Friday Night Multimedia Extravaganza!

Slatester: Michigan lawmaker says “vagina,” is banned from House floor.

Minneapolis Mayor RT Rybak: Mitt Romney has history of firing people.

Bill Maher: Obama’s hologram.

Susie Sampson’s Tea Party Report at Netroots Nation.

You’re Welcome: BP Voices from the Gulf:

Stephanie Cutter: Mitt distorts.

Romney’s bizarre “jobs plan”.

Thom: More Good, Bad, and Very, Very Ugly.

Jon: Senate’s misguided drone criticism.

Young Turks: Obama admin. will stop deporting young immigrants.

Mark Fiore: Big Latvia success story!

Alyona’s Tool Time Award: Attack of the vagina.

White House: West Wing Week.

Pap: How Wisconsin uprising was hijacked.

Thom: The root of Romney’s comfort with lying.

Young Turks: “Vagina” gets Rep. banned.

Jon: Judging Jamie Diamon.

Romney senior advisor Kevin Madden has an Etch-A-Sketch moment on immigration.

Thom: Money has crushed the voice of the people.

Eric Schwartz: Vagina Jase Bolger (R-MI):

Romney advisor says his position on immigration is the same as President Obama’s.

Actual Audio: Mitt v. jobs.

Thom: The Good, the Bad, and the Very, Very Ugly.

I Didn’t Speak Up, 2012.

Sam Seder: Don’t say “vagina” in Michigan.

Obama: Department of Homeland Security Immigration announcement.

Stephen: Union cafeteria workers.

Sam Seder: Virginia Republicans war on words “Sea Level Rise”.

Jonathan Mann: The Vagina Song:

Thom: The GOP witchhunt against Holder.

The Mitt Romney “jobs plan”.

Letterman: Romney and doughnuts.

Liberal Viewer: Steven Crowder supports NAMBLA?

Obama: LGBT Pride Month reception.

Newsy: U.S. will stop deportation of young immigrants.

Ben LaBolt: Mitt Romney is running for office on a false premise.

Young Turks: Obama heckled by Daily Caller reporter during immigration remarks.

Ezra Klein: Nailing Romney for supporting Bush policies.

Newsy: “Vagina” comments get lawmaker blocked in Michigan.

Thom and Pap: Why are Senators fondling banksters?.

Daily Show: Florida voter purge.

Pap: Rick Scott and the pathology of lying.

Jen with pollster, John Whaley, How to ask poll questions.

Obama Boy: Crush on Obama:

Sam Seder: Rick Scott still disenfranchising voters, suing Homeland Security to save face.

Mitt Romney: Out Of Touch!

Last week’s Friday Night Multimedia Extravaganza can be found here.

Comments

  1. 6

    bob spews:

    Remember when Obama said he had a ‘compromise’ that the Catholic Church hospitals could be comfortable with, regarding the requirement to provide birth control services to its employees and patients?

    Er, not so much, it turns out:

    IN STUNNING REVERSAL, CHA PRESIDENT SISTER CAROL KEEHAN WITHDRAWS SUPPORT FOR OBAMA’S HHS ‘ACCOMMODATION’…

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/t.....commo-n-g/

    Oh, and don’t miss this part:

    Recall that Sister Keehan’s initial approval of the “accommodation”, like Dionne’s, was released via the White House religion press portal almost simultaneously with the WH announcement; it gave enormous political cover to the president, and helped him to divide a church that had — quickly and uncharacteristically — united against the HHS Mandate. Now, she’s walking it back.

    I think we can call this a personal ‘Fuck You’ to The One from Sister Carol Keehan.

    Pennsylvania has a lot of Catholics, I hear. Supreme Court, too. How about that.

  2. 7

    Liberal Scientist is a a dirty fucking hippie spews:

    Pennsylvania has a lot of Catholics, I hear.

    Most of the women of which use birth control.

    ****

    Right on cue, bob is here with his daily torrent of right-tard talking points. (it’s ‘bob’ today? Not ‘serial conservative’? Why the switch?)

    He is, of course, only here for conversation, and to ‘make us think’ or some such swill.

  3. 8

    Liberal Scientist is a a dirty fucking hippie spews:

    So, bub, does @6 reflect your position?

    That is, should contraception be considered essential basic health care for a reproductive-age woman? And as such, should it be mandated at part of comprehensive health care?

    Or, should an employer get to decide, for whatever reason, what his employee does with her uterus and vagina?

    It’s really that simple. Which side are you on?

  4. 9

    Steve spews:

    Republican values. Senator McCain calls his wife a “cunt” and fascists like Bob say nothing. Michigan State House Representative Lisa Brown says the word “vagina” and fascists like Bob want her banned from speaking.

  5. 12

    Liberal Scientist is a a dirty fucking hippie spews:

    This ain’t China.

    What the fuck are you talking about?

    Are you actually equating ‘forced abortion’ with comprehensive women’s health care? A woman’s autonomy over her body?

    Is that what you’re saying?

  6. 13

    Steve spews:

    Speaking of the wingnut experiment with fascism in America, when is Bob going to cut those poor, elderly black residents of Benton Harbor some slack? A global corporation abandons the town for the greener pastures of Mexico. The Republican governor appoints an Emergency Manager to rule the town in place of it’s local elected representatives, stripping them of any authority. Then the Emergency Manager gives away the town’s waterfront park to the very same global corporation which had previously skipped town, which they then turned into a golf resort for the 1%.

    Do you think that maybe the fascists had fucked over the citizens of Benton harbor enough by now? No, not Bob and the Michigan fascists. They passed three voter suppression, er, ID laws last week, intended to prevent many Michigan citizens, such as the elderly black folk of Benton Harbor, from voting at all.

  7. 14

    Liberal Scientist is a a dirty fucking hippie spews:

    Who was the only reporter who got to ask the president a question yesterday?

    Changing the topic so soon?

    I thought you wanted to talk about women’s autonomy over their bodies?

  8. 15

    Liberal Scientist is a a dirty fucking hippie spews:

    Hi steve!

    *****

    They passed three voter suppression, er, ID laws last week, intended to prevent many Michigan citizens, such as the elderly black folk of Benton Harbor, from voting at all.

    FRAUD!! FRAUD!11!!!
    There must have been fraud there – they were probably voting Democratic – a sure sign of FRAUD!

  9. 16

    Liberal Scientist is a a dirty fucking hippie spews:

    I think we can call this a personal ‘Fuck You’ to The One from Sister Carol Keehan.

    No nun that I ever knew would say, “Fuck You.” Certainly not to the President.

    Sort of a pattern with you guys – like the reporter you revere above – and your incessant use of ‘The One’, it belies a real frat-boy like obnoxiousness. Sneering, grating, whiny, entitled.

    But back to the original topic…what makes you uncomfortable with a woman managing her own body the way she chooses?

  10. 17

    Serial Conservative spews:

    @ 12

    I can have more than one computer.

    That one went right over your pinhead, I see.

    @ 8

    ACA has created plenty of room for exceptions. Recall all of those waivers that Sebelius authorized for more than a million people currently covered by plans that would otherwise be adversely affected by the new law.

    My only point is that if religion is to be exempted on constitutional grounds, so should religiously affiliated hospitals.

    My argument is not that women should or should not have access to reproductive care and everything that goes along with it. Only that a religious objection to providing it must be respected.

    We don’t get to pick and choose amongst our Bill of Rights content, libbies.

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof…

    Deal with it.

  11. 19

    Liberal Scientist is a a dirty fucking hippie spews:

    @17
    What an incredibly specious argument, though not unexpected.

    My argument is not that women should or should not have access to reproductive care and everything that goes along with it. Only that a religious objection to providing it must be respected.

    Ergo, any asshole who employs a woman, previously known as an autonomous adult citizen, can decide what that woman does with her vagina though the control of her access to comprehensive health care.

    LIBERTY!!1!

  12. 20

    Serial Conservative spews:

    @ 16

    I have no argument about choice in that regard, generally speaking. I consider myself pro-choice, for the most part. Have issues with 11 year old girls being given abortions without parental notification and some of the fringe aspects but as far as the basics of choice, I likely see it the same way you do.

    I just don’t think a religious entity should be forced to pay for it if there is a long-held objection to doing so on religious grounds. I bet that everywhere there’s a Catholic hospital, there’s a Planned Parenthood not far away. Charities exist to do what government cannot or will not. See @ 17.

  13. 21

    Serial Conservative spews:

    @ 18

    You should read what John Yoo wrote in National Review about Obama’s announcement yesterday.

    Yeah, if one president can unilaterally impose something that Congress wouldn’t permit, the next president can revoke it just as easily. Go figure.

  14. 22

    Serial Conservative spews:

    @ 19

    Specious is your last sentence in that comment.

    A woman choosing to work for a Catholic employer should be made to realize that the benefits of her employment will not include abortion or birth control services, yes. She would have to obtain those services elsewhere.

    She, of course, is quite free to seek employment somewhere else. I hear Obama has created or saved many, many jobs. Even Sandra Fluke says the job market is improving:

    http://freebeacon.com/fluke-ho.....s-fantasy/

    since we’re talking about a woman’s religious freedom and shit.

  15. 23

    Serial Conservative spews:

    Good day, all. Gotta earn a taxable living so I can afford the TV set I will turn on when I get home so I can learn that I don’t pay my fair share of taxes. Or I could just log back on here to be told the same thing by all you wizards who aren’t self-employed and don’t have to work on Saturdays.

  16. 26

    Liberal Scientist is a a dirty fucking hippie spews:

    I consider myself pro-choice, for the most part. Have issues with 11 year old girls being given abortions without parental notification and some of the fringe aspects but as far as the basics of choice, I likely see it the same way you do.

    Gawd you’re adept at being a weasel.

    You’re shilling for employers – any employer – using the canard of ‘religious liberty’ to deprive women of their full autonomy and agency as citizen and human beings.

    Scumbag.

  17. 27

    Liberal Scientist is a a dirty fucking hippie spews:

    This is what an unbridled Republican agenda – headed by a President Romney – and abetted by Speaker Cantor and Majority Leader McConnell or Paul – will bring us.

    Any yahoo yelling ‘religious liberty’ will be able to put the wimmins that are unfortunate enough to work for him in their place. No birth control, certainly no abortion, likely no ‘lady part medicine’ at all – so icky!

    Republicans – pantomime “JOBS!” while passing more and more intrusive vaginal invasions.

  18. 28

    Liberal Scientist is a a dirty fucking hippie spews:

    She, of course, is quite free to seek employment somewhere else.

    Not when there are no jobs. That’s sort of the point, isn’t it? Economic desperation leads to a compliant workforce.

  19. 29

    Liberal Scientist is a a dirty fucking hippie spews:

    See what bub is doing at 24, 25?

    Be AFRAID, VERY VERY AFRAID of the BROWN HORDES coming to take your jobs!!!

    They’ll be after our women next, no doubt.

    Good thing bub has these guys on his side, I’m sure he’ll feel safer from the BROWN HORDES!!

  20. 30

    Liberal Scientist is a a dirty fucking hippie spews:

    Serialbob is really on a roll this morning – he’s got his race-hate on, his vagina-fearin’ on, and he’s whining about all the taxes he pays, too.

    What a loser.

    *****

    I’ll check back later – workin’ on the man-cave again today – after dropping kid at the airport – lucky duck going to a week of snowboard camp on Mt Hood. Sheesh, kids today – all we had were cardboard boxes and uphill-both-ways walks to school.

  21. 31

    bob spews:

    @ 28

    Speaking of No Jobs:

    Fifty-two percent of independents said they agreed with the idea that the president has not helped create more jobs in America, an argument central to Romney’s campaign.

    Obama appears to have trouble convincing some members of his own party that his administration has been good for jobs: 29 percent of Democrats said they agreed with the claim that he has not been a job creator.

    http://www.reuters.com/article.....CO20120615

    29% in his own party.

    Ouch.

  22. 32

    bob spews:

    @ 29, 30

    Typical lib response.

    I point out that there are economic consequences to Obama’s desperation heave yesterday and because of it I’m

    raaaaaacccccccciiiiiiiissssssssstttttttttttt.

    Where are the jobs going to come from, Lib Sci? See @31.

  23. 34

    Puddybud spews:

    06/16/2012 at 12:00 am

    While the arschloch was cruising blogs, I was in bed with my lovely wife.

    Whatabuffoon!

  24. 35

    Puddybud spews:

    Not when there are no jobs.

    Thank Obummer. It’s been his economy for a long while per Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

  25. 36

    Puddybud spews:

    Be AFRAID, VERY VERY AFRAID of the BROWN HORDES coming to take your jobs!!!

    Now why would Lib da schmuck place this comment on the blog unless he actually believed it. Why bring it up because everyone here knows it’s not in his pathos? I love how leftists throw the race card around when they have no idea what it really means to experience it.

    Lib da schmuck, a real piece of work!

    Why do you hate blacks and latinos Lib da schmuck?

    Did you enjoy beating your wife this morning?

  26. 37

    Serial Conservative spews:

    It will be interesting to watch the pressure build on public unions over the next few months. What’s been promised to the public sector unions is clearly unsustainable and there isn’t a way to tax people enough to continue the payoffs.

    Resentment will build, more liberals like Fareed Zakaria will come out and state the obvious, and many more states will start turning off the cash spigot.

    ’bout fucking time.

  27. 38

    Smilin' spews:

    Trends are important in analyzing election contests and momentum is everything. When you look at the long-term and short-term trends of Obama’s popularity, it is not going well for him.
    In RealClearPolitics Poll of Polls today, Obama’s at -1 and his Approval is stuck around 46-48%…and has been for some time.
    http://www.realclearpolitics.c.....-1044.html

    Heck, it’s a 2-week old FoxNews Poll that shows Obama at +4 that is propping the poor bastard up! And I’m certain that will change significantly in the next poll.
    Obama is in trouble. Why? Because he has a record to be held accountable to!!

  28. 39

    Serial Conservative spews:

    @ 36

    He put it there because it substitutes for a measured response. Looked at from an economic perspective it’s a current-day non-starter.

    Screaming racism gets Doctor Steve and YLB to do the same thing, then there’s a liberal chorus, and no one has to address the point of what I sent.

    Singing in the Capitol rotunda didn’t help the WI libs any, but they sure had fun doing it.

  29. 40

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @3 You think it’s okay for people who shoot themselves to have guns? You aren’t concerned they’ll progress to shooting others?

  30. 41

    Steve spews:

    Bob figures both the National Guard and militias will be required to keep order when a white governor appoints a Emergency Manager to take control of Detroit. I mistakenly refered to these a few times as “white” militias. But Bob corrected me and stated that he believed these militias would draw from local citizenry and, since Detroit is something like 87.5% black, there’d be some blacks included.

    But I’m wondering just which Michigan militia will these Detroit blacks be joining? I assume that it’d be something like this Michigan teaparty-connected militia, which planned to murder a police officer and then use IED’s to kill more many more officers at the funeral.

    http://www.the-richmonder.com/.....d-tea.html

    When they served a purpose, to quench their thirst for power, the right-wing stood with “first responders” on the rubble of the WTC. Now just a few years later they are despised as union thugs. Hell, some on the right even make plans to murder them.

    Maybe the Michigan facists should consider a trial run and let these militia guys push around the old folk of Benton Harbor for a while before the real thing comes down in Detroit.

  31. 43

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Factoid: As of 2010 the top 3 liberal magazines had 50% more paid circulation than the top 3 conservative magazines.

    http://www.vanityfair.com/onli.....nder-obama

    The magazines are: Nation, Mother Jones, Harpers (liberal); National Review, Weekly Standard, Newsmax (conservative).

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: This may have something to do with lower educational attainment and literacy levels among conservatives and/or conservatives are too cheap to buy magazines.

  32. 44

    Serial Conservative spews:

    @ 41

    Thank you for correcting your earlier comments, Steve.

    I think whatever resistance occurs will be natural and new, nothing astroturfed. I suspect we’ll see a bunch of people sufficiently motivated by unhappiness with what’s happening around them that they’ll mobilize in response.

    I also suspect, although it is not my hope, that much of this will be fanned by the usual suspects descending into Detroit to denounce the government’s actions.

    What do you know about Dave Bing? I try to separate my admiration of his athletic past from his current position. I pretty much wish he had been involved a decade ago, or even five years ago. Now I pretty much think it’s too late for anyone to get a handle on this. It’s clear he’s trying but E for Effort doesn’t go far.

  33. 45

    Serial Conservative spews:

    @ 43

    Or maybe there are fewer conservatives stupid enough to pay for killing trees when you can get the content online for free.

  34. 46

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Saudi No. 2 Dies

    Crown Prince Nayef bin Abdulaziz al-Saud, King Abdullah’s heir and the country’s most powerful anti-reform conservative, has died.

    An authoritarian figure, Nayef headed the Saudi interior ministry for 42 years and was the force between security services and religious police who suppressed activists and women.

    So conservative and authoritarian, in fact, that he almost certainly will be replaced by someone more open to reforms.

  35. 47

    Steve spews:

    Bob’s no racist. He just believes that the blacks of Detroit are going to react with violence when the Detroit local government is stripped of authority and a white Emergency Manager and ruling council are appointed by Michigan’s white Republican governor. So it’s quite understandable that the National Guard and Michigan’s right-wing militias will have to be called in to restore order.

  36. 48

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @45 You’ve got a point — people will pay for what something is worth, and the conservative magazines give away their content free, otherwise their circulation would be zero.

  37. 50

    Serial Conservative spews:

    @ 46

    How’d that reform thing work out in Egypt, RR?

    http://blogs.the-american-inte.....ere-duped/

    Is Egypt more open to reforms? Or is Egypt becoming a military state?

    Is what is happening now preferable to Mubarak’s rule? After all, it was Obama himself who called for Mubarak to step down and leave.

    Good example of what happens when we push for regime change without having anything in place for it to change INTO.

    Smart Power we were promised when Obama took office – where is that, RR?

  38. 51

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @42 ““There are a number of Barack Obama fund-raiser types from four years ago that have come over now to help with Mitt Romney,” Illinois State Treasurer Dan Rutherford said outside the Pump Room fund-raiser for Romney Thursday.”

    So the Bush bundlers and Wall Street donors who jumped ship in 2008 are returning to the GOP? That’s hardly surprising. What was shocking is the Bush regime was so bad they worked to elect a black Democrat.

  39. 53

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @50 Yeah, why not hand over power to military juntas in the first place, it’ll save everyone a lot of wasted effort. You’d probably like that in our country, too.

  40. 54

    Puddybud spews:

    Damn this too was missed by the Friday Night Funnies Purveyor

    “I think Romney wears his wealth with great modesty.” – John McLaughlin, leader of McLaughlin Group

    “Actually, I think he does.” – Mortimer Zuckerman

    “A modest guy.” – John McLaughlin.

    “Absolutely. I really think he does. I knew him when he was governor of Massachusetts.” – Mortimer Zuckerman

    “That was when he had Bain Capital. What was that like?” – John McLaughlin.

    “Bain Capital was one of the best companies to reinvigorate a lot of companies that were going down, and he did that very successfully, and created a lot of wealth and a lot of jobs I might say.” – Mortimer Zuckerman

    “He didn’t create a lot of jobs.” – Eleanor Clift.

    “I’m sorry. I’m not going to argue. I know about Bain Capital since I was involved with it.” – Mortimer Zuckerman

    Three things apparent…

    1) Eleanor Clift’s head is still up Obummer’s ASS drinking da DNC kook-aid.

    2) Real DUMMOCRAPTS like Mort Zuckerman are getting fed up about the Bain Capital lies promulgated by the DNC and broken-axle rod.

    3) Romney didn’t inherit his wealth like some DUMMOCRAPTS! He earned it.

  41. 55

    Serial Conservative spews:

    @ 51

    Not quite.

    The contributions from Wall Street generally follow the trend. Obama was clearly the favorite and the Wall Street money went to him because of it. The money rolled in largely when is wasn’t very necessary.

    Now the Wall Street money is going elsewhere. Two reasons:

    1. The quid pro quo didn’t materialize. Wall Street handed Obama big bucks and he took the money and then played class warfare, harming them in the process.

    2. Obama will lose and they know it. The money is following the trend, as it historically has. What’s different is that the money is rolling in early this election cycle. They’re working actively to defeat him, and color has absolutely nothing to do with it.

  42. 57

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    The state supreme court has finally cracked down on counties and cities who overwork public defenders to the point where indigent defendants have only token legal representation. I mean, 500 felony cases a year? C’mon. The court is ordering local governments to pony up enough money so these lawyers only have to handle 150 felonies a year — which is still a lot.

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....ad16m.html

  43. 58

    Serial Conservative spews:

    @ 53

    Spoken by someone unable to argue a more salient point.

    Actually, RR, I’m in favor of following the Constitution, not dispensing with it. That’s where you and I differ.

  44. 60

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @56 You didn’t know that a number of Bush’s top fundraisers worked for Obama in 2008? Puddy, you should read a newspaper once in a while. That was one of the best-known facts about the 2008 race.

  45. 61

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @58 “I’m in favor of following the Constitution, not dispensing with it. That’s where you and I differ.”

    This is so laughable it’s sick. The last GOP president who didn’t deliberately violate the Constitution was Eisenhower. Except maybe Jerry Ford, who was an unelected caretaker. Due process, rule of law, free speech — what’s that? Watergate, Iran contra, Dubya’s townhall arrests and renditions and waterboarding etc., you name it, if it’s in the Constitution, Republicans have violated it.

  46. 62

    Serial Conservative spews:

    Given the news items this week, I’m surprised any of the HA’ers are even willing to discuss Obama bundlers.

    I would think they would be embarrassed to do so.

  47. 63

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @55 “Obama was clearly the favorite and the Wall Street money went to him because of it.”

    Do you really expect anyone to swallow this bullshit? The Wall Street money went to Obama because the Republicans destroyed the economy.

  48. 64

    Serial Conservative spews:

    @ 61

    Where in the Constitution does it talk about czars, RR?

    Where does it talk about unilaterally imposing policy when it didn’t pass the previous year as a law, specifically because Congress rejected it?

  49. 66

    Serial Conservative spews:

    Things to contemplate:

    1. Bush did not win a single state in which he had a net negative job approval.

    2. Obama currently has net negative job approval in: North Carolina (-3.3%); New Hampshire (-1.7%); Colorado (-1.7%); Pennsylvania (-1.7%); Florida (-1.1%); Ohio (-0.9%); Virginia (-0.6%); and Iowa (-0.6%). Moreover, Obama’s job approval is below 48% in these states.

    http://hotair.com/greenroom/ar.....e-polling/

    It’s only June. But Obama is already flailing.

  50. 68

    Serial Conservative spews:

    All you HA-types who claim that voters in Benton Harbor have lost their rights to vote:

    Emergency manager issue heads to ballot
    Appeals court declined to look at panel’s decision

    http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news.....-to-ballot

    Time to STFU. It’s on the ballot. You’ll get your wish, just like the recall petitioners in WI got their wish.

    What will you claim when the whole state of MI, with a wary eye toward higher taxes if Detroit is given a Democrat-style bailout, gets to weigh in on the emergency manager law and find that they like it?

    Will you claim that the voters voted to disenfranchise themselves?

  51. 69

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Is Obama wildly popular? No, he isn’t, not even among Democrats and especially not among progressives. But he’s not a Republican. And the Anybody-But-A-Republican vote is huge.

  52. 70

    Serial Conservative spews:

    @ 69

    Keep believing it. You seem to think that voters will accept any manner of incompetence by a Democrat incumbent if the alternative is replacing that incumbent with a Republican.

    Keep believing it. Oh, and keep saying things like Wisconsin was a big win for the Democrats because they made an irrelevant gain on an undercard race. You don’t convince normal people but you might convince Rujax and perhaps Lib Sci.

    We’re counting on it.

  53. 71

    Puddybud spews:

    Meanwhile on Daily Kooks…

    I have had enough of all these holier than thou cracker-ass cracker Republicans who think the Attorney General of the motherfucking United States of America has nothing better to do than come to Congress every week like he has been summoned to the motherfucking principal’s office for another round of in-school suspension.

    Eric Holder is not your nigger…

    But where were these same kooks when Alberto Gonzalez was the first his panic attorney general? They went went went nutzo! They were pizzed that Bush named a his panic to the post! They claimed Gonzalez was the political arm for Bush. And now Holder isn’t?

    Cry me a river!

  54. 72

    Puddybud spews:

    Anybody-But-A-Republican vote is huge.

    Not this year Roger Dumb Wabbit.

    It’s the economy stupid!

  55. 73

    Puddybud spews:

    motherfucking United States of America

    Come to think about it… was that a rujax sighting on daily kooks?

    Writes like rujax…

    Sounds like rujax…

    Condescending like rujax…

    An idiot like rujax…

  56. 74

    Don Joe spews:

    @ 22

    A woman choosing to work for a Catholic employer should be made to realize that the benefits of her employment will not include abortion or birth control services, yes.

    First of all, the issue isn’t about birth control services. It’s really about access to birth control pills, because birth control pills happen to be an effective treatment for a number of female ailments including ovarian cysts, endometriosis and premenstrual dysphoric disorder (PMDD), that have nothing to do with birth control itself.

    Second, a Catholic employer isn’t obligated to provide health care benefits any more than a woman is obligated to work for a Catholic employer. Yet, according to your formulation of the issue, should the laws regarding health coverage treat Catholic employers differently than any other employers, it would violate neither the establishment of religion nor the equal protection clauses in our Constitution.

    Looks to me like your Constitutional argument is bullshit designed to cover up the basic idea that employers are supposed to have all the freedoms, not employees. In that respect, you are typically conservative. You should be proud of yourself.

  57. 75

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @70 “incompetence by a Democrat incumbent”

    What incompetence? Obama backstabbed his supporters, but he isn’t incompetent. He turned around the Republican Economic Disaster (TM) within months — in case you haven’t noticed, we’re growing now, whereas nearly every other country in the world is slowing down or going into recession. Our banks are much more solvent now than in 2007, and better regulated. He saved the U.S. auto industry. He got us out of Iraq and we’re winding down in Afghanistan. He killed Osama bin Laden and numerous other top terrorist leaders, and Al Qaeda is all but dismantled now. He got Romneycare through Congress, something that Republican and Democratic presidents alike hadn’t been able to do for half a century. And he did all that despite the ruthless obstructionism of an unpatriotic opposition party that puts his defeat above the good of our country. You call this guy “incompetent”? You’re either an idiot or a liar, or both.

  58. 76

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @72 “It’s the economy stupid!”

    Insert “Republican” between “the” and “economy” and you’ve got it, Snake-Eyes.

  59. 77

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @70 “We’re”

    We? You mean there’s still more than one of you left in this country, despite everything?

  60. 78

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @74 re 22: “the basic idea that employers are supposed to have all the freedoms, not employees”

    We liberals don’t allow employers to discriminate against racial minorities, we’ve enacted laws prohibiting that, and we’re not going to let them discriminate against women, either. No matter who those employers are.

    Let’s be clear about something: The Catholic Church is a business. Yes, it’s a church and a religion, too, but society has as much right to regulate how the Church runs its business operations as it does other businesses. The Catholic Church isn’t allowed to engage in insider stock trading. It can’t run ponzi schemes. It can’t violate health and safety laws. So where the fuck does this idea come from that the Church, as an employer, can discriminate against its female employees in a way no other employer is allowed to? That’s horseshit.

    No one is saying the Catholic Church has to hire female priests or bishops, or that Catholic hospitals have to offer abortions. We are saying their priests and bishops can’t rape altar boys. We are saying Church-owned vehicles driven by priests and bishops have to obey the same traffic laws that apply to all other motorists, We are saying this nation’s employment laws apply to their secular business operations. They’re not above the law just because they’re a church.

  61. 79

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @73 “Condescending”

    We should be condescending to you jerks. You’re a bunch of authoritarian assholes who, despite all your bleating about “freedom,” want to be dictators over everyone else. You’re a criminal gang of looters who take everything that isn’t nailed down. You’re corrupt, hypocritical, lying, draft-dodging, dishonest, perverted exploiters. Consider yourself lucky we merely sneer and look down on you. You deserve a lot worse. Hey, do you guys get a feeling we don’t like you?

  62. 80

    Don Joe spews:

    @78

    Roger, you’re still arguing against the merits, when the merits aren’t the real issue. In a conservative world, the only people who truly have rights are people who own things. Markets are supposed to be free, and they’re willing to put people in jail in order to make that happen.

    If you actually work for a living, then voting for a Republican means losing your freedom. It’s as simple as that.

  63. 81

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @80 I quit voting for Republicans 40 years ago. There are already enough dictators in this world.

  64. 82

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    A tortoise pair is splitting up after 115 years together. After one bit a chunk from the other’s shell, zookeepers separated them, and reconciliation doesn’t look to be in the cards. I guess that relationship simply wore out. Spend enough time with someone else and sooner or later s/he’s bound to get on your nerves.

  65. 83

    Puddybud spews:

    Clown Joe writes about merits

    Roger, you’re still arguing against the merits, when the merits aren’t the real issue

    talking to Roger the DUMB Wabbit

    Insert “Republican” between “the” and “economy” and you’ve got it, Snake-Eyes.

    Wrong again DUMB Wabbit… Let’s review the facts from the DNC mouthpiece herself… And I realize listening and comprehending are beyond your years so…

    “We own the economy. We own the beginning of the turnaround and we want to make sure that we continue that pace of recovery, not go back to the policies of the past under the Bush administration that put us in the ditch in the first place.”

    Remember back in 2010 Obummer told everyone on Planet Earth his policies were turning the economy around.

    So based on the merits of this Roger DUMB Wabbit argument like others promulgated before… EPIC FAYLE!

  66. 84

    Politically Incorrect - who has been banned over at soundpolitics.com spews:

    A few years ago, I wathced a show where the talking head was complaining about high school girls at a local school wearing some buttons that said “I Love My Vagaina.” I think it had something to do with some play called “The Vagina Monologues.” Anyway, the taking head was getting all indignant about it and basically making an ass of himself.

    I had to laugh becasue the solution for the local high school that was the subject of this piece could have ealily made those “I Love My Vagina” buttons dissappear. All the school officials had to do was choose about five or six of the nerdiest boys in the school and give them buttons that said “I Love Your Vagina, Too!” to wear to class. Those “I Love My Vagina” buttons would have disappeared faster than a peperoni pizza as a Weight Watchers’ convention!

    Sometimes the solution to a problem is easy and funny at the same time.

  67. 85

    Puddybud spews:

    We should be condescending to you jerks. You’re a bunch of authoritarian assholes who, despite all your bleating about “freedom,” want to be dictators over everyone else.

    It’s DUMMOCRAPTS who claim the authoritarian way… “Government is the answer”!

    We say “Government is NOT the answer”! “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: I’m from the government and I’m here to help.”

  68. 86

    Don Joe spews:

    @ 83

    Remember back in 2010 [President Obama] told everyone on Planet Earth his policies were turning the economy around.

    Not that anyone would want to, you know, look at the actual data, but that’s precisely what happened.

  69. 87

    Politically Incorrect - who has been banned over at soundpolitics.com spews:

    @85,

    BOTH Dems and Reps want to control our lives and limit our freedoms. Get that through your head, Pudd-whacker!!

  70. 88

    Don Joe spews:

    @87

    BOTH Dems and Reps want to control our lives and limit our freedoms.

    True. The problem is, Republicans lie about it; c.f. Bob’s bogus argument about religious freedom.

  71. 89

    Politically Incorrect - who has been banned over at soundpolitics.com spews:

    @88,

    You’re correct: that’s why I’m not a Rep. I’m not a Dem either.

  72. 90

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @85 Bullshit. We use government to build up society for everyone — and to keep self-serving pricks from abusing the rest of us. There’s a reason by we have consumer protection laws, laws against racial discrimination and sexual harassment, laws against fraud and false advertising, etc. — we need them to protect us from people who are so morally deficient they can’t tell the difference between “freedom” and criminal licentiousness.

  73. 91

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    The immediate constitutional question for the Supreme Court is whether Congress can pass a law requiring cheapskates to buy their own damn health insurance instead of freeloading off the rest of us. We should have an answer within the next 10 days.

  74. 93

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Great Mother Rabbit Spirit, spare us from Republican morality police who tell us we can’t use medical terms to describe body parts while hitting on little boys during their off hours.

  75. 94

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    What are Michigan’s republicans going to do next — require women to wear burkas? Maybe they think if they turn their state into a mini-Saudi Arabia, oil will come up from the ground, like it does in Saudi Dakota?

  76. 95

    Michael spews:

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof…

    Which is why we should have one law that treats everyone that receives federal dollars the same. No special treatment for certain churches.

    The Catholic Church wants the government to give them preferential treatment.

  77. 96

    Cereal Bob spews:

    re 31: “Fifty-two percent of independents said they agreed with the idea that the president has not helped create more jobs in America, an argument central to Romney’s campaign.”

    But …………… In 2010, Republicans were given a majority in the congress for the express purpose of creating jobs. Do you know of a poll that measures what ‘independents’ think about the Republican Congress?

  78. 97

    Steve spews:

    @68 “All you HA-types who claim that voters in Benton Harbor have lost their rights to vote”

    Dumbfuck Nazi-type, you might try acknowledging that you fascists are fighting this tooth and nail. You even tried “the font’s too small” in an attempt to take voting rights away from Michigan’s citizens.

  79. 98

    Michael spews:

    “All you HA-types who claim that voters in Benton Harbor have lost their rights to vote

    Um… I don’t even know where that is…

  80. 99

    Michael spews:

    No nun that I ever knew would say, “Fuck You.” Certainly not to the President.

    One of my aunts was a nun and you’d never hear say anything of the sort to anyone.

  81. 101

    Michael spews:

    Here’s Jim Stamas email address just incase anyone wants to send him an email letting him know how they feel about his banning Rep. Lisa Brown from speaking because she said vagina.

    JimStamas@house.mi.gov

  82. 102

    Smilin' spews:

    Check out the RealClearPolitics take on the Battle for the Senate. They show it 47-45 Democrats with 8 toss-ups..
    http://www.realclearpolitics.c.....e_map.html

    Here are the 8 toss-ups–
    FL: Nelson (D)
    MA: Brown (R)
    MO: McCaskill (D)
    MT: Tester (D)
    NV: Heller (R)
    ND: Open (D)
    VA: Open (D)
    WI: Open (D)

    I can see this ending up 50-50.
    R’s will win Mo., MT, ND & WI….and perhaps NV.

    The other races could be real tight.
    I think the Obama Fatigue..seeing this dipshit make empty speech after empty speech will drag the Dems down in these close races.
    Obama is such a sick bastard, he actually believes he can say one thing, do the opposite and voters will still believe him.
    Hardly.
    It’s the economy stupid.
    And when Obama recently said the Private Sector was “FINE”, that will spell doom for him as completely out of touch.
    Doom.

  83. 103

    spews:

    Bob,
    Two things.

    1. Use a single screen name in any given comment thread.

    2. These comment threads are for discussion. You may excerpt a small portion of another author’s work. But to be compliant with fair use and the comment policy, please provide some discussion relevant to the copied material. That is, don’t copy somebody else’s material without discussion (exception: something that closely ties in with previous comments may be acceptable).

    Thanks for your cooperation!

  84. 104

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @102 Evidently you don’t know very much about Montana or Wisconsin. I wouldn’t bet against McCaskill in Missouri either.

    “Obama is such a sick bastard, he actually believes he can say one thing, do the opposite and voters will still believe him.”

    Cross out “Obama” and insert “Romney” and you’ve defined this campaign. Even Republicans don’t trust Romney, and that’s going to be a big problem for him all the way to November.

  85. 105

    Michael spews:

    1. Use a single screen name in any given comment thread.

    I’ve been wondering how many of our new people were really just one person.

  86. 106

    Michael spews:

    Haha, bite me righties…

    http://articles.marketwatch.co.....ken-sailor
    Obama spending binge never happened

    http://www.politifact.com/trut.....-lowest-s/
    Here are the average spending increases per year in raw dollars (not adjusted for inflation) in descending order by president:
    Average percentage increase per year

    George W. Bush 10.2
    Reagan 8.6
    Obama 1.4

    Here are the results using inflation-adjusted figures:
    George W. Bush 5.9 (Bush 2)
    Reagan 2.7
    George H.W. Bush 1.8 (Bush 1)
    Clinton 1.5
    Obama -0.1
    Eisenhower -0.5

    This is, of course, old news. But, I do think it needs repeating. Over and over and over.

    It’s also why the Mitt Romney will lose next November. Because, like the lie that the Republicans are trying to pull here, Mitt Romney’s campaign is also based on lies. And just like this line in the end people will see Romney’s claims and see that they don’t match the facts on the ground. Romney’s campaign reminds of the Marx Brothers line “who are you going to believe, me or your own eyes.” In the end people will believe their own eyes.

  87. 107

    Puddybud spews:

    Not that anyone would want to, you know, look at the actual data, but that’s precisely what happened.

    So Don Joe, I am glad you agree with Puddy this is Obummer’s economy.

    Thanks for playing!

  88. 108

    Puddybud spews:

    This is, of course, old news. But, I do think it needs repeating. Over and over and over.

    And this was debunked by everyone the next week Michael. Even HA’s prime arschloch ylb isn’t touting it anymore.

    Where have you been Michael? Head up an ASS?

  89. 109

    spews:

    Michael @ 105

    I’ve been wondering how many of our new people were really just one person.

    I don’t think there is a lot of sock puppetry within comment threads. (Note that even though we prefer people use one screen name in a single comment thread, they are free to change between comment threads.)

  90. 110

    Puddybud spews:

    The Catholic Church wants the government to give them preferential treatment.

    Nope, try again Michael!

  91. 112

    Puddybud spews:

    And this is some really scary shit…

    Obama to Celebrities: ‘You’re the Ultimate Arbiter of Which Direction This Country Goes’

    I thought the Obummer was against the 1%ers. Wait a minute… Obummer only hates rich people who are against Obummer.

  92. 113

    Puddybud spews:

    More information for poor Michael!

    Recall, however, that in 2008 Congress was controlled by Democrat majorities, with Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House, and the restless Senator Obama already running for President, just four years removed from his glorious career as a state Senator in the Illinois legislature. As Hans Bader reported on May 26 for the Washington Examiner, the budget approved and implemented by Pelosi, Obama and the rest of the Congressional Democrat majorities provided for a 17.9 percent increase in spending for fiscal 2009!

    Actually, President Obama and the Democrats were even more deeply involved in the fiscal 2009 spending explosion than that. As Bader also reports, “The Democrat Congress [in 2008], confident Obama was going to win in 2008, passed only three of fiscal 2009’s 12 appropriations bills (Defense, Military Construction and Veterans Affairs, and Homeland Security). The Democrat Congress passed the rest of them [in 2009], and [President] Obama signed them.” So Obama played a very direct role in the runaway fiscal 2009 spending explosion.

    PuddyEmphasis!

    So Michael, Rex Nutting’s work is nutty! Truth smacks a libtardo side their head!

  93. 114

    Puddybud spews:

    Obama Amnesty Plan: catch an illegal, release an illegal, hope they illegally Vote DUMMOCRAPT!

  94. 116

    proud leftist spews:

    Puddy,
    Why do you so fervently embrace dumb? You were born better than that. You chose idiocy. Why?

  95. 117

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    On March 23, 1944, two young white girls in South Carolina disappeared while riding their bicycles. They were found bludgeoned to death by a heavy wooden beam the next morning.

    Within hours after the bodies were found, police arrested a 14-year-old black boy named George Stinney, who was 5’1″ tall, weighed 90 lbs., and was incapable of lifting the beam that killed the girls.

    George was placed in a locked room with several police officers and confessed within an hour.

    George Stinney’s trial on April 24, 1944, lasted two hours. His court-appointed attorney did not put up a defense. The jury deliberated for 10 minutes before finding him guilty. His lawyer refused to file an appeal because his family couldn’t pay legal fees.

    On June 16, 1944, George Kinney was strapped into South Carolina’s electric chair and put to death.

    This sort of thing doesn’t happen in America anymore, because we liberals fought against it. We liberals fought for fair trials, competent public defenders, and automatic appeals in death cases. We liberals fought against coerced confessions, racial discrimination in jury selection, and executing children.

    For this puddy, a black man who enjoys all the things we liberals fought for, calls us “libtardos.”

    What have you ever done to make this a better country, puddy? All I’ve ever seen you do is shoot your mouth off.

  96. 118

    Puddybud spews:

    Proud leftist,

    We see the outcome of 3.5 years of stupid. So why do you continue to support stupid?

  97. 119

    Puddybud spews:

    Roger,

    While you present George Stinney as anecdotal evidence of “liberals” God will tell us if George did it. And if he did, what will you say?

    Because if he didn’t God makes all things right! So brag onward about how you libtards are so great. I don’t see libtardo greatness in libtard led cities!

  98. 120

    spews:

    ylb isn’t touting it anymore.

    That Obama isn’t a big spender?? It’s a fact..

    Really, what has he spent big on??

    Any new wars?

    Any new big tax cuts for the rich?

    Any new “free stuff” for seniors or big pharma?

    Tell me right wing dings? What’s he spent really big on? Not much I can see beyond repaired bridges, roads, reservoirs – stuff we need. Stuff that barely makes a dent in the backlog of crumbling infrastructure..

  99. 122

    Serial Conservative spews:

    @ 120

    I heard he spent big on a bunch ‘o used cars and just junked them. Took perfectly good vehicles that the less wealthy use for their transportation needs, pulled them off the market, raised the prices of the used cars still out there due to a reduced supply of them, and the proceeds of what he did largely went to Toyota and Honda.

    I heard he spent big on giveaways to first-time homebuyers. This enticed a lot of young people to buy into a still-falling real estate market, and now even more Americans are underwater in their homes than would be the case if he had just left the fuck alone and let the market sort itself out after a real estate bubble.

    I heard he put a lot of money into ‘shovel-ready’ projects that weren’t shovel-ready or anywhere close to it. The number of repairs you claim to see is far fewer than promised. I do see sidewalks in my area of the Sound which were built with ARRA money. It’s not where I would have put them but the money had to be spent and there wasn’t time for rational thought. Much of that money is unspent and the GOP has tried to claw it back, but once you give a handout to a government entity, that money is toast.

    Obama gave a lot of money to states, which enabled states to paper over their own problems and essentially ignore them for another year or two, which only made their problems worse when the shit finally hit the fan and the feds weren’t there with another big basket ‘o free money. Our problems in WA were magnified by the additional year of idiocy that free money permitted, before the tap was turned off and our legislators had to start acting like adults.

    I heard a lot of ‘green’ jobs were created. Most of them were re-classified non-green jobs but he had a quota to meet, or lie about. This enriched an awful lot of friends and family, according to testimony of the IG, but didn’t do much for the economy. It DID give Romney a great press event opportunity a couple of weeks ago in front of that big, new, now-useless Solyndra building, and I’m grateful to The One for providing him that.

    Want me to go on, YLB?

  100. 123

    spews:

    122 – Please do…

    Uhh.. Last I looked, it was a pretty good idea for government to buy stuff in the face of the economy falling through the floor..

    What was the right wing solution to that? More tax cuts? Obama did some of those too as I recall.

    And when the economy started recovering the latter part of 2009???

    What new “big spending” then Bob?

    Oh Solyndra! Wow Bob! Remember the 1.5 billion dollar “Freedom Car”??? What came of that?

  101. 125

    spews:

    Obama gave a lot of money to states,

    Like Texas with their vaunted economic miracle..

    Since when is aid to the states such a crime?

    Since R-Money’s latest gaffe on fewer teachers, firefighters and cops?

  102. 128

    Serial Conservative spews:

    @ 123

    FreedomCAR, you must mean. Well, I’m guessing the A123 company learned something from the research they did with the money received because they’re still making batteries, and they’re making them for Fisker, which also has been receiving money from the Obama administration. Money to manufacture automobiles somewhere other than the US, it’s turning out.

    Money also went to GE and to Johnson Controls to fund battery research.

    There probably are not hundreds of cars out there directly resulting from the FreedomCAR program but maybe there are and I don’t know about it.

    I suppose my point is that there was a lot of public/private cooperation related to the FreedomCAR venture and a lot of that is still ongoing, even though the original program has morphed as technologies have changed, new discoveries have been made, old ideas discarded in favor of new, etc.

    I suppose, YLB, you may need it pointed out to you that there was no huge half-billion dollar loss on that program because the federal government handed money to a crony, and then took a back seat to another crony in the event of bankrupty so that a failing venture could be funded for a few more months. This is why your apparent comparison between Solyndra and FreedomCAR is a nonstarter.

    Nice try, but you ended up looking like an idiot. Again.

  103. 129

    Serial Conservative spews:

    @ 123

    Buying stuff is useful if it’s not STUPID stuff.

    @ 124

    Then the money should have been allocated only to US-manufactured vehicles. Prius is not made in the US. In general, handing money to foreign corporations in order to benefit the US is less useful than handing it to US corporations.

    @ 125

    It was not criminal but it enabled states to spend stupidly for another year. Putting off the pain usually ends up making the eventual pain greater. Things that cannot go on forever, don’t.

  104. 130

    Puddybud spews:

    Notice how HA’s arschoch-in-chief ylb still dwells on GW Bush? Bush Derangement Syndrome.

    Wait for it he’ll post ODS or some other useless crapola. What he forgets is Obummer is still in da whitey house.

    Serial Conservative, what does HA’s arschoch-in-chief ylb know about purchasing power? His wife provides his while he’s at home all day cruising left-wrong sites.

  105. 131

    Puddybud spews:

    Now it seems Obummer’s sadministration leaked Friday’s underaged latino announcement to the NY Times and Time Magazine beforehand. So we can see the Slimes is the administration mouthpiece.

  106. 132

    Serial Conservative spews:

    @ 130

    I am beginning to think that when he asked what’s wrong with handing money to states @ 125 he probably had in mind some handout that he gets as a result of all that free money that ultimately is paid for by someone else, but I don’t know him well enough to be sure, and the allegations about what he does, or doesn’t do, during the workday are probably just allegations.

    It’s always easier to defend a stupid handout if you’re the beneficiary and not the ultimate payor.

  107. 133

    Puddybud spews:

    That Obama isn’t a big spender?? It’s a fact..

    Well here’s fact HA’s arschoch-in-chief ylb. And you already read the commentary placed in the HA DL thread from 2 weeks ago. You can lie all you want but you placed the first entry in it and was summarily handed your sorry ASS like always when you venture into kook-aid land (which is all the time). Three Pinocchios just like you are all arschloch!

    And he’s the replay you purposely forget (Puddy doesn’t) on the real spending…

    Facts, make libtard heads implode!

  108. 134

    Puddybud spews:

    and the allegations about what he does, or doesn’t do, during the workday are probably just allegations.

    Not allegations… the HA’s arschoch-in-chief ylb is on this blog all day everyday posting from left wrong sites while you and I work!

  109. 135

    Serial Conservative spews:

    It’s interesting watching the Obama administration redefine Executive Power.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballo.....-political

    Just think of all the things President Romney will be able to accomplish through the same Executive Power that Obama now claims to have. The same Executive Power that he claimed only one year ago NOT to have.

    Of course, one year ago he wasn’t quite as desperate. And his poll numbers certainly weren’t in freefall back then.

  110. 136

    Puddybud spews:

    One hundred rounds of golf and counting

    The next time President Obama hits the links, it will be his 100th round of golf since coming to the White House. That’s quite a milestone in just 3 1/2 years. As it takes him about six hours to drive to the greens and complete 18 holes, Mr. Obama has spent the equivalent of four months’ worth of work time golfing. Meanwhile, the U.S. economy has been stuck in a sand trap.

  111. 137

    spews:

    Buying stuff is useful if it’s not STUPID stuff.

    Didn’t see any of that in my neck of the woods.. I saw a crumbling bridge get replaced and a reservoir lidded. Put lots of hard hats to work for months on end…

    We needed more of that because the private sector still doesn’t see sufficient demand for their products and services to hire – in this country anyway.

  112. 139

    spews:

    Then the money should have been allocated only to US-manufactured vehicles.

    Bob YOU DIDN”T ANSWER MY QUESTION.

    Honda and Toyota manufacture vehicles in THIS COUNTRY – in right wing, right to work harder for LESS states..

    What gratitude to Obama for keeping those shlubs working!

    Hey and weren’t you the one moaning about Chrysler not being allowed to go belly up and the Chevy Volt being such a bad deal just cuz’ Faux News says so?

  113. 141

    Serial Conservative spews:

    @ 137

    I thought you pointed out the recovery @ 123. We’re doing so well, we’re told. The private sector’s doing fine. I think I heard that somewhere not too long ago.

  114. 142

    spews:

    I suppose, YLB, you may need it pointed out to you that there was no huge half-billion dollar loss on that program

    I still don’t see cars running on hydrogen in showrooms Bob.

    But I do see Chevy Volts – a car championed by a right wing GM Executive but oh so disdained by right wing ideologues taking their cues from Faux News.

  115. 143

    spews:

    thought you pointed out the recovery @ 123. We’re doing so well, we’re told. The private sector’s doing fine. I think I heard that somewhere not too long ago.

    YOU’RE GD RIGHT IT IS…

    http://www.bizjournals.com/san.....ay-at.html

    In the ONLY measure that matters to people like you Bob.

    And it will continue to do “just fine” under the degenerate rule of R-Money.

  116. 144

    Serial Conservative spews:

    @ 140

    Read your own article:

    No such aid was proposed by President Bush as part of his original $725-billion, 11-year economic growth initiative. But it was included in the Senate bill at the insistence of several key senators as the price of their support for the entire package.

    The money wasn’t intended, but was used as a payoff to get support to pass the bill.

    Seems like a bad idea at that time, and a bad idea now.

    BTW that’s a Senate Finance Committee action, YLB. Since you provided the link, can you find out if it actually made it into the final bill, or even past the full Senate?

  117. 145

    Serial Conservative spews:

    @ 142

    You’re digging your hole ever-deeper, YLB. FreedomCAR was part of a huge, ongoing DOE program intended to discover new technologies to wean us off of fossil fuel dependence. The program is still ongoing, and is still being funded, and there are many private partners, universities, and government agencies. FreedomCAR is one small part. No, hydrogen fuels aren’t out there yet. But there is still ongoing research, so it hasn’t been discarded.

    This is way, WAY different from the Obama administration handing a very large amount of money to the corporation of a major campaign donor, and then deciding to take a back seat to another major campaign donor so that rescue funds could be provided, even though the Treasury was opposed to the rescue. It had already been determined that the venture would fail and yet the Obama administration allowed itself to be put in the position of losing even more money.

    The two concepts – FreedomCAR and Solyndra – have virtually nothing in common with each other.

    On Sundays do you keep your head entirely up your ass, or do you pull it out once in awhile to breathe, YLB?

  118. 146

    spews:

    The moron @ 133 still hasn’t answered my question. What has he spent so much on?

    Well I’ll answer one part of it for him. Obama escalated the war in Afghanistan after Bush was out-smarted by the Iraqis into withdrawing from that debacle.

    The Pentagon wanted more war-fighting.. Now Obama is fighting wars the way Rummy wanted to with fancy drone aircraft and other high tech strategies like snooping data centers in Utah..

    Oh and he sees China flexing their muscle so now he wants to beef up stuff in the Pacific.

    Wow what a peacenik that Obama.

  119. 148

    spews:

    The two concepts – FreedomCAR and Solyndra – have virtually nothing in common with each other.

    Spin, spin, spin…

    I see no Solyndra solar panels.. Cost 500 million..

    I see no hydrogen fueled cars. Cost 1.5 billion.

    Only measure that matters to the man in the street Bob.. One with a memory anyway.

  120. 149

    Puddybud spews:

    Really, what has he spent big on??

    This dipshit can’t read… I already provided the information and he needs to see his pictures (pink hair, outstretched arms) every few posts. But you claimed

    That Obama isn’t a big spender?? It’s a fact..

    That fact exploded by your own words. Now you notice how he turns in #146.

    Flip flop the HA arschloch!

  121. 150

    spews:

    147 – I love how the favorite right wing put down is to assign female characteristics to their adversaries.

    I hope the women out there are paying attention.

  122. 151

    Puddybud spews:

    Of course the idiot @148 can’t blame that on Romney! That feckless attack fell down when it was determined the $1.5 Million was appropriated by the previous MA governor’s administration!

  123. 152

    spews:

    149 – Doubles (triples, quadruples) down on not naming what Obama has spent big on.

    Any new wars???

    Any handouts to Big Pharma or whatever disguised as a benefit to seniors?

    Any new tax cuts for the rich??

  124. 153

    spews:

    The money wasn’t intended, but was used as a payoff to get support to pass the bill.

    Oh my gosh! Republicans making deals! What principles!

    Should have been a lesson to Obama about the first-time homebuyers tax credit – Johnny Isakson’s idea.

  125. 155

    Serial Conservative spews:

    @ 153

    Yeah, I guess the Democrat-controlled House, the Democrat-controlled Senate, and the Democrat president were just bystanders. Before all the changes at all levels that went into the final bill, it was someone else’s idea.

    We’ll blame that MoFo.

    At least you’re consistent, YLB. It’s always someone else’s fault, isn’t it?

  126. 156

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @119 “God will tell us if George did it. And if he did, what will you say?”

    So your answer is, “Let God sort ‘em out” and “well, maybe he was guilty” … ?

    This has to rank as one of your most asinine posts of all time.

  127. 157

    spews:

    154 – Don’t care much for Bill Maher’s schtick.

    Remember his old show “Politically Incorrect”??

    I thought you right wingers were all in favor of that.

  128. 158

    Serial Conservative spews:

    @ 156

    I’m sure there is no one on HA more familiar with asinine posts than Roger Rabbit.

    I mean, none of us come anywhere close to his level of personal experience in penning them.

  129. 159

    Michael spews:

    Mitt Romney on global warming:

    http://articles.latimes.com/20.....y-20120613
    Before doing an about-face toward the end of his term as he began to prepare for his first run for president, Romney pushed to close old coal-fired plants, encourage the development of renewable energy and contain sprawl — steps similar to some President Obama has taken.

    Indeed, one of Romney’s top environmental staffers, Gina McCarthy, now runs the air pollution unit of the Environmental Protection Agency under Obama. John Holdren, a scientist Romney turned to on at least one occasion to discuss climate change, is the White House senior advisor on science and technology issues.

    Will the real Mitt Romney please stand up.

  130. 160

    spews:

    155 – *Palm slaps heads* You right wing fools still do this..

    Obama never had any kind of captive majority.. Not like LBJ, not like FDR.

    Arlen Spector was his 60th vote??? Joe Lieberman???

  131. 161

    Puddybud spews:

    Roger DUMB Wabbit,

    There are Internet posts on both sides of the issue. Things that far in the past are God’s purview now. BTW weren’t those DUMMOCRAPTS who put little George away?

  132. 162

    Puddybud spews:

    Arlen Spector was his 60th vote??? Joe Lieberman???

    What a DUMB ASS. Al Franken was his 60th vote.

    Such a feckless arschloch all day every day!

  133. 163

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @128 I hate to tell you this, but it’s you who looks like an idiot.

    Basically you’re saying investments that work out are fine, but investments that fail aren’t fine. Great, most of us would agree with that.

    Now maybe you could explain why a failed government investment is worse than a failed private investment?

  134. 164

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @158 Haven’t had your first cup of coffee yet, I see. Do you have a clue what puddy and I are arguing about? It looks like you knee-jerked that response.

  135. 165

    spews:

    Al Franken was his 60th vote.

    What a moron! Yeah and Joe Lieberman, a tool of big insurance, was a big cheerleader for the public option.

    Could any right winger be more stupid?

    Enough of this for one day.

  136. 166

    Serial Conservative spews:

    @ 160

    YLB, stop it. You have reached the point of complete idiocy.

    History, man.

    Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) parried GOP assaults on Democrats’ $825 billion stimulus package Thursday and refused to slow the bill down to give more time for Republican input.
    “Yes, we wrote the bill. Yes we won the election, but that doesn’t mean we don’t want sustainability or Republican support,” Pelosi said.
    But the Speaker showed little room for compromising the overall direction of the package, saying: “We’re going in a new direction because the direction the Republicans have taken us has led us to this brink.”

    http://www.rollcall.com/news/-31650-1.html

    Your side owns it, completely.

    Do you realize you have gone, in very short order, from cheerleading some of the results of ARRA @ 120 to apparently now whining @ 160 that it’s not your fault because you weren’t in complete control?

    Read what Pelosi said. Of COURSE you were in complete control.

    Obama will be judged on three things:

    1. Effectiveness of the ARRA stimulus, relative to the amount of money spent.
    2. Obamacare.
    3. The economic recovery, or absence thereof.

    This is how it should be.

    It’s why you are flailing to blame someone else. Poorly, very poorly.

    You are heading into Rujax territory. Stop digging, YLB.

  137. 167

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @159 “Will the real Mitt Romney please stand up.”

    There isn’t one. This guy is pure smoke and mirrors.

  138. 168

    Puddybud spews:

    Democrats now control the United States Senate 60-40. With Al Franken coming on board as Minnesota’s Senator. [Politico]

    Democrats will now hold a 60-40 majority in the Senate, the largest the party has enjoyed in a generation. Sixty votes are needed to break filibusters, ensuring that if Democrats stay united they would be able to cleave the GOP’s last lever of power in Washington. A Franken “yes” vote on health reform, climate change legislation and Supreme Court nominee Sonia Sotomayor gives Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) even more of a margin for error on these major votes.

    Now, at last, perhaps the Senate will get on with healthcare reform, including a public option, which I hope is single-payer. Now, if we could only get all 60 of those Democratic Senators to come together and start representing us Democrats rather than representing Corporate America.

    As always HA’s arschoch-in-chief ylb is so easily proven wrong!

  139. 169

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @161 There are two sides to this issue? Really? Someone still defends railroading a 14-year-old boy to the electric chair?

    Puddy, if you can’t see what’s wrong with executing a kid after a 2-hour trial followed by a 10-minute jury deliberation, you have more wrong with you than being dense. Get help.

  140. 171

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Oh, btw pudkins, those southern racists are the property of YOUR party now. You own their legacy as well. That came with the adoption papers.

  141. 172

    Serial Conservative spews:

    @ 163

    Because there is a difference between what you do with your own money and what the government does with money after it takes it from you.

    Is there any recognition on your part that that what belongs to you does not belong to the government? I fail to see how you realize that.

  142. 173

    Serial Conservative spews:

    @ 168, 170

    Franken was not seated until well after ARRA.

    GOP Senate votes to end debate and move the bill to final vote were:

    Collins
    Snowe
    Specter

  143. 174

    Puddybud spews:

    YLB, stop it. You have reached the point of complete idiocy.

    Nope, he reached that point back in 2005. He’s just “living the dream”.

  144. 175

    Puddybud spews:

    Puddy, if you can’t see what’s wrong with executing a kid after a 2-hour trial followed by a 10-minute jury deliberation, you have more wrong with you than being dense. Get help.

    Roger DUMB Wabbit, DUMMOCRAPTS in action. Yes, DUMMOCRAPTS are WRONG WRONG WRONG… since their eugenics thoughts with Margaret Sanger (Planned Parenthood founder), Oliver Wendell Holmes – AJOTSC, KKK members and today’s morons in action!

  145. 176

    Serial Conservative spews:

    @ 159

    Michael, did you notice that there are no examples in your link that discuss how Romney’s current positions differ from those he held while in office as MA governor?

  146. 177

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @175 Finally came around, did you? Most of us wouldn’t need more than a microsecond to realize George Stinney was a lynching victim.

  147. 180

    Liberal Scientist is a a dirty fucking hippie spews:

    I love watching Roger make puddles sputter and spin…

  148. 181

    Serial Conservative spews:

    @ 178

    No, clown. Scroll up.

    Yes, elections have consequences and Franken is one of them. This year, the pendulum swings back, with equally great velocity.

  149. 183

    Serial Conservative spews:

    Speaking of Democrat own-goals, putting their own David Duke on a national stage fewer than five months before a presidential election can’t be good:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06.....wanted=all

    There are signs of panic among members of the Democratic establishment, who worry Mr. Barron could prove to be a headache in their ranks and an alienating figure on the national stage.

    This ain’t all the Democrats are panicking over these days.

  150. 184

    Serial Conservative spews:

    “Romney showed no signs of exhaustion despite a jam-packed opening to his bus tour. The candidate appeared before hundreds in the backyard of a historical iron furnace, the last public event of a day that included no fewer than four television interviews…”

    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/po.....-november/

    You know, today would have been a good day for President Obama to give just ONE television interview. Maybe someone could ask him a question about what he did on Friday.

  151. 186

    Puddybud spews:

    @175 Finally came around, did you? Most of us wouldn’t need more than a microsecond to realize George Stinney was a lynching victim.

    Of DUMMOCRAPTS…

    You own their legacy as well.

    How, ya idiot? Puddy wasn’t born then but you were!

    Lib da schmuck shows up and adds nothing as usual!

  152. 187

    Puddybud spews:

    “About twenty years after a conservative leaves the scene or dies, he becomes acceptable,” to the media-left. They say, if only people were more like Ronald Reagan and that wonderful libertarian curmudgeon Barry Goldwater. I worked for Bill Buckley, voted for Barry Goldwater and knew Ronald Reagan and no one talked about them on the left that way at the time.” – George Will, telling it like it is!

  153. 188

    Michael spews:

    @176

    Michael, did you notice that there are no examples in your link that discuss how Romney’s current positions differ from those he held while in office as MA governor?

    According to the story I linked to:

    Before doing an about-face toward the end of his term as he began to prepare for his first run for president, Romney pushed to close old coal-fired plants, encourage the development of renewable energy and contain sprawl — steps similar to some President Obama has taken.

    Do you not know what an about face is?

    Also according to the story I linked to:

    In a March op-ed, he wrote that instead of backing “real energy,” Obama pushed renewables such as wind and solar power. Romney has called for amending the Clean Air Act so that the EPA could not regulate greenhouse gas emissions like carbon dioxide — a move his critics say would allow politicians, not scientists, to determine what is a pollutant.

    Are you so ill informed that you do not know what Romney’s and the current policies of Republican Party towards global warming are?

  154. 189

    Michael spews:

    Way to go Mitt “can’t say it” Romney.

    BRUNSWICK, Ohio (AP) — Mitt Romney in an interview aired Sunday repeatedly refused to say that he would overturn President Barack Obama’s new policy allowing some young illegal immigrants to stay in the United States. He claimed Obama’s decision was political, while senior White House adviser David Plouffe said the move wasn’t motivated by politics.
    The Republican presidential candidate was asked three times in an interview on CBS’ “Face the Nation” whether he would overturn the executive order issued Friday if he’s elected in the fall. He refused to directly answer.
    http://www.google.com/hostedne.....4ca9119201

    The guy has no principles what so ever.

    But, here’s the thing: If Romney had come out loud and proud right from the beginning about his record of what he did as Governor me and a lot of other folks would be reconsidering* our support of Barack “least bad option” Obama. Romney’s fucking napalmed that option.

    *I’d probably still have gone with Obama, but I would have had to think about it. I probably would have chosen Huntsman over Obama.

  155. 190

    Serial Conservative spews:

    @ 188

    So before he wanted to close old coal-fired power plants and now he objects to the EPA regulating carbon dioxide, and you find those to be conflicting?

    I am sure he still wants to close old coal-fired power plants, but he wants them replaced with cleaner ones, or upgrade to cleaner technology if they are not closed, without having to deal with all the shit that the EPA has heaped on getting an upgrade or a new plant online.

    And insofar as carbon dioxide regulation is concerned, the EPA has been out of control on an awful lot, and coal is responsible for 50% of our power output as a nation, but only 40% of the CO2 output. Right now the ability to replace that power output doesn’t exist and the new regulations preclude ANY plants from being produced.

    All this does is increase the cost of other forms of energy if it ends up boxing out coal as a power source. Since the EPA isn’t capable of acting responsibly, people who aren’t CO2 zealots are understandably concerned about what their regulations would do to the economy.

  156. 193

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @172 Let’s explore this a little further. When you hand over your money to a private corporation by buying their stock, you’re giving them permission to lose your money. But when you pay taxes, it’s compulsory, and let’s face it: Bitching about taxes and what government does with our tax money is a favorite American sport. And about as meaningful as complaining about the weather.

    Don’t like taxes? Then vote for no taxes and no government. That’s your prerogative. Don’t like helping your fellow citizens in hard times like we have now? Then vote Republican, they’ll spend your money on killing foreigners instead of food stamps. But if the majority of voters doesn’t agree with you, then you still have to pay taxes anyway. That’s how our system works, and it works the same for folks on our side — we have to pay for your wars.

    I fundamentally disagree with the philosophy you expressed in your comment. Free markets and private companies have their place, but they’re not the solution to everything. Some things that aren’t profitable should be done anyway, like bringing schools, paved roads, electricity, and postal delivery to farm country that isn’t populated enough to pay for those things themselves. We urbanites subsidize it because we think they’re important. Most basic medical research is done with government and nonprofit funding, because it isn’t commercially profitable, but where would we be without it? And not a few of the technologies that now form the backbone of our private economy got started with seed money from taxpayers.

    You’re a simpleton whose vision can’t see past his own nose. In a shaded world you insist on seeing everyhing as black or white: Private good; public bad. This is junior high school thinking, chum. It marks you as someone with a 12-year-old mind.

    I’m disinclined to let people like you run the world if I can help it.

  157. 194

    Michael spews:

    @190

    Before Romney was “the radical in the room” when it came to global warming. Now it’s this:

    “My view is that we don’t know what’s causing climate change on this planet. And the idea of spending trillions and trillions of dollars to try to reduce CO2 emissions is not the right course for us

    Here’s Romney in 2010:

    “I believe that climate change is occurring.… I also believe that human activity is a contributing factor

    Sorry, but your boy’s all over the map on all sorts of issues.

  158. 195

    Michael spews:

    I know what you are getting at but if all we know is what Obama says he’s going to do but we haven’t seen it yet, is it already time to hold Romney’s feet to the fire over it?

    It’s more than reasonable to ask Romney what he thinks about what Obama is planing on doing. It’s the fact that Romney’s all over the map and can’t come up with a succinct answer for anything that’s the issue.

  159. 196

    Michael spews:

    “I believe that climate change is occurring.… I also believe that human activity is a contributing factor

    And if he believes this he’s way out of step with the Republican power structure.

  160. 197

    Michael spews:

    On coal, the governor who once stood in front of a Massachusetts coal-fired power plant and said, “that plant kills people,” recently whirled through Craig, Colo., talking up coal and accusing President Obama of making it “harder to get coal out of the ground.”
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06.....ketch.html

    Here’s more. But, whatever.

  161. 201

    Smilin' spews:

    It’s interesting kicking around issues, but the Presidential Race really comes down to a few states. As Darryl points out, it’s about the Electoral College.
    Here is the RealClearPolitics Electoral Map still showing it 221-170 for Obama with the balance toss-ups.
    http://www.realclearpolitics.c.....e_map.html

    Here are the remaining “toss-ups”
    Arizona (11)
    Colorado (9)
    Florida (29)
    Iowa (6)
    Michigan (16)
    Missouri (10)
    Nevada (6)
    New Hampshire (4)
    North Carolina (15)
    Ohio (18)
    Virginia (13)
    Wisconsin (10)

    Romney must carry Ohio & Florida.
    IF he does and also carries state he is currently leading Mo, NC & AZ..

    That means Obama must get 49 out of these remaining states
    Colorado (9)
    Iowa (6)
    Michigan (16)
    Nevada (6)
    Virginia (13)
    Wisconsin (10)

    Obama is clearly ahead in MI, NV & NH. That would be 26.
    He needs 23 out of CO, IA, VA & WI.
    Va and WI would get him to exactly 270.
    That’s all he needs.

    IF he loses WI, he would need BOTH Iowa and CO.

    Interesting, huh?

    Romney has a lot of work to do…but unless some more states come into play, it’s pretty clear where he must focus and what Obama must defend.

  162. 203

    Puddybud spews:

    Ahhh yes, more fact checking on Obummer’s main male mouthpiece… 100 rounds and counting.

    “you cite these statistics that say the economy is improving, you almost do political damage to yourself.”

  163. 205

    Smilin' spews:

    Puddy–
    Obama has no momentum going into the election season. His endless speeches do not have the effect they did in 2008 when few knew the guy and his sparse record wasn’t vetted. Obama got a free pass in 2008. Now he has a record to run against. Babbling about Hope & Change and class warfare ain’t gettin’ it done, is it?

    http://www.realclearpolitics.c.....-1044.html

    You can see Obama stuck at 46-48% Approval with slightly more disapproving. It appears most Americans (and non-Americans who somehow manage to vote) have made up their minds.
    The only thing Obama can do is to move to the Right quickly on the Economy like Clinton did.
    Not sure if he is willing to do that being the hardcore Marxist Ideologue that he is.
    We’ll see.
    There is panic & desperation…and lots of Democrat in-fighting going on.
    I love the idea of a portrait of Carter & Obama together with a by-line “2 Complete Failures”