Friday Night Multimedia Extravaganza!

Thom: The Good, The Bad, and the Very, Very Ugly.

Olbermann with Ali Soufan on misinformation about success of torture & waterboarding.

President Obama marks the 10th anniversary of 9/11.

Stephen: Michael Moore admits he’s a bigot….

The Republican Primary Asylum:

Roy Zimmerman: My Conservative Girlfriend:

Stephen on FEMA’s waffle house index.

David Schuster and comedian Katie Halper on the revelations in Joe McGinniss’ book about Sarah Palin.

Sam Seder: The future of Libya.

Jon: Obama’s Solyndra scandal.

Thom: More Good, Bad and Very, Very Ugly.

Ann Telnaes: The GOP base.

Anthropogenic Climate Change:

Thom: The Good, The Bad, and the Very, Very Ugly.

Pap: Chamber of Commerce at odds with reality.

Ann Telnaes: GOP bathroom reading.

The PA Plan:

ONN: Landmark civil rights act made racism slightly less overt.

Glenn Beck is BACK…as Worst Person in the World.

Thom: If you don’t have a job, you’re not free.

Pap: America’s income disparity explained.

Liberal Viewer: California ending the death penalty?

White House: West Wing Week.

The American Jobs Act:

Young Turks: Panic!

Jon on NY’s 9th District.

Sam Seder: FBI investigating Scott Walker?

Thom: Republicans unfazed by 15% of all Americans now poor.

Last week’s Friday Night Multimedia Extravaganza can be found here.

Comments

  1. 1

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    I think Rachel Beckwith’s charity, which has already surpassed its $300 goal, will reach $1.25 million. With 13 days to go, she needs only $2,507 more to hit the million-and-a-quarter mark. But I’d like to see her reach $1,250,300 so her family can say she exceeded her fundraising goal by $1.25 million.

    http://mycharitywater.org/p/ca.....n_id=16396

  2. 2

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    After Rachel’s fundraising ends, I think we should take up a collection to send our friend Puddybud to therapy. He appears to have a persecution complex. See Open Thread 9/16 below.

  3. 3

    Puddybud, who's friend said about the arschloch "Only a wrongheaded meatball would deny that truth can come from anywhere." spews:

    I think we should take up a collection to send our friend Puddybud to therapy. He appears to have a persecution complex. See Open Thread 9/16 below.

    Nope you dope.

    But since you raised the issue, I think we should take up a collection to send your friend Roger DOPEY Rabbit to therapy. He appears to have a bestiality complex. See an Open Thread below where he claims to “fuck 50 bunnies”. I’ve met the man and he needs oxygen assistance to play with himself!

  4. 4

    Puddybud, who's friend said about the arschloch "Only a wrongheaded meatball would deny that truth can come from anywhere." spews:

    Colbert celebrates Ron Paul gaining the coveted ’shit faced vote’. Just visit the Ron Paul FB page. You’ll see all the ’shit faced voting’ DUMMOCRAPTS for Ron Paul. This is old news!

  5. 5

    Puddybud, who's friend said about the arschloch "Only a wrongheaded meatball would deny that truth can come from anywhere." spews:

    You could have included a link where scores of people died and were injured at the Nevada Air Show.

    But that would demonstrate compassion. DUMMOCRAPTS don’t have the compassion gene!

    Remember them in your prayers.

  6. 6

    Zotz sez: Pudpuller's mom has goat pox. spews:

    Mo-om! That crazy black guy is exposing himself again!

    Don’t look, you’ll just encourage him. Just ignore him, honey.

  7. 7

    Puddybud, who's friend said about the arschloch "Only a wrongheaded meatball would deny that truth can come from anywhere." spews:

    Thanks Zotz.

    Such compassion! Right on time!

  8. 8

    Puddybud, who's friend said about the arschloch "Only a wrongheaded meatball would deny that truth can come from anywhere." spews:

    Or Darryl could have put up the fact Texas government jobs were lost while private industry keeps on hiring.

    Oh wait, the leftist dolt Michael parroted Chris Matthews in another thread!

  9. 9

    Puddybud, who's friend said about the arschloch "Only a wrongheaded meatball would deny that truth can come from anywhere." spews:

    Or Darryl could have posted the ABC link where they exposed the lie of the Bush Administration was going to approve Solyndra. Oops it was another of Michael’s lies!

    The results of the Congressional probe shared Tuesday with ABC News show that less than two weeks before President Bush left office, on January 9, 2009, the Energy Department’s credit committee made a unanimous decision not to offer a loan commitment to Solyndra.

  10. 10

    Liberal Scientist wonders why humans have such a predilection for mythology and superstition spews:

    Or Darryl could have put up the fact Texas government jobs were lost while private industry keeps on hiring.

    Oh, there you go again, puddy. Is it simple, sheer stupidity, or mendacity? It seems, when dealing with Repulicans, things seem to always boil down to that question, whatever the original topic.

    Just Google ‘myth perry job miracle’ and you get this:

    From Krugman,

    In June 2011, the Texas unemployment rate was 8.2 percent. That was less than unemployment in collapsed-bubble states like California and Florida, but it was slightly higher than the unemployment rate in New York, and significantly higher than the rate in Massachusetts.

    1 in 4 Texans lacks health insurance, the highest proportion in the nation

    almost 10 percent of Texan workers earn the minimum wage or less, well above the national average — and these low wages give corporations an incentive to move production to the Lone Star State.

    The point is that arguing from this experience that depressing wages and dismantling regulation in America as a whole would create more jobs — which is, whatever Perry may say, what Perrynomics amounts to in practice — involves a fallacy of composition: Every state can’t lure jobs away from every other state.

    From the Financial Times:

    While Texas has created more jobs than any other state in the past two years, the increase is far less than advertised. The rate of increase is not much higher than a number of other states, including former rustbelt centers like Pennsylvania or liberal sanctuaries like Vermont.

    …most of its good fortune rests on conditions that are not replicable elsewhere. Soaring oil prices…

    According to a recent analysis in the Ft. Worth Star-Telegram, state debt grew by 282 percent over the last decade, a slightly faster rate of increase than the ostensibly more profligate federal government. Local government debt in Texas grew by a heady 220 percent over the same period.

    Texas also benefited during the downturn by having tighter housing finance rules – a stark contrast to the business-friendly regulatory environment Perry likes to tout.

    The state added 45,000 natural resource extraction jobs since the jobs trough of the recession. That was 15 percent of all the new jobs added in the state.

    Dick Lavine, the senior fiscal analyst for the Center for Public Policy Priorities, an Austin-based think tank. “There’s nothing like the proceeds from $100 barrel oil flowing straight into the budget.”

    The result is that while state and local governments nationwide have eliminated over 400,000 jobs in the past year, government employment in Texas actually grew. There are now 1.66 million state and local government employees in Texas, an increase of 66,000 in the past two-and-a-half years.

    But that’s about to change. …Perry and the Republican legislature slashed over $5 billion from state education budgets in order to avoid raising other taxes…

    …as many as 50,000 out of 333,000 teacher jobs could be eliminated in the next two years….the state expects to add 80,000 new students to its 4.8 million pupil population next year.

    Richard W. Fisher, president of the Dallas Federal Reserve Board…noted that a recent study ranked Texas “dead last in the percent of the population age 25 and older that graduated from high school, 37th in percent of population enrolled in degree-granting institutions, 35th in academic research and development, and 41st in science and engineering degrees awarded.


    New York Magazine
    suggests another boon, this on quite illicit, to the Texas economy – drug money:

    Sixty percent of the U.S.’s southwestern border is part of Texas, and it’s the 60 percent that smugglers like best…Texas dominates drug entry into the U.S… DEA’s rough guess is that $27 billion in drug proceeds flow back out of the U.S. to Mexico, Colombia, and so on. And another pot of money stays here.

    Jack Schumacher, a recently retired Texas-based DEA agent, says that at least half the drug shipments coming from Mexico stop and offload in Texas. The product is repackaged in small units and resold at a considerable markup, with a share of the gross staying in the state. Even some of the money that gets expatriated to Mexico winds up back in Texas, laundered through Mexican currency exchanges. The state’s relative security is the draw. “If you have a few million,” says Schumacher, “would you invest in a war zone or a bank in San Antonio?”

    Robert Gibbs, on NBC:

    They’re going to wonder why a guy who doesn’t like the government, the largest employer in Texas is Ft. Hood and the army base. $25 billion from Economic Recovery Act went to Texas and helped Rick Perry balance his budget. They’re going to wonder why, quite frankly, they’re 47th in wages just like they’re going to wonder why Mitt Romney, when he was governor of Massachusetts, was 47th in job creation.

    Texas miracle my ass. I think puddy really likes Perry because Perry’s solutions to problems are either to cut taxes, execute more black people, or organize ostentatious stadium-sized prayer-fests. The man is classic snake oil salesman.

  11. 11

    Liberal Scientist wonders why humans have such a predilection for mythology and superstition spews:

    Oops, the second source above should be Fiscal Times, not Financial Times, link here.

  12. 12

    Liberal Scientist wonders why humans have such a predilection for mythology and superstition spews:

    This is an interesting post at dailykos right now…Headline:

    Texas unemployment rate hits highest level since before Perry endorsed Gore

  13. 13

    Liberal Scientist wonders when Republicans will be done with the charade and finally just start using the Hitler Salute spews:

    This is a powerful, must-read diary by a sister about her brother’s death, and a stark look at the plight of dying without insurance in the Greatest Country in the History of the Universe(tm).

    Republicans are bloodthirsty protofascist superstitious knuckledragging threats to the welfare of good-hearted people everywhere.

  14. 14

    Liberal Scientist wonders when Republicans will be done with the charade and finally just start using the Hitler Salute spews:

    Excellent – MoveOn making a hard-hitting commercial about the deafening silence of the the Republicans who would be President in the face of the bloodthirsty Teahaddists yelling “Yeah!” to the question whether to “Let him die?”

    What is wrong with these people?
    Pud, these are your ‘peeps’ – whence the compassion? For this bunch of Bible-thumpers, did they forget the Good Samaritan?
    How is it that this most religion-soaked, mawkish, Jesus-peddling, “‘merka is a Christian nation” rabble can so deftly and unapologetically turn its back on its supposed core beliefs?

    Well, I suppose it’s because its real core beliefs are greed and tribalism, and its heart is cold as a stone.

  15. 15

    Liberal Scientist wonders when Republicans will be done with the charade and finally just start using the Hitler Salute spews:

    More on “All Hat, No Cattle” Rick Perry, this from over at Digby’s place, by thereisnospoon:

    Toxic Sludge Champ Rick Perry

    As Letterman said, you could practically smell Perry’s cologne trough the TV. The man is slick. Good thing there’s a lot of oil down there.

    Thing is, if he’s elected, we’re all gonna need some lube.

  16. 17

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @8 L.S. has done such a good job of taking you apart on this one that no further reply is needed.

  17. 18

    spews:

    while private industry keeps on hiring

    Wait! Huh? I thought the right wing ding line was that all private hiring was “halted” because of “Obamacare”…

    These wing ding loons are totally losing it on their propaganda.

  18. 22

    spews:

    Ali Soufan has been making the rounds on his book.

    Definitely worth a listen or a watch. Take your pick: NPR, Olbermann, whatnot.

    Totally destroys the torture lovers (like PuddyIdiot).

  19. 23

    Michael spews:

    OMGZ!!! I needs my guns to keep me safe! Crime’s just getting crazy.

    Washington (CNN) — Violent crime in the United States continues to drop significantly despite the difficult economic environment, according to new statistics released Friday by the Justice Department.
    According to the Crime Victimization Survey released annually by the Bureau of Justice Statistics, in 2010 violent crimes dropped about 13% among U.S. residents ages 12 or older.
    Crime has been declining for several years, but the decline reported by the survey for past year was about three times as great as annual declines recorded by the same survey during the previous nine years.

    Actually, haven’t heard the righty’s going nutz about crime lately, but give it some time they seem to bring that one up about once a year, even when it isn’t true.

  20. 25

    Michael spews:

    @19
    Even Gary Locke’s big on Dubuque!

    “These innovation hotbeds are not confined to any one part of the country.
    They’re thriving in places like Rochester, New York, and Dubuque, Iowa, and the Commerce Department is helping to create more.”
    Gary Locke > U.S. Secretary of Commerce, remarks at National League of Cities Congressional City Conference in
    Washington, D.C., March 16, 2010.

  21. 26

    Puddybud, whose leftist friend once said "Only a wrongheaded meatball would deny that truth can come from anywhere." spews:

    Texas miracle my ass.

    Where did I ever say I liked Rick Perry?

    Where did I bring up health insurance?

    Where did I bring up wages?

    So using your argument those 22.7 million jobs Clinton supposedly created over half were $7/hr jobs. Ask the serial arschloch plagiarizer what leftist east coast magazine ADMITTED it!

    You are a moron Lib UnScientist! Projecting again!

    BTW did you finally figger out conceptguerilla? Roger DOPEY Rabbit posted it forever and you missed Roger DOPEY Rabbit posts?

  22. 27

    Puddybud, whose leftist friend once said "Only a wrongheaded meatball would deny that truth can come from anywhere." spews:

    This is a powerful, must-read diary by a sister about her brother’s death

    And of course Lib UnScientist missed what Rick Perry said about the fool in the audience.

  23. 28

    Puddybud, whose leftist friend once said "Only a wrongheaded meatball would deny that truth can come from anywhere." spews:

    bloodthirsty Teahaddists yelling “Yeah!”

    It was one fool of a person who everyone has condemned. One person corroborated by PMSNBC!

  24. 29

    Puddybud, whose leftist friend once said "Only a wrongheaded meatball would deny that truth can come from anywhere." spews:

    @8 L.S. has done such a good job of taking you apart on this one that no further reply is needed.

    Ummm not so Roger DOPEY Rabbit! Try again!

  25. 30

    Puddybud, whose leftist friend once said "Only a wrongheaded meatball would deny that truth can come from anywhere." spews:

    Wait! Huh? I thought the right wing ding line was that all private hiring was “halted” because of “Obamacare”

    Nope you dope serial arschloch plagiarizer… it was reduced.

    Good try at your useless projection!

  26. 31

    Noevom spews:

    @17 LS has done such a good job of taking you apart on this one that no further reply is needed

    Oh, absolutely, and LS has such an incredibly BROAD reading list that also recommends him: DailyKos, MoveOn, Paul Krugman!

  27. 32

    Puddybud, whose leftist friend once said "Only a wrongheaded meatball would deny that truth can come from anywhere." spews:

    Ali Soufan, the same guy who said Clinton’s CIA knew about the hijackers? That’s in his previous book!

    In January, 2000, the CIA worked with the Malaysian government to photograph attendees of a meeting of terrorists in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Known terrorists, Khalid al Midhar; Nawaz al Hazmi; Tawfiq bin Attash [Khallad] were in attendance to plot both the bombing of the USS Cole, and the 9-11 airliner attacks on the World Trade Center in New York.

  28. 33

    Puddybud, whose leftist friend once said "Only a wrongheaded meatball would deny that truth can come from anywhere." spews:

    Oh wait… he said it again in this new book

    “For about a minute I stared at the pictures and the report, not quite believing what I had in my hands,” Mr. Soufan writes. Then he ran to a bathroom and vomited. “My whole body was shaking,” he writes. He believed the material, documenting a Qaeda meeting in Malaysia in January 2000, combined with information from the Cole investigation, might have helped unravel the airliner plot.

    Now who was preznit back then during both these incidents? So why did Keith Odormann skip over this?

  29. 34

    Puddybud, whose leftist friend once said "Only a wrongheaded meatball would deny that truth can come from anywhere." spews:

    Hmmm Ali Soufan, who Newsweek said there’s something wrong here back in 2010…

    “In fact, Padilla was arrested in May 2002, not 2003. . . . The information ‘[leading] to the arrest of Padilla’ could not have been obtained through the authorized use of EITs.” (The use of enhanced interrogations was not authorized until Aug. 1, 2002 and Zubaydah was not waterboarded until later that month.)

  30. 35

    Puddybud, whose leftist friend once said "Only a wrongheaded meatball would deny that truth can come from anywhere." spews:

    Ali Soufan, who claimed Zubayah was waterboarded unnecessarily but there’s some amiss here

    “Although CIA and DOJ witnesses told us that the CIA was waiting for DOJ approval before initiating the use of the EITs, the DOJ [Inspector General’s] Report indicates that such techniques may have been used on Abu Zubaydah before the CIA received oral or written approval from OLC.” – OPR, Office of Professional Responsibility Page 33

  31. 36

    Puddybud, whose leftist friend once said "Only a wrongheaded meatball would deny that truth can come from anywhere." spews:

    But there’s more for Ali Soufan to answer to… When you read the DOJ Inspector General’s Report

    “Gibson said he remained at the CIA facility until some time in early June 2002, several weeks after Thomas left, and that he continued to work with the CIA and participate in interviewing Zubaydah. . . . Gibson stated that . . . he did not have a ‘moral objection’ to being present for the CIA techniques because the CIA was acting professionally and Gibson himself had undergone comparable harsh interrogation techniques as part of U.S. Army Survival, Evasion, Resistance, and Escape (SERE) training.”

    And further reading produces this little tidbit…

    The Padilla Information:

    1) Acquired after the CIA began to apply the enhanced interrogation techniques

    2) Was definitely obtained by the CIA, and not Soufan at all

    So how much of this book is true and why was Keith Odormann so quick to put it out for libtardos. Well we all know why!

  32. 37

    spews:

    32-36 Did some right wing moronic idiot betray yet again his undying worship of the torturers of the Shrub misadministration??

    Or just babble incoherently for 5 comments?

    Oh my is his panties in a bunch! Must have struck a nerve!

    ROTFLMAO!

  33. 38

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    “2012 Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul’s 2008 campaign manager Kent Snyder died … at the age of 49 because he couldn’t get health insurance ….”

    Why didn’t the candidate revive him? Isn’t Ron Paul a doctor? Is he so fucking cheap he’d let his own campaign manager die unless he gets paid for a house call?

  34. 39

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    California GOP Straw Poll Results

    Ron Paul got 374 votes.
    Rick Perry got 244 votes.
    Mitt Romney got 74 votes.
    Michelle Bachmann got 64 votes.
    Jon Huntsman got 17 votes.
    Herman Cain got 15 votes.
    Newt Gingrich got 14 votes.
    Rick Santorum got 7 votes.

    California has 37.25 million people. So my question is: By what stretch of some newsroom editor’s imagination does this straw poll mean a fucking thing?

  35. 40

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Puddydope @ various: ” … Roger DOPEY Rabbit … ”

    I’m a rabbit, and rabbits aren’t supposed to be very smart; what’s your excuse?

  36. 42

    Puddybud, who found the serial arschloch plagiarizer saying "I’d be aping" spews:

    and rabbits aren’t supposed to be very smart;

    So you are self-described? Do tell!

    This is too precious! I have to save this one!DONE!

  37. 43

    Puddybud, who found the serial arschloch plagiarizer saying "I’d be aping" spews:

    Notice how the serial arschloch plagiarizer brought up Ali. I didn’t. Did anyone else besides Darryl in the headlines?

    NOPE YOU DOPE! Ali got smacked by Newsweek and we know they are LEFTISTS!

    I provided links so anyone can verify before trusting anything coming from Keith Odormann!

    The serial arschloch plagiarizer is a terrible worthless person!

    Sucks to know Clinton’s CIA knew about these guys and never told GWBush’s FBI before GWBush took office!

    Now we really know the truth after all!

  38. 44

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @36 Let’s see how smart the Busheviks were …

    “‘Abu Zubaydah was one of the top three leaders’ in al-Qaeda. – President George W. Bush

    “Abu Zubaydah was a ‘very senior al Qaeda operative.’ – Donald Rumsfeld

    “Abu Zubaydah was a ‘key terrorist recruiter and operational planner and member of Osama bin Laden’s inner circle.’ – White House spokesman Ari Fleischer

    Now contrast that with this:

    “After Abu Zubaydah’s capture, officials from the U.S. Government spoke out publicly about Abu Zubaydah’s supposed role in al-Qaeda. However, as would later be reported in 2009, the U.S. Government’s depiction of Abu Zubaydah was overly inflated and he was, as Justice Department Officials stated, “[t]he above ground support… To make him the mastermind of anything is ridiculous”, a “personnel clerk”, a “logistics chief”, and a “travel agent.” In fact, the CIA reportedly told Abu Zubaydah during his interrogation that they discovered he was not an al-Qaeda fighter, partner, or even a member.”

    Now let’s flip back to the Busheviks:

    “Top officials in the U.S. government refused to believe Abu Zubaydah was not the operative they believed him to be. The May 30, 2005 Department of Justice memo noted that while on-scene interrogators believed Abu Zubaydah no longer had any information to disclose, CIA Headquarters ordered additional waterboarding. The interrogators believed the waterboarding was ‘unnecessary.’ Orders for the additional waterboarding likely came from Dick Cheney directly. Additionally, the Bush White House and CIA officials couldn’t believe Abu Zubaydah didn’t have additional information. One official stated the pressure from upper levels of government was ‘tremendous,’ and that ‘[t]hey couldn’t stand the idea that there wasn’t anything new.’ The official said, ‘[t]hey’d say, “You aren’t working hard enough.” There was both a disbelief in what he was saying and also a desire for retribution – a feeling that “He’s going to talk, and if he doesn’t talk, we’ll do whatever.”‘”

    Now contrast that with what the U.S. government said in court (where, unlike SOU speeches, you go to jail for lying):

    “However, in September 2009, the United States Government finally admitted, during Abu Zubaydah’s habeas corpus petition, that Abu Zubaydah had never been a member of al-Qaeda, nor involved in the attacks on the African embassies in 1998, or the attacks on the United States on September 11, 2001. The motion, filed by the United States Government, states:

    “‘Evidence indicating that Petitioner is not a member of al-Qaida or had ideological differences with al-Qaida is not inconsistent with the factual allegations made in the Government’s factual return, because the Government has not contended in this proceeding that Petitioner was a member of al-Qaida or otherwise formally identified with al-Qaida. Pg. 35, 36

    “‘Respondent [The United States Government] does not contend that Petitioner [Abu Zubaydah] was a “member” of al-Qaida in the sense of having sworn a bayat (allegiance) or having otherwise satisfied any formal criteria that either Petitioner [Abu Zubaydah] or al-Qaida may have considered necessary for inclusion in al-Qaida. Nor is the Government detaining Petitioner [Abu Zubaydah] based on any allegation that Petitioner [Abu Zubaydah] views himself as part of al-Qaida as a matter of subjective personal conscience, ideology, or worldview. Pg. 36

    “‘The Government has not contended in this proceeding that Petitioner [Abu Zubaydah] had any direct role in or advance knowledge of the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001. Pg. 82

    “‘For example, for purposes of this proceeding the Government has not contended that Petitioner [Abu Zubaydah] had any personal involvement in planning or executing either the 1998 embassy bombings… or the attacks on September 11, 2001. Pg. 34′”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Zubaydah

    Hmmm.

    I can easily prove torture is ineffective. It’s simple. No matter how many times you waterboarded George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, and Donald Rumsfeld, you would have gotten no useful information from that. Because they didn’t have any.

  39. 45

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Zubaydah is under death sentence in Jordan. Why don’t we just hand him over to the Jordanians and let them kill him?

  40. 46

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @42 Be sure to save the rest of it, too, so you’re not quoting out of context. Because, you know, that’s a form of lying.

  41. 47

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @43 “Sucks to know Clinton’s CIA knew about these guys and never told GWBush’s FBI before GWBush took office! Now we really know the truth after all!”

    Let’s do a quick review of what pussybutt’s notion of “truth” is:

    “Bush’s approach in most situations seemed a reactive combination of calculations to avoid his father’s mistakes and to reject Clinton’s policies. This was especially clear in international affairs: in his first nine months he reversed Clinton’s policy toward China …; in the Middle East, by withdrawing U.S. involvement in the negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians; toward Korea, by abandoning the negotiated accord that had frozen the North’s nuclear program and by humiliating President Kim of South Korea …; by withdrawing U.S. support from the Kyoto treaty on global warming; and by forsaking Clinton’s efforts to address the dangers of international terrorism.

    “During the transition between administrations, National Security Adviser Sandy Berger arranged several extensive briefings on this last subject for Bush’s incoming national security adviser, Condoleeza Rice, and others on the Bush team, including Vice President Cheney. One briefing lasted half a day. Berger told them that Osama bin Laden was an ‘existential threat’ and told them that he wanted ‘to underscore how important this issue is.’ In another briefing, Richard Clarke, head of counterrorism in the NSC, the single most knowledgeable expert in the government, gave them a complete tutorial on the subject. In yet another briefing, CIA officials were brought in to go over all the intelligence available on terrorism.

    “Don Kerrick, a three-star general and outgoing deputy national security adviser, overlapped for four months with the new Bush people. He submitted a memo for the new National Security Council warning of the danger of terrorism. ‘We are going to be struck again,’ he wrote. But as Kerrick explained to me, he received no answer to his memo. ‘They didn’t respond,’ he said. ‘They never responded. It was not high on their priority list. I was never invited to one meeting. They never asked me to do anything. They were not focusing. They didn’t see terrorism as the big megaissue that the Clinton administration saw it as. They were concentrated on what they thought were higher priorities than terrorism.’ The Principals meeting of national security officials took up terrorism only once, after constant pressure from Clarke, on September 4, 2001, and at that meeting they discussed using unmanned Predator drone spy aircraft, but no decision was made. ‘Unfortunately,’ said Kerrick, ‘September 11 gave them something to focus on.’”

    — Sidney Blumenthal, The Clinton Wars (New York: Farrar, Strauss, and Giroux, 2003), pp. 797-798.

    Pussybutt gets bitch-slapped again! Ouch! That hurts!

  42. 48

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Puddinghead, you’re just making shit up, and it’s not fooling anyone except you, you self-deluding fool.

  43. 49

    spews:

    … it was reduced.

    Ohhhh I seee.. The folks in North Dakota intoxicated by industry and prosperity and free flowing credit from a state “gubmint” bank didn’t get the memo from Rush and Sean Insanity that they were supposed to “reduce” hiring since “Obamacare” was passed.

    Guess the right wing hate talk radio stations up there don’t carry too well!

    ROTFLMAO!!!

  44. 50

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    When I met puddy, he didn’t impress me as being so stupid as he appears in his comments, so maybe he’s just a damn Republican liar.

  45. 53

    Noevom spews:

    @41 @31 Paul Krugman has only one Nobel Prize; how many Nobel Prizes do you have?

    So what? So does Barack Obama, but I don’t see many HA followers swooning for him the way they did 30 months ago. And you certainly aren’t . . . ANYMORE!

  46. 54

    Puddybud, who found the serial arschloch plagiarizer saying "I’d be aping" spews:

    Let’s do a quick review of what pussybutt’s notion of “truth” is:

    Ummm DOPEY Rabbit… it’s Ali Soufan’s book where he says it ya moron! I didn’t write the book!

    The rest of that rant was just flushed down da toilet!

  47. 55

    Puddybud, who found the serial arschloch plagiarizer saying "I’d be aping" spews:

    Puddinghead, you’re just making shit up, and it’s not fooling anyone except you, you self-deluding fool.

    Let’s review Ali Soufan’s first book

    In January, 2000, the CIA worked with the Malaysian government to photograph attendees of a meeting of terrorists in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Known terrorists, Khalid al Midhar; Nawaz al Hazmi; Tawfiq bin Attash [Khallad] were in attendance to plot both the bombing of the USS Cole, and the 9-11 airliner attacks on the World Trade Center in New York.

    Now Ali Soufan’s second book the one making the rounds on all the leftist pinhead shows

    “For about a minute I stared at the pictures and the report, not quite believing what I had in my hands,” Mr. Soufan writes. Then he ran to a bathroom and vomited. “My whole body was shaking,” he writes. He believed the material, documenting a Qaeda meeting in Malaysia in January 2000, combined with information from the Cole investigation, might have helped unravel the airliner plot.

    Those are his words Roger DOPEY Rabbit! Too bad facts make you into a rabid rabbit! Looks like Clinton’s CIA hid it from GWBush’s FBI!

  48. 56

    Blue John spews:

    Arrg, I agree with Tim Eyeman. It’s not tolling, it’s taxing. The 1125 Tolling initiative makes sense! I’m voting for it, unless I learn something really important for voting against it. (I’m a progressive, I change my mind, if I get better facts)

    I-1125 asks voters to decide on eight questions:

    Should toll revenue collected from motorists be used for non-transportation purposes?
    — No

    Should road lanes funded by gas taxes and tolls be used for non-highway purposes?
    — No. No. No.

    Should toll revenue collected from motorists be restricted to highway purposes only?
    — Yes, otherwise it’s just a general tax

    Should tolls only be used for construction of a new road, or may tolls be used for ongoing maintenance and operations?
    — Yes, just for the new road.

    Should toll revenue be restricted to the roadway from which it was collected, or may toll revenue be used for other roads in other areas across the state?
    — Only on the road collected, other wise it’s a tax

    Should elected legislators set toll rates, or may they delegate that authority to an unelected commission?
    — It should decided by someone accountable, our elected legislators.

    Should toll rates be constant, or may they change based on certain criteria like time-of-day or traffic volumes?
    — This is the only element I could care less about.

    Should toll revenue collected from the I-90 bridge across Lake Washington be restricted to funding improvements to I-90, or may the new revenue be used to fund other roads, like the proposed SR-520 bridge replacement?
    — Restricted. Otherwise it’s a tax. See above.

    What say you all?

  49. 58

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    With utter predictability, Republicans are calling President Obama’s insistence that millionaires pay at least the same tax rates as their janitors and secretaries “class warfare.”

    “Republicans on Sunday decried the notion of a new minimum tax rate for millionaires as ‘class warfare,’ saying the proposal by President Obama may be intended to portray Congressional Republicans who resist it as being callously indifferent to the hardships facing many Americans.”

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44.....ork_times/

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: Obama doesn’t have to protray Republicans as callously indifferent to the hardships facing many Americans. Republicans do a fine job of that all by themselves, through such actions as opposing food stamps and unemployment extensions, and raising taxes on workers.

  50. 59

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    The thing to remember is that, as unpopular as Obama is with voters (as shown by recent polls), Republicans are even more unpopular.

  51. 60

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous Dep’t

    “A Russian tycoon has punched a fellow billionaire on a television panel show after a discussion on the financial crisis degenerated into petty name-calling.”
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44.....ws-europe/

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: So much for billionaires being role models.

  52. 61

    Somerepublicandullard spews:

    Should toll revenue collected from the I-90 bridge across Lake Washington be restricted to funding improvements to I-90, or may the new revenue be used to fund other roads, like the proposed SR-520 bridge replacement?

    Let’s see, tolls collected on the Seattle Tunnel will go to pay off the tunnel. Tolls collected on the new Narrows Bridge go to pay off the new bridge. Tolls collected on the Hood Canal Bridge went to pay off the Hood Canal Bridge. Tolls collected on the Monroe Street Bridge in Spokane (I think it was Monroe that was tolled) went to pay off the Monroe Street Bridge. I can’t remember if either of the Lake Washington Bridges were tolled, but I think one of them was.

    So yeah, I’d say that tolls collected on the I-90 bridge should go to the I-90 bridge. The past isn’t always the best guide to the future, but in this case I think it works.

  53. 62

    Michael spews:

    Auto complete strikes again! One of these days I’ll remember to check what name I’m posting under.

  54. 63

    Michael spews:

    Should elected legislators set toll rates, or may they delegate that authority to an unelected commission?
    – It should decided by someone accountable, our elected legislators.

    There’s a committee that sets tolls and such for the new Tacoma Narrows Bridge and it seems to be working just fine.

    Should toll rates be constant, or may they change based on certain criteria like time-of-day or traffic volumes?
    – This is the only element I could care less about.

    Variable tolling is the way to go, it evens out traffic flows and helps reduce congestion.

  55. 64

    Michael spews:

    But, we have to remember that not only are cars becoming more fuel efficient, fewer people are driving and people are driving fewer miles as well. These trends also predate the recession. Road work is also much more expensive in an $90 a barrel of oil world than it was in the past. Our current taxes will not be able to keep up with future road needs. We’ll either have to have have more toll roads and taxes or have fewer roads. Probably a mix of the two.

  56. 65

    Politically Incorrect spews:

    @53,

    Yes, the Milk Chocolate Messiah has fallen out of favor with the far left crowd, but he’s still all the Dems have.

  57. 66

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @56 “Should tolls only be used for construction of a new road, or may tolls be used for ongoing maintenance and operations?
    – Yes, just for the new road.”

    This makes no sense. Construction of a project is only one of the costs; maintenance over the life of the project also has to be factored into the total cost of the project. What’s the logic of building something if you’re not going to maintain and operate it?

  58. 68

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @53 “@41 @31 Paul Krugman has only one Nobel Prize; how many Nobel Prizes do you have?

    So what?”

    So plenty — it suggests he’s more qualified to talk about economics than you are.

  59. 69

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @53 Let me put it another way. Millions of people pay attention to what Krugman says; nobody pays attention to what you say.

  60. 70

    Politically Incorrect spews:

    @67,

    You mean “@65,” not “@66.”

    As for your comment, take yourself and shove yourself up your ass.

    Just hurry up and fucking die, rodent.

  61. 71

    Steve spews:

    @70 There you go again. So please tell me, is it that anybody you think is a know-it-all deserves to die, or do you just think leftist know-it-alls deserve to die? Or maybe it’s lefty former attorney/judge know-it-all rabbits who you believe deserve to die? You do understand, don’t you, that as long as we’re going to start dealing out death, someone here just might conclude that you are the one who deserves to die? Of course, I’m sure you do realize that some people can be extremely dangerous when harboring such thoughts, while for others death wishes are just meaningless words.

  62. 72

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Why Does The GOP Still Exist?

    “It’s a massive health care entitlement with unfunded future costs over $7 trillion. Many conservatives are still upset at the way it was rammed through Congress.

    “But when the Republican presidential candidates were asked last week asked if they would repeal the Medicare drug benefit, they said no way. After all, Republicans created it.

    “Republicans want to pull the plug on the health care overhaul they call ‘Obamacare,’ but that law is arguably less a deficit driver than the Medicare drug plan they are defending.”

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44569531/ns/politics/

    “Republicans on Sunday decried the notion of a new minimum tax rate for millionaires as ‘class warfare’ … in response to a White House assertion that … individuals making more than $1 million a year [should] pay at least the same percentage of their earnings as middle-income taxpayers.”

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44.....ork_times/

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: You have to be awfully ignorant or awfully stupid to vote Republican. A lot of people, it appears, are both.

  63. 73

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Okay. The argument for giving millionaires the special privilege of not paying taxes like the rest of us is they create jobs. The question, then, is where are the jobs?

  64. 74

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @71 If you’re referring to @68, I mean @66, not @65.

    Btw, the reason I told you to shove your racist comment up your ass, and didn’t tell you to shove yourself up your ass, is that would be hard to do because your head is already up your ass.

  65. 76

    Noevom spews:

    @68 So what?”

    So plenty — it suggests he’s more qualified to talk about economics than you are.

    @53 Let me put it another way. Millions of people pay attention to what Krugman says; nobody pays attention to what you say.

    Yes, well Milton Friedman has one too, and HA will never swoon over him. And as far as Krugman is concerned, many more tune him out, Nobel or not, including the administration, which the HA faithful couldn’t praise enough three years ago. You should know, despite your searing criticism of Obama now.

    Don’t be a bigger dope than you normally are, dumb bunny.

  66. 77

    Michael spews:

    Well yay,

    The Transportation Bill Passes 92-6:
    Moments ago, the Senate passed a clean extension on the Transportation Bill with a large margin of 92-6. This means that all current transportation funding and programs will continue to March 31, 2012 — the date the extension expires. During this time we will have much work to do to ensure that bicycling is included in either a long term transportation bill or another extension. The National Bike Summit conveniently takes place on March 20-22 — our final opportunity to tell our representatives that we need bicycling in the transportation bill.
    http://iowabike.blogspot.com/

  67. 78

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @76 “Milton Friedman has one too, HA will never swoon over him”

    As one Nobel laureate to another, Krugman called Friedman “a great economist and a great man” but criticized Friedman’s claims “that markets always work and that only markets work.”

    Meanwhile, libertarian economist Murray Rothbard questioned whether Friedman was “a free market economist at all.”

    (Wikipedia)

    Friedman’s economic views embrace two broad areas, monetarism and free markets. A subset of the latter is his ideas about government intervention in markets. His philosophy on these matters is often considered a counterpoint to Keynesianism.

    You are correct that most liberals don’t “swoon” over Friedman’s free market philosophy — most liberal economists and policymakers are Keynesians. You can be a Keynesian and still have reservations about the efficacy of regulation or intervention. But in light of history, it’s hard to make a case for no regulation or intervention at all. Why would anyone “swoon” over something that history has repeatedly shown doesn’t work?

  68. 80

    Puddybud, who found the serial arschloch plagiarizer saying "I’d be aping" spews:

    People often ask me what advice I would give the White House about various things. Today I was mulling over election results from New York and Nevada while thinking about that very question. What should the White House do now? One word came to mind: Panic. – James Carville

  69. 82

    Politically Incorrect spews:

    @71,

    I hate the rodent because he’s a self-important arrogant fucking asshole. He thinks he’s the smartest guy in the room, and that everyone should be kissing his ass constantly. He’s fucking in-love with himself, and I can’t wait for the day he drops dead.

    @74,

    You’re a racist, too, just not willing to admit you’ve got racist personality traits like everybody else. It goes way back – to tribal hunter/gatherer days. Everyone is a racist in one way or another, only you arrogant fucking cocksuckers are too full of yourselves to admit it. That’s why I get so much delight in calling Obama the Milk Chocolate Messiah because I know it pisses you off so much!

    Hurry up and drop dead, you fucking arrogant has-been!