Friday Night Multimedia Extravaganza!

Olympic GOLD:

Mark Fiore: ALEC Rock:

Voter Disenfranchisement:

Obama: Weekly Address.

Roy Zimmerman: Vote Republican, Maryland edition.

Guns and Violence:

Thom with Good, Bad, and Very, Very Ugly.

Roy Zimmerman: Beer Party Anthem for patriots.

Context Matters:

Alyona’s Tool Time Award: Bachmann on her witch hunt.

White House: West Wing Week.

Homophobic Food:

Thom with some Good, Bad, and Very, Very Ugly.

Zina Sanders: Michele Bachman’s Christian Crusades:

Roy Zimmerman: Vote Republican Indiana edition.

Jon fingers some assholes.

More Mitt:

Roy Zimmerman: Vote Republican, Kentucy edition.

Last week’s Friday Night Multimedia Extravaganza can be found here.

Comments

  1. 2

    Liberal Scientist is a a dirty fucking hippie spews:

    How does Romney maintain any credibility

    …he’s white, and rich, and not Barack Hussein Obama.

  2. 3

    Liberal Scientist is a a dirty fucking hippie spews:

    I’m with Krugman:

    instead of soaring, U.S. borrowing costs have fallen to their lowest level in the nation’s history

    and…

    So investors are, in a sense, offering governments free money for the next 10 years; in fact, they’re willing to pay governments a modest fee for keeping their wealth safe.

    and…

    You don’t even have to make a Keynesian argument about jobs to see that. All you have to do is note that when money is cheap, that’s a good time to invest. And both education and infrastructure are investments in America’s future; we’ll eventually pay a large and completely gratuitous price for the way they’re being savaged.

    That said, you should be a Keynesian, too. The experience of the past few years — above all, the spectacular failure of austerity policies in Europe — has been a dramatic demonstration of Keynes’s basic point: slashing spending in a depressed economy depresses that economy further.

    Our policies are INSANE, or at least overly responsive to fools like our trolls who squeal constantly about ‘Obama’s $16 Trillion Debt!!1!11′

    There is a long-term debt issue, having to do with health care (single-payer, anyone?) and the Bush tax cuts and wars. However, in the short term, we need to SPEND like all get out – put people to work building those capital investments – schools, high-speed rail, windfarms, deferred maintenance, teachers, libraries – stuff that will pay benefits for decades.

    We need the self-serving debt princesses like ev and Max and whomever else to please STFU and let us fix the economy like we know how to do.

  3. 4

    red hiney monkey spews:

    We have to remember: Conservatives the world ’round are trying to exacerbate the financial problems, not solve them.

  4. 5

    Steve spews:

    Florida Republican Jim Greer,

    In the deposition, released to the press yesterday, Greer mentioned a December 2009 meeting with party officials. “I was upset because the political consultants and staff were talking about voter suppression and keeping blacks from voting,” he said, according to the Tampa Bay Times. He also said party officials discussed how “minority outreach programs were not fit for the Republican Party,” according to the AP.

    Not exactly news, as we’ve known for a long time that racists like Bob detest the thought of blacks being allowed to vote.

  5. 6

    Steve spews:

    Get a load of all the dictatorial orders issued by Michigan’s Republican Caesar, Rick Snyder and Detoit’s unelected Emergency Manager, a man appointed by Snyder.

    http://detroitk12.org/admin/em.....er/orders/

    No big deal. It’s just another million Americans added to the rolls of those who used to be free.

    Elect Republicans and you can blow a goodbye kiss to local and state representative government elected by the people.

  6. 7

    spews:

    Willard’s made such an ass of himself across the pond, it’s hard to see him recovering. Only a fool would vote for this guy.

  7. 8

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @7 Yeah, his unsolicited and unwanted expertise on organizing Olympic Games has forced him to flip-flop again. Mittster may be a hell of a community organizer, but he doesn’t know squat about foreign relations or diplomacy. Next thing you know, he’ll criticize Obama for killing Osama bin Laden and apologize to Al Qaeda.

  8. 9

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Mass Shootings Of The Day (TM)

    “Three people were shot dead Friday night in rural Pennsylvania … and the suspect was … arrested after fleeing with his four-year-old daughter. One of the dead might be the child’s mother.”

    http://tinyurl.com/bsomxhb

    “A man suspected of shooting an Indiana police officer died in a shootout, police said early Saturday. K-9 Officer Matt Fox of Fortville, Indiana, was trying to perform a traffic stop on a male driver who refused to stop, police said ….

    “The incident follows a shooting in the Indiana town of Pendleton on Thursday, in which a bystander was killed and two police officers wounded. A police dog was also killed, and the suspected gunman was found dead … possibly by a self-inflicted gunshot.”

    http://tinyurl.com/bs9ge3w

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: Okay, so these aren’t true “mass shootings” of the Colorado variety, just a routine domestic and a couple of garden-variety law enforcement confrontations. But that’s still a lot of loose lead flying around. How long will SCOTUS wait before reintrepeting the Constitution again to mean the Second Amendment right to “keep and bear arms” doesn’t necessarily include everybody? How about if we just include organized, trained, and supervised state-sponsored militias and let it go at that? Everybody else has to get a training certificate, pass a competency test, and get a license?

  9. 10

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @3 What we DON’T need are more publicly-financed sports palaces, especially in locations where they disrupt the working economy.

  10. 11

    Liberal Scientist is a Dirty Fucking Hippie spews:

    What we DON’T need are more publicly-financed sports palaces

    Indeed.
    My suggestion was to borrow to buy/build capital investments – things that pay back – transportation infrastructure, schools, R+D, rebuild electrical grid and clean generating facilities – NOT sports palaces for Mitt’s friends the team owners to make more $$$ with.

  11. 12

    ev spews:

    It’s amusing to watch you assholes try to out intellectualize each other with a bunch of irrelevant bullshit.
    RealClear (poll of polls) shows Obama’s approval at 47.1 today. On 7/28/04, George Bush was at 48.8.
    http://www.realclearpolitics.c.....roval.html

    With all the money and attack ads, it appears Team Obama is in big trouble. The Republican VP nominee will be Marco Rubio and it will be announced at the Republican Convention.
    Let’s see where things are say 2 weeks after that. People care about the economy & job opportunities.
    They despise YOU DIDN’T BUILD THAT!
    In the meantime, continue your meaningless blather in the echo chamber.

  12. 13

    czechsaaz spews:

    @12

    eh…good luck with that.

    A few nuggets from the new WSJ poll taken before Willard’s European Disaster

    Favorability/un

    Obama 49/45
    Willard 35/40
    Democratic Party 40/40
    Republican Party 34/43

    Overall Obama 49%, Willard 43%
    preference for party to control Congress
    Dems 46%, Rep 45%

    And lying about what Obama said is gonna turn it around?

  13. 14

    eastsider spews:

    Like my name discloses;
    here’s a post to a Yakima Herald-Republic
    online article:(another right wing extemist;unfortunately Nick was a former police officer.
    Nick Hughes · Top Commenter
    “….and other incidents when force was used against minority suspects.”

    Are they saying that force has been used against ONLY minority suspects? How can that be true, unless more minorities are committing crimes than Caucasians. Of course, THAT would be true, here at least. I guess the cops will only be allowed to use force to protect themselves against whites. That makes sense to me. Yet ANOTHER “Progressive” move to turn our country into a liberal nightmare of “Hug a thug” programs and policies.

    Be ready people, to defend YOURSELVES, because the police aren’t going to be able to if this keeps up.

  14. 16

    Steve spews:

    @12 I’m a little curious about something, Ev. Do you drool as you peck away at the keyboard? It’s just that I have this mental picture of you when I read your comments. I see you with one finger up your nose, one finger on the keyboard, and you’re drooling. On the keyboard. Yuck. Tell me it isn’t so.

  15. 17

    Steve spews:

    @14 Jesus H. Christ! WTF are you talking about? Gawd, just what we need, another incoherent racist troll.

    I take it that you want cops to shoot homeless injuns, maybe shoot and kill some of those damned spics and niggers too, or is it Democrats you want shot? You’re really not being very clear here, guy.

    Here’s a clue, fucktard. You’re just another damned racist, hate-filled, babbling, right-wing idiot. We have enough of those here already, Bub. Go away.

  16. 18

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @12 You must feel pretty insecure about R-Money’s chances, because you keep pumping him up and dissing Obama’s polls. You don’t see us doing that. We don’t have to.

  17. 19

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @14 Good grief. God went to a lot of wasted effort to create your brain, given what you do with it.

  18. 20

    Puddybud spews:

    A few nuggets from the new WSJ poll taken before Willard’s European Disaster

    Over polled DUMMOCRAPTS by 12%. Even some DUMMOCRAPTS have written off that poll!

    Yes, a really useful poll there checksez creep!

  19. 24

    Puddybud spews:

    Now why did this miss the Friday Night Dummy Pages?

    The CIA considers Israel its No. 1 counterintelligence threat in the agency’s Near East Division, the group that oversees spying across the Middle East, according to current and former officials.

    Only in Obummerville!

  20. 28

    czechsaaz spews:

    @20

    Same poll, somewhat or strongly liberal 24%. Somewhat or strongly conservative, 39%.

    I’ll take ‘grasping at straws for $1000, Alex.’

  21. 29

    Michael spews:

    Wow, this is insane. I guess I should expect the insane since I’m trolling righty Youtube comments, but dang.

    If you sit home waiting your turn you deserve to have your gun taken from your cold dead hands.
    The Founders didn’t wait for the Brits to knock down their doors. They gathered at the green and stood up like men and they killed government employees all the way back to Boston.
    What will you do when it’s time to hunt NWO hacks, republicrats and commies(“Liberals” and ‘progressives’)?
    http://www.youtube.com/comment.....4VAwGMmW8U

  22. 30

    Puddybud spews:

    Fact – Poll values 46% DUMMOCRAPT 34% Republican

    The Prosecution Rests Your Honor! Can you say CHECKMATE? The real poll documentation vs cherry picking by checksez!

    C H E C K M A T E!

  23. 32

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @29 Amazingly, those neo-nazi cocksuckers actually think they’re patriots. A lot of people in my father’s generation died to keep them from taking over the world.

  24. 33

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @30 Keep telling yourself your flip-flopper is gonna win, pudnutz. Hope — even irrational hope — makes you feel like you have a reason to live.

  25. 34

    ev spews:

    czech you idiot.
    Even the Democrats said the NBC/WSJ was skewed.
    Czeck this out dumbass..
    http://hotair.com/archives/201.....ad-sample/

    28. czechsaaz spews:
    @20

    Same poll, somewhat or strongly liberal 24%. Somewhat or strongly conservative,

    39%.

    That’s not what it says at all you idiot!!
    No wonder the Country is going bankrupt with progressive morons who can’t add running things.

  26. 35

    Steve spews:

    “republicrats and commies(“Liberals” and ‘progressives’)”

    That’s too weird for words.

  27. 36

    Steve spews:

    @34 Does it give you headaches to be so fucking stupid, Ev? I bet it does. Yeah, it’s gotta really hurt your head to be so fucking stupid. I know how you could end the pain. So do you. Do you ever think about it, Ev? I bet you do. But I’d like you to try thinking of it this way. It’s the one thing you could do, Ev, that would truly make this a better world.

  28. 37

    Michael spews:

    @32, 35

    He’s talking about going on a killing spree, killing liberals and not one person on that site is telling him to STFU.

  29. 39

    spews:

    The Romney campaign doesn’t seem to understand a fundamental fact about the American electorate: Americans don’t hate rich guys, Americans hate liars.

    http://atlantablackstar.com/20.....-like-him/

    LMAO!!! Rujax and I were really onto to something when we suggested that Puddybud should run for President..

    Would have been the best thing ever to happen to the Dems! The fiend makes Willard look like an amateur.

  30. 41

    Steve spews:

    @38 David Koch also funded a PBS show on NOVA, “Who wrote the Bible?”, that made the case that King David was no more than a chieftain of some mid-east cowtown. God and Moses didn’t write the Books of Moses. It was different groups of scribes hundreds of years later. I’m surprised the teabagging wingnuts don’t hate the Koch brothers more than they do liberals. It’s so obvious that they’re playing the teabaggers for chumps.

    You wingnuts are being played and you don’t even know it. That’s sad. For our nation, that is.

  31. 42

    Steve spews:

    @39 One of the comments,

    “I see a TON of anti-Obama sentiment coming from the Republicans, but there’s a distinct lack of support for Mitt. I have yet to have one of them tell me why I should vote for him.”

    We have that problem as well. We hear no end of the Obama hate, but not one good word about their own candidate. Not one. If nothing else, that is truly bizarre. I’ve never seen that in my lifetime. I’ve never heard of such a thing at this level of politics. I suspect we’re breaking new ground and that, as a country, were in a space we’ve never been before.

    Serial Bob has probably had six weeks or so to answer Lib Sci’s question asking him to name five reasons why a Romney presidency would be good for America. You’d think Bob would throw out a few reasons, if only to try to get Lib Sci to can it. But he’s been beaten with this question every damned time he shows up and he still can’t articulate even one single reason for a Romney presidency. But he can spew the Obama hate with the best of them. Then again, he should. After all, he’s a fucking racist asswipe.

  32. 43

    Puddybud spews:

    Atlanta Black Star HA’s databaze hemorrhoid ylb? You meam you scanned the DUMMOCRAPTIC Underground and then tried to show you visit black music sites based in the south.

    You don’t fool Puddy.

  33. 45

    czechsaaz spews:

    @30

    You’re aware that in 2011, Pew found 46% of American’s identified as Demcrats? And just this month, Rasmussen, the pollster Republicans love, pegged 35.4% of Americans self identified as Republicans.

    WSj sample of 46-34 is damn close. What was that about Checkmate? Would you like links or can you Google…er…Bing, this being Seattle?

  34. 47

    Puddybud spews:

    Most Muslim Americans (70%) either identify as Democrats (46%) or lean toward the Democratic Party (24%); just 11% identify with the Republican Party or lean toward the GOP.

    Oh you mean this Pew Study?

  35. 48

    Liberal Scientist is a slut spews:

    I think I would kill myself if I were as stupid, and as irrelevant, as puddles.

    That’s all.

  36. 51

    Puddybud spews:

    Lib da schmuck appeared… as always, nothing significant was added…

    Typical so typical!

    I think I would kill myself

    Don’t think… go on do it! See ya!

  37. 52

    Gman spews:

    The Republicans here seem so certain that Romney is going to win. How can they be so certain? They deny Global Warming but yet so certain about this idiot becoming President. One can only wait till it happens and laugh after they get more of a bad thing compared to the Monkey W Bush.

  38. 53

    Czechsaaz spews:

    Well since no one else noticed @24

    Gee Puddy, does the name Jonathan Pollard mean anything to you. After he was caught and convicted of selling U.S. classified information to Israel, the Israeli government issued a directive to cease all spying activity against the U.S. After all, they’re our allies.

    Whoops…

    Oh, just infiltrating NASA, Atomic Energy secrets….

    You know, the kinds of things that if they were carried out by China, Iran, Russia, or Kenya for that matter, they would be characterized by Puddles and Bolton, and the whole right wing noise machine as Acts of War.

    But Israel? Nothing to see here. Need another billion, friend?

  39. 54

    Czechsaaz spews:

    @20, 30 & 46

    So Piddles, the 11% in WSJ identified as Independent/leans Democrat, these are Democrats?. Only way you get to your panty bunching 12% over poll or 46% Democratic number is to include those who told the pollster they aren’t Democrats.

  40. 55

    Puddybud spews:

    Poor poor checksez,

    Uses the wrong poll… Muslims who lean DUMMOCRAPT (46%)! Now that’s

    Tooooooooooooooo

    Damnnnnnnnnnnnn

    Fuuuuuuunnnnnnny

    HAHAHAHAHAHA!

    Then keeps the stupidity rolling in #53. Bwaaaaaaaa haaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaa. It wasn’t Puddy who claimed it… it was MSM libtards who admitted it. Go back to early last week and read dude.

    Stay away from the left wrong kook-aid sites checksez… You’ll “appear” more lucid. Alex, give checksez Final Jeopardy!

  41. 56

    Puddybud spews:

    Gee Puddy, does the name Jonathan Pollard mean anything to you.

    Yeah, but this sadministration tells the world it’s clandestine secrets and then wonders why leaders don’t trust Obummer. Notice Putin wants to place a base in Cuba now? A strong US leader would have stopped that. Russia wasn’t adventurous when Bush was in the White House. Strong leadership provides a foreign deterrent. Obummer ain’t a strong leader. That’s why Putin wants Obummer to win another term. Putin can have his way!

    Still stupid even this Sunday morning!!!!!

  42. 57

    czechsaaz spews:

    I Haven’t addressed you Muslim poll cause it was a deliberate Red Herring. But if you want to brag about ANOTHER cultural or ethnic or religious group that won’t vote Republican for at least a generation, go right ahead.

  43. 58

    Puddybud spews:

    I Haven’t addressed you Muslim poll cause it was a deliberate Red Herring.

    You brought it up @45. There is no Pew poll out there where DUMMOCRAPTS are at 46%!

    PROVE IT!

    Good try at deflection ya moron!

  44. 59

    ev spews:

    To Doctor Lib Sci and Mrs. Dr. Lib Sci–
    When ObamaCare was being touted by you leftists, I asked a simple question over & over again.
    Where are the all the doctors going to come from??

    Now, way too late, the NY Times has an article that points to the harsh realities.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07.....d=fb-share

    So Lib Sci..where are all the doctors going to come from?
    You are such a medical “expert” & deep thinker, I’m sure you must have thought about this and have the answer…don’t you??

    We know a number of doctors who are going to absolutely refuse to take any new patients.
    Are you going to force them to take new patients??
    How? Lock ‘em up if they don’t??

    We are headed toward a real nightmare folks.
    Leftists get so damn excited about leftist ideas, they too often fail to even look at the unintended consequences of their actions.

    So Lib Sci…
    Respond to the article.
    Where are the docs coming from??
    What will be the quality of care if we start crankin’ docs out at some earth muffin college??

    Hi, my name is Dr. Moonflower and I just graduated from the Earth Muffin School of Medicine. Take these herbs and come back next year.

  45. 60

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @55 “Russia wasn’t adventurous when Bush was in the White House.”

    WTF? Are you trying to paint Chimpface as a “tough guy” who kept Russia in check? Are you out of your fucking mind? Ex-KGB agent Putin spent the decade of 2000-2009 consolidating dictatorial power over Russia and blowing the shit out of Chechnya, while your boy was bogged down in two wars in Iraq and Afghanistan he couldn’t win.

  46. 61

    ev spews:

    45. czechsaaz spews:

    @30

    You’re aware that in 2011, Pew found 46% of American’s identified as Demcrats? And just this month, Rasmussen, the pollster Republicans love, pegged 35.4% of Americans self identified as Republicans.

    WSj sample of 46-34 is damn close. What was that about Checkmate? Would you like links or can you Google…er…Bing, this being Seattle?

    In 2008, the electorate identified as D+7. Does anyone want to wager that the electorate will be MORE Democrat this election than four years ago? Yet MSNBC/WSJ try to say with a straight face that the electorate is now +11Democrat???
    Give it up czech. Even Democrat Pollsters have said this poll you refer to is horribly skewed.

    Puddybud–Why can’t this fool named czech just admit he is wrong rather than continue to throw out random stats to try and justify the unjustifiable?
    Don’t these leftists ever just take a wee step back and say..”You know, COMMON SENSE says there are fewer Dems in 2012 than 2008?”
    But NO, they have to continue down the amusing road of anemically trying to justify a clear outlier poll based on ridiculous assumptions.

    So if someone does a poll that is +11Republican, do you think czech would be screaming foul?? Yet he continues to make a bigger ass out of himself.
    Also note, that none of the other leftists are trying to come to czech’s defense on this idiocy.

    Give it up czech.

  47. 62

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @58 So what the fuck is this? An argument for denying people access to health care because we’ll need more doctors for the increased number of patients? Is that the wingnut concept of a
    rational argument?

  48. 63

    Steve spews:

    @58 Gawd, you’re so incredibly fucking stupid. How do you live with yourself? I mean, really, how do you live with yourself?

  49. 64

    czechsaaz spews:

    Oh deary, dear Piddles.

    I guess you got me, this here Pew poll Shows 47% Democrat but it did include Independent leaners

    http://pewresearch.org/pubs/20.....ite-voters

    So what might lead to a shocking number of Independent Republican leaners in 2011 to now identify straight independent for Rasmussen in 2012? JOBS…JOBS…JOBS in Congress meaning 32 symbolic and futile votes against Obamacare, abortion votes, a whole series of meetings on women’s health including mo women, NO BIRTH CONTROL FOR YOU, Obama’s birth certificate is fake, hold the country hostage and imperil the credit rating. These are all Republican ideas.

    And the movement between the Pew and Rasmussen numbers suggest that while Dem leaning independents are still Dem leaning independents, the R-leaners recognize the crazy when they see it and want no further part.of it.

  50. 65

    czechsaaz spews:

    Of course I recognize that all this is academic as we’re looking only at national numbers. But in all those state-by-state analyses it would appear that Willard needs to flip 90% of the Obama leaning states and run the table on all the tossups too.

    So Piddles and ElectricVehicle, if those are the kinds of odds that fill you with confidence, I’d be happy to offer you 100-1 on the Mariners winning the World Series.

  51. 67

    ev spews:

    61. Roger Rabbit spews:

    @58 So what the fuck is this? An argument for denying people access to health care because we’ll need more doctors for the increased number of patients? Is that the wingnut concept of a
    rational argument?

    07/29/2012 AT 10:27 AM

    62. Steve spews:

    @58 Gawd, you’re so incredibly fucking stupid. How do you live with yourself? I mean, really, how do you live with yourself?

    Si in other words..you 2 idiots cannot tell us where the doctors are going to come from either. It’s a real problem. More insureds will yield exponentially more doctor visits.
    Come to grips with that please…and answer the question.
    Where are all the doctors going to come from to meet the increased demand??

    Makes your head hurt to think about it, doesn’t it guys?!!! Try. Simple, simple question.

    Where are all the doctors going to come from to meet the increased demand?
    Are you guys going to give up your slots for someone else?? I doubt it, especially when you are really ill like the Rabbit.

    There is no answer from the Obama crowd..just more irrelevant vitrol instead of answering the simple question..
    Where are all the doctors going to come from to meet the increased demand?

    PLEASE TRY..although I know you won’t because you cannot.

  52. 68

    Puddybud spews:

    Notice the HA hemorrhoid ylb ran away…

    ROTFLMBBAO!

    Even copies my HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    Neva an original thought from that moron! But he’ll ask you to take the test!

    Oh it’s fake!

  53. 69

    Puddybud spews:

    Jobs… The preznit Obummer claimed he had a jobs plan… DUMMOCRAPTS in Congress and Senate gave Obummer carte blanch to go with it. DUMMMOCRAPTS railed on Bush for his job failings so you can’t deflect and blame that on congress ya dope. Nope, that’s a loser just like you!

    And how do we know it worked? Well look at the unemployment numbas. Still over 8% even after the BLS lowered the number of people seeking work over the last year and numbas are still there.

  54. 70

    YLBigot says: US military deaths after 2008 arent really that important and deserve to be back page news spews:

    39. YLB spews:/

    LMAO!!! Rujax and I were really onto to something

    07/28/2012 AT 9:02 PM

    yes, its called welfare…

  55. 71

    Puddybud spews:

    More facts for checksez:

    Deficits at the $$$Trillion level since Obummer took orifice. GDP growth at 1.5% after the anemic 1.9% last quarter. Now we see US poverty at the highest level in 50 years. 41 straight months of over 8% unemployment.

    Now here’s the killa. Imagine if President Romney said, “We tried our plan and it worked.” The slobbering libtard MSM would go apoplectic! But we have a DUMMOCRAPT in da whitey house! And nary a peep from ABC, CBS, CNN or Obummer’s personal networks NBC and PMSNBC. Obummer uttered this exact useless sentence last July 23rd. And is it a wonder why no one watches the standard network news anymore!

  56. 72

    Puddybud spews:

    yes, its called welfare…

    Well not welfare @69. But we know one doesn’t work at all all day and we’re not sure what the other does except play in a band!

    You should change it’s name to YLButtSpigot because all he does is spew useless horseshit on this blog!

  57. 73

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @66 “Where are all the doctors going to come from to meet the increased demand??”

    Why do you even need to ask? The free-market guys can answer your question. According to them, more demand always increases supply.

  58. 74

    spews:

    ran away…

    Heh. Still here dummy. And why should anyone sane have anything to do with a pathological liar??

    Carry on silly.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

  59. 75

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    So this is the new wingnut meme? We have to deny health care to millions of people because we don’t have enough doctors for everyone?

    Upfront, that’s a falsehood, because the uninsured are getting health care now. Obamacare doesn’t really expand access; it’s mostly about who pays for existing health services.

    So the answer to your question is: The demand will be met by the same doctors who are serving those patients now, but they’ll be working in health clinics instead of emergency rooms.

  60. 77

    czechsaaz spews:

    @70 And there’s where Puddy shifts from looking at real numbers by real polsters and moves to what he knows is true because he believes, in the depths of his soul, that America knows exactly what he believes is true.

    Why if only more Americans could see that the stimulous failed, Republicans would be walking away with this. Why if only Americans who aren’t in poverty could see that the Dow over 13000 is bad for their 401k, this would be a cakewalk. Why, if only Americans who ARE in poverty could just see that electing the party that openly campaigns on killing what little assistance they get, there would be no Democrats. If only more Americans recognized that cutting Public Sector Payrolls would actually DECREASE unemployment and spur GDP growth, this would be in the bag.

    Fortunately, the % of Americans that ARE Puddy level stupid will cast losing votes for Willard in November.

  61. 79

    Puddybud spews:

    More EPIC FAYLES by the HA hemorrhoid crazed databaze deala.

    ylbuttspigot keeps dealing his horseshit all day every day 365 times a day!

  62. 85

    spews:

    “I like Governor Palin,” Cheney said. “I’ve met her. I know her. She – attractive candidate. But based on her background, she’d only been governor for, what, two years. I don’t think she passed that test … of being ready to take over. And I think that was a mistake.”

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....16078.html

    LMAO!!! Too sweet… Is the freak any more ready??

  63. 86

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @70 “Deficits at the $$$Trillion level since Obummer took orifice.”

    Yep, every 30 years we Democrats have to bail the country out of another Republican Depression, and save capitalism again.

  64. 87

    Serial Conservative spews:

    Alright, this hasn’t been reviewed yet and is subject to the usual skepticism at least for that reason:

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/201.....more-68286

    This is a review of the effects of ‘urbanity’ on surface station siting for collection of temperatures. Seems the best-sited stations show far less temperature increase than those with poorer siting, and that the best-sited data are increased three-fold after NOAA gets involved to ‘adjust’ the data (Ever notice how the computerized adjustments are always up from the actual measurements? But I digress.).

    In defense of Watts and McIntyre, I’ll merely point out that one of the co-authors is from UAH, which lends significant cred.

    Spent an hour on the kayak today off Whidbey. Amazing day.

  65. 89

    Liberal Scientist is a Dirty Fucking Hippie spews:

    Just dropping by – I’m working today so have no time to converse.
    However, had to respond
    @86
    Bullshit. Total Bullthis.

    Watts is not credible. See here.

    Despite concerns raised about its possible contribution to global warming, comparisons between urban and rural areas show that the urban heat island effects have little influence on global mean temperature trends.

  66. 90

    Liberal Scientist is a Dirty Fucking Hippie spews:

    Cereal, could you please provide me with an affirmative argument for a Romney Presidency? Five little points….

  67. 91

    Serial Conservative spews:

    @ 87

    Not exactly sure what statement Watts made – link, perhaps?

    Here’s what Watts et al. have to say now:

    166 Given that the WMO has endorsed the Leroy (2010) classification system in CIMO-XV 167 (2010) as a WMO-ISO standard, it is suitable for use in re-assessing the station quality 168 issues reported by Watts (2009)., Menne et al.,(2010), Fall et al.,(2011), and Muller et 169 al.,(2012).

    http://wattsupwiththat.files.w.....elease.pdf

    They’re re-reviewing BEST data, amongst others, with an updated system for assessing site quality.

    As I said @ 86, it hasn’t been reviewed as yet. Having Christy on the paper is a little tougher for you to dismiss, no?

    And since when is something published and ‘accepted’ set in stone, when it’s called into question by newer methods of analysis?

  68. 92

    spews:

    It’s conservative in the little C sense that most people mean when they say, a conservative family insures itself, for example, and doesn’t take unnecessary risks and gambles. And that’s an important point, because what we’re dealing with here is risk. And a conservative approach to risk is, to take out an insurance policy, for one thing. And that’s the way we ought to be thinking about this problem.

    http://www.desmogblog.com/if-c.....al-warming

    Emails contained “veiled threats against my wife,” and other “tangible threats,” Emanuel, a highly regarded atmospheric scientist and director of MIT’s Atmospheres, Oceans and Climate program, said in an interview. “They were vile, these emails. They were the kind of emails nobody would like to receive.”

    http://www.motherjones.com/env.....renzy-hate

  69. 94

    Serial Conservative spews:

    @ 88

    Yeah, not much in climate research has transpired since, um, 1999. You’ve got me there. Guilty.

    I’ll see your 1999 study and raise with one from 2007:

    We conclude that the data contamination likely leads to an overstatement of actual trends over land. Using the regression model to filter the extraneous, nonclimatic effects reduces the estimated 1980–2002 global average temperature trend over land by about half.

    http://www.uoguelph.ca/%7Ermck.....RDec07.pdf

    You know Ross McKittrick, don’t you? With McIntyre he’s the one who proved that Michael Mann pulled the Hockey Stick out of his ass and handed it to IPCC3, which licked it clean and featured it in their report.

    Ah, but The Science Is Settled. Right?

  70. 95

    Serial Conservative spews:

    @ 92

    Were you to click on your own link and learn that Watts’ comment was made prior to BEST publication, and before Watts learned that Muller did something Watts took issue with, you might have the interest to see what else Watts said:

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/201.....the-house/

    It takes two more clicks from your own link and it’s a lot to ask of you on a Sunday, I know, but you were the one who brought it up.

    BEST used a 1999 method to rate stations. Watts used a 2010 method.

    We don’t keep time by sundials anymore. It was a standard used once, but we’ve moved beyond it. Advances in methods of quantification can be a nuisance, I know.

  71. 96

    ev spews:

    72. Roger Rabbit spews:

    @66 “Where are all the doctors going to come from to meet the increased demand??”

    Why do you even need to ask? The free-market guys can answer your question. According to them, more demand always increases supply.

    That’s a non-answer Roger.
    I’m asking you since you were a defender of ObamaCare–
    “Where are all the doctors going to come from to meet the increased demand??”

  72. 97

    Serial Conservative spews:

    @ 95

    Here’s my concern about that:

    I think we’re going to see the quality of physicians in a rapidly expanded pool of medical professionals that we see when pro teams expand and a lot of not-ready-for-prime-time-players take the field.

    I’m afraid that we’ll see standards lowered and people moved through training programs because we need bodies.

    Do I want a physician who matriculated through the medical school at the University of Washington? Or one who matriculated through the newly created School of Medicine at, say, Central Washington University? I guess if I need to turn my head and cough it doesn’t much matter. If I need an aortic valve replacement………….

    it might.

  73. 98

    spews:

    Watts used a 2010 method.

    Hmmm. Did this 2010 method pass peer review? It takes a year.. Has it been vetted? Or was it pulled out of the ass of yet another “skeptic”?

    Blah, blah..

    Of course Watts took issue. How could someone like him predict that Koch money would fund a guy who would EVER come to the “wrong” conclusion?

    I’m sure we haven’t heard the last word on this..

  74. 99

    ev spews:

    ObamaCare provides for less than 1/12 the necessary Primary Care Docs needed by 2014.

    Where are the Docs coming from??

    And come on…ObamaCare will push some docs to the sidelines..or they will simply not take any obamacare patients. What are you going to do about that???

  75. 101

    ev spews:

    @96–
    Absolutely and that’s the point. In the end, Obamacare will cause quality of care to drop greatly for most Americans. The rich will still be able to have plenty of access. So the leftist meme of screwing the rich will actually result in screwing themselves and the middle class.

    The only way to prevent that is if Obama’s regime overseas and approves every patient a doctor sees and orders them to take on obamacare patients. That will be next.
    It will end up as 1 huge bureaucratic clusterf@@k.
    But the Union Boss Thugs will be exempt!
    That’s what is truly amazing.
    How the Obama “exemptions” were doled out to friends of Barry.
    What a joke.

  76. 102

    ev spews:

    All the leftists can do is try and make light of the doctor shortage and all the related problems obamacare creates. It’s a funny joke. haha.

    Where are the answers boys????

    “Where are all the doctors going to come from to meet the increased demand??”

  77. 103

    Serial Conservative spews:

    @ 97

    endorsed by the World Meteorological Organization (WMO) Commission for Instruments and Methods of Observation (CIMO-XV, 2010) Fifteenth session, in September 2010 as a WMO-ISO standard

    from the original link I posted @ 86.

    Here’s the WMO pdf:

    http://www.wmo.int/pages/prog/.....064_en.pdf

    This probably is the relevant passage:

    The Commission thanked Mr Michel Leroy (France), the chair of the Expert Team on Surface-Based Instrument Intercomparisons and Calibration Methods (ET-SBII&CM) for steering the activities of the expert team according to its terms of reference and CIMO-MG guidance. It noted with satisfaction the progress and achievements made in this area.

    Is that enough? Dunno. Who’s the ‘controlling authority’? (Thanks, Al Gore.) WMO? IPCC? UEA? NOAA? UAH?

  78. 104

    YLBigot says: US military deaths after 2008 arent really that important and deserve to be back page news spews:

    2x YLBigot self ownage in one day.

    impressive.

  79. 105

    Serial Conservative spews:

    @ 97

    I’m sure we haven’t heard the last word on this..

    So am I. One of the reasons I threw it out there for discussion.

    If not for the inclusion of a UAH researcher as a study author, I would not have.

  80. 112

    Puddybud spews:

    Oh shit this one is a classic:

    Another narcissistic posting from ylbuttspigot. More EPIC FAYLES. More diarrhea. I guess it was 6 Spicy Tacos after all.

  81. 113

    Puddybud spews:

    Yep, every 30 years we Democrats have to bail the country out of another Republican Depression, and save capitalism again.

    Good Try Roger DUMB Wabbit. We were told Obummer and his economic team had The Plan.

    His economic team left Roger DUMB Wabbit. They went back to college to teach again.

    Of course you have no excuse for Obummer’s failures so blame it on Bush.

  82. 114

    Puddybud spews:

    “cognitively impaired”

    Yeah, more name calling and we have job. What does ylbbuttspigot have?

    Unemployment!

  83. 115

    Puddybud spews:

    Mitt Romney: A Candidate With a Serious Wimp Problem

    The same thing Newsbleak called GHWBush years ago!

  84. 117

    Puddybud spews:

    Isn’t NewsWeak, going all Internet? And they wonder why they were bleeding readers with headlines like that one against Romney!

    Of course NewsWeak didn’t cover Obummer’s golf outing today!

  85. 118

    Meme1 spews:

    @115

    Bush started the auto bailout for GM, you unbelievable moron.

    Even Sticky Ricky Santorum admitted that; or are you deaf as well as stupid?

  86. 119

    Puddybud spews:

    Bush started the auto bailout for GM, you unbelievable moron.

    GHWBush – George Herbert Walker Bush? Bush the Elder!

    You unbelievable moron!

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

  87. 120

    Meme1 spews:

    Nope, George W. Bush, also known as Dubya the Bushwacker.

    You pathological liar, sick fuck lunatic.

  88. 125

    Puddybud spews:

    meme1,

    I was the one here who said months ago Bush was the originator of the auto loan bailout. You can ask ylbuttspigot, HA’s hemorrhoid crazed deranged databaze keepa. He’ll gladly leave another diarrhea trail of HA regurgitation. Just axe him…

    Here are the facts… I already covered this some time ago but you’re a libtard idiot with 24 hour memory malady so it seems a refresher is needed…

    GWBush authorized the first auto loan in October 2008 for GM and Chrysler of $17.4 Billion. But, Bush put some stipulations by declaring the loan depended on the companies hitting “Restructuring Targets

    Thus the loan agreements drafted by Treasury take a more flexible approach. There are “Restructuring Targets” to be met in the companies’ recovery plans, including moving to a more competitive wage structure by the end of 2009. But there is also some leeway if alternative savings can be found. The restructuring report due March 31 “shall identify any deviations from the Restructuring Targets and explain the rationale for these deviations, including an explanation of why such deviations do not jeopardize the Borrower’s long-term viability.

    So when Obummer came into the whitey house… He threw out those stipulations. He upped the ante to $85 Billion. He inserted Steven Rattner as the car czar. Rattner killed jobs all over the country by closing down dealerships. Obummer saved the Voluntary Employee Beneficiary Association (VEBA) for the UAW and that’s wh ere most of the $85 Billion went to, not the creditors owed by GM and Chrysler! Basically Obummer gave to the UAW +$25 Billion!

    So the bottom line is… We the taxpayer will will be out tens of Billions.

    See ya turdball!

  89. 126

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @124 “So the bottom line is… We the taxpayer will will be out tens of Billions.”

    Voting Republican will cost you a lot more than that … unfunded wars … unfunded tax cuts … unfunded prescription drug program … unfunded this … unfunded that … you see, pudnutz, Republicans don’t spend less money, they just spend it on different stuff, none of which benefits shmucks like you.

  90. 128

    Puddybud spews:

    @123,

    EPIC FAYLE again. I have a job. Pays well, pays for my vacations!

    What do you have? Absolutely Nuthin!

  91. 129

    Puddybud spews:

    unfunded prescription drug program

    Wasn’t that Teddy Kennedy’s signature achievement?

    Why does Roger DUMB Wabbit hate Ted Chappaquiddick Kennedy?

    Sheesh, DUMB Wabbit what will you hate next?

  92. 130

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @112 I don’t need to excuse Obama’s “failures” because he isn’t a failure like your organ grinder monkey was. Didja notice layoffs went down and GDP went up after he took over? Not to mention the stock market — I made damn near $10,000 last week. Think I’d vote against the guy who revived the economy? Guess again.

  93. 131

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @128 “Wasn’t that Teddy Kennedy’s signature achievement?”

    Nope. Your chimp. And he paid for it by borrowing from his Chinese friends.

  94. 133

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @128 “Sheesh, DUMB Wabbit what will you hate next?”

    Well, let’s see, how about dogs? I hate dogs! Dogs are good fer nuthin! All they do is eat, shit, bark, and chase rabbits. Dogs are even more useless than Republicans, if that’s possible.

  95. 135

    Serial Conservative spews:

    @ 97

    Since you asked whether Watts’ work was based on methodology that had undergone peer review, I think it appropriate to point out that the BEST work itself has not yet been peer-reviewed, at least not to the point that a decision has been made to permit publication in the journals to which the work was submitted:

    http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes......t-warming/

    and that at least one of the reviewers of the work has twice recommended that the work not be published. That reviewer (McKittrick) published his criticism today (7/30 entry):

    http://www.rossmckitrick.com/

    Just sayin’.

  96. 136

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @133 I don’t need to try again. I’m right and you’re full of shit.

    “Ted Kennedy not only voted against Bush’s Medicare Part D legislation, he was one its most vocal opponents.”

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/.....y-would-do

    Next time, spend 30 seconds fact-checking so you don’t make a fool of yourself, like you did this time.

  97. 138

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Funny how none of these deniers tried to discredit Muller until he changed sides. I wonder how many times his work was quoted by the same people now trying to paint him as a scientific quack?
    And what does that say about them?

  98. 139

    Very Severe Conservative spews:

    @96. I think we’re going to see the quality of physicians in a rapidly expanded pool of medical professionals [decrease]
    Totally right. There for we should not try anything, because the quality might go down. It might effect my level of care, as a republican, if we allowed everyone to have access to health care, so we should not change the system one bit.

  99. 140

    ev spews:

    @138
    Everyone already has access to Health Care. It’s just that ObamaCare creates a massive costly bureaucracy adding greatly to the cost. Also, docs that don’t believe in government intervention in their health care are likely to leave..adding to the problem.
    What obamacare does is exacerbate, making much, much worse and much more costly an existing trend and problem.

    So, @138–
    Answer my question please.
    Where are all the docs going to come from???
    Can’t answer, can you.
    All you can do is throw in a barb that it’s selfish republicans.
    Try again..
    Where are all the needed docs going to come from??

  100. 141

    Puddybud spews:

    Yes Roger you are right. He voted Nay for the final bill while voting yea for the first bill. He wanted Bush to fund it at $800 Billion while Bush funded it at $400 Billion.

    Enter Ted Kennedy. The senior senator from Massachusetts, the longtime leader of Democrats on health issues, saw the inclusion of $400 billion in the budget resolution not as a Republican coup, but as an opportunity to embellish Medicare with an important and needed new benefit—a crowning Democratic legislative achievement.

    Although $400 billion was not enough to provide the benefits that Kennedy sought, he insisted that once prescription drug coverage was a reality, a future Congress could extend and improve it. Kennedy believed that, if Democrats stuck together, they could force the Republican congressional majorities to go along with an acceptable bill. Democrats had the 40 Senate votes necessary to sustain a filibuster.

    So if this was an “unfunded liability” at $400 Billion as you call it, what would it have been called at $800 Billion?

    See ya!

  101. 142

    No Time for Fascists spews:

    Where are all the needed docs going to come from??
    I donno, what about the invisible hand of the market? If there is demand, doctors will be trained.
    why do you suddenly fear our free market system?

  102. 143

    Serial Conservative spews:

    @ 141

    What part of the free market system does the University of Washington belong to, NTfF?

    Adding medical schools is different than opening another Starbucks. My rough guess is that from the time a new school is first discussed to the time that school is planned, built, staffed, opened, and students are graduated, about a decade elapses.

    I suppose it would be easier to mandate that all existing schools accepting federal dollars expand their student bodies by 10% within three years. Easier unless you’re the dean of a medical school subject to this type of mandate, that is.

  103. 144

    No Time for Fascists spews:

    What part of the free market system does the University of Washington belong to?
    The market part. Duh.

    When there is more demand, schools will ramp up.
    It’s like the economy. If there is demand, then businesses can hire.
    Why is that suddenly so hard for you to understand?

  104. 145

    Puddybud spews:

    When there is more demand, schools will ramp up.

    Ummm.. You may want a quack doctor, Puddy wants a great doctor. So “ramping up” to provide more physicians isn’t the greatest action Fascist one!

  105. 146

    Serial Conservative spews:

    @ 143

    When there is more demand, schools will ramp up.
    It’s like the economy. If there is demand, then businesses can hire.
    Why is that suddenly so hard for you to understand?

    When budgets are being cut, and when tuitions cover only a small part of the cost of educating a student, where does the money come from to expand or build schools?

    What part of the blood-turnip relationship is so hard for YOU to understand? There’s no money to do it. Health care is a huge money pit. Unless there is a huge cash infusion to subsidize the cost of this (Is there? I don’t know for sure but I don’t think so.) it’s an unfunded requirement that will only end up making the whole heath care law debacle even more costly than it already is.

  106. 147

    Gman spews:

    Who needs doctors when everyone will be starving due to a lack of food due to gloable warming. I can’t believe the graet concern for a lack of doctors, but not the concern for anything else. What idiots. No water no live.

  107. 148

    Gman spews:

    why don’t the conservatives here talk about GWB Medicare plan that isn’t paid for, costing in excess of 60 Billion per year towards the deficit, the same deficit that they like to blame Obama for. Why? They must be afraid or lack intelligence, take your heads out of each others asses.

  108. 149

    No Time for Fascists spews:

    You just don’t want to pay for anything do you.
    No money. That’s your response for everything. It’s like trying to have a dialogue with a skipping CD player. Why bother.

  109. 150

    spews:

    It’s too funny to see the right wingers demand “great doctors” from “socialist”-style universities like UW where HA blogger Prof Darryl teaches.

    Why not let the market decide? Ever hear of University of Phoenix???? I’ve been hearing from right wing dopes for years that there’s nothing markets can’t do!

    Really, this is hysterically funny!

  110. 151

    No Time for Fascists spews:

    @146. By your logic, I anticipate your vocal opposition to Prez romney starting a war on Iran, on the grounds that it will required new trained military personal and that costs money that we cannot afford. I want you to write to romney “What part of the blood-turnip relationship is so hard for YOU to understand? There’s no money to do it. The military is a huge money pit.”

  111. 152

    ev spews:

    142. No Time for Fascists spews:

    Where are all the needed docs going to come from??
    I donno, what about the invisible hand of the market? If there is demand, doctors will be trained.
    why do you suddenly fear our free market system?

    Take a look at the medical schools and retirement curve for docs…and add those who refuse to participate in obamacare.
    Where are the docs going to come from?
    It takes years and years of costly training and there are far from enough in the pipeline to meet the growing demand.

    Saying the free market will take care of it??
    Fine. But in this case, there is a long time lag between entering school and being ready to provide high quality medical service.

    Please, one of you pinko’s show me how the need the next 10 years will be met…please!!
    It’s a simple, logical question yet you fools avoid it over & over again…because you can’t answer it. Idiots.

  112. 153

    ev spews:

    When there is more demand, schools will ramp up.
    It’s like the economy. If there is demand, then businesses can hire.
    Why is that suddenly so hard for you to understand?

    Because training Medical Docs is different from selling hamburgers.
    Besides, I thought ObamaCare was supposed to save us money??
    With a higher demand for docs…should the cost of training those extra docs be charged to obamacare??
    One of the many problems with obama in general is all the “hidden costs” when he gets you assholes all jazzed up about some “free” shit.

    This is yet another case..a big oops.

    Where are the docs going to come from to meet the growing demand under obamacare??
    Should have thought of this BEFORE it was passed. Oh yeah, Pelosi wanted to pass it first so she would know what was in it.
    WTF!!!!!!!!!

  113. 154

    Gman spews:

    Just saw a politcal ad on the internet about out of control spending and the national debt. The commercial narrator was telling viewers to tell the President and Congress to stop the crazy spending because the debt is just too much…but they leave out the other side of the equation, and that tax rates are the lowest they’ve ever been. Maybe we should focus on a little tax increase for the very wealthy as well as get spending under control…what hog wash. The debt is mostly attributed to the monkey W Bush tax cuts. And idiot Romney wants to cut the taxes further….what about the Debt. This is easy enough for a second grader to understand but too much for the Teahadists.

  114. 155

    Gman spews:

    You would think that having a need for more doctors would be a great thing for a Republican, unless they would rather everyone work for Walmart and die trying to get ahead and then tax the lower income more severly than the upper level brackets. American Exceptionalism.