were knitting, reading, and gossiping with each other. They were doing everything except watching ballots being counted. Why? Because there was nothing to see. As a Democratic observer, I spent my time keeping an eye on the Republican observers who weren’t observing anything, and documenting the fact they weren’t observing anything, so the Democratic Party had the evidence it needed to rebut the GOP’s lies.

    I was there, you weren’t; I know what happened, you’re regurgitating hearsay party propaganda. Fuck you, Josef. Your boy Rossi lost that election because our candidate had more votes, not because of any ball0t-counting shenanigans. Every single ballot was counted at least seven times, and GOP observers were present every time any ballot was counted. And let me add that Loserboy Rossi diminished himself and his party by being one of the most graceless and whiny losers in our state’s history. And the whole whining WSRP wasn’t any better.

  16. 20

    Bob spews:

    @ 14:

    Is that more relevant than:

    Weiner?

    Wu?

    Edwards?

    Baucus?

    Or after a several month stretch of bad news for the Left are you scraping the bottom of the barrel for material, no matter how far-flung?

  17. 21

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @17 re 15: If government spending were reduced to zero you wingnut asswipes would still whine about “wasteful government spending.”

  18. 22

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @20 If you can’t even get your own party candidate’s gender straight, why should anyone listen to anything else you say?

  19. 23

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @20 (continued) You must not have been reading this blog for very long. Us lefties have dissed on those guys plenty.

    You see, Bob, the difference between us and you guys is that when Democrats misbehave we throw them under the bus, but when Republicans misbehave your guys protect them and throw their victims under the bus.

    So, go take your sanctimonious horseshit and fuck yourself with it.

  20. 24

    Bob spews:

    @23

    I would wager that, in the likely thousands upon thousands of HA posts you have made, there are occasions in which you have been erroneous in items of virtually zero consequence, while making a larger, factually correct argument. Pity you make no similar allowance for the possibility that the same thing might happen to someone else.

    I will grant you that I erred in my description of an individual’s gender. I’ll go straight to hell for it, I know.

    I suppose that grasping that fact with both digital hands might keep you from making an argument on its merits. Hold on tightly. I hope you feel better soon.

  21. 25

    Bob spews:

    @23:

    Tell me about all those sanctions your ilk levied against Dollar Bill Jefferson? Maxine Waters?

    You must be having a vewy, vewy bad day, Rabbit.

    Total loss of innocence. Dems were aftraid that Obama would do an end-around and toss them to the dogs by negotiating directly with the GOP. Sure enough, they were absolutely correct. It must be very painful, watching that behavior by the guy for whom you have worn knee pads lo these past four years.

  22. 26

    spews:

    that those on the right, who happen to be merely opposed to spending,

    For anything that doesn’t benefit them. Lot of spending went on during the reign of Dumbya and his lockstep Congresses.

    You voted for it twice and maybe even sent some coin..

    that Satan Sandwich isn’t intended to be a suppository.

    Sighhh… More “ass pounding” metaphors from the execrable “Bob”..

  23. 27

    spews:

    25 – !!!!! What a lying bastard you are!

    Obama is a log splitter you dumbass.

    Handed nothing but hateful crap from the GOP and committed to doing business with them, he’s done pretty much the best he can.

    How about this record:

    http://www.politifact.com/trut...../obameter/

    He has still done a lot of what he said he’d do.

    He takes the long view much better than many give him credit for.

    The left will support him ANY DAY over any degenerate from your silly bench. Use car salesman Romney by any chance?

  24. 28

    Bob spews:

    @26

    Hiya YLB:

    For anything that doesn’t benefit them. Lot of spending went on during the reign of Dumbya and his lockstep Congresses.

    And your side didn’t like what it was spent on. And your side flipped Congress because of it. Fair enough. “It was a thumpin’.”

    Now my side, objecting to the misuse of $800B by the “We won the election. We wrote the bill.” crowd, are putting a stop to it via the democratic process.

    Deal with it. You want Krugman’s dream of more spending to come true? If only the ARRA money hadn’t been used to paper over states’ problems and to reward Dem cronies. You might have a moral basis to ask for a stimulus again. Pity that you do not.

  25. 29

    spews:

    @18 Fuck you back. I know the whole story. The several hundred provisional ballots that went unverified before counting… the thousands of felons who weren’t supposed to vote… the thousands more votes than voters…

    Dean Logan quit because of the superior airpower brought by SecDefWA Marummy. Here’s what he said…

    “County employees are not treated with respect. There’s a lack of civility in the discussion,” Logan said Tuesday. “I did reach a point when I no longer wanted to subject myself to appearing before the council and giving them the forum for them to be uncivil.”

    Sims also said Logan’s resignation — which he blamed on partisan politics — will create a recruiting challenge.

    “We could change more of the political environment here so it would be more attractive to people,” Sims said. “As we move away from the 2004 election, I think the rhetoric will die down, but it’s been pretty toxic regarding Dean.”

    King County’s vote counting in 2004 was marred by problems that included poor accounting.

    Chelan County Superior Court Judge John Bridges blasted King County’s election administration but rejected the state Republican Party’s claim that those problems justified a revote.

    SOURCE

    Also, Ron Sims admitted: “Dean has been personally hurt by the constant barrage of harsh personal attacks on his character and professionalism leveled by some partisan extremists and elected officials.”

    Oh and Dean Logan was ocnviently absent when it came time to be accountable. Like this time.

    Now who did that, who chased Dean Logan out? Marummy did it. She led the way. The observing that mattered was the voter rolls.

    Once Dean was gone, we fixed the elections systems. Marummy Did It. Period.

  26. 30

    spews:

    28 – Over 30 percent of which was TAX CUTS which are supposed to cure ANYTHING even the common cold didn’t you know??

    Like all of Dumbya’s tax cuts did for the current situation.

    Yes it was a crappy stimulus bill. More stimulus, less pandering to failed right wing dogma.

  27. 31

    spews:

    29 – Your candidate lost Josef and went on to lose 2 more times.

    He’s a sleazy operator, unfit for office – get over it.

  28. 32

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @24 You expect mercy on this blog? You come here as a troll and expect us to cut you some slack? I’m not a Democratic congressman, pal. I don’t do mercy.

    In case you’re totally new here, as the ad hoc HA greeter, it’s my duty to acquaint you with the unofficial HA posting rules:

    1. This is a liberal blog.
    2. Anyone can post here, except JCH.
    3. There is no censorship.
    4. As liberals, it’s our patriotic duty to verbally kick the living shit out of you wingnut sewer rats.
    5. No mercy for wingnuts!
    6. Our terms are unconditional surrender, and there will be trials.
    7. klake is a nazi.

    Pay special attention to #5. Got any questions?

  29. 33

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @25 When former Rep. Jefferson was caught with $90,000 of cash in his freezer, his Democratic colleagues stripped him of all his committee assignments, which was the most they could do to him. Because Republicans controlled the House at the time, they didn’t have the power to eject him from Congress.

  30. 34

    YellowPup spews:

    Obama always talks like compromise is about realism and mature post-partisan statesmanship.

    Someone needs to show Obama what compromise really means. Play him Jefferson Airplane’s Surrealistic Pillow and follow it with Starship’s Knee Deep in the Hoopla. This is compromise. It’s just bloody ugly and sad.

  31. 35

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @25 (continued) As for “sanctions against Maxine Waters,” this is an open investigation, idiot! The standard procedure is to investigation the allegations before imposing sanctions, numbskull.

    Allegations against Waters are currently being investigated by the House Ethics Committee. It is noteworthy that the conduct of Republicans on the H.E.C. in relation to the Waters investigation is also being investigated. The latest development is that H.E.C. has appointed outside counsel to investigate Waters’ conduct and H.E.C. Republicans’ conduct.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....05025.html

  32. 37

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @34 President Cave-In’s idea of “compromise” is selling out his supporters by giving the Republicans what they want in return for no little or nothing.

  33. 38

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Well, at least if you get taken hostage, you can count on Obama to pay the ransom to get you back alive.

  34. 39

    Bob spews:

    @ 27 YLB:

    The concern that this is the best Obama can do was registered by those of us on the right in no uncertain terms, back in 2008.

    This is an excellent example of the performance of an individual holding no qualifications for the office to which he was elected.

    You might be disappointed. You cannot say you were not warned.

  35. 40

    spews:

    Republicans objected to the investigation of Jefferson:

    The search arose from an investigation of charges that Representative Jefferson helped a private company and thereby enriched himself. The agents had a valid warrant, and used procedures that minimized the chance of taking unrelated legislative materials. Mr. Jefferson objected and demanded that the seized material be returned. House Speaker Dennis Hastert and Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi issued a rare joint statement supporting him.

    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/f.....A9609C8B63

    He was convicted in a court of law and all but.. Just sayin’.

  36. 41

    spews:

    @31 Yes, Dino Rossi lost. He was robbed in 2004, Mary Lane (Strow) avenged the loss, we got Dean Logan outta here and better elections.

    As you Spendocrats in your Spendocratic Party are learning, it’s about advancing policy. Policy. Policy, ICYMI.

  37. 42

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @27 Used car salesman Romney just came out against the debt deal, which puts him in the same camp as looneytunes Bachmann.

    “‘As president, my plan would have produced a budget that was cut, capped and balanced – not one that opens the door to higher taxes and puts defense cuts on the table,’ he said in a statement.”
    http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com.....-debt-deal

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: That’s pure Wingnuttia: Make senior citizens, students, and poor people pay for debts run up by spendthrift Republicans who squandered trillions on military spending, an unnecessary war, and tax breaks for billionaires.

    This is going to cost Romney — he can no longer pretend to be a moderate to get independent votes.

  38. 43

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Why not cut defense? U.S. military spending is more than the rest of the world combined. U.S. military has grown from $400 billion in 2001 to nearly $1 trillion today. U.S. taxpayers pay a quarter of a billion dollars for one warplane. Do we really need more aircraft carrier fleets? Why do we need 3,400 F-35 stealth fighters? I repeat … WHY NOT CUT DEFENSE?

  39. 44

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    What kind of national security do these Republicans think we’ll have if only 5% of America’s kids can afford college?

  40. 45

    spews:

    an individual holding no qualifications for the office to which he was elected.

    Activist, President of the Harvard Law Review (elected in great part by the support of conservatives by the way), Attorney, Constitutional Law instructor, 8 year State Senator, brief tenure in the U.S. Senate with some notable accomplishments..

    Did you see his record on Politifact???

    Yeah Michelle Bachmanm has so much on him.

  41. 46

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @28 “objecting to the misuse of $800B”

    Are you referring to the bank bailouts (started by Bush and finished by Obama) that prevented another Great Depression (and ended up costing taxpayers nothing), or to the stimulus that most economists criticized as “too small” but nevertheless saved 2 million jobs?

  42. 47

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @28 (continued) Some of us are getting really tired of the utter, total, and complete economic ignorance of people like you.

  43. 48

    Bob spews:

    @33:

    Suppose I accept your argument regarding the Dem limitations in 2005. Who took control of the House in 2007? Thereafter, Dollar Bill remained in office until his defeat in 2008.

    In June, 2007, he was indicted by a federal grand jury for corruption – sixteen different charges.

    So, there was a period of two years in which the Democrats COULD have done something, and did not. In 17 of those 24 months, he was under federal indictment.

    I eagerly await your explanation.

  44. 49

    spews:

    I heard some glibertarians the other day (Welch and Gillespie from Reason Mag) touting their recent book..

    When it came around to what they would do Welch said cut defense spending IN HALF AS A START.

    David Stockman just said more or less the same thing recently.

    Ok I can find “common ground” with guys like that.

  45. 50

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @29 “@18 Fuck you back.”

    Why, thank you! We rabbits are always happy to get laid. You can never have too many rabbits.

  46. 51

    rhp6033 spews:

    # 29 said…”I know the whole story. The several hundred provisional ballots that went unverified before counting… the thousands of felons who weren’t supposed to vote… the thousands more votes than voters…”

    Funny, Republicans threw every allegation they could find into the suit to overthrow Gregoire’s 2004 election. They even picked a solidly Republican county, with Republican judges, to make sure they got the best judgement money could buy.

    Problem was, they couldn’t prove their case. After all the press releases about thousands of felons voting, they were able to turn up only a handful, and at the end of the day one vote was taken away from the Rossi column. Overall, Gregoire’s lead actually INCREASED at the end of the election challenge.

    So they got a fair hearing in front of a Republican judge, in a Republican county, and they still lost. The facts simply didn’t support their claims.

    But they raised a lot of money, nationally, by complaining about how the election was “stolen” from them. Personally, I think it was just a scheme by the Repubilcan Party to seperate more money from the pockets of middle-class Republicans.

  47. 52

    YellowPup spews:

    @38:

    Well, at least if you get taken hostage, you can count on Obama to pay the ransom to get you back alive.

    LOL. He would call it a great victory for the American people, since he managed to get your dead body back with only a few limbs missing.

  48. 53

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @29 “I know the whole story.”

    You do, huh? If hundreds of unverified ballots were counted how did WSRP manage to lose its $2 million lawsuit before a handpicked Republican judge in a handpicked Repoublican County? Incompetent lawyers?

    Trust me on this pal, the GOPers fought hard over every disputed ballot, and every single ballot they disputed went to the county canvassing board, on which sat your Republican county prosecutor.

    How many criminal charges did your Republican prosecutor file against Dean Logan or anyone else? None. How many criminal charges did your Bush-appointed Republican U.S. Attorney file against Dean Logan or anyone else? None.

    The only airpower I saw was a stream of corporate jets flying in RNC lawyers and propagandists. The ballot-counting facility was directly under the Boeing Field landing approach, so I could count ‘em as they flew in from D.C. There were about two dozen. But the GOP’s air force wasn’t big enough, because you guys lost anyway. See “Battle of Britain” for historical parallel (Nazi pun intentional).

  49. 54

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @39 “This is an excellent example of the performance of an individual holding no qualifications for the office to which he was elected.”

    So is it your position that Bachmann, whose own chief of staff has publicly stated isn’t ready to be president, shouldn’t be nominated by your party?

    Actually, Obama hasn’t done all that badly. Yeah, he lets himself get pushed around by Republicans too much, but he saved us from another Great Depression. He also passed health care reform, which both GOP and Democratic presidents before him had tried — and failed — to pass for 40 years. He saved the U.S. auto industry, and he killed Osama bin Laden — something your monkeyboy couldn’t do for eight long years.

  50. 56

    spews:

    @51 Obviously, you forget that Judge Bridges said:

    I have been asked in closing argument to send a message. I’m going to decline that invitation. This Court is not in a position to fix the deficiencies in the election process that we heard about in this courtroom over the past nine days. However, the voters of this state are in a position to demand of their executive and legislative bodies that remedial measures be instituted immediately. And clearly, the evidence here suggests that the problems require more than just constructing new buildings and hiring more staff.

    Mr. Logan in his testimony in court and, more particularly, in his deposition testimony
    referred to the culture he found when he assumed the responsibilities of the Director of
    Elections in King County.
    Almost anyone who works in state or local government knows exactly what this culture is. It’s inertia. It’s selfishness. It’s taking our paycheck but not
    doing the work. It’s not caring about either our fellow workers or the public we are supposed to serve. It’s not taking responsibility. It’s refusing to be held accountable. And so it is the voters who should send the message.

    The petition did not assert fraud by any election official. The petition alleged that it was impossible to determine which gubernatorial candidate received the greatest number of
    legitimate votes.
    Petitioners sought an order declaring the election null and void, setting the election aside, declaring that the certification of the results of the election and any election — I’m sorry, any certificate of election issued as a result of the election be void and directing that a new election be conducted.

    This Court concludes that the statutes and Supreme Court case law of this state require
    that petitioner establish not only that illegal, invalid or improper votes were cast and/or
    that there has been misconduct on the part of any member of any precinct election board
    but also, that the petitioners must establish the element of causation, that is, in the
    language of RCW 29A.68.070, that such irregularity or improper conduct was such as to
    procure Ms. Gregoire’s certification.
    While there is evidence of irregularity, as there
    appears to be in every election, based on the testimony of various county election
    officials, there is no substantial evidence by clear and convincing evidence that improper
    conduct or irregularity procured Ms. Gregoire’s election to the Office of Governor.

    Massively abridged, but the point is state law doesn’t say if Y votes is the spread and X>Y where X = illegal votes, you can’t throw out the election. Judge Bridges wanted We The People to act, and we did.

  51. 57

    rhp6033 spews:

    44. Roger Rabbit spews:

    What kind of national security do these Republicans think we’ll have if only 5% of America’s kids can afford college?

    They don’t care. They just want to make sure their little Brent III or Brittany can still get into an Ivy League school, and not have to compete with the riff-raff on the basis of, you know, grades and merit and such. It suits them just fine if the class sizes shrink by several factors, they figure it just increases the value of their investment.

  52. 59

    spews:

    @53 Why, thank you. Asshole. The Republican US Attorney was FIRED shortly after 2006 for chickening out re: elections law enforcement. It was Mary Lane Strow who did what a bunch of Spendocrat/Democrat & Republican pansy asses should have done and either a) fired or b) indicted over half of the King County REALS department.

    See @56 for the rest of my reply. Bad state law meant it was up to a brave few to finish what Reagan Dunn & Stefan Sharkansky started… and those two stayed in the fight as well.

    Oh and where was the RNC when it was time to drive Dean Logan out? Good question. Off partying and hiding and I have not much time or patience for them, in fact one should shut up, celebrate his busting of a unconstitutional income tax initiative and let Marummy run for US Senate instead so we go down fighting. It was Mary Lane (Strow) who worked very long, very hard to stop this bunch of thugs from screwing all 39 counties out of fair statewide elections.

  53. 61

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @48 “Suppose I accept your argument regarding the Dem limitations in 2005.”

    I don’t care whether you do or don’t.

    “Who took control of the House in 2007? Thereafter, Dollar Bill remained in office until his defeat in 2008.”

    Jefferson was indicted in June 2007, and at that point, Congress decided to let the court jury determine his guilt or innocence.

  54. 63

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @60 Josef, doesn’t it just eat your guts out that you waited too long to ask Zits for a date, and before you knew it, she married someone else?

  55. 64

    rhp6033 spews:

    Dicta aside, Judge Bridge’s ruling can be condensed to the following points:

    1. The Republicans failed to prove that more valid votes were cast for the Republican candidate;

    2. The Republicans failed to prove that thousands of felons voted illegally for Greguire (only one felon was identified as having voted illegally, and he voted for Rossi);

    3. The judge refused to assume, in the absence of evidence, that any discrepencies adhered to Gregoire’s benefit;

    4. The judge refused to throw out the election and call for a “do-over”, pointing out that he had no authority to do that under the State Constitution and statutes. (Funny, Republicans LIKE activists judges, and hate strict construction, when they think it would work for their benefit!)

    I would note that the 2004 election was peculiar in that it was the one state-wide election where the largest counties were conducting both mail-in and precinct voting on a wide scale, which multiplied the problems encountered by Mr. Logan and his department. Despite this, the “discrepency” rate was very small, well under a fraction of 1%.

    The remedial action taken was to go to an all-mail system (which will be fully in effect this year).

  56. 65

    spews:

    60 – Seattle Republicans??? Another lost cause..

    Every whack job they put up versus Jim McDermott never gets more than around 19 percent of the vote..

    Josef, you are sick. You are FIXATED.

    Mary LANE IS MARRIED! Dean Logan has moved on.

    Sherril Huff is doing a fine job running KCREALS and elections here are more smoothly run and transparent than ever. No right wing whackjob is EVER going to replace her as long as voters here know what is good for them.

    Stefan Sharkansky found a way to shake down King County and even HE has moved on.

    YOU HAVE NOT! SEEK HELP!

  57. 67

    Bob spews:

    @ 54.

    Yes. It is.

    1. She’s not ready.
    2. She’s not electable – her nomination in ’12 would guarantee an Obama win, in my opinion.
    3. The GOP has better.

  58. 68

    spews:

    @64 “Screwing up in the past is no excuse for screwing up in the present”, Mary Lane Strow.

    Oh and BTW, more votes than voters is unacceptable. Every vote should have a voter, much preferably legal and every voter should vote.

  59. 69

    spews:

    @65 Oh and BTW, the 2009 special election for the Elections Director was a grand royale embarassment for the WSRP & the King County Republicans. Neither candidate was really good enough to run & win. Marummy didn’t run, she could have. So could have Stefan or Steve Beren.

    David “Heavy Irons” was just not catching fire and has a personal life with sadly problems.

    Pam Roach is part of the problem w/ the WSRP – not just the State Senate Republicans.

    I could continue…

  60. 70

    nolaguy spews:

    @20

    You see, Bob, the difference between us and you guys is that when Democrats misbehave we throw them under the bus,

    @61

    Jefferson was indicted in June 2007, and at that point, Congress decided to let the court jury determine his guilt or innocence.

    OK

  61. 71

    spews:

    No you are a person who BADLY needs counseling.

    This politics thing has not worked for you.

    This Mary Lane infatuation has not worked for you.

    Life is about growing! Not clinging to old fantasies.

    You can’t live life from one google alert about Mary Lane Strow to the next.

    get help..

  62. 72

    Bob spews:

    @61

    So, how does doing nothing, as Dems did regarding Jefferson, who had 16 federal indictments against him and had been caught with $90,000 in his home freezer, equate to “throwing him under the bus”, as you said Dems do to those among their party who misbehave?

    Did Jefferson’s claim of innocence sway Dems? After all, they had control of the House as of 2007 and if they were so willing to clean House, forcing Dollar Bill out would have been an obvious place to start, would it not?

    Dollar Bill is entitled to a presumption of innocence while standing trial. He is not, while serving in Congress. Not with that type of accusation(s) against him.

    Drain the Swamp does not mean protect your own. But nice try. You sounded very moral before the flaw in your argument was made clear to you.

  63. 73

    spews:

    @71 Considering how few Google Alerts I get, I have moved on. I just wanted to tease you guys and get some jollies watching you Spendocrats scream and holler realizing that we’re coming, you’re going, don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

    Considering I have a record that includes but is not limited to:

    *Getting four community college trustees fired for overspending & opaque governance
    *Stopping a dump next to S-W High
    *Stopping the far right from suing Skagit County after yours truly exposed a ballot title error

    I really don’t care for your fantasy Josef = idiot. Gee, thanks love. I guess now Josef = terrorist or teaorist in your spendocrat brain.

  64. 74

    spews:

    @71 Considering how few Google Alerts I get, I have moved on. I just wanted to tease you guys and get some jollies watching you Spendocrats scream and holler realizing that we’re coming, you’re going, don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

    Considering I have a record that includes but is not limited to:

    *Getting four community college trustees fired for overspending & opaque governance
    *Stopping a dump next to S-W High
    *Stopping the far right from suing Skagit County after yours truly exposed a ballot title error

    I really don’t care for your fantasy Josef = idiot. Gee, thanks love. I guess now Josef = terrorist or teaorist in your spendocrat brain.

  65. 75

    Steve spews:

    @11 Oh, I hear you. Of course, there are a thousand good causes and even many internet sensations not involving jackasses become news. I feel that this one is different for a number of reasons, including me being a homie and this being a local girl. Really, if I had seen simple updates on the fund progress on these open thread posts along with a link I would have been happy. After all, not everybody who visits this blog comes to the cesspool where the links still appear. I do not condemn Goldy. He thought it not quite right and he has his reasons for reaching that conclusion. I try to respect that.

    I do try. But, you know, sometimes respect around here is a one-way street, and once a week this lack of respect has absolutely nothing to do with politics. As a progressive Christian who reads the weekly bashing of my Stupid-Sky-God and his field representative, I thought my request that the head HA risen ape pause the bashing for a week, recognize an Angel when he sees one, lock the comment thread, and instead fully recognize this girl and the Christian faith that help shape and guide her (and throw in a link) wasn’t too terribly unreasonable. Eh, Goldy instead chose to make Jesus look like an ass again.

    I did what I did. Goldy did what he did. HA will do what it does.

    http://www.mycharitywater.org/.....n_id=16396

  66. 76

    Ekim pointing out that ButtPutty just smells bad spews:

    Has any Washington state Republican county had its voting procedures audited?

    Would any of the Republican counties prove to be anywhere near as clean as KC?

  67. 77

    rhp6033 spews:

    Regarding Sarah Palin’s “Undefeated”:

    I think she’s got more support than the movie ticket sales indicate. It’s just that her support basis (unlike the financial interests which control mainstream republican politics) has very limited means. They may only go to the movie theatres once or twice a summer.

    Sure, they’l buy her book, but paying $10 more per ticket when they can rent it on DVD for $1 at Redbox in a few weeks? Besides, who wants to go to the theatres to watch what, at best, would be described as a documentary? Isn’t that something you watch for free on TV when there’s nothing else on?

    The President has a lot more supporters than Pailin ever did, but I doubt a documentary about him would do very well – especially in the highly competative summer season.

    Which just goes to show the comparison between the President and Sarah Palin. The President knows better than to try to make a doumentary about him to be shown in movie theatres, especially on which will compete during the busy summer months. He would dismiss such an idea out of hand. Sarah Palin, however, doesn’t have the judgement to even question why it wouldn’t work, and she surrounds herself with sycophants who are more likely than not to encourage her with her self-delusions.

  68. 79

    Bob spews:

    @ 77:

    You would think such a sage president would know enough not to tell Cantor not to call his bluff.

    ’cause in doing so, that president would be dumbfuck enough to state, in so many words, that his posturing is nothing more than said bluff.

    I’d say the president has plenty of sycophants right here on HA. He doesn’t need to go around looking for more.

  69. 80

    rhp6033 spews:

    I heard reports that the Republicans tried to arrange a Tea Party rally in Washington D.C. to be held last Saturday to support their budget positions. The number of news media outnumbered the protestors.

    Last summer, a Tea Party convention in Las Vegas had to be canceled for, well, lack of interest – just a couple of weeks before the event, if I remember correctly.

    What’s hilarious about this is that the Republicans who are trying to use the Tea Party faithful as their “base” don’t understand the first thing about them. They aren’t well-off like the GOP financial elites who control the party. Most of them are either retired or work for a living, and a large number live in rural settins and presumably work on farms or make a living off supplying farmers.

    Quite simply, most of them can’t take off at the drop of a hat during the summer months at the party’s bidding. Workers have to plan vacations months in advance, and they may only have a week available which they devote to family trips. Others can’t afford to travel to expensive cities.

    The Las Vegas disaster a year ago was entirely predicatable, but they failed to see it. Many of the “Tea Party” base are Evangelicals, and the idea of going to “Sin City” didn’t appeal to them. Other than touring Hoover Dam, what other “family entertainment” could they do? Most of them would forego the expensive room rentals in favor of a spot at an RV park, which isn’t very comfortable in a hot Nevada summer.

  70. 81

    spews:

    the president has plenty of sycophants right here

    Nope. No sycophants here.. I don’t plan to vote for Obama myself if the Republicans manage by some miracle to put up a reasonable guy against him.

    Jon Huntsman MIGHT be that kind of guy.

    Plenty of Psycho-Phants on the right to be sure. And they sure put up some doozies.

  71. 82

    Bob spews:

    @ 81:

    What’s hilarious about a group of middle Americans, not elites but men and women who work for a living and probably don’t enjoy the handouts given to union members, who band loosely together and are successful in rallying a nation’s voters to the extent that a huge flip in the House of Representatives occurs, largely through their true grassroots efforts?

    What you think is hilarious, I think is fucking admirable. It’s how the democratic system is supposed to work.

    What I would call hilarious is your Coffee Party, which tried to mimic the Tea Party but destroyed itself by infighting and a vicious hatred of the other side. Hilarious is your ‘No Labels’ guys who were anything but generic in their left-leaning approach. Hilarious is your Van Jones, who is on his, what, third different newly created organization, now?

    So a turnout is small. Your point? They still were David to your Goliath. They created the first push of this nation to a more austere method of doing things.

    I’m not a Tea Partier. But I can’t begrudge them their success. They took shit from you and your ilk, and still do, for two-plus years, and they’re still standing. Oh, and their elected representatives? Totally outplayed your sage president. That’s not hilarious. But to me, it’s worth a wry smile.

  72. 84

    Bob spews:

    @ 81:

    That rujax guy? He’s a sycophant. C’mon, now.

    Huntsman? Hmmmmmmmmmm. Dude does ride a motorcycle.

  73. 85

    W. Klingon Skousen's log removal service spews:

    The picture of DB Cooper looks suspiciously like Dino Rossi.

  74. 86

    Blue John spews:

    I am getting so sick and tired of my president. He gets the small things right and then fails to visibly try on the huge important issues.
    No, I don’t have buyer’s remorse. There was NO viable candidate that was better. There is no way in HELL I could have voted for palin/mccain. Hillary was already a republican lite. I knew she wouldn’t deliver. I just thought that Obama was going to be better, stronger, more of a fighter.

    Here’s my car analogy. At the car lot, it was mostly republican Yugos and Gremlins, and the best option was a democratic mid range family car. Under normal circumstances, the mid range would have worked fine, but right now, what we need was a tough muscle car, and the Obama just isn’t up to the task.

  75. 87

    Bob spews:

    @ 86

    I just thought that Obama was going to be better, stronger, more of a fighter.

    Better, stronger, more of a fighter. Retrospectively, wouldn’t you apply those terms more to HRC than Obama? I hated HRC for 15 years and over the last two have begun to admire her at least for everything she has put up with for 17+ years. Woman is still standing. No question in my mind that she would not hesitate before making any tough decision.

  76. 89

    rhp6033 spews:

    Bob @ 82: I think the Tea Party base consists of those who SHOULD be Democrats, if they weren’t decieved by the Republican spin machine and voted their interests, instead of those who consistently act against their interests. (I make an exception for the racist componants, which I hope are a minority). Quite frankly, these folks are a lot like my family back in the Southeast, where I came from.

    Of course, there IS the possibility that they more closely resemble the following quite, of which I was reminded watching TV over the past week:

    “You’ve got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know… morons.”

    From Blazing Saddles.

  77. 90

    rhp6033 spews:

    Another quote from Blazing Saddles:

    Reporter: :Sir, those are dummies.”

    Governor William J. Le Petomane: “How do you think I got elected?”

  78. 91

    W. Klingon Skousen's log removal service spews:

    re 82: I was discussing with a Teabagger why they should be called Teabaggers and not ‘Tea Partiers’. He said: “We called ourselves Teabaggers before we knew what we were talking about.”

    Nothing’s changed. Teabaggers are an astroturf organization started and funded by the Koch Brothers. Any political event that I’ve been to in this state where the Teabaggers have been bussed in (BUSSED IN???!!!!!), it has been a pathetically small group that skullked away upon being booed by the numerous and vigorous progressive gathering.

    Who pays for those busses? Surely not the nasty bunch of hypocritical halfwits who ride them.

    To borrow a phrase from the ‘we shall overcome’ phase of Southern history: They are just a bunch of outside agitators.

  79. 92

    spews:

    60. Josef, obviously spews:

    @58 Thanks for flattering me. I’m sure the Seattle Republicans appreciate me making you waste time on me.

    08/01/2011 at 1:08 pm

    I wondered where that crazy loser went to…maybe he’ll go back. Soon.

  80. 93

    spews:

    84 – Didn’t say I’d vote for him. Just wouldn’t oppose him by voting for Obama.

    If you guys put up a psychotic like Bachmann or an embarrassment like Romney or Pawlenty – you bet I’m voting for Obama.

    Totally outplayed

    A bulwark of “no” in the House. Wow that was hard.

  81. 94

    Bob spews:

    @ 90:

    As long as you’re going to make unsubstantiated allegations of racism, best not mention in the same paragraph that your family hails from the SE US. The opportunity to discuss roots of racism in southern Democrats is too tempting. Don’t forget that according to the flexible definition of racism, anyone who supported HRC in ’08 is racist. Even our First Black President is racist, according to the flowing CW of that primary election campaign.

    The Tea Party objects to uncontrolled, baseless spending. Money thrown at unions, to save Chrysler, to patch over state deficits so the states can throw money at unions, and for health care everyone knows will cost more and provide less is objectionable. They’ll never be Democrats. Your basic premise is incorrect.

    Glad you see hilarity in what you believe their intelligence level to be. Those redneck morons just got done cleaning your clock.

  82. 95

    spews:

    to the extent that a huge flip in the House of Representatives occurs,

    Like that was so hard after a punishing recession due to the reign of the Abramoff Republicans.

  83. 96

    Blue John spews:

    “Hillary was already a republican lite.”
    “No question in my mind that she would not hesitate before making any tough decision.”
    I didn’t trust her to have done the right thing. I knew Hillary would have voted the way Obama did. I just didn’t know Obama would.

  84. 97

    Bob spews:

    @96:

    Hey BJ:

    Seven years of voting ‘present’ in IL, tilting at windmills like voting against the debt ceiling increase and trying to filibuster Alito’s nomination during his short stint in the Senate, and you couldn’t figure out that he would be unserious when push came to shove if he were elected?

    That’s some serious Jonestown punch you imbibed.

  85. 98

    Bob spews:

    @88:

    Funny thing about acting like a cheerleader for years, Rujax. People around you think you’re……..

    ……..a cheerleader.

    YLB didn’t see the value in arguing my point.

    Grow a pair someday, dude. You might like it.

  86. 99

    spews:

    The Tea Party objects to uncontrolled, baseless spending.

    Where’s the proposals for cutting bloated defense spending? Do we really need what? 18 carrier battle groups? 3 dozen new submarines?

    Money thrown at unions, to save Chrysler,

    To save jobs and an industry in this country. It worked. The money is mostly paid back now.

    to patch over state deficits so the states can

    Save teacher and public safety worker jobs? It was hilarious to see right wing governors talk the talk and take the money:

    http://www.salon.com/news/feat....._governors

    and for health care

    For more people who don’t have access to it. Like these people:

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.co.....forum.html

    Only in America?

  87. 100

    Bob spews:

    @99:

    To save jobs and an industry in this country. It worked. The money is mostly paid back now.

    No, the loaned money was replaced by new loans. The press releases say it was paid back.

    I mentioned Chrysler, to differentiate from GM. I would have killed Chrysler. On Obama’s team, 3 of seven would have, too. The split decision, according to Rattner, was 3 to 3. Obama made the call to save Chrysler.

    I’m reading Rattner’s book now. He writes well.

  88. 101

    rhp6033 spews:

    # 94: Still slinging that “racist” B.S. at the Democrats? We made it simple for them: convert or get out. The Republicans, on the other hand, made a conscious decision to appeal to racisim starting with Nixon’s “Southern Strategy” in 1968 and 1972.

    Since then, they’ve been a bit more nuanced, but just barely. From Willie Horton to false allegations of Obama as the “Kenyan candidate” and beneficiary of special advantages due to his race, the Republicans have continued to cash in on the race card.

    I know from experience that not all southerners are racists, and there are plenty of racists even here in the Pacific Northwest. But only the Republicans have made it a consistent part of their political strategy.

  89. 103

    Bob spews:

    Ah, yes. That racist ‘N’-word screamed by someone just before the Obamacare vote. Screamed at Clyburn and heard clearly by Cleaver, until all those camcorders and videorecorders couldn’t verify it, Breitbart offered $100K to anyone who could prove it actually happened, and then Cleaver clammed up when it became clear that his lie was going somewhere he didn’t want it to go.

    The alleged racism that your ilk used as your 2010 defense, instead of defending your behavior on its merits.

    How’d that work out for ya?

  90. 104

    spews:

    the loaned money was replaced by new loans.

    The U.S. taxpayer is off the hook. The original plan was for the loan to be paid back in 2017.

    AUTO WORKERS HAVE JOBS. Last time I looked this economy needed those..

    Funny that some right wingers seem to prefer lots of people being out of worker. Oh yeah something about that driving down wages.

  91. 105

    spews:

    So let’s watch “Bob”‘s teahadists tank the economy the rest of the way.

    Good thing you couldn’t kill Chrysler asshole.

  92. 106

    Bob spews:

    @104

    US spent $13B to bail out an underperforming car company now only worth $5B (and that’s after all of the liabilities it formerly had were written off).

    Department of Energy still has a $3.5B loan to Chrysler outstanding.

    All this so we could give 80% of the company to a foreign corporation, and UAW salaries remain artificially high and will harm private US corporations, notably Ford, going forward.

  93. 107

    spews:

    Fucking Alito deserved to be filibustered. Neither he nor “Fat Tony” Scalia” should EVER have been approved…

  94. 108

    Bob spews:

    @105.

    Yeah, we need those Chrysler-produced SUVs to produce more carbon and waste more fossil fuel. Good thing we didn’t make it easier for a buyer to snag a Prius.

  95. 110

    Bob spews:

    @ 107

    Scalia passed the Senate 98-0. If only they had had the benefit of your sage wisdom back then. You could have worn your skimpy little cheerleader outfit when you testified before the Judiciary Committee about ‘Fat Tony’.

    All you need is a red plastic nose and big floppy shoes, Rujax. You’re a clown.

  96. 111

    spews:

    I just heard the debt bill passed the House and..

    Gabby Giffords showed to vote for it.

    Fait accompli in the Senate.

    Crisis averted if the oh so credible ratings agencies don’t get a bug up their collective backsides.

    What are you going to do now with all that cash Roger Rabbit?

    Any bargains you have your eye on?

  97. 113

    spews:

    UAW salaries remain

    adequate to provide a worker and his family with a middle class living. Spending their surplus into the economy creating yet more jobs. Tsk, tsk, such a tragedy..

    Unlike salaries in right to be poor states.. Oh wait a minute – those foreign car companies have to pay their workers something roughly equivalent, roughly anyway…

    Damn those elitist union workers taking the spoils of what they and their parents fought for!

  98. 114

    Bob spews:

    @ 113

    High school graduates quickly being replaced by robots and computers with just-in-time inventory management shouldn’t be making $100K just because they’re UAW.

    That’s the reality. Unions were averse to re-training when it was offered as compensation. Now they have members that don’t know how to do anything but the job for which they are no longer required, because technology has advanced.

  99. 115

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @65 “Sherril Huff is doing a fine job running KCREALS and elections here are more smoothly run and transparent than ever. No right wing whackjob is EVER going to replace her as long as voters here know what is good for them.”

    Not to put too fine a point on it, but she’s certainly doing a better job (and Dean Logan did, too) than that blatantly partisan hack in Wisconsin who has been repeatedly reprimanded by state election officials for not following state-prescribed ballot-counting procedures who flipped a key election by “finding” 14,000 more ballots in canvas bags with fist-sized holes in their bottoms.

  100. 116

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @66 “YLB, fuck you back too.”

    Your rhetorical repertoire seems to have a pretty limited range.

  101. 117

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @116 To which I would add that the lone rhetorical device in your toolkit happens to be one you plagiarized from me.

  102. 119

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    In general, with Josef, there’s not a hell of a lot of original thought going on there.

  103. 120

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @118 Look up the word “hypocrisy” in a dictionary and you’ll see what Wisconsin has to do with this. If, then, you still don’t see the connection, have some seventh-grader explain it to you.

  104. 122

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    You see, Josef, the difference between Democrats and you is, Democrats whined for about 5 days and then moved on, whereas you’re still whining 7 1/2 years later.

  105. 125

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @67 Well, I’m glad to see that at least one wingnut has at least a little reality perception.

  106. 128

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @68 “Oh and BTW, more votes than voters is unacceptable. Every vote should have a voter, much preferably legal and every voter should vote.”

    Another WSRP myth that was debunked long ago. Give it up, Josef. The 2004 election was completely hashed out in this blog years ago. Everyone else has moved on. I realize you’ve just come out of a 5-year coma — and I want to say we’ve missed your stupidity in these threads — but there are other things to talk about now. Maybe you’d to say something about the dozens of House Republicans who today voted AGAINST the debt bill?

  107. 129

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @69 What is Stefan’s qualification to run the nation’s largest absentee-ballot election bureau?

  108. 132

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @72 “how does doing nothing, as Dems did regarding Jefferson”

    That’s bullshit, and I don’t need to reply to it, because I’ve already posted in this thread what the Democrats did to him.

    The only thing I would add is, “cf. Doc Hastings,” who was picked by his caucus to specifically do nothing.

  109. 134

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @82 “don’t enjoy the handouts given to union members”

    I know a lot of union members, and none of them enjoy the mansions and sports cars enjoyed by a lot of people who vote Republican. When the hell did anyone ever get rich by performed unionized labor? Unions, at their best, provide a comfortable middle class lifestyle for people who work damn hard, are good at what they do, and are highly productive.

  110. 135

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    A union shipfitter produces more tangible economic output in one day than a billion-dollar-a-year hedge fund manager produces in his entire career.

  111. 136

    spews:

    Union members making 100k – what an outrage!

    Hedge Fund Managers taking in billions through “carried interest” – CUT THEIR TAXES!

    Those are the “job creators”..

  112. 137

    That there is Cundalini....and Cundalini wants his hand back spews:

    @124

    LMFAO…do the koch brothers ring a bell?

    shit, talk about super-boogedymen…one mention of their name and its all out froth-a-thon.

  113. 138

    That there is Cundalini....and Cundalini wants his hand back spews:

    LMFAO…I would like to see a single hedge fund “manager” making billions.

    and we certainly know you, YLBarrio, arent a job creator.

  114. 139

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @87 I voted for Clinton, not Obama, in my caucus because I believed then — and still believe now — that we needed the bitch in combat boots. No, I don’t like her, and her husband even less, but in war you don’t choose generals based on personality.

  115. 143

    That there is Cundalini....and Cundalini wants his hand back spews:

    88. Rujax! spews:
    Paid troll “Bob”.

    Welcome to HA, asshole…now go home.

    well at least he has a damn job, which is more than you can say…seems nobody wants to hire a flunkie musician with no other skills.

  116. 144

    That there is Cundalini....and Cundalini wants his hand back spews:

    105. Rujax! spews:
    So let’s watch “Bob”’s teahadists tank the economy the rest of the way.

    Good thing you couldn’t kill Chrysler asshole.

    you should be thanking FIAT dummy.

  117. 146

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    So, Josef, you’ve been gone for quite a while … when did you get released from Western State?

  118. 147

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @136 The only “union member” making 100k I’ve heard about is that Washington State Liquor Store clerk fingered by WSRP who turned out to be two employees with the same name — one of them made $28,000 a year and the other made $34,000 a year, or something like that.

  119. 148

    That there is Cundalini....and Cundalini wants his hand back spews:

    Logan was a democrat operative and a crook.

    period…and the fact that a rabid partisan nutjob like rabbit was involved in “observing” just drives home that fact.

    king county should be called crook county.

  120. 149

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @137 No comparison; the Koch brothers really do pour millions into shadowy rightwing front organizations that are nothing but megaphones for their own extreme-right (and extremely self-interested) political agenda.

  121. 150

    That there is Cundalini....and Cundalini wants his hand back spews:

    @147

    then you are out of touch with reality. I know plenty of people in various unions who easily clear six figures…and I am not talking about management rolls either.

    its like your brain is stuck in the 70’s or something.

  122. 151

    That there is Cundalini....and Cundalini wants his hand back spews:

    @149

    ya, because no rich leftnuts do the same thing.

    out of touch much?

  123. 153

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @148 “Logan was a democrat operative and a crook.”

    You’re one-third right — when he was the elected auditor of Kittitas County, he was a Democratic office holder.

    “that a rabid partisan nutjob like rabbit”

    You’re at least one-third, and possibly two-thirds, right — I’m partisan, and my rabies vaccine has expired.

  124. 154

    spews:

    Oh here’s some wonderful outcomes for the right wing Republicans who have created our brave new economy:

    COLLEGE BABES!

    Nice job there right wingers (ones that have money anyway) – offshoring, funding 500 lobbyists to every Congressman, obstructing Obama.

    This is your “due”!

  125. 155

    That there is Cundalini....and Cundalini wants his hand back spews:

    those are people who run or own businesses that manage hedge funds…hardly what I consider everyday “managers”.

    I know its only semantics…

  126. 156

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @150 I’ve heard the guys who run the waterfront cranes make six figures, but I don’t know any of them personally — they don’t live in my neighborhood.

  127. 157

    That there is Cundalini....and Cundalini wants his hand back spews:

    just goes to show that even skanks attend college.

  128. 159

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @151 If you’re thinking of Soros, no, he doesn’t do what the Koches do. He has given money to liberal groups like MoveOn, but he didn’t create MO and it isn’t a storefront for his views, MO is a real organization run by ordinary people at the grassroots level.

  129. 160

    That there is Cundalini....and Cundalini wants his hand back spews:

    @156

    well shit man, make up your mind!

    first you say you have never heard of any union members making over $100k, then you say you have heard that some union members are making over $100k.

    and yes, the longshoremen do very very well.

  130. 161

    That there is Cundalini....and Cundalini wants his hand back spews:

    @151

    fuck you are delusional…or just plain clueless.

  131. 162

    That there is Cundalini....and Cundalini wants his hand back spews:

    @161

    correction…should have been addressed to post @159, not 151

  132. 163

    spews:

    157 – Just to show there’s many right wingers with money to burn aching to receive their “due”.

    Don’t run too fast bigot baloney brain – you might blow out your knee or twist an ankle.

  133. 164

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    HOUSE PASSES DEBT BILL

    But Rep. Gabrielle Giffords stole the show by walking onto the House floor for the first time since she was shot in the head by a rightwing whackjob who idolizes White Supremacists, drawing a thunderous standing ovation from the entire House.

  134. 165

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Another rightwing whackjob who idolizes White Supremacists, and bombed and shot his way to global infamy, had cosmetic surgery in the U.S. to make his facial features look “more Aryan,” according to Norwegian authorities.

  135. 166

    That there is Cundalini....and Cundalini wants his hand back spews:

    @163

    I am in far too good of shape to blow out a knee.

    now, a spineless fish like you – well you might just need to have both knee’s scraped and cleaned.

  136. 167

    That there is Cundalini....and Cundalini wants his hand back spews:

    damn YLBarrio, Im surprised you are still posting after the thundering ownage that bob put down on you today. you couldnt refute a single post of his.

    and we already saw rujaxoff run away like the little girl he is…

  137. 168

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @166 Has nothing to do with the shape you’re in; all you have to do is hit age 40. Just ask my brother — the fool tried to play soccer at age 42 and blew out BOTH knees.

  138. 171

    That there is Cundalini....and Cundalini wants his hand back spews:

    @170

    no, thats your oxygen tank being turned on too high.

  139. 172

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Well, I’ve got serious work to do, I have to get ready for tomorrow’s stock market so later, asshats!

  140. 174

    spews:

    moron @ 167

    It’s pretty sad if you believe anything you say here bothers me. Hasn’t for a long time.

    It amuses me how someone can cling to being so stupid.

    I’m going to be here in November 2012.

    Count on it.

  141. 177

    Puddybud, identifying northwest liberals who elected an underexperienced man to the presidency weighed down by an oversized ego spews:

    @20 If you can’t even get your own party candidate’s gender straight, why should anyone listen to anything else you say?

    Roger Dumb Rabbit… That was rhp6033… Certified leftie and Cass Sunstein’s Homer Simpson Malleable Idiot @4!

    Too bad you don’t even know the playas on this blog anymore.

    As stupid as a box of chocolates!

  142. 178

    Puddybud, identifying northwest liberals who elected an underexperienced man to the presidency weighed down by an oversized ego spews:

    Republicans objected to the investigation of Jefferson:

    And why did Republicans object arschloch?

    It was a Separation of Powers concern ya moron!

    Man you are an idiot every day!

  143. 180

    Puddybud, identifying northwest liberals who elected an underexperienced man to the presidency weighed down by an oversized ego spews:

    Sighhh… More “ass pounding” metaphors from the execrable “Bob”..

    Once again arschloch is an idiot sandwich.

    This was a comment from a leftist pinhead arschloch!

    Rep. Emanuel Cleaver, D-Mo.speaking on Capitol Hill in Washington on Wednesday, July 20, 2011. “This is a Satan sandwich, there’s no question about it,” said Cleaver on Monday.

    Once again everyone can see how much of a moron your crazed HA databaze idiot is!

    LMBBAO!

  144. 181

    spews:

    178 – Had an nytimes link stupid..

    Get your eyesight checked moron. Not that it would help any.

    You can’t f’ing read anyway. And even if you could..

    You can’t understand what’s written.. Unless it stinks like Limbaugh’s poop..

  145. 182

    spews:

    180 – Yawn can’t read, can’t remember..

    Bob said “suppository”, he also said “ass pounding” back last November..

    Wake up stupid.. You’re sleepwalking..

  146. 183

    Puddybud, identifying northwest liberals who elected an underexperienced man to the presidency weighed down by an oversized ego spews:

    28 – Over 30 percent of which was TAX CUTS which are supposed to cure ANYTHING even the common cold didn’t you know??

    And how many Republicans voted for it arschloch?

    Another of your idiotic moronic comments!

    Don’t read it. Didn’t you check your HA databaze first?

    LMBBAO!

  147. 184

    Puddybud, identifying northwest liberals who elected an underexperienced man to the presidency weighed down by an oversized ego spews:

    @181&2

    Useless diarrhea and farts from the arschloch! You placed the link with and suggested Repubicans supported “The Freezer”.

    Nope you DOPE!

    Useless as tits on a rooster!

  148. 185

    Puddybud, identifying northwest liberals who elected an underexperienced man to the presidency weighed down by an oversized ego spews:

    Bob said “suppository”, he also said “ass pounding” back last November..

    Who the hell cares moron! The comment was from a leftist pinhead TODAY!

    You cruise the kook-aid sites and you don’t even know what leftist DUMMOCRAPTS say!

    Once again your arschloch speaks first!

    LMBBAO!

  149. 186

    spews:

    183 – Enough to matter stupid..

    What else?

    184 – You must be mad that I made you look like a dumb brick on my blog..

    So dense it’s sad, sad…

  150. 187

    spews:

    185 – People who care about holding right wing liars accountable dumbass..

    Keep going.. This is amusing to me..

  151. 188

    Puddybud, identifying northwest liberals who elected an underexperienced man to the presidency weighed down by an oversized ego spews:

    Activist And…

    President of the Harvard Law Review (elected in great part by the support of conservatives by the way) – where did you get that arschloch – kook-aid site? From the NY Times

    Change in Selection System

    Mr. Obama was elected after a meeting of the review’s 80 editors that convened Sunday and lasted until early this morning, a participant said.

    Until the 1970’s the editors were picked on the basis of grades, and the president of the Law Review was the student with the highest academic rank. Among these were Elliot L. Richardson, the former Attorney General, and Irwin Griswold, a dean of the Harvard Law School and Solicitor General under Presidents Lyndon B. Johnson and Richard M. Nixon.

    That system came under attack in the 1970’s and was replaced by a program in which about half the editors are chosen for their grades and the other half are chosen by fellow students after a special writing competition. The new system, disputed when it began, was meant to help insure that minority students became editors of The Law Review.

    Attorney – So? What/who did he represent in court

    Constitutional Law instructor – So

    8 year State Senator – Voted present 130 times

    brief tenure in the U.S. Senate with some notable accomplishments… Yeah here’s one he’s now following in da whitey house…

    **The Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 is an act that requires the full disclosure of all entities or organizations receiving federal funds beginning in fiscal year (FY) 2007 on a website maintained by the Office of Management and Budget.

    So he “co-sponsored” a few what did he “sponsor” that made a difference?

  152. 189

    Puddybud, identifying northwest liberals who elected an underexperienced man to the presidency weighed down by an oversized ego spews:

    Oh my the arschloch lunacy continues above.

    LMBBAO! Absolutely nothing in #186&7

    Nuthin then. Nuthin now. And nuthin when you post again!

    LMBBAO!

  153. 190

    Puddybud, identifying northwest liberals who elected an underexperienced man to the presidency weighed down by an oversized ego spews:

    183 – Enough to matter stupid..

    You don’t even know.

    LMBBAO!

    No Republican in the House voted for it. That’s why House Republicans tear it a new arschloch every day.

    So stupid without his crazed databaze!

  154. 191

    spews:

    President of the Harvard Law Review (elected in great part by the support of conservatives by the way) – where did you get that HA HERO YLB??

    Where’s your teh google skillz stupid? Must I show your dumb ass how its done every time?

    But there were a number of people that would have met that criterion. There were at least a large handful who probably had the intellectual and personal characteristics to be good leaders of the Review. From among those, the conservatives were eager to have somebody who would treat them fairly, who would listen to what they had to say, who would not abuse the powers of the office to favor his ideological soul mates and punish those who had different views. Somebody who would basically play it straight, I think was really what we were looking for.

    Was that hard to find?

    It was very hard to find. And ultimately, the conservatives on the Review supported Barack as president in the final rounds of balloting because he fit that bill far better than the other people who were running. …

    Read more: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/.....z1TputrTj4

    Oh man! YOU.ARE.STUPID…

  155. 192

    spews:

    188 – and you confused EDITOR with PRESIDENT..

    Almost ALL of that quote is irrelevant to what Obama did at the Review and how he came to be elected President of the Review.

    So dumb…

  156. 193

    Michael spews:

    @156
    Probably a very few of them and they do it by working scads of overtime. Personally, I’ll take my lower salary and 3 day weekend every weekend.

  157. 194

    Michael spews:

    Shipping company owners make a ton of cash, why shouldn’t the guys that actually do the work get some of it?

  158. 195

    Puddybud, identifying northwest liberals who elected an underexperienced man to the presidency weighed down by an oversized ego spews:

    Almost ALL of that quote is irrelevant to what Obama did at the Review and how he came to be elected President of the Review.

    So the NY Times is dumb? Well you used it above DUMMY!

    Can you say TEH STOOOOOOOOOOOPID?

    TEH arschloch STOOOOOOOOOOOPID

  159. 196

    spews:

    So the NY Times is dumb?

    NO YOU ARE DUMB for using a quote that doesn’t support your blather.

    Btw I refuted your STUPID ASS on conservatives supporting Obama for Harvard Law Review president.

    Why is he POTUS??? Because he’s got a lot more smarts and talent than you’ll ever have in your miserable existence..

  160. 197

    Puddybud, identifying northwest liberals who elected an underexperienced man to the presidency weighed down by an oversized ego spews:

    NO YOU ARE DUMB for using a quote that doesn’t support your blather.

    Apparently reading isn’t fundamental to you!

    Why is he POTUS???

    Because he fooled many people who won’t be fooled in 2012!

    Refuted what? Using PBS? LMBBAO!

    Sucks to be you!

  161. 198

    proud leftist spews:

    Puddy, any chance you could tell me how any of the puppies competing for the GOP presidential nomination are smarter than Obama? You would be wrong if you tried. And, BTW, you are the party that prefers term limits. That means you despise experience in politics. A really, really stupid position. But, what the hell. That’s your party’s MO.

  162. 199

    spews:

    Refuted what? Using PBS?

    Yep, PBS interviewed Bradford Berenson. Who is he?

    Only former White House Counsel under the miserable FAILURE YOU VOTED FOR TWICE DUMBASS!

    Yes you dumbass. Bradford Berenson was the one who said conservatives voted for Obama for Law Review President.

    YOU ARE ONE MISERABLE RIGHT WINGER WITH YOUR HEAD LODGED PERMANENTLY WHERE THE SUN DOESN”T SHINE!

  163. 200

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    YLB, I’m gonna nominate you for sainthood for arguing with that fucking idiot.

  164. 201

    Puddybud, identifying northwest liberals who elected an underexperienced man to the presidency weighed down by an oversized ego spews:

    smarter than Obama?

    Well proud leftist… Obummer never released his college grades. Remember the argument you and your ilk claimed Kerry was smarter than Bush only to show Bush had better grades than Kerry?

    So no one really knows about Obummer except he was “voted” in as a law review editor. And since most of his vaulted economic team bailed…

  165. 202

    Puddybud, identifying northwest liberals who elected an underexperienced man to the presidency weighed down by an oversized ego spews:

    Ahhh yes went to the Frontline piece and what did I see? Another selective yank from the arschloch.

    Of course he never selected the words which said…

    Before [Obama] went off [to Harvard], he said to some of his community-organizing buddies he needed that credential, that Harvard Law degree, to access the corridors of power and to have that credential because he wasn’t going to get that as a community organizer in Chicago.

    Or

    Harvard Law, I think in his own mind, really helped him establish himself as an elite person in our society.

    Yep you focus on the one comment that makes your “position” look good.

    Miserable pile of excrement! That’s why I call you the arschloch! Yes he may have been smart, who knows no one has seen his grades… but we also see he was power hungry. Kind of reminds you of some historical figures and their power grabs.

    I realize with that fetid brain cell you won’t get it.

    Oh and Roger Dumb Rabbit, if you read the story you’d view those comments too.

    LMBBAO!

  166. 203

    Ekim pointing out that ButtPutty just smells bad spews:

    My oh my. ButtPutty, who really does smell bad, referring to someone else as a “Miserable pile of excrement!”

    Projecting again, ButtPutty?

  167. 204

    Ekim pointing out that ButtPutty just smells bad spews:

    Hey ButtPutty, how come you’re not pushing your favorite preacher, Bradlee Dean, any more? You know, the guy who is suing Rachel Maddow? Could it be because even Minnesota House Republicans were disgusted with him after his performance there?

  168. 205

    spews:

    202 – Yawwwwn.. Right winger Bradford Berenson confirmed that Obama received support for President of the Law Review from conservatives at the Law Review. Conservatives supported him because they were confident he’d give them a fair shake even though they knew his positions on the issues were clearly to the left of theirs..

    I didn’t get this information from any left wing website as you claimed dipshit. I got this straight from the mouth of a conservative who worked in the White House for the disaster you voted for twice.

    Now you try to deflect with something completely irrelevant.

    Power hungry??? How stupid are you?? Name a politician out there who isn’t ambitious. Surely not that moron you voted for twice???

    Silly as always.

  169. 206

    Steve spews:

    “identifying northwest liberals who elected an underexperienced man”

    The loon’s solution, of course, is to put an inexperienced wingnut in the office to replace a man who would by then have four years experience. It makes perfect sense – to a loon.

  170. 207

    W. Klingon Skousen's log removal service spews:

    Bob — Do you know why they are called entitlements? Because we pay for them, and , ipso fatso are entitled to them. If you cut SS, where will Republicans get all the extra cash that they like spending under the table? There’s only so many arms that you can sell on the sly to the Iranians.

    The ‘spending cuts’ that your hallowed nitwits of the ‘bagger movement are pushing are cuts that will only hurt their own interests — and they don’t understand that.

    This whole ‘cut spending’ meme is so that the economy will tank and job creation will slow so that Republicans can falsely promise, once again like in 2010, that they will produce jobs.

    You won’t have a viable candidate in 2012, so Obama will win by default. Hopefully, he’ll take a cue from the King of Pop and do a little crotch-grabbing victory dance.

    He may rediscover in his second term a part of his anatomy that he had forgotten about.

    And, yes: A huge ‘bagger poster of Obama with a bone through his nose is racist.

  171. 208

    No time for fascists spews:

    Superhero of color: Spider-Man reveals himself to be Miles Morales, a half-black, half-Hispanic teen. He’s not replacing Peter Parker, though; his story runs in a parallel universe.
    http://www.usatoday.com/life/c.....-man_n.htm

    And the racist bigoted comment were running about 10 to 1 against.
    Here are some highlights.

    - “But in the Ultimate line, launched in 2000 to tell contemporary stories”. Why does everything have to be political correct?
    – There you go…must… be a race change due to the Census.
    – Disgusting
    – Miles Morales resembles Barack Obama. Cool!…That in itself makes me want to puke
    – Enough of this politically correct, racist nonsense.
    – Shame on Marvel Comics! This is not diversity; this is a disgrace! Spiderman was Peter Parker, and Peter Parker was white. Create a new character if you want to prove that Marvel Comics is “diverse”. Minorities are typically less than 18% of the population, but they seem to get nearly 100% of the history. Why should white children not have a comic book hero that they can identify with?
    – Well, that nails it. Spidey’s dead to me.
    – Once again, PC run amok! First, who cares what color a super hero’s skin is? Liberals? Second, modifying traditional hero’s to satisfy Leftist PC garbage takes away something from the culture.
    – Peter Parker could not be whiter. A black boy under the mask just don`t look right. This opens up a whole new story line with a whole new set of problems. Who is going to believe a black man in a mask is out for the good of man kind?
    – Actually, we have a half African-American President.
    – WRONG! We have a African President.
    – super hero affirmative action
    – what a load of @#$%. What special interest group is forcing this…
    – Shouldn’t his name be JaMiles NoMorals.
    – Does he speak Spanish or Ebonics?
    – I guess the new villains will be white republicans with jobs.
    – LOL. A crackhead spiderman who steals cars? Cool. Well, it’s different.
    – Makes sense, that’s where all the crime is !
    – Half-black, half-Hispanic = unemployed
    and
    – I can’t believe how latently racist and overtly ignorant this comment section is.

    Post racial socity my ass!
    I get that some people don’t want their childhood superhero changed. I hated it when DC rebooted the Legion.
    But these people feel that the spiderman change was a subversive plot by liberals and Obama to do something nefarious, like further dilute white culture i guess. I bet most of them identify as conservative. I wonder how puddy feels hanging around with this crowd. I wonder what they think of him?

  172. 209

    Ekim pointing out that ButtPutty just smells bad spews:

    208. No time for fascists spews:
    Post racial society my ass!

    What is the difference between the good ol’ Klan of years past and the Retarded Right of today?

    Sheets and pointy hats.

    What is the same?

    Hate, bigotry and violence.
    Just slightly different targets, huh, ButtPutty?

  173. 210

    Ekim pointing out that ButtPutty just smells bad spews:

    I wonder how puddy feels hanging around with this crowd.

    ButtPutty is full of racial self hatred. He fits right in.

    I wonder what they think of him?

    Proprietary ownership.

    I was at this small golf course in Eastern Washington, sitting in this group of farmers. (All white) One man says as a joke: “I have nothing against *niggers. I think everyone should own one.” The others laughed.

    *Don’t blame me. I’m just reporting what a God fearing Republican thought was a good joke.

  174. 211

    No time for fascists spews:

    I don’t remember people being irritated with Spiderman 2099 when he was latino, but looked white.
    But now, with this teabagger charged environment, they freak about this alternate universe replacement for spider man.

  175. 212

    Puddybud, identifying northwest liberals who elected an underexperienced man to the presidency weighed down by an oversized ego spews:

    I was at this small golf course in Eastern Washington, sitting in this group of farmers. (All white) One man says as a joke: “I have nothing against *niggers. I think everyone should own one.” The others laughed.

    And of course ekim said nothing… implied agreement per rhp6033. Hey that was his fetid argument on me with Glenn Beck.

    Of course our resident goat/sheep lover was over in Eastern Wash looking for his next “victim”!

  176. 213

    Puddybud, identifying northwest liberals who elected an underexperienced man to the presidency weighed down by an oversized ego spews:

    I did get this information from a left wing website just as you claimed Puddy

    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/.....z1TputrTj4

    From the DUMMOCRAPTIC UNDERGROUND!

    So, is PBS a left or right leaning entity? I look at is as a left leaning entity.

    And they have that leftist pinhead BILL MOYERS!

    See…, if you perform a little research you’ll always find arschloch visiting kook-aid!

    And… I used the same kook-aid site he used to post the real deal.

    Power hungry…
    Wanting to be an elite in society…

    Yes we see what that’s doing to America eh arschloch?

    Yep, thanks to DUmmies you lose again!

  177. 214

    Ekim pointing out that ButtPutty just smells bad spews:

    ButtPutty, who smells really bad spews:
    I’m the resident goat/sheep fucker. I won’t take second place from anyone.

    Whoa, big boy, nobody is trying to take your boyfriends away from you.

  178. 215

    Puddybud, identifying northwest liberals who elected an underexperienced man to the presidency weighed down by an oversized ego spews:

    Golly ekim, when I visit Eastern Wa for business and look whitey “farmers” straight in the eye they don’t flinch or lose eye contact as we discuss things. I have a great time with these “farmers”. Must be they feel different around you ekim.

    Must be I get respect!

    LMBBAO!

  179. 216

    Puddybud, identifying northwest liberals who elected an underexperienced man to the presidency weighed down by an oversized ego spews:

    ekim@214,

    The only place you’ll find your comment is in 214. Looks like the truth of your visit was SPOT ON!

    So how many victims did you select?

    LMBBAO!

  180. 217

    Ekim pointing out that ButtPutty just smells bad spews:

    Remember seeing Palin’s ‘Undefeated’? Me neither.

    Same with the rest of the country. Box office after the June release in 14 Teahadist friendly cities? $24K.

    Hey ButtPutty, wasn’t the Sarah one of your heroes? How many times did you see her movie? Did you recommend it as a “must see” movie? I don’t remember any more. You recommend so many losers it is hard to keep track.

  181. 218

    Ekim pointing out that ButtPutty just smells bad spews:

    ButtPutty, who smells really bad spews:
    Must be I get respect!

    Sure ButtPutty, sure. We understand. You get respect.

    You so very funny. And smelly, too.

  182. 219

    Ekim pointing out that ButtPutty just smells bad spews:

    ButtPutty, who smells really bad spews:
    Golly ekim, when I visit Eastern Wa for business and look whitey “farmers” straight in the eye they don’t flinch or lose eye contact as we discuss things.

    Ah, ButtPutty, of course they don’t flinch or loose eye contact. They are selling you goats at 4 times what they sell to the Mexicans. They are more than happy to take your money.

    It is after you’re gone the start laughing.

  183. 220

    Puddybud, identifying northwest liberals who elected an underexperienced man to the presidency weighed down by an oversized ego spews:

    Like I said above,

    I was at this small golf course in Eastern Washington, sitting in this group of farmers. (All white) One man says as a joke: “I have nothing against *niggers. I think everyone should own one.” The others laughed.

    And of course ekim said nothing…

    And you are still saying nothing!

    BTW bestiality on this site is all your peeps!

  184. 221

    Ekim pointing out that ButtPutty just smells bad spews:

    Mexicans buy goats for parties. But unlike ButtPutty, Mexicans cook the goats for nice tasty meals.

    If you’re invited to a Mexican partiy, be sure to go, but be sure to tell your host how hot you like your food. Some dishes can take your head off.

  185. 222

    Ekim pointing out that ButtPutty just smells bad spews:

    ButtPutty all unhappy getting called out for his wild goat parties. Too bad, ButtPutty.

  186. 223

    Ekim pointing out that ButtPutty just smells bad spews:

    ButtPutty protests too much. Of course he fucks the goats. This is well documented on list.

    ButtPutty says not true. But ButtPutty never offers proof. ButtPutty guilty. But don’t worry, your secret is safe here.

  187. 224

    Puddybud, identifying northwest liberals who elected an underexperienced man to the presidency weighed down by an oversized ego spews:

    Oh my ekim,

    You’ve really fallen off the deep end now!

    This is well documented on list.

    Proving a negative. So ekim prove to everyone you don’t fuck goats or sheep. I went to UD and they have you on record. Check it out! The attached picture was one of your finest they said on UD!

    We’ll wait.

    LMBBAO!

  188. 225

    Puddybud, identifying northwest liberals who elected an underexperienced man to the presidency weighed down by an oversized ego spews:

    Like I said above,

    I was at this small golf course in Eastern Washington, sitting in this group of farmers. (All white) One man says as a joke: “I have nothing against *niggers. I think everyone should own one.” The others laughed.

    And of course ekim said nothing… He enjoyed the joke so much he repeated it here.

  189. 226

    Michael spews:

    I didn’t see the original post about the racist farmer, but you can find the same statements over here on the west side and you can find plenty of open minded, friendly folks over on the east side of the state.

    And WTF’s the deal with every single person in Eastern WA being a farmer and rural? The second largest city in Washington is in Eastern Washington!