by Darryl, 11/30/2007, 5:57 PM

Today I stumbled across this recent Field Poll that shows Californians growing more and more…um…excited about mail-in voting.

ElectileFunction

Notable finding: “Permanent mail ballot registrants include more registered Republicans than are found in the overall electorate.”

26 Responses to “Mail’s importance to electile function in California”

1. christmasghost spews:

wow….that’s clever. dirty word and image play. what are you? six?
it won’t ever happen here in california though…good try.
and BTW, aren’t you being just a wee bit obvious? i mean, what does it really matter to you HOW people vote unless of course you have a not-so-hidden agenda, right?
isn’t it more important that people DO vote and that they are informed voters? oh, and how can i forget, that THEIR VOTES GET COUNTED ONLY ONCE…but they do get counted?
gawd….you proglodytes are SO OBVIOUS……..
i think america…and especially california, are so over the 60′s retreads and the whole useful idiot thing. i mean, when you libs get slammed in an election by ,possibly, the least informed electorate in the country, washington state….how far behind can extinction be? really?

2. Darryl spews:

Man, Christmasghost…you sure get testy over a little poll!

3. Roger Rabbit spews:

@1 Drinking early this holiday season?

4. Aaron spews:

xmasfunk seems to have an issue. Maybe there’s something out of proportion that comes down to an issue of size, girth, or heft that is bothersome. It is hard to tell which way the issue goes. Tough that, but entirely deserved.

5. christmasghost spews:

2 through 4…..need i say more?
especially #4….wow……
if you guys [even when 'just kidding'] can’t be a little more adult…then who really is going to take you seriously?

6. Darryl spews:

“if you guys [even when ‘just kidding’] can’t be a little more adult…then who really is going to take you seriously?”

Ummm…apparently you are reading and responding.

Something’s really eatin’ at you, huh Ghost?

7. Roger Rabbit spews:

Ghost, tell us what your hot button is, so we can push it some more.

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8. Roger Rabbit spews:

Is the fact Rossi’s minions miscalculated how many votes they had to steal still eating you?

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9. Roger Rabbit spews:

It’s pretty obvious what went down in 2004 — there were literally hundreds of complaints from Snohomish County voters about touch-screen voting machines changing their “Gregoire” votes into “Rossi” votes.

For the 2004 election, Washington had touch-screen machines in only 2 counties, Snohomish and Yakima, and Yakima County is pretty strongly Republican to begin with. Snohomish County, on the other hand, is a swing county that leans, if anything, Democratic because there’s lots of bluecollars there. Snohomish County was the only place they could go to use rigged electronic voting machines to change Democratic votes into Rossi votes. And that’s where they went to do it.

I won’t reiterate the allegations of the lawsuit against Snohomish County and Sequoia Voting Systems here. Those have been aired many times in those forum. A brief summary will suffice: Dozens of horror stories came out of Snohomish County from hundreds of voters, plus the county’s official precinct-by-precinct voting totals showed many strange anomalies — so much so that no reasonable person could conclude that election tampering didn’t happen there. It did, and on a wholesale scale.

But here’s the tricky thing about stealing an election. You don’t want it to be obvious. The idea is to steal no more votes than you need to. A 52% to 48% result in favor of your candidate is much less likely to attract scrutiny than a 70% to 30% result (in a county that normally votes close to 50-50). So, you calculate how many votes your candidate needs, and steal that many plus a little extra for insurance.

The Republicans miscalculated in 2004: They didn’t steal quite enough votes in Snohomish County, and their guy lost. On a national scale, it happened again in 2006: The fact the Democrats won doesn’t mean there weren’t rigged voting machines and other election-cheating by the Republicans going on. There was. But once again, they miscalculated the size of the vote against them, and underestimated how many votes they had to flip inside the black boxes or manufacture out of thin air.

Not too surprising, when you consider they’re incompetent at everything else, too.

10. Roger Rabbit spews:

in this forum

11. Apollo spews:

A study of portions of Kern County California a few years ago showed that some 30% of democrat registrations were phoney. One democrat, who was asked why he was registered four times actually admitted “If we didn’t cheat we wouldn’t win.”

12. K spews:

@11

provide a citation

13. Apollo spews:

I didn’t read this online. It was photocopied and mailed to me by my sister, who lives in CA. I don’t know where a copy could be located at this time, but it’s certainly not anything I’d lie about having read. But what was amazing was what people admitted to when asked why they’d voted multiple times. This was in about ’03 or early ’04. Right then and there I began to wonder what nasty stuff we’d learn about up here in WA. All I’d heard was that there wasn’t much of that kind of stuff here. I didn’t believe it. As it turns out, I was right–as the ’04 mess unfurled.

14. Roger Rabbit spews:

@13 “I didn’t read this online. It was photocopied and mailed to me by my sister, who lives in CA.”

And she got it from her boyfriend’s cousin’s boss’s trained monkey.

15. Roger Rabbit spews:

@13 “it’s certainly not anything I’d lie about having read”

WOOOOHEEEEEHAAAAAHAR HO HE HOO HA HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR !!!!!

Hey, if you’re lookin’ for a faith-based website, this ain’t it. We want proof.

16. proud leftist spews:

Apollo: “It was photocopied and mailed to me by my sister, who lives in CA. I don’t know where a copy could be located at this time, but it’s certainly not anything I’d lie about having read.”

You are painfully stupid. Because something was photocopied you believe it? I have relatives in California, too. They could send me tangible items indicating that you need to see a therapist. Do you? I think so.

17. Politically Incorrect spews:

Apollo,

You need to provide a link. These guys will only believe something if they can click on a hyperlink that takes them to some page on a server somewhere. I doubt anybody would go to a good library to look-up a reference to a printed page in a book or newspaper on microfische. It’s just too much trouble to leave the house.

18. proud leftist spews:

Incorrect @ 17
Ally yourself with Apollo. Ally yourself with idiocy. Do you feel better about yourself when you take the side of someone incapable of thinking? I wish I could be so simple.

19. Politically Incorrect spews:

I didn’t take his side, fuckhead.

20. christmasghost spews:

apollo…the democrats are famous for saying “vote early and often”……..
and these useful idiots on here know that. they are some of the people saying it.

21. Apollo spews:

Too bad these guys would make up something, even though I wouldn’t. I didn’t have much trouble believing all the phoney registrations in Kern County. What was amazing was the democrats who would actually talk about the fact that they voted illegally. The voter rolls definitely need to be cleaned up there. And they proved to need to be cleaned up here, as well.

22. Bad Bob spews:

#9
“It’s pretty obvious what went down in 2004 — there were literally hundreds of complaints from Snohomish County voters about touch-screen voting machines changing their “Gregoire” votes into “Rossi” votes.”

And yet…. King County, after 3 re-counts, managed to overcome their deficit….

I’m gonna need a link to THAT story, Rog. I’m a voter in SnoCo, and if that had happened, these “voters” needed to say something to the poll workers, and then filled out a paper ballot. Show their I.D. and fill out the paper. NO-ONE shows I.D. with the mail in ballots. And nobody sees security issues with this???

23. Jane Balough's Dog spews:

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The only way to have an honest election is to keep democrats as far away from counting and handling ballots as possible. Where there are democrats, there is voter fraud.

24. Jane Balough's Dog spews:

Show their I.D. and fill out the paper. NO-ONE shows I.D. with the mail in ballots. And nobody sees security issues with this???

Remember Bob, this is a party who is against forcing people to carry ID to the polls but has no problem forcing people to memorize/write a nine digit number on a tax return every year. Dems are frauds. hehehe

25. Jane Balough's Dog spews:

Vote by mail is just another scheme to stuff the ballots box with more fraudulent democrat votes. You can’t blame them, they sure can’t win with their ideas. hehehehe

26. Jane Balough's Dog spews:

And yet…. King County, after 3 re-counts, managed to overcome their deficit….

It is amazing what a found bag of ballots can do to turn an election. heehehehe