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Friday Night Multimedia Extravaganza!

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Sam Seder: RNC Chair threatens NBC and CNN.

Alex Wagner: Sen. Ted Cruz’s anti-Everything.

Maddow: Cuccinelli’s gift scandal.

The G.O.P. Presidential Field:

Thom: More Good, Bad, and Very, Very Ugly.

John Oliver: Still no accountability for the Big Banks (via Crooks and Liars).

Pap: The G.O.P. is eating itself alive.

John Oliver grills Sen. Gillibrand about Wall Street donations.

Sharpton: FAUX News and Republican food stamp racism.

Liz Cheney Commits Fraud:

Bill Maher: N.C. W.T.F.:

Thom: Liberal State Rep. infiltrates ALEC.

Pap: Racism still motivates the Tea Party.

Young Turks: Sanjay Gupta on weed.

Daily Show tries to have a “frank and open” discussion on race (via Crooks and Liars).

Sam Seder: Moral Mondays keep growing.

Maddow: Shrinking U.S. budget is spoiling G.O.P. talking points.

Sheriff Hairspray (R-WA-08) thinks about higher office.

Bashir: Reince, blather, repeat.

NSA Spying Intelligence Gathering:

Young Turks: Sean Hannity’s propaganda machine is demoted.

Thom: The Good, The Bad, and The Very, Very Ugly.

Maddow: Florida G.O.P. makes another attempt at voter purge .

Sharpton: Obama debunks G.O.P. healthcare lies.

Some Ag-related communications company interviews Rep. Susan DelBene (D-WA-01)

White House: West Wing Week.

Young Turks: GOP continues to try and defund Obamacare.

Maddow: Ohio’s G.O.P. TRAPs Toledo’s last Abortion clinic.

John Fugelsang: Keep it up Tea Party:

Nutjob Rep. Gohmert: ‘Radical Islamists’ taking Spanish lessons ‘because we don’t fear Hispanics’ (via Crooks and Liars).

Red State Update: News of the Week Podcast episode 38.

Sharpton: Racist G.O.P. birfers call for ‘Muslim’ Obama’s impeachment.

Living Wage:

White House: Highlights from Obama’s Zillow interview.

Sharpton: Dead Voters? How about dead donors?

Alex Wagner: The Tea-bagger town hall “mating season” has began.

Maddow: Obamacare supporters trip up GOP’s town hall hate-meeting agendas.

Last week’s Friday Night Multimedia Extravaganza can be found here.

Comments

  1. 1

    Interesting to see Dr. Gupta admit that he should not have dismissed the medicinal effects of marijuana. I had admired him in the past for his coverage from disaster areas. Sometimes between reports, he would be treating the injured.

  6. 6

    Interesting Ezra Klein, talking about immigration from Mexico and the analysis of a Princeton professor, Doug Massey.

    His theory is that the militarization at the border did a number of things to INCREASE the number of undocumented Mexican immigrants who stayed in this country.

    The gist is, previously a porous border allowed migrants to return home relatively easily, and so there was back-and-forth – the draw of home is strong – but now, once across, people stay.

    Also, in the past, most crossed at San Diego or El Paso, and stayed in California and Texas (and Illinois for some reason – I’m sure cheapshot will tie this in to machine politics later for us *eye roll*) – now the crossings have been pushed to more diverse and rural places, and the migrants have tended to go other places as well and settle more diversely.

    It’s all quite interesting, and made me think of the Maginot Line – the series of fixed fortifications that the French built after WW1 to keep the Germans out – and which similarly failed miserably in 1940. I find it funny that the militarist Republicans are calling for technology that was obsolete in 1920 and to spends billions of dollars on it.

    Again, it’s either all for show – red meat for the nativist/racist base, or it’s monumental stupidity. Again, every damn time – “Stupid or lying” is the inevitable place you get when analyzing Republicans/Teahaddists/Talibangelicals/Conservatives (modern iteration).

    George Patton:

    “Fixed fortifications are a monument to the stupidity of man.”

  8. 8

    @ 6

    Seriously, Lib Sci, Klein spends very little time discussing other potential reasons immigrants didn’t return, such as a widening gap between opportunity in the US and opportunity in Mexico.

    If Mexico is falling further and further behind the US, economically, and if it’s easier and easier for immigrants in the US to send money back home, why should they return? You’re arguing that they have no trouble crossing in one direction, which the Border Patrol is trying to prevent, but that they fear crossing in the other direction, about which the Border Patrol couldn’t care less?

    It’s a little disingenuous to criticize the effectiveness of the border safeguards favored by the right and simultaneously to blame those safeguards for increasing percentages of immigrants staying in the US. They either work or they don’t. You don’t get it both ways.

  9. 9

    @ 6

    “Fixed fortifications are a monument to the stupidity of man.”

    I dunno. Seems to work pretty well in Israel. When there’s an existential threat, that technology ‘obsolete in 1920’ seems to be effective enough.

  11. 11

    @7,8

    Ahhh, the snide and stupid cheapshotBob has arrived.

    You really shouldn’t wade into things you don’t grasp.

    Here, let’s look…beginning of my second paragraph…

    His theory is that…

    It’s a theory – I know you right-wingers have a hard time with science, and the notion that ideas happen and then are discussed, tested, challenged, refined. I was bringing Klein’s discussion of Massey’s theories because they’re interesting and provocative, and might be correct, or partially so. You, and puddybigot, too, seem to have an inability to grasp nuance, or counter-intuitive notions, or the possibility that ‘accepted wisdom’ might be wrong.

    Look here…

    It’s a little disingenuous to criticize the effectiveness of the border safeguards favored by the right and simultaneously to blame those safeguards for increasing percentages of immigrants staying in the US. They either work or they don’t. You don’t get it both ways.

    See right there? That’s the point you’re missing – that militarized border defenses might be counter-productive to minimizing the number of undocumented Mexican immigrants who are staying – in the shadow economy. THAT’S THE POINT! Yes, I can criticize ‘border safeguards’ as being part of the problem – you don’t seem to grasp this. (I’m having deja vu all over again with you).

    Again…

    They either work or they don’t. You don’t get it both ways.

    You’re great with the catchy, condescending, snide phrasing, but you’re missing the point entirely. *sigh*. The novel notion here is that creating a heightened barrier tends to keep those that cross from crossing back, where in the past, there was ebb-and-flow. Also, the heightened ‘security’ tends to disperse the crossing points, and therefore disperse the locations where said migrants ultimately settle. These are both important considerations in understanding how these communities move and settle and otherwise behave.

    You say…

    You’re arguing that they have no trouble crossing in one direction…

    No, that’s not what Massey said. Think more subtly, cheapshot. You erect a severe barrier, and you may dissuade or capture a larger fraction on the initial crossing population, but those that do get across are now much more likely to stay across. You change the whole dynamics of the migratory patterns, in this way favoring staying once across.

    (You really need to try harder with the ‘reading for meaning’ stuff, and not just jump to simple conclusions that lend themselves to snide comments. You’re making yourself look dumb.)

    You also say this…

    If Mexico is falling further and further behind the US, economically, and if it’s easier and easier for immigrants in the US to send money back home, why should they return?

    You seem to have failed to read Klein’s article (again, this reading comprehension thingy is really tripping you up). From that piece…

    In recent years, the net inflow of new undocumented immigrants arriving from Mexico has fallen to zero. Some of the decline is due to the U.S. recession and a falloff in construction, which employed a lot of migrant workers. But some is due to an improving economy in Mexico, where unemployment is 5 percent and wages have been rising. “I personally think the huge boom in Mexican immigration is over,” Massey said.

    This, of course, calls into question the wisdom of further militarizing the US-Mexico border, from an entirely other perspective, one that doesn’t seem to be controversial – that the pressure for migration has drastically declined, and net undocumented migration is essentially nil at this point. See Pew study here (Watch out – data and graphs!!).

    One is forced to ask, when there’s noncontroversial data that net undocumented migration is nil, and there’s evidence that militarization of the border doesn’t work anyway, why are the right-wingers (like yourself) so hot to spend billions on more guards and guns and walls???

    Pandering to the base? The nativist, racist base? These guys? Or these (check out the nice Hitler salutes!)? Or these?

    Are you in any of those pictures, cheapshot?

  12. 12

    @10

    So that’s your criticism, that it’s ‘not new’? That’s a criticism how?

    Care to share you thoughts on the Cato/Massey ariticle? Have you read the 15 page paper, and analyzed it, or just found a link and are posting it…to give that impression?

    Does it provide new insight or critique of the Klein piece? Does it flesh out (I hope so) the Massey quotes and thoughts in the Klein piece?

    Please share your thoughts…or haven’t you read it yet?

  13. 13

    Over at DailyKos, in their round-up of state-level progressive blogs, is this, from Blue Oklahoma…

    Another anti-abortion editorial published in The Oklahoman is so excruciatingly disingenuous and so filled with false comparisons it deserves a mention if only for conducting a rhetoric analysis of juvenile argumentation.

    Are you writing for The Oklahoman now, cheapshot?

  18. 18

    When we give jail time to everyone who knowingly hires illegals, then the demand for their labor would dry up and they would have reason to come here.

  19. 19

    @ 12

    Just found the link. Had to go hunting for it. I actually do work for a living, even on Saturdays, and haven’t read it, yet.

    As for it not being new, I would point out that based on what I have seen online, the guy is fairly prominent in his field. My point is that a theory, as you mentioned @ 11, that has been around for at least 8 years might be more than just that if it’s been carefully evaluated and perhaps validated by some objective criteria. Klein doesn’t provide any. So…..

    Is it an old and discarded theory, resurrected by young Ezra because he needed a topic? Is it something I/we just haven’t spent much time on before, even though it’s currently a likely explanation for some of the demographic data we see?

    I don’t know. I put it out there. Back to work.

  20. 20

    @15. At floor 23, the first bank noticed there were no elevators, and yet they kept building….

  21. 21

    @ 20

    At floor 23, the first bank noticed there were no elevators, and yet they kept building….

    Maybe they can just grant an elevator waiver, or put off construction for a year, like with Obamacare.

  22. 22

    @14 and 17. It’s interesting how klassy Serial “Why can’t you see I’m the victim” Conn is, instead of agreeing that rape is bad, he attacks the messenger with gay insults. Why do you all think he would rather make gay insults than address the rape article?

  23. 23

    @21 It’s fascinating how Serial “Why can’t you see I’m the victim” Conn will try to link anything stupid or bad to his pet flogging theme of the week? Why do you think he does that when it just makes him look stupid?

  24. 24

    Why do you all think he would rather make gay insults than address the rape article?

    ’cause he’s a prick?

  25. 25

    @ 22-24

    I suppose I could ask what the behavior of four men barely into adulthood has to do with family values. But then that would require gman to express an intelligent thought, and we know that’s a wasted effort.

    Perhaps LibSci or NTfF could explain to me the link between the article and ‘family values’.

  26. 26

    @ 23

    …theme of the week

    My theme this week is anniversaries.

    On this date in 1945, one day after the Nagasaki bombing and four days after the one dropped on Hiroshima, Japan cried ‘Uncle’.

  27. 27

    @25 Now THAT is a rational question, but notice you didn’t ask that until called out on on your homophobia.

  29. 29

    @28

    Cheapshot, you didn’t respond to what gman said, or even the basis of his viewpoints; rather, as usual, you derided who he is, and what you imagine/fantasize are his sexual practices.

    Here’s a correction:

    Oh please. When was the last time cheapshotBob said anything worthy of anything more than derision?

  31. 31

    @19 “I actually do work for a living, even on Saturdays”

    I’m so sorry you have to work, but thank you for supporting the lifestyles of capitalists like me.

  32. 32

    @21 Just build them on the outside end walls like everybody else does nowadays. Easy retro fix.

  33. 33

    Serial “Why can’t you see I’m the victim” Conn, every so often you make sense, but it is drowned out by all the small minded, cheap shot, sniveling, petty, racist, homophobic, greedy, ignorant crap you spew. Just say’n.

  34. 34

    Besides the ongoing labor negotiations, BART is also expanding it’s network. Mostly in the South Bay. First an extension from Fremont to Warm Springs. Then another two phase extension that will eventually end up in Santa Clara. The first phase will be to Berryessa, but the srcond phase will be more expensive, with a tunnel in San Jose.
    http://www.progressiverailroad.....211;37226#

    The Berryessa extension as it is called, is tricky. Santa Clara is an opt-out county, they had a chance to be in on the ground floor, but chose not to. This means, any BART facilities built in Santa Clara County, Santa Clara is on the hook for, but BART will operate and maintain.

    http://www.vta.org/bart/faq.html

  35. 35

    Speaking of fraud and fishing expeditions …

    GOP Candidate Sentenced for Felony Fraud After Changing Party Affiliation of 300 Democratic Voters, Casting Absentee Ballots in Their Name

    With these 300 fraudulent votes created by one Republican candidate alone, that’s 300 more fraudulent votes than have ever been created by ACORN or anybody who has ever worked for them.

    But, of course, you’re unlikely to hear that, or even this story itself, from the tenacious Fox “News” “voter fraud special investigative unit” or the GOP clowns who help them disinform American voters.

    funny, isn’t it

  36. 36

    Hut Hut, throw me a long pass of Family Values.

    And Puddy bets 3/4’s if not all are Obummer goosesteppers. Did Bob Filner, or Eliot Spitzer give them pointers on how to treat wimens?

  40. 40

    Wow it seems McAuliffe could not take no! Hey it’s the NY Slimes the libtard daily record.

    He and his lawyers sent a stream of e-mails to a senior official in charge of approving foreign investments that Mr. McAuliffe sought, and he went up the chain of command to Janet Napolitano, the secretary of homeland security, documents show.

    When a meeting finally took place in 2011, the official seemed to burn with resentment that Mr. McAuliffe went over his head, recalled Charles Wang, the president of the car company. In his first interview since Mr. McAuliffe began his campaign for Virginia governor, Mr. Wang spoke about his former partner’s use of his political connections. He also discussed the role of a brother of Hillary Rodham Clinton, whom Mr. McAuliffe, 56, a Democratic fund-raiser close to the Clintons, brought to the company.

    Yet, no coverage of this on the Friday Night Comix from Da Perfessa. We all know why too!

  41. 41

    And of course this never made the Friday Night Comix either… Reid wants ObummerCare to fail too.

    When then asked by panelist Steve Sebelius whether he meant ultimately the country would have to have a health care system that abandoned insurance as the means of accessing it, Reid said: “Yes, yes. Absolutely, yes.”

    The idea of introducing a single-payer national health care system to the United States, or even just a public option, sent lawmakers into a tizzy back in 2009, when Reid was negotiating the health care bill.

    Truth… not found on Friday Night Comix… just 3rd and 4th tier libtard BOZOS!

  43. 43

    These were pretty good until gunpowder artillery was invented:

    http://tinyurl.com/mmyqejx

    One shot aimed at the base of the wall brings the whole wall down, then you simply walk across the rubble. You probably won’t encounter much resistance because most of the defenders will be under the rubble.

    A fortification says, “Here I am, come get me.” There is no fortification on earth that modern weapons can’t make short work of. Even Republicans aren’t so stupid that they insist on spending billions to build castles or manufacture catapults and longbows.

  44. 44

    @43

    I don’t think it was gunpowder, but rather the trebuchet.

    From wikipedia…

    Range and size of the weapons varied. In 1421 the future Charles VII of France commissioned a trebuchet (coyllar) that could shoot a stone of 800 kg, while in 1188 at Ashyun, rocks up to 1,500 kg were used. Average mass of the projectiles was probably around 50–100 kg, with a range of ca. 300 meters. The cycle rate could be noteworthy: at the siege of Lisbon (1147), two engines were capable of launching a stone every 15 seconds. Also human corpses could be used on special occasion: in 1422 Prince Korybut, for example, in the siege of Karlštejn Castle shot men and manure within the enemy walls, apparently managing to spread infection among the defenders.

    I think they could stand off far enough to evade arrows, and lob half-ton rocks – I think that they would do some serious damage to cheapshot’s fixed fortifications in his bunker up on Whidbey.

  45. 45

    Laughable: Rumor of Tea Party Boycott of Ebony Magazine Spreads After Trayvon Martin Cover

    Ebony’s response: Uhh, we don’t have any Tea Party readers.

    http://www.alternet.org/media/.....0&t=9

    The problem I had with the case, was that justice did not bother to investigate until they were forced. If it had been a black man who shot a white kid, they wouldn’t have acted the way the did.

  46. 46

    Of course this didn’t make the Friday Night Comix… although this isn’t funny. Just more of the standard Muslim religion of “peace” attacks on people helping people.

    What does is say about a religion when, if two innocent teenage girls walking down the street are doused with acid by men on motorbikes, everyone assumes the attackers must be Muslims? We let a great many outrages go unremarked, but this one really should be noted.

    The victims are two British girls, Kirstie Trup and Katie Gee, both 18, who were spending their “gap year” between high school and university volunteering at an orphanage in Zanzibar. Zanzibar is a mostly Muslim place, so they had been warned about the need to fit in:

    Of course watch Libtard SCHMUCKO come to the acid throwers defense like he did with Tsanaev Brothers!

  47. 47

    I love me some Hunter, over at DailyKos…

    …how the entire conservative movement’s just one big grift focused on keeping stupid people terrified about everything, all the time, so that the stupid people keep sending them money?

    Do you suppose cheapshotBob is a grifter, or a griftee? We certainly know what the puddybigot is.

    Tony Perkins, grifter extraordinaire…

    Today’s science classes often feature big-government political propaganda, taking time and focus away from true science. Not to mention attacks on the Bible and arrogant censoring of any theories like intelligent design that challenge their Darwinism.

    Perkins is sending out a “survey”, with money ask, natch, that includes the following…

    “Positive portrayals of homosexuality or negative portrayals of those who don’t affirm homosexuality,” “Not enough teaching of the Christian roots of America,” “Absence of presentation of intelligent design theory,” and “Not enough teaching on the virtues of limited government and free enterprise.”

    Is there nothing good these dimwits won’t try to destroy? They claim to be crusading against liberal thought control in the public schools, and in whining about that, demand instead mind-destruction via the enforced assimilation of right wing idiocy cult beliefs like “Intelligent Design”, “limited government”, the 6000-year-old universe, abstinence-only birth non-control, and an ever hysterical fear of TEH GAYZ!!

    Good gawd these people are pathetic, though very dangerous.

    Hunter again…

    …”We Luv Jeebus 4Ever” and “Scianse Get Out!” and on the back there’s a map to the secret factory where Karl Marx and Leonardo da Vinci made all those fake dinosaur skeletons to bury around the world.

  48. 48

    @46

    Yes, puddybigot, you are absolutely correct – what happened to those girls is a horror. In your anti-MOOSLUM bigotry, however, you miss the real evil here.

    It is not Islam, per se, but rather intolerant, ignorant, violent fundamentalism, that in this case is only incidentally of the Muslim variety.

    I am convinced that the only thing holding back our domestic whackadoodle bigots who embrace affirmative stupidity and hate, like you, for instance, is a liberal culture and a strong allegiance to the rule of law in this society, something we can thank enlightened, educated and tolerant people for, not Bibul-thumping religious cranks. Those evil acid-throwers probably think just like you do that that their enemies are going to burn in hell when their version of the imaginary sky daddy comes down and rescues them.

    So puddybigot, peddle your hate somewhere else – you have vastly more in common with the ignorant and hateful acid-throwers than you do with anything resembling enlightened or wise or kind.

  50. 50

    Interesting piece about railroads and hauling crude. It may be here to stay, even if the Keystone XL pipeline is built.

    http://www.progressiverailroad.....8211;37110

    On the latest TRAINS Magazine, columnist Don Phillips, a long time Washington Post reporter who covered transportation issues had a good column this month. About the railroad industry grudgingly accepting that the current situation may be long term. Also mentioned something interesting, the Bakken boom has saved some refineries on the East Coast, as foreign oil has become too costly. Foreign oil, it was mentioned, is traded on the North Sea Brent crude benchmark price, a little more expensive than the West Texas Intermediate price, which Bakken Crude is traded at.

  54. 54

    @51 I can hardly wait to watch the Republican tears flow the night Hillary is elected president.

  55. 55

    @46 One comment attached to the linked article points out:

    “It is far past the time when Muslims ‘of good will’, (and I know some), strongly and publicly renounced those who promote and partake in violence of this sort.”

    There are many who try. The media, by and large, ignore them. “Man bites dog” is deemed more “newsworthy” than “Man pets dog”.

  56. 56

    Mark Steyn nails it again… Sadly missing from the Friday Night Comix…

    Maybe this Clinton-era directive merits reconsideration in the wake of Fort Hood? Don’t be ridiculous. Instead, nine months after Major Hasan’s killing spree, the Department of Defense put into place “a series of procedural and policy changes that focus on identifying, responding to, and preventing potential workplace violence.”

    Major Hasan says he’s a soldier for the Taliban. Maybe if the Pentagon were to reclassify the entire Afghan theater as an unusually prolonged outburst of “workplace violence,” we wouldn’t have to worry about obsolescent concepts such as “victory” and “defeat.” The important thing is that the U.S. Army’s “workplace violence” is diverse. After Major Hasan’s pre-post-traumatic workplace wobbly, General George W. Casey Jr., the Army’s chief of staff, was at pains to assure us that it could have been a whole lot worse: “What happened at Fort Hood was a tragedy, but I believe it would be an even greater tragedy if our diversity becomes a casualty.” And you can’t get much more diverse than letting your military personnel pick which side of the war they want to be on.

  57. 57

    It is not Islam, per se, but rather intolerant, ignorant, violent fundamentalism, that in this case is only incidentally of the Muslim variety.

    Once again all can see the abject loonacy of Libtard SCHMUCKO! Incidentally? Do Christians regularly throw acid on innocent girls? Do Jews regularly throw acid on innocent girls? Do tell SCHMUCKO. Name all the incidentallies!

    Oh yeah BTW do Christians hack off the heads of innocents? Do Jews hack off the heads of innocents? Do tell SCHMUCKO. Name all the incidentallies!

    Oh yeah BTW do Christians shoot the heads of innocents because they are embarassed by teenage girls? Do Jew shoot the heads of innocents because they are embarassed by teenage girls? Do tell SCHMUCKO. Name all the incidentallies!

    1) This is the only muslim activity happening right now

    2) There is no public denouncement from the fools at CAIR

    3) Your kind (DUMMOCRAPTS) are afraid to call it as it is. As long as you make excuses they will continue to make victims out of people like these two young women.

    4) Your kind, you especially, could not call the Tsarnaev brothers what they were/are… terrorists. You still make apologies for Dzhokhar even today!

    Nuff said sucka!

  58. 58

    Radical christians blow up buildings, assainate doctors, attemt to bomb gay nightclubs, kill gay men, and enact ever increasingly restrictive laws on female health. Give them time to work up to acid throwing.

  59. 59

    @57 – It’s a pretty good chance that the dudes that killed Mathew Sheppard were Christians or Jews.

    Now Puffy hides in silence, or he will respond to my comment about him hiding in silence without responding to my comment regarding Mathew Sheppard.

    Puffy is a coward and exactly as described in post #48

  61. 61

    @57 –

    Your kind, you especially, could not call the Tsarnaev brothers what they were/are… terrorists. You still make apologies for Dzhokhar even today!

    great generalization. Who the hell is making apologies for Dzhokhar? You just throw shit out there that isn’t true.

  62. 62

    @18

    When we give jail time to everyone who knowingly hires illegals, then the demand for their labor would dry up and they would have reason to come here.

    How true – bunch of hypocrites.

    I have a coworker and friend (I’ll qualify that with the statement that I’m not real close to him for all of the following reasons) who is a Republican, he grows tobacco in his spare time, he harvests about 5 acres a year. Aside from getting government subsidies to do so, he is your small government minded person. He also employees Jamaican illegal immigrants to harvest his crop. He not only doesn’t like immigrants (illegal or not) but he doesn’t talk about them too kindly. He doesn’t really talk too kindly about colored people in general.

    Just one of those classic hypocritical Tea bagging idiots.

  63. 63

    @57 Uncle Puddles,

    Oh yeah BTW do Christians hack off the heads of innocents?

    Yes, Christians do slaughter innocents.
    US Army soldiers fighting against “terrorism” slaughter innocents. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M.....ct_murders
    What did the “Christians” do in Afghanistan?
    Gibbs used medical shears to sever several fingers that he kept as a form of human trophy collecting. He gave one of them to Holmes, who kept it dried in a Ziploc bag.

    Is it true that the reason you are so stupidly bigoted and incapable of understanding a person’s religion is not a reason to suspect them is because Jason Richwine, former Heritage Foundation “scholar”, is right about the lack of intelligence your ethnicity brings you?

  65. 65

    Josh & the folks over at TPM catch this anecdote of American religious culture
    Religious AZ Family Abandons US, Has to Get Rescued at Sea

    PHOENIX (AP) — A northern Arizona family that was lost at sea for weeks in an ill-fated attempt to leave the U.S. over what they consider government interference in religion will fly back home Sunday.

    Hannah Gastonguay, 26, said Saturday that she and her husband “decided to take a leap of faith and see where God led us” when they took their two small children and her father-in-law and set sail from San Diego for the tiny island nation of Kiribati in May.
    […]
    Hannah Gastonguay said her family was fed up with government control in the U.S. As Christians they don’t believe in “abortion, homosexuality, in the state-controlled church,” she said.

    U.S. “churches aren’t their own,” Gastonguay said, suggesting that government regulation interfered with religious independence.

    Among other differences, she said they had a problem with being “forced to pay these taxes that pay for abortions we don’t agree with.”

    Nothing says Christian love of life like a half-assed sea voyage.

  66. 66

    @57
    Oh, the puddybigot is having a sad…a mad, mad sad.

    Let’s go back to the Tsarneav brothers, for a moment…that was when I started calling you ‘bigot’ if I recall correctly, and it was because of your naked bloodlust, your gleeful cackling at the thought of ‘enhanced interrogations’, and your unbridled hatred over their Islamic heritage.

    Here’s a quote of a post of mine, from April 20, responding to you at that time…

    You’re lying.

    You were whooping and clapping about the abrogation of normal police restraint of coercion on an American citizen, and moreover, the prospect that he would be treated as an ‘enemy combatant’ with all the associated physical and psychological coercion – torture – that that implies.

    You just don’t have the balls to own your beliefs in public. You dance around celebrating a horrible part of this horrible story – both for us and for this kid. We take away his rights and we diminish our own. We let fear and bloodlust drive us to trample our principles and pretty soon we don’t have an America to be proud of or that’s worth defending.

    I defended the legally innocent American citizen Dzhokhar Tsarnaev while you danced on the grave of our collective rights.

    You, of course, began raving about MOOSLUM infiltration of the Obama Administration, and gave us this priceless list…

    Those peeps are in Obummer’s Sadministraion inner circle of “sadvisors”! Are you that dense? Let Puddy assist your sad sack of a mind…

    Arif Alikhan – Assistant Secretary for Policy Development for the U.S. Department of Homeland Security.

    Mohammed Elibiary – Homeland Security Adviser.

    Rashad Hussain – Special Envoy to the (OIC) Organization of the Islamic Conference.

    Salam al-Marayati – Obama Adviser, founder of Muslim Public Affairs Council and its current executive director.

    Imam Mohamed Magid – Obama’s Sharia Czar, Islamic Society of North America.

    Eboo Patel – Advisory Council on Faith-Based Neighborhood Partnerships.

    You actually ‘thought’ that this was some sort of self-evident proof of nefarious infiltration of our precious bodily fluids, but rather, you were putting an anti-MOOSLUM cherry on top of the white-American-male-worshipping sundae that you slurp down every day on these threads.

    So, in answer to #4 in your post above, I never apologized for the Tsarnaev brothers, but you certainly cackled over the younger’s immanent torture and revealed your deep-seated bigotry.

  67. 67

    Name all the incidentallies!

    Where did you learn to speak English? Were you homeschuld?

  68. 68

    @57 (cont’d)

    I love when puddybigot can’t resist sharing his anti-MOOSLUM hatred.

    He never fully answered this question, made initially in reference to the Tsarnaev brothers, so I’ll ask again, this time in reference to the poor, hate-filled, ignorant Fundamentalists who threw acid on those innocent English girls in Zanzibar…

    Are the hateful acid-throwers children of God, and as such, deserve our love and compassion?

    Eh, puddybigot, what does your Christian faith have to say? Isn’t this what your Jesus commanded us to do?

  69. 69

    In answer to puddybigot’s series of questions, @57, in which he hopes to condemn those EVUL MOOSLUMS in light of the goodness of Christians and Jews, I would offer him this list of White American terrorists…

    White privilege is knowing that if the bomber turns out to be white, he or she will be viewed as an exception to an otherwise non-white rule, an aberration, an anomaly, and that he or she will be able to join the ranks of Tim McVeigh and Terry Nichols and Ted Kaczynski and Eric Rudolph and Joe Stack and George Metesky and Byron De La Beckwith and Bobby Frank Cherry and Thomas Blanton and Herman Frank Cash and Robert Chambliss and James von Brunn and Robert Mathews and David Lane and Michael F. Griffin and Paul Hill and John Salvi and James Kopp and Luke Helder and James David Adkisson and Scott Roeder and Shelley Shannon and Dennis Mahon and Wade Michael Page and Byron Williams and Kevin Harpham and William Krar and Judith Bruey and Edward Feltus and Raymond Kirk Dillard and Adam Lynn Cunningham and Bonnell Hughes and Randall Garrett Cole and James Ray McElroy and Michael Gorbey and Daniel Cowart and Paul Schlesselman and Frederick Thomas and Paul Ross Evans and Matt Goldsby and Jimmy Simmons and Kathy Simmons and Kaye Wiggins and Patricia Hughes and Jeremy Dunahoe and David McMenemy and Bobby Joe Rogers and Francis Grady and Demetrius Van Crocker and Floyd Raymond Looker and Derek Mathew Shrout, among the pantheon of white people who engage in (or have plotted) politically motivated violence meant to terrorize and kill, but whose actions result in the assumption of absolutely nothing about white people generally, or white Christians in particular.

    It’s from a Sirota article, here, and comes from a hot-linked list here that gives more information about each of the white dudes in question.

    That Sirota article, which was excellent, in which he hoped that the then-uncaptured Marathon bomber was a white male, generated some serious consternation among our resident white supremacists, cheapshot and puddybigot.

    And, I would reiterate, that when I shifted puddybigot’s accusation against MOOSLUMS to a focus on Fundamentalists, a major point is that that the only thing that restrains our domestic violence/hate-oriented Christian fundamentalists from similar acts (and is not always successful at this) is our rule of law, something for which we have liberal, tolerant, educated people to thank.

  70. 70

    Just spent 112 minutes online with a very nice gentleman who does online sales for Dell. He’s based in Manila.

    He had an answer to every single question.

    We constructed a Dell laptop optimized for the latest speech recognition software version.

    No idea why it’s necessary to hire some semi-literate American to do the job he did. He was great. My only criticism is that I had to request the solid-state hard drive rather than him suggesting it.

    Last time I did this it was nearly $3500. This time, $1900.

  71. 71

    @ 45

    The problem I had with the case, was that justice did not bother to investigate until they were forced.

    Er, a full investigation did occur and it was determined that charges were not warranted.

    It wasn’t until the race-baiters came to town that an agenda-driven appointee decided to revise history with charges.

    Don’t forget that the Not Guilty verdict on all options, including manslaughter, came AFTER the judge decided not to permit the contents of Trayvon Martin’s cell phone to be entered into evidence. Potential reversible error all over the place and he still was found Not Guilty of all potential charges.

  72. 72

    Dead-tree journalism watch:

    The Rockland County Times has learned that Rockland County Chief Editor Caryn McBride is among the casualties of the recent purge of 17 journalists and 26 total staffers at the Gannett-owned Journal News newspaper.

    McBride gained fame earlier this year for her involvement in the Journal News gun map fiasco. Police reports indicated McBride had called the Clarkstown Police Department to notify them of torrents of angry phone calls and letters the newspaper received following the publication of the map.

    The Rockland editor said she felt threatened by the complaints, but local police did not agree a credible threat against the safety of employees of the newspaper existed. Unsatisfied, McBride and other executives decided to hire armed guards to protect their property, causing an uproar due to the perceived hypocrisy of the avowed anti-gun editors hiring gun-toting men.

    http://www.rocklandtimes.com/2.....n-mcbride/

    Too bad, so sad. One has to wonder how many extra staff members got the axe because of the circulation loss after that idiotic publication of the addresses of residents who lawfully owned guns.

    Lefty own-goals are so common these days. Wonder who will buy the NYT. Mark Cuban, perhaps. And he could install Dennis Rodman as Publisher, which might be a step up.

  74. 74

    @70 Serial,
    If you want a great computer at a reasonable price… http://www.pugetsystems.com/

    because it is not ‘necessary to hire some semi-literate American to do the job he did’. The best in the world are right here in Auburn.

    Puget Systems offers the best support, bar none.

  75. 75

    @ 74

    Thanks for the suggestion.

    Dell I bought pre-tax $1736

    Same configuration on that site pre-tax $2380.00

    In 23 years of owning computers I have had one 30″ monitor power supply go intermittent enough that it became useless and have had two hard-drives become corrupted and require replacement. That was all Mac stuff.

    I think I’m good with a Dell.

  77. 77

    Ahhh.. The great state of TexASS… Who cares about thirsty cattle and people?

    Beverly McGuire saw the warning signs before the town well went dry: sand in the toilet bowl, the sputter of air in the tap, a pump working overtime to no effect. But it still did not prepare her for the night last month when she turned on the tap and discovered the tiny town where she had made her home for 35 years was out of water.

    “The day that we ran out of water I turned on my faucet and nothing was there and at that moment I knew the whole of Barnhart was down the tubes,” she said, blinking back tears. “I went: ‘dear God help us. That was the first thought that came to mind.”

    http://www.theguardian.com/env.....l-no-water

    There’s black gold in them thar formations! Klownservatives need gas guzzlers..

  78. 78

    Awwwww. America’s top birfer lambastes bagger darling Ted Cruz:

    The country’s most prominent Republican birther says that one of his party’s early frontrunners for the 2016 presidential nomination may “perhaps not” be eligible to run if he was born in Canada.

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/201.....president/

    I love it!!!!! Didn’t Cruz say his mom is an American citizen? I love that shit even more!

    Whadya say to that gassy shithead (gs/ld/yd)???

  82. 82

    Hey, remember that phony North Pole turning ice into lakes story from a couple of weeks back?

    The one that even the study author at UofW took pains to point out didn’t mean that ice is becoming water all over the North Pole?

    AP comes out to retract their imagery:

    Titlu : ELIMINATION North Pole Lake

    Caption : EDITORS, PHOTO EDITORS, AND PHOTO LIBRARIANS – PLEASE ELIMINATE AP PHOTO NY109 THAT WAS SENT ON SATURDAY, JULY 27, 2013. THE CAPTION INACCURATELY STATED THAT ‘THE SHALLOW MELTWATER LAKE IS OCCURRING DUE TO AN UNUSUALLY WARM PERIOD.’ IN FACT, THE WATER ACCUMULATES IN THIS WAY EVERY SUMMER. IN ADDITION, THE IMAGES DO NOT NECESSARILY SHOW CONDITIONS AT THE NORTH POLE, BECAUSE THE WEATHER BUOY CARRYING THE CAMERA USED BY THE NORTH POLE ENVIRONMENTAL OBSERVATORY HAS DRIFTED HUNDREDS OF MILES FROM ITS ORIGINAL POSITION, WHICH WAS A FEW DOZEN MILES FROM THE POLE-

    http://foto.agerpres.ro/index.php?i=7147048

    Cue Gilda:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3FnpaWQJO0

  83. 83

    Damn! Serial RENEGER @82 has caught on to our grand Global Climate Change hoax designed to keep liberal commie loving scientists on top of the capitalist $$$$ pyramid!

    Also, too starving polar bears are not a reason to be concerned.

  85. 85

    Awwww… A Republican “radical feminist” goes off on bagger freak Steve King:

    Rep. Steve King (R-IA) recently dove into hot water by saying that undocumented immigrants were “drug mules” with “cantaloupe-sized calves.” Sunday morning, King doubled down, suggesting many young undocumented immigrants were “drug smugglers.” In response, King received an epic rebuke from Republican strategist Ana Navarro.

    Talking to David Gregory on NBC’s Meet The press, King argued that immigration reform would entail granting citizenship to “a lot of people…up to the age of 35″ who smuggled drugs over the Mexican border. Navarro hit back hard, telling King he needed to “get therapy” for his bigoted views about Latinos:

    http://thinkprogress.org/immig.....ngressman/

    Bigoted views about latinos? Shit, our goto klownservative jerk for laughs around here would call that “facts” or “truth”.. Heh.. What a freak.. I love it when they dig their own graves..

  86. 86

    @ 83

    Hey MBS, go to that link and click on the photo for the full caption. You’ll get this:

    From his lying position in death, Stirling said, the bear appears to simply have starved and died where he dropped, having been reduced to little more than skin and bone.

    So from a photograph the ‘expert’ deduced he starved to death.

    Using that rationale, these photographs:

    http://www.heavy.com/news/2013.....zimmerman/

    must mean that Trayvon Martin laid down for a nap and died in his sleep.

  87. 87

    there’s going to be about one-third more ice at the annual minimum than there was last year

    .

    *cough* klownservative bullshit *cough*…

    Will this storm act to apply additional brakes on Arctic melting?

    NSIDC says not necessarily. Although storms can help spread out ice and increase its extent (in the past, stormy summers have usually had greater ice extents), storms may leave it vulnerable for a rapid meltdown once calmer, sunnier weather moves in, especially if the ice is thin.

    “This spreading of the ice, or ice divergence, can result in more dark open water areas between individual floes that enhance absorption of the sun’s energy, leading to more lateral and basal melting,” writes NSIDC…

    In 2012, Arctic sea ice shrunk to its lowest extent on record in the weeks following a very powerful August storm.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....y-in-2013/

  88. 88

    @ 83

    Seriously, MBS, it’s one thing to look at a photo and make a pronouncement.

    It’s another to do some actual work:

    Population ecology of polar bears in Davis Strait, Canada and Greenland

    We analyzed 35 years of capture and harvest data from the polar bear (Ursus maritimus) subpopulation in Davis Strait, including data from a new study (2005–2007), to quantify its current demography. We estimated the population size in 2007 to be 2,158 ± 180 (SE), a likely increase from the 1970s.

    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com.....ated=false

    That’s an increase of about 50% from status in 1993:

    http://polarbearscience.com/20.....-capacity/

    Nice try, though.

  90. 90

    I would like to thank all of you HA electricity rate-payers in WA state for subsidizing the purchase of my rooftop solar system with your add-on fees, assessed with each billing your utility sends. These fees go into a fund mandated by WA state, and pays solar panel owners 54 cents per kWh of energy produced by the panels. This is on top of the sales tax-free nature of the purchase to begin with, and the rebate from the utility, and the 30% tax credit from the federal government, and the MACRS on 85% of the purchase price of the system even though 30% of it was credited and another 5% was rebated.

    Truly a gift.

    Question is, will it be a sustainable gift?

    Two weeks ago, the Czech government decided to end all subsidies for new renewable energy projects at the end of this year. “The reason for this law amendment is the rising financial burden for electricity consumers,” Prime Minister Jiri Rusnok said. “It threatens the competitiveness of our industry and raises consumers’ uncertainty about power prices.” In recent years, almost all EU member states also have begun the process of rolling back and cutting green subsidies.

    Spain is a particularly cautionary tale. By failing to control the cost of guaranteed subsidies, the country has been saddled with €126bn of obligations to renewable-energy investors.

    Now that the Spanish government has dramatically curtailed these subsidies, even retrospectively, more than 50,000 solar entrepreneurs face financial disaster and bankruptcy.

    http://www.thegwpf.org/benny-p.....en-future/

    Europe’s experience with such idiocy suggests not. Of course, here in WA we’ve got a governor who is married to the concept, so I expect that through 2017, at least, the money tap remains open. In 2018 the system is paid off and the money by law is supposed to be paid until 2020, meaning I’ll realize some profit at your expense.

    So thank you, fellow rate-payers. A gift I truly don’t deserve.

  91. 91

    @88, etc

    Good gawd you’re a moron, or worse.

    From a 30-sec perusal of the abstract of your second link…

    Low recruitment rates, average adult survival rates, and high population density, in an environment of high prey density, but deteriorating and variable ice conditions, currently characterize the Davis Strait polar bears. Low reproductive rates may reflect negative effects of greater densities or worsening ice conditions.

    For one, this is a single population of Polar Bears. Second, a number of complex variables has their population presently high, though the scientists who study that include deteriorating ice conditions as one variable that would limit their population growth.

    Haven’t you learned not to try to engage in a discussion of academic papers in the pursuit of your rightard agenda? It never ends well for you.

    Moreover, nothing you’ve thrown out in an attempt to obfuscate will obscure the reality of anthropogenic climate change, which includes progressive shrinking of critical ice accumulations worldwide.

    I would have thought you’d be intimately familiar with the notion of shrinkage. I guess you can’t shrink what’s already tiny.

  93. 93

    @ 91

    Absolutely right it was a single population @ 88, LibSci.

    But it was 2,157 +/- 180 SE, more polar bears than in the single photo provided by MBS @ 83.

    So I believe it served its purpose.

    Some populations are increasing, some are in decline, and for some there are not enough data to know – that saves us a he said, she said discussion.

    The point, should you choose to acknowledge it, is that just like weather is not climate, a single snapshot viewed from a distance @ 82 @ 83 should not be applied broadly to a very complex topic.

  94. 94

    I would like to thank all of you HA electricity rate-payers in WA state for subsidizing the purchase of my rooftop solar system with your add-on fees, assessed with each billing your utility sends.

    Why aren’t you thanking moronic klownservatives like the Everett loon or the birfer moron gs who haunts these threads?? Or Rodney Tom or Tim Sheldon or whatever bagger loon politician that votes NO on everything that’s not a tax cut?

    What gratitude to your own kind…

  95. 95

    @90

    Your gloating post merely demonstrates, again, that you possess no principles.

    Your contempt for the (very real) need to switch to renewable energy aside, I would think that if a person honestly held small-government beliefs, that the government was giving out too many non-sustainable handouts to undeserving people, that the health of our shared economy and shared society demanded that profligate spending cease, that you would be unable to avail yourself of such a boondoggle.

    That assumes, of course, that there is some sort of self-respecting, honest and forthright human behind the ‘cheapshotBob’ persona.

    There obviously isn’t.

    We know what a racist, entitled, contemptible greedhead you really are, don’t we?

    Or did you just buy it to impress your neighbors in South Whidbey?

  96. 96

    @93

    Ah, more “Teach the Controversy” bullshit from cheapshotBob.

    Keep it up, Bob, we’re all still laughing at you.

  97. 97

    So Klownservative Bob is a member of the whine (about taxes) and cheez set in South Whidbey?

    Just a few more years to go and he’ll be a member of the leisure class.. Will he wear a cravat and a skipper’s cap??? Does he have a hole in the water to shovel money into?

  98. 98

    @ 95

    Got it. I have a Prius and solar but I have them for the wrong reasons because I criticize some of the programs behind them. It’s wrong of me to point out that silicon-smelting is bad for the environment before solar panels can be good for the environment because Jay Inslee! It’s wrong of me to point out that money spent – $20,000 in my case – by various government and utility entities over the next five years to pay off my solar installation could instead by handed out as eight $2,500 rebates to people who buy a Prius, Honda, Ford, or other hybrid and would be far more beneficial to the environment because of the gasoline that wouldn’t be burned than the incremental benefit to the environment because of the 2200 or so kWh I won’t need this coming year because I bought and installed solar.

    Fair enough.

    How’s your solar project going, BTW, Lib Sci?

  100. 100

    99 – A tree hugger?? How endearing.. Or is it a paranoiac privacy freak covering over the previous land owner’s fire hazard fetish or seasonal affective disorder…

    Funny Bob.. Funny indeed.. Trees are good.. Solar panels are good.. Gloat away Bobby if it makes you feel good.

  101. 101

    @ 101

    Seeing the little trees taller this year than they were last year, and coming back after being thrashed each year by the deer, is what feels good, YLB.

    Gotta go out and carry water some of the little fuckers now. Ciao.

  103. 103

    How’s your solar project going, BTW, Lib Sci?

    Thanks for asking.

    Just got done remodeling the basement for the teenager, which included tearing out the old forced air and replacing with MUCH higher efficiency boiler and radiant system, and insulating the hell out of the space, including all new windows. In the process, plumbed and wired up to attic for future PV and solar hot water. The new hot water tank – which is presently heated by the boiler, has two coils – one for the boiler, one for solar hook up.

    So, infrastructure in place and will likely put the panels on the roof this fall or next spring.

    Again, thanks for asking.

  104. 104

    @103

    Will solar water be worth it when the kids leave and your use plummets? Extra energy going into the solar water heating system above what you actually need is useless, right? I couldn’t see a reason for doing solar hot water. And then there’s the potential for leakage…

  105. 105

    A judge in San Francisco has granted Governor Brown’s request for a 60 day cooling off period in the ongoing negotiations between BART and it’s unions. The last strike before the current one, was in 1997, with a Republican Governor, Pete Wilson, by the way.
    http://mobile.bloomberg.com/ne.....trike.html

    The Los Angeles County Metropolitan Transportation Authority had a strike in 2000, with a Democratic Governor, Gray Davis, by the way, and it was way different. Bus, Light Rail, and Subway service was down for a month. The agreement was mediated by an outsider, Rev. Jesse Jackson.
    http://wc.arizona.edu/papers/94/42/01_96_m.html

    In California, Transit operators and strikes, depend on the county. Most that were created by state legislation, laws banning such strikes would have to come from Sacramento. The San Francisco Municipal Railway is different, probably because it was not created by state legislation, as it dates back to 1912, with city ownership ever since. Back then, they were all privately owned, MUNI even had private competition up until 1944. The Charter of the City and County of San Francisco prohibits public employee strikes, that includes bus, streetcar, light rail, and cable car drivers and mechanics.

  106. 106

    @91 “Haven’t you learned not to try to engage in a discussion of academic papers in the pursuit of your rightard agenda? It never ends well for you.”

    This argument never has any effect on science deniers, for the obvious reason that they don’t respect scientific method or academia in the first place.

  107. 107

    @98 So … you admit you’re taking government dole. I kinda figured all along you were.

  108. 108

    @100 He’s probably growing Christmas trees to sell in his front yard to passersby.

  109. 109

    To be a conservative: Gimme my solar panel government dole but dont raise my taxes a dime to pay for food stamps if others need to eat.

    When a conservative takes advantages of what availabe thats just good sense but if some one poor takes advantage of what is availabe and they are leaches and takers and the program needs to be cut

  110. 110

    Second Amendment Report

    “A New Hampshire man used a handgun to shoot his 9-year-old son to death before taking his own life during supervised visitation at a YWCA office in the state’s largest city, officials said Sunday.”

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....d%3D356460

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: I don’t think this guy should’ve had a gun.

  111. 111

    Some 9 year olds must be sacrificed so all unstable people can have access to guns.

  112. 112

    Interesting way to liven up a campaign by going for the youth vote. The Social Democrats candidate for Chancellor is willing to go for the decriminalization of marijuana.
    http://www.spiegel.de/internat.....13881.html

    I guess anything to avoid the rumors that he will coalition with the Left Party. He has already closed the door on a Grand Coalition with the Christian Democrats. The polls show a Social Democrats/Greens/Left coalition is possible, as the Christian Democrats prefered coalition partner, the Free Democrats, also called the Liberals, are not in Good shape. The FDP has been polling between 4-7%, 5 or above is ok, 4, unless they win a district mandate, means that the FDP lawmakers may be packing up their offices in Berlin.

  113. 113

    To be a conservative: Gimme my solar panel government dole but dont raise my taxes a dime to pay for food stamps if others need to eat.

    Especially other klownservatives..

    Shit they of all people ought to know better!

    What’s a few stomach grumbles compared to the SHAME, the HUMILIATION of cashing a “gubmint check”…

  116. 116

    Who the hell is making apologies for Dzhokhar?

    Libtard SCHMUCKO, profesional test tube bottlewasher and those other HA DUMMOCRAPTS who DO NOT take in to task.

    BTW Gleeeeeeman… Puddy not in your time zone. Sux to be you!

    Goosestepping Jackbooted Schmuck!

  117. 117

    @57 – It’s a pretty good chance that the dudes that killed Mathew Sheppard were Christians or Jews.

    Your continual poster boy for gays eh gleeeeeeeeeeman? Got proof on that comment? More HA libtard speculation.

  118. 118

    We take away his rights and we diminish our own.

    The NSA under Obummer has already done this. But in their zeal somehow they missed the Brothers Tsarnaev. Cry Puddy a river Libtard SCHMUCKO.

  119. 119

    Radical christians blow up buildings, assainate doctors, attemt to bomb gay nightclubs, kill gay men, and enact ever increasingly restrictive laws on female health. Give them time to work up to acid throwing.

    That’s the best you got Fascist Pigsty?

    So do atheists: who shit on cars, break windows, set buildings on fire, firebomb banks, rape women at OWS events, shoot people at OWS events, sling feces and piss on innocents.

    Good try butt EPIC FAYLE!

  120. 120

    @109 NTfF,
    Being a conservative Republican in the 21st century means its ok to piggy up for all the guberment handouts you oppose.

    Just remember, if you think it is wrong IOKIYAR.

  121. 121

    It’s from a Sirota article

    So Puddy chose Ted Kaczynski… No mention of Christianity anywhere… So he must be a libtard atheist.

    Puddy chose Byron De La Beckwith… DUMMOCRAPT!

    Puddy chose Bobby Frank Cherry and Thomas Blanton and Herman Frank Cash and Robert Chambliss… all DUMMOCRAPTS

    How many others fit that bill?

    Kinda explodes that libtard SCHMUCKO supposition.

  122. 122

    something for which we have liberal, tolerant, educated people to thank.

    What a crock!

  123. 123

    So Puddy chose Ted Kaczynski… No mention of Christianity anywhere… So he must be a libtard atheist.

    My uncle was at UC Berkeley with Ted Kaczynski for several years. Mr. Kaczynski was in fact, Jewish.

    Liberal or Conservative doesn’t come into it, as he was a psychopath. Try reading his “manifesto” sometime. There’s something in it for everyone.

    But, you being you, it is painfully obvious to everyone in here, that you never read anything that doesn’t reinforce your confirmation bias, even if you have to link to some obscure Blog written by a fellow schizophrenic and pathological liar.

  124. 124

    How’s your 401K doing?

    401(k)s are a sham
    Duped by a DIY retirement dream, the elderly now face staggeringly low living standards


    The truth is this: the concept of a do-it-yourself retirement was a fraud. It was a fraud because to expect people to save up enough money to see themselves through a 20- or 30-year retirement was a dubious proposition in the best of circumstances. It was a fraud because it allowed hustlers in the financial sector to prey on ordinary people with little knowledge of sophisticated financial instruments and schemes. And it was a fraud because the mainstream media, which increasingly relies on the advertising dollars of the personal finance industry, sold expensive lies to an unsuspecting public. When combined with stagnating salaries, rising expenses and a stock market that did not perform like Rumpelstilskin and spin straw into gold, do-it-yourself retirement was all but guaranteed to lead future generations of Americans to a financially insecure old age. And so it has.

    Oh shit! Well, at least your CEO will be ok.

  125. 125

    Glenn Greenwald:

    And the key issue with it, Amy is that when you sit at your terminal as an NSA analyst, and you want to go and search, you don’t need anybody’s approval. Nobody looks over your shoulder to see what you’re doing. You don’t need to justify it to anybody. You just enter what’s called justification, three or four words about why you’re doing it, and it then processes it. No court needs to approve it. No supervisor approves it. There’s post-search supervisory auditing, which is extremely random and scattered and not very rigorous. But there’s no pre-search approval requirements, which means an analyst can invade all of this incredibly sensitive online activity anytime they decide to do so.

    http://www.democracynow.org/20....._threat_to

    Mind-blowing.. Heh.. Our goto dope for laughs around here – his interwebs (bowel) movements are being tracked WAAAAAY beyond his worst nightmares..

    By two term President Obama’s NSA…

    How it sucks for him!

  126. 126

    “Oh shit! Well, at least your CEO will be ok.”

    That’s what’s really important.

  127. 127

    @124 I’ve been saying for years now that 401(k)s suck and the only reason to put money in them is to get employer matching money. Purely in investment terms, 401(k)s stink.

    The S&P 500 is up over 20% in the last 12 months. Unless your 401(k) is up 20% in that timeframe, you’d have been better off putting your money in a market-index ETF. If your 401(k) is up only 5% or 10% while the market is up 20%, you’re being robbed.

    I’m not saying stock investing is easy. I’ve been doing it for 30 years and I work at it. Just like there are good companies and bad companies, there are good stocks and bad stocks, and you have to learn to tell them apart. Hint: Bad company usually means bad stock; the two tend to go together.

    Employers have eliminated traditional pensions to cut their labor costs. They thought pensions were a great idea as long as they could ride the market and didn’t have to actually pay for their employees’ pensions. Of course, that didn’t last, so now they want to get rid of pensions.

    Here’s what workers should do about that. Let’s say you have a job that nominally pays $60,000 a year but was really worth $80,000 because of the pension and health benefits. And let’s say the employer has decided to let you fend for yourself in terms of health care and retirement. Fine, you reply, pay me $80,000 and I’ll pay for my health care and retirement myself. If your boss refuses, just tell him you’re not willing to take a $20,000 pay cut and quit. I’m pretty sure he was paying you $80k because you were worth $80k in terms of how much money you made for him, and that he can’t replace the money you brought in for him by hiring someone else for $60k, or he wouldn’t have been paying you $80k. So if he tries to enrich himself by sticking you with a 25% pay cut, tell him to take his job and shove it, and don’t be afraid to walk out, because if you were worth $80k to him then you’re worth $80k to someone else. I’d bet on it.

  128. 128

    @125 Man, I’ll bet Amy has some kind of fun checking up on her dates and boyfriends.

  130. 130

    But, you being you, it is painfully obvious to everyone in here, that you never read anything that doesn’t reinforce your confirmation bias, even if you have to link to some obscure Blog written by a fellow schizophrenic and pathological liar.

    Spoken by one of the biggest leftist crackpots on HA.

  131. 131

    Liberal or Conservative doesn’t come into it, as he was a psychopath. Try reading his “manifesto” sometime. There’s something in it for everyone.

    Tell that to Libtard SCHMUCKO OWS Racist Fraggy.

    Cry Puddy a river!

  132. 132

    @125,

    More gibberish from HA’s unemployed moron! So sad so sad! Just horse crap from the biggest arschloch around!

  133. 133

    Dayum… Another load delivered on Friday by Obummer’s gang! This should get HA’s unemployed moron’s pink panties all in a tight wad…

    We’re not talking small differences here. Originally the Justice Department said 530 people were charged criminally as part of a year-long initiative by the multi-agency Mortgage Fraud Working Group. It now says the actual figure was 107 — or 80 percent less. Holder originally said the defendants had victimized more than 73,000 American homeowners. That number was revised to 17,185, while estimates of homeowner losses associated with the frauds dropped to $95 million from $1 billion.

    The government restated the statistics because it got caught red-handed by a couple of nosy reporters. Last October, two days after Holder first publicized the numbers, Phil Mattingly and Tom Schoenberg of Bloomberg News broke the story that some of the cases included in the Justice Department’s tally occurred before the initiative began in October 2011. At least one was filed more than two years before President Barack Obama took office.

    Oh my… Can you say inflation? Oh my Holder’s Justice only inflated those supposed claims by 80% and 90% right HA libtards? How about viewing this another way HA morons? The real inflated percentages are way above to 500% and 900% respectively.

    You libtards should thank Phil Mattingly and Tom Schoenberg of Bloomberg News! Do libtards remember this? Of course they don’t 24 hour moonbattic moronic memory malady!

    Eric Holder has said he doesn’t know if he will stay on as U.S. attorney general, now that President Barack Obama has been re-elected. Here’s something to help them decide: A story about how the Justice Department got caught fudging its numbers on financial-fraud prosecutions — again.

    About five weeks ago, on Oct. 9, Holder held a news conference to trumpet the results of the government’s Distressed Homeowner Initiative, which he called “a groundbreaking, yearlong mortgage-fraud enforcement effort” and “the first ever to focus exclusively on crimes targeting homeowners.”

    Well it looks like it was all a lie, like so many other stories from this sadministration!

    Oh wait… another phony scandal is brewing.

  134. 134

    Wow, nine posts from our resident Young Earth Creationist, Fundamentalist Bibul-thumping MOOSLUM hater, and he says…

    …nothing.

    (I find it hilarious that the puddybigot has been calling people ‘goosesteppers’ lately….after I used that term on him several times in the past few weeks – I feel like a 3rd grade reading teacher. Mimicry is the highest form of praise!)

    What’s really remarkable, though, is his desperate spinning – see @119, 121 – to apologize for white Christian violence in this country – the most common kind of terroristic violence, as we all know. You’d almost think the puddybigot was a wannabe white supremacist.

    It’s funny, in a pathetic way, that puddybigot’s only defense, his only response to the extensive list of white American terrorists, is to pick out the murderer or Medgar Evers and the bombers of the Montgomery church – the murderers of 4 little girls – and call them ‘DUMMOCRAPTHHSS’.

    What really ties those 5 together is their racism and Klan membership, part and parcel with a ostentatious Christianism, as anyone with a few functioning neurons could put together.


    de la Beckwith     was a member of the Greenwood Episcopal Church of the Nativity and a member of the KKK.

    When Blanton, another KKK member, was convicted, he said…
    “

    I guess the good Lord will settle it on Judgment Day,” the former Ku Klux Klansman told Jefferson County Circuit Judge James Garrett.

    I can’t find explicit information on the religiosity of the other three, but here’s the KKK’s website, and we all know how they do love their crosses!!

    Here’s a quote…

    Bringing a Message of Hope and Deliverance to White Christian America!

  135. 135

    @133

    I totally agree. The prosecution of financial crimes by big banks and their allies has been completely pathetic – Obama and his administration, including Holder, have been utterly insufficient and appear to be completely captured by the financial industry.

    It’s clearly one of the biggest disappointments of the Obama Presidency.

    If this is a big issue for you, puddybigot, why are you constantly ragging on OWS? They’re motivated by exactly the same issues that you’re railing about (appropriately) above.

    Is it because you cannot stomach being an ally of a liberal/progressive/anti-‘Too Big to Fail’ group?

    This is also part of Elizabeth Warren’s focus – consumer protection and the danger of ‘Too Big to Fail’ mentality toward financial institutions. Yet, you have only ever had nasty and malicious things to say about her. Why is that? If you are really concerned about the inadequacy of the Justice Department going after fraudsters, why do you attack those that would make things different?

  136. 136

    Too bad Mr. Klynical Klown no longer haunts these threads.. Brush with mortality haunting his miserable ass perhaps?

    The world’s dumbest idea:

    Readers of this column know that short-term shareholder value, which is still pervasive in large organizations, has a lot of accomplishments to its credit. It has led to “bad profits” that have destroyed customer loyalty. It is responsible for massive offshoring of manufacturing, thereby destroying major segments of the US economy. And it has even undermined US capacity to compete in international markets.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/st.....-recovery/

    What is the alternative?

    The argument offered by executives that “the stock market made us do it” has the same legitimacy as “the dog ate my homework”, when public companies like Amazon [AMZN], Whole Foods [WFM] and Costco [COST] have successfully pursued customer value, despite the pressures of Wall Street. So isn’t it about time we stop compensating corporate leaders for meeting their quarterly numbers and instead shift the focus of business to its true goal of adding value to customers?

  137. 137

    one of the biggest leftist crackpots on HA.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

    MWS, my relatives are Western African. Well hung, quick footed and good looking! We can think on our feet and on our butts and we can easily use the Internet to dissect donk attacks.

    My clueless father, I lost my virginity
    today. God it hurt but he later ate my pussy and I got a male induced orgasm. Clueless daddy, it felt so good that I’m gonna fuck behind your back!” So if that’s the case
    cluelessASS how would you feel knowing your daughter has chosen to be a nympho slut?

    I equate HAs to the friends of Bob in the enzyte of commercials. We righties are Bob and you lefties look at what you are lacking.

    Chuck Todd: Both sides now expect Romney to win Florida – Mediaite! Puddy said Jewish vote would be key! Y’all pooh pooh’d Puddy!

  138. 138

    I didn’t follow the Zimmerman trial on the TEEVEE very much – try to avoid TEEVEE ‘news’ – so I never encountered this guy, Frank Taaffe, who it seems was one of Zimmerman’s most ardent and media-pervasive defenders.

    Wow, he sure is something.

    I wonder if cheapshotBob has a copy of the “Save the White People Handbook“? Puddybigot?

    Taaffe…

    ..he bemoaned the fact that some white women choose to date black men, saying that they invariably end up becoming single mothers. “Guess who winds up paying the tab on that? You and me and the rest of America,” Taaffe grumbled. “It’s called entitlement, man. It’s called food stamps. It’s called welfare.”

    “the only time a black life is validated is when a white person kills them.”

    “You know, Whitey, us…we’ve had a little bit of slavery, too,” he said. “Back in 1964 or 1965, then-President Johnson signed an executive order; it was called affirmative action. And you want to talk about slavery?”

    Wow, a real winner, that one.

    Many of the other entries on Taaffe’s rap sheet stem from domestic-violence complaints filed by his second wife and their son. In 2000, he was arrested for burglary—the very crime he alleges “young black males” were committing in his community—after allegedly swiping some papers from his ex-wife’s home….. According to police reports, he was later charged with stalking and with child abuse after his son, William, jumped out of a moving car, allegedly to escape his father’s angry, profanity-laced tirade.

    I wonder if this guy would be angry, given his feelings about welfare and the undeserving sucking on the teat of society, if poor black people were putting solar panels on their houses with big giveaways from the government??

  139. 139

    You’d almost think the puddybigot was a wannabe white supremacist.

    He has been caught quoting and approving an especially virulent white supremacist:

    Jared Taylor discussed issues about New Orleans. I am talking about here, on HA you mooron!!! Oh since most of those issues are being proved true, now you are getting upset?

    Jared Taylor wrote The Color of Crime back in the 1990s. You can read the pdf…

    Here’s some of the filth Jared Taylor wrote about New Orleans:

    The Superdome and the Convention Center were certainly unpleasant places to spend three or four days, but 50,000 whites would have behaved completely differently. They would have established rules, organized supplies, cared for the sick and dying. They would have organized games for children. The papers would be full of stories of selflessness and community spirit.

    Google it.. I won’t link to it.

  140. 140

    @139

    Not surprising in the least, really. The puddybigot is a an exemplar of the house slave. Of course he’s a white supremacist. He worships conservative white Tallibangelical culture.

    The conversations in his head must be some seriously fucked up shit.

  141. 141

    @137

    Wow. the puddybigot actually wrote that stuff…amazing.

    That is one sick motherfucker.

    I like that fact that others have called him on his ‘Christianity’ that he wears so ostentatiously while spewing some of the nastiest, hateful-est bile.

  142. 142

    Don’t y’all remember this crockola from Holder’s DOJ… No? Well it was Holder lumping all his small cases together and trumpeting it in his presser. Well it seems these little cases were nothing. Why? The big cases were Obummer’s handlers and big money donors. Can’t prosecute the hand that reerects you!

    Puddy remembers the hue and cry from HA libtards… Google this ya morons… “Justice Department attorneys resign bush site:horsesass.org” and look at all the screaming over the politicization of Bush’s Justice Department. Well Holder has done much worse.

    Oops… just another phony scandal!

  143. 143

    Wow another visit into the crazed databaze. HA’s unemployed moron keeps shilling the same thing over and over. Puddy lives inside his head. Getting close to 200 attempts and the same number of EPIC FAYLES!

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

  144. 144

    I like that fact that others have called him on his ‘Christianity’ that he wears so ostentatiously while spewing some of the nastiest, hateful-est bile.

    Remember when Jesus called them as Jesus saw them… No? Check out Matthew 23 Libtard SCHMUCKO!

    Regarding HA’s unemployed moron above, what does he present to his children being an unemployed moron who lives on his wife’s dole? Welfare? How not to be him? Meanwhile, Puddy has two university graduates with no student loans because Puddy works hard; one gainfully employed and the other a 3rd year law student just offered a plum litigation position at a prestigious law firm next year.

    So HA’s unemployed moron can shove it up his arschloch! Sux to be him!

  145. 145

    Oh yes the third retread of a Jared Taylor attack. So sad unemployed moron! Even people who are distasteful are sometimes correct.

    You can’t comprehend that!

  146. 146

    Since Puddy knows Libtard SCHMUCKO didn’t read the comments in context here is one so you can see why HA’s unemployed moron is an ASSHOLE.

    An CluelessASS: I guess you get a pass in Post#1 cuz you be a librul. You see I too am against teenagers getting fucking intimate. That’s for later in life. Yet, in your nanometerscopic mind, I guess when a child gets a hardon you say he’s ready for fucking. You see there is a big difference between fucking and love making. How can a teenager portent he or she is in love when they haven’t experienced anything yet except the abuse from a librul parent? Wake up and see life.

    If I remember, you said you were around 30 with two children. I have no idea if you have a girl but let’s assume so. She comes home at 13 and says: “My clueless father, I lost my virginity today. God it hurt but he later ate my pussy and I got a male induced orgasm. Clueless daddy, it felt so good that I’m gonna fuck behind your back!” So if that’s the case cluelessASS how would you feel knowing your daughter has chosen to be a nympho slut? Oh… that’s right she’s the offspring of a librul, she can do anything she wants! Well in my case I told both sons, no premarital sex is off limits. You have no idea what love is and grow into your body and mind. Check out what God’s creation has in store for you. When you find the right one God will let you know!

    That’s the big difference between you and me cluelessASS. I parent my children. Libruls let them run wild. Just go to a restaurant and watch the wild children. Ask the parents are you a librul and listen carefully. You’ll probably see them exit to their car with Kerry/Edwards stickers on the bumpers.

    GBS, how would you react if your daughters did what I suggested above? I bet you’d knock some sense into them. Oops… there would be a call to DSHS for child abuse from one of cluelessASS’ buddies.

    Now the whole context is known. This is why HA’s unemployed moron is an ASSHOLE! Sux to be him! Just an unemployed moronic ASSHOLE living vicariously on others’ comments and EPICALLY FAYLING too!

  147. 147

    Dayum, this is one of Puddy’s best! Since Puddy knows Libtard SCHMUCKO didn’t read the comments in context here is one so you can see why HA’s unemployed moron is an ASSHOLE.

    Again clueless, you deflect and obscure. If you remember what I said about you and rujax, you two were referring to something similar. What I do vs. Christ did has no bearing on this argument. I am not Him and only your side tries to make the “perfect” association. I ask Him and His Spirit to guide me. What guides a lefty besides full hatred of Bush? I’d say nothing else!

    I equate HAs to the friends of Bob in the enzyte of commercials. We righties are Bob and you lefties look at what you are lacking.

    Now the whole context is known. BDS is strong in this one! This is why HA’s unemployed moron is an ASSHOLE! Sux to be him! Just an unemployed moronic ASSHOLE living vicariously on others’ comments and EPICALLY FAYLING too!

    It really sux to be an unemployed moronic ASSHOLE !

  149. 149

    Regarding HA’s unemployed moron above, what does he present to his children being an unemployed moron who lives on his wife’s dole? Welfare? How not to be him? Meanwhile, Puddy has two university graduates with no student loans because Puddy works hard; one gainfully employed and the other a 3rd year law student just offered a plum litigation position at a prestigious law firm next year.

    Great for you and your kids.

    I’m not going to comment on the family of posters here, just as I hate when cheapshotBob makes smarmy commentary about my kids.

    What I loathe, however, is your incessant attacks on YLB regarding his family and domestic arrangements.

    JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT IT.

    I have no idea what his family life is like, who works, how the kids are thriving, who might stay home to parent, how roles and duties are balanced – and I doubt you do either.

    Regardless, you put on display the nastiest, most caustic contempt for him, and in the process merely emphasize what a small-minded, misogynistic, hateful, creepy little person you are.

    So what if YLB is the stay-home parent – why is this offensive, if true? Because he’s a man, and your narrow little fear-driven notions of what roles people should play at home and at work cannot assimilate this fact?

    Well just fuck off, puddybigot.

    What kind of snide little creep attacks a person for who their family is and how they live with and love each other?

    Oh, I know – a tallibangelical asswipe croaking about his wonderful job and his petty perqs and duties, a bigoted hate-filled Bibul-thumping pinhead who thinks his Sky Daddy is going to smite his enemies for him, a deluded fool who believes in magical teleporting penguins and 6000-year old Earth, a hate-filled buffoon who cackles about torturing brown MOOSLUM kids and who is terrified of people who have the bravery and authenticity to be true to themselves.

    Fuck off, puddybigot.

  150. 150

    What I do vs. Christ did has no bearing on this argument. I am not Him and only your side tries to make the “perfect” association. I ask Him and His Spirit to guide me.

    Wow – yet another total evasion.

    SO Christ’s COMMANDMENT to love your neighbor as yourself just doesn’t count?

    You only have to ‘ask for guidance’ and then get to do whatever-the-hell nasty, hateful thing you like – as we witness EVERY SINGLE DAY on these threads?

    How fucking convenient. I guess I should have know – the KKK are all about their Christian faith, aren’t they?

    IOKIYAACT

    (It’s OK if you’re a Christianist Tallibangelical)

  152. 152

    I see puddybigot is spewing all over the other thread – clearly won’t touch the indictment @149.

    Rather than ‘indictment’ maybe he should see it as an invitation to live the Christian values he so often brays on about.

  153. 153

    I ask Him and His Spirit to guide me. What guides a lefty besides full hatred of Bush? I’d say nothing else!

    Heh.. This old thread has some choice shit..

    Wow. The skygod guides this?

    tctmgr search -pv -ord count numdesc ~/.ha/data/lexicon/puddymoron.tct ” streq ‘obummer’ | cut -f1,4,5
    obummer count 1564

    The skygod “guides” almost 40,000 comments of this klownservative buffoon’s crap?

    And no “context” about circle jerking with his own sockpuppet MWS.. That was classic..

  154. 154

    Dayum Libtard SCHMUCKO… You don’t tell Puddy what to do evah.

    1) You are no paragon of virtue.
    2) Being a libtard means hate hate hate
    3) HA’s unemployed ASSHOLE moron has been hating since Puddy arrived.
    4) Sux to be you!
    5) Take your own words and F-off the blog forever!
    6) Shove it!
    7) Taliban – Your fall back crutch when you run out of inane things to “think” about. Well if Puddy thought like them we would you be now moron? Stoooooooooooooooopid!
    8) No one in their “right” mind would listen to an idiot like you.
    9) You seem to forget the 179+ times HA’s unemployed ASSHOLE has attempted to use the crazed databaze in an attack. Puddy leave no attack UNANSWERED!

  155. 155

    Still displaying that BDS eh HA’s unemployed ASSHOLE moron? Sux to be you and that worthless life you still choose to lead!

  156. 156

    So what if YLB is the stay-home parent – why is this offensive, if true? Because he’s a man, and your narrow little fear-driven notions of what roles people should play at home and at work cannot assimilate this fact?

    You are certifiably stoooooooooooopid Libtard SCHMUCKO. Puddy takes umbrage to his incessant class warfare attacks. This is a “man” with a sick mind. HA’s unemployed ASSHOLE would rather catalog people’s comments on a blog than find a job. This is why you are stooooooooooooooopid SCHMUCKO. Apparently that which is very visible to others is invisible to you!

    Puddy has no narrow minded role issues. You are the one with the narrow mind. Puddy calls out HA’s unemployed ASSHOLE moron because he chooses his lifestyle then rails on others who want to improve their life lot as takers. Puddy has not taken anything from HA’s unemployed ASSHOLE moron except some grief which Puddy returns in spades!

  157. 157

    I see puddybigot is spewing all over the other thread – clearly won’t touch the indictment @149.

    Rather than ‘indictment’ maybe he should see it as an invitation to live the Christian values he so often brays on about.

    Oh SCHMUCKO, Puddy been really busy so this is first chance to revisit this thread.

    Puddy takes no advice from SCHMUCKO ever. You are way too leftist loony to be anyone’s life coach! Puddy sees being an atheist is all about hate hate hate! You prove that in spades!

    Sux to be you.

  158. 158

    @154, 155, 156, 157

    I get, from the apoplectic response, the vein-bulging anger, the spittle-flecked screen, that you indeed recognize the portrait I’ve painted of you, and on some level, however unconscious, you recognize what a nasty, hate-filled, buffooninsh wretch you are.

    Your welcome.

    Use this instruction well – no one knows how much time they have on this earth, and it’s never too late to start acting with love and with integrity.

    Good luck.

  160. 160

    I get, from the apoplectic response, the vein-bulging anger, the spittle-flecked screen, that you indeed recognize the portrait I’ve painted of you, and on some level, however unconscious, you recognize what a nasty, hate-filled, buffooninsh wretch you are.

    As always you are wrong again SCHMUCKO. Delusional to the core!

    Try as you might, you’ll never be right. Tiny rhyme takes no time. Such a sad sack of an atheist. Reverts back to the same themes because that’s all SCHMUCK knows!

  162. 162

    Thanks himself. What a jerk!

    Ummm…no. I was correcting a spelling error I made in the referenced post. I thought that was obvious. Maybe I overestimated you.

  163. 163

    Puddy has not taken anything from HA’s empowered HERO except some grief which Puddy returns in spades!

    Huh? Is that all it takes to wind you up and make you GO???

    Well, not that we didn’t know that allready but..

    THANKS FOR ADMITTING IT!

    WE OWN YOU!!!

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

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