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Young Turks: Right-wing elementary school cuisine bizarre freak-out.

The War on Christmas:

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Jon on the new go-to-jail-with-no-trial bill.

Corporate Personhood, Corporate Speech:

Young Turks: Blackwater asks for Sharia law?!?

White House: West Wing Week.

Greenman: It isn’t about the “hockey stick”:

Thom with some more Good, Bad, and Very, Very Ugly.

Obama speaks on the economy.

Rockbottomcookie: The gay homophobes.

The Republican Primary Asylum:

Sam Seder: Republicans to the unemployed, “Go pee in a cup”.

Thom with The Good, the Bad, and the Very, Very ugly.

“Behind the scenes” at Moveon.org.

Sam Seder: George W. Bush cancels trip to Switzerland over fears of being arrested for torture charges.

Sharpton: Rep. Dennis Baxley, sponsor of strict FL voting law, admits no widespread fraud (via HuffPo).

Bill-O’s umbrella attack (via Slog).
Obama speaks on the economy.

America Occupied:

Hanukkah at the White House.

Thom with some Good, Bad, and some Very, Very Ugly.

Stephen on corporate personhood and the S.C. referendum.

Rick Santorum oozes his way to West Wing Week.
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Young Turks: No abortions for raped military women.

Roy Zimmerman’s buy war toys for Christmas:

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Comments

  1. 2

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Obama Compares Himself To Sea Captain

    In a “60 Minutes” interview taped for tomorrow night, President Obama says reviving the economy is a “long-term project” that will take longer than one presidential term and maybe more than one president.

    He also “likened himself to a sea captain guiding a ship through a bad storm. So long as the boat is rocking and people are getting sick, he said, people will blame the captain.”

    People are going say, “You know what? A good captain would have had us in some smooth waters and sunny skies, at this point. … And I don’t control the weather. What I can control are the policies we’re putting in place ….”

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/45623473

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: I think that’s a pretty good analogy. Obama didn’t sail us into the teeth of the storm; the captains of conservative dogma did. Obama came on board at the height of the storm, kept the economic ship from foundering, and it’s still afloat. No matter how hard rightwing bullshitters try to portray him as a “failure” and a “disaster,” the fact is, the economic ship is still afloat. He deserves credit for that.

    Whenever some wingnut blowhard tries to blame the still-struggling economy on Obama just show him the “Bikini Graph” again:

    http://thepoliticalcarnival.ne.....h-returns/

    Oh, and one more thing: My stock portfolio gained 90% in 2009, Obama’s first year in office, and is higher now than it was before the 2007 crash.

  2. 4

    YellowPup spews:

    @2: If Obama really were the antidote to conservative dogma, things would have changed in a hurry during his first term.

    If over a weekend in 2008 the whole government can come together and devote full attention and more than all of its resources to saving the big banks, surely a real progressive president could have managed more than half-assed, incremental .1s percent change in four years.

  3. 5

    Michael spews:

    @4
    At a minimum we could have restored the rule of law to the financial markets and held more than just the most egregious and grandiose law breakers accountable for their actions.

  4. 6

    Michael spews:

    In This Weekend in Gun Violence, there was a domestic violence triple murder in MA Friday night, where an ex-cop mowed down his family. He was later found dead of a self inflicted gun shot wound.

    Three people were shot and killed in what police believe was a domestic dispute shortly before 7 last night in Cambridge, Cambridge police said.

    The shootings occurred on Grove Street, and it appears that the victims were shot “as part of a domestic altercation,’’ said Dan Riviello, spokesman for the Cambridge Police Department.

    Middlesex District Attorney Gerald T. Leone Jr. said last night that police were seeking John Brosnahan, 68, a retired Bedford police officer. He has lived at 161 Grove St., for several years and is considered dangerous.

    Leone said that three adults were found dead in the house with evidence of gunshot wounds and that authorities were confident that it was an instance of domestic violence. Police responded to the scene at 6:40 p.m. Brosnahan’s relationship to the victims was not revealed by authorities last night.
    http://www.bostonglobe.com/met.....story.html

  5. 8

    puddybud spews:

    Obama came on board at the height of the storm, kept the economic ship from foundering, and it’s still afloat.

    Yeah right Roger DOPEY Rabbit… The economy was a humming along and then DUMMOCRAPTS took over congress and the rest is shitty history. We’re dealing with their 4 years of failure, Jan 2007 – Jan 2011. Historical revisionism can’t change facts.

    First act of Nancy Pelosi… scream about oil amd gas! What happened to the price of gas between Jan 2007 and March 2007? Ask the HA crazed databaze deala (is that 300 times yet) ylb! I documented it for GBS the total cost of a gallon of gas! After the price of gas went skyrocketing the economy nose dived. Remember this from the AJC? No? It wasn’t on Kos-aid?

  6. 9

    Steve spews:

    Seeing as this is Darryl’s thread, maybe he’ll amuse us and use his de-coder ring to tell us WTF the self-loathing loon is babbling about now.

  7. 10

    Deathfrogg spews:

    Spuddy, Jesus. Take your fucking meds! You know you’re not supposed to smoke crack when you’ve been taking the yellow ones! You’ve been told this over and over.

    Oh well. MhPs will be along later.

  8. 12

    dutch spews:

    Actually Puddy (#8), Nancy and her ilk blessed us with a double whammy. And it was in play for longer than just starting in 2007/2008.
    First, the “affordable housing act” (starting with Clinton) created an environment where banks were forced to loan to people who couldn’t afford those mortgages (Democratics genius economists in congress assumed that house prices were always going up). When Bush and others lamented and warned about the collapse of Fannie and Freddie and the danger we were in, Bwaney Ffank and others ignored it and actually increased the pressure). This lead to the CODs and other malfeasens in the mortgage industry (does friends of Angelo mean anything :-) ).
    Then came Nancy and her cry against big bad oil, no drilling her, no drilling there etc. Oil and gas prices sky rocketed just by political crap she spouted.
    All of a sudden it became more profitable to invest in oil futures and oil assests than in mortgage assests. So people pulled their money out of mortgages and real estage investment and the already hyper inflated prices dropped more than banks and mortgage holders could handle.

    So Nancy and her ilk caused the mortgage bubble to inflate and then collapse. But of course, cause and effect is not something most people on HA have any clue about. Just blame
    Bush is all they can do.

  9. 13

    Michael spews:

    First, the “affordable housing act” (starting with Clinton) created an environment where banks were forced to loan to people who couldn’t afford those mortgages

    No one was ever forced to make a single loan and the banks lobbied for those changes. Were they stupid? Yes. But, let’s not go inventing history.

  10. 14

    Michael spews:

    Then came Nancy and her cry against big bad oil, no drilling her, no drilling there etc. Oil and gas prices sky rocketed just by political crap she spouted.

    Yeah, it was magical, it just happened, just like that. It had nothing to do with global oil supplies peaking, it had nothing to do with increased demand from India and China. It had nothing to do with oil production in Mexico starting to plummet.
    http://www.indexmundi.com/ener.....production

    http://www.theoildrum.com/files/ccst20090515.png

  11. 15

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @12 First, this assertion,

    “the ‘affordable housing act’ (starting with Clinton) created an environment where banks were forced to loan to people who couldn’t afford those mortgages (Democratics genius economists in congress assumed that house prices were always going up)”

    is false. There is no law called the “affordable housing act” passed under Clinton or any other president. Nor did the federal government force banks to loan to people who couldn’t afford to pay their mortgages.

    In 1977, while Carter was president, Congress passed a “Community Reinvestment Act” that outlawed the practice of redlining. This was an anti-discrimination law that did not require banks to write loans to specific individuals, nor did it change lending standards. It simply prohibited geography-based discrimination.

    Clinton had an “affordable housing” policy that may have contributed to loosey-goosey lending, but it was not implemented through an act of Congress, nor did it force lenders to make specific loans to specific borrowers.

    In fact, the mortgage crisis was caused by greedy PRIVATE SECTOR mortgage brokers and banks VOLUNTARILY writing loans to people who couldn’t afford them in order to collect loan generation fees. It was PRIVATE SECTOR “quants” on Wall Street who invented ingenious securities that concealed the riskiness of these loans. These PRIVATE SECTOR financiers misrepresented the quality of these loans to the financial institutions that purchased them. And PRIVATE SECTOR ratings agencies took hundreds of millions of dollars in virtual bribes to confer AAA ratings on dangerously risky securities that made them look risk-free in order to encourage unwitting purchasers to buy them.

    Government is not innocent in this mess. But government’s sins are mostly sins of omission: Regulators simply failed to stop irresponsible and dangerous PRIVATE SECTOR lending practices. We needed more government, no less government, while this was going on.

    Next, this assertion:

    “Oil and gas prices sky rocketed just by political crap she spouted.”

    This is complete nonsense. Anything Pelosi said or did had zero impact on oil prices. Oil prices are volatile (and I’ve been successfully playing that volatility in the stock market for 20 years), but the volatility stems from supply and demand. The less restrictive domestic drilling policies espoused by Republicans, if implemented, wouldn’t have much effect on oil prices because the U.S. has only 5% of the world’s oil. Oh, and by the way, gas prices have not skyrocketed. They have dropped like a stone without a parachute.

  12. 16

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    #15 continued:

    And finally this absurdity:

    “So Nancy and her ilk caused the mortgage bubble to inflate and then collapse.”

    Blaming everything on Pelosi is what you do if you’re a wingnut who knows nothing about the subject and has no arguments.

  13. 18

    Steve spews:

    @11 “@9 He’s blaming the 2008 financial collapse on Obama.”

    I’m sure it’s only coincidental, but prior to Obama wrapping up the nomination in 2008, everything wingnuts fucked up was Bill Clinton’s fault.

  14. 19

    dutch spews:

    Roger, you are an idiot.
    but then, what’s new.
    maybe I need to speak british to you.
    Oil and petrol…

  15. 20

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    The GOP debate in Iowa wrapped up a few minutes ago, and Gingrich appears to be the big winner. He did it by not withering under biting criticism from the moderators and the other candidates about his history of immoral behavior. Romney not only failed to hurt Gingrich, but tripped over his own dick by offering to bet Perry $10,000 that he didn’t change a line about health care in later editions of his book. He would have been all right if he’d said $10, but what he did instead was demonstrate that he doesn’t understand what $10,000 means to most people. I think the likelihood has increased that Romney will not win Iowa and that we may be looking at an Obama-Gingrich race next year.

  16. 21

    Steve spews:

    @17 To be a wingnut is to be really fucking stupid, so I think we’ll always be stuck with really stupid fucking trolls. But that’s not really the problem. Our trolls are boring. Combine boring with the stupid, and we have a troll problem.

  17. 22

    Steve spews:

    “we may be looking at an Obama-Gingrich race next year”

    Speaking of really stupid people, I read somewhere recently that Gingrich is a really stupid person’s idea of someone who is smart.

  18. 23

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @19 Not a novice mudslinger myself, I expected you to toss a water balloon after getting your ass handed to you. All I can say is, Oooh I’m all wet!

    Now let’s get serious. You can’t speak American let alone British. You don’t know a fucking thing about oil or gas. HA readers don’t have to take my word for this; let’s test it with a little quiz.

    What event between 2003 and 2010 permanently reduced world oil output by 1.65 million bpd?

  19. 24

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @23 I’ll let the rest of you decide for yourselves whether a rabbit who knows the answer to this question (how could I ask it, if I didn’t?) is an idiot.

    How much time do y’all think I should give him before posting the answer?

  20. 25

    puddybud spews:

    He’s blaming the 2008 financial collapse on Obama.

    Where DOPEY One?

    As dutch wrote above, you R an idiot!

    As always I deliver a factual link from a leftwing source and the HA loons start barking at the moon!

  21. 27

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @25 “As always I deliver a factual link from a leftwing source …!”

    What link? So far you’ve posted two comments in this thread and there isn’t a link in either one of them.

  22. 28

    puddybud spews:

    What event between 2003 and 2010 permanently reduced world oil output by 1.65 million bpd?

    Oh DOPEY one, there are many EVENTS!

    Name the four major events?

    Shiiiiiiit… Puddy waiting for the pseudo-black men rujax and Stupid Solution Steve to enunciate the historical black events of 1968.

  23. 30

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @28 I asked dutch to name the event that fits the parameters of the question. Is your name dutch? Nor did I invite you to change the question. I’m not looking for “many” events, I’m looking for one specific event to find out if he knows anything about the oil market.

  24. 31

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @29 Sorry, I don’t get into arguments with insentient vegetables. I have better things to do.

  25. 32

    puddybud spews:

    @31,

    You R the vegetable. You better go to the hospital cuz your memory slippin! I never said Obama the cause. You are DELUSIONAL!

  26. 33

    Deathfrogg spews:

    @ 31

    Being a semi-sentient vegitarian Lagomorph, it would seem that talking to ones food is an early sign of dementia caused by the particular vegitable of the moment attempting to imitate rational conversation in the first place.

    As for spuddypud here, I used to think of him as a sort of potatoe. Now, I realize he’s one of those nasty, atavistic cabbages.

  27. 34

    Steve spews:

    “enunciate the historical black events of 1968″

    I reckon that one of those would be me, but I promised the loon’s mama that I’d never tell anybody about what happened that night back in 1968. But I can say that the thing she does with two cantaloupe and a banana would blow your fucking mind.

  28. 38

    puddybud spews:

    @35,

    Can’t admit to something I never wrote idiot DOPEY Rabbit. And you call yourself a lawyer?

  29. 42

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @28 So you admit you didn’t say one way or the other whether Obama caused the shitty economy after 2007?

  30. 43

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @41 They give you an unlimited number of tries, but because they start a new “leaderboard” at 12 a.m. EST every day, which is 9 p.m. our time, I needed no more tries than a rabbit can do in 16 minutes. (I posted #37 at 9:16 p.m.) But I’m willing to be more specific: I did it on my first try. Of course, tonight isn’t the first time I’ve ever played this game, so I’ve had a little prior practice.

    Feel free to give it a whirl, pussybutt. I’ll look for your initials on the “leaderboard.” There’s no way to cheat at this, or if there is, I don’t know what it is. Getting a perfect score isn’t impossible; I’m not the only one, somebody else did it tonight, too.

    Of course, it helps a lot to have a very quick mind and very quick paws, not to mention a fabulous vocabulary.

  31. 45

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @44 Above average, but you could improve with practice. If you get 1 wrong answer, the highest possible score is 3900, so to get 4000 points or above, you have to get all 10 questions right. When you have that down, work on choosing the answers faster. To get a perfect score of 4200, you have to correctly answer every question in 1 second or less. You lose 20 points for every extra 1 second you take. I found this game about two weeks ago, and it took me several days to get it down. There are 2 people and 1 rabbit who consistently post perfect scores every day.

  32. 47

    Deathfrogg spews:

    @ RR

    Yeah, took me about 2-3 seconds each. I just did it again. Got a 3320 out of it. Missed “enervate”, which I always took to meaning frustrate or annoy. “Weakness” was the match. Odd.

    I knew that one from an old Slim Pickens movie: “there ain’t one thing more enervatin’ in this world than a recalcitrant horse!”

  33. 48

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @46 It’s not a trick. Merriam-Webster runs that website, and I have no control over how the quiz is constructed or the scoring. You and I have to play it on an equal footing. That’s why I invited you to give it a try. You want to call me an idiot, then show me you can match my 4200 score. If you can’t then maybe you should back off the “idiot” language and find something else to call me — I’m sure you could think of something … commie or socialist or leftie or “Dummocrat” or whatever …

  34. 49

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @47 Yeah, “enervate” means weaken. An example is “enervating heat that saps your energy.” I know the answer instantly because I’ve seen the word many times before, and that’s because I do a lot of reading.

  35. 50

    puddybud spews:

    See there you go again Roger DOPEY Rabbit… what was post #42 referring to?

    Something wrong with you today (just like other days). Did Mrs Rabbit cuff yo side yo head with the iron skillet again? How many times is that now 3500 or so?

  36. 52

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @50 Okay, so now that we’ve established that you didn’t say that Obama caused the shitty economy after 2007, and you didn’t say that Obama didn’t cause the shitty economy after 2007, and you also didn’t not say one way or the other whether Obama caused the shitty economy after 2007, what exactly did you say? It doesn’t appear to me there are any other possibilities, so the only possible conclusion is that you didn’t say anything at all. So do you admit now that you didn’t say anything at all?

  37. 53

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @51 When I don’t know the answer, I can guess the correct answer most of the time by eliminating the other three choices.

  38. 54

    puddybud spews:

    What I originally wrote above Roger. Funny though, Stupid Solution Steve couldn’t figger it out! That’s why he needs to lay off his Stupid Solution.

    DeadToad, well there’s no hope for that moron! All he dreams about are drugs and projects them on others. A Psych 101 melodrama!

  39. 55

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @50 Yeah, my score on the vocabulary quiz always goes up after she brains me with the skillet. I’m not sure why. It must jiggle some more neurons awake, or something.

  40. 57

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @54 “What I originally wrote above Roger.”

    Oh, that’s just great. When somebody asks you wtf you said, your response is, “what I originally wrote above.” I’ll give you one thing, puddy, you’d make a great witness in a federal corruption trial. If I were a defense attorney for the bad guys, I’d love to have a witness like you.

  41. 59

    Deathfrogg spews:

    @ 57

    Yeah, a lot of the mob trials in the 50s and 60s had witnesses like that. Most of those guys were so dumb they couldn’t answer the same question twice in a row.

    Spuddy, please. Get help.

  42. 60

    puddybud spews:

    Roger,

    On this blog I have to repeat myself cuz the really dopey ones just don’t get it the first time. Witness Stupid Solution Steve and Deadtoad above. So I wrote what I wrote and it stands on it’s own. See the Toad still can’t understand it. Maybe you are smarter that the average roadkill toad!

    BTW I got two tough words!

  43. 61

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @58 I’m impressed. You not only took the quiz but were honest about your score.

    Crepuscular relates to twilight, so the matching word is “dim” or something similar.

    A lagniappe is a gift, so the matching word is “gift,” “benefit,” or similar.

  44. 62

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @59 Or they were smart enough to answer it with a non-answer. There’s more than one way to take the fifth. We saw an example this week when Corzine testified in a congressional hearing that he had no idea $1.2 billion went missing and has no idea where it went.

  45. 63

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @60 You’re not as dumb as you look, spud. But there’s only three possible ways to interpret what you posted, and I got you to deny all three, so I’ve now proved you said absolutely nothing. In fact, all of your posts say absolutely nothing, and everyone knows it. I simply enjoy the challenge of getting a slippery character like you to acknowledge that there’s no content in your posts.

  46. 64

    puddybud spews:

    @61,

    Yes I got their meanings when I said WTF? I will use crepuscular (dim) to describe rujax, ylb, deadtoad and stupid solution steve and many other HA leftists!

  47. 65

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @64 Well, at least I will know what you’re talking about, so let’s let that be our little secret, hey?

  48. 66

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    For what it’s worth, I usually can’t get 4200 on the vocabulary quiz when I’m drunk, although I’ve done it a couple times (just to prove to myself I can.) I’m not the Great Mother Rabbit Spirit; there are limits to what I can do, intellectually or otherwise. I can’t, for example, time the stock market. Nobody can, so I don’t feel bad about that.

  49. 67

    puddybud spews:

    Roger, you received nothing at all about ObamAA+ with my response. It was about Nancy Pelosi and gas prices. You by extension always try to frame an issue to “your liking”. Puddy don’t play dat!

    Being a moron suits you well.

  50. 68

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @67 So you admit the excerpt from #2 you cut-and-pasted @8 has nothing to do the text of #8 and is only there for decoration? You just threw it in there for the hell of it?

  51. 69

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    How, exactly, do you think Pelosi affected gas prices? Are you talking about gasoline or natural gas?

  52. 70

    Michael spews:

    @58

    Deer are Crepuscular, an animal most active at twilight. Learned that one in hunters ed in 6th grade.

    Lagniappe? Never heard of it, either.

  53. 71

    puddybud spews:

    Man you are as dense as ever.

    ObamAA+ coming on board at the height of an economic storm mostly caused by Pelosi’s big mouth and her abject hatred of big oil. The AJC article backs this up. The economy nosedived when gas prices escalated above $3 then to $3.50.

    Gas and oil prices. Natural gas goes up as a corollary event due to substitute energy demands. Remember the big thing was to convert houses from oil to natural gas? My sister went through that on the east coast one spring.

    Sometimes you can’t put 2+2 together. Liberalism is a mental disorder.

  54. 72

    puddybud spews:

    Michael,

    Bambi and friends (we have had 5 at a time) visit our house during all hours of the day. So the herd in our neighborhood isn’t crepuscular. They tend to like apples and pears.

  55. 73

    Michael spews:

    @72
    Things go all to hell when you get wild animals in cities and burbs. We have a 4×6 buck deer that hangs out in our back yard. That sucker should be bedded down in heavy cover, but he’s out wandering around in the wide open in the middle of the day. He’s consumed more than his share of our raspberries and green beans.

  56. 74

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Re #23: Looks like dutch has bailed, so here’s the answer to #23. The event that caused a permanent decline of 1.65 million bpd in world oil output between 2003 and 2010 was depletion of Mexico’s Cantarell field. Cantarell’s production fell from 2.1 million bpd in 2003 to 464K bpd by 2010.

    Cantarell is the world’s third largest producing oilfield, and at its peak had the second highest daily production. But it is depleting at a much faster rate than other supergiant oilfields because of its extremely compact size — it occupies an ancient asteroid impact crater.

    Because Cantarell is so large, its rapid decline impacts global oil supplies and therefore oil prices.

  57. 75

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @71 I don’t know how to deal with this level of economic ignorance. I don’t know if anybody can.

    Gasoline prices did not cause the Great Recession! Excessive borrowing and illiquidity in the credit system did. In fact, the recession has kept gasoline prices lower than they’d otherwise be by dampening demand. Ten percent unemployment took millions of commuter vehicles off America’s roads.

    Domestic natural gas prices have plunged because of huge new supplies released to the market by shale fracking technology. This is simple supply and demand. Oil is a global commodity with a more or less uniform price, but natural gas markets are regional with pricing variations, because natural gas is less transportable than oil. Thus, America’s natural gas surplus can’t easily be sold in European or Asian markets.

    For most transportation, residential, and industrial uses, natural gas can’t be substituted for oil without equipment conversions that require time and money. In the short run, the two fuels are not readily interchangeable.

  58. 76

    puddybud spews:

    Gasoline prices did not cause the Great Recession!

    Oh my Roger… apparently you didn’t read the AJC article. They mentioned it exacerbated the problem at the local level. Stop being so macro all the time.

    Regarding natural gas and other fuels, Roger Roger Roger. What have you been reading? The newer vehicles are being purchased as NG vehicles.

    I thought you so lovingly read everything coming from this sadministration?

  59. 77

    puddybud spews:

    How about the pipeline closures, the boycotts, and the internal strife taking reducing oil capacity.

  60. 78

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @71 “an economic storm mostly caused by Pelosi’s big mouth and her abject hatred of big oil”

    So puddy thinks Pelosi caused most of our economic troubles by shooting off her mouth and hating on Big Oil — and if you disagree with that you’re “dense.” Whew.

    Hard to know whether he’s a moron, stoned, or insane.

    The Democrats won control of the House in 2006 and Pelosi became Speaker in January of 2007. Because it takes at least 10 years to put a new oilfield into production, that means she’s to blame for the high gasoline prices that have existed since 2017.

    It also means the housing collapse, credit collapse, banking collapse, and subsequent deleveraging had nothing to do with the economy’s contraction.

    Whew.

    Personally, I don’t think he’ll get a Nobel Prize in Economics for that insight.

  61. 81

    puddybud spews:

    So puddy thinks Pelosi caused most of our economic troubles by shooting off her mouth and hating on Big Oil — and if you disagree with that you’re “dense.” Whew.

    There he goes again jumping to the wrong conclusion. He’s still fixated on #71 he can’t process anything further while I’m past #77.

    I guess when you get old you process facts ever so slowly!

    @79, Notice he’s forgotten his own comments @74 on oil supply capacity reduction. You need help DOPEY Rabbit. Maybe some of DeadToads drugs will help your “mind”.

  62. 82

    puddybud spews:

    Oh Roger Roger Roger, your Mexico oil math is way off… I remember reading about some funny named Mexican oil field. You forgot to add in KMZ oil production which went from 329K barrels to 857K barrels during the same time, so the Mexican drop is only 1.1 MM not 1.6 MM barrels.

    But for an old senile DOPEY Rabbit you are doing ok!

  63. 83

    puddybud spews:

    Ed Schultz, where America comes to laugh – AT HIM

    MSNBC’s Ed Schultz, Tina Brown Among GQ’s 2011 ‘Least Influential People Alive’ List

    Say it ain’t so! He comes in at #3!

    And then there is Sam Seder… He was dropped on Scare America, so you know this guy is a loser!

    Says a lot about this leftist MSM used by this blog when you scrape the barrel with Sgt (He really knows nothing) Schultz, Sam Scare America Loser Seder, and What is that Stenk in Here Uygur

  64. 84

    Steve spews:

    “Hard to know whether he’s a moron, stoned, or insane.”

    He’s just an extremely stupid, self-loathing asswipe.

    Too funny. He brags about cracking 3000 on the word test like he bragged about barely cracking 100 on an IQ test. One thing for sure, he doesn’t know when to keep his stupid fucking mouth shut.

  65. 85

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @82 You have a problem with staying on topic. Are you taking your ADD pills when you’re supposed to?

  66. 86

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Poll: Gingrich Opens Big Leads

    A new Marist Poll shows Gingrich leading Romney by 42% – 23% in South Carolina and 48% – 29% in Florida. South Carolina winners have won every GOP nomination since 1980. Sure looks like GOP voters are sticking a fork in Mittster, and he didn’t help himself last night.

  67. 87

    spews:

    When are we going to get the surge of the “Paul” and teh “Paulites”?

    There are certainly some dumbfuck trolls here who buy into that garbage.

    PS…Whatever happened to “Partied too Hard”? Little twerp didn’t last very long did he?

  68. 88

    spews:

    Why izzznn’t puddywuddyduddypussy jumping up and down on us “libtardoes” for mocking the gay Rick Perry for acting well…gay?

  69. 89

    spews:

    We’ve discussed many times the inverse relationship between the value of the dollar and oil prices..

    What does this chart indicate I wonder?

    http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2.....e-2001-08/

    I’d say something that contradicts the loon’s stupidity.

    Oh and this Bushie econogeek blames the Federal Reserve for the crash, but what would he know when you have geniuses like dutch and the loon spewing the same old right wing horseshit from places like Free Republic.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-50.....03983.html

  70. 90

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    He Has Seen The Future, And Its Name Is Newt, Which Is A Misspelling Of Nuts

    According to The Economist, a U.K.-based conservative opinion magazine, Newt “has called for ‘a massive new program to build a permanent lunar colony to exploit the Moon’s resources’ [and] suggested that ‘a mirror system in space could provide the light equivalent of many full moons so that there would be no need for nighttime lighting of the highways.’ Practical solutions to America’s problems these are not. But heck, they’re a lot more interesting than, say, putting LED bulbs in street lights.”

    http://www.economist.com/blogs.....t-gingrich

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: You’ve just glimpsed what’s inside the skull of the GOP frontrunner. It looks like a massive government spending program to me. Maybe I should buy more shares of Lockheed Martin, Boeing, and General Dynamics.

  71. 91

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @89 What we saw last night was classic puddy — cherry-picking facts and changing the subject when he’s losing an argument.

  72. 92

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @84 Oh c’mon, give poor puddy a break, after all 3020 is 10% above the average score. Is there something wrong with an IQ of 110? We can’t all be Roger Rabbit.

  73. 95

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @93 What’s even scarier is this. The world’s largest oilfield is Saudi Arabia’s Ghawar, which produces 5 million bpd. The Saudis inject seawater into peripheral wells to force the oil out of production wells. Naturally, the water comes up, too. From the wellhead, the oil-water mix goes to giant separators, where the water is removed. At the beginning, almost pure oil came up, but now the liquid coming out of Ghawar’s wells is three-fourths water and one-fourth oil. What this tells you is that most of the oil has been taken out of Ghawar, and the world’s largest oilfield is dying. What will happen when that 5 million bpd is only 50,000 bpd — or 5000 bpd?

  74. 96

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    This is what passes for humor in today’s financial blogosphere:

    A Greek, an Italian, and a Spaniard walk into a bar. Who picks up the tab?

    Answer: The Americans.

  75. 97

    Michael spews:

    Newt Gingrich and Jon Huntsman to debate! Is Newt trying to give Huntsman a bump in the polls? I still think Newt doesn’t really want to be president.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-16054669
    Republican presidential hopefuls Newt Gingrich and Jon Huntsman plan to hold a debate styled on the historic 1858 tussles between Abraham Lincoln and Senator Stephen Douglas.

    Their campaigns say the debate, to be held on Monday 12 December at St Anselm College in New Hampshire, will provide a detailed exploration of their positions and views for the country.

    But are they, the voters and the media capable of an intelligent, detailed debate akin to the 21 hours of speeches and argument Lincoln and Douglas made in 1858?

  76. 98

    puddybud spews:

    He brags about cracking 3000

    There he goes again making shit up! Stupid Solution Steve has a projection problem, a Psych 101 thing.

    Stupid Solution Steve… still ignorant in all things black.

  77. 99

    puddybud spews:

    You have a problem with staying on topic. Are you taking your ADD pills when you’re supposed to?

    Roger DOPEY Rabbit… your topic, your rant.

    For you, multitasking has left the building.

    So sad. From now on I will warn you with “Roger DOPEY Rabbit – Topic Change

  78. 100

    puddybud spews:

    Why izzznn’t puddywuddyduddypussy jumping up and down on us “libtardoes” for mocking the gay Rick Perry for acting well…gay?

    Doesn’t rujax, the prime moron of HA remember anything? I don’t like or care for Rick Perry!

    SJ – remember our previous conversation about “people” like rujax? He plays the fool part exceptionally well. It comes naturally!

    Still stupid, even on Sundays!

  79. 101

    puddybud spews:

    When are we going to get the surge of the “Paul” and teh “Paulites”?

    There are certainly some dumbfuck trolls here who buy into that garbage.

    Another miserable memory failure of rujax.

    And you all scream about my multiple posts? Well when more than half of the miserable cretinous HA leftists forget previous facts, one MUST repost.

  80. 103

    puddybud spews:

    Mexican oil production.

    Thanks Michael @93. You just proved Roger DOPEY Rabbit is more wrong than ever about his Mexican Oil facts. The drop is about 600K barrels not 1.6 MM barrels.

    Of course the rest of miserable cretinous HA leftist moonbats missed your point.

  81. 104

    Steve spews:

    “Still stupid, even on Sundays!”

    He gets more stupid with each passing day. Now he’s so stupid, he’s boring.

  82. 105

    spews:

    101. puddybud spews:

    When are we going to get the surge of the “Paul” and teh “Paulites”?

    There are certainly some dumbfuck trolls here who buy into that garbage.

    Another miserable memory failure of rujax.

    And you all scream about my multiple posts? Well when more than half of the miserable cretinous HA leftists forget previous facts, one MUST repost.

    12/11/2011 at 12:12 pm

    Only like “Everybody’s bitch” could possibly believe that “Democrats for Paul” is nothing more than a put-up Paul Campaign “movement”.

    A dumb fucking cluck-cluck is the puddywuddyduddypussy.

  83. 107

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @99 Don’t bother. I don’t need you to tell me when you’re changing the topic. I can figure that out on my own. You change the topic whenever you’re losing an argument.

  84. 108

    Michael spews:

    Go kids!

    http://www.grist.org/climate-c.....imate-chan

    As the U.S. delegation drags its feet at the climate talks in Durban, South Africa, this week, a pack of kids back home is trying to force the old folks into action, the American way: They’re suing the bastards.

    In May, a group of young people, led by 17-year-old Alec Loorz (founder of Kids vs. Global Warming), filed 10 lawsuits, one against the federal government and the others against individual states, to compel the government to take action on climate change.

    “The generations before us … just kind of thought of the world as limitless,” said Glori Dei Filippone, 13, a plaintiff in the case who hails from Des Moines, Iowa. “My generation and the one after it are going to have to work hard to fix this mess

  85. 109

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @100 It’s Sunday morning. Aren’t you supposed to be in church getting your soul saved?

  86. 110

    puddybud spews:

    It’s Sunday morning. Aren’t you supposed to be in church getting your soul saved?

    Well you R DOPEY as ever! Think Rabbit! Think!

  87. 111

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @103 I wasn’t talking about Mexico’s aggregate oil production, I was talking about Cantarell’s oil production, jackass. Cantarell’s drop isn’t any fucking 600K, it’s 1.65 MM. If you don’t believe me, look it up.

  88. 112

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @110 My mistake. Having thought about it, I now realize wingnuts have no souls worth saving.

  89. 113

    puddybud spews:

    “Democrats for Paul” is nothing more than a put-up Paul Campaign “movement”.

    rujax is as ignorant as ever

    Here is where

    the scream started rujax. Puddy covered this before. This wasn’t on your favorite kook-aid site TPM rujax?

    Still stupid, even more so on Sundays.

  90. 114

    puddybud spews:

    What event between 2003 and 2010 permanently reduced world oil output by 1.65 million bpd?

    That was what you wrote Roger DOPEY Rabbit. Except it didn’t permanently reduce anything because other Mexican oil fields came on line during that time. As old oil fields become depleted, countries that still explore for oil find new ones and they come online.

    Seems only the US isn’t exploring right now ObamAA+ wants us more dependent on foreign oil!

  91. 115

    puddybud spews:

    Do you deny cracking 3000?

    Where did I say that Roger DOPEY Rabbit?

    Projection is a sad thing. Stupid Solution Steve taught you well in his Psych 101 course!

  92. 118

    spews:

    The character revered on HA as “Everybody’s Bitch” is a sabbatarian and a member of the Seventh Day Adventist cult.

    So the perpetrator of “moral turpitude” (as interpreted by the batshit crazy founder, Ellen White) defiles his Sabbath by lying and using profanity on HIS Sabbath and everybody elses.

    poor poor puddywuddyduddypussy. He maybe engaging in the “secret vice”!!! Look out puddywuddyduddypussy.

  93. 119

    puddybud spews:

    Ummmm Michael, go back and reread what he claimed. It PERMANENTLY reduced world oil output? He framed the sentence like he always does yet the facts are here. Seems it went up between 2003 and 2008.

    That was his choice of words! Maybe he did it under duress with Mrs Rabbit’s iron frying pan side his head!

  94. 120

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @113 Lots of Republicans call themselves Democrats, but you never see Democrats calling themselves Republicans — why is that, puddy?

  95. 121

    puddybud spews:

    defiles his Sabbath by lying and using profanity on HIS Sabbath

    Dopey fool. Where? Right now it’s Monday morning where I am. Do you comprehend time zones?

    Wait for it… ylb will start searching the crazed HA databaze. He’ll have to prove I was home during that time.

    Wait for it… Pavlov calls it. He is my beta stalker.

  96. 123

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Cantarell’s 1.65M bpd production decline is a permanent loss to world oil output. Even if you count new production from other fields, global production is still 1.65M bpd less than it would have been if Cantarell’s production hadn’t declined; and that decline is permanent, there’s no way to get it back, because it’s caused by depletion.

    I don’t have to explain this to anyone else, only to puddydope.

  97. 124

    spews:

    http://destructionist.wordpres.....-coverage/

    Filed under: best cooking recipes, #_Destructionist — Leave a comment

    December 9, 2011

    Kurt Nimmo
    PrisonPlanet.com
    Friday, December 9, 2011

    The establishment media campaign to ignore Ron Paul despite his immense popularity received a blow this week when the Pew Research Center’s Project for Excellence in Journalism released the results of a new study.

    PEJ looked at 20 million Tweets about the race for president and found that Ron Paul “fared far better” than any other Republican candidate on Twitter.

    Paul was referred to positively in 55 percent of the 1.1 million assessments studied by PEJ. “That is a differential for Paul of 40 points on the positive side,” notes Pew.

    Yeah. Ron Paul is going to be the Democratic Nominee for president because the puddywuddyduddypussy says so and because these little morons discover that Paul-pulsion DOMINATES TWITTER!!!!

    omgomgomgomgomg!

  98. 125

    puddybud spews:

    All can see the spastic ruminations of Roger DOPEY Rabbit

    Lots of Republicans call themselves Democrats, but you never see Democrats calling themselves Republicans.

    What was the title of the article Roger DOPEY Rabbit? And this is the DUMMOCRAPT from the HuffPo article…

    If you are a Democrat, and you sit tight and vote Democrat again “because you’ve always been a Democrat” or because you think that some group with which you identity will benefit more from Democrat programs than a Republican one, then that is up to you, and I wish you well. But don’t you dare pretend that you are motivated primarily by peace, civil rights or a government that treats people equally.

    That Ron Paul, who has been standing up for these principles quietly for half a lifetime, happens to be a member of the Republican party is a lot less important than the principles that we should be voting on. The fact that he is not a party guy should be obvious from his extensive differences in policy from his party and the fact that many think, given his views, he should not run as a Republican at all.

    You see Roger DOPEY Rabbit needs Alzheimer’s meds. In 15 minutes he forgot the content of the HuffPo article, written by a DUMMOCRAPT for DUMMOCRAPTS.

    Sad, so sad to see Roger DOPEY Rabbit slide down the mental hill.

  99. 126

    puddybud spews:

    @124,

    If there ever is a candidate for moron on the world stage it’s rujax and post #124. Where did Puddy mention Twitter? Can anyone help out the chief moron of HA?

    Hands down.

  100. 127

    Michael spews:

    @119
    I was pointing out that Roger had said:

    depletion of Mexico’s Cantarell field. Cantarell’s production fell from 2.1 million bpd in 2003 to 464K bpd by 2010.

    While my post was of total Mexican oil production. Mexico has more than just Cantarell in production.

  101. 129

    puddybud spews:

    So you deny that you denied cracking 3000?

    Where did I say that Roger DOPEY Rabbit?

    Keep looking…

  102. 131

    puddybud spews:

    The worlds biggest moron farts…

    I found ZERO polling regading(?) Paul favorability with Democratic voters.

    ZERO.

    Well when you live on kook-aid puke sites your skillz set is very limited, like his mind! Puddy found this in 3 seconds…

    The NBC-Marist survey, conducted between November 27-29, shows Paul ties with Obama, 42-42. Current front runner Newt Gingrich loses to the president 47-37; Mitt Romney, who until recently was leading most polls, is also defeated, 46-39.

    The survey shows that Paul has support outside of the GOP, which any Republican will need to score a victory in November next year. The political perspectives of those polled was almost evenly distributed, with 36-percent claiming Democrat, 35-percent Independent, and 28-percent Republican party affiliation.

    NBC moronic twit rujax. Libtards trust NBC. It must really suck being as stupid as rujax is. Well ylb is in the same mental category. But he recognized it and created the crazed HA databaze. Sadly rujax has nothing!

  103. 132

    spews:

    131. puddybud spews:

    The worlds biggest moron farts…I found ZERO polling regading Paul favorability with Democratic voters.

    ZERO.

    Well when you live on kook-aid puke sites your skillz set is very limited, like his mind! Puddy found this in 3 seconds…

    The NBC-Marist survey, conducted between November 27-29, shows Paul ties with Obama, 42-42. Current front runner Newt Gingrich loses to the president 47-37; Mitt Romney, who until recently was leading most polls, is also defeated, 46-39.

    The survey shows that Paul has support outside of the GOP, which any Republican will need to score a victory in November next year. The political perspectives of those polled was almost evenly distributed, with 36-percent claiming Democrat, 35-percent Independent, and 28-percent Republican party affiliation.

    It really sucks being as stupid as rujax is. Well ylb is in the same mental category. But he recognized it and created the crazed HA databaze. Sadly rujax has nothing!

    12/11/2011 at 1:29 pm

    Nice try by “Everybody’s Bitch“…but NO Ceeegar!

    The info I was looking for was Ron Paul numbers vis-a-vis DEMOCRATIC VOTERS!

    DEMOCRATIC VOTERS…bitch.

    Stay away from that “secret vice”, buddy…it’s gettin’ to ya.

  104. 134

    puddybud spews:

    The survey shows that Paul has support outside of the GOP, which any Republican will need to score a victory in November next year. The political perspectives of those polled was almost evenly distributed, with 36-percent claiming Democrat, 35-percent Independent, and 28-percent Republican party affiliation.

    Still a moron!

    Ron Paul is going to be the Democratic Nominee for president because the puddywuddyduddypussy says so and because these little morons discover that Paul-pulsion DOMINATES TWITTER!!!!

    Still a moron!

  105. 138

    Michael spews:

    Looks like people were saving their ammo for Sunday. The gun violence has picked up after all.

    3 men injured in Sarasota shooting
    http://www.miamiherald.com/201.....oting.html

    Police arrested two people in connection with a shooting that led to a vehicle chase in South Austin, according to arrest affidavits.
    Before 1 a.m. Saturday, a woman driving a green Chevrolet rammed it into a white Nissan, according to two of the Nissan’s four occupants, the affidavits said. The Nissan passengers said the Chevy then drove in front of the Nissan on Manchaca Road south of West Slaughter Lane, and the passenger of the Chevy fired about seven shots at the Nissan, the affidavits said.
    http://www.statesman.com/blogs.....he_blotter

    Updated, 2:15 p.m. Sunday: A 14-year-old boy was fatally shot in a highway turnout near Hecker Pass on Saturday night, the Sheriff’s Office reported.

    No arrests have been made in what detectives have suspect is a gang-related slaying.

    The teenager and another boy, also 14, were shot on Highway 152 about four miles north of Watsonville around 8:15 p.m., according to the Sheriff’s Office.
    http://watsonville.patch.com/a.....ar-hwy-152

    Shooting claims one in Chapel Hill
    http://www.heraldsun.com/view/.....ecommended

  106. 140

    Michael spews:

    Just for shits and giggles I took a look at how Washington State’s “spend crazy” Democrats stacked up against some of out Republican friends favorite states.

    You can see the results here:

    http://tinyurl.com/6wz3ft9

  107. 144

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @128 “Which I brought up in post #82.”

    Which didn’t have a fucking thing to do with my comments about Cantarell’s production decline due to depletion.

  108. 145

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @129 You didn’t say that or anything else anywhere, which is my point: Your comments say absolutely nothing.

  109. 146

    Michael spews:

    Looks like I missed one. Or six if you’re counting the wounded.

    At least six people were wounded early Sunday in four shootings across Chicago.

    The shootings happened as far north as the Uptown neighborhood, which has seen a rash of shootings over the last three weeks, and as far south as the Englewood neighborhood, with two other incidents on the West and Southwest sides.
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/.....8376.story

  110. 147

    Michael spews:

    It’s straw purchases at gun shops that allow us to have the high firearms death rate that we do (30,896 firearms related deaths in ’06). We can probably never get rid of all straw all purchases, but we can put a big dent in them. Making waiting periods federal law and the same across the country, limiting the number of guns you buy in a month (some states do this, most don’t It needs to be federal and the same everywhere) would help. Also the ATF is a joke and poorly funded. Ditch the ATF, put everything gun related under the FBI and fund it adequately, so that they can prosecute the handful of gun shops that are responsible for the overwhelming number of straw purchases.

    http://www.nraila.org/GunLaws/.....aspx?id=74

  111. 151

    puddybud spews:

    I’m a Democratic party hack and liberal propagandist. Deal with it.

    Dealing with your slide down the mental hill?

    Its so sad! As you said… liberalism is a mental disease. It affects some faster than others!

  112. 154

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Let’s deal with this whole “liberalism is a mental disease” meme right now.

    Liberals gave us the Constitution, Bill of Rights, free speech, a free press, freedom of religion, the rule of law, and due process of law.

    Right wingers arrest people without charges, imprison them without trial, deny them access to lawyers, and beat, raped, sodomized, tortured, and murdered people they kidnapped and “rendered” to filthy jails in foreign lands operated by complicated governments.

    Right wingers also arrested American citizens attending open townhalls in public buildings for wearing the wrong campaign buttons or having the wrong bumper stickers on their cars; and, if right wingers could get their way, they would jail critics and dissenters –they don’t give a damn what the Constitution says. Right wingers also blame their own malfeasances and failures on the media that reports them — they don’t believe in a free press, either.

    Right wingers demonize Muslims, Mormons, and other people of other religions; and want to force-feed their religion to our children in public schools — they don’t believe in freedom of religion, either.

    Right wingers support government spying on your medical, financial, employment, school, and library records — they don’t respect your right of privacy.

    Right wingers don’t bother with evidence and don’t care if the wrong person is arrested by mistake — they don’t believe in due process of law.

    But there is one constitutional “right” that right wingers defend at all costs — the “right” of white supremacists, neo-Nazis, bank robbers, and psychos to own military assault weapons designed to kill human beings en masse.

    Right wingers scream that abortion is “murder” but want to bomb every village and kill women and children for the crime of being foreigners and different from us.

    Liberals gave us the 40-hour work week, overtime pay, minimum wage, child labor laws, workplace safety laws, injured workers benefits, unemployment insurance, collective bargaining rights, the G.I. Bill and veterans benefits, and Social Security and Medicare.

    Right wingers oppose minimum wage laws, overtime pay, unemployment benefits, safety regulation, and benefits for injured workers.

    Right wingers support anti-union “right to work” laws and union-busting so they can profit from exploiting underpaid labor.

    Right wingers pay lip service to supporting the troops, but tried to eliminate combat pay for our soldiers serving in Iraq, and refuse to pay taxes for veterans benefits.

    Right wingers posture about supporting “welfare queens,” but don’t pay their own court-ordered child support for their own children (see, e.g., Rep. Joe Walsh).

    Right wingers also want to eliminate Social Security and Medicare, and turn your retirement funds over to Wall Street.

    Liberals gave us free public education, the cornerstone of our democracy and economic prosperity.

    Right wingers want to give our tax money to private schools with no accountability for how the funds are spent, what the children are taught, or whether they learn.

    Liberals gave us consumer protection laws, public health programs, and environmental laws that cleaned up the air we breathe and the water we drink.

    Right wingers think the laws that protect our health and quality of life are “socialism,” and laugh at global warming as a “myth” fostered by “tree huggers.”

    And despite all this, right wingers think it’s the liberals who are “mentally diseased.” That speaks for itself, and needs no reply.

  113. 155

    Blue John spews:

    On the contrary, I would be interested in reading what puddy feels is wrong with liberalism. I know he cannot, but what can he logically find wrong with liberal ideas? what’s so Right about conservatives?

  114. 156

    puddybud spews:

    Liberals gave us the Constitution? Then why are liberals complaining about it?

    Apparently this DOPEY Rabbit has forgotten these facts

    So why do y’all claim the constitution is outdated? Why do you stand with Time Magazine’s Alex Altman who complained about Republicans reading US Constitution “the fetishizing of the Constitution is unsettling.”

    Vanity Fair complained they were blowing hot air.

    Dahlia Lithwick at Slate is always making fun of it.

    As you said all I need is one example to nuke your argument. Well I just delivered three about liberals who aren’t too kool over it.

    Rest of your rant just fell apart. Liberals hate it because it’s the law of the US!

    blue john is a typical Boston liberal moron! He probably kept sending serial philanderer Kennedy back to the senate.

  115. 157

    triple play spews:

    142. Roger Rabbit spews:
    @125 I’m a Democratic party hack and liberal propagandist. Deal with it.

    12/11/2011 AT 8:03 PM

    you forgot crook and tax cheat.

  116. 158

    No time for Oligarchies spews:

    @155. That’s it? That’s all you got? That liberals see the constitution as living document?
    Rabbit listed many accomplishments done by liberals.
    You cannot list a single positive national accomplishment that can be attributed to conservatives.
    sad.
    very sad.
    fitting, but sad.

  117. 159

    puddybud spews:

    Nope you dope, liberals hate the Constitution. Read it again and weep headless. All I need to do is provide one rebuttal to an argument per Roger DOPEY Rabbit. I provided three.

    Butt there is more… The US Constitution has made the USA the greatest nation ever. People come from all over the world to reside in the USA. The Constitution provides freedoms. You all hate the US being a superpower. Part of that superpower comes from our constitution. YOU libtardos want it destroyed…

    Now why it that headless? Because the US Constitution enumerates powers of each section of government. Unfortunately we see some peeps in both parties claim there are things in the constitution that are not there.

    The big one liberals hate is gun ownership. Gun owners, tend to be more conservative and are more likely to vote Republican. Then you have people who “appear” to like guns. So let’s take that a step further. You see gun control seems to always happen in the big cities. Who runs big cities…? DUMMOCRAPTS. So it seems DUMMOCRAPTS are afraid of blacks owning guns. SCOTUS on June 28, 2010 told the lower court to review it’s earlier decision over US citizenry owning guns. SCOTUS said the Second Amendment gives all Americans an individual right to bear arms. This shocked libtardos big time. Well y’all are condescending clowns. You all are against that individual right, but you’ll scream to high heaven claiming the abortion right is “buried in penumbra of the constitution“.

    Because the constitution protects the individual American, y’all hate it. Your condescending attitude is always you DUMMOCRAPTS always claim to know what is good for us? Really?

    U lose!

  118. 160

    No time for Oligarchies spews:

    poor puddy.
    That’s it? that’s all you got?
    wow.
    rabbit still has you beat. the question was what positive national accomplishments can be attributed to conservatives.
    and all you can come up with is gun ownership?

    sad.

  119. 161

    Liberal Scientist thinks that concentrated power and wealth should be met with suspicion, not adoration spews:

    @159
    Yup, that last pud dropping was classic – a miasma of logical fallacies.
    Pathetic.

  120. 162

    No Time for Oligarchies spews:

    Maybe that’s the issue. Nothing that rabbit listed actually matters to conservatives, or at least our trolls.

    They have simple wants and so long as they have their guns, god and someone they can beat up on to make themselves feel better, they are content.

  121. 163

    puddybud spews:

    the question was what positive national accomplishments can be attributed to conservatives.

    Don’t need to until you discuss why Libtards hate the US Constitution. That’s your question, not Roger DOPEY Rabbit’s! Per the DOPEY RABBIT. ALL ONE NEEDS IS ONE FACT TO DESTROY AN ARGUMENT. I delivered three. Hence the rest of his rant is mute. Basically his words long ago. He owns up to his words. Apparently you and the Lib Headcase didn’t get his memo.

    We’re still on the Constitution and why Libtards hate it. You haven’t answered why y’all hate it. So why do you need all these HNMMT names on HA? Sixty three and counting. Just admit to whom you really are and drop the charade dorkface.

    You tried to change the subject. Good try. You can’t describe why libtards in the MSM and libtard leaders got upset over the Republicans reading it.

    Naturally Lib Headcase doesn’t get it. Chronological order. Something always missing by a libtard.

  122. 164

    Michael spews:

    The big one liberals hate is gun ownership.

    I must not be a liberal. Either that or that .30-30 that I just got a new scope for is really a toy.

  123. 165

    spews:

    163. puddybud spews:

    the question was what positive national accomplishments can be attributed to conservatives.

    Don’t need to until you discuss why Libtards hate the US Constitution. That’s your question, not Roger DOPEY Rabbit’s! Per the DOPEY RABBIT. ALL ONE NEEDS IS ONE FACT TO DESTROY AN ARGUMENT. I delivered three. Hence the rest of his rant is mute. Basically his words long ago. He owns up to his words. Apparently you and the Lib Headcase didn’t get his memo.

    We’re still on the Constitution and why Libtards hate it. You haven’t answered why y’all hate it. So why do you need all these HNMMT names on HA? Sixty three and counting. Just admit to whom you really are and drop the charade dorkface.

    You tried to change the subject. Good try. You can’t describe why libtards in the MSM and libtard leaders got upset over the Republicans reading it.

    Naturally Lib Headcase doesn’t get it. Chronological order. Something always missing by a libtard.

    12/13/2011 at 8:53 am

    Gut a news flash for the puddywuddyduddypussy…

    …klownservatives like you are out to DESTROY the Constitution and the protections it guarantees.

    So just shut the fuck up.

  124. 166

    puddybud spews:

    Butt since you are a lazy morons headless and Headcase,

    You both seem to forget the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments, delivered by Republicans. Replay who voted for what!

    13th – Banned Slavery in the US.

    14th – Guaranteed equal protection and due process to all Americans

    15th – Gave every American the right to vote.

    NASA started by Eisenhower – which gave us the computer chip, the microwave, scratch resistant lenses, ear thermometer, invisible braces, memory foam to sleep on, and many other things.

    The Interstate Highway System was conceived by Dwight Eisenhower. Wasn’t he a Republican?

    Republicans helped Booker T. Washington create Tuskegee Institute.

    Republicans helped create Hampton University.

    Republicans defeated the Soviets in the Cold War remember the howls of DUMMOCRAPTS over Reagan’s “Mr Gorbachev, tear down this wall” comment?

    Public Education per the DOPEY Rabbit? You old historical revisionist. Department of Education – Created by Republican President Grant so all Americans could get an education. Once the Republican developed 15th Amendment was finally ratified, blacks could vote. Blacks supported the Republican party. Great try DOPEY Rabbit.

    No Child Left Behind – Republican GW Bush. Guess who voted against it? John Conyers, Bwaney Fwank and Maxine Waters. Yeah those three DUMMOCRAPT losers.

    Who led the charge to desegregate schools? President Dwight D. Eisenhower. Wasn’t he a Republican?

    Forced busing for desegregation. White flight from DUMMOCRAPT led cities followed… BIG TIME in northern DUMMOCRAPT controlled cities such as Boston, NYC, Philadelphia to suburbs

    Somehow Roger DOPEY Rabbit and his DOPEY crew of slave followers forgot these DUMMOCRAPT un-achievements

    Civil Rights Act – Hated by these DUMMOCRAPTS: Richard Russell, Sam Ervin of Watergate, Robert Byrd the Grand Kleagle, J. William Fulbright Bill Clinton’s political mentor, Albert Gore Sr. father and political mentor of Al Gore Jr. Gore Jr. lied about his father’s opposition to the Civil Rights Act all filibustered it.

    Voting Rights Act – 24-day filibuster by DUMMOCRAPTS. Approved by Republicans

    Lifelong DUMMOCRATS against school desegregation
    George Wallace Democrat Governor of Alabama, Lester Maddox Democrat Governor of Georgia, and another Bill Clinton political hero, Orval Faubus Democrat Governor of Arkansas

    Japanese Internment Camps during World War II – An FDR classic.

    Hugo Black a member of SCOTUS. He was a Ku Klux Klan member. Nominated by FDR.

    Robert Byrd – Remember he died a DUMMOCRAPT once said “I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds”

    Ernest Hollings – Remember he is a lifelong DUMMOCRAPT said “South Carolina would not permit ‘explosive’ manifestations in connection with Negro demands for lunch-counter services.”

    Richard Gephardt – Remember he’s a lifelong DUMMOCRAPT – Never wanted to discuss his involvement with a supremacist org, Metro South Citizens Council asking for their endorsement.

    I already discussed what northern libtardos did to H Carl McCall. Remember life long northern DUMMOCRAPT Andrew Cuomo, now NYS guvnur? Back in 2001 Cuomo denied saying that voting for Carl McCall would create “Carl would be the second installment in that contract, that racial contract, and that can’t happen.” Then the tape appeared. DUMMOCRAPTS will lie and lie and lie about their racism.

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    spews:

    166. puddybud spews:

    Butt since you are a lazy morons headless and Headcase,

    You both seem to forget the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments, delivered by Republicans. Replay who voted for what!

    13th – Banned Slavery in the US.

    14th – Guaranteed equal protection and due process to all Americans

    15th – Gave every American the right to vote.

    NASA started by Eisenhower – which gave us the computer chip, the microwave, scratch resistant lenses, ear thermometer, invisible braces, memory foam to sleep on, and many other things.

    The Interstate Highway System was conceived by Dwight Eisenhower. Wasn’t he a Republican?

    Republicans helped Booker T. Washington create Tuskegee Institute.

    Republicans helped create Hampton University.

    Republicans defeated the Soviets in the Cold War remember the howls of DUMMOCRAPTS over Reagan’s “Mr Gorbachev, tear down this wall” comment?

    Public Education per the DOPEY Rabbit? You old historical revisionist. Department of Education – Created by Republican President Grant so all Americans could get an education. Once the Republican developed 15th Amendment was finally ratified, blacks could vote. Blacks supported the Republican party. Great try DOPEY Rabbit.

    No Child Left Behind – Republican GW Bush. Guess who voted against it? John Conyers, Bwaney Fwank and Maxine Waters. Yeah those three DUMMOCRAPT losers.

    Who led the charge to desegregate schools? President Dwight D. Eisenhower. Wasn’t he a Republican?

    Forced busing for desegregation. White flight from DUMMOCRAPT led cities followed… BIG TIME in northern DUMMOCRAPT controlled cities such as Boston, NYC, Philadelphia to suburbs

    Somehow Roger DOPEY Rabbit and his DOPEY crew of slave followers forgot these DUMMOCRAPT un-achievements

    Civil Rights Act – Hated by these DUMMOCRAPTS: Richard Russell, Sam Ervin of Watergate, Robert Byrd the Grand Kleagle, J. William Fulbright Bill Clinton’s political mentor, Albert Gore Sr. father and political mentor of Al Gore Jr. Gore Jr. lied about his father’s opposition to the Civil Rights Act all filibustered it.

    Voting Rights Act – 24-day filibuster by DUMMOCRAPTS. Approved by Republicans

    Lifelong DUMMOCRATS against school desegregation
    George Wallace Democrat Governor of Alabama, Lester Maddox Democrat Governor of Georgia, and another Bill Clinton political hero, Orval Faubus Democrat Governor of Arkansas

    Japanese Internment Camps during World War II – An FDR classic.

    Hugo Black a member of SCOTUS. He was a Ku Klux Klan member. Nominated by FDR.

    Robert Byrd – Remember he died a DUMMOCRAPT once said “I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds”

    Ernest Hollings – Remember he is a lifelong DUMMOCRAPT said “South Carolina would not permit ‘explosive’ manifestations in connection with Negro demands for lunch-counter services.”

    Richard Gephardt – Remember he’s a lifelong DUMMOCRAPT – Never wanted to discuss his involvement with a supremacist org, Metro South Citizens Council asking for their endorsement.

    I already discussed what northern libtardos did to H Carl McCall. Remember life long northern DUMMOCRAPT Andrew Cuomo, now NYS guvnur? Back in 2001 Cuomo denied saying that voting for Carl McCall would create “Carl would be the second installment in that contract, that racial contract, and that can’t happen.” Then the tape appeared. DUMMOCRAPTS will lie and lie and lie about their racism.

    12/13/2011 at 10:34 am

    Every last example is typical puddywuddyduddypussy twisting.

    EVERY FUCKING ONE.

    The lying p.o.s. puddywuddyduddypussy couldn’t make an honest argument if he tried…and of course, why should he try? The puddywuddyduddypussycan trot out ALL of his really embarrassing idiotic clownspiracy theories and throw them in the faces of the supposed “godless heathens” here at HA.

    This post of the puddywuddyduddypussy is a fine example of the loony-toons shit the puddywuddyduddypussy pulls out of his fevered imagination.

    Really classic. I am going to print it out and frame it.

    This is what the rank and file republican has been reduced to. Believing shit like this about other Americans.

    Fucking LIAR puddywuddyduddypussy. Mother fucking liar puddywuddyduddypussy.

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    spews:

    http://www.ellenwhiteexposed.com/criticc.htm

    Solitary Vice [masturbation]
    By D. Anderson
    If you are a child, this page is NOT for you! Click here to go back

    ——————————————————————————–

    Seventh-day Adventist prophetess Ellen G. White proclaimed solitary vice [also known as “self abuse” or masturbation] caused a wide range of dangerous diseases and serious afflictions:

    “Children who practice self-indulgence [masturbation] previous to puberty, or the period of merging into manhood or womanhood, must pay the penalty of nature’s violated laws at that critical period. Many sink into an early grave, while others have sufficient force of constitution to pass this ordeal. If the practice is continued from the age of fifteen and upward, nature will protest against the abuse she has suffered, and continues to suffer, and will make them pay the penalty for the transgression of her laws, especially from the ages of thirty to forty-five, by numerous pains in the system, and various diseases, such as affection of the liver and lungs, neuralgia, rheumatism, affection of the spine, diseased kidneys, and cancerous humors. Some of nature’s fine machinery gives way, leaving a heavier task for the remaining to perform, which disorders nature’s fine arrangement, and there is often a sudden breaking down of the constitution; and death is the result.”1
    “Some who make a high profession do not understand the sin of self-abuse and its sure results. Long-established habit has blinded their understanding. They do not realize the exceeding sinfulness of this degrading sin, which is enervating the system and destroying their brain nerve power.”2

    “I saw that the family of Brother G__ need a great work done for them. H__ and I__ have gone to great lengths in this crime of self-abuse; especially is this true of H__, who has gone so far in the practice of this sin that his intellect is affected, his eye-sight is weakened, and disease is fastening itself upon him.”3

    “He had practiced self-abuse until he was a mere wreck of humanity. This vice was shown me as an abomination in the sight of God. … The results of self-abuse in them is seen in various diseases, such as catarrh, dropsy, headache, loss of memory and sight, great weakness in the back and loins, affections of the spine, the head often decays inwardly. Cancerous humor, which would lay dormant in the system their life-time, is inflamed, and commences its eating, destructive work. The mind is often utterly ruined, and insanity takes place.”4

    According to the above quotes, the following health problems are caused by masturbation:

    1. Brain weakened
    2. Cancerous tumors

    3.Catarrh

    4. Dropsy

    5. Eye-sight weakened

    6. Headache
    7. Head decay
    8. Insanity

    9. Kidney disease

    10. Liver disease

    11. Lung disease

    12. Memory loss
    13. Nervous system damage
    14. Neuralgia

    15. Pains in the system

    16. Premature death

    17. Rheumatism

    18. Spinal weakness/problems

    This is the kind of shit that the Puddybuddy follows.

  127. 169

    No Time for Oligarchies spews:

    puddy, rabbit was talking about liberal and conservative accomplishments. Not party affiliation, liberal vs conservative.

    Liberals gave us the Constitution, Bill of Rights, free speech, a free press, freedom of religion, the rule of law, and due process of law.

    Liberals gave us the 40-hour work week, overtime pay, minimum wage, child labor laws, workplace safety laws, injured workers benefits, unemployment insurance, collective bargaining rights, the G.I. Bill and veterans benefits, and Social Security and Medicare.

    Liberals gave us free public education, the cornerstone of our democracy and economic prosperity.

    Liberals gave us consumer protection laws, public health programs, and environmental laws that cleaned up the air we breathe and the water we drink.

    You are listing republicans and democrats. Not the same thing.

    Back then, republicans WERE the liberals. It wasn’t till the 1960s when republicans became conservative.

    What I ask was, what accomplishments have conservatives brought us? You can only bring us guns.

  128. 170

    No Time for Oligarchies spews:

    In America Today, Republican President Dwight D. Eisenhower Would Be Bernie Sanders in the U.S. Senate

    “Workers have a right to organize into unions and to bargain collectively with their employers. And a strong, free labor movement is an invigorating and necessary part of our industrial society.”

    “Only a fool would try to deprive working men and women of their right to join the union of their choice.”

    “Should any political party attempt to abolish Social Security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes you can do these things, but their number is negligible and they are stupid.
    —Republican President Dwight Eisenhower

    Can you see Ginrich saying that?

    Republican President Dwight Eisenhower, president when the top tax bracket for the richest people in this country was 92 percent. President Eisenhower defended that tax bracket. He said we cannot afford to reduce taxes until, quote, “the factors of income and outgo will be balanced.” Eisenhower insisting there must be a balanced budget and that taxes on the rich are the way to balance it.

    The Republican Party platform of Eisenhower’s 1956 called for expansion of Social Security, broadened unemployment insurance, better health protection for all of our people. It called for voting rights–full voting civil rights for D.C. It called for expanding the minimum wage to cover more workers. It called for improved job safety for workers, equal pay for workers regardless of sex.

    Eisenhower was a republican who did a lot of liberal things.

    What have conservatives brought us?

  129. 171

    puddybud spews:

    To explain how stupid in history rujax is…

    Your hero Margaret Sanger was also against masturbation. From the WikiPedia article you so happily copied…

    Sanger wrote that masturbation — both actual and mere fantasizing — was wasteful and harmful. Sanger believed that women had the ability to control their sexual impulses, and should utilize that control to avoid sex outside of relationships marked by “confidence and respect.” She believed that exercising such control would lead to the “strongest and most sacred passion.”

    This is why rujax is an idiot. He dodsn’t even read and comprehend what he places on this board.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  130. 172

    Michael spews:

    Eisenhower was actually recruited by both the Democrats and the Republicans to run on their ticket. Could you see them both going after the same guy today? Could you see someone getting to be the top general in the USA and no one knowing about his personal politics?

    Things change over time.

    ********************************************************

    And Puddy, that internment camp that my grandma Doris was in came at the end of 30 years of race baiting and was done at the behest of locals. Mostly Republicans, but not all.

    Fast forward and we had Republicans calling for internment camps for AIDS patients in the 1980’s, calling internment camps for middle eastern folks after 9/11, and trying to make the claim (see Michelle Malkin) that the WWII internments weren’t a mistake. The left only made that mistake once.

    Mike Lowry (D) as a congressman introduced the first bill in congress calling for reparations.

    In the end reparations passed with help from both parties. Doing the right, moral, and good thing, doesn’t depend on political party. But, lately the Democrats seem to be more able to learn from our mistakes.

    In 1988, U.S. President Ronald Reagan signed the Civil Liberties Act of 1988, which had been sponsored by Representative Norman Mineta and Senator Alan K. Simpson – the two had met while Mineta was interned at a camp in Wyoming – which provided redress of $20,000 for each surviving detainee, totaling $1.2 billion dollars. The question of to whom reparations should be given, how much, and even whether monetary reparations were appropriate were subjects of sometimes contentious debate.[98]
    On September 27, 1992, the Civil Liberties Act Amendments of 1992, appropriating an additional $400 million to ensure all remaining internees received their $20,000 redress payments, was signed into law by President George H. W. Bush, who also issued another formal apology from the U.S. government.

  131. 173

    Michael spews:

    Your hero Margaret Sanger was also against masturbation.

    All sorts of people were against masturbation way back in the day. But, we learn from our mistakes and things change over time. We now know that’s it’s stupid to be against masturbation. Except for the handful of righties that are still singing that old song.

  132. 174

    puddybud spews:

    To headless oligarchy,

    Liberals in 1964 were DUMMOCRAPTS. The VRA and CRA were NOT passed by liberals.

    No Child Left Behind wasn’t by liberals.

    FDR was against desegregation. Papers at the time called him a socialist and a communist. That’s a fact. He’s held up as a hero by Hillary Clinton. She’s a liberal.

    All those comments I placed up there are from liberals.

  133. 176

    puddybud spews:

    Regarding Eisenhower being a liberal, wrong. He was a conservative. Nixon his VP was the conservative running in 1960. Kennedy was the liberal.

    WikiPedia considers FDR a liberal as do other historical sites.

    Good try.

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    spews:

    171. puddybud spews:

    To explain how stupid in history rujax is…

    Your hero Margaret Sanger was also against masturbation. From the WikiPedia article you so happily copied…

    This is why rujax is an idiot. He dodsn’t even read and comprehend what he places on this board.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    12/13/2011 at 1:54 pm

    HAHAHAHA…fucking nothing. The jack-off puddywuddyduddypussy doesn’t get it.

    I don’t give a flying fuck about Margaret Sanger or her views on the “Secret Vice” as the bat-shit crazy Ellen White called it…I don’t even give a flying fuck about the bat-shit crazy Ellen White and her goofy-ass “Seventh Day Adventist” cult of loony-toons like the puddywuddyduddypussy here.

    If truth be known…I don’t give a rat’s ass about the puddywuddyduddypussy except to point out what an absolute moron he is…with his dumbass little myopic twisted view of history and morality and religion and his virulent hatred for anybody other than his litle tribe of brainwashed, braindead crazies.

    Not all Democrats are good, not all Republicans are bad. But it has been my DIRECT experience that the worst uses and abuses of government have come at the hands of Republican Presidents, Legislators, Think-Tanks, PACS and political operatives. From the lying weasel Reagan to the dumb-as-a-brick Geo. W. Bush…from the genuinely evil Lee Atwater to the really dangerous Karl Rove and the unelected Czar of .

    The puddywuddyduddypussy can brainlessly prattle all he wants about this and that…

    …the more the puddywuddyduddypussy prattles the stupider he looks, IF such a thing is possible.

  135. 178

    No Time for Oligarchies spews:

    r“The VRA and CRA were NOT passed by liberals.”

    Wow. Nice alternate history world you live in.

    Puddy, southern democrats in the early 1960s were conservative. Try to not get tripped up by the titles.

    The Voting Rights Act of 1965
    Echoing the language of the 15th Amendment, the Act prohibits states from imposing any “voting qualification or prerequisite to voting, or standard, practice, or procedure … to deny or abridge the right of any citizen of the United States to vote on account of race or color.” Specifically, Congress intended the Act to outlaw the practice of requiring otherwise qualified voters to pass literacy tests in order to register to vote, a principal means by which Southern states had prevented African-Americans from exercising the franchise. The Act was signed into law by President Lyndon B. Johnson, a Democrat, who had earlier signed the landmark Civil Rights Act of 1964 into law.

    Civil Rights Act
    The bill came before the full Senate for debate on March 30, 1964 and the “Southern Bloc” of 18 southern Democratic Senators and one Republican Senator led by Richard Russell (D-GA) launched a filibuster to prevent its passage. Said Russell: “We will resist to the bitter end any measure or any movement which would have a tendency to bring about social equality and intermingling and amalgamation of the races in our (Southern) states.”

    The most fervent opposition to the bill came from Senator Strom Thurmond (D-SC): “This so-called Civil Rights Proposals, which the President has sent to Capitol Hill for enactment into law, are unconstitutional, unnecessary, unwise and extend beyond the realm of reason. This is the worst civil-rights package ever presented to the Congress and is reminiscent of the Reconstruction proposals and actions of the radical Republican Congress.”[9]

    Please explain to me how the Civil Rights Act and the The Voting Rights Act of 1965 were passed by conservatives.

    This is going to be good.

  136. 179

    Michael spews:

    @176

    Regarding Eisenhower being a liberal, wrong. He was a conservative.

    Where did anyone claim he was a liberal? I saw a claim that by todays standards he’d be a liberal and I posted that neither party knew his party affiliation prior to him running as a Republican.

  137. 180

    No Time for Oligarchies spews:

    I claimed Eisenhower acted liberal and enacted many liberal policies.

    Just like I would claim Obama acts like a moderate conservative republican and has put in place, many, many moderate conservative policies.

    But Puddy is not capable of nuance and may have misunderstood me.

  138. 182

    puddybud spews:

    I don’t give a flying fuck about Margaret Sanger or her views on the “Secret Vice” as the bat-shit crazy Ellen White called it…I don’t even give a flying fuck about the bat-shit crazy Ellen White and her goofy-ass “Seventh Day Adventist” cult of loony-toons like the puddywuddyduddypussy here.

    Well you surely ran to her earlier in the week using her as an attack! So which is it rujax

    1) You R a moron
    2) You R an idiot
    3) You R stupid
    4) All of the above.

    Puddy chooses #4 to describe rujax!

    Wait for it…

  139. 183

    puddybud spews:

    Have you noticed headless oligarchy will not touch how liberals are trying to decimate the US Constitution… He’s totally derailed that train with this liberal / conservative argument.

    Nuanced? You skipped right over the continuing constitution discussion. It was a loser for you so you had to change tack. And now he wants me to discuss the liberal / conservative conundrum. He can’t discuss the Constitution because he HAS NO ARGUMENT! Liberals want to destroy the US Constitution.

    This Pew Study PROVES the Left tend to favor a reinterpretation of the Constitution. 65% percent of DUMMOCRAPTS think the Constitution should be read according to what it means today. That figure jumps to 80% for self-described “solid liberals.”

    So headless oligarchy, Y R U running away from the original discussion? Admit liberals are trying to destroy the greatest document on the earth and we’ll go back to your arguments above.

    See ya!

  140. 184

    No Time for Oligarchies spews:

    Rabbit posted about liberals and conservatives. You went off on a tangent, and tried to change the subject about some made up controversy about the constitution. That wasn’t what the discussion was about.

    But since you asked…

    The Constitution has been changed for the better by liberals for years. Which version of the unchanging Constitution do you cleave to? The version where women couldn’t vote? The version with or without the bill of rights? The version were slaves were only a fraction of a person?
    Are you going to defend THAT Constitution?

  141. 185

    No time for Oligarchies spews:

    Claiming that conservatives brought us the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act because some of them voted for the bills,
    is like
    your wife thinking up a meal,
    your wife shopping for the meal,
    your wife prepping the meal,
    your wife cooking the meal,
    your wife putting the meal into serving dishes,
    and you taking a dish to the dinner table,
    and then you claiming you were responsible for the meal.