Open Thread

John McCain’s new chart-topping single:

(And about ninety more media clips from the past week in politics can be found at Hominid Views.)


  1. 1

    PuddyPrick, The Fact Finding Prognosticator... spews:

    Hey Darryl, I sent you an email. Of course I didn’t think you’d answer it.

  2. 2

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    I think a bona fide war hero like John McCain is a fine decoration for the Senate chamber, as long as he doesn’t vote on too much important stuff (e.g., war, the economy, Boeing contracts, etc.).

  3. 3

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Maybe you sent it to Timbuktu instead of Darryl. You don’t get anything else right, so why wouldn’t you fuck up sending an e-mail, too?

  4. 4

    PuddyPrick, The Fact Finding Prognosticator... spews:

    Pelletizer: Hemorrhoid, I have more computer skills than you’ll ever possess.

  5. 5

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    It’s official: The Netroots have supplanted the Old Media in reach and influence! To wit:

    “The fund-raising power and viral reach of the Internet are far more crucial to the fortunes of a presidential candidate than sitting around eating cookies with The Washington Post’s editorial board.” — Newsweek

    Quoted under fair use; for complete article and/or copyright info see

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: The insertion of the adjective “viral” is telling, isn’t it? Newsweek finally admits — grudgingly — that the Netroots has more influence on presidential elections than the dead-tree media, but couldn’t resist showing their displeasure by tossing in a gratuitous and inflammatory adjective. That’s the editorial equivalent of a street drunk breaking a bottle against the curb because you refused to give him money.

  6. 6

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @4 No doubt; but when I e-mail Darryl, I get a response. How come you don’t?


  7. 7

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Don’t go away, folks! We’re only 6 posts into this thread and already have a fireworks show going!! So don’t waste your time on the sucky little rival wingnut blog. They’re about as exciting as growing grass.

  8. 8

    harry poon spews:

    If there is anything the monied elite hates, it’s average citizens organizing. They will strive mightily to squelch ‘the internets’.

    Some have already warned that the tubes of the internets are getting all plugged up.

  9. 9

    PuddyPrick, The Fact Finding Prognosticator... spews:

    Maybe Pelletizer my question was too tough for him. In fact he’ll be thinking long and hard on this one… he’ll have to prove his manhood!

  10. 10


    “The fund-raising power and viral reach of the Internet are far more crucial to the fortunes of a presidential candidate than sitting around eating cookies with The Washington Post’s editorial board.” — Newsweek

    That’s true for Democrats today. It’ll be true for Republicans after one or two more ass-whuppings.

  11. 11

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @9 Maybe he didn’t get your e-mail because you don’t know how to click the “send” button, genius.

  12. 12

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Big, manipulative, arrogant corporations have nothing but contempt for the internet and ordinary citizens. If you subscribe to Comcast, you may want to rethink letting them be your ISP after reading this article:

    “Allegations Fly in FCC Hearing Aftermath

    “From Associated Press, February 26, 2008
    “By Mark Jewell

    “The organizer of a federal hearing at Harvard Law School on Comcast Corp.’s treatment of subscriber Internet traffic on Wednesday said ‘seat-warmers’ apparently hired by the company prevented other attendees from getting in.

    “Comcast has acknowledged that it hired an unspecified number of people to fill seats, but said the seat-warmers gave up their spots when Boston area Comcast employees who were advised about the hearing arrived.

    “But Catherine Bracy, the administrative manager at Harvard’s Berkman Center for Internet and Society, said most of the three dozen seat-warmers who arrived hours before the Federal Communications Commission hearing’s … remained during the event’s opening hours, as … the public [was] turned away.

    “Bracy said she saw a couple of the hired people dozing in the front row during opening remarks. ‘I think it’s disingenuous to say they were holding spots for Comcast employees,’ Bracy told The Associated Press, a day after advocacy groups that filed an FCC complaint over Comcast’s network management accused the firm of trying to stifle debate at the hearing.

    “Bracy said when she arrived … none of the 35 to 40 people waiting to get in appeared to know what the hearing’s subject matter would be. ‘No employees came in to take those seats when the event started,’ Bracy said.

    “Comcast … said it hired seat-holders … after an advocacy group … urged its backers to attend. …

    “The practice of hiring people to fill seats in … public hearings isn’t unknown in Congress and other forums, but Comcast critics said this case was unique. ‘First, Comcast was caught blocking the Internet. Now it has been caught blocking the public from the debate,’ said Timothy Karr, director of an advocacy campaign …. ‘The only people cheering Comcast are those paid to do so.’ …

    “The hearing came in response to complaints before the FCC that Comcast, the nation’s largest cable company, hampered file-sharing traffic on its cable-modem service. The company … [claims] its traffic management practices are necessary to keep other Internet traffic … flowing smoothly.

    “During the hearing, FCC commissioners signaled that they … were ready … to enforce the agency’s ‘open Internet’ policies.”

    Quoted under fair use; for complete story and/or copyright info see

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: Comcast is an extremely aggressive company. I get more than 100 junk mailers from them a year – literally hundreds of pieces of junk mail from Comcast over the years, all trying to get me to buy their service. I never have, and never will, so why do they keep killing trees to send me this crap? And how much is it costing taxpayers to subsidize the nearly free postage companies like Comcast get to clog our mailboxes and recycle containers with their unwanted and unheeded sales pitches? I mean, I can see a company sending you direct mail to advertise what they sell, and if you don’t respond, a followup mailer or two — but they ought to be able to figure out that if they send over 1,000 mailers over a 10-year period to someone who has never responded, that recipient probably isn’t interested in their product or service.

    Action links:

    To send a comment to the FCC objecting to Comcast’s internet censorship, click here:

    To ask your congressperson to support the Internet Freedom Preservation Act, click here:

  13. 13

    PuddyPrick, The Fact Finding Prognosticator... spews:

    Pelletizer@11: The delivery receipt said it was delivered to his mailbox.

    These are the leetle tricks people in the know know how to do Pelletmaker.

  14. 15

    YLB spews:

    Poor little Stupes. Still trying to get attention from the grown ups.

    The audacity of dopes.

  15. 17

    Sempersimper spews:


    You have to give him credit for perseverance. He works very, very hard to appear a total idiot.

    He succeeds!

  16. 19

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    How Companies Rip Off Consumers

    We’re all familiar with dirty little tricks played on consumers by dishonest companies — half-empty cereal boxes, cascading NSF charges by banks, extra charges that jack up advertised prices, etc.

    According to an article in the fishwrapper, hidden fees and other sneaky ways of dipping into unsuspecting consumers’ wallets are on the rise:

    “Hidden fees and surcharges … are spreading like wildfire …. Many of the charges are undisclosed ….

    “A 2006 study by … an independent business-research firm, found that the average adult pays about $942 each year in hidden fees and surcharges. The study’s results are featured in ‘Gotcha Capitalism,’ a new book by consumer advocate Bob Sullivan, who called the fees the ‘fastest-growing white-collar crime in America,’ even bigger than identity theft. …

    “Consumer advocates say that banks increase their overdraft fees by debiting larger checks before smaller ones … [to assure] that a larger number of checks bounce … resulting in more fees for the bank. …

    “Regulators … have taken notice of add-on fees, particularly in the hotel industry, which collected nearly $2 billion in such fees last year, up from $550 million in 2002 ….

    “Industries with the lowest complaint success rates include cellphone providers, at 27 percent; insurance companies, at 29 percent; and 20 percent for cable- and satellite-television providers.”

    Quoted under fair use; for complete story and/or copyright info see http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....ees02.html

    You can find information about the book “Gotcha Capitalism” here:

    There’s another book on a related topic here: It’s called “Free Lunch: How the Wealthiest Americans Enrich Themselves at Government Expense (and Stick You with the Bill)”

  17. 21

    The Blatantly Obvious spews:

    Why would anyone ignore an email from Buddypud? Because he always acts like a five year old child stuffed with wingnut talking points, crystal meth, and candy bars?

    Yeah, that could be the reason.

  18. 22

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @19 Two more fucking failures of the free enterprise system: Businesses gouging consumers with hidden charges, and millionaires sponging off taxpayers.

  19. 23

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    I’ll bet if someone had sold Stalin a half-empty box of cereal, he would have been shot or sent to the gulag.

  20. 24

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Charging Comrade Josef 35 bucks for a bad check probably wasn’t a real good idea, either.

  21. 25

    The Blatantly Obvious spews:

    Republicans are the welfare queens that Reagan warned us about. He just neglected to tell us that the welfare queens were the owners of corporations.

  22. 26

    slingshot spews:

    In defiance of the desires of the sorry minions of the American extreme right wing, clipping their toenails and vainly pondering the golden alter, McCain will be led to his sacrificial slaughter in the fall. As fate has destined.

  23. 28

    DustinJames spews:

    Hillary treading UP in the Texas polls again!

    What was a 29-point gap in favor of Hillary Clinton among Hispanics yesterday (61%-32%) has climbed to a 40-point gap for Clinton (67%-27%) after our latest night of interviewing. This is the first good news we’ve seen for Hillary Clinton in the past few days, as there were indications that Barack Obama was beginning to make inroads with Hispanics.

    Hillary Clinton continues to lead among white voters (49% of the sample) by a 49%-42% margin.

    Asked which of six traits is the most important in their vote for a presidential nominee, 25% choose “best understands the problems of people like you,” a slight increase over yesterday. Hillary Clinton leads among these voters 54%-38%, an improvement from 49%-42% yesterday.

    Another group that typically turns out in low numbers is younger voters, specifically 18-29 year olds, but 30-49 year olds as well. Support for these two candidates is strongly correlated with age. Voters under 50, particularly men, support Obama, while those 50 and older, particularly women, support Clinton. While African American turnout will be critical for Obama, he’ll also need to mobilize and turn out the youth vote.

    And on that last topic, the youth vote is historicly highly unreliable. HIGHLY.

    This race looks better for Hillary again.

  24. 29

    DustinJames spews:

    And, in further Obama souring news – The last campaign rally he held in Austin – they were prepping for 10,000 and got…2,000.

    Maybe people are finally understanding what I’ve been saying all along – he is on the wrong side of the fence with his stands on the economy.

    Barack Obama – “31¢ you can believe in.”

  25. 30

    ByeByeGOP spews:

    JohnBoy McCain has flip flopped his way to the nomination – but in the General – those flip flops will come back to haunt him. And his war mongering is popular with far right, batshit crazy chickenhawks – but the American people are four-square against the war. Short version – no matter who we run – we beat JohnBoy in a landslide.

  26. 31

    eric spews:

    Osama obama whats the difference his wife is corrupt in business embezz;omg mil;ions. And he is a tax raising big government horses butt who wont defend israel form war on terror. Who sent patriots to help israel when Hussein was sending scud missles to Israel? Bush. who was getting a blow job from a nice naive jewish girl in the white house clinton Better learn wh o your friends are.even Jesus your Messiah Read Micha 5 2. Old testament read that.

  27. 32

    Politically Incorrect spews:


    I don’t understand why we spend so much fucking time & money “defending” Israel. I don’t give a shit about Israel. They’re big enough to take care of themselves.

    Let’s just close down the Iraqi show, and the Israelis will take care of the Iranians on their own.

  28. 34

    harry poon spews:

    If private interests always offer better and cheaper products, the insurance industry should have no problem with the government offering Americans government-sponsored health insurance.

    All we want is a fair prophet.

  29. 36

    PuddyPrick, The Fact Finding Prognosticator... spews:

    Hey Lefties:

    So I am ignored Busdrivermike? Golly you felt compelled to answer me last week. And it was really weak too. So did some other lefties.

    So much for being ignored.

    Darryl claimed to be a Republican, so I asked a simple question. If he ignores it then intellectual manhood passed him by.

  30. 37

    PuddyPrick, The Fact Finding Prognosticator... spews:

    Lookie here another mouthpiece of the DNC – NPR is caught again

    “Most recently, an adjective got veteran NPR newscaster Jean Cochran into difficulty when she said on Valentine’s Day that President Bush was heading to Africa to visit the “dark continent.””

    ” “I thought that we had wrested that comment along with ‘colored’ and other euphemisms for Africans or Afro-Americans,” wrote one listener, summing up how others felt. “Could you please report my comments to NPR management? I almost drove off the side of the road to start a protest!!!”

    “This is simply an outdated reference as well as being outrageously offensive,” wrote another listener, Karrye Y. Braxton.

    The copy, which had been approved by an editor, was pulled and Cochran agreed to never use the expression again.”

    PuddyStudy: The donkey said words have meaning, yet they can’t seem to implement those thoughts into action.

  31. 38

    Daddy Love spews:


    Yes, words have meaning and the archaic phrase “Dark Continent” means that few or no Europeans knew what was in the interior of Africa until the late ninetheenth century.

    You can make it about race if you want to, and maybe you can be successful baiting some stupid people, but that’s not what “meaning” those words have.

  32. 39

    PuddyPrick, The Fact Finding Prognosticator... spews:

    Daddy Love:

    I thought you were one of the smart 16%ers. I guess I need to change my mind now. Dark Continent? All I need to do is read the bastion of 16%er thought, the Democratic Underground.

    So Daddy Love are you in disagreement with the DU? They are just like most here in their thought patterns.

    Who are the political correct police? Your side of the aisle.
    Who cry fowl over every leetle thing said by us who think right? Your side of the aisle.
    Who does the NPR peeps dote over? Your side of the aisle.

    I would think they would be more “sensitive” in their words. As one DU poster said: “She’s very aware of modern culture and extremely sensitive to any racist or homophobic language. ”

    Anytime we on the right use any term deemed pejorative by you 16%ers, we are fascists, nazis, misogynists, gay bashers, etc.

    Now the shoe is on your feet and you can’t kick it off. Hung by the politicial correctness petard.

    Nuff SAID!

    Waaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaa haaaaa

  33. 40

    PuddyPrick, The Fact Finding Prognosticator... spews:

    DustinJames: Does this look like a candidate in control?

    The Dallas Morning News gets hold of Clinton caucus “training materials,” in which supporters are instructed to fight for procedural control of caucuses.

    The materials say in part, “DO NOT allow the supporter of another candidate to serve in leadership roles.”

    It goes on to say, “If our supporters are outnumbered, ask the Temporary Chair if one of our supporters can serve as the Secretary, in the interest of fairness.

    “The control of the sign-in sheets and the announcement of the delegates allotted to each candidate are the critical functions of the Chair and Secretary. This is why it is so important that Hillary supporters hold these positions.”

    Some of the moments on the ground in Nevada showed how crucial technical control can be, particularly when — there, as expected in Texas — nobody has any idea what the rules are. Really makes you love the caucus process.

    PuddyStudy: Control freaks, that’s what the donkey are.

  34. 41

    Daddy Love spews:

    All the “progress” from the surge is coming undone in the faces of the idiots who pursue and support this insane, illegitmate, disastrous war.

    Casualties are up 30% this month. The Iraqi government has just enraged both Sunnis (who want to solidify their repersenatation) and Shi’ites (the Sadrists expect to be the big winners) by vetoing the bill setting regional elections. The GOP was touting the elections bill as a sign that Iraqi reconciliation (remember? the point of the escalation?)was occurring, but guess what? Not fucking happening. The Awakening Council Sunnis are tired of the US not getting them a larger role in the Shi’ite government that doesn’t trust them and they are now abandoning their military posts (

    So we’re stuck paying $8 billion a month ( and watching our young men die or come home maimed and broken so that the Iraqis can fight it out among themselves as they wait for us to leave. And that’s it.

    Iraqis aren’t “terrorists;” they’re people who would kinda like the fucking army to leave their country. There are no more than a few (maybe a few thousand) adherents of varying degrees of allegiance to the misnamed “Al Qaeda in Iraq” in a nation of 25 million nonQaeda Iraqis. The Shi’ites hate them, the Kurds will not tolerate them, and the Sunnis have turned on them. They’re not a factor in Iraq. We’re fighting the people of Iraq, and that’s a fight we can’t (and shouldn’t) win.

  35. 44

    Daddy Love spews:

    29 DJ

    Gee, I hate to be the one to break it to you, pal…no, that’s wrong. I enjoy it.

    “…his rallies – in dramatic settings, showcasing the rampant enthusiasm of his youthful supporters – are advertisements in themselves, for the pure momentum of his candidacy…small-group settings are often followed by rallies in venues chosen to attract the biggest possible crowds…Even in his foray into Clinton’s South Texas stronghold, Obama opted for a university setting, drawing thousands to the central lawn of the University of Texas-Pan American in Edinburg...The huge crowds validate the idea that Obama is on a roll, and usually generate enthusiastic coverage in the local media.

    I don’t know what you mean by “The last campaign rally he held in Austin – they were prepping for 10,000 and got…2,000,” but in his most recent visit to Austin (2/22) they prepared for 30,000.

    The expected crowd of more than 30,000 would top the 22,000 who attended an Obama rally on Auditorium Shores in Austin last February — but it would come as no surprise given the large turnouts that have greeted in other stops around Texas.

    Even Fox says so…

    An estimated 30,000 people filled the streets of Downtown Austin for presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama’s ‘Stand for Change’ rally Friday night.

    But other than being completely wrong, you’re right on the money.

  36. 45

    Daddy Love spews:

    39 Pud

    I sure never considered you one of the smart ones, because you will latch on to the stupidest and least factual evidence shore up your ridiculous contentions.

    Africa, the Dark Continent. A romantic name for an unknown and underexplored region of the world to the Europeans of the 19th century.

    A 19th century expression previously used to describe Africa, particularly Sub-Saharan Africa. As little was known about the continent’s interior geography, map-makers would often leave this region dark.

    A former name for Africa, so used because its hinterland was largely unknown and therefore mysterious to Europeans until the 19th century. Henry M. Stanley was probably the first to use the term in his 1878 account Through the Dark Continent.

    Citation from The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition copyright ©2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Updated in 2003. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.

    So some idiot in a car thought differently. Um, not exactly something that changes what is. As you say, words have meaning. I have now informed you as to what it is agreed that the meaning of this phrase is. You may disagree, but who cares what you think?

  37. 46

    PuddyPrick, The Fact Finding Prognosticator... spews:

    Daddy Love: You just don’t get it. I could care less about NPR and the Dark Continent comment. I thought it was hilarious.

    I am railing over these continual political correctness conversations and the need by Donkey to foam over the mouth over PC. NPR Ombudsman, Democratic Underground, etc.

    Daddy Love, you are as dense as spent uranium!

  38. 47

    Sempersimper spews:

    All you’re doing is business as usual: acting out to get attention.

    You come continuously and compulsively in here to screech so everybody will notice you.

    Everybody except 4 emotionally challenged wingnuts hoots at you and responds to you with great derision.

    You keep coming back and rep

  39. 50

    PuddyPrick, The Fact Finding Prognosticator... spews:

    No headless@46@47: I point out the stupidity in your positions. In this case political correctness.

    Too preoccupied with racism to comprehend it? Well?

  40. 51

    PuddyPrick, The Fact Finding Prognosticator... spews:

    Why don’t you look in the mirror and talk to harry poon? I hear he’s from AZ and he knows what it’s like to hate black people 24/7.

  41. 52

    Sempersimper spews:

    That you are so fucking stupid that you can’t tell my posts from Lucy’s goes a long way to explaining your other behaviour. And if you find out that you have your head up your ass and that I am not who you say I am, are you going to apologize for calling me a racist?

    Oh, hell yes. Sure you will.


  42. 53

    Sempersimper spews:

    Note about previous:
    With most people that would be “asshole”. Puddy is a special case.

  43. 55

    YLB spews:

    I am railing

    You are spewing like the street corner loon. It’s hilarious.

    Your corrupt, stupid party is going down and you’re doing everything you can to deny that reality.

    Not that reality ever meant much to you.

  44. 56

    PuddyPrick, The Fact Finding Prognosticator... spews:

    Headless@51: Earlier this month in your semper name you admitted it to Marvin and me with pithy commentary. In fact you went into a basket case.

    So don’t insult me with your attitude now.

  45. 57

    PuddyPrick, The Fact Finding Prognosticator... spews:

    Clueless Idiot: Read the DU, some loony stuff there.

  46. 58

    Hannah spews:

    Murray and Cantwell are demanding an “investigation” into the lost tanker deal. Unfortunately I think France will still get the contract. But at least they finally saying something! Hopefully Chicago based Boeing will get Senator Obama to fight also.

  47. 61

    klake spews:

    Folks Al Gore just drops into Seattle and looks what shows up on the coast. Yes a man eating shark looking for fresh meat. Next month they will be showing up near Olympia feeding off the remains of the Democrats after losing the tanker deal with the Air Force. Yes the Democrats in the Northwest believed they could beat the French in shady deals, and even Obama could not pull a rabbit out of a hat for Boeing in Chicago. Maybe that Global Warming is affecting how the party is thinking today? Well the good side of the story you don’t need a fishing license to fish for sharks in Washington yet. But the folks in Olympia are real short on money so that may be short live. Avoir une bonne journée.

  48. 62

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Global Warming Debunkers Pouncing On Cold Weather Are Full Of Shit

    “The world has seen some extraordinary winter conditions … over the past year …. It is no wonder that … political operatives … people who challenge warnings about … global warming have jumped on this ….

    “So what is happening?

    “According to a host of climate experts, … it is mostly good old-fashioned weather, along with a cold kick from the tropical Pacific Ocean … in its La Niña phase ….

    “Many scientists … say the cool spell in no way undermines the enormous body of evidence pointing to a warming world with disrupted weather patterns, less ice and rising seas …. ‘The current downturn is not very unusual,’ said Carl Mears, a scientist … in Santa Rosa, Calif …. He pointed to similar drops in 1988, 1991-92 and 1998, but with a long-term warming trend remaining clear nonetheless. …

    “Michael Schlesinger, an atmospheric scientist at the University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign, said that any focus on the past few months or years as evidence undermining the established theory that accumulating greenhouse gases are making the world warmer was, at best, a waste of time and, at worst, a harmful distraction. …

    “‘Climate skeptics typically take a few small pieces of the puzzle to debunk global warming and ignore the whole picture that the larger science community sees by looking at all the pieces,’ said Ignatius Rigor, a climate scientist at … the University of Washington.”

    Quoted under fair use; for complete story and/or copyright info see http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....ate02.html

  49. 63

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Roger Rabbit Quiz

    Which is more reliable for determining whether global warming is real?

    [ ] 1. Scientific method
    [ ] 2. Political ideology

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: Now I’m going to kick back and watch the rightwing morons go to work on this.

  50. 64

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @57 I guess what it boils down to is whether the Air Force should accept an inferior plane as the backbone of its tanker fleet for the next 40 years in order to keep the jobs in the U.S.

  51. 65

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Boeing blew this deal at many levels, and now the wingnut morons want to blame the natural result of the company’s serial failures on our state’s Democratic senators and congressmen — so typical of the “personal responsibility” crowd.

  52. 67

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @38 But Daddy Love, pudnuts has fallen down the rabbit hole and is now in Wonderland where words mean whatever he wants them to mean.

  53. 68

    klake spews:

    Politically Incorrect says:
    I don’t understand why we spend so much fucking time & money “defending” Israel. I don’t give a shit about Israel. They’re big enough to take care of themselves.
    Let’s just close down the Iraqi show, and the Israelis will take care of the Iranians on their own.
    03/02/2008 at 5:07 am

    Now what college did you say you graduate from? Evergreen College? From your statement you lack any knowledge about the Middle East. Israel can take care of itself only if they receive help from other nations to support their ability to reach their enemies. Without that support they would disappear in a very short time. You under estimate the Arabs and the power they have at their disposal. While you gloat in your juices of ignorance other folks die from that lack of support. I hope you sleep well at night knowing how many people disappeared due to your ignorance.

  54. 69

    DustinJames spews:

    @ 40 – Well it makes sense to me – at my Caucus, there were HUGE Obama banners all over the gymnasium, and Obama campaign placards on both sides of the hallway leading to our “split” rooms. And guess what was posted all around our split rooms too?

    Both my precicnt chair and my district chair were wearing Obama ’08 shirts, and they got to do nearly all the talking.

    No one told me I could come early to the school and spam the public institution with all of my candidate’s banners. The instructions that I read on the precinct website said the doors opened at 12:30.

    And when I arrived at 12:30, everything was “OBAMA”. I’m sure it helped sway the Undecided who signed in to our caucus, who eventually when to the Obama camp, regardless of the terrible speech given about that candidate.

    “Well, he’s won states like Idaho, and Utah, and uh, I think that because he’s winning a lot of states, that’s why you should support him.”

    That seriously was nearly word for word from the only speaker in the pro-Obama side.

    So why not fight for caucus leadership? If it helps sway, then it makes sense to me. And yes, it does sound organized, finally.

  55. 70

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    The Busheviks’ Alice-In-Wonderland Justice

    “Man Acquitted in Terror Case Faces Deportation

    “By Peter Whoriskey
    “Washington Post Staff Writer
    “Sunday, March 2, 2008; Page A03

    “MIAMI — The case … stymied jurors … they deadlocked on nearly all of the charges regarding [a] purported plot … to blow up the Sears Tower in Chicago. The one thing jurors could agree upon … was that one of the men, Lyglenson Lemorin, 33, was not guilty. …

    “Yet … Lemorin remains incarcerated, and U.S. immigration officials are … asking an administrative judge to order his deportation based on the same charges that the jury dismissed.

    “The government’s effort to punish Lemorin despite the acquittal is drawing fire … as an attempt to seek retribution in a high-profile case that prosecutors lost after a fair trial. …

    “Lemorin … came here as a child and is a permanent legal resident of the United States. … ‘He’s no more a Haitian than the Good Humor man,’ said Charles Kuck, a lawyer representing Lemorin in immigration court.”

    Quoted under fair use; for complete story and/or copyright info see

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: Down the rabbit hole again … the incompetent Bushies have lost nearly every terrorism prosecution they’ve instigated, mainly because the charges typically are based on either the rightwing guilt-by-association mentality or sheer incompetence — and in this case they’re hell-bent on getting even with a defendant who made them look foolish by being innocent.

  56. 71

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @68 If DustinJames is attending Democratic caucuses that can mean only 2 things: The Republicans are down to their last half-dozen wingnuts and McCain will get less than 1% of the popular vote.

  57. 72

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    The number of wingnuts pretending to be independents or even Democrats are swelling from a wave into a tsunami.

  58. 74

    tiny earl spews:

    sempersimper, I am not. To the land of wrongness you have got. So wipe your nose of that green snot.

  59. 75

    ByeByeGOP spews:

    Notice how little time the right wingers spend actually discussing THEIR candidate? If all I had going for me was John Boy – well, I guess I’d change the subject too.

  60. 76

    Daddy Love spews:

    46 Pud

    When conservatives are all fighting one another to prove who is the most “conservative,” the most anti-immigrant, the most plutocratic, the most dedicated to breaching the wall of separation between church and state, and when we see that anyone who diverges from the sacred positions of conservative dogma is castigated by everyone from radio hosts and conservative pundits to conservative publications and public officials, it’s funny to hear you talk about “political correctness.” No one is as intolerant of free thought than the conservatives. And it has always been thus.

  61. 77

    I-Burn spews:

    @75 Intolerant of free thought? It isn’t left-wingers being shouted down at college campuses all over the country, now is it? It isn’t left-wingers being told that the debate over the cause of global warming is over, now is it? It isn’t left-wingers that…

    I would freakin’ DARE you to walk down the ave in the U-District carrying a sign supporting Republicans. Let’s see how goddamned tolerant your side is. Think you’d make it a block even without being accosted? Hell no you wouldn’t, and you know it! On the other hand, I could do the obverse in the most conservative area in the country and wouldn’t have to worry about my safety.

    Don’t even bother with “conservative dogma” DL, since you lefties are the most doctrinaire, and dogmatic folks around – HA is ample proof of that!

  62. 78

    DustinJames spews:

    Hey Roger – Fuck off.

    I’m a centrist democrat, not from the far left side of the democratic party. 52% of registered democrats are voting for Hillary Clinton. The other candidate: 48% of democrats plus republicans who want Obama to advance so Republicans can play Dukakis with him in the general election.

    At one point, I see you were rooting for Hillary as well, maybe you’re just like the other sheep who sway to whatever candidate whenever way the wind blows, but I’m not.

    She’s down, not out, and I’ll be seeing all that want to show up at Drinking Liberally to watch the results roll in with the rest of the crowd.

    He’s wrong on not capping credit card interest.

    He’s wrong on mortgage foreclosure protection.

    He’s wrong on wanting to continue to add to the deficit $300 billion per year of Chinese borrowed money to pay for his spending programs.

    He’s wrong on opposing a cap on Adjustable Rate Mortgages.

    The economy is the most important issue to me, something Barack is proving he’s ignorant on, and McCain professes to know nothing about.

    Hillary is the only candidate that is right on the issues of the economy, and that’s why she’s my candidate.

  63. 79

    klake spews:

    DustinJames says:

    Hey Roger – Fuck off.

    I’m a centrist democrat, not from the far left side of the democratic party. 52% of registered democrats are voting for Hillary Clinton. The other candidate: 48% of democrats plus republicans who want Obama to advance so Republicans can play Dukakis with him in the general election.

    Dustin James good for you and you might be the few smart Democrats and don’t embrace the Socialist Democrats plank.

  64. 80

    ByeByeGOP spews:

    The republicans are so bad off that they come here and pretend to be Dems. Things must be tough in GOP land.

  65. 83

    PuddyPrick, The Fact Finding Prognosticator... spews:

    Of course, no leftist pinbrain will repudiate these comments by the man-hater herself Gloria Steinem:

    PuddyStudy: Yes Gloria we need someone like you to protect us. Your bellicose voice, your withering ugly looks will protect us from hurt, harm, and danger! We don’t need to give Gloria a gun, she’ll stare them down.

    At least John McCain is trained to kill the enemy Gloria. And the enemy will slit your ugly throat in a heartbeat because you won’t wear the burqa coming to your closet soon enough.

  66. 85

    PuddyPrick, The Fact Finding Prognosticator... spews:

    Only a lib can say this and get away with it.

    Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones (D-OH): “Well, you know what, the Obama campaign is trying to put that noose on her neck. But the reality is that Senator Clinton does not wear, uh, NAFTA.”

    If we whom think right said this…

  67. 86

    PuddyPrick, The Fact Finding Prognosticator... spews:

    Wait a minute… that was on Fox News. So she really didn’t say that per the 16%ers here.

  68. 87

    DustinJames spews:

    @ 84 – no, you need to be more clear cut, only a black liberal could say that, if it was a white liberal, there would be denouncements demands from all over the place.

    But, noose and lynch are like that other word you can’t use with black people (and believe me, I don’t like that word either).

    But, perfectly a-ok for black people to say them. That would be the Obama campaign again, playing that race card.

  69. 89

    PuddyPrick, The Fact Finding Prognosticator... spews:

    DustinJames: Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones is on “your” side. She likes the Cliton shit.

  70. 91

    DustinJames spews:

    I know she’s on “my” side, I’m just saying, the Obama campaign plays the race card big time.

  71. 92

    Rob & Rabbit/ Scratching Their Fleas/ K-I-S-S-I-N-G spews:

    A neocon economist said: “The Achilles heel of socialism was the inability to link the socialist goal with the provision of incentives for efficient labor and the encouragement of initiative on the part of individuals. It became clear in practice that a market provides such incentives best of all.” Who was the neocon economist?

    [] A. Uncle Milton Friedman
    [] B. Ludwig von Mises
    [] C. Friedrich Hayek
    [] D. Ronald Reagan (Eureka College economist)
    [] E. Sarah Jeglum (Dub Daily editor, whose paper has twice identified ‘Freakonomics’ as a novel)

  72. 93

    Rob & Rabbit/ Scratching Their Fleas/ K-I-S-S-I-N-G spews:

    Or was it …

    [] F. Former neo-socialist David Goldstein

  73. 94

    Black to the Future, Rough Draft, Part 1 spews:

    The torch was passed to a new generation.

    The new president, new and young, was tall, handsome, dark, solemn. He stood behind the inaugural lectern and looked at a nation that looked to him for change, for a hopeful awakening from our long national nightmare.

    The nation had come to town. Saggers from the street stood beside masters of the universe and their trophy men. Mini-van moms from the homeland heartland stood beside masters of the universe and their trophy women.

    Last night’s scrim of snow, crisp and even, was pounded into powder and slush by Wal-Mart shoes, Wal-Mart sweatshop snowboots, sexy boots with sharp heels, excellent sneaks from the street, darling rhinestone pumps, Converse Chuck Taylors from K-Mart, Ermenegildo wingtips and John Lobb loafers from Bergdorf’s, a promiscuous fashion parade that reminded Russert of Andrew Jackson’s 1829 rabble inauguration when democracy’s boots smeared mud on dainty chairs.

    The old generation, empowered by a corrupt bargain to sleepwalk through its West Wing quagmire until one minute before noon, had faded away before this cold bright final day of its downfall began. “Yesterday,” said Odormann, “Bush crawled back to Crawford. The swaggering smirking cowboy bully of eight years ago who stole the election and who stole America’s dignity and treasure for a no-win war against nothing didn’t have the dignity, or even the courtesy or courage, to stay in town and see the second coming of redemption. Think about it: for eight years we were led by a religious fanatic who seized power in a Supreme Court coup but who didn’t have the stones to stick around one more day for the last-mile ride down Pennsylvania Avenue into the promised land. Well, Mr. Ex-president, Mr. Coward-in-Chief, how’s this for religious epiphany: Thank God it’s not too late. Thank God you’re gone.”

    NBC and NPR reported that the old vice president was in a location so secret and undisclosed that, with luck, he would not be found until indictments for high crimes and misdemeanors were served with his red meat lunch. He’s fibrillating somewhere, suggested Morning Edition. He’s drunk somewhere, said Air America, probably with Bush. They’re drunk, glaring at each other, greasing their guns, grabbing their birdshot.

    And the mean old man from Arizona was maybe in Arizona where old Republicans go to die. Perhaps, reported the Times on page six, he’s in swank southwest rehab where rich Republicans dry out from Oxycontin while poor black children dry out and die out in jail. The howler at MSNBC said that Arizona’s old senator, swept away by the landslide, had stroked out! Maybe suicide! Kos said he’d gone to ground in northern Idaho with another swept-away senator who was so not gay. Odormann said the mean old man, who was attracted to young lobbyists, was taking over erectile Bob Dole’s Viagra account: “One old has-been right-wing warmonger pumps up another. Screw ‘em.”

    They, tawdry old men, were the dead past. He, the solemn young man surrounded by brittle January sunlight, was the future. He had taken the oath from Chief Justice Plame, using first a Bible opened at random and held by his wife, and then a Koran, opened at Surah 9:12 and held in the white-gloved hands of his pastor from Chicago.

    He had shielded Amiri Baraka’s notes from the new day’s sun-and-snow glare as he read an inaugural poem.

    Then he took Baraka’s place. Bareheaded, wearing a simple suit in the January chill, he looked to his nation as his nation looked to him. He looked to thousands and tens of thousands of faces before him and to the side. He saw that the daughter of the Speaker of the House, far down the line, was enthralled, enraptured, pale. He reached behind the lectern for a bottle of Evian and quietly directed Vice President Kucinich, newly sworn and standing behind him, to aide a young pale woman in need.

    He stepped slightly to the side, deliberate and dignified, when a January breath of smoke, a cloud no bigger than a man’s hand, puffed from the lectern, when the Vice President’s spry wiry spouse came forward, knelt, tweaked a loose wire and, like a supplicant to the Sun King, backed back into line.

    Deliberate, dignified, each news network replayed the moment and played the mystic chords of memory. Forty-eight years ago to the minute, said each news reader almost in awed unison, another young brave bareheaded leader had shielded a poet from the glare, had been a profile in courage when the world’s First Lectern seemed for a moment to burn. Even Fox connected dots from now to then. Even Drudge soon had a January 1961 clip from YouTube’s vault to make clear a coincidence that seemed too powerful or poignant to be coincidence.

    Uncharacteristically hushed, Odormann NBC spoke of other mystic cords that tied the heart: What if this accident of sun and smoke had been evocative of the earlier Camelot’s end, not its beginning? What if haters had succeeded in their threats to end another brief shining moment in America’s bleak story, this time as it began? What if, instead of being January 1961 once more, this had been November 1963 once more?

    “And there’s something else,” said Odormann. “I hope you didn’t hear it, but I think you need to hear about it. Moments ago the crypto-Nazi gasbag at the Ex-lax In Broadcasting Network spewed his two-minutes hate that have gone on for twenty years too long. The crypto-Nazi fat cat was troubled, ladies and gentlemen, troubled that the Chief Justice slid past our President’s middle name that celebrates the Religion of Peace. Then, at his golden microphone, oblivious to irony and decency and with half his Rove tied behind his back, the fattest of fat cats was troubled, troubled that our new President honored America’s diversity in our hour of maximum danger by honoring the Koran and the Religion of Peace.”

    “For too long,” said Odormann, “crypto-Christians and neocons and right-wing neoconvicts have turned America against itself. Their ruins surround us. They’ve conserved nothing, ruined everything. They have at long last no sense of decency. They have only their obscene hatreds while you and I, ladies and gentlemen, are moving on. But not before they know that we will not let them end our dreams again. They took Kennedy and Kennedy and King. This time we will not let them hurt us. Never again will they steal and kill our dreams. Never again.”

    But then the nightmare faded and the future began.

    The President was president at last. January sunlight refracted his glow and was filled with warmth. Light shone ’round about him and brought peace and rest to the hopeless hopeful multitude before him. A restive nation, poised on the knife’s edge of disaster, had looked to him for a restorative sign, for a rainbow sign, and there it was. Warmth, light, soft explosions of color, the receding of our long national winter.

    He smiled, shyly at first, then as broadly and beautifully as the day. He began.

    “Brothers and sisters.” Palms resting lightly beside the text of his speech. Then arms raised slowly, palms down, then, slowly, palms up in benediction.

    Grown men wept. Grown men in women’s shoes and dresses fainted. The nation seemed to shudder, transfixed and transfigured.